1 00:00:00,634 --> 00:00:03,369 IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM 2 00:00:03,371 --> 00:00:05,354 THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED 3 00:00:05,355 --> 00:00:07,338 BY TWO SEPARATE YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS: 4 00:00:07,341 --> 00:00:09,208 THE POLICE, WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME 5 00:00:09,210 --> 00:00:12,344 AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS. 6 00:00:12,346 --> 00:00:13,545 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 7 00:00:30,231 --> 00:00:33,465 OH, GREAT. ANOTHER CITIZEN WITH HALLUCINATIONS. 8 00:00:33,467 --> 00:00:36,468 WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS GUY DOING 9 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:38,470 DOWN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? 10 00:00:38,472 --> 00:00:41,173 PROBABLY LOOKING FOR A $10 HAND WAX. 11 00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:42,541 HERE? 12 00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:48,313 LET'S GO. 13 00:01:26,387 --> 00:01:27,686 HEY! 14 00:01:27,688 --> 00:01:29,354 HEY! HEY! 15 00:01:35,463 --> 00:01:38,530 IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THERE? 16 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:44,703 WATCH THEM. 17 00:02:27,214 --> 00:02:28,480 KELLY! 18 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:30,449 IT'S A KID. 19 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:36,321 Captioning made possible by UNIVERSAL TELEVISION and NBC 20 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:58,971 Man: YOU GOT ONE THROUGH AND THROUGH. 21 00:03:58,973 --> 00:04:00,539 .38 OR HEAVIER. 22 00:04:00,541 --> 00:04:02,541 THE BODY'S INTO RIGOR MORTIS 23 00:04:02,543 --> 00:04:05,010 BUT THE EYES ARE MOIST. 24 00:04:05,012 --> 00:04:06,912 I'D SAY 12 TO 18 HOURS. 25 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:10,249 ALL RIGHT, LET'S ROLL HIM OVER. 26 00:04:10,251 --> 00:04:11,316 SLOW. 27 00:04:12,886 --> 00:04:14,386 HOLD HIM. 28 00:04:18,792 --> 00:04:21,260 STUDENT I.D. 29 00:04:21,262 --> 00:04:22,527 BISHOP'S ACADEMY. 30 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:25,297 ROBBIE FENWICK. 31 00:04:25,299 --> 00:04:27,032 15 YEARS OLD. 32 00:04:27,034 --> 00:04:29,434 DETECTIVE. 33 00:04:32,573 --> 00:04:34,506 Man: IT'S A .357 MAGNUM. 34 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:37,442 PROBABLY TRIED TO CHUCK IT IN THE RIVER 35 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:38,510 AND CAME UP SHORT. 36 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:40,379 OKAY. BAG IT AND WORK IT UP. 37 00:04:40,381 --> 00:04:43,015 WE'RE HOLDING THE KIDS FOR QUESTIONING. 38 00:04:43,017 --> 00:04:44,583 YOU WANT ANYTHING NOW? 39 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:46,018 IS THAT THEM? 40 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:48,287 YEAH. COOPERATIVE LITTLE NOSE WIPES. 41 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:54,293 OKAY, WHICH ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO TELL US 42 00:04:54,295 --> 00:04:55,394 ABOUT THAT DEAD BOY? 43 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:56,461 NOTHING TO TELL. 44 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:58,363 YOU KNOW HIM? 45 00:04:58,365 --> 00:05:00,465 Cerreta: WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? 46 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:02,467 WE HEARD THERE WAS A BODY. 47 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:03,935 WE JUST CAME TO SEE. 48 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:05,404 YOU LIVE AROUND HERE? 49 00:05:05,406 --> 00:05:07,406 JACKSON TOWERS. 50 00:05:07,408 --> 00:05:10,008 YOU CAME HERE 'CAUSE YOU HEARD 51 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:11,476 THERE WAS A BODY? 52 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,078 SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT? 53 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,380 SLUG IS A FIVE WITH A RIGHT TWIST. 54 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:17,449 IT'S A WADCUTTER SERIES TWO. 55 00:05:17,451 --> 00:05:19,885 IT'S A PROBABLE MATCH TO THE WEAPON. 56 00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:23,422 I'VE ONLY SEEN WADCUTTERS USED IN TARGET PRACTICE. 57 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:26,325 UH-HUH. WEAPON'S A RUGER SECURITY SIX .357 58 00:05:26,327 --> 00:05:29,394 CUSTOM PACHMAYR GRIP, MODIFIED HAMMER AND TRIGGER. 59 00:05:29,396 --> 00:05:30,462 IT'S NOT A TOY. 60 00:05:30,464 --> 00:05:32,531 THE OWNER TOOK GOOD CARE OF IT. 61 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:34,633 NO LIVE ROUNDS IN THE CYLINDER. 62 00:05:34,635 --> 00:05:37,035 THERE'S ONLY THE ONE SPENT CASING. 63 00:05:37,037 --> 00:05:38,337 THAT'S ALL IT TAKES. 64 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:40,405 YOU RUN IT THROUGH THE SYSTEM? 65 00:05:40,407 --> 00:05:41,973 A GUN SO LOVED 66 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:45,977 IT HAD TO HAVE ITS VERY OWN LICENSE. 67 00:05:45,979 --> 00:05:51,883 AND IT'S... IAN MASER, 557 WEST 77th STREET. 68 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:55,454 DO YOU OWN A RUGER SECURITY SIX .357 MAGNUM PISTOL? 69 00:05:55,456 --> 00:05:56,955 I DO. 70 00:05:56,957 --> 00:06:00,559 IT HAS BEEN FOUND AT THE SCENE OF A HOMICIDE 71 00:06:00,561 --> 00:06:02,594 AND DETERMINED THE MURDER WEAPON. 72 00:06:02,596 --> 00:06:05,530 I KEEP THAT GUN LOCKED IN MY BEDSIDE TABLE. 73 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:08,533 THIS IT? 74 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:11,737 YES, IT IS. 75 00:06:11,739 --> 00:06:14,606 DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ACCESS TO THIS GUN? 76 00:06:14,608 --> 00:06:16,007 THERE'S THE MAID. 77 00:06:16,009 --> 00:06:17,542 ARE YOU MARRIED? 78 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:18,610 DIVORCED. 79 00:06:18,612 --> 00:06:20,512 DOES ANYONE LIVE WITH YOU? 80 00:06:20,514 --> 00:06:21,546 THERE'S MY SON. 81 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:24,416 WHERE DOES HE GO TO SCHOOL? 82 00:06:24,418 --> 00:06:25,417 BISHOP'S ACADEMY. 83 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:26,418 HE'S NOT THERE. 84 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:27,953 HE'S UP IN HIS ROOM. 85 00:06:27,955 --> 00:06:29,521 HE'S NOT FEELING WELL. 86 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,522 DO YOU MIND 87 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:32,090 IF WE TALK WITH HIM? 88 00:06:40,167 --> 00:06:41,566 JAMIE. 89 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:45,971 JAMIE. 90 00:06:52,446 --> 00:06:57,482 JAMIE, CAN WE ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS? 91 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:02,988 IF YOU WANTED TO SHOW ROBBIE THE GUN 92 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:05,424 WHY DID YOU GO TO THE WAREHOUSE? 93 00:07:05,426 --> 00:07:08,427 THAT WAS HIS IDEA. 94 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:10,729 HE WANTED TO SHOOT IT. 95 00:07:10,731 --> 00:07:13,098 THEN WHAT DID YOU DO? 96 00:07:15,202 --> 00:07:17,102 ROBBIE HAD THE GUN. 97 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:19,671 HE WAS AIMING IT AROUND. 98 00:07:19,673 --> 00:07:24,042 THEN I HAD IT, AND I WAS HOLDING IT. 99 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:28,480 SHOW US HOW YOU WERE HOLDING IT. 100 00:07:28,482 --> 00:07:32,083 ABOUT HERE-- LIKE WAIST HEIGHT. 101 00:07:32,085 --> 00:07:36,521 DID YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER? 102 00:07:36,523 --> 00:07:39,191 I DON'T REMEMBER. 103 00:07:39,193 --> 00:07:42,027 Cerreta: WHERE WAS ROBBIE? 104 00:07:42,029 --> 00:07:46,465 HE WAS STANDING LIKE ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE. 105 00:07:46,467 --> 00:07:47,799 THAT CLOSE? 106 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:49,234 UH-HUH. 107 00:07:49,236 --> 00:07:53,171 HE WANTED ME TO GIVE HIM BACK THE GUN. 108 00:07:53,173 --> 00:07:56,208 HE REACHED OVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS... 109 00:07:56,210 --> 00:07:58,243 IT WENT OFF. 110 00:07:58,245 --> 00:08:00,212 DID YOU SEE IF HE WAS ALIVE? 111 00:08:00,214 --> 00:08:02,547 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 112 00:08:02,549 --> 00:08:04,716 HE LOOKED DEAD. 113 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:07,018 I FREAKED. 114 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:09,221 I JUST JAMMED OUT OF THERE. 115 00:08:09,223 --> 00:08:11,656 I DIDN'T MEAN IT, YOU KNOW. 116 00:08:11,658 --> 00:08:13,592 I REALLY DIDN'T. 117 00:08:13,594 --> 00:08:15,026 I SWEAR. 118 00:08:15,028 --> 00:08:17,662 IT JUST WENT OFF. 119 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:20,499 IT JUST DID. 120 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:23,101 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCARED 15-YEAR-OLD. 121 00:08:23,103 --> 00:08:26,037 I DON'T SEE WHY WE GOT TO CHARGE HIM. 122 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:27,506 Cragen: WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST-- 123 00:08:27,508 --> 00:08:29,841 SENDING HIM HOME WITH A LOLLIPOP? 124 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:32,177 WE GOT TO CHARGE THIS KID 125 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:34,196 WITH SOMETHING. 126 00:08:34,197 --> 00:08:36,214 Robinette: THERE'S ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A CHARGE 127 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:38,250 OF RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT. 128 00:08:38,252 --> 00:08:40,218 EVEN SECOND DEGREE'S A STRETCH. 129 00:08:40,220 --> 00:08:42,220 CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A WEAPON. 130 00:08:42,222 --> 00:08:44,656 WE COULD ALWAYS UPGRADE IF NECESSARY. 131 00:08:44,658 --> 00:08:47,692 ( phone ringing ) 132 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,294 YEAH? 133 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:51,797 MM-HMM. 134 00:08:51,798 --> 00:08:54,299 THE DESK HAS ROBBIE FENWICK'S PARENTS ON THE LINE. 135 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:57,269 I'LL TAKE IT OUTSIDE. 136 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:04,309 HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO WRAPPING UP? 137 00:09:04,311 --> 00:09:07,779 WE JUST GOT THE CRIME SCENE REPORT THIS MORNING. 138 00:09:07,781 --> 00:09:10,315 WE JUST HAVE TO WALK IT THROUGH. 139 00:09:10,317 --> 00:09:12,284 MAYBE A DAY OR SO. 140 00:09:15,856 --> 00:09:18,723 ROBBIE IS STANDING RIGHT ABOUT HERE. 141 00:09:20,661 --> 00:09:26,264 AND THAT MEANS JAMIE'S ABOUT HERE WITH THE GUN. 142 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:29,901 ENTRY WOUND IN THE RIGHT TEMPLE, OUT THE BACK LEFT. 143 00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:33,204 ROBBIE TURNED HIS HEAD AWAY. 144 00:09:33,206 --> 00:09:36,675 WE HAVE A WOUND ON HIS RIGHT HAND. 145 00:09:36,677 --> 00:09:38,310 HE WAS ASKING FOR THE GUN. 146 00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:39,678 IF HE WAS REACHING 147 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,213 HE WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSER TO JAMIE 148 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:46,651 AND THERE WOULD BE POWDER BURNS ON THE RIGHT HAND. 149 00:09:46,653 --> 00:09:48,320 BUT THERE WEREN'T ANY. 150 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:49,788 SO THE GUN HAS TO BE 151 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:52,257 AT LEAST A COUPLE FEET AWAY. 152 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:55,260 YEAH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S PUT HIM ABOUT... 153 00:09:55,262 --> 00:09:57,362 HERE. 154 00:09:57,364 --> 00:09:59,230 ALL RIGHT, HIS HAND HAS TO BE HERE. 155 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:01,900 HOW DID HE GET THE HAND HIT? 156 00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:07,639 UNLESS HE'S LIKE THIS. 157 00:10:09,743 --> 00:10:11,309 HIS HANDS ARE UP HERE 158 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:14,312 BECAUSE HE'S TRYING TO PROTECT HIMSELF. 159 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:18,817 AND IF JAMIE WAS CRADLING THE GUN DOWN HERE 160 00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:22,253 WELL, HE'D HAVE GUNSHOT RESIDUE ON HIS SHIRT. 161 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:24,656 THE TESTS WERE NEGATIVE. 162 00:10:26,827 --> 00:10:28,960 WE'D GET A HIGHER BULLET HIT. 163 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:30,662 WE SUPPOSED TO BE 164 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:33,665 SURPRISED EVERY TIME SOMEBODY LIES TO US? 165 00:10:33,667 --> 00:10:35,967 Cerreta: WE TOOK WHAT YOU TOLD US 166 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:38,870 AND PUT IT ALONGSIDE THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE 167 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:40,639 AND IT JUST DOESN'T MATCH. 168 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:44,242 FOR STARTERS, YOU WEREN'T STANDING NEXT TO ROBBIE 169 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:45,810 WHEN THE GUN WENT OFF 170 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,345 RIGHT? 171 00:10:47,347 --> 00:10:52,283 AND YOU WEREN'T HOLDING THE GUN THE WAY YOU SAID YOU WERE. 172 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:53,284 ALSO RIGHT? 173 00:10:53,286 --> 00:10:54,853 Cerreta: IF THERE'S 174 00:10:54,855 --> 00:10:57,322 SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TELL US 175 00:10:57,324 --> 00:10:59,357 THIS IS THE TIME. 176 00:10:59,359 --> 00:11:00,825 IT'S ALL RIGHT. 177 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,694 YOU CAN TALK TO THEM. 178 00:11:05,899 --> 00:11:09,334 WE WERE PLAYING A GAME. 179 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:11,770 WHAT KIND OF GAME? 180 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:13,304 TRUST. 181 00:11:13,306 --> 00:11:16,341 SEE, YOU AIM THE GUN AT THE OTHER GUY 182 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:18,777 LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO SHOOT HIM 183 00:11:18,779 --> 00:11:21,713 UNTIL HE TELLS YOU TO STOP, UNTIL HE GIVES. 184 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:24,716 WHOSE IDEA WAS THIS GAME? 185 00:11:24,718 --> 00:11:27,452 I DON'T REMEMBER. 186 00:11:27,454 --> 00:11:29,788 ALL YOU WANT TO DO 187 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:32,290 IS LET THE OTHER GUY GIVE. 188 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:34,325 YOU DON'T WANT TO HURT HIM. 189 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:36,327 SO WHAT HAPPENED? 190 00:11:36,329 --> 00:11:41,266 WELL, I WAS AIMING AT ROBBIE... 191 00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:44,436 AND I WAS SQUEEZING THE TRIGGER REAL SLOW. 192 00:11:44,438 --> 00:11:46,705 Cerreta: DIDN'T IT OCCUR TO YOU 193 00:11:46,707 --> 00:11:49,307 THAT THIS GUN MIGHT GO OFF? 194 00:11:49,309 --> 00:11:52,077 THERE WAS NO WAY IT WAS GOING TO GO OFF. 195 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:56,948 I DIDN'T COCK THE HAMMER BEFORE PULLING THE TRIGGER. 196 00:11:56,950 --> 00:11:59,417 YOU HAVE TO COCK THE HAMMER 197 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:01,386 WITH YOUR THUMB. 198 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:03,054 WHERE DID YOU LEARN THAT? 199 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:06,391 WELL, THAT'S THE WAY WE ALWAYS DID IT 200 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:09,027 WHEN WE WENT TO THE RANGE. 201 00:12:09,029 --> 00:12:14,833 I SWEAR, THERE WAS NO WAY IT WAS GOING TO GO OFF. 202 00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:17,001 YOU EVER FIRE ONE OF THESE? 203 00:12:17,003 --> 00:12:18,369 NEVER. 204 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:20,972 STRICTLY FOR COMPETITION SHOOTERS. 205 00:12:20,974 --> 00:12:24,309 Cerreta: YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY COCK THE HAMMER. 206 00:12:24,311 --> 00:12:26,010 Shrier: NOW IT'S READY. 207 00:12:26,012 --> 00:12:27,278 ( gun clicks ) 208 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,115 NOW, I KNOW YOU'VE FIRED ONE OF THESE 209 00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:32,350 .357 DOUBLE-ACTION REVOLVER. 210 00:12:32,352 --> 00:12:35,286 THE GUN DOES IT ALL FOR YOU. 211 00:12:35,288 --> 00:12:38,990 SO IT'S POSSIBLE THE KID MADE A LEGITIMATE MISTAKE. 212 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:40,525 POSSIBLE, SURE. 213 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:42,393 I DON'T KNOW. 214 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:43,995 THE KID TAKES AIM 215 00:12:43,997 --> 00:12:46,965 SQUEEZES THE TRIGGER SLOWLY, LIKE HE SAYS. 216 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:48,867 HE'S LOOKING DOWN THE SIGHT. 217 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:51,069 Shrier: IF HE WAS TRAINED TO SHOOT 218 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:53,404 HE WAS TRAINED TO LOOK DOWN THE SIGHTS. 219 00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:55,540 YOU CAN'T TELL ME HE DIDN'T NOTICE 220 00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:57,542 THAT HAMMER COCKING BACK. 221 00:13:02,883 --> 00:13:05,416 HE KNEW THAT GUN WAS GOING TO FIRE. 222 00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:17,428 HOW LONG HAS JAMIE BEEN AT BISHOP ACADEMY? 223 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:20,231 HE CAME HERE THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR. 224 00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:22,367 LATE TRANSFERS ARE NEVER EASY. 225 00:13:22,369 --> 00:13:24,536 JAMIE NEVER GOT OVER THE HUMP. 226 00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,371 Cerreta: IN HIS STUDIES? 227 00:13:26,373 --> 00:13:28,039 HE WAS A FAIR STUDENT. 228 00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:32,110 THE PROBLEM IS, HE NEVER LATCHED ONTO ANY PEER GROUP. 229 00:13:32,112 --> 00:13:34,279 Logan: EXCEPT FOR ROBBIE. 230 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:37,048 ROBBIE WAS A BIT OF AN OUTCAST. 231 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:39,117 NOT TOTALLY. 232 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:41,185 I HAD HOPED HE'D HELP JAMIE ASSIMILATE. 233 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:42,453 NEVER HAPPENED. 234 00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:44,556 YOU EVER TALK TO JAMIE'S FATHER? 235 00:13:44,558 --> 00:13:46,057 INITIAL INTERVIEW 236 00:13:46,059 --> 00:13:48,593 AND ONCE TO ASK ABOUT JAMIE'S MEDICATION. 237 00:13:48,595 --> 00:13:51,296 WHAT KIND OF MEDICATION? 238 00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:54,899 WELL, HIS FILE SAYS IT'S A PSYCHIATRIC PRESCRIPTION. 239 00:13:54,901 --> 00:13:57,569 MR. MASER DOWNPLAYED THE WHOLE THING. 240 00:13:57,571 --> 00:13:59,237 DIDN'T GO INTO DETAILS. 241 00:13:59,239 --> 00:14:02,140 DID HE HAVE MOOD SWINGS OR OUTBURSTS? 242 00:14:02,142 --> 00:14:04,442 NOT THAT THE TEACHERS OBSERVED. 243 00:14:04,444 --> 00:14:08,446 BUT AS I SAID, HE'S A VERY QUIET YOUNG MAN. 244 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:13,184 I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW WELL HIS CLASSMATES KNOW HIM. 245 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:15,386 I GOT THIS WEIRD VIBE FROM HIM. 246 00:14:15,388 --> 00:14:18,323 SOMETIMES HE HAD THIS LOOK, THIS STARE-- 247 00:14:18,325 --> 00:14:22,560 YOU JUST KNEW THE GEARS WERE, LIKE, MASHING UP IN HIS HEAD. 248 00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:24,929 DID HE TRY TO MAKE FRIENDS? 249 00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:26,164 YEAH, AT FIRST. 250 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:28,366 YOU KNOW, NEW KID AT MID-TERM-- 251 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:32,337 BUT WE'VE ALL BEEN GOING TO SCHOOL TOGETHER FOR YEARS. 252 00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:34,172 NOBODY HAD TIME FOR HIM. 253 00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:35,206 EXCEPT ROBBIE. 254 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:36,941 NOW, THAT GUY WAS TWISTED. 255 00:14:36,943 --> 00:14:38,543 TWISTED? HOW? 256 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:40,245 HE WAS ALWAYS TALKING 257 00:14:40,247 --> 00:14:45,250 ABOUT GUNS AND, LIKE, SHOOTING AND GETTING HIGH. 258 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:48,219 DID YOU EVER HEAR JAMIE TALK ABOUT GUNS? 259 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:49,554 NO. THAT WAS ROBBIE. 260 00:14:49,556 --> 00:14:51,890 HE WAS MAXED OUT ON WAR STUFF. 261 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:56,261 WHEN BUSH DID HIS THING IN IRAQ, ROBBIE WAS TOTALLY INTO IT. 262 00:14:56,263 --> 00:14:58,463 HE KNEW EVERY WEAPON THEY HAD. 263 00:14:58,465 --> 00:15:00,431 WE CALLED HIM DEUCE-DEUCE. 264 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:02,400 WHY IS THAT? 265 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:05,336 LAST YEAR, HE SHOWED UP WITH THIS .22. 266 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:08,573 I THINK HIS OLD MAN ENDED UP TAKING IT OFF HIM. 267 00:15:10,377 --> 00:15:12,977 CLAIRE FOUND IT IN HIS DRESSER. 268 00:15:12,979 --> 00:15:16,414 I WAS NEVER ABLE TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER 269 00:15:16,416 --> 00:15:19,450 AS TO WHERE HE GOT IT. 270 00:15:19,452 --> 00:15:20,952 ( sighs ) 271 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,955 THE BOYS SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN HERE? 272 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:26,624 JAMIE'D BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES. 273 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:30,161 HE WAS ALWAYS POLITE. 274 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:31,629 HE DIDN'T TALK MUCH. 275 00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:35,533 ROBBIE LOVED GUNS. 276 00:15:35,535 --> 00:15:37,535 HE WAS FASCINATED 277 00:15:37,537 --> 00:15:39,270 WITH THE FACT 278 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:43,007 THAT JAMIE'S FATHER WAS A COMPETITION SHOOTER. 279 00:15:43,009 --> 00:15:46,411 NEITHER OF US KNOW WHY, OR WHERE IT CAME FROM 280 00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:50,415 BUT HE JUST... HE SEEMED TO, UH... 281 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:53,418 FEED OFF OF IT. 282 00:16:01,328 --> 00:16:03,461 FIRST FEW MONTHS, NOTHING. 283 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:06,698 WOULDN'T TALK TO ME ABOUT THE NEW SCHOOL. 284 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:09,567 WHEN HE FIRST HOOKED UP WITH ROBBIE 285 00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:12,303 I WAS HAPPY HE'D MADE A FRIEND. 286 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:14,339 HE HAS TROUBLE MAKING FRIENDS? 287 00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:17,575 JAMIE WOULDN'T WIN ANY POPULARITY CONTESTS. 288 00:16:17,577 --> 00:16:19,610 HE'S... SELF-RELIANT. 289 00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:21,980 DID SOMETHING CHANGE YOUR MIND 290 00:16:21,982 --> 00:16:23,448 ABOUT ROBBIE? 291 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,750 A FEW MONTHS AGO, JAMIE ASKED ME 292 00:16:25,752 --> 00:16:29,721 IF HE AND ROBBIE COULD COME TO THE FIRING RANGE WITH ME. 293 00:16:29,723 --> 00:16:32,590 I GOT THE IMPRESSION IT WAS ROBBIE'S IDEA. 294 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:35,593 SO WHAT ABOUT THE MEDICATION? 295 00:16:35,595 --> 00:16:36,728 WHAT ABOUT IT? 296 00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:39,597 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IT'S FOR? 297 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:41,733 WHEN DID JAMIE START TAKING IT? 298 00:16:41,735 --> 00:16:43,067 I'D BE HAPPY TO 299 00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:45,536 IF I DIDN'T THINK I'D GO TO JAIL. 300 00:16:45,538 --> 00:16:46,537 WHAT? 301 00:16:46,539 --> 00:16:49,674 IT'S TERMS OF MY DIVORCE. 302 00:16:51,044 --> 00:16:54,779 IT'S PARTLY WHY JAMIE'S ON MEDICATION. 303 00:16:54,781 --> 00:16:57,515 WOULD YOU TELL US YOUR EX-WIFE'S ADDRESS. 304 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,419 305 WEST 21st STREET. 305 00:17:01,421 --> 00:17:03,688 BUT IT WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD. 306 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:06,758 SHE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT EITHER. 307 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,760 YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE ACADEMY 308 00:17:08,762 --> 00:17:12,063 THE ONLY GUN I EVER SHOT WAS A BB GUN. 309 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:15,066 MY DAD LET ME SHOOT A STACK OF NEWSPAPERS 310 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,034 IN THE BASEMENT. 311 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,503 ONE DAY, I WING A PIGEON, RIGHT? 312 00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:21,039 HE FLIPS OUT, THROWS THE GUN AWAY 313 00:17:21,041 --> 00:17:23,775 MAKES ME BRING THE DAMN BIRD TO THE VET 314 00:17:23,777 --> 00:17:25,777 IN A SHOE BOX ON THE BUS. 315 00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:27,612 TO THIS DAY, I HATE PIGEONS. 316 00:17:27,614 --> 00:17:29,280 THEY'RE RATS WITH WINGS. 317 00:17:29,282 --> 00:17:31,115 WHEN YOU GIVE A BOY A GUN 318 00:17:31,117 --> 00:17:33,451 HE MAY GO AFTER BIGGER GAME. 319 00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:35,453 THAT WAS MY MOTHER'S ARGUMENT. 320 00:17:35,455 --> 00:17:37,455 THAT'S EVERY MOTHER'S ARGUMENT. 321 00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:39,390 "YOU'LL PUT YOUR EYE OUT." 322 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:40,658 "YOU'LL GET HURT." 323 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:42,794 I BET JAMIE'S MOTHER'S NO DIFFERENT. 324 00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:45,530 I CAN'T. 325 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:49,434 JAMIE'S THERAPY IS... TIED TO THE DIVORCE. 326 00:17:49,436 --> 00:17:51,736 IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE REASON WE SPLIT. 327 00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:54,472 YOU DIVORCED BECAUSE JAMIE'S IN THERAPY? 328 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:58,843 NO. THE INCIDENT THAT LED TO THE THERAPY. 329 00:17:58,845 --> 00:18:01,079 YOU CAN'T PUSH ME ON THIS. 330 00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:02,080 IT'S BEEN SEALED. 331 00:18:02,082 --> 00:18:04,549 PART OF THE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT 332 00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:07,385 WAS THAT IAN AND I HONOR THAT SEAL. 333 00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:11,089 MRS. MASER, A BOY IS DEAD. 334 00:18:11,091 --> 00:18:13,558 ALL OF OUR INSTINCTS TELL US 335 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,794 THERE'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD KNOW HERE. 336 00:18:16,796 --> 00:18:19,597 HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO JAMIE LATELY? 337 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:23,367 IT'S NOT MY TIME TO SEE HIM. 338 00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:25,136 TERMS OF THE DIVORCE. 339 00:18:25,138 --> 00:18:27,338 EVEN UNDER EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES? 340 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:29,540 HIS FATHER IS VERY ABSOLUTE 341 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,642 ABOUT THINGS. 342 00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:33,678 MY SON AND I 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,582 ARE JUST GETTING BACK ON TRACK, DETECTIVE. 344 00:18:37,584 --> 00:18:39,650 IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. 345 00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:43,387 HE DOESN'T REALLY TALK TO ME THAT MUCH. 346 00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:44,622 SHE SAID SEALED. 347 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,792 THAT CAN MEAN ONLY ONE THING: HE WAS IN TROUBLE. 348 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:49,794 OH, NO, NO, WAIT A MINUTE. 349 00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:53,698 ARE YOU TELLING ME THE KID'S JUVENILE RECORD IS SEALED 350 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:56,167 AND FORBIDS THEM TO TALK ABOUT IT? 351 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:58,603 WHAT KIND OF A SETTLEMENT IS THAT? 352 00:18:58,605 --> 00:18:59,737 IF WHAT HAPPENED 353 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:02,440 WAS SEVERE ENOUGH TO SPLIT THE FAMILY 354 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:05,877 IT COULD BE ARGUED BOTH ARE IN HIS BEST INTEREST. 355 00:19:05,879 --> 00:19:09,614 GREAT. SOMETHING'S THERE, AND WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT. 356 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:11,182 TO GET A COURT ORDER 357 00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:14,785 TO OPEN THE RECORD, I MUST SHOW RELEVANCE, WHICH MEANS 358 00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:16,854 KNOWING WHAT'S IN THE RECORD. 359 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:18,189 WHAT A SYSTEM. 360 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:20,491 WITH A PROSECUTOR'S JUDGE 361 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:21,826 MAYBE WE GET LUCKY 362 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:23,895 BUT JAMIE'S A YOUTHFUL OFFENDER. 363 00:19:23,897 --> 00:19:26,597 AND THEN WE'VE SHOWN OUR HAND. 364 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:27,632 YOU KNOW WHAT? 365 00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:28,900 SCREW THE RECORD. 366 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:30,902 SOME COP HAD TO WRITE IT UP. 367 00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:33,171 THEY USED TO LIVE IN CHELSEA. 368 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:35,706 THE REPORT MUST BE IN THE PRECINCT. 369 00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:37,909 THE SEAL APPLIES TO POLICE FILES 370 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:40,178 AS WELL AS TO REPORTS AND NOTES 371 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:41,812 OF THE INVESTIGATING OFFICER. 372 00:19:41,814 --> 00:19:44,649 YOU THINK IT APPLIES TO WHAT THE OFFICER 373 00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:46,851 MIGHT SAY A FEW YEARS LATER? 374 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:57,795 HAPPENED OVER NEAR EAST RIVER PARK. 375 00:19:57,797 --> 00:20:00,798 SOMETHING I NEVER LIKED ABOUT THAT CASE. 376 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,468 WHAT ARE TWO KIDS DOING THERE WITH A GUN, HUH? 377 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:07,638 THE ONLY THING THERE IS JUNKIES AND SQUATTERS. 378 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,474 AND THE OTHER KID ENDS UP DEAD. 379 00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:11,809 AN ACCIDENT. RIGHT. 380 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,812 AN ACCIDENT ASKING TO HAPPEN IS WHAT I SAY. 381 00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:16,447 RAY... 382 00:20:16,449 --> 00:20:18,616 DID YOU KEEP YOUR OWN NOTES? 383 00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:19,884 OFF THE RECORD. 384 00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:24,822 NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU MIGHT NEED THEM, RIGHT? 385 00:20:24,824 --> 00:20:26,857 IT HAPPENED WHEN JAMIE WAS 13. 386 00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:29,560 THE OTHER KID, GRAHAM CAMPBELL, WAS 12. 387 00:20:29,562 --> 00:20:31,896 IT WAS THE SAME THING-- ONE TO THE HEAD. 388 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:35,566 THE GUN WAS A COLT PYTHON REGISTERED TO IAN MASER. 389 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:36,734 RULED AN ACCIDENT. 390 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:39,220 HE TOLD THE DETECTIVE 391 00:20:39,221 --> 00:20:41,705 HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW HIS FRIEND HOW THE GUN WORKED. 392 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:44,909 JAMIE'S 13, WHITE, MIDDLE CLASS, NO PRIORS. 393 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,877 Cerreta: HERE'S THE KICKER. 394 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:49,313 HE THOUGHT YOU HAD TO COCK THE HAMMER BY HAND 395 00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:50,948 BEFORE YOU COULD FIRE IT. 396 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:52,717 SAME EXCUSE AS NOW. 397 00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:53,985 WORKED THE FIRST TIME. 398 00:20:53,987 --> 00:20:54,986 WHY CHANGE IT? 399 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:56,587 ANYTHING ELSE? 400 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:57,888 THE TWO SHOOTINGS 401 00:20:57,890 --> 00:21:00,191 ARE IDENTICAL. 402 00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:02,493 MASER CLAIMS JAMIE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THE GUN. 403 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:03,694 HE'S LYING. 404 00:21:03,696 --> 00:21:05,796 WE GET A STATEMENT; HE PERJURES HIMSELF. 405 00:21:05,798 --> 00:21:06,864 IT GOES DEEPER. 406 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:09,634 WE KNOW HE WANTED TO SCARE ROBBIE. 407 00:21:09,636 --> 00:21:11,969 WE MUST PROVE HE WANTED TO KILL HIM. 408 00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:14,872 HE'D POINTED A GUN AT SOMEBODY BEFORE. 409 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:17,341 HE HAD PULLED THE TRIGGER BEFORE. 410 00:21:17,343 --> 00:21:19,510 HE KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES. 411 00:21:19,512 --> 00:21:21,912 THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PROVE INTENT? 412 00:21:21,914 --> 00:21:26,517 LEGALLY, WE MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO USE THE FIRST SHOOTING. 413 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,819 YOU WANT TO GO DOWN 414 00:21:28,821 --> 00:21:29,820 TO MAN TWO? 415 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,822 I WANT HIM AT MURDER TWO. 416 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:34,325 DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE TO HUMAN LIFE. 417 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,860 NO NEED TO PROVE INTENT. 418 00:21:35,862 --> 00:21:38,796 AND WE TRY HIM AS AN ADULT. 419 00:21:46,773 --> 00:21:47,905 JAMIE. 420 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:49,340 COME HERE A MINUTE. 421 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:50,908 WHAT? UH... 422 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,043 COME ON, GET IN. 423 00:21:52,045 --> 00:21:53,611 WHA..? 424 00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:54,879 COME ON, GET IN. 425 00:21:54,881 --> 00:21:56,314 WHY? WHAT FOR? 426 00:21:56,316 --> 00:21:57,982 YOU'RE UNDER ARREST. WHAT? 427 00:21:57,984 --> 00:22:00,017 YOU SAID EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE. 428 00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:01,686 TAKE IT EASY. 429 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,921 WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE? 430 00:22:03,923 --> 00:22:05,089 GET AWAY FROM ME! 431 00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:07,925 DO US A FAVOR, AND GET IN THE CAR. 432 00:22:07,927 --> 00:22:09,960 READ HIM HIS FREAKING RIGHTS, WILL YOU. 433 00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,998 Barnett: YOUR HONOR, IT'S MORE THAN OUTRAGEOUS. 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,400 THEY PRACTICALLY DRAGGED THE CHILD 435 00:22:16,402 --> 00:22:18,436 OUT OF THE CLASSROOM. 436 00:22:18,438 --> 00:22:20,071 SPARE US THE HYPERBOLE, COUNSELOR. 437 00:22:20,073 --> 00:22:21,639 THE PEOPLE ARE INFORMED 438 00:22:21,641 --> 00:22:24,108 THAT THE OFFICERS WERE OUTSIDE SCHOOL GROUNDS. 439 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:25,109 TEN FEET? 440 00:22:25,111 --> 00:22:27,078 Barnett: GIVEN THE DEFENDANT'S AGE 441 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,081 AND THE STRONG-ARM INTENTIONS OF THE D.A.'s OFFICE 442 00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:33,084 WE INTEND TO ASK FOR REMOVAL OF THESE PROCEEDINGS 443 00:22:33,086 --> 00:22:34,418 TO FAMILY COURT. 444 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:35,353 YOUR HONOR 445 00:22:35,355 --> 00:22:36,987 THE PEOPLE FEEL... 446 00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:38,989 I'M AWARE OF THE DEFENDANT'S AGE 447 00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:40,458 MR. BARNETT. 448 00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:43,394 YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION, FEEL FREE 449 00:22:43,396 --> 00:22:45,463 BUT I SEE NOTHING HERE TO INDICATE 450 00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:48,065 WHY HE SHOULDN'T BE TRIED AS AN ADULT. 451 00:22:48,067 --> 00:22:52,036 SUPREME CRIMINAL TO RETAIN JURISDICTION. 452 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,972 DEFENDANT REMANDED TO CUSTODY OF HIS FATHER. 453 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:58,976 OUR CLAIM OF DIMINISHED CAPACITY IS BASED ON THE FACT 454 00:22:58,978 --> 00:23:01,545 THAT AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING 455 00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:04,148 JAMIE WAS INVOLUNTARILY INTOXICATED. 456 00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:07,451 HE WAS LEGALLY TAKING A PRESCRIBED MEDICATION 457 00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:10,755 UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A LICENSED PSYCHIATRIST. 458 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:13,124 TRACON IS KNOWN TO HAVE ADVERSE REACTIONS 459 00:23:13,126 --> 00:23:15,293 IN CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. 460 00:23:15,294 --> 00:23:17,461 WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT IT AFFECTED HIS ABILITY 461 00:23:17,463 --> 00:23:20,531 TO APPRECIATE THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACTIONS. 462 00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:23,634 HE HAD THE PRESENCE OF MIND TO LIE TO THE OFFICERS 463 00:23:23,636 --> 00:23:26,003 AND TO HIDE THE FACT THAT 464 00:23:26,005 --> 00:23:27,705 HE WAS INVOLVED IN A PRIOR SHOOTING. 465 00:23:27,707 --> 00:23:30,040 THE PRIOR INCIDENT IS NOT RELEVANT. 466 00:23:30,042 --> 00:23:32,743 I'M SURE A JURY WILL HAVE NO TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING 467 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,111 THAT MY YOUNG CLIENT 468 00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:36,046 WAS FRIGHTENED AND CONFUSED. 469 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,182 HE WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE 470 00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:39,683 OF A POWERFUL PSYCHOTROPIC DRUG. 471 00:23:39,685 --> 00:23:41,419 TRACON DID THE SHOOTING? 472 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:43,421 I HAVE THE PRECEDENTS TO BACK IT UP-- 473 00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:44,688 GRUNDBERG, PETTY. 474 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:46,690 CHARGES DISMISSED AGAINST A WOMAN 475 00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:48,125 WHO SHOT HER MOTHER 476 00:23:48,127 --> 00:23:51,695 AND AN ACQUITTAL ON A GUY WHO STABBED HIS EX-WIFE? 477 00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:53,798 NEITHER CASE INVOLVED TRACON. 478 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,667 THE DEFENDANTS DID NOT HAVE A PREVIOUS HISTORY 479 00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:58,736 OF RECKLESS OR VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. 480 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:00,104 COME ON, FELLOWS. 481 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:01,505 YOU'RE BLOWING SMOKE. 482 00:24:01,507 --> 00:24:03,674 NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE AND NO TIME. 483 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:06,444 I WON'T PLEA THIS DOWN TO A SLAP ON THE WRIST. 484 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,480 MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET A JURY DECIDE. 485 00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:10,781 JAMIE? 486 00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:14,552 HAVE A NICE DAY. 487 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:18,055 NOBODY'S RESPONSIBLE ANYMORE. 488 00:24:18,057 --> 00:24:20,658 YOU KILL SOMEBODY, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. 489 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:24,228 YOU'RE ADDICTED TO SUGAR 490 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:25,629 OR THE WRONG MEDICATION 491 00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:28,232 AND SOMEONE SHOULD PAY YOU A MILLION DOLLARS 492 00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:29,834 FOR YOUR SUFFERING. 493 00:24:29,836 --> 00:24:32,236 WHO'S DOING JAMIE'S EVALUATION? 494 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,705 I'LL CALL OLIVET. 495 00:24:37,577 --> 00:24:40,478 Woman: YOU EVER HAD ANY BLACKOUTS? 496 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,480 WHAT ABOUT THE LAST TIME 497 00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:45,149 THINGS DIDN'T TURN OUT THE WAY YOU WANTED-- 498 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:46,650 HOW DID YOU HANDLE IT? 499 00:24:46,652 --> 00:24:48,519 DID YOU GET MAD? 500 00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,221 DID YOU YELL? 501 00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:52,223 DID YOU TRASH YOUR ROOM? 502 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:54,225 I JUST GOT OVER IT. 503 00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:56,060 HOW ABOUT YOUR DAD? 504 00:24:56,062 --> 00:24:59,163 WHEN HE GETS ANGRY, DOES HE LET YOU KNOW IT? 505 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:01,265 YEAH, I GUESS SO. 506 00:25:01,267 --> 00:25:03,267 WHAT ABOUT WITH ROBBIE? 507 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:06,103 WHEN YOU WERE POINTING THE GUN AT HIM 508 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:09,106 WHAT WERE YOU FEELING? 509 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:10,875 I WASN'T FEELING ANYTHING. 510 00:25:10,877 --> 00:25:14,278 WHAT DO YOU THINK ROBBIE WAS FEELING? 511 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,146 SCARED. 512 00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:17,882 HE FELT SCARED. 513 00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:22,586 AND GRAHAM CAMPBELL-- HOW ABOUT HIM? 514 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:24,288 I DON'T REMEMBER. 515 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:27,091 YOU REMEMBER HOW YOU FELT? 516 00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:30,561 I THINK YOU DO. 517 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,263 YOU WANT TO TELL ME 518 00:25:32,265 --> 00:25:33,631 ABOUT IT? 519 00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:35,633 NOTHING TO TELL. 520 00:25:35,635 --> 00:25:38,168 I HEAR YOU SAY THAT, BUT I'M SEEING 521 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:40,070 SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 522 00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:43,073 ( sighs ) 523 00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:46,310 LET'S TRY SOMETHING ELSE HERE. 524 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:48,312 OKAY. 525 00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:50,180 I WANT YOU TO MAKE UP A STORY 526 00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:52,616 BASED ON THE PICTURES I'LL SHOW YOU. 527 00:25:52,618 --> 00:25:55,152 TELL ME THE CHARACTERS, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING 528 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:58,322 WHAT LED UP TO THE SCENE IN THE PICTURE. 529 00:25:58,324 --> 00:25:59,690 OKAY? 530 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:05,596 WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS PICTURE, JAMIE? 531 00:26:05,598 --> 00:26:06,864 I DON'T KNOW. 532 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,866 YES, YOU DO. 533 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,202 ( sighs ) 534 00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:14,805 HE'S TRYING TO LEARN THE VIOLIN. 535 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:16,807 WHAT ELSE? 536 00:26:16,809 --> 00:26:19,343 HE'S PRETTY LAME WITH IT. 537 00:26:19,345 --> 00:26:22,346 WHAT ABOUT THE LOOK ON HIS FACE? 538 00:26:22,348 --> 00:26:24,015 WHAT ABOUT IT? 539 00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,683 DO YOU THINK HE'LL PICK IT UP? 540 00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,951 THINK HE'LL TRY IT? 541 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:27,952 I DON'T KNOW. 542 00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:29,653 THINK HE WANTS TO? 543 00:26:29,655 --> 00:26:32,690 THINK HE'S GOT TO. 544 00:26:32,692 --> 00:26:34,224 WHY'S THAT? 545 00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:36,594 'CAUSE IF HE DOESN'T 546 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,963 HIS OLD MAN WILL PROBABLY BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM. 547 00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:40,331 PROBABLY SERVES HIM RIGHT. 548 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,333 WHY DOES IT SERVE HIM RIGHT? 549 00:26:42,335 --> 00:26:44,234 HE'S GOT TO LEARN IT, RIGHT? 550 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:45,836 I DON'T KNOW. DOES HE? 551 00:26:45,838 --> 00:26:47,838 What's the point otherwise? 552 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,239 Of what? 553 00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,241 Of taking the stupid lessons 554 00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:53,978 if he's not going to learn how to play it? 555 00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:55,980 HE'S A PSYCHOLOGICALLY ABUSED KID 556 00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:57,982 WITH AN INCREDIBLY EXACTING FATHER. 557 00:26:57,984 --> 00:26:59,883 CONFIRMS WHAT CERRETA AND LOGAN 558 00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:01,619 PICKED UP FROM THE MOTHER. 559 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,754 ABUSED KIDS FOLLOW ONE OF TWO TRACKS-- 560 00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:06,957 THEY PLACE THEMSELVES WHERE THEY WILL BE VICTIMIZED 561 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:09,393 OR THEY IDENTIFY WITH THE AGGRESSOR-- 562 00:27:09,395 --> 00:27:11,328 INTERNALIZE HIS QUALITIES 563 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:12,963 HIS POWER, HIS STRENGTH. 564 00:27:12,965 --> 00:27:15,866 Stone: AND HE BECAME THE AGGRESSOR. 565 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:18,335 WHAT EFFECT DID TRACON HAVE ON HIS BEHAVIOR? 566 00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:20,237 IT'S AN ANTI-ANXIETY DRUG. 567 00:27:20,239 --> 00:27:24,008 IT CAN AFFECT MOOD, MEMORY, ANY NUMBER OF VARIABLES. 568 00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:25,676 I THINK JAMIE'S BEHAVIOR 569 00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,278 PREDATES ADMINISTRATION OF THE DRUG. 570 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,681 JAMIE EXHIBITS REPETITION COMPULSION-- 571 00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:33,684 A NEED TO ACT OUT HIS SUBCONSCIOUS CONFLICT. 572 00:27:33,686 --> 00:27:35,352 HE WANTS TO FEEL POWERFUL. 573 00:27:35,354 --> 00:27:37,688 HE ENJOYS THE FEAR HE CREATES. 574 00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:40,224 THAT'S WHAT THIS GAME WITH THE FENWICK KID 575 00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:41,225 WAS ALL ABOUT. 576 00:27:41,227 --> 00:27:42,693 DRUG OR NO DRUG 577 00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:45,429 HE'LL PLAY IT AGAIN THE FIRST CHANCE HE GETS. 578 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,765 THE FIRST SHOOTING-- THAT WAS PART OF THE GAME? 579 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:51,301 Olivet: HE BECAME PRETTY AGITATED WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP. 580 00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:54,271 HE WAS PROBABLY TRAUMATIZED BY THE INCIDENT. 581 00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:56,273 BUT NOT ENOUGH TO STAY AWAY 582 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:57,441 FROM GUNS. 583 00:27:57,443 --> 00:28:00,911 BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS PLEA IT OUT. 584 00:28:00,913 --> 00:28:04,314 MAKE RESIDENTIAL PSYCHIATRIC CARE A CONDITION. 585 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:06,817 Stone: SIX MONTHS OF DAY CARE? 586 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:08,952 HE HAD TWO YEARS OF THERAPY. 587 00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:12,690 HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER. 588 00:28:12,692 --> 00:28:14,058 HE DIDN'T CARE. 589 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,793 YOU CANNOT MAKE THE CASE 590 00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:19,029 WITHOUT ENTERING THE FIRST SHOOTING IN EVIDENCE. 591 00:28:19,031 --> 00:28:20,764 YOU GOT A SEALED RECORD. 592 00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:22,466 YOU GOT A JUVENILE OFFENDER. 593 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:25,436 ANY JURY WOULD CONVICT THIS BOY 594 00:28:25,438 --> 00:28:30,340 ON THE SECOND SHOOTING SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE FROM THE FIRST. 595 00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:33,377 JAMIE SAID HE SHOT ROBBIE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW 596 00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:35,345 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DOUBLE-ACTION 597 00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:37,381 AND SINGLE-ACTION HANDGUN. 598 00:28:37,383 --> 00:28:39,383 THE CAMPBELL SHOOTING DEMONSTRATES 599 00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:41,351 HE'D LEARNED THAT LESSON TWO YEARS AGO 600 00:28:41,353 --> 00:28:42,720 WHEN HE CLAIMED 601 00:28:42,722 --> 00:28:44,354 TO HAVE MADE THE SAME MISTAKE. 602 00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:48,058 TAKE A RUN AT JUDGE MARKMAN. 603 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:51,829 JAMIE MASER SHOOTING GRAHAM CAMPBELL AT AGE 13 604 00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:55,833 HAD TO HAVE BEEN THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INCIDENT 605 00:28:55,835 --> 00:28:57,835 IN THE BOY'S LIFE TO DATE. 606 00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:59,837 IF THAT IS NOT ADMITTED, IT ALLOWS 607 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,506 A DEFENSE CLAIM THAT'S CLEARLY FRAUDULENT. 608 00:29:02,508 --> 00:29:03,741 YOUR HONOR 609 00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:04,975 IT'S IRRELEVANT. 610 00:29:04,977 --> 00:29:08,278 OUR DEFENSE ISN'T BASED ON A CLAIM OF MISTAKE. 611 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,514 Robinette: BUT HE DID MAKE THE STATEMENTS. 612 00:29:10,516 --> 00:29:12,983 THE INVESTIGATING OFFICERS WILL TESTIFY 613 00:29:12,985 --> 00:29:15,986 JAMIE TOLD THEM HE WAS CONFUSED ON THE GUN. 614 00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:17,988 THE PRIOR SHOOTING SHOULD BE ADMITTED 615 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,990 TO SHOW THAT TO BE A LIE. 616 00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:22,860 UNDER A TECHNICAL APPLICATION OF MOLINEAUX, YOU'RE RIGHT 617 00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,361 BUT I HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT 618 00:29:24,363 --> 00:29:27,397 THE IMPACT THIS PRIOR SHOOTING WILL HAVE ON THE JURY 619 00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:29,099 AS I'M SURE YOU DID. 620 00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:30,367 IN MY OPINION 621 00:29:30,369 --> 00:29:32,536 IT WAS SO INFLAMMATORY, SO PREJUDICIAL 622 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:35,072 IT WILL OUTWEIGH ITS VALUE AS EVIDENCE. 623 00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:40,778 SO I CAN'T ALLOW IT TO BE INTRODUCED. 624 00:29:45,451 --> 00:29:49,019 Jamie: EVERYTHING WAS IN SLOW MOTION. 625 00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:52,489 IT WAS WEIRD. 626 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:58,128 I FELT LIKE I WAS STANDING OUTSIDE MY BODY... 627 00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:00,330 AND WATCHING. 628 00:30:00,332 --> 00:30:04,568 I MEAN, I COULD SEE ME... AND, AND ROBBIE. 629 00:30:04,570 --> 00:30:06,570 LIKE IN A MOVIE. 630 00:30:08,507 --> 00:30:12,910 AND I WANTED TO SEE HOW FAR THE TRIGGER WOULD GO. 631 00:30:12,912 --> 00:30:17,481 I WANTED TO SEE WHAT ROBBIE WOULD DO. 632 00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:20,350 DID HE SAY ANYTHING TO YOU? 633 00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:25,022 I DON'T... I DON'T KNOW. 634 00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:27,891 IT WAS LIKE I WAS IN A BUBBLE. 635 00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:30,894 I COULDN'T HEAR. 636 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:34,832 I JU... I JUST KEPT PULLING THE TRIGGER, AND... 637 00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:36,567 THERE WAS THIS FLASH. 638 00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:38,168 Barnett: WHEN THE GUN 639 00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:40,971 WENT OFF? 640 00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:43,974 I DON'T REMEMBER. 641 00:30:43,976 --> 00:30:46,410 I... 642 00:30:46,412 --> 00:30:49,947 THERE WAS ROBBIE JUST LAYING THERE... 643 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:51,215 BLEEDING... 644 00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:54,151 IT WAS LIKE THE MOVIE WAS STILL GOING ON. 645 00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:56,420 I COULDN'T FEEL. 646 00:30:56,422 --> 00:31:02,125 I HEARD THIS ROARING SOUND IN MY EARS. 647 00:31:02,127 --> 00:31:06,196 I JUST COULDN'T STOP WATCHING... 648 00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:15,873 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 649 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,641 MR. STONE. 650 00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:20,410 NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, YOUR HONOR. 651 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:22,512 SUBJECT TO RECALL. 652 00:31:23,649 --> 00:31:25,048 SINCE ITS INTRODUCTION 653 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:27,251 TRACON HAS HAD A FAVORABLE SUCCESS RATE 654 00:31:27,253 --> 00:31:29,419 BUT IT HAS ALSO GENERATED 655 00:31:29,421 --> 00:31:33,423 TEN TIMES MORE ADVERSE REACTION REPORTS THAN SIMILAR DRUGS. 656 00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,626 WHAT KIND OF ADVERSE REACTIONS, DOCTOR? 657 00:31:35,628 --> 00:31:37,961 NERVOUS SYSTEM DISTURBANCES-- 658 00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:41,098 REBOUND ANXIETY 659 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,534 AMNESIA, HOSTILITY, DELUSIONS. 660 00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:47,504 IT'S MY OPINION TRACON CAN IGNITE REPRESSED ANGER. 661 00:31:47,506 --> 00:31:50,674 CAN YOU OFFER AN OPINION ABOUT HIS EMOTIONAL STATE 662 00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,576 AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING? 663 00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:56,980 Doctor: BASED ON HIS BEHAVIOR SINCE BEING PRESCRIBED TRACON 664 00:31:56,982 --> 00:31:58,982 IT'S MY OPINION JAMIE WAS SUFFERING 665 00:31:58,984 --> 00:32:01,018 FROM TRACON INTOXICATION SYNDROME. 666 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,286 THANK YOU, DOCTOR. 667 00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:04,221 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 668 00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:10,560 DOCTOR, COULD YOU DESCRIBE DISSOCIATIVE PHENOMENA? 669 00:32:10,562 --> 00:32:14,264 Doctor: IT'S A FEELING OF STANDING OUTSIDE ONESELF-- 670 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:18,035 OF BEING A WITNESS TO SOMETHING HAPPENING TO YOU. 671 00:32:18,037 --> 00:32:19,937 Stone: THAT SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR 672 00:32:19,939 --> 00:32:22,472 TO A SYMPTOM OF TRACON INTOXICATION. 673 00:32:22,474 --> 00:32:23,473 YES. 674 00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:24,608 ISN'T IT TRUE 675 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:26,276 THAT VICTIMS OF SEXUAL 676 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:27,978 OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE 677 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,980 ALSO SUFFER FROM DISSOCIATIVE PHENOMENA? 678 00:32:29,982 --> 00:32:31,181 YES, THAT'S TRUE. 679 00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:34,217 HAVE YOU EVER HEARD 680 00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:36,053 OF REPETITION COMPULSION? 681 00:32:36,055 --> 00:32:37,321 YES. 682 00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:39,757 WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT. 683 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:42,192 IT'S THE NEED TO REPEATEDLY ACT OUT AN INNER CONFLICT. 684 00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:44,194 Stone: AN INNER CONFLICT THAT MAY STEM 685 00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:46,596 FROM PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE? 686 00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:48,565 YES, POSSIBLY, BUT... 687 00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,067 SUBJECT MAY BE 688 00:32:50,069 --> 00:32:52,970 FEEDING OFF A SURROGATE FIGURE'S FEAR 689 00:32:52,972 --> 00:32:55,505 ENCOURAGING HIM TO REENACT A SITUATION 690 00:32:55,507 --> 00:32:57,975 HE FOUND PLEASING ONCE BEFORE? 691 00:32:57,977 --> 00:33:00,077 YOUR HONOR, THE PROSECUTION'S QUESTIONS 692 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,145 SEEM DESIGNED TO ELICIT INFORMATION 693 00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:04,281 THAT IS NOT ADMISSIBLE HERE. 694 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:05,716 WATCH YOUR STEP, MR. STONE. 695 00:33:05,718 --> 00:33:08,652 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR. 696 00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:12,089 Stone: HOW OLD WERE YOU, JAMIE 697 00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:14,624 WHEN YOU FIRST LEARNED TO SHOOT A HANDGUN? 698 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:16,626 I WAS 11. 699 00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:18,328 MY, UH, FATHER TAUGHT ME 700 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:21,164 HOW TO SHOOT HIS TARGET PISTOL. 701 00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,702 IS THIS YOUR FATHER'S TARGET PISTOL? 702 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:28,238 Jamie: YEAH. 703 00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:31,108 HOW DO YOU FIRE IT? 704 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:33,243 DO YOU JUST PULL THE TRIGGER? 705 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,646 NO. YOU HAVE TO COCK THE HAMMER FIRST. 706 00:33:36,648 --> 00:33:38,315 WOULD YOU SHOW ME. 707 00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:40,183 YOUR HONOR, OBJECTION. 708 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:42,386 OVERRULED. 709 00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:45,355 GO ON, JAMIE. 710 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,559 OKAY, WELL... 711 00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:53,030 YOU COCK THE HAMMER FIRST WITH YOUR THUMB. 712 00:33:53,032 --> 00:33:55,165 THEN YOU JUST PULL THE TRIGGER. 713 00:33:58,037 --> 00:34:00,570 IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM THIS GUN-- 714 00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:03,173 THE ONE YOU SHOT ROBBIE WITH? 715 00:34:03,175 --> 00:34:04,274 YEAH. 716 00:34:04,276 --> 00:34:06,143 HOW'S IT DIFFERENT? 717 00:34:06,145 --> 00:34:09,379 THAT ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COCK THE HAMMER FIRST. 718 00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:11,314 YOU JUST PULL THE TRIGGER. 719 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:12,816 WOULD YOU SHOW ME. 720 00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:19,222 WHO TAUGHT YOU TO HOLD THE GUN LIKE THAT? 721 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:21,124 MY DAD. 722 00:34:21,126 --> 00:34:23,160 SO HOW DID IT FEEL 723 00:34:23,162 --> 00:34:25,228 POINTING A GUN AT YOUR FRIEND? 724 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,164 IT WAS A GAME. OH, IT'S FUN? 725 00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:29,299 SO IT WAS A GAME 726 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,301 POINTING A GUN AT YOUR FRIEND. 727 00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:34,104 WAS SQUEEZING THE TRIGGER PART OF THE GAME? 728 00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,205 YEAH. 729 00:34:35,207 --> 00:34:36,840 COULD YOU SHOW ME? 730 00:34:36,842 --> 00:34:38,775 UM... 731 00:34:38,777 --> 00:34:40,744 PLEASE? 732 00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:43,213 YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER VERY SLOWLY 733 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:45,348 AND THE HAMMER CAME BACK, RIGHT? 734 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:47,651 DID YOU SEE IT MOVING? 735 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,119 I DON'T REMEMBER. 736 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,121 ROBBIE SEE IT MOVING? I DON'T KNOW. 737 00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,722 DID HE SAY ANYTHING AT ALL? 738 00:34:52,724 --> 00:34:53,857 NO. 739 00:34:53,859 --> 00:34:56,426 SO YOU KEPT PULLING THE TRIGGER, RIGHT? 740 00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:57,861 YEAH. 741 00:34:57,863 --> 00:34:59,729 YOU HELD IT ON HIM THE WHOLE TIME? 742 00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:00,730 YEAH. 743 00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:02,332 HOW DID YOU FEEL? 744 00:35:02,334 --> 00:35:03,467 I DON'T KNOW. 745 00:35:03,469 --> 00:35:06,103 HOW DID ROBBIE FEEL? WAS HE AFRAID? 746 00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:07,404 I DON'T KNOW. ( hammer clicks ) 747 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:13,677 IT... THIS ISN'T FAIR. 748 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,378 IT WAS JUST A GAME. 749 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:17,314 IT WASN'T LIKE THIS. 750 00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:19,883 WE... WE DIDN'T KNOW. 751 00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:22,285 IT'S... IT'S MY MEDICINE. 752 00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:23,253 SEE... 753 00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:24,855 MOVE TO STRIKE, YOUR HONOR. 754 00:35:24,857 --> 00:35:26,723 IT MAKES ME CONFUSED. 755 00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:28,325 Judge: JURY WILL DISREGARD. 756 00:35:45,210 --> 00:35:46,910 MADAM FOREMAN 757 00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,379 HAS THE JURY REACHED THE UNANIMOUS DECISION? 758 00:35:49,381 --> 00:35:51,248 YES, WE HAVE, YOUR HONOR. 759 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:53,150 HOW DID YOU FIND? 760 00:35:53,152 --> 00:35:55,185 ON THE SOLE COUNT OF THE INDICTMENT-- 761 00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:56,887 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE-- 762 00:35:56,889 --> 00:36:01,158 WE FIND THE DEFENDANT, JAMIE MASER, NOT GUILTY 763 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,360 BY REASON OF MENTAL DEFECT. 764 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:09,266 GOOD BOY. 765 00:36:09,268 --> 00:36:10,767 GOOD JOB. 766 00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:12,335 WAY TO GO. 767 00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:13,904 THANK YOU. 768 00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:23,380 PULL EVERYTHING YOU CAN ON THE FIRST SHOOTING. 769 00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:25,415 GET THE RECORD UNSEALED. 770 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,384 WE'LL REOPEN THE INVESTIGATION. 771 00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:29,352 IT'S A TWO-YEAR-OLD CASE, BEN. 772 00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:32,389 THERE'S NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON MURDER. 773 00:36:36,528 --> 00:36:38,295 THE KID LIVES ON FEAR. 774 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:40,530 CONVICTING HIM ON THE FIRST SHOOTING 775 00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:43,433 WILL BE TWICE AS HARD AS THE LAST ONE-- 776 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:46,536 A TWO-YEAR-OLD CASE, LESS EVIDENCE TO WORK WITH 777 00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:50,674 AND YOU CAN'T USE THE FACT IT MATCHES THE FENWICK SHOOTING 778 00:36:50,676 --> 00:36:52,442 BECAUSE THAT SHOOTING 779 00:36:52,444 --> 00:36:54,544 HAS NOT EVEN TAKEN PLACE. 780 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:57,614 I'M OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS. 781 00:36:58,984 --> 00:37:01,418 NOTHING OUT OF THE PARENTS? 782 00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:04,254 THEY'RE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THE DIVORCE. 783 00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:06,623 WE KNOW THE FATHER LIED ABOUT JAMIE'S 784 00:37:06,625 --> 00:37:07,757 KNOWLEDGE OF GUNS. 785 00:37:07,759 --> 00:37:09,259 TWO BOYS DEAD. 786 00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,261 NOT AN OUNCE OF GUILT. 787 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,362 WE'LL FIND SOMETHING. 788 00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:14,297 WITH THE CASE SEALED? 789 00:37:14,299 --> 00:37:15,765 CERRETA AND LOGAN HAVE NOTES 790 00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:17,601 FROM THE FIRST DETECTIVE. 791 00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:21,404 YOU BETTER WALK THROUGH IT THEN. 792 00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:23,640 GRAHAM CAMPBELL WAS FOUND RIGHT HERE. 793 00:37:23,642 --> 00:37:27,277 THE POSITION OF THE BODY INDICATES HE WAS KNEELING 794 00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:28,411 WHEN HE WAS SHOT. 795 00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:30,647 JAMIE MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT RIGHT HERE. 796 00:37:30,649 --> 00:37:34,417 THERE WEREN'T ANY POWDER BURNS ON GRAHAM EITHER, SO... 797 00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:36,253 Cerreta: THAT WAS DISCOUNTED. 798 00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:37,587 GULLIKSON SAID IT RAINED 799 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,623 THE DAY THEY FOUND THE BODY. 800 00:37:39,625 --> 00:37:41,725 BUT ASSUMING THERE WAS NO RESIDUE 801 00:37:41,727 --> 00:37:42,859 TO BEGIN WITH... 802 00:37:42,861 --> 00:37:45,462 THAT WOULD PUT JAMIE FAR ENOUGH AWAY 803 00:37:45,464 --> 00:37:47,731 TO MAKE AN ACCIDENT VERY UNLIKELY. 804 00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:50,467 SAME GAME, SAME EXCUSE. 805 00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:52,335 ONE SHOT TO THE HEAD 806 00:37:52,337 --> 00:37:55,605 BOTH TIMES FIRED FROM SIX FEET AWAY. 807 00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:57,841 ANY TAKERS ON COINCIDENCE? 808 00:37:59,044 --> 00:38:02,545 YOU TAUGHT JAMIE TO FIRE A SINGLE-ACTION HANDGUN 809 00:38:02,547 --> 00:38:03,546 WHEN HE WAS 12. 810 00:38:03,548 --> 00:38:05,282 YES, AT A FIRING RANGE. 811 00:38:05,284 --> 00:38:08,585 AND THE DOUBLE-ACTION HANDGUN HE USED TWO YEARS AGO-- 812 00:38:08,587 --> 00:38:10,754 YOU TAUGHT HIM TO SHOOT THAT TOO? 813 00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:12,522 NO. I TOLD YOU BEFORE 814 00:38:12,524 --> 00:38:16,593 I ONLY WANTED HIM INTERESTED IN TARGET SHOOTING. 815 00:38:16,595 --> 00:38:18,662 WHAT IS THIS, NET FISHING? 816 00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,730 IT'S ABOUT YOUR CLIENT LYING 817 00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:22,432 TO PROTECT HIS SON. 818 00:38:22,434 --> 00:38:25,068 HE LIED ABOUT JAMIE'S KNOWLEDGE OF GUNS 819 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:26,636 IN THE FENWICK SHOOTING. 820 00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:28,772 HE MAY HAVE TOLD THE SAME LIE 821 00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:30,607 IN THE CAMPBELL SHOOTING. 822 00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:31,775 AND? 823 00:38:31,777 --> 00:38:33,376 PERJURY IS A FELONY. 824 00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:35,612 IT CARRIES SOME TIME. 825 00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:37,847 I DON'T RESPOND TO THREATS, MR. STONE. 826 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:39,416 TWO BOYS ARE DEAD 827 00:38:39,418 --> 00:38:42,085 AND I HOLD YOU GREATLY RESPONSIBLE-- 828 00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:45,922 IF NOT LEGALLY, ETHICALLY-- FOR BOTH THOSE DEATHS. 829 00:38:45,924 --> 00:38:48,525 THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS 830 00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:50,093 ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. 831 00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:52,862 YOU CAN BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU WANT. 832 00:38:59,471 --> 00:39:02,439 IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN AN "E" FELONY 833 00:39:02,441 --> 00:39:04,574 TO LEVERAGE ANYTHING OUT OF HIM. 834 00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,676 FIND OUT WHERE HE DID HIS SHOOTING 835 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,178 TWO YEARS AGO 836 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,679 AND GET US IN TO SEE PAMELA MASER 837 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:10,747 AND HER LAWYER. 838 00:39:19,558 --> 00:39:21,608 HERE HE IS. 839 00:39:21,609 --> 00:39:23,659 IAN MASER WAS A MEMBER TILL TWO YEARS AGO. 840 00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:24,828 THINK HE MOVED. 841 00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:26,963 HIS CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS SHOW 842 00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:29,666 HE HAD BEEN COMING HERE FOR SIX YEARS. 843 00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,601 HIS KID WAS A MEMBER TOO. 844 00:39:31,603 --> 00:39:33,636 YOU GIVE MEMBERSHIPS TO KIDS? 845 00:39:33,638 --> 00:39:35,538 IT'S A PROMOTIONAL THING. 846 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:38,608 KIDS LIKE HAVING THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP CARDS. 847 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,411 THEY CAN'T SHOOT WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS. 848 00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,513 MASER BRING HIS SON IN OFTEN? 849 00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:44,914 I DON'T RECALL HOW OFTEN. 850 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:47,650 MASER KEPT A TARGET PISTOL HERE. 851 00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:48,651 I REMEMBER HIM 852 00:39:48,653 --> 00:39:50,754 TEACHING THE KID HOW TO DO IT. 853 00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:52,389 I USED TO HEAR HIM 854 00:39:52,391 --> 00:39:53,890 HOLLER AT HIM ALL THE TIME. 855 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:55,892 MASER EVER FIRE OTHER GUNS? 856 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:59,462 I SEE WHERE HE STARTED BUYING .357 AMMO 857 00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:00,697 BEFORE HE MOVED... 858 00:40:00,699 --> 00:40:01,831 OH, YEAH... 859 00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:05,468 AND THEN HE GOT HIMSELF A COLT PYTHON. 860 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:07,837 IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY FOR A WHILE. 861 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:08,972 WHAT WAS? 862 00:40:08,974 --> 00:40:10,707 THE COLT IS A BIG GUN. 863 00:40:10,709 --> 00:40:12,475 SEEING THAT YOUNG KID 864 00:40:12,477 --> 00:40:14,944 TRYING TO KEEP A BEAD ON THE TARGET. 865 00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,683 I NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GUNS. 866 00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,852 THAT WAS BETWEEN IAN AND JAMIE. 867 00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:24,621 JAMIE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT? 868 00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:27,690 HE'D TELL ME IF HE'D PLEASED HIS FATHER 869 00:40:27,692 --> 00:40:29,526 BUT SPECIFICALLY, NO. 870 00:40:29,528 --> 00:40:31,628 YOUR HUSBAND NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT? 871 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:33,763 THE GUNS WERE MALE BUSINESS. 872 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,666 IAN ASSUMED I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND 873 00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:37,901 WHICH WASN'T TRUE 874 00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:40,203 OR THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW 875 00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:41,671 WHICH WAS TRUE. 876 00:40:41,673 --> 00:40:44,607 Stone: YOU SEPARATED NOT LONG AFTER 877 00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:46,009 THE FIRST SHOOTING INCIDENT. 878 00:40:46,011 --> 00:40:47,677 IS THAT CORRECT? 879 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:50,480 IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE GUNS? 880 00:40:53,652 --> 00:40:55,718 OR THE SHOOTING? 881 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:58,588 OR THE WAY YOUR HUSBAND TREATS JAMIE? 882 00:40:58,590 --> 00:41:00,690 SHAKY GROUND, MR. STONE. 883 00:41:00,692 --> 00:41:03,726 YOU KNOW THAT INFORMATION IS SEALED. 884 00:41:03,728 --> 00:41:07,931 WHAT I KNOW, SEALED OR NOT, IS THAT TWO BOYS ARE DEAD 885 00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:09,866 AND YOUR SON MAY OR MAY NOT 886 00:41:09,868 --> 00:41:11,968 HAVE BEEN IRREPARABLY DAMAGED 887 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,671 BY HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FATHER. 888 00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:17,974 I THINK YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO 889 00:41:17,976 --> 00:41:20,610 THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE SETTLEMENT 890 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:22,479 OR THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT 891 00:41:22,481 --> 00:41:24,714 IT CAN'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR WORTH IT. 892 00:41:30,722 --> 00:41:34,491 Mrs. Maser: IAN WASN'T AN EASY MAN TO LIVE WITH. 893 00:41:34,493 --> 00:41:38,094 THINGS WERE HIS WAY OR NO WAY 894 00:41:38,096 --> 00:41:42,031 AND IF THEY WEREN'T HIS WAY, JAMIE OR I PAID FOR IT. 895 00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:45,835 AFTER GRAHAM CAMPBELL WAS SHOT 896 00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:49,038 THINGS GOT WAY OUT OF HAND. 897 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,641 OUT OF HAND? 898 00:41:51,643 --> 00:41:53,643 ANYTHING WOULD SET IAN OFF. 899 00:41:53,645 --> 00:41:54,644 ANYTHING. 900 00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:57,647 JAMIE WAS OUT OF CONTROL. 901 00:41:57,649 --> 00:42:00,917 IAN AND I SEPARATED AND JAMIE CAME TO LIVE WITH ME. 902 00:42:00,919 --> 00:42:03,286 HE STARTED TAKING THINGS OUT ON ME-- 903 00:42:03,288 --> 00:42:04,854 ACTING LIKE HIS FATHER. 904 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,623 IN WHAT WAY? 905 00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:08,858 HE THREATENED ME. 906 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:11,294 WITH WHAT? 907 00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:14,114 A GUN. 908 00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:16,933 Stone: AND DID YOU KEEP A GUN IN THE APARTMENT? 909 00:42:16,935 --> 00:42:19,736 NO. IT WAS ONE OF IAN'S. 910 00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:23,106 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LOADED OR NOT. 911 00:42:23,108 --> 00:42:25,542 HE POINTED IT AT ME. 912 00:42:25,544 --> 00:42:27,944 I MUST HAVE LOOKED BLANK OR SOMETHING. 913 00:42:27,946 --> 00:42:29,012 HE SAID... 914 00:42:30,849 --> 00:42:33,850 "YOU DON'T BELIEVE I'D DO IT, DO YOU? 915 00:42:33,852 --> 00:42:36,819 GRAHAM DIDN'T BELIEVE ME EITHER." 916 00:42:39,624 --> 00:42:43,960 YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE AFRAID OF YOUR OWN SON. 917 00:42:52,103 --> 00:42:54,037 "YOU DON'T BELIEVE I'D DO IT" 918 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,739 AND "GRAHAM DIDN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER." 919 00:42:56,741 --> 00:42:59,642 DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT JAMIE MEAN BY THAT? 920 00:42:59,644 --> 00:43:02,679 GRAHAM DIDN'T BELIEVE JAMIE WOULD SHOOT HIM. 921 00:43:02,681 --> 00:43:06,583 DID YOU BELIEVE HE'D SHOOT YOU? 922 00:43:07,652 --> 00:43:09,586 I DID. 923 00:43:10,622 --> 00:43:13,656 UNDER THE TERMS OF YOUR DIVORCE SETTLEMENT 924 00:43:13,658 --> 00:43:16,626 YOU HAVE BEEN FORBIDDEN TO MAKE ANY MENTION 925 00:43:16,628 --> 00:43:18,628 OF THE GRAHAM CAMPBELL INCIDENT 926 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:19,629 IS THAT TRUE? 927 00:43:19,631 --> 00:43:20,630 YES. 928 00:43:20,632 --> 00:43:22,699 YET HERE YOU ARE TESTIFYING. 929 00:43:22,701 --> 00:43:24,100 WHY IS THAT? 930 00:43:24,102 --> 00:43:25,835 I GAVE UP EVERYTHING. 931 00:43:25,837 --> 00:43:27,837 I GAVE UP CUSTODY OF MY SON 932 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:31,741 AND NOW I'M FORFEITING ANY FINANCIAL SETTLEMENT 933 00:43:31,743 --> 00:43:33,710 BY TESTIFYING. 934 00:43:33,711 --> 00:43:35,678 THE ONLY CONDITION I PUT ON THE DIVORCE 935 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,714 WAS THAT JAMIE RECEIVE THERAPY 936 00:43:37,716 --> 00:43:39,849 TO HELP HIM DEAL WITH THE SHOOTING 937 00:43:39,851 --> 00:43:41,851 AND HIS SUBSEQUENT BEHAVIOR. 938 00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:44,754 OBVIOUSLY THAT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH. 939 00:43:44,756 --> 00:43:47,440 A SECOND BOY IS DEAD 940 00:43:47,441 --> 00:43:50,125 AND I COULDN'T LIVE WITH MYSELF IF I LET THAT GO BY 941 00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:52,095 AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. 942 00:43:52,097 --> 00:43:55,732 ARE YOU AWARE OF THE CONSEQUENCES 943 00:43:55,734 --> 00:43:58,735 OF YOUR TESTIFYING TODAY? 944 00:43:58,737 --> 00:44:03,640 I KNOW THAT JAMIE COULD GO TO SPOFFORD JUVENILE HALL 945 00:44:03,642 --> 00:44:07,043 AND AFTER THAT, MAYBE PRISON. 946 00:44:07,045 --> 00:44:09,245 I JUST... 947 00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:15,985 LEAVING HIM WITH HIS FATHER JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT NOW. 948 00:44:22,060 --> 00:44:25,895 JAMIE NEVER FIRED THAT GUN. 949 00:44:25,897 --> 00:44:27,730 EARLIER WE HEARD TESTIMONY 950 00:44:27,732 --> 00:44:29,999 FROM THE OWNER OF THE FIRING RANGE 951 00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:31,167 THAT HE SAW YOU 952 00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:34,203 TEACH JAMIE TO SHOOT A COLT PYTHON .357. 953 00:44:34,205 --> 00:44:37,273 WHY WOULD HE FABRICATE A STORY LIKE THAT? 954 00:44:37,275 --> 00:44:39,742 I WAS IN THE BOOTH WITH MY SON. 955 00:44:39,744 --> 00:44:41,444 I KNOW WHICH GUN HE USED. 956 00:44:41,446 --> 00:44:44,747 THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS NOTHING TO GAIN 957 00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:47,884 FROM LYING ABOUT SEEING YOUR SON SHOOT A .357. 958 00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:52,021 WHY WOULD HE CONCOCT A MEMORY ABOUT A SMALL BOY FIRING A GUN 959 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,856 TOO BIG FOR HIM TO SHOOT? 960 00:44:53,858 --> 00:44:56,125 I CAN'T ADDRESS THIN MOTIVES. 961 00:44:56,127 --> 00:44:57,794 WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN? 962 00:44:57,796 --> 00:44:58,895 OBJECTION. 963 00:44:58,897 --> 00:45:00,797 SUSTAINED. 964 00:45:04,235 --> 00:45:06,803 I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 965 00:45:06,805 --> 00:45:11,708 I KNOW MY SON WOULD NOT WILLFULLY KILL THAT BOY. 966 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:13,776 I TAUGHT HIM RIGHT FROM WRONG. 967 00:45:13,778 --> 00:45:15,778 I AM HIS FATHER. 968 00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:18,147 EVERYTHING HE LEARNED 969 00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:19,782 EVERYTHING HE IS... 970 00:45:19,784 --> 00:45:20,917 Judge: MR. MASER. 971 00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:24,987 YOU MAY STEP DOWN. 972 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,301 ON THE SOLE COUNT OF THE INDICTMENT-- 973 00:45:38,303 --> 00:45:41,904 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE-- HOW DOES THE JURY FIND? 974 00:45:41,906 --> 00:45:43,840 WE FIND THE DEFENDANT 975 00:45:43,842 --> 00:45:45,975 JAMIE MASER-- GUILTY. 976 00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:55,985 JAMIE... 977 00:46:19,177 --> 00:46:21,844 DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES. 978 00:46:21,846 --> 00:46:25,815 I'M SURE PAMELA MASER IS TURNING HERSELF AROUND 979 00:46:25,817 --> 00:46:27,183 WITH THAT SAME THOUGHT. 980 00:46:27,185 --> 00:46:29,318 SHE'S TOUGH. 981 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,053 MAYBE... 982 00:46:31,055 --> 00:46:33,923 OR MAYBE SHE JUST GAVE IN. 983 00:46:33,925 --> 00:46:35,925 DID THE INEVITABLE. 984 00:46:35,927 --> 00:46:38,327 THINK YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT? 985 00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:40,713 GIVE UP MY CHILD? 986 00:46:40,714 --> 00:46:43,098 NOT WITHOUT RIPPING MYSELF IN HALF, I COULDN'T. 987 00:47:02,053 --> 00:47:06,422 Captioning made possible by UNIVERSAL TELEVISION and NBC 988 00:47:06,424 --> 00:47:10,960 Captioned by The Caption Center WGBH Educational Foundation