1 00:00:01,333 --> 00:00:03,108 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,168 --> 00:00:07,082 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:07,139 --> 00:00:08,948 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:09,008 --> 00:00:11,750 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,844 --> 00:00:13,619 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,179 --> 00:00:17,058 My kid wants 60 bucks for one card. 7 00:00:17,116 --> 00:00:20,290 Hey, we had baseball, they got Pokémon. 8 00:00:20,352 --> 00:00:22,559 Hey, Thurman Munson never cost me 60 bucks. 9 00:00:22,621 --> 00:00:23,725 Oh, man. 10 00:00:23,789 --> 00:00:24,790 What's the matter? 11 00:00:24,857 --> 00:00:25,961 Thing weighs a ton. 12 00:00:26,025 --> 00:00:28,562 Well, check it out. Could be a computer or somethin'. 13 00:00:29,094 --> 00:00:30,937 Whatever it is, I want half. 14 00:00:35,501 --> 00:00:37,037 I don't think so. 15 00:00:37,102 --> 00:00:39,275 (CHATTER ON POLICE RADIO) 16 00:00:39,338 --> 00:00:42,842 Male, 16. Wrapped up in a blanket, then double bagged. 17 00:00:42,908 --> 00:00:44,387 (SIREN WAILING) 18 00:00:44,443 --> 00:00:46,514 Slashed once on the neck. ED: Damn. 19 00:00:46,578 --> 00:00:48,057 BRISCOE: So who is he? 20 00:00:48,113 --> 00:00:50,889 School ID from Jameson High. Name's Chris Skinner. 21 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:54,063 Mother called the precinct last night, reported him missing. 22 00:00:54,586 --> 00:00:56,031 Here's his address. 23 00:00:57,790 --> 00:00:59,736 Columbus. About 10 blocks north. 24 00:00:59,792 --> 00:01:01,965 Anybody see the bag get dumped? We're on it. 25 00:01:02,027 --> 00:01:03,870 Could've been dragged from any one of these buildings. 26 00:01:03,929 --> 00:01:05,909 Or somebody drove up with a delivery. 27 00:01:06,899 --> 00:01:08,105 Is that Chris? 28 00:01:08,834 --> 00:01:10,108 Who called her? 29 00:01:10,169 --> 00:01:11,341 Not us. 30 00:01:11,870 --> 00:01:14,544 What a coincidence What, she just showed up? 31 00:02:05,591 --> 00:02:07,434 Chris never came home for dinner. 32 00:02:08,260 --> 00:02:11,002 I called his friends, looked around the neighborhood. 33 00:02:12,030 --> 00:02:13,668 Then I called the police. 34 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:17,110 They didn't find him. And now he's dead. 35 00:02:19,204 --> 00:02:22,242 How did you happen to come to the murder scene Ms. Skinner? 36 00:02:22,307 --> 00:02:24,253 A friend heard it on the news. 37 00:02:24,543 --> 00:02:26,648 A dead boy on 56th Street. 38 00:02:27,246 --> 00:02:28,748 Are you married, Ms. Skinner? 39 00:02:29,848 --> 00:02:31,191 Boyfriend? 40 00:02:31,884 --> 00:02:33,955 No. Why? 41 00:02:34,153 --> 00:02:36,258 These are just standard questions, Ms. Skinner. 42 00:02:36,522 --> 00:02:38,627 I would never let anyone hurt Chris. 43 00:02:40,092 --> 00:02:41,969 (STAMMERS) I need a cigarette. 44 00:02:42,728 --> 00:02:44,503 An officer will walk you out. 45 00:02:52,938 --> 00:02:54,815 When did patrol get there last night? 46 00:02:55,407 --> 00:02:59,150 9:20. About 10 minutes after she called 911. 47 00:02:59,211 --> 00:03:01,418 They canvassed the neighborhood, searched his building. 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,550 And the apartment? 49 00:03:02,714 --> 00:03:04,751 Yeah, and the car. Nothing suspicious. 50 00:03:05,117 --> 00:03:06,528 Just a missing kid. 51 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:09,132 Fax from the kid's school. 52 00:03:09,188 --> 00:03:11,168 Two years ago, he came in all beat up. 53 00:03:11,223 --> 00:03:12,600 They called Children's Services. 54 00:03:12,658 --> 00:03:15,264 Chris and his mom said he fell down some stairs. 55 00:03:15,327 --> 00:03:18,934 May be this time he fell down on a knife. 56 00:03:22,067 --> 00:03:24,013 I make time of death about 5:00 p.m. 57 00:03:24,069 --> 00:03:25,480 What's this on his arm? 58 00:03:25,837 --> 00:03:28,511 It's from yesterday. I'm guessin' a grab mark. 59 00:03:28,574 --> 00:03:30,884 Or from getting banged around in the bag? 60 00:03:30,943 --> 00:03:33,219 People don't bruise so easy when they're dead. 61 00:03:33,278 --> 00:03:37,158 So you can't tell if he was dragged, carried or beamed down. 62 00:03:37,216 --> 00:03:38,627 Any signs of abuse? 63 00:03:38,684 --> 00:03:41,755 Either that or he played serious contact sports. 64 00:03:41,819 --> 00:03:43,924 Found some edema on his right shoulder and side. 65 00:03:43,988 --> 00:03:45,524 He got popped a couple of weeks ago. 66 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:47,001 ED: Not like this time. 67 00:03:47,425 --> 00:03:48,802 Interesting wound. 68 00:03:49,427 --> 00:03:51,998 At least a six-inch blade based on the length of the cut. 69 00:03:52,063 --> 00:03:54,304 And I'm guessing a blade with a wide curve. 70 00:03:54,365 --> 00:03:55,935 What, like a scythe? 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,606 Well, whatever it was, it hacked into his artery and he bled out. 72 00:03:59,070 --> 00:04:00,447 All over that blanket. 73 00:04:01,572 --> 00:04:02,710 Must've been washed recently. 74 00:04:02,773 --> 00:04:04,252 No hairs, no fingernails, 75 00:04:04,308 --> 00:04:06,584 no fibers that didn't come from the blanket. 76 00:04:06,677 --> 00:04:08,782 And the garbage bags are no good for prints. 77 00:04:08,846 --> 00:04:10,348 Good enough for dumpin' a body. 78 00:04:10,414 --> 00:04:14,954 Extra large. Three-millimeter, heavy duty, high-density polyethylene. 79 00:04:15,019 --> 00:04:16,760 Not something you'd find in your kitchen. 80 00:04:16,854 --> 00:04:18,595 There were cigarette ash and tobacco particles 81 00:04:18,656 --> 00:04:20,329 on the outside of the outer bag, 82 00:04:20,391 --> 00:04:21,665 stuck to some dried blood. 83 00:04:21,726 --> 00:04:23,831 What brand? American, menthol. 84 00:04:23,894 --> 00:04:26,534 Can't give you more until we get it back from the lab. 85 00:04:27,098 --> 00:04:29,408 Stuff could have been picked up on the sidewalk. 86 00:04:29,467 --> 00:04:31,970 Or a smoke after to calm your nerves. 87 00:04:33,271 --> 00:04:34,875 Sorry to hear the boy got killed, 88 00:04:34,939 --> 00:04:36,543 but I have to be at a divorce hearing in an hour. 89 00:04:36,607 --> 00:04:38,518 I don't have time for this Make him wait. 90 00:04:38,576 --> 00:04:41,056 You hear any commotion in the Skinner's apartment yesterday? 91 00:04:41,112 --> 00:04:43,718 Thick walls, okay? Only good thing about this building. 92 00:04:43,814 --> 00:04:45,521 She have any boyfriends staying over? 93 00:04:45,583 --> 00:04:47,927 I'm not interested in the woman's sex life. 94 00:04:47,985 --> 00:04:50,295 Uh, did you ever hear her get mad at her son? 95 00:04:50,421 --> 00:04:52,332 You think I stand in the hall with my ear to the door? 96 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:54,267 We love nosy people. We gotta ask. 97 00:04:54,325 --> 00:04:55,963 Any idea what kind of cigarettes she smokes? 98 00:04:56,027 --> 00:04:57,836 I've seen her at the deli around the corner. 99 00:04:59,030 --> 00:05:00,065 ED: Long brown hair. She smokes. 100 00:05:00,131 --> 00:05:01,906 She might have come in with her son. 101 00:05:01,966 --> 00:05:04,879 I know them. They walk by here to church every Sunday. 102 00:05:04,935 --> 00:05:06,175 She ever buy cigarettes here? 103 00:05:06,237 --> 00:05:08,274 Yeah. Uh, Deauville Lights. 104 00:05:08,339 --> 00:05:10,114 Not exactly American menthol. 105 00:05:10,474 --> 00:05:11,680 I saw 'em yesterday. 106 00:05:11,742 --> 00:05:13,551 When? About 4:15. 107 00:05:13,811 --> 00:05:17,088 He was out here with another boy, selling candy bars for school. 108 00:05:17,148 --> 00:05:19,628 I sell candy too, so I told 'em to go away. 109 00:05:19,684 --> 00:05:21,527 - You know the other boy? - No. 110 00:05:21,585 --> 00:05:23,030 What did he look like? 111 00:05:23,087 --> 00:05:25,931 Spanish kid. Uh, teenager. 112 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:27,469 I'm sorry I yelled at them. 113 00:05:27,525 --> 00:05:28,731 Thanks. 114 00:05:29,026 --> 00:05:30,869 Maybe the kid sold some bad candy. 115 00:05:34,131 --> 00:05:35,439 (BELL RINGING) 116 00:05:35,499 --> 00:05:37,445 MAN: I just heard. My God. 117 00:05:37,501 --> 00:05:40,380 Uh, Chris was sellin' chocolate bars for the school. 118 00:05:40,438 --> 00:05:42,611 The office pointed us in your direction. Why? 119 00:05:42,673 --> 00:05:44,812 We figure he got killed while he was hawkin' candy. 120 00:05:44,875 --> 00:05:46,786 Oh, I hope it wasn't that. 121 00:05:46,844 --> 00:05:49,222 Our Weightlifting Club just started a fundraising drive yesterday. 122 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,125 The boys were out selling Neptune bars 123 00:05:51,182 --> 00:05:52,923 to, uh, raise money for new equipment. 124 00:05:52,983 --> 00:05:56,362 Somebody else from the club was with him yesterday. 125 00:05:56,454 --> 00:05:58,058 Could have been Terry Sanchez. 126 00:05:58,122 --> 00:05:59,795 When Chris joined the club a month ago 127 00:05:59,857 --> 00:06:01,234 Terry kind of took him under his wing. 128 00:06:01,292 --> 00:06:02,464 You know, help pushed him through his reps. 129 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,096 Terry show up today? 130 00:06:04,161 --> 00:06:05,834 I think I saw him. 131 00:06:08,733 --> 00:06:10,974 We only sold like one candy bar in about half an hour. 132 00:06:11,102 --> 00:06:12,240 Then the Korean guy ran us off. 133 00:06:12,303 --> 00:06:13,509 Where'd you and Chris go? 134 00:06:13,571 --> 00:06:15,312 We split up. Figured, why stand on the street 135 00:06:15,373 --> 00:06:17,250 when I could sell a whole box to my grandmother? 136 00:06:17,308 --> 00:06:18,844 And that's where you were at five o'clock? 137 00:06:18,909 --> 00:06:20,479 Yeah. What about Chris? 138 00:06:20,544 --> 00:06:22,524 He was gonna sell door to door above 56th Street. 139 00:06:22,613 --> 00:06:23,717 Why 56th? 140 00:06:23,781 --> 00:06:25,419 Said there was a big building with no doorman. 141 00:06:25,616 --> 00:06:27,027 It'd be easy to get in. 142 00:06:27,084 --> 00:06:28,529 You and Chris were buddies, huh? 143 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,695 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 144 00:06:32,089 --> 00:06:33,500 I shoulda went with him. 145 00:06:33,557 --> 00:06:34,900 Maybe not. 146 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:38,297 BRISCOE: ls the doorman on a break? 147 00:06:38,362 --> 00:06:41,935 Yeah, since '96. Co-op board decided they're too expensive. 148 00:06:41,999 --> 00:06:43,205 I'm the super. 149 00:06:43,267 --> 00:06:44,940 I'm Detective Briscoe. This is Detective... 150 00:06:45,002 --> 00:06:46,242 Ooh-hoo! Two o'clock! 151 00:06:46,604 --> 00:06:48,515 Hey, follow the shiny badge. 152 00:06:49,874 --> 00:06:51,785 You see this kid yesterday afternoon? 153 00:06:51,842 --> 00:06:54,584 May have been going door to door with a box of candy? 154 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:57,389 Uh, I wasn't here yesterday afternoon. 155 00:06:57,815 --> 00:06:59,852 But I know that boy, all right. 156 00:06:59,917 --> 00:07:01,590 A couple of weeks ago, right across the street, 157 00:07:01,652 --> 00:07:04,030 he was messin' with one of the kids from the building. 158 00:07:04,088 --> 00:07:06,591 I ran after him. Had him pushed up against the wall. 159 00:07:06,657 --> 00:07:07,965 Who was the kid from the building? 160 00:07:08,192 --> 00:07:10,138 Uh, skinny kid. Always wears black. 161 00:07:10,861 --> 00:07:12,863 Ryan Velardi, 12C. 162 00:07:13,431 --> 00:07:14,876 RYAN: I got home right after school. 163 00:07:14,932 --> 00:07:16,343 But no one came around sellin' candy. 164 00:07:16,434 --> 00:07:17,674 Where were your parents? 165 00:07:17,802 --> 00:07:19,713 At work. Like they are now. 166 00:07:19,970 --> 00:07:21,950 What about you? Is this about the dead kid? 167 00:07:22,006 --> 00:07:23,041 What makes you think that? 168 00:07:23,107 --> 00:07:24,814 He was found right down the street. 169 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:26,081 Yeah, you guys know him? 170 00:07:26,844 --> 00:07:27,914 Nah. 171 00:07:27,978 --> 00:07:30,083 What school you go to? Jameson High. 172 00:07:30,247 --> 00:07:31,658 Same school as Chris Skinner. 173 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:34,962 I knew who he was. We just never hung out together. 174 00:07:35,386 --> 00:07:37,992 How about a couple of weeks ago, when he had you shoved up against the wall? 175 00:07:38,522 --> 00:07:39,557 Where'd you hear that? 176 00:07:39,623 --> 00:07:41,728 Look, maybe you should come back when my parents get home. 177 00:07:41,792 --> 00:07:43,135 ED: What's he got to hide? 178 00:07:43,194 --> 00:07:44,673 They'll be home from work around 10:00. 179 00:07:44,728 --> 00:07:46,230 Why don't we call them? 180 00:07:46,297 --> 00:07:48,243 You can't reach them now. We'll be back later. 181 00:07:51,569 --> 00:07:54,049 Charming pair. Parents work till 10:00? 182 00:07:54,104 --> 00:07:55,447 Maybe they're cops. 183 00:07:56,207 --> 00:07:58,949 Hey, Lennie. What the hell? 184 00:08:00,144 --> 00:08:02,317 They won't have bags that big up here. 185 00:08:06,584 --> 00:08:09,258 Couldn't fit a large pizza box into one of these. 186 00:08:10,888 --> 00:08:12,231 Yeah? 187 00:08:12,923 --> 00:08:14,334 How about this? 188 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:17,801 Neptune Bars. "Not for retail." 189 00:08:22,233 --> 00:08:23,303 I want my brother here. 190 00:08:23,367 --> 00:08:25,608 Ryan, relax. He's right across the hall. 191 00:08:25,669 --> 00:08:26,977 Then why can't he come in? 192 00:08:27,037 --> 00:08:28,141 Don't worry about it. 193 00:08:28,806 --> 00:08:29,807 Just me and you. 194 00:08:30,541 --> 00:08:31,576 I didn't do anything. 195 00:08:31,675 --> 00:08:33,348 Mmm, you lied about Chris Skinner. 196 00:08:33,444 --> 00:08:34,946 I'm not lying. 197 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:36,649 Come on, man. 198 00:08:37,715 --> 00:08:40,218 The two of you had beef. He chased you. 199 00:08:40,284 --> 00:08:41,388 I barely know the kid. 200 00:08:41,452 --> 00:08:44,194 You saw him after school on Thursday. I didn't. 201 00:08:44,255 --> 00:08:46,963 So it was just a coincidence that he was sellin' candy 202 00:08:47,024 --> 00:08:49,971 on your floor at the same time he got killed? 203 00:08:50,027 --> 00:08:51,028 Yeah, I guess. 204 00:08:51,095 --> 00:08:52,369 Don't play me! 205 00:08:52,429 --> 00:08:54,238 You really think you're gonna get up and walk outta here? 206 00:08:54,298 --> 00:08:56,574 You and your brother both are down with this. 207 00:08:56,634 --> 00:08:58,409 You got him to help you drag the bag downstairs, didn't you? 208 00:08:58,469 --> 00:08:59,470 No. 209 00:08:59,537 --> 00:09:01,517 Come on, man. We're getting fingerprints off your door. 210 00:09:01,572 --> 00:09:03,609 You're lyin' to me, you're goin' to Rikers. 211 00:09:03,674 --> 00:09:04,709 I'm only 16. 212 00:09:04,775 --> 00:09:07,551 Mmm-hmm. And they got a place for little boys like you out there. 213 00:09:07,611 --> 00:09:10,956 You think you're scared now, wait'll they get a hold of your little ass. 214 00:09:11,849 --> 00:09:14,295 I'm not saying anything till I talk to my brother. 215 00:09:14,451 --> 00:09:16,055 I wasn't even home on Thursday. 216 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,997 BRISCOE: What time did you get in? Like 6:30. 217 00:09:18,055 --> 00:09:20,695 Your brother mention anything about Chris Skinner comin' around? 218 00:09:20,758 --> 00:09:22,465 He told you, he hardly knows him. 219 00:09:22,526 --> 00:09:24,699 He was havin' problems with this kid, wasn't he? 220 00:09:24,762 --> 00:09:27,140 What kind of problems? Come on, Ricky. 221 00:09:27,197 --> 00:09:30,667 We got a witness who saw Chris goin after your brother. 222 00:09:31,068 --> 00:09:33,207 I don't really get all involved in my brother's social life. 223 00:09:33,270 --> 00:09:34,772 Maybe there's somethin goin' on with him. 224 00:09:34,838 --> 00:09:36,442 Like what? You gotta ask him. 225 00:09:37,841 --> 00:09:39,878 What kind of knives do you and Ryan have? 226 00:09:39,977 --> 00:09:41,388 We don't have any knives. 227 00:09:41,445 --> 00:09:42,617 (KNOCK ON DOOR) 228 00:09:43,213 --> 00:09:46,057 Mr. Velardi's lawyer. Uh, interview's over. 229 00:09:46,116 --> 00:09:48,392 Unless you have some evidence I don't know about. 230 00:09:49,220 --> 00:09:50,426 COVEN: Let's go. 231 00:09:53,924 --> 00:09:55,130 We searched their apartment. 232 00:09:55,192 --> 00:09:57,468 No blood, no bags and no prints. 233 00:09:57,595 --> 00:09:59,074 We know the victim was up there. 234 00:09:59,129 --> 00:10:01,040 His prints were on the candy box. 235 00:10:01,098 --> 00:10:02,600 Could be coincidence. 236 00:10:02,666 --> 00:10:05,613 Ryan had motive. The dead kid was hassling him. 237 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:07,981 One witness, one incident. 238 00:10:09,974 --> 00:10:12,955 Are you saying my son was bullying this boy? 239 00:10:13,344 --> 00:10:14,721 High school can be a rough place. 240 00:10:14,778 --> 00:10:17,486 Sometimes you gotta act tough to keep the wolves at bay. 241 00:10:18,415 --> 00:10:21,294 Chris wouldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure of that. 242 00:10:22,019 --> 00:10:24,363 BRISCOE: Our M.E. said he was all bruised up. 243 00:10:25,489 --> 00:10:26,695 He was? 244 00:10:27,024 --> 00:10:29,197 BRISCOE: Did he mention being in a fight? 245 00:10:29,927 --> 00:10:31,429 Ever get a call from the school? 246 00:10:31,629 --> 00:10:33,233 Detention? Anything like that? 247 00:10:33,297 --> 00:10:34,298 MARCIA: No. 248 00:10:35,065 --> 00:10:37,807 But Chris wasn't doing all that well when school started. 249 00:10:38,602 --> 00:10:40,775 I just thought he didn't like his teachers. 250 00:10:40,838 --> 00:10:42,818 When you say he wasn't doing well... 251 00:10:45,442 --> 00:10:47,251 He didn't really talk to me. 252 00:10:48,445 --> 00:10:51,551 But the last few weeks, he seemed a lot better. 253 00:10:51,815 --> 00:10:53,658 Around the time he joined the Weightlifting Club. 254 00:10:54,385 --> 00:10:55,864 Chris was lifting weights? 255 00:10:57,554 --> 00:10:59,033 He'd never done that before? 256 00:10:59,390 --> 00:11:00,494 No. 257 00:11:00,557 --> 00:11:02,593 BRISCOE: Anything else unusual going on? 258 00:11:05,928 --> 00:11:10,968 I found a pamphlet on his desk about conflict resolution. 259 00:11:11,367 --> 00:11:15,315 I thought it was just something that they gave everybody at his school. 260 00:11:17,006 --> 00:11:19,282 (CRYING) I meant to ask him about it. 261 00:11:19,342 --> 00:11:21,413 I was just so busy lately. 262 00:11:25,281 --> 00:11:27,090 Are you going to be okay, ma'am? 263 00:11:27,917 --> 00:11:29,396 I don't know. 264 00:11:36,025 --> 00:11:39,006 So the student has a problem, he sits down with a group of peer counselors. 265 00:11:39,062 --> 00:11:40,507 They try and talk it out. 266 00:11:40,697 --> 00:11:42,768 And if that doesn't work, they grab their guns. 267 00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:46,746 (LAUGHS) I hate to disappoint you, Detective, but Jameson's a magnet school. 268 00:11:46,803 --> 00:11:50,182 We don't really have the violence prevalent in bigger city schools. 269 00:11:50,239 --> 00:11:52,742 If a kid requested intervention, would you know about it? 270 00:11:52,809 --> 00:11:54,015 I'm supposed to. 271 00:11:54,077 --> 00:11:55,215 Chris Skinner? 272 00:11:55,712 --> 00:11:58,693 Uh, no. Chris was in my math class, but he never came here. 273 00:11:58,748 --> 00:11:59,920 He had one of your handouts. 274 00:11:59,982 --> 00:12:01,791 Any sense of what was bothering him? 275 00:12:02,752 --> 00:12:06,199 There's a lot of tension between the various cliques, you know? 276 00:12:06,255 --> 00:12:09,634 The jocks diss the freaks. The hip-hop kids diss the nerds. 277 00:12:10,293 --> 00:12:11,499 Any fights? 278 00:12:11,561 --> 00:12:13,802 Uh, not that I'm aware of. 279 00:12:13,863 --> 00:12:16,173 The psychological torture can get pretty nasty. 280 00:12:16,232 --> 00:12:18,542 It can drive a weak kid to self-destruct. 281 00:12:18,634 --> 00:12:20,375 Or to destruct some other kid. 282 00:12:20,503 --> 00:12:23,347 Was Chris in one of the cliques? I'm not sure. 283 00:12:23,406 --> 00:12:25,477 What about a kid named Ryan Velardi? 284 00:12:26,609 --> 00:12:27,883 I don't recognize that name. 285 00:12:28,177 --> 00:12:30,088 Dark greasy hair, black clothes. 286 00:12:30,146 --> 00:12:33,150 Mascara, black nail polish? He'd be a Goth. 287 00:12:33,416 --> 00:12:34,656 Just black clothes. 288 00:12:34,884 --> 00:12:36,659 Oh, then he'd be with the freaks. 289 00:12:43,626 --> 00:12:45,105 I just lost my appetite. 290 00:12:45,161 --> 00:12:46,936 ED: We just have a few questions. 291 00:12:46,996 --> 00:12:48,771 This has gotta be about Chris Skinner. 292 00:12:48,831 --> 00:12:51,937 It's about Ryan Velardi. He hangs out with you guys, right? 293 00:12:52,301 --> 00:12:53,302 Sometimes. 294 00:12:53,369 --> 00:12:55,872 He's got a PlayStation and some ill video games. 295 00:12:55,938 --> 00:12:57,918 He ever have any problems with Skinner? 296 00:12:57,974 --> 00:12:59,681 Aside from Chris being a geek? 297 00:12:59,742 --> 00:13:01,187 It sounds like you and Skinner didn't get along. 298 00:13:01,244 --> 00:13:02,985 We didn't have anything to do with him. 299 00:13:03,045 --> 00:13:05,025 He didn't have any classes with you? 300 00:13:05,081 --> 00:13:07,061 Ask Jon. He's in Special Ed. 301 00:13:07,116 --> 00:13:08,925 (LAUGHS SARCASTICALLY) Shut up. 302 00:13:08,985 --> 00:13:11,465 We didn't hate him or anything. He was just shallow. 303 00:13:11,521 --> 00:13:12,864 Practically a skater-oid. 304 00:13:12,922 --> 00:13:14,424 A what? BOY: A skater. 305 00:13:14,757 --> 00:13:16,737 You know, baggy pants, no brains. 306 00:13:16,959 --> 00:13:18,734 Ah, that would make him stand out around here. 307 00:13:18,795 --> 00:13:20,001 Thanks. 308 00:13:21,697 --> 00:13:23,199 I bummed a cigarette off Chris a few times, 309 00:13:23,266 --> 00:13:24,574 but he didn't really hang out with us. 310 00:13:24,634 --> 00:13:27,046 Did he ever say anything about Ryan Velardi? 311 00:13:27,170 --> 00:13:28,444 He was kind of quiet. 312 00:13:28,538 --> 00:13:30,609 Maybe Chris had a grudge against him. 313 00:13:30,773 --> 00:13:32,480 Is that what the freaks told you? 314 00:13:32,542 --> 00:13:34,818 We think Chris was pickin' on this Velardi kid. 315 00:13:34,977 --> 00:13:36,513 GIRL: Doesn't sound like him. 316 00:13:36,712 --> 00:13:39,022 Chris was in my Modern Lit class. 317 00:13:39,081 --> 00:13:40,958 He was like, you know, sensitive. 318 00:13:41,551 --> 00:13:42,723 Sensitive? 319 00:13:42,785 --> 00:13:44,594 He was. When we did poetry, 320 00:13:44,654 --> 00:13:47,100 he recited a Kurt Cobain song in class. 321 00:13:47,156 --> 00:13:48,863 When did he start pumpin' iron? 322 00:13:49,058 --> 00:13:50,935 Serious? Chris Skinner lifting? 323 00:13:51,827 --> 00:13:54,501 I guess you don't really know what anybody's really like inside. 324 00:13:55,131 --> 00:13:57,008 So there's nothing between him and the freaks? 325 00:13:57,099 --> 00:13:58,601 We would've heard something. 326 00:13:58,768 --> 00:13:59,974 Thanks for your help. 327 00:14:00,036 --> 00:14:03,848 Chris asks about counseling, he starts some weight lifting. 328 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:06,647 I don't see the bully. I'm seein' the 98 pound weakling. 329 00:14:06,709 --> 00:14:09,087 I just wonder who kicked sand in his face. 330 00:14:10,513 --> 00:14:13,119 Chris started showin' up to work out like a month ago. 331 00:14:13,182 --> 00:14:15,423 BRISCOE: Why a sudden interest in body building? 332 00:14:15,484 --> 00:14:18,897 Said he wanted to get cut. Then maybe the jerks in school would leave him alone. 333 00:14:18,955 --> 00:14:20,866 Which jerks are we talkin' about? 334 00:14:20,923 --> 00:14:22,994 Hey, man, in this place? Take your pick. 335 00:14:23,059 --> 00:14:24,470 Between you and me, what do you think? 336 00:14:29,031 --> 00:14:30,237 I don't know. 337 00:14:31,901 --> 00:14:33,505 Who you protecting? 338 00:14:33,603 --> 00:14:34,775 The kid who killed your buddy? 339 00:14:37,106 --> 00:14:39,450 I think Chris was having some problems with the freaks. 340 00:14:39,508 --> 00:14:40,851 Who in particular? 341 00:14:41,244 --> 00:14:42,518 There's like 10 or 12 of them. 342 00:14:43,179 --> 00:14:44,453 We need the names. 343 00:14:48,417 --> 00:14:50,795 You talked to my son at school already. 344 00:14:50,853 --> 00:14:53,163 BRISCOE: Look, we just need to ask a couple of follow-up questions. 345 00:14:53,222 --> 00:14:55,259 Uh-huh. You think Jon's involved? 346 00:14:55,324 --> 00:14:57,133 I'll take care of it, Sandra. 347 00:14:59,996 --> 00:15:02,203 The boy's body was found just down the block from here. 348 00:15:02,265 --> 00:15:04,506 It's probably a coincidence but we need to check it out. 349 00:15:04,567 --> 00:15:05,875 Well, what do you want to know? 350 00:15:05,935 --> 00:15:07,505 We'd rather talk to him. 351 00:15:07,570 --> 00:15:09,447 Right now, you'll have to talk to me. 352 00:15:09,939 --> 00:15:12,010 Where was your son Thursday afternoon? 353 00:15:13,209 --> 00:15:15,485 He needs an alibi? That'd be a start. 354 00:15:15,778 --> 00:15:18,349 (STAMMERS) Well, I think I'd like to see a lawyer first. 355 00:15:18,881 --> 00:15:21,327 I gotta tell you, you're not helping your boy like this. 356 00:15:21,517 --> 00:15:23,053 Do you have a business card? 357 00:15:26,789 --> 00:15:28,860 Detective Green, um, 358 00:15:28,925 --> 00:15:31,565 I'll call you when Jon's ready to be interviewed, all right? 359 00:15:32,028 --> 00:15:33,405 Good night. 360 00:15:35,064 --> 00:15:36,372 Bingo. 361 00:15:36,432 --> 00:15:38,742 Maybe somebody up here bought a Neptune bar. 362 00:15:39,735 --> 00:15:42,079 I was home all day Thursday. Why? 363 00:15:42,138 --> 00:15:45,381 Anybody come to your door around five, six o'clock sellin' candy? 364 00:15:45,541 --> 00:15:47,214 No. You know the Telfords? 365 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,783 Who, the family down the hall? Not really. 366 00:15:50,246 --> 00:15:52,385 Those Bronco Menthols? Yeah, man. You want one? 367 00:15:52,648 --> 00:15:54,127 Yeah, for later. 368 00:15:54,317 --> 00:15:55,990 You ever smoke out here in the hallway? 369 00:15:56,052 --> 00:15:57,793 My wife won't let me smoke in the apartment. 370 00:15:57,853 --> 00:15:59,196 Yeah? Where do you go? 371 00:16:00,289 --> 00:16:02,428 She makes me stand out here. 372 00:16:04,460 --> 00:16:06,462 BRISCOE: You always leave your butts on the floor? 373 00:16:06,595 --> 00:16:09,201 I know, I know. Super's been on me about it. 374 00:16:09,265 --> 00:16:11,404 Says he always has to mop up after me. 375 00:16:12,168 --> 00:16:14,546 I throw him an extra 20 around Christmas, you know. 376 00:16:14,603 --> 00:16:17,709 You hear anything unusual goin' on out here Thursday afternoon? 377 00:16:17,907 --> 00:16:21,286 I'm a percussionist. I've been workin' on some new material, man. 378 00:16:21,344 --> 00:16:23,381 I wouldn't have heard a cannon go off. 379 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,060 The cigarette ash we found in the stairwell 380 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:29,585 matches the tobacco residue on the outer garbage bag. 381 00:16:29,652 --> 00:16:32,826 The Telford kid dragged the body down the stairs and onto the street. 382 00:16:32,888 --> 00:16:34,561 Plus, the kid won't give us an alibi. 383 00:16:34,623 --> 00:16:36,398 Or his father won't give him a chance. 384 00:16:36,459 --> 00:16:37,767 What do we have for motive? 385 00:16:37,827 --> 00:16:40,239 The Telford kid's clique at school was giving Chris Skinner a hard time. 386 00:16:40,296 --> 00:16:42,936 He started pumping iron so maybe they'd stop hassling him. 387 00:16:42,999 --> 00:16:46,242 I'll talk to Carmichael. It sounds like enough for a search warrant. 388 00:16:46,702 --> 00:16:48,875 BRISCOE: Where's your son's bedroom? Jon's doing his homework. 389 00:16:50,139 --> 00:16:51,584 Police! 390 00:16:52,608 --> 00:16:54,349 Unlock the door, Jon. 391 00:16:55,177 --> 00:16:56,178 Bust it. 392 00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:02,154 Please, don't hurt him. 393 00:17:02,218 --> 00:17:03,492 Don't say a word, Jon. 394 00:17:04,987 --> 00:17:05,988 Homework, huh? 395 00:17:06,088 --> 00:17:08,364 "Biker Sluts Rock Vegas." 396 00:17:08,724 --> 00:17:10,135 Must be the new math. 397 00:17:10,259 --> 00:17:12,000 No place like home. 398 00:17:12,128 --> 00:17:13,334 He's a teenage boy. 399 00:17:13,696 --> 00:17:16,870 Oh, yeah? What's this? 400 00:17:17,867 --> 00:17:19,141 A zit remover? 401 00:17:25,741 --> 00:17:27,311 Murder in the second degree. 402 00:17:27,376 --> 00:17:29,788 How does the defendant plead? Not guilty. 403 00:17:29,845 --> 00:17:31,984 People request $500,000 bail. 404 00:17:32,081 --> 00:17:33,389 GRANICK: They're dreaming, Your Honor. 405 00:17:33,449 --> 00:17:35,224 CARMICHAEL: We have a weapon that matches the fatal wound. 406 00:17:35,284 --> 00:17:38,163 No blood was found on this weapon or in the defendant's apartment. 407 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,665 CARMICHAEL: There's evidence the victim's body 408 00:17:39,722 --> 00:17:41,326 was dragged through the defendant's stairwell. 409 00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:43,836 GRANICK: Tobacco residue that could have come from a million places. 410 00:17:43,893 --> 00:17:45,395 All they've got is coincidences. 411 00:17:45,461 --> 00:17:48,237 You get enough coincidences, they start to add up. 412 00:17:48,798 --> 00:17:51,301 Yes, they do. To $20,000. 413 00:17:56,238 --> 00:17:57,945 Can't fault Judge Fraser on bail. 414 00:17:58,874 --> 00:18:01,582 Can you put Telford and Chris Skinner together on the day of the murder? 415 00:18:01,644 --> 00:18:03,180 Nobody saw them together. 416 00:18:03,446 --> 00:18:05,687 And how'd he manage to clean up all that blood? 417 00:18:05,748 --> 00:18:07,853 He got an A in Home Ec. 418 00:18:08,484 --> 00:18:10,020 Or maybe he had help. 419 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,997 I never saw Chris or Jon that day. 420 00:18:13,122 --> 00:18:15,159 You stickin' with that? It's the truth. 421 00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:16,225 Then you're under arrest. 422 00:18:16,292 --> 00:18:17,965 You said you were just gonna talk to him. 423 00:18:18,027 --> 00:18:19,131 And he's not talking. 424 00:18:19,195 --> 00:18:20,833 So that makes him an accomplice to murder. 425 00:18:20,896 --> 00:18:22,967 So you and Jon are going upstate together. 426 00:18:23,165 --> 00:18:24,268 For a couple of decades. 427 00:18:24,332 --> 00:18:26,744 COVEN: Oh, please. My son didn't do anything. 428 00:18:26,801 --> 00:18:28,508 Except set the whole thing up. 429 00:18:28,570 --> 00:18:30,982 Jon killed Chris because he was bullying you, right? 430 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:34,111 That's your case? A second-hand motive? 431 00:18:34,275 --> 00:18:35,515 RYAN: It wasn't even like that. 432 00:18:35,610 --> 00:18:38,318 That's the only theory we have so we're runnin' with it. 433 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:40,917 I never even told Jon about Chris pushin' me around. 434 00:18:41,282 --> 00:18:42,784 I didn't want him to think I was a wimp. 435 00:18:43,918 --> 00:18:46,057 So what did you tell Jon? 436 00:18:46,621 --> 00:18:50,262 He talks to you, you forget about this accomplice nonsense? 437 00:18:51,526 --> 00:18:52,903 We'll see. 438 00:18:54,929 --> 00:18:56,431 (WHISPERS INAUDIBLY) 439 00:18:56,498 --> 00:18:58,478 I saw him on the street that day. 440 00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:00,638 All I said was Chris was in the neighborhood sellin' candy. 441 00:19:01,069 --> 00:19:02,139 Why? 442 00:19:03,004 --> 00:19:04,483 I knew Jon liked messin' with him. 443 00:19:04,706 --> 00:19:06,481 VAN BUREN: Messin with him how? 444 00:19:06,541 --> 00:19:08,851 RYAN: I don't know. Just givin' him a hard time. 445 00:19:08,910 --> 00:19:11,049 What did Jon say when you told him about Chris. 446 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,018 Nothin' about killin' him. 447 00:19:13,214 --> 00:19:14,215 Then what? 448 00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:19,491 He said, "I hope that faggot comes to my building." 449 00:19:22,657 --> 00:19:24,364 Not exactly a death threat. 450 00:19:24,425 --> 00:19:26,234 He was lying in wait for Chris Skinner. 451 00:19:26,294 --> 00:19:27,773 Because he has a sweet tooth. 452 00:19:27,829 --> 00:19:29,831 He enjoyed hassling the kid. 453 00:19:29,898 --> 00:19:31,969 Why not try out his toys on him? 454 00:19:32,033 --> 00:19:33,876 His parents know that he had these weapons? 455 00:19:33,935 --> 00:19:35,608 They were hanging on his wall. 456 00:19:35,670 --> 00:19:37,343 He ever threaten anyone else? 457 00:19:37,405 --> 00:19:39,316 So far, none of the kids are talking. 458 00:19:39,374 --> 00:19:41,047 And the people who aren't kids? 459 00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:48,584 Teaching creative writing is like being a therapist. 460 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:51,062 Some of the stuff they write would freak you out. 461 00:19:51,653 --> 00:19:53,724 What kind of stuff did Jon Telford write? 462 00:19:54,222 --> 00:19:55,724 Very disturbing. 463 00:19:56,257 --> 00:19:58,168 I saved one of his stories. 464 00:20:00,328 --> 00:20:03,207 "I sent my enemy's gibs flying through the air." 465 00:20:03,932 --> 00:20:05,172 Gibs? 466 00:20:05,233 --> 00:20:06,610 Body parts. 467 00:20:06,868 --> 00:20:09,781 "I spammed him with my pill, threw my grenade." 468 00:20:09,838 --> 00:20:11,613 "I fragged another fresh beer," 469 00:20:12,106 --> 00:20:13,744 "made another easy kill." 470 00:20:14,943 --> 00:20:16,479 Anthony Burgess would be proud. 471 00:20:16,544 --> 00:20:19,047 I wish Burgess was the inspiration. 472 00:20:19,113 --> 00:20:21,093 It's from a computer game called Terror. 473 00:20:21,216 --> 00:20:24,629 Jon told me he plays it on the Internet five, six hours a night. 474 00:20:25,353 --> 00:20:26,798 You mind if I borrow that? 475 00:20:26,855 --> 00:20:30,268 I called Jon's parents about it, but his father hung up on me. 476 00:20:32,327 --> 00:20:34,273 I didn't know what else to do. (SIGHS) 477 00:20:34,863 --> 00:20:38,709 You know, I still can't believe that Jon actually killed that boy. 478 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:43,414 "Then I laid a gash in the neck of Superfly Jones." 479 00:20:44,105 --> 00:20:45,550 Character from the game. 480 00:20:46,741 --> 00:20:48,277 We seized his computer this morning, 481 00:20:48,343 --> 00:20:50,721 and I found these video games on his hard drive. 482 00:20:50,879 --> 00:20:52,722 The violence looks so over-the-top. 483 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:55,852 That's what sells. Terror 2's the best on the market. 484 00:20:55,917 --> 00:20:58,659 The Marines use games like this to train their newbies. 485 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,926 Must be a male thing. 486 00:20:59,988 --> 00:21:02,025 My nephew has the old version. 487 00:21:02,090 --> 00:21:03,398 It gets to you. 488 00:21:03,858 --> 00:21:05,132 So you like this junk? 489 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:07,565 Lighten up, Abbie. He got me to try it one night. 490 00:21:07,629 --> 00:21:10,166 Three o'clock in the morning I was still hypnotized. 491 00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:14,139 Anything else interesting in his computer? 492 00:21:14,202 --> 00:21:16,614 I downloaded a bunch of e-mails for you. 493 00:21:20,441 --> 00:21:21,943 Anything useful? 494 00:21:22,010 --> 00:21:26,117 Let's see. Telford e-mailed somebody named DoomMaster. 495 00:21:27,315 --> 00:21:29,693 "Did you notice Skinner's faggot haircut?" 496 00:21:31,653 --> 00:21:33,655 Here's one about some kid named Leo. 497 00:21:34,889 --> 00:21:38,132 Telford was trying to figure out away to put urine in his locker. 498 00:21:43,131 --> 00:21:45,202 CLAYTON: I'm just glad he didn't kill Leo. 499 00:21:45,967 --> 00:21:47,810 Did you have problems with Jon? 500 00:21:47,869 --> 00:21:49,246 Not really. 501 00:21:49,337 --> 00:21:52,511 Oh, come on, Leo. It's no big deal. 502 00:21:53,841 --> 00:21:55,752 He'll barely talk to me about it. 503 00:21:57,145 --> 00:21:59,921 Maybe you'd feel better if you got it off your chest. 504 00:22:02,116 --> 00:22:03,891 Well, I'll tell you what I know. 505 00:22:03,952 --> 00:22:07,627 Last year in study hall, Jon put a dead rat in Leo's backpack. 506 00:22:08,156 --> 00:22:11,103 This year, he scratched the word 'faggot' on his locker. 507 00:22:11,626 --> 00:22:13,071 Did you complain to the school? 508 00:22:13,328 --> 00:22:14,636 Leo didn't want me to. 509 00:22:15,196 --> 00:22:17,039 He was afraid it'd make it worse. 510 00:22:17,098 --> 00:22:19,305 One of his friends told me about the locker. 511 00:22:19,734 --> 00:22:21,645 I decided to go see Telford's father. 512 00:22:22,036 --> 00:22:23,208 And how'd he react? 513 00:22:23,538 --> 00:22:27,315 He said I had no proof, and if I called the school he was gonna sue me. 514 00:22:28,543 --> 00:22:29,749 You sure it was Jon? 515 00:22:31,579 --> 00:22:34,116 CLAYTON: Leo says Jon's the only one who calls him "faggot." 516 00:22:35,116 --> 00:22:37,062 Look, it's no big deal. 517 00:22:37,118 --> 00:22:38,188 And it did not end there. 518 00:22:38,252 --> 00:22:40,391 Three weeks later, he locked him in a bathroom stall. 519 00:22:40,455 --> 00:22:42,594 Come on, Dad. I called Telford's father. 520 00:22:42,657 --> 00:22:44,762 He said Leo should learn to tough it out. 521 00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:47,298 Sounds like you were having a pretty rough time. 522 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:51,438 Let's face it, I'm short, 523 00:22:51,866 --> 00:22:53,140 I'm nerdy looking. 524 00:22:53,835 --> 00:22:55,712 Bullies like Jon are going to pick on me. 525 00:22:55,770 --> 00:22:57,181 Did he ever threaten you? 526 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:01,849 If he did, I need you to tell me. 527 00:23:03,544 --> 00:23:05,182 It's really nothing. 528 00:23:06,414 --> 00:23:07,757 Look, Leo, 529 00:23:08,716 --> 00:23:11,754 maybe it's okay to keep what happened to you a secret, 530 00:23:11,819 --> 00:23:13,628 but Chris Skinner was murdered. 531 00:23:20,228 --> 00:23:24,142 Jon once took out a knife and tried to pull me into his building. 532 00:23:24,198 --> 00:23:25,700 What happened? 533 00:23:26,134 --> 00:23:28,045 He said he had a room in his basement 534 00:23:28,136 --> 00:23:30,343 where he was gonna use me for sword practice. 535 00:23:31,172 --> 00:23:32,651 Then I ran away. 536 00:23:32,707 --> 00:23:34,618 Why didn't you tell me? 537 00:23:35,743 --> 00:23:37,620 What were you gonna do, Dad? 538 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,056 Call his father again? 539 00:23:43,518 --> 00:23:45,361 Which one is your storage room, Mr. Telford? 540 00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:47,900 Why should I help you? You're tryin' to lock up my son. 541 00:23:47,955 --> 00:23:49,798 You son is a predator. 542 00:23:49,857 --> 00:23:51,894 Why? Because he plays video games? 543 00:23:51,959 --> 00:23:53,233 BRISCOE: This is it. 544 00:23:53,561 --> 00:23:54,631 Give us the key. 545 00:23:54,696 --> 00:23:56,403 I don't have to. ED: You're right. 546 00:24:08,676 --> 00:24:09,950 What the hell is this? 547 00:24:10,011 --> 00:24:11,888 I brought it home from the store where I work. 548 00:24:12,013 --> 00:24:14,050 Couldn't you get any live volunteers? 549 00:24:14,615 --> 00:24:15,616 You knew about this? 550 00:24:15,716 --> 00:24:17,696 What's the big deal? Jon was practicing. 551 00:24:18,419 --> 00:24:20,626 Looks like he was gettin' pretty good at it. 552 00:24:25,026 --> 00:24:28,269 The People's motion should be denied in its entirety, Judge. 553 00:24:28,329 --> 00:24:30,673 What evidence are you seeking to introduce, Mr. McCoy? 554 00:24:30,765 --> 00:24:32,472 Jon Telford's practice dummy. 555 00:24:33,101 --> 00:24:34,637 Evidence of his Internet fantasies. 556 00:24:34,702 --> 00:24:36,181 Prior instances of his bullying. 557 00:24:36,304 --> 00:24:38,511 It's prejudicial, Judge. It's an attack on his character. 558 00:24:38,573 --> 00:24:41,952 He sliced up a mannequin in the exact manner Chris Skinner was murdered. 559 00:24:42,009 --> 00:24:43,579 It goes to modus operandi. 560 00:24:43,644 --> 00:24:46,488 Modus operandi implies a prior crime was committed. 561 00:24:46,647 --> 00:24:48,558 There's no law against defacing a mannequin. 562 00:24:48,616 --> 00:24:50,459 There are laws against possessing these kinds of weapons. 563 00:24:50,518 --> 00:24:52,589 Yes, and you're free to introduce the fact 564 00:24:52,687 --> 00:24:56,100 my client broke those laws if he takes the stand, which he's not. 565 00:24:56,157 --> 00:24:58,330 So Mr. Granick can portray his client as a choirboy? 566 00:24:58,493 --> 00:25:01,599 If he opens the door, Mr. McCoy it all becomes relevant. 567 00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:03,404 Now, until then, 568 00:25:03,531 --> 00:25:04,976 I'll permit you to introduce this... 569 00:25:05,032 --> 00:25:06,568 What do you call it? Kama. 570 00:25:07,168 --> 00:25:12,049 This kama. You can argue it's a unique weapon that inflicted a unique wound. 571 00:25:12,106 --> 00:25:14,450 Now, that's legitimate circumstantial evidence. 572 00:25:14,609 --> 00:25:15,986 The other stuff is out. 573 00:25:20,314 --> 00:25:23,261 Van Ness excluded all our bad acts evidence. 574 00:25:23,317 --> 00:25:25,058 He may as well have dismissed the case. 575 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,996 We have Ryan Velardi's testimony. 576 00:25:27,054 --> 00:25:29,557 Not unless you can talk some sense into his mother. 577 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,535 Ryan didn't see his friend Jon like he said. 578 00:25:34,629 --> 00:25:37,200 When he spoke to Ms. Carmichael, he was confused. 579 00:25:37,698 --> 00:25:39,507 He didn't seem confused to me. 580 00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,146 You threatened him with a murder charge. 581 00:25:41,202 --> 00:25:43,375 He was just sayin' what you wanted to hear. 582 00:25:43,437 --> 00:25:45,508 Did somebody get to him, Mrs. Velardi? 583 00:25:46,273 --> 00:25:48,776 If there's been witness tampering, we can make it stop. 584 00:25:48,842 --> 00:25:50,082 It's not that. 585 00:25:50,143 --> 00:25:52,054 So what's going on, Mrs. Velardi? 586 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:54,080 He's scared. 587 00:25:54,414 --> 00:25:55,415 Scared of what? 588 00:25:57,284 --> 00:25:59,594 If you don't help us, I'll prosecute you for tampering. 589 00:25:59,753 --> 00:26:02,165 Oh, first you threaten him, now you're threatenin' me? 590 00:26:02,255 --> 00:26:03,734 He's a witness in a murder case. 591 00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:05,963 I need his testimony to convict the killer 592 00:26:06,026 --> 00:26:08,370 I don't care. I'm not puttin' him in danger. 593 00:26:08,428 --> 00:26:10,169 We can protect him. 594 00:26:10,263 --> 00:26:12,004 You'll have to find somebody else. 595 00:26:12,199 --> 00:26:16,113 Mrs. Velardi, he's the only one who heard Jon Telford 596 00:26:16,169 --> 00:26:17,739 threaten to harm the victim. 597 00:26:19,105 --> 00:26:20,550 Please, Mr. McCoy. 598 00:26:21,141 --> 00:26:22,814 Mrs. Velardi, I'll subpoena him 599 00:26:22,876 --> 00:26:24,321 and put him in front of the jury. 600 00:26:24,377 --> 00:26:26,186 And he'll say he made a mistake. 601 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,224 His lawyer says he doesn't have to talk to you. 602 00:26:29,816 --> 00:26:31,591 We have nothing else to say. 603 00:26:37,591 --> 00:26:40,595 CARMICHAEL: Ryan Velardi was the lynch-pin of our case. 604 00:26:40,727 --> 00:26:43,230 Can you put the victim at Telford's building? 605 00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:47,077 The cops have been through it three times. Nobody saw him. 606 00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:48,639 ADAM: There was a blanket. 607 00:26:48,702 --> 00:26:52,047 Freshly dry cleaned. No hairs or fibers except for the victim's. 608 00:26:52,105 --> 00:26:55,348 This teenager commits the perfect crime. 609 00:26:55,408 --> 00:26:57,046 I know. It's hard to believe. 610 00:26:58,645 --> 00:27:02,491 CSU luminoled every conceivable spot in the Telford's building. 611 00:27:03,183 --> 00:27:04,594 They didn't find a drop of blood. 612 00:27:04,651 --> 00:27:08,793 We have the splatter games, the violent behavior, the illegal weapons. 613 00:27:09,456 --> 00:27:10,696 But there's no way to get it in. 614 00:27:10,757 --> 00:27:12,100 ADAM: Where'd he get the weapons? 615 00:27:12,158 --> 00:27:14,832 Mail order. Paid for with his father's credit card. 616 00:27:15,929 --> 00:27:18,933 (LAUGHS) Kid gets off, father buys his son a bazooka. 617 00:27:21,334 --> 00:27:23,575 (SIGHS) Charge the father. 618 00:27:24,571 --> 00:27:27,347 With providing the instrumentality? With murder. 619 00:27:28,575 --> 00:27:29,610 On what basis? 620 00:27:30,076 --> 00:27:31,578 Depraved indifference. 621 00:27:32,345 --> 00:27:35,019 Hold the father responsible for the criminal acts of the son? 622 00:27:35,482 --> 00:27:37,018 You don't think he's responsible? 623 00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:38,562 Morally, maybe. 624 00:27:38,618 --> 00:27:39,926 It's good enough for me. 625 00:27:39,986 --> 00:27:42,296 It's about time we knocked some sense into these parents. 626 00:27:43,857 --> 00:27:45,894 You're wielding a pretty big stick. 627 00:27:46,893 --> 00:27:49,499 They don't do the job puts it on us. 628 00:27:49,829 --> 00:27:50,830 Does it? 629 00:27:51,297 --> 00:27:52,674 Nobody's ever tried it. 630 00:27:54,668 --> 00:27:56,477 That ever stop you two before? 631 00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:05,082 What do you think? 632 00:28:07,447 --> 00:28:08,926 It makes me nervous. 633 00:28:10,216 --> 00:28:13,857 I don't know. Telford encourages Jon's aggressive behavior, 634 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,400 he arms him to the teeth. Jury might buy it. 635 00:28:16,456 --> 00:28:17,867 That's what makes me nervous. 636 00:28:17,924 --> 00:28:21,667 We try them together. All Jon's prior bad acts become probative. 637 00:28:21,728 --> 00:28:24,265 We don't get the father, at least we get the kid. 638 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,344 Bombs away. 639 00:28:31,171 --> 00:28:32,514 You're arresting me for what? 640 00:28:32,572 --> 00:28:33,778 For the murder of Chris Skinner. 641 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Why are you doing this? 642 00:28:35,141 --> 00:28:36,211 Turn around, Mr. Telford? 643 00:28:36,276 --> 00:28:37,550 Not until my lawyer gets here. 644 00:28:37,611 --> 00:28:39,249 You sure you want to do this in front of your son? 645 00:28:39,312 --> 00:28:40,416 Hey, get away from me. 646 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,050 Get your hands off me! Come on. 647 00:28:42,115 --> 00:28:43,958 Jimmy, go to your room now! 648 00:28:44,017 --> 00:28:45,018 I don't believe this! 649 00:28:45,085 --> 00:28:47,622 No, I didn't expect you would. Give him Miranda. 650 00:28:47,687 --> 00:28:48,961 You have the right to remain silent, 651 00:28:49,022 --> 00:28:50,433 which you should take us up on. 652 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:53,471 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law... 653 00:28:53,993 --> 00:28:55,666 Judge Fraser in arraignments 654 00:28:56,229 --> 00:28:58,334 didn't think our case was worth bail. 655 00:28:58,932 --> 00:29:00,172 His problem. 656 00:29:00,233 --> 00:29:02,770 Our problem is how to make a case against Telford. 657 00:29:02,936 --> 00:29:05,382 Make sure the jury knows he dropped the ball. 658 00:29:05,472 --> 00:29:07,975 And we get a conviction for bad parenting. 659 00:29:08,441 --> 00:29:10,421 He gave his son a sword, 660 00:29:10,777 --> 00:29:12,882 sent him out to practice neck chops. 661 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,885 Ah, bad parenting in the first degree. 662 00:29:15,949 --> 00:29:18,225 His indifference created the risk. 663 00:29:18,385 --> 00:29:21,059 Only a matter of time before that kid attacked somebody. 664 00:29:23,523 --> 00:29:26,970 Okay, suppose we pull it off. 665 00:29:28,595 --> 00:29:29,733 Who's next, Adam? 666 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:36,372 What did Potter Stewart say about pornography? 667 00:29:36,436 --> 00:29:38,780 "I can't define what it is, but I know it when I see it." 668 00:29:39,072 --> 00:29:40,278 Right. 669 00:29:41,141 --> 00:29:42,984 Telford could have stopped his son. 670 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:46,688 The way I read the law, it makes him a murderer. 671 00:29:47,647 --> 00:29:49,285 Maybe you should try the case. 672 00:29:49,349 --> 00:29:50,487 (LAUGHS) 673 00:29:51,418 --> 00:29:53,455 I have to do all the work around here? 674 00:29:54,788 --> 00:29:56,267 Do you think he's innocent? 675 00:29:56,323 --> 00:29:57,427 I don't. 676 00:29:57,490 --> 00:29:59,731 Well, I'm sure you'll do fine. 677 00:30:09,302 --> 00:30:11,304 JACK: The People will prove that Jon Telford buried 678 00:30:11,371 --> 00:30:14,818 a martial arts weapon called the kama 679 00:30:14,874 --> 00:30:16,785 into the neck of Chris Skinner. 680 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:19,520 The evidence will show that this crime would not have happened 681 00:30:19,579 --> 00:30:23,925 had it not been for the total indifference of Jon Telford's father. 682 00:30:24,584 --> 00:30:26,586 Had Robert Telford opened his eyes 683 00:30:26,653 --> 00:30:30,100 to what was going on with his son in his own home, 684 00:30:30,156 --> 00:30:32,067 Chris Skinner would be with us today. 685 00:30:34,394 --> 00:30:36,567 I'll be frank with you, ladies and gentlemen. 686 00:30:36,696 --> 00:30:39,040 We're entering uncharted waters here. 687 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,080 Once you bring a child into this world, 688 00:30:43,136 --> 00:30:45,173 there are obligations attached. 689 00:30:45,739 --> 00:30:48,913 Parents have a commitment to love and care for their child 690 00:30:48,975 --> 00:30:50,215 to nurture his growth, 691 00:30:50,276 --> 00:30:55,021 and they also have a commitment to us, to society, 692 00:30:55,081 --> 00:30:58,324 to make sure that their child obeys the law. 693 00:30:58,918 --> 00:31:02,695 You're going to hear evidence that Robert Telford dishonored both commitments. 694 00:31:04,891 --> 00:31:08,464 He nurtured his son's brutality 695 00:31:08,828 --> 00:31:10,774 and anti-social behavior. 696 00:31:11,531 --> 00:31:15,445 Warned that his son was aggressive, a bully, 697 00:31:15,802 --> 00:31:18,646 a boy obsessed with images of cruelty and violence, 698 00:31:18,705 --> 00:31:20,275 he shrugged it off. 699 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:25,145 He armed his son with instruments of death, 700 00:31:26,012 --> 00:31:29,892 and then he let him loose on Chris Skinner. 701 00:31:31,985 --> 00:31:35,057 I don't have to prove to you that Mr. Telford 702 00:31:35,121 --> 00:31:38,000 was a direct cause of Chris's death. 703 00:31:38,057 --> 00:31:40,230 If he could have foreseen that his son 704 00:31:40,293 --> 00:31:42,967 would use his weapons to harm another person, 705 00:31:43,163 --> 00:31:47,236 and if he set that chain of events in motion through his inaction, 706 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:52,046 the law says he committed depraved indifference murder. 707 00:31:53,006 --> 00:31:54,815 And in that case, 708 00:31:55,475 --> 00:31:59,287 the sins of the son should be visited on the father. 709 00:32:08,054 --> 00:32:11,194 Let's talk about what's really going on here. 710 00:32:12,225 --> 00:32:14,432 The People's case against Jon Telford 711 00:32:14,961 --> 00:32:17,635 is a handful of circumstantial evidence. 712 00:32:18,464 --> 00:32:23,311 Mr. McCoy wants to hold this pathetic bit of evidence together by one proposition. 713 00:32:24,304 --> 00:32:28,343 He's going to try to prove to you that Jon is a bad boy. 714 00:32:29,209 --> 00:32:33,282 He's asking you to convict Jon not on the evidence, 715 00:32:33,546 --> 00:32:35,321 but on his character. 716 00:32:35,381 --> 00:32:40,023 And he wants you to believe that Jon was so mean, so out of control 717 00:32:40,753 --> 00:32:43,324 that his father should be held legally responsible. 718 00:32:44,157 --> 00:32:47,468 The prosecution of Robert Telford is a ploy 719 00:32:47,527 --> 00:32:50,633 to admit bad character evidence against his son. 720 00:32:51,297 --> 00:32:53,504 Mr. Telford never heard of Chris Skinner. 721 00:32:53,867 --> 00:32:55,403 He was miles away when this happened. 722 00:32:55,468 --> 00:32:57,846 He didn't have a thing to do with this murder. 723 00:32:59,439 --> 00:33:01,441 Follow the ball, ladies and gentlemen. 724 00:33:01,875 --> 00:33:04,651 They can't prove a case against Jon directly, 725 00:33:04,777 --> 00:33:06,586 so they'll do it by innuendo. 726 00:33:06,679 --> 00:33:09,887 And for lack of an explanation for this terrible crime, 727 00:33:11,216 --> 00:33:12,661 they'll blame the parent. 728 00:33:13,952 --> 00:33:16,364 If you let them do this to Jon Telford, 729 00:33:17,556 --> 00:33:19,092 you'll be next. 730 00:33:19,691 --> 00:33:20,999 Thank you. 731 00:33:25,864 --> 00:33:29,175 The tobacco residue we discovered in the Telford's stairwell 732 00:33:29,234 --> 00:33:31,714 was identical to the residue on the garbage bag 733 00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:33,511 where we found the victim's body. 734 00:33:33,805 --> 00:33:36,843 And when you made that discovery, Detective, what action did you take? 735 00:33:36,909 --> 00:33:38,354 We obtained a search warrant, 736 00:33:38,477 --> 00:33:42,084 and we recovered a kama in Jon Telford's room. 737 00:33:43,915 --> 00:33:45,189 People's three. 738 00:33:46,618 --> 00:33:49,724 Was there any kind of forensic test conducted on this weapon? 739 00:33:50,255 --> 00:33:51,256 Yes. 740 00:33:51,356 --> 00:33:54,394 It was consistent with the fatal wound in the victim's neck. 741 00:33:55,794 --> 00:33:57,603 CARMICHAEL: No further questions. 742 00:33:59,364 --> 00:34:01,310 Was any of the victim's blood 743 00:34:01,366 --> 00:34:04,643 found in the Telford's apartment or stairwell, Detective? 744 00:34:04,703 --> 00:34:05,807 BRISCOE: No. 745 00:34:06,471 --> 00:34:07,677 How about on the kama? 746 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,310 No. 747 00:34:09,374 --> 00:34:10,876 You have children, don't you, Detective? 748 00:34:11,143 --> 00:34:13,123 Objection. JUDGE: Where are you going, Mr. Granick? 749 00:34:13,612 --> 00:34:16,525 The prosecution has raised the issue of parental responsibility. 750 00:34:16,648 --> 00:34:18,719 I'd like a little leeway to address their argument. 751 00:34:18,917 --> 00:34:20,487 Fine, Judge. But with this Detective? 752 00:34:20,552 --> 00:34:22,463 I'm going to give it to him Ms. Carmichael. 753 00:34:23,021 --> 00:34:24,932 You're the ones pushing the envelope. 754 00:34:25,691 --> 00:34:27,329 Answer the question, Detective. 755 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,270 I had two daughters. One of them was murdered. 756 00:34:31,997 --> 00:34:35,467 Because she turned state's evidence in a drug case? 757 00:34:36,635 --> 00:34:38,512 She was going to testify against a dealer. 758 00:34:39,271 --> 00:34:40,477 So she was selling drugs herself? 759 00:34:40,739 --> 00:34:41,945 Objection. 760 00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:43,244 Overruled. 761 00:34:46,812 --> 00:34:48,348 Yes, she was selling drugs. 762 00:34:48,981 --> 00:34:52,019 And as her father, under Mr. McCoy's theory, 763 00:34:52,284 --> 00:34:55,265 shouldn't you be held criminally responsible for her drug dealing? 764 00:35:00,959 --> 00:35:02,199 Criminally responsible? 765 00:35:03,562 --> 00:35:04,563 No. 766 00:35:05,330 --> 00:35:08,709 But I didn't give her the pills and teach her how to sell them. 767 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:12,878 No further questions. 768 00:35:20,779 --> 00:35:22,417 CARMICHAEL: Beside the locker incident, 769 00:35:22,614 --> 00:35:23,957 what other things did Jon do to you? 770 00:35:24,049 --> 00:35:25,653 LEO: Locked me in the bathroom. 771 00:35:25,817 --> 00:35:27,194 What else, Leo? 772 00:35:27,252 --> 00:35:30,461 He put a knife against my neck and tried to get me in his basement. 773 00:35:32,257 --> 00:35:35,204 He called me names. Like what? 774 00:35:36,461 --> 00:35:37,838 Do I have to say? 775 00:35:38,697 --> 00:35:39,732 It's okay. 776 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:43,505 Faggot. 777 00:35:44,269 --> 00:35:45,646 Homo boy. 778 00:35:45,704 --> 00:35:47,479 CARMICHAEL: Did you ever ask him to stop? 779 00:35:47,606 --> 00:35:51,144 Yeah. He just laughed at me. 780 00:35:51,643 --> 00:35:54,146 I told him my father was going to call his dad. 781 00:35:54,212 --> 00:35:56,419 He said, "Go ahead. Big deal." 782 00:35:57,783 --> 00:35:59,057 Thank you, Leo. 783 00:36:03,588 --> 00:36:06,068 Does your father let you play with video games at home? 784 00:36:06,124 --> 00:36:07,762 Yes. Like what, Leo? 785 00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:11,503 Well, uh, I have Death Match and Cyber Mafia. 786 00:36:11,797 --> 00:36:13,868 GRANICK: Did he ever buy you a toy gun or a knife? 787 00:36:14,366 --> 00:36:15,777 A Swiss Army Knife. 788 00:36:16,301 --> 00:36:19,214 Hmm, did you ever do anything bad? 789 00:36:21,473 --> 00:36:23,475 I don't believe it. Not one thing? 790 00:36:24,476 --> 00:36:27,355 (LAUGHS) Well, I broke my sister's glass animal collection. 791 00:36:28,213 --> 00:36:30,386 (LAUGHS) All right, you know the story of George Washington 792 00:36:30,449 --> 00:36:32,395 and the cherry tree, right? LEO: Yes. 793 00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:33,725 When he did something wrong, 794 00:36:33,852 --> 00:36:35,729 he took responsibility for it, right? 795 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:37,661 That's what the story's about. 796 00:36:37,923 --> 00:36:39,459 And when you broke your sister's things, 797 00:36:39,758 --> 00:36:41,533 you took responsibility, right? 798 00:36:41,626 --> 00:36:42,627 Right. 799 00:36:42,727 --> 00:36:44,570 You didn't say it was your father's fault, did you? 800 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:46,331 No. 801 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:51,371 It's a truth so simple, even a child can grasp it. 802 00:36:52,571 --> 00:36:53,845 Thank you, Leo. 803 00:37:04,583 --> 00:37:06,824 I'm a delivery dispatcher for Bloomingdales. 804 00:37:08,019 --> 00:37:11,694 My wife Sandra manages the produce department in a supermarket. 805 00:37:11,756 --> 00:37:14,464 And what kind of hours do you and your wife work? 806 00:37:14,526 --> 00:37:16,130 I work a lot of overtime. 807 00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:19,073 Sandra works a regular shift but sometimes it's nights. 808 00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:21,770 Did you receive any complaints about Jon from school? 809 00:37:22,601 --> 00:37:24,603 Just a call from that teacher that time. 810 00:37:24,903 --> 00:37:27,509 Oh. Well, she testified that you hung up on her. 811 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,481 Look, maybe I was a little thick. 812 00:37:31,143 --> 00:37:33,919 You know, she was talking about Internet this, Internet that. 813 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,389 (LAUGHS) I don't know much about it. 814 00:37:36,448 --> 00:37:40,988 (LAUGHS) Well, do you know about the video games your son plays? 815 00:37:41,052 --> 00:37:42,053 I know they're violent. 816 00:37:43,321 --> 00:37:46,495 When we were a kid, we used to play combat and blow up the Nazis. 817 00:37:47,025 --> 00:37:49,631 You know, the way I see it, kids are the same. 818 00:37:49,694 --> 00:37:50,934 Just the technology's different. 819 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:54,767 GRANICK: How did Jon get involved in martial arts? 820 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,002 I took him to karate lessons when he was little. 821 00:37:57,669 --> 00:37:59,671 And is that why he had these weapons? 822 00:37:59,905 --> 00:38:02,249 Uh, no. He quit the lessons. 823 00:38:02,407 --> 00:38:03,715 But he was gettin' picked on at school 824 00:38:03,775 --> 00:38:05,083 by some of the football players, 825 00:38:05,143 --> 00:38:07,953 so I just thought this might help him with his confidence. 826 00:38:08,813 --> 00:38:10,417 GRANICK: Nothing further. 827 00:38:17,055 --> 00:38:19,558 How did your son get this, Mr. Telford? 828 00:38:19,624 --> 00:38:22,468 Jon showed me how to order the karate gear on a computer. 829 00:38:23,261 --> 00:38:26,538 I gave him my credit card number to buy the stuff. 830 00:38:26,631 --> 00:38:28,975 This karate gear, as you call it 831 00:38:29,534 --> 00:38:32,174 you can't buy it in New York state, can you? 832 00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:35,274 ROBERT: A brother of mine lives in Virginia. We had it shipped down there. 833 00:38:35,774 --> 00:38:38,948 So you enabled your son to buy illegal weapons. 834 00:38:39,144 --> 00:38:40,521 Boys like that stuff. 835 00:38:41,012 --> 00:38:43,049 Didn't you ever have a slingshot when you were a kid? 836 00:38:43,114 --> 00:38:44,650 Made out of a tree branch. 837 00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:48,729 It wasn't contraband from an 'adults only' website. 838 00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:50,494 It taught him how to defend himself. 839 00:38:50,555 --> 00:38:53,502 Without any kind of training or supervision? 840 00:38:53,758 --> 00:38:55,237 He was practicing on his own. 841 00:38:55,293 --> 00:38:58,137 Only he was practicing to be a bully, wasn't he, Mr. Telford? 842 00:38:59,197 --> 00:39:01,302 When he was 13, some punk held 843 00:39:01,366 --> 00:39:05,280 a knife to his throat and took his money. He came home crying. 844 00:39:05,337 --> 00:39:07,943 So this is your idea of parenting? 845 00:39:08,006 --> 00:39:12,477 To send him out with this, and this, and this? 846 00:39:12,911 --> 00:39:15,892 Listen, it's a different world than when you and I grew up. 847 00:39:16,014 --> 00:39:19,325 A kid throws a punch now another kid pulls out a gun. 848 00:39:19,551 --> 00:39:21,030 JACK: How about teaching him not to fight? 849 00:39:21,086 --> 00:39:23,327 ROBERT: What, so they could rob his money again? 850 00:39:23,588 --> 00:39:26,194 I wanted him to stand up for himself. 851 00:39:26,524 --> 00:39:27,525 To be a man. 852 00:39:28,593 --> 00:39:30,368 They laugh at you when you say that now. 853 00:39:30,428 --> 00:39:32,237 But yeah. What's wrong with that? 854 00:39:32,530 --> 00:39:36,672 Was he being a man when he tortured Leo Clayton in school? 855 00:39:36,735 --> 00:39:37,941 ROBERT: Jon wouldn't do that. 856 00:39:38,003 --> 00:39:40,449 When he held a knife against his throat? 857 00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:42,245 I don't know the story on that. 858 00:39:42,307 --> 00:39:43,581 JACK: You knew he was carrying a knife. 859 00:39:43,675 --> 00:39:45,712 ROBERT: I knew he had one, but he knew not to use it. 860 00:39:45,977 --> 00:39:47,752 Well, he did use it, Mr. Telford. 861 00:39:47,812 --> 00:39:48,813 Isn't that what you taught him? 862 00:39:49,247 --> 00:39:51,090 No. To relieve his feelings 863 00:39:51,149 --> 00:39:52,719 of helplessness with aggression? 864 00:39:52,784 --> 00:39:54,092 That's just more PC crap. 865 00:39:54,219 --> 00:39:57,257 Or to retreat into his fantasy world on his computer. 866 00:39:57,322 --> 00:39:59,302 He's not the only kid playing these things. 867 00:39:59,357 --> 00:40:02,270 You stood there and watched while your son 868 00:40:02,327 --> 00:40:04,603 turned into a killer didn't you, Mr. Telford? 869 00:40:05,263 --> 00:40:06,901 That's ridiculous. 870 00:40:07,298 --> 00:40:09,710 I wanted my kid to protect himself. 871 00:40:09,935 --> 00:40:13,815 You were proud when he dished it out at school, weren't you? 872 00:40:13,938 --> 00:40:15,645 I wasn't proud. 873 00:40:15,774 --> 00:40:17,981 You know what those football players called him? 874 00:40:18,343 --> 00:40:19,515 Fluff boy and... 875 00:40:19,577 --> 00:40:21,579 Is that what this is about, Mr. Telford? You were ashamed? 876 00:40:21,646 --> 00:40:24,183 Where do you get off tryin' to tell me how to raise my kid, huh? 877 00:40:24,249 --> 00:40:25,489 You think it's easy? 878 00:40:25,951 --> 00:40:29,227 I love my boys! I did the best that I could! 879 00:40:29,286 --> 00:40:30,492 You did not! 880 00:40:31,121 --> 00:40:32,293 JUDGE: Sit down, Mrs. Telford. 881 00:40:32,356 --> 00:40:34,563 It's not true! He ruined him! 882 00:40:34,625 --> 00:40:36,468 JUDGE: Mrs. Telford. (JUDGE POUNDS GAVEL) 883 00:40:36,527 --> 00:40:37,904 I want a mistrial, Judge. 884 00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:41,109 Let's step outside. 885 00:40:46,937 --> 00:40:49,144 I'll instruct the jury to ignore the outburst. 886 00:40:49,206 --> 00:40:51,208 (LAUGHS) Oh, gimme a break, Judge. 887 00:40:51,275 --> 00:40:53,551 How can my clients get a fair trial after that? 888 00:40:53,611 --> 00:40:54,988 The defendant brought it on himself. 889 00:40:55,045 --> 00:40:56,649 The People oppose a mistrial. 890 00:40:57,214 --> 00:40:59,160 And you're not getting one, Mr. Granick. 891 00:40:59,216 --> 00:41:00,593 I'm not wasting two weeks' work. 892 00:41:00,651 --> 00:41:03,063 Judge... That means you have a problem. 893 00:41:04,755 --> 00:41:06,200 We'll recess till tomorrow. 894 00:41:14,231 --> 00:41:17,178 JACK: Jon admits to murder, I'll consider man one. 895 00:41:17,234 --> 00:41:18,941 And my husband gets off? 896 00:41:19,069 --> 00:41:21,140 Man two. Reckless homicide. 897 00:41:21,372 --> 00:41:22,612 I didn't kill the kid. 898 00:41:22,673 --> 00:41:25,813 You got Jon. You really need a pound of flesh from Mr. Telford? 899 00:41:25,876 --> 00:41:27,253 I'm not taking any deal. 900 00:41:27,611 --> 00:41:28,646 JACK: We'll see you tomorrow. 901 00:41:28,812 --> 00:41:30,314 SANDRA: What if I give you evidence? 902 00:41:30,481 --> 00:41:31,926 Will you make a deal with Jon? 903 00:41:34,451 --> 00:41:35,555 What are you doing? 904 00:41:35,619 --> 00:41:37,394 What I should have done all along. 905 00:41:37,755 --> 00:41:39,598 What kind of evidence, Mrs. Telford? 906 00:41:41,492 --> 00:41:42,835 About the blanket. 907 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,234 Shut up, Sandra. 908 00:41:44,294 --> 00:41:45,466 Please, Mrs. Telford. 909 00:41:45,529 --> 00:41:47,566 And I'll testify against my husband. 910 00:41:48,432 --> 00:41:49,536 About what? 911 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,910 About what you've done to us all these years. 912 00:41:53,337 --> 00:41:55,214 (CRYING) The weapons, the fighting. 913 00:41:57,107 --> 00:41:59,212 I've watched it long enough. 914 00:42:01,812 --> 00:42:03,018 You want me to go to jail? 915 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,287 I see what you did to Jon. 916 00:42:06,717 --> 00:42:08,822 You're not going to do it to Jimmy. 917 00:42:13,490 --> 00:42:15,527 Tell Mr. McCoy what happened, Jon. 918 00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:18,198 No, Mom. 919 00:42:18,362 --> 00:42:20,069 That's right, Son. Don't say a word. 920 00:42:21,732 --> 00:42:25,544 Tell him or I'll tell him about our blanket. 921 00:42:29,807 --> 00:42:31,445 Damn you, Sandra. 922 00:42:34,278 --> 00:42:35,757 It's over, Jon. 923 00:42:39,716 --> 00:42:40,888 Please. 924 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:43,926 Say what you did. 925 00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:58,777 I made Chris come into our apartment. 926 00:43:01,772 --> 00:43:04,480 I was just going to take his candy money, I swear. 927 00:43:07,544 --> 00:43:11,651 But he punched me in the stomach hard, and... 928 00:43:14,084 --> 00:43:16,291 The kama was on the wall, and... 929 00:43:18,922 --> 00:43:21,402 I grabbed it, and I swung it at him. (CRYING) 930 00:43:30,934 --> 00:43:32,470 Man one, 10-to-20. 931 00:43:36,707 --> 00:43:38,516 How can you do this to me? 932 00:43:48,919 --> 00:43:50,364 I didn't kill that kid. 933 00:43:52,589 --> 00:43:54,068 Man two, two-to-six. 934 00:43:55,192 --> 00:43:57,570 Or I put your wife on the stand. 935 00:43:59,596 --> 00:44:01,872 Would you rather risk a murder conviction? 936 00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:03,269 Take it, Dad. 937 00:44:05,002 --> 00:44:07,539 Oh, now you're tellin' me what to do? 938 00:44:07,905 --> 00:44:09,851 I'll do what I said, Robert. 939 00:44:11,675 --> 00:44:13,348 It's a fair offer. 940 00:44:15,145 --> 00:44:16,590 (SIGHS) 941 00:44:18,382 --> 00:44:20,521 Now or never, Mr. Telford. 942 00:44:30,127 --> 00:44:31,435 Fine. 943 00:44:42,172 --> 00:44:45,585 Sandra Telford had her husband served with divorce papers at Rikers. 944 00:44:46,076 --> 00:44:48,215 Sacrificed her marriage to save her sons. 945 00:44:48,812 --> 00:44:51,884 She spoke up sooner, she might have saved Chris Skinner. 946 00:44:52,616 --> 00:44:54,152 Want to put her in jail, too? 947 00:44:54,651 --> 00:44:55,891 Don't tempt me.