1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:09,574 . 2 00:00:09,618 --> 00:00:11,402 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:11,446 --> 00:00:12,751 the people are represented 4 00:00:12,795 --> 00:00:15,232 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 5 00:00:15,276 --> 00:00:17,060 the police, who investigate crime, 6 00:00:17,104 --> 00:00:19,845 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 7 00:00:19,889 --> 00:00:21,760 These are their stories. 8 00:00:22,892 --> 00:00:24,720 - Thanks, Professor. 9 00:00:24,763 --> 00:00:27,070 I'll let my team know the good news 10 00:00:27,114 --> 00:00:30,682 and we'll have a business plan ready for you by next week. 11 00:00:30,726 --> 00:00:32,031 Talk soon. 12 00:00:51,964 --> 00:00:53,879 [gunshots] [groans] 13 00:00:53,923 --> 00:00:55,185 [siren wailing] 14 00:00:55,229 --> 00:00:57,753 - DOA's a Hudson grad student named Emily Wade. 15 00:00:57,796 --> 00:01:00,582 27, two in the chest. - Witnesses? 16 00:01:00,625 --> 00:01:02,671 - Just the classmate who found her. 17 00:01:02,714 --> 00:01:04,629 Didn't see anything, but she was pretty shaken up. 18 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:06,240 Said she was the most intelligent 19 00:01:06,283 --> 00:01:08,285 and driven woman she'd ever met. 20 00:01:08,329 --> 00:01:10,070 - Where is this classmate now? 21 00:01:10,113 --> 00:01:12,202 - EMTs are treating her for shock. 22 00:01:12,246 --> 00:01:13,420 - Evidence of a break-in? 23 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:15,988 - No, looks like it all went down outside. 24 00:01:16,032 --> 00:01:17,599 - Cameras? - Afraid not. 25 00:01:17,642 --> 00:01:20,384 Off-campus housing. Security's pretty lax. 26 00:01:20,428 --> 00:01:22,212 - All right, let's see what footage we can find 27 00:01:22,256 --> 00:01:24,432 from businesses and traffic cams, huh? 28 00:01:24,475 --> 00:01:27,348 - I'd ballpark time of death as 9:30. 29 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:28,652 - Any indication of assault? 30 00:01:28,697 --> 00:01:30,525 - No. But some blood splatter. 31 00:01:30,568 --> 00:01:31,874 Means the shooter was point blank. 32 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:33,049 - I'll check inside. 33 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,094 - Probably got hit with some droplets. 34 00:01:34,137 --> 00:01:35,530 - Yup. 35 00:01:39,011 --> 00:01:41,491 "Thinking of you." 36 00:01:41,536 --> 00:01:43,364 Doesn't say who it's from or where it's from. 37 00:01:43,407 --> 00:01:46,454 Can you bag that? Thanks. 38 00:01:46,497 --> 00:01:48,630 You already check this? 39 00:01:50,021 --> 00:01:52,547 Cell phone still here. 40 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:55,463 Wallet, credit cards, money. 41 00:01:55,506 --> 00:01:57,465 - Doesn't look like anyone tossed the place. 42 00:01:57,508 --> 00:01:59,728 There's jewelry still along the nightstand. 43 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:01,730 - So it's not a robbery, not an assault. 44 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:02,861 Double tap to the chest. 45 00:02:02,905 --> 00:02:04,167 Starting to feel like an execution. 46 00:02:04,211 --> 00:02:06,343 The question is why. - Sad. 47 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:08,780 Seems like she was going places too. 48 00:02:08,824 --> 00:02:10,651 - Too bad she'll never get there now. 49 00:02:10,695 --> 00:02:14,830 ♪ 50 00:02:14,873 --> 00:02:17,833 [dramatic music] 51 00:02:17,876 --> 00:02:24,840 ♪ 52 00:03:01,311 --> 00:03:03,618 - I was dropping off a statistics outline 53 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:06,316 Em had loaned me. Saw this van speeding off. 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,752 - What'd the van look like? 55 00:03:07,796 --> 00:03:10,538 - Uh, blue. Green stripe down the side. 56 00:03:10,581 --> 00:03:13,018 - You get a look at the plates or the driver? 57 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:14,629 - Sorry. No. 58 00:03:14,672 --> 00:03:17,066 - How well did you know the victim? 59 00:03:17,109 --> 00:03:18,720 - We were study partners. 60 00:03:18,763 --> 00:03:22,245 - Can you think of anybody she had a problem with? 61 00:03:23,638 --> 00:03:25,248 - Yeah. 62 00:03:25,292 --> 00:03:26,771 We'd get drinks at this place 63 00:03:26,815 --> 00:03:29,252 in Dumbo on Wednesdays called Ewing's. 64 00:03:29,296 --> 00:03:31,036 She didn't want to go last week. 65 00:03:31,079 --> 00:03:34,126 Said she was fighting with one of the bartenders. 66 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:35,258 - You know what the issue was about? 67 00:03:35,302 --> 00:03:36,912 - No. 68 00:03:36,954 --> 00:03:40,437 But he apparently followed her to the library the other day. 69 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:47,227 [door clicks] 70 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:48,880 - Sorry, guys, not open till five. 71 00:03:48,924 --> 00:03:51,055 - Nathan Brae. 72 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,319 - Who's asking? 73 00:03:52,362 --> 00:03:53,450 - We're New York City detectives. 74 00:03:53,494 --> 00:03:55,060 We need a word. 75 00:03:55,103 --> 00:03:56,932 [cups clatter] 76 00:03:56,975 --> 00:03:59,891 [dramatic music] 77 00:03:59,935 --> 00:04:06,898 ♪ 78 00:04:08,335 --> 00:04:10,728 [both grunt] 79 00:04:10,772 --> 00:04:12,252 Give me your hands. Give me your hands. 80 00:04:12,295 --> 00:04:14,210 - I didn't do anything wrong. 81 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:16,865 [handcuffs clicking] 82 00:04:18,301 --> 00:04:19,346 - I only ran because I had coke on me. 83 00:04:19,389 --> 00:04:20,651 I didn't want to get in trouble. 84 00:04:20,695 --> 00:04:22,784 - Good instincts, so unless you start talking, 85 00:04:22,827 --> 00:04:24,568 we're gonna charge you with possession. 86 00:04:24,612 --> 00:04:27,397 - What's your beef with Emily Wade? 87 00:04:27,441 --> 00:04:29,356 - I was dating her friend, Alli. 88 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:30,748 It was going good, too, 89 00:04:30,792 --> 00:04:32,794 until she dumped me out of the blue last week. 90 00:04:32,837 --> 00:04:35,013 Turns out Emily's been dissing me all over the place. 91 00:04:35,057 --> 00:04:36,754 I was pissed. - Is that why you followed her 92 00:04:36,798 --> 00:04:39,409 to the library? - Yeah. 93 00:04:39,453 --> 00:04:40,932 I told her to stay the hell out of my life 94 00:04:40,976 --> 00:04:42,717 and then some muscle-head gets in between us 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,327 and tells me to back off, so I did. 96 00:04:44,371 --> 00:04:46,503 - And you didn't go back to her place later that evening, 97 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:48,070 try to finish the conversation? - No. 98 00:04:48,113 --> 00:04:49,898 There's no point, you know? 99 00:04:49,941 --> 00:04:51,595 - So where were you? - What do you mean? 100 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:54,424 Why do you care? - Because Emily Wade is dead. 101 00:04:56,339 --> 00:04:59,821 Nathan Brae's alibi checks out. Nothing on canvass either. 102 00:04:59,864 --> 00:05:01,649 - Any next of kin we can talk to? 103 00:05:01,692 --> 00:05:02,867 - Nobody even to notify. 104 00:05:02,911 --> 00:05:04,478 Her parents died when she was five. 105 00:05:04,521 --> 00:05:05,783 She was raised in foster care. 106 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,220 - So what about this mysterious blue van? 107 00:05:08,264 --> 00:05:09,961 - Snake eyes. [knock on door] 108 00:05:10,005 --> 00:05:12,355 - Got something here, Lieutenant. 109 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,966 This is last Wednesday afternoon 110 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:17,795 outside Drummond Library. 111 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,363 - There's our boy, giving her the what for. 112 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:23,714 - The argument doesn't get very far. 113 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:25,934 - Huh, looks like our Good Samaritan's 114 00:05:25,977 --> 00:05:27,762 no random bystander. 115 00:05:27,805 --> 00:05:29,546 - Any chance we can get an ID? 116 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:31,461 - I already sent the image to FIS. 117 00:05:31,505 --> 00:05:33,681 This is what they just sent back. 118 00:05:33,724 --> 00:05:36,379 Bobby Gorman, 28, ex-Marine. 119 00:05:36,423 --> 00:05:39,513 - Any recent contact with Emily? 120 00:05:39,556 --> 00:05:42,167 - Lot of romantic back and forth. 121 00:05:42,211 --> 00:05:43,517 Whoa. 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,476 Punctuated by a nasty DM he sent early yesterday 123 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,349 accusing her of cheating on him. 124 00:05:49,392 --> 00:05:52,308 "I'm so angry, I could kill you." 125 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:55,355 - We got an address on this charmer? 126 00:05:55,398 --> 00:05:57,661 - Sheepshead Bay. - All right, guys. 127 00:05:57,705 --> 00:06:00,360 Dust off your E-ZPass. You're going to Brooklyn. 128 00:06:06,714 --> 00:06:06,931 . 129 00:06:06,975 --> 00:06:10,457 - I found out about Emily on Citizen. 130 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,372 I can't believe she's gone. 131 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:14,199 - Were you two together? 132 00:06:14,243 --> 00:06:15,679 - For a few months. 133 00:06:15,723 --> 00:06:19,161 - How was it going? - Ups and downs. 134 00:06:19,204 --> 00:06:21,468 But I saw a future there. 135 00:06:21,511 --> 00:06:23,818 - Let's talk about those downs then, huh? 136 00:06:23,861 --> 00:06:27,343 Like you threatening to kill her. 137 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,432 - What? You think I did this? 138 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:30,651 - We think you need to explain why 139 00:06:30,694 --> 00:06:34,176 you were sending her threatening texts. 140 00:06:34,219 --> 00:06:35,830 - I felt terrible about that. 141 00:06:35,873 --> 00:06:38,267 I was just venting. - About what? 142 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:40,487 - All she did was study. 143 00:06:40,530 --> 00:06:42,183 Barely had any time for me. 144 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:44,186 So I showed up at her place on Thursday 145 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:46,449 to surprise her with Knicks tickets, 146 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:49,844 but she was on her way out, all dressed up. 147 00:06:49,887 --> 00:06:53,543 She claimed she had a family issue to deal with. 148 00:06:53,587 --> 00:06:55,850 - You go by her place last night for any reason? 149 00:06:55,893 --> 00:06:58,461 - No. 150 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:02,160 Look, I didn't kill her. 151 00:07:02,204 --> 00:07:04,902 I loved her. 152 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:11,256 - Key card to Gorman's loft confirms his alibi. 153 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:13,041 - So where are we with 154 00:07:13,084 --> 00:07:16,261 the unspecified family issues that he alluded to? 155 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:18,220 - Still looking for the family. 156 00:07:18,263 --> 00:07:21,397 - All right, so let's work back from the time of the murder. 157 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:23,747 What was Emily doing that day? Where was she? 158 00:07:23,791 --> 00:07:25,619 Who was she with? - Already on it. 159 00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:27,229 I pulled Emily's financials. 160 00:07:27,272 --> 00:07:31,233 Found an Uber charge the day of the murder at 4:14 p.m. 161 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:33,365 - Hmm. - Where'd she go? 162 00:07:37,848 --> 00:07:41,417 - Yes, I met with the poor soul 163 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:43,593 day before yesterday. - About what? 164 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:46,291 - Her foster brother, Lonnie, is a member here. 165 00:07:46,335 --> 00:07:48,511 She was worried about him. 166 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:51,209 - What was she worried about, Pastor Butler? 167 00:07:51,253 --> 00:07:54,909 - Uh, it's Pastor Mike, and no offense, Detectives, 168 00:07:54,952 --> 00:07:58,608 but I take my parishioners' privacy very seriously. 169 00:07:58,652 --> 00:08:01,742 - We understand, but Emily was murdered shortly after 170 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:04,048 she left here, so you have to understand 171 00:08:04,092 --> 00:08:08,357 that we need to know why she was so concerned about him. 172 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,794 - Yes. 173 00:08:10,838 --> 00:08:13,101 He'd been asking her for money. 174 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:15,451 She was worried about the direction his life was taking. 175 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:17,758 - What direction are we talking about? 176 00:08:17,801 --> 00:08:20,761 - She asked that I motivate him to find a job. 177 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:24,329 I told her I would do my best and she left. 178 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:26,854 Excuse me for a second. Reverend Sherman. 179 00:08:28,899 --> 00:08:31,336 Liturgy looks perfect, Henry. Thank you. 180 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:35,471 Lord's work is never done. 181 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:36,864 - Speaking of the Lord's work-- 182 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:38,561 it's been a minute since I was an altar boy, 183 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:42,609 but why would Emily think career advice 184 00:08:42,652 --> 00:08:44,872 is something that's in your portfolio? 185 00:08:44,915 --> 00:08:49,180 - The success of our flock glorifies God, 186 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:51,922 so part of our work is to guide them to milk and honey. 187 00:08:51,966 --> 00:08:55,012 As Jesus said, "I came that they may have life 188 00:08:55,056 --> 00:08:56,753 and have it abundantly." 189 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:58,625 - And that's your thing? Abundance? 190 00:08:58,668 --> 00:09:02,803 - Yes. My congregation is very generous. 191 00:09:02,846 --> 00:09:04,761 - Thank you for your time. - Thank you. 192 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:07,459 - We'll let you know if there's any follow-up. 193 00:09:10,462 --> 00:09:13,814 - Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. - Tell me how you really feel. 194 00:09:13,857 --> 00:09:16,294 - Don't tell me you didn't see that fancy, schmancy suit 195 00:09:16,338 --> 00:09:17,687 and $10,000 watch. 196 00:09:17,731 --> 00:09:19,994 He's bleeding that congregation dry. 197 00:09:20,037 --> 00:09:21,648 - It's a little more complicated than that. 198 00:09:21,691 --> 00:09:24,302 A guy like that-- he takes, but he also gives. 199 00:09:24,346 --> 00:09:26,348 - How so? 200 00:09:26,391 --> 00:09:28,611 - Some of these folks are having trouble finding a job, 201 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:30,961 paying rent, even harder time staying positive. 202 00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:32,484 - No different from any church I know. 203 00:09:32,528 --> 00:09:33,703 - Yeah, but Pastor Mike 204 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:35,400 fills a void for people who feel hopeless. 205 00:09:35,444 --> 00:09:37,968 He's modeling success 206 00:09:38,012 --> 00:09:39,927 so that his congregation has something to aspire to. 207 00:09:39,970 --> 00:09:42,538 - Not my idea of religion. - Not mine either. 208 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:45,236 But religion is whatever works for you, right? 209 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,848 So some people think it's the body of Christ 210 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:49,197 being represented by a wafer. 211 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,678 Some people think it's ponying up so the pastor 212 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:53,680 can wear a Rolex. - I am not buying it. 213 00:09:53,723 --> 00:09:57,031 - He's not selling it to you. 214 00:09:57,074 --> 00:09:58,554 Prosperity means something different 215 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:01,470 when you grow up poor and Black, Frank. 216 00:10:01,513 --> 00:10:03,559 - Fair enough. 217 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:05,126 - Let's check with Emily's foster brother. 218 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:06,780 See what he knows. 219 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,783 - Emily and I spent five years in this group home in Canarsie. 220 00:10:09,826 --> 00:10:12,568 The only thing we got out of that place was each other. 221 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,485 She was my big sis. 222 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:18,835 - Sorry for your loss, Lonnie. - Yeah. 223 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,402 - We're trying to piece together 224 00:10:20,445 --> 00:10:22,056 Emily's movements two days ago. 225 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:23,927 When was the last time you saw her? 226 00:10:25,755 --> 00:10:29,498 - I went by her place about lunch. 227 00:10:29,541 --> 00:10:32,153 - Now, would you say that was a social call or something else? 228 00:10:34,372 --> 00:10:36,157 - I needed her to float me rent. 229 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,680 - Oh, you were having money problems? 230 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:41,249 - I got laid off a month ago. 231 00:10:41,292 --> 00:10:42,946 Savings are a little light. 232 00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:46,950 - I mean, I couldn't imagine how that conversation might go 233 00:10:46,994 --> 00:10:50,562 between me and my sister if I was asking her to pay my rent. 234 00:10:50,606 --> 00:10:53,435 You guys didn't fight or argue, did you? 235 00:10:53,478 --> 00:10:56,699 - No, she was happy to do it. 236 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:59,615 She even had the money wired to my landlord. 237 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:00,964 - How much money we talking about? 238 00:11:01,008 --> 00:11:02,662 - Two grand. 239 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:06,709 - Yeah, well, the brother's story checks out. 240 00:11:06,753 --> 00:11:08,798 - Then let's follow the money trail. 241 00:11:08,842 --> 00:11:11,801 - Communication just finished the work up on her device. 242 00:11:11,845 --> 00:11:14,717 GPS puts her at the corner of 11th and Avenue C 243 00:11:14,761 --> 00:11:17,067 right after eight on the night of the murder. 244 00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:19,287 The address is a match for a pawn shop 245 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:20,854 called Sid's Jewelry and Loans. 246 00:11:20,897 --> 00:11:23,117 - There ought to be security cams on that street, right? 247 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,509 - Searching now. 248 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:26,947 Pawn shop's got them on front and back. 249 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:28,644 This is at 8:20. 250 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,124 - That looks like Emily. 251 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:32,648 - Hey, can you get in tighter on that guy? 252 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,129 - Yes, but you never see his face. 253 00:11:35,172 --> 00:11:38,219 - All right, well, fast forward on the tape. 254 00:11:38,262 --> 00:11:40,961 - This is 8:32. - She hawks something, 255 00:11:41,004 --> 00:11:43,137 and then an hour later, she's dead. 256 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:45,748 - GPS confirms her next stop was home. 257 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:47,968 [tense music] 258 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:50,361 - Freeze that. 259 00:11:50,405 --> 00:11:53,843 - Yeah, blue van, green pinstripe. 260 00:11:53,887 --> 00:11:55,932 - Got a shot of the driver too. 261 00:11:55,976 --> 00:11:58,630 Can't make out details, but it looks like a Black male 262 00:11:58,674 --> 00:12:02,069 wearing the same New York logo hat as the guy on the street. 263 00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:04,375 - Could fit the bill of the van leaving the murder scene. 264 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:05,812 Can you pull up the registration? 265 00:12:05,855 --> 00:12:08,553 - Plate comes back to Ruben Grandy, 266 00:12:08,597 --> 00:12:10,164 Astoria. 267 00:12:10,207 --> 00:12:11,643 He's got priors for armed robbery. 268 00:12:11,687 --> 00:12:13,254 - All right, bring him in. 269 00:12:13,297 --> 00:12:16,257 [dramatic music] 270 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:21,566 ♪ 271 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:22,567 - [grunts] - [shouts] 272 00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:24,178 - Police! Show me your hands. 273 00:12:24,221 --> 00:12:25,657 Show me your hands. - Don't move! 274 00:12:25,701 --> 00:12:27,355 - Take it easy, fellas. 275 00:12:27,398 --> 00:12:29,879 - Who else is here? - Nobody, I swear to God. 276 00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:31,402 - All rooms clear. - Clear. 277 00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:33,709 - Let's go. - All right, keep your hands up 278 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,624 and stand up for me. Let's go. 279 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:36,799 - All right, but I'ma need my crutches. 280 00:12:36,843 --> 00:12:38,627 I got a broken leg. 281 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:43,153 ♪ 282 00:12:47,854 --> 00:12:48,071 . 283 00:12:48,115 --> 00:12:51,292 - I told you, I was playing poker here with some friends. 284 00:12:51,335 --> 00:12:54,121 - Where's your van? - Gave it away a few weeks ago. 285 00:12:54,164 --> 00:12:56,558 - To who? - My church. First Harmony. 286 00:12:56,601 --> 00:12:58,821 Cast won't come off till summer, so I can't drive. 287 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:00,780 I was happy to send it their way too. 288 00:13:00,823 --> 00:13:03,391 - And why's that? - Guy that runs the church, 289 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:06,829 Pastor Mike, he's a good man. 290 00:13:06,873 --> 00:13:09,310 Found me a job when I got out of Sing Sing. 291 00:13:09,353 --> 00:13:11,834 - So Pastor Mike is the one driving the van now. 292 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:14,532 - No, he gave it to the vice pastor, 293 00:13:14,576 --> 00:13:16,839 Reverend Sherman. 294 00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:19,755 - Yes, I was driving Ruben's van. 295 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,583 My car is in the shop. 296 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:23,106 - Where'd you go after you left the church? 297 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:24,804 - Home. 298 00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:27,415 - You have any interaction with Emily Wade couple nights ago? 299 00:13:27,458 --> 00:13:29,678 - Who? - Emily Wade. 300 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:31,898 Her brother's Lonnie Ballard. He's a congregant. 301 00:13:31,941 --> 00:13:34,683 - Mm. 302 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:36,032 Before I say anything else, 303 00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:37,773 I need to know why you're asking that. 304 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:39,427 - That van was used in the commission 305 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:41,821 of the murder of Emily Wade. 306 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:43,257 - You accusing me of something? 307 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,172 - You stop by a pawn shop that night around 8:30, 308 00:13:45,215 --> 00:13:48,915 maybe one on 11th and Avenue C? - No. 309 00:13:48,958 --> 00:13:50,655 - So you're saying you went straight home 310 00:13:50,699 --> 00:13:52,005 from First Harmony and you never left. 311 00:13:52,048 --> 00:13:54,877 Is that right, Henry? - It's Reverend Sherman. 312 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,966 You'd do well to remember who you're talking to. 313 00:13:58,402 --> 00:14:00,796 - [chuckles] 314 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,712 - We know exactly who we're talking to. 315 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:05,714 An ex-con with a rap sheet as long as my arm 316 00:14:05,757 --> 00:14:07,890 and a seven-year stint in Fishkill. 317 00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:09,936 And now, all of a sudden, you're a man of the cloth? 318 00:14:09,979 --> 00:14:12,025 - Meaning what? - Meaning you're no bishop, 319 00:14:12,068 --> 00:14:14,288 so you need to account for your whereabouts two nights ago. 320 00:14:14,331 --> 00:14:17,595 - The only one I need to account to is God. 321 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:19,641 And I won't stand here and be insulted... 322 00:14:19,684 --> 00:14:21,295 - Hey. - For devoting my life 323 00:14:21,338 --> 00:14:22,818 to the almighty. - Calm down. 324 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,646 - You can see yourselves out. - You're on parole. 325 00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:26,126 You're not going anywhere. - [scoffs] 326 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:28,302 both: Hey, hey. Wait. - Yo, take your hands off of me. 327 00:14:28,345 --> 00:14:30,304 - Hey, Henry. - [grunts] 328 00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:32,349 - We got a church too. 329 00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:34,699 And putting hands on my partner, 330 00:14:34,743 --> 00:14:36,788 that's a sin. 331 00:14:38,312 --> 00:14:40,662 Let's try this again. - I already told you. 332 00:14:40,705 --> 00:14:42,969 I was at the church until six then I went home. 333 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:44,927 - How do you explain the fact that you were seen 334 00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:46,973 in that van driving away from the church? 335 00:14:47,016 --> 00:14:49,889 That same van was spotted a few hours later 336 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:51,716 fleeing the scene of Emily's shooting. 337 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,066 - Someone else had to be driving it. 338 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,937 - Somebody else is driving your van? 339 00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:57,679 - Yeah, I left the keys on the front tire when I parked it. 340 00:14:57,722 --> 00:14:59,202 - And why would you do that? 341 00:14:59,246 --> 00:15:01,335 - So parishioners in need of transportation can use it. 342 00:15:01,378 --> 00:15:04,294 - You got callers for possession and burglary. 343 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:07,515 Maybe you're using again. Maybe you're hard up for cash 344 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:09,212 and you saw Emily as an easy target. 345 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:10,648 - You're wrong. - I don't think I am. 346 00:15:10,692 --> 00:15:13,956 I'm searching your van. 347 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,045 - You okay with all this? - With what? 348 00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:17,351 - End of the day, 349 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:20,745 you got to decide whose side you're really on. 350 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:22,834 - I've already decided, brother. 351 00:15:22,878 --> 00:15:25,533 I'm on God's side. 352 00:15:25,576 --> 00:15:28,057 Turns out, he doesn't like murder. 353 00:15:29,798 --> 00:15:32,844 - There's a baseball cap with a New York logo on it 354 00:15:32,888 --> 00:15:35,717 and there's blood on the armrest. 355 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,675 - [whistles] Blood. 356 00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:39,721 You want to explain that? - I'm not talking. 357 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:41,114 - Well, maybe you'll talk to a jury. 358 00:15:41,157 --> 00:15:43,116 You're under arrest for the murder of Emily Wade. 359 00:15:46,771 --> 00:15:49,296 - Calling docket ending in 2129. 360 00:15:49,339 --> 00:15:50,906 People versus Henry Sherman 361 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:53,387 charged with murder in the second degree. 362 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:54,954 - How does the defendant plead? 363 00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:56,999 - Not guilty, Your Honor. 364 00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:58,958 - I'll hear the people on bail. 365 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:00,263 - We're seeking remand. 366 00:16:00,307 --> 00:16:02,700 The defendant stalked the victim, 367 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:05,442 followed her home, then shot her to death 368 00:16:05,486 --> 00:16:07,183 during a botched robbery. 369 00:16:07,227 --> 00:16:08,880 Evidence is substantial. 370 00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:10,926 We found the victim's blood in a van 371 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:12,754 that the defendant had control over-- 372 00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:15,800 the same van seen leaving the victim's apartment 373 00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:18,107 shortly after the murder. - Mr. Gale. 374 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:21,589 - My client is a highly respected member of the clergy. 375 00:16:21,632 --> 00:16:23,025 - With a lengthy criminal record. 376 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:26,507 - Who's lived an exemplary life since finding God. 377 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:29,597 There's no eye witnesses, no gun, 378 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,207 no evidence of motive. 379 00:16:31,251 --> 00:16:35,342 No one can put my client behind the wheel of that van 380 00:16:35,385 --> 00:16:37,257 at the time of the murder. 381 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:40,086 - An argument you're free to make at trial, Mr. Gale. 382 00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:42,262 Bail is set at $1 million. [gavel thumps] 383 00:16:45,743 --> 00:16:50,009 - Case is solid, but our motive is still weak. 384 00:16:50,052 --> 00:16:52,968 Why on Earth would this man kill Emily Wade? 385 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,405 - Does it matter? If we can prove he shot her, 386 00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,320 his motive's irrelevant. 387 00:16:57,364 --> 00:16:59,931 My mentor taught me that. 388 00:16:59,975 --> 00:17:02,064 - Yes, but he also taught you 389 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:04,980 juries hate cases that don't make sense. 390 00:17:05,023 --> 00:17:07,852 - You're right. He did. 391 00:17:07,896 --> 00:17:10,986 So let's dig deeper. 392 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:14,381 Find a credible reason why Sherman wanted to kill Emily. 393 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:18,037 - Scour his texts, email, phone records, financials. 394 00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:24,652 - [whistles] - Mm-hmm. 395 00:17:24,694 --> 00:17:28,263 A V12. - Gentlemen. 396 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:30,049 - Pastor Mike. 397 00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:31,876 Nice ride. You got a minute? 398 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,488 - I'd love to chat, but I'm late. 399 00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:36,620 One of my oldest and dearest congregants is quite ill. 400 00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:39,623 I'm heading over to the hospital to pray with him. 401 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:41,321 Help him find peace before he passes. 402 00:17:41,364 --> 00:17:43,497 - Oh, that's fantastic, so this won't take long. 403 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:44,672 We just have a few questions. 404 00:17:44,715 --> 00:17:46,065 - Sorry, I can't. Not now. 405 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:48,197 - Oh, you misunderstand my kindness here. 406 00:17:48,241 --> 00:17:51,505 I'm not asking. I'm telling. 407 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:53,333 - You're telling? 408 00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:55,030 No, you don't get to tell me a damn thing. 409 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,163 - Sure I do. For starters, I'm telling you 410 00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,947 that we know that vice Pastor Sherman 411 00:17:58,990 --> 00:18:03,778 deposited a $50,000 check a day after Emily Wade was shot. 412 00:18:03,821 --> 00:18:05,519 - So? 413 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:08,043 - So we want to know what the check was for. 414 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,958 - It's a private matter. - Private? 415 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:12,091 Sherman was charged with murder, 416 00:18:12,134 --> 00:18:15,398 so anything he has said or done is now a public matter. 417 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:19,794 - I'm done talking, so you can either arrest me 418 00:18:19,837 --> 00:18:22,188 or step out of my way. 419 00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:29,108 ♪ 420 00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:30,979 Good day. 421 00:18:35,897 --> 00:18:38,160 [car engine turns over] 422 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,079 - Does your pastor drive a Bentley? 423 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,429 - I don't go to church enough to know. 424 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:52,783 . 425 00:18:52,827 --> 00:18:55,569 - A superseding indictment for first-degree murder. 426 00:18:55,612 --> 00:18:58,485 On what basis? - Murder for hire. 427 00:18:58,528 --> 00:19:02,793 Pastor Mike paid your client to kill Emily Wade. 428 00:19:02,837 --> 00:19:04,447 - Is this a joke? 429 00:19:04,491 --> 00:19:06,797 - Here are 50,000 reasons it's not. 430 00:19:08,669 --> 00:19:11,933 - So he makes a $50,000 deposit. 431 00:19:11,976 --> 00:19:14,240 Who cares? - I'm guessing the jury might 432 00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:16,111 since it was the day after the murder 433 00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:17,591 from a First Harmony account. 434 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:21,203 - And phone logs show Mr. Sherman called Pastor Mike 435 00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:24,598 just before and after Emily Wade was shot to death. 436 00:19:24,641 --> 00:19:26,774 - Look, if we're right, and we are, 437 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:29,646 you would be wise to cooperate. 438 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:32,867 Tell us what really happened, or there's a very good chance 439 00:19:32,910 --> 00:19:36,436 you'll die in prison. 440 00:19:36,479 --> 00:19:39,221 - I've got nothing to say. 441 00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:43,399 - You feel obligation to Pastor Mike 442 00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,662 because he took you in, 443 00:19:45,706 --> 00:19:48,012 he gave you a job, a purpose. 444 00:19:48,056 --> 00:19:51,581 But what he really did is use you. 445 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:56,020 That's why you're here taking the rap and he's not. 446 00:19:58,806 --> 00:20:01,765 Murder two, 15 years. 447 00:20:03,463 --> 00:20:05,334 - I'm not a rat. 448 00:20:05,378 --> 00:20:08,294 [soft dramatic music] 449 00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:14,474 ♪ 450 00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:17,216 Hold on. Wait. 451 00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:26,616 - How about man one, ten years flat? 452 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:29,663 - We're listening. 453 00:20:29,706 --> 00:20:32,448 - Pastor Mike was nervous. 454 00:20:32,492 --> 00:20:35,016 Said that Emily was a problem. 455 00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:37,148 That we needed to shut her ass up. 456 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:40,804 - What did he mean by that? 457 00:20:40,848 --> 00:20:43,851 - He wanted me to kill her. 458 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:48,682 - Why would he want to do that? 459 00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:53,034 - She told Pastor Mike she was gonna call the police 460 00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:55,950 if he didn't return her brother's donation. 461 00:20:55,993 --> 00:20:58,300 Let them know what's really going on in the church. 462 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:02,043 - Is that some sort of secret? - No. 463 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:04,872 But Pastor Mike doesn't like paying taxes 464 00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:09,311 or going to jail, so he panicked. 465 00:21:09,355 --> 00:21:11,618 - Okay. 466 00:21:11,661 --> 00:21:13,054 Yeah, we got a deal, 467 00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:15,970 assuming your story checks out, of course. 468 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:24,413 Did you give or donate money to Pastor Mike? 469 00:21:24,457 --> 00:21:26,546 - Yes. 470 00:21:26,589 --> 00:21:28,112 $40,000. 471 00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:31,333 - Did Emily know about this? - Yes. 472 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,379 I told her that day I asked her to help me pay the rent. 473 00:21:33,422 --> 00:21:37,165 - Well, when she heard about the donation, was she upset? 474 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:41,343 Did she tell you she was going to go get your money back? 475 00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:44,346 - She was upset. She thought I was an idiot. 476 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,261 But she didn't think like I did. 477 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:50,352 She's not a believer like me. 478 00:21:50,396 --> 00:21:53,312 Wait. 479 00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:54,748 You think Pastor Mike has something to do 480 00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:56,619 with her murder? 481 00:21:56,663 --> 00:21:58,099 - That is correct. 482 00:21:58,142 --> 00:22:00,231 - When she found out you gave him that money, 483 00:22:00,275 --> 00:22:03,713 she stormed over to the church and demanded he give it back. 484 00:22:03,757 --> 00:22:06,020 - Or she would inform the police about his antics. 485 00:22:06,063 --> 00:22:07,543 - What do you mean antics? 486 00:22:07,587 --> 00:22:10,372 - Buying houses and boats with his congregants' 487 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:12,461 hard-earned cash. - You're wrong. 488 00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:14,507 The money we give helps with prosperity. 489 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:16,117 It's part of the gospel. 490 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,858 - I know this is hard for you to hear-- 491 00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:19,947 - Pastor Mike would never hurt Emily. 492 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:21,427 He's a healer. 493 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:26,083 I mean, if it wasn't for him, I'd probably be dead. 494 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,998 I mean, he got me off heroin. 495 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:33,613 - And with all due respect, 496 00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:37,138 that has nothing to do with your sister's case. 497 00:22:40,141 --> 00:22:43,536 - I think I've had enough. 498 00:22:43,579 --> 00:22:46,147 Please leave. 499 00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:48,323 Now. 500 00:22:52,196 --> 00:22:53,502 - Let me get this straight. 501 00:22:53,546 --> 00:22:56,375 You want to go after a pillar of the community, 502 00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:58,812 a clergyman, 503 00:22:58,855 --> 00:23:00,683 on the word of a convicted felon 504 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:02,468 with every reason to trade up. 505 00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:05,384 - We believe Henry Sherman is telling the truth. 506 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:08,038 The victim's brother confirmed the crux of his story. 507 00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:10,954 - That's great, but Sherman is still the felon 508 00:23:10,998 --> 00:23:13,870 with a fantastic motive to lie his ass off. 509 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:16,264 - We're talking about a religious leader 510 00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:19,615 who orchestrated someone's murder to cover up his scheme. 511 00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:22,313 If we don't at least try to hold someone like that 512 00:23:22,357 --> 00:23:24,925 accountable, we're in the wrong line of work. 513 00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:32,672 - Put Pastor Mike on trial, not his church. 514 00:23:32,715 --> 00:23:36,415 If you lose religious jurors, you won't have a prayer. 515 00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:42,769 choir: ♪ Gonna lay down my burden 516 00:23:42,812 --> 00:23:45,206 ♪ Down by the riverside 517 00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:49,993 ♪ Study war no more - Yes. 518 00:23:50,037 --> 00:23:51,691 - Lord. [cheers and applause] 519 00:23:51,734 --> 00:23:54,215 They live. - Yes. 520 00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:57,044 - Praise the Lord. - Yeah! 521 00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:58,915 - Thank you, choir, for lifting our spirits 522 00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:00,743 on the winds of your song. Amen? 523 00:24:00,787 --> 00:24:02,353 all: Amen. - Amen? 524 00:24:02,397 --> 00:24:03,964 all: Amen. 525 00:24:04,007 --> 00:24:05,226 - I want to talk about 526 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:07,707 the importance of your financial support. 527 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:10,057 What you give your church will come back to you tenfold. 528 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,016 all: Yes. - Detectives. 529 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,018 You're interrupting our service. 530 00:24:15,062 --> 00:24:17,238 - Pastor, we need a word. 531 00:24:17,281 --> 00:24:20,023 - You're gonna have to wait. - Justice waits for no man. 532 00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:21,634 [attendees shouting] 533 00:24:21,677 --> 00:24:26,160 You're under arrest for the murder of Emily Wade. 534 00:24:26,203 --> 00:24:29,555 [overlapping shouting] 535 00:24:31,644 --> 00:24:35,691 - Fear not, my children. God has a plan. 536 00:24:35,735 --> 00:24:37,388 The righteous shall prevail. 537 00:24:41,218 --> 00:24:41,392 . 538 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:42,829 - This is ludicrous. 539 00:24:42,872 --> 00:24:44,483 Do you seriously think 540 00:24:44,526 --> 00:24:46,397 that I'm involved in this young woman's death? 541 00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:47,573 - We do. 542 00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:50,227 - Because Reverend Sherman made up a story. 543 00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:52,665 - He seemed pretty credible. 544 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:56,364 - Evidence supports it too. 545 00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:59,846 - I suppose the darkness from within was just 546 00:24:59,889 --> 00:25:01,238 too much for him to overcome. 547 00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:03,502 - Yeah, that may be true, but right now, 548 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:06,940 you need to help yourself and tell us what happened. 549 00:25:11,901 --> 00:25:14,338 - I'm done talking. 550 00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:16,253 I want a lawyer. 551 00:25:16,297 --> 00:25:19,256 Reverend Sherman can say whatever he wants, 552 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,216 but the truth will prevail. 553 00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,745 - After Emily Wade left First Harmony, 554 00:25:29,789 --> 00:25:32,879 did you have occasion to confer with Pastor Mike? 555 00:25:32,922 --> 00:25:35,272 - I did. - And what did he tell you 556 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:37,536 about the conversation that he'd had with her? 557 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:49,939 - We didn't talk about her. We talked about his sermon. 558 00:25:49,983 --> 00:25:52,463 - He didn't tell you that Ms. Wade 559 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,248 wanted her brother's money back 560 00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:56,206 or she was gonna go to the police? 561 00:25:56,250 --> 00:25:57,643 - No. - He didn't tell you 562 00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:00,036 that she would destroy everything you'd built, 563 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,778 so you had to shut her up? - No. 564 00:26:02,822 --> 00:26:05,738 [tense music] 565 00:26:05,781 --> 00:26:08,392 ♪ 566 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,439 - Mr. Sherman, did you or did you not tell me 567 00:26:11,482 --> 00:26:14,747 Pastor Mike paid you to kill Emily Wade. 568 00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:17,097 - I did tell you that, 569 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:18,925 and I was lying because I wanted a deal. 570 00:26:18,968 --> 00:26:20,361 [overlapping chatter] 571 00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:22,319 - Quiet or I'll clear the gallery. 572 00:26:22,363 --> 00:26:26,454 - The truth is you're lying now out of some misguided 573 00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,151 sense of loyalty to your boss, aren't you? 574 00:26:28,195 --> 00:26:30,719 - I'm not lying. I'm telling the truth. 575 00:26:30,763 --> 00:26:32,547 - Sir, I remind you that if you violate the terms 576 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:34,462 of your plea agreement-- - Objection. 577 00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:37,334 Asked and answered. - I agree. 578 00:26:37,378 --> 00:26:40,468 Mr. Price, the witness' testimony 579 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:42,339 is very clear. 580 00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:47,780 - Nothing further. 581 00:26:47,823 --> 00:26:49,303 - Mr. Dressler? 582 00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:50,957 - No questions, Your Honor. 583 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,916 - The People request a brief recess. 584 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,657 - We're adjourned until tomorrow. 585 00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:57,398 [gavel thumps] 586 00:27:06,842 --> 00:27:09,497 - Rikers' Visitor Log shows Pastor Mike's attorney 587 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:11,455 went to visit Sherman in jail yesterday. 588 00:27:11,499 --> 00:27:15,111 Less than 24 hours later, Sherman sandbags us. 589 00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:16,678 It's witness tampering. 590 00:27:16,722 --> 00:27:18,811 - No doubt. 591 00:27:18,854 --> 00:27:20,769 But that's too hard to prove. 592 00:27:20,813 --> 00:27:22,641 We'll just have to make the case without him. 593 00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:30,953 - We were looking at calls coming into Pastor Mike 594 00:27:30,997 --> 00:27:32,999 the day of the murder, right? 595 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:34,348 - Yeah, I'm not following. 596 00:27:34,391 --> 00:27:36,916 - We know Sherman called Pastor Mike 597 00:27:36,959 --> 00:27:38,657 right after he killed Emily. 598 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,703 But according to this call log, Pastor Mike called someone else 599 00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:44,837 as soon as that conversation was finished. 600 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,056 - Let's find out who he called and what he said. 601 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,368 - As Senior Pastor of First Harmony, 602 00:27:54,411 --> 00:27:57,414 I don't have day-to-day involvement. 603 00:27:57,458 --> 00:28:01,854 I function strictly in an advisory capacity now. 604 00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:04,683 - Yes, but that capacity includes 605 00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:07,120 the provision of counsel to Pastor Mike, doesn't it? 606 00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:08,556 - It does. 607 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,081 - Does he typically call you in the evening? 608 00:28:12,125 --> 00:28:14,040 - He does not. - But he did call you 609 00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:16,390 December 14th at night. 610 00:28:16,433 --> 00:28:17,957 What did you two talk about? 611 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,872 - [chuckles] 612 00:28:19,915 --> 00:28:21,743 I'm a preacher. 613 00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:24,267 Conversations with my congregants are 614 00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:26,748 meant to be confidential. 615 00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:28,968 - A woman was murdered. 616 00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:30,883 Doesn't that trump confidentiality? 617 00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:34,234 ♪ 618 00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:38,629 - He called me on that night as his clergyman. 619 00:28:38,673 --> 00:28:42,633 He wanted to unburden his soul, 620 00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:46,507 which means the nature of that conversation 621 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:50,903 is protected under the laws of the State of New York. 622 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:55,603 - So just so I'm clear... 623 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:59,781 you're okay if a murderer walks free? 624 00:29:06,962 --> 00:29:11,967 - I'm not talking, fellas. Simple as that. 625 00:29:12,011 --> 00:29:17,407 ♪ 626 00:29:21,934 --> 00:29:22,108 . 627 00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:24,893 - Bryant is the whole ballgame. He has to testify. 628 00:29:24,937 --> 00:29:29,289 - But he's a clergyman. And he's right about the law. 629 00:29:29,332 --> 00:29:31,900 His conversation with the defendant is privileged. 630 00:29:31,944 --> 00:29:35,730 - Unless that privilege is in service of a crime or fraud. 631 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,297 - You're on dangerous ground, Nolan. 632 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:39,429 To prove that, you have to attack the church. 633 00:29:39,473 --> 00:29:41,083 I thought we agreed 634 00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:43,825 that we would make the case about the man not the religion. 635 00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:45,087 - I'm not going after religion. 636 00:29:45,131 --> 00:29:47,960 I'm going after a single corrupt preacher. 637 00:29:48,003 --> 00:29:49,744 - It'll read as blasphemy. 638 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,659 - Delegitimizing First Harmony 639 00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:54,183 is the only way to convict Pastor Mike. 640 00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:56,055 Otherwise, we may as well drop the charges. 641 00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:59,449 - If we lose this case, all people will remember 642 00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:01,756 is an over-zealous prosecutor 643 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,628 who vilified a church for no good reason. 644 00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:07,327 And that's all I'm going to remember too. 645 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:10,243 [dramatic music] 646 00:30:10,286 --> 00:30:13,768 - The mere suggestion this trial should devolve into 647 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:17,206 a referendum on the legitimacy of First Harmony is outrageous. 648 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:19,905 - I take the point. Mr. Price? 649 00:30:19,948 --> 00:30:24,126 - The People are aware of the sensitivities at play here. 650 00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:26,259 But we're only questioning that legitimacy 651 00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:29,436 for the limited purposes of a privilege inquiry. 652 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:32,308 - The phone call between Pastor Mike and Pastor Bryant 653 00:30:32,352 --> 00:30:35,616 was obviously for the purpose of seeking spiritual advice. 654 00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,313 - Presumptively for that purpose, 655 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:39,881 a presumption that can be overcome 656 00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:43,798 if we establish that the church is a corrupt enterprise. 657 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,931 - I share your concerns, Mr. Dressler, 658 00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,281 but this is a murder trial. 659 00:30:48,324 --> 00:30:50,936 So I'm gonna grant the People a limited opportunity 660 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:53,416 to demonstrate fraud. 661 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,332 And the defense will have the chance to rebut. 662 00:31:02,077 --> 00:31:06,908 - Mr. Conley, how much did you donate to First Harmony? 663 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:09,519 - $61,000 over three years. 664 00:31:09,563 --> 00:31:10,869 - And during that time, 665 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:13,741 did you experience any financial setbacks? 666 00:31:13,784 --> 00:31:16,744 - Yes. I lost my home, my car. 667 00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:18,398 Couldn't even pay the storage facility, 668 00:31:18,441 --> 00:31:19,878 so they sold my stuff. 669 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:23,229 - And yet you continued donating to First Harmony, right? 670 00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:24,665 - Yes. - Why? 671 00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:26,841 - Because Pastor Mike told me if I stopped giving, 672 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:29,322 it could jeopardize my relationship with God. 673 00:31:29,365 --> 00:31:32,238 - The money you donated-- do you know where it went? 674 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:34,327 - Yeah. His Tesla. 675 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:37,591 His mansion in Armonk. His catamaran. 676 00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:40,681 What Pastor needs a catamaran? 677 00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:42,901 - Nothing further. 678 00:31:46,426 --> 00:31:48,950 - Mr. Conley, 679 00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:51,735 are you currently a member of Gamblers Anonymous? 680 00:31:54,173 --> 00:31:55,478 - Yes. 681 00:31:55,522 --> 00:31:57,959 - And how much money have you lost gambling 682 00:31:58,003 --> 00:31:59,439 the past three years? 683 00:31:59,482 --> 00:32:01,180 - I don't remember. 684 00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:04,661 - Nearly $200,000. Is that right? 685 00:32:04,705 --> 00:32:06,446 - I guess. 686 00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:08,622 - So First Harmony isn't the real cause 687 00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:10,798 of your financial woes, is it? 688 00:32:10,841 --> 00:32:12,234 - Doesn't matter. 689 00:32:12,278 --> 00:32:14,541 That man over there stole from me. 690 00:32:14,584 --> 00:32:21,069 ♪ 691 00:32:21,113 --> 00:32:23,942 - Mr. Ballard, you're a recovering heroin addict. 692 00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:25,726 Is that right? - Recovered. 693 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:27,293 - That's amazing. 694 00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:30,383 And to what do you attribute your recovery? 695 00:32:30,426 --> 00:32:31,993 - Pastor Mike. 696 00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:35,127 He got me into a facility, paid for the program. 697 00:32:35,170 --> 00:32:36,911 Visited me every day for six weeks 698 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:38,391 to make sure I was doing the work. 699 00:32:38,434 --> 00:32:40,697 - Were you employed as a sales rep 700 00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,656 for Shearing Pharmaceuticals? 701 00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:45,006 - Yes, for four years. 702 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:46,616 I just got laid off. 703 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:49,402 - I'm sorry about that. And who got you that job? 704 00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:51,143 - Pastor Mike. 705 00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:52,796 - There's been testimony about 706 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,321 Pastor Mike's extravagant lifestyle. 707 00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:56,975 Are you familiar with how he lives? 708 00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,237 - Of course. 709 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,543 And it's a blessing to the congregation. 710 00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:03,111 - Do you believe First Harmony defrauded you in any way? 711 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,592 - No. As Pastor Mike likes to say, 712 00:33:05,635 --> 00:33:08,682 "When we invest in the church, we invest in ourselves." 713 00:33:08,725 --> 00:33:10,423 And I'm living proof that's true. 714 00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:12,033 - Thank you. 715 00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:15,950 - Mr. Ballard, 716 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,387 I'm very sorry about the loss of your sister. 717 00:33:18,431 --> 00:33:20,911 - Thank you. 718 00:33:20,955 --> 00:33:25,786 - Until a short time ago, what was your net worth? 719 00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:27,788 - About $40,000. 720 00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:29,833 - What's your net worth now? 721 00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:32,706 - Less than that. - In fact, it is zero. 722 00:33:32,749 --> 00:33:36,753 Because you donated every cent you had to First Harmony. 723 00:33:36,797 --> 00:33:38,146 - I'll make more. 724 00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,975 - How much have you given First Harmony 725 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:43,499 over the past four years? 726 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:44,805 - I don't remember. 727 00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:48,765 - Does almost $90,000 sound right? 728 00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:53,031 - I donated because that's the right thing to do. 729 00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:55,120 I owe Pastor Mike. I owe him. 730 00:33:55,163 --> 00:33:59,515 - Well, isn't it possible that the man you say you owe 731 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,604 turned you into a productive citizen 732 00:34:01,648 --> 00:34:04,694 in order to milk you of everything you earned? 733 00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:07,567 - No. Donating to your church is the right thing to do. 734 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:09,612 Pastor Mike deserves every penny I gave him. 735 00:34:09,656 --> 00:34:11,527 - Oh, you gave Pastor Mike your money? 736 00:34:11,571 --> 00:34:14,139 - No, no, I meant I-- I gave it to First Harm-- 737 00:34:14,181 --> 00:34:16,010 this man is trying to fool me! 738 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:17,751 - No, sir. 739 00:34:17,793 --> 00:34:21,710 I am not the one fooling you. 740 00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:24,062 Nothing further. 741 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:30,110 ♪ 742 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,460 - The parishioners who donated 743 00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:34,681 did so knowing that Pastor Mike was spending at least 744 00:34:34,724 --> 00:34:37,161 some of the money on himself. 745 00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:39,728 No one was threatened or coerced. 746 00:34:39,773 --> 00:34:44,125 They donated for inspiration, which is exactly what they got. 747 00:34:44,168 --> 00:34:49,348 Pastor Mike's success was a beacon to his parish, 748 00:34:49,391 --> 00:34:52,132 which is all that the prosperity gospel entails. 749 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:54,483 You get the benefit of your bargain, 750 00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:58,052 it can't be fraud. 751 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:01,142 - Mr. Price? 752 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:06,930 - Fraud needn't be a function of deceit or coercion. 753 00:35:06,974 --> 00:35:08,628 It can also be manipulation 754 00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:11,239 by a person in a position of trust, 755 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:15,156 such as a pastor who tells his flock 756 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,507 that their relationship with God will be compromised 757 00:35:18,551 --> 00:35:21,684 if they don't give money to the church. 758 00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:24,209 These donations were part of a shameless money grab 759 00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:27,212 by a charismatic and manipulative figure 760 00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:30,084 in a position of control and power. 761 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:33,914 The defendant concealed these cash contributions from the IRS 762 00:35:33,957 --> 00:35:35,916 and used the money he received 763 00:35:35,959 --> 00:35:38,397 to finance his opulent lifestyle. 764 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,141 That is not religion. That's fraud. 765 00:35:51,061 --> 00:35:54,500 - I agree with Mr. Price. 766 00:35:54,543 --> 00:35:59,244 And since the defense did not rebut his claims, 767 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,638 I am vitiating the clergy privilege. 768 00:36:02,682 --> 00:36:09,645 ♪ 769 00:36:15,216 --> 00:36:18,219 - Mr. Price. 770 00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:20,003 Why you doing this? - Excuse me? 771 00:36:20,047 --> 00:36:22,180 - Trying to destroy my church. 772 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,660 - No, I can assure you, that is not my objective. 773 00:36:24,704 --> 00:36:26,619 - You're acting like we don't know what we're doing, 774 00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:28,925 that Pastor Mike is trying to defraud us. 775 00:36:28,969 --> 00:36:31,450 That's not what's going on here. 776 00:36:31,493 --> 00:36:33,800 We know what we're doing. We want to give him our money. 777 00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:37,804 - That is your choice. I--I don't really care. 778 00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:39,980 I'm simply trying to present the facts to the jury 779 00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:41,895 so they know what really happened-- 780 00:36:41,938 --> 00:36:44,245 so they know who really killed Emily, your sister. 781 00:36:44,289 --> 00:36:45,942 I-I would've thought that's something 782 00:36:45,986 --> 00:36:47,117 you might be interested in as well. 783 00:36:47,161 --> 00:36:49,032 - Don't do that. 784 00:36:49,076 --> 00:36:53,036 Don't you dare suggest that I don't love my sister Emily. 785 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,257 I do. More than anything. 786 00:36:56,301 --> 00:36:57,432 But she's gone. 787 00:36:57,476 --> 00:36:59,434 Ain't nothing we can do about that. 788 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:00,827 And nothing you could do to convince me 789 00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:02,524 that Pastor Mike is involved. 790 00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:05,048 - I won't bother trying. - Wait, wait. 791 00:37:05,092 --> 00:37:07,181 [stammers] 792 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:10,750 I'm just scared. 793 00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:15,058 If you destroy Pastor Mike and my church... 794 00:37:17,539 --> 00:37:20,629 I'm left with absolutely nothing. 795 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:27,419 Please. 796 00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:43,870 - Pastor Mike Butler 797 00:37:43,913 --> 00:37:47,743 called you at 9:14 on the evening of Emily Wade's murder. 798 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:52,618 - He did. - And what did he tell you? 799 00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:03,803 - He told me he wanted to pray with me 800 00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:07,285 because he had transgressed. 801 00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:15,641 - Did he tell you exactly what the transgression was? 802 00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:18,208 - This is not right. 803 00:38:18,252 --> 00:38:21,168 That conversation was sacred. 804 00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:22,343 - Pastor Bryant-- 805 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:25,477 - Only God should know the contents. 806 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,394 - Will the court please instruct the witness to answer? 807 00:38:29,437 --> 00:38:32,135 - Pastor Bryant, the court has ruled 808 00:38:32,179 --> 00:38:34,137 clergy privilege does not apply here. 809 00:38:34,181 --> 00:38:35,791 - Oh. - If you don't answer, 810 00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:37,445 I will have to hold you in contempt. 811 00:38:37,489 --> 00:38:39,186 Do you understand that? 812 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:42,929 ♪ 813 00:38:42,972 --> 00:38:44,191 - Yes. 814 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:47,847 - Ask your question again, Mr. Price. 815 00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:50,980 - I'll make it a simple yes or no question. 816 00:38:51,024 --> 00:38:53,896 Did the defendant tell you 817 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:58,205 that he had instructed Mr. Sherman to kill Emily Wade? 818 00:38:58,248 --> 00:39:03,950 ♪ 819 00:39:03,993 --> 00:39:05,343 - Yes. 820 00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:08,476 [crowd gasps, murmurs] 821 00:39:21,446 --> 00:39:24,710 - Nothing further. 822 00:39:24,753 --> 00:39:26,973 - Then we are adjourned for the day. 823 00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:28,931 [gavel thumps] 824 00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:33,936 - Man one, 20 max. 825 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:36,809 - Murder two, 20 to life. 826 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:45,339 - I'll start drafting the plea agreement. 827 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:49,299 - I'll, um, talk to Emily's brother, 828 00:39:49,343 --> 00:39:51,693 let him know the case is over. 829 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:00,267 [knocking on door] 830 00:40:02,225 --> 00:40:03,662 Lonnie? [knocking] 831 00:40:03,705 --> 00:40:06,708 It's Nolan Price from the DA's office. 832 00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:11,800 Hello, Lonnie? [knocks] 833 00:40:11,844 --> 00:40:14,716 [tense music] 834 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:20,548 [doorknob rattles, clicks] 835 00:40:23,377 --> 00:40:26,206 Oh, no. Lonnie? 836 00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:28,904 Lonnie. 837 00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:31,211 Lonnie? Lonnie? 838 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:32,734 Lonnie? Oh, God. 839 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:36,695 [line ringing] 840 00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:39,393 Yeah, I-I need an ambulance. [stammers] 841 00:40:39,437 --> 00:40:41,830 435 Warshaw, Queens. Apartment 4B. 842 00:40:41,874 --> 00:40:44,572 He's overdosed. I need help right away. 843 00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:49,882 Lonnie? Lonnie, stay with me. 844 00:40:49,925 --> 00:40:52,885 [grunting] 845 00:40:52,928 --> 00:40:57,585 ♪ 846 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:34,622 [wolf howls]