1 00:00:00,972 --> 00:00:02,713 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,774 --> 00:00:06,688 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,744 --> 00:00:08,587 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,646 --> 00:00:11,388 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,449 --> 00:00:12,689 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,218 --> 00:00:16,528 KAREN: There we were, all the women in the kitchen cleaning up, 7 00:00:16,587 --> 00:00:18,794 and all the guys watching the game. 8 00:00:18,990 --> 00:00:20,970 I always thought it'd be different when we had families. 9 00:00:21,025 --> 00:00:22,595 I don't think it even occurs to them. 10 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:25,197 Ha. It occurs to Dave. He just doesn't care. 11 00:00:25,496 --> 00:00:27,567 What pisses me off about it is if I bring it up, 12 00:00:27,632 --> 00:00:28,804 I'm a nag. 13 00:00:28,900 --> 00:00:31,107 I don't know. Maybe it's our own fault. 14 00:00:31,169 --> 00:00:32,307 We're the ones that let it happen. 15 00:00:32,370 --> 00:00:34,941 No, I think men just do a good job of convincing us 16 00:00:35,006 --> 00:00:36,144 that it's our fault. 17 00:00:36,207 --> 00:00:38,380 I mean, men can be such a pain in the ass. 18 00:00:38,443 --> 00:00:39,717 Oh. my God! 19 00:00:40,011 --> 00:00:41,046 Celia! 20 00:00:46,118 --> 00:00:47,927 I take back everything I just said. 21 00:00:49,088 --> 00:00:50,965 Two commuters off the 7:00 a.m. ferry, 22 00:00:51,023 --> 00:00:52,093 they're the ones who found him. 23 00:00:52,157 --> 00:00:54,034 Oh, that's a nice way to start the day. 24 00:00:54,093 --> 00:00:55,299 Guy was shot twice. 25 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,362 Once in the stomach, once In the chest. 26 00:00:57,429 --> 00:00:59,773 We found two shell casings on the ground near the body. 27 00:00:59,832 --> 00:01:02,073 So, it was close range. He's been here all night? 28 00:01:02,134 --> 00:01:04,375 Well, the body's cold, but with the wind chill off the river, 29 00:01:04,436 --> 00:01:05,437 it's hard to say. 30 00:01:05,504 --> 00:01:07,177 Wait. You said two shots? 31 00:01:07,940 --> 00:01:09,476 He got it again here. 32 00:01:09,708 --> 00:01:11,779 Ah. But there's no matching hole on the coat. 33 00:01:11,844 --> 00:01:14,256 Coat was open when he got hit the second time. 34 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,455 Coat was covering the wound when we got here. 35 00:01:16,548 --> 00:01:17,754 He have a wallet? 36 00:01:17,816 --> 00:01:19,022 We didn't find one. 37 00:01:19,118 --> 00:01:21,655 Still got his watch, though. Pretty fancy one, too. 38 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,696 So, the guy shoots him, he opens up his coat to take his wallet, 39 00:01:24,756 --> 00:01:25,962 make it look like it's a robbery, 40 00:01:26,024 --> 00:01:27,196 then he shoots him again. 41 00:01:27,259 --> 00:01:29,136 I hate these repeat offenders. 42 00:02:19,679 --> 00:02:23,456 BRISCOE: The M.E. says he checked out someplace between 6:00 p.m. and midnight. 43 00:02:23,516 --> 00:02:24,586 Any witnesses? 44 00:02:24,684 --> 00:02:27,392 Well, we handed a Polaroid around among some of the commuters. 45 00:02:27,453 --> 00:02:29,057 So far, nobody recognized him. 46 00:02:29,122 --> 00:02:31,124 No one called in any shots fired? 47 00:02:31,191 --> 00:02:33,330 It's a commercial area, it's pretty deserted at night. 48 00:02:33,459 --> 00:02:34,767 Well, what about forensics? 49 00:02:34,827 --> 00:02:36,773 Well, we got two blue fibers, 50 00:02:36,829 --> 00:02:38,206 and we got two matching slugs, 51 00:02:38,264 --> 00:02:40,676 one was found in a fence, the other one in the ground underneath him. 52 00:02:40,733 --> 00:02:41,803 Nine-millimeter. 53 00:02:41,868 --> 00:02:44,212 The print lab lifted a partial from one of the shell casings 54 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:45,340 but no hits. 55 00:02:45,405 --> 00:02:47,851 According to the M.E., he was shot once in the stomach, 56 00:02:47,941 --> 00:02:50,046 fell to his knees and then got hit a second time. 57 00:02:50,109 --> 00:02:51,986 So whoever it was, took their time. 58 00:02:52,045 --> 00:02:53,718 ED: But they didn't take his watch. 59 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:55,259 Not a very efficient robbery. 60 00:02:55,315 --> 00:02:57,818 Well, he was shot up close and there's no sign of a struggle, 61 00:02:57,917 --> 00:02:59,260 so it could be personal. 62 00:02:59,419 --> 00:03:01,865 Or maybe just a nasty surprise. 63 00:03:02,222 --> 00:03:04,031 We still don't know who this man is? 64 00:03:04,090 --> 00:03:06,593 Well, we know one thing. He was a cigar smoker. 65 00:03:07,227 --> 00:03:08,604 Found this in his coat. 66 00:03:08,661 --> 00:03:11,198 That's a Montecristo, series seven. 67 00:03:11,531 --> 00:03:13,602 It's Dominican. It's rare and very expensive. 68 00:03:13,666 --> 00:03:15,270 So people try to counterfeit them. 69 00:03:15,335 --> 00:03:17,372 So they put a second band underneath the first one, 70 00:03:17,437 --> 00:03:18,677 it has a registry number. 71 00:03:18,738 --> 00:03:20,445 Oh, so we can trace it. 72 00:03:20,506 --> 00:03:22,918 Yeah, it's always a plus when your vices pay off. 73 00:03:22,976 --> 00:03:24,284 Take this nasty thing. 74 00:03:28,015 --> 00:03:29,255 JAKE: Series seven. 75 00:03:29,316 --> 00:03:31,387 They're up to 40 bucks a pop now, Eddie. 76 00:03:31,518 --> 00:03:33,293 And me without my checkbook. 77 00:03:33,354 --> 00:03:36,301 Your partner here, used to buy them by the box. 78 00:03:36,490 --> 00:03:38,492 That was back in my high roller days. 79 00:03:38,559 --> 00:03:41,438 Hey, Jake, Montecristo tracked this registry number 80 00:03:41,495 --> 00:03:43,372 to a lot that was sold to your store. 81 00:03:43,831 --> 00:03:47,108 Well, I'm one of the only three places in Manhattan, that carries them. 82 00:03:47,167 --> 00:03:49,113 Yeah, well you ever sell any to this guy? 83 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:54,245 My only customers are three, four guys, who really know cigars. 84 00:03:54,308 --> 00:03:56,720 I mean... Maybe a poser now and then. 85 00:03:57,244 --> 00:03:59,656 Oh, and JR's ordered, five boxes. 86 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,086 A month or so ago. 87 00:04:01,315 --> 00:04:03,454 That's a cigar bar on 43rd and 10th. 88 00:04:03,617 --> 00:04:05,187 It's close to the ferry. 89 00:04:05,352 --> 00:04:07,593 All right, thanks, Jake. It's good to see you. 90 00:04:07,655 --> 00:04:08,963 Hey, Eddie. 91 00:04:10,057 --> 00:04:11,229 Cohibas, Cuban. 92 00:04:11,292 --> 00:04:13,203 Cheaper than series seven, but still, 93 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:14,603 manna from heaven. 94 00:04:14,728 --> 00:04:16,799 Nah. He's on a whole different budget now. 95 00:04:16,897 --> 00:04:18,342 JAKE: (LAUGHS) I see. 96 00:04:19,833 --> 00:04:21,107 VICTOR: Sorry, I don't recognize him. 97 00:04:21,168 --> 00:04:23,205 He might have bought one of your specialty cigars, 98 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:25,179 a Montecristo series seven. 99 00:04:25,239 --> 00:04:26,741 Maybe, our cigar steward can help you. 100 00:04:26,807 --> 00:04:27,877 James! 101 00:04:27,975 --> 00:04:29,716 These two detectives would like a word with you. 102 00:04:29,777 --> 00:04:30,812 Hi! 103 00:04:31,345 --> 00:04:32,915 Is this one of your customers? 104 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:35,085 Maybe a series seven kind of guy? 105 00:04:35,916 --> 00:04:37,327 He was in last night 106 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:38,623 with one other man. 107 00:04:38,686 --> 00:04:40,063 Bought three series seven. 108 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,326 Gave me a $40 tip. 109 00:04:41,555 --> 00:04:43,057 Did you get any names? 110 00:04:43,123 --> 00:04:44,466 But this one paid with a credit card. 111 00:04:44,525 --> 00:04:45,595 You still got the receipt? 112 00:04:45,659 --> 00:04:47,970 Sure thing. Haven't cashed out my tips yet. 113 00:04:48,697 --> 00:04:50,472 A $40 tip for three cigars? 114 00:04:50,532 --> 00:04:52,842 If he sells five or six a night, James, here 115 00:04:52,901 --> 00:04:54,574 makes more in a week, than we make in a month. 116 00:04:54,636 --> 00:04:56,240 JAMES: Here it is. Thanks. 117 00:04:56,671 --> 00:05:00,619 John Cooper. Corporate Amex. Dreisner Investments. 118 00:05:01,209 --> 00:05:02,586 Time 8:15. 119 00:05:02,644 --> 00:05:04,988 Uh, did he hang around at all after her paid? 120 00:05:05,046 --> 00:05:06,252 No, he just left. 121 00:05:06,381 --> 00:05:07,792 ED: Did he leave alone or with the other guy? 122 00:05:07,849 --> 00:05:08,850 Uh, alone. 123 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:11,523 ED: We're gonna need all your receipts from last night. Okay? 124 00:05:11,586 --> 00:05:12,758 No problem. 125 00:05:16,391 --> 00:05:18,029 DREISNER: John was one of our top analysts. 126 00:05:18,126 --> 00:05:19,366 Did he have any professional problems? 127 00:05:19,461 --> 00:05:21,065 I mean, anybody that held a grudge against him? 128 00:05:21,129 --> 00:05:22,199 Not here at Dreisner. 129 00:05:22,263 --> 00:05:24,334 John was one of those guys who walks into a room, 130 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,937 has everyone eating out of the palm of his hand, five minutes later. 131 00:05:28,002 --> 00:05:29,640 Well, what time did he leave last night? 132 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:32,082 I saw him get in the elevator, a little after 7:00. 133 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:34,677 I guess that was earlier than usual for him. 134 00:05:35,009 --> 00:05:36,511 BRISCOE: What time was usual? 135 00:05:36,644 --> 00:05:38,055 8:00. 8:15. 136 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:41,891 God, has anybody told his wife and kids yet? 137 00:05:42,751 --> 00:05:43,889 He was married? 138 00:05:43,985 --> 00:05:45,123 Three kids. 139 00:05:45,186 --> 00:05:46,722 They live up in Nyack. 140 00:05:48,356 --> 00:05:49,994 LESLIE: This is so strange. 141 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,802 I can't believe he's really gone. 142 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:55,837 We're very sorry for your loss, Mrs. Cooper. 143 00:05:56,164 --> 00:05:57,768 Where did you find him? 144 00:05:57,832 --> 00:05:59,470 Near the ferry terminal. 145 00:06:00,668 --> 00:06:02,909 Did your husband normally take the ferry? 146 00:06:03,938 --> 00:06:05,076 Yeah, he did. 147 00:06:05,206 --> 00:06:07,152 He was probably on his way home. 148 00:06:07,409 --> 00:06:09,480 I'm gonna let the girls get a snack. 149 00:06:09,844 --> 00:06:11,347 Come on into the kitchen. 150 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:14,053 Your sister's been a big help. 151 00:06:15,651 --> 00:06:18,928 Mrs. Cooper, did your husband take the same ferry every day? 152 00:06:18,988 --> 00:06:21,025 The 8:00 a.m. in and the 8:30 home. 153 00:06:21,390 --> 00:06:23,666 So somebody could have known his schedule. 154 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,197 I thought you said this was probably a robbery. 155 00:06:26,262 --> 00:06:28,538 ED: Yeah. We're just covering all the angles. 156 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:30,905 Well, she called the Nyack police and they said 157 00:06:30,966 --> 00:06:32,240 that there was no reason to worry. 158 00:06:32,301 --> 00:06:33,302 When was that? 159 00:06:33,369 --> 00:06:35,042 LESLIE: When John didn't come home. 160 00:06:35,104 --> 00:06:37,015 They said he had to be missing for 36 hours 161 00:06:37,073 --> 00:06:38,814 before they could investigate. 162 00:06:39,275 --> 00:06:41,016 ED: What time did you call? 163 00:06:41,077 --> 00:06:42,988 This morning. Around 4:00. 164 00:06:43,446 --> 00:06:46,154 Can I ask why you didn't call the police until then? 165 00:06:46,482 --> 00:06:49,861 Well, I put the kids to bed and fell asleep on the couch. 166 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:53,264 Woke up around 3:00 and realized, John still wasn't home. 167 00:06:54,223 --> 00:06:56,430 I waited a little while, then I called... 168 00:06:56,492 --> 00:06:57,903 And then she called me. 169 00:07:00,963 --> 00:07:03,739 Mrs. Cooper, did your husband have any enemies? 170 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:07,010 I mean, anybody that might want to hurt him. 171 00:07:08,037 --> 00:07:09,516 No one I can think of. 172 00:07:09,805 --> 00:07:12,115 GEORGINA: I think we should go spend some time with the kids now. 173 00:07:12,274 --> 00:07:13,685 I mean, if that's okay? 174 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:15,047 BRISCOE: Oh, sure. 175 00:07:15,244 --> 00:07:17,281 We'll be in touch if anything comes up. 176 00:07:21,183 --> 00:07:23,595 Hey, you want me to see if they'll hold the 8:30 ferry tonight? 177 00:07:23,652 --> 00:07:25,529 Yeah. If they let you bring your Dramamine. 178 00:07:25,588 --> 00:07:27,295 Well, hopefully, one of these Wall Street commuters, 179 00:07:27,356 --> 00:07:28,699 saw Cooper last night. 180 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:30,770 Even better if they saw him get killed. 181 00:07:36,666 --> 00:07:38,009 CARL: That's Coop there. 182 00:07:38,168 --> 00:07:39,545 It's unbelievable. 183 00:07:39,803 --> 00:07:41,510 We lost a lot of guys on 9/11. 184 00:07:41,671 --> 00:07:43,776 I kept setting up their beers for weeks. 185 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,875 And now this. 186 00:07:44,941 --> 00:07:47,251 I walked right past that body this morning. 187 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:48,550 Had no idea it was Coop. 188 00:07:48,645 --> 00:07:50,283 So, you guys didn't hear anything last night? 189 00:07:50,380 --> 00:07:52,291 CARL: I had music going, Knicks were on. 190 00:07:52,849 --> 00:07:54,260 Plus we had the game. 191 00:07:54,551 --> 00:07:55,655 Jeez, Hank. 192 00:07:57,220 --> 00:07:58,631 What game was that? 193 00:07:58,889 --> 00:08:00,766 CARL: We got a friendly little poker game, 194 00:08:00,824 --> 00:08:02,030 every Wednesday night. 195 00:08:02,092 --> 00:08:03,935 Sometimes if we dock at the last stop, 196 00:08:03,994 --> 00:08:06,565 one of the crew guys joins in, we keep playing. 197 00:08:06,963 --> 00:08:08,374 Coop never made the boat. 198 00:08:08,431 --> 00:08:10,001 Neither did O'Mann. 199 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,674 Shut him off, Carl. 200 00:08:11,735 --> 00:08:12,873 ED: Who's O'Mann? 201 00:08:12,936 --> 00:08:14,347 O'Mann's a jerk off. 202 00:08:14,404 --> 00:08:16,441 O'Mann likes to think of himself as the go to guy 203 00:08:16,506 --> 00:08:18,144 whenever a player runs out of cash. 204 00:08:18,208 --> 00:08:19,812 Takes the game a little seriously. 205 00:08:19,976 --> 00:08:21,751 Doesn't sound like a friendly game to me. 206 00:08:21,811 --> 00:08:23,051 Not between Cooper and O'Mann. 207 00:08:23,113 --> 00:08:24,854 They nearly had a fist fight last week. 208 00:08:24,915 --> 00:08:26,553 ED: What, did Cooper owe him money? 209 00:08:26,716 --> 00:08:27,820 50K. 210 00:08:28,151 --> 00:08:29,926 Uh, I'd take that seriously, too. 211 00:08:31,121 --> 00:08:32,327 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 212 00:08:34,224 --> 00:08:35,396 O'MANN: Who is it? 213 00:08:35,458 --> 00:08:36,960 The tooth fairy. Open up. 214 00:08:40,163 --> 00:08:41,836 It's 10:30. What's this about? 215 00:08:41,898 --> 00:08:43,070 ED: You Peter O'Mann? 216 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:44,134 Yeah. 217 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,238 BRISCOE: Put some clothes on, we're gonna take a little field trip to the city. 218 00:08:47,304 --> 00:08:48,305 You have a warrant? 219 00:08:48,371 --> 00:08:49,509 ED: We got a better hand than that. 220 00:08:49,573 --> 00:08:51,814 Five witnesses to you being a loan shark. 221 00:08:51,875 --> 00:08:54,014 Which means that if we come back with a warrant, 222 00:08:54,077 --> 00:08:57,025 it'll be to arrest you instead of just having a conversation. 223 00:08:57,081 --> 00:08:58,253 Let's go. 224 00:08:59,984 --> 00:09:02,055 Yeah, he owed me 50K, so what? 225 00:09:02,119 --> 00:09:03,427 So what? That's a lot of loot. 226 00:09:03,487 --> 00:09:04,795 Coop was good for it. 227 00:09:04,855 --> 00:09:06,129 Not anymore. 228 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:07,362 Look. 229 00:09:07,491 --> 00:09:09,994 I didn't even know he was dead until you guys showed up. 230 00:09:10,061 --> 00:09:11,938 I was out sick today. I have a cold. 231 00:09:11,996 --> 00:09:13,373 What about last night? 232 00:09:13,864 --> 00:09:16,310 I missed the boat. I ended up on a late bus. 233 00:09:16,367 --> 00:09:18,005 A lawyer on a bus? 234 00:09:19,604 --> 00:09:21,845 So what happened, you got into it on the pier? 235 00:09:22,273 --> 00:09:24,150 You were pissed because he wouldn't pony up, 236 00:09:24,208 --> 00:09:25,414 you pulled out your gun? 237 00:09:25,476 --> 00:09:26,682 Never happened. 238 00:09:26,744 --> 00:09:29,918 Your visa, puts you at the same Cigar Bar as Cooper, last night. 239 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:34,191 Yeah, I met up with him there. 240 00:09:34,719 --> 00:09:36,357 I had a reason for meeting up with John. 241 00:09:36,787 --> 00:09:38,095 And what would that be? 242 00:09:38,155 --> 00:09:40,260 I can't tell you that. It's privileged. 243 00:09:40,324 --> 00:09:41,394 ED: Privileged? 244 00:09:41,459 --> 00:09:42,802 As in attorney-client. 245 00:09:43,761 --> 00:09:45,331 I was John's lawyer. 246 00:09:51,502 --> 00:09:53,004 VAN BUREN: O'Mann was his lawyer? 247 00:09:53,070 --> 00:09:54,674 BRISCOE: Yeah, the guy says Cooper called him. 248 00:09:54,739 --> 00:09:56,116 Said he knew he owed him a lot of money, 249 00:09:56,173 --> 00:09:57,880 but he was in real trouble, needed help. 250 00:09:57,942 --> 00:09:59,785 VAN BUREN: Why? ED: He wouldn't say. 251 00:09:59,844 --> 00:10:01,050 He's claiming privilege. 252 00:10:01,112 --> 00:10:02,455 VAN BUREN: Well, his client's dead. 253 00:10:02,513 --> 00:10:06,120 BRISCOE: Doesn't matter. Whatever the issue is, it affects Cooper's estate. 254 00:10:06,283 --> 00:10:08,559 VAN BUREN: Do we have any idea, if he's telling the truth? 255 00:10:08,619 --> 00:10:10,565 Well, he gave up his prints. And? 256 00:10:10,621 --> 00:10:13,363 No match on the partial we lifted off the shell casing. 257 00:10:14,258 --> 00:10:15,794 Well, where is this lawyer now? 258 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:18,603 We released him. Told him not to make any plane reservations. 259 00:10:18,664 --> 00:10:21,201 Why would this victim consult a lawyer? 260 00:10:21,266 --> 00:10:23,837 We checked BCI, FBI, New York State Police. 261 00:10:23,902 --> 00:10:24,937 We got nothing so far. 262 00:10:25,003 --> 00:10:26,846 Well, maybe it was a civil matter. 263 00:10:26,905 --> 00:10:28,475 The guy's a criminal lawyer. 264 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:30,884 Well, Cooper was a stock analyst. 265 00:10:30,942 --> 00:10:32,353 What about the SEC? 266 00:10:36,381 --> 00:10:39,362 We opened an investigation on Mr. Cooper about six months ago. 267 00:10:39,418 --> 00:10:40,419 What about? 268 00:10:40,485 --> 00:10:43,056 He was one of the major analysts on Everson Technologies. 269 00:10:43,255 --> 00:10:45,201 The one that's on the front page of all the papers? 270 00:10:45,257 --> 00:10:46,998 Mmm-hmm. The one that just went under. 271 00:10:47,059 --> 00:10:48,800 My hugest headache right now. 272 00:10:48,860 --> 00:10:50,339 So why look into Cooper? 273 00:10:50,829 --> 00:10:52,740 Do you guys know what a stock analyst does? 274 00:10:53,098 --> 00:10:55,704 Strong buy, buy, hold, sell. 275 00:10:55,767 --> 00:10:57,940 This horse is two to one, that horse is three to one. 276 00:10:58,003 --> 00:10:59,004 It's the same thing. 277 00:10:59,071 --> 00:11:00,175 You're absolutely right. 278 00:11:00,238 --> 00:11:02,184 Those ratings only mean something 279 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,878 if the analyst is truly independent. 280 00:11:04,242 --> 00:11:07,086 Are you saying Cooper was in bed with Everson Technologies? 281 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:08,781 Well, there were rumors to that effect 282 00:11:08,847 --> 00:11:10,827 based on his analysis of their stock. 283 00:11:11,016 --> 00:11:12,518 'Cause he rated it a strong buy. 284 00:11:12,584 --> 00:11:13,619 Yes. 285 00:11:13,885 --> 00:11:16,764 And he was one of the only ones who continued to do so, 286 00:11:16,822 --> 00:11:20,201 even after questions started to arise about their accounting practices. 287 00:11:20,592 --> 00:11:22,936 So what's your read on Cooper? Was he crooked? 288 00:11:22,994 --> 00:11:25,270 Well, all I know is we've had this Everson employee 289 00:11:25,330 --> 00:11:26,707 over here for months, 290 00:11:26,765 --> 00:11:29,507 screaming about how Cooper must be on the take. 291 00:11:29,801 --> 00:11:33,078 BRISCOE: Any chance he would have taken matters into his own hands? 292 00:11:33,205 --> 00:11:34,275 He was pretty irate. 293 00:11:34,339 --> 00:11:35,409 ED: How irate? 294 00:11:35,474 --> 00:11:36,953 Irate, irate. 295 00:11:40,213 --> 00:11:42,090 I worked at Everson 32 years. 296 00:11:42,582 --> 00:11:45,791 Had a pension worth 900,000, now it's worth nine. 297 00:11:45,952 --> 00:11:48,990 Well, what makes you think that John Cooper had anything to do with that? 298 00:11:49,055 --> 00:11:51,626 He was fraternity brothers with The CFO of Everson. 299 00:11:52,225 --> 00:11:53,568 They played golf together, 300 00:11:53,626 --> 00:11:55,333 their kids went to the same school. 301 00:11:55,428 --> 00:11:57,567 Well, if playing golf with somebody means they're on the take, 302 00:11:57,630 --> 00:12:00,008 we'd have to arrest all of Wall Street. 303 00:12:00,066 --> 00:12:02,672 Cooper was one of the only analysts to keep his rating 304 00:12:02,735 --> 00:12:04,612 a strong buy as the stock tanked. 305 00:12:05,204 --> 00:12:07,912 He must have been taking kickbacks the whole time. 306 00:12:07,974 --> 00:12:10,113 I can't prove it, but I know it. 307 00:12:10,176 --> 00:12:11,280 Yeah, but why care? I mean... 308 00:12:11,344 --> 00:12:13,585 What effect could Cooper have all by himself? 309 00:12:14,147 --> 00:12:17,060 People look for any reason not to sell a high-flying stock. 310 00:12:17,950 --> 00:12:19,987 Dreisen's opinion matters. 311 00:12:20,987 --> 00:12:22,898 Where were you the night before last? 312 00:12:23,256 --> 00:12:24,599 My sister's house. 313 00:12:24,657 --> 00:12:27,297 There was a big party, for my niece's 18th birthday. 314 00:12:27,994 --> 00:12:29,371 Why, you think I killed him? 315 00:12:29,495 --> 00:12:32,476 Well, you do seem to be worked up into a lather over the guy. 316 00:12:32,532 --> 00:12:35,274 Cooper helped keep the stock price artificially high 317 00:12:35,334 --> 00:12:37,371 so company insiders could cash out. 318 00:12:37,937 --> 00:12:39,939 Leave the rest of us holding the bag. 319 00:12:40,573 --> 00:12:43,884 I can think of 20,000 people who'd like to see him six feet under. 320 00:12:45,211 --> 00:12:47,521 The guy seemed pissed, but he didn't seem homicidal. 321 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:49,958 So what now? 20,000 background checks? 322 00:12:50,016 --> 00:12:51,620 No. We narrow it down. 323 00:12:51,851 --> 00:12:54,127 He went to the SEC to complain about Cooper. 324 00:12:54,187 --> 00:12:55,825 Maybe the other's went directly to him. 325 00:12:55,888 --> 00:12:57,231 Let's talk to his secretary, 326 00:12:57,290 --> 00:12:59,292 see who Cooper's other fans were. 327 00:13:00,226 --> 00:13:02,639 I took over 50 calls a day from company clients 328 00:13:02,696 --> 00:13:05,609 demanding to speak with John, once Everson's stock tanked. 329 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:07,437 So much for narrowing it down. 330 00:13:07,501 --> 00:13:10,141 Were there any unusual calls the day he was murdered? 331 00:13:10,704 --> 00:13:13,048 The SEC called at 11:15 a.m. 332 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:14,312 Well, that's Angela Harkin. 333 00:13:14,374 --> 00:13:15,375 That's right. 334 00:13:15,442 --> 00:13:18,218 He was in a meeting, but he had me call her back about 15 minutes later. 335 00:13:18,378 --> 00:13:19,914 They talked for awhile. 336 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,889 BRISCOE: Anything else out of the ordinary? 337 00:13:21,949 --> 00:13:23,053 Not really. 338 00:13:23,650 --> 00:13:26,654 Well, right after, he hung up with the SEC, 339 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,200 he had me set up a lunch meeting with Justin Brenner. 340 00:13:29,623 --> 00:13:30,931 Who's Justin Brenner? 341 00:13:30,991 --> 00:13:33,130 The CFO of Everson Technologies. 342 00:13:34,428 --> 00:13:35,736 Did Mr. Cooper make the meeting? 343 00:13:35,796 --> 00:13:38,743 Yes. Left about 12:45. 344 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:41,479 He happen to mention what it was about? 345 00:13:41,535 --> 00:13:43,242 No, but it seemed important. 346 00:13:43,303 --> 00:13:46,011 He told me not to patch any calls through to his cell. 347 00:13:46,773 --> 00:13:49,185 I'm guessing they weren't talking about golf. 348 00:13:52,145 --> 00:13:54,386 BRENNER: John Cooper and I knew each other socially. That's all. 349 00:13:54,681 --> 00:13:55,989 When was the last time you saw him? 350 00:13:56,049 --> 00:13:57,528 I haven't seen him in days. 351 00:13:58,619 --> 00:14:00,428 BRISCOE: Well, we know you took a phone call from him 352 00:14:00,487 --> 00:14:01,761 the day before yesterday. 353 00:14:01,822 --> 00:14:03,324 And we know you had lunch with him. 354 00:14:03,390 --> 00:14:04,892 We traced your credit card 355 00:14:04,958 --> 00:14:07,404 and your waiter was kind enough to identify you. 356 00:14:07,761 --> 00:14:09,035 This is ridiculous. 357 00:14:09,463 --> 00:14:10,703 I had lunch with him, so what? 358 00:14:10,764 --> 00:14:11,902 So, you had lunch with a guy, 359 00:14:11,965 --> 00:14:14,104 right after he talks to the SEC 360 00:14:14,167 --> 00:14:16,738 about allegations that you two were in bed together. 361 00:14:16,803 --> 00:14:18,476 ED: And then he ends up getting killed. 362 00:14:18,538 --> 00:14:21,417 You know, having the SEC breathing down your neck is one thing, 363 00:14:21,475 --> 00:14:23,615 but this is a homicide investigation. 364 00:14:24,312 --> 00:14:25,848 This has gotten so out of hand. 365 00:14:25,914 --> 00:14:27,655 ED: This will get so much more out of hand 366 00:14:27,749 --> 00:14:30,491 if I gotta drag your ass out of here in handcuffs. 367 00:14:32,253 --> 00:14:34,563 I didn't have anything to do with John Cooper's death. 368 00:14:34,622 --> 00:14:36,898 Then why lie about going to lunch with him? 369 00:14:38,059 --> 00:14:40,335 Mr. Cooper's firm earns a substantial percentage 370 00:14:40,428 --> 00:14:43,102 underwriting bond offerings for Everson technologies. 371 00:14:43,598 --> 00:14:46,044 He called on Wednesday, said the SEC had contacted him. 372 00:14:46,267 --> 00:14:47,268 And that scared you? 373 00:14:47,402 --> 00:14:48,506 Of course, it did. 374 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:50,406 BRISCOE: So what'd you do to keep his mouth shut? 375 00:14:50,538 --> 00:14:51,778 I didn't do anything, 376 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:55,082 except to assure him that we appreciated his strong buy ratings 377 00:14:55,143 --> 00:14:56,645 throughout the past few months. 378 00:14:56,711 --> 00:14:59,624 And I told him that Everson would guarantee Dreisner's underwriting fees 379 00:14:59,681 --> 00:15:01,354 despite any bankruptcy filings. 380 00:15:01,416 --> 00:15:03,657 The guy's license might have been in jeopardy. 381 00:15:03,718 --> 00:15:06,164 I think he might have wanted a little more assurance than that. 382 00:15:06,254 --> 00:15:08,894 I didn't need to give it. He was a partner at Dreisner. 383 00:15:10,925 --> 00:15:12,427 He shared in the profits. 384 00:15:12,627 --> 00:15:15,506 Look, why would I kill John? 385 00:15:15,997 --> 00:15:17,977 He works with a whole team of people. 386 00:15:18,032 --> 00:15:19,705 I don't know how many of them knew what was going on. 387 00:15:19,767 --> 00:15:22,008 Or how many were benefiting from our business. 388 00:15:23,938 --> 00:15:26,748 This is not something that can be solved by killing a man. 389 00:15:26,975 --> 00:15:29,785 Oh, I don't know, I think if we shot a couple of your board members, 390 00:15:29,844 --> 00:15:32,290 this kind of thing probably wouldn't happen again. 391 00:15:35,249 --> 00:15:37,855 I'll tell you the same thing I told the SEC. 392 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,799 Feel free to investigate everything I ever wrote, said, did. 393 00:15:42,357 --> 00:15:44,997 I had no idea what was going on with Everson Technologies. 394 00:15:45,059 --> 00:15:46,403 Wait. How could you not? 395 00:15:46,462 --> 00:15:48,066 You were John Cooper's second in command. 396 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:51,407 And I was the one who kept questioning John's recommendations. 397 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,302 But he met with company officials, 398 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,007 so I presumed he knew things I didn't. 399 00:15:55,204 --> 00:15:57,115 What about other people on the team? 400 00:15:57,272 --> 00:15:58,717 Well, if there was anything going on, 401 00:15:58,774 --> 00:16:00,981 I can't imagine anyone else was in on it. 402 00:16:01,043 --> 00:16:04,047 None of us told friends and family to sell Everson stock, 403 00:16:04,113 --> 00:16:06,719 which we would have, if we knew the stock was worthless. 404 00:16:06,782 --> 00:16:09,262 BRISCOE: And Cooper told his family to sell? 405 00:16:09,318 --> 00:16:11,423 Actually, I don't think he told them anything. 406 00:16:11,487 --> 00:16:14,764 So, what? He just let them lose their shirts along with everybody else? 407 00:16:15,724 --> 00:16:18,068 ED: Did anybody in Cooper's family get hit really hard? 408 00:16:18,127 --> 00:16:20,232 His brother-in-law, Russell Woods. 409 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:23,840 He bought 2,500 shares at $81 a share. 410 00:16:24,133 --> 00:16:26,079 Now it's worth about 90 cents. 411 00:16:26,502 --> 00:16:28,106 He lost almost $200,000. 412 00:16:31,273 --> 00:16:33,776 Now that sure would make me want to hurt somebody. 413 00:16:33,842 --> 00:16:36,721 Hey, I'd kill one of my ex brother-in-laws for free. 414 00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:39,620 Apparently when the stock started to tank, 415 00:16:39,681 --> 00:16:42,127 for whatever reason, Cooper wouldn't return Woods' calls. 416 00:16:42,184 --> 00:16:43,754 So, why didn't he just tell him to sell? 417 00:16:43,819 --> 00:16:46,561 Well, maybe he thought that if he told his family members to sell, 418 00:16:46,622 --> 00:16:48,067 would make him look suspicious. 419 00:16:48,123 --> 00:16:49,625 Or maybe he's just a jerk. 420 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:52,238 Well, did this brother-in-law know about the mutually 421 00:16:52,294 --> 00:16:54,035 beneficial arrangement between 422 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:56,303 Everson and Driesner Investments? 423 00:16:56,365 --> 00:16:57,469 That's what we'd like to know. 424 00:16:57,533 --> 00:16:59,240 Well, pick him up and find out. 425 00:17:03,705 --> 00:17:04,809 Hey, Lennie. 426 00:17:05,307 --> 00:17:06,479 Check out what he's wearing. 427 00:17:06,542 --> 00:17:07,612 Blue coat. 428 00:17:08,812 --> 00:17:10,314 BRISCOE: Russell Woods? Yes. 429 00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:11,790 NYPD. 430 00:17:12,382 --> 00:17:13,588 The police. Yeah, man. 431 00:17:13,650 --> 00:17:14,993 We need to talk to you about your brother-in-law. 432 00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:16,119 What do you wanna know? 433 00:17:16,186 --> 00:17:17,426 We just have some follow-up. 434 00:17:17,487 --> 00:17:18,864 You want to come with us down to the precinct? 435 00:17:18,922 --> 00:17:19,957 Why? 436 00:17:20,023 --> 00:17:23,095 Well, we can talk about it right here, if you'd rather not. 437 00:17:23,827 --> 00:17:26,239 No, no. I guess the precinct would be better. 438 00:17:26,496 --> 00:17:27,998 Cover me, will you, Tommy? TOMMY: Sure. 439 00:17:28,198 --> 00:17:29,734 And call my wife. All right. 440 00:17:32,535 --> 00:17:35,516 BRISCOE: That was a whole lot of money you lost on Everson technologies. 441 00:17:35,672 --> 00:17:38,118 ED: It could've been your kids' college savings. 442 00:17:38,441 --> 00:17:39,749 It was a lot of money. 443 00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:41,914 So maybe you wanted some payback. 444 00:17:42,579 --> 00:17:43,580 I don't know what you mean. 445 00:17:43,646 --> 00:17:44,954 Oh, I don't know. 446 00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:47,460 I find out my brother-in-law set me up, 447 00:17:47,517 --> 00:17:49,258 risked my kid's future, 448 00:17:49,386 --> 00:17:50,763 I think I might be a little angry. 449 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:53,300 Especially if this brother-in-law kept recommending stock to me 450 00:17:53,356 --> 00:17:55,734 even after he knew the company was tanking. 451 00:17:55,859 --> 00:17:56,860 John did that? 452 00:17:56,926 --> 00:17:59,634 Oh, come on. You know how much he made off of Everson. 453 00:18:00,130 --> 00:18:01,666 I have no idea what you're talking about. 454 00:18:02,365 --> 00:18:05,073 He was paid to keep recommending Everson stock. 455 00:18:05,535 --> 00:18:07,037 I never knew that 456 00:18:07,837 --> 00:18:11,216 Here's this rich stock analyst married to my wife's sister. 457 00:18:11,641 --> 00:18:13,678 Yeah, and me just a working stiff hoping to make 458 00:18:13,743 --> 00:18:15,586 a little bit off a tip from John. 459 00:18:15,879 --> 00:18:18,382 Only you find out that he's artificially propping up 460 00:18:18,448 --> 00:18:20,450 Everson's stock prices on your back. 461 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:23,162 So you confront him. You demand your money back. 462 00:18:23,219 --> 00:18:25,995 Look, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. 463 00:18:26,055 --> 00:18:27,591 I don't, I really don't. 464 00:18:28,158 --> 00:18:30,263 Well, now, that's really funny, Mr. Woods. 465 00:18:30,327 --> 00:18:33,433 Because we just matched your finger prints, from your job records, 466 00:18:33,497 --> 00:18:35,909 to one found on a shell casing, at the scene. 467 00:18:35,966 --> 00:18:39,072 And I'm betting we can match a fiber off your coat. 468 00:18:40,171 --> 00:18:41,980 I think you just lost a little bit more 469 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:43,609 than a 401K, buddy. 470 00:18:44,408 --> 00:18:45,409 What are you doing? 471 00:18:45,476 --> 00:18:46,887 Russell Woods, you're under arrest, 472 00:18:46,944 --> 00:18:48,685 for the murder of John Cooper. 473 00:18:48,779 --> 00:18:50,156 You have the right to remain silent. 474 00:18:53,651 --> 00:18:56,359 Woods lawyered up once we placed him under arrest. 475 00:18:56,787 --> 00:18:58,596 Did he make any kind of statement before that? 476 00:18:58,756 --> 00:19:00,133 Nothing but a whole lot of acting 477 00:19:00,191 --> 00:19:01,864 like he didn't know what we were talking about. 478 00:19:01,926 --> 00:19:04,463 Well, how did he act when you told him about the fingerprint? 479 00:19:04,528 --> 00:19:06,769 That's pretty much when he stopped talking. 480 00:19:06,831 --> 00:19:07,866 SERENA: Where are we on motive? 481 00:19:07,932 --> 00:19:09,605 I mean, he obviously didn't kill his brother-in-law 482 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:11,203 because of a few unreturned phone calls. 483 00:19:11,268 --> 00:19:13,407 Well, the man lost his life savings. 484 00:19:13,504 --> 00:19:14,505 SERENA: Yeah, but why now? 485 00:19:14,638 --> 00:19:16,083 ED: The papers just started running stories 486 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:18,313 that the company was filing for bankruptcy. 487 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:19,581 BRISCOE: Yeah, which means, he probably knew 488 00:19:19,643 --> 00:19:21,748 he'd never be able to recoup his losses. 489 00:19:21,812 --> 00:19:24,258 Well and we figured once he realized that, 490 00:19:24,348 --> 00:19:26,555 it turned into whole new level of rage. 491 00:19:26,851 --> 00:19:29,491 Well, it sounds like I should have a talk with the victim's wife 492 00:19:29,553 --> 00:19:31,999 find out what kind of relationship these two had. 493 00:19:33,524 --> 00:19:35,834 I just think you have the wrong man. That's all I'm saying. 494 00:19:35,893 --> 00:19:39,636 I understand that it's hard to accept that your brother-in-law could do this, 495 00:19:39,697 --> 00:19:41,973 but we have pretty hard evidence against him. 496 00:19:42,399 --> 00:19:43,901 I can't believe that's true. 497 00:19:44,935 --> 00:19:47,211 We found his fingerprint, on the shell casing. 498 00:19:47,705 --> 00:19:48,706 What? 499 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:50,978 And a fiber that matched his work coat. 500 00:19:51,175 --> 00:19:53,247 Oh. my God! 501 00:19:54,346 --> 00:19:55,791 So, Mrs. Cooper, I have to ask you... 502 00:19:55,847 --> 00:19:57,349 Maybe someone's framing him. 503 00:19:57,415 --> 00:19:58,894 Have you looked into that? 504 00:20:00,986 --> 00:20:03,091 Did you ever hear your brother-in-law talk to your husband 505 00:20:03,154 --> 00:20:04,724 about Everson Technologies? 506 00:20:04,856 --> 00:20:06,335 Everson Technologies? 507 00:20:06,491 --> 00:20:08,061 What has that got to do with anything? 508 00:20:08,126 --> 00:20:10,163 Russell lost his entire Investment. 509 00:20:11,062 --> 00:20:13,133 And you think that's why he killed John? 510 00:20:14,566 --> 00:20:17,240 He lost his savings, his future, his retirement. 511 00:20:17,302 --> 00:20:20,112 No. You don't know Russell. He's a gentle person. 512 00:20:21,473 --> 00:20:24,147 Well, everybody has their limits, Mrs. Cooper. It was a lot of money. 513 00:20:24,209 --> 00:20:27,315 I never heard Russell ever say anything about money to John. 514 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:28,619 It just wasn't like him. 515 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,661 In fact, Russell and Georgina have offered to help me. 516 00:20:33,718 --> 00:20:34,719 Mom? 517 00:20:34,786 --> 00:20:36,060 LESLIE: Everything's okay, honey. 518 00:20:36,121 --> 00:20:39,193 This lady's just asking me some questions about Uncle Russell. 519 00:20:40,725 --> 00:20:42,602 Why don't you go start your homework. 520 00:20:42,794 --> 00:20:44,239 I'll be there in a minute. 521 00:20:48,099 --> 00:20:49,908 He's had a pretty rough time. 522 00:20:51,002 --> 00:20:52,276 I understand. 523 00:20:53,538 --> 00:20:55,575 You know, I should probably start dinner. 524 00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:00,512 I don't know, it was just something about the way she was acting. 525 00:21:00,578 --> 00:21:02,524 Like she was more upset about her brother-in-law's arrest 526 00:21:02,581 --> 00:21:04,322 than she was about her own husband. 527 00:21:04,382 --> 00:21:05,725 She could be in shock. 528 00:21:05,784 --> 00:21:06,956 Maybe you're right. 529 00:21:07,452 --> 00:21:09,762 How strongly do you feel about this? 530 00:21:09,821 --> 00:21:12,802 It's just my instinct tells me there's more going on here. 531 00:21:13,024 --> 00:21:14,128 Then go with it. 532 00:21:14,192 --> 00:21:16,764 Have Briscoe and Green follow-up with the neighbors. 533 00:21:17,396 --> 00:21:18,568 Thanks, Jack. Yeah. 534 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,340 How well did you know them? 535 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,108 Mostly through our kids. I have a boy their son's age. 536 00:21:24,303 --> 00:21:25,941 We talk at school and things like that. 537 00:21:26,005 --> 00:21:27,143 What about the husband? 538 00:21:27,206 --> 00:21:28,810 He never came to those things. 539 00:21:28,874 --> 00:21:31,150 Not much worse than the other Dads, though. If you know what I mean. 540 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:32,314 Maybe they're just working. 541 00:21:32,378 --> 00:21:33,413 Maybe. 542 00:21:33,479 --> 00:21:34,617 What about the Cooper's relationship? 543 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,681 What do you mean? 544 00:21:35,748 --> 00:21:37,750 I mean, how would you describe their marriage. Was it stable? 545 00:21:37,817 --> 00:21:39,763 (SIGHS) Now and again we heard them fighting. 546 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:41,023 What? From across the street? 547 00:21:41,087 --> 00:21:42,430 It's a small neighborhood. 548 00:21:42,488 --> 00:21:43,865 Sometimes it was pretty hard to ignore. 549 00:21:43,923 --> 00:21:46,563 In fact, I heard it through the grapevine that they were headed for divorce. 550 00:21:46,626 --> 00:21:47,969 ED: When did you hear that? 551 00:21:48,027 --> 00:21:49,335 Couple of years ago. 552 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:52,205 I guess kids have a way of making you work things out. 553 00:21:54,567 --> 00:21:55,978 She filed for divorce three years ago. 554 00:21:56,035 --> 00:21:57,412 On what grounds? 555 00:21:57,570 --> 00:21:58,913 Emotional distress. 556 00:21:59,071 --> 00:22:00,516 That's the catchall. 557 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,350 She withdrew her petition, a few months later. 558 00:22:03,542 --> 00:22:05,988 People change their minds all the time. 559 00:22:06,045 --> 00:22:08,651 Especially if murdering her husband might be an easier option 560 00:22:08,714 --> 00:22:10,455 than divorcing him. 561 00:22:11,650 --> 00:22:14,722 We still have a few more days before we go to grand jury. 562 00:22:14,787 --> 00:22:16,164 Stay on it. 563 00:22:16,555 --> 00:22:17,966 Look at this. Calls from the Cooper house 564 00:22:18,024 --> 00:22:19,765 to Russell Woods over the past two weeks. 565 00:22:19,825 --> 00:22:22,396 Well, it could just be two sisters gabbing on the phone. 566 00:22:22,461 --> 00:22:23,940 The calls are to his work phone. 567 00:22:23,996 --> 00:22:25,566 Well, maybe it's family business. 568 00:22:25,631 --> 00:22:27,076 Thirty calls? 569 00:22:27,133 --> 00:22:29,113 Hey, check this out. 570 00:22:29,168 --> 00:22:31,808 Call from Russell Woods' cell phone to Leslie Cooper the night of the murder. 571 00:22:31,871 --> 00:22:33,373 Yeah, but how do we know it's Russell, not his wife? 572 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,510 He's got one of those phones with GPS technology. 573 00:22:35,574 --> 00:22:37,612 Whoever called, called from three blocks away 574 00:22:37,678 --> 00:22:39,157 from where Cooper was shot. 575 00:22:39,212 --> 00:22:40,748 Confirmation call. 576 00:22:40,814 --> 00:22:42,054 There's only one good reason 577 00:22:42,115 --> 00:22:44,925 for the two of them to get together to kill her husband. 578 00:22:44,985 --> 00:22:46,362 Mmm-hmm. 579 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:48,627 So the wife of a wealthy analyst 580 00:22:48,688 --> 00:22:51,328 takes up with her broke brother-in-law? 581 00:22:51,792 --> 00:22:53,601 Only they wouldn't have been broke for long. 582 00:22:54,094 --> 00:22:56,506 John Cooper had a million dollar life insurance policy. 583 00:22:56,563 --> 00:22:59,373 She told me she hadn't got much money, but I did some checking. 584 00:22:59,433 --> 00:23:02,175 His estate was worth close to $3 million. 585 00:23:02,536 --> 00:23:05,142 Even with the money, phone calls and a suspicious demeanor 586 00:23:05,205 --> 00:23:07,048 won't be enough to prove a conspiracy. 587 00:23:07,107 --> 00:23:08,108 It's a start. 588 00:23:10,777 --> 00:23:13,053 Briscoe and Green's arrest report indicated 589 00:23:13,113 --> 00:23:16,060 the sister was pretty supportive in the initial interview. 590 00:23:16,116 --> 00:23:18,027 Because she didn't know about the affair. 591 00:23:18,085 --> 00:23:19,655 Let's get them in the same room together, 592 00:23:19,719 --> 00:23:21,721 see if one of them cracks. 593 00:23:25,492 --> 00:23:28,336 I still have no idea why you asked us to come here. 594 00:23:28,395 --> 00:23:31,239 We have information that pertains to the both of you. 595 00:23:31,298 --> 00:23:32,936 What information? 596 00:23:33,533 --> 00:23:35,308 SERENA: Mrs. Cooper? 597 00:23:36,603 --> 00:23:38,173 I have no idea what you're talking about. 598 00:23:38,238 --> 00:23:41,276 We're talking about your relationship with Russell Woods. 599 00:23:42,075 --> 00:23:43,520 What relationship? 600 00:23:43,577 --> 00:23:44,817 SERENA: According to the phone company, 601 00:23:44,878 --> 00:23:47,916 your sister placed over 30 calls to your husband in the last week. 602 00:23:48,515 --> 00:23:51,519 I call my husband from my sister's house all the time, so what? 603 00:23:52,552 --> 00:23:54,361 While you're at work? 604 00:23:54,721 --> 00:23:55,961 Look, what are you implying? 605 00:23:56,022 --> 00:23:57,262 JACK: We're not implying anything. 606 00:23:57,324 --> 00:24:00,101 We're just looking for an explanation for these calls. 607 00:24:00,161 --> 00:24:02,767 Were you having an affair with your brother-in-law, Mrs. Cooper? 608 00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:06,277 That is ridiculous. You don't know what you're talking about. 609 00:24:06,334 --> 00:24:10,214 JACK: We also have records showing that your husband called your sister 610 00:24:10,271 --> 00:24:13,718 from his cell phone immediately after he shot Mr. Cooper. 611 00:24:13,775 --> 00:24:16,381 That is my cell phone. I called my sister. 612 00:24:16,944 --> 00:24:19,049 Not according to the cell phone company. 613 00:24:19,113 --> 00:24:22,322 They place the phone less than three blocks from the ferry terminal 614 00:24:22,383 --> 00:24:23,862 where Mr. Cooper was shot. 615 00:24:23,918 --> 00:24:26,330 They can pinpoint the exact location. 616 00:24:27,922 --> 00:24:29,959 You've already arrested Russell. Isn't that enough? 617 00:24:30,925 --> 00:24:32,962 SERENA: I know this can't be easy for you. 618 00:24:33,027 --> 00:24:35,769 If you have a reason for protecting them, 619 00:24:36,797 --> 00:24:39,141 it can only do more harm than good. 620 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,010 Your husband is facing a charge that carries the death penalty. 621 00:24:42,370 --> 00:24:45,283 Oh, my God! This is getting out of hand, Georgina. 622 00:24:45,339 --> 00:24:46,340 GEORGINA: No, no, no, no, wait. 623 00:24:46,407 --> 00:24:47,681 LESLIE: No. I can't let you do this. 624 00:24:47,742 --> 00:24:50,052 I can't let Russell take responsibility for this alone. 625 00:24:50,111 --> 00:24:51,351 Well, maybe Russell will be okay. 626 00:24:51,412 --> 00:24:53,016 No. It's enough. 627 00:24:54,415 --> 00:24:56,417 (SIGHS) This is all my fault. 628 00:24:56,484 --> 00:24:58,054 If you're going to blame anyone, blame me. 629 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,393 Leslie! 630 00:24:59,453 --> 00:25:03,299 Blame you because you put Mr. Woods up to killing your husband. 631 00:25:03,891 --> 00:25:06,838 But he didn't do it for the reason you think. 632 00:25:07,895 --> 00:25:10,136 She was a battered wife? 633 00:25:10,198 --> 00:25:14,340 She claims her husband had been beating her on and off for 15 years. 634 00:25:14,802 --> 00:25:16,941 So she stayed home with her kids and... 635 00:25:17,004 --> 00:25:20,110 Had her brother-in-law pull the trigger for her. 636 00:25:20,174 --> 00:25:22,348 Well, why would he agree to do that in the first place? 637 00:25:22,411 --> 00:25:25,051 Well, according to her, because of the abuse. 638 00:25:25,113 --> 00:25:27,855 Except she admits she offered him part of the proceeds 639 00:25:27,916 --> 00:25:30,692 of a million dollar life insurance policy once it was done. 640 00:25:30,752 --> 00:25:33,028 A battered spouse who hires a hit man. 641 00:25:33,088 --> 00:25:35,090 That's one for the books. 642 00:25:35,757 --> 00:25:37,031 What about her sister? 643 00:25:37,092 --> 00:25:39,698 We might have accessory after the fact. 644 00:25:40,129 --> 00:25:42,302 But if she was involved beforehand, we can't prove it. 645 00:25:42,364 --> 00:25:44,002 Not unless they all roll over. 646 00:25:44,066 --> 00:25:46,410 Is it true, about the abuse? 647 00:25:46,468 --> 00:25:47,879 SERENA: So far, I haven't been able to find 648 00:25:47,936 --> 00:25:49,540 a shred of evidence to support it. 649 00:25:49,605 --> 00:25:52,779 No police records and I also checked her local hospital. 650 00:25:52,841 --> 00:25:54,047 A play for sympathy. 651 00:25:54,109 --> 00:25:56,282 LEWIN: Well, let's stop her before she even tries it. 652 00:25:56,345 --> 00:25:58,154 Move to preclude the defense. 653 00:25:58,213 --> 00:26:01,683 I'd rather find out what they have now than in front of a jury. 654 00:26:06,955 --> 00:26:08,764 JACK: This defendant hired her brother-in-law 655 00:26:08,824 --> 00:26:10,428 to shoot a man in the street. 656 00:26:10,492 --> 00:26:13,564 If that's self-defense, maybe I've been confused all these years. 657 00:26:13,629 --> 00:26:16,166 No. Battered wife syndrome, Judge. 658 00:26:16,231 --> 00:26:18,734 A psychiatrist will testify and explain 659 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,644 why she thought her husband was about to kill her, 660 00:26:21,703 --> 00:26:23,979 why she didn't leave the relationship. 661 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,885 SERENA: Except there's one thing missing here. She wasn't abused. 662 00:26:27,943 --> 00:26:28,944 What about it, Mr. Weaver? 663 00:26:29,011 --> 00:26:31,218 Was your client abused or not? 664 00:26:31,813 --> 00:26:33,224 You tell me. 665 00:26:34,049 --> 00:26:38,020 Mrs. Cooper has been seen in four different hospitals on eight different occasions 666 00:26:38,086 --> 00:26:39,997 during the course of her marriage. 667 00:26:40,055 --> 00:26:41,728 She's had a ruptured spleen, 668 00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:44,965 a bruised liver, a broken arm and a sprained knee. 669 00:26:45,695 --> 00:26:47,402 Judge, I checked with her local area hospital. 670 00:26:47,463 --> 00:26:48,771 She was never treated there. 671 00:26:49,299 --> 00:26:51,210 That's because she was too embarrassed. 672 00:26:51,267 --> 00:26:54,544 She went to different ERs so she wouldn't have to deal with the same people. 673 00:26:54,604 --> 00:26:55,844 We've got all the records. 674 00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:57,782 Her sister took those pictures. 675 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,319 I've seen enough. 676 00:26:59,375 --> 00:27:01,514 I'm inclined to allow the defense to be presented. 677 00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:03,888 The People request the opportunity to have the defendant 678 00:27:03,947 --> 00:27:05,483 examined by our psychiatrist. 679 00:27:05,548 --> 00:27:11,226 Judge, we're not asserting diminished capacity or mental disease or defect. 680 00:27:11,287 --> 00:27:13,426 But you want a psychiatrist to explain the effects, 681 00:27:13,489 --> 00:27:16,436 battering can have on a woman's perceptions. 682 00:27:16,492 --> 00:27:20,668 The People should be allowed to determine for themselves what those effects were. 683 00:27:21,164 --> 00:27:22,871 LEWIN: If the jury gets one look at these photos 684 00:27:22,932 --> 00:27:25,412 they're gonna think they would have killed him, too. 685 00:27:25,468 --> 00:27:28,972 What we're talking about is revenge, not self-defense. 686 00:27:29,038 --> 00:27:30,039 Well, maybe. 687 00:27:30,106 --> 00:27:33,212 But every woman, every person on the jury, 688 00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:36,120 who sees these photos are gonna think he got what he deserved. 689 00:27:36,179 --> 00:27:38,090 Well, we don't pick our victims, Nora. 690 00:27:38,147 --> 00:27:40,127 No. But sometimes we cut a deal. 691 00:27:40,183 --> 00:27:41,685 JACK: Which we already have. 692 00:27:42,018 --> 00:27:44,157 Russell Woods pled to murder two this morning 693 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:46,291 and Georgina pled to an accessory charge. 694 00:27:46,355 --> 00:27:48,096 No. I'm talking about Leslie Cooper. 695 00:27:48,391 --> 00:27:50,337 How much of a discount do you want to give her? 696 00:27:50,393 --> 00:27:51,701 I was thinking to man one. 697 00:27:51,761 --> 00:27:53,502 JACK: What kind of a message does that send? 698 00:27:53,563 --> 00:27:56,237 When things get bad, hire a hit man, 699 00:27:56,299 --> 00:27:58,279 you get a bargain at indictment time. 700 00:27:58,334 --> 00:28:01,008 He wasn't a hit man. He was her brother-in-law. 701 00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:03,175 She still arranged for someone to jump her husband 702 00:28:03,239 --> 00:28:05,014 and pump two bullets into him. 703 00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:06,850 Well, I'm not talking about giving her a medal. 704 00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:09,288 But they'll have an expert witness who'll testify that 705 00:28:09,346 --> 00:28:10,950 everything she did was reasonable. 706 00:28:11,014 --> 00:28:12,516 And we'll have one who says it wasn't. 707 00:28:12,583 --> 00:28:14,654 LEWIN: Jack, that guarantees us nothing. 708 00:28:15,019 --> 00:28:16,521 I just don't think this is a case 709 00:28:16,587 --> 00:28:17,759 we should go to verdict on. 710 00:28:19,022 --> 00:28:20,592 If she gets herself acquitted, 711 00:28:20,657 --> 00:28:23,069 the next case these defense lawyers will push, 712 00:28:23,127 --> 00:28:24,731 might actually be a hit man. 713 00:28:24,795 --> 00:28:26,638 I don't think she will win. 714 00:28:26,697 --> 00:28:28,677 And I think she could. 715 00:28:28,732 --> 00:28:30,609 Make this one go away. 716 00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:35,783 You gotta be kidding me. Fifteen to life? 717 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:37,546 Did we see the same photos? 718 00:28:37,608 --> 00:28:40,214 Your client should be aware that if she turns this plea down, 719 00:28:40,277 --> 00:28:43,417 we will present murder one to the grand jury. 720 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,084 Capital charges? 721 00:28:45,349 --> 00:28:49,092 Hiring a hit man fits squarely within the murder one statute. 722 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:53,500 We've got a woman here who was severely battered on an almost daily basis. 723 00:28:53,557 --> 00:28:55,434 The jury is gonna hate your victim 724 00:28:55,492 --> 00:28:57,597 and wanna jump up and hug her. 725 00:28:57,661 --> 00:28:59,732 SERENA: She planned it out, she took her time. 726 00:28:59,797 --> 00:29:01,743 I can't go to jail for 15 years. 727 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,608 JACK: You owe it to your client to explain to her 728 00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:05,806 how unrealistic she's being. 729 00:29:06,503 --> 00:29:10,212 We could go to trial, get an acquittal, at worst, man two. 730 00:29:10,507 --> 00:29:14,580 More likely, your client will spend the rest of her life in prison. 731 00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:17,820 I just can't take a plea. 732 00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:20,122 I won't do that to my children. 733 00:29:21,118 --> 00:29:22,256 They need a mother. 734 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,129 Up until now, they've been taking care of me. 735 00:29:25,189 --> 00:29:27,533 I won't just leave them Not now. 736 00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:34,672 Hey, Jack. 737 00:29:35,934 --> 00:29:37,811 Jack, I just checked the trial calendar. 738 00:29:37,869 --> 00:29:40,372 Leslie Cooper's name is still on it. 739 00:29:40,438 --> 00:29:42,179 She turned down our offer. 740 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,446 What was it? 741 00:29:43,508 --> 00:29:44,987 Fifteen to life. 742 00:29:45,043 --> 00:29:46,579 Well, what was the counter? 743 00:29:46,644 --> 00:29:48,715 It never got that far. 744 00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:50,487 Jack, I thought I made it pretty clear, 745 00:29:50,548 --> 00:29:51,925 I wanted this one to go away. 746 00:29:51,983 --> 00:29:54,930 I didn't think that meant you wanted me to give away the courthouse. 747 00:29:54,986 --> 00:29:56,795 Well, it's better that we give away the courthouse 748 00:29:56,855 --> 00:29:59,358 than some defense attorney takes it. 749 00:29:59,424 --> 00:30:01,131 If we lose this case at trial, 750 00:30:01,192 --> 00:30:02,364 we're gonna see this defense 751 00:30:02,427 --> 00:30:04,839 over and over and over again. 752 00:30:04,896 --> 00:30:07,638 All I can do is try the case in front of me. 753 00:30:07,699 --> 00:30:10,509 Yeah, unfortunately, I have to look a little further down the road. 754 00:30:11,369 --> 00:30:12,939 Has Skoda met with her yet? 755 00:30:13,004 --> 00:30:14,210 This afternoon. 756 00:30:14,272 --> 00:30:16,912 Well, we better hope he gives us what we need to convict this woman. 757 00:30:17,275 --> 00:30:21,553 This case is gonna be a lot harder to win than you seem to think it is. 758 00:30:27,385 --> 00:30:29,092 Did she have the crap beaten out of her? 759 00:30:29,154 --> 00:30:31,293 Medical records say yes. 760 00:30:31,356 --> 00:30:32,357 Did she fear for her life 761 00:30:32,423 --> 00:30:35,097 when she hired her brother-in-law to whack her husband. 762 00:30:35,159 --> 00:30:36,160 Who knows. 763 00:30:36,227 --> 00:30:39,333 In other words, she didn't suffer from battered woman's syndrome. 764 00:30:39,397 --> 00:30:41,172 It's a subjective standard. 765 00:30:41,232 --> 00:30:42,768 I need something more solid than that 766 00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:45,144 if I'm gonna put you in front of a jury. 767 00:30:45,203 --> 00:30:47,342 She describes some of the characteristics. 768 00:30:47,405 --> 00:30:48,850 Feeling panicky all the time, 769 00:30:48,907 --> 00:30:52,151 heightened awareness of changes in his mood, 770 00:30:52,211 --> 00:30:54,248 feeling like he could control her. 771 00:30:54,313 --> 00:30:57,260 But she also planned this out and hired someone to do it. 772 00:30:57,316 --> 00:31:00,763 Which seems pretty calculating and inconsistent with the syndrome. 773 00:31:00,819 --> 00:31:03,026 She definitely doesn't fit the textbook definition. 774 00:31:03,088 --> 00:31:04,328 SERENA: Yeah. She had a college education. 775 00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:05,596 She had a career before she had kids. 776 00:31:05,658 --> 00:31:07,763 I think she could have figured out how to call the police. 777 00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:10,898 Battered women can appear competent and functional, 778 00:31:10,963 --> 00:31:13,239 yet they still feel powerless on a day-to-day basis. 779 00:31:13,299 --> 00:31:14,505 But there has to be a difference between 780 00:31:14,566 --> 00:31:16,910 defending yourself against an imminent threat 781 00:31:16,969 --> 00:31:19,210 and launching a preemptive strike. 782 00:31:20,372 --> 00:31:23,046 Look, whether what she did was reasonable or not is your department. 783 00:31:23,108 --> 00:31:26,385 What I can say is, from a psychological standpoint, 784 00:31:26,445 --> 00:31:28,083 there are aspects of her behavior 785 00:31:28,147 --> 00:31:29,319 that just don't fit the syndrome. 786 00:31:29,615 --> 00:31:31,822 Like enlisting the help of someone else. 787 00:31:31,884 --> 00:31:34,922 I mean, if this woman can claim she had battered woman's syndrome, 788 00:31:34,987 --> 00:31:36,898 I don't know who can't. 789 00:31:38,924 --> 00:31:41,370 Her psychiatrist claims she feared for her life. 790 00:31:41,427 --> 00:31:43,304 She paid for that opinion. 791 00:31:43,362 --> 00:31:46,172 Well, the opinion we're paying for has told you that 792 00:31:46,232 --> 00:31:49,577 there's no way to determine whether or not her actions are reasonable. 793 00:31:49,635 --> 00:31:52,582 What Skoda said is that it would be irresponsible to call them reasonable. 794 00:31:52,638 --> 00:31:55,175 Well, why should a jury believe his opinion is right? 795 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,777 How do you make a determination about any person's conduct? 796 00:31:57,843 --> 00:31:59,379 You look at the circumstances. 797 00:31:59,445 --> 00:32:01,982 Except these circumstances have pictures 798 00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:03,958 which a jury is likely to see. 799 00:32:04,016 --> 00:32:06,053 JACK: What I'm gonna show them is a woman 800 00:32:06,118 --> 00:32:08,758 who knew she had friends she could go to for safety, 801 00:32:08,821 --> 00:32:11,665 and instead, used them to kill her husband. 802 00:32:11,724 --> 00:32:15,537 Or they'll see a battered woman without any other options. 803 00:32:15,595 --> 00:32:19,042 That sounds an awful lot like a special standard for women. 804 00:32:19,099 --> 00:32:21,739 If she were a man, she could never claim self-defense. 805 00:32:21,801 --> 00:32:24,975 If she were a man, she wouldn't have been beaten by her husband. 806 00:32:25,038 --> 00:32:27,917 A good defense attorney's not gonna let a jury forget that. 807 00:32:27,974 --> 00:32:30,955 Still, there have to be limits, Nora, for men and women. 808 00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:32,546 Juries have already acquitted wives 809 00:32:32,612 --> 00:32:34,785 who've shot their husbands while they've slept. 810 00:32:34,848 --> 00:32:37,795 If hiring a hit man's next, where do you draw the line? 811 00:32:37,851 --> 00:32:40,832 JACK: We've let these groups chip away with these special circumstances. 812 00:32:40,887 --> 00:32:41,922 If we don't stop it, 813 00:32:41,988 --> 00:32:44,229 when people feel threatened, they won't call the police, 814 00:32:44,290 --> 00:32:45,792 they'll call a hit man. 815 00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:48,100 I hope a jury sees it your way. 816 00:32:51,698 --> 00:32:54,542 JACK: What was the cause of death of John Cooper? 817 00:32:54,601 --> 00:32:57,639 Primary cause of death was asphyxiation. 818 00:32:57,704 --> 00:32:59,274 He choked on his own blood. 819 00:32:59,339 --> 00:33:01,819 Secondary cause of death was exsanguination. 820 00:33:01,875 --> 00:33:02,876 He bled to death. 821 00:33:03,343 --> 00:33:04,913 How did he bleed to death? 822 00:33:04,978 --> 00:33:08,551 From two gunshot wounds one to the chest, the other to the stomach. 823 00:33:08,615 --> 00:33:12,791 Judge, we're willing to stipulate to the manner of Mr. Coopers death. 824 00:33:13,219 --> 00:33:16,496 The People have the right to put this evidence before the jury. 825 00:33:16,556 --> 00:33:20,129 It goes directly to the defendant's claim of self-defense. 826 00:33:21,461 --> 00:33:22,701 Door's wide open, Counselor. 827 00:33:23,263 --> 00:33:24,708 The People may proceed. 828 00:33:24,764 --> 00:33:27,938 JACK: How long would it have taken Mr. Cooper to die? 829 00:33:28,001 --> 00:33:29,207 RODGERS: Several minutes. 830 00:33:29,903 --> 00:33:32,679 Is it your opinion that Mr. Cooper was in pain? 831 00:33:32,739 --> 00:33:34,741 Given that he actually choked on his own blood 832 00:33:34,808 --> 00:33:36,413 before bleeding to death, I'd say yes. 833 00:33:36,477 --> 00:33:38,684 He was in severe pain and died slowly. 834 00:33:47,621 --> 00:33:53,367 Dr. Rodgers, your testimony relates solely to the manner in which Mr. Cooper died. 835 00:33:53,427 --> 00:33:55,100 Is that correct? Yes. 836 00:33:55,162 --> 00:33:58,541 It says nothing about whether that death was justified. 837 00:33:58,599 --> 00:33:59,634 No. 838 00:34:00,234 --> 00:34:02,043 No further questions. 839 00:34:03,838 --> 00:34:07,285 Just tell the truth. That's all you have to do, okay? 840 00:34:08,142 --> 00:34:09,780 ANTHONY: I guess. 841 00:34:10,144 --> 00:34:12,784 You don't like having to tell us about your dad, 842 00:34:12,847 --> 00:34:14,155 do you, Anthony? 843 00:34:15,816 --> 00:34:16,851 No. 844 00:34:17,752 --> 00:34:18,992 Why not? 845 00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:23,527 You're not hurting your father. 846 00:34:23,591 --> 00:34:25,696 It's okay to tell the truth. 847 00:34:28,529 --> 00:34:30,202 My dad hit my mom. 848 00:34:32,566 --> 00:34:33,601 A lot. 849 00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:35,305 WEAVER: And what else did he do? 850 00:34:35,369 --> 00:34:37,007 He yelled at her. 851 00:34:37,471 --> 00:34:39,109 Said mean things. 852 00:34:40,141 --> 00:34:41,552 Mean things? 853 00:34:42,543 --> 00:34:46,457 Stuff. You know, like, I can't say. 854 00:34:46,947 --> 00:34:49,427 Did he ever hit you, Anthony, or your sisters? 855 00:34:52,086 --> 00:34:53,326 Sometimes. 856 00:34:54,021 --> 00:34:55,728 WEAVER: How did that make you feel? 857 00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:56,860 ANTHONY: Afraid. 858 00:34:58,627 --> 00:35:01,665 But I guess maybe we kind of deserved it. 859 00:35:03,031 --> 00:35:05,238 I mean, I don't know, sort of. 860 00:35:06,101 --> 00:35:08,206 WEAVER: Thank you, Anthony. 861 00:35:14,776 --> 00:35:16,255 No questions. 862 00:35:21,583 --> 00:35:24,587 The beatings had gotten especially bad lately. 863 00:35:25,087 --> 00:35:28,296 He was coming home from work really stressed out a lot. 864 00:35:28,356 --> 00:35:31,360 He was angry all the time, and when he was angry, he hit. 865 00:35:31,426 --> 00:35:33,406 Did you report him to the police? 866 00:35:33,462 --> 00:35:36,500 I did once back in Pennsylvania where we used to live. 867 00:35:37,365 --> 00:35:39,106 The police came, made him leave the house. 868 00:35:39,167 --> 00:35:41,545 But he was back home the next day and even more angry. 869 00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:43,647 What about just leaving? 870 00:35:43,705 --> 00:35:45,241 I tried, many times. 871 00:35:46,074 --> 00:35:48,987 I went to my mother's house. He showed up in her kitchen. 872 00:35:49,044 --> 00:35:52,491 If I went to my sister's, he'd bang on the doors, scare her kids. 873 00:35:52,547 --> 00:35:55,153 I started feeling like I was making their lives miserable. 874 00:35:56,418 --> 00:35:57,988 What happened the week before 875 00:35:58,053 --> 00:36:00,795 you asked your brother-in-law to kill him? 876 00:36:00,856 --> 00:36:02,767 One night, John looked at me and said, 877 00:36:02,824 --> 00:36:04,929 "You know what I'm gonna do? 878 00:36:05,193 --> 00:36:08,299 "I'm gonna kill you and then I'm going to Hawaii." 879 00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:10,537 WEAVER: What did that make you think? 880 00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,045 LESLIE: That he was going to do it. 881 00:36:13,101 --> 00:36:14,944 There was just something in his eyes, 882 00:36:15,003 --> 00:36:16,073 the way he said it. 883 00:36:16,138 --> 00:36:19,142 I thought, "If I don't kill him, I won't live." 884 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:21,818 And what did you do? 885 00:36:21,878 --> 00:36:24,119 I borrowed a gun from a friend. 886 00:36:24,414 --> 00:36:27,952 One night, while he was sleeping, I tried to shoot him. 887 00:36:28,017 --> 00:36:30,429 I stood there and pointed the gun, 888 00:36:31,954 --> 00:36:33,956 but I just couldn't fire. 889 00:36:35,758 --> 00:36:37,396 So, the next week, I asked Russell if he could do it. 890 00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:38,871 He said yes. 891 00:36:40,062 --> 00:36:43,168 WEAVER: Mrs. Cooper, do you regret what you did? 892 00:36:44,734 --> 00:36:46,975 I regret that it had to happen. 893 00:36:47,637 --> 00:36:50,481 But to tell you the truth, I feel relieved. 894 00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:53,584 For the first time in my life, I feel safe. 895 00:36:54,944 --> 00:36:57,515 WEAVER: Your Honor, at this time, 896 00:36:57,580 --> 00:37:01,050 I'd ask that the photos previously admitted into evidence 897 00:37:01,117 --> 00:37:02,687 be published to the jury. 898 00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:23,241 She's selling the fact that she didn't have any other options. 899 00:37:23,306 --> 00:37:25,149 She's not selling it to me. 900 00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:28,348 She had choices before she decided to have her husband killed. 901 00:37:28,411 --> 00:37:32,689 She shouldn't be able to rely on the law now, not after the fact. 902 00:37:32,748 --> 00:37:36,195 What choices does a woman in that situation really have? 903 00:37:36,419 --> 00:37:37,420 (SIGHS) 904 00:37:37,486 --> 00:37:39,466 If someone hit me, I would leave. 905 00:37:39,522 --> 00:37:41,297 And if I couldn't, I'd hit them back. 906 00:37:41,792 --> 00:37:43,965 Well, not everyone takes Tae Bo. 907 00:37:44,027 --> 00:37:47,497 Yes, saying there's no differences between us doesn't make it true. 908 00:37:47,564 --> 00:37:50,909 But women are cops, firefighters, combat pilots. 909 00:37:50,968 --> 00:37:53,471 We cannot assert our physical equality in the workplace 910 00:37:53,537 --> 00:37:55,642 and then claim to be overpowered in our homes. 911 00:37:55,706 --> 00:37:58,687 The fact is I don't have to answer the question 912 00:37:58,742 --> 00:38:01,552 whether a battered woman can leave or not. 913 00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:05,055 Just whether she can hire her brother-in-law to kill her husband. 914 00:38:07,284 --> 00:38:09,958 Okay. If you want to convict her, 915 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:11,829 you're gonna have to do better than argue 916 00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:14,529 whether or not he beat her doesn't matter. 917 00:38:14,591 --> 00:38:15,934 You're gonna have to convict her 918 00:38:15,993 --> 00:38:18,200 for an entirely different reason. 919 00:38:23,834 --> 00:38:26,440 He's already pled to the top count. 920 00:38:27,704 --> 00:38:30,708 If we find anything he says here to be helpful, 921 00:38:31,541 --> 00:38:35,387 I have no problem making a favorable sentencing recommendation. 922 00:38:37,614 --> 00:38:38,718 Okay. 923 00:38:40,884 --> 00:38:42,522 I did what I did. 924 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,600 I'm not gonna drag Leslie down with me. 925 00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:49,001 Only it seems she's the one that dragged you down, Mr. Woods. 926 00:38:49,059 --> 00:38:50,697 I did what I thought was right. 927 00:38:50,761 --> 00:38:51,762 JACK: Then why the money? 928 00:38:51,828 --> 00:38:53,637 He was taking kickbacks. Did you know that? 929 00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:56,307 Papers can call it commissions or whatever. 930 00:38:57,167 --> 00:38:59,841 But it was a pay-off. Plain and simple. 931 00:38:59,903 --> 00:39:01,814 People like me lost whatever future we had. 932 00:39:01,872 --> 00:39:03,783 JACK: You were angry. Damn right I was angry. 933 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:05,813 Is that why you agreed to kill him? 934 00:39:05,877 --> 00:39:07,550 RUSSELL: He was beating her up all the time. 935 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:11,488 She'd come over, go back. Over and over. 936 00:39:12,216 --> 00:39:13,456 It wasn't gonna stop. 937 00:39:13,518 --> 00:39:16,021 JACK: These beatings were going on for years. 938 00:39:16,087 --> 00:39:18,693 Why would she ask you to kill him now? 939 00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,937 I don't know. 940 00:39:22,927 --> 00:39:25,601 Maybe Leslie just couldn't take it anymore. 941 00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:28,173 Or maybe she was waiting for you 942 00:39:29,234 --> 00:39:31,475 to hate him as much as she did. 943 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,085 JACK: Earlier in your testimony, 944 00:39:38,142 --> 00:39:40,645 you said that your husband threatened your life. 945 00:39:40,712 --> 00:39:43,556 Threatened to kill you and go to Hawaii. 946 00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:44,786 Yes. 947 00:39:44,849 --> 00:39:47,796 Only, he didn't do that, did he? 948 00:39:49,987 --> 00:39:52,524 Instead, a week went by. 949 00:39:53,591 --> 00:39:54,626 Yes. 950 00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:57,730 A week in which you lived in the same house? 951 00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:01,407 Slept in the same bed? 952 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:03,804 I told you, I couldn't leave. 953 00:40:03,868 --> 00:40:05,677 Couldn't or wouldn't? 954 00:40:06,604 --> 00:40:09,949 Three years ago, you filed for divorce. 955 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:11,009 LESLIE: Yes. 956 00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:15,581 So, you were aware that divorce was an option. 957 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,423 I guess. 958 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:21,794 Did you ever report your husband's threat to the police? 959 00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:23,196 LESLIE: I didn't think they'd help. 960 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,665 Never told a neighbor. 961 00:40:25,189 --> 00:40:26,498 I was too embarrassed. 962 00:40:26,558 --> 00:40:31,029 But not too embarrassed to ask your brother-in-law to kill your husband. 963 00:40:31,463 --> 00:40:33,500 Russell saw what went on. 964 00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:35,875 JACK: But he only agreed to kill him 965 00:40:35,934 --> 00:40:40,212 once you promised him part of that life insurance money. Isn't that right? 966 00:40:40,272 --> 00:40:42,377 John was stealing his money. 967 00:40:43,242 --> 00:40:44,721 You knew that? 968 00:40:44,777 --> 00:40:46,688 LESLIE: I found it out. 969 00:40:47,513 --> 00:40:51,086 But you never warned your brother-in-law it was happening. 970 00:40:52,484 --> 00:40:53,724 Did you? 971 00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:59,296 Instead, you waited until it was the right time to tell him. 972 00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:01,126 No. 973 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:04,902 Because you needed him to be as angry as you were. 974 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:06,374 I was afraid. 975 00:41:06,431 --> 00:41:08,411 Doesn't sound like fear. 976 00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,747 It sounds more like revenge. 977 00:41:13,272 --> 00:41:15,912 You have no idea what he put me through. 978 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:18,511 You were tired of being his punching bag. 979 00:41:18,577 --> 00:41:20,284 Yes, anybody would be. 980 00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:23,019 And the way to get all that to stop, 981 00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:25,852 was to stay. 982 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:31,556 To stay there and get him. 983 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:39,231 Only that's not self-defense, is it? 984 00:41:52,846 --> 00:41:54,587 JUDGE: Has the jury reached a verdict? 985 00:41:55,114 --> 00:41:56,422 We have, Your Honor. 986 00:41:56,483 --> 00:41:57,655 JUDGE: What is your verdict? 987 00:41:57,717 --> 00:42:00,027 "In the matter of the People against Leslie Cooper, 988 00:42:00,086 --> 00:42:03,033 "we the jury find the defendant not guilty." 989 00:42:05,525 --> 00:42:06,560 Oh! 990 00:42:07,493 --> 00:42:08,972 ANTHONY: Mom. 991 00:42:24,310 --> 00:42:26,881 Leslie Cooper's lawyer just gave a press conference. 992 00:42:26,946 --> 00:42:28,016 He declared today's verdict 993 00:42:28,081 --> 00:42:30,357 a victory for all battered women. 994 00:42:30,416 --> 00:42:33,022 Just the encouragement abused women need. 995 00:42:33,086 --> 00:42:35,225 Don't seek help, don't leave, 996 00:42:35,588 --> 00:42:37,465 hire a hit man instead. 997 00:42:37,524 --> 00:42:40,505 The jury obviously didn't believe she had any other options. 998 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,130 They ignored the facts. 999 00:42:42,195 --> 00:42:45,267 The woman was beaten, Jack. Repeatedly. 1000 00:42:46,366 --> 00:42:48,937 Maybe they just didn't ignore the facts you wanted them to. 1001 00:42:49,002 --> 00:42:50,538 SERENA: In the end, I'm not sure a verdict like this 1002 00:42:50,603 --> 00:42:52,605 doesn't just sell women short. 1003 00:42:52,672 --> 00:42:54,879 It reinforces the notion of a helpless female 1004 00:42:54,941 --> 00:42:57,387 forced to enlist a man to solve her problems. 1005 00:42:57,444 --> 00:42:59,253 Not that helpless. 1006 00:42:59,312 --> 00:43:01,053 She got away with murder.