1 00:00:05,380 --> 00:00:05,547 . 2 00:00:05,630 --> 00:00:06,881 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:07,632 --> 00:00:09,092 the people are represented 4 00:00:09,134 --> 00:00:11,469 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 5 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:13,388 the police, who investigate crime, 6 00:00:13,513 --> 00:00:16,141 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 7 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:17,809 These are their stories. 8 00:00:19,227 --> 00:00:22,022 - I told you, this has to stop. 9 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:23,356 Please, just leave me alone. 10 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:25,066 - Emily, 11 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:26,943 everyone's waiting to toast you. 12 00:00:27,068 --> 00:00:28,403 - [sighs] 13 00:00:28,486 --> 00:00:29,946 - You okay? 14 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:32,699 - Gotta keep the bad energy far away, right? 15 00:00:32,782 --> 00:00:35,994 [breathes deeply] Okay. 16 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:37,245 [upbeat music playing] 17 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:39,414 [cheers and applause] 18 00:00:39,456 --> 00:00:40,582 - Emily! 19 00:00:40,623 --> 00:00:44,419 [cheering] 20 00:00:44,502 --> 00:00:47,464 - Great work, Emily! 21 00:00:47,505 --> 00:00:48,965 - You're brilliant! 22 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:52,302 - I wanna thank you all for coming tonight, 23 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:54,429 my fellow free thinkers, 24 00:00:54,512 --> 00:00:56,765 my passionate positivists. - Yes! 25 00:00:56,806 --> 00:00:58,850 - Tomorrow we get to share so many of the ideas 26 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:00,977 we've discovered together. 27 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:05,482 We get to help even more people embrace holistic wellness. 28 00:01:05,607 --> 00:01:08,485 Here's to long, healthy lives ahead. 29 00:01:08,568 --> 00:01:11,529 [cheers and applause] 30 00:01:13,573 --> 00:01:15,575 - All right, what have we got? 31 00:01:15,658 --> 00:01:18,411 - Female, mid-30s, 32 00:01:18,453 --> 00:01:19,996 gunshot to the back of the head. 33 00:01:20,038 --> 00:01:21,664 Name is Emily Starr. 34 00:01:21,706 --> 00:01:23,375 - Close range, huh? 35 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,168 - MLI said there was some stippling on the scalp 36 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:26,252 from the powder burns. 37 00:01:26,378 --> 00:01:28,004 - Time of death? 38 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:30,006 - Body temp indicates between 10:00 and midnight. 39 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,883 - Any witnesses? 40 00:01:31,925 --> 00:01:33,510 - A clerk at the bodega around the corner remembers hearing 41 00:01:33,593 --> 00:01:36,763 a loud noise around 10:45 and seeing someone 42 00:01:36,846 --> 00:01:39,557 rush from the scaffolding in a puffy tan coat with a tote bag. 43 00:01:39,724 --> 00:01:41,643 - Man? Woman? - He couldn't say. 44 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:43,853 Perp had a hood and scarf on. 45 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,356 - Guessing because of the scaffolding, no cameras? 46 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:47,857 - Nothing functioning around here. 47 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:48,858 - Thanks. 48 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:50,527 - What have we got? 49 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:53,405 Right. Wallet, phone. 50 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:54,823 - That's a pretty nice purse. 51 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:58,993 - Emily Starr. 52 00:01:59,077 --> 00:02:01,996 "Your Amazing Life." 53 00:02:02,122 --> 00:02:04,582 - Just got cut short. 54 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:07,544 [tense music] 55 00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:10,422 ♪ ♪ 56 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:13,383 [dramatic music] 57 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:20,432 ♪ ♪ 58 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,596 - How long had you been working for her? 59 00:02:59,637 --> 00:03:01,222 - Three years. 60 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:04,559 - Emily was a wellness influencer? 61 00:03:04,642 --> 00:03:05,727 TikTok and all that? 62 00:03:05,852 --> 00:03:07,270 - It started that way. 63 00:03:07,395 --> 00:03:10,065 About ten years ago, she beat stomach cancer-- 64 00:03:10,106 --> 00:03:11,983 naturally. 65 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:13,943 She started a vlog about it, that caught on, 66 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:15,945 and pretty soon, she was recommending 67 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:19,449 homeopathic remedies for sleep issues, skin problems. 68 00:03:19,532 --> 00:03:20,867 A few years ago she opened the center here 69 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:22,243 because so many of her followers 70 00:03:22,327 --> 00:03:24,871 wanted to work with her in person. 71 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:28,416 - Does Emily have any family that we should be notifying? 72 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,043 - No--her mom split when she was young, 73 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:31,795 and her dad died of lung cancer. 74 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:34,255 That's what got her started on her health journey. 75 00:03:34,339 --> 00:03:37,258 - Emily was killed on 10th and 27th. 76 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:39,094 You know what she was doing there? 77 00:03:39,135 --> 00:03:41,388 - She was walking home from her book party here. 78 00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:43,348 - Did she leave alone? - Yeah. 79 00:03:43,473 --> 00:03:44,641 - Were there any problems at the party? 80 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:45,767 Any arguments? 81 00:03:45,809 --> 00:03:47,227 - No. 82 00:03:47,268 --> 00:03:49,771 It was a great night. [sighs] 83 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:52,065 But she did get a call that kind of rattled her. 84 00:03:52,148 --> 00:03:54,150 - Do you know who from? - No. 85 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:57,737 She stepped away to take it and looked worried. 86 00:03:58,863 --> 00:04:01,157 [phone ringing] 87 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:03,451 - The ME says the slug pulled from the vic 88 00:04:03,576 --> 00:04:05,870 was from a .22 caliber. 89 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:08,123 The grate sweeps have not found a murder weapon, 90 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:10,834 so where are we at with this menacing conversation? 91 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:12,085 - According to Emily Starr's cell records, 92 00:04:12,168 --> 00:04:14,004 between 7:00 and 9:00 p.m., 93 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,797 she got seven calls from the same number. 94 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:17,340 - And? 95 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:19,426 - The number traces to 96 00:04:19,551 --> 00:04:20,969 Skylar Gibson. 97 00:04:21,011 --> 00:04:24,556 - Oh, she's another health influencer. 98 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:26,808 And judging by her social media posts-- 99 00:04:26,891 --> 00:04:29,519 #backstabber, #snake-- 100 00:04:29,644 --> 00:04:31,730 she's not a fan of Emily Starr. 101 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:35,150 - She also texted Emily an hour before she was killed. 102 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:38,069 "Watch your back, bitch." 103 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,612 - That doesn't sound healthy. 104 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:45,368 - Emily and I used to be friends, 105 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:47,746 roommates for a couple years. 106 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:49,706 We planned to write a wellness book together. 107 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:51,041 - And what, she went off on her own? 108 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:52,334 - [sighs] 109 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:55,128 She wrote her book without even telling me. 110 00:04:55,211 --> 00:04:57,130 Then last week I got my hands on an early copy, 111 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:59,424 saw my recipes, my pose sequence. 112 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:01,426 - And that ticked you off? 113 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:04,012 - The wellness market is a $2 trillion industry, detectives. 114 00:05:04,095 --> 00:05:06,056 We all want a piece. 115 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:07,515 This was a serious business dispute. 116 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:08,892 - "Watch your back, bitch"? 117 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:09,893 - That doesn't sound very businessy. 118 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:11,144 - Mm-mm. 119 00:05:11,186 --> 00:05:12,520 You got an alibi for last night? 120 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:14,439 - I was leading an online breath class-- 121 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:16,358 the whole thing was recorded. 122 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:18,943 I never stepped foot outside this building until 11:00 p.m. 123 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:22,739 Look, I'm sorry she's dead, truly. 124 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:24,407 - Okay. 125 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:27,952 But can you think of anyone who might want to kill her? 126 00:05:28,036 --> 00:05:29,954 - [sighs] 127 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,583 Well, her ex, Zane, loved her too much. 128 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,460 Trolled her after the breakup. 129 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:37,087 Dude had anger issues. 130 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:38,963 [soft tense music] 131 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:41,633 And I'm betting he didn't like that Emily wrote about him. 132 00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:42,967 - In her new book? 133 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:46,930 - Chapter 13, "Cleansing Yourself of an Evil Ex." 134 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:50,225 ♪ ♪ 135 00:05:56,314 --> 00:05:56,523 . 136 00:05:56,564 --> 00:05:57,190 - Hi, Zane. 137 00:05:58,566 --> 00:05:59,359 We're just gonna play a little show and tell, all right? 138 00:05:59,442 --> 00:06:00,735 I'm gonna show you a video, 139 00:06:00,819 --> 00:06:01,778 you're gonna tell me what the hell you're doing. 140 00:06:01,903 --> 00:06:03,196 Sit down. 141 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:10,245 That's you at Emily's book party two nights ago, 142 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:12,997 trying to get in, while that nice gentleman with the iPad 143 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:15,125 is telling you to take a hike. 144 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:17,210 That piss you off? - No! 145 00:06:17,335 --> 00:06:19,337 I-I just wanted five minutes of her time. 146 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:20,714 I wanted to make amends. 147 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,674 - Make amends for trolling her online for a year? 148 00:06:22,757 --> 00:06:24,843 - Look, I'm a better man now, okay? 149 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:26,928 I--I'm getting married next month, 150 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:28,805 and I credit Emily for motivating me 151 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:30,140 to get my act together. 152 00:06:30,265 --> 00:06:32,976 - Why the sudden need to unburden yourself? 153 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:34,227 I mean, do you really think she would have 154 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:36,438 wanted you at her big night? 155 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:37,689 - I heard her on the radio this week. 156 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:39,566 She was reading from her book. 157 00:06:39,691 --> 00:06:44,362 It's a bit about me, and I sounded awful. 158 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:46,823 So I went to apologize, 159 00:06:46,906 --> 00:06:48,658 and then they wouldn't let me in, so I left. 160 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:50,368 - Where'd you go? 161 00:06:50,452 --> 00:06:53,204 - Just a bar I know. It's a mile north of the event. 162 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:59,085 - Hey, Zane's alibi holds. 163 00:06:59,127 --> 00:07:01,296 Got surveillance from outside the bar. 164 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:04,215 He leaves six minutes after the shot was fired. 165 00:07:04,299 --> 00:07:05,633 - Okay. 166 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,635 Is that a city bus coming up 10th Ave 167 00:07:07,719 --> 00:07:09,137 from the direction of the shooting? 168 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:10,930 - It is, which means that it passed 169 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:12,474 by the area of the shooting just minutes prior. 170 00:07:12,557 --> 00:07:13,892 - Did you pull the dash cam? 171 00:07:14,017 --> 00:07:15,143 - Mm-hmm, and look what it found 172 00:07:15,226 --> 00:07:16,936 a few blocks north of the shooting. 173 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:19,773 - You run facial rec? 174 00:07:19,898 --> 00:07:22,108 - No luck. The face isn't visible enough. 175 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:23,693 - But the figure does match the description 176 00:07:23,777 --> 00:07:26,154 we got from the witness, minus the tote bag. 177 00:07:26,196 --> 00:07:28,073 - So the shooter must have ditched the tote bag 178 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:29,449 between the shooting and here. 179 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:30,700 - Do you have a map of the area? 180 00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:31,785 - Yeah. 181 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,667 - Okay, see right there? 182 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:40,460 That passageway that the shooter's coming out of, 183 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:41,670 that's a dead end. 184 00:07:41,711 --> 00:07:43,546 - So the shooter ducked in and ducked out. 185 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:45,215 - Call the SRGs. 186 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:47,258 I'm sure there's a couple of dumpsters in that alley. 187 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:50,053 [gunshot] 188 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:51,304 - The gun was still in the tote bag, 189 00:07:51,429 --> 00:07:54,099 so it wasn't contaminated with any trash. 190 00:07:54,182 --> 00:07:56,017 - Any prints? - Nothing on the weapon. 191 00:07:56,101 --> 00:07:59,813 But when we test-fired it, we found something interesting. 192 00:07:59,896 --> 00:08:01,481 See those grooves? 193 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:03,942 - Yeah. Any match in NIBIN? 194 00:08:04,025 --> 00:08:05,819 - Primer pin markings on this casing 195 00:08:05,902 --> 00:08:08,029 are an exact match to a bullet pulled from a convenience store 196 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:09,656 armed robbery six years ago. 197 00:08:09,739 --> 00:08:11,157 - What happened to that gun? 198 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:12,784 - According to the file, it was never recovered. 199 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:14,619 But they did get the shooter. 200 00:08:14,744 --> 00:08:16,246 Got a conviction based on video. 201 00:08:16,329 --> 00:08:17,580 - Who was the shooter? 202 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:19,040 - Eric Domingo, 203 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:20,959 from South Ozone Park. 204 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:23,044 Some narcotics priors. 205 00:08:23,128 --> 00:08:24,379 - Any idea where he is now? 206 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:25,964 - Looks like he was up at Mid-State 207 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:28,091 but was released a month ago. 208 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:30,969 [suspenseful music] 209 00:08:31,052 --> 00:08:32,971 ♪ ♪ 210 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:35,140 [pounding on door] 211 00:08:35,223 --> 00:08:37,100 - NYPD! 212 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:38,727 Domingo, open up! 213 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:39,811 NYPD! 214 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:42,272 - Whoa, whoa, whoa, officers! 215 00:08:42,397 --> 00:08:43,982 - Stand back! Stand back! 216 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:45,483 - I-- - You stand back! 217 00:08:45,608 --> 00:08:47,777 - There's nothing in the house, I swear. 218 00:08:47,819 --> 00:08:48,903 - All right, check the back room. 219 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:50,363 Make sure it's clear. 220 00:08:50,488 --> 00:08:51,656 - You're not gonna find anything. 221 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:53,074 - We're not interested in your dope. 222 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:54,617 We wanna talk about Emily Starr. 223 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:55,952 - I don't know what you're talking about. 224 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,537 - That surprises me, 'cause she was killed 225 00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:58,580 by the gun you used in an armed robbery 226 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,040 a few years ago. 227 00:09:00,081 --> 00:09:01,958 - And we also have a bullet from it 228 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:05,295 that pierced the skull of a 34-year-old woman. 229 00:09:05,337 --> 00:09:06,588 - [exhales] 230 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:08,131 Holy-- 231 00:09:08,173 --> 00:09:09,924 - So you wanna tell us where you were two nights ago, 232 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:12,010 around 10:45? 233 00:09:12,135 --> 00:09:13,345 - You mean Thursday night? 234 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:14,637 - Yeah. 235 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:16,723 - That was my recovery meeting. 236 00:09:16,765 --> 00:09:19,184 Yeah, yeah, at St. Mary of Ascension. 237 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:20,852 Talk to Father Romano. 238 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:22,395 There were ten of us. 239 00:09:22,479 --> 00:09:23,855 He had us praying, praying to stay clean. 240 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:26,107 It was from 9:00 to 11:00. 241 00:09:26,149 --> 00:09:27,776 - So how did your gun end up as a murder weapon 242 00:09:27,859 --> 00:09:29,152 while you're talking to God? 243 00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:30,487 ♪ ♪ 244 00:09:30,528 --> 00:09:32,113 - Hey, look, 245 00:09:32,197 --> 00:09:35,325 my girl pawned it while I was in. 246 00:09:35,367 --> 00:09:38,453 She needed the cash. 247 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,205 - Clayton Boyce? 248 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:41,873 - You're law enforcement? 249 00:09:41,956 --> 00:09:44,668 - That is correct. 250 00:09:44,793 --> 00:09:47,087 We're here about a gun a New York City pawn shop 251 00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:48,963 resold you a few months ago. 252 00:09:49,047 --> 00:09:51,174 - Sounds like an illegal firearm 253 00:09:51,257 --> 00:09:54,260 and an illegal transaction, which I would not partake in. 254 00:09:54,344 --> 00:09:55,929 - That's so funny. 255 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:57,889 That's exactly what the pawn shop guy said to me 256 00:09:58,014 --> 00:10:00,016 right before I threatened to have the ATF shut him down. 257 00:10:00,141 --> 00:10:01,518 - I got rights. 258 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:02,644 I don't have to speak to you. 259 00:10:02,769 --> 00:10:04,270 - Oh, we got rights too. 260 00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:06,606 We got rights to get a warrant for all your records, 261 00:10:06,690 --> 00:10:08,817 every transaction. 262 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,569 I mean, if you sold one single keychain without sales tax, 263 00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:14,572 the state has the right to revoke your business license. 264 00:10:14,656 --> 00:10:16,199 And that's after we exercise our right 265 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:18,827 to get your FFL yanked. 266 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:23,081 - Listen, that .22 revolver was used in a murder. 267 00:10:23,206 --> 00:10:25,166 If you help us find out who bought it, 268 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:27,585 we may just get too busy chasing down our suspect... 269 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:28,920 - We get very focused. 270 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:30,088 - And we just don't have any time 271 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,756 to look into your bookkeeping. 272 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,844 - At the gun shows, people show up with cash 273 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:37,846 looking for something under the table. 274 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:40,181 Some sellers unload stuff out back. 275 00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:42,308 - You got a place and date for this gun show 276 00:10:42,392 --> 00:10:44,394 where this .22, which you know nothing about, 277 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:46,312 disappeared? 278 00:10:46,354 --> 00:10:48,773 - Falling Rock Gun Show, ten days ago. 279 00:10:50,442 --> 00:10:52,485 - There's no list of gun show attendants, 280 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:54,237 but we managed to get parking lot video. 281 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,281 - We ran 122 plates. 282 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:58,742 - Any matches to anyone on Emily Starr's contact list? 283 00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:00,160 - Nothing. 284 00:11:00,285 --> 00:11:01,619 But three were rental cars, so we looked 285 00:11:01,745 --> 00:11:03,455 at video of those drivers. 286 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:05,331 Two show their faces in broad daylight. 287 00:11:05,457 --> 00:11:07,250 But this one, the one with the hat down, scarf up-- 288 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:08,793 - Trying to hide. 289 00:11:08,918 --> 00:11:09,961 - That car was rented to a Roger Massey 290 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:11,588 from Darien, Connecticut-- 291 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:14,299 52, married, works for Capstone Insurance. 292 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:17,010 - Why don't you run the rental plates through the MTA 293 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:19,137 and see if that car was anywhere near Manhattan 294 00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:20,847 the night of the murder? - Mm-hmm. 295 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,807 - And, uh, does this guy have any link to Emily? 296 00:11:22,932 --> 00:11:25,060 - He's not on her client or follower list. 297 00:11:25,143 --> 00:11:29,230 - Looks like he came in over the Triborough at 8:18 p.m. 298 00:11:29,272 --> 00:11:32,150 Went back over the bridge at 11:52 p.m. 299 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:34,361 - That's an hour after the murder. 300 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:36,488 - Let's call in a warrant. 301 00:11:36,571 --> 00:11:38,615 [tense music] 302 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,158 [knock at door] 303 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:43,578 - What in the hell is going on here? 304 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:44,412 - We have a warrant to search your premises. 305 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:45,580 Step aside, sir. 306 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:48,124 Thank you. - Search for what? Why? 307 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:51,294 - Mr. Massey, your rental car was in Pennsylvania last week 308 00:11:51,419 --> 00:11:53,421 at a gun show where we believe you purchased a weapon 309 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,131 used in a recent murder. 310 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:57,050 - Murder? Pennsylvania? 311 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,468 Well, that's not possible. 312 00:11:58,593 --> 00:12:00,387 My wife was only using the rental for errands 313 00:12:00,512 --> 00:12:01,471 while hers was in the shop. 314 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:02,972 Someone else must have used it. 315 00:12:03,098 --> 00:12:04,849 Carol, come down! 316 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:09,771 They're here about the rental car. 317 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:11,272 - Rental car? 318 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:13,608 - Hey, we found this in the garage trash, 319 00:12:13,692 --> 00:12:16,111 bagged a few times. 320 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,779 We sprayed luminol. It's got blood spatter on it. 321 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:19,197 - Blood? 322 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,950 What in the hell is going on here? 323 00:12:22,033 --> 00:12:25,370 - Mrs. Massey, is that your jacket? 324 00:12:25,412 --> 00:12:27,497 - Roger, say nothing. 325 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:29,082 - What? - Just say nothing. 326 00:12:29,165 --> 00:12:31,042 - All right, let's go. We're taking them both in. 327 00:12:31,126 --> 00:12:32,752 - He--he did nothing wrong. - That's okay. Come on. 328 00:12:32,836 --> 00:12:34,295 We're gonna let the DA make that call. 329 00:12:34,379 --> 00:12:36,131 - You have the right to remain silent, do you understand? 330 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:37,882 Anything you say can and will be used against you. 331 00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:39,175 Do you understand? - Roger, it's okay. 332 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:40,301 Say nothing. 333 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:41,803 Nothing. 334 00:12:47,058 --> 00:12:47,308 . 335 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:48,810 - Neither the wife nor the husband is talking? 336 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:52,272 - No, not a peep, and they both have lawyers on the way. 337 00:12:52,355 --> 00:12:55,066 But I did call the insurance company where Roger works, 338 00:12:55,233 --> 00:12:56,818 and they say he was in the office 339 00:12:56,901 --> 00:12:58,528 on the day of the gun show. 340 00:12:58,570 --> 00:13:02,574 Also, there was only one person in the surveillance video 341 00:13:02,699 --> 00:13:05,410 of the rental car, who matches her build. 342 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:08,079 All the evidence points to the wife being a single shooter, 343 00:13:08,163 --> 00:13:10,040 wearing the jacket that was found at the Massey house 344 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:11,624 with the victim's blood. 345 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:13,043 I mean, Carol's DNA is all over it. 346 00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:15,170 - Why does a suburban wife 347 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:17,672 execute a 30-something influencer? 348 00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:19,424 - We pulled the phone records. 349 00:13:19,549 --> 00:13:22,802 It seems like Roger called her twice, five months ago. 350 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:24,387 And then she stopped answering his calls. 351 00:13:24,429 --> 00:13:25,847 - What about her? 352 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,390 She have any contact with the victim? 353 00:13:27,557 --> 00:13:29,142 - She reached out a few times in the weeks before the murder, 354 00:13:29,225 --> 00:13:30,977 but the calls always went to voicemail. 355 00:13:31,061 --> 00:13:35,440 - So maybe the husband had an affair with Emily Starr, 356 00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:37,233 and the wife got jealous? 357 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:38,860 - Motive is iffy here. 358 00:13:40,695 --> 00:13:44,240 - But we can prove that she bought the gun the week before, 359 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:45,617 and then she shot the victim in the back of the head? 360 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:47,911 - I think any grand jury in town will say yes. 361 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:49,537 - So... 362 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:51,164 cut the husband loose, 363 00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:52,957 charge the wife with murder two. 364 00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:57,545 - So what's the connection 365 00:13:57,671 --> 00:14:00,048 between Carol Massey and Emily Starr? 366 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:02,509 'Cause other than some unanswered phone calls, 367 00:14:02,634 --> 00:14:04,636 I don't see that she sent any emails to the victim. 368 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:09,182 - No, no, but here's a flurry of emails 369 00:14:09,265 --> 00:14:12,686 with someone named Lauren Hope in the month before the murder. 370 00:14:12,727 --> 00:14:15,313 Subject, uh, "Why won't you listen," 371 00:14:15,355 --> 00:14:18,358 and "Stop ignoring me." 372 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,111 Email address is at Hudson University. 373 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:22,237 - Hmm. 374 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:25,031 Well, according to her social media, 375 00:14:25,156 --> 00:14:27,367 Lauren Hope, age 20, 376 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:28,993 used to live in Darien, Connecticut, 377 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,954 before she went to Hudson. 378 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:35,041 Oh, used to be tagged in her photos as Lauren Massey. 379 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,545 - She's the couple's daughter? 380 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,549 Is there a Lauren Hope in Emily's records? 381 00:14:42,674 --> 00:14:44,759 - Lauren Hope. 382 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:49,389 Oh, just last year she spent 14 grand on Starr's workshop. 383 00:14:49,472 --> 00:14:51,182 Three-day cleanse. 384 00:14:51,266 --> 00:14:54,352 - That is a lot of money for green juice. 385 00:14:54,436 --> 00:14:57,564 - She also paid weekly rent to stay at Starr's center 386 00:14:57,605 --> 00:14:59,524 last winter, over the holidays. 387 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,443 Guessing Mom didn't like that. 388 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,987 - This email to her daughter says, 389 00:15:04,112 --> 00:15:08,158 "Emily Starr only wants your money," 390 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,619 and "the woman is dangerous." 391 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:15,457 So, rebellious kid changes name, 392 00:15:15,623 --> 00:15:20,253 blows through thousands on fringe wellness regimen? 393 00:15:20,337 --> 00:15:22,380 - Mom kills to shut it down? 394 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:27,135 - It's not perfect, but it's the beginning of a narrative. 395 00:15:30,972 --> 00:15:34,893 An illegally purchased handgun a week before the murder, 396 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,812 the victim's blood on the defendant's jacket, 397 00:15:37,896 --> 00:15:41,191 emails detailing Carol Massey's anger 398 00:15:41,232 --> 00:15:44,152 at her daughter's spending at Emily Starr's center-- 399 00:15:44,194 --> 00:15:47,697 the state has a preponderance of evidence 400 00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:52,452 linking Carol Massey to this horrific crime... 401 00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:54,496 which ended the life 402 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:56,247 of an innocent young woman. 403 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:05,006 - Everything Mr. Price said, absolutely true. 404 00:16:05,048 --> 00:16:07,842 The evidence against my client is crystal clear. 405 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:10,053 What's not clear? 406 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:13,640 Why Carol Massey had to commit this horrific crime. 407 00:16:13,765 --> 00:16:16,059 Well, I'll tell you-- because Emily Starr is not, 408 00:16:16,101 --> 00:16:19,437 as Mr. Price would have you believe, an innocent woman. 409 00:16:19,562 --> 00:16:23,233 She was instead a deadly, imminent threat 410 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:26,027 to the defendant's daughter, Lauren Massey. 411 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:29,739 20-year-old Lauren nearly died under Emily Starr's 412 00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:31,491 so-called care 413 00:16:31,616 --> 00:16:34,160 and would have died 414 00:16:34,244 --> 00:16:36,538 had Carol Massey not acted. 415 00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:38,498 My client only killed Emily Starr 416 00:16:38,581 --> 00:16:41,376 to save her daughter's life. 417 00:16:41,418 --> 00:16:44,087 This was an incontrovertible defense of others. 418 00:16:44,129 --> 00:16:45,255 - Objection. 419 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:48,008 Your Honor, this is unfair surprise. 420 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:49,884 - Chambers. 421 00:16:49,926 --> 00:16:52,595 - Emily Starr was unarmed when she was shot. 422 00:16:52,637 --> 00:16:54,264 - We're not saying she was a threat to Carol Massey. 423 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:56,099 She was an imminent threat to Lauren. 424 00:16:56,224 --> 00:16:57,726 - Who was nowhere near the crime scene. 425 00:16:57,767 --> 00:17:00,812 Your Honor, Lauren Massey has not responded to us, 426 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:03,732 but we can confirm that she was 3 miles 427 00:17:03,773 --> 00:17:05,734 from the shooting that night. - Is this true? 428 00:17:05,817 --> 00:17:07,235 - It's irrelevant to our defense. 429 00:17:07,277 --> 00:17:08,695 Your Honor, Lauren Massey suffers from 430 00:17:08,778 --> 00:17:10,822 acute lymphocytic leukemia. 431 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:12,365 She won't respond to Mr. Price 432 00:17:12,407 --> 00:17:13,700 'cause she was in the hospital, 433 00:17:13,742 --> 00:17:16,161 finally receiving proper medical care. 434 00:17:16,244 --> 00:17:19,914 - Uh, Your Honor, Section 35.15, New York State Code, 435 00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:22,667 mandates that defense of others can only be invoked 436 00:17:22,751 --> 00:17:26,796 to stop the use of unlawful physical force against someone. 437 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:28,965 - Physical harm was a component. 438 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,092 Emily Starr made Lauren Massey forsake 439 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:32,802 lifesaving medical treatment. 440 00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:34,846 - But her advice wasn't unlawful, 441 00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:37,307 and the defendant was too far from her daughter at the time 442 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:39,142 of the shooting to possibly meet 443 00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:40,935 the reasonable belief standard 444 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:43,396 that her daughter's death was imminent. 445 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,899 - Your Honor, we will present science to show her death 446 00:17:46,024 --> 00:17:47,067 was imminent. 447 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:49,527 Due to Emily Starr's reckless remedies, 448 00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:52,113 Lauren Massey was on the brink of death 449 00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:54,115 until her mother intervened. 450 00:17:56,368 --> 00:17:58,078 - I'll allow. 451 00:18:00,372 --> 00:18:02,540 - The defense is totally meritless, 452 00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:06,044 but we need to be ready for whatever accusations 453 00:18:06,127 --> 00:18:08,838 they throw at the victim. 454 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,050 - So what did Emily Starr actually say about cancer? 455 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:13,635 - [sighs] 456 00:18:15,553 --> 00:18:20,225 "Juicing cleanses the body of toxins and fights disease," 457 00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:24,604 and "Rebalancing the body's pH level can kill cancer." 458 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:27,691 pH level. That is a nice touch. 459 00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:31,152 So Emily Starr peddled in unproven remedies, 460 00:18:31,194 --> 00:18:33,571 and a teenager ended up dangerously sick. 461 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:36,491 - Yeah, but Emily didn't use physical force against Lauren. 462 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:38,785 It doesn't meet the legal standard of the defense. 463 00:18:38,827 --> 00:18:41,204 - It may not matter to the jury. 464 00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:42,747 Defense is gonna have a field day presenting 465 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:44,833 Emily's homeopathic nonsense. 466 00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:46,710 They will go for jury nullification 467 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:51,756 and force us to defend her pH juice cleanses. 468 00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:54,384 - Nolan, just so you know, 469 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:57,095 I don't think homeopathy is nonsense, 470 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:59,597 and I'm gonna bet there are a few jury members 471 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:01,182 who are just like me. 472 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:04,227 I actually followed Emily Starr. 473 00:19:04,352 --> 00:19:06,604 You can't just dismiss an entire field. 474 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:09,357 - As it pertains to this case, 475 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,693 the defense will paint Emily Starr 476 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:13,737 as a deadly snake oil saleswoman, 477 00:19:13,778 --> 00:19:16,614 and they will argue that the stakes for Lauren Massey, 478 00:19:16,698 --> 00:19:19,701 who is battling a serious leukemia, were life and death. 479 00:19:19,743 --> 00:19:21,411 It's not gonna be hard for the defense 480 00:19:21,453 --> 00:19:23,955 to garner sympathy for the mom of a cancer victim. 481 00:19:26,041 --> 00:19:27,083 - Okay. 482 00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:29,127 So we remind the jury 483 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:31,379 that this is about free speech, 484 00:19:31,421 --> 00:19:33,089 that it's about guarding care options 485 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:34,716 they may very well want. 486 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,260 We defend Emily's integrity 487 00:19:37,302 --> 00:19:40,055 and we make damn sure she's sympathetic as well. 488 00:19:43,433 --> 00:19:45,685 - Healing others was her life's calling. 489 00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:47,145 She wanted people to know they had choices 490 00:19:47,187 --> 00:19:48,480 outside of the establishment. 491 00:19:48,563 --> 00:19:50,148 - How did she help you? 492 00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:51,191 - I was an addict. 493 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:52,901 Opioids. 494 00:19:52,984 --> 00:19:54,527 She walked me through detox, 495 00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:56,279 gave me natural remedies for the pain, 496 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,531 sat with me through the worst of it. 497 00:19:58,656 --> 00:20:00,784 - Did Emily ever prevent you getting a second opinion 498 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:02,035 from a real doctor? 499 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,204 - No, but I've honestly been so healthy 500 00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:06,164 it hasn't even crossed my mind. 501 00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:08,708 I owe everything to her guidance. 502 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:09,751 - Nothing further. 503 00:20:13,421 --> 00:20:16,341 - How much did Emily's guidance cost? 504 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:18,051 - I can't say exactly. 505 00:20:18,134 --> 00:20:19,302 - Ballpark. Last year, 506 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:20,804 how much did she make? 507 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:23,181 I mean, you had access to her business statements. 508 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,934 - It was around 700,000. - Wow. 509 00:20:25,975 --> 00:20:27,602 - But her company earnings allowed her 510 00:20:27,644 --> 00:20:30,480 to grow her platform, reach more people. 511 00:20:30,522 --> 00:20:33,024 - How much money did Emily make off Lauren Massey, 512 00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:34,651 the defendant's daughter? 513 00:20:34,693 --> 00:20:36,403 - I'm not sure. 514 00:20:36,486 --> 00:20:40,657 - Your Honor, I'm handing over what has been marked exhibit A, 515 00:20:40,699 --> 00:20:43,785 Lauren Massey's payment records to Starr Serenity Center. 516 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:47,122 Would you read aloud the total amount? 517 00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:49,541 - $23,204. 518 00:20:49,624 --> 00:20:52,002 - 23,000. 519 00:20:52,085 --> 00:20:54,129 Was that for high-tech machines, CT scans, 520 00:20:54,212 --> 00:20:56,339 MRIs, cutting-edge medicine? 521 00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:58,383 - She offered a full homeopathic regimen of juice, 522 00:20:58,466 --> 00:21:00,301 herbal teas, enemas, exercise-- 523 00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:03,138 - Were you aware that doctors, people with actual 524 00:21:03,221 --> 00:21:05,598 medical degrees who study cancer, 525 00:21:05,724 --> 00:21:09,769 had given Lauren an 85% to 100% long-term survival rate 526 00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:11,688 if she underwent chemo and radiation? 527 00:21:11,813 --> 00:21:13,732 But that if her cancer went untreated 528 00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:16,109 by those tested therapies, 529 00:21:16,234 --> 00:21:17,527 they estimated 530 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:18,903 that she had only a year to live? 531 00:21:18,987 --> 00:21:20,280 - I don't think-- 532 00:21:20,321 --> 00:21:22,198 - Your Honor, Mr. Sirianni's questions 533 00:21:22,282 --> 00:21:23,825 are outside the scope of the witness's testimony. 534 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,410 - Withdrawn. 535 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:27,662 [tense music] 536 00:21:27,704 --> 00:21:29,164 But... 537 00:21:29,247 --> 00:21:30,874 just so I can completely wrap my head 538 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,292 around the finances, 539 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:34,252 true or false: 540 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,629 Emily Starr asked Lauren Massey 541 00:21:36,713 --> 00:21:40,050 to pay her $23,000 542 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:41,801 to be killed slowly within a year? 543 00:21:41,885 --> 00:21:43,636 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 544 00:21:43,762 --> 00:21:45,055 Nothing further. 545 00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:50,852 ♪ ♪ 546 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:56,858 . 547 00:21:56,858 --> 00:21:58,693 - Get this-- "Influencer's followers 548 00:21:59,444 --> 00:22:01,488 sing her holistic praises." 549 00:22:01,571 --> 00:22:04,532 Emily Starr's subscribers list is growing. 550 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,577 Her followers are making TikTok testimonials. 551 00:22:07,702 --> 00:22:10,121 - After the defense painted her as a crook? 552 00:22:10,205 --> 00:22:12,374 - Guess all press is good press. 553 00:22:12,415 --> 00:22:14,167 - Not according to the oncology community. 554 00:22:14,292 --> 00:22:15,669 They're up in arms about all this 555 00:22:15,794 --> 00:22:17,921 anti-science wellness stuff. 556 00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:21,508 They have officially denounced Emily, her center, 557 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:24,594 and 18,000 other TikTok influencers 558 00:22:24,678 --> 00:22:27,430 whose cancer cures have no basis in science. 559 00:22:27,555 --> 00:22:29,391 - 18,000? That's a lot. 560 00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:30,725 - Yeah, it is. 561 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,230 And that could be useful. 562 00:22:40,944 --> 00:22:43,196 - And when did you learn that Lauren had decided 563 00:22:43,321 --> 00:22:46,908 on Emily Starr's so-called therapy? 564 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:50,078 - Lauren missed a follow-up with her oncologist, 565 00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:51,996 so I called her. 566 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,335 She said big business had caused her cancer. 567 00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:00,422 She didn't want big pharma to profit off her treatment. 568 00:23:00,547 --> 00:23:02,215 She told us she was changing her name 569 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:05,260 to reflect this new outlook-- 570 00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:07,470 Lauren Hope. 571 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:09,305 And, uh, she didn't want my dangerous 572 00:23:09,431 --> 00:23:11,558 and doom-filled advice. 573 00:23:11,641 --> 00:23:14,477 I was so confused. 574 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:17,897 And then eventually we found a credit card bill 575 00:23:17,981 --> 00:23:21,151 for Starr Serenity Center and figured out 576 00:23:21,192 --> 00:23:23,111 who Emily Starr was. 577 00:23:23,153 --> 00:23:24,696 - And what was the status of Lauren's cancer 578 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:25,989 during this time? 579 00:23:26,031 --> 00:23:27,490 - We didn't know. 580 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:31,244 But last June, we got a phone call from an ambulance. 581 00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:33,455 Lauren had collapsed in a store. 582 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,999 At the hospital we got her an MRI, 583 00:23:36,124 --> 00:23:39,961 and the cancer, it was all over her insides. 584 00:23:40,045 --> 00:23:43,506 It was just eating her away. 585 00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:46,343 And we thought this would snap her back to her senses, 586 00:23:46,384 --> 00:23:51,056 but Emily told her it was a natural cleansing stage, 587 00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:54,309 that what she needed was rest at the center. 588 00:23:56,186 --> 00:23:58,855 My husband and I had four different oncologists 589 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,231 look at Lauren's scans, 590 00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:01,816 and they all said the same thing-- 591 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,152 that she would be dead within months. 592 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,820 - Did you give this information to Lauren? 593 00:24:05,904 --> 00:24:07,489 - We couldn't. 594 00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:09,949 Emily told her to avoid upsetting contact. 595 00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:11,826 I couldn't find her at her dorm. 596 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:14,537 I didn't know if she was at the center or on a trip. 597 00:24:14,579 --> 00:24:18,833 All I knew was that she was gonna die very soon. 598 00:24:22,712 --> 00:24:24,005 - Nothing further. 599 00:24:27,717 --> 00:24:30,470 - Mrs. Massey, um, 600 00:24:30,595 --> 00:24:32,138 I-- 601 00:24:32,222 --> 00:24:35,517 I can only imagine how stressful it is 602 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,727 to have a sick child, and I applaud your efforts 603 00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:39,229 to get her the best treatment. 604 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,397 - Thank you. 605 00:24:40,438 --> 00:24:42,899 - She had chemo 606 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,609 and radiation, correct? 607 00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:46,403 - At the start, yes. 608 00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:50,281 - So your daughter was well-versed 609 00:24:50,323 --> 00:24:52,659 in the care options available, 610 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:55,078 and yet she chose something else. 611 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:59,082 - No, she was led to believe that this juice option 612 00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:02,168 could be as effective as radiation and chemo. 613 00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:05,880 And then Emily told her that she was better. 614 00:25:05,922 --> 00:25:08,091 That--that's not a choice, that's a con. 615 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:11,011 [tense music] 616 00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:14,973 - You admit freely to shooting Emily Starr? 617 00:25:15,056 --> 00:25:16,516 - I do. 618 00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:18,601 - Right, because of the dangerous advice 619 00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:20,061 she gave your daughter? 620 00:25:20,103 --> 00:25:21,771 - Yes. 621 00:25:21,813 --> 00:25:25,483 - Did you know, Mrs. Massey, that just last year, 622 00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:28,611 over 18,000 wellness advisors 623 00:25:28,737 --> 00:25:32,615 recommended alternatives to chemo and radiation? 624 00:25:32,699 --> 00:25:34,242 Would you kill them all? 625 00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,163 - Those thousands didn't shut my daughter 626 00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:39,706 away from her parents. 627 00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:42,083 - Is that what this is about? 628 00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:45,420 Anger that Emily Starr assumed your role? 629 00:25:45,462 --> 00:25:46,921 - [scoffs] 630 00:25:46,963 --> 00:25:48,423 No. 631 00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:50,175 - Is that why you could think of no other remedy 632 00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:51,509 but to shoot her? 633 00:25:51,551 --> 00:25:53,720 - I just went there to scare her, 634 00:25:53,762 --> 00:25:56,598 to beg her to leave Lauren alone. 635 00:25:56,639 --> 00:25:58,516 - With a loaded gun that you had driven 636 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,393 across state lines to purchase? 637 00:26:00,477 --> 00:26:03,396 - Lauren needed treatment. She needed a doctor. 638 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,815 Emily walked away. 639 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,818 Her spell over my daughter, it needed to be broken. 640 00:26:08,985 --> 00:26:10,987 My baby was gonna die. I wasn't gonna let that happen. 641 00:26:11,112 --> 00:26:13,948 So, yes, I--I shot her. 642 00:26:14,115 --> 00:26:19,204 ♪ ♪ 643 00:26:19,287 --> 00:26:21,498 - [sighs] 644 00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:23,917 Nothing further. 645 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:25,460 - Let's adjourn for the day. 646 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:30,548 - The jury knows the mom legally overstepped. 647 00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:32,175 - I'm just not sure they care. 648 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,553 She was very sympathetic. 649 00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:37,055 - What, you're assuming the jury 650 00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:38,890 can't keep their emotions out of this? 651 00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:42,310 - No, I'm assuming they think the mother was suffering 652 00:26:42,477 --> 00:26:44,354 some sort of extreme emotional distress 653 00:26:44,479 --> 00:26:46,106 when she was confronted with how dangerously 654 00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:47,816 her daughter's cancer had spread. 655 00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:50,902 The girl was on the precipice of death. 656 00:26:50,944 --> 00:26:54,155 - Okay, Nolan, don't go soft on me. 657 00:26:54,239 --> 00:26:55,907 Okay? Not now. 658 00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:58,618 Look, I--I'm truly sorry for what that woman went through, 659 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:00,370 but no way did she lose her cool. 660 00:27:00,412 --> 00:27:02,038 [phone buzzes] 661 00:27:02,205 --> 00:27:04,082 [sighs] Well, 662 00:27:04,249 --> 00:27:05,458 get ready to contend 663 00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:08,628 with another sympathetic witness. 664 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:10,755 Lauren Massey's out of the hospital. 665 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:17,137 - Lauren, thank you for coming today. 666 00:27:17,178 --> 00:27:19,514 I know it took a lot to get here. 667 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:20,974 - It did. 668 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:23,810 But I'm just grateful to be alive, 669 00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:26,563 and I owe it to my mother. 670 00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:29,733 - Lauren, the jury has heard about Emily Starr's regimen, 671 00:27:29,774 --> 00:27:31,901 and there's been some speculation as to how and why 672 00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:33,653 you came to follow her advice. 673 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:36,698 Could you tell us in your own words? 674 00:27:39,576 --> 00:27:42,912 - I hated being a girl with a disease. 675 00:27:43,038 --> 00:27:46,207 Emily made it seem like 676 00:27:46,374 --> 00:27:48,793 there was an easy way to get better. 677 00:27:48,877 --> 00:27:53,590 The things the oncologist had told me 678 00:27:53,631 --> 00:27:56,301 didn't seem real. 679 00:27:56,343 --> 00:27:58,887 Emily preyed upon that, 680 00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:01,890 then made sure hers was the only voice I heard. 681 00:28:01,973 --> 00:28:04,559 Told me my cancer was gone. 682 00:28:06,686 --> 00:28:08,897 Do you understand how crazy that is? 683 00:28:10,815 --> 00:28:12,817 Did you show them the scans 684 00:28:12,901 --> 00:28:14,569 of what was going on inside me, 685 00:28:14,611 --> 00:28:17,405 the scans she prevented me from seeing? 686 00:28:19,824 --> 00:28:22,452 Thank God for my mother, 687 00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:24,496 or I wouldn't be here. 688 00:28:26,331 --> 00:28:27,624 - Thank you, Lauren. 689 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:29,376 Nothing further. 690 00:28:38,426 --> 00:28:40,428 Lauren... 691 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:44,474 I know you have been through a lot 692 00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:48,103 and clearly 693 00:28:48,186 --> 00:28:50,188 love your mother very much. 694 00:28:50,271 --> 00:28:51,940 - I do. 695 00:28:52,023 --> 00:28:54,317 - And you express dismay that Emily had lied to you, 696 00:28:54,401 --> 00:28:56,277 so I wanna give you a chance to be honest. 697 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,780 You were 19 when you decided to stop chemo 698 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:00,490 and follow Emily's health recommendations? 699 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,200 - Yes. 700 00:29:02,325 --> 00:29:06,287 - Of legal age to make medical decisions for yourself? 701 00:29:06,329 --> 00:29:07,622 - Yes. 702 00:29:07,706 --> 00:29:10,917 - Did Emily ever tell you she had medical training? 703 00:29:12,168 --> 00:29:13,294 - No. 704 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:17,048 - And you understood that your doctor 705 00:29:17,132 --> 00:29:21,469 had recommended chemo and radiation? 706 00:29:21,511 --> 00:29:23,346 - Yes. 707 00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:25,348 [tense music] 708 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,351 - Did Emily Starr 709 00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:30,270 ever lock you in a room? 710 00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:36,026 - No, but she restrained me 711 00:29:36,109 --> 00:29:37,819 psychologically. 712 00:29:37,944 --> 00:29:41,072 Told me to cut ties with anyone negative-- 713 00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:43,992 my parents, my doctor. 714 00:29:44,075 --> 00:29:48,538 She said their fearmongering would make my cancer worse. 715 00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:52,167 - And you believed her? 716 00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:55,170 ♪ ♪ 717 00:29:55,253 --> 00:29:57,088 - When you're sick, 718 00:29:57,213 --> 00:30:01,134 you want it to go away so badly. 719 00:30:02,594 --> 00:30:04,012 Any liar can own you. 720 00:30:06,222 --> 00:30:09,768 My actual doctor, he's not allowed to lie. 721 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:11,561 You all won't let him. 722 00:30:11,728 --> 00:30:14,689 He had to tell me the treatment was going to be awful. 723 00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:20,987 Why was Emily allowed to say anything? 724 00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:25,658 It almost cost me my life. 725 00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:31,831 I'm only better now because I finally saw the MRIs. 726 00:30:31,915 --> 00:30:34,292 I saw proof that my cancer had gotten worse 727 00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:37,295 under Emily's care. 728 00:30:37,379 --> 00:30:39,839 In all of this, 729 00:30:39,881 --> 00:30:41,925 my mother was the only person 730 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,053 willing to fight for me, 731 00:30:45,136 --> 00:30:47,013 to save me. 732 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,309 Please, 733 00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:53,561 don't punish her. 734 00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:56,898 [sniffles] 735 00:30:57,065 --> 00:31:00,860 ♪ ♪ 736 00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:02,904 - Nothing further. 737 00:31:03,071 --> 00:31:08,368 ♪ ♪ 738 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:17,919 . 739 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,921 - Tough witness. 740 00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,092 - Push too hard and it backfires. 741 00:31:24,134 --> 00:31:26,845 I can tell the jury feels really sorry 742 00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:28,972 for the daughter and the mom. 743 00:31:29,097 --> 00:31:31,433 [sighs] And frankly, Sam, I'm-- 744 00:31:31,516 --> 00:31:33,768 I'm feeling it myself. 745 00:31:33,852 --> 00:31:36,229 - It doesn't justify murder. 746 00:31:36,354 --> 00:31:39,691 - A TikTok star convincing a teenager with cancer 747 00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:42,610 to forgo life-saving treatment, that is bad enough. 748 00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:44,529 But preventing the girl from receiving 749 00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,323 critical medical information from an actual oncologist 750 00:31:47,365 --> 00:31:48,950 after she collapsed? 751 00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:51,619 - All she did was tell Lauren to stay off email. 752 00:31:51,661 --> 00:31:54,164 - And to avoid speaking with her parents. 753 00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:56,666 That's not free speech, Sam. That's coercion. 754 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:58,501 Emily Starr assumed a duty of care 755 00:31:58,543 --> 00:32:01,713 when Lauren was at her center, and she violated it. 756 00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:04,549 - So what, now you're saying that the mother was reasonable 757 00:32:04,674 --> 00:32:06,301 in believing that this was the only way 758 00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:07,719 to save her daughter's life? 759 00:32:07,802 --> 00:32:10,013 - Reasonable? No. 760 00:32:10,055 --> 00:32:12,682 Understandable? 761 00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:16,227 - Nolan, what happened to "the law is your compass"? 762 00:32:16,311 --> 00:32:18,104 - [sighs] 763 00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:23,693 My mother died of breast cancer. 764 00:32:23,735 --> 00:32:26,237 - I'm so sorry. I-- 765 00:32:26,363 --> 00:32:29,240 - The treatments, they were pretty brutal. 766 00:32:29,282 --> 00:32:31,326 She'd always been high-octane. 767 00:32:31,493 --> 00:32:32,535 She was a lawyer. 768 00:32:32,619 --> 00:32:35,330 She was a damn good one. 769 00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:38,708 She hated being so drained. 770 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:42,087 And then she started reading about homeopathic treatments. 771 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,590 Eventually, she fell for the hope pitch, 772 00:32:45,674 --> 00:32:47,008 stopped chemo for a few months. 773 00:32:47,050 --> 00:32:49,511 She got her hair back. She got some energy back. 774 00:32:49,594 --> 00:32:53,181 But that cost her... 775 00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:56,226 a year of her life. 776 00:32:56,351 --> 00:33:00,271 When you are that sick, you are vulnerable. 777 00:33:02,023 --> 00:33:03,191 - Yeah. 778 00:33:04,859 --> 00:33:06,861 But we need to get justice for Emily. 779 00:33:06,903 --> 00:33:08,697 - Yes. 780 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:13,284 But man one and 15 years is not a terrible outcome. 781 00:33:13,368 --> 00:33:15,954 - I'm not sure it's the just or appropriate outcome. 782 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,081 - Well, you wanna risk losing this whole thing 783 00:33:18,164 --> 00:33:20,291 to jury nullification? 784 00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:27,632 - I'll set up a meeting. 785 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,510 - Man one is a good offer, Carol. 786 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:34,431 - But it's an admission of guilt. 787 00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:36,641 - You killed an unarmed woman. 788 00:33:36,683 --> 00:33:39,060 - I saved my daughter's life. 789 00:33:39,144 --> 00:33:40,770 And I stand by the fact that 790 00:33:40,854 --> 00:33:43,273 Emily Starr's actions were deadly. 791 00:33:43,356 --> 00:33:45,233 - Mrs. Massey, I am sympathetic 792 00:33:45,275 --> 00:33:47,652 to the horrible situation that you faced. 793 00:33:47,777 --> 00:33:51,573 That's why we're here with an offer, a very fair offer. 794 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:53,742 If you decline, 795 00:33:53,825 --> 00:33:55,368 the charge goes back to murder two, 796 00:33:55,452 --> 00:33:59,080 which carries a minimum sentence of 15 years to life. 797 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:03,126 - Think about Lauren. 798 00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:04,961 Your daughter needs you. 799 00:34:05,045 --> 00:34:06,421 - I am thinking about Lauren, 800 00:34:06,504 --> 00:34:08,423 and all the other Laurens out there. 801 00:34:08,548 --> 00:34:11,051 Emily Starr's business is booming. 802 00:34:11,134 --> 00:34:12,344 This is dangerous. 803 00:34:12,385 --> 00:34:13,887 People need to know the truth. 804 00:34:15,388 --> 00:34:17,557 - Seems like a pretty emphatic no. 805 00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:18,767 Come on. 806 00:34:23,271 --> 00:34:24,522 - [sighs] 807 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,781 The verdict is a toss-up at best. 808 00:34:32,822 --> 00:34:35,033 I feel sorry for her, but I don't want anyone 809 00:34:35,075 --> 00:34:37,827 to walk for a crime like this. 810 00:34:37,869 --> 00:34:41,498 - If the jury is leaning into sympathy and emotion, 811 00:34:41,539 --> 00:34:42,791 let's play the game. 812 00:34:42,832 --> 00:34:44,501 - Meaning? 813 00:34:44,584 --> 00:34:46,503 - Emily had battled cancer herself, right? 814 00:34:46,586 --> 00:34:49,631 She went through the same fear, same struggle. 815 00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:51,508 - You wanna call a rebuttal witness? 816 00:34:51,591 --> 00:34:53,718 - Someone to remind the jury that Emily had 817 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,597 legitimate personal reasons for her unusual recommendations, 818 00:34:57,681 --> 00:34:59,641 that it wasn't about greed. 819 00:34:59,724 --> 00:35:02,894 It was about choices that worked for her. 820 00:35:02,936 --> 00:35:06,314 - In her book, Emily writes about her cancer support group 821 00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:08,525 back in Pennsylvania. 822 00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:10,235 - I'll find them. 823 00:35:14,447 --> 00:35:16,658 - I heard about the court case. 824 00:35:16,741 --> 00:35:19,869 I've just been too busy to follow it all. 825 00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:21,329 - Oh. 826 00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:24,207 I appreciate you taking the time to meet with me. 827 00:35:24,332 --> 00:35:28,169 We're trying to paint a full picture of Emily. 828 00:35:28,211 --> 00:35:31,006 It would be really useful to hear about her 829 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:32,882 back when she joined your support group. 830 00:35:32,924 --> 00:35:37,554 - Well, Emily, um... 831 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,556 bundle of energy and positivity. 832 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,101 [chuckles] It was really inspiring at first. 833 00:35:43,226 --> 00:35:46,187 You know, a lot of us were battling depression, 834 00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:48,523 struggling with our families. 835 00:35:48,606 --> 00:35:51,359 I had just lost my consulting job 836 00:35:51,484 --> 00:35:54,946 because I'd taken so much time off for treatments. 837 00:35:54,988 --> 00:35:56,906 Couldn't stay on my feet. 838 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:58,908 [breathes deeply] 839 00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:00,744 Emily got me feeling hopeful again. 840 00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:05,415 - You said it was, uh, inspiring at first. 841 00:36:05,498 --> 00:36:07,000 Did something change? 842 00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:09,502 - It's just... 843 00:36:09,627 --> 00:36:12,047 we'd all jumped in, drinking her teas and juices 844 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,215 but also doing our treatments. 845 00:36:14,299 --> 00:36:18,303 We felt a little better, but Emily-- 846 00:36:18,386 --> 00:36:19,721 she had adenocarcinoma. 847 00:36:19,888 --> 00:36:21,014 - Stomach cancer. 848 00:36:21,139 --> 00:36:22,349 - It's brutal. 849 00:36:22,432 --> 00:36:25,185 But she never had any weight loss, 850 00:36:25,268 --> 00:36:26,603 no abdominal pain, 851 00:36:26,686 --> 00:36:29,147 never even got tired. 852 00:36:29,272 --> 00:36:33,276 I mean, Emily Starr never did any wrong by me, 853 00:36:33,401 --> 00:36:36,279 but don't you think that's strange? 854 00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:40,116 [ominous music] 855 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,242 - Nope. 856 00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:43,119 No evidence of any tumor tissue, 857 00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:45,080 and not a single microscopic trace 858 00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:46,998 of a cancerous cell in her body. 859 00:36:47,082 --> 00:36:48,291 - And the stomach? 860 00:36:48,416 --> 00:36:50,001 - Was in excellent shape. 861 00:36:50,126 --> 00:36:51,753 You get a chance to talk to her diagnosing doctor? 862 00:36:51,878 --> 00:36:55,298 - No hospital within 200 miles of Emily's hometown, 863 00:36:55,382 --> 00:36:57,634 where she says she was diagnosed with cancer, 864 00:36:57,676 --> 00:37:00,637 has a record of ever admitting her for anything. 865 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,765 - Well, then I'm gonna say she didn't beat cancer. 866 00:37:03,932 --> 00:37:05,642 She never had it. 867 00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:08,186 ♪ ♪ 868 00:37:08,228 --> 00:37:10,021 - Thank you. - Thanks. 869 00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:16,152 ♪ ♪ 870 00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:20,448 Emily's whole foundational story was a lie? 871 00:37:22,951 --> 00:37:24,786 Jury is gonna loathe her, 872 00:37:24,869 --> 00:37:27,414 and quite possibly let the mom walk. 873 00:37:27,455 --> 00:37:30,166 - Wait, why does the jury need to know? 874 00:37:30,291 --> 00:37:32,502 This doesn't meet the Brady standard. 875 00:37:32,585 --> 00:37:35,005 - Sam, we've been in court defending Emily's right 876 00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:37,799 to share her theory of self-healing. 877 00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,634 - But it isn't exculpatory, and it sure as hell 878 00:37:39,676 --> 00:37:41,469 doesn't give the mom the right to gun her down. 879 00:37:41,553 --> 00:37:43,638 - No, of course it doesn't. 880 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,016 But it does show that Carol Massey's mistrust 881 00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:47,767 was warranted, that she was right to think 882 00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,602 that she was full of crap. 883 00:37:49,728 --> 00:37:52,355 And that, in my opinion, is favorable to the defense, 884 00:37:52,439 --> 00:37:55,692 and quite frankly, the jury should know this. 885 00:37:55,817 --> 00:37:58,069 And so should her followers sitting in court. 886 00:37:58,111 --> 00:38:00,405 - Nolan, like you always say, 887 00:38:00,447 --> 00:38:03,158 our job is to follow the law. 888 00:38:03,241 --> 00:38:05,326 And in my opinion, this information 889 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,454 is irrelevant to Carol Massey's defense. 890 00:38:07,537 --> 00:38:09,956 It has nothing to do with her daughter's imminent death. 891 00:38:12,042 --> 00:38:14,878 - So you think we should just sit on it? 892 00:38:14,961 --> 00:38:16,087 - Yes. 893 00:38:16,171 --> 00:38:18,673 [tense music] 894 00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:20,550 We have to. 895 00:38:20,633 --> 00:38:24,385 ♪ ♪ 896 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:26,598 ♪ ♪ 897 00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:30,518 - One thing is clear-- 898 00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:33,938 Carol Massey killed Emily Starr. 899 00:38:34,022 --> 00:38:37,901 And despite her extensive efforts to get away with it, 900 00:38:37,942 --> 00:38:39,319 she was caught. 901 00:38:39,402 --> 00:38:41,237 Once caught, she couldn't contest the evidence, 902 00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,365 so she told you 903 00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:45,992 she had to do it because Emily Starr 904 00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:48,536 was about to kill her daughter. 905 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:52,624 This young wellness influencer's 906 00:38:52,707 --> 00:38:56,878 unconventional ideas were, according to Carol Massey, 907 00:38:57,003 --> 00:38:58,755 tantamount to homicide. 908 00:38:58,838 --> 00:39:00,840 Fortunately for you, she's made your job easy 909 00:39:00,882 --> 00:39:04,177 because the law is crystal clear 910 00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:07,764 about what it considers a legitimate defense of others. 911 00:39:07,847 --> 00:39:11,935 The harm averted must be unlawful 912 00:39:11,976 --> 00:39:14,562 and imminent. 913 00:39:14,604 --> 00:39:18,400 In this case, neither standard was met. 914 00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:21,820 The defense called no expert to testify 915 00:39:21,903 --> 00:39:25,281 that Lauren was gonna die that night, or even that week. 916 00:39:25,323 --> 00:39:26,950 More important, 917 00:39:26,991 --> 00:39:29,619 Emily broke no laws 918 00:39:29,661 --> 00:39:31,496 in advising Lauren. 919 00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:34,708 In fact, for seven years as an active influencer, 920 00:39:34,791 --> 00:39:37,585 not a single civil or criminal charge was brought against her. 921 00:39:39,629 --> 00:39:43,258 You wanna know what unlawful physical force looks like? 922 00:39:43,299 --> 00:39:44,968 It's this. 923 00:39:45,010 --> 00:39:48,513 [tense music] 924 00:39:48,596 --> 00:39:51,016 That is the person who needed protecting that night-- 925 00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:54,185 a young woman walking home from her own party 926 00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:57,605 when a gun was put to her head. 927 00:39:57,647 --> 00:40:00,108 And none of us could offer her that protection, 928 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:02,402 but we can 929 00:40:02,485 --> 00:40:06,531 offer her justice. 930 00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:09,909 It's okay to empathize and 931 00:40:09,951 --> 00:40:12,662 to sympathize with Carol Massey. 932 00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:14,497 I do. 933 00:40:14,622 --> 00:40:18,835 But you cannot let her get away with murder. 934 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:25,967 ♪ ♪ 935 00:40:28,386 --> 00:40:31,473 - Members of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 936 00:40:31,598 --> 00:40:33,016 - We have, Your Honor. 937 00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:35,518 On the count of murder in the second degree, 938 00:40:35,602 --> 00:40:36,561 we find the defendant... 939 00:40:36,644 --> 00:40:38,897 guilty. 940 00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:41,232 - Members of the jury, we thank you for your service. 941 00:40:41,316 --> 00:40:42,859 We are adjourned. 942 00:40:42,984 --> 00:40:45,528 [gavel bangs] - Mom! 943 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:46,863 - I'm sorry. 944 00:40:46,905 --> 00:40:47,906 I'm so sorry. 945 00:40:47,989 --> 00:40:50,075 [somber music] 946 00:40:50,158 --> 00:40:53,453 ♪ ♪ 947 00:40:53,536 --> 00:40:55,246 - Mr. Price, 948 00:40:55,288 --> 00:40:57,123 we wanted to thank you 949 00:40:57,207 --> 00:40:59,542 for getting Emily justice. 950 00:40:59,626 --> 00:41:03,838 ♪ ♪ 951 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,384 - As a great prosecutor once told me, 952 00:41:07,467 --> 00:41:10,011 a good person killing a bad person 953 00:41:10,136 --> 00:41:12,222 is still murder. 954 00:41:12,305 --> 00:41:19,270 ♪ ♪ 955 00:41:26,027 --> 00:41:28,905 [dramatic music] 956 00:41:28,988 --> 00:41:35,954 ♪ ♪ 957 00:41:56,141 --> 00:41:59,060 [wolf howls]