1 00:00:07,807 --> 00:00:12,112 >> Brooke: Hope, you didn't answer my question. 2 00:00:12,178 --> 00:00:15,081 Are you having feelings for Finn? 3 00:00:15,148 --> 00:00:16,516 >> Hope: Where is this coming from? 4 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:20,019 All I said is that Finn is a great guy. 5 00:00:20,086 --> 00:00:22,155 >> Hope: It's the way you said it. 6 00:00:22,222 --> 00:00:26,926 I can hear it in your voice. Honey, just be honest with me. 7 00:00:26,993 --> 00:00:29,362 Are you falling for Steffy's husband? 8 00:00:31,731 --> 00:00:33,600 >> Steffy: Hope is incredibly toxic. 9 00:00:33,666 --> 00:00:35,668 The fact that she's trying to support you having 10 00:00:35,735 --> 00:00:37,904 a relationship with Sheila just shows you 11 00:00:37,971 --> 00:00:41,274 how delusional Hope is. And Sheila's only playing nice 12 00:00:41,341 --> 00:00:44,844 because she married her father. >> Finn: Look, I-- 13 00:00:44,911 --> 00:00:46,479 honey, I understand your frustration, 14 00:00:46,546 --> 00:00:50,116 but I don't-- I don't think that's the way Hope feels. 15 00:00:50,183 --> 00:00:53,119 And I have to say, she has been very kind to me. 16 00:00:56,122 --> 00:00:58,625 >> Steffy: You have to trust me, Finn. 17 00:00:58,691 --> 00:01:01,494 I'm more experienced with Hope than you are. 18 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:03,797 You need to keep your distance from Hope. 19 00:01:03,863 --> 00:01:07,000 ♪♪♪ 20 00:01:08,935 --> 00:01:11,438 >> Liam: Well, Tracey, this is-- this is so appreciated. 21 00:01:11,504 --> 00:01:14,707 You-- you probably just saved us from a PR nightmare, so. 22 00:01:14,774 --> 00:01:16,176 >> Tracey: Just doing what you hired me for. 23 00:01:16,242 --> 00:01:18,144 Mitigating any unwanted surprises. 24 00:01:18,211 --> 00:01:21,714 >> Bill: Yeah, we don't want any of those at Spencer. 25 00:01:21,781 --> 00:01:24,851 Although sometimes they can be the best part of life. 26 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:28,488 Unexpected surprises. 27 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,863 >> Poppy: Bill was so happy to learn that Luna's his 28 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:40,433 daughter and he's fully embraced her into his life 29 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:45,939 and the two of us into his home. 30 00:01:46,005 --> 00:01:49,342 >> Luna: I know it's a lot to take in. 31 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:52,712 >> Poppy: Katie, I really value 32 00:01:52,779 --> 00:01:55,849 and respect your opinion. Look, you may not be married 33 00:01:55,915 --> 00:01:58,718 to Bill anymore, but you're still an important person 34 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:01,988 in his life. It would really mean a lot if 35 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:04,791 you could give my daughter and me your blessing. 36 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:18,905 ♪♪♪ 37 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:25,879 ♪♪♪ 38 00:02:25,945 --> 00:02:32,819 ♪♪♪ 39 00:02:32,886 --> 00:02:40,393 ♪♪♪ 40 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:47,066 ♪♪♪ 41 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:54,574 ♪♪♪ 42 00:02:56,175 --> 00:02:57,677 >> Liam: Thank you so much again, Tracey. 43 00:02:57,744 --> 00:02:59,178 We'll be in touch. And as always, 44 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:02,448 validation's on him. Take care. 45 00:03:05,985 --> 00:03:07,820 >> Bill: What? >> Liam: What? 46 00:03:07,887 --> 00:03:11,090 What was that? You-- you-- you-- 47 00:03:11,157 --> 00:03:13,993 Talk to me, okay? We're in a meeting and you're 48 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:16,663 talking all this about unexpected surprises. 49 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:18,331 You wait until it's just you and me. 50 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:21,401 Talk to me. >> Bill: About what? 51 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:23,836 >> Liam: Oh, that's cute. That's so cute. 52 00:03:23,903 --> 00:03:25,772 Uh, Luna. >> Bill: All right, look. 53 00:03:25,838 --> 00:03:28,641 What do you want me to say? You know how I feel about her. 54 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:30,743 >> Liam: Well, I know how you felt about her the last time 55 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:34,814 we did this, but I don't know. Maybe-- maybe the euphoria has 56 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:37,016 subsided a little bit. You've gotten some perspective. 57 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:41,454 How do you feel now about Poppy giving you a daughter? 58 00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:45,158 >> Katie: I don't really know you all that well, Poppy, 59 00:03:45,224 --> 00:03:48,861 but I think very highly of Luna. She's been a great addition 60 00:03:48,928 --> 00:03:52,031 to Forrester and you've become very important to my nephew. 61 00:03:52,098 --> 00:03:54,467 >> Poppy: Well, you've all made a very profound impact 62 00:03:54,534 --> 00:03:57,604 on my daughter. >> Katie: Not as big an impact 63 00:03:57,670 --> 00:04:00,907 as you've made on Bill, apparently. 64 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:04,344 Bill and I haven't had a chance to discuss this, 65 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:06,779 so I was hoping he would be here. 66 00:04:06,846 --> 00:04:08,881 And this is big, surprising news. 67 00:04:08,948 --> 00:04:11,551 And it doesn't just affect your lives, but... 68 00:04:11,618 --> 00:04:13,920 it affects my son Will's life as well. 69 00:04:19,859 --> 00:04:25,164 >> Finn: I love you for being so protective. 70 00:04:25,231 --> 00:04:29,402 And look, I hear your concerns with Hope. 71 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:31,404 All right, you're right, I-- I don't know the Logans 72 00:04:31,471 --> 00:04:35,608 as well as you do. >> Steffy: Thank you. 73 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:38,011 >> Finn: And seriously, there is nothing you need to worry about 74 00:04:38,077 --> 00:04:40,113 when it comes to Hope and me. 75 00:04:41,848 --> 00:04:46,619 >> Brooke: I am not judging you or accusing you of anything. 76 00:04:46,686 --> 00:04:48,321 >> Hope: Well it certainly feels like it. 77 00:04:48,388 --> 00:04:51,190 >> Brooke: Please, honey, just tell me. 78 00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:56,596 Are you developing feelings for Finn? 79 00:04:56,663 --> 00:04:58,831 [ Hope sighs ] >> Hope: Okay, you want 80 00:04:58,898 --> 00:05:05,204 the truth, Mom? Yes, I am starting to... 81 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:08,541 care more about Finn. >> Brooke: Huh. 82 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:11,978 ♪♪♪ 83 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,989 >> Bill: When I first looked at the paternity test results, 84 00:05:23,056 --> 00:05:26,926 it was like time stood still. I mean, I was speechless. 85 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:29,295 >> Liam: Well, I mean, you speechless, that's-- 86 00:05:29,362 --> 00:05:32,465 that's saying something. >> Bill: I know, right? 87 00:05:45,578 --> 00:05:48,147 >> Luna: What? What is it? 88 00:05:51,651 --> 00:05:55,088 That's-- that's two stripes. That means that-- 89 00:05:55,154 --> 00:05:56,889 that means you're my dad. 90 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,472 I can't believe it. >> Poppy: It's true. 91 00:06:12,538 --> 00:06:16,442 You are Luna's father. Oh, baby. 92 00:06:16,509 --> 00:06:20,012 You finally got your answer. Bill is your father. 93 00:06:24,717 --> 00:06:28,154 >> Bill: Well, uh, I guess it's time we have 94 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,990 our first official family hug. 95 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:39,866 >> Liam: What a-- what a life-changing moment. 96 00:06:39,932 --> 00:06:44,403 >> Bill: Truly. And I feel so blessed. 97 00:06:44,470 --> 00:06:46,672 You know, my greatest joy in life, 98 00:06:46,739 --> 00:06:49,709 well, other than hostile takeovers, 99 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:52,245 crushing the competition, making mounds of money... 100 00:06:52,311 --> 00:06:56,415 >> Liam: Sure. >> Bill: ...Are my kids. 101 00:06:56,482 --> 00:07:00,520 You, Wyatt and Will. >> Liam: And now, 102 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:05,258 you've got a daughter. >> Bill: And you have a sister. 103 00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:12,832 >> Liam: Ah. [ both chuckling ] 104 00:07:12,899 --> 00:07:15,268 >> Luna: You know, I'm still trying to process 105 00:07:15,334 --> 00:07:17,703 all of this, too. It's always just been my mom 106 00:07:17,770 --> 00:07:20,907 and me, and now I finally have a dad and a whole extended 107 00:07:20,973 --> 00:07:23,643 family, and I can't believe I have brothers. 108 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:27,747 And I can't wait to meet Will, and, um, I'm sure it'll be 109 00:07:27,814 --> 00:07:30,917 a little bit awkward in the beginning, but I think with time 110 00:07:30,983 --> 00:07:32,585 it'll-- it'll be okay. 111 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:35,454 [ cell phone chimes ] 112 00:07:39,058 --> 00:07:42,461 >> Luna: Oh, it's RJ. Um, I really should get going. 113 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:44,130 He's still trying to wrap his head around the fact that 114 00:07:44,197 --> 00:07:46,799 Bill's my dad, too, so bye. >> Katie: Bye. 115 00:07:59,111 --> 00:08:01,314 >> Katie: You have a lovely daughter. 116 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:06,219 >> Poppy: Thank you. I mean, like we said, 117 00:08:06,285 --> 00:08:09,589 this is a lot to take in, and I'm sure that you and Bill 118 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:13,125 have a lot to discuss, but... as I said, 119 00:08:13,192 --> 00:08:16,529 he isn't home right now. I can let him know 120 00:08:16,596 --> 00:08:19,832 you stopped by. >> Katie: I'm sorry, are you 121 00:08:19,899 --> 00:08:21,500 telling me to leave? 122 00:08:26,873 --> 00:08:29,008 >> Steffy: Hope doesn't worry me. 123 00:08:29,075 --> 00:08:32,345 She bothers me. She's passing judgment on 124 00:08:32,411 --> 00:08:35,414 my feelings about your relationship with Sheila, 125 00:08:35,481 --> 00:08:39,051 the woman who terrorized us. >> Finn: Well, I think Hope, 126 00:08:39,118 --> 00:08:42,455 she's just trying to help. >> Steffy: She can't even 127 00:08:42,521 --> 00:08:46,058 help herself. I mean, her marriage ended, 128 00:08:46,125 --> 00:08:49,128 Thomas and Douglas left, Hope for the Future is sinking, 129 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:51,464 her father married a psychopath, and you think that she has 130 00:08:51,530 --> 00:08:55,568 enough on her plate for you? You don't really think this is 131 00:08:55,635 --> 00:08:57,870 coming from a place of jealousy or insecurity, right? 132 00:08:57,937 --> 00:09:01,607 >> Finn: No, I don't. I don't. 133 00:09:01,674 --> 00:09:04,543 >> Steffy: I do feel very uncomfortable with you 134 00:09:04,610 --> 00:09:07,880 hanging around Hope, especially with 135 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:10,383 her behavior lately. I mean, you see the way she 136 00:09:10,449 --> 00:09:13,119 used Thomas to cope with her divorce from Liam, 137 00:09:13,185 --> 00:09:15,821 and now she sees the good in Sheila, 138 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:19,692 and she supports you having a relationship with her? 139 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:23,596 Hope's lost, and when she's lost, 140 00:09:23,663 --> 00:09:24,397 she's reckless. 141 00:09:30,336 --> 00:09:32,171 >> Brooke: You're starting to care about Finn. 142 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:37,276 >> Hope: Well, how can I not? He's become a very, very good 143 00:09:37,343 --> 00:09:39,011 friend to me, and look at how he is with people. 144 00:09:39,078 --> 00:09:43,449 He's compassionate, he's caring, he wants the best for people, 145 00:09:43,516 --> 00:09:47,486 even when it's difficult. >> Brooke: Like with Sheila? 146 00:09:47,553 --> 00:09:50,056 >> Hope: Exactly, like with Sheila. 147 00:09:50,122 --> 00:09:53,259 I mean, what kind of man has that capacity for 148 00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:56,562 understanding, for forgiveness? I mean, it makes sense why 149 00:09:56,629 --> 00:09:58,831 he's such an amazing doctor. I mean, he's-- 150 00:09:58,898 --> 00:10:01,467 he's even helped me recently. >> Brooke: Helped you? 151 00:10:01,534 --> 00:10:04,503 How? Are you a patient of Finn's? 152 00:10:07,606 --> 00:10:12,244 ♪♪♪ 153 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:15,715 Hope? 154 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,352 ♪♪♪ 155 00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:33,666 >> Liam: Well, I am really happy for you, because I can see 156 00:10:33,733 --> 00:10:36,502 how captivated you are, not just with Luna, 157 00:10:36,569 --> 00:10:41,040 but with her mother, Poppy. >> Bill: She is something else. 158 00:10:41,107 --> 00:10:42,508 >> Liam: Yeah, she better be something else. 159 00:10:42,575 --> 00:10:45,144 If you had one night together 20 years ago, and there's still 160 00:10:45,211 --> 00:10:47,813 this-- this spark. >> Bill: No, it's more 161 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,118 than a spark, Liam. It's like we are frozen in time. 162 00:10:52,184 --> 00:10:56,555 I mean, I-- I look at Poppy and I still see that same young 163 00:10:56,622 --> 00:11:01,494 woman that just took my breath away at that music festival. 164 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:02,728 What? >> Liam: Can I tell you how much 165 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:05,064 it delights me to picture you at a music festival? 166 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:06,665 Did you use lights? >> Bill: Don't do it. 167 00:11:06,732 --> 00:11:09,101 Don't do it, I will choke you with your own tie. 168 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:10,603 >> Liam: Fair enough. >> Bill: Now, can we just be 169 00:11:10,669 --> 00:11:13,806 serious for a minute? You understand that Poppy 170 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:19,512 didn't just give me memories. She gave me a daughter 171 00:11:19,578 --> 00:11:22,882 that night. It's incredible. 172 00:11:22,948 --> 00:11:26,252 >> Liam: I know. Speaking of, 173 00:11:26,318 --> 00:11:28,654 there is another woman in LA who gave you a child. 174 00:11:28,721 --> 00:11:32,391 Have you, um, have you spoken to Katie at all 175 00:11:32,458 --> 00:11:33,659 about Luna and Poppy? 176 00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:37,463 >> Poppy: Katie, I would never 177 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:40,132 ask you to leave. You're a part of 178 00:11:40,199 --> 00:11:44,403 this family too. >> Katie: Glad to hear it. 179 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:47,039 >> Poppy: I don't want there to be tension between us. 180 00:11:47,106 --> 00:11:51,343 I mean, our kids are siblings. We're family now. 181 00:11:51,410 --> 00:11:54,213 And I know it's gonna take some getting used to. 182 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,516 This used to be your home, but... 183 00:11:57,583 --> 00:12:00,419 now it's mine. I know there's gonna be 184 00:12:00,486 --> 00:12:02,388 an adjustment, but I truly hope 185 00:12:02,455 --> 00:12:06,125 to become good friends. Now as you can imagine, 186 00:12:06,192 --> 00:12:08,661 I do have a million things to do around here. 187 00:12:08,727 --> 00:12:14,200 I mean, this place could definitely use a woman's touch. 188 00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:16,902 And honestly, I just assumed that you'd wanna be on 189 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:21,107 your way since Bill isn't here. But as I said, 190 00:12:21,173 --> 00:12:24,710 I will let him know that you stopped by. 191 00:12:24,777 --> 00:12:28,447 Although, I'm certain that he'll just wanna be alone 192 00:12:28,514 --> 00:12:29,515 with Luna and me. ♪♪♪ 193 00:12:35,454 --> 00:12:37,389 >> Steffy: Hope has zero self-awareness. 194 00:12:37,456 --> 00:12:39,992 You saw it with my brother when she lost Liam. 195 00:12:40,059 --> 00:12:43,496 And now she lost Thomas and Douglas. 196 00:12:43,562 --> 00:12:45,464 And she doesn't wanna lose her dad. 197 00:12:45,531 --> 00:12:47,800 So what does she do? >> Finn: She becomes 198 00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:49,702 accepting of Sheila. >> Steffy: Hope's standards 199 00:12:49,768 --> 00:12:51,770 and beliefs, they sway like the wind. 200 00:12:51,837 --> 00:12:53,772 I mean, one minute she hates Sheila, and the next 201 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:55,574 she's trying to convince you to go to her wedding. 202 00:12:55,641 --> 00:12:57,176 >> Finn: Okay, look, you may have a point, 203 00:12:57,243 --> 00:13:00,146 but would that not be a great reason to feel for Hope 204 00:13:00,212 --> 00:13:03,849 instead of criticizing her? Look, maybe she needs our help. 205 00:13:06,318 --> 00:13:08,154 >> Brooke: You've been seeing Finn as a patient? 206 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:10,523 >> Hope: Well, no, not officially. 207 00:13:10,589 --> 00:13:13,159 >> Brooke: Are you sick? >> Hope: No, I just-- I've been 208 00:13:13,225 --> 00:13:16,061 getting these headaches. I think they're migraines. 209 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:19,765 >> Brooke: Oh, I had no idea. >> Hope: Yeah, I was with Finn 210 00:13:19,832 --> 00:13:23,636 when one of them came on and he thinks it is due to stress. 211 00:13:23,702 --> 00:13:26,805 >> Brooke: So, did he prescribe you something? 212 00:13:26,872 --> 00:13:31,610 >> Hope: No, but, uh... let's just say Finn has 213 00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:33,012 healing hands. ♪♪♪ 214 00:13:51,197 --> 00:13:52,031 >> Bill: Thank you. 215 00:13:52,865 --> 00:13:53,999 >> Liam: I'm only asking if 216 00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:56,402 you've talked to Katie about-- about Luna and Poppy because 217 00:13:56,468 --> 00:13:59,004 it affects Will. >> Bill: Yes, I realize that. 218 00:13:59,071 --> 00:14:02,274 And no, I haven't talked to Katie yet. 219 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:04,610 >> Liam: Dad. >> Bill: Will you relax? 220 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:07,780 I've been very wrapped up in Luna and Poppy and I just-- 221 00:14:07,846 --> 00:14:11,417 I haven't had a chance to talk to Katie. 222 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:12,718 I'll talk to her. 223 00:14:16,789 --> 00:14:18,958 >> Katie: I'm sure that you, Bill and Luna, have a lot 224 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:21,393 to make up for. >> Poppy: We do. 225 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:23,762 >> Katie: But you have to understand that for the sake of 226 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:26,999 my son, it's important that Bill and I discuss this. 227 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:28,434 It's a priority. >> Poppy: Yes, and-- 228 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:32,438 and I agree. It's important for Bill and you 229 00:14:32,504 --> 00:14:36,742 to discuss how to approach this with Will. 230 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:39,111 I just didn't want you to get your hopes up that it would 231 00:14:39,178 --> 00:14:42,915 happen today. >> Katie: Because Bill will be 232 00:14:42,982 --> 00:14:45,918 busy with you. >> Poppy: I am certain 233 00:14:45,985 --> 00:14:49,121 that Bill can't wait to be alone with Luna and me. 234 00:14:49,188 --> 00:14:51,290 And just like you said, we have a lot of time 235 00:14:51,357 --> 00:14:54,793 to make up for. And I'm really eager 236 00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:58,631 to do that. >> Katie: I imagine you are. 237 00:14:58,697 --> 00:15:06,205 ♪♪♪ 238 00:15:20,352 --> 00:15:22,755 >> Steffy: You wanna help Hope? >> Finn: Look, she's been 239 00:15:22,821 --> 00:15:25,924 stressed out lately. >> Steffy: And how 240 00:15:25,991 --> 00:15:27,626 do you know that? >> Finn: She's opened up to me 241 00:15:27,693 --> 00:15:30,929 a little bit. >> Steffy: What did she say? 242 00:15:30,996 --> 00:15:35,167 >> Finn: Well, basically everything you just said. 243 00:15:35,234 --> 00:15:38,470 You're right, she's-- she's been having a hard time. 244 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:42,608 And look, I'm-- I'm not gonna pretend to 245 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:45,744 even remotely understand the dynamics, but... 246 00:15:45,811 --> 00:15:47,846 the problems you have with each other, 247 00:15:47,913 --> 00:15:52,217 it didn't start with you two. All right, it was Brooke 248 00:15:52,284 --> 00:15:55,020 and Stephanie and then Brooke and your mom, and like... 249 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:57,423 Honey, the rivalry between your two families started before 250 00:15:57,489 --> 00:16:01,026 you guys were even born. I mean, who's next? 251 00:16:01,093 --> 00:16:03,829 Kelly and Beth? >> Steffy: What, no. 252 00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:06,498 >> Finn: Well, it could be. If we're not careful, I mean, 253 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:10,636 that's the cycle, right? That's why I'm lobbying for 254 00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:12,738 some peace and harmony between you two. 255 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:15,074 I mean... honey, we are one big, 256 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:18,777 extended family. And we have a lot to be 257 00:16:18,844 --> 00:16:20,579 grateful for. That's what we need 258 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:24,450 to focus on. And look, 259 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:26,452 you don't need to worry about Hope, okay? 260 00:16:26,518 --> 00:16:31,490 She is not influencing me. Okay? 261 00:16:31,557 --> 00:16:32,391 >> Steffy: Okay. ♪♪♪ 262 00:16:45,571 --> 00:16:47,573 >> Brooke: Finn has healing hands? 263 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:48,640 >> Hope: Well-- >> Brooke: How did 264 00:16:48,707 --> 00:16:52,010 you know that, Hope? >> Hope: He gave me a massage. 265 00:16:52,077 --> 00:16:54,246 >> Brooke: He what? >> Hope: Well, it was, you know, 266 00:16:54,313 --> 00:16:57,383 like temples, sinuses, like this little squishy thing 267 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:59,852 right here. It was, uh, pressure point 268 00:16:59,918 --> 00:17:02,788 therapy for my migraines. And it was like the minute 269 00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:05,858 his hands touched me, I felt such relief. 270 00:17:05,924 --> 00:17:10,295 I mean, it was amazing. >> Brooke: Oh, my God. 271 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:12,364 >> Hope: No, no, it's not like that, Mom. 272 00:17:12,431 --> 00:17:16,335 It's not like that, okay? We are just very good friends. 273 00:17:16,402 --> 00:17:19,238 And I-- I don't want to see him being controlled or bossed 274 00:17:19,304 --> 00:17:22,608 around by Steffy. I... 275 00:17:22,674 --> 00:17:25,611 I feel bad for him, Mom. >> Brooke: Their relationship 276 00:17:25,677 --> 00:17:28,447 is their business, okay? >> Hope: Okay, but should I just 277 00:17:28,514 --> 00:17:31,517 stand by as a friend is getting taken advantage of? 278 00:17:31,583 --> 00:17:34,186 I mean, he's being undervalued by the one person who is 279 00:17:34,253 --> 00:17:36,321 supposed to love him the most. And I... 280 00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:39,324 I'm not even sure Steffy really understands him. 281 00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:43,562 >> Brooke: And you do. >> Hope: You know, I-- 282 00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:46,265 I think I do. Finn trusts me. 283 00:17:46,331 --> 00:17:49,635 He confides in me. >> Brooke: He confides in you? 284 00:17:49,701 --> 00:17:52,037 >> Hope: Well, yeah. I mean, we have a lot 285 00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:57,075 in common. We're like... two kindred spirits. 286 00:17:57,142 --> 00:18:00,312 Especially now that my dad has married his mom. 287 00:18:00,379 --> 00:18:04,316 >> Brooke: Okay, listen. This is Steffy's husband 288 00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:06,452 you're talking about. >> Hope: I know. 289 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:08,554 I know and I'm not going after him, Mom. 290 00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:11,657 I'm not. He just... 291 00:18:11,723 --> 00:18:14,526 happens to be one of the best men I've ever met. 292 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:16,495 ♪♪♪ 293 00:18:33,011 --> 00:18:36,048 Captioned by Los Angeles Distribution and Broadcasting, Inc.