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Kevin:
Today on "This Old House,"

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I'm touring
an accessibility showroom

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to find out how to make
each room more functional

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for anybody facing
mobility challenges.

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Tom: When you're digging
for a foundation,

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the frost line in New England
has to be 48 inches

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from finished grade down.

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If you look right here,
there's not enough.

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Kevin: Multiple additions
in an odd flow.

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We'll show you
the architect's smart solutions.

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Man: Ahh. That's it.

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Kevin: Hey, there.
I'm Kevin O'Connor,

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and welcome back
to "This Old House"

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and to a new project
we're working on here

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in historic Lexington,
Massachusetts.

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We have got ourselves
a mid-century modern home.

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Now, there are several reasons

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to do some updates
to this house

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but none more important
than the fact

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that the family would like
to make it accessible

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for their son, Caffrey.
He's mobile now,

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but, sadly, will soon
be needing to use a wheelchair.

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So, some work has started here
in the front yard,

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mostly just to move a gas line.
But if you look back here,

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well, that is
the original house,

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as I said, built in 1960,
in the mid-century modern style.

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And you can pretty much
tell that, with the facade

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and the massing
and the roofline.

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But over the years, probably
starting in the 2000s or so,

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there were several additions.

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Used to be a gas meter
right here.

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That's being moved,
hence the work in the front.

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But the additions start here
and work the way over this way.

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And as they were added on
to the house, well,

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it lost some of its original
mid-century feel and its charm.

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So this is going
to eventually change,

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but, right now, it's pretty
much the way we found it.

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But that is not the case
with what's going on inside.

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Well, as I said,
a lot of changes on the inside.

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Look at this place.

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So, just to remind you of
the basic geography --

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garage here, and above it
was the primary suite,

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the bedroom/bathroom.
Also, an office up there.

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And as you come through
the front door,

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a meandering trail,

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there was a couch right there
for no particular reason.

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But as you can see, this is
a back-to-the-studs demolition,

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which is pretty aggressive.

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So, this was
the daughter's bedroom here.

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There was another bedroom
beyond it.

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And taking it back to the studs

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means that all of the drywall
comes off,

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even the floors came up,
insulation was pulled down

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to the rafters there
in the ceiling.

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We also took out
the rough plumbing,

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the rough electric back here.

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This is all bedrooms
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so sort of a private part
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and as you came this way, more
of a public part of the house.

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And, Charlie,
what have you done?

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It was a nice house.

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You took it down to the studs.
Charlie: It was.

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I know it seems excessive,
but believe it or not,

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all of this
floor plan's changing.

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This entire job starts
with accessibility.

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Kevin: Mm-hmm.
Charlie: And to get that

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done right, we really had
to change this floor plan.

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Kevin: So when you say all of
it, these partition walls,

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every single one of them
is gone or moving?

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Charlie: Gone.
So all new wiring, new plumbing,

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drain work, et cetera --

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even lighting,
taking down the ceiling.

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And remember, this is
the galley kitchen before.

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Kevin: Oh, yeah.
Charlie: We had less than 5 feet

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to walk through.

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New kitchen is going to really
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Kevin: Okay.
Well, as you say,

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accessibility is sort of
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How did the demo go?
This is a lot of work.

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Charlie: It didn't go too bad,
and I had some good help.

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The family started in.
Kevin: Oh, no kidding.

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Charlie:
Yeah, they took to it real well.

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Kevin: The kids, too.
Charlie: They did.

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Kevin: Ah. I'm almost jealous
I wasn't part of it.

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Charlie:
One little change downstairs

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I want to show you, though.
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Courtney: Well, you know, this
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but the other big problem,
Mom and Dad's primary

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is way up above there.

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Caffrey's bedroom's
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They are way too far apart.
So the idea of this addition

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is to bring them
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Kevin: So put Mom and Dad
next to Caffrey.

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They can help them out.
Charlie: That's right.

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So the new addition's
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16 feet off the house,

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hitting this corner here,
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the corner of the foundation,
and out 14 feet there.

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Kevin: Yeah.
Charlie: And all the way down

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to the other side,
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and that's where the other
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Kevin:
So we get in this new addition,

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a new primary suite
next to Caffrey's bedroom?

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Charlie: Right. So, if you
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is Caffrey's now,
and if you look at this picture

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extending that out,
that's what Caffrey will be,

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and mom and dad
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Kevin: Nice.
Good improvement.

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Charlie: But during excavation,
we found this.

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Our existing grade is here.

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Our concrete foundation
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We really should be at least
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preferably with a footing.
We don't have either one.

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Kevin: Uh-oh.
Charlie: So, our new

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concrete floor,
which they want 18 inches lower

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than the existing
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Kevin: Yeah.
Charlie: ...would leave all this

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dirt exposed on both sides.

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Kevin:
How do you handle that?

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Charlie: Let's take this entire
concrete wall out,

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and that will let us have
accessibility anywhere we want.

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Kevin: Okay.

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Charlie:
But we weren't so lucky inside.

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Kevin: Uh-oh.

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Hey, Tommy.
Tom: Hey. How are you?

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Charlie: So when we decided to
take out the concrete floor,

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we didn't want to bring
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causing all kinds of vibrations.
So we took a concrete saw

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and really diced it up
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We were able to bring
a skid-steer in

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and really just take it out.

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Kevin:
And why all the demo?

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Charlie: Well, we have
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going right over here,

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bring us down
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as the new recreation
room -- accessibility.

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Kevin: So Caffrey can use
this space now. Okay.

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Charlie: And over here,
you can see the problem.

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Kevin: So this is the same
problem we had outside, right?

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You guys dug down and you found
out no footing, not deep enough?

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Tom: Right.
So what we're going to do

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is we're going to actually
make a mat system.

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Here's a cross-section of what
the form's going to look like.

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Kevin: The white
represents new concrete?

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Tom: New concrete,
and the footing right here.

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So think of this as a leg.
All right?

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Would be the concrete
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and my foot is the footing.
It's a wider stance.

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It's going to work
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In this case,
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back at the toe of my foot

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so that it has to be nice
and thick and nice and wide.

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Once we get the steel
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we'll take some steel this way,
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two pieces here,

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and then we'll have more steel
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We'll put
two more pieces here.

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Kevin: Wow. Okay.

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Tom: And that will all get
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with another piece of rebar
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the footing here,
tie it together here and here.

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Kevin:
You Silvas don't mess around.

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All right. So are we
drilling holes at this point?

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Tom: Yeah, we're drilling holes
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deep enough to get the --
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and then we'll also
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to hold them really straight.

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Charlie: Let's drill, baby.
Tom: Yeah.

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Kevin: Hey, Sandra.
Sandra: Hi.

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Kevin:
What do you think of our house?

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Sandra: I think it's a real gem,

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but I think there's a few things
that could be improved.

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Kevin:
An architect's way of saying

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that there's things
you don't like.

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Sandra: Yeah.
The more recent additions,

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they don't exactly do us
any favors, architecturally.

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Kevin: Well,
let's get closer and dig in.

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Sandra: Yeah.

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So, the solution to this
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is to amend the front roofline.

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So we're talking about
removing the sloped roof

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and bringing it down

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so that the garage bays
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The existing entry arrives

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at a really awkward place
within the floorplan,

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so our idea
is to re-center the entry

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and pull it forward
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This also helps to eclipse
the oversized garage.

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Kevin: So we need a ramp,
obviously, for the house.

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Sandra: Yes, we do.
And when we were designing it,

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we didn't really want it
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that was added onto the home.
Kevin: Which they often do.

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Sandra: Absolutely.

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So, the ramp
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and it arrives
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to be aligned
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and it's positioned
under the roofline

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to provide cover in all weather.

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It's also integrated
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Kevin: So you've got
pretty much a clean slate

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to work with in here,
thanks to Charlie and the guys.

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Sandra: We do.

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Kevin: So what's the plan
as we put it back together?

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Sandra:
We preserve a family-room space,

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and then we create a kitchen
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in the heart of the home here.

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And then we create a slightly
more formal living area.

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If you notice,
Caffrey in a wheelchair

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will never find himself
in a corner

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where it's difficult
to navigate.

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Kevin:
That's a good point.

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And we've got new space
going off the back.

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Sandra: Yeah.
By opening this up,

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we're displacing
some of the bedroom space,

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but we're also trying to provide
accessible bathrooms

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and other amenities,
and in doing so, we had to add

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some square-footage to the rear.
Kevin: Awesome.

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Well, we look forward
to seeing it all come together.

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Thank you for all the hard work,
Sandra.

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Sandra: Yeah, yeah.
Kevin: Appreciate it.

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Sandra: Thank you.

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Charlie: Go ahead.
Go ahead.

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Kevin: With all the demo
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I decided to visit
a showroom in New England

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that specializes in mobility
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for the home.

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Whether you plan to stay
in your house as you get older,

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or if you've got a loved one
with a disability,

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coming to a showroom like this
can be a great place to visit,

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where you can touch and feel
and try out ideas

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to help you with bathrooms
and kitchens and stairs

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and help you meet your needs now
and in the future.

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Linda, nice to meet you.
Linda: Likewise. Thank you.

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Welcome.
Kevin: Thank you very much

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for inviting us to the showroom,
which looks terrific.

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You got the facade of a house
out front here.

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Linda: Because we want clients,
when they come in,

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to just imagine their own home.

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What is needed
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Is it a ramp?
Is it a vertical platform lift?

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It could be a threshold
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So there's many options,
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what that client's needs are.
Kevin: Sure.

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I came down a ramp.

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We're putting one
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but I think we've got needs
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the garage.
I presume something like this

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could serve both needs?
Linda: Absolutely.

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All aluminum.
It can go outside with the mesh

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so that the rain and the snow
can just go right through

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and it can go inside.

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would also depend on the actual
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Kevin: Gotcha. And this, to me,
is a little less typical.

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A lift.
I don't see them a lot.

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Linda: So, these are vertical
platform lifts, and come on in.

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So, then, again, another option
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to get into the home.
So if it's a small front yard,

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there's not enough room
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This is all aluminum.

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it can go in a garage
or also outside.

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Kevin: Looks like you're
protecting us from rolling off

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or falling off as this comes up.
Linda: That is correct.

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Kevin: All right. And how much
elevation can this cover?

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Linda: Normal vertical platform
lifts can go up to 14 feet.

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Kevin: Oh, wow.
So quite a bit, huh?

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Linda: Yes.
Kevin: Very nice.

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So, obviously
rated for outdoors.

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Where do these go?

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Linda: Those would go
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in the vicinity of the lift.
Could be next to the deck.

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depending on what's there,

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and it would be covered
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Kevin: Gotcha. Okay.
So a couple options

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for in and out of the house.
More to show me?

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Linda: Absolutely.
Come on down.

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Welcome to the heart
of our showroom.

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I'd like to start first
by showing you the bedroom.

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What we see here
are ceiling lifts.

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This is also an adjustable bed.

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So, with the ceiling lift,
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the freestanding posts,
as we show here,

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or you can actually have those
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You can put them throughout
the entire home if need be.

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Kevin: Oh, really?
Linda: You can use them with

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turntables
so they can go around corners.

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Kevin: And so is it designed
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by the person
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by a caregiver, by both?

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Linda: It would be mainly used
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maneuvering that individual
either to the left

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or to the right to maneuver
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over into a wheelchair.

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Kevin: I gotcha. Okay.

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And the bed's going up
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as the remote calls
for it, as well.

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Linda: Yes.

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Kevin:
Is it just for the bedroom?

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You said you could put it
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So also into a bathroom?

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Linda: You can put this
into a bathroom.

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You can put this
into a living room.

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It really just depends on
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and what the use
of it is for.

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Kevin:
I've never seen it before.

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Intuitive. Okay.

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Linda: So, I'd like to show
you the bathroom next.

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As you can see here,
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for all accessibility
and mobility.

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One of the first things I'd like
to show you is the toilet lift.

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Please grab the remote.

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So, designed
for, like, a lift chair.

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This can come up or down.

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It also has the existing
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You can use this
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Kevin: So this is a retrofit.
Linda: This is a retrofit.

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So it's an easy, affordable
modification that can be done.

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Kevin: Comes up awfully high.

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Linda: It does come up high.
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Kevin: By design.
Linda: By design.

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And you've got the grab bars
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they could easily transfer
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Kevin: So it could take you
to the standing position.

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Linda: It could. It could.
Kevin: Gotcha.

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Linda: Yeah. This is what they
call a P.T. rail.

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And again, just another form
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This is the roll-in shower.
Kevin: Okay.

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So, one chair so that
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Curbless, or mostly curbless.

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This is a retrofit?
Linda: That is correct.

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Kevin: But designed so that
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in and out.

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Linda: So, you can use
either this type of chair

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or you can use a shower bench
that is attached to the wall.

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Kevin: So this one stays
in the shower.

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Linda: That's correct.

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Kevin: It goes away
very nicely right there.

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Linda: So, let me take you
to the kitchen next.

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Let's start with the appliances.

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As you can see here,
there's the oven at the top.

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It's got the right open
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to open from the side
than it is to pull down

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if you're in a walker
or a wheelchair.

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Kevin: Didn't know that.
Linda: The microwave

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at the bottom
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so, again,
it's for ease of use for someone

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that is in a wheelchair.
Kevin: Right.

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So, in this case, it's about
the position of the appliances.

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Linda: Correct.
Kevin: Gotcha.

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Linda: As you come down
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you see the grab bars here.

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Kevin: Oh, I thought
they were drawer pulls.

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So you fooled me. Well done.
But they are nice and sturdy.

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Linda:
And then you have the pantry.

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So this is just a drop-arm here.

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And you could just put
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You don't have to do it
in every cabinet.

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And, Kevin, lastly, I'd like
to show you some of the options

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that we do provide
for individuals

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that have trouble getting up
and down the stairs.

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Kevin: Okay.
Linda: This is Bill, my husband.

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This is his area of expertise,
so I'm going to let him

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take it from here.
Kevin: Thank you, Linda.

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You were terrific.
Linda: Pleasure.

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Kevin:
Tough act to follow, Bill.

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Bill: Hey,
I'm going to try my best.

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Kevin: All right.
Please do.

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Bill:
This is our standard stair lift.

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Kevin: Okay.
Bill: It runs off of

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remote control that are located

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at the top
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Kevin: Very nice.
Bill: It also has

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an up-and-down button on the --
Kevin: On here.

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Bill: On the chair itself, yes.
Kevin: Okay.

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This is what we call
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and this is designed
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at the bottom of the stairway,
whether it be a door

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or a passageway to a room.

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Kevin: So you can just
walk right through here

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once that's up.
Bill: That's correct.

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Kevin: Gotcha. Okay.
Bill: That's correct. Yep.

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Kevin: I notice that
there is a seatbelt.

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Other safety features?

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Bill: The foot-rest safety pan.

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Kevin: So it's like
a little bump feature.

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If it hits something,
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Bill: That's correct.
Kevin: Gotcha.

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All right.
And in terms of compactness...

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Bill: When it's not in use, you
can fold these foot rests up.

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The seat will fold up.
The arms fold up, as well.

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Kevin: Look at that.
Okay.

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Bill: It only takes up
14 inches of the stairway.

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Kevin: Which means you still
have plenty of room

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to come up and down.
A typical staircase right there.

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Nice.
So kind of a critical feature

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if you have mobility issues
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because stairs
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Not the only option
for getting up and down.

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Bill: No.
We have the elevator.

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Kevin: Nice to have a model
that you can show off.

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And this one's glass doors.

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Bill: This is a great option.

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Allows the customers
to see what's on the inside.

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Kevin: Yep.

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So, may I get in?
Bill: Please.

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Kevin: I presume you can really
customize it

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to your preferences?

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Bill:
Crown moldings, chair rails,

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flooring,
different fixture metals.

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Kevin: Whatever you want.
Bill: Whatever you want.

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Kevin: So, essential to have
something like this

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if you are in a wheelchair.
Right?

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This is going to be very helpful
for getting between floors.

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Although a much bigger
price point than the stair lift.

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Bill: Much higher, much higher.
Kevin: Yeah.

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So are you doing many of them?
Is it popular?

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Bill: Right now, we've got about
80 active elevator projects.

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Kevin: [ Laughing ] 80?
Bill: Yeah.

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Kevin: So they are popular.
Bill: Very much so.

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Kevin: Holy mackerel.
Well, you know,

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if this is the thing that allows
you to stay in your house --

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I mean, are people putting
these in out of necessity

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or are they sort
of future-proofing?

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Bill: Future-proofing.
Kevin: Yeah. So this allows them

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to sit there and say,
"I can stay in the house,"

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and I guess maybe
that makes the cost --

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Bill: This is the new
baby boomer option.

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Kevin: Yeah. Very nice.

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Bill: Yeah.
Kevin: Well, terrific showroom.

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I appreciate you and your wife
showing us around.

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Thank you.
Can we take a ride?

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Bill: Please.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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Richard: So, Charlie, we've been
living by an energy code

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forever, it seems.
You know, we analyze the walls,

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the windows,
we put the good equipment in.

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But we now have a new
energy code here in town, right?

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Charlie: We do.
As of January 1st,

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Massachusetts
has a new energy code,

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and that affects
all new construction,

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full-gut renovations,
and, in our case,

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putting 1,000 square feet on
or more

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affects the rest of the house.

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Richard: And this is more
than 1,000 square feet.

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Charlie: It does.
And I can't even apply

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for a building permit until
I can prove a certain rating.

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Richard: And that means calling
in a third-party professional.

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Charlie: It does.

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♪♪

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Hey, Richard, say hello
to Kevin, our HERS rater.

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Richard: Hi, Kevin. How are you?
Kevin: Good morning.

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It's a great day
to be a HERS rater.

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Richard: Thanks for all your
help on this project.

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Take us through
what is the HERS rating.

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Kevin: The HERS rating stands
for Home Energy Rating System.

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It's a system that uses
what's called an energy model

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that takes into account all of
the attributes of the house.

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Richard: Okay.
And what are the attributes?

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Kevin: The walls, the roof,

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the R value of the insulation,

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the efficiency of all your
equipment, heating, cooling.

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Richard:
Everything that would go into

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the cost of operating
that building.

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Kevin: Everything goes into
the spreadsheet,

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00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,533
and the output
is the HERS rating.

480
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,133
Richard: Okay.
So, what are we seeing here?

481
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,333
The HERS rating falls
on a scale of zero upwards.

482
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,633
A typical house
built in the '70s and '80s

483
00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:01,733
might have
a HERS rating of 140,

484
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,900
and a house built according
to the 2006 energy code

485
00:18:04,966 --> 00:18:07,300
would have a HERS
rating of 100.

486
00:18:07,366 --> 00:18:09,900
In Massachusetts,
the energy code says

487
00:18:09,966 --> 00:18:12,300
you have to get
a HERS rating of 52,

488
00:18:12,366 --> 00:18:17,533
which means the House uses 52%
of the energy of the 2006 house.

489
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,833
Richard:
Well, that's half of that.

490
00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,433
But what catches my eye
is that it's going to be,

491
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,400
what, almost 2/3 less
than a typical home

492
00:18:23,466 --> 00:18:24,800
if we build it to this system.
Kevin: Yes.

493
00:18:24,866 --> 00:18:26,866
Richard: So we got to work hard
to get to this point.

494
00:18:26,933 --> 00:18:29,700
Charlie: We do. I made some
models up, and this is a mockup

495
00:18:29,766 --> 00:18:31,800
of our existing roof system
that we have now,

496
00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:34,800
which is 2x8 framing
with fiberglass insulation,

497
00:18:34,866 --> 00:18:36,500
giving us an R value of 29.

498
00:18:36,566 --> 00:18:37,833
Richard:
That's our existing condition.

499
00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,133
Charlie: That's right.
Richard: Okay.

500
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,500
Charlie: And normally we would
do is just take out

501
00:18:40,566 --> 00:18:42,000
the fiberglass insulation

502
00:18:42,066 --> 00:18:46,733
and spray in a closed-cell foam,
giving us an R value of 49.

503
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,933
Richard: Okay.
So that's pretty good.

504
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,500
You get that
almost double there.

505
00:18:49,566 --> 00:18:51,600
Side walls, similar?
Charlie: Same thing.

506
00:18:51,666 --> 00:18:54,400
What we have here is a model
of our side-wall conditions --

507
00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:57,266
2x4 framing
with fiberglass insulation,

508
00:18:57,333 --> 00:18:59,100
giving us an R value of 13.

509
00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:02,600
And same thing -- we remove all
the fiberglass in a renovation

510
00:19:02,666 --> 00:19:05,100
and then spray in
closed-cell foam,

511
00:19:05,166 --> 00:19:07,966
giving us
an R value of a 21.

512
00:19:08,033 --> 00:19:10,633
Richard:
Would that get us to our 52?

513
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:13,566
Kevin: In a typical house,
it would make 52 within reach.

514
00:19:13,633 --> 00:19:15,433
Richard: Okay.
Kevin: Unfortunately, there are

515
00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:18,000
certain pieces of the house...
Richard: Okay.

516
00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:19,666
Kevin: ...that weigh
the HERS rating down.

517
00:19:19,733 --> 00:19:22,066
Charlie: And one of them is
the brick facade that we have.

518
00:19:22,133 --> 00:19:24,666
And on the outside it shows
as well as the inside.

519
00:19:24,733 --> 00:19:26,033
Richard: Yeah.
Charlie: Fortunately,

520
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:29,033
one inch of foam in between them
really works in our favor,

521
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,333
giving us an R value of 7.

522
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,233
Here's our biggest headache,
probably,

523
00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:35,766
is we have an existing
concrete slab,

524
00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:38,166
no insulation under it,
R value of zero.

525
00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:40,266
Richard: R zero is pretty low.
Charlie: It's pretty low.

526
00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:43,233
Richard: All right.
So that triggered a whole

527
00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:45,433
nother level of insulation,
right?

528
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:46,633
Charlie: It does,
and this is a mockup

529
00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,566
of our new roofing system.

530
00:19:48,633 --> 00:19:50,500
So, same thing --
our 2x8 framing,

531
00:19:50,566 --> 00:19:52,066
which would have
our closed-cell foam,

532
00:19:52,133 --> 00:19:54,433
giving us an R value of 49,

533
00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:56,333
but then we took it
a step higher

534
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,966
and we put two layers
of foam insulation.

535
00:19:59,033 --> 00:20:00,700
And the reason
I want to do two layers of foam

536
00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:02,433
is I want to overlap the seams

537
00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:04,633
so nothing can really come
through each sheet.

538
00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,333
So we're going to have
an extra about 12 here,

539
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,966
giving us an R value of 60.

540
00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:11,366
Richard: And this is great
because, you know,

541
00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:13,800
people don't realize
that the heat can still transfer

542
00:20:13,866 --> 00:20:15,500
right up here,
up through the roof.

543
00:20:15,566 --> 00:20:16,700
This will break it.
Charlie: That's right.

544
00:20:16,766 --> 00:20:19,166
And now our new framing addition

545
00:20:19,233 --> 00:20:22,666
is going to have a 2x6,
fill it with closed-cell foam,

546
00:20:22,733 --> 00:20:24,500
but we're also going to add
1 inch of foam

547
00:20:24,566 --> 00:20:27,366
on the exterior of this,
giving us an R value of 42.

548
00:20:27,433 --> 00:20:28,933
Richard:
So, does that satisfy it?

549
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,200
Kevin: It brings us close,
but we're not quite there.

550
00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:32,833
Richard: Really?
Charlie: So here's the solution

551
00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:34,066
for the slab.

552
00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:36,966
This model here,
this represents the foundation.

553
00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:38,133
Richard: Gotcha.
Charlie: And then we have

554
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,233
our gravel on the ground.
Richard: Right.

555
00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:42,366
Charlie: So what we're gonna do
is take out the concrete slab.

556
00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:43,466
Richard: You take all the slab,

557
00:20:43,533 --> 00:20:44,633
which you're not
going to hate anyways,

558
00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:45,833
because there's all that
ductwork under there.

559
00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:47,200
Charlie: Going to run
electrical, plumbing,

560
00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:48,566
ductwork, everything.

561
00:20:48,633 --> 00:20:51,300
So spray the closed-cell foam
right to the gravel.

562
00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:52,466
Richard: Good.
Charlie: About 2 inches or so,

563
00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:54,533
giving us an R value of 15.
Richard: Yeah.

564
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,633
Charlie: This represents
our concrete pour.

565
00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:58,733
Richard: Yeah.

566
00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,900
Charlie:
And then we're going to have

567
00:20:59,966 --> 00:21:03,533
sleepers 16 inches on center,

568
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,133
with 2 inches of rigid foam
in between that.

569
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,000
Richard: That's terrific.

570
00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:10,666
Charlie:
And then our 3/4 subflooring.

571
00:21:10,733 --> 00:21:12,200
Richard: Like a little
cooking recipe, Charlie.

572
00:21:12,266 --> 00:21:15,233
Charlie: It is.
And then our radiant heat.

573
00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:16,933
Richard: Radiant heat
in the finished floor.

574
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,033
Charlie: And then it
finishes off with the floor.

575
00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:25,366
And that will give us
an R value of around 20.

576
00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:28,366
Richard: That's a far cry
from the R zero that was here.

577
00:21:28,433 --> 00:21:29,666
Does that get us there?

578
00:21:29,733 --> 00:21:31,133
Kevin:
So it brings us very close.

579
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,133
Fortunately, we're doing
the windows and the doors,

580
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,633
so that puts us over the edge.

581
00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,800
Richard:
I got to tell you, though,

582
00:21:36,866 --> 00:21:39,000
I mean, it is a lot of industry.

583
00:21:39,066 --> 00:21:41,933
By the time you do all this
and all that buildout, I mean,

584
00:21:42,033 --> 00:21:44,900
what's the premium that's going
to be added to this project?

585
00:21:44,966 --> 00:21:47,700
Charlie:
I'm guessing 25%, 30%, at least.

586
00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:50,566
Richard: To be energy efficient.
And he can't get around it.

587
00:21:50,633 --> 00:21:52,500
It has to be to get
a building permit.

588
00:21:52,566 --> 00:21:53,900
Right?
You had to get it.

589
00:21:53,966 --> 00:21:56,166
Kevin: That's right. The code
compels you to get a 52.

590
00:21:56,233 --> 00:21:58,433
Charlie: And then I have to make
one more phone call at the end.

591
00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,600
He has to come back in
and do one more blower test

592
00:22:00,666 --> 00:22:02,433
actually to show
that we have the 52.

593
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,066
Richard: So we have to be nice
to him right to the end?

594
00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:06,066
Charlie: We do.

595
00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:09,600
♪♪

596
00:22:09,666 --> 00:22:11,400
Kevin: How'd that footing
pour go, Charlie?

597
00:22:11,466 --> 00:22:12,633
Charlie: Looks good, doesn't it?
Kevin: It does.

598
00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:14,066
It looks real good.

599
00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:16,933
And it looks real different
back here with all this demo.

600
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,333
So, what do we got
coming up next time?

601
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,033
Charlie: We're gonna start
demoing the concrete slab

602
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:21,766
on the first floor.
Richard: We've got HVAC

603
00:22:21,833 --> 00:22:24,066
decisions to make
and locations of the equipment.

604
00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:25,400
Tom:
And we got to start framing.

605
00:22:25,466 --> 00:22:26,833
Kevin: All right. Starting to
put it back together.

606
00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:28,600
So we're off to the races here.

607
00:22:28,666 --> 00:22:30,266
So until next time,
I'm Kevin O'Connor.

608
00:22:30,333 --> 00:22:32,200
Richard: I'm Richard Trethewey.
Tom: I'm Tom Silva.

609
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:33,666
Charlie: And I'm Charlie Silva.
Kevin: "This Old House"

610
00:22:33,733 --> 00:22:35,700
here in Lexington,
Massachusetts.

611
00:22:35,766 --> 00:22:38,033
Look at the size
of that addition.

612
00:22:40,733 --> 00:22:44,066
Kevin: Next time on
"This Old House"...

613
00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:48,066
We are going to connect the old
to the new as the big dig

614
00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:51,033
comes to Lexington
in the form of a tunnel.

615
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,900
Richard:
And we need to run ductwork
in this beautiful space,

616
00:22:53,966 --> 00:22:56,433
but there's no room
in the ceiling or the wall,

617
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,633
so we're going to run it
under the slab.

618
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,433
Kevin: I'll see a newly
installed residential elevator

619
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:04,933
similar to the one
we're planning

620
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,333
on putting in Lexington.

621
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,400
♪♪