1 00:00:00,896 --> 00:00:02,843 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,899 --> 00:00:06,870 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,937 --> 00:00:08,815 the police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,873 --> 00:00:11,251 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,309 --> 00:00:13,256 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,246 --> 00:00:17,160 He's got it in for me is all I'm sayin'. He don't got it in for you. 7 00:00:17,217 --> 00:00:19,163 He's startin' to make me look bad to Hector. 8 00:00:19,219 --> 00:00:21,757 Hector's smart enough to see that Alex is just talkin' trash. 9 00:00:21,822 --> 00:00:24,736 All due respect to Hector, I got my doubts. 10 00:00:24,793 --> 00:00:27,797 Just once I'd like to come in here without some jerkweed causing a dustup. 11 00:00:27,863 --> 00:00:29,935 Yeah, this stuffs gettin' old. 12 00:00:33,470 --> 00:00:35,472 Whoa! This guy's hurt bad. 13 00:00:35,539 --> 00:00:38,350 - Get some help. - Somebody call 911! 14 00:00:39,777 --> 00:00:42,315 Thirty-five years my family owns this place. 15 00:00:42,381 --> 00:00:44,520 Plenty of fights, but nobody ever got killed. 16 00:00:44,583 --> 00:00:46,586 You see what happened? I hear shouts. 17 00:00:46,653 --> 00:00:50,294 I look over. I see one guy swing a bottle, and the other guy goes down. 18 00:00:50,357 --> 00:00:52,804 The guy who was swinging what did he look like? 19 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:54,806 Kind of average. Height, weight, age? 20 00:00:54,862 --> 00:00:59,779 Middle-aged. Brown hair. An inch or two shy of six feet, maybe. You know, average. 21 00:00:59,836 --> 00:01:02,612 Any of you seen this average dude in here before? Nope. 22 00:01:02,672 --> 00:01:05,916 First-timers, the two of them. The other guy, the one who got his head cracked? 23 00:01:05,976 --> 00:01:08,548 I could swear I seen him somewhere before. Me too. 24 00:01:08,613 --> 00:01:10,559 But not in here? Nah. 25 00:01:10,615 --> 00:01:13,893 Anybody see how it started? I... I... It was like all of a sudden, out of the blue. 26 00:01:13,953 --> 00:01:17,424 This one guy starts bashing the other guy's head in. 27 00:01:17,491 --> 00:01:20,335 - I tried to tackle him, but... - That's how you got the eye? 28 00:01:20,394 --> 00:01:22,602 He was a lot stronger than he looked. All right. 29 00:01:22,664 --> 00:01:25,144 Be sure to give your home number to the officer. 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,647 So, what do we got? Depressed skull fracture. 31 00:01:27,703 --> 00:01:30,480 Glass shards in the wound. Victim was struck with a blunt object. 32 00:01:30,540 --> 00:01:32,611 Yeah, a liquor bottle. Your murder weapon. 33 00:01:32,676 --> 00:01:35,556 - Or what's left of it. - Maybe Latent can get a print anyway 34 00:01:35,613 --> 00:01:38,150 Have C.S.U.gather as much of that as they can. 35 00:01:38,216 --> 00:01:41,926 You'd be better off with all the king's horses and all the king's men. 36 00:01:46,926 --> 00:01:50,500 Brendan Donner. I thought he looked familiar. 37 00:01:50,564 --> 00:01:53,273 Not to me. I'm drawin' a blank. Who is he? 38 00:01:53,335 --> 00:01:55,872 Public Enemy Number One, at least in this city. 39 00:01:55,937 --> 00:01:58,976 League Championship Series... this dude goes for a foul ball 40 00:01:59,041 --> 00:02:01,818 Cost us the game and the pennant. We're talking about baseball? 41 00:02:01,878 --> 00:02:05,656 Yeah. Instead of being the third out, the batter draws a walk. 42 00:02:05,717 --> 00:02:09,962 Next guy up hits a two-run homer, and it's wait till next year, again. 43 00:02:10,022 --> 00:02:12,730 - Looks like somebody was pissed off about waitin'. - Wait a minute. 44 00:02:12,791 --> 00:02:15,705 You're telling me this guy got killed 'cause he reached for a foul ball? 45 00:02:15,762 --> 00:02:18,835 And the suspect list is the Greater New York phone book. 46 00:03:11,330 --> 00:03:14,106 I can't believe somebody killed him over a stupid game. 47 00:03:14,167 --> 00:03:17,274 We 're not sure yet that that's why your husband was murdered Mrs. Donner. 48 00:03:17,337 --> 00:03:21,377 But it's a pretty good bet, right? I mean, what other reason could there be? 49 00:03:21,443 --> 00:03:24,323 People treated Brendan like he was Osama Bin Laden. 50 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:27,884 As if any one of them wouldn't have tried to catch that damn ball. 51 00:03:27,950 --> 00:03:30,522 Did you take any of those threats more seriously than others? 52 00:03:30,587 --> 00:03:33,831 I mean, is there anyone in particular we should be looking at? 53 00:03:33,891 --> 00:03:37,897 Just half of New York. Poor Brendan. He was obsessed. 54 00:03:37,963 --> 00:03:42,208 He read every letter, surfed the Internet, uh, 55 00:03:42,268 --> 00:03:44,475 watched all the talk shows. 56 00:03:44,537 --> 00:03:49,317 I'm telling you something. That game ruined our lives. 57 00:03:49,376 --> 00:03:52,324 We'd like to look through your husband's things, if we could. 58 00:03:52,381 --> 00:03:56,023 Well, we separated four months ago. He moved out. 59 00:03:56,085 --> 00:03:59,192 Said there was no reason why I should take the brunt for what he did. 60 00:03:59,256 --> 00:04:00,894 Sorry. 61 00:04:00,958 --> 00:04:03,199 We're gonna need to get into his new place. 62 00:04:08,434 --> 00:04:13,077 The papers should publish separate listings for the soon-to-be divorced 63 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:17,385 Available, crappy studio apartment with view of air shaft. 64 00:04:17,445 --> 00:04:19,652 Emphasis on shaft. 65 00:04:19,714 --> 00:04:22,525 Also excellent for sleepless nights and drinking binges. 66 00:04:22,584 --> 00:04:24,530 And reading your hate mail. 67 00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:28,125 “Dear Jagoff, I've been replaying the game in my mind, and I still don't know... 68 00:04:28,191 --> 00:04:31,036 what the hell you were thinking, you dumb-ass son of a bitch.“ 69 00:04:31,095 --> 00:04:34,134 - Oh, that's quality bedtime reading. - His wife said he was obsessed. 70 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:36,736 There's no forwarding labels on these They were sent here. 71 00:04:36,802 --> 00:04:39,443 Wonder how they got his new address so quick. 72 00:04:39,505 --> 00:04:42,953 Hmm. Maybe he can tell us. 73 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:47,892 “Special Agent Jeffrey Bowerman, F.B.I." 74 00:04:47,949 --> 00:04:50,862 Donner was gettin' death threats from all over the country. 75 00:04:50,919 --> 00:04:53,867 People mailin' him dead rats, dog crap, you name it. 76 00:04:53,923 --> 00:04:56,063 When you care enough to send the very worst. 77 00:04:56,126 --> 00:04:58,163 The worst was the envelope full of white powder. 78 00:04:58,228 --> 00:05:00,732 Ah, we were wondering why the F.B.I. was involved in this. 79 00:05:00,798 --> 00:05:04,804 Standard procedure for all cases involving a suspected biological contaminant. 80 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:07,441 Which this wasn't. Baking soda isn't lethal. 81 00:05:07,506 --> 00:05:09,817 Oh, you never met my ex-wife. 82 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:15,691 We went ahead and seized all the letters, cards and packages anyway, cataloged 'em. 83 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:18,594 Wow. A lot of people with too much time on their hands, huh? 84 00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:21,566 We've got audio too. I tapped Donner's phone just to be safe. 85 00:05:21,623 --> 00:05:23,729 For a case like this? I felt sorry for him. 86 00:05:23,793 --> 00:05:25,864 Wanted to go the extra mile, help the guy out. 87 00:05:25,928 --> 00:05:28,808 You bet the other team. Made out like a bandit. 88 00:05:28,866 --> 00:05:32,371 Donner may have been a schmuck to you guys, but he was a hero to us. 89 00:05:33,571 --> 00:05:37,349 Sketch artist came up with a composite of our suspect. 90 00:05:37,409 --> 00:05:39,822 Could be anybody. How are you doing? 91 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,759 I'm reading Donner's hate mail. Ed's listening to it. 92 00:05:42,816 --> 00:05:44,763 Anything interesting? 93 00:05:44,819 --> 00:05:47,891 Ah, they either want to dump him in the East River, throw him off a building... 94 00:05:47,955 --> 00:05:50,163 or run him over with a car... not much originality. 95 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:52,637 What would you have done to him? Who, me? 96 00:05:52,694 --> 00:05:55,676 Oh, please. I remember how mad you were after that game. 97 00:05:55,732 --> 00:05:58,509 And I don't recall any tears from “Who, me"... 98 00:05:58,569 --> 00:06:01,881 when the tabloids published Donner's address and phone number. 99 00:06:01,940 --> 00:06:03,920 Okay. Maybe that was a little bit over the line. 100 00:06:03,975 --> 00:06:06,820 But the idiot did earn himself a little grief. 101 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:10,589 - He tried to catch a ball. - Which was still in play! 102 00:06:10,651 --> 00:06:13,530 Any real New York fan would've kept his hands in his pockets. 103 00:06:13,587 --> 00:06:17,331 Hey, I got something. This is from two weeks ago. 104 00:06:17,392 --> 00:06:19,498 You think I don't know where you live, Donner? 105 00:06:19,562 --> 00:06:22,042 You better be watching your back, Donner, 'cause one day soon... 106 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:27,605 I'm comin' up behind you and bash your thick head until you're dead, you moron. 107 00:06:27,671 --> 00:06:31,848 - The F.B.I. traced that call to a Ted Enwright. - Sounds promising. 108 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:34,584 And the genius called from his home phone. 109 00:06:35,581 --> 00:06:38,153 We lost half our pitchers to free agency. 110 00:06:38,218 --> 00:06:42,099 Then there's that whole steroid thing. Who knows how that's gonna play out? 111 00:06:42,156 --> 00:06:46,469 Nah, let's face it. Last year was our best shot, and Donner blew it. 112 00:06:46,528 --> 00:06:49,976 So, after stewing about this all winter, you decided it was time for some payback. 113 00:06:50,032 --> 00:06:52,876 All I did was get drunk one night and make a phone call. And a couple nights later, 114 00:06:52,935 --> 00:06:56,247 Donner gets drunk, and he gets his head smashed in, as you promised. 115 00:06:56,306 --> 00:06:58,913 - Come on. That was just talk. - How did you get his phone number? 116 00:06:58,977 --> 00:07:01,253 I read it in the papers. No, his new number. 117 00:07:01,312 --> 00:07:03,759 On the Net. Everything's on the Net. 118 00:07:03,816 --> 00:07:08,698 www.getdonner.com. 119 00:07:09,689 --> 00:07:13,035 - You've got to be kidding me. - We don't have that much imagination. 120 00:07:13,094 --> 00:07:16,304 Six months after the fact, this Web site still gets 30,000 hits a day 121 00:07:16,365 --> 00:07:19,608 Most of this stuff is harmless, you know, stupid Donner jokes and whatnot. 122 00:07:19,668 --> 00:07:22,013 But check it out. They have a message board. 123 00:07:22,071 --> 00:07:24,051 “Hey fellow Donner haters. 124 00:07:24,107 --> 00:07:27,681 "Think I just saw Donner shoving his stuff in the back of a moving van. 125 00:07:27,745 --> 00:07:30,124 Guess his old lady hates him as much as the rest of us." 126 00:07:30,181 --> 00:07:35,063 Now, this entry started a landslide. People started writin' in whenever they saw Donner on the street or in the subway. 127 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:39,264 They call it “Donner Watch." Which is how they knew where to keep sending all the hate mail. 128 00:07:39,326 --> 00:07:43,241 I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but I'm actually startin' to feel real sorry for this dude. 129 00:07:43,297 --> 00:07:47,007 Hey, we were one out away from the World Series. 130 00:07:47,069 --> 00:07:50,778 Yo. All right. All right, we'll be there. 131 00:07:51,941 --> 00:07:54,683 It's the crime lab. They got prints. 132 00:07:54,744 --> 00:07:57,419 If I were you guys, I'd steer clear of Latent for a while. 133 00:07:57,481 --> 00:08:00,395 Why? They don't see the challenge in lifting prints off a broken bottle? 134 00:08:00,452 --> 00:08:02,398 Any prints shattered along with the glass, 135 00:08:02,454 --> 00:08:04,628 so they're fragmented like a jigsaw puzzle. 136 00:08:04,691 --> 00:08:07,365 You guys like jigsaw puzzles? I love jigsaw puzzles. 137 00:08:07,427 --> 00:08:10,375 Wanna know how I solved this one? That is why we're here. 138 00:08:10,431 --> 00:08:12,377 I bought a bottle of the same brand of scotch, 139 00:08:12,433 --> 00:08:15,005 filled it with plaster, then broke it, leaving a perfect mold. 140 00:08:15,070 --> 00:08:18,018 Then I took the glass from the crime scene and glued it on that mold... 141 00:08:18,074 --> 00:08:20,577 putting each piece in its proper place. 142 00:08:20,643 --> 00:08:23,488 - Voilà. - Just like a jigsaw puzzle. 143 00:08:23,547 --> 00:08:26,119 With the bottle now reconstituted... You could lift the prints. 144 00:08:26,184 --> 00:08:28,755 Two sets. I ran them through B.C.I. 145 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:32,769 - The first belong to a Rooney, James. - The bartender. 146 00:08:32,825 --> 00:08:36,399 And owner. His prints are on file from when he applied for a liquor license. 147 00:08:36,463 --> 00:08:39,877 What about the second set? B.C.I. kicked back a Grimes, Walter. 148 00:08:39,934 --> 00:08:42,278 Walter Grimes? Mm-hmm. Here's the best part. 149 00:08:42,336 --> 00:08:45,841 Yeah. Convicted of murder, second degree, in the killing of a young girl. 150 00:08:45,907 --> 00:08:48,718 Drew 25 to life at Green Haven. Yeah. How'd you know? 151 00:08:48,778 --> 00:08:50,724 He reads the front page of the Times. 152 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:53,955 Walter Grimes was released from prison three months ago. 153 00:08:56,488 --> 00:08:59,560 “Walter Grimes, born Poughkeepsie,1964. 154 00:08:59,624 --> 00:09:03,300 Arrested '83. Convicted '84. Second-degree murder." 155 00:09:03,362 --> 00:09:06,742 Victim was Leeanne Testa, 15. Stabbed to death. 156 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,647 A year ago, when Grimes finally got a court order to test the D.N.A., 157 00:09:10,705 --> 00:09:14,779 it turned out the blood that the cops found on the knife in his apartment wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 158 00:09:14,843 --> 00:09:19,259 - Property still had the evidence? - M.E.'s office. This is pre-D.N.A. 159 00:09:19,315 --> 00:09:22,820 They tested it for serology. After the trial, it went to the medical examiner's... 160 00:09:22,887 --> 00:09:24,867 and never made it back to the police lab. 161 00:09:24,922 --> 00:09:29,030 It's lucky for Grimes. Police lab would've destroyed it after he got convicted. 162 00:09:29,094 --> 00:09:32,770 So, Grimes didn't kill Testa. Good for him. 163 00:09:32,832 --> 00:09:35,005 Question is, did he kill Brendan Donner? 164 00:09:35,067 --> 00:09:37,878 Grimes's prints are a 12-point match to the ones on that liquor bottle. 165 00:09:37,938 --> 00:09:40,647 There are eight people in that bar who I.D.'d him from a photo array. 166 00:09:40,708 --> 00:09:42,813 They all saw him bash Donner's skull in. 167 00:09:42,877 --> 00:09:44,824 I'll get an arrest warrant. 168 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,588 We have any idea where Mr. Grimes is now? 169 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:50,222 Department of Corrections can't compel him to give an address... 170 00:09:50,287 --> 00:09:52,767 because he was exonerated and not paroled. 171 00:09:52,823 --> 00:09:55,532 Grimes a jailhouse lawyer, or did he have some help? 172 00:09:55,593 --> 00:09:59,508 Rodney Fallon... the New York Exoneration Project. 173 00:09:59,565 --> 00:10:03,104 Well, I'm sure Mr. Fallon keeps in touch with his success stories. 174 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:09,118 So far, the New York Exoneration Project has gotten... 175 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:12,488 almost 50 innocent people released, and we're looking at hundreds of other cases. 176 00:10:12,547 --> 00:10:14,652 And I'll bet each and every one of 'em didn't do it. 177 00:10:14,716 --> 00:10:17,027 Obviously they're not all innocent. 178 00:10:17,086 --> 00:10:19,658 But if even a single one is, don't you think it's our obligation... 179 00:10:19,723 --> 00:10:22,033 to see to it they don't spend a minute longer in jail? 180 00:10:22,092 --> 00:10:24,164 I bet you can count the number of guys in jail .. 181 00:10:24,229 --> 00:10:26,334 Who are genuinely innocent on one hand. 182 00:10:26,397 --> 00:10:28,469 You know how many felonies the average criminal commits... 183 00:10:28,534 --> 00:10:30,480 before he gets caught, let alone convicted? 184 00:10:30,536 --> 00:10:33,916 I'm well aware of the police statistics. It's about the same as the number of times... 185 00:10:33,974 --> 00:10:36,147 you speed on the thruway without getting a ticket. 186 00:10:36,209 --> 00:10:40,420 So what you're saying, Detective, we shouldn't try to exonerate defendants who were wrongly convicted? 187 00:10:40,481 --> 00:10:43,224 Yeah, sure we should try. But just don't tell me they're all innocent. 188 00:10:43,285 --> 00:10:46,563 Gentlemen, can we talk about Walter Grimes, please? 189 00:10:46,623 --> 00:10:48,796 An outright travesty of justice. 190 00:10:48,858 --> 00:10:52,830 His lawyer was a 25-year-old Legal Aid attorney trying his third case. 191 00:10:52,897 --> 00:10:56,812 Well, he caught a bad break. That alone should've got him a new trial. 192 00:10:56,868 --> 00:10:59,406 D.N.A. proved he didn't kill Leeanne Testa. 193 00:10:59,472 --> 00:11:01,952 Which won't happen this time. Look, we may not have D.N.A., 194 00:11:02,008 --> 00:11:06,515 but we got your client's fingerprints on the bottle he used to fracture Brendan Donner's skull. 195 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:09,255 We don't know what happened that night. Maybe Walter was defending himself. 196 00:11:09,317 --> 00:11:13,232 - Why don't we ask him ourselves? - Yeah, where can we find him? We got a warrant for his arrest. 197 00:11:13,289 --> 00:11:15,235 I'd rather you didn't speak to Walter if I'm not present. 198 00:11:15,291 --> 00:11:17,738 What, are you still his lawyer? If you have a warrant, I am. 199 00:11:17,794 --> 00:11:20,798 Then you know that you have an obligation to surrender your client. 200 00:11:20,865 --> 00:11:23,539 I know what my obligations are. 201 00:11:23,601 --> 00:11:26,242 Then you won't mind giving us his address. 202 00:11:30,977 --> 00:11:33,787 Open up! 203 00:11:33,846 --> 00:11:35,952 Hey, you hear that? I don't hear nothin'. 204 00:11:36,016 --> 00:11:39,794 Yeah, it sounded like a plaintive cry for help coming from this apartment. 205 00:11:39,854 --> 00:11:42,802 Open the door. If you say so. 206 00:11:44,427 --> 00:11:46,373 Mr. Grimes? 207 00:11:47,464 --> 00:11:49,466 He ain't here. 208 00:11:49,533 --> 00:11:52,344 Hey, Ed, you always leave your phone book out? 209 00:11:52,403 --> 00:11:55,407 Only if I've been using it. Yeah. 210 00:11:55,473 --> 00:12:00,424 There's an old P.I. trick. If you had it open to a certain page, it bends the spine. 211 00:12:01,414 --> 00:12:04,122 It'll open there. 212 00:12:04,184 --> 00:12:06,791 Hotels. Some cheaper than others. 213 00:12:06,854 --> 00:12:10,826 Where do we start? At the bottom and work our way up, I guess. 214 00:12:15,498 --> 00:12:18,742 Oh, yeah. I remember this guy. He was here. 215 00:12:18,802 --> 00:12:23,218 Uh, was? Checked out earlier today. About 4:00 this afternoon. 216 00:12:23,274 --> 00:12:25,447 Six hours ago. Now that's a hell of a coincidence. 217 00:12:25,510 --> 00:12:27,889 No wonder Fallon gave up Grimes's address so easy. 218 00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:29,893 Yeah, he knew Grimes wasn't gonna be home. 219 00:12:29,949 --> 00:12:32,590 He drops a dime to his favorite client as soon as we're out the door. 220 00:12:32,652 --> 00:12:35,964 Lawyers. This is me being surprised. 221 00:12:36,024 --> 00:12:38,595 You asked me where Walter lived I gave you his primary address. 222 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:42,040 Hey, man don't get smart with us! I wouldn't dream of it. You couldn't keep up. 223 00:12:42,097 --> 00:12:44,544 All right. Let's all just take it down a notch. 224 00:12:44,601 --> 00:12:48,242 Mr. Fallon, this is way past zealous representation here. 225 00:12:48,304 --> 00:12:51,809 I can't tell you where he went. It's arguably privileged information. 226 00:12:51,876 --> 00:12:55,654 Well, consider it negotiating a fugitive's peaceful surrender. 227 00:12:58,484 --> 00:13:01,397 - I'll get him to come in. - Not a chance. 228 00:13:01,454 --> 00:13:04,959 I have no idea what he's capable of if he feels threatened. 229 00:13:05,025 --> 00:13:08,473 I... I can do this. He trusts me. 230 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:11,307 All right. You've got two hours. 231 00:13:11,367 --> 00:13:13,472 Either we're going to arrest him for murder... 232 00:13:13,536 --> 00:13:16,177 or you for hindering prosecution. 233 00:13:17,407 --> 00:13:19,410 He'll be here. I promise. 234 00:13:24,116 --> 00:13:26,790 Tell me you didn't just agree to what I think you just agreed to. 235 00:13:26,852 --> 00:13:28,799 Please. 236 00:13:30,957 --> 00:13:34,098 I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. 237 00:13:34,161 --> 00:13:36,232 How long's Fallon been in there? 238 00:13:36,297 --> 00:13:38,244 Forty-five minutes. 239 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,942 That's long enough to either talk Grimes down or book him a flight to Brazil. 240 00:13:42,004 --> 00:13:44,143 That's right. Let's go. 241 00:13:55,287 --> 00:13:58,929 Someone, help! 242 00:13:58,992 --> 00:14:01,700 Mr. Fallon, looks like you put up a hell of a fight. 243 00:14:01,762 --> 00:14:03,709 Yeah. Where's your client? 244 00:14:03,764 --> 00:14:06,267 And the first words out of your mouth better not be “privileged.” 245 00:14:06,334 --> 00:14:08,406 He's not here! I can see that. 246 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:11,007 So where is he? You said you weren't going to interfere. 247 00:14:11,073 --> 00:14:13,020 You said you were gonna bring Grimes in. 248 00:14:13,076 --> 00:14:15,420 Looks like we both failed on our promises. 249 00:14:15,478 --> 00:14:18,483 I tried to convince him to surrender to the authorities for his own good, 250 00:14:18,549 --> 00:14:20,530 but he was in no mood to go back to prison. 251 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:22,531 How long has he been gone? About 10 minutes. 252 00:14:22,587 --> 00:14:27,628 Did he say where he was going? And don't forget what we said about that word “privilege.” 253 00:14:30,030 --> 00:14:33,774 He took my wallet. Said he needed to get to his cousin's in Providence. 254 00:14:45,682 --> 00:14:48,664 Hey! Police! Don't move! 255 00:14:48,719 --> 00:14:51,792 Grimes, hold it right there! 256 00:14:51,857 --> 00:14:54,463 Stop right there! Grimes! Take it easy. 257 00:14:54,526 --> 00:14:57,997 - All right. - I'm not going back there! I'll die before I go back there. 258 00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:00,545 Just let the lady go. 259 00:15:00,601 --> 00:15:04,516 - Keep away from me. - Let's talk this over. Look, no gun. 260 00:15:04,573 --> 00:15:07,747 Okay? Look, I know you were innocent before. 261 00:15:07,809 --> 00:15:10,086 I just want to talk to you. Let the lady go, please. 262 00:15:10,146 --> 00:15:12,183 All right? Just let her go and we can talk. 263 00:15:12,248 --> 00:15:16,061 It's over, man. Let her go, Grimes. Now. 264 00:15:21,025 --> 00:15:22,972 I can't go back there. 265 00:15:24,463 --> 00:15:26,410 I can't. 266 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:33,179 Judge Hinkle didn't think twice about remanding Grimes. 267 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,085 After holding a woman hostage, I should hope not. 268 00:15:38,380 --> 00:15:40,327 Rodney Fallon. Pleasure. 269 00:15:41,384 --> 00:15:43,456 I don't think Mr. Grimes is eligible... 270 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,831 for the Exoneration Project's services this time, Mr. Fallon. 271 00:15:46,891 --> 00:15:50,169 Well, I don't see why he wouldn't be. Walter is innocent. 272 00:15:50,228 --> 00:15:54,439 Then can he explain his fingerprints on the murder weapon and the eyewitnesses at the bar? 273 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:58,244 Or his behavior when he saw two N.Y.P.D. detectives? 274 00:15:58,305 --> 00:16:01,253 Taking a hostage isn't exactly consistent with innocence. 275 00:16:01,309 --> 00:16:03,949 Well, that depends on how you define innocence. 276 00:16:04,012 --> 00:16:07,392 I define an innocent person as someone who didn't commit the crime. 277 00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:11,227 Or someone whom the law recognizes should not be held responsible for his actions. 278 00:16:11,288 --> 00:16:15,396 A defendant can't be convicted if he didn't act with mens rea... criminal intent. 279 00:16:15,459 --> 00:16:17,769 He brained a man with a liquor bottle. 280 00:16:17,828 --> 00:16:21,971 Walter Grimes was convicted of a crime he didn't commit. 281 00:16:22,034 --> 00:16:25,107 If he hadn't gone to prison for 20 years, as an innocent man, 282 00:16:25,171 --> 00:16:27,118 he never would have attacked Brendan Donner. 283 00:16:27,174 --> 00:16:29,950 What are you saying? Prison made him do it? 284 00:16:30,010 --> 00:16:32,924 It certainly changed him. Profoundly. 285 00:16:32,981 --> 00:16:35,587 He absolutely wasn't the same man when he came out. 286 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:37,756 I'm sorry the system failed you, Mr. Grimes, 287 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:43,100 but a wrongful conviction does not earn anyone a free pass on murder. 288 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,732 You're sorry? 289 00:16:45,797 --> 00:16:50,110 How about before rushing to judgment again you at least have your shrink evaluate him? 290 00:16:51,537 --> 00:16:55,315 There's no reason to be anxious. We're just having a conversation. 291 00:16:55,375 --> 00:16:59,222 I ain't anxious. What makes you think I'm anxious? 292 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,556 Do you know why you're here? 293 00:17:01,615 --> 00:17:04,688 My lawyer says because of what happened to me in prison. 294 00:17:04,753 --> 00:17:06,700 I lose control. 295 00:17:06,756 --> 00:17:08,758 What do you think? 296 00:17:08,825 --> 00:17:12,933 I spent 20 years in prison for something that I didn't do! I don't have control over nothin'! 297 00:17:14,031 --> 00:17:15,978 How can I lose what I don't have? 298 00:17:17,035 --> 00:17:19,642 You're talking about Leeanne Testa's murder. 299 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:24,382 Of course that's what I'm taikin' about. The police said I killed that girl. I'd never even met her. 300 00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:28,359 They found a bloody knife in your apartment with your fingerprints on it. 301 00:17:28,416 --> 00:17:30,657 They planted that knife. 302 00:17:30,718 --> 00:17:32,790 The police? Yeah, the police. 303 00:17:32,855 --> 00:17:35,699 I had an alibi. They didn't believe me. 304 00:17:37,494 --> 00:17:40,407 But this time, you did kill someone. 305 00:17:40,463 --> 00:17:42,410 You killed Brendan Donner. 306 00:17:44,235 --> 00:17:46,716 He laid hands on me. 307 00:17:46,772 --> 00:17:49,116 And that justified killing him? 308 00:17:50,376 --> 00:17:53,323 I bumped into him, by accident. 309 00:17:53,379 --> 00:17:55,519 But this guy, he gets all freaky on me. 310 00:17:55,582 --> 00:17:58,996 In my face, tellin' me the whole world's against him. 311 00:17:59,054 --> 00:18:03,435 And you thought hitting him with a bottle was an appropriate response? 312 00:18:03,492 --> 00:18:07,338 I didn't think about it. He grabbed me. 313 00:18:07,396 --> 00:18:10,810 A guy comes at you, you don't think twice. You just put him down. 314 00:18:10,867 --> 00:18:13,872 You stop to think about what to do, you're dead. 315 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:20,813 Walter Grimes is legally sane. But? 316 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,726 But I'm sure his lawyer can find experts who will say that his experience in prison... 317 00:18:24,784 --> 00:18:27,129 so programmed him that he lacked the ability... 318 00:18:27,188 --> 00:18:29,498 to appreciate that his conduct was wrong. 319 00:18:29,557 --> 00:18:33,301 It turned him into a killer? Well, they'll argue that he couldn't differentiate... 320 00:18:33,361 --> 00:18:36,775 between his old environment and his new one. 321 00:18:36,833 --> 00:18:39,246 He couldn't tell the difference between Rooney's Tavern... 322 00:18:39,303 --> 00:18:41,249 and the exercise yard at Green Haven? 323 00:18:41,305 --> 00:18:44,617 Exactly. The defense will get a gaggle of psychiatrists... 324 00:18:44,676 --> 00:18:49,092 to say that Grimes lacked the ability to curtail a lethal instinct... 325 00:18:49,148 --> 00:18:51,652 developed by two decades in prison. 326 00:18:56,124 --> 00:19:00,596 I'd feel sorry for a man who lost that much of his life on a wrongful conviction. 327 00:19:00,662 --> 00:19:03,973 If Fallon gets this in front of a jury, you could have a problem. 328 00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:13,656 You 're moving to preclude this defense, Mr. McCoy? 329 00:19:13,712 --> 00:19:18,560 Your Honor, it's ridiculous. Under Mr. Fallon's theory, every ex-con would have a defense for murder. 330 00:19:18,618 --> 00:19:21,497 But we 're not talking about men who were criminals before going to prison. 331 00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:25,025 We're talking about a man who was completely innocent before being sent to Green Haven, 332 00:19:25,092 --> 00:19:27,334 and was profoundly and irrevocably changed... 333 00:19:27,395 --> 00:19:29,375 and not for the better by the experience. 334 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:31,411 And prison erased his sense of right and wrong? 335 00:19:31,467 --> 00:19:35,280 In a manner of speaking, yes. It maimed him. It dehumanized him. 336 00:19:35,338 --> 00:19:37,477 It replaced traditional notions of right and wrong... 337 00:19:37,541 --> 00:19:40,955 with a kill-or-be-killed reflex that led, tragically, to Brendan Donner's death. 338 00:19:41,012 --> 00:19:43,390 That doesn't meet the New York standard, Your Honor. 339 00:19:43,447 --> 00:19:46,429 Either Mr. Grimes didn't know what he was doing was wrong, 340 00:19:46,485 --> 00:19:48,966 or he didn't understand the nature of his behavior. 341 00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,798 Simply reacting to a perceived threat... 342 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:55,204 because he thought he was in a hostile environment doesn't cut it. 343 00:19:55,262 --> 00:19:57,971 He wasn't in prison. He was in a bar, Your Honor. He completely overreacted. 344 00:19:58,033 --> 00:20:01,139 Exactly Walter Grimes completely overreacted... 345 00:20:01,203 --> 00:20:03,343 Because of how his prison experience shaped him. 346 00:20:03,406 --> 00:20:05,647 You have an expert who will back your theory, Mr. Fallon? 347 00:20:05,708 --> 00:20:08,246 I've got five of them, Your Honor. Fax their C.V.'s over to me. 348 00:20:08,312 --> 00:20:12,022 If they're credible, I'm inclined to let this go to a jury. 349 00:20:12,083 --> 00:20:14,690 You don't think that there might be something to Grimes's defense? 350 00:20:14,753 --> 00:20:17,165 People adapt to their environment, in or out of prison. 351 00:20:17,223 --> 00:20:19,795 He knew where he was and how he was supposed to act. 352 00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:24,401 How do we know he wasn't a bad apple before rotting in prison for 20 years? 353 00:20:24,465 --> 00:20:27,503 Fallon's already conceded this defense only applies... 354 00:20:27,568 --> 00:20:31,381 if Grimes was a law-abiding citizen before being shipped off to Green Haven. 355 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,786 Leeanne Testa's murder was his first arrest. 356 00:20:34,844 --> 00:20:37,451 How old was he at that time? Nineteen. 357 00:20:37,514 --> 00:20:40,791 If he had committed any prior crimes they might have been as a juvenile. 358 00:20:40,852 --> 00:20:42,991 And those records would be sealed. 359 00:20:43,054 --> 00:20:47,834 I'm sure that under the circumstances you could convince a judge to unseal those records, 360 00:20:47,894 --> 00:20:49,841 if there are any. 361 00:20:51,031 --> 00:20:54,980 What prosecutor wouldn't love a peek at a defendant's juvie record? 362 00:20:55,036 --> 00:20:58,017 But if I unsealed it in every case, the seal would have no meaning. 363 00:20:58,072 --> 00:21:00,110 This isn't a typical case. 364 00:21:00,175 --> 00:21:03,123 Mr. Grimes's defense puts his juvenile record directly at issue. 365 00:21:03,179 --> 00:21:06,251 He claims he had no criminal tendencies before he went to prison. 366 00:21:06,316 --> 00:21:09,127 So, you want to look at his juvenile record, assuming that he has one, 367 00:21:09,186 --> 00:21:11,325 to determine if that's true. 368 00:21:11,389 --> 00:21:13,961 I'll tell you what. I'll review the file in camera. 369 00:21:14,026 --> 00:21:17,304 If I find anything relevant, I'll make it available to you. Agreed? 370 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,900 Thank you, Your Honor. 371 00:21:19,966 --> 00:21:24,109 Jackpot. Grimes fits the textbook definition of a bad seed. 372 00:21:24,171 --> 00:21:27,051 Arrests for school ground assault, menacing, 373 00:21:27,108 --> 00:21:30,750 auto stripping, possession of stolen property. 374 00:21:30,813 --> 00:21:33,590 But no convictions. The system kept cutting him loose. 375 00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:37,393 The closest he ever came was a liquor store robbery when he was 15. 376 00:21:37,454 --> 00:21:40,436 He threatened the owner with a gun. Why did the A.D.A. kick it? 377 00:21:40,491 --> 00:21:42,802 I don't know. But it makes one thing pretty clear. 378 00:21:42,861 --> 00:21:44,966 Even if Grimes didn't kill Leeanne Testa... 379 00:21:45,030 --> 00:21:47,033 He was hardly an innocent man. 380 00:21:51,172 --> 00:21:54,642 Sure, I remember. Guy sticks a gun in my face, I'm gonna forget that? 381 00:21:54,709 --> 00:21:58,988 According to his juvenile records, the police arrested a young man named Walter Grimes. 382 00:21:59,047 --> 00:22:01,028 You're talking about that white kid, right? 383 00:22:01,084 --> 00:22:03,724 He would've been about 15 at the time. He didn't do it. 384 00:22:03,786 --> 00:22:07,826 As far as I know, they never caught the kid that did. But the police arrested him. 385 00:22:07,891 --> 00:22:11,362 I told the officer... Daniels, his name was Daniels... 386 00:22:11,429 --> 00:22:15,139 I told Daniels the little pachuco who held me up was Hispanic. 387 00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:18,342 Daniels didn't believe me But I saw what I saw. 388 00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:20,351 Are you sure? Sure, I'm sure. 389 00:22:20,407 --> 00:22:23,651 How come Officer Daniels didn't believe you? How come he arrested Walter Grimes? 390 00:22:23,711 --> 00:22:26,056 You're gonna have to ask him. 391 00:22:26,115 --> 00:22:28,288 You're talking about a case that was, like, 25 years ago. 392 00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:31,161 I know cops who remember every suspect they ever interrogated. 393 00:22:31,221 --> 00:22:33,827 Walter Grimes? Yeah, that's right. 394 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:35,837 Real punk. Absolute white trash. 395 00:22:35,893 --> 00:22:38,567 Is this about that guy he killed in a bar? That's right. 396 00:22:38,629 --> 00:22:42,840 See, that's what you get when you let a guy like Grimes loose on society. 397 00:22:42,901 --> 00:22:45,007 He was exonerated. Whatever. 398 00:22:46,339 --> 00:22:49,514 I'm looking into all of his priors. If Grimes did this liquor store robbery, 399 00:22:49,576 --> 00:22:51,920 it would actually help the case that we're prosecuting. 400 00:22:51,979 --> 00:22:54,187 But the store owner says that he didn't. 401 00:22:54,249 --> 00:22:56,594 What can I tell you? The old guy was wrong. 402 00:22:56,652 --> 00:23:00,361 But Grimes is white. The store owner said that the robber was Latino. 403 00:23:00,423 --> 00:23:02,665 Look, the old man was so scared, he pissed himself. 404 00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:05,002 All he saw was the gun, if that. 405 00:23:05,061 --> 00:23:07,167 Grimes's the guy who held him up. I have no doubt. 406 00:23:07,231 --> 00:23:09,542 Except your gut isn't admissible, Detective. 407 00:23:09,601 --> 00:23:12,138 Which is why the D.A. kicked the robbery charge. 408 00:23:12,204 --> 00:23:14,811 Grimes did it. And it wasn't his first stickup either. 409 00:23:14,874 --> 00:23:17,718 That kid was born to go to jail. Have a good day. 410 00:23:18,846 --> 00:23:20,985 So, we know Grimes wasn't the choirboy... 411 00:23:21,048 --> 00:23:23,620 his lawyer's been saying he was, but we can't prove it? 412 00:23:23,685 --> 00:23:25,631 That's what it looks like. 413 00:23:25,687 --> 00:23:28,032 What about the knife? The one found at Grimes's apartment? 414 00:23:28,091 --> 00:23:31,402 D.N.A. confirmed that the blood on it wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 415 00:23:31,462 --> 00:23:34,272 But it was someone's. Let's see if we can find out whose. 416 00:23:34,331 --> 00:23:37,575 I'll have Briscoe and Green contact the primary on the Testa case. 417 00:23:37,635 --> 00:23:40,344 We got an anonymous tip about the Testa case. 418 00:23:40,406 --> 00:23:43,012 Judge signed the search warrant. Off an anonymous tip? 419 00:23:43,075 --> 00:23:45,989 Back in '84, we had a couple political appointees... 420 00:23:46,046 --> 00:23:48,994 they let us take a few more procedural shortcuts than they do now. 421 00:23:49,050 --> 00:23:50,996 Ah, the Reagan years. 422 00:23:51,052 --> 00:23:53,624 Anyway, I went in with my partner and a team of five blues. 423 00:23:53,689 --> 00:23:56,499 We searched from ceiling to cellar. Yeah, you found the knife. 424 00:23:56,558 --> 00:23:59,836 Wrapped in a dishrag. It was hidden under a loose floorboard in his closet. 425 00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:02,776 But the blood on the knife wasn't Leeanne Testa's. 426 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:07,044 Hell of a thing. This Fallon guy... Yeah, the Exoneration Project. 427 00:24:07,105 --> 00:24:12,021 Got a court order, did family D.N.A. against the knife, proved it wasn't Testa's. 428 00:24:12,078 --> 00:24:14,354 Grimes always said that the knife was planted. 429 00:24:14,413 --> 00:24:16,360 Well, of course he'd say that. 430 00:24:16,416 --> 00:24:18,828 Who knows? He probably killed somebody else. 431 00:24:18,886 --> 00:24:23,131 Yeah thats why we need to run that knife past forensics, see if it matches any open cases. 432 00:24:23,191 --> 00:24:26,833 Well, after Fallon had it tested, it went back to the M.E.'s office. Ought to still be there. 433 00:24:26,896 --> 00:24:29,741 So, that day, when you found the knife in Grimes's apartment, 434 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:31,836 anything strike you as fishy? 435 00:24:31,902 --> 00:24:35,510 Well, I didn't actually find it. Some uniform, got his shield a few years back. 436 00:24:35,573 --> 00:24:39,078 Reynolds, Daniels, something like that. Not Kenny Daniels? 437 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:41,489 Yeah, Kenny Daniels. That's it. You know him? 438 00:24:41,548 --> 00:24:44,324 We were at the same house for a while, the 29. I ain't seen him in years. 439 00:24:44,384 --> 00:24:46,331 He the kind of cop that would plant evidence? 440 00:24:46,387 --> 00:24:49,129 Not the Kenny Daniels I knew. He was a stickler. By the book. 441 00:24:49,189 --> 00:24:51,136 He drove me crazy. Thought I was a cowboy. 442 00:24:51,193 --> 00:24:53,366 He'd always say “dot your i's, cross your t's." 443 00:24:53,428 --> 00:24:55,375 People change. 444 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:03,184 This is great, Ed. What is it, uh, eight or 10 years since I seen you? Not even a phone call. 445 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,551 Now you're on my doorstep making accusations? 446 00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:09,354 Just questions, Kenny. Not accusations, just questions. 447 00:25:09,415 --> 00:25:12,522 These the sort of questions I should have my P.B.A. delegate present for? 448 00:25:12,585 --> 00:25:15,930 Look, I spoke to the D.A.'s office. 449 00:25:15,989 --> 00:25:18,027 You arrested Grimes for a liquor store robbery... 450 00:25:18,092 --> 00:25:20,595 that the owner swears up and down that the kid didn't commit. 451 00:25:20,661 --> 00:25:23,734 Mr. Magoo? 452 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:26,644 That old man was so blind, he couldn't tell his ass from his elbow. 453 00:25:26,703 --> 00:25:29,651 Grimes did the robbery, Ed. Trust me. Okay. 454 00:25:29,707 --> 00:25:32,313 But then you find a knife that puts the same guy away... 455 00:25:32,376 --> 00:25:35,381 for a murder that he absolutely did not commit. 456 00:25:35,447 --> 00:25:37,393 He goes to jail for 20 years. 457 00:25:38,884 --> 00:25:41,922 What? What is it, man? You couldn't get him on the liquor store robbery, 458 00:25:41,988 --> 00:25:44,128 so you framed him for Leeanne Testa's murder? 459 00:25:44,191 --> 00:25:46,137 Liquor store had nothing to do with it. 460 00:25:46,193 --> 00:25:49,903 How do you think Grimes's prints got on that knife? What, do you think I'm some kind of magician? 461 00:25:49,964 --> 00:25:53,435 I don't know, man. You tell me. 462 00:26:04,081 --> 00:26:06,028 Her name was Julie Sayer. 463 00:26:07,352 --> 00:26:10,630 She was 16, going on 12. 464 00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:12,636 You know, innocent. 465 00:26:13,694 --> 00:26:16,038 The knife I found in Grimes's apartment... 466 00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:18,634 it was his, all right, but he didn't use it on Leeanne Testa. 467 00:26:20,168 --> 00:26:22,342 He used it on Julie Sayer. 468 00:26:22,405 --> 00:26:24,783 He slit her throat with it. 469 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,720 There was no D.N.A. testing back then. 470 00:26:27,778 --> 00:26:30,349 Same type... "O" positive. 471 00:26:30,414 --> 00:26:32,691 So, everyone assumed it was Leeanne's blood. 472 00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:35,561 Well, if Grimes killed Julie Sayer, why didn't you collar him for that? 473 00:26:35,621 --> 00:26:37,897 I did. Grimes was a creep. 474 00:26:37,956 --> 00:26:40,164 I had witnesses who put him with the girl that morning. 475 00:26:40,226 --> 00:26:43,002 I brought him in. He started runnin' his mouth, talkin' trash. 476 00:26:43,063 --> 00:26:45,340 He even took a swing at me. 477 00:26:45,399 --> 00:26:48,347 You didn't beat the dude down, did you? 478 00:26:48,403 --> 00:26:51,213 Only time I ever lost it like that. 479 00:26:52,742 --> 00:26:55,916 All I could see was that dead girl lying there with her throat cut. 480 00:26:55,978 --> 00:26:59,483 - Did Grimes give it up? - Yeah, he told me how he killed Juiie. 481 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:02,430 Told me how he hid the knife in a storm drain. 482 00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:04,433 Told me exactly where to find it. 483 00:27:04,489 --> 00:27:07,096 But what, the bust wasn't any good? 484 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:10,437 Lieu took one look at him, one look at my knuckles. He told me I had to kick him loose. 485 00:27:10,497 --> 00:27:12,670 He told you to 86 the arrest. 486 00:27:13,734 --> 00:27:16,011 Try to find another way to make the case. 487 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:18,607 But if the confession was inadmissible then... The knife was too. 488 00:27:18,673 --> 00:27:22,383 There wasn't gonna be any justice for Julie Sayer. 489 00:27:25,048 --> 00:27:29,361 I let Grimes go, fished the knife out of the storm drain... 490 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:31,366 saved it for a rainy day. 491 00:27:33,425 --> 00:27:35,462 Then Leeanne Testa gets stabbed. 492 00:27:36,996 --> 00:27:39,476 Wound patterns were consistent with Grimes's knife. 493 00:27:39,532 --> 00:27:42,275 Blood type the same as Julie's. Pieces fell into place. 494 00:27:42,336 --> 00:27:45,216 You call in an anonymous tip... 495 00:27:45,273 --> 00:27:48,152 and then you "find" the knife in Grimes's apartment? 496 00:27:48,209 --> 00:27:51,020 Why not? Grimes was guilty. 497 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,253 He was a murderer! 498 00:27:53,315 --> 00:27:55,956 He was gonna walk on the murder of Julie Sayer. 499 00:27:56,019 --> 00:27:57,965 He was gonna walk because of me! 500 00:28:00,658 --> 00:28:02,604 It was eating me up, Ed. 501 00:28:02,661 --> 00:28:07,702 I had to make it right. I had to balance the scales. 502 00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:22,460 At least he didn't frame an innocent man. 503 00:28:22,518 --> 00:28:24,931 No, he framed a guilty one. 504 00:28:24,988 --> 00:28:29,062 The way he sees it, he kept Grimes from falling through the cracks in the system. 505 00:28:29,127 --> 00:28:32,574 Well, somebody should tell him not to do the system any more favors. 506 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:37,171 Regardless of his motivation, this is the worst kind of police misconduct. 507 00:28:37,236 --> 00:28:41,242 Now, any appellate court would find that this shocks the conscience, and so should we. 508 00:28:41,308 --> 00:28:45,485 - Agreed, but he's all we've got. - Where's this lieutenant of his now? 509 00:28:45,546 --> 00:28:48,494 In the cemetery. He died of a heart attack six years ago. 510 00:28:48,550 --> 00:28:51,157 So no one but Daniels can say that Grimes killed Julie Sayer. 511 00:28:51,221 --> 00:28:53,428 No, but if we could prove he did! 512 00:28:53,489 --> 00:28:56,801 Fallon's defense strategy on the Donner murder goes out the window. 513 00:28:56,860 --> 00:29:00,308 Grimes was a murderer before he was ever shipped off to Green Haven. 514 00:29:00,365 --> 00:29:03,369 All right. We'll try him on the Sayer murder first. 515 00:29:03,435 --> 00:29:07,350 Only Grimes is confession is no more admissible today than it was 20 years ago. 516 00:29:07,406 --> 00:29:11,116 But today, D. N.A. analysis will confirm... 517 00:29:11,178 --> 00:29:14,092 that the blood on the knife is Julie Sayer's. 518 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:16,186 You know what Fallon's gonna say about that. 519 00:29:19,722 --> 00:29:23,136 People versus Walter Grimes. Murder in the second degree. 520 00:29:23,193 --> 00:29:26,767 - How do you plead, Mr. Grimes? - My client pleads not guilty, Your Honor. 521 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:29,607 People on bail? The People seek remand 522 00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:32,979 Mr. Grimes is accused of murdering a teenage girl, stabbing her to death. 523 00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:36,179 Your Honor, this crime took place more than 20 years ago. 524 00:29:36,242 --> 00:29:39,156 Mr. Grimes is also a suspect in a recent bar killing. 525 00:29:39,213 --> 00:29:41,659 Let the State try him on that charge then. We intend to. 526 00:29:41,715 --> 00:29:45,254 Their physical evidence in this matter, Your Honor, the murder of Julie Sayer, 527 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,792 the State has already used to convict my client of another crime for which he's subsequently been exonerated. 528 00:29:49,859 --> 00:29:52,773 - Is this true, Miss Southerlyn? - That same D.N.A. evidence, Your Honor, 529 00:29:52,829 --> 00:29:56,505 now accurately identifies which victim Mr. Grimes killed. 530 00:29:56,567 --> 00:30:00,413 Their star witness is the officer who planted the knife and framed my client in the first case. 531 00:30:00,471 --> 00:30:05,388 Enough. Someone else can sort through the evidentiary issues, thank God. 532 00:30:05,445 --> 00:30:07,686 Since the People seem to have an ongoing interest... 533 00:30:07,747 --> 00:30:11,821 in Mr. Grimes's whereabouts after this matter is concluded, I'm gonna remand the defendant. 534 00:30:11,886 --> 00:30:14,390 - Your Honor... - That's it. Sorry, Mr. Fallon. 535 00:30:14,456 --> 00:30:17,528 Better luck next time. Next case. 536 00:30:18,594 --> 00:30:20,699 The knife was planted in my client's apartment. 537 00:30:20,763 --> 00:30:23,745 By a police officer. The chain of custody remained intact. 538 00:30:23,801 --> 00:30:27,875 This is outrageous. I can't believe you can stand there and say that to me with a straight face. 539 00:30:27,939 --> 00:30:31,045 You're forgetting how that officer found the knife in the storm drain in the first place. 540 00:30:31,109 --> 00:30:33,784 Your client told him where it was. He beat it out of him. 541 00:30:33,846 --> 00:30:37,556 An improperly obtained confession. The knife is poisonous fruit. 542 00:30:37,617 --> 00:30:40,895 You're assuming that the police wouldn't have found it without Grimes's confession. 543 00:30:40,955 --> 00:30:44,665 They canvassed all over the city. They would have never found it. And you know it. 544 00:30:44,727 --> 00:30:49,143 Let's see what a judge thinks. In the meantime, consider this your notice of our lab work. 545 00:30:49,199 --> 00:30:51,645 We exhumed her body and extracted D.N.A. from her bones. 546 00:30:51,701 --> 00:30:53,648 The blood on the knife was Julie Sayer's. 547 00:30:53,704 --> 00:30:55,684 D.N.A.'s a double-edged sword, counselor. 548 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:59,314 D.N.A.'s persuasive only if it's admissible. 549 00:30:59,378 --> 00:31:01,324 My motion to suppress the knife. 550 00:31:07,554 --> 00:31:10,194 - Is he right? - About the D.N.A.? 551 00:31:10,257 --> 00:31:14,001 About the search. Fallon just said the police looked high and low for the knife. 552 00:31:14,062 --> 00:31:16,475 That's right. 553 00:31:16,532 --> 00:31:18,478 Let's get the case's primary on the phone. 554 00:31:20,137 --> 00:31:23,243 Julie Sayer was 16, pretty. 555 00:31:23,306 --> 00:31:25,446 On the front page of the Post for weeks. 556 00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:27,456 Bet your ass we tore the city apart. 557 00:31:27,512 --> 00:31:31,757 Do you remember searching on 190th Street between Audubon and Amsterdam? 558 00:31:31,817 --> 00:31:34,526 Where it happened. We turned that neighborhood upside down. 559 00:31:34,587 --> 00:31:37,125 Storm drains? We searched them all. 560 00:31:37,191 --> 00:31:41,607 From Washington Heights to Inwood. Would you be willing to sign an affidavit? 561 00:31:41,663 --> 00:31:43,973 What? That we searched the storm drains? 562 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:46,070 Every one in the area. 563 00:31:46,135 --> 00:31:48,137 With a flashlight and a fine-tooth comb. 564 00:31:48,204 --> 00:31:50,947 And didn't find a thing. 565 00:31:51,008 --> 00:31:53,750 First, the People concede that Detective Daniels, who was then Officer Daniels... 566 00:31:53,811 --> 00:31:56,850 questioned my client without counsel present in clear violation of his Sixth Amendment rights. 567 00:31:56,915 --> 00:32:00,796 Then they concede he assaulted my client to obtain a confession in violation of his Fifth Amendment rights, 568 00:32:00,853 --> 00:32:04,233 used that illegal confession to seize the knife in violation of my client's Fourth Amendment rights. 569 00:32:04,291 --> 00:32:07,739 And, as if that wasn't enough, they freely admit he then planted the knife... 570 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:09,741 to frame my client for a crime he didn't commit, 571 00:32:09,797 --> 00:32:12,074 in violation of, at the very least, his 14th Amendment rights. 572 00:32:12,134 --> 00:32:14,273 Are there any amendments the People haven't violated? 573 00:32:14,336 --> 00:32:17,250 Now, in what has to be the single greatest demonstration of legal chutzpah... 574 00:32:17,307 --> 00:32:20,379 in the history of jurisprudence, he contends the knife shouldn't be suppressed. 575 00:32:20,443 --> 00:32:22,651 Mr. McCoy, is this true? Every word, Your Honor. 576 00:32:22,713 --> 00:32:25,388 Then how can you argue in support of the knife's admission? 577 00:32:25,450 --> 00:32:28,090 Because of the “inevitable discovery” doctrine 578 00:32:28,153 --> 00:32:32,660 the knife is admissible if the police would have eventually discovered it without the impropriety. 579 00:32:32,725 --> 00:32:34,728 How is that possible? They only found the knife... 580 00:32:34,795 --> 00:32:37,036 because Officer Daniels planted it in my client's home. 581 00:32:37,097 --> 00:32:41,342 The police canvassed the area where the knife was originally hidden. 582 00:32:41,402 --> 00:32:44,111 I have an affidavit from Detective Johnson, 583 00:32:44,173 --> 00:32:48,714 the primary on the case, who searched the storm drain where Grimes had hidden the knife. 584 00:32:48,779 --> 00:32:52,284 - But it wasn't there to be found. - Because Officer Daniels had already removed it. 585 00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:54,296 Under inevitable discovery the issue is, 586 00:32:54,352 --> 00:32:58,563 what would have happened but for Officer Daniels's wrongful conduct? 587 00:32:58,624 --> 00:33:01,731 The knife would have been in that storm drain for Detective Johnson to find. 588 00:33:01,794 --> 00:33:03,933 Exactly Oh, this is outrageous. 589 00:33:03,997 --> 00:33:07,241 You're basically saying that Daniele's illegal conduct makes the knife admissible. 590 00:33:07,301 --> 00:33:11,546 It isn't that I don't see the irony, but the evidence is admissible. 591 00:33:11,606 --> 00:33:17,421 He's got you, Mr. Fallon. Look, Mr. Grimes's confession remains inadmissible, but the knife comes in. 592 00:33:19,483 --> 00:33:21,429 Don't pop those champagne corks yet. 593 00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:24,057 No amount of fancy footwork is gonna change the fact... 594 00:33:24,122 --> 00:33:26,501 that your sponsoring witness is Kenny Daniels. 595 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,937 I hate using him, but what choice do we have? 596 00:33:28,994 --> 00:33:32,943 A cop who admits he framed a guilty man for another crime which he didn't commit. 597 00:33:32,999 --> 00:33:36,072 In service of the greater good. That's what you'll tell the jury. 598 00:33:36,137 --> 00:33:40,746 What Fallon will tell them is that Daniels is a vigilante with an ax to grind. 599 00:33:40,809 --> 00:33:43,415 Which is exactly what we need to prepare him for. 600 00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:47,658 If I hadn't done what I did, Grimes was gonna walk. 601 00:33:47,717 --> 00:33:50,597 Why are you making me out to be the bad guy? 602 00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,965 Because you crossed the line, Detective. 603 00:33:53,024 --> 00:33:56,198 And because that's what Rodney Fallon will do when you take the stand. 604 00:33:56,261 --> 00:33:58,936 He's not the first shyster I've taken on. I can handle him. 605 00:33:58,998 --> 00:34:02,139 Let's hope he's the only one whose client's been framed by you. 606 00:34:02,202 --> 00:34:05,183 Okay. I deserve that. 607 00:34:06,507 --> 00:34:08,953 Grimes killed Julie Sayer. He admitted it. 608 00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:11,753 And because I screwed up, he was gonna walk. 609 00:34:11,814 --> 00:34:15,490 That's a mistake I couldn't live with, and I'm not gonna apologize for fixin' it! 610 00:34:15,552 --> 00:34:19,000 If you don't, he may walk on Julie's murder a second time. 611 00:34:19,056 --> 00:34:22,060 If the jury sees you as some kind of a vigilante... 612 00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:25,802 with no qualms about framing someone or planting evidence, 613 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:28,869 they won't listen to a word you say! 614 00:34:28,935 --> 00:34:33,817 I screwed up 20 years ago. But by making it right, it's the best thing I've ever done. 615 00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:37,580 You really want me to say I feel sorry when I don't? 616 00:34:37,646 --> 00:34:43,120 You're a police officer. And you put yourself above the law. 617 00:34:43,185 --> 00:34:45,689 I can't believe you have no regrets about that. 618 00:34:45,756 --> 00:34:48,760 Yeah, I have some regrets, that I gave him a beating and I screwed up the case. 619 00:34:48,825 --> 00:34:52,103 What, do you want me to lie? I want you to acknowledge... 620 00:34:52,163 --> 00:34:54,337 what it is I know you must be feeling! 621 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,346 And that's what? Guilt. 622 00:34:56,402 --> 00:34:59,680 Guilt about what? Guilt at having been so arrogant... 623 00:34:59,739 --> 00:35:03,119 as to put yourself above the law! 624 00:35:08,617 --> 00:35:10,597 Planting the knife was wrong. 625 00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:12,599 What I did was wrong. 626 00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:16,399 I was trying to do right, but now I see the ends didn't justify the means. 627 00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:18,667 I'm sure you understand people may view... 628 00:35:18,729 --> 00:35:21,074 whatever testimony you'd offer against Walter Grimes... 629 00:35:21,132 --> 00:35:23,078 with a certain amount of skepticism. 630 00:35:23,134 --> 00:35:25,911 I made one mistake 20 years ago. 631 00:35:25,972 --> 00:35:29,216 Since then? I've told the truth and played by the rules. 632 00:35:33,581 --> 00:35:35,527 Have you? Yes. 633 00:35:35,583 --> 00:35:37,585 “One mistake." 634 00:35:37,653 --> 00:35:40,566 You admit you framed my client for the murder of Leeanne Testa. 635 00:35:40,623 --> 00:35:45,630 I admit to framing him for one murder because he committed another, the one he's on trial for here. 636 00:35:45,695 --> 00:35:48,438 You don't get to be judge and jury this time, Mr. Daniels. 637 00:35:48,499 --> 00:35:50,638 He confessed to me that he killed Julie Sayer. 638 00:35:50,701 --> 00:35:54,343 A confession you beat out of him. Which mistake do you regret, 639 00:35:54,406 --> 00:35:57,354 beating my client, or planting evidence against him? 640 00:35:59,212 --> 00:36:01,352 Both. So that's two mistakes. 641 00:36:01,415 --> 00:36:05,455 Tell me, is there anyone who can corroborate your story? Just your client. 642 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,764 My client maintains his innocence. Which means we're left with your word. 643 00:36:08,824 --> 00:36:11,668 Then you're left with my word, and I'm telling the truth. But I don't believe you. 644 00:36:11,727 --> 00:36:13,708 You've been obsessed with getting my client for decades, 645 00:36:13,764 --> 00:36:15,710 since he was a kid, haven't you? No. 646 00:36:15,766 --> 00:36:20,113 - You arrested him for a liquor store robbery that was committed by someone else. - I stand by that arrest. 647 00:36:20,171 --> 00:36:22,482 Even though the owner said the robber was Latino. 648 00:36:22,541 --> 00:36:24,987 And then, on another occasion, you assaulted Mr. Grimes. 649 00:36:25,044 --> 00:36:27,286 He was a suspect. He attacked me, counselor, and I defended myself. 650 00:36:27,347 --> 00:36:29,953 He was in your custody and you beat him bloody. 651 00:36:31,452 --> 00:36:35,526 - Like I said, I regret that. - Then you framed him for Leeanne Testa's murder. 652 00:36:35,590 --> 00:36:37,536 And I've got nothin' to gain by admittin' it. 653 00:36:37,592 --> 00:36:40,403 In fact, I'm throwing away my career and my pension... 654 00:36:40,463 --> 00:36:43,171 Your career and pension mean nothing to you, do they? 655 00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:46,680 Not compared to your vendetta against Walter Grimes. 656 00:36:53,579 --> 00:36:56,959 Enjoy the show? You held up okay. 657 00:36:57,017 --> 00:36:59,122 What're you doing here? It's my case. 658 00:37:00,153 --> 00:37:02,100 I thought maybe you came to gloat. 659 00:37:02,156 --> 00:37:04,659 Why would I do that? We're friends. 660 00:37:04,725 --> 00:37:06,933 I thought we were. 661 00:37:06,995 --> 00:37:10,705 Don't try to turn this around on me, Kenny. You put yourself in this circus. 662 00:37:10,767 --> 00:37:13,145 D.A.'s could've made their case on that barroom fight... 663 00:37:13,203 --> 00:37:16,014 without dredging this up and dragging me into the middle of it. 664 00:37:16,073 --> 00:37:17,950 We had no choice. You did. 665 00:37:19,011 --> 00:37:21,389 You could've let it go, Ed. 666 00:37:21,446 --> 00:37:24,291 You don't want justice for Julie Sayer? 667 00:37:25,351 --> 00:37:28,333 I already had justice for Julie Sayer. 668 00:37:36,465 --> 00:37:39,002 I don't know what I ever did to him, 669 00:37:39,068 --> 00:37:41,811 but he's had it in for me since I was a kid. 670 00:37:41,872 --> 00:37:45,514 He was the cop on the beat in our neighborhood, and he always hated me. 671 00:37:45,576 --> 00:37:48,182 He's had it in for me since day one. 672 00:37:48,246 --> 00:37:52,787 Detective Daniels seems to think you were an incorrigible criminal who should be taken off the street. 673 00:37:52,851 --> 00:37:55,025 Look, I never said I was a saint. 674 00:37:55,088 --> 00:37:57,899 But the things he said I did, I didn't do. 675 00:37:57,958 --> 00:38:00,199 But in respect to Julie Sayer's murder, 676 00:38:00,261 --> 00:38:03,766 your fingerprints are on the knife along with her blood. 677 00:38:03,832 --> 00:38:06,905 It's... It's my knife. I never denied that. 678 00:38:06,969 --> 00:38:09,210 Of course it's gonna have my prints on it. 679 00:38:09,272 --> 00:38:11,617 And Julie Sayer's blood? 680 00:38:11,675 --> 00:38:13,621 Daniels is police, right? 681 00:38:13,677 --> 00:38:16,522 He could get as much of her blood as he wanted. 682 00:38:16,581 --> 00:38:20,189 There's nothin' this guy won't do to burn me. Nothin' 683 00:38:25,192 --> 00:38:27,832 You sound paranoid, Mr. Grimes. 684 00:38:27,894 --> 00:38:31,308 It ain't paranoia if someone's really out to get you. This Daniels is. 685 00:38:31,365 --> 00:38:33,676 Yet you admit you don't know why. 686 00:38:34,737 --> 00:38:37,275 - You'd have to ask him. - No, I'm asking you. 687 00:38:37,340 --> 00:38:40,344 I don't know. Maybe he's crazy 688 00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:42,948 So you're saying Detective Daniels somehow manufactured... 689 00:38:43,013 --> 00:38:45,493 the bloody knife evidence in this case? 690 00:38:45,549 --> 00:38:47,791 Come on. He framed me before. 691 00:38:47,853 --> 00:38:51,700 I spent 20 years in prison for killing a person I never even laid eyes on. 692 00:38:51,757 --> 00:38:53,703 That's irrelevant, Mr. Grimes. 693 00:38:53,759 --> 00:38:56,070 Twenty years of my life is irrelevant? 694 00:38:56,129 --> 00:39:01,011 Your fingerprints are on the knife. Julie Sayer's blood is on the knife. 695 00:39:01,069 --> 00:39:03,209 How did all that get there? Objection! 696 00:39:03,272 --> 00:39:07,015 - Daniels put it there. - How did Detective Daniels get your knife? 697 00:39:07,076 --> 00:39:10,581 It is not incumbent upon the defendant to prove how Detective Daniels did anything. 698 00:39:10,647 --> 00:39:13,595 He's making all these assertions. He must have some idea. 699 00:39:13,651 --> 00:39:18,328 I don't know how! He framed me, okay? I never killed anybody! 700 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:20,427 You didn't kill Brendan Donner... 701 00:39:20,492 --> 00:39:23,770 three months after being released from prison... Objection, Your Honor! Objection! 702 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:25,902 By smashing his head in with a liquor bottle? 703 00:39:30,071 --> 00:39:32,278 This is outrageous. Accusing him of murder? 704 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:35,220 The defendant denied it. I have every right to attack his credibility. 705 00:39:35,278 --> 00:39:37,724 He hasn't been convicted in that case. He hasn't even been tried. 706 00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:40,455 But he did raise a “not responsible" defense. 707 00:39:40,517 --> 00:39:42,896 Which is an admission that he killed Brendan Donner. 708 00:39:42,954 --> 00:39:47,597 And if the defendant denies that, I'll put Dr. Olivet on the stand to impeach him. 709 00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:50,732 You goaded him into that denial so you could bring in the other case to poison the minds of the jury. 710 00:39:50,796 --> 00:39:53,801 They call that cross-examination, Mr. Fallon. 711 00:39:53,867 --> 00:39:56,781 Sorry, counsel. Your client opened the door and put out the welcome mat. 712 00:39:56,837 --> 00:39:59,943 If I were you, I'd talk to Mr. McCoy about a plea. 713 00:40:01,810 --> 00:40:04,290 Forget it, McCoy. I'll argue that Grimes killed Donner... 714 00:40:04,346 --> 00:40:07,487 because Daniele's vendetta against him turned him into a murderer. 715 00:40:07,550 --> 00:40:10,430 You don't have to posture, Mr. Fallon. Your client's not here. 716 00:40:10,487 --> 00:40:13,298 I don't have to posture because I still have Kenny Daniels to vilify. 717 00:40:13,358 --> 00:40:16,498 Which means nothing unless you can paint Grimes as the victim here. 718 00:40:16,561 --> 00:40:21,602 A victim is exactly what he is. A victim of police misconduct. A victim of the entire criminal justice system. 719 00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:25,138 The jury's not here either, so let's not pretend we don't know the crimes... 720 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:27,584 your client committed as a juvenile. 721 00:40:27,642 --> 00:40:30,088 Let's not pretend he didn't kill Julie Sayer. 722 00:40:30,144 --> 00:40:32,591 And let's not pretend Daniels wasn't out there playing judge and jury. 723 00:40:32,648 --> 00:40:36,062 Detective Daniels is not on trial here. Grimes is. 724 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,567 And Grimes is the one who slit a woman's throat. 725 00:40:39,623 --> 00:40:42,570 Grimes is the one who crushed a man's head. 726 00:40:42,626 --> 00:40:46,234 You seem to forget that. But I'm going to make sure the jury remembers. 727 00:40:46,298 --> 00:40:50,679 They're going to want someone to pay. Trust me, it won't be Kenny Daniels. 728 00:40:55,776 --> 00:40:59,156 Twenty years in prison almost killed Walter Grimes. 729 00:41:00,215 --> 00:41:02,856 I'll give him credit for those 20 years. 730 00:41:04,553 --> 00:41:06,966 If he allocutes. 731 00:41:11,596 --> 00:41:13,542 I killed Julie Sayer. 732 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:17,374 I knew her from around. I had the hots for her. 733 00:41:17,436 --> 00:41:19,383 But she... 734 00:41:20,707 --> 00:41:23,245 Doesn't matter why I did it. 735 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:25,256 I just... 736 00:41:27,515 --> 00:41:31,658 I followed her one night. I grabbed her. She said no. I stabbed her. That's it. 737 00:41:33,122 --> 00:41:35,068 There's nothing more to say. 738 00:41:35,124 --> 00:41:37,765 Mr. Grimes, since you're pleading guilty... 739 00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:41,902 to murder in the second degree with a sentence of 25 years to life, 740 00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:44,207 and since the terms of your plea agreement... 741 00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:46,511 are that in exchange for this allocution... 742 00:41:46,572 --> 00:41:50,715 you are to be given credit for the 20 years you served in Green Haven, 743 00:41:50,777 --> 00:41:55,193 your remaining sentence on the murder of Julie Sayer is five years. 744 00:41:55,249 --> 00:41:57,422 I understand, Your Honor. 745 00:41:57,485 --> 00:42:01,195 And the parties have also reached a plea with respect to the murder of Brendan Donner? 746 00:42:01,256 --> 00:42:04,568 We have. The defendant has waived his right to trial... 747 00:42:04,627 --> 00:42:07,939 and will plead guilty to first-degree manslaughter. 748 00:42:07,998 --> 00:42:11,947 I'm accepting the defendant's plea and imposing a sentence... 749 00:42:12,003 --> 00:42:15,280 of seven and a half to 15 years to be served consecutively... 750 00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:17,480 with the aforementioned five. 751 00:42:29,125 --> 00:42:31,264 I don't need company. 752 00:42:31,327 --> 00:42:34,502 Maybe I do. Irish, rocks on the side. 753 00:42:37,869 --> 00:42:39,815 He pled out. 754 00:42:42,274 --> 00:42:44,220 All's well that ends well. 755 00:42:48,047 --> 00:42:50,118 So, how's it end for you? 756 00:42:52,853 --> 00:42:55,095 I've been encouraged to take an early retirement. 757 00:43:04,735 --> 00:43:06,874 I'm sorry. 758 00:43:06,937 --> 00:43:10,317 Don't be. I did what I had to do.