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911. For what town or city?
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- Uh, Calgary, Alberta.
- Ambulance, police, or fire?
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Oh my God, all.
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Okay, tell me
exactly what happened.
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I don't know. I just came home,
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and I found my wife downstairs,
and there's blood everywhere.
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- Oh my God.
- Are you with her now?
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I don't know.
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Is she awake?
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I don't know.
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Is she breathing?
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Oh my God.
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Is she breathing?
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Hold on one second.
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There's so much blood.
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Honey.
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No, she's cold!
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Oh no.
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I'm sending help.
I'm sending someone to assist you.
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Oh my God!
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{\an8}
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Calgary Police.
What's the address?
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It's EMS.
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Can you attend with us, please,
for an out-of-hospital death?
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Uh, caller states, uh, patient is cold.
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Not awake, not breathing,
blood everywhere.
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- What's the name?
- Last name, Antoni.
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First name, Amanda.
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{\an8}The Calgary Police Service
first learned of Amanda's death
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{\an8}through a 911 call that was placed
by her husband, Lee Antoni.
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{\an8}Lee and Amanda lived
in the community of Castleridge,
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{\an8}which was in northeast Calgary in Canada.
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237, priority 2.
EMS is on the scene
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saying they're gonna be
with a hysterical bystander.
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Looks like the husband was calling
this in. It's gonna be very frantic.
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There's also a fairly large
dog in the backyard, just so you're aware.
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Copy, thanks.
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{\an8}I was the district sergeant that day,
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{\an8}which means I was the patrol supervisor.
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{\an8}So I was in command of all
the patrol officers working in this area.
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And it turned out
that I wasn't actually all that far away,
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so I was the first police officer
on scene.
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When I arrived on scene,
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there was a male,
who became known to me as Lee,
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near the front porch.
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As I got near the… the front door,
I could see that Lee was shaking.
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He was visibly upset.
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And pretty much all I could get out of him
was, "She's in the basement."
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So I made my way to the stairwell.
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I looked down the stairs.
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One thing that stood out to me,
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what appeared to be a piggy bank
that was partially broken.
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That stuck in my mind.
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And at that point,
I started making my way down the stairs.
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As I came into the basement,
what really took me aback
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was the amount of blood on the floor.
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I could see Amanda lying on the floor.
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I didn't take a close inspection,
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but she appeared to have suffered
quite a significant head injury.
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She definitely appeared
to have been struck by something
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that caused a significant injury
to the right portion of her face
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and her skull at where…
where her eye meets her hairline.
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I made my way back up the stairs
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and joined the backup units
to clear the house,
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and I made instruction
for the next responding officer
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to stay with the husband.
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I wasn't sure what had happened
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or what his involvement
would have been at that point.
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This was the bloodiest scene
I'd ever walked in on.
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Quite frankly, it was gruesome.
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{\an8}Good afternoon.
Police continue to investigate
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{\an8}a suspicious death
in the city's northeast.
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{\an8}No one is in custody,
though police are questioning the man
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{\an8}that originally called police
to the scene.
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{\an8}It's what they found inside the home
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{\an8}that makes them believe
the death is suspicious.
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At the beginning of any
new investigation, a war room is set up,
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an operational center
where information will kind of flow in,
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and we go through a process
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of understanding
and interpreting the scene,
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in… in an effort to determine
what happened to Amanda.
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Amanda Antoni was a 31-year-old female,
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found lying deceased
on Monday, October 26th, 2015.
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When the medical response
and the police officers arrived,
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they had found
that she was in full rigor mortis
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on a basement floor
inside of her residence,
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which potentially would suggest
that she died sometime on Sunday.
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There's no signs, uh,
that there was a robbery that occurred,
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or this was motivated by robbery,
or that there had been a break and enter,
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or that there were any items
removed or missing from the home.
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A chair had been found tipped over,
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and we learned
that when Lee went into the home,
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he found Amanda's phone
lying on the floor in the dining room.
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The phone had been broken,
and the screen had been cracked.
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The phone and the tipped-over chair
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indicated that there had been
some sort of a struggle,
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some sort of a violent altercation
that had occurred inside the home.
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In Amanda's case,
we certainly know at this point
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that her death is not natural.
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We also know at this point
that there's no indication
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that it's suicide.
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It was quite obvious
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that something really violent
had occurred in that basement.
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{\an8}She was covered in blood.
Her clothes were covered in blood.
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{\an8}There was blood on the walls.
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{\an8}She had bruises in a lot of places,
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{\an8}and it looked like she had been beaten.
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Wasn't a doubt that it was a homicide.
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Another thing that was significant
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was that there appeared to be a weapon
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that had been left at the scene
by an offender.
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A ceramic piggy bank on the ledge
leading down into the stairs.
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The front of it was, uh, sheared off.
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You could see many pieces
of the broken face of that piggy bank,
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you know, strewn along down the stairs.
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Pieces of the ceramic
from that piggy bank
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were left embedded in,
uh, Amanda's forehead.
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I believed it was a weapon
that had been used, uh, by an offender
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to cause those injuries.
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The other piece that bothered me
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was the fact
that she was partially clothed,
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and that the pants had been pulled down
just about past the buttocks.
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The way she had been found,
um, on the floor itself,
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it appeared like she had been
the victim of a sexual assault,
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and in the course of that sexual assault
was murdered.
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I was home alone,
and Lee called.
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He just said, "Amanda's dead."
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{\an8}And… it went from there.
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{\an8}I had just pulled into my driveway,
and my phone rings, and it's Mom.
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And she says, "Lee came home,
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found Amanda at the bottom of the stairs,
and she's not moving."
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That's the only information I had.
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{\an8}Lee phoned me, hysterical,
and said that Amanda was dead.
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I didn't think it was real.
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I just jumped in my vehicle
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and raced there as fast as I could
'cause I didn't know what was going on.
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And that's when they… they officially
told us that, uh, um, something happened
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and, uh, Amanda had passed.
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- So I'm gonna show ya.
- Yeah.
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See if you can find
anything suspicious with him.
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We found a recipe on him.
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Grandma's strudel.
Grandma's strudel recipe.
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Amanda was the baby of the family.
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I'm the oldest of the three kids,
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and my younger brother
is a year and a half younger than me,
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and Amanda was 13 years younger than me.
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We were foster parents,
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and she came into our home as a baby,
at two months.
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She had the most beautiful blue eyes.
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And, you know, you… you just fell in love
with this baby right off the bat.
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She stole our hearts.
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Allen and I would spend a lot of time
looking after her,
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and, you know, entertaining her,
and… and, uh, just being big brothers.
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She'd fall asleep on my chest
while we're watching Flintstones,
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and she was so cute and adorable,
and she was a girl instead of a boy,
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so, you know,
that was something new for our family.
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By the time she was 14 months,
we had adopted her
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and brought her in as, you know,
part of our family.
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And from that day forward,
she was one of us.
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And it was quite exciting
to just watch her personality
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develop and grow.
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She loved to prank and joke.
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Oh my God.
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That's what you call hair!
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She loved cats. She loved dogs.
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She'd love to bring in strays
by the dozens if she could've.
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She had a very kind heart,
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and she just loved people.
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She was around 20
when she left home and met Lee.
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It was a mutual friend that introduced
Amanda and Lee to each other.
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It wasn't long after that
that they got an apartment together,
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and… and then got married
a few years later.
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From this day on,
I choose you to be my wife.
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From this day on,
I choose you to be my wife.
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She would just light up
when they were together.
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They had lots of fun together.
Lots of giggles, lots of laughs.
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When they first met, Lee had
a little bit of a wild side to him.
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Um, a little more partying
and… and… and that type of stuff.
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Amanda had approached me a couple times
through their relationship, just…
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I guess you could say a little frustrated.
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{\an8}At the time of her death,
Amanda had started her own business,
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{\an8}doing house cleaning.
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{\an8}She was always having to look after
a lot of the bills, things like that,
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when Lee was in between jobs.
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Amanda was supporting Lee.
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Lee seemed to be in and out of jobs.
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He'd get fired, and Amanda…
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It frustrated her
that he didn't have a job.
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I liked Lee, but there was times
when Amanda was hurt
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that they had had fights or whatever,
and it bothered me.
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It bothered me a lot.
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- Just have a seat here.
- Sure.
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When I came into the interview room
at the police station,
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he let us know that Amanda had passed,
and… and I asked what happened.
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And he said, "It's too early to tell,
uh, but it looks suspicious."
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And my next question was, "Where's Lee?"
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Do we know
what's going on with Lee?
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Don't know. I have nothing…
I don't know anything about that.
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Wondering how he's doing…
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Part of me was,
"Make sure you guys are talking to him,
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just in case he had something
to do with this." You know, um…
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You know, that's my little sister.
You know?
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How were things
between Lee and Amanda?
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Any bad vibes from Lee,
as the older brothers?
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Yeah…
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It… it was such a blur that day.
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So, your sister, does she
go by Amanda? Is that what she goes by?
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I don't remember
a whole lot about the interview.
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I did have concerns about Lee.
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- I think he loves her.
- Yeah?
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- But I don't 100% trust him.
- Okay.
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I… I'm not, you know,
saying that he did it, but…
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- I think he's very impulsive.
- Okay.
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- He could be, with his rage.
- Okay.
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The husband is the blinking light
when the wife has been found dead.
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If you need to go to the washroom
or something,
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you can just knock on the door
and we'll come and get you, okay?
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{\an8}He was the person
that found Amanda deceased
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{\an8}and was central to trying to figure out
who's responsible for her death.
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- Knock if you need anything.
- Thank you.
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{\an8}Very early on in the investigation,
Lee Antoni always presented
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{\an8}as a, uh, distraught, despondent husband.
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Did you have anything
to do with Amanda's death?
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No, sir.
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That first interview, Lee told us
that he left the residence on a Friday.
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He'd gone to Saskatchewan.
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He was going there
to visit with his mother
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to help settle the estate of a father
who had passed a… a year prior.
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Returned back on a Monday
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to find his wife dead.
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According to Lee,
over the course of their relationship,
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Lee and Amanda had never spent
really a night apart from one another.
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And so, for him to go away
on this one weekend,
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what is the statistical probability
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this would happen
the one weekend he goes away?
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Are you involved in this, Lee?
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I'm not. I am not, man.
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- I'm gonna find out if you are.
- Yeah. Yeah. You go right ahead.
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I was at my mom's all weekend.
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Once we'd learned
how he had driven to Saskatchewan,
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two investigators were sent
to travel along his route
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and collect video from gas stations
that he told us that he had been at.
243
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And, uh, we did collect video
that absolutely confirmed
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that Lee was in Saskatchewan
at the time Amanda died.
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Do you know who did this to Amanda?
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No. I wanna know what happened.
247
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Well… And so do I.
248
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And I guarantee you
we'll find out eventually. Okay?
249
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We did consider the possibility
250
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that Lee may have hired somebody
to take Amanda's life,
251
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but there was no evidence found
252
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that would suggest that Lee was
in contact with somebody else
253
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or that there was
any kind of arrangement made
254
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that when he left the residence
255
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that somebody else was gonna
show up on his behalf and kill Amanda.
256
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Jamie Mauracher is live
at Westwinds Police Headquarters tonight.
257
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{\an8}Jamie, police say
they don't have a suspect in custody,
258
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{\an8}so where is this investigation at now?
259
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{\an8}They have been speaking with Lee Antoni.
They say he is cooperating.
260
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They're actually ruling Lee out
as a suspect.
261
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Amanda was my better half.
262
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I fell in love with her personality.
263
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{\an8}She's a person where,
when she walks in the room,
264
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{\an8}everyone smiles.
265
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{\an8}She always makes everyone comfortable.
266
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When they were doing their investigation,
I was not worried.
267
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They were doing their job.
268
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And it's always the spouse, always first.
And I get that.
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I was fine with that.
270
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Because why? I want to know what happened.
I want to know what happened to Amanda.
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You and Amanda live in your home…
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- My wife, yes.
- Your wife.
273
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A big part of what we do
in the beginning of an investigation
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is, uh, we delve into,
in this particular case,
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Amanda's activity prior to her death.
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On Friday, you decided
to go to Saskatchewan.
277
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There was a plan that Amanda and Lee
278
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were going to travel together
to Saskatchewan.
279
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But at the last minute, Amanda stayed home
because she wasn't feeling well.
280
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I had talked to her that morning.
281
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{\an8}She didn't really have any plans.
282
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She wasn't feeling too good.
She had the migraine.
283
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Amanda would get migraines.
284
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Um, not all the time, but when
she got 'em, they were pretty severe.
285
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{\an8}I… I figured her headache
or whatever she was feeling that day
286
00:18:20,849 --> 00:18:23,310
{\an8}must have been pretty bad
for her not to go with Lee.
287
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So Amanda knew, like,
"You gotta go help your mom."
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"I'll stay here,
289
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and I'll see you on Monday
when you come back home."
290
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So I left on Friday.
291
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That was the last time I saw her.
292
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{\an8}
293
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When I got to Mom's,
I talked to Amanda.
294
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I asked her how she was doing.
295
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I asked her about her headaches and stuff.
296
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And she said, "They're still kind of bad."
297
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Lee and Amanda were in almost
constant communication
298
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from the Friday that he left.
299
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There's a very, uh, long record
of text messages back and forth.
300
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{\an8}The last time he spoke to Amanda
was at about 7:00 p.m.
301
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{\an8}on the Saturday night.
302
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{\an8}
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She said
her migraines were going away.
304
00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:32,880
Then, all of a sudden, Ruby barked.
305
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Amanda told her to shut up.
Like, "Quiet, Ruby."
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Ruby yelped.
307
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She was walking, and I could hear
a… …sound.
308
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:48,979
Then, all of a sudden, it just cut out.
309
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{\an8}And I said, "Hello? Honey?"
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"Amanda? Amanda?"
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And there was nothing.
312
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:05,537
So I hung up, tried it again.
It went just straight to her voicemail.
313
00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:08,373
So I called on my mom's house line.
314
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No answer. Straight to her voicemail.
315
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,755
When the phone cut off,
I didn't know what to think.
316
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I thought maybe she dropped her phone.
317
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Maybe her phone died.
318
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Maybe she's gonna recharge it.
I'll get a phone call back.
319
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:26,934
So then I waited for a while.
I texted her.
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No reply.
321
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{\an8}Sunday, got up. Texted her again.
322
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{\an8}I didn't get no reply.
323
00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:43,909
{\an8}So I'm like, "Well, maybe she's busy.
She'll call me later."
324
00:20:43,992 --> 00:20:45,702
'Cause you don't think of the worst.
325
00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:47,287
You never do think of the worst,
326
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especially if stuff like this
has never happened to you.
327
00:20:52,292 --> 00:20:56,296
I thought, "Maybe she's out with Darrell.
Maybe she's visiting Mom."
328
00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:57,673
Her family was very close.
329
00:20:57,756 --> 00:21:01,385
So that's where I thought
maybe she was at Darrell's.
330
00:21:01,468 --> 00:21:02,761
I was so busy with Mom,
331
00:21:02,844 --> 00:21:07,891
and we were trying to organize stuff
and get stuff so Mom could sell stuff.
332
00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:09,977
And I was busy. I was busy.
333
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Then Sunday night, and I'm like,
334
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"You know what? I'm, like…
I'm gonna go to bed tonight,
335
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I'm gonna wake up in the morning,
and I'm gonna come home and surprise her."
336
00:21:31,498 --> 00:21:35,836
{\an8}So Monday, I left. I think
it was around, like, 8:30 in the morning.
337
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Only time I stopped was to fill up gas.
338
00:21:38,213 --> 00:21:40,215
Other than that, just kept on trucking.
339
00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:48,473
When I came home,
I know the front door was locked,
340
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because I had to unlock it.
341
00:21:52,102 --> 00:21:53,603
I walked into the house.
342
00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:55,856
She wasn't there.
343
00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:58,108
Let the dog out the back door,
344
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'cause I know
she had to go to the bathroom.
345
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:06,074
And then I thought, "I'm gonna go
upstairs. Maybe Amanda's having a nap."
346
00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:09,661
First, I went into our bedroom. Nothing.
347
00:22:09,745 --> 00:22:11,246
Went in the bathroom. Nothing.
348
00:22:12,247 --> 00:22:14,291
And I'm thinking,
"Where else could she be?"
349
00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:19,171
Then I thought, "The only place
I didn't look was down in the basement."
350
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Amanda never really liked
the basement that much.
351
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I don't know why. She just had a creepy
kind of feeling about the basement.
352
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:32,017
I walked down the first four stairs…
and I…
353
00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:36,396
found Amanda.
354
00:22:40,525 --> 00:22:43,028
She was laying
in the middle of the basement,
355
00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:45,280
covered in blood.
356
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:50,535
I can't describe
the feeling I went through.
357
00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:54,247
I yelled, "Amanda! Amanda! Amanda!"
358
00:22:54,331 --> 00:22:56,958
She didn't answer.
I just turned around and started shaking.
359
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,377
I almost dropped my phone.
360
00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,712
And I called 911.
361
00:23:02,714 --> 00:23:06,093
The 911 said,
"Do you know if she's alive?"
362
00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:10,138
And I said, "No." She said, "Can you go
back downstairs and see if she's alive?"
363
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:12,933
I didn't want to go back downstairs.
364
00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,110
I didn't want to…
365
00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:33,120
That was the hardest thing,
and I didn't know how to do it.
366
00:23:34,538 --> 00:23:36,915
As I was talking, I was screaming.
367
00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:42,921
And as soon as I touched her,
she was cold.
368
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:57,269
{\an8}An autopsy by the office
of the Chief Medical Examiner is ongoing.
369
00:23:57,352 --> 00:24:01,314
I can assure everyone that we're,
uh, devoting sufficient resources
370
00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:05,110
to ensure that we conduct
a complete and thorough investigation
371
00:24:05,193 --> 00:24:08,196
to identify the person responsible
and hold them accountable.
372
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:13,702
Based on the facts
and the evidence in this case,
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00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:17,080
we believed the assault on Amanda
374
00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:20,917
likely occurred around seven o'clock
on the Saturday evening.
375
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:25,422
That is the last time
we know that she was alive,
376
00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:31,553
because there was no activity on her phone
after that time.
377
00:24:34,139 --> 00:24:37,392
We had significant concerns
that a violent offender
378
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:40,020
was running around northeast Calgary.
379
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:46,485
And so we put a lot of reliance
on our forensic crime scene unit
380
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:50,989
to assist us in identifying somebody
using evidence from the scene,
381
00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:56,077
including fingerprints, footprints,
and offender DNA.
382
00:24:59,748 --> 00:25:02,292
{\an8}I was a sergeant, uh, within the unit,
383
00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:05,754
{\an8}and I was also the bloodstain,
uh, pattern analyst as well.
384
00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:10,759
It's one of the worst scenes
that I've ever actually been in,
385
00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:12,093
and I've never had one
386
00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:15,639
with so many different types
of patterns and stains that were visible.
387
00:25:17,057 --> 00:25:21,019
This here is the stairwell coming down.
And then this was the basement.
388
00:25:21,102 --> 00:25:24,856
Um, and then this is the location
within the basement
389
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,775
of where Amanda was located.
390
00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:29,194
You could kind of see the outline
within the blood
391
00:25:29,277 --> 00:25:31,029
once she was removed from here.
392
00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:42,624
I was the primary
forensics investigator,
393
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:47,879
{\an8}responsible for processing the scene
and seizing all the exhibits.
394
00:25:49,339 --> 00:25:53,301
One thing that I did
was to dust doors for fingerprints,
395
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,679
which might assist us in determining
396
00:25:55,762 --> 00:25:58,181
who might have been
in the house with Amanda.
397
00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:00,725
I didn't find any fingerprints.
398
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:07,691
In the blood,
we found about 12 impressions.
399
00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:12,821
{\an8}Most of them appeared to have been made
by a foot rather than a hand.
400
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:17,617
One of the things
that was very perplexing
401
00:26:17,701 --> 00:26:20,412
is there were two footprint impressions
402
00:26:20,996 --> 00:26:22,247
facing up the stairs.
403
00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:24,040
They were right in this area here.
404
00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:29,462
The toes were practically touching
the base of the stairs,
405
00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:32,048
but they didn't proceed up the stairs.
406
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:36,886
You could also see
at the base of the stairs two slippers.
407
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,306
Amanda must've been wearing slippers,
408
00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:43,435
or I would presume she was wearing
slippers at the time this occurred.
409
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,647
I think
the most puzzling part for me
410
00:26:47,731 --> 00:26:50,859
was the fact that I couldn't find
any shoe impressions.
411
00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:55,363
And the only impressions
that we did locate
412
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:57,115
were barefoot impressions.
413
00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:01,953
But in this area here,
there were swipe marks,
414
00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:05,081
kind of back and forth,
back and forth in the blood.
415
00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:09,252
And I thought, "Okay, somebody
is covering up their footwear
416
00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:11,504
to get out of the scene and be undetected.
417
00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:17,636
There was no, um,
obvious defensive wounds on her body.
418
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:21,640
However, Amanda was covered
in a number of bruises.
419
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:25,727
A lot of the times
in violent crimes,
420
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:29,648
the offender also ends up
with some kind of a bloodletting injury.
421
00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:34,235
And, uh, usually when they're exiting
the scene or moving around the scene,
422
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,737
they'll drip blood as well.
423
00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:42,077
{\an8}In grid number seven, we have
these nice, dark brown bloodstains.
424
00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:48,166
{\an8}When you find
a bloodstain drip pattern like this,
425
00:27:48,249 --> 00:27:51,419
{\an8}it automatically makes me think,
"Okay, maybe this is our offender
426
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:53,713
who would have bled
in this particular area."
427
00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:59,552
Blood swabs are collected and sent off
to the lab for a DNA analysis.
428
00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:06,726
So as we waited eagerly
for our crime lab results to come back,
429
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:10,605
we needed to turn our mind
to looking for any other clues
430
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,233
that may assist us
in identifying an offender.
431
00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:22,867
There was no signs of forced entry.
432
00:28:22,951 --> 00:28:25,286
So whoever the offender was
433
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:29,165
either gained access to the residence
with a key, or using a key,
434
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:33,378
or entered into the home
through an unlocked back door.
435
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:37,549
What beats me up every day
is the back door.
436
00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:41,219
I cannot stop thinking
about that back door,
437
00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:42,971
if it was locked or unlocked,
438
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:46,683
'cause I just automatically
grabbed the knob,
439
00:28:46,766 --> 00:28:48,727
opened the door, let the dog out.
440
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,564
70-3-5, Code Six…
441
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:57,026
Investigators canvassed the area
in and around, uh, Amanda and Lee's home.
442
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:02,866
Castleridge has a statistically
higher level of crime
443
00:29:02,949 --> 00:29:06,119
over most other communities
within Calgary.
444
00:29:08,496 --> 00:29:10,623
It's just not a good neighborhood.
445
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:16,921
{\an8}There was crime constantly,
with break-ins, shootings.
446
00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:20,759
Physical attacks and assaults
were constant.
447
00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:23,136
There was always police cars.
448
00:29:24,721 --> 00:29:29,517
This alley was an alley that was
of concern to Amanda back in 2015.
449
00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:31,770
Amanda and Lee both reported
450
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:35,106
that people had been entering
into their backyard
451
00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:38,902
and actually stealing bottles and cans
from inside here.
452
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:41,696
Sometimes our back fence was open.
453
00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:43,406
Like, left open, the door.
454
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:46,284
Sometimes you could see footsteps
through the snow.
455
00:29:47,118 --> 00:29:51,331
Through this back gate,
we get to, uh, Lee and Amanda's back door.
456
00:29:51,414 --> 00:29:54,501
And, uh, this is the door
that Lee is not certain
457
00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:57,670
whether or not he unlocked
at the time of his return.
458
00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:05,720
There was a lot of transients
in that neighborhood.
459
00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:10,099
If they're that brazen
to come in her yard and do that,
460
00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:12,185
what else are they capable of doing?
461
00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:14,354
And she was a little concerned about that.
462
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:20,610
We were going to obviously
have to consider all possibilities,
463
00:30:20,693 --> 00:30:23,363
including a stalker.
464
00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:29,619
Somebody who followed her home
at some point in time,
465
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:34,791
and then used the opportunity
of Lee, uh, being away from the home
466
00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:37,252
as their opportunity to strike.
467
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:56,938
We did learn from one neighbor
468
00:30:57,021 --> 00:31:01,276
that between 6:30 and seven o'clock
on the Saturday night,
469
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:05,613
around that same time that Lee is saying
that he heard the… the, uh, dog yelp
470
00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:07,782
and the… the phone disconnect,
471
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:12,161
that Amanda's and Lee's dog
had been barking.
472
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:17,584
A scary dog bark.
Like, "Get out of here" dog bark.
473
00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:20,712
{\an8}You'd hear it from time to time,
but you wouldn't…
474
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,715
{\an8}It wouldn't be to the point
you're wondering what's going on.
475
00:31:23,798 --> 00:31:25,717
Except that night.
476
00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:30,555
Then we heard, like, a yell
coming from Amanda's house.
477
00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,728
And then our neighbor
to the right of us,
478
00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:40,773
they said that they'd seen someone
running through our yard.
479
00:31:42,108 --> 00:31:44,444
It was really unnerving.
480
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:50,241
For Ruby to bark, something
would have had to cause her to bark.
481
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:52,911
She was not that type of dog.
482
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,958
So Ruby would have barked
if someone came in the house.
483
00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:03,338
And if someone confronted Amanda,
484
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,757
Amanda would have put up a fight.
485
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:11,846
She was a little girl,
but she could hold her… hold her ground.
486
00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:18,436
Okay, Linda, I have the…
487
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,605
As we delved
into the investigation,
488
00:32:20,688 --> 00:32:22,857
we're talking
to family members and friends,
489
00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:27,195
and we go through phones,
electronic devices,
490
00:32:28,029 --> 00:32:30,198
journals, diaries, things of that nature.
491
00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:35,411
One question we have,
492
00:32:35,495 --> 00:32:39,415
is it possible that Amanda
could be involved in an affair
493
00:32:39,499 --> 00:32:40,833
that had gone wrong?
494
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:47,173
And was it possible that she was expecting
somebody to come over to the home,
495
00:32:47,256 --> 00:32:48,508
uh, while Lee was away?
496
00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:53,137
When he arrived home
and found Amanda deceased,
497
00:32:54,597 --> 00:32:56,933
Lee had noticed
that she appeared to be wearing
498
00:32:57,016 --> 00:32:59,519
a fancier pair of undergarment
or underwear,
499
00:33:00,103 --> 00:33:03,731
outside of the casual sets of underwear
that she would wear throughout the week.
500
00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:07,610
And so that was certainly something
that was considered.
501
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:14,826
But… this theory
was quickly dismissed by us,
502
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:17,578
because there is nothing that we found
503
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:21,124
that would indicate that there was
any sort of a, uh, a relationship
504
00:33:21,207 --> 00:33:23,876
with another intimate partner
outside of the marriage.
505
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:31,175
Lee and Amanda had fights,
like most people,
506
00:33:32,051 --> 00:33:36,639
but I have no doubt
that they loved each other the whole time.
507
00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:39,517
Like, Amanda loved him
just as much as he loved her.
508
00:33:42,311 --> 00:33:46,065
She wasn't involved
in drug activity, or gang activity,
509
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:48,067
or any of those kinds of things.
510
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,032
It was quite clear that Amanda
did not have a lot of enemies.
511
00:33:54,949 --> 00:33:57,577
But during Lee's interview,
512
00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:01,539
Lee identified somebody
he thought could be a suspect.
513
00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:07,545
We were called back into
the police station for a family meeting.
514
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,716
Lee was sitting there with us,
515
00:34:11,799 --> 00:34:14,260
and he looked across the table
at Allen and I, and said,
516
00:34:14,343 --> 00:34:16,637
"I think my sister
had something to do with this."
517
00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:20,975
My sister hated my wife.
518
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:24,312
And what would the reason
for your sister be to kill your wife?
519
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:27,982
My sister, at that time,
was into bad drugs.
520
00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,444
So then I called child services
on my sister.
521
00:34:32,862 --> 00:34:35,239
Because all I care about is my… my niece.
522
00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:39,035
{\an8}It was my sister and Lee that phoned
social services, or child services,
523
00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:40,995
{\an8}and had the child taken away.
524
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:46,542
My sister called every day,
20-some times, man, a day,
525
00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:48,169
"Where the fuck is my daughter?"
526
00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:52,048
My sister was really mad at me.
527
00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:55,426
And she was mad at Amanda.
528
00:34:58,846 --> 00:35:04,060
There had been threats
that Lee's sister had made to Amanda.
529
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:09,899
And for my sister to be scared
was something significant,
530
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,276
because not much scared her.
531
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:18,574
So I thought, "Did Lee's sister
have some guy come over,
532
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,868
knowing that Lee was out of town?"
533
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:24,080
'Cause his sister would have known
Lee was out of town that day.
534
00:35:26,749 --> 00:35:31,420
Lee's sister
was brought to our police facility
535
00:35:32,004 --> 00:35:35,842
and was interviewed
by an experienced investigator.
536
00:35:38,052 --> 00:35:42,890
But there's no evidence to suggest
that she was the person responsible
537
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,017
for, uh, taking Amanda's life.
538
00:35:49,605 --> 00:35:52,233
Police still don't have
any suspects in custody
539
00:35:52,316 --> 00:35:56,279
since Amanda Antoni's body was found slain
in her northeast Calgary home.
540
00:35:56,362 --> 00:35:58,531
Amanda's family
released this statement.
541
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,033
They're pleading with the public
for any information,
542
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:04,203
saying the family needs
and deserves closure.
543
00:36:05,746 --> 00:36:08,374
Despite a heavy media presence,
544
00:36:08,457 --> 00:36:11,460
no tips from the public came in,
545
00:36:11,544 --> 00:36:18,176
which, just from my own experience,
is highly, highly unusual.
546
00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:29,020
When the autopsy results came in,
547
00:36:29,103 --> 00:36:32,315
toxicology showed signs of cannabis
in her system,
548
00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:35,443
but to quantify the amount of cannabis,
549
00:36:35,526 --> 00:36:39,322
to say whether it's intoxicating or not,
it's very difficult to do.
550
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,451
And finding cannabis in her system
is consistent with the fact
551
00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:47,330
that Lee told us that she may have been
using cannabis for a migraine.
552
00:36:49,457 --> 00:36:52,210
Cause of death was blunt-force trauma,
553
00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:58,257
but it was as a result of that injury
that she actually bled to death.
554
00:36:59,425 --> 00:37:01,844
{\an8}There was no trauma to the brain.
555
00:37:02,511 --> 00:37:07,308
There weren't any broken bones,
aside from a broken right orbital bone.
556
00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:10,978
I was surprised.
557
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,814
I thought that you would see
skull fractures
558
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:15,524
and… and things of that nature.
559
00:37:15,608 --> 00:37:16,943
None of that was there.
560
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:21,530
Amanda's body was, uh, bruised
in a number of locations.
561
00:37:21,614 --> 00:37:24,408
Uh, her elbows were bruised.
She had bruises on her knees.
562
00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:26,327
She had bruises on her hips.
563
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:30,164
But there was no reason
for Amanda to have died,
564
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:34,794
except for the fact
that she had lost so much blood.
565
00:37:42,385 --> 00:37:44,595
At this point in time
in the investigation,
566
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,975
we were very anxious
to, uh, get results back from the lab
567
00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:51,227
that I had hoped would identify a suspect.
568
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:55,314
But when the DNA results came in,
569
00:37:55,398 --> 00:38:01,112
there wasn't one swab that came back
attributed to anybody else but Amanda,
570
00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:03,197
including those passive drip stains.
571
00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:07,368
I had hoped
it would be the offender,
572
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:11,330
and was anticipating that it would,
because it was such a violent scene.
573
00:38:11,414 --> 00:38:13,874
And was quite surprised
and shocked, actually,
574
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,752
to find out that it was all Amanda's DNA.
575
00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:24,385
They found no evidence that she had had
any contact with any other person,
576
00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:28,055
which means that Amanda
had not been sexually assaulted.
577
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,017
Beyond that,
578
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:37,690
fingerprints, palm prints, and footprints
collected from the basement of the home
579
00:38:37,773 --> 00:38:39,692
all were attributed to Amanda.
580
00:38:39,775 --> 00:38:41,527
There was no evidence
581
00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:45,906
that anybody else had been in the basement
except for Amanda.
582
00:38:55,374 --> 00:38:58,586
Throughout the year and a half
that we investigated,
583
00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:05,843
I was in contact with a very experienced
group of behavioral science investigators.
584
00:39:07,386 --> 00:39:10,222
And when they examined Amanda's case,
585
00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:14,018
and the lack or absence of evidence
in the home,
586
00:39:15,936 --> 00:39:19,482
they actually suggested
that Amanda's death
587
00:39:19,565 --> 00:39:23,694
wasn't as a result
of somebody else's wrongdoing.
588
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:26,489
That her death
may actually be an accident.
589
00:39:34,705 --> 00:39:38,334
I go back
through the whole entire investigation.
590
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,256
There was no fingerprints
found on the pig.
591
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:47,468
The dust on the top of the pig
was settled, you know.
592
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,804
It didn't look like
it had ever been picked up.
593
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:55,184
There's no evidence to suggest
that piggy bank ever left the shelf.
594
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:59,271
Could she have struck the piggy bank
in a fall down the stairs?
595
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:01,107
Is that a possibility?
596
00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:06,445
So we hired a biomechanics engineer
to also review the case.
597
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:09,156
They found that,
598
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:15,204
although very rare
for a woman of, uh, Miss Antoni's age,
599
00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:17,832
the type of injuries that Amanda suffered
600
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:23,129
were consistent in the literature
for accidental stair falls.
601
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:30,136
And so we had to look at the possibility
that this was just a tragic accident.
602
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:35,683
And if it's an accident…
how that happened.
603
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:44,817
I do believe, based on all of the evidence
that we've collected,
604
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:50,281
that this opening is really ground zero
for what happened to Amanda.
605
00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:55,619
Is it possible that Amanda tripped
over the dog and fell down the stairs?
606
00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:57,788
It's possible.
607
00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:03,544
What we do know
from examining this opening,
608
00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:05,796
there was an impact that occurred
609
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:10,259
where Amanda came through this space,
struck the pig,
610
00:41:10,342 --> 00:41:12,970
and the pig was driven
into the back of the wall.
611
00:41:13,053 --> 00:41:16,682
{\an8}We know that
because behind the piggy bank,
612
00:41:16,765 --> 00:41:19,602
{\an8}a small divot was left in the drywall.
613
00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:23,105
{\an8}But what nobody can ever say
614
00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:25,024
with 100% certainty
615
00:41:25,107 --> 00:41:27,026
is that did she fall down the stairs,
616
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:30,821
or could somebody
have pushed her down those stairs?
617
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:35,201
What works against the accident theory
is that, if she fell down the stairs,
618
00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:39,038
why isn't the laundry basket that you see
at the top of the stairs disturbed,
619
00:41:39,121 --> 00:41:44,043
or how did the pig not get knocked off
the… the ledge as… as she fell?
620
00:41:44,126 --> 00:41:49,089
Or how was it that the phone
was lying about eight to ten feet away,
621
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:52,468
far away from where
she would have fallen down the stairs?
622
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:56,222
There was a possibility that, yes,
she had been pushed into the piggy bank
623
00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:58,057
by our culprit or our assailant.
624
00:42:10,027 --> 00:42:12,738
I don't believe Amanda's death
was an accident.
625
00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:16,700
There's something not right.
626
00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:21,872
I just feel it in my heart
that there's something not right.
627
00:42:27,002 --> 00:42:28,796
If I didn't see what I saw
628
00:42:29,505 --> 00:42:31,757
and they would have told me
that she fell down the stairs,
629
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,217
I would have believed them.
630
00:42:34,426 --> 00:42:39,974
But because I found Amanda
in the basement and what I saw,
631
00:42:40,474 --> 00:42:42,142
it just… it didn't add up.
632
00:42:45,854 --> 00:42:48,774
When I heard that they thought
it might have been an accident,
633
00:42:49,942 --> 00:42:52,653
my gut reaction was,
"No way. She was beaten."
634
00:42:52,736 --> 00:42:55,489
"She had way too many markings on her."
635
00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,993
I've attended a lot of accident scenes,
and it was never that amount of blood.
636
00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:03,914
There was more to it.
637
00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:10,004
The dog was barking.
There was a chair overturned in the room.
638
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:12,840
I just don't…
639
00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:14,717
I don't believe it was an accident.
640
00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:17,761
Somebody pushed her down the stairs.
641
00:43:20,222 --> 00:43:22,349
Amanda did not die right away.
642
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:25,769
You know, it took some period of time
643
00:43:25,853 --> 00:43:27,980
for her to sort of lose
that amount of blood
644
00:43:28,063 --> 00:43:31,400
that would actually ultimately
be the reason for why she dies.
645
00:43:32,776 --> 00:43:37,114
We know that Amanda, after receiving
the laceration to her forehead,
646
00:43:37,197 --> 00:43:41,035
spent a lot of time moving around.
647
00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:45,873
At points in time,
she was clearly standing and walking,
648
00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:49,668
{\an8}and that's evident
by, uh, footprint impressions
649
00:43:49,752 --> 00:43:51,587
{\an8}found in the blood itself.
650
00:43:53,922 --> 00:43:58,552
It was almost 48 hours from the time
that Lee last spoke to Amanda
651
00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:02,765
{\an8}and that phone disconnected
at 7:00 p.m. on the Saturday evening
652
00:44:03,974 --> 00:44:07,102
{\an8}to the time he returned back to Calgary
on the Monday.
653
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:15,778
Part of this mystery is the fact
that the animals that lived in that home
654
00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:19,531
never ventured down into the basement
655
00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:24,328
during that 48-hour period
that Amanda laid there, uh, dying.
656
00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:29,500
We didn't see any paw prints in the blood,
657
00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:33,462
which just didn't seem logical.
658
00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:37,466
To find no paw prints
in the basement,
659
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:40,469
that does sound kind of unusual,
660
00:44:40,552 --> 00:44:46,141
because if Amanda or myself ever got hurt,
or we were crying,
661
00:44:46,225 --> 00:44:49,019
Ruby would come up to us
to kind of comfort us.
662
00:44:49,978 --> 00:44:51,647
I have a Lab myself,
663
00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:54,566
and wherever I go in the house,
the dog goes.
664
00:44:56,276 --> 00:44:59,405
If Amanda fell and is in distress,
665
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:04,868
why does the black Lab not go downstairs
and check on her, or go to see her?
666
00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:10,791
Was there somebody in the house
to prevent the dog from going downstairs?
667
00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:19,717
There are still a lot
of unanswered questions with this case.
668
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,094
Factors that I can't explain.
669
00:45:22,177 --> 00:45:24,388
Things that just
don't make any sense at all.
670
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:27,516
One thing I know for certain,
671
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,768
there was a point in time in that basement
672
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:32,938
where Amanda stood
at the base of those stairs,
673
00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:37,234
because of the bloody footprints
seen on the floor.
674
00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:39,862
She was right here.
675
00:45:40,362 --> 00:45:43,741
Why did she not make the ascent
back up the stairs?
676
00:45:43,824 --> 00:45:47,494
I will to this day
never really truly understand,
677
00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:50,164
because she was capable of it.
678
00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:57,546
Why the heck
did she not try coming upstairs?
679
00:45:57,629 --> 00:45:59,757
As stubborn as she was,
680
00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:03,886
hell or high water,
she would have made those stairs.
681
00:46:03,969 --> 00:46:05,095
Hell or high water.
682
00:46:05,846 --> 00:46:07,931
So, why didn't she even attempt?
683
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,185
That haunts me.
684
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:17,065
There's only two things
that could have happened.
685
00:46:17,566 --> 00:46:19,860
One, the loss of blood
686
00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:23,280
could have potentially diminished
her ability for rational thought.
687
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:25,115
Or two,
688
00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:29,077
whoever caused her injury
was still inside the home.
689
00:46:29,161 --> 00:46:32,790
The threat was still inside the house,
and she felt safer in the basement
690
00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:35,876
than going back up to the stairs
to face the threat.
691
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:46,428
I don't have all of the answers,
692
00:46:46,512 --> 00:46:52,518
and, ultimately, the accident theory
can never answer everything at the scene.
693
00:46:54,728 --> 00:46:58,357
A case like Amanda's case is never closed,
694
00:46:59,149 --> 00:47:03,695
but the case at this point is inactive
until new information is received.
695
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:09,535
There are days
where I think, you know,
696
00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:11,745
if I ever get to the same place
that Amanda went,
697
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,206
she's one of the first people
I want to run into.
698
00:47:14,289 --> 00:47:16,667
I'm gonna ask her,
"What happened to you, girl?"
699
00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:18,585
"What happened to you?"
700
00:47:32,933 --> 00:47:34,017
Is she awake?
701
00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:35,561
I don't know.
702
00:47:35,644 --> 00:47:36,728
Is she breathing?
703
00:47:37,354 --> 00:47:38,605
Oh my God.
704
00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:40,107
Is she breathing?
705
00:47:42,818 --> 00:47:45,445
It's been eight years
since Amanda passed away.
706
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,117
{\an8}It changes a person,
707
00:47:50,659 --> 00:47:52,661
{\an8}especially losing the love of your life.
708
00:47:53,245 --> 00:47:55,998
One that you always thought
that you could grow old with.
709
00:48:00,085 --> 00:48:03,547
If I could have changed the past,
I would have stayed home.
710
00:48:09,386 --> 00:48:11,054
Because then she'd still be here.
711
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:20,272
Amanda comes to my mind…
712
00:48:22,316 --> 00:48:23,150
every day.
713
00:48:23,775 --> 00:48:28,238
You know, we had that brother-sister bond,
and she's telling me not to quit.
714
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:32,075
She's telling me that something happened.
I just know it.
715
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:33,744
She doesn't want me to give up.
716
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:38,999
So if anybody out there… knows anything,
717
00:48:40,709 --> 00:48:42,336
I beg 'em just to come forward.
718
00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:44,671
Say something.