1 00:00:05,380 --> 00:00:05,547 . 2 00:00:05,630 --> 00:00:06,881 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:07,632 --> 00:00:09,092 the people are represented 4 00:00:09,134 --> 00:00:11,469 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 5 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:13,388 the police, who investigate crime, 6 00:00:13,513 --> 00:00:16,141 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 7 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:17,809 These are their stories. 8 00:00:19,310 --> 00:00:22,105 [tense music] 9 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:29,237 ♪ ♪ 10 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:20,872 - Come on, Mark. 11 00:01:20,955 --> 00:01:22,457 You thought you were gonna sneak out of here 12 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:23,958 without anyone noticing? 13 00:01:25,543 --> 00:01:28,254 all: Surprise! 14 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:29,547 - No, no, no. 15 00:01:29,631 --> 00:01:32,258 You guys. 16 00:01:32,384 --> 00:01:33,802 - Hey, drink up. 17 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:34,969 Sparkling cider. 18 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:36,971 No need to write us up. 19 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:38,348 Listen up, everybody. 20 00:01:38,431 --> 00:01:40,100 I'm not gonna belabor this, guys. 21 00:01:40,183 --> 00:01:41,643 I know we got places to be. 22 00:01:41,685 --> 00:01:43,478 Guy's got tickets to Fiji waiting at home. 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,938 [laughter] 24 00:01:45,063 --> 00:01:46,564 - Costa Rica. 25 00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:48,608 - Someplace with those little umbrellas in your drink. 26 00:01:48,692 --> 00:01:50,318 [laughter] 27 00:01:50,402 --> 00:01:54,989 For keeping our skies safe for 37 years. 28 00:01:55,031 --> 00:01:58,159 [cheering] 29 00:01:58,243 --> 00:02:00,328 And just being a mensch. 30 00:02:00,412 --> 00:02:02,163 [crowd murmuring agreement] 31 00:02:02,205 --> 00:02:03,456 To Mark. 32 00:02:03,581 --> 00:02:06,292 all: To Mark. 33 00:02:06,334 --> 00:02:08,795 - Don't leave me with these people. 34 00:02:08,878 --> 00:02:09,963 [laughter] 35 00:02:10,046 --> 00:02:12,173 We're gonna miss you, buddy. 36 00:02:12,257 --> 00:02:14,217 - Miss you too, Brook. 37 00:02:14,342 --> 00:02:17,721 - Any advice for the young bucks? 38 00:02:17,762 --> 00:02:19,556 - Enjoy the ride. 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,517 There's no shortcuts to any place worth going. 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,351 Cheers, my friends. 41 00:02:23,518 --> 00:02:25,520 all: Cheers. 42 00:02:25,562 --> 00:02:29,024 - ♪ That's when when you realize ♪ 43 00:02:29,065 --> 00:02:33,611 ♪ That's when you open your eyes and say ♪ 44 00:02:33,737 --> 00:02:36,781 ♪ Doesn't get better than this ♪ 45 00:02:36,865 --> 00:02:39,325 ♪ Ooh, yeah ♪ 46 00:02:39,451 --> 00:02:42,662 ♪ Doesn't get better, doesn't get better ♪ 47 00:02:42,746 --> 00:02:43,788 ♪ Doesn't get better ♪ 48 00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:44,748 [gunshots] - [grunts] 49 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:45,957 ♪ ♪ 50 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:47,208 - ♪ Ooh, yeah ♪ 51 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:49,044 [clattering] 52 00:02:49,127 --> 00:02:51,880 ♪ Doesn't get better, doesn't get better ♪ 53 00:02:51,921 --> 00:02:54,674 ♪ Doesn't get better than this ♪ 54 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:55,967 - Hey. 55 00:02:56,051 --> 00:02:57,177 Hey, are you okay? 56 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,970 - [groans] 57 00:02:59,054 --> 00:03:02,307 [mumbles] 58 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:04,434 - 911, what's your emergency? 59 00:03:04,559 --> 00:03:06,519 - We need an ambulance, please. 60 00:03:06,644 --> 00:03:08,313 [siren chirps] 61 00:03:08,396 --> 00:03:11,274 [tense music] 62 00:03:11,399 --> 00:03:15,070 ♪ ♪ 63 00:03:15,236 --> 00:03:16,863 - What do we got? 64 00:03:16,946 --> 00:03:18,990 - Two gunshots to the back. 65 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:20,950 Small-cal casings. 66 00:03:20,992 --> 00:03:21,951 No witnesses yet. 67 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:24,496 Still canvassing. 68 00:03:24,621 --> 00:03:25,872 - Let's make sure we pull that footage. 69 00:03:25,997 --> 00:03:27,374 - You got it. 70 00:03:27,457 --> 00:03:28,708 - Hey, partner. - Hey. 71 00:03:28,833 --> 00:03:29,834 - We ID our vic? 72 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:32,003 - Mm-hmm. Mark Turner. 73 00:03:32,087 --> 00:03:35,757 Got this from the Federal Aviation Administration, 2023. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,009 35 years of service. 75 00:03:38,093 --> 00:03:39,844 - Who called 911? 76 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:40,762 - I didn't see it. 77 00:03:40,929 --> 00:03:42,055 I didn't hear it. 78 00:03:42,138 --> 00:03:43,682 I thought he just crashed. 79 00:03:43,765 --> 00:03:45,642 I didn't know he got shot. - Okay. All right. 80 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:48,645 Did you see anything else, anyone leaving the scene? 81 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:50,021 - No. 82 00:03:50,146 --> 00:03:51,189 - Did he manage to say anything to you 83 00:03:51,272 --> 00:03:52,315 before he died? 84 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:53,817 - Yeah. 85 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,652 He told me I should wear a helmet. 86 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:59,989 ♪ ♪ 87 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:02,867 [dramatic music] 88 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:09,958 ♪ ♪ 89 00:04:52,584 --> 00:04:53,835 - He's really gone? 90 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:56,713 - I'm afraid so. 91 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,214 - We can only imagine how much of a shock 92 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,300 this must be for you, 93 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:02,635 but now we gotta figure out who did this, okay? 94 00:05:02,677 --> 00:05:03,762 - Can you tell us, was your husband 95 00:05:03,803 --> 00:05:06,431 having any problems recently? 96 00:05:06,514 --> 00:05:08,350 Maybe any issues at work? 97 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,227 - No, it was quite the opposite. 98 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:13,855 He just retired. 99 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:15,774 Today was his last day. 100 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:18,485 We're--we're supposed to go to Costa Rica in the morning. 101 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:21,404 We were. 102 00:05:21,488 --> 00:05:23,698 - What about money, Ms. Turner? 103 00:05:23,823 --> 00:05:27,243 Any debt, liens, or problems? 104 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:28,328 - No, no. 105 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:30,830 He--he didn't believe in it. 106 00:05:30,872 --> 00:05:34,709 Cut your coat according to your cloth. 107 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:36,252 If I had a dime for the number of times 108 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:38,129 he preached that to the kids, I'd be rich. 109 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:39,714 [somber music] 110 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:44,260 Oh, my God, the kids. 111 00:05:44,386 --> 00:05:45,637 They don't even know yet. 112 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,263 I--I have to call them. 113 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,057 - We just have one more question, I promise. 114 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:51,768 Can you tell us why your husband was 115 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:53,770 on the Hudson bike path tonight? 116 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:57,315 - He biked to and from the office every single day. 117 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,360 He said it was the safest way to travel in the city. 118 00:06:03,446 --> 00:06:04,656 - Thank you. 119 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:10,245 ♪ ♪ 120 00:06:10,286 --> 00:06:11,913 - Is that the footage from the scene? 121 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:14,290 - Yeah. Check it out. 122 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:18,169 Turner takes two in the back, and then the perp takes off. 123 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:19,462 We lose him after that. 124 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:21,172 Facial rec's no good. 125 00:06:21,256 --> 00:06:23,216 Perp's helmet and face coverings saw to that. 126 00:06:23,299 --> 00:06:25,135 He knew what he was doing. 127 00:06:25,176 --> 00:06:26,636 So much so, I can't even tell for sure if he's a he. 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,887 - Yeah. 129 00:06:27,971 --> 00:06:29,305 - The shooter's bike is a Merrimac Pro. 130 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:31,182 Second best-selling bike in New York. 131 00:06:31,307 --> 00:06:33,476 - All right, well, not a lot of help there. 132 00:06:33,518 --> 00:06:34,978 - This might be. 133 00:06:35,061 --> 00:06:37,272 TARU got into Mark Turner's cloud. 134 00:06:37,355 --> 00:06:39,482 27 unanswered texts 135 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:41,651 from a Bodie Walsh day of the murder. 136 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:43,611 - 27 seems excessive. 137 00:06:43,737 --> 00:06:44,779 - Wait till you read 'em. 138 00:06:44,904 --> 00:06:47,282 - "How can you do this to me? 139 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:48,908 There will be consequences." 140 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:50,035 - Right. Bodie Walsh is the head 141 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:51,786 of an aviation consultant firm, 142 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,497 SkyGuard Solutions, formed a month ago. 143 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:56,666 His home in Astoria is the corporate headquarters. 144 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:59,586 One employee, the late Mark Turner. 145 00:06:59,669 --> 00:07:01,546 - This last text from Bodie, 146 00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:05,091 "Arman Sargsyan doesn't mess around." 147 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:05,967 If he says so. 148 00:07:06,134 --> 00:07:07,344 - No, he's right. 149 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:09,220 Sargsyan is a legit gangster. 150 00:07:09,304 --> 00:07:11,598 Loansharking, money laundering, drugs. 151 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:13,308 - How's a paper pusher like Mark Turner 152 00:07:13,391 --> 00:07:15,060 get involved with organized crime? 153 00:07:15,143 --> 00:07:17,479 - Why don't you pay Mr. Walsh a visit and find out? 154 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:22,275 [banging] 155 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,027 - Bodie Walsh. 156 00:07:24,069 --> 00:07:25,653 NYPD, open up. 157 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:27,155 - Not a great time. 158 00:07:27,238 --> 00:07:28,156 What's this about? 159 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:31,785 - Murder investigation. 160 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:34,120 [locks clicking] 161 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:38,416 - Bodie Walsh? 162 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:39,501 - That's me. - Jesus. 163 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:40,669 What happened to you? 164 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:42,003 - Can I help you? 165 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:43,421 - We need to talk about Mark Turner. 166 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:46,424 [tense music] 167 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:47,967 - Can we go someplace? 168 00:07:48,051 --> 00:07:49,594 It doesn't feel safe here. 169 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:53,515 - Yeah. Yeah, get your stuff. 170 00:08:04,859 --> 00:08:05,110 . 171 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:07,195 - Rough week? 172 00:08:09,447 --> 00:08:12,033 You wanna fill me in? 173 00:08:12,075 --> 00:08:14,786 Your face tells me you owe the Armenians money. 174 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:18,206 Was Mark Turner in the hole too? 175 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:19,499 Is that why he's dead? 176 00:08:19,582 --> 00:08:20,542 - God, no. 177 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:21,793 Mark was a saint. 178 00:08:21,835 --> 00:08:23,211 - Yeah, see, that's the point. 179 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,255 As far as we can tell, you're not. 180 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:26,715 You're in a bunch of debt. 181 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:28,717 You owe money to some violent people. 182 00:08:28,758 --> 00:08:30,135 You threatened Mark with consequences, 183 00:08:30,218 --> 00:08:31,261 and now he's dead. 184 00:08:31,302 --> 00:08:32,554 I'm a murder cop, 185 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:34,764 so you can see where I'm going with this. 186 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:36,474 - I was in trouble. 187 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:37,892 I needed Mark's help. 188 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,395 That's why I wrote those stupid messages. 189 00:08:40,437 --> 00:08:41,938 - Explain. 190 00:08:42,063 --> 00:08:46,526 - A lot of stuff I invested in went belly up, 191 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:49,195 and I doubled down and borrowed money from the Armenians. 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,196 And I don't have it. 193 00:08:50,321 --> 00:08:51,531 - No kidding. 194 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:54,743 Why Mark Turner? 195 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:56,119 - We grew up together. 196 00:08:56,244 --> 00:08:58,246 He went one way, I went the other, 197 00:08:58,329 --> 00:08:59,748 but we were gonna start a new business. 198 00:08:59,831 --> 00:09:02,042 - Yeah, an aviation consulting firm. 199 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:04,419 - It was gonna work, too, I swear. 200 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:07,589 See, guys like Mark, government guys, 201 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:10,383 a lot of them go into consulting when they retire. 202 00:09:10,425 --> 00:09:13,178 - Well, it sounds ideal. What went wrong? 203 00:09:13,261 --> 00:09:15,889 - I booked our first job, and Mark wouldn't play ball. 204 00:09:15,972 --> 00:09:17,140 - Why not? 205 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:18,266 - Job was with an insurance company. 206 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:19,851 It was a skydiving accident. 207 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,353 They didn't wanna pay up. 208 00:09:21,436 --> 00:09:22,645 Mark found out the person 209 00:09:22,771 --> 00:09:24,481 who packed the parachute was uncertified. 210 00:09:24,606 --> 00:09:26,858 He didn't wanna let the company off the hook, 211 00:09:26,941 --> 00:09:28,735 which was literally what they were paying us to do. 212 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:29,694 - Yeah. And you needed the money. 213 00:09:29,861 --> 00:09:31,738 People have killed for less, Bodie. 214 00:09:31,863 --> 00:09:33,948 - I didn't. I swear. 215 00:09:34,032 --> 00:09:35,992 Mark was too good for this world. 216 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:38,286 He was such a goody two-shoes about safety. 217 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:40,163 People were always getting pissed at him. 218 00:09:40,330 --> 00:09:41,664 He even got death threats. 219 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,124 - When? 220 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:45,919 - Like, the last few weeks. 221 00:09:46,044 --> 00:09:47,545 - From who? 222 00:09:47,587 --> 00:09:49,464 - A guy named Eric Savage. 223 00:09:49,547 --> 00:09:50,632 - The boxer? 224 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,427 [knocks] 225 00:09:54,552 --> 00:09:55,887 - Bodie's alibi checks out. 226 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:57,389 - Okay. 227 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:58,682 - He was right about those threats too. 228 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:01,142 The warrant just dropped for Turner's FAA cell. 229 00:10:01,184 --> 00:10:03,353 Eric Savage left this voicemail last week. 230 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:04,813 We checked the phone records and everything. 231 00:10:04,896 --> 00:10:06,231 This is really him. 232 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:09,192 - Turner, you're a dead man. You hear me? 233 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:12,195 - What the hell is mild-mannered Mark Turner doing 234 00:10:12,237 --> 00:10:14,864 tangled up with a middleweight boxing champion? 235 00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:16,950 I mean, the dude's like Forrest Gump. 236 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:19,577 - Are you familiar with the Nomad Rocket? 237 00:10:19,703 --> 00:10:20,870 - Space tourism for the rich and famous? 238 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,080 - Yeah. 239 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:23,957 The FAA regulates commercial space flight. 240 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:26,126 Ten days ago, Mark Turner called off 241 00:10:26,209 --> 00:10:27,669 a launch at the last second. 242 00:10:27,794 --> 00:10:29,212 It caused quite a stir. 243 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,089 - Our boy Eric Savage was on that flight. 244 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,215 Or he was supposed to be. 245 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:33,800 He left that voicemail two days after 246 00:10:33,883 --> 00:10:35,385 Turner canceled the launch. 247 00:10:35,468 --> 00:10:37,178 - And it turns out Eric Savage had 248 00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:39,514 a different career before boxing-- 249 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,726 aggravated assault, armed robbery. 250 00:10:42,851 --> 00:10:45,145 - See what he has to say for himself. 251 00:10:51,568 --> 00:10:53,111 - [grunts] 252 00:10:53,194 --> 00:10:54,738 - I'm gonna let you take point on this one. 253 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:55,905 - Eric Savage. 254 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:57,282 'Sup? 255 00:10:57,365 --> 00:10:58,616 - Afternoon, guys. 256 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:00,076 - NYPD. 257 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,327 - [sighs] 258 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:03,496 What can I do for New York's finest? 259 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:06,666 - Well, we have video of you 260 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:09,586 walking into the lobby of Mark Turner's office yesterday. 261 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:10,587 - And? 262 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:11,796 - And two hours later, 263 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,590 somebody shot him dead. 264 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:14,883 Not a good look, man. 265 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,426 - I don't even own a gun. 266 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,303 If I'm killing somebody, I'm using my hands. 267 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,305 - Not exactly doing yourself any favors there, Eric. 268 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:23,099 - We heard Turner crushed your dreams of going to space. 269 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:24,309 And that pissed you off, right? 270 00:11:24,392 --> 00:11:25,727 - Yeah. 271 00:11:25,769 --> 00:11:27,812 Why should Katy Perry have all the fun? 272 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:29,814 - You know, I ask myself that same question all the time. 273 00:11:29,898 --> 00:11:31,900 - That flight would have got me triple 274 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:33,526 the amount of Instagram followers, 275 00:11:33,568 --> 00:11:35,737 and it cost me a huge endorsement deal. 276 00:11:35,779 --> 00:11:37,739 - So you threatened Mark Turner's life 277 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:38,990 and then went down to his office 278 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:40,283 to make good on those threats. 279 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:41,618 - I went to apologize. 280 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:42,952 - Really? 281 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:44,746 - Really. 282 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:48,166 Look, man, Turner was right. 283 00:11:48,249 --> 00:11:49,834 I did my research. 284 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:51,044 If we went up in the air, 285 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,296 my insides could have been vaporized. 286 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,006 - All right, let's say we actually buy this story. 287 00:11:55,048 --> 00:11:56,383 How did Turner respond? 288 00:11:56,466 --> 00:11:58,176 - He didn't. 289 00:11:58,218 --> 00:12:00,261 Security guard in the lobby wouldn't even let me near him. 290 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:02,430 Said there had been an incident. 291 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:04,182 No outside visitors allowed. 292 00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:07,519 - All right, we'll look into that. 293 00:12:11,231 --> 00:12:13,525 Do you remember this incident that Eric Savage mentioned? 294 00:12:13,608 --> 00:12:15,110 - Hard to forget. 295 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:17,070 This crazy lady blew up at a meeting upstairs. 296 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:19,197 I had to pretty much drag her out kicking and screaming. 297 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:20,699 - Who was she? You got a name? 298 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:22,117 - No idea. 299 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:23,952 I was just told by brass to escort her out. 300 00:12:24,035 --> 00:12:25,328 - And when was this? 301 00:12:25,412 --> 00:12:27,080 - Last Tuesday, right before my shift ended, 302 00:12:27,205 --> 00:12:28,206 so about 5:00. 303 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:29,833 - All right. Thank you. 304 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:31,126 - Thank you. 305 00:12:31,209 --> 00:12:33,086 So according to Turner's calendar, 306 00:12:33,211 --> 00:12:36,131 that meeting was regarding Titan Helicopter Corporation. 307 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,674 - Titan. 308 00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:39,551 That helicopter crash out in Bayport last summer. 309 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,469 - Yeah, five people died. 310 00:12:41,553 --> 00:12:43,805 The pilot, a family of four, 311 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:46,266 two kids, both under ten. 312 00:12:46,349 --> 00:12:48,601 That helicopter was a Titan. 313 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:48,893 That helicopter was a Titan. 314 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:52,355 - The day that bird went down was the worst day of my life. 315 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:54,399 That poor family. 316 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:57,027 - And what was this meeting about at the FAA? 317 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:58,862 - Oh, standard practice. 318 00:12:58,903 --> 00:13:00,989 When the FAA completes an investigation into an accident, 319 00:13:01,072 --> 00:13:02,866 they offer relevant parties 320 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:05,118 a preview of their official determination. 321 00:13:06,244 --> 00:13:07,787 - Which was? 322 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:09,456 - Pilot error. 323 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:10,665 - Who was at this meeting? 324 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,167 - Mark Turner and a couple others 325 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:15,045 from the FAA, a few of us from Titan, 326 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:17,547 relatives of the deceased, and Kate Leavy, 327 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:19,215 wife of Brian Leavy, the pilot 328 00:13:19,341 --> 00:13:20,967 who was flying the day of the accident. 329 00:13:21,092 --> 00:13:23,345 - What, she was the one who freaked out at the meeting? 330 00:13:23,428 --> 00:13:24,929 - Big time. 331 00:13:25,055 --> 00:13:27,390 Mark Turner headed up that FAA investigation, 332 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,351 which tells you it was done right. 333 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:31,061 - And Kate Leavy? 334 00:13:31,102 --> 00:13:34,189 - Refused to accept that pilot error caused the crash. 335 00:13:34,272 --> 00:13:35,774 It was ugly. 336 00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:37,525 She called Mark Turner a liar, 337 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:40,528 said that her husband was ex-Marine, 338 00:13:40,612 --> 00:13:42,405 that they don't make errors. 339 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:43,907 They had to haul her out of there, 340 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:45,658 and she was screaming into Turner's face, 341 00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:47,869 "This isn't over." 342 00:13:48,036 --> 00:13:49,746 [tense music] 343 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,706 - Yeah, I'm not exactly sure I buy 344 00:13:51,790 --> 00:13:53,750 Kate Leavy's a cold-blooded killer. 345 00:13:53,792 --> 00:13:55,460 She's got no priors. 346 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:57,337 She teaches Sunday school at Saint Catherine's. 347 00:13:57,504 --> 00:13:59,923 She posts on Instagram about her hyacinths. 348 00:14:00,048 --> 00:14:03,176 - Hey, turns out Kate Leavy's husband, the helicopter pilot, 349 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:04,969 owned a licensed Sig Sauer. 350 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:09,057 There he is, Brian Leavy. 351 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:10,558 And there's his firearm license. 352 00:14:10,642 --> 00:14:11,935 And according to forensics, 353 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:14,104 the slugs removed from Mark Turner's body had 354 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:16,064 distinctive pin markings indicating they were 355 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:18,525 fired from a Sig Sauer. 356 00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:19,818 - It's not enough for an arrest. 357 00:14:19,901 --> 00:14:21,778 - It's enough for a chat. 358 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:23,488 - Okay. 359 00:14:25,657 --> 00:14:27,075 [banging] 360 00:14:27,158 --> 00:14:28,827 - Kate Leavy, police. 361 00:14:30,912 --> 00:14:32,247 - NYPD. 362 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:33,415 Open up. 363 00:14:36,543 --> 00:14:37,544 - NYPD. 364 00:14:37,669 --> 00:14:39,170 - Oh, God. 365 00:14:39,254 --> 00:14:40,463 I don't know what to do. 366 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:42,590 - Yeah? 367 00:14:42,674 --> 00:14:44,426 - Yeah, somebody's definitely home. 368 00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:47,929 [suspenseful music] 369 00:14:47,971 --> 00:14:50,473 [knocking] 370 00:14:50,598 --> 00:14:57,564 ♪ ♪ 371 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:10,785 - Hey. [whistles softly] 372 00:15:10,827 --> 00:15:12,370 Gun. Go. 373 00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:20,128 - Kate Leavy, NYPD. 374 00:15:23,381 --> 00:15:24,758 Kate Leavy. 375 00:15:29,888 --> 00:15:31,556 Hey. 376 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,141 Drop that weapon, Kate. 377 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:36,561 Drop that weapon. 378 00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:46,196 It's okay. 379 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:49,491 Kate, take your hand off that gun. 380 00:15:52,369 --> 00:15:54,537 All right? 381 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,289 Come on. 382 00:15:57,791 --> 00:15:58,958 Come on. 383 00:15:59,084 --> 00:16:00,669 I need you to take your hand off the gun. 384 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:03,505 - Kate, stop right there. 385 00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:04,714 Okay? Hey. 386 00:16:04,756 --> 00:16:06,341 - It's okay. 387 00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:07,592 - Stay right where you are. 388 00:16:07,676 --> 00:16:08,760 - Slowly. 389 00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:09,886 - Keep your hands at your side. 390 00:16:10,011 --> 00:16:11,471 Keep your hands at your side, Kate. 391 00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:13,807 Stay right there. - It's okay. 392 00:16:13,848 --> 00:16:16,518 - It's all right. Look at me. Face me. 393 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:18,520 I'm gonna step to you. Okay? 394 00:16:18,603 --> 00:16:19,771 Here we go. 395 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,316 - I got it. I got it. 396 00:16:23,358 --> 00:16:24,859 - [shouts] - Okay. You're okay. 397 00:16:24,943 --> 00:16:26,945 Turn around. 398 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:28,238 - Please, please, please. 399 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:29,614 Please, please! 400 00:16:29,698 --> 00:16:31,074 - Easy. 401 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,326 - Kate? 402 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:34,452 What's happening? 403 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:35,829 Is everything okay? 404 00:16:35,954 --> 00:16:37,414 - Who else is in this house? 405 00:16:37,539 --> 00:16:38,957 - No one. 406 00:16:39,082 --> 00:16:40,792 - Don't lie to me. How many people are in here? 407 00:16:40,917 --> 00:16:42,669 - Talk to me, Kate. Say something. 408 00:16:42,794 --> 00:16:43,795 Anything. 409 00:16:43,878 --> 00:16:45,130 You're really scaring me now. 410 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:46,506 - Sir, I'm coming toward you. 411 00:16:46,631 --> 00:16:47,632 I have a weapon. 412 00:16:47,716 --> 00:16:49,801 Are you armed? - What? No. 413 00:16:49,884 --> 00:16:50,969 Kate, what is happening? 414 00:16:51,052 --> 00:16:51,970 Are you okay? 415 00:16:52,012 --> 00:16:53,680 Please tell me you're okay. 416 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:54,973 - It's the police. 417 00:16:55,056 --> 00:16:56,182 I'm okay. 418 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:57,142 - The police? Oh, my God. 419 00:16:57,225 --> 00:16:58,351 Please don't hurt her. 420 00:16:58,435 --> 00:16:59,602 - Sir, I'm stepping inside. 421 00:16:59,686 --> 00:17:01,646 My weapon is drawn, and I will shoot you. 422 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:03,148 Raise your hands and keep them where I can see them. 423 00:17:03,231 --> 00:17:04,649 Do you understand? 424 00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:09,320 ♪ ♪ 425 00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:12,824 - Please be gentle with her. 426 00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:13,783 - Who the hell are you? 427 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:14,993 - I'm Brian. 428 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:17,996 Brian Leavy, Kate's husband. 429 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:22,625 - But you died in a helicopter crash two months ago. 430 00:17:22,751 --> 00:17:27,213 ♪ ♪ 431 00:17:32,594 --> 00:17:32,761 . 432 00:17:32,844 --> 00:17:34,429 - I haven't seen you in those earrings in a while. 433 00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:37,349 - Oh, yeah. 434 00:17:37,474 --> 00:17:39,017 Remember when you got them for me 435 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:40,685 at that place up in Ithaca? 436 00:17:40,810 --> 00:17:43,146 - Oh, my God, remember that place? 437 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:44,439 - [laughs] Oh. 438 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:45,940 - That guy who rented it to us? 439 00:17:46,024 --> 00:17:48,360 - Kate Leavy is not talking. 440 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,780 The only hard evidence we have is the murder weapon, maybe. 441 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:53,907 And forensics won't be back for 48 hours. 442 00:17:54,032 --> 00:17:56,159 We can only hold her for 42. 443 00:17:56,201 --> 00:17:57,535 What have we got? 444 00:17:57,660 --> 00:17:58,995 - We just got the warrant for her devices, 445 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:01,790 but it turns out Theo didn't see a ghost there. 446 00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,751 Say hello to the late Brian Leavy. 447 00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:05,877 - This place has rustic charm. 448 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,295 - And here I was thinking 449 00:18:07,337 --> 00:18:09,339 death was a fairly permanent condition. 450 00:18:09,381 --> 00:18:10,674 - Used to be, right? 451 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,467 This Brian Leavy is known as a grief bot. 452 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:14,344 He's a hyper-realistic, AI-powered 453 00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:16,012 simulation of a dead guy. 454 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:18,390 - After he died, Kate Leavy got a subscription to a thing 455 00:18:18,515 --> 00:18:21,309 called Memory Branch-- $49.99 a month. 456 00:18:21,393 --> 00:18:23,061 - She talks to her husband all the time. 457 00:18:23,186 --> 00:18:24,562 There's, like, 500 hours of recorded conversations 458 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:25,939 between these two. 459 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:27,857 They talk about what they want for dinner. 460 00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,234 They talk about movies they've seen. 461 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,944 - That sounds terrible. 462 00:18:31,027 --> 00:18:33,446 - I mean, kinda, but I don't know. 463 00:18:33,488 --> 00:18:34,989 Part of me also gets it, you know? 464 00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:36,199 My brother's in a coma. 465 00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:37,742 If I could talk to an avatar of him 466 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,120 about, you know, the Yankees or something, 467 00:18:40,161 --> 00:18:41,663 I don't know, maybe that would help. 468 00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:44,916 - How are we supposed to get through 469 00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:47,252 500 hours of this in the next 42 hours? 470 00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:48,712 - We might not need to. 471 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:51,506 I've been working my way backwards from the murder. 472 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:52,966 - Kate, these people are trying 473 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:54,426 to destroy my reputation. 474 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:56,094 I did nothing wrong. 475 00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:58,680 That helicopter was doomed. 476 00:18:58,722 --> 00:19:02,183 If it weren't for them, I'd still be alive. 477 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:05,812 I can't fight back, 478 00:19:05,937 --> 00:19:08,314 but you can. 479 00:19:08,398 --> 00:19:12,861 - What does this thing know, 480 00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:14,529 like, about the real world? 481 00:19:14,571 --> 00:19:16,072 I mean, is there any truth to any of this? 482 00:19:16,114 --> 00:19:17,240 - We don't know yet. 483 00:19:17,282 --> 00:19:18,742 - Run it down. 484 00:19:18,783 --> 00:19:20,535 I mean, if dead Brian Leavy's telling the truth, 485 00:19:20,577 --> 00:19:23,705 then we're talking about motive--revenge. 486 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:27,625 [suspenseful music] 487 00:19:27,751 --> 00:19:31,796 - Look, I want answers here as much as you do. 488 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:34,132 Everybody here thought the world of Mark Turner. 489 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:36,301 - That's not the question, is it? 490 00:19:36,426 --> 00:19:37,844 - We found those in a trove of documents 491 00:19:37,927 --> 00:19:40,096 that Titan handed over when the FAA investigated 492 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:41,848 the crash on Long Island. 493 00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:43,892 It says the tail rotor that was used on the helicopter 494 00:19:43,975 --> 00:19:46,019 had been dinged in a previous inspection. 495 00:19:46,102 --> 00:19:47,604 - Was that tail rotor still on the helicopter when it crashed? 496 00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,064 - No. 497 00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:51,066 - Is there some kind of cover-up going on here? 498 00:19:51,149 --> 00:19:52,359 Was Mark Turner crooked? 499 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,194 Would somebody pay him off to pin this all 500 00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:55,153 on Brian Leavy, a dead guy? 501 00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:57,530 - No. For God's sake, no. 502 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,450 It's true. 503 00:20:00,575 --> 00:20:02,202 The helicopter that crashed once used a rotor 504 00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:03,870 that had some bearing wear. - Uh-huh. 505 00:20:03,912 --> 00:20:05,789 - Basically, the rotor and drive shaft 506 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:08,458 were misaligned, but that's not why it crashed. 507 00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:11,002 ♪ ♪ 508 00:20:11,086 --> 00:20:12,420 - What is this? 509 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,673 - Titan swapped out that wonky rotor for a new one 510 00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:16,841 a month before the crash. 511 00:20:16,925 --> 00:20:18,843 We've got video of them doing the work in their hangar. 512 00:20:18,927 --> 00:20:20,470 You're welcome to see it. 513 00:20:20,637 --> 00:20:24,849 It brings me no joy to tell you this was textbook pilot error. 514 00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:29,521 ♪ ♪ 515 00:20:29,604 --> 00:20:32,273 - We're testing the gun that we seized at your home 516 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:36,611 to confirm it's the gun that was used to kill Mark Turner. 517 00:20:36,695 --> 00:20:40,115 But we already know the answer, don't we? 518 00:20:46,454 --> 00:20:49,666 A friend of mine was killed a couple of months ago. 519 00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:51,084 He was a cop. 520 00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:54,295 - I'm sorry. 521 00:20:54,337 --> 00:20:57,132 - I didn't know Walker knew that guy. 522 00:20:57,173 --> 00:20:58,675 - No. 523 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,510 No, he doesn't. He's making this up. 524 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,554 This is what he does. He's a storyteller. 525 00:21:02,637 --> 00:21:05,265 - I'm still fighting through it. 526 00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:06,933 You know the part I can't shake? 527 00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:09,436 It's not being sad. 528 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,604 I can handle that. 529 00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:14,399 I'm angry, Kate, 530 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:18,987 angry at my dead friend and myself and God. 531 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:20,989 And I think you're angry too. 532 00:21:23,408 --> 00:21:25,869 - It hurts. 533 00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:26,828 It's not fair. 534 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:28,621 - It's not. 535 00:21:28,663 --> 00:21:31,041 I read this thing the other day 536 00:21:31,166 --> 00:21:33,877 that said grief is just another form of love, 537 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,213 love that's got no place to go. 538 00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:40,175 And there was a lot of love, right? 539 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,635 Your husband was a great man. 540 00:21:42,719 --> 00:21:46,014 But the reality is, he made a mistake. 541 00:21:46,056 --> 00:21:47,015 - No. 542 00:21:47,057 --> 00:21:48,933 - Yes. 543 00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:51,811 I know he told you there was a bad part on the helicopter. 544 00:21:51,895 --> 00:21:54,898 We've seen the recordings of your conversation. 545 00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:59,152 But your husband is only privy to what's on the internet, 546 00:21:59,194 --> 00:22:01,363 because he's a computer program, Kate. 547 00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:09,871 - Yes. 548 00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,374 This is what Brian showed me, the rotor. 549 00:22:12,457 --> 00:22:13,792 - He found it online because it's part of 550 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:16,961 the public records connected to the FAA investigation. 551 00:22:19,297 --> 00:22:23,009 But he didn't know about this... 552 00:22:25,929 --> 00:22:28,056 Because the FAA's internal work documents 553 00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:30,850 are not part of the public record yet. 554 00:22:30,934 --> 00:22:32,143 That rotor got changed out. 555 00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:33,895 There was nothing wrong with that helicopter. 556 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,773 [soft somber music] 557 00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:39,275 ♪ ♪ 558 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,903 You will know the truth, 559 00:22:41,986 --> 00:22:44,030 and the truth will set you free. 560 00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:46,950 - John 8:32. 561 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:49,327 - That's right. 562 00:22:49,411 --> 00:22:50,912 - Pray with me? 563 00:22:53,832 --> 00:22:55,333 - We don't really do that kind of thing in here. 564 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:58,003 - Please. 565 00:22:58,128 --> 00:23:02,465 I can see that you want to pray with me. 566 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:09,597 ♪ ♪ 567 00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:18,314 Heavenly father, bless this man, your servant, 568 00:23:18,356 --> 00:23:20,442 who seeks the truth. 569 00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:26,114 And forgive me for what I've done. 570 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:29,617 - Okay. 571 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:34,789 - I practiced for a few days riding my bike with one hand 572 00:23:34,873 --> 00:23:37,667 so I'd be ready to shoot my gun with the other. 573 00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:39,169 - And on the day it happened, 574 00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,504 did you follow Mark Turner from his office? 575 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:42,922 - No. 576 00:23:43,048 --> 00:23:45,342 I memorized his schedule. 577 00:23:45,383 --> 00:23:49,137 I knew when he left work, how he rode home each day, 578 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:51,014 so I knew where he'd be. 579 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:56,186 I waited, and there he was. 580 00:23:56,227 --> 00:23:58,271 It was so fast. 581 00:23:58,396 --> 00:24:01,775 I rode up behind him and shot him in the back. 582 00:24:01,816 --> 00:24:04,652 - It's textbook premeditated murder. 583 00:24:04,736 --> 00:24:07,155 - Sometimes they come with a bow on top. 584 00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:08,239 [knocking] 585 00:24:08,406 --> 00:24:10,742 - Sig Sauer handgun we recovered 586 00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:13,536 from Kate Leavy's home is not the murder weapon. 587 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:14,496 - That's weird. 588 00:24:14,579 --> 00:24:15,789 - Maybe not. 589 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:17,082 About a week before the murder, 590 00:24:17,207 --> 00:24:20,877 she went online and got herself a barrel kit. 591 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,629 - She swapped out the barrel of the Sig Sauer 592 00:24:22,712 --> 00:24:24,381 so when forensics tested the gun-- 593 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,591 - The marks on the test slugs were different 594 00:24:26,675 --> 00:24:28,885 from the slugs we pulled from Mark Turner's body. 595 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:30,637 - We'd certainly be in a stronger position 596 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,180 if we had the murder weapon, 597 00:24:32,222 --> 00:24:33,598 but this is pretty compelling evidence that 598 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,184 she tried to cover her tracks. 599 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:37,811 - We'll still need to get ahead of this. 600 00:24:37,852 --> 00:24:39,604 The defense will make a meal of it. 601 00:24:39,729 --> 00:24:41,856 But in the meantime, Kate Leavy confessed 602 00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:44,192 she shot Mark Turner with a gun. 603 00:24:44,275 --> 00:24:45,485 A confession's a confession. 604 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:51,282 - Your Honor, Detective Walker's decision 605 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:53,576 to join hands and pray with Kate Leavy 606 00:24:53,702 --> 00:24:55,412 while she was in police custody 607 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,580 is clearly grounds to quash this confession. 608 00:24:57,706 --> 00:24:59,082 - That is not true, Your Honor. 609 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:00,959 I mean, that prayer may have been unusual, 610 00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:02,544 but it's not illegal. 611 00:25:02,585 --> 00:25:04,629 - And it was Kate Leavy who asked to pray 612 00:25:04,754 --> 00:25:06,631 with Detective Walker, not the other way around. 613 00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:08,425 - But that doesn't matter, Your Honor. 614 00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:10,927 This goes back to Miranda case law itself. 615 00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:13,513 Confessions must be voluntary. 616 00:25:13,555 --> 00:25:16,057 - And it was, and there was no threat, 617 00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:17,976 no--no promise, no inducement. 618 00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:21,730 - Which is immaterial as well, because prayer all on its own 619 00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:23,940 has been seen by the courts routinely 620 00:25:23,982 --> 00:25:26,693 as a form of psychological coercion by the police. 621 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:29,863 Coercion renders a confession involuntary 622 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:32,115 and therefore inadmissible. 623 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,575 - Your Honor-- - Save your breath, Mr. Price. 624 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:34,659 I agree with Ms. Hogan. 625 00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:35,952 The confession is out. 626 00:25:35,994 --> 00:25:38,413 [tense music] 627 00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:44,085 . 628 00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:45,211 - We're still good on motive. 629 00:25:46,171 --> 00:25:47,797 I've watched hours of Kate Leavy's 630 00:25:47,881 --> 00:25:49,883 conversations with her "husband." 631 00:25:50,008 --> 00:25:52,344 I mean, if I'm being honest, I can't stop watching them. 632 00:25:52,427 --> 00:25:53,553 - It's unsettling. 633 00:25:53,636 --> 00:25:55,597 - It's creepy is what it is. 634 00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:57,807 She was consumed by her husband's death, 635 00:25:57,849 --> 00:25:59,976 craved retribution. 636 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:01,686 The more technology tries to help, 637 00:26:01,728 --> 00:26:03,021 the worse things seem to get. 638 00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:05,315 - Everything has a shortcut these days. 639 00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:06,274 Overweight? 640 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:07,484 Try Ozempic. 641 00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,277 Lonely? Swipe right. 642 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:10,820 - Can't handle the death of a loved one? 643 00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:12,530 Create a grief bot. 644 00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:14,199 Grief is supposed to be hard. 645 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,992 Pretty sure that's the point. 646 00:26:16,076 --> 00:26:18,119 - If you can believe it, I've got a voicemail 647 00:26:18,203 --> 00:26:19,829 from my father that he left 648 00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:21,706 a couple of days before he died, 649 00:26:21,831 --> 00:26:24,125 which, for all I know, he was trying to get me 650 00:26:24,167 --> 00:26:27,003 to smuggle scotch into the hospital, but... 651 00:26:27,045 --> 00:26:28,713 I can't even listen. 652 00:26:28,797 --> 00:26:31,841 - Grief is obviously a universal experience, 653 00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:33,510 which means everyone on that jury 654 00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,387 has experienced it in some capacity. 655 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:40,183 So lean into the anger and confusion of that journey. 656 00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:42,310 That's what drove Kate Leavy to kill. 657 00:26:46,356 --> 00:26:48,316 - Ms. Leavy's cell phone pinged off a tower 658 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:51,111 on West 61st Street at 6:12 p.m., 659 00:26:51,236 --> 00:26:53,947 putting her roughly within 150 yards of the murder. 660 00:26:54,072 --> 00:26:57,158 - Can you explain these images, Detective Walker? 661 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,703 - On the left is an image from security footage, 662 00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:03,498 the killer on a 2023 Merrimac Pro bicycle. 663 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:06,126 On the right is that same make and model bicycle 664 00:27:06,251 --> 00:27:08,420 recovered from the basement of Ms. Leavy's home. 665 00:27:08,503 --> 00:27:11,089 - Lastly, Detective, when you went to Ms. Leavy's home 666 00:27:11,172 --> 00:27:14,467 to question her, how would you describe her demeanor? 667 00:27:14,551 --> 00:27:16,386 - Rattled. 668 00:27:16,428 --> 00:27:18,638 Panicked, maybe. 669 00:27:18,722 --> 00:27:21,057 When we arrived, we knocked. 670 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:22,851 We announced ourselves as police several times, 671 00:27:22,934 --> 00:27:24,811 but she refused to open up. 672 00:27:24,894 --> 00:27:27,564 We went inside because we were concerned for her safety. 673 00:27:27,647 --> 00:27:30,108 We could see her pacing frantically. 674 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:31,776 She had a firearm next to her. 675 00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:32,861 - Nothing further, Your Honor. 676 00:27:32,944 --> 00:27:34,904 - Ms. Hogan. 677 00:27:34,988 --> 00:27:37,282 - Detective, how many other phones 678 00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:39,451 pinged off of that cell phone tower 679 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,077 around the time of the murder? 680 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,413 - About 3,000. 681 00:27:43,538 --> 00:27:49,210 - So what you're saying is 2,999 other people 682 00:27:49,294 --> 00:27:50,879 could have committed this murder. 683 00:27:50,962 --> 00:27:52,464 - Respectfully, we're here because 684 00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:54,299 we believe the defendant committed this murder. 685 00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:56,426 - The gravest allegation one can face. 686 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:59,304 So, surely, you cleared those other people 687 00:27:59,429 --> 00:28:01,848 by interviewing them, obtaining alibis. 688 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,224 - We didn't think that was necessary. 689 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:05,393 - I'm sure you didn't. 690 00:28:05,477 --> 00:28:09,522 Now, based on this image, it's impossible to know 691 00:28:09,564 --> 00:28:11,983 if the killer was a man or a woman. 692 00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:13,151 [tense music] 693 00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:15,445 - Based on that image, maybe. 694 00:28:15,612 --> 00:28:16,821 But we have more evidence. 695 00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:18,573 - Have police ever banged on your door? 696 00:28:19,783 --> 00:28:20,867 - No. 697 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,160 - But if they did, 698 00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:24,412 it would make you frantic, correct? 699 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:26,915 Especially if you were innocent. 700 00:28:30,085 --> 00:28:31,336 One last thing. 701 00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:33,463 There were 6,000 Merrimac Pro bicycles 702 00:28:33,505 --> 00:28:35,340 sold in 2023. 703 00:28:35,382 --> 00:28:38,468 Surely, you interviewed these people who own these bikes. 704 00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:39,886 - That wasn't necessary. 705 00:28:40,053 --> 00:28:42,305 - You had your suspect, so damn the facts. 706 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:43,890 - Objection, Your Honor. 707 00:28:44,015 --> 00:28:45,558 - Sustained. 708 00:28:45,642 --> 00:28:46,685 - Nothing else, Your Honor. 709 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:53,024 - A gun barrel imparts marks on the projectile that fires, 710 00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:54,901 marks that we in the ballistics field call 711 00:28:54,984 --> 00:28:56,486 lands and grooves. 712 00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:58,780 They are specific to that firearm, 713 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:01,991 kind of like how fingerprints are specific to each of us. 714 00:29:02,075 --> 00:29:04,035 - And a firearm can be taken apart 715 00:29:04,077 --> 00:29:06,621 and put back together again, including the barrel, correct? 716 00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:08,206 - Yes. 717 00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:10,291 It's common among firearm enthusiasts. 718 00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:13,461 You can buy barrel kits to swap out that piece. 719 00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:16,548 - And then those markings, those lands and grooves? 720 00:29:16,589 --> 00:29:18,174 - Would be new, different. 721 00:29:18,216 --> 00:29:21,386 - Which would explain how a weapon could be used to kill, 722 00:29:21,428 --> 00:29:24,764 but a forensics investigation would conclude that it wasn't. 723 00:29:24,848 --> 00:29:26,057 - Correct. 724 00:29:26,141 --> 00:29:27,642 - Nothing further. 725 00:29:30,145 --> 00:29:32,814 - Kate Leavy was never found in possession of the gun barrel 726 00:29:32,939 --> 00:29:34,941 that was used in this murder. 727 00:29:35,025 --> 00:29:40,822 So this theory that Ms. Leavy, a literal Sunday school teacher 728 00:29:40,864 --> 00:29:43,033 without so much as a jaywalking ticket, 729 00:29:43,116 --> 00:29:46,286 is such a criminal mastermind that she swapped out 730 00:29:46,411 --> 00:29:49,414 these gun barrels to cover her tracks is just that-- 731 00:29:49,497 --> 00:29:50,623 a theory, correct? 732 00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:51,666 - Objection. 733 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:52,625 Counsel is testifying. 734 00:29:52,709 --> 00:29:54,252 - Sustained. 735 00:29:54,336 --> 00:29:56,171 - It's impossible to determine whether the gun found 736 00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:57,756 in Ms. Leavy's apartment was the gun 737 00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:59,132 used to kill Mark Turner. 738 00:29:59,257 --> 00:30:00,425 Correct? - Correct. 739 00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:01,509 But the barrel she purchased-- 740 00:30:01,593 --> 00:30:03,094 - Nothing else, Your Honor. 741 00:30:07,265 --> 00:30:10,602 - Grief is more than missing someone. 742 00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:14,939 The loss of a parent, a spouse, a child, it's so powerful, 743 00:30:15,023 --> 00:30:18,568 it can disrupt our very sense of meaning, identity. 744 00:30:18,693 --> 00:30:22,113 Recovery means rebuilding our story, 745 00:30:22,238 --> 00:30:24,866 incorporating that loss into a new narrative. 746 00:30:24,991 --> 00:30:26,826 - And these grief bots? 747 00:30:26,910 --> 00:30:30,246 - At Memory Branch, we refer to them as legacy avatars. 748 00:30:30,288 --> 00:30:31,831 - Forgive me. 749 00:30:31,915 --> 00:30:34,042 These legacy avatars help those who are mourning 750 00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:35,001 do all of that? 751 00:30:35,168 --> 00:30:36,336 - Yes. 752 00:30:36,378 --> 00:30:39,422 Articulate memories, clarify emotions, 753 00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:41,800 say the stuff that was left unsaid. 754 00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:43,802 It's a form of therapy. 755 00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:46,429 - It's not quite that simple, though, is it, Ms. Matthews? 756 00:30:46,513 --> 00:30:50,725 Kate Leavy paid your company $49.99 a month 757 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:53,103 to speak with her deceased husband. 758 00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:55,438 - Yes. - But if she woke up one day 759 00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:58,525 and decided that she was cured of her grief, 760 00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:00,985 she might discontinue her subscription, correct? 761 00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:02,570 - Yes. Some people do. 762 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:04,614 - Which means your revenue stream is maximized 763 00:31:04,698 --> 00:31:06,533 by keeping your clients, 764 00:31:06,616 --> 00:31:10,662 people who are mourning, hooked. 765 00:31:10,704 --> 00:31:13,039 - I wouldn't put it that way. 766 00:31:13,164 --> 00:31:17,460 - Your company programs legacy avatars like Brian Leavy 767 00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:20,171 to be echo chambers, correct? 768 00:31:20,296 --> 00:31:22,716 Isn't it true that they are built specifically 769 00:31:22,882 --> 00:31:25,427 to amplify whatever sentiment is expressed 770 00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:27,012 by your grieving clients? 771 00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:28,638 - Yes, basically, the client-- 772 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,349 - So then wasn't it true that when Kate Leavy insisted 773 00:31:31,391 --> 00:31:36,021 to her husband that someone must be to blame for his death, 774 00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:37,814 he was happy to oblige? 775 00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:42,652 Your legacy avatar eagerly coughed up a cockamamie story 776 00:31:42,819 --> 00:31:44,195 about a sinister cover-up. 777 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:45,613 - Objection. Leading. 778 00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:46,781 - Sustained. 779 00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:49,367 - He was trying to help her. 780 00:31:49,451 --> 00:31:52,203 ♪ ♪ 781 00:31:52,245 --> 00:31:54,622 - Your Honor, the people would like to introduce the video 782 00:31:54,706 --> 00:31:56,791 of the relevant conversations between Kate Leavy 783 00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:58,585 and Brian Leavy's avatar, 784 00:31:58,626 --> 00:32:00,628 what has been marked as exhibit 11A. 785 00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:03,048 - We object to the introduction of that video 786 00:32:03,131 --> 00:32:05,175 and any other recordings of conversations 787 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,385 between my client and her husband. 788 00:32:07,469 --> 00:32:09,179 - On what grounds? 789 00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:11,556 - These videos are protected by marital privilege. 790 00:32:11,598 --> 00:32:13,016 - You cannot be serious. 791 00:32:13,099 --> 00:32:15,310 - Chambers, now. 792 00:32:18,605 --> 00:32:22,025 - Your Honor, this avatar is not Brian Leavy. 793 00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,860 It's a computer program. 794 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:26,571 Communications between the defendant and this thing 795 00:32:26,613 --> 00:32:27,989 is clearly fair game. 796 00:32:28,031 --> 00:32:30,617 - Your Honor, it is true that this legacy avatar 797 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:33,411 is powered by AI, but he possesses 798 00:32:33,495 --> 00:32:35,622 and has mastered the real Brian Leavy's 799 00:32:35,705 --> 00:32:37,707 entire digital footprint-- 800 00:32:37,791 --> 00:32:41,711 Brian Leavy's likeness, voice, mannerisms, 801 00:32:41,795 --> 00:32:46,549 every social media post, his past, his life. 802 00:32:46,675 --> 00:32:48,760 When Kate Leavy interacted with him, 803 00:32:48,885 --> 00:32:51,262 she firmly believed she was speaking with her husband. 804 00:32:51,388 --> 00:32:54,015 Therefore, she had a reasonable expectation 805 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:55,725 of marital privilege. 806 00:32:55,767 --> 00:32:59,062 - The concept of privilege was designed to protect 807 00:32:59,104 --> 00:33:03,191 relationships that society places a special value on, 808 00:33:03,233 --> 00:33:05,735 to promote candor in those relationships. 809 00:33:05,777 --> 00:33:08,655 It dates back to common law, and we're talking about 810 00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:10,240 extending it to a machine? 811 00:33:10,281 --> 00:33:11,616 Where does this end? 812 00:33:11,658 --> 00:33:13,618 - I don't know, Mr. Price, 813 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:16,579 and I think that's the point. 814 00:33:16,705 --> 00:33:19,582 The genius of the law does not rest in a world 815 00:33:19,666 --> 00:33:22,377 that's dead and gone. 816 00:33:22,502 --> 00:33:25,588 - But in its adaptability to a world that is ever-changing. 817 00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,507 - State versus Hunt. 818 00:33:27,632 --> 00:33:30,260 Five years ago, the prosecution wins this debate. 819 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:34,305 But now, in 2026, I believe the spirit of marital privilege 820 00:33:34,472 --> 00:33:36,641 was alive in these conversations. 821 00:33:36,683 --> 00:33:38,560 They were meant to be private. 822 00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:41,730 They'll stay that way today. 823 00:33:41,855 --> 00:33:44,774 - The jury is not going to see Kate Leavy's communications 824 00:33:44,816 --> 00:33:46,651 with the grief bot. 825 00:33:46,735 --> 00:33:48,695 - None of it? - None of it. 826 00:33:48,778 --> 00:33:52,949 Which dramatically hampers our ability to argue motive. 827 00:33:52,991 --> 00:33:54,951 Unless we can turn up new evidence on this thing 828 00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:57,537 before court resumes in the morning, 829 00:33:57,662 --> 00:34:00,415 meaningful evidence, 830 00:34:00,457 --> 00:34:02,792 we're gonna have to offer Kate Leavy a deal. 831 00:34:02,876 --> 00:34:04,544 - A plea? 832 00:34:04,669 --> 00:34:06,254 What are you talking, manslaughter here? 833 00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:08,173 - What? Manslaughter? 834 00:34:08,256 --> 00:34:10,550 - At this point, we'd be lucky if she says yes. 835 00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:12,093 - But we know she did this. 836 00:34:12,177 --> 00:34:13,303 She looked me straight in the eye 837 00:34:13,386 --> 00:34:14,846 and confessed in detail. 838 00:34:14,971 --> 00:34:17,807 - And the jury will never know that either. 839 00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:19,434 You have till tomorrow morning. 840 00:34:28,401 --> 00:34:29,736 - You know, I was really hoping 841 00:34:29,819 --> 00:34:33,031 to make the Ranger game tonight. 842 00:34:33,156 --> 00:34:35,200 Would manslaughter really be that bad? 843 00:34:35,283 --> 00:34:37,827 - I just got off the phone with the warden of Rikers. 844 00:34:37,911 --> 00:34:40,830 Turns out, every single day since her arrest, 845 00:34:40,914 --> 00:34:42,791 Kate Leavy has signed up to access the internet 846 00:34:42,916 --> 00:34:45,293 on DOC-issued tablets. 847 00:34:45,377 --> 00:34:47,337 And the only thing she's interested in is-- 848 00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:48,254 - Talking to her dead husband. 849 00:34:48,421 --> 00:34:50,048 - Bingo. 850 00:34:50,131 --> 00:34:53,176 But she can't, because Memory Branch turned him off. 851 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:54,594 - That's the end of that, then. 852 00:34:54,636 --> 00:34:57,639 - Unless we got him turned back on. 853 00:34:57,722 --> 00:35:01,267 What if we brought Brian Leavy back from the dead 854 00:35:01,393 --> 00:35:02,977 one more time? 855 00:35:10,902 --> 00:35:11,152 . 856 00:35:11,236 --> 00:35:13,321 - Okay, I'll talk to him. 857 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:15,115 [phone beeps] 858 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,616 Hey. 859 00:35:16,658 --> 00:35:18,284 Just spoke with Detective Walker. 860 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:19,536 Says they're on to something. 861 00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:21,079 [notification chimes] 862 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:24,416 - What is it? 863 00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:25,792 - Apparently Kate Leavy is 864 00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,044 pleading guilty to murder? 865 00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:30,005 - What? 866 00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:32,590 That doesn't make any sense. - Yeah. 867 00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:35,427 - Our case is falling apart, and her lawyer knows that. 868 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:36,845 She knows that. 869 00:35:40,265 --> 00:35:42,517 - What the hell happened? 870 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,227 - Kate, I was wrong. 871 00:35:44,352 --> 00:35:46,104 I'm so sorry. 872 00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:50,400 - There was no cover-up? 873 00:35:50,525 --> 00:35:52,110 - No. 874 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:54,654 No, there was nothing wrong with that helicopter. 875 00:35:54,696 --> 00:36:00,493 It was pilot error, my error, like the FAA said. 876 00:36:00,618 --> 00:36:03,038 That poor man, Mark Turner, 877 00:36:03,163 --> 00:36:04,914 he was just doing his job, honey. 878 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,458 [tense music] 879 00:36:06,541 --> 00:36:09,878 - I did this, not you. 880 00:36:09,961 --> 00:36:11,713 I love you, Brian, 881 00:36:11,838 --> 00:36:14,549 and nothing can ever change that. 882 00:36:16,718 --> 00:36:19,596 But the fact is, 883 00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:23,308 I killed a man for nothing. 884 00:36:24,976 --> 00:36:27,354 - What the hell have you done? 885 00:36:27,437 --> 00:36:30,857 - I helped Kate Leavy see the error of her ways. 886 00:36:30,899 --> 00:36:33,568 What, am I supposed to be apologizing right now? 887 00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,779 - You went to the CEO of Memory Branch 888 00:36:35,862 --> 00:36:38,573 and persuaded her to turn Brian Leavy back on, 889 00:36:38,698 --> 00:36:40,116 and you manipulated the algorithm 890 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,118 by feeding it the FAA report? 891 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,829 - Yeah, and it worked. 892 00:36:44,871 --> 00:36:46,581 - Not the point. 893 00:36:48,416 --> 00:36:49,876 We have no choice. 894 00:36:49,959 --> 00:36:51,378 We have to disclose Detective Walker's actions 895 00:36:51,461 --> 00:36:53,463 to the defense. - Do we? 896 00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:55,382 Let's just take a look at the fuse on this bomb 897 00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:57,634 before we light it, okay? 898 00:36:57,676 --> 00:37:01,096 Kate Leavy attempted to speak with her dead husband 899 00:37:01,179 --> 00:37:03,390 every day since her arrest. 900 00:37:03,515 --> 00:37:04,974 Couldn't you argue that Detective Walker 901 00:37:05,058 --> 00:37:06,935 just gave her what she wanted? 902 00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:10,146 - Or handed her the shovel to dig her own grave. 903 00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:11,773 [sighs] 904 00:37:11,856 --> 00:37:15,193 Walker facilitated this without her attorney's knowledge. 905 00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:17,445 It's essentially ex parte communication. 906 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:18,905 - Right. 907 00:37:18,988 --> 00:37:21,700 - And he tampered with the machine's algorithm. 908 00:37:21,783 --> 00:37:24,494 He fed the thing new information 909 00:37:24,536 --> 00:37:28,873 with the express intent or hope of soliciting a new confession. 910 00:37:28,915 --> 00:37:31,334 - Which you have to applaud on some level. 911 00:37:31,376 --> 00:37:32,919 - I'm not so sure about that. 912 00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:35,797 - Detective Walker had no way of knowing 913 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,966 that Kate Leavy was going to initiate communication 914 00:37:38,049 --> 00:37:39,592 with this grief bot. 915 00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:41,136 He merely made the thing available to her. 916 00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:43,138 - Nick, come on. 917 00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:46,307 I don't like this any more than you do, but-- 918 00:37:46,391 --> 00:37:48,101 - The high road is a lonely place. 919 00:37:50,228 --> 00:37:52,147 Notify the defense. 920 00:37:54,357 --> 00:37:55,734 - This information warrants 921 00:37:55,775 --> 00:37:57,527 an immediate dismissal of charges. 922 00:37:57,610 --> 00:37:59,696 - Dismissal is extreme, 923 00:37:59,821 --> 00:38:01,990 but there is no clear constitutional violation. 924 00:38:02,073 --> 00:38:04,743 - Mr. Price, give her the floor, please. 925 00:38:04,826 --> 00:38:07,454 Given what's happened here, it's clearly her serve. 926 00:38:07,579 --> 00:38:11,332 - Your Honor, this calls for a mistrial. 927 00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:13,668 The Sixth Amendment, not to mention Massiah, 928 00:38:13,752 --> 00:38:16,546 tells us that the police cannot deliberately prompt 929 00:38:16,671 --> 00:38:19,466 a represented defendant to incriminate herself 930 00:38:19,549 --> 00:38:20,967 without her lawyer present. 931 00:38:21,051 --> 00:38:22,635 - That is not what happened. - Of course it is. 932 00:38:22,761 --> 00:38:25,430 - This grief bot is still a private app. 933 00:38:25,513 --> 00:38:27,349 It's not like Detective Walker controlled it 934 00:38:27,432 --> 00:38:28,975 with some magical joystick. 935 00:38:29,059 --> 00:38:30,477 - He turned the damn thing into an agent of the state. 936 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,145 - The connection is too indirect 937 00:38:32,228 --> 00:38:33,229 to be a Massiah violation. 938 00:38:33,355 --> 00:38:34,689 - Stop. 939 00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:36,191 Stop, stop. 940 00:38:36,274 --> 00:38:38,151 Just please stop. 941 00:38:38,234 --> 00:38:40,779 My husband has shown me the error of my ways. 942 00:38:40,862 --> 00:38:43,281 I killed an innocent man. 943 00:38:43,365 --> 00:38:45,825 [tense music] 944 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:48,578 I must take responsibility. 945 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:52,374 - Kate, don't do this. 946 00:38:52,457 --> 00:38:54,334 - Ms. Leavy, it's not my place to weigh in here, 947 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:55,877 but you should listen to your attorney. 948 00:38:57,671 --> 00:38:59,005 Your husband is dead. 949 00:38:59,130 --> 00:39:00,715 You weren't talking to him. 950 00:39:00,799 --> 00:39:02,842 - It doesn't matter. 951 00:39:02,926 --> 00:39:04,344 I-- 952 00:39:06,763 --> 00:39:12,060 I felt like I was. 953 00:39:12,143 --> 00:39:15,230 That was enough. 954 00:39:15,355 --> 00:39:18,274 I must atone. 955 00:39:18,358 --> 00:39:19,734 This is the only way. 956 00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:26,449 - Ms. Leavy, did you kill Mark Turner? 957 00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:27,701 - Yes, I did. 958 00:39:27,826 --> 00:39:29,411 - Are you guilty of murder? 959 00:39:29,536 --> 00:39:36,459 ♪ ♪ 960 00:39:36,543 --> 00:39:38,211 - Yes. 961 00:39:42,882 --> 00:39:45,051 I am. 962 00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:55,103 [breathes deeply] 963 00:39:59,983 --> 00:40:03,069 - Remind me never to subscribe to a grief bot. 964 00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:06,114 First it convinces Kate Leavy to commit murder. 965 00:40:06,197 --> 00:40:09,492 Then it gives her the worst legal advice in history. 966 00:40:09,576 --> 00:40:11,036 - [sighs] 967 00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:12,787 Well, I'm gonna go read a book. 968 00:40:12,871 --> 00:40:14,456 - [chuckles] 969 00:40:21,921 --> 00:40:24,799 [soft music] 970 00:40:24,924 --> 00:40:30,847 ♪ ♪ 971 00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:32,307 - Hi, Nolan. 972 00:40:32,349 --> 00:40:33,975 It's Dad. 973 00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:36,811 Ah, jeez. 974 00:40:36,895 --> 00:40:39,939 I guess with these damn computers in our pocket, 975 00:40:39,981 --> 00:40:42,650 I don't really have to say who it is, do I? 976 00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:44,319 [chuckles] 977 00:40:44,444 --> 00:40:49,240 Anyway, I--I just called to hear your voice 978 00:40:49,324 --> 00:40:52,535 and really to tell you 979 00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:55,413 how proud I am, son. 980 00:40:55,538 --> 00:41:00,377 Well, when you get a chance, give the old man a call. 981 00:41:00,418 --> 00:41:01,878 Love you, son. 982 00:41:01,961 --> 00:41:03,213 Bye. 983 00:41:03,296 --> 00:41:10,261 ♪ ♪ 984 00:41:17,018 --> 00:41:19,854 [dramatic music] 985 00:41:19,979 --> 00:41:26,861 ♪ ♪ 986 00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:50,010 [wolf howls]