1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:02,966 Kevin: Today on "This Old House"... 2 00:00:03,033 --> 00:00:04,366 This is what's going in? Gary: Correct. 3 00:00:04,433 --> 00:00:05,533 You'd like to have a full tile top and bottom. 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,700 Kevin: Wow, you nailed it. 5 00:00:07,766 --> 00:00:10,466 Elizabeth: We're planting two yellowwood trees. 6 00:00:10,533 --> 00:00:13,166 Jenn: Mm-hmm. Fantastic. 7 00:00:13,233 --> 00:00:15,900 Tom: And today we're gonna be installing base cap molding. 8 00:00:15,966 --> 00:00:18,833 And we need one that bends. 9 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,566 ♪♪ 10 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:26,000 ♪♪ 11 00:00:26,066 --> 00:00:28,133 Man: Ahh. That's it. 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,100 ♪♪ 13 00:00:31,166 --> 00:00:36,966 ♪♪ 14 00:00:37,033 --> 00:00:44,433 ♪♪ 15 00:00:46,933 --> 00:00:52,500 ♪♪ 16 00:00:52,566 --> 00:00:54,133 Kevin: Hey, there, I'm Kevin O'Connor, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,700 and welcome back to "This Old House." 18 00:00:56,766 --> 00:01:00,766 And welcome back to Glen Ridge, New Jersey, 19 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:03,333 where we've got ourselves a beautiful Victorian 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,266 on our hands, built in 1887. 21 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:09,466 And when we got here, in need of a lot of changes 22 00:01:09,533 --> 00:01:11,766 inside as well as out. 23 00:01:11,833 --> 00:01:13,166 Now, when we got here, 24 00:01:13,233 --> 00:01:15,933 the entire house was covered in asbestos shingles, 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,633 which we knew were not original to this house. 26 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:21,200 And so our architect drew a scenario 27 00:01:21,266 --> 00:01:23,233 where we would have claps on the first floor, 28 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:24,900 shingles on the second floor, 29 00:01:24,966 --> 00:01:27,066 and then that beautiful diamond pattern up there 30 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:29,033 on the gable on the third floor. 31 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:30,866 But now when the asbestos shingles came off, 32 00:01:30,933 --> 00:01:33,133 it turns out we did not have that diamond pattern 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,733 up there on that gable end. 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,833 But the historic commission, which oversees this entire town 35 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:39,866 allowed us to keep them primarily 36 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:42,000 because they exist on the flanking houses 37 00:01:42,066 --> 00:01:44,600 here in this neighborhood, and it's a great look. 38 00:01:44,666 --> 00:01:47,366 You may also recall that on the porch, 39 00:01:47,433 --> 00:01:50,100 we had a solid shingled wall right here. 40 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:51,966 And now that has been changed. 41 00:01:52,033 --> 00:01:54,466 We've got all of the posts that are put in, 42 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:57,600 which is close to what was here back in 1887, 43 00:01:57,666 --> 00:02:00,700 and they sit on these brick piers. 44 00:02:00,766 --> 00:02:04,133 Now, that's just a veneer of brick covering up 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,733 a new helical pile 46 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,000 that was screwed into the ground to support this whole porch. 47 00:02:09,066 --> 00:02:11,933 Makes for a big transformation on this house. 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,333 And there's still some more details to come. 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,833 We're gonna have some brackets go in right here, 50 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:19,666 and then our windows are gonna have some shutters. 51 00:02:19,733 --> 00:02:24,300 And that is gonna really make the front of this house sing. 52 00:02:24,366 --> 00:02:27,233 Now, we've only got a couple of weeks left on this project, 53 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:30,100 so you can see the level of finishes here on the inside. 54 00:02:30,166 --> 00:02:33,000 Check out our beautiful, new wide staircase 55 00:02:33,066 --> 00:02:34,833 right up to the second floor. 56 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:37,033 And above that, another one from the second floor 57 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:40,033 to the third floor with that beautiful panel detail 58 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,933 on the other side that Zack built for us. 59 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:47,166 You can see that the wall board is up. 60 00:02:47,233 --> 00:02:48,533 Hey, Kalen. Kalen: What's going on, Kevin? 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Kevin: We've also got some of the trim work. 62 00:02:51,066 --> 00:02:54,233 Got casings around doors that you can see are already in. 63 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,400 And check out our beautiful, new floors. 64 00:02:56,466 --> 00:02:58,000 All throughout the first floor -- 65 00:02:58,066 --> 00:03:00,333 white oak, which is a beautiful detail. 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,166 Right here, we're gonna have a full bath. 67 00:03:03,233 --> 00:03:05,600 You can see that this is in the tiling stage. 68 00:03:05,666 --> 00:03:07,766 And the reason there's a full bath down here 69 00:03:07,833 --> 00:03:10,366 is because our homeowners, Sunita and Shankar, 70 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:13,666 they're gonna be living up on the third floor and up there, 71 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:16,500 they've got a sleeping area, a seating area and a bathroom. 72 00:03:16,566 --> 00:03:19,533 But eventually they have the option to come live down here. 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,733 And that's why they would need a full bath. 74 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,866 If that ends up happening, off of this family room, 75 00:03:24,933 --> 00:03:27,400 there is a front room that can be closed off 76 00:03:27,466 --> 00:03:29,533 with two sliding pocket doors, 77 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,100 and they could turn that into a bedroom 78 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:33,766 for first-floor living. 79 00:03:33,833 --> 00:03:35,333 Here in the back of the house, 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,833 there's gonna be a breakfast nook built into this corner. 81 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:39,666 And then right here, we're gonna have -- 82 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:41,433 I guess I'm gonna call a pantry. 83 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:42,866 So it's gonna have some storage, 84 00:03:42,933 --> 00:03:46,066 some lower and upper cabinets as well as a sink. 85 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:48,533 And all of this is right immediate to the back door. 86 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,666 Hey, guys. Zack, how are you? Zack: Hey, Kevin. 87 00:03:50,733 --> 00:03:52,833 This is Beth, our energy auditor. 88 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,600 Kevin: Beth, nice to meet you. So, blower door test. 89 00:03:55,666 --> 00:03:57,733 Um, comparing it to the original blower door test? 90 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,300 Did we do one? Zack: So we didn't do one 91 00:03:59,366 --> 00:04:01,466 because we noticed there were a lot of holes in this house. 92 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:03,833 There were some major ones in the foundation, the side walls, 93 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,366 and we figured a blower door wouldn't be able to keep up 94 00:04:06,433 --> 00:04:09,366 with the amount of pressure differential and leaks. 95 00:04:09,433 --> 00:04:11,033 Kevin: So leaky we couldn't even measure it. 96 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:12,766 Zack: Exactly. Kevin: Do we have a sense 97 00:04:12,833 --> 00:04:14,533 of how bad it was, though? Zack: Well, our architect, 98 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,866 who's pretty experienced with houses of this area, 99 00:04:15,933 --> 00:04:20,100 feels like it's probably 10 ACH, 50 or worse. 100 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:22,033 Kevin: Alright, so you got to explain that to us. 101 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:23,366 ACH is... 102 00:04:23,433 --> 00:04:26,700 Zack: Air changes per hour at 50 pascals. 103 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:30,133 So this fan here creates a pressure differential 104 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,633 of 50 pascals, 105 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:34,633 which is roughly equivalent to a wind 106 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:38,000 on the outside of the house pushing on all sides. 107 00:04:38,066 --> 00:04:39,300 Kevin: And so what does a 10 mean? 108 00:04:39,366 --> 00:04:41,700 So what does a 10 air changes per hour mean? 109 00:04:41,766 --> 00:04:44,133 Zack: Basically means the total volume -- 110 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,433 air that's inside this house -- when this fan is running, 111 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:51,433 changes 10 times every single hour. 112 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:53,500 And that's air you're heating and conditioning, 113 00:04:53,566 --> 00:04:56,200 dehumidifying is getting taken out. 114 00:04:56,266 --> 00:04:57,600 Kevin: Every six minutes, 115 00:04:57,666 --> 00:05:00,333 you have to recondition all of the air in this house. 116 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,333 Zack: Under testing conditions. Kevin: Right, exactly. 117 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,033 So, Beth, you run the blower door test for us at this stage. 118 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:06,266 Beth: Mm-hmm. 119 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:07,900 Kevin: What did we get to? How did we do? 120 00:05:07,966 --> 00:05:09,600 Beth: 2.9. ACH. 121 00:05:09,666 --> 00:05:10,933 Kevin: Wow. Zack: Slight improvement. 122 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,333 Kevin: So from 10 or more 123 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,566 to less than three on the air changes per hour. 124 00:05:15,633 --> 00:05:16,800 And what do you think of that number? 125 00:05:16,866 --> 00:05:18,333 Beth: I think it's a great number. 126 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,500 I don't see it a lot in retrofits. 127 00:05:21,566 --> 00:05:25,700 And it's even lower than code for new construction. 128 00:05:25,766 --> 00:05:28,500 Kevin: Oh, wow. Congrats. That's very well done. 129 00:05:28,566 --> 00:05:29,933 I like to hear it. Zack: Well, remember, 130 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,500 we treated this house sort of like new construction 131 00:05:31,566 --> 00:05:34,133 where we have that WRB on the outside 132 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,200 and we taped all the windows. 133 00:05:36,266 --> 00:05:39,200 And so we did as much as we could, 134 00:05:39,266 --> 00:05:41,833 but obviously it's still not a brand-new house. 135 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:44,533 Kevin: Right. And at some point, we can get too tight, 136 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,100 which we have to then compensate for? 137 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:50,200 Beth: Yes. If you're too tight, if you are below that three -- 138 00:05:50,266 --> 00:05:51,500 Three is the cutoff -- 139 00:05:51,566 --> 00:05:53,733 You have to install mechanical ventilation. 140 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,900 Kevin: Which you did. Zack: We did. 141 00:05:54,966 --> 00:05:56,866 We put that HRV in the basement, 142 00:05:56,933 --> 00:05:59,833 which is sort of equivalent to opening a window up. 143 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:01,566 So you're not trapping 144 00:06:01,633 --> 00:06:03,400 all the stale air that we're breathing out. 145 00:06:03,466 --> 00:06:06,133 Kevin: So energy efficient, save us a ton of money, 146 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,500 but also healthy with fresh air coming in. 147 00:06:08,566 --> 00:06:10,100 Well done, guys, I love to hear it. 148 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:11,300 Zack: Yeah, some good news. 149 00:06:11,366 --> 00:06:14,000 Kevin: Congrats. Can I look at the numbers? 150 00:06:14,066 --> 00:06:20,200 ♪♪ 151 00:06:20,266 --> 00:06:26,366 ♪♪ 152 00:06:26,433 --> 00:06:29,000 Tom: So trim's really looking good in here. 153 00:06:29,066 --> 00:06:30,333 Zack: Yeah, we got the baseboard in. 154 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,666 We got most of it in, but there's this little 155 00:06:31,733 --> 00:06:33,866 complicated section I wanted to show you here. 156 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,133 Tom: Oh, yeah. 157 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,900 Zack: We've got a couple different angles. 158 00:06:36,966 --> 00:06:39,200 The skirt's a different height than the baseboard. 159 00:06:39,266 --> 00:06:40,933 The architects actually specified 160 00:06:41,033 --> 00:06:43,333 this radius detail here. 161 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,233 Tom: Oh, it's like an eased up on a handrail. 162 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:47,166 Zack: Exactly. And he thought that would look better, 163 00:06:47,233 --> 00:06:49,200 especially because it's dressed towards the front door. 164 00:06:49,266 --> 00:06:51,033 Tom: Well, definitely look better because you're right. 165 00:06:51,100 --> 00:06:52,766 This is a focal point when you first come in. 166 00:06:52,833 --> 00:06:54,633 And it's gonna be seen right away. 167 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:56,500 But there's a couple of different ways you can do this. 168 00:06:56,566 --> 00:06:58,200 I mean, I have a couple of short pieces of molding 169 00:06:58,266 --> 00:07:00,566 because we were cutting it on the other room, but... 170 00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:02,566 Alright. So we can take a couple of pieces of baseboard 171 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:05,233 like this, bisect that angle. 172 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:09,000 Then you could come up here and bisect this angle. 173 00:07:09,066 --> 00:07:10,600 But with the eased up, 174 00:07:10,666 --> 00:07:12,833 that detail is a little bit different. 175 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:16,033 We have to find a radius on this piece here and mark a radius. 176 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:17,466 Zack: Mm-hmm. 177 00:07:17,533 --> 00:07:19,333 Tom: And then we can then find the radius down here. 178 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,600 And then finding the molding to go on there. 179 00:07:22,666 --> 00:07:25,433 We can either have it made with a molding machine. 180 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:27,500 You could turn it on a lathe, 181 00:07:27,566 --> 00:07:29,533 or you can even make it out of plaster. 182 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Zack: Oof. Tom: You know. 183 00:07:31,266 --> 00:07:33,600 And that's a little tricky, but you make it on a table. 184 00:07:33,666 --> 00:07:36,466 They do a little tin knife and you draw it and you form it 185 00:07:36,533 --> 00:07:38,566 and you put it on there and it blends right in. 186 00:07:38,633 --> 00:07:41,566 That's the way they did a lot of it in the older houses. 187 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:43,533 Zack: Well, we're pretty lucky. The lumber yard that I purchased 188 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,866 this molding from actually sells it in a flexible variety. 189 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:50,266 So, this is actually... 190 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:52,300 Seemed like the easiest solution. 191 00:07:52,366 --> 00:07:54,633 Tom: Yeah, we've used this quite a bit. This is great. 192 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:57,866 It's handy as anything because it saves a lot of time. 193 00:07:57,933 --> 00:08:01,133 And we can form that to go right up the way we want it to. 194 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,766 Let's see if we can bend this one. 195 00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:05,300 Oh, yeah. Look at that. That'll bend nice. 196 00:08:05,366 --> 00:08:07,166 And then we'll miter that together. 197 00:08:07,233 --> 00:08:11,100 So that's gonna make a nice look. 198 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:14,800 Alright. So what we need to do is figure out our radius here 199 00:08:14,866 --> 00:08:16,400 and here and cut it. Zack: Alright. 200 00:08:16,466 --> 00:08:19,100 Let's get started. Tom: Okay. 201 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:21,766 Alright, I ripped a piece down the height of the base. 202 00:08:21,833 --> 00:08:23,566 We can put it on there. 203 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:25,666 Scribe a line once we do our arc. 204 00:08:25,733 --> 00:08:27,200 Zack: Alright, that'll work. 205 00:08:27,266 --> 00:08:30,966 Tom: Okay, so now we got to find the radius for this. 206 00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:32,600 Zack: So I can put a block here. 207 00:08:32,666 --> 00:08:35,833 So we're -- we're measuring off that. 208 00:08:38,133 --> 00:08:39,766 Tom: Alright. Perfect. Alright. 209 00:08:39,833 --> 00:08:43,166 So I'll get a square line off of our center right here. 210 00:08:43,233 --> 00:08:45,733 Right there. 211 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,066 Zack: Alright. I'll go this way. 212 00:08:48,133 --> 00:08:51,233 That good there? Tom: Should be. 213 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:52,633 Zack: Oh, perfect. Tom: Yeah. 214 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:54,100 Zack: I could take this compass in here. 215 00:08:54,166 --> 00:08:55,966 Put it in the corner there. Tom: Yeah. 216 00:08:56,033 --> 00:08:57,533 Now, that will be like the center 217 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,200 of our circle right there. 218 00:08:59,266 --> 00:09:01,600 Zack: Oh, right. Yeah. Tom: A radius. 219 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,266 Zack: That's bisecting there, right? 220 00:09:03,333 --> 00:09:05,100 So... Tom: Turn it around. 221 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:07,733 Zack: Alright. So... Tom: Swing that. 222 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,933 Nice. Perfect. 223 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,566 So now that transition, when the molding comes up, 224 00:09:12,633 --> 00:09:15,700 will swing right into that nicely and end up 225 00:09:15,766 --> 00:09:17,666 so we can then miter that corner. 226 00:09:17,733 --> 00:09:18,933 Alright. We have that one. 227 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,033 Now we need to mark the circumference 228 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:22,900 or the radius right down here. 229 00:09:22,966 --> 00:09:27,933 To do that, first thing I want to do is mark a line on the wall 230 00:09:28,033 --> 00:09:29,433 using a framing square. 231 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:33,100 Alright. So I'll make a line up the wall like that. 232 00:09:33,166 --> 00:09:37,500 What I want to do is now I need to find the same distance. 233 00:09:37,566 --> 00:09:42,766 So if I measure from here down right there 234 00:09:42,833 --> 00:09:44,833 at the bottom of that miter. 235 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:49,033 5 7/8. Oh, 6 -- almost 6 inches. 236 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,566 So if I mark from this point here over 237 00:09:52,633 --> 00:09:57,066 and I put a mark on the temporary base right here, 238 00:09:57,133 --> 00:10:00,166 I set my framing square on that 239 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:04,900 and draw a square line up off of the baseboard. 240 00:10:08,166 --> 00:10:12,000 Now that will be the center of our circle. 241 00:10:12,066 --> 00:10:16,133 Down to the baseboard will be our radius of our circle. 242 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,166 So I'll take a string. I'll put a pencil in the string. 243 00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:25,300 I'll hold the radius point right here. 244 00:10:25,366 --> 00:10:28,500 Put a mark. Check it there. 245 00:10:28,566 --> 00:10:33,900 Now I'll mark the arc of the circle right here. 246 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,966 And swing my arc right up. 247 00:10:38,033 --> 00:10:39,300 Zack: That looks good. Tom: Yeah. 248 00:10:39,366 --> 00:10:42,566 Now mark the top of the baseboard. 249 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:44,833 Now we have our piece that's gonna be cut. 250 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:47,700 Right there, we have the transition up 251 00:10:47,766 --> 00:10:49,666 and over and up again. 252 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:51,900 Alright, let's cut them. 253 00:10:51,966 --> 00:10:58,333 ♪♪ 254 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:04,733 ♪♪ 255 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:11,200 ♪♪ 256 00:11:11,266 --> 00:11:17,600 ♪♪ 257 00:11:17,666 --> 00:11:19,700 Alright, Zack, let's see how we did. 258 00:11:19,766 --> 00:11:21,566 Zack: Perfect. Let me see here. 259 00:11:23,566 --> 00:11:29,566 ♪♪ 260 00:11:29,633 --> 00:11:35,666 ♪♪ 261 00:11:35,733 --> 00:11:41,766 ♪♪ 262 00:11:41,833 --> 00:11:47,833 ♪♪ 263 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:49,500 Pass me that gun. Thanks. 264 00:11:49,566 --> 00:11:57,000 ♪♪ 265 00:11:57,066 --> 00:12:04,500 ♪♪ 266 00:12:04,566 --> 00:12:07,000 Alright. This is looking good. 267 00:12:07,066 --> 00:12:08,833 We'll try that base cap now. 268 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:10,833 Zack: Alright, there's that piece. 269 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:12,600 And here's the flexible one. 270 00:12:12,666 --> 00:12:15,500 Tom: I'm gonna start in the corner with a square cut. 271 00:12:15,566 --> 00:12:17,533 That looks good. You got a nice tight fit there. 272 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,800 So you're gonna mark the short right there. 273 00:12:19,866 --> 00:12:21,333 Zack: Alright. Done. Tom: Okay. 274 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,933 Now we want a transition point up here on the wall. 275 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,100 Line that one up. 276 00:12:26,166 --> 00:12:28,000 Alright. That's perfect. Okay. 277 00:12:28,066 --> 00:12:31,066 So now these lines that we have here at the top 278 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:33,266 and the line that we have at the bottom, 279 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:36,800 that's gonna give us our bisected angle for our miter. 280 00:12:36,866 --> 00:12:38,966 Alright. Now mark underneath. 281 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,166 Okay. So again we're gonna cut 282 00:12:43,233 --> 00:12:45,266 from this point to that point. 283 00:12:45,333 --> 00:12:47,533 That's gonna give us our bisected angle. 284 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,433 And the two pieces of molding should go together nicely. 285 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:57,533 ♪♪ 286 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:04,633 ♪♪ 287 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:06,800 Alright, now we're ready for the flexible piece. 288 00:13:06,866 --> 00:13:08,000 That looks great. 289 00:13:08,066 --> 00:13:10,500 Let's get a nail right above my finger. 290 00:13:10,566 --> 00:13:12,966 Alright, get one right above my thumb down here. 291 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:19,966 ♪♪ 292 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:22,633 Alright, Zack. There you go. Looks pretty good, huh? 293 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:24,566 Zack: Yeah, it looks great, Tommy. Thanks for the help. 294 00:13:24,633 --> 00:13:26,533 Tom: Yeah, that little subtle detail there, 295 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,900 it's in the front entryway. 296 00:13:27,966 --> 00:13:29,500 You notice it, but you don't notice. 297 00:13:29,566 --> 00:13:30,900 Zack: Yeah. It's gonna make the job much better. 298 00:13:30,966 --> 00:13:32,133 Tom: Yeah, it sure looks great. 299 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,133 Alright. A lot of fun. 300 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,133 ♪♪ 301 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Kevin: This town is very proud of its big old trees, 302 00:13:42,666 --> 00:13:44,366 but they don't last forever. 303 00:13:44,433 --> 00:13:46,200 And so when the old ones come down, 304 00:13:46,266 --> 00:13:48,933 they have a commission to make sure that the new ones come in 305 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,700 and that they are just right. 306 00:13:50,766 --> 00:13:52,233 And before the snow came down, 307 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:55,833 Jenn met with the head of that commission. 308 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:58,366 Jenn: While the gas lanterns and bluestone sidewalks 309 00:13:58,433 --> 00:14:00,933 really give Glen Ridge that old-world charm, 310 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,100 it's the mature trees that line these streets that accentuate 311 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:07,100 and give it that idyllic setting, 312 00:14:07,166 --> 00:14:11,066 and Elizabeth Baker makes sure it stays that way. 313 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:13,833 So, Elizabeth, tell us about the Shade Tree Commission. 314 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:17,633 Elizabeth: Well, the Shade Tree Commission was formed in 2010. 315 00:14:17,700 --> 00:14:19,600 Jenn: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth: Exactly 100 years 316 00:14:19,666 --> 00:14:23,400 after the original Shade Tree Commission was formed. 317 00:14:23,466 --> 00:14:27,533 And in 2010, what we were facing 318 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,666 was a loss of trees at epic proportions. 319 00:14:31,733 --> 00:14:33,766 Jenn: So you brought it back? Elizabeth: I did. 320 00:14:33,833 --> 00:14:34,900 Jenn: So tell us about 321 00:14:34,966 --> 00:14:36,833 the species of trees that you select. 322 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:39,600 How do you go about selecting them for each street? 323 00:14:39,666 --> 00:14:42,833 Elizabeth: Well, we've gotten to know what works best 324 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,433 on Glen Ridge streets. Jenn: Mm-hmm. 325 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:48,266 Elizabeth: We have 57 different tree species planted. 326 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:54,200 And because maples are no longer acclimated to this region, 327 00:14:54,266 --> 00:14:56,600 we're picking trees for the future. 328 00:14:56,666 --> 00:14:58,766 So we are looking at southern trees. 329 00:14:58,833 --> 00:15:00,333 Jenn: Okay. 330 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Elizabeth: For example, we are planning a lot of yellowwoods, 331 00:15:02,666 --> 00:15:05,466 which are indigenous to the southwest United States, 332 00:15:05,533 --> 00:15:07,533 and we're having very good success with them. 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,733 Jenn: So in your commission, so you'll go take a street, 334 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,266 maybe one or two streets per year, and then you... 335 00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:15,133 Elizabeth: We walk it. Jenn: Okay. 336 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,133 Elizabeth: Decide what tree shall go into every site. 337 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,666 We're very diligent about it. 338 00:15:19,733 --> 00:15:21,033 We do our homework, 339 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:24,500 but we strive for as many big trees as possible. 340 00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:26,033 Jenn: It really gives it 341 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:27,766 that classic, old-world charm and just feels -- 342 00:15:27,833 --> 00:15:29,633 It really makes it feel like a neighborhood. 343 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:31,000 Right? Elizabeth: Yes, it does. 344 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:33,766 My love of trees comes from growing up in this town. 345 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:36,000 Jenn: Ah, it's so cool. Elizabeth: It truly does. 346 00:15:36,066 --> 00:15:37,400 Jenn: Yeah, yeah, well, 347 00:15:37,466 --> 00:15:39,000 I'm sure you're gonna create lots of memories 348 00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:42,233 for people on this street, so... Elizabeth: Well, I hope so. 349 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:43,566 Jenn: Excellent. I'm looking forward 350 00:15:43,633 --> 00:15:45,266 to see what's being planted on this street. 351 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:47,100 It looks like your crew is getting ready. 352 00:15:47,166 --> 00:15:49,133 What cultivars are we planting here? 353 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,933 Elizabeth: Okay, we're planting two yellowwood trees 354 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,766 and a blackgum. Jenn: Fantastic. 355 00:15:55,833 --> 00:16:03,933 ♪♪ 356 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:12,133 ♪♪ 357 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,433 Kevin: On the second floor, 358 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:14,933 we've got the extra bedrooms behind me, 359 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,500 but from this doorway back is the entire primary suite, 360 00:16:18,566 --> 00:16:21,133 with a bedroom back there, an office right there, 361 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,833 and then closet and bathroom right here in the middle. 362 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,000 Gary, nice to meet you. 363 00:16:25,066 --> 00:16:26,533 Gary: Hey, Kevin. Nice to meet you. 364 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Kevin: So you got a lot of the tile down already. 365 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:30,366 Love the floor tile. What is that pattern? 366 00:16:30,433 --> 00:16:33,400 Gary: So this is a 2-piece star and cross pattern, 367 00:16:33,466 --> 00:16:35,833 interlocking pattern. Kevin: Okay. 368 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:38,300 Gary: We went zero entry going into the shower, 369 00:16:38,366 --> 00:16:40,300 so meaning curbless. 370 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:43,766 The glass door will go here and about 38 inches out 371 00:16:43,833 --> 00:16:45,966 right into this wall, all leading to the drain. 372 00:16:46,033 --> 00:16:48,500 Kevin: Right. So shower in this corner. 373 00:16:48,566 --> 00:16:50,333 Floor tile is porcelain, it looks like? 374 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,833 Gary: Porcelain. Yeah. Kevin: Same as the wall tile? 375 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:53,600 Gary: Same -- same as the wall tile. 376 00:16:53,666 --> 00:16:55,666 It's a 2-inch by 6-inch porcelain. 377 00:16:55,733 --> 00:16:58,100 Kevin: Oh, yeah. Okay. And so it's got a glazing on it. 378 00:16:58,166 --> 00:17:00,700 And you can see it's got that sort of rough texture 379 00:17:00,766 --> 00:17:02,533 almost if it's handmade. Gary: Exactly. 380 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,933 Kevin: That's nice. 381 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,900 Gary: And we used a crosshatch pattern, 382 00:17:05,966 --> 00:17:08,766 which is three going vertically, three going horizontally... 383 00:17:08,833 --> 00:17:10,133 Kevin: Oh, nice. 384 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,533 Gary: ...starting with a full tile at the floor. 385 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,200 And I started with a half tile right in the corner. 386 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:14,700 Kevin: Layout is everything for you guys, right? 387 00:17:14,766 --> 00:17:16,033 Because if you get it wrong, it doesn't look right. 388 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:17,866 And you got a million cuts. Gary: Exactly. 389 00:17:17,933 --> 00:17:19,666 Kevin: So you start in the corner and you start 390 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:21,266 on the floor and you work your way up and in. 391 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:22,633 Gary: Up and in. Yeah. 392 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:24,500 Which leads us to our soap shelf, 393 00:17:24,566 --> 00:17:26,400 our recessed niche. Kevin: Right. 394 00:17:26,466 --> 00:17:28,300 A niche that's not in yet though. 395 00:17:28,366 --> 00:17:30,433 So this is what's going in? Gary: Correct. 396 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:32,066 Kevin: So these are great. Gary: These are great. 397 00:17:32,133 --> 00:17:34,100 They're already waterproof, pre-made. 398 00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:37,100 Kevin: But you didn't precut the opening. 399 00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:38,333 Gary: Not yet. 400 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,266 Kevin: So explain that to me. Why not? 401 00:17:40,333 --> 00:17:42,433 Gary: Well, we like to have a full tile top and bottom 402 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:44,700 of the soap shelf and left and right. 403 00:17:44,766 --> 00:17:47,800 Kevin: So even more accurate than laying it out beforehand 404 00:17:47,866 --> 00:17:50,333 is to start tiling... Gary: Correct. 405 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,766 Kevin: ...get it close, and then fine-tune it 406 00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:53,333 to exactly where the niche goes? Gary: Exactly. 407 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,066 This way that ensures exactly where my full tiles are. 408 00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:57,966 Kevin: Wow. So you got to cut that out after. 409 00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,300 Gary: Yep. Kevin: And you've scored it. 410 00:17:59,366 --> 00:18:00,800 So is that ready to come out? 411 00:18:00,866 --> 00:18:01,966 Gary: Ready to go. Kevin: Alright, I'm with you. 412 00:18:02,033 --> 00:18:03,900 I want to see this whole thing go down. 413 00:18:08,366 --> 00:18:10,600 Off it goes. Wait. Now, hang on a second here. 414 00:18:10,666 --> 00:18:15,033 So...you are between two studs. 415 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,200 You're in a bay. Gary: Correct. 416 00:18:17,266 --> 00:18:19,566 We actually got really lucky on this one. 417 00:18:19,633 --> 00:18:21,700 We're...We had... Kevin: [ Laughing ] 418 00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:23,466 I figured you'd be right in the middle of a stud 419 00:18:23,533 --> 00:18:24,833 or something like that. 420 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,366 Gary: Normally we would be. This time we got lucky. 421 00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:29,966 Kevin: So had you ended up with a stud somewhere in here, 422 00:18:30,033 --> 00:18:31,900 would you still do this, knowing that you had to cut 423 00:18:31,966 --> 00:18:34,500 through a 2x6 or a 2x4? Gary: Oh, absolutely. 424 00:18:34,566 --> 00:18:37,400 We always try to get a full tile top, bottom, left, right. 425 00:18:37,466 --> 00:18:39,500 Kevin: Whatever it takes to get this right, you'll do it there. 426 00:18:39,566 --> 00:18:40,800 Gary: Correct. 427 00:18:40,866 --> 00:18:42,866 Kevin: Okay. Well, we'll take the luck. 428 00:18:42,933 --> 00:18:46,366 So in goes the pre-made niche. 429 00:18:46,433 --> 00:18:48,800 Oh, I get it. 430 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:50,700 I thought these were gonna overhang, these little ears, 431 00:18:50,766 --> 00:18:53,200 but they actually run flush. Gary: Exactly. 432 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:55,600 Kevin: Okay. So that's so -- Can you prove to me 433 00:18:55,666 --> 00:18:57,600 that you nailed it with your layout here? 434 00:18:57,666 --> 00:19:00,266 Gary: I sure can. Kevin: So there's our crosshatch 435 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:02,266 coming right in to where it has to. 436 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:06,066 And then on the horizontal, which would go here... 437 00:19:06,133 --> 00:19:07,400 One, two. 438 00:19:07,466 --> 00:19:09,700 And there's gonna be spacers. [ Whistles ] 439 00:19:09,766 --> 00:19:11,500 Gary: Full tile. Kevin: Look at that. Perfect. 440 00:19:11,566 --> 00:19:14,466 And that means that inside the niche, 441 00:19:14,533 --> 00:19:19,600 we'll have a full horizontal and then three verticals. 442 00:19:19,666 --> 00:19:21,666 Gary: Correct. We'll fold that right in. 443 00:19:21,733 --> 00:19:23,500 Kevin: And I'm just presuming here 444 00:19:23,566 --> 00:19:25,866 that this ear is the size of a tile. 445 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:27,333 So it starts there and continues? 446 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,166 Gary: Correct. Kevin: Wow. 447 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:30,800 So you nailed it. Okay. 448 00:19:30,866 --> 00:19:33,433 And in terms of fastening, how do you do that? 449 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:35,933 Gary: Uh, so I usually put six screws -- two here, 450 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 two here, two here, which we're ready to do right now. 451 00:19:38,066 --> 00:19:39,333 Kevin: Okay. 452 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,566 Gary: If you want to just pass me those screws. 453 00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:42,066 Kevin: So there's your drill. 454 00:19:42,133 --> 00:19:44,100 These are the buttons that you would use normally 455 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,200 to install the sheets... Gary: Correct. 456 00:19:46,266 --> 00:19:47,666 Kevin: ...on this wall anyway, right? 457 00:19:47,733 --> 00:19:50,433 Gary: Yeah. Inch and a half screws with, uh, washers. 458 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,833 Kevin: So you're just pushing those in. 459 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,933 There's that guy. You got one? 460 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,333 Alright. And then obviously you just got the screws there. 461 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,566 ♪♪ 462 00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:06,366 Gary: Well, now we have to put the fabric over the seams 463 00:20:06,433 --> 00:20:08,900 to ensure 100% waterproofing. 464 00:20:08,966 --> 00:20:16,900 ♪♪ 465 00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:24,900 ♪♪ 466 00:20:24,966 --> 00:20:26,633 Kevin: And so then it's just repeat the process 467 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,700 around all four sides. Gary: All four sides. 468 00:20:28,766 --> 00:20:31,900 Kevin: Wow. Look at that. And so you'd never have any idea 469 00:20:31,966 --> 00:20:34,333 that this niche was put in after the fact. 470 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,300 Gary: Nope. No one will know. Kevin: Awesome. 471 00:20:36,366 --> 00:20:37,566 Appreciate it. I'll leave you to it. 472 00:20:37,633 --> 00:20:39,133 Gary: Thanks, Kev. Kevin: Thanks, Gary. 473 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,800 ♪♪ 474 00:20:44,866 --> 00:20:48,800 This house has almost 60 window openings, 475 00:20:48,866 --> 00:20:50,266 and all of them need to be trimmed out. 476 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:51,866 And so Zack and his crew found 477 00:20:51,933 --> 00:20:55,100 that it's better to sort of prefabricate the trim packet. 478 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:56,466 It gives them a level of efficiency. 479 00:20:56,533 --> 00:20:59,500 And also they found some good air sealing. 480 00:20:59,566 --> 00:21:01,800 Kalen, when I was upstairs with Zack, 481 00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:03,200 I saw the plastic on the window 482 00:21:03,266 --> 00:21:04,666 because you guys were spraying them. 483 00:21:04,733 --> 00:21:06,366 I didn't realize the plastic went on the back first. 484 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,833 Kalen: Yeah, because we have them pre-assembled, 485 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,600 we have the opportunity to do a few things 486 00:21:09,666 --> 00:21:12,100 and one of those is putting the plastic on before. 487 00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:14,300 So that's gonna help us get a cleaner job, 488 00:21:14,366 --> 00:21:16,033 and it's gonna save loads of time for the painter. 489 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,100 Kevin: Nice. And then the caulk that you got going on? 490 00:21:18,166 --> 00:21:19,333 Kalen: Yeah. Yeah. We got a healthy bead 491 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,566 of sealant going all the way around. 492 00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:21,966 That's gonna do two things for us. 493 00:21:22,033 --> 00:21:23,900 It's gonna help us achieve a better air seal, 494 00:21:23,966 --> 00:21:25,933 and it's also gonna allow me to use fewer nails 495 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,533 because I can bed that in 496 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,300 and it's gonna hold it in place once it seals up. 497 00:21:29,366 --> 00:21:30,666 Kevin: Nice. Alright. So is this one ready to go in? 498 00:21:30,733 --> 00:21:31,733 Kalen: Ready to go in. You wanna give me a hand? 499 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,400 Kevin: Yeah, absolutely. 500 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:36,933 We just eyeballing this? 501 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,366 Kalen: Just eyeballing it, yeah. 502 00:21:38,433 --> 00:21:40,566 Kevin: Oh. It's interesting. 503 00:21:43,066 --> 00:21:44,800 I'm way high up top. 504 00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:46,066 Kalen: Yeah. You can come down. 505 00:21:46,133 --> 00:21:47,933 Kevin: Right? Oh, there we go. 506 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,400 Kalen: I'm low, too. 507 00:21:49,466 --> 00:21:51,100 Kevin: How is your reveal over there? 508 00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:53,600 Kalen: I'm looking pretty good. I can fool with the top after, 509 00:21:53,666 --> 00:21:55,633 but as long as we get this corner right here good, 510 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:57,033 I can go ahead and get a fastener in it. 511 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:58,466 Kevin: I'm looking pretty good, too. 512 00:21:58,533 --> 00:21:59,533 Kalen: Alright. You ready? Kevin: Yep. 513 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,033 ♪♪ 514 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,000 Just four nails and you're basically set. 515 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:07,633 Kalen: Basically done. Kevin: What do you think, Tommy? 516 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:08,766 Tom: Ah, I like it. 517 00:22:08,833 --> 00:22:10,100 The last of the window casing went in. 518 00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:12,000 You got a little more trim to do around the house, 519 00:22:12,066 --> 00:22:13,833 and it's really starting to look good. 520 00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:15,200 Zack:: It's coming along. Tom: Yeah. 521 00:22:15,266 --> 00:22:17,033 Kevin: So what do we got coming up next week, Zack? 522 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,600 Zack: Next week we got kitchen cabinets, 523 00:22:18,666 --> 00:22:21,366 finishing the floors, painting the interior. 524 00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:22,966 A lot of little details. Kevin: Alright. 525 00:22:23,033 --> 00:22:25,233 Sounds good. Getting down to the homestretch. 526 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:26,866 So until then, I'm Kevin O'Connor. 527 00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:28,166 Tom: I'm Tom Silva. Zack: I'm Zack Dettmer. 528 00:22:28,233 --> 00:22:29,533 Kalen: And I'm Kalen Gomez. 529 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,833 Kevin: For "This Old House" down here in New Jersey. 530 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,100 Tom: Looking good. I really like the way you do this trim. 531 00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:36,566 Make it up as a unit and put it in place. 532 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,766 Kevin: Next time on "This Old House," 533 00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:45,466 I'll learn about a 2-part paint 534 00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:48,366 that makes an ideal cabinet finish. 535 00:22:50,266 --> 00:22:52,066 Zack: And I'll show you how to install crown molding 536 00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:53,733 without a nail hole in sight. 537 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:59,000 Jenn: And I'll share my design plan that provides curb appeal 538 00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:01,133 and color throughout the seasons. 539 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,100 This is another viewpoint looking down into the garden 540 00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,200 from the steps. 541 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:08,900 Sunita: Oh. Looks amazing. 542 00:23:08,966 --> 00:23:10,333 Kevin: That's next time.