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In the criminal justice system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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♪ Okay, stress me
on checkers or chess ♪
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♪ I don't play by the rules
if you guessed it ♪
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♪ We about to run it up,
run it up ♪
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♪ We about to run it up,
run it up, run ♪
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♪ We about to run it up,
run it up ♪
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[engine revving]
[alarm blaring]
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[tense music]
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♪
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[gun clicks]
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[siren wailing]
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Hell of a way
to start your day, huh?
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Yeah, I'm not sure it's
actually started yet.
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Not a morning person?
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Oh, I love a morning.
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4:00 a.m.? Still last night.
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What are we looking at?
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Oh, DOA,
took one in the chest.
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No wallet, no phone.
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Bodega owner down the street
heard the shot around 2:00 a.m.
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and called it in
but didn't see anything.
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Okay.
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Pricey clothes.
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Bet he had
an expensive watch too.
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Yeah.
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Could be looking at
an old-fashioned robbery.
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- Maybe.
- Detectives.
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We found this
in the bushes over there.
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- Thank you.
- Empty.
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So the killer took the cash,
tossed the wallet.
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Evan Marks.
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- The tech guy.
- CEO of VenZip?
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Damn, VenZip is how I pay
for everything these days.
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You don't use it?
- No, man.
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I'm not trusting my bank info
to an app.
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[laughs]
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Okay, so the headquarters
is across the street.
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He's at the office late.
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The guy's a billionaire,
bragging about the fact
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that he's about to single-
handedly make cash obsolete.
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So what's a guy like that
doing at an ATM
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at 2:00 in the morning?
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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Bank records
confirm Evan Marks
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made a withdrawal from the ATM
just before the shooting.
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Thanks.
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2 grand,
maximum amount allowed.
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That's a lot of money
for that hour of night.
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Mm.
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We're agreeing
to call it night now.
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Hey, does anyone know
who James Sawyer is?
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Yeah, he's like a god
in the tech world.
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Well, apparently,
he is also a co-founder
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of our vic's company.
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Evan Marks and James Sawyer
are like the dream team
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of Silicon Valley--
or at least they were.
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Well, Sawyer just posted this
on his social media.
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"Evan Marks was one
of the greatest minds
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"of our generation.
The NYPD should be ashamed.
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"Violent street crime
is out of control,
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and Evan's blood
is on their hands."
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So Marks's murder
is somehow our fault now?
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Well, apparently, according
to James Sawyer, it is.
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And that guy has got
millions of followers
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that worship him as a genius.
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And every one of them
is reposting this nonsense.
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Look, we gotta wrap this up.
What do we got?
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We tried pinging
Marks's stolen phone,
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but we didn't get anything.
Killer likely turned it off.
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Still canvassing for video,
but so far, nothing.
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But he still slipped up.
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Techs were able to lift
a partial print
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from Marks's wallet,
and I got a hit.
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Blake Hughes,
also known as G-Ticket.
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- G-Ticket?
- He's a rapper.
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And it actually looks like he's
pretty popular on SoundCloud.
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But what is of interest
is his list of priors--
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possession with intent to sell,
aggravated assault,
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robbery in the first degree.
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Go, go.
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[hip-hop music playing
indistinctly]
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♪
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That part was fire.
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Yo, yo, yo. What's going on?
Can I help you?
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Yeah, NYPD, my guy.
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We need to talk
to your friend right there.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Come on. Let's go.
- Oh, come on.
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- Hey!
- Yo!
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♪
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[groans]
Get off me!
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I ain't done nothing.
- Yeah?
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Well, we both know
that's not true.
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Just stop, all right? Stop.
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Stop.
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Give me your arm.
Give me your arm.
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Well, this looks like
2,000 bucks.
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Blake Hughes,
you're under arrest.
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We know it was you.
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Your cell phone data puts you
in the Meatpacking District
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last night,
right around the area
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Marks was murdered.
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We got your fingerprints
on his wallet.
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We caught you with his
phone and his watch.
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Nah, man, that ain't it.
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Look, I was there, but...
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I knew the guy.
We were friends.
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Oh, you and Evan Marks
were friends.
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I gotta hear this one.
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We met last year
at Coachella.
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He was a fan of my music.
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All right,
so what were you doing
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outside his place of business
at 2:00 a.m. last night?
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He asked me to come meet him.
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He--he would buy
off of me sometimes.
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Dude love to party.
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I mean, party.
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Like, he wanted ketamine,
acid, shrooms.
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Okay, so you were there
to sell him drugs.
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Just so we're clear,
I'm out of that game.
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- [laughs]
- Clearly.
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I would make
an exception for Evan.
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That stuff you found,
I mean, I only had it
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because I wanted to stay
on his good side, you know?
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Look, I was hoping
he'd give me money to--
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to produce my album.
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Okay, so just help me out.
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What went wrong?
Why did you shoot him?
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I didn't.
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When I got there,
he was already
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arguing with some other guy.
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So I didn't wanna get involved.
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I hung back,
stayed out of sight.
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They started yelling
at each other.
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Next thing I knew,
there was a gunshot,
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and the other dude ran off.
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And how did you end up with
Marks's money and his watch?
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After the guy ran away,
I went to go check on Evan,
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see if he was okay.
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But he was already dead.
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So you're telling me
you robbed your dead friend?
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Look, I'm not proud of it,
but studio time is expensive.
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All right, in any event,
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you didn't happen
to get a good look
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at this other guy, did you?
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No, but I did overhear
some of their conversation.
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Their argument, they were--
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They were fighting
over a woman.
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What makes you say that?
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The dude said,
"You turned her against me,"
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or something like that.
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And Marks was all,
"She doesn't need you anymore."
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[suspenseful music]
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♪
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We found some
pretty raunchy texts
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between you and Evan Marks.
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What was the nature of
your relationship with him?
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Oh, God.
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I've known Evan forever.
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We first met in Aspen, I think.
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Were you two
romantically involved?
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You mean,
were we sleeping together?
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Yeah, sometimes.
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But we weren't dating
or anything.
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It was just two friends exploring,
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finding joy together.
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You know anybody who might
have been jealous of this joy?
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Jealous of me and Evan
sleeping together?
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No.
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Hey, Lace.
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I have to be
at the gallery till 3:00,
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so I picked us up some lunch.
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Afternoon.
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What's going on?
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Detective Riley.
This is Detective Shaw.
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And you are?
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Craig Walsh.
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Is this about Evan?
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It is.
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How well do you know him?
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Mm, well.
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He officiated our wedding.
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- You guys are married?
- Yeah.
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Mr. Walsh, where were you
last night around 2:00 a.m.?
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[scoffs]
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I want a lawyer.
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Magic word, okay.
Call him to the precinct.
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Spoke to your doorman.
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According to him,
you and your wife
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didn't get home last night
until after 4:00 a.m.
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Which does not look good
since Marks
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was killed around 2:00.
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I would never kill Evan.
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I loved the guy.
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Bet you didn't love him
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sleeping with your wife,
though, huh?
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Lacy and I have
an open marriage.
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Okay.
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Then where were you last night?
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It'll be fine.
Just tell them.
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[suspenseful music]
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I was at the VenZip offices.
So was Lacy.
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So you were
with him Evan Marks.
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And a lot of other people.
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There was a party.
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Oh, yeah?
What kind of party was that?
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There's an underground scene
for people
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of a certain caliber.
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It's called the Lifestyle.
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- Lifestyle?
- I did not name it.
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Evan was super into
the whole thing.
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It was his idea to throw one
of the parties at his office.
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You know, you really didn't
need a lawyer to tell us this.
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We're talking about
an invite-only situation here.
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And people that attend
these things are big time.
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Guests have to sign
a non-disclosure agreement.
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I wanted to make sure
I wouldn't get in trouble.
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And what kind of things
are going on at this party
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that people have
to sign an NDA?
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Nothing bad.
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It's just a way to create
safe space for powerful
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and, you know,
famous people to relax,
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expanding the mind
to break old paradigms.
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And by expanding the mind,
you mean...
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taking ketamine, mushrooms?
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We're Homicide detectives, okay?
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We're not here to bust you
for recreational drug use.
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Yeah.
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Everyone parties.
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And at some point,
Evan got worried
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supplies were running low,
so he left for a re-up.
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But he never came back.
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Then someone
looked down and saw
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the police cars on the street.
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Everyone freaked out.
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So we left out the back exit
of the building.
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Well, the point is,
my client and his wife
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were in the VenZip offices
on the 27th floor
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when Evan Marks was shot.
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No, the point is, Counselor,
your client has to prove it.
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[upbeat dance music playing]
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♪
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The planet is gonna run
out of water, like, soon.
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That's something
everyone needs to survive.
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Whoever figures that out
is gonna make a lot of money.
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- And change the world.
- And change the world.
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That's the video
Craig Walsh shot at the party.
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People are higher than
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the Chrysler Building
in that thing.
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Maybe so,
but the time stamp proves
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00:11:05,577 --> 00:11:07,710
that they were at the party
when Marks was shot.
259
00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:12,062
So if Marks was killed over a
woman, it wasn't Lacy Stevens.
260
00:11:12,062 --> 00:11:13,890
Doesn't look like it.
261
00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:16,980
Yeah, but those Lifestyle
parties are basically just
262
00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:19,026
orgies for tech nerds, right?
263
00:11:19,026 --> 00:11:20,331
Odds are Lacy
wasn't the only one
264
00:11:20,331 --> 00:11:21,985
he was
romantically involved with.
265
00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:23,465
[knocking]
- Hey.
266
00:11:23,465 --> 00:11:25,641
I scrubbed through
Marks's phone and email
267
00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:27,861
like you asked, looking for
other possible girlfriends,
268
00:11:27,861 --> 00:11:29,732
and I might have something.
269
00:11:29,732 --> 00:11:32,343
I found several references
to a woman named Eva,
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00:11:32,343 --> 00:11:34,345
messages that he sent
to friends saying
271
00:11:34,345 --> 00:11:36,043
he couldn't wait
to introduce them to her.
272
00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:38,001
- You get a last name?
- Negative.
273
00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:40,743
And I also couldn't find
any Eva in his contact lists.
274
00:11:40,743 --> 00:11:42,745
What's the over/under
this Eva also has a husband?
275
00:11:42,745 --> 00:11:44,616
You know, Craig Walsh
did eventually give up
276
00:11:44,616 --> 00:11:47,097
the contact info for the woman
who runs the invite list
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00:11:47,097 --> 00:11:48,229
for those Lifestyle parties.
278
00:11:48,229 --> 00:11:49,796
Let's go talk to her.
279
00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:53,321
If she made up the guest list,
maybe she knows who Eva is.
280
00:11:56,454 --> 00:11:58,065
Never heard of her.
281
00:11:58,065 --> 00:12:00,023
But you're the one who puts
these parties together, right?
282
00:12:00,023 --> 00:12:01,895
I'm not a party promoter.
283
00:12:01,895 --> 00:12:04,288
I'm a psychedelic doula.
284
00:12:04,288 --> 00:12:05,942
And that entails what, exactly?
285
00:12:05,942 --> 00:12:09,729
I curate bespoke experiences
for high-end clients
286
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interested in exploring
the psychological
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00:12:12,427 --> 00:12:15,343
and intellectual benefits
of psychotropic substances.
288
00:12:15,343 --> 00:12:16,910
You do realize
that those substances
289
00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:18,259
are against the law?
290
00:12:18,259 --> 00:12:20,304
I neither provide
nor partake myself.
291
00:12:20,304 --> 00:12:22,872
Everything I do
is perfectly legal.
292
00:12:22,872 --> 00:12:26,310
Clients come to me, and I
coordinate groups whose auras
293
00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:29,139
are a good match and make
arrangements for them
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to exchange energies and ideas.
295
00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:35,580
This aura matching, it never
involved a woman named Eva?
296
00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:36,973
No.
297
00:12:36,973 --> 00:12:38,279
What about any men
that might have had an issue
298
00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,498
with Marks's relationships
with other women?
299
00:12:40,498 --> 00:12:42,500
Evan did mention
that earlier that day
300
00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,025
he'd gotten into a
big fight with James,
301
00:12:45,025 --> 00:12:46,200
his business partner.
302
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,810
- You mean James Sawyer?
- Yeah.
303
00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:49,943
Evan said the fight
was intense.
304
00:12:49,943 --> 00:12:52,859
Apparently, James was so upset
he punched a hole in the wall.
305
00:12:52,859 --> 00:12:54,861
Did Evan ever tell you
what the fight was about?
306
00:12:54,861 --> 00:12:57,341
No, but I do know
that James does not
307
00:12:57,341 --> 00:12:59,517
approve of the Lifestyle.
308
00:12:59,517 --> 00:13:01,737
He's very uptight--
309
00:13:01,737 --> 00:13:04,435
much more the type to be
territorial over a woman.
310
00:13:08,178 --> 00:13:10,920
I'm sorry, Mr. Sawyer,
but your plane's been grounded,
311
00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,095
and I'm being told to wait.
312
00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:14,097
I wanna talk
to your manager.
313
00:13:14,097 --> 00:13:16,839
You can talk to us.
314
00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:19,842
Hi. Detective Riley.
This is Detective Shaw.
315
00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:21,322
We tried stopping
by your office,
316
00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:22,366
and your assistant
told us were making
317
00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:23,498
a little unexpected trip.
318
00:13:23,498 --> 00:13:24,760
Did you ground my plane?
319
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,935
It seems like
you're in a rush.
320
00:13:25,935 --> 00:13:28,503
Where you headed?
- Why does that matter?
321
00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:30,374
Let's go have
a little talk over here, okay?
322
00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,205
Word on the street is
that you and Evan Marks
323
00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:36,859
had quite the fight last night.
324
00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:39,514
We had an argument.
It's not uncommon.
325
00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,081
We're both passionate people.
326
00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:42,473
You guys argue about a woman?
327
00:13:42,473 --> 00:13:44,388
A woman? No.
328
00:13:44,388 --> 00:13:46,477
If word got out that
the C-suite is throwing
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00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:48,871
drug-fueled sex parties
at corporate HQ,
330
00:13:48,871 --> 00:13:50,220
it's gonna be a problem.
331
00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:51,787
Marks didn't agree?
332
00:13:51,787 --> 00:13:53,441
Evan didn't care that his
Burning Man nonsense
333
00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:55,443
doesn't exactly fly
with investors.
334
00:13:55,443 --> 00:13:57,924
But if you think
I had anything to do
335
00:13:57,924 --> 00:14:00,274
with what happened,
you're crazy.
336
00:14:00,274 --> 00:14:02,580
Evan wasn't just
my business partner.
337
00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:04,191
He was my best friend.
338
00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:07,411
If you had nothing to do
with his murder, why skip town?
339
00:14:07,411 --> 00:14:09,631
I'm not skipping town.
340
00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:12,764
I'm flying to San Francisco
to meet with a crisis PR team.
341
00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:15,463
Evan's death sent the
company's stock into a spiral.
342
00:14:15,463 --> 00:14:16,899
I'm gonna go
mitigate the fallout.
343
00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:18,422
All right,
where were you last night?
344
00:14:18,422 --> 00:14:21,164
D.C. Flew back this morning.
345
00:14:21,164 --> 00:14:24,776
Look, Evan was like
a brother to me,
346
00:14:24,776 --> 00:14:27,127
which meant sometimes
we fought like brothers too.
347
00:14:27,127 --> 00:14:30,043
You guys ever fight over Eva?
348
00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:31,783
Eva?
349
00:14:31,783 --> 00:14:34,264
No, that was completely
under Evan's purview.
350
00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:36,832
I didn't really get involved.
351
00:14:36,832 --> 00:14:38,703
What does Eva have to do
with any of this?
352
00:14:38,703 --> 00:14:40,749
You tell us.
We don't even know who she is.
353
00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,927
Eva isn't a woman.
354
00:14:44,927 --> 00:14:46,929
She's a software program,
355
00:14:46,929 --> 00:14:49,410
specifically
artificial intelligence.
356
00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:52,369
She's the most advanced AI
ever achieved.
357
00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:56,896
♪
358
00:15:02,379 --> 00:15:05,078
Allow me to introduce you
to EVA,
359
00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:07,819
short for Electronic Virtual Assistant.
360
00:15:07,819 --> 00:15:09,778
She's artificial intelligence
on a level
361
00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:12,172
no one's ever seen before.
362
00:15:12,172 --> 00:15:14,348
You and Evan Marks
ever have any disagreements
363
00:15:14,348 --> 00:15:17,090
about her or it?
364
00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:18,743
Research shows
that people prefer
365
00:15:18,743 --> 00:15:21,572
giving artificial intelligence
a female name and pronouns.
366
00:15:21,572 --> 00:15:22,965
Makes it less creepy.
367
00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:25,011
You still didn't
answer my question.
368
00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:27,274
No, I didn't have
any problems with Evan
369
00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:28,971
wanting to implement EVA.
370
00:15:28,971 --> 00:15:31,408
Honestly,
I think it's exciting.
371
00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:32,888
But it was controversial.
372
00:15:32,888 --> 00:15:34,977
There are definitely people
who felt differently.
373
00:15:34,977 --> 00:15:37,023
What was Evan Marks doing
that was so controversial?
374
00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:39,373
As the name implies,
EVA was initially designed
375
00:15:39,373 --> 00:15:41,636
to assist our engineers
and programmers.
376
00:15:41,636 --> 00:15:43,812
But she's self-learning.
377
00:15:43,812 --> 00:15:46,815
And within months,
she advanced exponentially
378
00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:48,512
beyond her initial capabilities.
379
00:15:48,512 --> 00:15:51,472
The program is self-iterative,
and its processes operate
380
00:15:51,472 --> 00:15:53,909
in a kind of black box.
381
00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:55,737
There's no real way for us
to track what algorithms
382
00:15:55,737 --> 00:15:57,434
she's using to evolve.
383
00:15:57,434 --> 00:16:00,394
Not my area of expertise, but
doesn't that seem concerning?
384
00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:02,004
Hence the controversy.
385
00:16:02,004 --> 00:16:03,223
Aren't there regulations
in place
386
00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:05,007
around this kind of thing?
- Not really.
387
00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:06,791
Evan was a big proponent
of seeing
388
00:16:06,791 --> 00:16:09,359
how far EVA could go
on her own.
389
00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:11,666
The goal is for her to assist
the engineers and programmers,
390
00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,147
but she can actually
do their jobs.
391
00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:15,409
Except faster.
392
00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:16,801
And for free.
393
00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:18,542
That must have pissed off
a lot of employees.
394
00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:22,546
Yeah, about 200 of them.
395
00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:24,070
[elevator dings]
396
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:26,289
Last week,
Evan Marks fired over half
397
00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,857
of his company's engineers
and replaced them
398
00:16:28,857 --> 00:16:31,207
with the EVA AI system.
399
00:16:31,207 --> 00:16:33,905
So you're saying that
when our witness
400
00:16:33,905 --> 00:16:35,995
overheard Marks's killer say,
401
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:37,474
"You're turning her
against me,"
402
00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:39,607
he was talking about
a computer program?
403
00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:41,043
That's what we're thinking.
404
00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:43,219
And according to Kevin Wu,
the operations manager,
405
00:16:43,219 --> 00:16:46,048
Marks was ruthless about
the layoffs, right?
406
00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:47,963
He kicked out 200 employees
on their asses
407
00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:49,704
just like that without warning.
408
00:16:49,704 --> 00:16:52,402
According to him, the future
left these people behind.
409
00:16:52,402 --> 00:16:54,274
All that mind expanding
he had done
410
00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:56,319
led him to innovating
beyond human empathy.
411
00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,582
That's a lot of suspects
to sort through.
412
00:16:58,582 --> 00:16:59,888
It is.
413
00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:01,672
However, we can
put one of those suspects
414
00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:02,978
at the crime scene.
415
00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:04,501
So Wu gave us
all the data he had
416
00:17:04,501 --> 00:17:06,547
on all the fired employees,
and it turns out,
417
00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:10,029
the former chief programmer
Ben Stafford
418
00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:13,249
used his key card
at the VenZip offices
419
00:17:13,249 --> 00:17:15,469
the night Marks was murdered.
420
00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,384
We checked with our
psychedelic doula friend too.
421
00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:19,125
She confirmed
he definitely was not
422
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,083
on the list for the
Lifestyle party that night.
423
00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:23,259
I can do you one better.
Listen to this.
424
00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:24,956
Stafford posted this
on his social media
425
00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:26,349
the day before the murder.
426
00:17:26,349 --> 00:17:28,743
"Evan Marks will be
the downfall of humanity
427
00:17:28,743 --> 00:17:30,179
"as we know it.
428
00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:34,096
He's a plague that needs to be
eradicated immediately."
429
00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:36,142
That's enough
for a search warrant.
430
00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:38,100
Why don't you see
what you can turn up?
431
00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:40,842
[suspenseful music]
432
00:17:40,842 --> 00:17:42,148
No, no, no,
don't touch that.
433
00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:43,758
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Back up. All right?
434
00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:45,325
Just stay where you are.
435
00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:46,978
This is insane.
436
00:17:46,978 --> 00:17:48,545
I was just blowing off steam.
437
00:17:48,545 --> 00:17:51,113
I wasn't saying I was
actually gonna kill him.
438
00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:52,593
Then what were you doing
at the VenZip offices
439
00:17:52,593 --> 00:17:53,942
the night of the murder?
440
00:17:53,942 --> 00:17:55,596
I--I don't know what
you're talking about.
441
00:17:55,596 --> 00:17:57,076
- Right.
- Detectives?
442
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,600
We found this in the dumpster
behind the building.
443
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,515
- 9 millimeter.
- Yep.
444
00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:03,517
That means we're gonna finish
this little conversation
445
00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:05,301
of ours downtown, okay?
446
00:18:05,301 --> 00:18:07,651
Let's go.
447
00:18:07,651 --> 00:18:10,480
Ballistic tests prove
that the gun that we found
448
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,309
was the one used to kill Marks,
the guy who had just fired you.
449
00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:15,659
We know you were there.
Just tell us what happened.
450
00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:18,749
Any chance I could get
some of my medication?
451
00:18:18,749 --> 00:18:20,403
Medication?
You mean the, uh,
452
00:18:20,403 --> 00:18:23,493
the Adderall that we found when
we searched your apartment?
453
00:18:23,493 --> 00:18:25,365
You're gonna have to produce
a doctor's prescription,
454
00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:26,714
because the bottle
that we found
455
00:18:26,714 --> 00:18:27,802
had no pharmacist label on it.
456
00:18:27,802 --> 00:18:30,370
I don't have a prescription.
457
00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:31,936
Then you don't
get the Adderall.
458
00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:35,679
It helps me think straight.
459
00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:36,854
How about this?
460
00:18:36,854 --> 00:18:38,682
I'm happy to get you
an aspirin,
461
00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:41,032
but until you start
telling us the truth,
462
00:18:41,032 --> 00:18:42,686
it's the best I can do.
463
00:18:42,686 --> 00:18:46,864
Ben, come on.
464
00:18:46,864 --> 00:18:48,518
I'm looking at you,
and I can tell
465
00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:52,131
that this is not easy to keep
this all bottled up inside.
466
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:53,915
[apprehensive music]
467
00:18:53,915 --> 00:18:56,874
You're not a bad guy, are you?
468
00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:02,097
♪
469
00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:03,533
I brought the gun
to scare him.
470
00:19:03,533 --> 00:19:06,536
I just wanted him to give
everyone their jobs back.
471
00:19:06,536 --> 00:19:09,670
Guy like that,
he wouldn't listen, would he?
472
00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,672
No.
473
00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:15,371
The only people he cares about
are his rich friends.
474
00:19:15,371 --> 00:19:17,112
Because of him,
hundreds of people
475
00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:18,809
aren't gonna be able
to support their families.
476
00:19:18,809 --> 00:19:22,335
Meanwhile, he's just up in
his office, throwing a party.
477
00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,206
He wouldn't even have a company
478
00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:27,035
if it wasn't for the work
we all did.
479
00:19:27,035 --> 00:19:28,558
Okay, good.
480
00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:31,561
So, you had an argument.
481
00:19:31,561 --> 00:19:33,911
Uh...
482
00:19:33,911 --> 00:19:37,219
I was so angry.
483
00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:38,786
It just wasn't fair.
484
00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:44,139
♪
485
00:19:44,139 --> 00:19:47,316
Next thing I knew...
486
00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:52,669
I followed him to the ATM,
and I--
487
00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:56,543
I shot him.
488
00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:02,113
Okay.
489
00:20:02,113 --> 00:20:03,550
I'm so sorry.
490
00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:05,160
I didn't mean to.
491
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,727
[knock at door]
- Come in.
492
00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:12,298
Don't say another word.
493
00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:15,605
I'm Mr. Stafford's attorney.
This interview is over.
494
00:20:15,605 --> 00:20:17,781
Ben Stafford,
you are under arrest
495
00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:20,044
for the murder of Evan Marks.
496
00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:21,481
You have the right
to remain silent
497
00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:24,527
and refuse to answer questions,
do you understand?
498
00:20:29,053 --> 00:20:30,881
People v. Benjamin Stafford,
499
00:20:30,881 --> 00:20:33,275
charging murder
in the second degree.
500
00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:35,538
How does the defendant plea?
501
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,279
Not guilty, Your Honor.
502
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,889
Tyrone,
I'll hear you on bail.
503
00:20:38,889 --> 00:20:41,892
Your Honor, Ben Stafford
shot and killed Evan Marks
504
00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:44,808
as retribution
for Marks firing him.
505
00:20:44,808 --> 00:20:47,594
We cannot only place the
defendant near the crime scene
506
00:20:47,594 --> 00:20:48,899
around the time of the murder
507
00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:50,640
and tie the murder weapon
to him,
508
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,340
but Stafford himself
confessed to detectives.
509
00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:56,777
Stafford lacks deep ties
to the community
510
00:20:56,777 --> 00:20:59,997
and is facing a potential
25-year sentence,
511
00:20:59,997 --> 00:21:02,217
making him a serious
flight risk.
512
00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:03,653
We ask for remand.
513
00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:05,568
Police coerced
a false confession
514
00:21:05,568 --> 00:21:08,049
from an innocent man
under extreme duress,
515
00:21:08,049 --> 00:21:10,747
an innocent man with no
criminal history, I might add.
516
00:21:10,747 --> 00:21:12,271
We are confident
that Mr. Stafford
517
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,360
will be fully exonerated
and ask that he be released
518
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,491
on his own recognizance.
519
00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,319
Bail set at 1 million.
520
00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,321
[gavel bangs]
Next case.
521
00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:22,455
[indistinct chatter]
522
00:21:24,848 --> 00:21:26,807
The jury is never gonna hear
that confession.
523
00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:33,030
Look, how about this?
524
00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:34,380
I'm happy to get you
an aspirin,
525
00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:35,642
but until you start
telling us the truth,
526
00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,122
that's the best I can do.
527
00:21:39,907 --> 00:21:41,996
Ben Stafford developed
a physical dependency
528
00:21:41,996 --> 00:21:44,520
on Adderall as a result
of the grueling hours
529
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,348
and high performance expectations
530
00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:47,958
of his job at VenZip.
531
00:21:47,958 --> 00:21:50,570
During the interrogation, he
was suffering from withdrawal.
532
00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:52,398
He made multiple requests
for the drug.
533
00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:54,051
In the course
of an interrogation,
534
00:21:54,051 --> 00:21:56,924
the suspect requested
an illegally procured
535
00:21:56,924 --> 00:22:00,144
controlled substance and
detectives, following protocol,
536
00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:01,624
denied the request.
537
00:22:01,624 --> 00:22:03,974
Police capitalized on my
client's compromised state
538
00:22:03,974 --> 00:22:06,325
by dangling a promise
of access to the pills
539
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:07,804
in exchange for a confession.
540
00:22:07,804 --> 00:22:09,719
He would have confessed
to anything in that moment
541
00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:11,373
if it meant he'd get a fix,
and Detective Riley knew it.
542
00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,070
Riley made no such promise.
543
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:15,682
"Until you tell us the truth,
that's the best I can do."
544
00:22:17,292 --> 00:22:18,772
It was heavily implied.
545
00:22:18,772 --> 00:22:22,602
That is a wild distortion
of Detective Riley's words.
546
00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:26,170
I understand that
the detective may not
547
00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:29,260
have intended to imply
a quid pro quo,
548
00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:30,653
but there's sufficient evidence
549
00:22:30,653 --> 00:22:32,612
to support the argument
that the defendant--
550
00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:34,091
in his altered state--
551
00:22:34,091 --> 00:22:36,790
interpreted it as such,
making the confession
552
00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:40,402
involuntarily coerced
and inherently unreliable.
553
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:42,796
- Your Honor--
- The confession is out.
554
00:22:42,796 --> 00:22:44,841
[suspenseful music]
555
00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:47,583
So you have a defendant
who confessed to the crime,
556
00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:50,194
but the jury doesn't
get to know that.
557
00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:53,633
Can we get a conviction
without the confession?
558
00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:55,243
I think so.
559
00:22:55,243 --> 00:22:58,289
Stafford's key card puts him
at the VenZip offices
560
00:22:58,289 --> 00:23:00,291
right after midnight
on the night of the murder.
561
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:02,381
Marks was shot right
outside the building.
562
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,426
And Stafford had already
cleared out his office
563
00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,123
the week before.
564
00:23:06,123 --> 00:23:07,647
They're gonna have
trouble coming up
565
00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:09,736
with a viable explanation
for him being there
566
00:23:09,736 --> 00:23:11,955
other than confronting Marks,
especially at that hour.
567
00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:14,784
Plus, the murder weapon was
recovered in his dumpster,
568
00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,307
and you add to that
the clear-cut motive.
569
00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:17,570
Yes, I still think we can win.
570
00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:19,789
Just be careful.
571
00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:21,748
The motive, in this case,
has the potential
572
00:23:21,748 --> 00:23:23,880
to hurt as much as help.
573
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,755
Fear of losing one's livelihood
to AI is pervasive these days.
574
00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:31,671
All I'm saying, Nolan, is,
it's gonna be easier
575
00:23:31,671 --> 00:23:33,281
to sympathize
with the defendant
576
00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:37,111
than the billionaire who
fired hundreds of employees.
577
00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:40,810
Humanize the victim,
and remind them
578
00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:44,248
Ben Stafford is the villain
in this story.
579
00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:48,035
♪
580
00:23:48,035 --> 00:23:51,168
Mr. Sawyer, you were present
when Evan Marks notified
581
00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:53,257
the defendant that the company
was letting him go,
582
00:23:53,257 --> 00:23:55,738
is that correct?
- I was.
583
00:23:55,738 --> 00:23:58,959
As co-founders, Evan and I
took our responsibilities
584
00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:01,135
to our employees
very seriously.
585
00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:04,704
We wanted to deliver the news
as humanely as possible.
586
00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:07,097
And how did
the defendant react?
587
00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:08,621
He was furious.
588
00:24:08,621 --> 00:24:12,189
He threw a fit,
screaming, making threats.
589
00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,975
It was a lot to take given that
it was his fault that
590
00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:17,107
it was happening
in the first place.
591
00:24:17,107 --> 00:24:18,065
How so?
592
00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:20,067
He was the one
who created EVA.
593
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:22,852
That's the artificial
intelligence program
594
00:24:22,852 --> 00:24:24,201
that the company is now using?
595
00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:26,639
Yes, we discovered that
he had essentially
596
00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:29,380
designed the software
to do his job for him.
597
00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:33,384
He thought he was clever,
that he could just sit around
598
00:24:33,384 --> 00:24:35,778
and do nothing while
collecting a big fat paycheck.
599
00:24:35,778 --> 00:24:37,563
The defendant wasn't
the only employee
600
00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:39,565
that you and Marks
replaced with EVA.
601
00:24:39,565 --> 00:24:41,088
Unfortunately,
the software did
602
00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:43,264
make a number of jobs
at the company redundant,
603
00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:46,615
and we struggled
with what to do with that,
604
00:24:46,615 --> 00:24:48,356
Evan more than me, even.
605
00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:51,794
But ultimately, he felt
we had a responsibility
606
00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,057
to push the boundaries
of science and technology
607
00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:58,801
that through innovation,
some sort of utopia
608
00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:00,150
could be reached.
609
00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:01,891
When you say
that the defendant
610
00:25:01,891 --> 00:25:06,592
made threats to Marks,
what did he say, exactly?
611
00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:08,245
He got right up
in Evan's face
612
00:25:08,245 --> 00:25:10,726
and said he was gonna pay
for what he'd done.
613
00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,336
Thank you.
614
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:13,816
No further questions.
615
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:20,736
Mr. Sawyer,
how would you characterize
616
00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:22,259
your relationship
with Evan Marks?
617
00:25:22,259 --> 00:25:24,044
He was my best friend.
618
00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:25,741
And on the business side,
619
00:25:25,741 --> 00:25:27,351
things between you two
were good?
620
00:25:27,351 --> 00:25:30,920
We had the perfect complement
of skill sets.
621
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,879
Evan excelled
at the big picture stuff,
622
00:25:32,879 --> 00:25:34,445
while I'm good at executing.
623
00:25:34,445 --> 00:25:39,059
Mr. Sawyer, do you
recognize these emails?
624
00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:47,067
It looks like
correspondences between myself
625
00:25:47,067 --> 00:25:48,547
and some of our
company board members.
626
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,200
Objection, relevance.
627
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,856
These emails establish that
Mr. Sawyer is not being honest
628
00:25:53,856 --> 00:25:55,423
with the court
about the state of affairs
629
00:25:55,423 --> 00:25:56,467
between him and Evan Marks.
630
00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:57,643
Overruled.
631
00:25:58,992 --> 00:26:01,298
What was the nature
of these exchanges?
632
00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:03,257
I reached out to some
of our board members
633
00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:05,085
to see if I could
rely on their support.
634
00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:07,435
Because Evan Marks
was trying
635
00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:09,132
to push you out of the company?
636
00:26:09,132 --> 00:26:10,307
Yes.
637
00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:12,135
He'd discussed that
with a few people.
638
00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:14,007
He felt like you
were holding him back,
639
00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:17,793
squelching his creative genius,
isn't that correct?
640
00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:20,317
We were in the process
of sorting it all out.
641
00:26:20,317 --> 00:26:23,625
What did you discover in your
communication with the board?
642
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,409
That I--
643
00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:28,674
[tense music]
644
00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:30,589
I didn't have the support
I'd imagined.
645
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,982
Meaning Marks
could effectively
646
00:26:32,982 --> 00:26:35,376
fire you at any time?
647
00:26:35,376 --> 00:26:37,334
Yes.
648
00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:39,162
But now that he's dead,
649
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:42,644
you've been appointed
sole CEO, correct?
650
00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:44,646
If you're trying to imply
651
00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:47,431
that I'm the one
who killed Evan,
652
00:26:47,431 --> 00:26:49,825
you're wasting your time.
653
00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:51,871
I was in D.C.
the night he was shot.
654
00:26:51,871 --> 00:26:53,176
That doesn't mean you
couldn't pay somebody
655
00:26:53,176 --> 00:26:54,743
to do your dirty work.
- Objection, Your Honor.
656
00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:55,918
The defense is trying
to suggest--
657
00:26:55,918 --> 00:26:58,660
She's not suggesting,
she's asserting.
658
00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:01,576
James Sawyer killed Evan Marks.
659
00:27:01,576 --> 00:27:03,186
- Objection.
- Sustained.
660
00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:05,362
Please disregard
defense counsel's statement.
661
00:27:05,362 --> 00:27:12,239
♪
662
00:27:12,239 --> 00:27:15,851
You hung me out
to dry up there.
663
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,636
I had no way of knowing
they were coming for you.
664
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:21,117
Because you didn't tell us
what was really going on.
665
00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:24,599
How did the defense know
about Marks's power grab?
666
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,340
Great question.
667
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:27,733
I have no idea.
668
00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:29,517
Those were all company emails.
669
00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:31,432
Do you think Stafford
hacked your server?
670
00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:34,565
For all I know,
he had EVA do it for him.
671
00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:36,829
They're trying to make it
look like I killed Evan.
672
00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:39,048
That's insane.
673
00:27:39,048 --> 00:27:40,571
He's gonna get away
with murder.
674
00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:47,056
♪
675
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,885
Tell Detective Riley
676
00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:52,018
we're calling him
first thing tomorrow.
677
00:27:52,018 --> 00:27:55,238
We need to refocus the jury.
678
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:57,371
Remind them
who the real killer is.
679
00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:00,287
Like it or not, Nolan,
the defense just offered up
680
00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:03,769
a perfectly plausible
alternative suspect.
681
00:28:11,602 --> 00:28:13,953
Detective Riley, in the
course of your investigation,
682
00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:15,128
you discovered
that the defendant
683
00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:16,695
had been present
at the VenZip offices
684
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,784
the night Evan Marks
was murdered, is that correct?
685
00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:21,438
Yes, he entered the building
at 12:14 a.m.
686
00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:24,006
And Evan Marks was shot
right outside of there
687
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,268
not long after that.
688
00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:27,053
Which is why
the defendant immediately
689
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:28,445
became a person of interest.
690
00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:30,012
We then uncovered
a series of threats
691
00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:31,710
that he had made against Marks,
so we executed
692
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,146
a search warrant
of his apartment.
693
00:28:33,146 --> 00:28:34,451
And what did you find?
694
00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:35,844
We found
a 9-millimeter pistol
695
00:28:35,844 --> 00:28:37,541
in the dumpster
behind his building.
696
00:28:39,543 --> 00:28:40,849
Is this the gun
that you found?
697
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:42,155
That's the one.
698
00:28:42,155 --> 00:28:44,984
And did you run
ballistic tests on this gun?
699
00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:46,159
We did.
700
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:47,160
They confirmed that it was,
in fact,
701
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,335
the weapon used to kill Marks.
702
00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:50,337
Thank you.
No further questions.
703
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:53,340
[tense music]
704
00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:54,950
♪
705
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:57,648
Is there any evidence--
other than the keycard data--
706
00:28:57,648 --> 00:29:01,174
that my client was
in the office that night?
707
00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:03,654
For example, security video?
708
00:29:03,654 --> 00:29:05,221
No, Evan Marks
had turned off
709
00:29:05,221 --> 00:29:06,440
the security cameras
that night.
710
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,789
So that there would be
no evidence
711
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:10,313
of his illicit sex party
filled with illegal drugs?
712
00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:12,098
Objection,
calls for speculation.
713
00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:14,274
Sustained.
714
00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:16,232
Were Ben Stafford's
fingerprints
715
00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:17,364
on the gun that you found?
716
00:29:17,364 --> 00:29:19,540
No, it had been wiped clean.
717
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:20,759
No further questions.
718
00:29:23,892 --> 00:29:27,983
Detective, was the dumpster
where you recovered the gun
719
00:29:27,983 --> 00:29:29,637
accessible to just anyone?
720
00:29:29,637 --> 00:29:31,204
It was not.
It was behind a locked gate.
721
00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:33,206
Well, who had a key
to that gate?
722
00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:34,598
Only the tenants.
723
00:29:34,598 --> 00:29:37,079
Do any of the tenants--
other than Ben Stafford--
724
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,255
have any ties to Evan Marks?
725
00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:40,735
None that we could ascertain.
726
00:29:40,735 --> 00:29:42,258
Thank you.
727
00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:44,043
The prosecution rests.
728
00:29:44,043 --> 00:29:46,132
You may call your first
witness, Ms. Greenough.
729
00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:49,352
Your Honor, the defense calls
Ben Stafford to the stand.
730
00:29:52,051 --> 00:29:54,618
I had nothing to do
with what happened to Evan.
731
00:29:54,618 --> 00:29:56,751
Then how do you explain
all of the evidence
732
00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:59,014
that the prosecution
has laid out?
733
00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:02,583
I'M being set up
by James Sawyer again.
734
00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:04,150
What do you mean again?
735
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:05,716
Well, about six months ago,
736
00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:07,893
James and Evan called me
into a meeting.
737
00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:09,895
They were frustrated
that the company's
738
00:30:09,895 --> 00:30:13,246
engineers and programmers
weren't working fast enough.
739
00:30:13,246 --> 00:30:14,943
It was absurd.
740
00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:19,861
Everyone was working 16 hours
a day, seven days a week.
741
00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:22,603
I had to take Adderall
just to keep up.
742
00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:24,344
What did they
wanna discuss?
743
00:30:24,344 --> 00:30:26,650
They wanted me
to create an AI program
744
00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:30,393
to carry some of the workload,
make things go faster.
745
00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:31,742
And what did you say?
746
00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:34,528
I had real reservations
about the idea.
747
00:30:34,528 --> 00:30:37,313
There were obvious
ethical implications,
748
00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:39,098
but also, I didn't
want to be responsible
749
00:30:39,098 --> 00:30:42,101
for putting my coworkers' jobs
in jeopardy.
750
00:30:42,101 --> 00:30:44,233
But James and Evan made clear
751
00:30:44,233 --> 00:30:45,669
they'd fire me
if I didn't do it.
752
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:47,628
So you did
what they demanded.
753
00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:50,936
And they ended up
firing me anyway.
754
00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:53,503
And then when
they fired everyone else,
755
00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:55,941
they told them
that it was my fault,
756
00:30:55,941 --> 00:31:02,425
that I created EVA on my own
so I didn't have to work.
757
00:31:02,425 --> 00:31:05,385
- They made you the fall guy.
- Exactly.
758
00:31:05,385 --> 00:31:08,562
And now James Sawyer
is doing it again.
759
00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:11,957
I was at home,
asleep in my bed that night.
760
00:31:11,957 --> 00:31:14,133
I've never fired a gun
in my life.
761
00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,570
But your key card--
762
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:19,007
Easiest thing
in the world to clone.
763
00:31:19,007 --> 00:31:20,617
My ten-year-old niece
could do it.
764
00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:22,445
Well, what about the gun?
765
00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:24,099
It was found behind
your apartment building.
766
00:31:24,099 --> 00:31:27,363
James has access
to my personnel files.
767
00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:28,669
He knows where I live.
768
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:30,845
But according
to the detective,
769
00:31:30,845 --> 00:31:32,978
you need a key
to access the dumpster.
770
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:35,937
Half the time nobody
remembers to lock that gate,
771
00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:39,375
and even if it's locked,
it's not hard to bypass.
772
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:43,162
I swear, I'm being set up here.
773
00:31:43,162 --> 00:31:44,903
I'm innocent.
774
00:31:46,556 --> 00:31:48,341
No further questions.
775
00:31:48,341 --> 00:31:51,300
[tense music]
776
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:55,478
♪
777
00:31:55,478 --> 00:31:58,220
So...
[clears throat]
778
00:31:58,220 --> 00:31:59,743
By your own admission,
779
00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:03,095
you had plenty of reason
to want Evan Marks dead.
780
00:32:03,095 --> 00:32:06,011
He fired you and made you
781
00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:07,882
the fall guy
for all the other layoffs.
782
00:32:07,882 --> 00:32:10,711
And, in fact, you made
multiple threats against him,
783
00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,061
both online and in person,
isn't that true?
784
00:32:13,061 --> 00:32:16,630
Which is how James knew
I'd be the perfect patsy.
785
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:18,632
So we're to believe
that James Sawyer,
786
00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:20,068
one of the most respected
787
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:22,636
and accomplished businessmen
of our time,
788
00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:25,204
somehow arranged the murder
789
00:32:25,204 --> 00:32:27,858
of his closest friend
and business partner
790
00:32:27,858 --> 00:32:31,862
and then created some
elaborate scheme to frame you?
791
00:32:31,862 --> 00:32:33,908
That's who these people are.
792
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:39,566
Evan Marks and James Sawyer,
they're all monsters.
793
00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:44,832
They use honest,
hard-working people as pawns.
794
00:32:44,832 --> 00:32:48,575
I'm just one more
meaningless no one
795
00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:52,013
easily sacrificed so that
James Sawyer
796
00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:56,583
can gain more power
and more profit.
797
00:32:56,583 --> 00:32:59,760
And the thing is,
guys like him,
798
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,154
they always
get away with it too.
799
00:33:02,154 --> 00:33:09,117
♪
800
00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:11,946
That was a hell
of a performance.
801
00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:14,253
If I hadn't seen Stafford's
confession with my own eyes--
802
00:33:14,253 --> 00:33:15,776
I know.
803
00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:18,170
- Good, caught you.
- What's going on?
804
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:19,823
There's something
I need you to see.
805
00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:22,217
Is there an office
we can go to?
806
00:33:22,217 --> 00:33:23,871
Our offices were in the process
807
00:33:23,871 --> 00:33:25,307
of upgrading
our security system
808
00:33:25,307 --> 00:33:27,005
right before Evan was murdered.
809
00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:28,919
So I took a look at one
of the new cameras
810
00:33:28,919 --> 00:33:31,226
on the exterior
of the building.
811
00:33:31,226 --> 00:33:35,839
There's a direct shot of the
ATM where Evan was murdered.
812
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,755
How the hell did police miss
that in their initial canvass?
813
00:33:38,755 --> 00:33:40,192
Camera's so tiny,
you can't even see it
814
00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:41,715
unless you to look for it.
815
00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:43,934
But it was operational
that night
816
00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:45,893
even though it wasn't
on the mainframe,
817
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:48,722
meaning that it wasn't
logged into the system.
818
00:33:48,722 --> 00:33:51,681
[suspenseful music]
819
00:33:51,681 --> 00:33:58,471
♪
820
00:33:58,471 --> 00:34:03,476
That's Ben Stafford,
clear as day.
821
00:34:03,476 --> 00:34:06,131
Oh, my God.
822
00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:08,046
We got him.
823
00:34:18,317 --> 00:34:21,842
Hey. You're in early.
824
00:34:21,842 --> 00:34:24,149
Yeah, I couldn't sleep.
825
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:26,890
Something was bugging me.
826
00:34:26,890 --> 00:34:28,022
Look at this.
827
00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:34,855
What am I missing?
828
00:34:34,855 --> 00:34:36,335
Well, this entire trial,
829
00:34:36,335 --> 00:34:39,164
Stafford has been taking
meticulous notes
830
00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:40,948
as people testify, you noticed?
831
00:34:40,948 --> 00:34:44,299
Yeah.
Just figured he was--
832
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:45,866
[suspenseful music]
833
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,607
Oh.
834
00:34:47,607 --> 00:34:50,175
Stafford is left-handed.
835
00:34:50,175 --> 00:34:52,655
But the shooter in this video
is using his right hand.
836
00:34:56,181 --> 00:34:59,227
So what, you're worried
the video isn't real?
837
00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:01,751
The defense blaming
James Sawyer for Marks's murder
838
00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:05,015
is the top headline in news
outlets across the country.
839
00:35:05,015 --> 00:35:08,236
What are the chances
that Sawyer just happens
840
00:35:08,236 --> 00:35:11,283
to be the one to find
the perfect piece of evidence,
841
00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:15,025
evidence that nails Stafford
and clears his name?
842
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,158
I get what you're saying.
843
00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:20,292
He is the CEO.
844
00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:22,163
They got all kinds
of security cameras.
845
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,209
But he didn't find
the video until yesterday?
846
00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:26,733
I know the timing
is convenient,
847
00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:28,952
but it doesn't prove anything.
848
00:35:28,952 --> 00:35:30,389
No.
849
00:35:30,389 --> 00:35:34,088
But given Sawyer's access
to advanced technology,
850
00:35:34,088 --> 00:35:36,046
a deepfake video
of this caliber
851
00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:39,049
isn't outside
the realm of possibility.
852
00:35:41,226 --> 00:35:42,444
So what do you wanna do?
853
00:35:42,444 --> 00:35:46,492
I am going to ask
for a continuance
854
00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:50,583
while you get clarity
on the video's authenticity.
855
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:53,673
ITB used every tool they
have to analyze this thing,
856
00:35:53,673 --> 00:35:56,066
but the results
were inconclusive.
857
00:35:57,677 --> 00:35:59,635
So they can't tell
if it's real or fake.
858
00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:01,681
I mean, the biggest giveaway
would be here.
859
00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:04,510
For whatever reason,
even the most advanced AI
860
00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:07,643
still struggles to render human
hands and fingers correctly.
861
00:36:07,643 --> 00:36:11,212
But from this far away
and at this resolution,
862
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:13,083
it's impossible
to zoom in enough
863
00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:15,129
to see Stafford's hands
in detail.
864
00:36:15,129 --> 00:36:17,914
That could be by design
to avoid detection.
865
00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:19,742
It could be.
866
00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:21,527
It could also just be
a coincidence
867
00:36:21,527 --> 00:36:23,006
that the camera
is that far away.
868
00:36:23,006 --> 00:36:26,140
Yeah, well,
the problem is,
869
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:29,230
the coincidences
are really piling up here.
870
00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:30,971
If this is a deepfake,
it is one
871
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:32,886
of the best ones I've seen.
872
00:36:32,886 --> 00:36:36,019
But we just can't
say conclusively
873
00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:38,196
one way or the other.
874
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,762
[knocks]
Hey.
875
00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:42,374
So, um, Riley and Shaw
went back out
876
00:36:42,374 --> 00:36:43,810
to the VenZip offices.
877
00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:46,029
They confirmed that
there is, in fact,
878
00:36:46,029 --> 00:36:48,902
a camera on the exterior
of the building facing the ATM.
879
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:51,731
Is there any way to verify
how long that camera
880
00:36:51,731 --> 00:36:53,254
has actually been there?
881
00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:56,475
There is documentation
alleging when it was installed,
882
00:36:56,475 --> 00:37:00,261
but that would be easier
to manufacture
883
00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:01,262
than a video, so--
884
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:03,743
- So no.
- Correct.
885
00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:08,530
Which means we don't actually
know that it's false.
886
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:11,751
We don't know that
it's real, either.
887
00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:16,930
If we don't present
the video, can we win?
888
00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:18,323
I'm not sure.
889
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:21,369
It's a circumstantial case
with an unlikable victim.
890
00:37:21,369 --> 00:37:26,374
And a likable defendant
who acts like he's the victim.
891
00:37:26,374 --> 00:37:30,204
If the defense wants
to challenge the video,
892
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,554
they can call an expert
and debunk it.
893
00:37:32,554 --> 00:37:34,469
Jack, we don't know
if it's actually real.
894
00:37:34,469 --> 00:37:35,818
It's up to the judge.
895
00:37:35,818 --> 00:37:37,429
He can deny its admission,
896
00:37:37,429 --> 00:37:39,996
or he can leave it
up to the jury.
897
00:37:39,996 --> 00:37:42,521
But by presenting it,
we're vouching for it.
898
00:37:43,957 --> 00:37:48,266
We are telling the jury
we believe it's real.
899
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:49,963
I know Stafford is guilty.
900
00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:52,531
He confessed, for God's sake,
but if we don't start drawing
901
00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:55,490
the line between what's real
and what's not,
902
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:59,451
we'll be contributing to the
very problem that could--
903
00:37:59,451 --> 00:38:02,454
hell, if every deepfake video
is admissible,
904
00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:04,804
we'll never get
another conviction.
905
00:38:04,804 --> 00:38:07,981
All the defense has to do is
show some perfectly credible
906
00:38:07,981 --> 00:38:10,026
video that disproves our case.
907
00:38:10,026 --> 00:38:12,812
We have a duty here.
908
00:38:12,812 --> 00:38:16,772
Our duty is to the truth,
and the truth, in this case,
909
00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:20,298
is that Ben Stafford
murdered Evan Marks.
910
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,648
[apprehensive music]
911
00:38:22,648 --> 00:38:25,215
Use the video.
912
00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,349
End of the day,
it's up to the jury
913
00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:31,831
to determine what the truth is.
914
00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:38,838
♪
915
00:38:40,013 --> 00:38:41,319
That's--that's not me.
916
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,190
That's--no, I don't--
917
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:46,367
Sorry, you're--you're saying
that's not you in the video?
918
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:47,890
Right there.
919
00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:49,501
No, I can see it's me.
920
00:38:49,501 --> 00:38:51,459
It must be a deepfake.
921
00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:55,202
So it is you, but what,
it's the video that's not real?
922
00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:57,335
First off, I'm left-handed.
923
00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:58,858
But your right hand
is functional.
924
00:38:58,858 --> 00:39:00,686
You can certainly shoot
with that hand as well.
925
00:39:00,686 --> 00:39:02,775
Maybe, but I don't,
and I didn't.
926
00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:07,214
So this video that we are
all looking at with our eyes,
927
00:39:07,214 --> 00:39:09,216
you're saying, well,
that's not real.
928
00:39:09,216 --> 00:39:10,826
Objection,
asked and answered.
929
00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:12,350
Sustained.
930
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,482
You're trying
to make it sound crazy,
931
00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:16,484
but with AI these days,
932
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,051
you can make something
like this.
933
00:39:18,051 --> 00:39:20,532
You don't even need
to doctor existing video.
934
00:39:20,532 --> 00:39:22,708
You could just
make it whole cloth.
935
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:27,321
So you'd have us believe
that your key card was cloned,
936
00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:29,062
that the murder weapon
was planted,
937
00:39:29,062 --> 00:39:34,633
and now actual security footage
was created from thin air
938
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:38,332
using technology more advanced
than anyone here has ever seen,
939
00:39:38,332 --> 00:39:42,162
all to frame you
when the simpler,
940
00:39:42,162 --> 00:39:48,429
the more obvious answer is
that you murdered Evan Marks.
941
00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:50,562
[tense music]
942
00:39:50,562 --> 00:39:52,999
Please,
you have to believe me.
943
00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:57,569
Mr. Stafford,
why should we believe you
944
00:39:57,569 --> 00:40:01,747
over what we can see
with our own eyes?
945
00:40:01,747 --> 00:40:08,710
♪
946
00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:20,505
Mr. Foreperson, has the jury
reached a verdict?
947
00:40:20,505 --> 00:40:22,028
We have, Your Honor.
948
00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,900
In the charge of murder
in the second degree,
949
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:29,252
we find the defendant,
Benjamin Stafford, guilty.
950
00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:30,689
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
951
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,473
thank you for your service.
952
00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:34,257
[gavel bangs]
953
00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:41,395
♪
954
00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:59,021
It was the right verdict,
put away a guilty man.
955
00:40:59,021 --> 00:41:00,806
Yeah.
956
00:41:00,806 --> 00:41:05,985
But what happens the next time
or the time after that?
957
00:41:05,985 --> 00:41:08,509
This job was hard enough
when we knew the difference
958
00:41:08,509 --> 00:41:11,817
between real and fake.
959
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:13,862
But now?
960
00:41:13,862 --> 00:41:20,826
♪
961
00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:29,443
[dramatic music]
962
00:41:29,443 --> 00:41:36,537
♪
963
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:59,560
[wolf howls]