1 00:00:05,673 --> 00:00:07,408 (male announcer) IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, 2 00:00:07,441 --> 00:00:09,743 THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE 3 00:00:09,777 --> 00:00:11,512 YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS-- 4 00:00:11,545 --> 00:00:13,581 THE POLICE WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME 5 00:00:13,614 --> 00:00:16,384 AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS. 6 00:00:16,417 --> 00:00:18,152 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 7 00:00:23,457 --> 00:00:25,826 CARLOS, GET SOME HELP WITH THAT, BUDDY. 8 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:27,528 ARE YOU IN CHARGE HERE? 9 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:28,396 AT THE MOMENT. 10 00:00:28,429 --> 00:00:30,831 I LIVE IN THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. 11 00:00:30,864 --> 00:00:32,566 AND, UM, THE JACK-HAMMERING 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,069 AT 2:00 A.M, IT HAS TO STOP. 13 00:00:35,103 --> 00:00:36,570 OKAY, I'LL PASS IT ON. 14 00:00:36,604 --> 00:00:38,639 YOU WANNA GIVE HIM A HAND WITH THOSE BAGS, PLEASE? 15 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:41,409 YEAH, I'M SURE YOU'LL PASS IT ON. 16 00:00:41,442 --> 00:00:43,311 (man) WHAT MORE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? 17 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:45,213 THE GUY YOU TALKED TO SAID HE'D PASS IT ON. 18 00:00:45,246 --> 00:00:46,614 HE ONLY SAID THAT TO GET RID OF ME. 19 00:00:46,647 --> 00:00:49,317 GEE, I WONDER WHY HE'D WANT TO SAY THAT. 20 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:51,085 EXCUSE ME? 21 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:52,520 IT WAS A JOKE. 22 00:00:52,553 --> 00:00:53,787 TOTALLY LAME JOKE. 23 00:00:53,821 --> 00:00:55,623 NO, ROB, IT WASN'T. IT WAS-- 24 00:00:58,692 --> 00:00:59,760 OH, MY GOD! THE CRANE! 25 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:27,288 (man) HIS NAME'S CARLOS. CARLOS LAZARO. 26 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:29,223 WAS HE OPERATING THE CRANE? 27 00:01:29,257 --> 00:01:30,758 NO, NOBODY WAS USING THE CRANE. 28 00:01:30,791 --> 00:01:32,393 HE MUST'VE JUST BEEN WALKING BY. 29 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,362 (Lupo) WHAT ABOUT CARLOS' NEXT OF KIN? 30 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:35,396 HIS WIFE, 31 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:36,530 SHE'S SICK IN THE HOSPITAL. 32 00:01:36,564 --> 00:01:37,565 REST OF HIS FAMILY I DON'T KNOW. 33 00:01:37,598 --> 00:01:39,500 HE'S FROM THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. 34 00:01:39,533 --> 00:01:41,369 (female reporter) MR. HARDY, WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR HEAD 35 00:01:41,402 --> 00:01:42,403 WHEN YOU GOT THE CALL ABOUT TODAY'S CRANE COLLAPSE? 36 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:44,805 THIS IS THE GREATEST TRAGEDY EVER 37 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:47,608 TO HAPPEN TO THE HARDY ORGANIZATION. 38 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:50,778 EVERYONE AT HARDY IS COMMITTED TO SAFETY. 39 00:01:50,811 --> 00:01:52,713 AND THIS SITE IS NO EXCEPTION. 40 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:53,814 I'M WAYNE HARDY. 41 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:55,216 THIS IS MY PROJECT. 42 00:01:55,249 --> 00:01:56,584 I'M DETECTIVE LUPO. 43 00:01:56,617 --> 00:01:58,186 THIS IS DETECTIVE BERNARD. 44 00:01:58,219 --> 00:01:59,520 HOMICIDE WITH THE 2-7. 45 00:01:59,553 --> 00:02:00,388 HOMICIDE? 46 00:02:00,421 --> 00:02:03,624 WHAT DO WE NEED HOMICIDE DETECTIVES FOR? 47 00:02:03,657 --> 00:02:05,859 YOU DON'T, BUT HE DOES. 48 00:02:05,893 --> 00:02:07,295 UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, 49 00:02:07,328 --> 00:02:09,330 SIR, THIS IS A CRIME SCENE. 50 00:03:01,649 --> 00:03:03,317 THIS KIND OF THING NEVER HAPPENS ON A HARDY PROJECT. 51 00:03:03,351 --> 00:03:05,319 I BUILD LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS. 52 00:03:05,353 --> 00:03:06,820 PREMIER MATERIALS. 53 00:03:06,854 --> 00:03:09,223 PREMIER WORKMANSHIP, TOP TO BOTTOM. 54 00:03:09,257 --> 00:03:10,758 RIGHT, I'VE READ YOUR ADS. 55 00:03:10,791 --> 00:03:11,959 WHO WAS RUNNING YOUR SITE THIS MORNING? 56 00:03:11,992 --> 00:03:13,227 YOU MET HIM. 57 00:03:13,261 --> 00:03:14,995 THE JUNIOR FOREMAN GARY TALBOT. 58 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:18,366 MR. NOLAN, IT SAYS HERE IN YOUR FINAL BID 59 00:03:18,399 --> 00:03:20,334 FOR THIS PROJECT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE 60 00:03:20,368 --> 00:03:22,436 A T-65 CRANE. 61 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:25,673 THAT'S RIGHT. 62 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:27,675 THAT ONE OUT THERE LOOKS TO BE A T-35. 63 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:30,478 THAT'S A LOT SMALLER, ISN'T IT? 64 00:03:30,511 --> 00:03:31,979 T-35. HE'S RIGHT. 65 00:03:32,012 --> 00:03:33,547 TURNS OUT THE JOB NEEDED A SMALLER CRANE, 66 00:03:33,581 --> 00:03:34,782 SO THAT'S WHAT WE USED. 67 00:03:34,815 --> 00:03:36,817 AND THAT'S WHAT WE BILLED FOR, MR. HARDY. 68 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:38,319 YOU CAN CHECK THE INVOICES. 69 00:03:38,352 --> 00:03:39,320 I DON'T NEED TO SEE THE INVOICES. 70 00:03:39,353 --> 00:03:40,721 THIS IS MY FIFTH PROJECT 71 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:41,722 WITH CARL. 72 00:03:41,755 --> 00:03:43,391 HM, THIS IS OUR FIRST. 73 00:03:43,424 --> 00:03:45,326 SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL TAKE THOSE INVOICES. 74 00:03:45,359 --> 00:03:47,461 I USE T-35s ALL THE TIME, 75 00:03:47,495 --> 00:03:49,430 AND THIS ONE WAS 100% SAFE. 76 00:03:49,463 --> 00:03:51,265 BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. 77 00:03:51,299 --> 00:03:53,767 CITY INSPECTOR SAID SO TOO. 78 00:03:56,704 --> 00:03:59,507 23 YEARS I'M INSPECTING SITES IN THIS CITY, 79 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:01,375 NEVER HAD A SERIOUS INJURY ON MY WATCH 80 00:04:01,409 --> 00:04:02,743 AND NOW THIS. 81 00:04:02,776 --> 00:04:04,412 HOMICIDE DETECTIVES TO BOOT. 82 00:04:04,445 --> 00:04:07,448 JUST STANDARD PROCEDURE, MR. O'CONNOR. 83 00:04:07,481 --> 00:04:08,582 THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT CRANE. 84 00:04:08,616 --> 00:04:09,717 I GOT ALL THE PAPERS RIGHT HERE. 85 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,452 ALL RIGHT, TAKE YOUR TIME. 86 00:04:11,485 --> 00:04:12,453 WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 87 00:04:12,486 --> 00:04:14,021 NOW, THE BUILDINGS DEPARTMENT SAID THEY LOGGED 88 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:15,623 OVER TWO DOZEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SITE. 89 00:04:15,656 --> 00:04:17,525 YOU FOLLOWED UP ON LESS THAN HALF OF THEM. 90 00:04:17,558 --> 00:04:18,692 WELL, IT WAS ALWAYS THE SAME THING. 91 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:20,361 NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS 92 00:04:20,394 --> 00:04:22,463 ABOUT SOME NIGHT WORK AT THE SITE. 93 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:23,864 I ISSUED THREE SEPARATE VIOLATIONS. 94 00:04:23,897 --> 00:04:25,699 YEAH, AND THE COMPLAINTS KEPT COMING. 95 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:27,401 DOESN'T THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING? 96 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:29,437 THERE WERE NO SAFETY ISSUES AT THAT SITE, OKAY? 97 00:04:29,470 --> 00:04:32,906 THIS WAS A FREAK ACCIDENT. 98 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:33,974 THE CRANE WAS ANCHORED TO THE BUILDING 99 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:35,609 WITH STEEL COLLARS 100 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:37,511 ON THE 6TH, 9TH, 12TH, AND 15TH FLOORS. 101 00:04:37,545 --> 00:04:39,413 WHEN THE COLLARS FAILED, CRANE CAME DOWN. 102 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:42,049 DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHICH ONE FAILED FIRST? 103 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:43,617 OH, YEAH, THIS ONE. 104 00:04:43,651 --> 00:04:45,419 THE NINTH FLOOR. POINT OF GREATEST STRESS. 105 00:04:45,453 --> 00:04:46,554 ONCE IT WENT, THE REST WENT POP 106 00:04:46,587 --> 00:04:47,888 LIKE BUTTONS ON A SHIRT. 107 00:04:47,921 --> 00:04:48,956 SO WHY DID THIS ONE FAIL? 108 00:04:48,989 --> 00:04:50,958 OH, WELL, THIS MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. 109 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:54,562 T-35 HAS A LOAD-BEARING CAPACITY OF SIX TONS PER LIFT. 110 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:58,399 THESE WORK LOGS SHOW IT LIFTING 6 1/2, 7, EVEN 8 TONS? 111 00:04:58,432 --> 00:05:00,801 AN AVERAGE OF 7.96 TONS PER LIFT. 112 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:01,969 DO THAT LONG ENOUGH... 113 00:05:02,002 --> 00:05:04,372 YEAH, SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE. 114 00:05:04,405 --> 00:05:05,339 OVERLOADING THE CRANE. 115 00:05:05,373 --> 00:05:07,341 RUNNING NIGHT SHIFTS. 116 00:05:07,375 --> 00:05:09,109 SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE WAS IN A HURRY 117 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:10,544 TO FINISH THAT BUILDING. 118 00:05:10,578 --> 00:05:12,480 WELL, TIME IS MONEY, THOUGH. 119 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:13,347 SO MAYBE IT WAS WORTH A LITTLE MONEY 120 00:05:13,381 --> 00:05:14,482 TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK THE OTHER WAY. 121 00:05:14,515 --> 00:05:18,452 THE FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT IS VERY ANXIOUS TO TALK TO YOU. 122 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,788 GREAT, AFTER A MORNING OF FORENSIC ENGINEERING, 123 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:22,456 NOTHING BEATS A LITTLE FORENSIC ACCOUNTING. 124 00:05:22,490 --> 00:05:23,724 [Bernard chuckles] HEY, WHAT YOU GOT? 125 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:25,058 GENTLEMEN, HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT. 126 00:05:25,092 --> 00:05:26,960 THESE PETTY CASH RECEIPTS DON'T ADD UP. 127 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:28,796 PETTY CASH THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY 128 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:31,532 KEEPS IN A SAFE ON THE SITE. 129 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:33,834 LAST WEEK IT WAS SHORT $3,660. 130 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:36,404 WEEK BEFORE THAT SHORT $5,700. 131 00:05:36,437 --> 00:05:38,439 IF SOMEBODY WAS GETTING BRIBED, 132 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:39,473 MAYBE THAT MONEY WAS COMING FROM HERE. 133 00:05:39,507 --> 00:05:40,608 WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE PETTY CASH? 134 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:43,343 UH, FOREMAN GARY TALBOT. 135 00:05:46,414 --> 00:05:48,416 YOU CAN'T RECEIPT EVERY OUT OF POCKET EXPENSE 136 00:05:48,449 --> 00:05:51,118 ON A $200 MILLION BUILDING. 137 00:05:51,151 --> 00:05:53,120 ANYWAY, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH ACCESS TO THE PETTY CASH. 138 00:05:53,153 --> 00:05:55,456 NIGHT SHIFT HAS ITS OWN FOREMAN. 139 00:05:55,489 --> 00:05:57,591 WE NOTICED YOU GUYS WERE PULLING A LOT OF OVERTIME 140 00:05:57,625 --> 00:05:59,126 ON TOP OF THE NIGHT SHIFTS. 141 00:05:59,159 --> 00:06:01,462 YOU UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE TO FINISH THE JOB? 142 00:06:01,495 --> 00:06:03,464 YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS PRESSURE. 143 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:06,099 WHAT ABOUT THESE 7-, 8-TON LOADS 144 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:08,001 ON THAT T-35? 145 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:10,137 THE CRANE WASN'T MY AREA. 146 00:06:10,170 --> 00:06:12,440 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHATEVER WE DID ON THAT SITE, 147 00:06:12,473 --> 00:06:13,707 WE GOT WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM THE INSPECTOR 148 00:06:13,741 --> 00:06:14,542 EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. 149 00:06:14,575 --> 00:06:16,910 WHERE WOULD WE FIND THOSE APPROVALS? 150 00:06:16,944 --> 00:06:19,413 I GOT 'EM. I GOT COPIES OF EVERYTHING. 151 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:24,718 BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW 152 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:26,186 IT'S A PASS THE BUCK KIND OF BUSINESS. 153 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:28,121 HONEY, CAN YOU COME HELP ME WITH LACEY? 154 00:06:28,155 --> 00:06:29,122 SURE. 155 00:06:29,156 --> 00:06:30,424 MY DAUGHTER. 156 00:06:30,458 --> 00:06:33,160 THAT'S FINE. 157 00:06:33,193 --> 00:06:34,762 GUY'S RIGHT. 158 00:06:34,795 --> 00:06:36,096 FAXES FROM THE CITY INSPECTOR 159 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:38,065 APPROVING THE NIGHT SHIFTS, THE HEAVIER LOADS. 160 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:39,433 CHECK THIS OUT. 161 00:06:39,467 --> 00:06:41,969 THE NUMBER THAT THIS WAS FAXED FROM 162 00:06:42,002 --> 00:06:43,671 DOESN'T MATCH THE NUMBER ON THE COVER SHEET. 163 00:06:43,704 --> 00:06:45,973 6-3-1 AREA CODE. 164 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:49,142 A CITY INSPECTOR FAXING FROM THE HAMPTONS 165 00:06:49,176 --> 00:06:50,678 ON A WEEKDAY AFTERNOON. 166 00:06:50,711 --> 00:06:53,781 NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT. 167 00:06:53,814 --> 00:06:57,017 CAN WE HELP YOU WITH THOSE? 168 00:06:57,050 --> 00:07:01,021 OH, NO, IT'S OKAY. 169 00:07:01,054 --> 00:07:02,923 GET BACK IN THE HOUSE WITH YOUR MOTHER. 170 00:07:02,956 --> 00:07:05,926 GO ON. 171 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:08,496 IT'S A FRIEND OF MY WIFE'S FAMILY 172 00:07:08,529 --> 00:07:09,497 LENT US THE PLACE FOR THE WEEK. 173 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:11,231 BUT NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, 174 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:12,900 TIME TO GET BACK TO THE REAL WORLD. 175 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:14,134 THAT FRIEND, IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO BE 176 00:07:14,167 --> 00:07:15,836 HUDSON RIVER RENTALS, WOULD IT? 177 00:07:15,869 --> 00:07:17,170 'CAUSE THEY--THEY SAID YOUR WIFE 178 00:07:17,204 --> 00:07:20,808 TOOK A THREE-MONTH LEASE AT $15,000 A MONTH. 179 00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:22,643 NICE RIDE. 180 00:07:22,676 --> 00:07:24,244 FANCY BOARDING SCHOOL FOR YOUR DAUGHTER. 181 00:07:24,277 --> 00:07:26,647 MY PARTNER AND I, WE'RE STARTING TO THINK 182 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,216 THAT WE GOT THE WRONG CITY JOB. 183 00:07:31,218 --> 00:07:32,586 COME ON, GUYS. 184 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:35,188 CAN'T WE DO THIS TOMORROW? 185 00:07:35,222 --> 00:07:37,024 NAH. 186 00:07:37,057 --> 00:07:39,493 TURN AROUND. 187 00:07:39,527 --> 00:07:42,496 I SPENT 20 YEARS WATCHING GUYS TAKE BRIBES 188 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:44,532 AND GET PROMOTED WHILE DOING IT. 189 00:07:44,565 --> 00:07:45,899 THAT'S NOT ME. 190 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:48,235 RIGHT, YOU IS THE GUY THAT TOOK BRIBES 191 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:49,603 BUT NEVER MADE IT TO SUPERVISOR. 192 00:07:49,637 --> 00:07:51,238 EDDIE, 193 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:53,206 YOU HAVE 200,000 IN EXPENSES 194 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,709 THAT WE CAN TRACE BACK TO YOU. 195 00:07:55,743 --> 00:07:57,845 AND NO LEGITIMATE INCOME TO COVER IT. 196 00:07:57,878 --> 00:07:59,680 AND NOW THERE'S A BODY. 197 00:07:59,713 --> 00:08:02,550 I JUST WANTED-- 198 00:08:02,583 --> 00:08:04,151 I--I--I NEVER MEANT-- 199 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:05,986 YEAH, REMORSE IS GOOD, EDDIE. 200 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:10,190 REMORSE WITH A CONFESSION IS EVEN BETTER. 201 00:08:10,223 --> 00:08:12,560 OR THIS CRANE THING FALLS ON YOU. 202 00:08:18,031 --> 00:08:20,033 NOLAN THE CONTRACTOR, 203 00:08:20,067 --> 00:08:21,835 HE'S THE ONE WHO FIRST APPROACHED ME 204 00:08:21,869 --> 00:08:23,270 ABOUT APPROVING THE SMALLER CRANE 205 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:24,204 AND THE HEAVIER LOADS. 206 00:08:24,237 --> 00:08:27,040 WHO MADE THE PAYMENTS? 207 00:08:27,074 --> 00:08:28,842 THE FOREMAN. 208 00:08:28,876 --> 00:08:30,110 TALBOT? 209 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:31,712 NO, THE NIGHT FOREMAN. 210 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:33,213 TALBOT WASN'T IN THE LOOP. 211 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:34,648 WHO ELSE WAS? 212 00:08:34,682 --> 00:08:37,250 THE BIG GUY, WAYNE HARDY. 213 00:08:37,284 --> 00:08:39,587 HE OFFERED TO MAKE SURE I GOT ASSIGNED 214 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:43,591 TO HIS NEXT PROJECT IF THIS ONE CAME IN ON TIME. 215 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:46,159 [sighs] 216 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:47,160 [female reporter on TV] WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE CHARGES? 217 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:49,296 [Hardy on TV] BIGGEST MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE! 218 00:08:49,329 --> 00:08:52,232 I PITY HIS CELLMATES. 219 00:08:52,265 --> 00:08:53,867 SOMETHING'S NOT ADDING UP. 220 00:08:53,901 --> 00:08:54,935 THE MISSING MONEY FROM THE PETTY CASH 221 00:08:54,968 --> 00:08:56,036 THAT WE THOUGHT THE NIGHT FOREMAN 222 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,304 WAS USING TO BRIBE O'CONNOR, 223 00:08:57,337 --> 00:08:58,271 THE NIGHT FOREMAN SAID HE USED MONEY 224 00:08:58,305 --> 00:08:59,072 HE GOT STRAIGHT FROM NOLAN. 225 00:08:59,106 --> 00:09:01,709 MAYBE THE PETTY CASH WAS BEING USED 226 00:09:01,742 --> 00:09:02,776 TO PAY OFF SOMEONE ELSE. 227 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:05,045 WELL, THESE TWO HAVE TO BE ARRAIGNED BY TOMORROW 228 00:09:05,078 --> 00:09:07,547 AND YOU KNOW HOW THE D.A. HATES SURPRISES. 229 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:12,219 "WHO NEEDS MATH?" I TOLD MY TEACHERS. 230 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:14,321 I'M GONNA BE A COP. 231 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:15,188 DON'T FEEL BAD. 232 00:09:15,222 --> 00:09:17,290 I SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT BIOLOGY. 233 00:09:17,324 --> 00:09:19,960 NOW I SPEND HALF MY LIFE LOOKING AT AUTOPSIES. 234 00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:21,194 HERE. 235 00:09:21,228 --> 00:09:23,997 CONTENTS OF THE POCKETS OF THAT CRANE FATALITY. 236 00:09:24,031 --> 00:09:25,866 CARLOS LAZARO. 237 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:27,768 I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TRACK DOWN HIS NEXT OF KIN. 238 00:09:27,801 --> 00:09:29,269 LET ME TELL YOU. 239 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:31,204 DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 240 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:32,940 IS JUST AS SCREWED UP AS HERE. 241 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:35,609 WAIT, ISN'T HIS WIFE IN A HOSPITAL IN QUEENS? 242 00:09:35,643 --> 00:09:36,644 YEAH, 243 00:09:36,677 --> 00:09:37,911 BUT SHE'S NONRESPONSIVE. 244 00:09:37,945 --> 00:09:39,146 SOME SORT OF COMA. 245 00:09:39,179 --> 00:09:42,082 I CAN RELATE. MY WIFE'S NONRESPONSIVE TOO. 246 00:09:42,115 --> 00:09:44,384 NIGHT, FELLAS. 247 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:47,020 IF I EVER START TALKING LIKE THAT, SHOOT ME. 248 00:09:47,054 --> 00:09:49,122 LUPES, IT'S THE HOSPITAL BILL FOR THE CARE 249 00:09:49,156 --> 00:09:51,124 OF MR. LAZARO'S WIFE. 250 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:54,361 CHECK OUT THE RECORD OF PAYMENTS. 251 00:09:54,394 --> 00:09:56,396 YOU GOT ONE FOR $3,660 252 00:09:56,429 --> 00:09:58,732 AND ANOTHER ONE FOR $5,700. 253 00:09:58,766 --> 00:10:01,635 THE SAME AMOUNTS MISSING FROM THE PETTY CASH. 254 00:10:01,669 --> 00:10:02,870 YEAH, THAT MONEY WAS IN THE SAFE 255 00:10:02,903 --> 00:10:04,738 IN THE CONSTRUCTION OFFICE. 256 00:10:04,772 --> 00:10:06,940 HARD TO BELIEVE A DAY LABORER LIKE CARLOS 257 00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:08,408 COULD GET AWAY WITH THAT. 258 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:10,978 THAT LEAVES THAT FOREMAN, GARY TALBOT. 259 00:10:11,011 --> 00:10:12,680 YOU BUY HIM AS SOME KIND OF ROBIN HOOD, 260 00:10:12,713 --> 00:10:14,915 STEALING TO HELP CARLOS? 261 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:15,983 NAW--NO, NO, NO. 262 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:16,984 NOBODY'S THAT NICE. 263 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,086 NOT EVEN ROBIN HOOD. 264 00:10:22,022 --> 00:10:23,223 THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE 265 00:10:23,256 --> 00:10:25,258 SINCE THE BROUGHT HER IN FOUR WEEKS AGO. 266 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:27,127 MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS AN OVERDOSE, 267 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,962 BUT HER TOX PANEL CAME BACK CLEAN. 268 00:10:28,996 --> 00:10:32,299 SO HOW DID MRS. LAZARO END UP IN A COMA? 269 00:10:32,332 --> 00:10:34,034 WELL, I FOUND CHLORINE IN HER LUNG TISSUE, 270 00:10:34,067 --> 00:10:35,335 SO MY BEST GUEST IS SHE DROWNED. 271 00:10:35,368 --> 00:10:36,436 ARE YOU SURE? 272 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:38,371 THE 9-1-1 PRINT-OUT SAID HER HUSBAND 273 00:10:38,405 --> 00:10:39,940 CAME HOME FROM WORK AND FOUND HER 274 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,241 PASSED OUT IN THE LIVING ROOM. 275 00:10:41,274 --> 00:10:42,876 THIS WAS A DRY DROWNING. 276 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:45,078 IT'S BASICALLY A DELAYED 277 00:10:45,112 --> 00:10:46,213 REACTION DROWNING. 278 00:10:46,246 --> 00:10:47,681 THE PATIENT INHALES WATER. 279 00:10:47,715 --> 00:10:49,182 NOT ENOUGH TO KILL THEM RIGHT THEN AND THERE. 280 00:10:49,216 --> 00:10:51,919 BUT IT STARTS THIS CHAIN REACTION IN THE LUNGS WHICH, 281 00:10:51,952 --> 00:10:56,056 ABSENT MEDICAL INTERVENTION, ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN DEATH. 282 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:58,992 OR AS WITH MRS. LAZARO, A PERSISTENT COMA. 283 00:10:59,026 --> 00:11:00,928 SO DURING THIS CHAIN REACTION, 284 00:11:00,961 --> 00:11:03,263 SHE'S WHAT, WALKING AROUND LIKE NORMAL? 285 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:05,733 WALKING AROUND, YES. NORMAL, NO. 286 00:11:05,766 --> 00:11:08,435 HER BEHAVIOR WOULD'VE BECOME INCREASINGLY ERRATIC 287 00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:09,837 UNTIL SHE LOST CONSCIOUSNESS. 288 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:11,739 CAN YOU PINPOINT EXACTLY WHEN 289 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:13,173 SHE INHALED THE CHLORINATED WATER? 290 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:15,142 MY BEST GUESS IS IT HAPPENED 291 00:11:15,175 --> 00:11:17,745 10-12 HOURS BEFORE SHE LANDED IN MY E.R. 292 00:11:17,778 --> 00:11:19,880 DR. GRABER, DR. KELLEN IS LOOKING FOR YOU. 293 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:20,848 GOOD LUCK. 294 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:22,082 ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 295 00:11:26,286 --> 00:11:29,156 SO SAD ABOUT HER HUSBAND. 296 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:31,224 HE WAS HERE EVERY DAY AFTER WORK. 297 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:32,726 EVERY DAY. 298 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,828 HE EVER TALK ABOUT HOW SHE MIGHT'VE DROWNED? 299 00:11:34,862 --> 00:11:35,695 NOPE. 300 00:11:35,729 --> 00:11:37,464 SHE EVER HAVE ANY FRIENDS VISIT HER? 301 00:11:37,497 --> 00:11:38,732 UM, HER NEIGHBORS THE FIRST WEEK. 302 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:40,000 SINCE THEN IT'S JUST BEEN HER HUSBAND. 303 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:43,303 SOMETIMES THIS GUY GARY. 304 00:11:43,336 --> 00:11:44,972 GARY? 305 00:11:45,005 --> 00:11:46,306 UH, HOW OFTEN DOES HE COME? 306 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:49,042 EVERY WEEK. THURSDAYS, LATE. 307 00:11:49,076 --> 00:11:51,979 HE SAYS HE'S A FAMILY FRIEND. 308 00:11:52,012 --> 00:11:53,881 SUCH A SHAME. AMELIA'S SO BEAUTIFUL. 309 00:11:59,987 --> 00:12:01,755 THE THURSDAYS ARE WHEN THE PAYMENTS WERE MADE 310 00:12:01,789 --> 00:12:02,790 FOR HER CARE. 311 00:12:02,823 --> 00:12:06,293 ROBIN HOOD OR ROBIN CREEP. 312 00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:07,394 YOU KNOW, IF TALBOT WAS STEALING 313 00:12:07,427 --> 00:12:08,896 TO PAY FOR HER HOSPITAL BILLS, 314 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:10,197 MAYBE HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH PUTTING HER HERE. 315 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:13,233 GUILT MAKES PEOPLE DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS. 316 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:23,443 ALL DUE RESPECT, LOO, 317 00:12:23,476 --> 00:12:24,978 NICE AS YOU ARE, I JUST DON'T SEE YOU 318 00:12:25,012 --> 00:12:26,179 STEALING FROM THE COMPANY TILL 319 00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:28,115 TO PAY FOR MY WIFE'S HOSPITAL CARE. 320 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:29,983 UH, ASSUMING I HAD A WIFE. 321 00:12:30,017 --> 00:12:31,484 WHO SAID I WAS NICE? 322 00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:32,519 [laughter] 323 00:12:32,552 --> 00:12:33,720 SO WHAT ARE WE SUSPECTING? 324 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:36,123 TALBOT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS WOMAN'S NEAR-DROWNING? 325 00:12:36,156 --> 00:12:38,158 WELL, MAYBE THEY HAD A LOT MORE TO DO WITH EACH OTHER. 326 00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:41,161 SO NOW WE HAVE TALBOT AND CARLOS' WIFE 327 00:12:41,194 --> 00:12:42,863 HAVING AN AFFAIR. 328 00:12:42,896 --> 00:12:43,831 THEY'RE KICKING BACK 329 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,198 IN A MOTEL HOT TUB. 330 00:12:45,232 --> 00:12:47,901 MAYBE ONE OF 'EM STARTS MAKING PLANS FOR THE FUTURE. 331 00:12:47,935 --> 00:12:49,036 AND THINGS GOT UGLY FROM THERE. 332 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:50,537 AMELIA ENDS UP IN THE HOSPITAL 333 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:51,604 WITH A LUNG FULL OF WATER 334 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:55,008 WHILE TALBOT ENDS UP WITH HEART FULL OF REMORSE. 335 00:12:55,042 --> 00:12:58,111 SO THE CRANE FALLING ON CARLOS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 336 00:12:58,145 --> 00:12:59,880 NOT UNLESS TALBOT PULLED THE CRANE DOWN ON TOP OF HIM. 337 00:12:59,913 --> 00:13:02,449 THEN THESE ARE TWO UNRELATED CRIMES. 338 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:04,952 SO ONE OF THEM WAS JUST A SWIMMING ACCIDENT. 339 00:13:04,985 --> 00:13:06,954 LISTEN, TALBOT IS AN IMPORTANT WITNESS 340 00:13:06,987 --> 00:13:08,555 AGAINST THE CITY INSPECTOR 341 00:13:08,588 --> 00:13:11,024 AND THE D.A. DOESN'T WANT US MESSING WITH THAT CASE. 342 00:13:11,058 --> 00:13:12,525 YOU TELLING US TO BURY THIS? 343 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,928 OPEN A NEW ONE. 344 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:17,030 FIRST ITEM, SEARCH LAZARO'S HOME. 345 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:22,102 I NEVER SEE AMELIA WITH ANY MAN 346 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:23,603 EXCEPT CARLOS. 347 00:13:23,636 --> 00:13:25,338 NO OTHER MAN. SHE LOVE HIM. 348 00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:27,374 SO DID YOU SEE HER THE DAY SHE GOT SICK? 349 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:29,542 SI, IN THE ELEVATOR. 350 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:31,144 I THOUGHT SHE WAS DRUNK. 351 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:33,446 SHE DIDN'T REMEMBER WHAT FLOOR SHE LIVE IN. 352 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,982 SHE SAY SHE DON'T FEEL SO GOOD, 353 00:13:35,015 --> 00:13:36,383 SO I TELL HER GO TO THE DOCTOR. [pager beeping] 354 00:13:36,416 --> 00:13:38,418 AMELIA EVER GO SWIMMING? 355 00:13:38,451 --> 00:13:40,387 NAH, I THINK AMELIA'S AFRAID OF THE WATER. 356 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:41,955 WHY DO YOU THINK THAT? 357 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:42,956 WELL, THERE IS THIS POOL 358 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:44,524 OVER HERE IN THE PARK. 359 00:13:44,557 --> 00:13:46,559 IT'S NOT DEEP. IT'S FOR KIDS. 360 00:13:46,593 --> 00:13:48,862 BUT ONE TIME THE WIND TAKE HER HAT 361 00:13:48,896 --> 00:13:50,998 INTO THE WATER. 362 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:52,032 SHE WAS AFRAID TO GO IN. 363 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,033 SHE ASKED MY SON TO GET IT. 364 00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,969 I HAVE TO GO. [pager beeping] 365 00:14:01,041 --> 00:14:02,209 HEY, LUPES. 366 00:14:02,242 --> 00:14:04,011 YOU GOT TALBOT'S NUMBER ON YOU? 367 00:14:04,044 --> 00:14:06,079 YEAH. IS THAT AMELIA'S PHONE? 368 00:14:06,113 --> 00:14:08,648 YEAH, PREPAID, NO I.D. CELL PHONE 369 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:11,484 WITH TWO NUMBERS IN THE ADDRESS BOOK. 370 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:13,386 ONE FOR CARLOS AND... 371 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:14,621 THE OTHER FOR TALBOT? 372 00:14:14,654 --> 00:14:16,656 HOW COZY. 373 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:18,291 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MISSING MONEY. 374 00:14:18,325 --> 00:14:19,659 PROBABLY WENT IN THAT CITY INSPECTOR'S POCKET. 375 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:20,894 NO, NO, NO. 376 00:14:20,928 --> 00:14:21,895 SEE, WE KNOW WHERE IT WENT. 377 00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:22,963 IT ALL MATCHES UP. 378 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:25,665 THE MISSING MONEY AND THE MONEY 379 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:26,666 THAT YOU PAID TO THE HOSPITAL. 380 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:27,968 THAT I PAID? 381 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:29,569 THE NURSES RECOGNIZED YOU, GARY. 382 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:32,639 ALL RIGHT, LOOK, CARLOS WAS HAVING A HARD TIME. 383 00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:34,007 THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SHIPPING AMELIA BACK 384 00:14:34,041 --> 00:14:35,008 TO HER OWN COUNTRY-- 385 00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:35,909 DON'T EVEN WASTE YOUR BREATH. 386 00:14:35,943 --> 00:14:38,111 BECAUSE WE FOUND THIS ADORABLE LITTLE PHONE 387 00:14:38,145 --> 00:14:39,980 IN AMELIA'S PURSE. 388 00:14:40,013 --> 00:14:42,615 IT'S PREPAID, NO I.D., UNTRACEABLE. 389 00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:45,218 PERFECT FOR PEOPLE HAVING EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS. 390 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:46,386 NO. 391 00:14:46,419 --> 00:14:48,922 I LOVE MY WIFE. 392 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:49,756 THAT'S IT. 393 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:53,226 I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU GUYS ANYMORE. 394 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:55,028 YOU KNOW, WITH TWO OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES 395 00:14:55,062 --> 00:14:56,363 EITHER DEAD OR IN A COMA, 396 00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:58,398 DEPENDING ON HOW WELL TALBOT COVERED HIS TRACKS, 397 00:14:58,431 --> 00:15:00,133 IT'S GONNA BE HARD PROVING HE WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR. 398 00:15:03,370 --> 00:15:06,940 THERE'S ALWAYS TALBOT'S WIFE. 399 00:15:06,974 --> 00:15:08,408 EVERY MORNING'S THE SAME. 400 00:15:08,441 --> 00:15:10,443 GARY WOULD'VE BEEN HELPING ME WITH LACEY. 401 00:15:10,477 --> 00:15:13,680 BUT TUESDAY FOUR WEEKS AGO, HOW WOULD I REMEMBER? 402 00:15:13,713 --> 00:15:15,615 THAT WAS THE DAY THAT THE WIFE 403 00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:18,651 OF ONE OF YOUR HUSBAND'S EMPLOYEES WAS FOUND IN A COMA. 404 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:20,320 AMELIA LAZARO. 405 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:22,389 THAT NAME MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? 406 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,192 AMELIA LAZARO? WHY ARE YOU ASKING? 407 00:15:25,225 --> 00:15:27,961 BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND'S NUMBER WAS FOUND ON HER PHONE. 408 00:15:27,995 --> 00:15:30,163 I--I GAVE HER THAT PHONE 409 00:15:30,197 --> 00:15:31,731 WITH OUR NUMBER PROGRAMMED ON IT. 410 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:34,067 WHY--WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? 411 00:15:34,101 --> 00:15:35,735 BECAUSE SHE WORKED FOR US A FEW DAYS A WEEK 412 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:37,237 HELPING OUT WITH LACEY. 413 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,439 IS THERE ANY REASON YOUR HUSBAND WOULDN'T 414 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:40,540 HAVE MENTIONED THAT TO US? 415 00:15:40,573 --> 00:15:43,543 AMELIA DOESN'T HAVE ANY PAPERS. 416 00:15:43,576 --> 00:15:46,046 WE WERE PAYING HER UNDER THE TABLE. 417 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:47,014 DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR HUSBAND 418 00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:48,248 WAS VISITING HER IN THE HOSPITAL? 419 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:49,249 WELL, WHY WOULDN'T HE? 420 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,351 SHE WORKED FOR US. 421 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:52,385 WELL, WE THINK YOUR HUSBAND WAS PAYING 422 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:53,486 FOR HER MEDICAL BILLS WITH MONEY 423 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,024 HE WAS STEALING FROM HIS WORK. 424 00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,325 YOU SEE, IN OUR EXPERIENCE, 425 00:15:58,358 --> 00:16:00,427 THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT SOMEONE WOULD DO 426 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:03,296 FOR THEIR EMPLOYEE UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE 427 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:04,331 GOING ON BETWEEN THEM. 428 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,700 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. 429 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:08,701 SHE JUST HELPED US OUT WITH OUR DAUGHTER. 430 00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:10,670 THAT'S ALL. 431 00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:12,139 IF YOU DON'T MIND, I HAVE TO TAKE LACEY 432 00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:13,640 TO THE DOCTOR. 433 00:16:15,775 --> 00:16:18,778 OH, THESE ARE WATER WINGS, RIGHT? 434 00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:20,180 THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, THEY'RE CUTE. 435 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:22,415 YOU--YOU TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER SWIMMING? 436 00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:25,052 IT'S WATER THERAPY. 437 00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:26,753 WATER THERAPY. 438 00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:29,222 THAT MEANS TALBOT HAS ACCESS TO A POOL 439 00:16:29,256 --> 00:16:31,491 WHICH MAY BE WHERE THE CHLORINATED WATER 440 00:16:31,524 --> 00:16:33,760 IN AMELIA'S LUNGS CAME FROM. 441 00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:36,329 EXCEPT TALBOT ALIBIS FOR THE 12 HOURS 442 00:16:36,363 --> 00:16:38,098 BEFORE AMELIA DROPPED INTO A COMA. 443 00:16:38,131 --> 00:16:39,666 HE WAS PULLING DOUBLE SHIFTS 444 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:41,734 AT WAYNE HARDY'S LUXURY SALT MINE. 445 00:16:41,768 --> 00:16:43,236 WELL, THAT LEAVES MRS. TALBOT. 446 00:16:43,270 --> 00:16:45,538 SHE MAY'VE GOTTEN INTO IT WITH AMELIA 447 00:16:45,572 --> 00:16:47,207 IF SHE SUSPECTED HER HUSBAND WAS CHEATING ON HER. 448 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,076 IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TIME. 449 00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:50,077 A DIVORCE PETITION 450 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:52,179 GARY TALBOT FILED LAST YEAR. 451 00:16:52,212 --> 00:16:54,247 IT WAS WITHDRAWN A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER. 452 00:16:54,281 --> 00:16:55,715 SOUNDS LIKE THIS GUY WAS JUST ITCHING 453 00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:57,284 TO GET OUT OF HIS MARRIAGE. 454 00:16:57,317 --> 00:16:58,751 MM-HMM, AND SANDRA KNEW DAMN WELL WHY. 455 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:01,421 WELL, THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE PUT SANDRA 456 00:17:01,454 --> 00:17:03,356 WITH AMELIA ON THE DAY SHE WENT INTO A COMA? 457 00:17:03,390 --> 00:17:04,557 I CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT. 458 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:07,394 9:26 A.M., SANDRA CHARGED TWO METRO CARDS 459 00:17:07,427 --> 00:17:09,229 AT THE 86TH AND LEX STATION NEAR THEIR APARTMENT. 460 00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,830 TWO METRO CARDS. 461 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:11,831 ONE FOR HER AND LACEY, THE OTHER FOR AMELIA. 462 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:13,600 THERE YOU GO. 463 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:14,534 HALF AN HOUR LATER, THERE'S A PURCHASE AT A DELI 464 00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:17,070 ON UNION SQUARE AND 90 MINUTES AFTER THAT 465 00:17:17,104 --> 00:17:19,406 A CHARGE AT A DRUG STORE AT 18TH AND PARK. 466 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:21,741 AN HOUR AND A HALF IN A THREE-BLOCK RADIUS. 467 00:17:21,774 --> 00:17:23,310 IS THERE A SWIMMING POOL THERE? 468 00:17:23,343 --> 00:17:24,711 RIGHT. 469 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:28,348 THE MICHAEL PHELPS WANNABES CLEAR OUT BY 10:00. 470 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:30,817 MRS. TALBOT HAD PERMISSION TO BRING HER DAUGHTER IN 471 00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:32,819 BETWEEN 10:00 AND 11:00 WHEN THERE WAS NOBODY HERE 472 00:17:32,852 --> 00:17:34,521 TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE KID SCREECHING. 473 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:35,588 WHAT ABOUT THIS WOMAN? 474 00:17:35,622 --> 00:17:37,757 HAVE YOU SEEN HER WITH THEM? 475 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:40,427 SURE, YEAH, THE MAID, THE HELPER, WHATEVER. 476 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:41,728 SHE DIDN'T LIKE THE WATER 477 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:43,363 SO SHE'D STAND ON THE EDGE OF THE POOL, 478 00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:44,664 HAND MRS. TALBOT TOWELS, 479 00:17:44,697 --> 00:17:45,832 HELP THE LITTLE GIRL IN AND OUT OF THE WHEELCHAIR. 480 00:17:45,865 --> 00:17:46,933 THINGS LIKE THAT. 481 00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:49,336 DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT THEY WERE HERE? 482 00:17:49,369 --> 00:17:50,803 MAYBE ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO? 483 00:17:50,837 --> 00:17:53,106 SURE, YEAH, THE HELPER FELL IN THE POOL. 484 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:56,309 HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? 485 00:17:56,343 --> 00:17:57,144 I DIDN'T SEE. 486 00:17:57,177 --> 00:17:59,179 I WAS HERE, I HEARD SOME ARGUING, 487 00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:00,180 AND THEN A BIG SPLASH. 488 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:01,714 WHAT WAS THE ARGUMENT ABOUT? 489 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:03,316 I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM IN HERE. 490 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:05,352 WAY TOO MUCH ECHO BOUNCING OFF THE TILES. 491 00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:06,719 THAT BIG SPLASH, 492 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:09,489 COULD IT HAVE BEEN THE LITTLE GIRL OR MRS. TALBOT? 493 00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:11,158 I GUESS IT COULD'VE BEEN, 494 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,726 BUT WHEN I WENT OUT TO THE POOL, 495 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,562 THE WERE BONE DRY AND THE HELPER 496 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:16,696 WAS STANDING THERE SOAKED AND CRYING. 497 00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:18,865 SO YOU TELL ME. 498 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:21,601 NOBODY SAW SANDRA TALBOT PUSH HER IN THE POOL. 499 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:22,602 BUT THERE'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. 500 00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:23,636 THERE WAS A BIG SPLASH. 501 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:24,637 AMELIA WAS SOAKING WET. 502 00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:26,739 YEAH, AND EVERYBODY KNEW SHE WAS AFRAID OF WATER. 503 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,641 SO IT'S NOT LIKE SHE JUST DOVE IN. 504 00:18:28,675 --> 00:18:30,843 EVEN IF MRS. TALBOT PUSHED HER IN, 505 00:18:30,877 --> 00:18:32,512 SHE GOT OUT AND WALKED AWAY. 506 00:18:32,545 --> 00:18:33,680 YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. 507 00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:35,648 IF SHE HADN'T BEEN PUSHED IN THE POOL IN THE FIRST PLACE, 508 00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:36,716 SHE WOULDN'T BE IN A COMA RIGHT NOW. 509 00:18:36,749 --> 00:18:38,751 IT'S ATTEMPTED MURDER. 510 00:18:45,558 --> 00:18:46,326 MRS. TALBOT, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST 511 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,294 FOR THE MURDER OF AMELIA LAZARO. 512 00:18:47,327 --> 00:18:48,728 WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. 513 00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:49,596 HEY! (Sandra) GARY! 514 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:50,297 IT'S OKAY, BABY. I'LL TAKE CARE OF THIS. 515 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:53,266 LACEY, MOMMY WILL BE RIGHT BACK. 516 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:54,467 STAND BACK. NO! 517 00:18:54,501 --> 00:18:55,735 MR. TALBOT. 518 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:56,769 SHE'S DONE NOTHING! 519 00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:58,371 I'LL BE RIGHT BACK, OKAY, HONEY! 520 00:18:58,405 --> 00:18:59,706 I'LL TAKE CARE OF HER, BABY. IT'S OKAY. 521 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:01,241 DON'T WORRY. 522 00:19:01,274 --> 00:19:03,276 OKAY, SWEETIE. 523 00:19:08,548 --> 00:19:09,616 DOCKET NUMBER 4-2-6-4-1. 524 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:10,883 PEOPLE V. SANDRA TALBOT. 525 00:19:10,917 --> 00:19:12,352 ATTEMPTED MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 526 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:13,820 ASSAULT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. 527 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:16,356 WE PLEAD NOT GUILTY AND REQUEST R.O.R. 528 00:19:16,389 --> 00:19:17,757 FOR A CLASS A-1 FELONY? 529 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:19,192 THIS WAS A SLIP AND FALL. 530 00:19:19,226 --> 00:19:21,328 WELL, MR. GOODWIN CAN ARGUE THAT TO A JURY. 531 00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:23,830 (Goodwin) YOUR HONOR, MY CLIENT'S NINE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER 532 00:19:23,863 --> 00:19:25,498 HAS STATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY. 533 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:28,401 SHE CAN'T MOVE, EAT, OR GO TO THE BATHROOM 534 00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:29,469 WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. 535 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:30,770 MY CLIENT'S HUSBAND HAS TO WORK 536 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:32,239 TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY. 537 00:19:32,272 --> 00:19:33,706 THERE IS NO OTHER HELP. 538 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:34,741 MY CLIENT NEEDS TO BE HOME. 539 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:36,543 SHE PUT HER CARETAKER IN A COMA 540 00:19:36,576 --> 00:19:38,645 AND NOW SHE BEGS MERCY BECAUSE SHE HAS NO CARETAKER. 541 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:40,713 YOU BOTH OVERSHOT THE MARK, COUNSELORS. 542 00:19:40,747 --> 00:19:42,215 BAIL IS SET AT 200,000. 543 00:19:42,249 --> 00:19:43,283 [bangs gavel] 544 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:44,617 NEXT UP. 545 00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:46,519 YOU KNOW 200 GRAND'S OUT OF THEIR REACH. 546 00:19:46,553 --> 00:19:48,388 YEAH? THEN LOWER YOUR RETAINER. 547 00:19:48,421 --> 00:19:50,523 YOU HAVE NO EYEBALL WITNESS, 548 00:19:50,557 --> 00:19:51,691 A MOTIVE YOU CAN'T PROVE, 549 00:19:51,724 --> 00:19:53,726 AND A LINK BETWEEN THE ALLEGED ACT 550 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,762 AND THE VICTIM'S COMA THAT'S MORE SCIENCE FICTION 551 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:57,364 THAN MEDICAL FACT. 552 00:19:57,397 --> 00:19:58,365 WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? 553 00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:00,467 ASSAULT TWO, SUSPENDED SENTENCE. 554 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,369 ASSAULT ONE, SHE DOES FIVE YEARS. 555 00:20:02,402 --> 00:20:03,736 THE WHOLE IDEA OF A PLEA 556 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:05,372 IS TO KEEP MRS. TALBOT WITH HER DAUGHTER. 557 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:08,541 OUR IDEA IS TO GIVE AMELIA LAZARO JUSTICE. 558 00:20:08,575 --> 00:20:09,976 YOUR CLIENT KNEW ABOUT THE AFFAIR 559 00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:11,678 AND SHE TRIED TO DROWN THE OTHER WOMAN. 560 00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:13,480 NOW SHE HAS TO ANSWER FOR THAT. 561 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:16,816 OUR FIRST PRETRIAL DISCOVERY REQUEST. 562 00:20:16,849 --> 00:20:20,320 APPLICATION FOR ALL EVIDENCE THE POLICE SEIZE FROM THE POOL. 563 00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:22,489 SEE YA. 564 00:20:22,522 --> 00:20:25,525 FROM A CRANE COLLAPSE TO A JEALOUS WIFE. 565 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:26,893 COPS JUST FOLLOWED THE FACTS. 566 00:20:26,926 --> 00:20:27,994 THIS IS WHERE THEY LED US. 567 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:29,629 TO A CRIME WITH NO WITNESSES 568 00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:30,897 AND NO FORENSIC EVIDENCE. 569 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:32,799 NOT QUITE. 570 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,367 THE DEFENSE ASKED US TO PRODUCE A FLOAT POLE 571 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:35,502 FROM THE POOL. 572 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:36,636 I HAD THE POLICE CHECK IT 573 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:39,506 AND THEY FOUND SANDRA'S PRINTS ON ONE END OF THE POLE 574 00:20:39,539 --> 00:20:40,640 AND AMELIA'S PARTIALS ON THE OTHER. 575 00:20:40,673 --> 00:20:41,874 THE LAWYER'S GONNA ARGUE 576 00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:43,710 SANDRA USED THE POLE TO FISH AMELIA 577 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,312 OUT OF THE WATER AFTER PUSHING HER IN. 578 00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:46,513 IT'S MITIGATION. 579 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:47,547 IT'S WORSE THAN THAT. 580 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,748 THEY'LL ARGUE RENUNCIATION. 581 00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:50,783 SANDRA TALBOT HAD A CHANGE OF HEART 582 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:51,984 AFTER TRYING TO DROWN AMELIA. 583 00:20:52,018 --> 00:20:54,787 SHE COULD GET AWAY SCOTT FREE. 584 00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:56,356 RENUNCIATION'S NO DEFENSE 585 00:20:56,389 --> 00:20:58,758 IF IT'S MOTIVATED BY A FEAR OF GETTING CAUGHT. 586 00:20:58,791 --> 00:21:00,693 AMELIA DIDN'T DROWN RIGHT AWAY. 587 00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:02,995 SANDRA WAS WORRIED SOMEBODY WOULD WALK IN, 588 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:04,731 SO SHE FISHED HER OUT. 589 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,399 GOOD LUCK PROVING THAT. 590 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:09,436 GARY TALBOT IS A KEY WITNESS IN OUR CRANE CASE. 591 00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:11,738 TRY NOT TO MUDDY THAT UP. 592 00:21:14,541 --> 00:21:17,043 WE NEED TO RETRACE SANDRA AND AMELIA'S STEPS 593 00:21:17,076 --> 00:21:18,645 AFTER THEY LEFT THE REC CENTER. 594 00:21:18,678 --> 00:21:20,847 FIND ANYONE THEY TALKED TO. 595 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,715 I ALREADY TOLD THE POLICE WHAT I KNOW. 596 00:21:22,749 --> 00:21:25,918 WE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO SAW AMELIA THAT DAY. 597 00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:28,621 A SUBWAY EMPLOYEE FROM THE 96TH STREET STATION 598 00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:30,390 SAID THAT SHE WAS HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING. 599 00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:33,560 LIKE I TOLD THE POLICE, SHE WAS SICK. 600 00:21:33,593 --> 00:21:35,362 THE POLICE ALSO SAID YOU TOLD HER 601 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:36,829 TO GO SEE A DOCTOR. 602 00:21:36,863 --> 00:21:39,999 YES, THAT'S WHAT SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE. 603 00:21:40,032 --> 00:21:41,901 THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, MISS ESCOBEDO. 604 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:43,636 WHY DIDN'T SHE? 605 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:45,638 I DON'T KNOW. 606 00:21:45,672 --> 00:21:47,674 SHE WAS...CONFUSED. 607 00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:50,710 SO YOU NOTICED THAT SHE WAS IN TROUBLE AND OF COURSE 608 00:21:50,743 --> 00:21:52,912 OFFERED TO CALL 9-1-1 FOR HER, DIDN'T YOU? 609 00:21:52,945 --> 00:21:55,748 SHE DIDN'T WANT NO HELP. 610 00:21:55,782 --> 00:21:57,484 YOU SAID SHE WAS CONFUSED. 611 00:21:57,517 --> 00:21:58,518 WHY WOULD YOU LISTEN TO HER? 612 00:21:58,551 --> 00:22:01,721 SHE SAY HER BOSS TELL HER DON'T GO TO THE DOCTOR. 613 00:22:01,754 --> 00:22:04,957 SHE SAY HER BOSS TELL HER LA MIGRA, LA MIGRA. 614 00:22:04,991 --> 00:22:07,894 SO I LISTEN TO HER. 615 00:22:07,927 --> 00:22:10,763 MAYBE I WAS WRONG. 616 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,003 SANDRA PULLED HER OUT OF THE POOL. 617 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:18,638 THAT'S RENUNCIATION. 618 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,473 PENAL CODE SECTION 40-10. 619 00:22:20,507 --> 00:22:22,809 RENUNCIATION MUST BE COMPLETE. 620 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:24,944 SIMPLY PUT, MRS. TALBOT, 621 00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:26,913 YOUR LAWYER CAN'T ARGUE RENUNCIATION 622 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:29,682 IF YOU TALKED AMELIA OUT OF SEEING A DOCTOR. 623 00:22:29,716 --> 00:22:31,851 I'M HEARTBROKEN ABOUT AMELIA. 624 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:33,586 IF I REALLY THOUGHT THAT SHE NEEDED A DOCTOR, 625 00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:34,454 I WOULD'VE-- 626 00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:36,155 LOOK, SANDRA CAN'T GO TO PRISON. 627 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:39,025 PLEASE. 628 00:22:39,058 --> 00:22:41,394 WHAT IF, UM, 629 00:22:41,428 --> 00:22:43,996 WHAT IF MY CLIENT WAS COVERING FOR SOMEONE? 630 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:45,798 I'M LISTENING. 631 00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:49,068 THEIR DAUGHTER'S ON ANTI-SPASM PILLS. 632 00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:50,703 BUT SHE DIDN'T GET HER MEDS THAT MORNING. 633 00:22:50,737 --> 00:22:51,804 SHE SPASMED 634 00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:53,806 AND KICKED AMELIA INTO THE POOL. 635 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,841 (Cutter) AN ACCIDENT? 636 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:57,009 THEN WHY HIDE IT? 637 00:22:57,043 --> 00:22:58,811 THE TALBOTS RECEIVE THOUSANDS IN CITY AID 638 00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:00,413 FOR LACEY'S CARE. 639 00:23:00,447 --> 00:23:02,482 IF THEY'RE NEGLIGENT, THAT AID COULD BE REVOKED. 640 00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:03,750 THEY'D HAVE TO INSTITUTIONALIZE-- 641 00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:06,753 STOP IT RIGHT NOW. 642 00:23:06,786 --> 00:23:08,721 LACEY'S BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH. 643 00:23:08,755 --> 00:23:10,122 I WON'T VICTIMIZE HER TO HELP MYSELF. 644 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:11,157 I CAN'T. 645 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:12,759 THE TRUTH RIGHT NOW 646 00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:15,394 OR SHE TAKES HER CHANCES WITH A JURY. 647 00:23:19,666 --> 00:23:22,635 AMELIA AND I ARGUED. 648 00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:23,736 ABOUT GARY. 649 00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:25,472 I GOT ANGRY. 650 00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:27,774 I PUSHED HER, BUT I SWEAR I WASN'T TRYING TO KILL HER. 651 00:23:27,807 --> 00:23:29,842 I JUST-- 652 00:23:29,876 --> 00:23:32,745 IF I COULD TAKE IT ALL BACK, I WOULD. 653 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:38,751 MY DAUGHTER'S A SICK LITTLE GIRL 654 00:23:38,785 --> 00:23:41,654 WHO NEEDS HER MOTHER. 655 00:23:41,688 --> 00:23:43,690 DON'T TAKE ME AWAY FROM HER, PLEASE. 656 00:23:43,723 --> 00:23:45,725 I'M BEGGING YOU. 657 00:23:52,699 --> 00:23:55,735 ASSAULT TWO, SUSPENDED SENTENCE. 658 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:58,538 PROVIDED A PORTION OF GARY'S SALARY GOES 659 00:23:58,571 --> 00:24:01,073 TO AMELIA'S LONG TERM CARE. 660 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:04,477 AND MRS. TALBOT WILL ALLOCUTE. 661 00:24:04,511 --> 00:24:05,645 I THINK WE CAN, UM, 662 00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:07,814 ALL LIVE WITH THAT. 663 00:24:14,153 --> 00:24:16,523 SUSPENDED SENTENCE. 664 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:17,890 PUSHOVER. 665 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:24,096 (Sandra) I CONFRONTED AMELIA ABOUT GARY. 666 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:25,732 WE BEGAN TO ARGUE. 667 00:24:25,765 --> 00:24:28,735 AMELIA ADMITTED THAT SHE AND GARY HAD BEEN TOGETHER. 668 00:24:28,768 --> 00:24:30,803 I LOST MY TEMPER. 669 00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:32,739 I PUSHED HER INTO THE POOL. 670 00:24:32,772 --> 00:24:34,574 KNOWING SHE COULDN'T SWIM? YES. 671 00:24:34,607 --> 00:24:36,843 SHE WAS STRUGGLING IN THE WATER. 672 00:24:36,876 --> 00:24:38,545 I GOT SCARED. I HELPED HER OUT. 673 00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:39,812 (Bradley) AND WHAT DID YOU DO? 674 00:24:39,846 --> 00:24:41,848 I TOLD HER TO LEAVE MY FAMILY, 675 00:24:41,881 --> 00:24:43,616 MY HUSBAND ALONE. 676 00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:45,852 ALL RIGHT. 677 00:24:45,885 --> 00:24:51,524 MR. CUTTER, ARE THE PEOPLE SATISFIED? 678 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,665 MR. CUTTER? 679 00:24:58,698 --> 00:25:01,801 JUDGE, PERMISSION TO ENQUIRE. 680 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:10,577 MRS. TALBOT, HOW DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE AFFAIR? 681 00:25:12,579 --> 00:25:14,246 AMELIA-- 682 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,749 AMELIA WAS GIVING LACEY A BATH. 683 00:25:16,783 --> 00:25:18,785 SHE LEFT HER PHONE IN THE KITCHEN. 684 00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:20,219 IT STARTED TO RING. 685 00:25:20,252 --> 00:25:21,754 I SAW IT WAS GARY. 686 00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:23,756 HE LEFT HER A MESSAGE. 687 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:25,257 I'D GIVEN HER THE PHONE. 688 00:25:25,291 --> 00:25:27,694 I PROGRAMMED IT, SO I KNEW THE CODE FOR THE VOICEMAILS. 689 00:25:27,727 --> 00:25:30,296 SO I... 690 00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:31,664 I FOUND THE MESSAGE. 691 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:32,765 HE WAS MEETING HER AFTER WORK. 692 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,101 SO YOU CONFRONTED HER THAT DAY. 693 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:37,236 NO. 694 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:38,104 THEN THE NEXT DAY. 695 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:40,740 YOU CONFRONTED AMELIA THE NEXT DAY. 696 00:25:40,773 --> 00:25:41,540 YES. 697 00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:45,612 WHEN YOU TOOK LACEY TO THE POOL. 698 00:25:45,645 --> 00:25:47,580 YES. 699 00:25:47,614 --> 00:25:48,748 (Goodwin) YOUR HONOR, IS THERE A POINT TO THIS EXAMINATION? 700 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:49,982 YOUR HONOR, AT THIS POINT 701 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,951 THE PEOPLE ARE WITHDRAWING THEIR PLEA OFFER 702 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,252 AND STAND READY FOR TRIAL. 703 00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:55,221 BUT WE HAVE A DEAL. 704 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:57,957 HAD A DEAL, MR. GOODWIN. 705 00:25:57,990 --> 00:26:00,259 IT IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S PREROGATIVE. 706 00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:02,895 GIVE IT A DATE, FREDDIE. 707 00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:06,365 [bangs gavel] 708 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:08,701 PUSHOVER, MY ASS. 709 00:26:10,703 --> 00:26:12,605 PULLING THE PLUG IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ALLOCUTION, 710 00:26:12,639 --> 00:26:14,206 I HOPE YOU DIDN'T SNATCH DEFEAT 711 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,875 FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY. 712 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,844 WE CHECKED AMELIA'S CELL PHONE RECORDS. 713 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:19,712 THERE WAS NO CALL FROM GARY TALBOT 714 00:26:19,746 --> 00:26:21,748 THAT DAY OR ANY OTHER DAY. 715 00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:24,083 BUT THE NIGHT BEFORE AMELIA DROWNED, 716 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,753 SHE MADE A CALL TO A DR. LUCAS ZIERING. 717 00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:28,187 HE'S AN ENDOCRINOLOGIST. 718 00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:29,922 IT WAS A ONE-MINUTE CALL. 719 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,357 IT WAS AFTER HOURS. 720 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:32,692 SHE LEFT A MESSAGE. AND? 721 00:26:32,725 --> 00:26:34,226 AND THE NEXT MORNING, 722 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:36,963 SANDRA TALBOT GOT A CALL FROM DR. ZIERING. 723 00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:38,698 SHE WAS ON THE PHONE FOR 20 MINUTES. 724 00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:39,866 AN HOUR LATER, 725 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,701 SHE SHOVED AMELIA INTO THE POOL. 726 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:45,004 AND YOU THINK SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CALL UPSET SANDRA. 727 00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:47,740 I JUST DON'T THINK SHE TRIED TO KILL HER OVER AN AFFAIR. 728 00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:49,008 [knocking] 729 00:26:49,041 --> 00:26:50,242 I TURNED UP A POLICE REPORT 730 00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:51,711 FILED BY DR. ZIERING ABOUT ANONYMOUS THREATS 731 00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:53,813 LEFT ON HIS OFFICE VOICEMAIL. 732 00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:55,347 IT'S DATED AT TWO WEEKS 733 00:26:55,381 --> 00:26:57,149 BEFORE AMELIA WAS PUSHED INTO THE POOL. 734 00:26:57,183 --> 00:26:59,318 MAYBE THAT'S WHAT AMELIA'S CALL TO ZIERING WAS ABOUT. 735 00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:01,320 SHE WAS LEAVING ANOTHER THREAT. 736 00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:02,822 THREAT ABOUT WHAT? 737 00:27:02,855 --> 00:27:05,291 BIRD IN THE HAND, MIKE. 738 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:07,293 NEXT TIME A DEFENDANT WANTS TO PLEAD GUILTY, 739 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:09,896 LET 'EM. 740 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,433 [Amelia on speaker] THIS IS FOR DR. ZIERING. 741 00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:16,135 WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO LACEY TALBOT 742 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:17,904 IS AGAINST GOD'S PLAN. 743 00:27:17,937 --> 00:27:19,371 YOU CANNOT CHANGE HER NATURE. 744 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:22,208 IT'S EVIL AND YOU WILL BURN IN HELL IF YOU DO THIS. 745 00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:25,111 LACEY'S MOM RECOGNIZED THEIR CARETAKER'S VOICE. 746 00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,914 I--I TOLD SANDRA THAT IF THESE CALLS PERSISTED, 747 00:27:27,947 --> 00:27:29,348 I COULD NO LONGER TREAT THEIR DAUGHTER. 748 00:27:29,381 --> 00:27:32,051 AND SHE SAID SHE WOULD SPEAK TO THE CARETAKER. 749 00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:35,387 WHAT DOES SHE MEAN, "CHANGING LACEY'S NATURE"? 750 00:27:35,421 --> 00:27:36,388 HOW WERE YOU TREATING HER? 751 00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:40,292 THE TALBOTS APPROACHED ME ABOUT RESTRICTING 752 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,428 THEIR DAUGHTER'S PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT. 753 00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:44,463 MEANING WHAT? 754 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:47,800 ESTROGEN THERAPY. 755 00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:51,804 TO PERMANENTLY STUNT THE CHILD'S GROWTH. 756 00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:53,740 AND THE REMOVAL OF HER BREAST BUDS, 757 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:57,877 WOMB, AND OVARIES SO THAT HER SEXUAL ORGANS NEVER MATURE. 758 00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:00,379 SURGERY AND DRUGS 759 00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:01,848 TO KEEP HER A CHILD? 760 00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:04,216 IS THIS TREATMENT APPROVED? 761 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:07,854 IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL. 762 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,088 IN FACT, I'M NOT THE FIRST DOCTOR 763 00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:10,857 THAT THE TALBOTS CAME TO. 764 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:13,760 THEY'RE DESPERATELY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR DAUGHTER'S WELFARE. 765 00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:14,827 I TOLD THEM 766 00:28:14,861 --> 00:28:15,895 THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DISCREET 767 00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:18,931 OR WE'RE GONNA GET THESE-- THESE KOOKS BUTTING IN. 768 00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:21,734 WHAT HAPPENED AFTER YOU GOT ANOTHER CALL? 769 00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:23,235 I TOLD MRS. TALBOT THAT I COULD NO LONGER 770 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:24,871 PROVIDE LACEY'S TREATMENT. 771 00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:26,172 HOW DID SHE REACT? 772 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:27,740 SHE BEGGED ME TO RECONSIDER. 773 00:28:27,774 --> 00:28:28,908 BUT I--I COULDN'T. 774 00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:30,777 I JUST COULDN'T RISK THE PUBLICITY. 775 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,012 SHE BECAME FURIOUS, STARTED SCREAMING AT ME, 776 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:34,513 AND I HAD TO HANG UP ON HER. 777 00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:35,815 IT--IT-- 778 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:38,417 I'D HOPED THAT SHE WOULD UNDERSTAND. 779 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:39,418 DON'T WORRY, DOCTOR. 780 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:40,820 I THINK SHE FOUND SOMEONE ELSE 781 00:28:40,853 --> 00:28:42,855 TO VENT HER ANGER ON. 782 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:49,128 I GOT NOTHING TO SAY TO YOU. 783 00:28:49,161 --> 00:28:51,530 WELL, RIGHT NOW WE NEED YOU TO LISTEN. 784 00:28:51,563 --> 00:28:52,531 WE TOLD YOU-- 785 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:53,866 THERE WAS NO AFFAIR. 786 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:54,867 IT WAS ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER. 787 00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:57,503 AMELIA INTERFERED. 788 00:28:57,536 --> 00:28:58,270 SHE THREATENED YOUR DOCTOR. 789 00:28:58,304 --> 00:28:59,972 I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 790 00:29:00,006 --> 00:29:01,874 WELL, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TALK TO US 791 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:04,076 IF YOUR WIFE EXPECTS ANY LENIENCY. 792 00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:05,845 WHY, SO YOU CAN SCARE OFF THE NEXT DOCTOR 793 00:29:05,878 --> 00:29:07,780 WHO'D EVEN CONSIDER HELPING US? 794 00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,153 MY LITTLE GIRL WILL NEVER WALK. 795 00:29:14,186 --> 00:29:15,554 OR TALK. 796 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:19,091 AND IF SHE GROWS UP IN THIS CONDITION... 797 00:29:26,532 --> 00:29:29,568 I KNOW SHE'S AN ANGEL. 798 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:30,803 RIGHT? 799 00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:36,142 SHE'S OUR LITTLE ANGEL. 800 00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:42,081 WE CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE. 801 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:45,885 THE STRAIN IT MUST PUT ON YOUR MARRIAGE. 802 00:29:45,918 --> 00:29:49,455 WE ALSO KNOW YOU FILED FOR DIVORCE LAST YEAR. 803 00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:50,522 (Gary) YEAH. 804 00:29:50,556 --> 00:29:52,491 I LOOKED DOWN THAT ROAD AND IT WAS ALL BLACK. 805 00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:54,994 EVERYTHING WOULD GET WORSE, THE OLDER SHE GOT. 806 00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:58,164 AND I COULDN'T HANDLE IT. 807 00:29:58,197 --> 00:29:59,531 WE WORKED THROUGH IT. 808 00:29:59,565 --> 00:30:01,133 IS THAT WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH THE IDEA 809 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:03,135 FOR THIS TREATMENT? 810 00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:04,837 TO KEEP HER A CHILD? 811 00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:06,839 I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE NOW. 812 00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:08,908 MR. TALBOT, I WILL-- 813 00:30:08,941 --> 00:30:09,876 WE DO NOT NEED YOUR CONDEMNATION 814 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:11,277 OR ANYBODY ELSE'S. 815 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:12,411 THIS IS OUR PRIVATE BUSINESS, 816 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:15,915 SO YOU JUST BUTT OUT. 817 00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:17,449 WE TRACED THE PAYMENT THE TALBOTS MADE 818 00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,185 RIGHT BEFORE SANDRA WAS ARRESTED 819 00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:22,154 TO A DR. CONNOR DUNNING AT EMMANUEL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. 820 00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:24,090 I THINK SHE LINED UP ANOTHER DOCTOR 821 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,524 TO DO THIS OPERATION ON HER DAUGHTER. 822 00:30:25,557 --> 00:30:26,893 THAT EXPLAINS WHY MRS. TALBOT 823 00:30:26,926 --> 00:30:30,096 WON'T SPEAK THE TRUTH IN OPEN COURT. 824 00:30:30,129 --> 00:30:32,464 THEIR FIRST DOCTOR GOT SKITTISH. 825 00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:34,867 SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SCARE OFF THIS ONE. 826 00:30:34,901 --> 00:30:37,403 I MOVING TO STOP THE PROCEDURE. 827 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:38,871 ON WHAT BASIS? 828 00:30:38,905 --> 00:30:41,107 IT'S AN ASSAULT ON A HANDICAPPED CHILD. 829 00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:42,942 (Rubirosa) I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD GO THAT FAR. 830 00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:45,344 (Cutter) WHAT WOULD YOU CALL DISFIGURING THIS POOR KID? 831 00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:47,079 TEARING OUT HER UTERUS. 832 00:30:47,113 --> 00:30:50,516 FORCING HORMONES INTO HER VEINS TO STUNT HER GROWTH. 833 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:52,151 I MEAN, LOOK, I'VE READ UP ON THIS. 834 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,585 I'VE TALKED TO DOCTORS. 835 00:30:53,619 --> 00:30:55,587 NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ARE. 836 00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:58,357 ASSUMING LACEY EVEN LIVES TO FIND OUT 837 00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:02,061 BECAUSE THE HORMONES MIGHT CAUSE A BLOOD CLOT THAT KILLS HER. 838 00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:05,397 THE PROCEDURE'S NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY. 839 00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:07,466 IT'S ALL FOR THE PARENTS' CONVENIENCE 840 00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:08,968 TO SAVE THEIR MARRIAGE. 841 00:31:09,001 --> 00:31:10,402 WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO 842 00:31:10,436 --> 00:31:12,972 WITH OUR PROSECUTION OF SANDRA TALBOT? 843 00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:14,606 ONE ASSAULT TO COVER ANOTHER, 844 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,375 THIS ONE ON A CHILD. 845 00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:18,044 IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. 846 00:31:18,077 --> 00:31:19,045 IT'S A STRETCH. 847 00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:20,913 SHE WAS READY TO PLEAD. 848 00:31:20,947 --> 00:31:21,914 (Cutter) ON FALSE GROUNDS. 849 00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:23,315 YOU'RE SPLITTING HAIRS. 850 00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:24,650 WHAT--SO WE DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION 851 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,318 TO PURSUE THE TRUTH? 852 00:31:26,352 --> 00:31:28,287 LACEY TALBOT'S TREATMENT ISN'T OUR CONCERN. 853 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,023 WE HAVE A VICTIM. AMELIA LAZARO. 854 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:33,525 IF MRS. TALBOT DOESN'T WANT TO COME CLEAN, 855 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:34,526 EMPANEL A JURY. 856 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,397 BUT THIS OFFICE FOCUSES ON ESTABLISHED CRIMES. 857 00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:48,507 WE'RE AMENDING THE COMPLAINT TO ADD A CHARGE 858 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:51,077 OF CONSPIRACY TO ASSAULT LACEY TALBOT. 859 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:53,145 UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR GARY TALBOT. 860 00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:55,614 OVERT ACT: PAYMENT FOR THE SURGERY-- 861 00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:58,284 MIKE, WERE YOU NOT HERE WHEN JACK SAID 862 00:31:58,317 --> 00:31:59,518 FOCUS ON ESTABLISHED CRIMES? 863 00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:00,987 BUT IF THE JUDGE BUYS MY ARGUMENT 864 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,654 THAT THE OPERATION IS A CRIME, 865 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:05,591 THEN JACK WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT, WILL HE? 866 00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:07,393 YOU JUST WANT TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THIS PROCEDURE 867 00:32:07,426 --> 00:32:08,527 ON THEIR DAUGHTER. 868 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,263 I DON'T HAVE KIDS AND I AM NOT IN THE TALBOTS' SHOES, 869 00:32:11,297 --> 00:32:12,999 BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED. 870 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,102 STICK AROUND. 871 00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:17,569 MR. CUTTER TANKED A PLEA 872 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:20,206 AND NOW HE REALIZES HIS CASE IS A LOSER, 873 00:32:20,239 --> 00:32:21,607 SO HE TRUMPS UP A CHARGE THAT MRS. TALBOT 874 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,309 IS TRYING TO ASSAULT HER CHILD. 875 00:32:23,342 --> 00:32:24,610 IT'S A LEGITIMATE CHARGE 876 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:26,478 BASED ON NEWLY DISCOVERED FACTS. 877 00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:29,181 (Goodwin) THESE FACTS DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE 878 00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:30,449 TO ESTABLISHING AN ASSAULT. 879 00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:32,584 THEY ESTABLISH THAT THERE'S A PLAN 880 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:34,987 TO CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY TO A CHILD. 881 00:32:35,021 --> 00:32:36,688 MR. CUTTER, I AGREE THE PROCEDURE 882 00:32:36,722 --> 00:32:38,357 IS ETHICALLY QUESTIONABLE. 883 00:32:38,390 --> 00:32:40,026 THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S A CRIME. 884 00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:43,629 BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO CHANGE MY MIND. 885 00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,102 (Peller) THE PROCEDURE IS UNTESTED. 886 00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:52,504 ITS BENEFITS ARE HIGHLY SPECULATIVE. 887 00:32:52,538 --> 00:32:54,773 THE SURGERY WILL BE PAINFUL FOR LACEY 888 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:56,342 AND THE RECOVERY LONG. 889 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:58,477 AND COMPLICATIONS FROM THE ESTROGEN THERAPY 890 00:32:58,510 --> 00:32:59,678 CAN'T BE DISCOUNTED. 891 00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:03,615 DR. PELLER, ARE THERE OTHER REASONS WHY 892 00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:05,617 YOUR HOSPITAL'S ETHICS COMMITTEE REFUSED 893 00:33:05,651 --> 00:33:07,486 TO SANCTION THIS PROCEDURE? 894 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,321 IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. 895 00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,557 KEEPING LACEY SMALL MIGHT MAKE HER EASIER 896 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:14,593 TO CARE FOR, BUT THEN WHY NOT AMPUTATE HER LEGS 897 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:16,495 TO MAKE HER MORE PORTABLE? 898 00:33:16,528 --> 00:33:18,697 REMOVE HER LARYNX TO STOP HER FROM CRYING. 899 00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:19,565 SO YOU'RE SAYING 900 00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:22,334 THAT THEY CONVENIENCE OF THE PARENTS 901 00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:25,071 SHOULDN'T BE A RELEVANT FACTOR. 902 00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:26,405 IN MY OPINION, 903 00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:30,142 IT IS CLEARLY OUTWEIGHED BY THE DIGNITY ANYONE, 904 00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:32,611 ESPECIALLY A DISABLED CHILD, MUST BE ACCORDED. 905 00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:37,616 SHE NEEDS LOVE, NOT SURGERY. 906 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:39,618 BEFORE I AGREED TO PERFORM THE PROCEDURE, 907 00:33:39,651 --> 00:33:41,487 I SPENT HOURS WITH THE TALBOTS 908 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,654 WATCHING THEM INTERACT WITH LACEY. 909 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:44,656 THEIR COMMITMENT TO HER QUALITY OF LIFE 910 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,192 AND THEIR LOVE FOR HER IS OBVIOUS. 911 00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:51,363 BUT REMOVAL OF HER BREASTS, UTERUS, AND OVARIES 912 00:33:51,397 --> 00:33:53,832 SEEMS UNWARRANTED, DOESN'T IT? 913 00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:55,167 ACTUALLY, NO. 914 00:33:55,201 --> 00:33:57,469 LACEY'S NEVER GOING TO GIVE BIRTH, 915 00:33:57,503 --> 00:33:58,604 BREAST FEED, OR HAVE SEX. 916 00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:01,307 SO THOSE ORGANS ARE UNNECESSARY. 917 00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:04,076 AND REMOVING THEM ELIMINATES THE POTENTIAL 918 00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:06,645 FOR CANCER OR EMOTIONAL CONFUSION. 919 00:34:08,614 --> 00:34:11,083 DR. DUNNING, WOULD YOU SAY 920 00:34:11,117 --> 00:34:14,486 THAT MEDICINE'S ROLE IS TO CURE SICKNESS? 921 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,255 WELL, THAT'S ONE FORMULATION. 922 00:34:16,288 --> 00:34:18,490 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROCEDURE DOES, RIGHT? 923 00:34:18,524 --> 00:34:22,161 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH LACEY TALBOT'S SEX ORGANS 924 00:34:22,194 --> 00:34:24,396 REQUIRING THEIR REMOVAL. 925 00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:25,764 NOTHING INHERENTLY DANGEROUS 926 00:34:25,797 --> 00:34:28,434 ABOUT HER GROWING INTO AN ADULT. 927 00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:29,501 THE PROCEDURE DOESN'T ADDRESS SICKNESS 928 00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:30,702 BY THAT NARROW DEFINITION, NO. 929 00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:31,737 BUT-- THANK YOU. 930 00:34:36,242 --> 00:34:37,776 (Sandra) MONEY'S TIGHT. 931 00:34:37,809 --> 00:34:41,547 PART-TIME HELP FOR LACEY IS ALL WE CAN AFFORD. 932 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,515 SINCE WE CAN'T PAY THE GOING RATES, 933 00:34:43,549 --> 00:34:45,684 THE PEOPLE WE USE AREN'T PROPERLY TRAINED. 934 00:34:45,717 --> 00:34:48,520 HOW MUCH DOES YOUR DAUGHTER'S CARE AND TREATMENT 935 00:34:48,554 --> 00:34:49,621 COST YOU A MONTH? 936 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,290 NEARLY $6,000. 937 00:34:51,323 --> 00:34:53,659 THE CITY CHIPS IN ABOUT 2,000 A YEAR. 938 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,627 WE'RE OUT OF POCKET ON THE REST. 939 00:34:55,661 --> 00:34:57,563 BECAUSE MEDICAID WON'T PAY UNLESS 940 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,331 WE PUT HER IN AN INSTITUTION. 941 00:34:59,365 --> 00:35:01,500 (Goodwin) IS AT AN OPTION YOU'VE CONSIDERED? 942 00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,235 ABSOLUTELY NOT. 943 00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:04,436 WE'RE A FAMILY AND FAMILIES 944 00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:06,538 STAY TOGETHER NO MATTER WHAT. 945 00:35:06,572 --> 00:35:10,676 AND I KNOW WITHOUT THE ROUND THE CLOCK CARE WE GIVE HER, 946 00:35:10,709 --> 00:35:11,543 SHE CAN'T SURVIVE. 947 00:35:11,577 --> 00:35:16,315 WOULD YOU EVER INTENTIONALLY HARM LACEY? 948 00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:19,551 NO. 949 00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:23,322 I'D DIE FOR MY DAUGHTER. 950 00:35:35,334 --> 00:35:37,269 IF YOU HAD A MILLION DOLLARS 951 00:35:37,303 --> 00:35:39,705 TO PAY FOR CARETAKERS, 952 00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:42,608 WOULD YOU STILL CONSIDER THIS PROCEDURE FOR LACEY? 953 00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:44,876 YES, IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE HER LIFE. 954 00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:46,812 AND YOURS TOO, RIGHT? 955 00:35:46,845 --> 00:35:48,647 IT'LL REDUCE YOUR WORKLOAD. 956 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,683 MAKE HER EASIER TO LIFT, TO FEED. 957 00:35:51,717 --> 00:35:54,620 IT'S ABOUT KEEPING OUR ANGEL WHERE SHE BELONGS, 958 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,655 AT HOME AND IN THE ARMS OF THE FAMILY THAT LOVES HER. 959 00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:59,191 BY KEEPING HER SMALL. 960 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:01,760 BUT IF SHE MATURES INTO A GROWN WOMAN, 961 00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:04,630 THEN YOU'LL HAVE OTHER INCONVENIENT THINGS 962 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:05,964 TO WORRY ABOUT. 963 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:06,965 HER MENSTRUATION, 964 00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,600 HER SEXUALITY. 965 00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:09,635 NO, IT'S NOT ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 966 00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:10,636 SHE WON'T BE SO CUTE 967 00:36:10,669 --> 00:36:12,471 AND CUDDLY ANYMORE. 968 00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:14,806 IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. 969 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,509 WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CARE FOR HER AT HOME. 970 00:36:17,543 --> 00:36:19,945 WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BRING HER WITH US. 971 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:21,313 TO INCLUDE HER-- 972 00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:22,448 YOU'D NEED MORE CARETAKERS. 973 00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:24,416 SPECIAL EQUIPMENT. 974 00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:25,417 A BIGGER HOME. 975 00:36:25,451 --> 00:36:26,985 YES. 976 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:28,454 IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE. 977 00:36:28,487 --> 00:36:29,588 YES, WE COULDN'T DO IT. 978 00:36:29,621 --> 00:36:30,589 BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANT LACEY 979 00:36:30,622 --> 00:36:32,458 TO GROW UP EVEN IF YOU HAD 980 00:36:32,491 --> 00:36:34,326 ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD. 981 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,562 YOU'D STILL PUT HER THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE. 982 00:36:36,595 --> 00:36:38,897 THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 983 00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:44,536 YOU WOULDN'T FEEL 984 00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:46,505 THE SAME WAY ABOUT HER 985 00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:50,509 IF SHE GREW UP, WOULD YOU? 986 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:51,977 IT'S EASIER TO LOVE HER NOW... 987 00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:55,347 WHEN SHE'S SMALL, LIKE A DOLL. 988 00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:56,348 ISN'T IT? 989 00:36:56,382 --> 00:36:59,418 I... 990 00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:01,019 I LOVE HER. 991 00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:02,921 I DO LOVE HER. 992 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,691 MY ANGEL. 993 00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:09,495 (judge) ALL RIGHT, MRS. TALBOT, 994 00:37:09,528 --> 00:37:10,396 YOU'RE EXCUSED. 995 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:15,367 I HAVE NO DOUBT THE TALBOTS ARE MOTIVATED 996 00:37:15,401 --> 00:37:17,603 BY LOVE AND CONCERN FOR LACEY. 997 00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:20,672 ON THE OTHER HAND, MR. CUTTER HAS DEMONSTRATED 998 00:37:20,706 --> 00:37:22,641 THAT THIS INQUIRY CANNOT BEGIN AND END 999 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:25,010 WITH THE PARENTS' INTENTIONS. 1000 00:37:25,043 --> 00:37:28,280 ON BALANCE, THE COURT IS NOT SATISFIED 1001 00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:31,417 THE ELEMENTS OF ASSAULT ON THE CHILD HAVE BEEN MADE OUT. 1002 00:37:31,450 --> 00:37:35,053 THE MOTION TO AMEND THE COMPLAINT IS DENIED. 1003 00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:38,056 I HOPE THAT NOW THE PARTIES 1004 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:41,560 CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT ON A PLEA SETTLEMENT. 1005 00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:54,473 GOODWIN'S AGREED TO A MEETING. 1006 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,607 I GOTTA TELL YOU, MIKE, 1007 00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:56,775 I THINK THE JUDGE MADE THE RIGHT CALL. 1008 00:37:56,808 --> 00:38:00,846 EVER SINCE SHE PUSHED AMELIA INTO THAT POOL, 1009 00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:04,616 SANDRA TALBOT'S DONE NOTHING BUT LIE AND OBFUSCATE. 1010 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:06,718 AND NOW HER REWARD'S A GREEN LIGHT 1011 00:38:06,752 --> 00:38:08,654 TO MAIM HER CHILD. 1012 00:38:08,687 --> 00:38:10,856 IT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS ANYMORE. 1013 00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:14,560 BESIDES, THERE ARE NO CLEAN HANDS HERE. 1014 00:38:19,431 --> 00:38:21,667 SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHERE JUSTICE IS, 1015 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,536 BUT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. 1016 00:38:26,738 --> 00:38:29,675 YOU JUST HAVE TO TRY AND SAVE WHO YOU CAN SAVE. 1017 00:38:37,949 --> 00:38:40,586 ASSAULT TWO, SUSPENDED SENTENCE, FIVE YEARS' PROBATION. 1018 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:44,690 SAME TERMS FOR AMELIA LAZARO'S CARE. 1019 00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:48,560 AND THERE'S MORE. 1020 00:38:48,594 --> 00:38:51,062 I WANT HER AGREEMENT THAT SHE WON'T CONSENT 1021 00:38:51,096 --> 00:38:52,598 TO THE PROCEDURE WITH HER DAUGHTER. 1022 00:38:52,631 --> 00:38:53,932 LIKE HELL WE WILL. 1023 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:54,933 HE CAN'T DO THAT, CAN HE? 1024 00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:55,734 NO, HE CAN'T. 1025 00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:57,369 MR. CUTTER, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 1026 00:38:57,403 --> 00:38:58,604 TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, 1027 00:38:58,637 --> 00:39:00,439 MRS. TALBOT, OR WE GO TO TRIAL 1028 00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:01,473 AND YOU GO TO PRISON. 1029 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,381 HONEY... 1030 00:39:11,417 --> 00:39:15,687 I CAN'T BE AWAY FROM HER. 1031 00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:19,958 YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT THIS IS? 1032 00:39:19,991 --> 00:39:21,893 I'M GUESSING YOU ALREADY KNOW. 1033 00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:23,729 NO OPERATION, NO HORMONE THERAPY. 1034 00:39:23,762 --> 00:39:26,465 YOU'VE ATTACHED AN ILLEGAL STIPULATION TO A PLEA. 1035 00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:28,434 YOU'VE VIOLATED MRS. TALBOT'S RIGHTS. 1036 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:29,968 THE JUDGE WILL REPUDIATE THIS DOCUMENT. 1037 00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:31,737 I CAN SELL HIM ON IT. 1038 00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:33,104 I'M REPUDIATING IT! 1039 00:39:33,138 --> 00:39:34,640 YOU'VE GONE COMPLETELY OFF THE RESERVATION HERE! 1040 00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,608 JUST IMITATING THE MASTER. 1041 00:39:36,642 --> 00:39:37,743 PEOPLE V. WILLICH. 1042 00:39:37,776 --> 00:39:39,478 THE MUNCHAUSEN-BY-PROXY CASE. 1043 00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:41,680 DID YOU FORGET YOU MADE ENFORCED STERILIZATION 1044 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:43,415 A CONDITION OF A PLEA 1045 00:39:43,449 --> 00:39:44,483 FOR A WOMAN WHO KILLED HER BABIES? 1046 00:39:44,516 --> 00:39:46,151 I REMEMBER! 1047 00:39:46,184 --> 00:39:48,687 I ALSO REMEMBER THE JUDGE REAMING ME OUT FOR IT. 1048 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,489 HE WAS RIGHT! 1049 00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:51,757 YOU FOLLOWED YOUR INSTINCTS. I'M FOLLOWING MINE. 1050 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:53,158 IT'S WHAT WE BOTH GET PAID FOR. 1051 00:39:53,191 --> 00:39:55,627 YOU GET PAID TO FOLLOW ORDERS. 1052 00:39:55,661 --> 00:39:57,896 THE COURT DIDN'T BUY THE ARGUMENT 1053 00:39:57,929 --> 00:39:59,965 THE TALBOTS ARE ASSAULTING THEIR DAUGHTER. 1054 00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:01,900 IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE, MIKE. 1055 00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:03,869 I HAVE AN EXECUTED PLEA AGREEMENT. 1056 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:06,438 I'M MOVING FORWARD. 1057 00:40:06,472 --> 00:40:07,739 YOU WANT TO TAKE THE CASE AWAY, 1058 00:40:07,773 --> 00:40:09,074 THAT'S YOUR CALL. 1059 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:23,955 I HAVE REAL RESERVATIONS 1060 00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:26,458 ABOUT THIS STIPULATION, MR. CUTTER. 1061 00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:28,193 PARENTS' CONTROL AND CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN 1062 00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:30,762 IS A RIGHT PROTECTED UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT. 1063 00:40:30,796 --> 00:40:32,798 THAT RIGHT ISN'T ABSOLUTE. 1064 00:40:32,831 --> 00:40:35,567 IT GIVES WAY TO A COMPELLING STATE INTEREST. 1065 00:40:35,601 --> 00:40:36,935 LIKE PROTECTING A MINOR. 1066 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:40,005 I BELIEVE I HAVE ALREADY RULED ON THAT, MR. CUTTER. 1067 00:40:40,038 --> 00:40:42,073 YOU RULED THAT THE OPERATION ISN'T A CRIME. 1068 00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:43,742 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE STATE STILL CAN'T 1069 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:46,712 TAKE AN INTEREST IN STOPPING IT. 1070 00:40:46,745 --> 00:40:48,179 MR. MCCOY. 1071 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,681 PERMISSION TO APPROACH. 1072 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,756 I'VE JUST BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE SUBSTANCE 1073 00:40:57,789 --> 00:41:00,058 OF THE PLEA AGREEMENT IN THIS MATTER. 1074 00:41:00,091 --> 00:41:01,126 THEN YOU KNOW IT ATTEMPTS 1075 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,862 TO IMPOSE A QUESTIONABLE STIPULATION. 1076 00:41:03,895 --> 00:41:05,897 MY OFFICE DOESN'T SANCTION THAT STIPULATION 1077 00:41:05,931 --> 00:41:07,733 AND WILL REMOVE IT. 1078 00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:09,701 I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT 1079 00:41:09,735 --> 00:41:13,939 AND MRS. TALBOT FOR THIS ERROR IN JUDGMENT. 1080 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:15,941 (Bradley) WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE STIPULATION, 1081 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:18,043 THE COURT HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS PLEA AGREEMENT. 1082 00:41:18,076 --> 00:41:21,780 WE MAY PROCEED WITH THE ALLOCUTION. 1083 00:41:56,047 --> 00:41:58,784 PEOPLE V. WILLICH, I OVERSTEPPED BACK THEN. 1084 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:08,794 ONE DAY YOU'LL THANK ME FOR YANKING YOUR LEASH, MIKE. 1085 00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:13,799 SOMETIMES I WISH SOMEONE HAD BEEN THERE TO YANK MINE. 1086 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:16,902 Captioning by CaptionMax www.captionmax.com