1 00:00:15,485 --> 00:00:17,919 i took away the hearing. in the beginning. 2 00:01:04,001 --> 00:01:07,027 3 00:01:52,082 --> 00:01:55,483 4 00:01:55,552 --> 00:01:58,316 5 00:02:03,794 --> 00:02:06,388 6 00:02:20,377 --> 00:02:25,144 7 00:02:31,455 --> 00:02:33,184 8 00:02:34,324 --> 00:02:36,690 9 00:03:10,594 --> 00:03:13,859 10 00:03:17,283 --> 00:03:20,684 11 00:03:39,272 --> 00:03:41,399 - Coffee? - Yeah, thank you. 12 00:03:43,609 --> 00:03:46,578 How have you liked your stay? 13 00:03:46,646 --> 00:03:49,274 - What I've seen, I've liked. 14 00:04:01,294 --> 00:04:03,285 Because I think Hezbollah... 15 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:13,637 and in America at this moment in time, 16 00:04:13,706 --> 00:04:16,698 Hezbollah does not have a face. 17 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:22,914 and I see the questions first. 18 00:04:25,818 --> 00:04:28,286 No. We don't do that. 19 00:04:28,354 --> 00:04:31,687 You've seen 60 Minutes and Mike Wallace, 20 00:04:35,061 --> 00:04:39,464 You also know we are the highest-rated, most-respected... 21 00:04:39,532 --> 00:04:42,968 TV magazine news show in America. 22 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:54,143 So, Mr. Wallace-- should he get on a plane or not? 23 00:04:55,982 --> 00:04:59,145 Tell him I'll see him day after tomorrow. 24 00:05:13,699 --> 00:05:15,633 Hello? Sheikh? 25 00:05:19,272 --> 00:05:21,832 Hello? Sheikh? 26 00:05:28,648 --> 00:05:31,048 - Norman? - What? What? 27 00:05:31,117 --> 00:05:33,483 Take your blindfold off. 28 00:05:38,858 --> 00:05:41,986 Welcome to the world. 29 00:05:44,630 --> 00:05:47,394 [Phone Beeping] 30 00:05:58,511 --> 00:06:01,708 [ Line Ringing ] 31 00:06:04,484 --> 00:06:06,714 - Hello? - Mike, it's me. 32 00:06:06,786 --> 00:06:09,619 We're on. 33 00:06:09,689 --> 00:06:11,623 [Phone Beeps] 34 00:06:25,571 --> 00:06:27,869 [ Chattering ] 35 00:06:47,126 --> 00:06:49,424 [ Elevator Bell Dings ] 36 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:21,831 A little early for cartoons, isn't it? 37 00:08:22,976 --> 00:08:25,672 Okay. 38 00:08:27,047 --> 00:08:29,208 [TV Turns Off] 39 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:34,012 Deborah? Debbie? 40 00:08:43,263 --> 00:08:45,754 Oh, I didn't know you were home. 41 00:08:45,832 --> 00:08:49,165 It's early, isn't it? 42 00:08:53,407 --> 00:08:56,535 [Girl] Mommy! 43 00:08:59,079 --> 00:09:02,446 [ Hyperventilating ] 44 00:09:03,850 --> 00:09:05,784 Sweetheart, come on. Come on. 45 00:09:08,755 --> 00:09:12,521 Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Breathe deep. Breathe deep. 46 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:19,497 Slow down. 47 00:09:48,161 --> 00:09:50,629 Uh-huh? Okay? 48 00:09:50,697 --> 00:09:52,631 Better already, aren't you? 49 00:09:54,634 --> 00:09:57,501 [ Exhales Deeply] 50 00:10:00,607 --> 00:10:02,541 Okay, baby? 51 00:10:02,609 --> 00:10:05,407 [Deborah Laughing] 52 00:10:17,324 --> 00:10:19,792 I can take her. 53 00:10:30,537 --> 00:10:32,505 [Mother] Do you want more rice? 54 00:10:35,142 --> 00:10:37,076 -[Barbara] I'll take some. - Instant rice? 55 00:10:42,916 --> 00:10:44,884 [Barbara] Can I go over to Jeanine's house? 56 00:10:55,362 --> 00:10:57,296 [ Sighs ] 57 00:11:11,311 --> 00:11:14,838 Um, what are those boxes? 58 00:11:24,825 --> 00:11:27,521 - I didn't want to leave it there. - I don't understand. 59 00:11:34,367 --> 00:11:37,393 Where else am I gonna take it? 60 00:11:40,974 --> 00:11:42,908 Thomas Sandefur. 61 00:11:47,414 --> 00:11:50,975 What are we supposed to do? 62 00:12:15,842 --> 00:12:18,106 No, thank you. 63 00:12:21,047 --> 00:12:23,174 [Engine Starts] 64 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:28,649 Jeffrey? 65 00:12:40,555 --> 00:12:43,854 [ Men Speaking In Arabic ] 66 00:12:54,936 --> 00:12:56,870 I gotta go outside. 67 00:12:59,874 --> 00:13:01,739 Give me a hand with this, will you? 68 00:13:04,779 --> 00:13:06,747 Norman! 69 00:13:06,814 --> 00:13:10,250 [ Speaking In Arabic ] 70 00:13:14,989 --> 00:13:17,287 I can't conduct an interview from back there. 71 00:13:20,995 --> 00:13:24,431 You must move back your chair. 72 00:13:36,010 --> 00:13:40,037 - There is no interview. - You! 73 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:50,985 [ Speaking In Arabic ] 74 00:13:56,264 --> 00:13:57,754 - Are you interpreting what I'm saying? - Yes. 75 00:13:57,832 --> 00:14:01,598 - We're there. - Good. Well, ask him if Arabic is his second language. 76 00:14:03,971 --> 00:14:06,531 Hold it! Hold it! Slow. Slow. 77 00:14:06,607 --> 00:14:09,269 Sheikh, do you mind? 78 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:14,876 to face Mr. Wallace. 79 00:14:23,958 --> 00:14:25,892 and warm up some more? 80 00:14:30,364 --> 00:14:32,730 All right, Todd. 81 00:14:33,868 --> 00:14:36,496 Give me the three-button on Mike, please. 82 00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:41,167 Good. Good. 83 00:14:41,242 --> 00:14:44,507 Okay, we are rolling. 84 00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:47,104 [ Clears Throat ] 85 00:14:50,418 --> 00:14:53,478 Thank you so much for seeing us. Are you a terrorist? 86 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:58,791 Mr. Wallace, I am a servant of God. 87 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:01,954 A servant of God? Really? 88 00:15:58,286 --> 00:16:00,652 Yeah, Stuart? 89 00:16:00,721 --> 00:16:03,485 - What New York bank? - Hey, Dad. 90 00:16:15,903 --> 00:16:17,996 [Phone Ringing] 91 00:16:19,874 --> 00:16:22,502 - Hello? Yeah. - Do independent sources corroborate? 92 00:16:30,251 --> 00:16:33,880 - [ Chuckles ] 93 00:16:37,258 --> 00:16:39,590 [Door Closes] 94 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:48,430 I can't. I've gotta fly to Boston tomorrow. 95 00:16:48,502 --> 00:16:50,834 2:00 P.M. Great. 96 00:16:50,905 --> 00:16:54,671 - Bye-bye. - "Ignition propensity." 97 00:16:54,742 --> 00:16:57,108 You understand any of this? 98 00:17:00,615 --> 00:17:02,674 No. [ Chuckles ] 99 00:17:03,851 --> 00:17:06,649 Uh, this looks like a table of temperatures. 100 00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:10,248 - Who's this from? - It's anonymous. 101 00:17:10,324 --> 00:17:12,884 References to " P.M." 102 00:17:15,062 --> 00:17:17,929 Hmm. I have to take a shower. 103 00:17:22,570 --> 00:17:25,004 [Pager Beeping] 104 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:40,487 Hi. This is Doug Oliver. 105 00:17:46,494 --> 00:17:50,954 I receive a shitload of scientific papers from inside Phillip Morris. 106 00:17:54,268 --> 00:17:56,964 who can translate this stuff into English for me? 107 00:17:57,038 --> 00:17:59,165 Uh, yeah. 108 00:18:15,656 --> 00:18:19,217 - Hello? - Uh, Mr. Wigand, please? 109 00:18:31,049 --> 00:18:35,748 - Did you say " Berman"? - No, Bergman. B-E-R-G-M-A-N. 110 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:38,345 - I'm a producer for 60 Minutes. - 60 Minutes? 111 00:18:38,423 --> 00:18:41,392 - Yeah. - 60 Minutes, the television show? 112 00:18:41,459 --> 00:18:44,860 - Yes. - He doesn't want to talk to you. 113 00:18:47,098 --> 00:18:49,862 How does he know he doesn't want to talk to me? He doesn't know what I'm calling him about. 114 00:18:49,934 --> 00:18:52,494 He doesn't care to know. 115 00:18:53,571 --> 00:18:55,698 [ Dial Tone ] 116 00:19:05,383 --> 00:19:08,045 [Dialing Numbers] 117 00:19:10,255 --> 00:19:12,621 [ Phone Ringing ] 118 00:19:17,829 --> 00:19:21,321 -[Beeps] 119 00:19:26,571 --> 00:19:29,665 I have scientific documents from a tobacco company, 120 00:19:32,577 --> 00:19:34,511 explaining these documents tome. 121 00:19:40,552 --> 00:19:45,319 - I'll be thereat this number in ten minutes. -[Hangs Up] 122 00:20:34,005 --> 00:20:36,633 [Phone Rings] 123 00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:54,315 [ Beeps ] 124 00:21:13,945 --> 00:21:16,311 [Phone Rings] 125 00:21:33,164 --> 00:21:35,291 [ Beeps ] 126 00:22:13,805 --> 00:22:16,865 If you're curious to meet me, 127 00:22:21,980 --> 00:22:26,007 reading The New York Times tomorrowat5.:00. 128 00:22:26,084 --> 00:22:28,848 [Hangs Up] 129 00:22:36,928 --> 00:22:39,021 [Elevator Bell Dings] 130 00:23:29,714 --> 00:23:31,773 [ Elevator Bell Dings ] 131 00:23:51,498 --> 00:23:55,025 - [Knock On Door] - Who's that? 132 00:23:56,704 --> 00:23:59,969 That's room service. 133 00:24:02,877 --> 00:24:05,072 Come on in. 134 00:24:05,145 --> 00:24:07,238 Over here, please. 135 00:24:20,628 --> 00:24:23,620 Black. Black. 136 00:24:31,705 --> 00:24:33,832 Like what? Your sign? 137 00:24:37,177 --> 00:24:39,236 I know what I have to know. 138 00:24:43,183 --> 00:24:45,117 it stays that way. 139 00:24:54,295 --> 00:24:56,786 I still do the tough stories. 140 00:24:56,864 --> 00:24:59,230 60 Minutes reaches a lot of people. 141 00:25:01,402 --> 00:25:03,597 Let me see the documents. 142 00:25:31,832 --> 00:25:33,959 This is a, um, 143 00:25:44,979 --> 00:25:46,913 because it's from another company. 144 00:25:51,819 --> 00:25:53,753 This issue is a drop in the bucket. 145 00:26:09,937 --> 00:26:12,337 Doesn't CBS have confidentiality agreements, Mr. Bergman? 146 00:26:19,747 --> 00:26:21,681 Did work. 147 00:26:21,749 --> 00:26:25,879 - Did work? - How much would I get paid? 148 00:26:44,705 --> 00:26:47,230 If you want to do it. 149 00:26:53,881 --> 00:26:56,543 I worked as a, uh, 150 00:26:59,586 --> 00:27:02,077 Tobacco company. 151 00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:11,896 Mr. Bergman. 152 00:27:24,244 --> 00:27:26,303 [Door Closes] 153 00:27:39,326 --> 00:27:41,294 [Wallace On Television] President Assad of Syria said... 154 00:27:41,361 --> 00:27:44,524 that difficult obstacles remain, but that his country, 155 00:27:49,103 --> 00:27:51,594 - [ Static ] - That's a Peabody, Mike. 156 00:27:54,842 --> 00:27:56,901 [Chattering] 157 00:27:59,313 --> 00:28:03,044 - [ Chuckles ] 158 00:28:03,117 --> 00:28:05,210 Come on. 159 00:28:12,459 --> 00:28:15,121 - Debbie! -[Man]Hey, Lowell. 160 00:28:20,601 --> 00:28:22,660 -You want it for the news? -What about you? You got a crew already? 161 00:28:30,811 --> 00:28:32,745 - Debbie. - How are you? 162 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,720 Kentucky state law about-- 163 00:28:55,035 --> 00:28:57,026 Tony. 164 00:28:59,206 --> 00:29:01,071 [ Vacuum Whirring ] 165 00:29:05,145 --> 00:29:07,636 [Whirring Continues] 166 00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,049 [Man] Mr. Wigand? You can go up now. 167 00:29:22,777 --> 00:29:24,972 [Quiet Chattering] 168 00:29:40,061 --> 00:29:43,827 from the Retinitis Pigmentosa Foundation. 169 00:30:00,015 --> 00:30:03,246 - Seven. - And he gets out there... 170 00:30:03,318 --> 00:30:05,980 and he has five strokes on us. 171 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:09,319 He has more concentration than anybody I've ever met. 172 00:30:22,437 --> 00:30:24,371 I don't like being back here. 173 00:30:48,329 --> 00:30:50,695 One of the reasons I was a great salesman... 174 00:30:53,902 --> 00:30:56,632 I knew that if I ever broke my promise, 175 00:30:56,705 --> 00:30:59,401 I'd suffer the consequence. 176 00:30:59,474 --> 00:31:01,339 Is that a threat? 177 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,049 Now, the work we did here is confidential, not for public scrutiny... 178 00:31:13,655 --> 00:31:17,284 [ Chuckles ] Now, don't be paranoid, Jeff. 179 00:31:17,358 --> 00:31:20,816 About the direction of research here, we may have had our differences, but-- 180 00:31:20,895 --> 00:31:25,594 Research. You declare 181 00:31:28,236 --> 00:31:31,535 [ Scoffs ] Okay. 182 00:31:31,606 --> 00:31:34,439 I don't believe that you can maintain corporate integrity... 183 00:31:34,509 --> 00:31:37,307 without confidentiality agreements. 184 00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:42,507 the health and welfare benefits are good, 185 00:32:02,270 --> 00:32:05,364 so we've drafted a supplement to your agreement. 186 00:32:10,145 --> 00:32:12,113 what is confidential. 187 00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:18,577 I didn't know that was a secret." 188 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:24,754 We'd like you to sign it. 189 00:32:26,294 --> 00:32:28,455 And if I don't? 190 00:32:28,530 --> 00:32:31,988 If we arrive at the conclusion that you're acting in bad faith, 191 00:32:50,418 --> 00:32:52,545 and you'll sign it. 192 00:33:02,897 --> 00:33:04,922 Now you question my integrity? 193 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:22,577 Fuck me? Well, fuck you! 194 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:35,590 I'm not sure he got the message. 195 00:33:35,663 --> 00:33:38,393 Oh, I think he did. 196 00:33:38,466 --> 00:33:41,128 [ Horn Honking ] 197 00:33:44,973 --> 00:33:47,237 [ Line Ringing ] 198 00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:50,775 [ Chuckles ] 199 00:33:50,845 --> 00:33:52,608 - Yeah. - You fucked me! 200 00:33:53,848 --> 00:33:56,408 - Who's this? - Protect your sources? 201 00:33:56,484 --> 00:33:58,418 You screwed me. You sold me out. 202 00:34:23,807 --> 00:34:26,332 [ Sighs ] 203 00:34:34,284 --> 00:34:36,275 [Ball Clanging] 204 00:34:38,688 --> 00:34:40,747 [Ball Clattering] 205 00:34:47,664 --> 00:34:50,861 [Ball Clanging] 206 00:35:44,488 --> 00:35:46,683 [ Exhales Deeply] 207 00:36:19,956 --> 00:36:22,390 [Hits Ball] 208 00:36:31,201 --> 00:36:37,037 [Vocalizing] 209 00:37:12,342 --> 00:37:15,311 [ Breathing Deeply] 210 00:37:15,378 --> 00:37:18,245 [ Engine Starts ] 211 00:37:27,724 --> 00:37:30,022 Stay away from me. 212 00:37:31,394 --> 00:37:33,794 You stay away from me! 213 00:38:05,195 --> 00:38:07,390 I did not give you up to anyone. 214 00:38:07,464 --> 00:38:10,627 - What business do we have? 215 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:12,668 Right here, right now. 216 00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:18,874 How the hell do I know about Brown &Williamson? 217 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:37,357 - No, I did not. 218 00:38:50,273 --> 00:38:53,071 I don't burn people. 219 00:39:00,617 --> 00:39:02,778 [Engine Starts] 220 00:39:24,007 --> 00:39:26,737 Ride with me while I take the girls to school. 221 00:39:58,007 --> 00:40:01,704 Deborah, my oldest daughter. 222 00:40:13,423 --> 00:40:16,119 I will sign it. 223 00:40:25,735 --> 00:40:28,568 Talk to me outside the zone of your agreement. 224 00:40:28,638 --> 00:40:32,699 - Like what? 225 00:40:32,776 --> 00:40:35,074 Johnson &Johnson. 226 00:40:35,145 --> 00:40:37,170 Union Carbide in Japan. 227 00:40:40,784 --> 00:40:45,118 I was a director of corporate development at Pfizer. 228 00:40:45,188 --> 00:40:47,816 All health-related. 229 00:40:50,293 --> 00:40:52,284 What else outside the zone? 230 00:41:17,432 --> 00:41:22,267 When he found out that some lunatic had put poison in Tylenol bottles, 231 00:41:24,339 --> 00:41:27,001 He didn't even wait for the F.D.A. to tell him. He just pulled Tylenol... 232 00:41:31,513 --> 00:41:34,676 [ Chuckles ] And then he developed a safety cap. 233 00:41:34,749 --> 00:41:39,345 Because as a C.E.O., sure, he's gotta be a great businessman, right? 234 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:41,854 But he's also a man of science. 235 00:41:47,295 --> 00:41:49,388 Not like the Seven Dwarfs. 236 00:41:49,464 --> 00:41:52,228 - Seven Dwarfs? - Seven C.E.O.s of Big Tobacco. 237 00:41:57,238 --> 00:41:59,229 It was on C-SPAN. Yeah. 238 00:42:13,621 --> 00:42:16,681 market and sell enormous volume, go to a lot of golf tournaments. 239 00:42:27,836 --> 00:42:32,535 Could have been beneficial. Mostly, I got paid a lot. 240 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,510 I mean, what the hell is wrong with that? 241 00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:01,596 Because look, here's how it lays out. 242 00:43:34,802 --> 00:43:37,498 [ Engine Starts ] 243 00:43:56,925 --> 00:44:00,656 - [Man]Congressman, 244 00:44:00,728 --> 00:44:05,927 definitions of addiction. 245 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,662 - There is no intoxication. - [ Congressman ] We'll take that as no. 246 00:44:15,877 --> 00:44:19,938 I believe that nicotine is not addictive. 247 00:44:20,014 --> 00:44:22,414 I too believe that nicotine-- 248 00:44:22,483 --> 00:44:25,509 He referred to this-- the Seven Dwarfs-- 249 00:44:25,586 --> 00:44:28,578 - What Seven Dwarfs? 250 00:44:43,838 --> 00:44:48,366 - What's this? - What that is is tobacco's standard defense. 251 00:44:48,443 --> 00:44:50,377 It's the "we don't know" litany. 252 00:44:50,445 --> 00:44:54,279 Addiction? We believe not. Disease? We don't know. 253 00:44:54,349 --> 00:44:57,182 We take a bunch of leaves, we roll them together, you smoke 'em. 254 00:45:00,655 --> 00:45:02,714 So, that tells me nothing. 255 00:45:13,368 --> 00:45:15,836 in the number-three tobacco company in America. 256 00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:25,736 He's got something to say. He wants to say it. I want it on 60 Minutes. 257 00:45:25,813 --> 00:45:27,940 - Doesn't matter what he wants. -[Wallace] Am I missing something here? 258 00:45:28,016 --> 00:45:31,281 -What do you mean, Mike? -He's got a corporate secrecy agreement. 259 00:45:31,352 --> 00:45:33,582 Give me a break. 260 00:45:40,428 --> 00:45:43,124 Issues like that. He can talk, we can air it. 261 00:45:49,537 --> 00:45:52,904 The unlimited checkbook. That's how Big Tobacco wins... 262 00:46:00,281 --> 00:46:04,217 Chadbourne-Park, Ken Starr's firm, Kirkland and Ellis. 263 00:46:04,285 --> 00:46:06,981 Listen, G.M. and Ford, they get nailed... 264 00:46:10,124 --> 00:46:13,321 -These clowns have never-- I mean ever-- -[Man]Not even once. 265 00:46:13,394 --> 00:46:16,886 Not even with hundreds of thousands dying each year from an illness... 266 00:46:47,261 --> 00:46:49,855 What do you mean? 267 00:46:55,603 --> 00:46:57,764 [ Chuckles ] What do you mean, "compelled"? 268 00:47:01,075 --> 00:47:03,236 State courts. Be a witness. 269 00:47:06,614 --> 00:47:08,980 - What does that do? - What do you mean, what does it do? 270 00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:12,383 What I mean is like, how does it cut through the confidentiality agreement? 271 00:47:12,453 --> 00:47:15,286 Because he has to, uh, reveal it in a court of law. 272 00:47:15,356 --> 00:47:18,120 It's on record. It's out. It's no secret anymore. 273 00:47:27,902 --> 00:47:31,668 Yeah, but what venue? And where does he get-- Does he have killer attorneys? 274 00:47:31,739 --> 00:47:34,640 I don't think he's got any attorneys. 275 00:47:38,346 --> 00:47:42,680 and millions of dollars of their own dough in legal costs. 276 00:47:54,862 --> 00:47:57,422 will he go for it? 277 00:48:08,676 --> 00:48:11,076 [ Clears Throat ] 278 00:48:13,414 --> 00:48:15,848 I'm trying to start a new career. 279 00:48:17,752 --> 00:48:19,811 I believe I could be a good teacher. 280 00:49:09,596 --> 00:49:11,530 That's it. 281 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,775 It's where our babies were born. 282 00:49:31,017 --> 00:49:32,951 In the grass. 283 00:49:39,693 --> 00:49:41,786 Come on. Come on. 284 00:49:45,832 --> 00:49:49,996 We can make this work for us. Okay? 285 00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:52,004 It's just-- It's not-- 286 00:49:54,975 --> 00:49:58,877 Simpler, easier. 287 00:49:58,945 --> 00:50:03,177 More time. More time together. 288 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:05,514 More time with the kids. 289 00:50:05,585 --> 00:50:08,418 More time for us. Okay? It's just-- 290 00:50:19,633 --> 00:50:21,567 This is gonna be better. 291 00:50:24,271 --> 00:50:26,569 This is gonna be better. 292 00:50:32,078 --> 00:50:34,512 [Radio] 293 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,054 [Dishes Clattering] 294 00:50:48,094 --> 00:50:50,187 [Indistinct] 295 00:50:50,263 --> 00:50:54,393 You'll find incredible 296 00:51:14,254 --> 00:51:16,586 - Back to-- -[Woman On Radio] Welcome back. 297 00:51:34,507 --> 00:51:36,634 Who's that outside, Daddy? 298 00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:45,844 - Where? - In the backyard. 299 00:52:24,791 --> 00:52:26,725 You stay down here. 300 00:54:06,259 --> 00:54:08,193 Daddy! 301 00:54:28,248 --> 00:54:29,545 [Phone Ringing] 302 00:54:31,251 --> 00:54:32,406 - Yeah. - Lowell. Jeffrey Wigand. 303 00:54:32,406 --> 00:54:35,239 - Yeah. - Lowell. Jeffrey Wigand. 304 00:54:35,309 --> 00:54:38,608 Is it too late? 305 00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:40,772 No, no, it's okay. I-- 306 00:54:40,848 --> 00:54:42,782 How-How's the new place? 307 00:54:42,850 --> 00:54:45,250 The new place? New. 308 00:54:45,319 --> 00:54:48,755 - You okay? - Sure. 309 00:55:00,368 --> 00:55:04,327 One's hers, one's mine. Everybody uses a different name. 310 00:55:04,405 --> 00:55:06,339 Modern marriage. 311 00:55:06,407 --> 00:55:08,602 Uh, how's Liane? 312 00:55:10,344 --> 00:55:13,643 Uh, she's okay. Uh-- 313 00:55:13,714 --> 00:55:15,648 Hold on a minute. 314 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:24,824 Lowell. 315 00:55:31,499 --> 00:55:34,491 I-I don't wanna be paranoid. I mean-- 316 00:55:38,339 --> 00:55:40,273 I don't know what the fuck I really think. 317 00:55:48,382 --> 00:55:51,283 - I don't fuckin' know. -Jeffrey, describe for me... 318 00:55:51,352 --> 00:55:53,320 in detail what happened. 319 00:55:53,387 --> 00:55:55,412 Well-- 320 00:55:55,489 --> 00:55:59,050 No. Look, I mean, there was a footprint. Forget it. 321 00:56:11,872 --> 00:56:15,330 - You called me. 322 00:56:15,409 --> 00:56:18,207 - So, what about? 323 00:56:25,152 --> 00:56:27,086 Okay. 324 00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:41,632 Hello? Are you there? 325 00:56:41,702 --> 00:56:44,170 Yeah. 326 00:56:44,238 --> 00:56:46,763 Look, um-- 327 00:56:49,176 --> 00:56:52,771 - I didn't know. - It's okay. 328 00:56:58,219 --> 00:57:01,211 [Phone Ringing] 329 00:57:01,288 --> 00:57:05,122 - Lowell. - [ Static On Phone Line ] 330 00:57:05,192 --> 00:57:07,126 Who is this? 331 00:57:07,194 --> 00:57:09,788 Do not call here! Do not-- 332 00:57:09,864 --> 00:57:12,298 [ Dial Tone ] 333 00:57:18,839 --> 00:57:23,173 [ Wigand Speaking Japanese ] 334 00:57:23,244 --> 00:57:25,269 [ Waitress Speaking Japanese ] 335 00:57:28,582 --> 00:57:30,516 [Japanese ] 336 00:57:34,422 --> 00:57:36,356 What are you gonna get us? 337 00:57:48,436 --> 00:57:50,836 - Marcus-- - Marcuse. Yeah. 338 00:57:50,905 --> 00:57:53,203 He was my mentor. 339 00:57:56,510 --> 00:57:58,535 And on me, personally. 340 00:58:05,986 --> 00:58:08,079 I, uh-- [ Clears Throat ] 341 00:58:12,193 --> 00:58:15,560 You charge by the hour? 342 00:58:40,588 --> 00:58:42,522 You understand? 343 00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:47,093 I drink. 344 00:58:47,161 --> 00:58:49,857 - Um-hmm. 345 00:58:59,473 --> 00:59:02,442 Pushed Liane one time. We were both stressed out because of the pressure. 346 00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:05,172 She went to her mother's. [ Clears Throat ] 347 00:59:11,185 --> 00:59:14,052 and I don't like to be pushed around. 348 00:59:20,094 --> 00:59:22,654 I'm just a commodity to you, aren't I? 349 00:59:40,147 --> 00:59:42,342 - You believe that? - No. 350 00:59:42,416 --> 00:59:45,180 You should. Because when you're done the judgment... 351 00:59:49,323 --> 00:59:51,917 And that's... the power you have. 352 00:59:51,992 --> 00:59:55,257 - You believe that? - I believe that? 353 00:59:55,329 --> 00:59:57,263 - Yes, I believe that. - You believe that... 354 00:59:57,331 --> 01:00:00,061 - Yes. 355 01:00:03,070 --> 01:00:05,004 to justify having a good job. 356 01:00:05,072 --> 01:00:07,040 Having status. 357 01:00:22,122 --> 01:00:23,919 [ Both Talking At Once ] 358 01:00:27,895 --> 01:00:30,295 or 60 Minutes with this cheap skepticism. 359 01:00:39,373 --> 01:00:42,240 I've been out in the world givin' my word... 360 01:00:54,388 --> 01:00:56,686 I said I'd call the kids before they went to bed. 361 01:00:56,757 --> 01:00:59,453 [Japanese ] 362 01:01:13,741 --> 01:01:17,062 - What's with all the horses? 363 01:01:25,671 --> 01:01:28,105 This is Richard Scruggs. 364 01:01:42,855 --> 01:01:45,346 [Radio: Indistinct] 365 01:01:56,802 --> 01:02:02,365 - Area code 21 2-555-01 99. - I'll call you then. 366 01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:13,718 - I don't know. - [Phone Ringing] 367 01:02:13,786 --> 01:02:15,720 Richard Scruggs. 368 01:02:21,093 --> 01:02:25,655 research at Brown & Williamson. 369 01:02:25,731 --> 01:02:28,325 Former corporate officer there. 370 01:02:48,087 --> 01:02:50,817 Has he decided to go public? 371 01:03:19,284 --> 01:03:22,151 It would be better if he called us. 372 01:03:37,469 --> 01:03:39,630 Get me, uh-- Get me to New Orleans this afternoon. 373 01:03:39,705 --> 01:03:41,935 I'll shoot the fucking thing myself!. 374 01:03:45,377 --> 01:03:47,777 [Man On Radio: Indistinct] 375 01:04:06,131 --> 01:04:08,065 [Girl] What are you cooking? 376 01:04:12,071 --> 01:04:15,563 [Beeping] 377 01:04:21,980 --> 01:04:25,472 [Beeping Continues] 378 01:04:29,455 --> 01:04:32,253 [ Beeping Continues ] 379 01:04:35,527 --> 01:04:37,461 [Clicks Mouse, Beeping Stops] 380 01:04:49,541 --> 01:04:51,270 Jeffrey! 381 01:05:13,432 --> 01:05:15,491 Jeffrey! Jeffrey! 382 01:05:15,567 --> 01:05:18,866 Jeffrey! Jeffrey! 383 01:05:51,069 --> 01:05:55,733 Uniforms arrived on the scene, found this white male subject shot to death. 384 01:06:48,327 --> 01:06:50,420 [Phone Beeps] 385 01:06:55,367 --> 01:06:57,301 Yes, I'm afraid I did. 386 01:06:57,369 --> 01:06:59,963 We won't be able to lift usable prints. 387 01:07:09,715 --> 01:07:11,649 What caliber is my gun? 388 01:07:11,717 --> 01:07:14,652 Yes, sir. What caliber is your gun? 389 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,587 What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? 390 01:07:17,656 --> 01:07:20,489 [ Crying ] 391 01:07:24,363 --> 01:07:26,923 If we could take a look, Mr. Wigand. 392 01:07:40,178 --> 01:07:42,112 Why do you keep this gun? 393 01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:45,672 I don't think it's unconstitutional yet to own a gun. I'm a target shooter. 394 01:07:45,751 --> 01:07:48,845 That bullet was for a .38 caliber. Do you own a .38? 395 01:08:00,265 --> 01:08:02,324 Yeah. Yes, I do. 396 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,354 [ Coughing ] 397 01:08:34,766 --> 01:08:36,700 You all right? 398 01:08:42,507 --> 01:08:44,441 [Dog Barking] 399 01:08:51,451 --> 01:08:54,352 We need to take a look At your gun safe, Mr. Wigand. 400 01:09:15,475 --> 01:09:17,409 Now who are they trying to protect? 401 01:09:34,327 --> 01:09:36,522 pissed off and curious! 402 01:09:48,208 --> 01:09:50,267 as we fuckin' speak! 403 01:09:52,345 --> 01:09:54,279 I'll give it a look. 404 01:09:59,719 --> 01:10:02,586 - How are the rooms? Comfortable? - Yes, very. 405 01:10:23,710 --> 01:10:26,304 Taping? 406 01:10:36,856 --> 01:10:39,154 An interview? 407 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,368 I thought we-- 408 01:10:53,339 --> 01:10:55,307 I'm sorry. 409 01:10:55,375 --> 01:10:57,309 Liane, this is a preliminary-- 410 01:11:06,686 --> 01:11:09,780 You didn't tell her we were taping? 411 01:11:09,856 --> 01:11:13,622 What did she think she was coming to New York for? 412 01:11:13,693 --> 01:11:17,129 Talk about it, think about it. I had a plan to, uh, ease her into it, 413 01:11:25,705 --> 01:11:28,299 Oh, man. 414 01:11:32,445 --> 01:11:34,379 Who are these people? 415 01:12:10,216 --> 01:12:13,413 [ Crew Chattering ] 416 01:12:18,891 --> 01:12:21,121 [ Wallace ] You heard Mr. Sandefur say... 417 01:12:25,865 --> 01:12:28,857 I believe Mr. Sandefur perjured himself... 418 01:12:28,935 --> 01:12:30,869 because I watched those testimonies very carefully. 419 01:12:30,937 --> 01:12:35,135 [Wallace] All of us did. I mean, there was this whole line of people, 420 01:12:35,208 --> 01:12:37,733 whole line of C.E.O. 's up there swearing. 421 01:12:37,810 --> 01:12:41,871 Part of the reason I'm here is that I felt... 422 01:12:44,417 --> 01:12:46,351 at least within Brown & Williamson's representation-- 423 01:12:50,823 --> 01:12:53,223 We are in the nicotine delivery business. 424 01:12:53,292 --> 01:12:55,385 And that's what cigarettes are for. 425 01:12:55,461 --> 01:12:57,725 Delivery device for nicotine. 426 01:13:22,755 --> 01:13:25,451 While not spiking nicotine, 427 01:13:25,525 --> 01:13:28,460 they clearly manipulate it. 428 01:13:28,528 --> 01:13:32,931 There is extensive use of this technology, known as ammonia chemistry. 429 01:13:32,999 --> 01:13:36,560 It allows for the nicotine to be more rapidly absorbed in the lung... 430 01:13:36,636 --> 01:13:39,332 and therefore affect the brain and central nervous system. 431 01:13:43,576 --> 01:13:47,205 The straw that broke the camel's 432 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,942 was a compound called coumarin. 433 01:13:50,016 --> 01:13:51,950 When I came on board at B&W, 434 01:14:04,230 --> 01:14:08,257 that it would effect sales, so I should mind my own business. 435 01:14:08,334 --> 01:14:11,394 I constructed a memo to Mr. Sandefur indicating I could not in conscience... 436 01:14:11,471 --> 01:14:14,201 continue with coumarin in a product that we now knew-- 437 01:14:14,273 --> 01:14:18,733 we had documentation-- was similar to coumadin, a lung-specific carcinogen. 438 01:14:21,647 --> 01:14:23,581 I sent the document forward to Sandefur. 439 01:14:23,649 --> 01:14:27,050 I was told that we would continue to work on a substitute. 440 01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:33,652 [Wallace]In other words, you are charging Sandefur... 441 01:14:33,726 --> 01:14:35,660 and Brown & Williamson... 442 01:14:43,436 --> 01:14:47,133 Thomas Sandefur, C.E.O. of Brown &Williamson, 443 01:14:47,206 --> 01:14:49,572 had you fired. 444 01:14:51,177 --> 01:14:53,111 And there a son he gave you? 445 01:14:55,114 --> 01:14:57,309 Poor communication skills. 446 01:15:07,326 --> 01:15:09,760 Yeah, there are times I wish I hadn't done it. 447 01:15:11,664 --> 01:15:14,929 There are times I feel com-- compelled to do it. 448 01:15:16,869 --> 01:15:18,837 If you'd asked me... 449 01:15:25,411 --> 01:15:27,470 Yeah, I think it's worth it. 450 01:15:45,659 --> 01:15:48,184 [ Chattering ] 451 01:15:58,271 --> 01:16:00,603 [ Chattering Subsides ] 452 01:16:00,674 --> 01:16:03,802 - Hi. - [ Students ] Hi. 453 01:16:03,877 --> 01:16:06,243 My name is Jeff Wigand. 454 01:16:08,815 --> 01:16:11,147 You can call me, uh, Mr. Wigand. 455 01:16:11,218 --> 01:16:13,152 You can call me Dr. Wigand. 456 01:16:16,857 --> 01:16:19,587 You can call me Jeff. 457 01:16:30,303 --> 01:16:32,464 I find it an adventure. 458 01:16:52,459 --> 01:16:55,087 He's on line three. 459 01:16:55,162 --> 01:16:58,427 [ Students Chattering ] 460 01:16:58,498 --> 01:17:02,298 - Hello? - Mr. Scruggs? Jeff Wigand. 461 01:17:23,356 --> 01:17:25,221 When should we do this? 462 01:17:54,121 --> 01:17:58,421 You've got your own security now. 463 01:18:00,694 --> 01:18:02,958 You know, Lowell, I can't-- I can't afford to-- 464 01:18:10,437 --> 01:18:13,338 There'll be three of us on the detail. 465 01:18:25,785 --> 01:18:29,551 Uh, I called Richard Scruggs in Mississippi. 466 01:18:29,623 --> 01:18:34,083 - I heard. 467 01:18:34,161 --> 01:18:36,095 [Beeping] 468 01:18:48,275 --> 01:18:50,869 - Uh, coffee, Lowell? - Yeah, all right. 469 01:19:22,842 --> 01:19:25,902 Where should I wash them? 470 01:19:25,979 --> 01:19:28,447 Use the bathroom. 471 01:19:28,515 --> 01:19:30,449 What's the difference? 472 01:19:30,517 --> 01:19:32,451 That's for food. 473 01:19:36,389 --> 01:19:38,323 [Turns Off Water] 474 01:19:45,932 --> 01:19:49,026 Leave it on. Just leave it on! Okay? 475 01:20:46,259 --> 01:20:48,489 I don't think I can do this. 476 01:21:01,308 --> 01:21:03,708 I don't think I can do this anymore. 477 01:21:07,013 --> 01:21:08,947 I am so sorry. 478 01:21:28,435 --> 01:21:31,268 Can we talk about this when I get back? 479 01:21:36,810 --> 01:21:38,744 Yes, Jeffrey. 480 01:22:50,395 --> 01:22:52,420 Jeff!. 481 01:22:56,134 --> 01:22:58,068 You've been served. 482 01:23:10,615 --> 01:23:13,277 Now, what this one is is a temporary restraining order, 483 01:23:28,867 --> 01:23:30,994 - Right. - Now, 484 01:23:33,505 --> 01:23:35,439 but the judge threw it out. 485 01:23:59,631 --> 01:24:01,565 And you ought to know that. 486 01:24:10,675 --> 01:24:12,609 That's right. 487 01:24:17,716 --> 01:24:21,243 How does-- How does one go to jail? 488 01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:24,982 Wh-What does my family do? 489 01:24:25,056 --> 01:24:27,422 Go on welfare? 490 01:24:30,829 --> 01:24:33,320 Put food on the table? I mean, my children need me. 491 01:24:39,671 --> 01:24:42,572 Dr. Wigand, listen. 492 01:24:45,143 --> 01:24:47,873 As I understand from Dick, you're our key witness, 493 01:25:13,271 --> 01:25:15,239 And I think I know how you're feeling. 494 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,937 In combat, events have a duration of seconds. 495 01:25:25,016 --> 01:25:27,348 Sometimes minutes. 496 01:25:32,590 --> 01:25:34,524 Week in, week out. 497 01:25:34,592 --> 01:25:37,254 Month after month after month. 498 01:25:40,932 --> 01:25:43,867 You're assaulted psychologically. 499 01:25:43,935 --> 01:25:46,267 You're assaulted financially, 500 01:25:46,337 --> 01:25:51,001 directed at your kids. 501 01:25:51,076 --> 01:25:53,408 What school can you afford? 502 01:25:53,478 --> 01:25:55,969 How will that affect their lives? 503 01:25:56,047 --> 01:25:57,981 You're asking yourself, 504 01:25:58,049 --> 01:26:01,348 "Will that limit what they may become?" 505 01:26:04,189 --> 01:26:06,749 held hostage. 506 01:26:06,825 --> 01:26:08,952 I do know how it is. 507 01:26:23,408 --> 01:26:25,342 You attract a crowd. 508 01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:27,344 Yeah. Great. 509 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,340 I heard about the Kentucky gag order. 510 01:26:36,020 --> 01:26:38,454 I don't know what to do. 511 01:27:15,493 --> 01:27:17,723 [ Reporters Chattering ] 512 01:27:20,598 --> 01:27:22,998 [ Reporters Shouting Questions ] 513 01:27:33,607 --> 01:27:37,008 [ Crowd Chattering, Laughing ] 514 01:27:40,881 --> 01:27:44,180 Hold on a second. 515 01:27:52,092 --> 01:27:54,356 [Man On Police Radio.: Indistinct] 516 01:28:16,049 --> 01:28:18,950 I can't seem to find the criteria to decide. 517 01:28:26,593 --> 01:28:29,562 Maybe things have changed. 518 01:28:50,784 --> 01:28:52,718 A lot's changed. 519 01:28:57,991 --> 01:28:59,959 You mean since this morning? 520 01:29:02,262 --> 01:29:05,493 No, I mean since whenever. 521 01:29:11,705 --> 01:29:14,105 Fuck it. 522 01:29:14,174 --> 01:29:16,335 Let's go to court. 523 01:30:56,009 --> 01:30:57,943 [ No Audio ] 524 01:31:07,954 --> 01:31:11,390 [ Reporters Shouting Questions ] 525 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,873 [ Chattering ] 526 01:31:32,712 --> 01:31:35,738 [ Chattering Subsides ] 527 01:31:46,259 --> 01:31:48,193 I want to start as fast as possible. 528 01:32:00,907 --> 01:32:04,570 Please stand. Raise your right hand. 529 01:32:22,295 --> 01:32:25,784 Jeffrey S. Wigand. R-E-Y. W-l-G-A-N-D. 530 01:32:31,790 --> 01:32:33,724 No, I don't have a clue. 531 01:32:35,961 --> 01:32:38,429 - That is correct. - In other words, it acts as a drug, 532 01:32:44,903 --> 01:32:46,928 Your objection's been recorded. 533 01:33:00,019 --> 01:33:02,544 I am instructing you... 534 01:33:02,621 --> 01:33:05,021 not to answer that question. 535 01:33:05,090 --> 01:33:08,719 In accordance to the terms of the contractual obligations... 536 01:33:08,794 --> 01:33:11,319 under taken by you... 537 01:33:11,397 --> 01:33:14,457 not to disclose any information... 538 01:33:18,304 --> 01:33:21,535 And in accordance with the force and effect... 539 01:33:23,776 --> 01:33:25,937 that has been entered against you... 540 01:33:29,948 --> 01:33:32,610 That means you don't talk. 541 01:33:32,685 --> 01:33:34,710 Mr. Motley, we have rights here. 542 01:33:34,787 --> 01:33:37,085 Oh, you've got rights. 543 01:33:37,156 --> 01:33:41,149 And lefts. Ups and downs and middles. 544 01:33:45,998 --> 01:33:50,298 This is not North Carolina, not South Carolina, nor Kentucky. 545 01:33:53,839 --> 01:33:56,672 Wipe that smirk off your face! 546 01:34:18,797 --> 01:34:20,731 Answer the question, Doctor. 547 01:34:26,071 --> 01:34:29,302 Um, nicotine is associated with... 548 01:34:29,375 --> 01:34:31,809 impact, satisfaction. 549 01:34:55,033 --> 01:34:58,434 [Vocalizing] 550 01:35:26,098 --> 01:35:28,532 One of the reasons I'm here is that I felt... 551 01:35:44,917 --> 01:35:47,852 Then back on Jeff... 552 01:35:50,589 --> 01:35:53,888 Hell of a show, Mike. Explosive material. 553 01:36:02,134 --> 01:36:05,467 of Kools to the world. 554 01:36:05,537 --> 01:36:08,028 [ Laughing ] 555 01:36:14,313 --> 01:36:16,713 - I like that. - [Hewitt] Corporate has some questions. 556 01:36:19,218 --> 01:36:23,245 - When's the air date? - Lowell, Sharon's online three. 557 01:36:23,322 --> 01:36:27,418 - Tell her I'll call her back in ten. - [Editor]Here we go. 558 01:36:38,237 --> 01:36:42,196 Brown &Williamson's chief executive officer, Thomas Sandefur. 559 01:36:42,274 --> 01:36:44,799 I believe that nicotine is not addictive. 560 01:36:44,877 --> 01:36:47,437 I believe Mr. Sandefur perjured himself... 561 01:36:47,513 --> 01:36:49,981 because I watched those testimonies very carefully. 562 01:36:50,048 --> 01:36:53,540 [ Wallace ] All of us did. There was this whole line of people, 563 01:36:53,619 --> 01:36:56,053 whole line of C.E.O.'s up there all swearing. 564 01:37:04,496 --> 01:37:06,760 We are in the nicotine delivery business. 565 01:37:06,832 --> 01:37:10,359 There is extensive use of this technology, known as ammonia chemistry. 566 01:37:10,435 --> 01:37:14,337 It allows for the nicotine tobe more rapidly absorbed in the lung... 567 01:37:14,406 --> 01:37:17,068 and therefore affect the brain and central nervous system. 568 01:37:17,142 --> 01:37:20,202 - [ Wallace ] 569 01:37:25,384 --> 01:37:27,716 You're going to get your fix. 570 01:37:27,786 --> 01:37:30,812 [Vocalizing] 571 01:39:05,651 --> 01:39:08,415 [Dog Barking] 572 01:40:31,845 --> 01:40:34,814 - Shall I send for coffee? 573 01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,054 because there's a legal concept... 574 01:40:44,891 --> 01:40:46,984 Tortious interference. 575 01:40:58,638 --> 01:41:00,833 Hence, tortious interference. 576 01:41:15,322 --> 01:41:19,656 And after we corroborate it. 577 01:41:19,726 --> 01:41:24,527 is exact and precise. 578 01:41:24,598 --> 01:41:28,500 And I don't think it would hurt to make sure you're right on this one. 579 01:41:28,568 --> 01:41:32,504 [Hewitt] Why? You think we have liability? 580 01:41:32,572 --> 01:41:34,665 What's the CBS News position, Eric? 581 01:41:36,977 --> 01:41:39,969 But one we have to check on, Mike. 582 01:41:40,046 --> 01:41:42,640 I've retained outside counsel to do exactly that... 583 01:41:47,387 --> 01:41:49,321 What does that mean? " Rife with--" 584 01:41:55,896 --> 01:41:58,990 And I'm told there are questions as to our star witness' veracity. 585 01:42:02,135 --> 01:42:04,603 Our standards have to be higher than anyone else's, 586 01:42:04,671 --> 01:42:07,663 because we are the standard for everybody else. 587 01:42:12,979 --> 01:42:15,709 Well, with tortious interference, I'm afraid... 588 01:42:23,356 --> 01:42:25,916 the information he's disclosing. 589 01:42:25,992 --> 01:42:28,051 The truer it is, 590 01:42:30,197 --> 01:42:33,826 If he lied, he didn't disclose their information, and the damages are smaller. 591 01:42:38,939 --> 01:42:43,774 - Is this Alice in Wonderland? - You said "on this one." 592 01:42:43,844 --> 01:42:45,778 What about this one? 593 01:42:49,616 --> 01:42:52,915 But if it did and we aired this segment, 594 01:42:52,986 --> 01:42:57,013 and CBS was sued by Brown &Williamson, 595 01:42:57,090 --> 01:42:59,149 I think we could be at grave risk. 596 01:43:03,096 --> 01:43:05,792 because of your segment, 597 01:43:05,866 --> 01:43:08,300 the Brown &Williamson Tobacco Company... 598 01:43:08,368 --> 01:43:10,393 could own CBS. 599 01:43:28,822 --> 01:43:32,019 We're all CBS. We'll find out soon. 600 01:43:32,092 --> 01:43:34,026 Thank you, gentlemen. 601 01:43:41,067 --> 01:43:43,035 "Tortious interference." 602 01:43:43,103 --> 01:43:46,163 That sounds like a disease caught by a radio. 603 01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:48,673 -[Hewitt]Lunch? - Sure. 604 01:43:59,052 --> 01:44:00,986 [Dialing Phone] 605 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,993 Debbie, it's me. I want you to check some filings, 606 01:44:10,063 --> 01:44:12,554 and give me John Wilson's number at Bear-Stearn. 607 01:44:30,951 --> 01:44:32,919 [Man] Hello, Lowell, Mike. 608 01:44:32,986 --> 01:44:35,352 -[Door Closes] - Don. 609 01:44:39,826 --> 01:44:43,278 I've decided we should cut an alternate version of the show without his interview. 610 01:44:43,278 --> 01:44:44,040 I've decided we should cut an alternate version of the show without his interview. 611 01:44:50,853 --> 01:44:53,447 have it in the can. 612 01:44:55,924 --> 01:45:00,088 - No, I'm not. 613 01:45:06,201 --> 01:45:08,294 Since when has the, uh, 614 01:45:16,178 --> 01:45:18,510 [Hewitt] It's an alternate version. 615 01:45:18,580 --> 01:45:21,276 So what if we have an alternate version? 616 01:45:29,992 --> 01:45:32,825 Before you go, 617 01:45:33,896 --> 01:45:35,864 I discovered this. 618 01:45:42,471 --> 01:45:44,735 - What? - Yeah, I heard rumors. 619 01:45:44,807 --> 01:45:47,935 It's not a rumor. It's a sale. If Tisch can unload CBS... 620 01:45:48,010 --> 01:45:50,342 for $81 a share to Westinghouse, 621 01:45:50,412 --> 01:45:52,380 and then is suddenly threatened... 622 01:45:52,447 --> 01:45:56,213 with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit from Brown &Williamson, 623 01:46:02,291 --> 01:46:06,193 Uh, " More vested interests. Persons who will profit from this merger. 624 01:46:11,567 --> 01:46:14,627 " Mr. Eric Kluster, president of CBS News, 625 01:46:14,703 --> 01:46:17,570 1 .4 million." 626 01:46:33,455 --> 01:46:35,753 You hear "reasonable" and "tortious interference." 627 01:46:48,503 --> 01:46:50,437 -[Hewitt] You're exaggerating. - I am? 628 01:46:57,279 --> 01:47:00,180 I do. I deliver him. He sits. He talks. 629 01:47:07,823 --> 01:47:09,916 maybe the biggest, most expensive... 630 01:47:17,833 --> 01:47:20,165 Yes. Is it newsworthy? 631 01:47:20,235 --> 01:47:22,931 Yes. Are we gonna air it? 632 01:47:23,005 --> 01:47:24,996 Of course not. Why? 633 01:47:25,073 --> 01:47:27,337 Because he's not telling the truth? No. 634 01:47:31,313 --> 01:47:33,611 And the more truth he tells, the worse it gets. 635 01:47:33,682 --> 01:47:37,618 [Hewitt] You are a fanatic, an anarchist. You know that? 636 01:47:37,686 --> 01:47:41,213 If we can't have a whole show, then I want half a show rather than no show. 637 01:47:45,127 --> 01:47:48,358 What are you? Are you a businessman or are you a newsman? 638 01:47:53,568 --> 01:47:57,163 - Lowell-- 639 01:48:02,210 --> 01:48:04,235 What? 640 01:48:04,313 --> 01:48:06,508 I'm with Don on this. 641 01:48:23,765 --> 01:48:26,734 [Door Opens, Closes] 642 01:48:28,971 --> 01:48:30,939 What's wrong? 643 01:48:33,642 --> 01:48:37,908 - What? 644 01:48:46,054 --> 01:48:48,682 I'm alone on this. 645 01:48:58,066 --> 01:49:00,000 [Phone Ringing] 646 01:49:21,289 --> 01:49:23,223 It's Jeffrey Wigand. 647 01:49:33,001 --> 01:49:36,493 Jeffrey. How are you? 648 01:49:41,777 --> 01:49:44,075 Uh, Liane has filed for divorce. 649 01:49:44,146 --> 01:49:47,479 And, so, I've moved out. 650 01:49:55,624 --> 01:49:59,720 I checked into room 930. 651 01:49:59,795 --> 01:50:01,729 Odd choice, huh? 652 01:50:05,534 --> 01:50:07,764 I don't know how to say this, 653 01:50:16,378 --> 01:50:21,509 - What? - B&W may have threatened litigation. 654 01:50:21,583 --> 01:50:24,143 CBS is on the block. 655 01:50:24,219 --> 01:50:27,347 - But you, I mean-- I know how you-- - No. 656 01:50:28,457 --> 01:50:30,584 No, what? 657 01:50:50,011 --> 01:50:52,775 Jeff. 658 01:51:35,423 --> 01:51:37,357 Mrs. Wigand? 659 01:51:48,904 --> 01:51:50,838 All right. 660 01:51:54,788 --> 01:51:57,313 Um, seven months after we were married, 661 01:51:57,390 --> 01:51:59,824 we found out that I had multiple sclerosis. 662 01:51:59,893 --> 01:52:01,827 [Man] And you had a daughter, Diane-- 663 01:52:01,895 --> 01:52:03,829 [Man #2] Tommy Sandefur told me himself. 664 01:52:03,897 --> 01:52:08,357 to the American public. 665 01:52:11,505 --> 01:52:15,134 [ Man On TV] 666 01:52:19,346 --> 01:52:21,746 First wife and estrangement of daughter. 667 01:52:28,155 --> 01:52:30,783 He's a shoplifter. 668 01:52:30,857 --> 01:52:33,325 He's a convicted shoplifter. 669 01:52:55,315 --> 01:52:58,478 What do you think I'm gonna do? Quit in protest? 670 01:52:58,552 --> 01:53:00,782 I'm not gonna do that. 671 01:53:05,892 --> 01:53:09,020 You're not? What are you doing? 672 01:53:12,632 --> 01:53:15,328 You don't like it? Hey, I tell you what? 673 01:53:15,402 --> 01:53:18,462 Fire my ass. 674 01:53:25,645 --> 01:53:29,308 I don't think so. Take a look at this. 675 01:53:32,285 --> 01:53:34,515 He wouldn't lie about his whole life. 676 01:53:42,295 --> 01:53:44,627 You backed the wrong horse. 677 01:53:44,698 --> 01:53:49,032 The version without the interview is gonna air the week after next. 678 01:53:54,808 --> 01:53:57,834 What was that about? 679 01:53:57,911 --> 01:53:59,936 - Get me Wigand. - Sure. 680 01:54:03,016 --> 01:54:06,747 What the fuck is this? Fuck! 681 01:54:37,117 --> 01:54:39,142 with one hand tied behind my back... 682 01:54:44,658 --> 01:54:46,819 I was young! I was young! 683 01:54:46,893 --> 01:54:49,919 Confused. We didn't handle it the right way. 684 01:55:03,376 --> 01:55:05,469 - What? - Some public relations guy... 685 01:55:10,317 --> 01:55:13,445 What kind of shit is this? l-- I was-- 686 01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:17,012 I was not on the team. I sparred with the Olympic team. 687 01:55:20,193 --> 01:55:23,856 - ABC-- - ABC Telemarketing Company. 688 01:55:23,930 --> 01:55:26,797 The can opener! A 39.95 can opener! 689 01:55:29,636 --> 01:55:32,799 You ever bounce a check, Lowell? You ever look at another woman's tits? 690 01:55:32,872 --> 01:55:35,170 You ever cheat a little on your taxes? 691 01:55:53,293 --> 01:55:55,989 with my testimony? 692 01:55:56,062 --> 01:55:58,223 with my testimony? 693 01:55:58,298 --> 01:56:01,028 - I told the truth! 694 01:56:06,039 --> 01:56:07,973 Hello? 695 01:56:10,877 --> 01:56:13,243 I told the truth. 696 01:56:14,948 --> 01:56:16,882 I told the truth. 697 01:56:31,398 --> 01:56:33,491 I am trying to protect you, man. 698 01:56:53,987 --> 01:56:55,921 [Dialing Phone] 699 01:56:55,989 --> 01:56:59,322 [Woman] 700 01:57:05,665 --> 01:57:07,599 - Hello? - It's Lowell. 701 01:57:15,275 --> 01:57:17,266 You bet we are, and I can't talk to you now. 702 01:57:23,316 --> 01:57:25,250 [Phone Beeps] 703 01:57:27,854 --> 01:57:30,220 [Siren Wailing] 704 01:57:52,212 --> 01:57:55,340 He's dead unless I can get this thing knocked down. 705 01:57:55,415 --> 01:57:57,849 Make it even a little more attractive. 706 01:58:05,725 --> 01:58:09,183 - What's the deadline? - Soon. 707 01:58:16,034 --> 01:58:18,901 [ Crowd Chattering ] 708 01:58:22,674 --> 01:58:26,235 - Hey. How are you? Hey, listen. - Hey. 709 01:58:41,026 --> 01:58:43,961 - Push it. - What? Forget it. 710 01:58:46,031 --> 01:58:47,999 - It's drawn from 711 01:58:51,169 --> 01:58:54,969 Well, it's authoritive... and overwhelmingly documented. 712 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,032 And it's bullshit. And if I'm right, are you gonna put... 713 01:59:12,858 --> 01:59:14,792 Are you all right? 714 01:59:17,062 --> 01:59:18,996 Yeah. 715 01:59:28,306 --> 01:59:30,706 [ Woman ] Officer Muravchick? 716 01:59:30,775 --> 01:59:33,801 Thank you. 717 01:59:33,879 --> 01:59:36,279 Officer Muravchick, how are you? 718 01:59:36,348 --> 01:59:38,441 - I'm Sandra Sutherland. - How do you do? 719 01:59:40,652 --> 01:59:42,586 Mind if I sit down? 720 01:59:44,789 --> 01:59:48,555 Your Honor, could I have a word with you? 721 01:59:48,627 --> 01:59:52,393 You presided in a dispute over support payments. 722 01:59:55,834 --> 01:59:59,895 CBS is under criticism because the CBS News program, 60 Minutes, 723 01:59:59,971 --> 02:00:01,939 will not be presenting an interview-- 724 02:00:02,007 --> 02:00:04,908 What the hell are you doing? 725 02:00:04,976 --> 02:00:07,001 What does it look like I'm doing? I'm editing. 726 02:00:16,755 --> 02:00:18,723 No! I should have. 727 02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:32,126 Okay? Take a vacation. Now! 728 02:00:32,203 --> 02:00:34,467 [Phone Ringing] 729 02:00:35,807 --> 02:00:39,436 Lowell? Look, I've decided to preface Sunday's show. 730 02:00:39,511 --> 02:00:42,309 I did three minutes on the Evening News. You'll want to see it. 731 02:00:45,483 --> 02:00:48,714 in lieu of being fired. 732 02:00:48,787 --> 02:00:51,756 I took off on Tisch. I took off on Corporate. 733 02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,991 I don't know. How does that get Wigand on the air? 734 02:00:59,064 --> 02:01:01,191 Do me a favor, will you? Spare me. 735 02:01:13,545 --> 02:01:15,479 That decision I've already made. 736 02:01:27,158 --> 02:01:29,956 Is there information that people should have... 737 02:01:34,432 --> 02:01:38,493 - Yes. 738 02:01:38,570 --> 02:01:41,334 defended the network's decision not to broadcast... 739 02:01:47,312 --> 02:01:49,803 - Where's the rest? - [ Woman On TV] Dan. 740 02:01:49,881 --> 02:01:51,815 Where the hell's the rest? 741 02:01:51,883 --> 02:01:54,852 - [Dan]Nebraska football fans voiced their criticism-- - You cut it! 742 02:02:00,959 --> 02:02:03,792 Time? Bullshit! You corporate lackey. 743 02:02:10,568 --> 02:02:12,934 Mike. Mike. Mike. 744 02:02:13,004 --> 02:02:17,031 " Mike"? Mike! 745 02:02:17,108 --> 02:02:18,905 Try " Mr. Wallace." 746 02:02:51,943 --> 02:02:55,276 Here. These are their leads, their sources. 747 02:02:58,683 --> 02:03:00,878 Have them make their own calls. 748 02:03:06,991 --> 02:03:08,925 Push the deadline, Charlie. 749 02:03:34,886 --> 02:03:38,652 Mmm, he's into kind of little cars that, um-- 750 02:03:43,394 --> 02:03:47,763 [Man On TV] The 63-36 vote was three shy of the two-thirds needed to pass-- 751 02:03:47,832 --> 02:03:50,266 - Mom. There's Dad. - Yes? 752 02:03:50,335 --> 02:03:53,736 - On the TV. - [Man On TV]...dating back to 1986. 753 02:03:53,805 --> 02:03:55,966 The most recent trouble for Wigand occurred here-- 754 02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,167 And in local news, WLKO, Louisville, 755 02:04:00,912 --> 02:04:03,813 on former Brown & Williamson research head, Jeffrey Wigand, 756 02:04:09,888 --> 02:04:11,822 at the DuPont Manual High School. 757 02:04:11,890 --> 02:04:13,824 Maria. 758 02:04:25,370 --> 02:04:27,497 [Ticking] 759 02:04:35,434 --> 02:04:37,698 [Wallace] Thousands of documents from inside the tobacco industry... 760 02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:39,863 have surfaced over the past year. 761 02:04:39,938 --> 02:04:41,963 Documents that appear to confirm... 762 02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:43,974 what a former U.S. surgeon general... 763 02:04:44,042 --> 02:04:47,910 and the current head of the Food and Drug Administration have been saying. 764 02:04:47,980 --> 02:04:50,608 We learned of a tobacco insider who could tell us... 765 02:04:54,753 --> 02:04:56,687 That insider was formerly... 766 02:04:59,758 --> 02:05:03,592 But we cannot broadcast what critical information about tobacco, 767 02:05:18,777 --> 02:05:21,245 if we were to broadcast an interview with him, 768 02:05:21,313 --> 02:05:25,272 CBS could be faced with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit. 769 02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:28,979 The fact is, we are not allowed even to mention his name... 770 02:05:31,857 --> 02:05:36,191 And, of course, we cannot show you his face. 771 02:05:39,431 --> 02:05:41,991 - Is still in force? - [ Voice Over] Yes, it is. 772 02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:47,636 [Voice Over] I would be tonight. 773 02:05:47,706 --> 02:05:50,698 [Wallace] The former executive has reason to be ton being sued, 774 02:06:09,695 --> 02:06:12,687 [ Phone Beeping ] 775 02:06:15,801 --> 02:06:18,269 [ Wallace ] You disappeared on me. 776 02:06:25,477 --> 02:06:27,775 I think it was a disgrace. 777 02:06:27,846 --> 02:06:29,780 [ Dial Tone ] 778 02:06:31,016 --> 02:06:33,177 [Dialing Phone] 779 02:06:33,252 --> 02:06:36,619 [Phone Ringing] 780 02:06:36,688 --> 02:06:39,919 [Vocalizing] 781 02:06:51,370 --> 02:06:55,101 - [ Man ] Still no answer. - Get me the manager's office. 782 02:07:07,786 --> 02:07:13,156 I'm concerned for a friend of mine who's staying at your hotel right now. 783 02:07:19,798 --> 02:07:21,925 Mr. Wigand? 784 02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:23,934 Mr. Wigand? 785 02:07:42,754 --> 02:07:45,245 Did he hear you? 786 02:07:47,726 --> 02:07:50,320 What about now? 787 02:07:50,395 --> 02:07:52,920 - What? - Hello? Can you hear me now? 788 02:07:52,998 --> 02:07:55,796 [Continues] 789 02:09:08,573 --> 02:09:11,007 in these words: Get on the fucking phone. 790 02:09:11,076 --> 02:09:13,340 I-l can't say that. 791 02:09:23,121 --> 02:09:25,055 [Ends] 792 02:09:25,123 --> 02:09:28,024 You manipulated me into this. 793 02:09:34,633 --> 02:09:37,261 That's all. You're not a robot, Jeff. 794 02:09:42,607 --> 02:09:45,075 Vital inside information the American public need to know." 795 02:10:10,635 --> 02:10:13,399 So, where you going? 796 02:10:17,576 --> 02:10:20,409 You are... important... 797 02:10:23,448 --> 02:10:25,507 You think about that. 798 02:10:26,585 --> 02:10:28,519 You think about them. 799 02:10:53,378 --> 02:10:55,312 Yeah, guys like you too. 800 02:11:00,085 --> 02:11:02,178 Where are you, anyway? 801 02:11:02,254 --> 02:11:06,782 I'm on a leave of absence. Forced vacation. 802 02:11:12,230 --> 02:11:14,528 Yeah, I will. 803 02:11:31,759 --> 02:11:34,284 out of that sentence, nobody returns your phone calls. 804 02:11:40,701 --> 02:11:42,635 What am I hooked on? 805 02:11:42,703 --> 02:11:44,967 The rush of 60 Minutes? 806 02:11:45,039 --> 02:11:48,839 What the hell for? "Infotainment"! 807 02:12:00,955 --> 02:12:03,150 - Get some perspective, Lowell. - I got perspective. 808 02:12:03,224 --> 02:12:05,215 No, you do not. 809 02:12:06,661 --> 02:12:09,152 From my perspective, 810 02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,532 - It's half-measures. - You're not listening. 811 02:12:59,046 --> 02:13:00,980 [Beeping] 812 02:13:02,950 --> 02:13:04,884 [ Beeping Stops ] 813 02:13:06,587 --> 02:13:08,680 [Debbie] I've got Richard Scruggs on the phone. 814 02:13:22,636 --> 02:13:26,538 without Jeff ran, 815 02:13:32,413 --> 02:13:34,506 - Hello? - Yeah, I'm here. 816 02:13:37,017 --> 02:13:38,951 Less than great. 817 02:13:52,199 --> 02:13:55,965 I'm about out of moves, Dick. 818 02:13:56,036 --> 02:13:58,129 [ Chattering ] 819 02:13:58,205 --> 02:14:00,173 All right. Seeya. 820 02:14:10,985 --> 02:14:13,510 [ Doorbell Jangling ] 821 02:14:15,055 --> 02:14:17,114 [Doorbell Jangling] 822 02:14:22,329 --> 02:14:24,957 Hi. 823 02:14:36,210 --> 02:14:39,236 Yeah? Really? 824 02:14:39,313 --> 02:14:41,247 How about you? 825 02:14:42,650 --> 02:14:45,210 I work for CBS News. 826 02:14:45,286 --> 02:14:47,777 Oh, yeah? 827 02:15:20,354 --> 02:15:24,415 Lowell, do not... screw this up. 828 02:15:26,927 --> 02:15:31,261 - So I'll hold it. And? 829 02:15:33,901 --> 02:15:35,835 You got a deal. 830 02:15:51,151 --> 02:15:54,814 [Wallace] 831 02:15:54,889 --> 02:15:58,655 Brown & Williamson's chief executive officer, Thomas Sandefur. 832 02:15:58,726 --> 02:16:00,956 I believe that nicotine is not addictive. 833 02:16:01,028 --> 02:16:03,519 I believe Mr. Sandefur perjured himself... 834 02:16:03,597 --> 02:16:07,294 - because I watched those 835 02:16:07,368 --> 02:16:09,563 There was this whole line of people, 836 02:16:09,637 --> 02:16:12,162 whole line of C.E.O.'s up there all swearing. 837 02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:15,333 Part of the reason I'm here is that I felt... 838 02:16:15,409 --> 02:16:17,604 that their representation-- 839 02:16:39,300 --> 02:16:41,996 [ No Audio ] 840 02:16:49,043 --> 02:16:51,170 and therefore affect the brain and central nervous system. 841 02:17:13,767 --> 02:17:15,792 [Phone Ringing] 842 02:17:15,869 --> 02:17:17,803 - Hello? -Jim, it's Lowell. 843 02:17:21,675 --> 02:17:25,202 You asked me if we were 844 02:17:35,222 --> 02:17:38,487 You mean, 60 Minutes is letting CBS Corporate... 845 02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:40,925 decide what is or is not news? 846 02:17:40,995 --> 02:17:43,623 What's Wallace think about this? Or Hewitt, or-- 847 02:17:45,899 --> 02:17:49,357 Oh, come on, Lowell. This is The New York Times. I don't know. 848 02:17:53,707 --> 02:17:55,698 They will not air an interview. 849 02:17:55,776 --> 02:17:58,176 Call me back in ten. 850 02:17:59,813 --> 02:18:01,747 [Phone Ringing] 851 02:18:05,986 --> 02:18:08,284 - Hello? - Debbie, it's me. 852 02:18:08,355 --> 02:18:10,789 Hi. What time is it? 853 02:18:10,858 --> 02:18:14,885 - Oh, it's late. - That I know. When are you coming back? 854 02:18:25,906 --> 02:18:27,869 What is it? 855 02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:33,635 [Phone Ringing] 856 02:18:33,709 --> 02:18:35,643 - Hello? - It's Lowell. 857 02:18:39,781 --> 02:18:44,184 Here's how it works. You ask me questions. I tell you if you're wrong. 858 02:18:52,227 --> 02:18:54,388 You ready? 859 02:19:01,970 --> 02:19:06,771 - Lowell? - Did I tell you you were wrong? 860 02:19:13,348 --> 02:19:15,839 Are we talking, uh-- 861 02:19:51,620 --> 02:19:53,679 [ Wallace ] Did I get you up? 862 02:19:57,859 --> 02:19:59,793 sleepy look on my face. 863 02:20:06,067 --> 02:20:08,001 That's right. 864 02:20:09,938 --> 02:20:12,429 But in all that time, Mike, 865 02:20:15,377 --> 02:20:20,576 and find that a source for a story changed his mind? 866 02:20:20,649 --> 02:20:22,947 Lost his heart? Walked out on us? 867 02:20:28,390 --> 02:20:30,324 I'm gonna tell you why. 868 02:20:30,392 --> 02:20:33,850 Because when I tell someone I'm gonna do something, I deliver. 869 02:20:33,929 --> 02:20:38,059 Oh, how fortunate I am to have Lowell Bergman's moral tutelage... 870 02:20:40,936 --> 02:20:43,200 - Give me a break. - You give me a break. 871 02:20:43,271 --> 02:20:46,399 I never left a source hung out to dry ever. 872 02:20:46,475 --> 02:20:49,376 Abandoned. Not till right fucking now. 873 02:20:59,287 --> 02:21:01,380 What the hell did you expect? 874 02:21:01,456 --> 02:21:04,118 You expect me to lie down? 875 02:21:04,192 --> 02:21:07,184 Back off? Or get over it? 876 02:21:11,533 --> 02:21:14,730 Like what? Corporate responsibility? 877 02:21:14,803 --> 02:21:17,033 - What, are we talking celebrity here? - I'm not-- 878 02:21:21,142 --> 02:21:23,076 I'm-- I'm talking about... 879 02:21:33,889 --> 02:21:36,084 What future? No. 880 02:21:36,157 --> 02:21:39,058 What you think is... 881 02:21:41,730 --> 02:21:45,325 after I'm gone?" 882 02:21:56,411 --> 02:22:01,110 I showed them thieves in suits. I spent a lifetime building... 883 02:22:01,182 --> 02:22:03,116 all that. 884 02:22:10,125 --> 02:22:13,253 And should that be fronting a segment... 885 02:22:23,305 --> 02:22:25,830 Does it give someone... 886 02:22:25,907 --> 02:22:31,209 at my time of life pause? 887 02:22:31,279 --> 02:22:33,213 Yeah. 888 02:22:40,155 --> 02:22:42,089 Mike, 889 02:22:43,858 --> 02:22:45,792 in my-- 890 02:22:47,929 --> 02:22:51,092 You and I have been doing this... 891 02:22:51,166 --> 02:22:55,000 together for 1 4 years. 892 02:22:59,674 --> 02:23:01,869 In it is the whole sordid story... 893 02:23:01,943 --> 02:23:05,504 of what went on inside our shop. 894 02:23:05,580 --> 02:23:10,108 And in the editorial, it accuses us... 895 02:23:22,864 --> 02:23:27,233 [Door Opens] 896 02:23:27,302 --> 02:23:29,236 [Door Closes] 897 02:23:50,278 --> 02:23:52,212 You're full of shit, John. 898 02:23:58,019 --> 02:24:01,079 [Phone Ringing] 899 02:24:02,857 --> 02:24:04,825 Yeah. 900 02:24:04,892 --> 02:24:07,588 [Debbie] Front page. There's a picture of Wigand. 901 02:24:07,662 --> 02:24:09,596 Article's entitled, "Getting Personal." 902 02:24:11,733 --> 02:24:14,167 Wait. Hold on a second, Lowell. 903 02:24:14,235 --> 02:24:16,100 Yeah. 904 02:24:20,608 --> 02:24:23,236 Yeah, I'll see if I can find him. 905 02:24:23,311 --> 02:24:26,439 Yeah, hold on. Don's looking for you. 906 02:24:26,514 --> 02:24:29,915 - Good. 907 02:24:39,093 --> 02:24:42,585 "A close look at the file 908 02:25:13,528 --> 02:25:16,361 in The New York Times, in print, on television... 909 02:25:16,431 --> 02:25:18,365 for caving to corporate interests! 910 02:25:18,433 --> 02:25:22,392 The New York Times ran a 911 02:25:22,470 --> 02:25:25,200 - You fucked us! - No! You fucked you! 912 02:25:25,273 --> 02:25:27,264 Don't invert stuff. 913 02:25:33,247 --> 02:25:35,943 a bastion of anti-capitalist sentiment, 914 02:25:36,017 --> 02:25:38,577 refutes Big Tobacco's smear campaign... 915 02:25:38,653 --> 02:25:42,089 as the lowest form of character assassination. 916 02:25:42,156 --> 02:25:44,124 And now, even now, when every word... 917 02:25:53,201 --> 02:25:55,897 totally out of the bag, 918 02:25:58,105 --> 02:26:02,439 Don, what the hell else do you need? 919 02:26:02,510 --> 02:26:04,910 Mike, you tell him. 920 02:26:04,979 --> 02:26:06,947 You fucked up, Don. 921 02:26:14,255 --> 02:26:17,281 It's old news. Stick with me, like always. We'll be okay. 922 02:26:20,528 --> 02:26:24,521 No, that's fame. Fame has a 1 5-minute half-life. 923 02:26:26,634 --> 02:26:31,833 We caved. It's foolish. It's simply dead wrong. 924 02:26:44,051 --> 02:26:46,679 was two potassium chlorate... 925 02:26:54,195 --> 02:26:57,687 [ No Audio ] 926 02:27:06,340 --> 02:27:10,106 I'm on the 8:1 0. I should be home... 9:30. 927 02:27:26,894 --> 02:27:28,862 - Oh. Thanks, Dad. - Thanks. 928 02:27:33,501 --> 02:27:36,334 [Ticking] 929 02:27:36,404 --> 02:27:39,737 [Ticking Continues] 930 02:27:49,584 --> 02:27:52,485 of a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against us... 931 02:27:52,553 --> 02:27:54,851 for tortious interference. 932 02:27:54,922 --> 02:27:57,117 But now things have changed. 933 02:28:00,061 --> 02:28:04,088 [Vocalizing] 934 02:28:04,165 --> 02:28:06,929 [ No Dialog ] 935 02:28:38,432 --> 02:28:40,366 [ No Audio ] 936 02:29:01,489 --> 02:29:04,720 [Wallace On TV] You wish you hadn't blown the whistle? 937 02:29:04,792 --> 02:29:09,126 Yeah, there are times I wish I hadn't done it. 938 02:29:09,196 --> 02:29:14,361 There are times I feel com-- compelled to do it. 939 02:29:14,435 --> 02:29:16,369 If you ask me... 940 02:29:22,376 --> 02:29:24,310 Yeah, I think it's worth it. 941 02:30:04,051 --> 02:30:07,316 You won. 942 02:30:07,388 --> 02:30:09,322 Yeah. 943 02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:14,594 What did I win? 944 02:30:25,402 --> 02:30:27,336 CBS News has learned that a remote home site... 945 02:30:27,404 --> 02:30:29,565 outside of Lincoln, Montana... 946 02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:33,041 has been under F.B.I. surveillance for several weeks. 947 02:30:34,611 --> 02:30:36,545 [Woman] Great, Lowell. 948 02:30:45,622 --> 02:30:48,022 Thanks for this. 949 02:30:48,091 --> 02:30:52,653 You know, we beat everybody. ABC, NBC, CNN. 950 02:30:55,799 --> 02:30:57,733 Mike. 951 02:31:05,275 --> 02:31:07,675 That Canada story... 952 02:31:07,744 --> 02:31:09,678 still interest you? 953 02:31:09,746 --> 02:31:13,705 Everything interests me. 954 02:31:13,784 --> 02:31:15,718 Uh, I quit, Mike. 955 02:31:18,121 --> 02:31:20,055 Bullshit. 956 02:31:21,558 --> 02:31:24,254 Come on. 957 02:31:24,328 --> 02:31:26,796 It all worked out. 958 02:31:29,833 --> 02:31:31,801 I did? 959 02:31:31,868 --> 02:31:35,133 What do I tell a source on the next tough story? 960 02:31:38,208 --> 02:31:41,006 No. 961 02:31:41,078 --> 02:31:44,104 What got broken here... 962 02:31:51,355 --> 02:31:53,721 So, uh-- 963 02:34:16,790 --> 02:34:20,226 [Vocalizing] 964 02:37:07,661 --> 02:37:09,595 [Ends]