1 00:00:01,769 --> 00:00:04,403 the people are represented 2 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,038 by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:07,041 --> 00:00:09,258 The police, who investigate crime 4 00:00:09,259 --> 00:00:11,476 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,479 These are their stories. 6 00:00:16,017 --> 00:00:20,152 DEMONSTRATORS: Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 7 00:00:20,154 --> 00:00:27,092 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 8 00:00:27,094 --> 00:00:29,294 Do they ever get bored? 9 00:00:29,296 --> 00:00:30,462 The true believers? 10 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:32,031 Not on your life. 11 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:38,237 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 12 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:41,607 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 13 00:00:41,609 --> 00:00:45,344 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 14 00:00:45,346 --> 00:00:49,214 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 15 00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:52,351 Don't kill your babies! Abortion is a sin! 16 00:00:52,353 --> 00:00:54,153 Don't kill your babies! 17 00:00:57,224 --> 00:00:59,124 WOMAN: Past 24 weeks? 18 00:00:59,126 --> 00:01:00,392 We can't help you. 19 00:01:00,394 --> 00:01:02,628 Well, I'm not sure. 20 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:06,131 Okay, fill this out and you can see the nurse. 21 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:07,132 ( phone ringing ) 22 00:01:07,134 --> 00:01:09,368 Women's Choices. 23 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:12,438 God! Not again. 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,407 ...so my father says, 25 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:16,375 "if you weren't a cop, you'd get a husband. 26 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:18,410 Who told you to be a cop?" 27 00:01:18,412 --> 00:01:19,511 And my mother says, 28 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,413 "I told her to be a cop 29 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:23,415 "so she wouldn't have to worry 30 00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:25,150 about getting a husband." 31 00:01:25,152 --> 00:01:26,518 You could always marry me. 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,521 You're not what my father had in mind. 33 00:01:29,523 --> 00:01:32,157 DISPATCH: 27 Adam, respond to 312 West 19th 34 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:35,661 Chelsea Women's Choices regarding bomb threat. Advise. 35 00:01:35,663 --> 00:01:39,264 We are at that location and will advise further. 36 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:40,399 MAN: Come on, let's go. 37 00:01:40,401 --> 00:01:42,401 WOMAN: I knew this would happen. 38 00:01:42,403 --> 00:01:43,669 Don't panic. 39 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:45,671 It'll be all right. 40 00:01:45,673 --> 00:01:47,306 Take it easy. 41 00:01:47,308 --> 00:01:48,440 Don't stop. 42 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:49,675 Out. Now. 43 00:01:49,677 --> 00:01:52,111 That's everybody. 44 00:01:58,486 --> 00:02:00,486 ( explosion thunders ) 45 00:02:00,488 --> 00:02:02,588 ( alarm bell ringing ) 46 00:03:06,487 --> 00:03:10,556 Captioning sponsored by NBC/Universal 47 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:30,275 ( sirens wailing ) 48 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:34,947 I'm only asking 49 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:37,716 if you saw anybody carrying something-- 50 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:39,985 a knapsack, a package, a large bag-- 51 00:03:39,987 --> 00:03:42,254 anything out of the ordinary. 52 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:45,724 Yo! 53 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:47,292 Good morning, Vietnam. 54 00:03:47,294 --> 00:03:48,594 What do we got? 55 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:50,596 Your garden variety lunatic-- 56 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:52,597 blowing up a room with a lot of ladies in it. 57 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,298 The bomb. 58 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,801 Your basic pipe. 59 00:03:55,803 --> 00:03:58,403 Fertilizer and diesel? 60 00:03:58,405 --> 00:03:59,605 You got it-- 61 00:03:59,607 --> 00:04:00,906 amateur hour. 62 00:04:00,908 --> 00:04:02,941 Terrific! The only thing I like more than a bomber 63 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,009 is an amateur bomber. 64 00:04:04,011 --> 00:04:06,278 Timer? Quartz alarm clock 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,680 straight out of The Revolutionary Cookbook. 66 00:04:08,682 --> 00:04:11,283 Yeah, well, if that's the main course, 67 00:04:11,285 --> 00:04:12,718 I can't wait to see dessert. 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,621 There won't be any dessert for this one. 69 00:04:15,623 --> 00:04:17,322 Student I.D. 70 00:04:17,324 --> 00:04:18,991 University of Manhattan. 71 00:04:18,993 --> 00:04:22,027 Sandra Turner... 21, 22 maybe. 72 00:04:22,029 --> 00:04:24,630 She was in the bathroom. 73 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:26,732 Was she here for an abortion? 74 00:04:26,734 --> 00:04:28,634 Doesn't play that way. 75 00:04:28,636 --> 00:04:30,002 She didn't sign in. 76 00:04:30,004 --> 00:04:31,970 Nobody saw her. 77 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:34,773 Looks like she was the delivery girl 78 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:37,342 but she didn't get out quick enough. 79 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:39,845 Put her right through the wall. 80 00:04:39,847 --> 00:04:41,913 We get calls all the time. 81 00:04:41,915 --> 00:04:43,749 False alarms, but still, we get everybody out. 82 00:04:43,751 --> 00:04:45,917 And did you recognize the voice on the phone before? 83 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:47,653 She only said, "bomb." 84 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:49,788 How could I recognize her voice? 85 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:51,390 What about the girl in the bathroom-- Turner. 86 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:52,758 She fill out a form? 87 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:56,862 No way. I didn't see her. 88 00:04:56,864 --> 00:04:58,363 She wasn't a patient. 89 00:04:58,365 --> 00:05:00,966 They can't wait to talk to somebody. 90 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:04,936 She must have carried the bomb in. 91 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:08,006 What is wrong with these people? 92 00:05:08,008 --> 00:05:10,776 Sooner or later, had to happen. 93 00:05:10,778 --> 00:05:12,044 As long as the courts 94 00:05:12,046 --> 00:05:14,046 keep refusing to act against abortion, 95 00:05:14,048 --> 00:05:16,048 there are gonna be individuals... 96 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:18,016 What, are you defending these nuts? 97 00:05:18,018 --> 00:05:20,686 Come on! This ain't lone justice. 98 00:05:20,688 --> 00:05:21,887 It's a conspiracy. 99 00:05:21,889 --> 00:05:23,388 They can't stop abortion through the courts, 100 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:24,790 so they'll bomb a few clinics. 101 00:05:24,792 --> 00:05:26,024 We don't know that. 102 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:27,326 We don't? 103 00:05:27,328 --> 00:05:28,544 Well, I don't remember reading anything 104 00:05:28,545 --> 00:05:29,761 about a cellular phone in the bathroom. 105 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:31,763 Somebody called in a warning. 106 00:05:31,765 --> 00:05:33,765 Two people make a conspiracy. 107 00:05:33,767 --> 00:05:35,334 Look, all I'm saying 108 00:05:35,336 --> 00:05:38,770 is I understand why they're frustrated. 109 00:05:38,772 --> 00:05:40,906 Max, a girl's dead. 110 00:05:40,908 --> 00:05:43,342 She was 22 years old. 111 00:05:43,344 --> 00:05:45,377 Tell them to write their congressman, not throw bombs. 112 00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:46,912 I'm only saying 113 00:05:46,914 --> 00:05:48,914 they believe in something and they're angry. 114 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:50,432 They're angry?! 115 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:51,949 So they send a girl in there with a bomb? 116 00:05:51,952 --> 00:05:53,051 In my book, 117 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:56,455 that is not frustration, that's murder. 118 00:05:59,793 --> 00:06:02,427 Eight bombings in the last seven months, 119 00:06:02,429 --> 00:06:04,413 all of 'em at night. 120 00:06:04,414 --> 00:06:06,398 None of them happened in the daytime. 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,734 Nobody was hurt before, either. 122 00:06:08,736 --> 00:06:12,738 We got six active anti-abortion protest groups 123 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:14,973 with offices in Manhattan. 124 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:19,878 Let's see if the M.E.'s got an I.D., 125 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,913 then we'll start on these. 126 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:25,450 Whatever she used, it did a real job on her. 127 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:27,119 Anybody come to I.D. her? 128 00:06:27,121 --> 00:06:28,754 LOGAN: No prints? 129 00:06:28,756 --> 00:06:30,756 Epithelial layer's gone. 130 00:06:30,758 --> 00:06:33,125 I could get better prints from charcoal. 131 00:06:33,127 --> 00:06:35,761 You'll have a preliminary report tomorrow, but, uh... 132 00:06:35,763 --> 00:06:40,432 there's not much doubt about the C.O.D. 133 00:06:44,772 --> 00:06:47,072 That's it? Cash? No wallet? 134 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:50,409 Just the university I.D. 135 00:06:57,851 --> 00:07:01,486 Nobody on this student number. 136 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:05,791 LOGAN: Try "Turner, Sandra." 137 00:07:05,793 --> 00:07:09,494 We haven't had six-digit I.D.'s in two years. 138 00:07:09,496 --> 00:07:13,932 "Turner, Samuel... Turner, Sheila..." 139 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:16,201 no "Turner, Sandra." 140 00:07:16,203 --> 00:07:19,938 But this is the university's card. 141 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:21,072 No, it isn't. 142 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:23,508 This picture is glued on. 143 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:24,810 It's a fake. 144 00:07:24,812 --> 00:07:26,812 The real ones are like a license-- 145 00:07:26,814 --> 00:07:28,814 all one piece. 146 00:07:28,816 --> 00:07:31,082 Back to square one. 147 00:07:31,084 --> 00:07:34,519 Let's hit some of those anti-abortion groups. 148 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:35,821 "O" for three. 149 00:07:35,823 --> 00:07:37,956 Number four, "Women for Life," 150 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:40,025 headed by Rose Schwimmer. 151 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:47,232 Our battle isn't about restoring Central Park 152 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:49,835 or a 15ยข increase in the subway fare 153 00:07:49,837 --> 00:07:51,069 or separating cans 154 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:53,038 and bottles from our trash. 155 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,573 It's about human life. 156 00:07:54,575 --> 00:07:57,476 Sometimes people go out of bounds. 157 00:07:57,478 --> 00:08:00,178 Do you ever go out of bounds? 158 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:01,213 All the time. 159 00:08:01,215 --> 00:08:03,248 That's why I'm here. 160 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:04,549 You're here to break the law? 161 00:08:04,551 --> 00:08:06,885 I'm here to stop the murder of babies. 162 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:09,254 Look, let's get this clear. 163 00:08:09,256 --> 00:08:12,624 Abortion is a right in this country. 164 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:15,527 Okay? That clinic was performing 165 00:08:15,529 --> 00:08:17,996 a legal and medical procedure. 166 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,499 They weren't murdering anything. 167 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:22,267 Mrs. Schwimmer, 168 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:24,903 a girl is dead. 169 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:27,939 The clinic is just a couple of minutes away from here. 170 00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:30,575 I'm horrified by what happened. 171 00:08:30,577 --> 00:08:33,645 But you sympathize, don't you? 172 00:08:33,647 --> 00:08:36,214 I mean, with people who bomb abortion clinics? 173 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:39,918 I don't condone violence, but I understand. 174 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,555 Does a woman named Sandra Turner belong to your group? 175 00:08:43,557 --> 00:08:46,591 Would you hand me that folder over there, please? 176 00:08:47,895 --> 00:08:50,562 We have over 2,000 active members, 177 00:08:50,564 --> 00:08:53,565 and a couple thousand more come to our vigils 178 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:56,101 and send contributions. 179 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:59,170 No Sandra Turner. 180 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:00,605 Where were you 181 00:09:00,607 --> 00:09:03,174 when the bomb went off? 182 00:09:03,176 --> 00:09:04,876 Why? 183 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:07,279 People from your group were picketing that day. 184 00:09:07,281 --> 00:09:10,649 Am I a suspect, Detective? 185 00:09:12,286 --> 00:09:16,321 Lazy Jane's, around the corner, having tea. 186 00:09:18,325 --> 00:09:21,059 I guess when you go against the system, the way we do, 187 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,562 you're guilty until proven innocent. 188 00:09:25,599 --> 00:09:27,299 She comes every Wednesday. 189 00:09:27,301 --> 00:09:28,934 Rose Schwimmer. 190 00:09:28,936 --> 00:09:31,336 She came in between 10:00 and 11:00. 191 00:09:31,338 --> 00:09:33,071 Are you sure of the time? 192 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,307 Why do you think it's called Lazy Jane's? 193 00:09:35,309 --> 00:09:37,342 I don't get in till 10:00. 194 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,077 So, what, she came right after you? 195 00:09:39,079 --> 00:09:41,380 10:15, 10:30. 196 00:09:41,381 --> 00:09:43,682 Her friend came in a couple of minutes later. 197 00:09:44,318 --> 00:09:46,217 The friend a regular too? 198 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:48,620 Semi-- couple of times a month. 199 00:09:48,622 --> 00:09:50,221 You know the look-- 200 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:53,358 Raggedy Ann with a Bendel's charge card. 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,360 She's a real pro shopper. 202 00:09:55,362 --> 00:09:57,662 She had this big box with her. 203 00:09:57,664 --> 00:09:58,964 A box? 204 00:09:58,966 --> 00:10:01,232 She put it right on the table. 205 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:02,968 Can you believe that? 206 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:05,670 I mean, it was the size of a toaster oven. 207 00:10:05,672 --> 00:10:07,372 I put it on the chair. 208 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:09,074 This isn't a diner. 209 00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:13,345 Watch-- five years, they'll legalize drugs. 210 00:10:13,347 --> 00:10:14,679 Maybe, maybe not. 211 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:16,681 It's a great country, Max. 212 00:10:16,683 --> 00:10:18,183 You can do what you want, 213 00:10:18,185 --> 00:10:19,684 when you want, with who you want. 214 00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:22,354 Which means if a woman wants an abortion 215 00:10:22,356 --> 00:10:23,688 she can get one. 216 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:25,290 Just because she was careless enough 217 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:27,359 to get knocked up in the first place? 218 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:29,995 Are you against abortions, or sex? 219 00:10:29,997 --> 00:10:31,363 Abortions. I like sex. 220 00:10:31,365 --> 00:10:33,682 So, a 17-year-old 221 00:10:33,683 --> 00:10:36,000 should louse up her whole life by having a kid? 222 00:10:36,003 --> 00:10:38,703 A 17-year-old shouldn't be doing what makes babies. 223 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:41,006 And crooks shouldn't have guns! Get real! 224 00:10:41,008 --> 00:10:43,408 Come on! What they should be is more careful. 225 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:47,345 Kids aren't careful. That's why they're kids. 226 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:51,216 Mrs. Schwimmer didn't mention 227 00:10:51,218 --> 00:10:55,220 that she had tea with Miss Toaster Oven. 228 00:10:55,222 --> 00:10:56,354 I get it. 229 00:10:56,356 --> 00:11:00,025 Now every pro-life protester is a bomber? 230 00:11:00,027 --> 00:11:03,161 You agree with them, don't you. 231 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:04,429 Okay, Don Juan. 232 00:11:04,431 --> 00:11:08,166 Any of your girlfriends ever have an abortion? 233 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:09,434 One ex-girlfriend 234 00:11:09,436 --> 00:11:12,037 who's now married with two kids-- 235 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:13,672 neither of them mine. 236 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:24,315 I really don't have time for this. 237 00:11:24,317 --> 00:11:25,750 Yeah, well, I hate to bother you, 238 00:11:25,752 --> 00:11:28,319 but it is a little weird that no one saw her. 239 00:11:28,321 --> 00:11:31,056 Really? If I was planting a bomb 240 00:11:31,058 --> 00:11:33,324 I'd sure try to be invisible. 241 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:35,193 That's all the cards. 242 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,195 There's no Sandra Turner. 243 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,330 I told you she didn't sign in. 244 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:42,267 How much does an abortion cost? 245 00:11:42,269 --> 00:11:44,469 Three hundred dollars. 246 00:11:45,439 --> 00:11:49,207 300 bucks-- the price of a cheap Mob hit. 247 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:52,043 Hey, Max, look at that. 248 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:54,746 GREEVEY: Yo! How many they take away? 249 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:57,115 12, 15. 250 00:11:57,117 --> 00:12:00,085 Let's go to the property clerk's office 251 00:12:00,087 --> 00:12:02,487 and pick up the dead girl's keys. 252 00:12:08,462 --> 00:12:11,329 We got two right here. 253 00:12:11,331 --> 00:12:15,433 Ooh! Whoa! 254 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,103 How sweet it is. 255 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:19,871 I could get used to driving this. 256 00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:22,507 On your salary, you couldn't afford the repairs. 257 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:26,111 On my salary, I couldn't even afford the insurance. 258 00:12:26,113 --> 00:12:27,746 Bingo! 259 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:33,284 "Chelsea Women's Choices Center." 260 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:35,420 Let's get the crime scene unit down here. 261 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,522 Maybe we'll get lucky and pull some prints. 262 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:38,790 Yeah. 263 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:39,824 Come on. 264 00:12:39,826 --> 00:12:42,127 Don't give yourself an ulcer. 265 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:48,466 Four twenty-two. 266 00:12:56,810 --> 00:12:58,409 ( knocking ) 267 00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:03,548 Mr. Donovan? 268 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:05,383 Yes? 269 00:13:05,384 --> 00:13:07,217 Sergeant Greevey, Detective Logan. 270 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 When she didn't come home last night, 271 00:13:15,562 --> 00:13:18,429 we tried to file a missing person report. 272 00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:20,431 They wouldn't take it. 273 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:23,234 They said we had to wait two days. 274 00:13:41,855 --> 00:13:44,522 ( moaning ) 275 00:13:46,459 --> 00:13:49,861 Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. 276 00:13:49,863 --> 00:13:52,263 Thy kingdom come, thy will be done 277 00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:54,165 on earth, as it is in Heaven. 278 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:56,835 Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, 279 00:13:56,837 --> 00:13:58,203 as we forgive those who trespass... 280 00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:05,510 Your daughter-- ( clears throat ) 281 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:07,612 did she belong to a right-to-life group? 282 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:11,115 The thing about Mary... 283 00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,517 she loves kids. 284 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,485 That's why she teaches. 285 00:14:14,487 --> 00:14:16,187 Did Mary ever mention 286 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:18,056 Women for Life? 287 00:14:18,058 --> 00:14:21,059 FATHER: She was sympathetic to their work, their ideals. 288 00:14:21,061 --> 00:14:22,560 We all are. 289 00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:26,531 Did anyone tell the school Mary wouldn't be in today? 290 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,399 It's okay, Barbara. 291 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:32,136 Could Mary have, without your knowledge... 292 00:14:32,138 --> 00:14:35,473 Mary didn't keep secrets from us. 293 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:39,477 We know how hard it is 294 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:43,114 but we'd like to look at Mary's room. 295 00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:46,117 Mary has a thing about privacy. 296 00:14:46,119 --> 00:14:48,553 Barbara, it doesn't matter 297 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:51,522 if they go into her room now. 298 00:14:55,128 --> 00:14:57,428 The Lives of the Saints. 299 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:59,564 22 years old. 300 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:03,534 Who sends a kid to deliver a bomb? 301 00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:08,439 Maybe it was her own idea. 302 00:15:08,441 --> 00:15:10,174 Yeah? 303 00:15:10,176 --> 00:15:12,577 Who taught her how to make one? 304 00:15:12,579 --> 00:15:15,914 Whoever it was, they should've taught her about timers. 305 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:18,583 The mother seems to be taking it pretty hard. 306 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,185 It's going to take a while. 307 00:15:21,187 --> 00:15:23,554 What, to realize that her daughter is dead? 308 00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:26,190 To realize she didn't die with her. 309 00:15:26,192 --> 00:15:29,928 Father doesn't seem to be having that problem. 310 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:31,562 That's because 311 00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:34,332 he didn't lose a daughter... 312 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:36,634 he gained a martyr. 313 00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:40,672 Hey. 314 00:15:40,674 --> 00:15:44,575 Looks like the brother owns a lumber company. 315 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:48,579 Lumber... construction. 316 00:15:48,581 --> 00:15:52,583 Construction... explosives. 317 00:15:52,585 --> 00:15:56,321 Anything you can tell us about Mary's friends, 318 00:15:56,323 --> 00:15:58,957 teachers she was close to? 319 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:00,959 My father... 320 00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:04,228 poured himself a cup of coffee this morning 321 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:07,365 put in milk, sugar, walked over to the sink, 322 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:09,634 poured it down the drain. 323 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:12,503 He didn't know what the hell he was doing. 324 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:15,640 I got on the West Side Highway on my way here. 325 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:17,608 I forgot to get off. 326 00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:21,446 Went the whole way to 96th Street. 327 00:16:21,448 --> 00:16:26,484 Just like that, I had a sister and now I don't. 328 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:29,654 Was there only the two of you? 329 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:32,991 Mary always said she'd have a big family. 330 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:36,661 What about these anti-abortion groups? 331 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:38,396 She loved kids. 332 00:16:38,398 --> 00:16:41,632 She belong to any organized groups? 333 00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:43,434 Mr. Donovan, 334 00:16:43,436 --> 00:16:45,003 bombing is a felony. 335 00:16:45,005 --> 00:16:47,238 Fine! I think Mary's paid for her crime in full. 336 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,473 Don't you, Detective? 337 00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:51,476 We don't happen to think she was in this alone. 338 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:55,313 Don't you want the people who helped to kill your sister 339 00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:56,581 to pay too? 340 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:59,017 If she was the member of a group, 341 00:16:59,019 --> 00:17:01,719 she never mentioned it to me. 342 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:07,492 They might know more at school-- St. Aloysius. 343 00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:11,429 Some people take a long time to grow up. 344 00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:13,398 Have a seat. 345 00:17:14,601 --> 00:17:17,635 They still believe in hearts and flowers 346 00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:20,505 and Mom never looks at another guy. 347 00:17:20,507 --> 00:17:23,608 Dad doesn't cheat on his income tax. 348 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:25,576 For 22, Mary was... young. 349 00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:27,745 Young enough to let somebody 350 00:17:27,747 --> 00:17:30,515 talk her into throwing a bomb? 351 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:34,218 Gentlemen, a parochial school like this, it's... 352 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:35,686 it's another century. 353 00:17:35,688 --> 00:17:39,290 Mary was a sweet kid. 354 00:17:39,292 --> 00:17:41,626 She believed that the whole world was parochial school. 355 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:43,294 That all the problems could be solved 356 00:17:43,296 --> 00:17:44,662 with pure thoughts and a rosary. 357 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:46,564 Did, uh... 358 00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:48,699 did you know that she wasn't going to be here yesterday? 359 00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:50,435 Day off. 360 00:17:50,437 --> 00:17:51,502 Regular day off? 361 00:17:51,504 --> 00:17:53,571 No; you know how hard it is 362 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:55,807 to get good teachers these days? 363 00:17:55,809 --> 00:17:58,676 They ask for a day off, they get it. 364 00:17:58,678 --> 00:18:00,511 Did she happen 365 00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:02,246 to tell you why? 366 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,614 Well, she'd been upset. 367 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:06,617 I figured it was her boyfriend, Patrick Dunne. 368 00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:08,319 He teaches here. 369 00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:09,654 Eighth grade Latin. 370 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:12,356 Last week, they had an argument in the hallway, 371 00:18:12,358 --> 00:18:14,892 in front of the kids. 372 00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:17,427 I had to tell them this is not appropriate behavior. 373 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,597 She shouldn't have been there. 374 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,332 It's crazy. 375 00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:22,600 So, Patrick, 376 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,436 this fight you had last week-- 377 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:27,605 what was that all about? 378 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,607 Some article in the Times. 379 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:32,610 Connecticut's abortion law. 380 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,579 Mary hated abortion. 381 00:18:34,581 --> 00:18:36,514 Hated it. 382 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,782 You? 383 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,617 Why? 384 00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:45,656 Personally, I think it's a sin and I think it's immoral 385 00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:48,693 but I live in the real world. 386 00:18:48,695 --> 00:18:51,529 Did she ever mention a woman 387 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:53,764 named Rose Schwimmer? 388 00:18:53,766 --> 00:18:55,900 Women for Life. 389 00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:59,770 Everyone knows who she is. 390 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:02,406 If you're asking whether I carry 391 00:19:02,408 --> 00:19:05,376 false identification, Detectives, the answer is no. 392 00:19:05,378 --> 00:19:07,378 I'm proud of what I do. 393 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:08,713 Anybody in your group have any? 394 00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:10,748 Please. Thank you. 395 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:17,922 This movement attracts deeply committed individuals. 396 00:19:17,924 --> 00:19:20,391 They get arrested. 397 00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:24,395 Some carry false identification and jump bail. 398 00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:25,763 And Mary Donovan? 399 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:28,699 Obviously deeply committed. 400 00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:30,701 But you didn't even know her. 401 00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:32,670 No, I didn't. 402 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:35,640 But what I do know is that Mary Donovan, 403 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,642 whoever she was, 404 00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:40,912 sacrificed herself to save the unborn. 405 00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:42,780 Hundreds of them. 406 00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:45,616 I don't approve of her methods 407 00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:47,652 but I applaud her results. 408 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:50,721 The day of the bombing, when you had brunch, 409 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:53,658 you didn't mention someone else being there... 410 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:56,694 who happened to be carrying a large package. 411 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:59,797 This morning, i had breakfast with my sister. 412 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,433 She carried an umbrella. 413 00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:04,802 I didn't tell you that either. 414 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:06,704 Loo, we're just trying 415 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:08,673 to do our job here. 416 00:20:08,675 --> 00:20:11,375 We have to verify alibis. 417 00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:14,879 I had brunch with an associate, Celeste McClure. 418 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:17,715 Uh, this Miss McClure-- 419 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:21,485 you know where we can find her? 420 00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:22,853 Today? 421 00:20:22,855 --> 00:20:24,755 Probably at the community garden, 422 00:20:24,757 --> 00:20:26,691 near the stables on 89th Street. 423 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:29,427 Just came from the printer. 424 00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,664 Great, isn't it? 425 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:36,234 It's wonderful. 426 00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:39,704 It depends on what you're selling. 427 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,774 You're mistaken, Detective. 428 00:20:43,776 --> 00:20:47,678 I didn't know Mary Donovan, but I wish I had. 429 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,413 What she did-- 430 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,781 it makes me proud. 431 00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:52,683 Throwing a bomb? 432 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:55,786 Innocent people could've been killed. 433 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:57,755 In that building, 434 00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:00,758 before Mary Donovan threw that bomb, 435 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,861 unborn babies were being killed every day. 436 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:06,731 At Lazy Jane's, when you had brunch with Rose Schwimmer, 437 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:09,500 what was in the box you had? 438 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,969 Leaflets. For protesters. 439 00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:13,704 I'm trying to save lives. 440 00:21:13,706 --> 00:21:15,606 You're supposed to save lives. 441 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:17,775 We're investigating... 442 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:19,943 A woman who gave her life in the only cause that counts. 443 00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:21,012 Look, nobody's trying... 444 00:21:21,014 --> 00:21:22,813 You wear a wedding ring. 445 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:24,815 You have children? 446 00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:28,719 Would you want your daughter or your wife 447 00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:31,022 to have an abortion? 448 00:21:31,024 --> 00:21:32,790 No, 449 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:36,527 but I wouldn't want them tossing bombs either. 450 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:40,731 If you don't have any more questions, 451 00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:42,800 I have work to do. 452 00:21:50,743 --> 00:21:52,510 Hmm, ammonium nitrate. 453 00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:55,646 Now all she needs is the diesel fuel. 454 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:58,649 Hey, you know, that's a good question she asked 455 00:21:58,651 --> 00:21:59,784 about your daughter. 456 00:21:59,786 --> 00:22:01,585 Suppose some boyfriend knocked her up? 457 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,987 Look... we are not 458 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:04,389 investigating my daughter, 459 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:05,790 my sex life with my wife, 460 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:08,592 or my opinions on contraception! 461 00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:10,828 We are investigating the bombing of an abortion clinic. 462 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:12,930 Let's just stick to the job, all right? 463 00:22:17,737 --> 00:22:20,338 MAN: Petersen's 121-- nitrate. 464 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:22,740 Where'd you get that? 465 00:22:22,742 --> 00:22:25,743 What, I don't look like I have a green thumb to you? 466 00:22:25,745 --> 00:22:28,012 You must be one hell of a gardener. 467 00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:29,880 You grow palm trees in your backyard? 468 00:22:29,882 --> 00:22:31,749 This stuff's for tropical plants. 469 00:22:31,751 --> 00:22:32,850 New York? 470 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:35,052 A big item in Hawaii. 471 00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:41,759 Quite a record Miss Schwimmer's 472 00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:43,627 got here, huh? 473 00:22:43,629 --> 00:22:45,896 Trespassing, disturbing the peace, 474 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:47,631 harassment. 475 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:51,535 For such a "non-violent person," she sure does get around. 476 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:53,137 I've seen armed robbers 477 00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:57,675 who got shorter rap sheets than this. 478 00:22:57,677 --> 00:23:00,945 McClure's got nothing but a dismissed trespass. 479 00:23:00,947 --> 00:23:02,713 It's a big step 480 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:04,949 from there to armed robbery. 481 00:23:04,951 --> 00:23:06,050 Yeah? Well, Donovan's completely clean. 482 00:23:06,052 --> 00:23:08,403 She doesn't even have a traffic ticket. 483 00:23:08,404 --> 00:23:10,755 But she was willing to go all the way up to arson and murder, 484 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:13,274 even with Mr. Clean for her boyfriend. 485 00:23:13,275 --> 00:23:15,792 The methods are wrong, but they're trying to prevent... 486 00:23:15,795 --> 00:23:17,862 Come on, spare me the rhetoric, all right, man? 487 00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:19,964 I don't consider abortion murder. 488 00:23:19,966 --> 00:23:22,633 If a woman wants one, that's her right to choose. 489 00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:23,801 Not yours, not mine 490 00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,903 and certainly not Miss Rose Schwimmer. 491 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:28,572 I don't care what you believe, 492 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:31,075 trying to prevent abortions by bombing 493 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:32,777 goes way too far-- I don't even know 494 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:34,678 how you can even sit here and defend it! 495 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,714 You and I both know they didn't mean to hurt... 496 00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:38,682 No, I don't know that, okay?! 497 00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:40,584 Only an idiot thinks 498 00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:41,919 bombs don't hurt people! 499 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:43,621 Come on, tell me more-- come on! 500 00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:44,922 Lab report just came in. 501 00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:46,824 The fertilizer's a match 502 00:23:46,826 --> 00:23:49,927 on the bomb, and they got a bunch of good, latent prints 503 00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:51,913 on the bag-- all the same woman. 504 00:23:51,914 --> 00:23:53,898 And they're a match for the partial on the bomb fragment. 505 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:57,067 Now, if you two could manage not to kill each other, 506 00:23:57,069 --> 00:24:00,805 maybe you could pick up McClure and see if her prints match. 507 00:24:08,481 --> 00:24:10,181 We're not saying it's a slam dunk. 508 00:24:10,183 --> 00:24:12,817 Slam dunk?! A bag of fertilizer and a couple of prints? 509 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:14,919 Right now, I'd have a hard time convicting Celeste McClure 510 00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:16,554 of bad gardening. 511 00:24:16,555 --> 00:24:18,188 I'm trying to make this work beyond just an indictment. 512 00:24:18,191 --> 00:24:20,524 You don't like it, don't file. 513 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:22,193 That's just fine with me. 514 00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:25,062 You in favor of people planting bombs, Sargeant? 515 00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,097 Careful, Counselor. 516 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:28,666 All I'm saying 517 00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:31,068 is that these women are true believers, 518 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:33,504 and, so far, they've hurt no one but each other. 519 00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:35,873 Yeah, talk about dumb luck. 520 00:24:38,211 --> 00:24:40,478 Gentlemen. 521 00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:46,083 McClure made the bomb. 522 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,151 Donovan muled it. 523 00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:48,986 Schwimmer ordered it. 524 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,221 You want my advice? 525 00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:52,056 Offer McClure a plea. 526 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:53,157 She'll take it. 527 00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:55,159 She wants to be a martyr. 528 00:24:56,996 --> 00:25:00,498 JUDGE: Celeste McClure, the charges are conspiracy 529 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:03,234 in the third degree, reckless endangerment 530 00:25:03,236 --> 00:25:07,104 in the second degree, arson in the second degree. 531 00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:08,939 How does the defendant plead on the first count? 532 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,908 Not guilty on all counts, Your Honor. 533 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:13,244 We request release of the defendant on her own recognizance. 534 00:25:13,246 --> 00:25:15,212 Based upon what, Mr. Ballard? 535 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:18,249 These are two serious felony charges here. 536 00:25:18,251 --> 00:25:20,985 Based on that fact that this is a political prosecution. 537 00:25:20,987 --> 00:25:23,287 You're not on trial yet, Counselor. 538 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:25,222 Your Honor, if it please the court, 539 00:25:25,224 --> 00:25:26,957 Miss McClure is a young woman 540 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:28,225 with no previous criminal record 541 00:25:28,227 --> 00:25:30,194 and close ties to the community. 542 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:31,996 Mr. Stone? 543 00:25:31,998 --> 00:25:34,732 People have no objection to minimum bail, Your Honor. 544 00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:38,202 Then bail is set at $10,000, cash or bond. 545 00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:39,203 Short date. 546 00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:40,938 ( Judge bangs gavel ) 547 00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:44,742 BALLARD: Thanks for the bail recommendation. 548 00:25:44,744 --> 00:25:46,610 STONE: Not at all, sir. Martyrs don't run. 549 00:25:46,612 --> 00:25:49,280 How can you allow yourself to be used like this? 550 00:25:49,282 --> 00:25:52,750 If you're going to stick your finger in my eye, Mr. Ballard, 551 00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,019 clean your own nails first. 552 00:25:55,021 --> 00:25:57,688 It seems to me the only reason for this prosecution 553 00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:59,957 is to make the right-to-life movement look bad. 554 00:25:59,959 --> 00:26:01,592 That will get you in the papers 555 00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,961 but it won't help your client and it's not true. 556 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:06,964 Look, McClure didn't plant that bomb, Mary Donovan did. 557 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:09,116 McClure made the bomb. 558 00:26:09,117 --> 00:26:11,267 The best you can get, if you believe she's guilty: 559 00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,037 conspiracy six, arson four. 560 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,940 Are you accusing me of filing inflated charges? 561 00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,309 I'm only saying you're going to cost the state a lot of money, 562 00:26:18,311 --> 00:26:20,210 merely to get her on probation. 563 00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,613 If probation will keep a bomb out of that woman's hands, 564 00:26:22,615 --> 00:26:23,781 I think it's worth the money. 565 00:26:23,783 --> 00:26:25,316 These people aren't criminals. 566 00:26:25,318 --> 00:26:27,318 What are they? Mary Poppins? Mother Theresa? 567 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,654 They are exercising their right of free speech. 568 00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:32,356 Throwing a bomb is a little non-verbal 569 00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:34,258 to qualify as speech, sir. 570 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,228 Sure you don't want to recuse yourself? 571 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:39,229 That's insulting. 572 00:26:39,231 --> 00:26:40,965 I'm personally against abortion 573 00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:43,233 means I can't prosecute a bomber? 574 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:45,336 What I believe doesn't matter. 575 00:26:45,338 --> 00:26:47,137 I represent the law. 576 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:48,138 Amazing. 577 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,007 I'm getting angry. 578 00:26:50,009 --> 00:26:52,810 It's the most emotional issue 579 00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:57,348 that the law has dealt with since suffrage. 580 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:59,333 Look at us-- 581 00:26:59,334 --> 00:27:01,317 three men talking about what rights 582 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,622 women should have over their own bodies. 583 00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:08,092 Now, doesn't that strike you as a little one-sided? 584 00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:09,326 Adam, I've already told you 585 00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:11,328 my personal feelings have no impact 586 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:13,097 on my ability to prosecute a criminal case. 587 00:27:13,099 --> 00:27:15,299 And I have never said that a woman does not have 588 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:16,300 the right to choose. 589 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:18,335 SCHIFF: Fine. Wonderful. 590 00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:22,640 You feeling shaky on the conspiracy charge? 591 00:27:22,642 --> 00:27:26,176 You better tie the bomb maker to the bomber 592 00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:28,145 with a little more than what you got there. 593 00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:31,715 We prove McClure made the bomb, Donovan delivered it... 594 00:27:31,717 --> 00:27:33,150 And what about Schwimmer? 595 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:35,019 That's flimsy. STONE: And it's risky. 596 00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:37,187 We tie her into the picture, it doesn't work... 597 00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:39,123 I wouldn't go even for an indictment 598 00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:40,324 with what we got now. 599 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,393 But? It is a conspiracy, 600 00:27:42,395 --> 00:27:44,194 and I want to make it stick! 601 00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:46,130 Forensics ever send over a print report? 602 00:27:46,132 --> 00:27:48,132 Finally. There's another set of prints 603 00:27:48,134 --> 00:27:50,668 along with Mary Donovan's on that I.D. card. 604 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,403 We don't figure out who they belong to, 605 00:27:52,405 --> 00:27:55,139 Ballard will say someone else was in league with Mary. 606 00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:57,307 Yeah, get a print workup on everybody who knew her. 607 00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:59,209 You argue with Schiff a lot on this. 608 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:00,761 Yeah. You agree with him? 609 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:02,312 Oh, come on, Ben, that's not an issue for me. 610 00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:03,781 I'm not for abortion, I'm for birth control. 611 00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:05,249 I got your fertilizer. 612 00:28:05,251 --> 00:28:06,851 Make me happy. 613 00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:08,452 McClure bought one bag from the same supplier 614 00:28:08,454 --> 00:28:10,421 who sells to the community garden. 615 00:28:10,423 --> 00:28:11,855 Ordered it herself. 616 00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,258 She didn't happen to sign the... 617 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:17,294 You just made me very happy. 618 00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:19,396 The only deal we're interested in 619 00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:22,132 is you drop everything, don't even go to the grand jury. 620 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,467 Put your emotions in your briefcase 621 00:28:23,469 --> 00:28:24,468 for a couple of minutes. 622 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:26,470 This case is about emotion. 623 00:28:26,472 --> 00:28:29,206 I hope you know your law better than that, Mr. Ballard. 624 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,442 I know juries are swayed by it. 625 00:28:31,444 --> 00:28:33,711 It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard. 626 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:36,814 Miss McClure, you and Mary Donovan 627 00:28:36,816 --> 00:28:38,415 bombed the clinic. 628 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:41,852 Mary Donovan is dead and you're not. 629 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:52,196 She's a nice young lady. 630 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:53,464 She made a mistake. 631 00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:56,200 I hope you're not going to let her 632 00:28:56,202 --> 00:28:58,335 take the fall all by herself. 633 00:28:58,337 --> 00:29:01,271 All she has to do is name who ordered it. 634 00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:04,274 It doesn't matter what happens to me. 635 00:29:04,276 --> 00:29:05,509 The babies matter. 636 00:29:05,511 --> 00:29:07,845 Arson in the second degree 637 00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:09,513 is a Class B felony. 638 00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:11,415 I assume Mr. Ballard told you the sentence 639 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,183 if you're convicted. 640 00:29:13,185 --> 00:29:14,785 Six years in jail. 641 00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:17,921 Six years in prison, Miss McClure. 642 00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:21,892 May we leave now, Mr. Ballard? 643 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:32,369 23 years old. 644 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:34,338 She can't even imagine 645 00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:37,374 what six years of hard time is like. 646 00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:39,510 Somebody's using her. 647 00:29:39,512 --> 00:29:40,844 Schwimmer? 648 00:29:40,846 --> 00:29:42,513 An hour ago, I didn't know, 649 00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:44,882 but now-- even money. 650 00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:47,818 Still, it usually doesn't work this way. 651 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,254 Usually, the criminal doesn't want to go to jail. 652 00:29:50,256 --> 00:29:51,522 McClure does. 653 00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:53,190 And she'll become a martyr. 654 00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:54,525 She'll never give up on Schwimmer. 655 00:29:54,527 --> 00:29:55,993 She won't give anybody. 656 00:29:55,995 --> 00:29:57,494 Except herself. 657 00:29:57,496 --> 00:30:00,230 It's about morality for her, not legal compromise. 658 00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:02,166 So why don't we turn this around? 659 00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:03,467 Let's try a reverse. 660 00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:06,503 I'm not part of any conspiracy, Mr. Robinette. 661 00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:08,472 You understand, Miss Schwimmer, 662 00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:09,840 we're going to request 663 00:30:09,842 --> 00:30:12,543 the maximum sentence for Celeste McClure. 664 00:30:12,545 --> 00:30:14,545 You might ask your attorney what that means. 665 00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,947 First, you have to get a conviction 666 00:30:16,949 --> 00:30:18,582 with very thin evidence. 667 00:30:18,584 --> 00:30:21,585 Evidence we think a jury will find convincing. 668 00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:23,554 Celeste McClure will go to prison 669 00:30:23,556 --> 00:30:25,422 for a long time. 670 00:30:25,424 --> 00:30:29,526 MOLLOY: People in this state would never forget her. 671 00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:30,527 ROBINETTE: Fine-- 672 00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:32,229 make her a martyr-- 673 00:30:32,231 --> 00:30:35,332 but Celeste McClure is a young kid. 674 00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:38,936 Are you going to let her rot behind bars? 675 00:30:38,938 --> 00:30:43,240 Rose, don't say anything until we've talked. 676 00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:45,375 This meeting is over. 677 00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:50,614 ROBINETTE: You never heard their names mentioned? 678 00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:53,917 Schwimmer or McClure? 679 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:55,319 Never. 680 00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:56,620 Anything you remember 681 00:30:56,622 --> 00:30:58,622 about the day of the bombing? 682 00:30:58,624 --> 00:30:59,923 Anything you've thought about 683 00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:03,026 since you talked with the police? 684 00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:05,629 Mary said she was taking the day off. 685 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:06,630 Shopping. 686 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:08,899 Patrick, her boyfriend, 687 00:31:08,901 --> 00:31:12,035 he came to drive her to school. 688 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:15,072 They had an argument outside. 689 00:31:15,074 --> 00:31:16,640 Couples have arguments. 690 00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:18,342 It was serious enough, Geoffrey, 691 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:20,878 for Kevin to try to break it up. 692 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,081 Your son here that early in the morning a lot? 693 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,550 GEOFFREY: He stops by occasionally. 694 00:31:26,552 --> 00:31:27,951 Not that often. 695 00:31:27,953 --> 00:31:30,587 ROBINETTE: What was the argument about? 696 00:31:30,589 --> 00:31:33,624 Something Patrick had with him. 697 00:31:33,626 --> 00:31:34,625 Nothing. 698 00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:35,592 An envelope. 699 00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:36,627 Nothing?! 700 00:31:36,629 --> 00:31:39,630 So why did we hear them yelling? 701 00:31:39,632 --> 00:31:42,566 Our daughter did what she did 702 00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:44,968 out of her own conscience. 703 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:47,104 We can live with that. 704 00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:49,506 You can live with that, Geoffrey. 705 00:31:49,508 --> 00:31:52,075 A martyr will never be able to tell me 706 00:31:52,077 --> 00:31:55,545 what a wonderful day she had at school yesterday. 707 00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:57,981 A martyr will never have a wedding. 708 00:31:57,983 --> 00:32:00,517 A martyr will never have children. 709 00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:07,524 I wanted to go to Barbados. 710 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:09,526 I brought her a brochure. 711 00:32:09,528 --> 00:32:12,396 I thought it would convince her. 712 00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:14,965 That's what was in the envelope. 713 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:17,534 That's all it was about? 714 00:32:17,536 --> 00:32:19,236 Her parents... 715 00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:20,937 She felt it would look bad 716 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,607 if we went together not married. 717 00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:28,478 She said I was being insensitive to their feelings. 718 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,417 I had it all planned-- 719 00:32:33,419 --> 00:32:35,152 a romantic place... 720 00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:36,687 It's stupid. 721 00:32:36,689 --> 00:32:41,525 I guess I felt I needed the right setting. 722 00:32:41,527 --> 00:32:45,362 I was going to ask her to marry... me... 723 00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,569 It wasn't that big a fight. 724 00:32:52,571 --> 00:32:54,338 So why did you get involved? 725 00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:56,106 I went out to talk to them. 726 00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:58,342 Your mother heard you yelling. 727 00:32:58,344 --> 00:33:00,510 Patrick said your sister was upset. 728 00:33:00,512 --> 00:33:02,012 There was no fight. 729 00:33:02,014 --> 00:33:03,613 You're lying, Kevin. 730 00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:04,665 What are you gonna do? 731 00:33:04,666 --> 00:33:05,716 You want to charge me with the bombing 732 00:33:05,718 --> 00:33:07,384 of the clinic? You can count on it 733 00:33:07,386 --> 00:33:09,653 if I find you're covering up a crime. 734 00:33:12,057 --> 00:33:15,525 I don't know anything about the bombing. 735 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,666 We'll call you if we need you. 736 00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:26,737 The Donovan I.D., the other fingerprints-- 737 00:33:26,739 --> 00:33:28,071 Got a match? 738 00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:29,473 Just came in from Washington. 739 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:30,640 He'd been in the army. 740 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:31,641 Who? 741 00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:35,412 The boyfriend, Patrick Dunne. 742 00:33:37,383 --> 00:33:40,183 By themselves, the fingerprints aren't proof. 743 00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,452 She could have shown him the card 744 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:44,421 without telling him 745 00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:46,389 she was going to use it to plant a bomb. 746 00:33:46,392 --> 00:33:47,691 We need something else. 747 00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,626 Yeah, the brother has a story, 748 00:33:49,628 --> 00:33:51,228 the boyfriend another. 749 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:54,631 STONE: What about if we arrest 750 00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:57,501 Patrick as a co-conspirator? 751 00:33:57,503 --> 00:33:58,635 Based on the prints? 752 00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:00,570 I don't want him arraigned 753 00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:02,572 if you don't think he's guilty. 754 00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,408 I don't know if he's guilty, 755 00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:05,475 but let's arrest him anyway. 756 00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:06,510 Not arraign him till tomorrow, 757 00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:07,677 put him in a room with Kevin... 758 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:08,712 We'll see what shakes loose. 759 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,247 Yeah. 760 00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,449 The charge is arson and conspiracy. 761 00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:14,418 I'm not involved in that bombing. 762 00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:16,753 You can call your lawyer in a few minutes. 763 00:34:18,657 --> 00:34:21,658 Easy. This is unbelievable. 764 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:23,126 What's he doing here? 765 00:34:23,128 --> 00:34:24,795 Is he being arrested too? 766 00:34:24,797 --> 00:34:25,796 Arrested? 767 00:34:25,798 --> 00:34:27,664 Mary's false I.D. card, Kevin. 768 00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,867 Patrick's fingerprints are on it. 769 00:34:29,868 --> 00:34:32,069 Did you get it for her so she could do the bombing? 770 00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:33,737 It makes you a co-conspirator, Patrick. 771 00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:37,674 I'm not going to jail, Kevin. I can prove 772 00:34:37,676 --> 00:34:38,642 I wasn't involved... Don't tell them anything. 773 00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:39,643 Mary wasn't... 774 00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:41,578 Shut up! Shut up! 775 00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:51,822 All he wants is for her to be a martyr 776 00:34:51,824 --> 00:34:53,690 instead of a sinner. 777 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:56,693 She didn't go there to bomb the clinic. 778 00:34:56,695 --> 00:34:59,863 She was pregnant. 779 00:34:59,865 --> 00:35:01,832 She was there 780 00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:03,767 to have an abortion. 781 00:35:03,769 --> 00:35:06,770 She was there to kill our baby. 782 00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:12,476 She was ashamed. 783 00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:14,511 She thought if her parents found out, they would... 784 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:15,879 But you wanted to marry her. 785 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:17,214 That would've solved everything. 786 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:18,415 Doesn't matter. 787 00:35:18,417 --> 00:35:20,784 The baby comes early, everybody knows. 788 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:24,387 So under a false name, she'd have an abortion? 789 00:35:24,389 --> 00:35:27,524 That morning, I gave her the I.D. 790 00:35:27,526 --> 00:35:30,393 and the money, so that she could... 791 00:35:30,395 --> 00:35:35,398 I pleaded with her to at least let me take her. 792 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,467 I pleaded. 793 00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:42,806 With arson, you could be a martyr; 794 00:35:42,808 --> 00:35:45,542 with conspiracy, you could still be a martyr. 795 00:35:45,544 --> 00:35:49,279 But, Miss McClure, now... now we are talking about murder. 796 00:35:49,281 --> 00:35:53,416 I didn't kill anybody. 797 00:35:53,418 --> 00:35:55,752 Mary Donovan did not get hit by a car. 798 00:35:55,754 --> 00:35:57,754 Tell her, Mr. Ballard. 799 00:36:00,192 --> 00:36:04,161 It's not six years in jail anymore, Miss McClure. 800 00:36:04,163 --> 00:36:06,429 BALLARD: You'll never get her for manslaughter. 801 00:36:06,431 --> 00:36:07,430 Manslaughter? 802 00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:08,498 We are now talking 803 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,300 about murder in the second-degree-- 804 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:11,535 depraved indifference to human life. 805 00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:13,037 You're out of your mind. 806 00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:14,538 STONE: 15 years to life behind bars. 807 00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:17,307 Now, I don't want to put you in prison, Miss McClure, 808 00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:19,309 but somebody killed Mary Donovan. 809 00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:22,312 An innocent woman died-- that is murder. 810 00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:24,881 That makes you no better than the people you oppose. 811 00:36:24,883 --> 00:36:28,385 Counselor, she's a kid-- you said so yourself. 812 00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:33,557 Mary Donovan was a kid too. 813 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,525 Ask her parents. 814 00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:43,833 All right, she pleads on all three counts outstanding, 815 00:36:43,835 --> 00:36:46,203 you recommend minimum sentences, 816 00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,505 she testifies against nobody. 817 00:36:48,507 --> 00:36:50,507 If this was Schwimmer's idea, she testifies against her. 818 00:36:50,509 --> 00:36:53,510 We drop down to conspiracy six, arson four. 819 00:36:53,512 --> 00:36:56,479 She pleads to criminally negligent homicide, 820 00:36:56,481 --> 00:36:58,315 she does six months. 821 00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:01,451 Celeste, do you understand? 822 00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:07,324 If I thought anyone would get hurt, 823 00:37:07,326 --> 00:37:11,328 I wouldn't have given Rose the bomb. 824 00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:13,930 The charges here are conspiracy in the second degree, 825 00:37:13,932 --> 00:37:17,234 arson in the second degree, murder in the second degree. 826 00:37:17,236 --> 00:37:19,869 Does the defendant wish to enter a plea? 827 00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:21,538 Not guilty, Your Honor. 828 00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:23,473 If it pleases the court, we're requesting bail. 829 00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,025 JUDGE: Mr. Stone? 830 00:37:25,026 --> 00:37:26,576 Your Honor, Miss Schwimmer has been convicted 831 00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,913 of several misdemeanors and has made every court appearance. 832 00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:31,481 However, in our experience, 833 00:37:31,483 --> 00:37:32,983 activists accused of more serious crimes 834 00:37:32,985 --> 00:37:35,986 have sometimes decided to work for their cause 835 00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:38,622 from behind the scenes-- far behind. 836 00:37:38,624 --> 00:37:40,523 Therefore, The People recommend 837 00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:42,392 the defendant be held without bail. 838 00:37:42,394 --> 00:37:43,960 Your Honor, there's no reason to believe 839 00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:45,829 the defendant is a flight risk. 840 00:37:45,831 --> 00:37:48,398 Mr. Stone, I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Molloy. 841 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,633 What applies generally, 842 00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:52,269 may not apply specifically to this defendant. 843 00:37:52,271 --> 00:37:53,503 I understand, Your Honor. 844 00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:56,539 But this is a homicide, Mr. Molloy, 845 00:37:56,541 --> 00:37:59,542 with two additional felony charges. 846 00:37:59,544 --> 00:38:02,979 Bail is set at... $300,000. 847 00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:04,381 ( gavel bangs ) 848 00:38:06,351 --> 00:38:08,285 STONE: And regardless of your personal feelings, 849 00:38:08,287 --> 00:38:11,655 you are not being asked to decide a moral issue, 850 00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:13,657 you are being asked to decide a legal issue. 851 00:38:13,659 --> 00:38:16,493 The crime is the murder of a young woman 852 00:38:16,495 --> 00:38:18,028 by an exploding bomb 853 00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:19,296 and that woman-- 854 00:38:19,298 --> 00:38:21,398 Miss Rose Schwimmer-- 855 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,667 is accused of placing a bomb 856 00:38:23,669 --> 00:38:26,469 with depraved indifference to human life-- 857 00:38:26,471 --> 00:38:28,938 indifference to anyone it might hurt. 858 00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:32,942 Now, you may hear arguments that the ends justify the means, 859 00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:34,878 that an illegal act 860 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,980 is somehow justified by a moral cause. 861 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:40,984 If you are even tempted to agree with that argument, 862 00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:42,319 please remember: 863 00:38:42,321 --> 00:38:44,954 killing is not only against the law, 864 00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:47,657 it is also immoral 865 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,926 and if anyone suggests to you 866 00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:52,929 that morality and law are somehow in conflict, 867 00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:54,931 I ask you to remember that. 868 00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:57,701 STONE: Is fertilizer and diesel fuel 869 00:38:57,703 --> 00:38:59,703 a commonly known explosive? 870 00:38:59,705 --> 00:39:01,971 They blow mountains apart with it. 871 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:04,941 Did you find actual pieces of the bomb? 872 00:39:04,943 --> 00:39:06,943 That's correct-- fragments of it were coated 873 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:08,912 with the fertilizer compound. 874 00:39:08,914 --> 00:39:10,747 Did you make a comparison between that compound 875 00:39:10,749 --> 00:39:14,050 and the fertilizer taken from the community garden? 876 00:39:14,052 --> 00:39:15,051 I did. 877 00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:16,619 What were the results? 878 00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:18,421 They were hemically identical. 879 00:39:18,423 --> 00:39:19,489 Thank you. 880 00:39:19,491 --> 00:39:21,491 No further questions, Your Honor. 881 00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:23,693 Mr. Olivera, is the chemical in the fertilizer in question 882 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,628 available as a chemical 883 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:28,565 other than in that particular fertilizer? 884 00:39:28,567 --> 00:39:29,933 Yes. 885 00:39:29,935 --> 00:39:32,936 Other manufacturers make the same formulation. 886 00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,505 And is it also available just as a chemical compound 887 00:39:35,507 --> 00:39:37,640 that has nothing to do with fertilizer? 888 00:39:37,642 --> 00:39:38,775 Yes. 889 00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,378 So the nitrate in the bomb 890 00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:43,680 could've come from somewhere else, isn't that right? 891 00:39:43,682 --> 00:39:46,516 It's remotely possible-- one in a million. 892 00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:49,486 Thank you. No more questions. 893 00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:51,654 REPORTER: Demanding police protection for abortion clinics, 894 00:39:51,656 --> 00:39:54,124 an estimated 10,000 pro-choice demonstrators 895 00:39:54,126 --> 00:39:55,725 marched down Tenth Avenue. 896 00:39:57,462 --> 00:40:00,764 It's only going to get worse. 897 00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:03,700 Luckily, that ain't my problem. 898 00:40:03,702 --> 00:40:05,769 STONE: We're willing to consider a plea-- 899 00:40:05,771 --> 00:40:07,170 manslaughter two. 900 00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:09,973 Mary Donovan was the perfect martyr. 901 00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:13,443 You should've left it that way. 902 00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:15,979 And you, hiding behind a dead woman? 903 00:40:15,981 --> 00:40:18,615 I don't think the jury will like that. 904 00:40:18,617 --> 00:40:21,618 Mary Donovan was ready to kill her baby. 905 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:24,154 Will the jury like that any better? 906 00:40:24,156 --> 00:40:26,723 Mary Donovan is not on trial here. 907 00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:28,658 She will be. 908 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,994 She conspired to commit murder. 909 00:40:30,996 --> 00:40:36,166 Are you admitting that Mary didn't plant the bomb? 910 00:40:40,439 --> 00:40:41,704 In this state, 911 00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:43,807 capital punishment is against the law. 912 00:40:43,809 --> 00:40:45,809 Yet you're ready to risk 913 00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:48,445 your own form of capital punishment 914 00:40:48,447 --> 00:40:51,448 against people you consider deserving of it? 915 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:53,783 They do deserve it. 916 00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:56,586 This isn't getting us anywhere. 917 00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,121 Come on, Rose. 918 00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:04,727 Miss Schwimmer? 919 00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:09,466 I think you should reconsider. 920 00:41:09,468 --> 00:41:12,769 I don't make deals with the devil. 921 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:21,177 STONE: Two-and-a-half months ago, 922 00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:23,146 did Miss McClure come into your store 923 00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,048 and place her usual order? 924 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:26,716 Yes, she did. 925 00:41:26,718 --> 00:41:28,751 Did she add anything unusual to it? 926 00:41:28,753 --> 00:41:30,620 Objection-- characterization. 927 00:41:30,622 --> 00:41:32,155 Sustained. 928 00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:34,123 Did Miss McClure's purchases 929 00:41:34,125 --> 00:41:36,593 include anything she did not make 930 00:41:36,595 --> 00:41:38,061 on a regular basis? 931 00:41:38,063 --> 00:41:40,864 Yes, a 50-pound bag of fertilizer 932 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,867 with a special nitrate formula. 933 00:41:43,869 --> 00:41:45,668 Did that strike you as strange? 934 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:48,771 It's used mostly for palm trees. 935 00:41:48,773 --> 00:41:51,641 I told her it would kill her plants. 936 00:41:51,643 --> 00:41:53,610 I had to special-order it. 937 00:41:53,612 --> 00:41:56,179 On that day, when Miss McClure ordered the fertilizer, 938 00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:57,847 was anyone with her? 939 00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:58,915 Yes. 940 00:41:58,917 --> 00:42:01,751 Is that person in this courtroom? 941 00:42:01,753 --> 00:42:02,819 Yes. 942 00:42:02,821 --> 00:42:05,088 Would you point that person out 943 00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:06,189 for the jury? 944 00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:08,858 She's sitting right over there. 945 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:11,127 Your Honor, may the record show 946 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:13,696 that she's pointing to the defendant? 947 00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:15,698 JUDGE: Let the record so indicate. 948 00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:22,772 Rose said... talking, marching-- 949 00:42:22,774 --> 00:42:26,843 it wasn't stopping the abortions. 950 00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,678 She was right. 951 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,648 Every day, more babies were being murdered. 952 00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:34,183 Did Miss Schwimmer talk about the bombings 953 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:37,120 in front of the other members of Women for Life? 954 00:42:37,122 --> 00:42:40,857 She said they wouldn't understand. 955 00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:44,928 And... 956 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:48,898 that if it was just the two of us, 957 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,334 nobody would find out. 958 00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:53,836 When did you give Miss Schwimmer the bomb? 959 00:42:53,838 --> 00:42:58,875 I met her for brunch that morning... 960 00:42:58,877 --> 00:43:01,878 at Lazy Jane's on Seventh Avenue. 961 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,782 STONE: And tell the jury what happened then. 962 00:43:05,784 --> 00:43:07,216 Miss McClure? 963 00:43:10,221 --> 00:43:15,224 Rose said she would go out the back door. 964 00:43:15,226 --> 00:43:16,993 It's next to the ladies' room. 965 00:43:19,164 --> 00:43:22,899 She said she could get down the alley 966 00:43:22,901 --> 00:43:25,969 and back within ten minutes. 967 00:43:25,971 --> 00:43:28,972 She told me to wait for five minutes 968 00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:31,975 and then call the clinic and warn them. 969 00:43:31,977 --> 00:43:33,943 Did you make the call? 970 00:43:33,945 --> 00:43:34,944 Yes. 971 00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:36,946 Your Honor, I would like 972 00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:38,947 to enter into evidence telephone company records 973 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,950 showing calls made from the pay phone 974 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:42,185 of the Lazy Jane restaurant 975 00:43:42,187 --> 00:43:45,188 on the day of the bombing. 976 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:48,024 And no further questions, Your Honor. 977 00:43:53,999 --> 00:43:56,899 Is defense ready for its summation? 978 00:43:56,901 --> 00:44:00,870 Your Honor, at this time, against advice of counsel, 979 00:44:00,872 --> 00:44:04,307 the defendant wishes to testify in her own behalf. 980 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:06,309 JUDGE: Miss Schwimmer, you realize 981 00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:09,012 you will be subject to cross-examination? 982 00:44:09,014 --> 00:44:10,980 I do, Your Honor. 983 00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:12,982 I urge you to reconsider. 984 00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:15,685 Listen to advice of counsel. 985 00:44:15,687 --> 00:44:19,288 However, I won't prevent you from testifying. 986 00:44:34,072 --> 00:44:38,307 Do you swear to tell the truth, so help you God? 987 00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:39,976 I certainly do. 988 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,280 BALLARD: Miss Schwimmer, 989 00:44:44,282 --> 00:44:46,949 did you conspire with Celeste McClure 990 00:44:46,951 --> 00:44:49,852 to bomb the Chelsea Women's Choice Center, 991 00:44:49,854 --> 00:44:52,722 as well as seven other abortion clinics? 992 00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:54,390 Yes, I did. 993 00:44:56,695 --> 00:44:59,829 Then you're guilty of the charges leveled against you? 994 00:44:59,831 --> 00:45:02,331 Not before God. 995 00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:04,767 Can you explain why you're innocent before God? 996 00:45:04,769 --> 00:45:06,302 Objection-- this case is being judged 997 00:45:06,304 --> 00:45:08,004 on the temporal plane, Your Honor. 998 00:45:08,006 --> 00:45:09,272 Sustained. 999 00:45:09,274 --> 00:45:11,741 How dare you object, Mr. Stone. 1000 00:45:11,743 --> 00:45:13,042 We've done our homework. 1001 00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,978 You were baptized, you go to communion 1002 00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:18,414 and you prosecute me? JUDGE: That's enough. 1003 00:45:18,416 --> 00:45:20,883 All the abortions in that clinic are murder and you know it. 1004 00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:21,951 Your Honor? 1005 00:45:21,953 --> 00:45:23,052 Miss Schwimmer! 1006 00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:25,121 Mary Donovan's death was tragic 1007 00:45:25,123 --> 00:45:27,423 but if it prevents one abortion 1008 00:45:27,425 --> 00:45:29,726 the scales are balanced. 1009 00:45:29,728 --> 00:45:31,394 Abortion must end. 1010 00:45:31,396 --> 00:45:33,096 Miss Schwimmer, that will be all! 1011 00:45:33,098 --> 00:45:34,464 Are we a nation 1012 00:45:34,466 --> 00:45:35,998 who can tolerate the abortionist 1013 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,900 sticking his hand in a mother's womb 1014 00:45:37,902 --> 00:45:39,435 ( gavel banging ) and strangling God's creation? 1015 00:45:39,437 --> 00:45:41,938 The court officer will remove Miss Schwimmer! 1016 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:43,740 Your Honor, I have only one question 1017 00:45:43,742 --> 00:45:44,941 to ask of the defendant. 1018 00:45:44,943 --> 00:45:46,075 SCHWIMMER: Which is? 1019 00:45:47,112 --> 00:45:49,011 If abortion is murder, 1020 00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:51,080 no matter how you feel about Mary Donovan, 1021 00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:53,449 aren't you guilty of the murder of her unborn child? 1022 00:46:10,869 --> 00:46:13,770 On the first count in the indictment, 1023 00:46:13,772 --> 00:46:16,038 the charge of conspiracy in the second degree, 1024 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,440 how do you find? 1025 00:46:17,442 --> 00:46:20,076 We find the defendant guilty. 1026 00:46:20,078 --> 00:46:23,179 JUDGE: And the second count-- 1027 00:46:23,181 --> 00:46:26,015 the charge of arson in the second degree, 1028 00:46:26,017 --> 00:46:27,416 how do you find? 1029 00:46:27,418 --> 00:46:30,019 We find the defendant guilty. 1030 00:46:30,021 --> 00:46:33,422 JUDGE: Third count-- murder in the second degree, 1031 00:46:33,424 --> 00:46:35,458 how do you find? 1032 00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:37,994 We find the defendant guilty. 1033 00:46:43,935 --> 00:46:45,835 STONE: What do we say to people 1034 00:46:45,837 --> 00:46:47,370 who know she committed a criminal act 1035 00:46:47,372 --> 00:46:48,938 but don't think she's a criminal? 1036 00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:50,573 ROBINETTE: That's easy: 1037 00:46:50,574 --> 00:46:52,207 A criminal is someone who commits a criminal act-- 1038 00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:53,910 for any reason. 1039 00:46:53,912 --> 00:46:55,111 But up until Roe v. Wade, 1040 00:46:55,113 --> 00:46:56,479 the abortionists were the criminals. 1041 00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:57,814 And if the law hadn't changed, 1042 00:46:57,816 --> 00:46:59,115 there never would've been a bombing. 1043 00:46:59,117 --> 00:47:01,117 If the law hadn't changed, I'd be a slave. 1044 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:01,150 You can't turn back the clock.