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911, what's your emergency?
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Hi. Uh, this is Deirdre
with Hancock County ODOT.
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- Mmm-hmm.
- And our guys are out mowing on 75...
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Mmm-hmm.
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...and came across
a weird-looking sleeping bag.
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And there's something in it
that's tied up.
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{\an8}The spot where they found
this sleeping bag,
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it's a row of pine trees
along Interstate 75.
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I walked up and picked the bag up
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and realized that
it was something heavy in the bag.
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The size of the bag,
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we thought maybe it was somebody's dog
that they had put in the bag.
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And then the only other
thought process that we had was,
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"What if it's a child in there?"
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We figured we better call patrol.
We didn't want to open it up.
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The Ohio State Trooper showed up.
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And then he opened the bag up
and looked in there.
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He did a double-take.
He's like, "I just... I gotta look again."
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And he's like,
"That's definitely a foot in there."
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The remains consisted of
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the lower portion of the body.
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I had attached legs and buttocks,
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but everything
from the umbilicus up was gone.
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It had been severed.
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The person that did this,
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what are they thinking
when they are separating
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a human body into pieces?
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What's going through their mind?
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Humans are capable of very... vile acts.
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This is where
my son David's funeral service was held.
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This auditorium was absolutely packed.
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{\an8}Standing room only.
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{\an8}Uh, people lining the walls, all...
all in the aisle way.
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It was really, really overwhelming
to see that many people.
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To think that David touched
that many people.
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What up, everybody?
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It's your boy Dave Carter
from Lavish Habits Unlimited.
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I have things I wanna accomplish today,
tomorrow, five years down the line,
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ten years down the line,
and I have confidence in myself.
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Once I accomplish my goals,
I move on to the next.
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David was 39 when he was killed.
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What up, son?
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He was a fun-loving person.
Serious but fun-loving.
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Tall, handsome, athletic.
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{\an8}David was my best friend.
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{\an8}David was the person I would call
for any advice.
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He took pride in everything that he did.
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David worked very, very hard.
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He had a full-time job
at a manufacturing plant,
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and on the side,
he started his own clothing line
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called Lavish Habits Unlimited.
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{\an8}When David and I met,
we were nine years old.
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{\an8}David was a best friend to me.
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He was someone that I could trust,
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but we definitely always kept it
a platonic relationship.
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We had a boundary there.
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David always, you know, wanted to
grow up and have a family, and be married.
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He was always a very stand-up guy.
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And once he became a father,
it upped a level.
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Everything was
geared around his son.
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He was a very involved father with DJ.
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{\an8}The relationship with me and my dad,
I'd say we were like best friends.
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{\an8}We were always doing something together.
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Our bond was just something
that you just couldn't break.
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{\an8}I knew I liked David
when I first seen him.
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{\an8}He was funny. He just made me laugh.
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We just started going out
and having a good time.
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I was 19.
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He must have just turned 20.
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When DJ was born,
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David was excited.
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I don't even think
he got a good look at DJ
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before he ran out in the hallway
just screaming, "I got a boy!"
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David and I were off and on
from 2000 to 2014,
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but we remained close
as co-parents for DJ.
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After that,
David had lots of female friends.
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Um...
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He definitely had his share
of relationships and girlfriends.
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Then in the middle of March 2018,
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David walked up with this young lady
that I had never seen before.
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He came up, he introduced her.
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"This is my friend Tammy."
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Tammy and David had went
to high school together.
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They reconnected
at a mutual friend's birthday party,
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which eventually turned
into a relationship.
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Tammy worked for
the Detroit Medical Center.
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Also Tammy was a travel agent,
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and she did tell me that she had twins.
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She had a son and a daughter
who were 18 at the time.
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{\an8} Tammy and I met in high school.
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{\an8}David, Tammy, and I
were all in the same graduating class.
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Her personality in high school
was very bubbly.
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At that time,
she was pretty solid as a friend.
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But after high school,
a lot of us, um, went our separate ways.
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Around March 2018, uh,
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I found out that David and Tammy
were dating, and it was a brow-raiser.
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But, you know, as friends,
we want the best for each other.
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And if David was happy,
you know, I was happy for him.
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They were spending a lot of time together,
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like being with her, like, every day.
As if you thought, like, "Okay."
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"Maybe this is probably the one that
my dad is going to be with and marry."
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I can say that David seemed happy.
I believe they had fun.
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I believe they had a good time within
the six months they had been together.
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But she was very obsessive over David.
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I don't try to get too involved
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with my children's affairs of the heart.
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But when we did have a gathering,
she would...
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watch David.
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You know,
if he was talking to somebody else...
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...she would keep an eye on him.
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Every day.
Every day we saw David, we saw Tammy.
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She wasn't far behind.
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I didn't care for Tammy
from the moment I met her.
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Everybody thought,
"Oh, you're the crazy little sister."
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You know, "You don't like nobody."
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And I'm like,
"Well, that very well may be,
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but I know I don't like her."
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{\an8} On September 30th,
it was just our average normal Sunday.
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DJ was preparing to go to his dad's house
for the evening.
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And then I got a text message
from David saying,
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"I don't feel good.
I'm not sure what's wrong."
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"And I don't think
that DJ should come over here tonight."
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I tried to text him myself.
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Got replies back from my dad,
saying he was sick, and, like, very sick
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to where, like,
he didn't want anybody around him.
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DJ said, "Well, I have some stuff
at my dad's apartment I need to get."
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And I said, "Okay."
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When I pulled up to my dad's house,
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I seen Tammy taking out the garbage.
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I say, you know, "Hey."
You know, whatever. She seen me.
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And she ran to the apartment door.
Like, ran.
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And when I got to my dad's house,
the door was locked.
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You'd have thought since she saw me,
she'd have left it unlocked.
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But I had a key.
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So I went in, and she came up to me first,
like, "Hey, DJ, what's going on?"
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So I asked her, "Hey, have you seen
my charger to my phone?"
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She said, "No. Haven't seen it."
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And I noticed my dad's bedroom door
was closed, which was odd.
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And then she closes
his bathroom door as well.
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Thought that was kind of weird.
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I say, "Since I'm at my dad's house,
let me just say 'What's up?' to him."
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You know, stuff like that. And, um...
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She's talking like, "Nah, he's not here.
He went out for a walk."
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Thought in my head,
like, "That's pretty weird. Who's..."
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You know, "He's sick. It's cold outside.
Who goes for a walk?"
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Um, didn't make any sense.
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But I have to make it
to my grandmother's house.
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And I just left.
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I've known David for 19 years.
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{\an8}We met at a plant working together
for ten, 12 hours a day,
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and we became real close.
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Last time I seen Dave was, uh,
that Thursday.
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We had to work Sunday, but Dave...
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Dave didn't come to work Sunday.
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That was just out of the ordinary for Dave
to miss double time.
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When Tuesday came around,
Dave hadn't been to work in three days.
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I was like, "No. Something ain't right."
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On Tuesday, I got a call.
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Roger said, "This is his third day
not coming to work."
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"So, can you go by his apartment
just to see if he is okay?"
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So I called his phone.
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Went straight to voice mail.
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Then I called Davis's girlfriend, Tammy.
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I said, "Hey, is David okay?"
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She said,
"I haven't talked to him since Sunday."
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So Derek, my husband, and I
went over to David's apartment.
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{\an8}We see David's car is in the parking lot.
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We get to the door, knock on the door.
Nobody's coming to the door.
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So, I went to grab the door handle,
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and you can open the door.
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So I start freaking out like,
"Why is it open?"
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"He always locked this apartment up."
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At that point,
I knew that something wasn't right.
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So I called my dad,
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and I called Samia, DJ's mom as well.
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Tasia said, "Dad, I got a phone call
from David's job."
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"One of his coworkers said that
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he hasn't been
to work in three or four days."
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And I'm like, "What?"
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We all got to the apartment.
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I was looking around, and I was thinking,
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"David would never leave
his apartment like this."
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Like, "He would never ball his sheets up
and just stick them in a closet."
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We get to David's room,
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and the bed isn't made.
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My brother is a neat freak.
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David would never leave
without making the bed.
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So I look under the bed.
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And there's a big, huge red stain,
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and I could tell that
the bed had been moved
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to cover the stain because it's carpet.
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And the indentation
from the bed sitting so long,
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you could tell that it had been moved.
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And I pulled up
the comforter off the bed,
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and that's when
I seen what appeared to be...
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blood.
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And at the top of the mattress,
there was a hole.
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I walked around.
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There was a hole in the bottom
left-hand corner of the closet door.
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Being a soldier,
I knew it was a bullet hole.
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I realized that,
"Okay. Something's wrong here."
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I told everybody, "Everybody out."
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We went to Melvindale Police
and filed a missing person's report.
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We're searching, calling hospitals.
I'm calling morgues.
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{\an8}This afternoon,
Michigan State Police investigators
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{\an8}were searching for clues
near Outer Drive and Allen Road.
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{\an8} Melvindale Police
taped off the apartment.
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{\an8}They had a front loader out there.
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{\an8}They were actively going
through the dumpster, you know,
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{\an8}checking garbage bags and stuff like that.
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{\an8}In the meantime,
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you know, we were just waiting
for a word from if anybody found him.
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And I got on Facebook.
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"If anybody's seen David,
y'all please let me know."
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{\an8}When David Carter didn't show up
for work earlier this week,
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{\an8}his family sounded the alarm.
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{\an8}Police department and the family
are looking for any help they can get
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{\an8}from anybody who knows him...
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{\an8} On that Tuesday night,
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after we saw the stain
and the bullet hole,
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I called Tammy and I said,
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"Tammy, I'm gonna ask you one more time.
Where is my brother?"
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And she said, "Tasia, I don't know
what you're talking about."
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"I haven't seen him since Sunday."
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And she showed no concern
as to me telling her that he was missing.
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I said, "Okay. If I find out
you had something to do with my brother
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and me not being able to find him,
we're gonna have a whole problem."
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Tammy was at work.
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She just went about her day
just like it was a normal day.
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She was on social media a few times.
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She basically
was just living her normal life.
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It was unbelievable to me
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for a person that had been with him
almost every day for six months
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for her not to leave work,
and show up with us, and help find David.
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She was nowhere to be found.
You're his girlfriend.
236
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You don't seem to be
as worried as everybody else.
237
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{\an8}An ODOT employee discovered
a sleeping bag along the side of I-75...
238
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The Hancock County coroner
239
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has ruled the human remains
found on I-75 a homicide.
240
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They suspect the victim
241
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might have been
on the side of the highway for a few days.
242
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Investigators are reviewing
missing person reports.
243
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Grass mowers from ODOT,
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Ohio Department of Transportation,
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had found a sleeping bag in the weeds
246
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{\an8}by the berm of the road off of I-75.
247
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Inside the sleeping bag
248
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was the dismembered
lower half of the body.
249
00:17:39,101 --> 00:17:42,729
All I had was a lower torso and legs.
250
00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:48,151
It looked to me like this male
251
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was either Black or biracial.
252
00:17:53,824 --> 00:17:56,701
His inseam measured 36 inches.
253
00:17:57,369 --> 00:17:59,079
That's a pretty tall person.
254
00:18:01,832 --> 00:18:03,208
During the autopsy,
255
00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:09,798
we found a very characteristic tattoo
on the left upper leg.
256
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It was a tattoo of a pit bull
with red eyes.
257
00:18:15,345 --> 00:18:16,680
That's unusual.
258
00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:22,602
So we sent that photograph
up to Melvindale, Michigan,
259
00:18:22,686 --> 00:18:25,730
which is where there was a missing person.
260
00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:41,288
The Chief of Police of Melvindale
called me and asked me to come down
261
00:18:41,997 --> 00:18:44,457
because he had some questions to ask me.
262
00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:50,881
It was a tattoo that he was
very, very interested in.
263
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:55,677
I told him he had
the tattoo of a pit bull on his leg.
264
00:18:56,845 --> 00:19:00,599
And I asked the chief, I said,
265
00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:02,934
"You found him?" And he said, "Yeah."
266
00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,233
{\an8}For me, being a soldier,
267
00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:13,862
{\an8}death is something that's part of life.
268
00:19:14,738 --> 00:19:15,906
It's inevitable.
269
00:19:16,615 --> 00:19:17,616
It's just I...
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never thought it would happen
to a family member in this manner.
271
00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:29,044
Tough. Tough.
272
00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:31,713
Really, really tough.
273
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:42,265
I assisted Mr. Carter
over to the police department.
274
00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:44,184
I'll never forget.
275
00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,063
It was just so... so many emotions.
276
00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:53,485
So I'm driving back
from the police station.
277
00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:57,572
I don't wanna see Tasia's face.
278
00:20:00,408 --> 00:20:04,788
My husband's driving, and he pulls up,
and I see it all over his face.
279
00:20:04,788 --> 00:20:07,999
You know, I see it, like,
all over his face,
280
00:20:08,083 --> 00:20:12,045
and he gets out, and he just grabbed me,
and he just said, "Boo, he gone."
281
00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:17,342
I had no... words.
282
00:20:17,342 --> 00:20:20,053
Like, I really felt like
I had been gut-punched.
283
00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:25,767
My concern was, um... his mother.
284
00:20:27,477 --> 00:20:30,397
All of the things that I've been through,
I've done, that's nothing.
285
00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:32,941
I can't think of anything that...
286
00:20:33,817 --> 00:20:38,196
was harder than telling her
that it was our son.
287
00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:42,492
She just broke down.
288
00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:46,788
It was like everything drained out of her.
289
00:20:48,623 --> 00:20:49,916
Nothing I could do...
290
00:20:52,127 --> 00:20:53,128
but hold her.
291
00:20:53,712 --> 00:20:55,130
That's, uh...
292
00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:58,299
That's all I could do.
293
00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,808
I asked my uncle, like,
"What happened?"
294
00:21:06,808 --> 00:21:10,061
You know, 'cause I wanted to know.
He wouldn't tell me at first.
295
00:21:10,145 --> 00:21:11,563
I'm like, "What happened?"
296
00:21:11,563 --> 00:21:14,274
"You have to tell me. It's my dad."
You know?
297
00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:15,734
And, um...
298
00:21:17,652 --> 00:21:20,864
He said, "Yeah, they found your dad, but...
299
00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:24,242
they found him chopped up."
300
00:21:24,326 --> 00:21:25,785
"His body parts chopped up."
301
00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:32,459
I just walked away
and did not want to look at nobody.
302
00:21:33,418 --> 00:21:35,754
I'm literally, like,
on the side of the car,
303
00:21:35,754 --> 00:21:39,174
slouched down, sitting on the grass,
304
00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:42,761
crying, full of anger and sadness.
305
00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:49,601
My father was a person that I looked up to
ever since I was born.
306
00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,527
I had never felt so numb.
307
00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:04,783
The friend and the sister in me...
308
00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:08,370
wanted to get to the bottom of it.
309
00:22:12,749 --> 00:22:14,167
Who did this to you?
310
00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:21,007
I'm pointing all my arrows at Tammy
311
00:22:21,091 --> 00:22:23,718
because,
"You're the last person that saw him."
312
00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:31,434
I'm like, "Okay."
313
00:22:32,644 --> 00:22:36,856
"Tammy is the key.
She knows what happened."
314
00:22:41,611 --> 00:22:47,200
A few weeks before David
was murdered, he asked my female cousin,
315
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,868
"Hey, you wanna go to the movies?"
316
00:22:48,952 --> 00:22:51,996
So they went to see the movie.
My cousin drove.
317
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:56,376
When they returned
back to David's apartment,
318
00:22:56,376 --> 00:22:58,545
all four of David's tires were slashed.
319
00:22:59,295 --> 00:23:01,923
David was like, "Oh, my God."
320
00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:06,719
I believe that he knew then
that Tammy had did it,
321
00:23:06,803 --> 00:23:08,513
that Tammy had slashed his tires,
322
00:23:09,973 --> 00:23:13,476
because she must have been mad
that he took my cousin to the movies
323
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,062
and didn't take her to the movies.
324
00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:20,442
Like, who... who does that?
325
00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:23,236
Angry female. That's how I chalked it up.
326
00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:27,365
"Okay. She's mad.
She's that type of person."
327
00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:29,951
When a person is jealous,
328
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,371
and when a person is selfish,
329
00:23:34,998 --> 00:23:36,458
there is no measure
330
00:23:37,876 --> 00:23:39,294
for what they'll do.
331
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:47,844
{\an8} On the Friday night
before David disappeared,
332
00:23:47,844 --> 00:23:50,430
{\an8}the whole family
was at DJ's football game.
333
00:23:53,141 --> 00:23:55,602
That was the last time I saw David
334
00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:58,813
and the last time his sister saw him.
335
00:23:58,897 --> 00:24:00,607
Last time his son saw him.
336
00:24:03,401 --> 00:24:07,822
David and Tammy were already at
the game when me and my husband arrived.
337
00:24:08,406 --> 00:24:10,408
David was watching the game.
338
00:24:10,408 --> 00:24:13,036
Oh! Yeah! Good hit!
339
00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:17,040
David was laughing and joking with us
340
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,918
and hollering at the game
at the same time.
341
00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:24,631
We were throwing popcorn
and just having a good time at that game.
342
00:24:25,131 --> 00:24:28,134
David and Tammy had came
to the game together,
343
00:24:28,218 --> 00:24:29,886
but weren't together at the game.
344
00:24:30,887 --> 00:24:32,722
I asked my brother,
"Are y'all okay?"
345
00:24:32,722 --> 00:24:33,973
"Why's she not coming down?"
346
00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:36,226
He was like, "She'll be all right."
347
00:24:36,226 --> 00:24:39,687
I just thought maybe they got
into an argument. They wasn't talking.
348
00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:44,859
I took a moment
and gazed around the stands,
349
00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:49,864
and Tammy was looking dead in my face,
350
00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:53,159
like, straightaway in my face, and...
351
00:24:54,911 --> 00:24:56,913
it just looked like I had saw the devil.
352
00:24:56,913 --> 00:25:01,709
It stuck with me to this day.
I can still see the look on her face.
353
00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:07,131
I believe my brother David
broke it off with Tammy.
354
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:10,260
I believe that night
after the football game,
355
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:14,430
whatever they were going through,
that that was the last straw for him.
356
00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:17,100
And he was just like, "You know what?
I can't do this anymore."
357
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,559
And she couldn't take it.
358
00:25:19,602 --> 00:25:23,356
I believe she was jealous
of David's relationship with everyone,
359
00:25:23,898 --> 00:25:27,652
with me, with his son,
you know, with our parents.
360
00:25:27,652 --> 00:25:32,073
I believe she was just ultimately
jealous of anybody he had contact with.
361
00:25:32,657 --> 00:25:37,328
But I never, never thought
Tammy would be capable of murder.
362
00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:39,163
Never.
363
00:25:41,249 --> 00:25:44,419
I think he was
trying to figure out how to leave.
364
00:25:45,795 --> 00:25:48,339
It was taking him time
to totally pull away,
365
00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:51,384
but that's 'cause she was so...
so possessive.
366
00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:58,057
She knew that Dave wanted to break up,
and it sparked a madness about her
367
00:25:58,141 --> 00:26:02,604
that's just, "If I can't have him,
can't nobody else have him."
368
00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:10,403
I told the police
to look into Tammy,
369
00:26:10,403 --> 00:26:14,657
but the police didn't tell us anything
about what they were doing
370
00:26:14,741 --> 00:26:16,159
or what they had found.
371
00:26:28,338 --> 00:26:32,050
A few days after we got the news
about David,
372
00:26:32,050 --> 00:26:34,427
my nephew had his football game.
373
00:26:37,347 --> 00:26:40,892
Head coach asked me,
"Do you need time away from football?"
374
00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:44,687
I told him, I said, "No, because...
375
00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:46,397
I'm not walking away from that."
376
00:26:46,481 --> 00:26:49,859
"That's not something that my father
would want me to do."
377
00:26:51,861 --> 00:26:54,739
The night of the game, it was rocking.
378
00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:57,367
Everyone showed me love.
379
00:26:57,367 --> 00:27:01,287
Family and friends, they all
sat next to each other in the stands.
380
00:27:01,371 --> 00:27:04,290
It's like...
It's like the whole stands were family.
381
00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:10,755
There's a quote
that my dad taught me, it was,
382
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:15,176
"Whatever happens,
just keep on going no matter what."
383
00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:19,639
So before that game,
I told myself that, "I'm going to play."
384
00:27:19,639 --> 00:27:21,349
"I'm gonna play for him."
385
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:27,063
It's so crazy to say that...
it wasn't me playing.
386
00:27:27,063 --> 00:27:28,147
Um...
387
00:27:28,231 --> 00:27:33,403
I really felt like
it was him in me that was doing moves
388
00:27:33,403 --> 00:27:36,406
that I didn't really knew
that I had in me, you know?
389
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:51,963
During DJ's football game,
my dad called me.
390
00:27:51,963 --> 00:27:55,425
And my dad said, "Well, you know,
I need to tell you something."`
391
00:27:55,425 --> 00:27:59,053
And he was like, "They got her."
And I'm like, "They got who?"
392
00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:02,390
And he was like, "They arrested Tammy."
393
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:16,738
To find out that
Tammy was arrested that night,
394
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,239
it lifted everyone up.
395
00:28:18,239 --> 00:28:20,283
Like, it brought joy.
396
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:25,705
We just couldn't believe it.
Like, "Oh, my God! They got her."
397
00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:27,415
"We got some justice."
398
00:28:27,415 --> 00:28:30,084
Everybody's full of tears and just happy.
399
00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:36,924
A couple days later,
she was released.
400
00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:47,643
The person of interest taken
into custody on Friday has been released.
401
00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:51,647
That according to Melvindale Police,
confirming that information late tonight.
402
00:28:51,731 --> 00:28:54,150
Their investigation is still ongoing.
403
00:28:54,859 --> 00:28:58,112
Tammy Williams was
brought to Melvindale PD for questioning.
404
00:28:58,196 --> 00:29:00,072
There were some interviews conducted.
405
00:29:00,865 --> 00:29:04,786
{\an8}She was released
pending more investigation.
406
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,041
I'm limited on what I can discuss
407
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:13,211
because I don't want it
to hinder our investigation.
408
00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:17,256
But what I can tell you is that
409
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:20,968
they didn't have enough at that time
to hold her and charge her with a crime.
410
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:26,933
Having to let her go, to me,
411
00:29:28,017 --> 00:29:30,186
I mean, that was
like a kick in the stomach.
412
00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:34,023
They can only hold her
for 72 hours.
413
00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:37,443
They have to locate
the rest of his remains
414
00:29:37,527 --> 00:29:39,403
because they need a cause of death.
415
00:29:44,659 --> 00:29:48,287
{\an8}New developments tonight
in the murder of a Melvindale father.
416
00:29:48,371 --> 00:29:52,291
{\an8}More of his remains were
discovered along I-75 south of Findlay.
417
00:29:54,043 --> 00:29:59,882
They had found another body part
off of the same Interstate 75
418
00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:01,801
that the first set was found.
419
00:30:03,261 --> 00:30:08,140
They proceeded to send the second set
up to us,
420
00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:13,354
{\an8}which was in a little black duffel bag
with red straps.
421
00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:18,234
{\an8}And in the bag, uh,
there was a human head.
422
00:30:20,111 --> 00:30:24,740
{\an8}It was wrapped in the small grocery bags
with the handles.
423
00:30:27,493 --> 00:30:30,788
{\an8}And one of the grocery bags
was tied under his chin.
424
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:42,341
{\an8}We got the third call that they had found
the rest of the remains
425
00:30:42,842 --> 00:30:45,678
in a little multicolored suitcase.
426
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,805
Big, bright flowers on it.
427
00:30:48,306 --> 00:30:51,809
And inside the suitcase,
there was a comforter.
428
00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:57,690
And inside the comforter,
there was the third set of remains.
429
00:30:58,566 --> 00:31:04,363
It had upper torso, two arms,
two hands, all the fingers.
430
00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:06,616
You could put the whole body together now.
431
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,621
He had a gunshot wound right here
432
00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:16,459
{\an8}below the earlobe
and sort of toward the back.
433
00:31:17,501 --> 00:31:21,380
{\an8}The wound went this way.
434
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:24,717
Exit was at the top of the head.
435
00:31:24,717 --> 00:31:27,219
He had a single gunshot wound.
436
00:31:27,303 --> 00:31:31,766
Very close range. Almost near contact.
437
00:31:32,683 --> 00:31:34,393
Now I had a cause of death.
438
00:31:37,063 --> 00:31:40,483
There was no evidence of defense wounds,
439
00:31:40,483 --> 00:31:42,318
no evidence of a struggle,
440
00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:46,572
no other evidence of injury anywhere.
441
00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:52,578
You have a tall man, 190 pounds,
and he puts up no fight?
442
00:31:52,662 --> 00:31:54,497
Did he not see the gun coming?
443
00:31:54,997 --> 00:31:56,165
Was he asleep?
444
00:31:56,749 --> 00:31:59,001
Was he incapacitated somehow?
445
00:31:59,085 --> 00:32:00,795
I don't know.
446
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:03,673
Interestingly enough,
447
00:32:03,673 --> 00:32:06,759
he had an antihistamine
in his bloodstream.
448
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:09,011
That makes you sleepy.
449
00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:12,098
I believe, for him, it was a quick death.
450
00:32:18,396 --> 00:32:21,565
I think that on September 29th,
451
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:23,818
my brother went to bed.
452
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:27,863
Tammy had an extra key
to my brother's apartment,
453
00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:31,367
and I believe that she
went in while my brother was asleep...
454
00:32:33,911 --> 00:32:35,496
and shot him in the head.
455
00:32:36,831 --> 00:32:40,084
There were texts
sent from his phone
456
00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:43,587
to make people think
that it was him texting,
457
00:32:43,671 --> 00:32:45,089
but it was her.
458
00:32:45,756 --> 00:32:47,425
I assumed the texts...
459
00:32:47,425 --> 00:32:50,261
In the beginning,
I assumed they were from him,
460
00:32:50,261 --> 00:32:53,723
because I wouldn't have any other reason
to think that they weren't.
461
00:32:54,515 --> 00:32:58,060
But when I went back
and really read the text,
462
00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:00,604
how the text was worded,
463
00:33:00,688 --> 00:33:04,358
it wasn't how he would have
worded that text.
464
00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:08,696
After he died,
465
00:33:09,363 --> 00:33:13,284
I think the person
responsible for the death
466
00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:15,161
was faced with a huge problem.
467
00:33:15,661 --> 00:33:20,583
"How do I get rid
of a 190-pound, 6'4" man?"
468
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:23,836
"I can't carry him down the stairs."
469
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,717
The lower part of the remains alone
weighed 73 pounds.
470
00:33:31,135 --> 00:33:37,558
I think the dismemberment, in this case,
was more logistical to move the body.
471
00:33:39,018 --> 00:33:42,855
He had been separated by cuts.
472
00:33:43,439 --> 00:33:45,316
Nothing like a saw.
473
00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:48,736
These were, in my opinion,
474
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:53,115
probably nothing more
than your average kitchen knife.
475
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:57,077
But it took some time.
476
00:33:58,329 --> 00:34:03,292
You cannot separate a body
into three parts
477
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:07,838
in a very short period of time
with instruments like this.
478
00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:16,639
The fact that she could not only
shoot her boyfriend in the head,
479
00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:20,101
but cut up his body,
480
00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:25,815
purchase the items that his body
was ultimately found in,
481
00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:31,112
and then drive to scatter them along I-75...
482
00:34:34,365 --> 00:34:36,951
and then wake up and go to work
for the rest of the week?
483
00:34:36,951 --> 00:34:40,871
That tells me that she's a psychopath.
484
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:47,294
We're just waiting on word
for them to go pick up Tammy.
485
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,550
We have the memorial October 27.
486
00:34:53,843 --> 00:34:56,804
Thanksgiving comes. Christmas comes.
487
00:34:57,304 --> 00:35:02,643
And it wasn't until January 2019
488
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:08,607
that we found out that October 2018
Tammy had fled Michigan.
489
00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:14,989
Williams has been
on the run since October.
490
00:35:14,989 --> 00:35:16,282
Tamera Renee Williams,
491
00:35:16,282 --> 00:35:20,411
and police say she murdered and
dismembered her boyfriend in Melvindale.
492
00:35:20,411 --> 00:35:24,915
{\an8} Tamera, if you're out there,
turn yourself in, baby.
493
00:35:25,541 --> 00:35:26,792
Can't keep running.
494
00:35:27,543 --> 00:35:32,047
{\an8}And now a hunt is on so intense
they've brought on the US Marshals.
495
00:35:33,674 --> 00:35:36,719
{\an8}US Marshals get cases assigned to us
496
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,431
{\an8}basically for people
committing heinous and serious crimes
497
00:35:40,431 --> 00:35:42,850
and that are usually on the run
for that crime.
498
00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:45,477
And we go out and locate them
and bring them to justice.
499
00:35:47,146 --> 00:35:50,608
This case was extremely brutal
because of the nature of it.
500
00:35:50,608 --> 00:35:54,153
This person was found in multiple pieces,
501
00:35:54,153 --> 00:35:57,406
and it takes a special individual
to do that to somebody.
502
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,702
This was calculated. This was planned.
503
00:36:01,702 --> 00:36:04,955
This was thought out.
504
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,709
Tammy is accused with homicide,
505
00:36:09,752 --> 00:36:13,714
dismemberment, tampering with evidence,
and felony firearm.
506
00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:16,967
We're talking
about a dangerous woman.
507
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,720
The weapon that was used
has not been recovered.
508
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,139
So she's probably armed and dangerous.
509
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:28,354
I learned quite a bit about Tammy Williams
during my investigation.
510
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:34,902
On October 16th, 2018,
she was seen in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
511
00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:36,904
According to credit card receipts,
512
00:36:36,904 --> 00:36:40,157
made a couple of cash withdrawals
from an ATM.
513
00:36:40,783 --> 00:36:41,951
Had dinner.
514
00:36:41,951 --> 00:36:45,246
I can tell you we have her on camera
at the restaurant.
515
00:36:45,746 --> 00:36:48,666
And then after her meal,
she sat there for quite some time,
516
00:36:48,666 --> 00:36:50,793
and had some drinks, and everything.
517
00:36:50,793 --> 00:36:54,880
She went outside, loaded on a rickshaw,
518
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,926
and had the rickshaw
take her back to a hotel.
519
00:36:59,468 --> 00:37:02,930
She then woke up the next morning,
the morning of the 17th,
520
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:05,349
went to the train station in Ann Arbor.
521
00:37:07,101 --> 00:37:10,312
Took an Amtrak train
from Ann Arbor to Chicago,
522
00:37:12,022 --> 00:37:14,984
loads on a train there
to Penn Station, New York,
523
00:37:16,527 --> 00:37:19,780
and checks into a hotel
called the Neptune Hotel.
524
00:37:20,781 --> 00:37:23,284
Nobody's looking for Tammy at this point.
525
00:37:24,827 --> 00:37:26,453
When she checked into the hotel,
526
00:37:26,537 --> 00:37:29,415
she checked in
in her name with her driver's license,
527
00:37:29,415 --> 00:37:30,874
stayed the night there,
528
00:37:31,959 --> 00:37:35,587
and got up the next morning, October 18th.
529
00:37:35,671 --> 00:37:39,758
She was seen on camera leaving the hotel,
530
00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:42,177
and that's the last time she was seen.
531
00:37:44,179 --> 00:37:49,727
Tammy Williams is a Black female, 5'5",
approximately 180 to 200 pounds.
532
00:37:49,727 --> 00:37:51,353
She's currently 42 years old.
533
00:37:51,937 --> 00:37:55,149
On Facebook and on Instagram,
534
00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:58,527
Tammy was always, like,
the master of disguise.
535
00:37:58,527 --> 00:38:01,447
One day she had long hair.
One day she had short hair.
536
00:38:01,447 --> 00:38:05,117
One day it was blond.
One day it was brunette.
537
00:38:05,117 --> 00:38:07,411
She could have short braids.
538
00:38:07,411 --> 00:38:09,163
She could be wearing wigs.
539
00:38:09,663 --> 00:38:12,041
The one thing that's common on her, though,
540
00:38:12,041 --> 00:38:16,253
is she has a huge rose tattoo
on her left shoulder
541
00:38:16,337 --> 00:38:20,174
that basically goes from the elbow
all the way up over the shoulder.
542
00:38:20,174 --> 00:38:22,551
That rose bouquet is gonna stand out.
543
00:38:22,551 --> 00:38:23,886
It's very distinctive,
544
00:38:23,886 --> 00:38:28,849
and it'd be pretty difficult to miss,
cover up, or remove.
545
00:38:30,351 --> 00:38:32,686
But on top of that,
let's just say hypothetically,
546
00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:34,229
she got it covered.
547
00:38:34,313 --> 00:38:36,982
That means there's a tattoo artist
out there somewhere
548
00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:39,401
that covered that bunch of roses.
549
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:46,825
If Tammy was working a job right now...
She was a travel agent.
550
00:38:46,909 --> 00:38:48,869
She could have booked your trip
to wherever.
551
00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:51,455
She could be working at a hospital.
552
00:38:51,455 --> 00:38:53,749
She could have taken your blood yesterday.
553
00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:56,377
Let's be honest.
She's not afraid of blood.
554
00:38:58,128 --> 00:39:02,966
It's been a while since
I've spoke to any members of her family,
555
00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:07,471
but every time I have, it's,
"No idea. Haven't heard from her."
556
00:39:07,471 --> 00:39:08,972
"Haven't talked to her."
557
00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,974
And I personally don't believe that.
558
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,270
Somebody is helping her financially
559
00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:19,942
and also providing her with a roof,
a place to stay.
560
00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:22,528
She just did not disappear.
561
00:39:23,529 --> 00:39:26,949
Throughout my interviews
with many different people,
562
00:39:26,949 --> 00:39:28,033
they've all said,
563
00:39:28,117 --> 00:39:31,995
"She's always been one of those girls
that needs to have a guy in her life."
564
00:39:32,913 --> 00:39:34,706
And that scares me
565
00:39:35,249 --> 00:39:40,379
that this woman is still free
after committing this crime,
566
00:39:40,379 --> 00:39:42,756
and she could hurt somebody else.
567
00:39:45,342 --> 00:39:47,553
I've thought about that
plenty of times,
568
00:39:47,553 --> 00:39:50,347
of going to my dad's bedroom
that Sunday night.
569
00:39:52,141 --> 00:39:53,600
Maybe I should've went in there,
570
00:39:53,684 --> 00:39:58,897
but maybe it was probably a good decision
to not go in there, because...
571
00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:02,860
I don't know, something in me
was just saying, "Don't go in there."
572
00:40:05,654 --> 00:40:09,741
Something probably could've happened to me
if I had went in my dad's room.
573
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,124
{\an8}The hunt is on
as the US Marshals put all hands on deck
574
00:40:17,124 --> 00:40:19,209
in this worldwide fugitive hunt.
575
00:40:19,293 --> 00:40:22,629
Tammy could be
in a new relationship at this point.
576
00:40:22,713 --> 00:40:25,507
Maybe she's dating another guy.
You know, he could be at risk.
577
00:40:25,591 --> 00:40:27,509
Family members
of the young father
578
00:40:27,593 --> 00:40:30,762
are still praying Tamera will be found
to face charges.
579
00:40:48,197 --> 00:40:50,491
At my son David's funeral,
580
00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:53,660
many people spoke about him.
581
00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:56,455
It was really touching.
582
00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,167
Life stay's full of happiness,
583
00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:02,002
and sometimes life is full of shit.
584
00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:03,921
Yes, it is. Uh-huh.
585
00:41:04,421 --> 00:41:07,799
And everybody was talking
about David, and how they knew him,
586
00:41:07,883 --> 00:41:12,221
and giving my wife Marie and I
587
00:41:12,221 --> 00:41:15,641
their condolences, and hugging us.
588
00:41:19,478 --> 00:41:22,356
Marie, she... Oh, wow.
589
00:41:23,023 --> 00:41:25,442
...quite naturally
cried through the whole thing.
590
00:41:25,442 --> 00:41:27,236
And I felt helpless...
591
00:41:29,154 --> 00:41:30,781
trying to console her.
592
00:41:32,491 --> 00:41:35,077
I always say,
"Tammy didn't just kill my brother."
593
00:41:35,077 --> 00:41:36,495
She killed my mother too,
594
00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:40,040
because our mother
was diagnosed with cancer
595
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,126
six days prior to Tammy murdering David.
596
00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:48,006
She was so heartbroken
after he was murdered,
597
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:51,885
so she stopped going
to her cancer treatment,
598
00:41:51,969 --> 00:41:53,845
and my mom passed away.
599
00:41:58,767 --> 00:42:00,227
There is not a day
600
00:42:01,645 --> 00:42:04,273
that goes by that I do not think of David.
601
00:42:05,983 --> 00:42:07,234
I look at DJ.
602
00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:12,322
I start thinking about all the things
that he's accomplished,
603
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:15,492
all the things that he's doing, and I say,
604
00:42:16,243 --> 00:42:18,912
"Man, if his dad was here,
he'd be so proud."
605
00:42:19,788 --> 00:42:21,206
As of right now,
606
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:24,960
I'm at Eastern Michigan University
playing football,
607
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,337
and I'm majoring in business management.
608
00:42:28,005 --> 00:42:30,924
I've taken over
my dad's clothing business.
609
00:42:33,677 --> 00:42:35,137
I'm doing okay...
610
00:42:36,805 --> 00:42:40,809
but there are thoughts that get to my head
611
00:42:40,809 --> 00:42:43,603
that almost make me
want to break down sometimes.
612
00:42:43,687 --> 00:42:44,813
Like, "Wow."
613
00:42:45,647 --> 00:42:47,482
"I don't have a father no more."
614
00:42:51,486 --> 00:42:53,905
If I had a few minutes
with my dad right now,
615
00:42:54,823 --> 00:42:57,451
I would ask him,
"Is he proud of me of where I'm at?"
616
00:42:57,951 --> 00:43:01,663
And I'd tell him that I love him for sure,
and I miss him.
617
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,087
When David left us,
it was like a black hole.
618
00:43:09,171 --> 00:43:12,257
Like nothing or no one
has been able to fill it.
619
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:17,471
You never know how much light
somebody brings into a room
620
00:43:17,471 --> 00:43:19,222
until it's no longer there.
621
00:43:19,723 --> 00:43:21,183
So it's been dark.
622
00:43:21,183 --> 00:43:24,144
♪ How old are you... ♪
623
00:43:25,312 --> 00:43:29,316
I miss the jokes and the laughs.
624
00:43:29,316 --> 00:43:32,819
I miss our talks,
our fights.
625
00:43:34,071 --> 00:43:36,698
I just miss him.
I miss everything about him.
626
00:43:40,452 --> 00:43:44,915
I have faith that somehow, some way,
somebody's gonna see Tammy,
627
00:43:44,915 --> 00:43:46,583
and she's gonna be caught.
628
00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:50,337
It's not gonna bring David back,
629
00:43:50,921 --> 00:43:54,299
but it will at least allow us to
630
00:43:54,383 --> 00:43:56,718
let him rest in peace.
631
00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:14,820
I'm Buffalo Jim.
It's another Friday night, brother.
632
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:17,030
Somebody
decided to get rid of Buffalo.
633
00:44:17,114 --> 00:44:20,283
This is the room
my father was found dead in.
634
00:44:20,367 --> 00:44:23,495
They got him
into a vulnerable situation.
635
00:44:24,329 --> 00:44:25,706
We thought it was a setup.
636
00:44:26,248 --> 00:44:28,750
You never know what's gonna happen.
637
00:44:30,127 --> 00:44:31,837
Do you believe in Bigfoot?
638
00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:34,548
Do you believe in UFOs?
639
00:44:34,548 --> 00:44:37,342
I was like, "Wow!"
640
00:44:38,343 --> 00:44:39,302
Hey, Josh.
641
00:44:39,386 --> 00:44:41,596
For them to say,
"Josh just got up,
642
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,141
and said he was going to the bathroom,
and never came back."
643
00:44:44,141 --> 00:44:45,600
It doesn't make any sense to me.
644
00:44:45,684 --> 00:44:47,519
There's more to it
than what they're saying.
645
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,981
I think Josh had secrets
just like everybody else has secrets.
646
00:44:50,981 --> 00:44:54,443
I wish that whoever knew those secrets
would come forward.