1 00:00:05,739 --> 00:00:07,375 - IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, 2 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:09,710 THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE, 3 00:00:09,743 --> 00:00:11,479 YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS-- 4 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:13,314 THE POLICE, WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME, 5 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:16,150 AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS. 6 00:00:16,184 --> 00:00:18,486 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 7 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:20,521 - SO HOW WAS SCHOOL TODAY? 8 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:21,689 kids: GOOD. 9 00:00:21,722 --> 00:00:23,457 - ONLY GOOD? 10 00:00:23,491 --> 00:00:25,659 all: NO, IT WAS GREAT. 11 00:00:25,693 --> 00:00:27,095 - AND TOMORROW WILL BE? 12 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:28,762 all: EVEN BETTER. 13 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:34,135 [safety belts clicking] 14 00:00:34,168 --> 00:00:36,370 HANG ON, GUYS. I'LL GO GET MOMMY. 15 00:00:36,404 --> 00:00:39,473 [car door opening, dinging sound] 16 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:40,708 [car door closing] 17 00:00:44,545 --> 00:00:47,047 JOY. 18 00:00:49,417 --> 00:00:51,152 [sighs] 19 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:00,494 JOY! 20 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:05,699 - JOY JOHNSON. 21 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:07,235 BLUNT FORCE TO THE HEAD. 22 00:01:07,268 --> 00:01:09,137 BASED ON LIVIDITY AND BODY TEMP, 23 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:11,405 I PUT TIME OF DEATH BETWEEN 12:00 AND 2:00. 24 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,841 LOOKS LIKE A PALM PRINT IN THE BLOOD OVER THERE. 25 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:15,509 - THE TROPHY'S THE MURDER WEAPON? 26 00:01:15,543 --> 00:01:16,677 - LOOKS LIKE. 27 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:19,513 - "SPECIAL ATHLETICS." 28 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:22,483 - I LEFT WORK AT 3:00 TO PICK UP THE KIDS. 29 00:01:22,516 --> 00:01:24,785 ON THURSDAYS, WE PUT THE YOUNG ONES IN DAY CARE 30 00:01:24,818 --> 00:01:26,887 SO MY WIFE CAN HAVE A FEW HOURS OFF. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,190 - WAS ANYTHING MISSING FROM THE HOUSE? 32 00:01:29,223 --> 00:01:31,625 - I KEPT SOME MONEY, MAYBE $8,000, 33 00:01:31,659 --> 00:01:33,594 IN THE DESK FOR EMERGENCIES. 34 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:35,463 - A NEIGHBOR TOLD THE RESPONDING OFFICERS 35 00:01:35,496 --> 00:01:37,431 THAT HE SAW A BOUNCY HISPANIC WOMAN 36 00:01:37,465 --> 00:01:38,666 LEAVING THE HOUSE AROUND NOON. 37 00:01:38,699 --> 00:01:41,169 - BOUNCY, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? 38 00:01:41,202 --> 00:01:42,236 - EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY. 39 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:45,473 UM, LARRY, I CAN'T FIND OLIVIA'S LADYBUG PILLOW. 40 00:01:45,506 --> 00:01:46,674 SHE'S THROWING A FIT. 41 00:01:46,707 --> 00:01:48,276 - LOOK IN THE VAN. 42 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:50,844 OR SOMETIMES HENRY TAKES IT. 43 00:01:50,878 --> 00:01:52,246 SHE'S OUR BABYSITTER. 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,415 SHE'S GOT THE KIDS STASHED AT A NEIGHBORS. 45 00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:57,385 - DID YOUR KIDS SEE ANY OF WHAT'S INSIDE? 46 00:01:57,418 --> 00:01:58,752 YOUR WIFE? 47 00:01:58,786 --> 00:01:59,820 - NO. GOD. 48 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:02,190 I WENT IN AHEAD. 49 00:02:02,223 --> 00:02:04,192 THEY WAITED IN THE VAN. 50 00:02:04,225 --> 00:02:05,759 - YOUR KIDS, THEY'RE ALL SPECIAL NEEDS? 51 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:07,161 - YEAH. 52 00:02:07,195 --> 00:02:09,297 WHEN WE REALIZED WE COULDN'T GET PREGNANT, 53 00:02:09,330 --> 00:02:11,799 WE ADOPTED A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL WITH DOWN SYNDROME. 54 00:02:11,832 --> 00:02:13,801 JUST KEPT GOING. 55 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,203 - NINE TIMES. 56 00:02:15,236 --> 00:02:16,304 - TEN. 57 00:02:16,337 --> 00:02:18,506 OUR OLDEST, TIM, IS IN HIGH SCHOOL. 58 00:02:18,539 --> 00:02:20,708 HE'S AUTISTIC. 59 00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:22,210 HIGH-PERFORMING. 60 00:02:22,243 --> 00:02:24,412 HE SHOULD BE HOME BY NOW. 61 00:02:24,445 --> 00:02:25,946 - LOOKS LIKE HE'S BEEN HOME ALREADY. 62 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:29,183 THERE'S A YELLOW BOOK BAG IN THERE WITH HIS NAME ON IT. 63 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,255 - DAD. 64 00:02:34,288 --> 00:02:37,325 MOM'S DEAD. 65 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:48,669 [dramatic music] 66 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:56,710 * 67 00:03:32,012 --> 00:03:34,815 - I LEFT SCHOOL AFTER FOURTH PERIOD AND WALKED HOME. 68 00:03:34,848 --> 00:03:38,852 IT'S EIGHT BLOCKS--TWO LONG ONES AND SIX SHORT ONES. 69 00:03:38,886 --> 00:03:41,722 SO IT TOOK 14 MINUTES. 70 00:03:41,755 --> 00:03:44,292 I SAW MY MOM ON THE FLOOR. 71 00:03:44,325 --> 00:03:46,660 I TRIED TO WAKE HER UP, BUT SHE WAS DEAD. 72 00:03:46,694 --> 00:03:50,030 - IS THAT HOW YOU GOT BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS? 73 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:52,433 - YEAH, BECAUSE I TRIED TO WAKE HER UP. 74 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:54,435 - WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL THE POLICE? 75 00:03:54,468 --> 00:03:57,671 - BECAUSE THE POLICE ALWAYS SUSPECT THE PERSON 76 00:03:57,705 --> 00:03:59,340 WHO WAS CLOSE TO THE BODY, 77 00:03:59,373 --> 00:04:01,342 OR SOMETIMES THE BOYFRIEND. 78 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:04,945 - OR SOMETIMES THE PERSON WHO DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE. 79 00:04:06,046 --> 00:04:07,848 - I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE. 80 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:10,651 - HE LOVES COP SHOWS ON TV. 81 00:04:10,684 --> 00:04:12,386 HE WANTS TO BE A DETECTIVE. 82 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:16,657 IF THIS WASN'T WHAT IT IS... 83 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:18,992 COMING HERE WOULD BE THE GREATEST DAY OF HIS LIFE. 84 00:04:19,026 --> 00:04:22,029 - HAS HE EVER BEEN VIOLENT TOWARDS ANYONE IN THE FAMILY? 85 00:04:22,062 --> 00:04:23,931 - NO, NO, NEVER. 86 00:04:23,964 --> 00:04:25,466 HE'S A GOOD KID. 87 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:26,467 - THE THING IS, TIM, 88 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:30,304 WE WERE WONDERING WHY YOU LEFT SCHOOL EARLY. 89 00:04:30,338 --> 00:04:32,873 - OTHER KIDS PICK ON ME. 90 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:35,876 THEY MOVE MY THINGS AROUND AND I HAVE TO PUT THEM BACK, 91 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:37,878 OR THEY TAKE MY THINGS EVEN. 92 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:39,980 - IS THAT WHY YOU WERE THROWING PENCILS? 93 00:04:41,915 --> 00:04:43,484 - WE TALKED TO YOUR SCHOOL, TIM. 94 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:44,985 WE KNOW THEY SENT YOU HOME 95 00:04:45,018 --> 00:04:47,855 BECAUSE YOU WERE THROWING PENCILS AT OTHER BOYS. 96 00:04:47,888 --> 00:04:50,691 WHY WERE YOU DOING THAT? 97 00:04:50,724 --> 00:04:53,527 - MAYBE WHEN YOU GOT HOME, YOU TOLD YOUR MOTHER WHAT HAPPENED, 98 00:04:53,561 --> 00:04:54,895 AND SHE GOT MAD. 99 00:04:54,928 --> 00:04:56,664 - I DIDN'T TALK TO HER, SHE WAS DEAD. 100 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:57,965 - HOW'D YOU GET IN THE HOUSE? 101 00:04:57,998 --> 00:05:00,801 YOU HAVE A KEY? 102 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:05,939 - MY FATHER GAVE ME ONE BECAUSE I WAS TRUSTWORTHY. 103 00:05:05,973 --> 00:05:07,675 - LOOK, TIM... 104 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:09,042 THIS COULD'VE BEEN AN ACCIDENT. 105 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:11,845 NOW IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED, 106 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:13,914 THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TELL US. 107 00:05:13,947 --> 00:05:16,016 - I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL YOU. 108 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:19,086 - YOU COULD TELL US WHY YOU WERE MAD AT SCHOOL. 109 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:25,959 - OKAY, I DID IT. 110 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:27,695 I KILLED HER. 111 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:32,433 - NO, SEE-- 112 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:35,002 HE WOULDN'T. 113 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:38,906 - OKAY, WE JUST NEED YOU TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. 114 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:41,509 - I TOLD MY MOM WHAT HAPPENED AND SHE GOT MAD. 115 00:05:44,945 --> 00:05:47,014 - TIM... 116 00:05:47,047 --> 00:05:50,884 WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO TELL US WHY YOU WERE THROWING PENCILS? 117 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:54,488 WE'RE POLICE DETECTIVES. 118 00:05:54,522 --> 00:05:56,957 WE NEED YOUR HELP. 119 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:58,992 YOU DO WANNA HELP US, DON'T YOU? 120 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:03,464 - YES. 121 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:05,499 - THEN ANSWER MY QUESTION. 122 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:11,605 - YESTERDAY AFTER SECOND PERIOD, 123 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,075 DJ ASKED IF HE COULD LOOK AT MY FANNY PACK. 124 00:06:15,108 --> 00:06:17,945 IT WAS A TRICK, HE WOULDN'T GIVE IT BACK. 125 00:06:17,978 --> 00:06:20,180 - WHY DIDN'T YOU WANT TO TELL US? 126 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:25,018 - MY KEY WAS IN THE LEFT COMPARTMENT. 127 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:28,155 DAD SAID I WAS TRUSTWORTHY, BUT I WASN'T. 128 00:06:28,188 --> 00:06:30,524 I LET IT GET TAKEN. 129 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:34,928 - DJ LOVELL? - YOU KNOW HIM? 130 00:06:34,962 --> 00:06:36,997 - HIS PARENTS ARE FRIENDS OF OURS. 131 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:39,467 HE'S ALWAYS BEEN KIND TO TIM. 132 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,601 TO ALL OUR KIDS. 133 00:06:40,634 --> 00:06:41,902 - SO HE'S BEEN IN YOUR HOUSE? 134 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:43,637 - SURE. 135 00:06:43,671 --> 00:06:47,107 I CAN'T BELIEVE MY FRIEND'S SON WOULD KILL MY WIFE. 136 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:48,976 - SO... 137 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:51,479 DJ LOVELL, HE'S GOT A RECORD. 138 00:06:51,512 --> 00:06:52,980 PETTY THEFT AND ASSAULT. 139 00:06:56,817 --> 00:06:58,986 [clattering] 140 00:06:59,019 --> 00:07:01,455 - I DIDN'T STEAL TIM JOHNSON'S GAY-ASS FANNY PACK. 141 00:07:01,489 --> 00:07:02,756 - DJ! 142 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:05,025 - SO IF WE LOOK AROUND, WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND IT? 143 00:07:05,058 --> 00:07:06,727 - WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT A FANNY PACK? 144 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,995 JOY WAS MURDERED. 145 00:07:08,028 --> 00:07:09,797 - TIM JOHNSON HAD A KEY IN THERE. 146 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:11,098 WHOEVER KILLED MRS. JOHNSON MIGHT HAVE 147 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:12,633 USED A KEY TO GET INTO THE HOUSE. 148 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:15,002 - YOU THINK DJ WOULD-- 149 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,738 - I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A KEY IN THERE. 150 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:19,239 YES, I TOOK THE FANNY PACK. 151 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:21,074 BUT IT WAS JUST A JOKE THAT GOT OUT OF HAND. 152 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:22,710 - WHERE IS IT? 153 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:24,177 - I THREW THE PACK IN THE DUMPSTER. 154 00:07:24,211 --> 00:07:26,547 - THEN YOU DON'T MIND IF WE LOOK AROUND FOR IT. 155 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:30,250 OR FOR THE $8,000 THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE JOHNSON HOME. 156 00:07:30,283 --> 00:07:31,919 - GO AHEAD, LET THEM LOOK. 157 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:35,155 - WAIT, I WAS OVER THERE TUESDAY. 158 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:37,858 JOY GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH SOMEONE ON THE PHONE. 159 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:38,892 - WHO? 160 00:07:38,926 --> 00:07:40,027 - I DON'T KNOW. 161 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:43,697 BUT WHEN JOY HUNG UP, SHE SAID THE WOMAN WAS A PSYCHO. 162 00:07:43,731 --> 00:07:45,866 SHE SEEMED AFRAID. 163 00:07:47,134 --> 00:07:49,002 - NOTHING'S THERE. NO FANNY PACK, NO CASH. 164 00:07:49,036 --> 00:07:50,504 WE'RE CHECKING DUMPSTERS. 165 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:52,606 - WELL, HE COULD HAVE HIDDEN IT SOMEPLACE ELSE. 166 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,874 - THE JOHNSON HOME PHONE RECORDS. 167 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:55,809 THERE WERE THREE INCOMING CALLS 168 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:58,145 AROUND THE TIME MRS. LOVELL WAS THERE ON TUESDAY. 169 00:07:58,178 --> 00:08:00,180 ONE FROM THE YOUNGER KIDS' SCHOOL, 170 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:02,049 ONE FROM THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE-- 171 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:03,917 PROBABLY ASKING FOR MONEY. 172 00:08:03,951 --> 00:08:06,019 - THOSE PEOPLE NEVER TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. 173 00:08:06,053 --> 00:08:08,989 - AND THE THIRD FROM A BELINDA ALVAREZ. 174 00:08:09,022 --> 00:08:10,223 SUNNYSIDE, QUEENS. 175 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:11,859 - ALVAREZ. 176 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:14,862 THE WOMAN SEEN LEAVING THE JOHNSON HOME WAS HISPANIC. 177 00:08:14,895 --> 00:08:16,096 - RIGHT. 178 00:08:16,129 --> 00:08:18,566 AND BOUNCY. 179 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:22,202 [door opening] 180 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:24,738 - BELINDA ALVAREZ? 181 00:08:24,772 --> 00:08:25,873 - YES? 182 00:08:25,906 --> 00:08:27,641 - DO YOU KNOW JOY JOHNSON? 183 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:29,276 - OH, MY GOD. YES. 184 00:08:29,309 --> 00:08:31,812 POOR WOMAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. 185 00:08:31,845 --> 00:08:33,947 DO YOU WANNA COME IN? 186 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,916 - SURE. 187 00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:37,217 - YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE THE MESS, 188 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:39,019 IT'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE DAYS. 189 00:08:39,052 --> 00:08:41,555 THEY WANNA PLAY WITH EVERY TOY FOR ABOUT ONE SECOND, 190 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:43,657 USUALLY JUST TO HIT EACH OTHER ON THE HEAD. 191 00:08:43,691 --> 00:08:45,593 GOOD THING THEY GOT THICK SKULLS, RIGHT? 192 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:47,628 - IS THIS A DAY CARE? 193 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:48,495 - [laughing] 194 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,631 I WISH I COULD SEND THEM HOME AT NIGHT. 195 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:51,899 NO, THEY'RE ALL MINE. 196 00:08:51,932 --> 00:08:53,667 THREE SINGLES AND A SET OF SEPTUPLETS. 197 00:08:53,701 --> 00:08:55,669 I WAS HOPING FOR OCTUPLETS, 198 00:08:55,703 --> 00:08:59,139 BUT GOD DECIDED TO BESTOW THAT BLESSING ON NADYA SULEMAN. 199 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:02,109 MA, SAY HI TO THE POLICE. 200 00:09:02,142 --> 00:09:05,145 [kids chattering] 201 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,221 - WOW. 202 00:09:16,657 --> 00:09:17,991 TEN KIDS... 203 00:09:18,025 --> 00:09:19,660 JUST LIKE THE JOHNSONS. 204 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:21,629 - ONLY MINE ARE BIOLOGICAL. 205 00:09:21,662 --> 00:09:24,097 WHICH IS WHY I THOUGHT I SHOULD GET THE SHOW. 206 00:09:24,131 --> 00:09:26,967 PLUS I'M A SINGLE MOTHER, SO IT'S MORE DRAMATIC. 207 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,101 - THE SHOW? 208 00:09:28,135 --> 00:09:29,302 - A NEW REALITY SHOW. 209 00:09:29,336 --> 00:09:31,004 LIKE JON AND KATE, YOU KNOW? 210 00:09:31,038 --> 00:09:32,139 ONLY LESS DEPRESSING. 211 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:35,075 - YOU AND THE JOHNSONS WERE INVOLVED IN A REALITY SHOW? 212 00:09:35,108 --> 00:09:36,376 - ONE OF US WAS GONNA BE, 213 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,712 AND I NEEDED IT WAY MORE THAN THEY DID. 214 00:09:38,746 --> 00:09:40,748 I'M BY MYSELF, BARELY SURVIVING ON ASSISTANCE. 215 00:09:40,781 --> 00:09:41,715 THEY'RE RICH. 216 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:44,384 - SO YOU CALLED MRS. JOHNSON THE OTHER DAY-- 217 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,086 - JUST TO LAY OUT THE FACTS. 218 00:09:46,119 --> 00:09:48,388 I EXPLAINED TO HER THAT I'M MUCH YOUNGER AND PRETTIER 219 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:49,389 THAN SHE WAS. 220 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:52,760 AND THAT MY PERSONALITY WILL COME ACROSS ON TV. 221 00:09:52,793 --> 00:09:53,994 DON'T YOU THINK? 222 00:09:54,027 --> 00:09:56,630 - AND YOU WENT TO SEE HER YESTERDAY? 223 00:09:56,664 --> 00:09:58,966 - YES, I MUST'VE JUST MISSED THE MURDERER, IT'S FRIGHTENING. 224 00:09:58,999 --> 00:10:02,402 - HOW DID MRS. JOHNSON REACT TO YOUR ARGUMENTS 225 00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:05,806 ABOUT YOU BEING YOUNGER AND PRETTIER AND ALL? 226 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:07,074 - WE DIDN'T ARGUE. 227 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:08,976 - WE HEARD YOU ARGUED ON THE PHONE. 228 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:10,811 - ON THE PHONE, YES. 229 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:12,713 AND I WAS READY TO ARGUE AGAIN WHEN I WENT TO SEE HER. 230 00:10:12,746 --> 00:10:14,948 BUT SHE SAID THEY WEREN'T GONNA DO THE SHOW. 231 00:10:14,982 --> 00:10:16,950 AS FAR AS SHE WAS CONCERNED, THE SHOW WAS MINE. 232 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:20,020 - SO YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU LEFT HER, SHE WAS ALIVE. 233 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:20,954 - OF COURSE. 234 00:10:20,988 --> 00:10:22,389 AND I WAS ECSTATIC. 235 00:10:22,422 --> 00:10:25,893 [high-pitched squeal] MM, MY OWN SHOW! 236 00:10:25,926 --> 00:10:27,995 - HENCE THE BOUNCY. 237 00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,329 - I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THAT WOMAN IS INVOLVED WITH 238 00:10:29,362 --> 00:10:30,864 COULD BE CALLED REALITY. 239 00:10:30,898 --> 00:10:32,099 SEPTUPLETS? 240 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:35,168 - WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER, I SAY WE FIND HER FERTILITY DOCTOR 241 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:38,005 AND ARREST HIM ON GENERAL PRINCIPLES. 242 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:40,273 - LET'S SEE IF JOHNSON BACKS UP HER STORY. 243 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:42,876 - HEY, IS MR. JOHNSON AROUND? 244 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:44,912 - DOWNSTAIRS. 245 00:10:48,916 --> 00:10:50,183 - SHH. IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN THERE, 246 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,252 I'M GONNA NEED YOU TO SIGN A RELEASE. 247 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:53,386 - WHAT FOR? 248 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:55,355 - SO WE CAN USE YOUR IMAGE ON THE AIR 249 00:10:55,388 --> 00:10:56,957 FOR MERCHANDISING REBROADCASTS. 250 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:59,059 - [chuckling] WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT. 251 00:10:59,092 --> 00:11:00,961 - ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE. 252 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,129 UM, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE MILK? 253 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:04,932 - I WANT ORE JUICE. 254 00:11:04,965 --> 00:11:07,000 - ORE JUICE IT IS. 255 00:11:07,034 --> 00:11:08,068 ANYBODY ELSE? 256 00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:10,203 - YAY! - OKAY. 257 00:11:10,237 --> 00:11:12,072 THAT'S 50. - LOOKS LIKE BELINDA ALVAREZ 258 00:11:12,105 --> 00:11:15,075 WAS LYING ABOUT THE JOHNSONS DROPPING OUT OF THE SHOW. 259 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:17,210 - OR HIS WIFE WANTED TO DROP OUT, 260 00:11:17,244 --> 00:11:18,879 BUT HE DIDN'T. 261 00:11:18,912 --> 00:11:20,413 - THE TRICK IS, YOU GOT TO SHAKE IT UP 262 00:11:20,447 --> 00:11:22,449 OR IT WILL JUST TURN INTO ONE BIG ORANGE. 263 00:11:22,482 --> 00:11:24,184 I'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE. 264 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:32,092 - I LOVE THESE KIDS, BUT THEY SURE MAKE A MESS. 265 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:35,095 MY WIFE WAS SO PATIENT. 266 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:37,264 HM. 267 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:40,100 - CAN WE MAYBE TALK TO YOU WITHOUT THE CAMERAS? 268 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:42,435 - I'M SUPPOSED TO LET THEM FILM EVERYTHING. 269 00:11:42,469 --> 00:11:44,938 I SIGNED A CONTRACT. 270 00:11:44,972 --> 00:11:47,340 - SO NO TIME OFF FOR MOURNING. 271 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:51,745 - LOOK, I KNOW THIS SEEMS ODD WITH JOY JUST DEAD. 272 00:11:51,779 --> 00:11:55,248 BUT WITHOUT HER, I'M GONNA HAVE TO STAY HOME WITH THE KIDS. 273 00:11:55,282 --> 00:11:58,318 AND I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PAY FOR THAT WITHOUT THE SHOW. 274 00:11:58,351 --> 00:12:02,322 - MAYBE WE COULD TALK TO YOU OUT THERE? 275 00:12:02,355 --> 00:12:05,292 - UM...YEAH. SURE, I GUESS. 276 00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:17,104 OKAY, SO WHAT'S GOING ON? 277 00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:18,772 - WE TALKED TO A WOMAN NAMED BELINDA ALVAREZ. 278 00:12:18,806 --> 00:12:20,073 YOU KNOW HER? 279 00:12:20,107 --> 00:12:22,442 - SHE WAS A CANDIDATE FOR THE REALITY SHOW. 280 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:24,812 THE PRODUCERS SAID SHE WAS KIND OF NUTS. 281 00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:26,246 - TURNS OUT, SHE WAS OVER HERE 282 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,048 AROUND THE TIME YOUR WIFE WAS KILLED. 283 00:12:30,217 --> 00:12:32,052 - SHE KILLED JOY? 284 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:33,987 - SHE SAYS SHE DIDN'T. 285 00:12:34,021 --> 00:12:35,255 SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T HAVE A REASON TO 286 00:12:35,288 --> 00:12:38,225 BECAUSE YOUR WIFE TOLD HER THAT YOU WEREN'T GONNA DO THE SHOW. 287 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:41,128 - JOY WOULDN'T SAY THAT. 288 00:12:41,161 --> 00:12:43,196 JOY WANTED THIS SHOW. 289 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:46,533 SHE WANTED THE WORLD TO SEE OUR BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN. 290 00:12:49,136 --> 00:12:51,905 - WHEN DO I GET TO SEE MY DETECTIVES ON TV? 291 00:12:51,939 --> 00:12:53,506 - AH, LUPO DIDN'T WANNA BE ON CAMERA. 292 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:55,275 - I WAS HAVING A BAD BEARD DAY. 293 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,177 - MM, I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING. 294 00:12:57,210 --> 00:12:58,378 [both chuckling] 295 00:12:58,411 --> 00:12:59,479 - PAYING BILLS, LOO? 296 00:12:59,512 --> 00:13:01,514 - CHECKING OUR INSURANCE PLAN. 297 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:03,016 THE LIFETIME CAP. 298 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:04,151 - IS IT ENOUGH? 299 00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:07,220 - WELL, IF I'M CURED IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS IT'S FINE. 300 00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:08,555 OTHERWISE, I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET 301 00:13:08,588 --> 00:13:11,224 A GOOD DEAL ON A USED TOYOTA. 302 00:13:11,258 --> 00:13:13,927 ALL RIGHT, SO SOMEONE'S LYING. 303 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:16,129 IS IT THE HUSBAND OR THE SEPTOMOM? 304 00:13:16,163 --> 00:13:17,230 - I'M LIKING THE HUSBAND. 305 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:18,465 HIS WIFE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE SHOW, 306 00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:19,833 HE WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE HER. 307 00:13:19,867 --> 00:13:22,602 - WITH A SPECIAL ATHLETICS TROPHY? 308 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,938 - I DON'T KNOW, THE SEPTOMOM'S BROUGHT 309 00:13:24,972 --> 00:13:26,373 SO MANY EXTRA PEOPLE INTO THIS WORLD, 310 00:13:26,406 --> 00:13:28,375 SHE MIGHT FEEL ENTITLED TO TAKE ONE OUT, 311 00:13:28,408 --> 00:13:31,178 ESPECIALLY ONE STANDING BETWEEN HER AND HER OWN TV SHOW. 312 00:13:31,211 --> 00:13:32,880 - YEAH, RIGHT. BUT IT DIDN'T WORK. 313 00:13:32,913 --> 00:13:35,015 I MEAN, MR. JOHNSON GOT THE SHOW ANYWAY. 314 00:13:35,048 --> 00:13:37,217 - SO? SHE WASN'T THINKING LIKE A TELEVISION PRODUCER. 315 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:40,253 - SHE DIDN'T SEE THE APPEAL OF THE SINGLE DAD ANGLE. 316 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:41,221 WHAT'S NEXT? 317 00:13:41,254 --> 00:13:43,156 - WE'RE GONNA GO SEE THE ACTUAL PRODUCER. 318 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:45,192 ASK HIM IF MRS. JOHNSON WAS IN OR OUT. 319 00:13:45,225 --> 00:13:46,526 - ALL RIGHT. 320 00:13:50,297 --> 00:13:53,066 - HAVING CAMERAS FOLLOW YOU AROUND 24-7, 321 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:54,301 SOME PEOPLE AREN'T COMFORTABLE. 322 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:55,568 - YEAH, HOW ABOUT MRS. JOHNSON? 323 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:57,137 HOW COMFORTABLE WAS SHE? 324 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:59,106 - SHE HAD QUESTIONS, CONCERNS. 325 00:13:59,139 --> 00:14:01,241 BUT LARRY ASSURED ME SHE WAS TOTALLY ON BOARD. 326 00:14:01,274 --> 00:14:03,110 - LARRY DID? 327 00:14:03,143 --> 00:14:04,311 - I MOSTLY DEALT WITH HIM. 328 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:06,279 AFTER WE PICKED HIS FAMILY FOR THE SHOW, 329 00:14:06,313 --> 00:14:07,514 I FAXED THE CONTRACTS TO HIS OFFICE. 330 00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:10,383 - THE CONTRACT NEEDED TO BE SIGNED BY BOTH OF THEM, RIGHT? 331 00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:11,985 THE HUSBAND AND WIFE? 332 00:14:12,019 --> 00:14:13,253 - ORIGINALLY, SURE. 333 00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:16,289 BUT AFTER SHE DIED, IT ONLY NEEDED HIS. 334 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:17,958 - DID MRS. JOHNSON EVER SIGN IT? 335 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:19,026 - NO, JUST LARRY. 336 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:21,895 I DIDN'T GET IT BACK UNTIL AFTER SHE WAS KILLED. 337 00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:23,296 IT KIND OF WENT DOWN TO THE WIRE. 338 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:24,397 - SO SHE WAS DRAGGING HER FEET. 339 00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:26,066 - OR HE WAS. 340 00:14:26,099 --> 00:14:27,400 HE WANTED A HIGHER COOPERATION FEE, 341 00:14:27,434 --> 00:14:29,970 PLUS MORE OF IT UP FRONT. 342 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:31,138 HE HAS TEN KIDS TO TAKE CARE OF. 343 00:14:31,171 --> 00:14:32,639 PLUS HE'S A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER-- 344 00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:35,508 WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING NOWADAYS. 345 00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:38,245 - THINGS ARE SLOW, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A SECRET. 346 00:14:38,278 --> 00:14:39,379 - HOW SLOW? 347 00:14:39,412 --> 00:14:42,649 - WELL, THERE USED TO BE PEOPLE AT SOME OF THOSE DESKS. 348 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:44,351 - YOU'RE STILL HERE? - VISITING. 349 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:46,686 I'M MR. JOHNSON'S ACCOUNTANT. 350 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:48,555 - AND WHY ARE YOU...? 351 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:51,091 - [whispering] THERE WAS A RAT. 352 00:14:51,124 --> 00:14:52,559 - WHERE? 353 00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:54,661 - OVER THERE, AND THEN IT RAN OVER THERE. 354 00:14:54,694 --> 00:14:57,530 CAN YOU HAND ME THAT FILE? 355 00:14:57,564 --> 00:15:00,934 I'VE BEEN HERE ALL WEEK GOING THROUGH MR. JOHNSON'S BOOKS. 356 00:15:00,968 --> 00:15:02,502 HE'S SHUTTING DOWN A COUPLE OF PROJECTS 357 00:15:02,535 --> 00:15:04,504 THAT LOOKED GREAT ON PAPER TWO YEARS AGO. 358 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,673 NOW HE'S JUST TRYING TO SALVAGE SOME EQUITY. 359 00:15:06,706 --> 00:15:08,175 - YOU WERE HERE ALL WEEK? 360 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,210 INCLUDING THE AFTERNOON MRS. JOHNSON WAS KILLED? 361 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,011 - MM-HMM. 362 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:13,013 - WAS MR. JOHNSON HERE ALL DAY? 363 00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,115 - HE SAID HE HAD TO BE WITH HIS KIDS. 364 00:15:15,148 --> 00:15:17,217 HE WAS GONE WHEN I GOT BACK FROM LUNCH. 365 00:15:18,518 --> 00:15:20,420 - WE WERE AT YOUR OFFICE THIS AFTERNOON. 366 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:22,355 WE PICKED UP THIS PICTURE OF YOU LEAVING THE BUILDING 367 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:24,057 THE DAY YOUR WIFE WAS MURDERED. 368 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:25,358 - 12:15. 369 00:15:25,392 --> 00:15:27,660 YOU TOLD US YOU LEFT WORK AT THREE. 370 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:30,397 - LARRY, ARE YOU COMING? IT'S YOUR TURN. 371 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:32,199 - [nervous breath] JUST A MINUTE. 372 00:15:32,232 --> 00:15:35,268 [kids playing distantly] 373 00:15:35,302 --> 00:15:37,570 - MY SISTER FLEW IN FROM CHICAGO TO HELP OUT. 374 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:40,273 WE'RE PLAYING TWISTER. 375 00:15:40,307 --> 00:15:42,375 LOOK, I CAN EXPLAIN THIS. 376 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:45,245 [sighs] I SHOULD HAVE JUST TOLD YOU BEFORE. 377 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,947 [steps on the stairway] NOT NOW. 378 00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:58,758 I LIED TO YOU ABOUT WHAT I DID THAT DAY. 379 00:15:58,791 --> 00:16:00,327 - THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAME HOME, 380 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,562 YOU TRIED TO CONVINCE YOUR WIFE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT-- 381 00:16:02,595 --> 00:16:05,132 - NO. 382 00:16:05,165 --> 00:16:07,700 I WENT TO SEE MY GIRLFRIEND. 383 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:09,936 - WHAT'S HER NAME? 384 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:16,376 - I STARTED WORKING FOR THEM THREE YEARS AGO. 385 00:16:16,409 --> 00:16:19,346 I BABYSIT, SOMETIMES I COOK. 386 00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:22,049 I HELP JOY OUT IF LARRY HAS TO WORK LATE. 387 00:16:22,082 --> 00:16:23,516 - EXCEPT THE TIMES HE'S WORKING LATE 388 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:25,252 WHEN HE'S ACTUALLY HERE. 389 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:28,488 - IT JUST KIND OF HAPPENED. 390 00:16:28,521 --> 00:16:30,057 - JOY WENT TO BED EARLY, 391 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:33,226 IT WAS RAINING, LARRY OFFERED TO DRIVE YOU HOME, 392 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:35,228 HIS WIFE WAS TOO BUSY WITH THE KIDS 393 00:16:35,262 --> 00:16:36,563 TO PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO HIM. 394 00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:38,665 - WAS HE HERE ON THURSDAY? 395 00:16:38,698 --> 00:16:42,269 - UH, HE CAME OVER ABOUT 1:00. 396 00:16:42,302 --> 00:16:44,471 HE LEFT AT 3:00 TO GET THE KIDS. 397 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:47,207 - BUT HIS OFFICE IS WHAT, LIKE, FIVE MINUTES FROM HERE? 398 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,441 - I GUESS. 399 00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:52,079 - HE HAPPEN TO MENTION IF HE STOPPED BY HOME ON THE WAY OVER? 400 00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:53,546 - NO. 401 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:55,548 HE LOVED JOY. 402 00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:57,150 HE DID. 403 00:16:57,184 --> 00:17:00,687 HE JUST--HE LOVED ME TOO. 404 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,124 - OKAY. SO JOY AND YOU. 405 00:17:04,157 --> 00:17:06,193 TWO WOMEN, ONE MAN. 406 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:08,461 - AS HARD AS IT MIGHT BE TO UNDERSTAND, 407 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:11,231 I LOVED JOY TOO. 408 00:17:11,264 --> 00:17:15,202 AND I WOULD NEVER TAKE HER AWAY FROM THOSE KIDS. 409 00:17:15,235 --> 00:17:17,370 THE WAY THAT THEY FELT ABOUT HER. 410 00:17:17,404 --> 00:17:20,340 WHEN--WHEN LARRY BROUGHT THEM HOME, 411 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:23,643 THEY'D JUMP OUT OF THE CAR PRACTICALLY BEFORE HE STOPPED 412 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:26,379 AND RUN IN TO SEE HER. 413 00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:28,781 - IS THAT A LAUNDRY HAMPER? 414 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:33,186 - YEAH. 415 00:17:33,220 --> 00:17:34,454 - MAN'S SHIRT. 416 00:17:34,487 --> 00:17:35,688 LARRY'S? 417 00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:37,257 - HE KEEPS SOME STUFF HERE. 418 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:40,193 HE ALWAYS CHANGED SHIRTS AFTER HE...VISITED ME. 419 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:42,695 - THE WIFE WOULDN'T NOTICE IF HE LEFT THE HOUSE IN ONE SHIRT, 420 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:44,564 CAME BACK IN ANOTHER? 421 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,666 - HE ALWAYS WEARS BLUE. 422 00:17:48,601 --> 00:17:50,337 - YOU LEFT YOUR OFFICE AT 12:15, 423 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:52,339 YOU GOT TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S AT 1:00. 424 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:55,208 THAT'S PLENTY OF TIME TO STOP BY HOME ON THE WAY. 425 00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:57,210 - I STOPPED FOR A COFFEE. 426 00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:58,711 I HAD A LOT TO THINK ABOUT. 427 00:17:58,745 --> 00:18:00,513 - THE SHIRT YOU WORE TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S HOUSE 428 00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:02,615 HAD SPECKS OF YOUR WIFE'S BLOOD ON IT. 429 00:18:02,649 --> 00:18:04,617 YOU GET THAT FROM THE COFFEE SHOP TOO? 430 00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:05,618 - NO. 431 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:08,688 I DON'T KNOW HOW... 432 00:18:08,721 --> 00:18:10,290 [sighs] 433 00:18:10,323 --> 00:18:13,226 MY DAUGHTER OLIVIA HAS FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME. 434 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:16,296 SHE HAS TROUBLE SPEAKING AND SEEING. 435 00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:18,198 SHE GETS EASILY FRUSTRATED. 436 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:20,200 SHE HAS SEIZURES. 437 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:22,735 THURSDAY MORNING, SHE LASHED OUT AT BREAKFAST 438 00:18:22,769 --> 00:18:26,306 AND CUT MY WIFE WITH A GRAPEFRUIT KNIFE. 439 00:18:26,339 --> 00:18:28,275 I MUST'VE GOTTEN BLOOD ON MY SHIRT. 440 00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:32,145 - THIS GUY HAS ANSWERS FOR EVERYTHING. 441 00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:33,246 - WHAT DO WE HAVE ON HIM? 442 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,815 - WELL, HE CHEATS ON HIS WIFE WITH THE BABYSITTER, 443 00:18:35,848 --> 00:18:38,385 AND THEN SIGNS UP TO BE A TV STAR THE DAY AFTER 444 00:18:38,418 --> 00:18:40,320 THE WIFE IS BLUDGEONED TO DEATH. 445 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:42,155 - OKAY, I'D CONVICT HIM. 446 00:18:42,189 --> 00:18:44,257 BUT WHAT EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE THAT HE'S THE KILLER? 447 00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:45,758 - THE BLOOD ON THE SHIRT. 448 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,760 - WHICH HE JUST EXPLAINED WITH A HEARTRENDING STORY 449 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:49,329 ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER. 450 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,264 - HE LIED ABOUT HIS ALIBI, 451 00:18:51,298 --> 00:18:52,665 HE STILL DOESN'T HAVE ONE. 452 00:18:52,699 --> 00:18:54,301 HE NEEDED THE MONEY HE'D GET FOR GOING ON THE SHOW, 453 00:18:54,334 --> 00:18:55,835 BUT HIS WIFE WOULDN'T SIGN ON. 454 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:58,605 - YEAH, BUT THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE SEPTOMOM. 455 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:00,373 I MEAN, NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST WITNESS. 456 00:19:00,407 --> 00:19:02,409 YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? 457 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:03,510 - WHAT ABOUT THIS? 458 00:19:03,543 --> 00:19:05,945 HIS BABYSITTER-MISTRESS TOLD US THE KIDS 459 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,215 ALWAYS RUN IN THE HOUSE THE SECOND THEY GET HOME. 460 00:19:08,248 --> 00:19:10,183 THE DAY OF THE MURDER, LARRY MADE THEM WAIT 461 00:19:10,217 --> 00:19:11,484 WHILE HE WENT IN FIRST. 462 00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:12,619 WHAT IF HE HELD THEM BACK 463 00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:13,953 BECAUSE HE KNEW HIS WIFE WAS DEAD, 464 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,688 AND HE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE IT? 465 00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:18,691 - THAT WOULD BE THE NICEST THING I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS GUY YET. 466 00:19:18,725 --> 00:19:21,361 - ENOUGH TO ARREST HIM FOR MURDER? 467 00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:23,263 - IF YOU CAN CONFIRM IT, YEAH. 468 00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:25,232 - THE KIDS ARE AT HOME WITH THE SISTER RIGHT NOW. 469 00:19:25,265 --> 00:19:26,566 - WELL, TAKE A RIDE, 470 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:28,335 AND I'LL KEEP MR. JOHNSON COMPANY FOR A WHILE. 471 00:19:28,368 --> 00:19:30,237 - ARE YOU SURE THIS IS OKAY? 472 00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:32,339 MY BROTHER WILL BE HOME ANY MINUTE. 473 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:34,707 - WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THEIR MOTHER'S MURDER. 474 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:36,476 ANYTHING THEY KNOW... 475 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,311 - WHEN YOUR DAD TAKES YOU HOME FROM SCHOOL, 476 00:19:38,345 --> 00:19:40,880 WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO THE HOUSE? 477 00:19:40,913 --> 00:19:43,983 - MY DAD IS GONNA BRING US PIZZA. 478 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:45,952 - OKAY. 479 00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:47,320 UH... 480 00:19:47,354 --> 00:19:48,521 HOW ABOUT YOU? 481 00:19:48,555 --> 00:19:50,823 YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS USUALLY WHEN YOU GET TO THE HOUSE? 482 00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:53,360 - DARNELL HELPS AMY WITH HER SEATBELT, 483 00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:56,529 THEN FREDDY OPENS THE DOOR, AND AMY GETS OUT, 484 00:19:56,563 --> 00:19:59,232 THEN LIFTS JANE OUT. 485 00:19:59,266 --> 00:20:01,901 AND WE ALL GO INSIDE THE HOUSE AND HUG MOM. 486 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:06,373 EXCEPT ANGIE, WHO ALWAYS WAITS FOR DAD. 487 00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:10,343 - SO YOUR DAD COMES IN THE HOUSE AFTER YOU GUYS? 488 00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:12,345 - I DON'T KNOW. 489 00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:14,247 - YES, YOU DO, SQUIRT. YOU JUST SAID. 490 00:20:14,281 --> 00:20:18,017 - HEY, TIM, MAYBE YOU SHOULD, UH... 491 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:20,253 MAYBE YOU SHOULD HELP US OUT HERE. 492 00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:22,922 - HELP YOU DETECTIVES? 493 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,657 - THAT'S RIGHT. YOU THINK YOU CAN? 494 00:20:24,691 --> 00:20:25,858 - SURE. 495 00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:33,032 SQUIRT, YOU SAID DARNELL HELPS AMY WITH HER SEATBELT. 496 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:37,737 THEN FREDDY OPENS THE DOOR, AND AMY GETS OUT AND LIFTS JANE OUT. 497 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:40,039 AND YOU ALL RUN INSIDE THE HOUSE AND HUG MOM. 498 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,942 EXCEPT ANGIE, WHO ALWAYS WAITS FOR DAD, RIGHT? 499 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:46,946 - OKAY, SO ON THE DAY THAT YOUR MOTHER GOT HURT, 500 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:48,281 WHAT HAPPENED? 501 00:20:48,315 --> 00:20:49,416 - I DON'T KNOW. 502 00:20:49,449 --> 00:20:51,351 - YOU DO, SQUIRT. YOU'RE SMART. 503 00:20:51,384 --> 00:20:52,719 - I AM SMART. 504 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,687 - SO TELL THE TWO DETECTIVES. 505 00:20:56,489 --> 00:20:59,025 - DARNELL STARTED TO UNBUCKLE AMY, 506 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:01,428 AND DAD SAID, "STOP." 507 00:21:01,461 --> 00:21:05,332 - SO WHAT YOU USUALLY DO, YOUR DAD SAID DON'T DO IT? 508 00:21:05,365 --> 00:21:07,400 - YES. HE SAID, "STOP." 509 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:10,537 HE MADE US WAIT. HE WENT IN FIRST. 510 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,541 - THAT'S CONFIRMATION. 511 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:15,942 - YEAH, WHAT THE LADY ASKED FOR. 512 00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:17,377 - ANYBODY HOME? 513 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:19,078 [Italian accent] HEY, THE PIZZA MAN IS HERE. 514 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:21,348 I GOT A PIZZA FOR EVERYONE. 515 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:24,083 NOW WHO WANTS A PIZZA? 516 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,786 AMY, REMEMBER, NO PEPPERONI FOR YOU. 517 00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:28,421 [kids giggling] 518 00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:30,423 HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE? 519 00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:35,528 I GOT SOME PIZZAS. 520 00:21:35,562 --> 00:21:37,764 - LARRY JOHNSON, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR MURDER. 521 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,667 - THAT'S A WRAP. 522 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:49,842 - CASE NUMBER 167249. PEOPLE VERSUS LARRY JOHNSON. 523 00:21:49,876 --> 00:21:51,344 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 524 00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:52,979 - THE PLEA IS NOT GUILTY, YOUR HONOR. 525 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:55,948 AND WE'RE REQUESTING R.O.R. FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS. 526 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,717 - HUMANITARIAN? 527 00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:00,420 YOUR CLIENT'S CHARGED WITH MURDER, NOT HEALING LEPERS. 528 00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:02,622 - HE HAS TEN SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN AT HOME 529 00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,991 WHO NEED HIS CARE SINCE HIS WIFE IS DECEASED. 530 00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:07,760 - SINCE HE SMASHED IN HER HEAD WITH A SPECIAL ATHLETICS TROPHY. 531 00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:09,496 PEOPLE REQUEST REMAND. 532 00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:10,830 - HE HAS TIES TO THE COMMUNITY, 533 00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:12,632 BOTH PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL. 534 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,367 AND HE CANNOT AFFORD HIGH BAIL. 535 00:22:14,401 --> 00:22:15,635 IF HE'S JAILED PENDING TRIAL, 536 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,770 THEN HE'S NOT THE ONE WHO'LL SUFFER. 537 00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:19,406 IT'S HIS CHILDREN. 538 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:22,375 - ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HOLD HIM FOR NOW ON $500,000. 539 00:22:22,409 --> 00:22:25,645 BUT I'LL REVIEW A PENDING REPORT FROM CHILDREN SERVICES. 540 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:27,780 - THANK YOU. 541 00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:30,016 - [Italian accent] HEY, THE PIZZA MAN IS HERE. 542 00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:31,951 I GOT A PIZZA FOR EVERYONE. 543 00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:34,454 - WE WERE JUST TRYING TO HAVE FUN. 544 00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:37,524 JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE AFTER MY WIFE'S TRAGIC DEATH. 545 00:22:37,557 --> 00:22:40,493 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. 546 00:22:40,527 --> 00:22:42,929 HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE? 547 00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:46,633 I GOT SOME PIZZAS. 548 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:48,768 - LARRY JOHNSON, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR MURDER. 549 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:50,637 - THAT'S A WRAP. 550 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:53,473 - I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NOW. 551 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:55,742 THE KIDS CRY ALL THE TIME. 552 00:22:55,775 --> 00:22:57,910 THEY'RE ACTING OUT. 553 00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:00,647 THEY NEED THEIR FATHER BACK. 554 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,683 - WE MISS YOU, DADDY. - AW. 555 00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:06,619 - VERY ENTERTAINING. 556 00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:08,588 WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE COSBYS? 557 00:23:08,621 --> 00:23:09,756 - THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS. 558 00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:12,024 - MM, CHILDREN'S SERVICES JUST WEIGHED IN. 559 00:23:12,058 --> 00:23:15,061 IF MR. JOHNSON MAKES BAIL, THE FAMILY STAYS TOGETHER, 560 00:23:15,094 --> 00:23:16,563 PENDING A VERDICT. 561 00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:18,631 AND IF HE DOESN'T, THE KIDS GET SPLIT UP. 562 00:23:18,665 --> 00:23:20,700 SENT TO FOSTER HOMES. IT'LL BE UGLY. 563 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:22,168 - AND OUR FAULT. 564 00:23:22,201 --> 00:23:24,737 HEARTLESS PROSECUTORS BREAK UP HAPPY FAMILY. 565 00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:26,739 - IT'LL POISON THE JURY POOL. 566 00:23:26,773 --> 00:23:28,808 - LOWER THE BAIL TO $100,000. 567 00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:30,042 BUT MAKE ONE CONDITION-- 568 00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:33,112 THAT HE STOP APPEARING ON THAT DAMN SHOW. 569 00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:36,949 - MISS RUBIROSA. 570 00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:38,785 CONNIE, RIGHT? 571 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:40,620 SWARTHMORE. 572 00:23:40,653 --> 00:23:42,789 YOU LIVED WITH SUSIE NEVINS SENIOR YEAR. 573 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:44,457 I DATED KAREN LAZAR. 574 00:23:44,491 --> 00:23:46,092 DROVE A YELLOW GEO METRO. 575 00:23:46,125 --> 00:23:48,695 - AND SOLD RIDES TO NEW YORK. 576 00:23:48,728 --> 00:23:49,762 ARTIE. UM... 577 00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:50,797 - KRAMER. 578 00:23:51,998 --> 00:23:53,966 - THE REALITY SHOW PRODUCER. 579 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,768 - GUILTY. 580 00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:58,705 HEY, I CAN GUESS WHAT YOU PROBABLY 581 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:00,707 THINK ABOUT A SHOW LIKE LARRY PLUS TEN. 582 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:02,675 BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN 583 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:05,678 ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE BEING ADOPTED AFTER ONE EPISODE? 584 00:24:05,712 --> 00:24:08,047 - WELL, HOPEFULLY BY BETTER PARENTS THAN MR. JOHNSON. 585 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,682 - THE SHOW'S DEAD, CONNIE, 586 00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:10,883 BECAUSE OF YOUR BAIL CONDITION. 587 00:24:10,917 --> 00:24:12,184 WE NEED LARRY ON CAMERA. 588 00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:13,152 - IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 589 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:14,787 - OKAY. 590 00:24:14,821 --> 00:24:15,688 WELL, WHAT ABOUT YOU? 591 00:24:15,722 --> 00:24:17,724 - WHAT ABOUT ME? 592 00:24:17,757 --> 00:24:18,925 - WELL, THE SISTER'S A STIFF. 593 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:20,760 BUT WE STILL GOT THE KIDS. 594 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,929 WE CAN KEEP IT ALIVE BY FOCUSING ON THE TRIAL. 595 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:26,065 AND CONTRASTING THAT WITH HER STRUGGLES INSIDE THE HOUSE. 596 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:28,935 - CAMERAS AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM. 597 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:30,269 - SO OUTSIDE THE COURT. 598 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:33,105 D.A. DOING PREP, D.A. BRIEFING US ON DEVELOPMENTS. 599 00:24:33,139 --> 00:24:34,941 - THE D.A. TELLING YOU YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND. 600 00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:37,544 - IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE YOUR CASE TO THE PUBLIC. 601 00:24:37,577 --> 00:24:39,979 PLUS, I HAVE TAPES OF LARRY JOHNSON AND HIS WIFE 602 00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:41,113 WHEN THEY WERE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE SHOW 603 00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,149 TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO DO IT 604 00:24:43,182 --> 00:24:44,717 AND NOT ALWAYS AGREEING. 605 00:24:44,751 --> 00:24:46,519 - I CAN SUBPOENA THOSE TAPES. 606 00:24:46,553 --> 00:24:48,254 - WE'LL FIGHT IT. FIRST AMENDMENT. 607 00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:50,823 OR YOU COULD GET THEM HAND-DELIVERED. 608 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,795 - THE TAPES COULD HELP. 609 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,730 - SO WE'LL FIGHT IN COURT TO GET THEM. 610 00:24:57,764 --> 00:24:59,699 - WELL, HOW DO WE MAKE A SHOWING THEY'RE RELEVANT 611 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:00,867 IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM? 612 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:02,869 - WITHOUT OUR POINT OF VIEW ON THE SHOW, 613 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,571 IT'S ALL PROPAGANDA FOR ACQUITTAL. 614 00:25:04,604 --> 00:25:06,072 - WE'LL PICK JURORS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT. 615 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:07,206 - OR WE CAN EMBRACE IT, 616 00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:09,976 ARGUE OUR CASE, AND GET THE TAPES. 617 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,644 WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? - FINE. 618 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,646 WHY DON'T YOU BE ON THE SHOW? 619 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,682 - WELL, HE DIDN'T ASK ME. 620 00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:25,825 - HOLD IT. 621 00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:27,594 SORRY, I GOT A WHITE BALANCE GLITCH. 622 00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:30,196 LISTEN, CAN YOU ARRIVE AGAIN? 623 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:31,998 - ARRIVE AGAIN? 624 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:33,900 - DRIVE AROUND THE BLOCK. 625 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:35,668 - LOOK, I'M A LITTLE LATE. 626 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:36,869 WHY DON'T I JUST GET IN AND GET OUT AGAIN? 627 00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:38,638 - OKAY, WE CAN CHEAT IT. 628 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:49,816 - [disgruntled sigh] 629 00:25:49,849 --> 00:25:50,917 THANK YOU. 630 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:52,084 - OKAY, STOP THERE. 631 00:25:52,118 --> 00:25:54,086 NOW CAN YOU TELL WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO 632 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,588 BE DOING IN THERE TODAY? 633 00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:57,256 - TELL WHO? 634 00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:58,725 - THE CAMERA. 635 00:25:58,758 --> 00:26:01,260 LIKE, IT'S AS IF YOU'RE TALKING TO A FRIEND. 636 00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:03,763 [phone ringing] [frustrated sigh] 637 00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:06,232 - WHAT? - YOU HAVING FUN? 638 00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:08,801 - I AM GOING TO KILL YOU. AND THEN I'M GONNA KILL MCCOY. 639 00:26:08,835 --> 00:26:11,070 - ON CAMERA? - I DON'T CARE. 640 00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:12,805 I'D BE BETTER OFF IN PRISON. 641 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:13,773 WHERE ARE YOU? 642 00:26:13,806 --> 00:26:16,609 - UH, I'M IN THE COURTHOUSE. YOU ALMOST HERE? 643 00:26:16,643 --> 00:26:17,710 - YES, UH-HUH, EXCEPT FIRST 644 00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:20,312 I HAVE TO TELL MY FRIEND THE CAMERA WHAT'S GOING ON. 645 00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:21,681 - WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY? 646 00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:22,849 - [sighs] DON'T WORRY. 647 00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:24,784 JUST THE PARTY LINE. 648 00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:26,318 [sighs] 649 00:26:28,821 --> 00:26:30,089 [clears throat] 650 00:26:33,059 --> 00:26:35,728 TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO PROVE OUR CASE. 651 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:38,064 LARRY JOHNSON MAY LOOK ADMIRABLE 652 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,366 BECAUSE HE HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH NEEDY CHILDREN. 653 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,168 BUT THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW... 654 00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:45,672 - THAT LARRY JOHNSON, HIS BUSINESS FAILING, 655 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:48,708 DESPERATELY WANTED TO APPEAR ON A REALITY SHOW. 656 00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:50,643 HE NEEDED THE MONEY 657 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:52,812 AND CARED NOTHING ABOUT EXPOSING HIS CHILDREN 658 00:26:52,845 --> 00:26:57,116 TO PUBLIC SCRUTINY AND HUMILIATION. 659 00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:59,318 WHEN HIS WIFE REFUSED TO GO ALONG, 660 00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:02,254 HE ARGUED WITH HER... 661 00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:03,990 AND THEN HE KILLED HER. 662 00:27:04,023 --> 00:27:06,058 THE ONLY PERSON IN THAT FAMILY 663 00:27:06,092 --> 00:27:09,996 THAT LARRY JOHNSON REALLY CARED ABOUT... 664 00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:12,699 WAS LARRY JOHNSON. 665 00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:22,742 - NO ONE SAW MR. JOHNSON KILL HIS WIFE. 666 00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:25,211 NO ONE EVEN SAW THEM ARGUE. 667 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:28,180 WHAT PEOPLE DID SEE, AS THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW, 668 00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:31,117 IS ANOTHER WOMAN WHO DESPERATELY WANTED TO BE ON THAT SHOW 669 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:34,787 LEAVING THE JOHNSON HOUSE AT THE TIME OF THE MURDER. 670 00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:37,757 AND THAT A YOUNG MAN WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD 671 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:40,693 STOLE A KEY TO THE JOHNSON HOUSE. 672 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:43,162 AND THAT ONE OF THE JOHNSONS' ADOPTED CHILDREN, 673 00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:45,431 A TROUBLED YOUNG MAN OF 16, 674 00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:48,334 ACTUALLY CONFESSED TO KILLING HIS MOTHER. 675 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:51,738 WHO KILLED JOY JOHNSON? 676 00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:55,708 I DON'T KNOW. 677 00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,844 AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 678 00:27:57,877 --> 00:27:59,979 NEITHER DO THE AUTHORITIES. 679 00:28:05,852 --> 00:28:07,353 - THERE'S NO REAL EVIDENCE AGAINST THOSE OTHERS. 680 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:09,989 THE DEFENSE IS JUST THROWING SPAGHETTI AGAINST THE CEILING 681 00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:11,758 HOPING SOMETHING STICKS. 682 00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:13,292 - EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD BE DOING. 683 00:28:13,325 --> 00:28:15,061 AND SOME OF IT SOUNDS PRETTY STICKY. 684 00:28:15,094 --> 00:28:16,763 - THE JURY'S NOT GONNA LIKE JOHNSON. 685 00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:19,131 LESS THAN A DAY AFTER HIS WIFE IS MURDERED, 686 00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:21,300 HE GOES ON A REALITY SHOW 687 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,269 TO EXPLOIT HIS DISABLED CHILDREN. 688 00:28:23,302 --> 00:28:25,037 - HERE'S THE VIDEO WE GOT IN EXCHANGE 689 00:28:25,071 --> 00:28:27,139 FOR PEDDLING MY ASS ON TV. 690 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:34,881 - WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 691 00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:36,849 WE CAN'T WAIT TO SHARE OUR FAMILY 692 00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:38,751 WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN. 693 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:40,887 - WE STILL JUST NEED TO DISCUSS IT 694 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,755 A LITTLE MORE AMONG OURSELVES. 695 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:45,424 - DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU? 696 00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:48,394 - MY HUSBAND AND I SHOULD PROBABLY TALK PRIVATELY. 697 00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:50,162 - HONEY, YOU MAY AS WELL GET USED TO IT. 698 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:51,898 THE CAMERA'S GONNA BE ON ALL THE TIME. 699 00:28:51,931 --> 00:28:55,167 - THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, LARRY. 700 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:58,170 YOU KNOW THE KIDS GET TEASED ENOUGH ALREADY. 701 00:28:58,204 --> 00:29:00,439 I MEAN, SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE THE JUDGMENT 702 00:29:00,472 --> 00:29:02,241 TO CONTROL WHAT THEY SAY. 703 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:06,846 WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 704 00:29:06,879 --> 00:29:09,816 DOES THAT HAVE TO BE ON? 705 00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:12,885 - THE SEED OF THE ARGUMENT THAT LED TO THE MURDER. 706 00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:15,387 - I DON'T HEAR HER SAYING SHE WON'T DO THE SHOW. 707 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:17,256 - WE HAVE A WITNESS WHO SHE SAID IT TO. 708 00:29:22,028 --> 00:29:23,429 - MRS. JOHNSON WAS VERY GRACIOUS. 709 00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:26,165 SHE OFFERED TO MAKE ME A TEA, BUT I COULDN'T STAY. 710 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:30,202 I HAD TEN KIDS WAITING WITH MY MOM AT A MCDONALDS. 711 00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:32,805 - BEFORE SHE OFFERED TO MAKE YOU TEA, 712 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,141 WHAT DID SHE SAY ABOUT THE REALITY SHOW? 713 00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:36,408 - THAT I COULD HAVE IT. 714 00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:37,977 SHE THOUGHT IT WAS DELETERIOUS. 715 00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:40,512 - DELETERIOUS? 716 00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:41,981 - [chuckles] I HAD TO LOOK IT UP, TOO. 717 00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:43,582 LIKE IT WOULD DAMAGE THE KIDS. 718 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,852 SHE DIDN'T LIKE IT. THEY WEREN'T GONNA DO IT. 719 00:29:45,885 --> 00:29:47,186 - THANK YOU. 720 00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:53,092 - ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT MRS. JOHNSON TOLD YOU THAT 721 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,526 JUST TO GET YOU OUT OF HER HOUSE? 722 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,528 - WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT? 723 00:29:56,562 --> 00:29:59,365 - BECAUSE YOU'D ARGUED WITH HER ON THE PHONE, MADE THREATS. 724 00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:00,566 - I NEVER MADE THREATS. 725 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,335 - YOU THOUGHT YOU DESERVED TO BE ON THAT SHOW, DIDN'T YOU? 726 00:30:03,369 --> 00:30:04,436 - I DID. 727 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,873 THE JOHNSONS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THOSE KIDS THEMSELVES. 728 00:30:06,906 --> 00:30:08,107 I HAD MINE THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. 729 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,843 - WITH FERTILITY DRUGS AND A STRANGER'S SPERM. 730 00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:13,579 HOW BADLY DID YOU WANT TO BE ON THAT SHOW? 731 00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:15,614 - A LOT, BUT I'M NOT A VIOLENT PERSON. 732 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,884 - DIDN'T YOU TELL THE SHOW'S PRODUCER 733 00:30:17,917 --> 00:30:20,186 THAT YOU WOULD KILL SOMEONE TO BE ON THAT SHOW? 734 00:30:20,219 --> 00:30:22,288 - NO. ME? NEVER. 735 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,556 - YOUR HONOR, I'D LIKE TO PLAY AN AUDITION TAPE 736 00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:26,592 MS. ALVAREZ MADE WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR THE SHOW. 737 00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:29,628 - OBJECTION, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT DVD IS, 738 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:32,131 OR WHO MADE IT, OR WHERE IT CAME FROM. 739 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:34,533 - MS. ALVAREZ CAN AUTHENTICATE IT FOR US, SHE WAS THERE. 740 00:30:34,566 --> 00:30:36,568 - VERY WELL, SUBJECT TO AUTHENTICATION. 741 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,644 - I KNOW MAYBE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, 742 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,646 BUT THERE'S NOBODY AS GOOD AS ME FOR THIS. 743 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,648 MY SEPTUPLETS ARE VERY HILARIOUS, 744 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,284 AND I'M ALREADY GETTING THEM USED TO BEING ON CAMERA. 745 00:30:52,318 --> 00:30:54,120 - IS THAT YOU, MS. ALVAREZ? 746 00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:55,888 - YES, IT'S ME. 747 00:30:55,922 --> 00:30:57,289 - MM. 748 00:30:57,323 --> 00:30:59,591 - IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE PARENT, BELINDA. 749 00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:01,227 WE NEED SOMEONE WHO'S PASSIONATE. 750 00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:02,328 - PASSIONATE? 751 00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:04,596 YOU THINK I MAY BE ONE OF THOSE WISE LATINO WOMEN? 752 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:07,199 NOT ME. - YOU ARE NOT WISE? 753 00:31:07,233 --> 00:31:08,000 - NOT BORING. 754 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:10,169 I GOT THE FIRE, YOU HAVE NO IDEA. 755 00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:13,572 I SWEAR, TO GET ON THIS SHOW, I WOULD KILL. 756 00:31:19,045 --> 00:31:21,680 - THANK YOU, MS. ALVAREZ. YOU MAY STEP DOWN. 757 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:25,517 - I GUESS YOUR FRIEND KRAMER MADE A DEAL WITH THEM TOO. 758 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,194 - WHEN MS. ALVAREZ TOLD YOU 759 00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:37,296 THAT SHE WOULD KILL TO BE ON YOUR SHOW, 760 00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:38,931 DID YOU TAKE HER LITERALLY? 761 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:40,199 - OF COURSE NOT. 762 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,001 NO, I THINK SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO IMPRESS ME. 763 00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:44,103 - BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU LOOK FOR, ISN'T IT? 764 00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:46,672 EXAGGERATED, FAKE EMOTIONS. 765 00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:48,707 - WELL, THEY'RE CALLED REALITY SHOWS. 766 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,209 - THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, 767 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:51,577 BUT THEY'RE SCRIPTED, AREN'T THEY? 768 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:56,215 BASED AROUND MANUFACTURED, EMOTIONAL SITUATIONS. 769 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:59,151 - WE TAKE WHAT'S THERE, AND WE AMPLIFY IT. 770 00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:00,152 - AMPLIFY. 771 00:32:00,186 --> 00:32:04,156 FOR EXAMPLE, A SIMPLE DESIRE TO BE ON THE SHOW 772 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:05,624 INTO A BOGUS WILLINGNESS TO KILL. 773 00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:06,892 THAT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU WANT. 774 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:11,230 MS. ALVAREZ WAS SHOWING YOU THAT SHE KNEW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. 775 00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:13,399 - SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 776 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:15,667 - NOW DID MRS. JOHNSON EVER EXPRESS 777 00:32:15,701 --> 00:32:17,736 THAT KIND OF EAGERNESS TO BE ON THE SHOW? 778 00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,405 - NO. 779 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:23,042 - DID SHE EVER EVEN TELL YOU SHE WANTED TO BE ON THE SHOW? 780 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:24,476 - NOT DIRECTLY. 781 00:32:24,510 --> 00:32:26,278 I ONLY HEARD THROUGH HER HUSBAND. 782 00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:28,247 - HER HUSBAND. 783 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,284 HOW LONG BEFORE HER DEATH DID YOU SEND HIM THE CONTRACT 784 00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:33,452 THAT NEEDED TO BE SIGNED? 785 00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,287 - ABOUT A MONTH. 786 00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:37,589 - AND WHEN DID YOU TELL HIM YOU NEEDED IT BACK? 787 00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:39,125 - RIGHT AWAY. 788 00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:41,260 HE KEPT SAYING, "NO PROBLEM." IT KEPT NOT COMING. 789 00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:45,331 - AND WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE TO HIM 790 00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:47,066 BEFORE MRS. JOHNSON WAS MURDERED? 791 00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:51,303 - I SAID, "I NEED IT BACK, SIGNED, IN 24 HOURS, 792 00:32:51,337 --> 00:32:54,340 OR I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO THE SHOW WITH SOMEBODY ELSE." 793 00:32:54,373 --> 00:32:56,675 - THANK YOU, MR. KRAMER. 794 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,480 - SO... 795 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:04,450 NO ONE EVER GOT KILLED OVER A REALITY SHOW? 796 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:06,452 - I DON'T KNOW ABOUT "EVER." 797 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:08,054 - WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT 798 00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,256 THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF A DOZEN SUICIDES, 799 00:33:10,289 --> 00:33:14,026 OR SUICIDE ATTEMPTS, MADE BY REALITY SHOW CONTESTANTS? 800 00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:16,462 - WELL, PEOPLE CAN GET HIGHLY WROUGHT. 801 00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:19,365 AND SO WE TRY TO WEED OUT THE ONES THAT WE THINK ARE UNSTABLE. 802 00:33:19,398 --> 00:33:22,101 - IS THAT WHY YOU DIDN'T GO WITH BELINDA ALVAREZ? 803 00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:23,402 - IN PART. 804 00:33:23,435 --> 00:33:25,404 - 'CAUSE SHE'S A HIGH-STRUNG, ERRATIC WOMAN 805 00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:27,139 WHO AS FAR AS YOU KNOW GOT HERSELF PREGNANT 806 00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:28,640 WITH SEPTUPLETS SHE COULDN'T SUPPORT, 807 00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,442 JUST TO GET HERSELF ON A SHOW LIKE YOURS. 808 00:33:30,476 --> 00:33:32,544 - OBJECTION, THERE'S NO BASIS FOR ANY OF THAT. 809 00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:34,213 - WE'VE SEEN THE WOMAN. 810 00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:36,282 - SUSTAINED. MOVE ON, MS. NEVILLE. 811 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:42,521 - AS FOR THE DELAY IN GETTING THE CONTRACT BACK, 812 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,490 DID YOU KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE MRS. JOHNSON 813 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:46,192 WAS RELUCTANT TO SIGN IT? 814 00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:47,326 - NO. 815 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,461 - ISN'T IT JUST AS LIKELY IT WAS BECAUSE MR. JOHNSON 816 00:33:49,495 --> 00:33:51,230 WAS NEGOTIATING FOR A HIGHER PAYMENT? 817 00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:52,364 - I DON'T KNOW. 818 00:33:52,398 --> 00:33:53,665 I TOLD THEM I COULDN'T GO ANY HIGHER. 819 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,467 - BUT HE WAS TRYING, WASN'T HE? 820 00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,802 - HE ASKED. 821 00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,637 HE EVEN HAD HIS ACCOUNTANT CALL ME. 822 00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:00,172 HE SAID HE WAS DOING SOME TAX PLANNING 823 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:02,074 AND WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 824 00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:03,809 MR. JOHNSON COULD EXPECT TO EARN FROM THE SHOW. 825 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,312 - THANK YOU. 826 00:34:06,345 --> 00:34:08,847 - HEY. 827 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,816 THE POLICE TALKED TO JOHNSON'S ACCOUNTANT. 828 00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:13,652 SHE'S A WOMAN. 829 00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,522 - THEN WHO CALLED KRAMER? 830 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:18,790 - I NEVER EXPECTED IT, BUT I'VE BEEN DRAWN INTO 831 00:34:18,824 --> 00:34:20,659 THIS BIZARRE MURDER TRIAL 832 00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:23,829 INVOLVING TWO OF OUR VERY SPECIAL FAMILIES. 833 00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:25,597 MS. RUBIROSA. 834 00:34:25,631 --> 00:34:27,233 HOW'D I DO? 835 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:29,201 - YOU--YOU WERE FANTASTIC. 836 00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:32,138 CAN I HAVE A WORD WITH THE CAMERAS OFF? 837 00:34:32,171 --> 00:34:33,105 - ONLY IF YOU PROMISE 838 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,840 TO GIVE US YOUR FULL IMPRESSIONS AFTERWARDS. 839 00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,276 WE'RE AIRING A VERY SPECIAL EDITION SUNDAY NIGHT. 840 00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,544 - ARTIE, I THINK THE LINES 841 00:34:38,577 --> 00:34:41,313 ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT BLURRED HERE. 842 00:34:41,347 --> 00:34:43,081 CAN I TALK TO YOU? PLEASE? 843 00:34:46,352 --> 00:34:47,619 KRAMER HAD A CALLBACK NUMBER 844 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,555 FOR JOHNSON'S SO-CALLED ACCOUNTANT. 845 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,591 IT'S A FINANCE COMPANY THAT'S A FRONT FOR SAMMY SHINER. 846 00:34:52,624 --> 00:34:54,193 - THE LOAN SHARK? 847 00:34:54,226 --> 00:34:55,761 IF SAMMY SHINER WANTED TO KNOW 848 00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:58,230 HOW MUCH MONEY JOHNSON HAD COMING, 849 00:34:58,264 --> 00:35:00,266 IT WAS BECAUSE JOHNSON OWED HIM. 850 00:35:00,299 --> 00:35:02,568 - AND SHINER IS NOT SOMEONE YOU WANNA KEEP WAITING. 851 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:05,604 OCID HAS HIM LISTED AS A SUSPECT IN AT LEAST FOUR MURDERS. 852 00:35:05,637 --> 00:35:07,339 - JOHNSON'S BUSINESS IS FAILING, 853 00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:09,808 HE BORROWS FROM SHINER, HE CAN'T PAY IT BACK, 854 00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:13,612 HE REALLY, REALLY NEEDS THAT REALITY SHOW GIG. 855 00:35:13,645 --> 00:35:15,181 - THAT AMPS HIS MOTIVE TWENTY FOLD. 856 00:35:15,214 --> 00:35:17,183 IF WE CAN GET SHINER TO TESTIFY. 857 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:18,650 - WE GET A MATERIAL WITNESS WARRANT, 858 00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:21,287 GIVE HIM TRANSACTIONAL IMMUNITY--IT'S DOABLE. 859 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,488 - I'LL START THE APPLICATION. 860 00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:23,655 - NO. NO, NOT YET. 861 00:35:23,689 --> 00:35:25,557 HE'LL TIP THEM OFF. 862 00:35:25,591 --> 00:35:27,859 JOHNSON'S TAKING THE STAND ON MONDAY, RIGHT? 863 00:35:27,893 --> 00:35:29,728 - HE'S GONNA HAVE THE JURY IN TEARS-- 864 00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:31,930 HIS GRIEF FOR HIS WIFE, HIS BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN. 865 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,766 - LET HIM, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS GET HIM TO SAY SOMETHING-- 866 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,668 ANYTHING ABOUT NOT NEEDING MONEY. 867 00:35:36,702 --> 00:35:39,205 THEN WE BRING SHINER IN FOR REBUTTAL. 868 00:35:39,238 --> 00:35:41,173 THE JURY WILL SEE JOHNSON'S A LIAR 869 00:35:41,207 --> 00:35:42,841 WHO'S PLAYED THEM FOR FOOLS. 870 00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:49,948 - MY WIFE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CHILDREN'S WELL-BEING. 871 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,384 OF COURSE. WE BOTH WERE. 872 00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:54,720 SO WE GOT ASSURANCES FROM THE PRODUCERS 873 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:56,688 THAT WE COULD REVIEW THE TAPES, 874 00:35:56,722 --> 00:35:58,457 THAT WE COULD PROTECT THEM. 875 00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,492 I WAS SATISFIED. 876 00:36:00,526 --> 00:36:02,428 AND SO WAS SHE. 877 00:36:02,461 --> 00:36:04,830 - THEN WHY DID SHE TELL MS. ALVAREZ OTHERWISE? 878 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:08,334 - I DON'T BELIEVE SHE DID. 879 00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:10,302 - WE'VE HEARD TESTIMONY THAT ON THE DAY OF THE MURDER 880 00:36:10,336 --> 00:36:12,271 WHEN YOU RETURNED HOME WITH YOUR CHILDREN, 881 00:36:12,304 --> 00:36:13,772 YOU ALTERED YOUR USUAL ROUTINE. 882 00:36:13,805 --> 00:36:17,243 - MY WIFE HAD BEEN TIRED THAT MORNING. 883 00:36:17,276 --> 00:36:20,746 I THOUGHT SHE MIGHT BE NAPPING, SO I HELD THE KIDS BACK. 884 00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:24,283 IT WASN'T THAT UNUSUAL. 885 00:36:24,316 --> 00:36:27,253 - SO YOU DIDN'T KILL YOUR WIFE, MR. JOHNSON? 886 00:36:27,286 --> 00:36:28,487 - OF COURSE NOT. 887 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,757 I THANKED GOD EVERY DAY THAT HE HAD BROUGHT HER INTO MY LIFE. 888 00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:33,959 AND INTO OUR CHILDREN'S. 889 00:36:33,992 --> 00:36:36,262 SHE LITERALLY SAVED THEIR LIVES. 890 00:36:36,295 --> 00:36:38,196 THEY LOVED HER FOR THAT. 891 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:42,000 AND SO DID I. 892 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,935 - THANK YOU. 893 00:36:47,473 --> 00:36:49,441 - IF YOU LOVED YOUR WIFE, WHAT EMOTION EXACTLY 894 00:36:49,475 --> 00:36:51,977 DID YOU FEEL FOR YOUR BABYSITTER? 895 00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:55,714 - I'M--I'M NOT PERFECT. 896 00:36:55,747 --> 00:36:59,485 I NEVER SAID I WAS. 897 00:36:59,518 --> 00:37:01,620 I MAY HAVE STRAYED, BUT... 898 00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:04,390 THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME A MURDERER. 899 00:37:04,423 --> 00:37:06,792 - ON THE DAY YOUR WIFE WAS KILLED, 900 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,295 YOU LEFT YOUR OFFICE AT 12:15, 901 00:37:09,328 --> 00:37:11,830 BUT YOU DIDN'T ARRIVE AT YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S APARTMENT 902 00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:12,964 UNTIL 1:00. 903 00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:15,701 - I STOPPED FOR COFFEE. 904 00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:17,736 I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT I WAS DOING. 905 00:37:17,769 --> 00:37:19,505 - YOU WERE THINKING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GO 906 00:37:19,538 --> 00:37:21,273 TO SEE YOUR GIRLFRIEND. 907 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:25,311 AND THEN YOU... WENT TO SEE YOUR GIRLFRIEND. 908 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:28,680 - YEAH. 909 00:37:28,714 --> 00:37:31,350 - YOU DIDN'T STOP IN FIRST TO SEE YOUR WIFE? 910 00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:32,851 - NO. - TO TRY TO CONVINCE HER 911 00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,820 ONE MORE TIME TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT? 912 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:36,988 - NO. 913 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:39,325 - BECAUSE BUSINESS WAS TERRIBLE AND YOU NEEDED MONEY. 914 00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:41,360 - I DIDN'T NEED MONEY THAT BADLY. 915 00:37:41,393 --> 00:37:43,495 TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD HURT MY CHILDREN? 916 00:37:43,529 --> 00:37:46,465 TO KILL MY WIFE? 917 00:37:46,498 --> 00:37:48,367 - IT WAS A DESPERATE SITUATION. 918 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,303 YOUR PROJECTS WERE FAILING, YOU WERE DEEP IN DEBT. 919 00:37:51,337 --> 00:37:52,971 - I COULD DO OTHER PROJECTS. 920 00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:54,773 I COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE. 921 00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:56,842 I MIGHT HAVE OWED A LITTLE MONEY. 922 00:37:56,875 --> 00:38:00,346 BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS A MATTER OF LIFE OR DEATH. 923 00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:04,082 - THANK YOU. 924 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,685 GET THAT MATERIAL WITNESS WARRANT. 925 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,988 - IT'S NOT WHAT I EVER EXPECTED, 926 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:12,991 BUT I'VE BEEN DRAWN INTO THIS BIZARRE MURDER TRIAL 927 00:38:13,024 --> 00:38:16,328 INVOLVING TWO OF OUR VERY SPECIAL FAMILIES. 928 00:38:16,362 --> 00:38:18,464 MS. RUBIROSA, HOW'D I DO? 929 00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:20,432 - YOU--YOU WERE FANTASTIC. 930 00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:22,701 CAN I HAVE A WORD WITH THE CAMERAS OFF? 931 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:24,803 - WELL, ONLY IF YOU PROMISE TO GIVE US 932 00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:26,472 YOUR FULL IMPRESSIONS AFTERWARDS. 933 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,039 WE'RE AIRING A SPECIAL EDITION SUNDAY NIGHT. 934 00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:29,875 - ARTIE, I THINK THE LINES ARE GETTING 935 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:31,777 A LITTLE BIT BLURRED HERE. 936 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,044 CAN I TALK TO YOU, PLEASE? 937 00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:34,813 - HOW MUCH LONGER MUST THIS GO ON? 938 00:38:34,846 --> 00:38:35,947 - NOT MUCH. 939 00:38:35,981 --> 00:38:38,850 JOHNSON STEPPED RIGHT INTO IT ON THE WITNESS STAND. 940 00:38:38,884 --> 00:38:41,720 THE LOAN SHARK, SHINER, WILL DEMOLISH HIM. 941 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:43,054 - HE'LL TESTIFY? 942 00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:44,289 - HE'S GONE. 943 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,658 THE COPS JUST CALLED, SHINER SEEMS TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. 944 00:38:46,692 --> 00:38:48,594 SOMEWHERE IN THE CARIBBEAN. 945 00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:50,496 HIS ASSOCIATES DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS OR WHEN HE'LL BE BACK. 946 00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:51,930 - WHEN DID HE LEAVE? 947 00:38:51,963 --> 00:38:52,964 - THIS MORNING. 948 00:38:52,998 --> 00:38:54,533 - THEY KNEW. 949 00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:57,436 THE DEFENSE SOMEHOW KNEW YOU KNEW ABOUT SHINER 950 00:38:57,469 --> 00:38:59,070 AND TIPPED HIM OFF TO GET THE HELL OUT OF TOWN. 951 00:38:59,104 --> 00:39:01,039 - HOW? HOW DID THEY KNOW? 952 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:03,108 - OH, GOD. - WHAT? 953 00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:05,076 - THIS AIRED LAST NIGHT. 954 00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:07,579 THAT'S MY PAD, I CARRIED IT OUT OF THE COURTROOM, 955 00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:10,716 I WAS TAKING NOTES WHILE KRAMER TESTIFIED. 956 00:39:10,749 --> 00:39:13,752 [typing] 957 00:39:13,785 --> 00:39:15,721 [deflated sigh] 958 00:39:15,754 --> 00:39:17,989 - THE DEFENSE DID WHAT YOU JUST DID. 959 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:20,826 - NOW THAT'S REALITY TELEVISION. 960 00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,494 - YEAH. 961 00:39:26,197 --> 00:39:29,468 - AS OUR PLANNED REBUTTAL WITNESS IS UNAVAILABLE, 962 00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:32,504 I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. 963 00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:36,107 MR. JOHNSON, WHEN DID YOU FIRST BECOME ACQUAINTED 964 00:39:36,141 --> 00:39:37,876 WITH SAMMY SHINER? 965 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,011 - I'M SORRY, WHO? 966 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:43,048 - HE'S A PRINCIPAL AT UPTOWN FINANCE. 967 00:39:43,081 --> 00:39:47,786 A COMPANY YOU OWED $400,000. 968 00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:50,889 - I DON'T THINK I MET ANYONE THERE NAMED SHINER. 969 00:39:50,922 --> 00:39:54,192 - BUT YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE PHONE CALL TO MR. KRAMER 970 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,828 THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY FROM YOUR ACCOUNTANT 971 00:39:56,862 --> 00:39:58,497 ASKING ABOUT YOUR EARNINGS, 972 00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:01,900 WAS ACTUALLY MADE BY SOMEONE AT UPTOWN FINANCE? 973 00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:04,803 - I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. 974 00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:07,205 - YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU'D BORROWED MONEY 975 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,140 FROM A NOTORIOUS LOAN SHARK 976 00:40:09,174 --> 00:40:12,778 WHO WAS NOW TAKING A CLOSE, PERSONAL INTEREST 977 00:40:12,811 --> 00:40:14,112 IN YOUR FINANCES? 978 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,781 - NO. 979 00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:19,117 UPTOWN FINANCE CAME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. 980 00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:22,187 IT WAS A NORMAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION. 981 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:25,724 - A NORMAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION WITH A MAN 982 00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:29,695 WHO'S NON-PAYING CUSTOMERS HAVE A HABIT OF WINDING UP DEAD. 983 00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:33,031 YOU HAD TO GET YOUR WIFE TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT, 984 00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:35,066 OR YOU RISKED BEING MURDERED-- - OBJECTION! 985 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,568 YOUR HONOR, IF THE PROSECUTION WANTS 986 00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:38,169 TO PUT SOMEONE NAMED SAMMY SHINER 987 00:40:38,203 --> 00:40:39,270 ON TRIAL FOR LOAN SHARKING, 988 00:40:39,304 --> 00:40:41,840 I SUGGEST THEY LAUNCH THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION. 989 00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:44,109 OR AT LEAST BRING HIM IN TO TESTIFY. 990 00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:47,045 - I AGREE. MR. CUTTER, THAT'S ENOUGH. 991 00:40:47,078 --> 00:40:48,514 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? 992 00:40:50,516 --> 00:40:52,150 - NO, YOUR HONOR. 993 00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:15,574 - HAS THE JURY REACHED A VERDICT? 994 00:41:15,607 --> 00:41:17,809 - STILL NO PROGRESS, YOUR HONOR. 995 00:41:17,843 --> 00:41:19,878 - I'LL SEND YOU BACK ONE MORE TIME 996 00:41:19,911 --> 00:41:21,146 IF YOU THINK THERE'S ANY CHANCE 997 00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:23,915 OF REACHING A UNANIMOUS VERDICT. 998 00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:25,116 - I DON'T THINK SO. 999 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:27,719 PEOPLE AREN'T BUDGING. WE'RE DEADLOCKED. 1000 00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:29,020 - VERY WELL. 1001 00:41:29,054 --> 00:41:31,623 I HAVE NO CHOICE THEN, BUT TO DECLARE A MISTRIAL. 1002 00:41:31,657 --> 00:41:34,025 I THANK THE JURORS FOR THEIR SERVICE. 1003 00:41:34,059 --> 00:41:36,127 THE TERMS OF MR. JOHNSON'S BAIL ARE CONTINUED 1004 00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:39,030 WHILE THE STATE DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT 1005 00:41:39,064 --> 00:41:40,065 TO RETRY THIS CASE. 1006 00:41:40,098 --> 00:41:42,167 WE'RE ADJOURNED. [gavel drops] 1007 00:41:46,772 --> 00:41:50,041 - WE'RE SEARCHING THE CARIBBEAN TO REBUT JOHNSON'S PERJURY. 1008 00:41:50,075 --> 00:41:53,945 LAST WE HEARD, SHINER WAS EITHER IN ANGUILLA OR ANTIGUA. 1009 00:41:53,979 --> 00:41:55,714 - MEANWHILE, THE PRODUCERS HAVE 1010 00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:58,149 MADE SOME CHANGES TO LARRY PLUS TEN. 1011 00:41:58,183 --> 00:42:00,218 - YEAH, THEY'RE MOVING HIS FAMILY WITH THE SEPTOMOM'S 1012 00:42:00,251 --> 00:42:01,987 INTO THE SAME MANSION ON LONG ISLAND. 1013 00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:03,722 ALONG WITH A HUMAN LIE DETECTOR. 1014 00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:05,190 YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO CAN TELL IF YOU'RE LYING 1015 00:42:05,223 --> 00:42:06,792 BY THE WAY YOU BLINK. 1016 00:42:06,825 --> 00:42:09,194 - THE IDEA IS TO HAVE BOTH FAMILIES COMPETE FOR PRIZES 1017 00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:12,964 AND TO FIGURE OUT WHICH HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD MURDERED JOY JOHNSON. 1018 00:42:12,998 --> 00:42:15,233 THE TELEVISION AUDIENCE GETS TO VOTE, 1019 00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:19,971 AND THEY'VE ASKED ARTHUR BRANCH TO BE THE JUDGE. 1020 00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:26,111 - YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?