(male announcer) IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,
THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE
YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS--
THE POLICE WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME
AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS.
THESE ARE THEIR STORIES.
[banging on door] (man) LET ME IN!
HEY!
LET ME IN! [baby crying]
YOU KNOW YOU WANT ME.
I'M A--I'M-- I'M A KILLER.
I GOT A GUN, AND I'M READY TO GO!
[banging on door continues]
SHH!
SHUT UP, BABY!
[glass breaking]
(Royce) WITNESSES HEARD BREAKING GLASS
COMING FROM THE RECRUITING CENTER,
THEN A MINUTE LATER AN EXPLOSION.
ARSON SQUAD FOUND WHAT WAS LEFT OF A CAN OF BUTANE
WITH AN ATTACHED BLASTING CAP.
IMPROVISED INCENDIARY DEVICE.
THEY BROKE THE WINDOW AND TOSSED IT IN.
THEY PROBABLY USED THAT BRICK THERE.
WERE THERE ANY VICTIMS? UH, FEMALE, MID-20s.
WITNESSES SAW HER UNCONSCIOUS
ON THE FLOOR, BROKE DOWN THE DOORS, AND DRAGGED HER OUT.
E.M.S. THINKS SHE'S GONNA MAKE IT.
(Bernard) SOMEBODY DESERVES A MEDAL.
WAS SHE A SOLDIER? COULD BE.
SHE HAD NO I.D.
SHE WASN'T IN UNIFORM, JUST CIVVIES.
ANTI-WAR TERRORISTS.
OUR FIRST AMENDMENT IN ACTION.
THIS IS SERGEANT RODNEY JAMES. HE RUNS THE RECRUITING CENTER.
MY C.O. GOT ME OUT OF BED. WHAT HAPPENED?
WE'RE--WE'RE STILL SORTING THAT OUT.
WHERE'S CARLY? IS SHE OKAY?
(Bernard) WHO'S CARLY? SHE'S MY BUDDY'S WIFE.
SHE WAS STAYING HERE OVERNIGHT.
SHE'S AT THE HOSPITAL. SHE'S GONNA BE OKAY.
UH, SHE HAD HER BABY WITH HER--MIKEY.
WHERE'S HE? DID YOU SEE HIM?
OH, GOD.
(Rodney) CARLY CAME IN FROM PENNSYLVANIA ON THE BUS YESTERDAY.
SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR A HOTEL,
SO I LET HER STAY HERE, JUST A NIGHT.
THERE'S A COT.
HER AND THE BABY COULD REST
BEFORE GETTING BACK ON THE BUS THIS MORNING.
AND WHY DID SHE COME TO THE CITY?
HER HUSBAND, MIKE, IS M.I.A. IN AFGHANISTAN.
SHE THINKS THE ARMY'S NOT DOING ENOUGH TO FIND HIM.
AND SHE THINKS HE'S STILL ALIVE. IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS.
SHE WENT TO TALK TO A GUY
FROM MIKE'S UNIT AT THE V.A. IN QUEENS.
SHE JUST WANTS ANSWERS.
DID ANYBODY KNOW THAT YOU WERE LETTING HER SLEEP HERE?
YOU KIDDING? I'M GONNA GET BUSTED
DOWN TO PRIVATE FOR THIS.
ANY IDEA WHO MIGHT BE BEHIND THIS?
WE GET THREATS, WE REPORT THEM TO THE POLICE.
WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.
ANYTHING HAPPEN AROUND HERE YESTERDAY?
YESTERDAY WE HAD MEGAPHONE BOB.
HE SHOWS UP ONCE A WEEK, READS OFF THE NAMES
OF CASUALTIES IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
WE GOT AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH HIM--
HOW MANY FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE HE CAN STAND.
YESTERDAY HE GOT INSIDE THE CREASE.
I FLAGGED DOWN A PATROL CAR TO CLEAR HIM OUT.
MY OFFICERS CALLED FROM THE HOSPITAL.
WE GOT THE OKAY TO TALK TO THE GIRL.
(Lupo) THANKS. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
(Carly) OH, GOD, MY BABY.
THE SOCIAL WORKER JUST TOLD ME WHAT--
IT'S NOT RIGHT.
GOD TOOK MY BABY.
(Bernard) WE'RE VERY SORRY,
MRS. DI GRAVIA.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED?
I WAS IN THE BACK ROOM...
WITH MIKEY...
TRYING TO GET HIM TO SLEEP.
PEOPLE--DRUNKS HAD BEEN BANGING ON THE DOOR
AND YELLING ALL NIGHT.
I HEARD GLASS BREAK,
AND I LEFT MIKEY ON THE COT TO GO AND SEE,
JUST FOR A MINUTE.
THEN THE AIR JUST EXPLODED INTO FIRE,
AND I TRIED TO FIND MIKEY, BUT WITH THE SMOKE...
IT'S ALL RIGHT.
THESE DRUNKS--DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DESCRIBE THEM FOR US?
NO.
IT WAS TOO DARK.
IS THERE ANYBODY YOU'D LIKE US TO CONTACT?
YOUR FAMILY IN PENNSYLVANIA?
I JUST WANT TO TALK TO MY HUSBAND.
HE'S IN AFGHANISTAN.
YOU ASK THE ARMY.
NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO FIND HIM.
(Bernard) A FIREBOMB
IN A RECRUITMENT CENTER--
WE NEED TO START ROUNDING UP SOME OLD '60s RADICALS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE TALK I DON'T WANT TO SEE
END UP ON THE 6:00 NEWS.
WE'VE GOT A WAR WIDOW AND A DEAD BABY HERE.
THE MEDIA'S GONNA BE ALL OVER THIS.
NOW, WHERE ARE WE ON THIS MEGAPHONE BOB?
TWO OFFICERS WHO MOVED HIM AWAY FROM THE CENTER YESTERDAY
DIDN'T ARREST HIM.
THEY TOOK HIS NAME AND HIS ADDRESS,
BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE BAD.
ALL RIGHT, CHECK WITH THE LOCAL PRECINCT.
SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAD BUSINESS WITH HIM
AND GET CORMACK TO DO A NEWS SEARCH.
MAYBE SOMEONE DID A STORY ON BOB'S WEEKLY PROTESTS.
ALL RIGHT.
YES, WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
THE COMMENTS SECTION OF THE COVERAGE OF THE BOMBING
IN TODAY'S PAPER.
YOU CHECK WHAT READERS HAVE POSTED, SOMETIMES YOU FIND
SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMETHING AND WANTS TO TALK.
AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST FIND SOMEBODY WHO LIKES TO TALK.
YEAH.
SO LISTEN TO THIS.
"I THINK WE WERE DOWN THE STREET
"FROM WHERE THIS HAPPENED. MY HUSBAND WAS VIDEOING ME
"NEXT TO THE MUSEUM OF SEX WHEN WE HEARD A WINDOW BREAK,
AND WE GOT SCARED AND RAN BACK TO THE HOTEL."
WELL, IF THAT'S FOR REAL, WE NEED TO SEE THAT VIDEO.
(woman) I KNEW WE WERE IN DANGER WHEN WE HEARD THE GLASS BREAK.
I TOLD MY HUSBAND WE HAD TO GET OUT OF THERE.
YOU TWO ARE FILMMAKERS? NO, WE'RE TEACHERS IN PHILADELPHIA.
WE'RE FILMMAKERS, TOO.
OH...
HERE WE GO.
(woman) TELL ME, WHAT IS THE COMPULSION TO CAGE WILDNESS?
THE RECRUITMENT CENTER IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
...WHEN WE ENCASE IT BEHIND GLASS?
NOW HERE IT COMES.
[glass breaking]
LET'S GET OUT OF HERE!
THAT'S ALL WE GOT. HEY, HEY, LET ME SEE THAT CAMERA.
IF I WANTED TO PLAY IT IN SLO-MO...?
(man) THIS IS SO COOL.
(Bernard) IN THE BIKER'S HAND,
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
A RED BRICK.
(Bernard) YEAH.
WE GOT A GUY ON A BIKE IN A PANTHERS FOOTBALL SHIRT
CARRYING A BRICK.
WELL, GET CORMACK WORKING ON THAT, TOO.
IN THE MEANTIME, THE CHIEF OF DEES
SENT OVER TWO LADIES TO HELP US WITH OUR CASE.
THEY HAVE INFORMATION? NOT YET.
THEY'RE HERE TO VOLUNTEER.
SINCE WHEN DO WE TAKE VOLUNTEERS?
IT WASN'T AN OPTION.
(woman) WE ARE THE FOUNDERS
OF OPERATION MOLLIE--
A CITIZEN ARMY WHO WORK WITH THE POLICE
TO SOLVE DIFFICULT CASES.
AND WE HAVE DECIDED TO TAKE ON THIS CASE.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE MANY LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION
FROM THE DETECTIVES WE'VE ASSISTED.
(woman) MOLLIE WAS A MURDERED TEENAGER IN FLORIDA.
HER BODY WENT UNIDENTIFIED FOR FIVE YEARS
UNTIL WE INTERVENED.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "INTERVENED"?
WE TRACED HER TENNIS SHOE
FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO THE POINT OF SALE.
AND THEN WE ACCESSED MISSING-CHILD RECORDS
FROM THAT LOCATION.
WE BROUGHT MOLLIE'S BODY HOME TO HER FAMILY.
YOU DID ALL THAT WITH THE INTERNET.
IT SAYS HERE YOU'RE WEB SLEUTHS.
WE USED THE INTERNET INITIALLY.
OPERATION MOLLIE
CAN PUT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO WORK ON THIS.
(Van Buren) YES, WELL...
WE'RE RELEASING A PHOTO TODAY--
A PERSON OF INTEREST IN THE CASE.
AND WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO HELP WITH ID'ing HIM
FROM HIS SWEATSHIRT AND HIS BICYCLE.
WE'VE DONE STUFF LIKE THAT BEFORE.
WELL, ANYTHING YOU FIND,
YOU CALL ME.
AND, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING IS HANDS-OFF.
AM I CLEAR?
OF COURSE.
[clears throat]
VIGILANTE CRIME-SOLVING?
THAT DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT TO ME.
WELL, THEY'RE GONNA HELP US WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT.
WE MAY AS WELL KEEP THEM CLOSE.
HEY, TIMES DID A PIECE ON YOUR MEGAPHONE GUY THREE MONTHS AGO.
HIS NAME IS BOB TAVISH,
AND HE'S GOT A FEW UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY BEEFS BACK IN SEATTLE.
BICOASTAL PROTESTER.
NO, MORE LIKE A BICOASTAL FIREBUG.
OUR WEST COAST COLLEAGUES
SAY THAT TAVISH WAS ON A SHORT LIST OF SUSPECTS
IN AN ARSON AT A CONDO PROJECT.
NYPD. BOB TAVISH?
YOU KNOW I AM.
ALL RIGHT, COME BACK HERE. WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU!
I KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE.
I DON'T NEED A BOMB TO MAKE MY POINT.
THE NAMES OF THE DEAD SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
NOW, I'M LATE FOR WORK.
EXCUSE ME, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?
I'M LOOKING TO BUY A BIKE KIND OF LIKE YOURS.
AND BY THE WAY, SEATTLE P.D.--
THEY SEND THEIR REGARDS AS WELL.
YOU KNOW THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ON THAT CONDO FIRE?
YEAH, I GUESS YOUR POINT WAS
YOU HAVE TO BURN DOWN THE ENVIRONMENT TO SAVE IT.
LOOK, I PUT SEATTLE BEHIND ME, OKAY?
I'M NOT LOOKING TO GO BACK.
I DIDN'T BOMB THE RECRUITMENT CENTER.
BUT THIS GUY CAME UP TO ME YESTERDAY.
HIS SISTER WAS KILLED IN IRAQ.
HE SAID SHE ENLISTED AT THE CENTER.
HE WAS WORKED UP.
HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD HER NAME ON MY LIST.
WHAT WAS HER NAME?
SHERMAN...
LINDA SHERMAN.
TURNS OUT I DIDN'T HAVE HER NAME ON MY LIST.
(Derek) WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?
GET AWAY FROM THERE!
(woman) WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEARCH YOUR GARBAGE.
BREAK IT UP. HEY, HEY! HEY!
(Lupo) HEY, BREAK IT UP.
RELAX.
HE'S GOT BRICKS BACK THERE!
TAKE YOUR PEOPLE TO THE SIDEWALK, PLEASE.
GIVE ME THAT.
(Bernard) YOU DEREK SHERMAN?
YEAH! ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AROUND BACK AND TALK.
MY PARTNER WILL HANDLE THIS OUT HERE.
DON'T WORRY. LET'S GO.
THAT GARBAGE IS ABANDONED PROPERTY.
ACTUALLY, NOT UNTIL HE PUTS IT ON THE SIDEWALK.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE, ANYWAY? WE IDENTIFIED HIS SWEATSHIRT,
"PANTHERS FOOTBALL."
IT HAD AN UNCOMMON FONT.
OUR CLOTHING IDENTIFICATION
TRACED IT TO A HIGH SCHOOL IN MARYLAND.
(woman) FROM THERE, IT WAS EASY TO TRACK THE GRADUATE
TO NEW YORK CITY.
WELL, I-I'M IMPRESSED, LADIES,
BUT MY LIEUTENANT WAS CLEAR WITH YOU--
YOU FIND ANYTHING, YOU CALL US.
YOUR INVESTIGATION WAS MOVING TOO SLOW.
A PRECIOUS BABY IS DEAD.
YEAH, AND NOW THESE BRICKS YOU FOUND ARE TAINTED AS EVIDENCE.
YOU WANT JUSTICE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACK OFF.
NOW, PLEASE, GO BACK TO YOUR CARS.
(Derek) THEY'RE CRAZY!
I DIDN'T FIREBOMB NOTHING!
HEY, I JUST REPORT THE NEWS, OKAY?
WERE YOU AT THE RECRUITMENT CENTER
THREE DAYS AGO?
YEAH.
I DO DELIVERIES FOR A DELI. I WAS RIDING BY.
I SAW THIS GUY READING OFF NAMES.
MY KID SISTER GOT KILLED SIX WEEKS AGO.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE HAD HER NAME.
I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, MR. SHERMAN.
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH,
I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE
WHAT YOUR SISTER DID FOR THIS COUNTRY.
YEAH, YEAH, MY KID SISTER DIED FOR NOTHING.
BUT I DIDN'T BOMB THAT PLACE.
I FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT I STILL HAVE TO ASK YOU
WHERE YOU WERE THREE NIGHTS AGO AROUND 11:00.
[laughs]
I WAS AT MCMULLEN'S TAVERN.
ASK ANYONE. I'M A REGULAR.
MCMULLEN'S?
DOWN IN THE FLATIRON DISTRICT?
YEAH.
NOW, HOW ABOUT YOU DO SOMETHING
AND KEEP THESE CRAZIES AWAY FROM ME?
(Rodney) MR. SHERMAN CAME IN DRUNK A FEW TIMES LAST MONTH
TO TALK ABOUT HIS SISTER.
(Bernard) WHAT DID HE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT HER?
SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN IRAQ,
BUT SHE GOT STOP-LOSSED.
I GAVE HIM THE NAMES OF SUPPORT GROUPS FOR SERVICE FAMILIES.
THAT'S ABOUT IT. SORRY.
(Bernard) WE SAW THAT YOU WENT TO SEE CARLY YESTERDAY.
DID SHE TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE EXPLOSION?
SHE DOESN'T REMEMBER MUCH.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE SO MUCH MISERY
COULD FALL ON A COUPLE OF COAL CRACKERS.
COAL CRACKERS?
THAT'S WHAT MIKE CALLED HIM AND CARLY.
WHY? 'CAUSE THEY'RE FROM COAL COUNTRY?
THAT'S WHY MIKE ENLISTED.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW HIS FAMILY INTO THE MINES.
WHAT ABOUT CARLY'S FAMILY? THEY WORK IN THE MINES, TOO?
HER DAD DOES.
YOU KNOW WHAT HE DOES EXACTLY?
MIKE SAID HE WAS A SHOT-FIRER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EXCUSE ME A MINUTE. YEAH, SURE.
A SHOT-FIRER IS THE GUY
WHO SETS OFF THE EXPLOSIVES IN THE COAL MINES.
WOULDN'T BE HARD FOR SOMEONE CLOSE TO HIM
TO GET A HOLD OF HIS BLASTING CAPS. MM-HMM.
WHAT WAS THAT CARLY SAID?
"NOW THE ARMY WILL HAVE TO FIND HER HUSBAND."
OH, LUPES, LET'S HOPE YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT THIS.
THE FIRE STARTED HERE,
THEN MOVED TO THE BACK WHERE THE BABY WAS SLEEPING.
(Lupo) THESE BLASTING CAPS-- ARE THEY EASY TO GET?
NO, IT'S A BLACK CAT. IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE INDUSTRIALLY.
GOT TO HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE LICENSES.
THEY USED IN COAL-MINING? YEAH, IT'S VERY COMMON.
WHAT ABOUT THE BOMB ITSELF?
HOW HARD WAS IT TO ASSEMBLE?
WELL, YOU JUST TAKE A BLASTING CAP,
AND YOU TAPE IT TO A STORE-BOUGHT CAN OF BUTANE,
LIGHT THE FUSE ON THE CAP...
YOU'RE OFF TO THE RACES.
HMM, OKAY. THANKS, DETECTIVE.
CARLY HAD ACCESS TO THESE BLASTING CAPS.
SHE HAD A BEEF WITH THE ARMY.
SHE MIGHT'VE THOUGHT THIS WAS A WAY TO BRING ATTENTION TO IT.
SO SHE SET OFF A BOMB WITH HER BABY
NO MORE THAN FIVE FEET AWAY?
I'M NOT SAYING SHE HAD A WELL-THOUGHT-OUT PLAN.
WELL, ACCORDING TO YOU,
SHE THOUGHT ABOUT IT ENOUGH
TO BRING BLASTING CAPS UP FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
(Van Buren) WELL, TALK TO ME
ABOUT OUR OTHER SUSPECTS.
MEGAPHONE BOB WAS LEADING THE CHEERING SECTION
AT THE RANGERS GAME AT THE TIME OF THE BOMBING.
HE EVEN MADE IT ONTO THE JUMBOTRON.
AND AS FOR SHERMAN,
WITNESSES SAW HIM AT MCMULLEN'S,
BUT THE TIME FRAME IS PRETTY LOOSE.
(Van Buren) DOES HIS BIKE MATCH
THE ONE IN THE VIDEO?
(Lupo) WE CAN'T MAKE OUT THE MAKE OF THE ONE IN THE VIDEO.
(Bernard) BUT BOTH OF THEM
ARE THE SAME COLOR. YES, THAT'S RIGHT,
METALLIC GRAY-- IT'S REAL ONE-OF-A-KIND.
OKAY, LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE BIKES.
THERE'S THE SWEATSHIRT FROM SHERMAN'S HIGH SCHOOL
AND THE BRICKS NEAR HIS TOOLSHED
ARE A MATCH TO THE BRICK
THAT WAS FOUND IN THE RECRUITMENT CENTER.
YEAH, AND SHERMAN DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO BLASTING CAPS,
AND CARLY DOES. WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM WITH THE GIRL?
MY PROBLEM IS YOU RULING HER OUT.
TIME-OUT. TIME-OUT.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING HERE.
NUMBER ONE, LET'S FIND OUT IF SHERMAN MIGHT'VE HAD ACCESS
TO EXPLOSIVES.
AND NUMBER TWO, HAVE THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE POLICE
CHECK TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BLASTING CAPS
THEY USE AT THE MINE WHERE CARLY'S FATHER WORKS.
AND THREE?
MIKE'S UNIT WAS AMBUSHED IN THE MOUNTAINS OF AFGHANISTAN.
IT WAS SNOWING.
HIS PATROL CAME BACK WITHOUT HIM.
THE BUDDY AT THE VETERAN'S HOSPITAL IN QUEENS--
WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?
HE SAID THAT NO ONE SAW MIKE GET SHOT.
IT'S MORE THAN WHAT THE ARMY TOLD ME.
(Van Buren) YOU'RE ANGRY AT THEM.
(Carly) THEY DON'T RETURN MY CALLS.
EVERYTHING WITH THEM IS NATIONAL SECURITY.
THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU.
NO, MA'AM.
DID YOU EVER THINK
TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD FORCE THE ARMY
TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOU?
IT WOULD SERVE THEM RIGHT.
YEAH, IT WOULD.
I BET THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION NOW.
THEY'VE BEEN HERE TWICE TO SEE ME,
AND I GOT A CALL FROM A MAJOR IN WASHINGTON.
HE PROMISED ME THEY'RE GOING TO FIND MIKE.
YOU FORCED THEM TO FIND YOUR HUSBAND.
IT'S WHAT ANY LOVING WIFE WOULD DO.
NO ONE'S GOING TO BLAME YOU, CARLY.
BLAME ME FOR WHAT?
COULD YOU GET ME THAT STUFF?
HMM.
SO YOU'VE BEEN GETTING MAIL. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LEAVING IT DOWNSTAIRS.
WHEN DID YOU GET THIS?
THE PEOPLE FROM OPERATION MOLLIE DROPPED IT OFF.
THEY'RE HELPING SOLVE THE CRIME.
IT'S SO WEIRD SEEING MY PICTURE ON A T-SHIRT.
YOU KNOW, CARLY, WE'RE GONNA NEED YOU TO STAY A FEW DAYS
AFTER YOU'RE RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL.
WHERE WOULD I STAY?
WE'LL PUT YOU UP IN A HOTEL.
REALLY?
MM-HMM. WOW.
I WONDER IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA RECOGNIZE ME.
(Lupo) SHE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION HER BABY.
SHE'S MORE INTERESTED IN HER OWN PUBLICITY.
WELL, IT COULD BE THAT SHE'S JUST NOT READY
TO DEAL WITH THE LOSS OF HER BABY.
LOOK, CHECK WITH THIS SOLDIER AT THE V.A.
SEE WHAT MOOD SHE WAS IN WHEN SHE TALKED TO HIM.
HAJI HAD US PINNED FOR A GOOD HOUR.
SNOW WAS FALLING PRETTY HARD.
I LOST SIGHT OF MIKE.
WE HAD TO GET OUR WOUNDED OUT OF THERE.
WE COULDN'T RAISE MIKE ON HIS TELECOM, SO...
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU TOLD CARLY. YEAH, I WAS PRETTY BLUNT WITH HER.
I DIDN'T EXPECT HER TO SHOW UP HERE,
WITH THE BABY, YOU KNOW?
A HAPPY LITTLE GUY HE WAS.
HOW'D SHE TAKE THE NEWS? OH, NOT GOOD.
I TOLD HER,
AS LONG AS HE'S M.I.A., SHE CAN COLLECT HIS SALARY.
SO SHE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST EMBRACE THE SUCK
AND TAKE THE BUCKS, YOU KNOW?
"EMBRACE THE SUCK"? WELL, MAKE HER PEACE WITH THE SITUATION.
THE ARMY OWES HER.
SHE STARTED YELLING
THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT THE MONEY.
[laughing] THAT GIRL'S GOT A TEMPER,
WHICH WAS JUST WHAT MIKE ALWAYS SAID, TOO.
[cell phone ringing] HMM, EXCUSE ME.
HEY. BERNARD.
DEREK, SLOW DOWN.
WHERE?
OKAY, DON'T DO ANYTHING.
WE'RE ON OUR WAY.
OPERATION MOLLIE STRIKES AGAIN.
I SHOW UP TO DO THE LUNCH DELIVERIES.
THIS GUY'S WAITING FOR ME.
HE RAN INTO ME, KNOCKED ME OFF MY BIKE.
I MEAN, LOOK AT MY FACE.
HE KNOCK YOU OFF ON PURPOSE? YES.
HE'S ON OF THOSE WACKOS THAT WAS AT MY HOUSE.
HE TOOK MY BACKPACK,
AND THEN THIS WOMAN HE HAD WITH HIM CALLED ME A BABY-KILLER.
(Lupo) WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
THEY'RE IN THAT VAN WITH MY BACKPACK.
THEY TRIED TO DRIVE AWAY, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER DELIVERY GUYS
TOOK THE KEYS OUT OF THE IGNITION.
STAY RIGHT HERE.
(Bernard) HEY, LET ME HAVE THOSE KEYS, GUYS.
ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS GO STAND ACROSS THE STREET.
STEP OUT OF THE VEHICLE,
BOTH OF YOU!
WE'RE SO GLAD YOU SHOWED UP, OFFICERS. OH, YEAH?
WELL, WE WERE GONNA DRIVE TO YOUR PRECINCT,
BUT THESE THUGS STOLE OUR CAR KEYS.
YOU TOOK A BACKPACK FROM MR. SHERMAN.
WE TOOK IT AS EVIDENCE.
(Lupo) ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT?
WE WERE BRING IT TO YOU.
GIVE ME MY BACKPACK, YOU PSYCHO! HEY.
(Lupo) HEY, HEY, HEY, WHAT DID HE SAY? WHAT DID WE SAY? RELAX.
MA'AM, GIVE ME THE BACKPACK.
NOT IF YOU'RE GIVING IT BACK TO HIM.
IT'S EVIDENCE.
MA'AM, GIVE ME THE BACKPACK.
(Derek) GREAT. NOW CAN I HAVE IT?
NO, THIS IS STOLEN PROPERTY. IT'S GOING INTO EVIDENCE.
AND YOU TWO ARE UNDER ARREST FOR ASSAULT AND ROBBERY.
PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE VEHICLE. WHAT?
PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE VEHICLE.
(Van Buren) THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
THAT MAN COULD'VE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED.
WE'RE SORRY.
YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS HAVE TO STOP NOW.
I'LL POST A RECOMMENDATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
NO, NO, THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION.
THIS IS AN ORDER.
THE NEXT TIME ANY OF YOU INTERFERE
WITH THIS INVESTIGATION,
YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.
WE'LL STAY WITHIN THE LAW,
BUT YOU CAN'T PREVENT US FROM DOING OUR WORK.
YOU DON'T WANT TO TRY ME.
[knock at door]
THE LAB FOUND TRACES OF BUTANE IN SHERMAN'S BACKPACK.
WE GOT HIM.
EXCEPT THE BACKPACK WAS IN THE CUSTODY
OF OUR AMATEUR CRIME-BUSTERS BEFORE WE GOT IT.
A GOOD DEFENSE ATTORNEY WILL SAY THEY PLANTED THE BUTANE.
WE HAVE GOOD LAWYERS, TOO. PICK SHERMAN UP.
(Bernard) DEREK! HOLD UP.
BETTER BE QUICK, GUYS. I GOT DELIVERIES TO MAKE.
WELL, WE GOT TO MAKE A DELIVERY, TOO.
YOU-- TO CENTRAL BOOKING.
WHAT?
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR MURDER AND ARSON.
(man) DOCKET NUMBER 93250.
PEOPLE V. DEREK SHERMAN, ARSON AND FIRST-DEGREE MURDER.
HE PLEADS NOT GUILTY, YOUR HONOR. (judge) PEOPLE ON BAIL?
WHERE'S COUNSEL FOR THE PEOPLE?
HERE, YOUR HONOR.
MR. SHERMAN IS CHARGED WITH A TERRORISTIC ACT
AND THE MURDER OF A NINE-MONTH-OLD BABY.
PEOPLE REQUEST REMAND.
MY CLIENT'S GOT A JOB, TIES TO THE COMMUNITY,
NOT TO MENTION THE PEOPLE'S SO-CALLED EVIDENCE
WAS GATHERED BY A MOB OF VIGILANTES.
[all groaning] SOME OF WHOM, YOU CAN HEAR, HAVE JOINED US TODAY.
(man) YO, DEREK.
(judge) STOP THAT MAN
AND CONFISCATE HIS PHONE. YOU SEE MY POINT, YOUR HONOR?
I DO.
NOW HERE'S MINE-- YOUR CLIENT'S REMANDED.
[gavel bangs]
[light cheering]
THESE PEOPLE PUT TREKKIES TO SHAME.
MOTION TO SUPPRESS THE BACKPACK
AND THE BRICKS FROM MY CLIENT'S TOOLSHED.
WOW, YOU HAVE HIGH HOPES.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY
ABOUT BEING KNOWN BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP.
YOU'RE THE ONE WITH THE BABY-KILLER AS A CLIENT.
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER, MR. WILSON.
(McCoy) I CAN'T BELIEVE THE POLICE ALLOWED THESE PEOPLE
TO COME NEAR THIS CASE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THESE PEOPLE DID IDENTIFY THE BIKER IN THE VIDEO
BEFORE THE POLICE DID,
AND THEY FOUND TWO DAMNING PIECES OF EVIDENCE.
NEITHER OF WHICH WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE.
FAT LOT OF GOOD IT DOES US.
DO WHAT YOU CAN ABOUT THE MOTION TO SUPPRESS,
BUT IF ANY EVIDENCE FALLS OUT, MAKE A DEAL.
WHAT, A PLEA BARGAIN FOR KILLING A BABY?
HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THAT?
BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT NO REASONABLE PERSON
COULD'VE ANTICIPATED THAT A WOMAN AND HER BABY
HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEND THE NIGHT
IN A RECRUITMENT CENTER.
NICE FIG LEAF.
IT COVERS ENOUGH.
SUPPRESSION IS A REMEDY THAT PUNISHES POLICE MISCONDUCT.
THE POLICE DID
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG HERE.
THE BRICKS WERE STOLEN
BY CIVILIANS.
WHO HAD BEEN, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES,
DEPUTIZED TO INVESTIGATE THIS CASE.
(Cutter) THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
THEY HELPED IDENTIFY A SUSPECT IN A PHOTO
THAT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
I THINK I JUST HEARD A HAIR SPLIT, MR. CUTTER.
TALK TO ME ABOUT THE BACKPACK.
AGAIN, IT WAS STOLEN FROM MY CLIENT
BY THE SAME DEPUTIZED VIGILANTES AFTER THEY MUGGED HIM.
NO, WE HAVE AFFIDAVITS FROM THE DETECTIVES
THAT THESE CIVILIANS WERE WARNED TO STAY AWAY FROM MR. SHERMAN.
THEY WERE NOT WORKING AS AGENTS OF THE POLICE.
EVEN GRANTING THAT, THE PEOPLE CAN'T ESTABLISH
A CHAIN OF CUSTODY FOR THE BACKPACK.
THE BUTANE MAY HAVE BEEN PLANTED BY THE VIGILANTES.
THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO ARGUE TO A JURY, MR. WILSON.
THE BACKPACK IS COMING IN. THE BRICKS ARE OUT.
SEE YOU IN COURT.
FIG LEAF, ANYONE?
(Derek) 12 YEARS?!
BUT I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING! DEREK LET ME TALK.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BLASTING CAPS OR BUTANE.
I DON'T EVEN OWN A LIGHTER.
IT'S 12 YEARS NOW OR 50 IF WE GO TO TRIAL.
50 YEARS FOR THROWING A BRICK THROUGH A WINDOW?
'CAUSE THAT IS ALL I DID.
THAT'S RIGHT.
I GOT DRUNK, AND I GOT ANGRY ABOUT MY SISTER,
AND I'M NOT PLEADING TO ANYTHING BUT THAT.
MR. CUTTER, MY CLIENT AND I NEED TO TALK.
THERE'S NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT.
MR. SHERMAN, YOU GOT A TASTE AT YOUR ARRAIGNMENT
OF WHAT'S WAITING FOR YOU OUT THERE--
ALL THOSE PEOPLE CALLING YOU A BABY-KILLER.
WHEN WE PUT THAT CHILD'S MOTHER ON THE STAND,
TALKING ABOUT HER LOSS...
DON'T TALK TO ME...
ABOUT LOSS.
[crying] YOU PUT ME ON THAT STAND...
I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT MY SISTER...
HOW WE WERE IN A FOSTER HOME, AND I PRACTICALLY RAISED HER.
AND THEN THE ARMY--
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO KEEP HER SAFE.
ALL SHE WAS GONNA DO WAS DRIVE TRUCKS,
AND THEN THEY PUT HER IN A CONVOY
WITH NOTHING BUT HILLBILLY ARMOR TO PROTECT HER.
SCREW THIS!
AND SCREW YOU!
[banging on door] (Derek) C.O.!
ON THE GATE!
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME, ADAM.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD LUCK
WITH MR. MUGABE.
ADAM? ADAM SCHIFF?
HE'S IN AFRICA
WITH JIMMY CARTER
WAITING FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER ZIMBABWE.
HE READ ABOUT MY CANDIDACY ON THE INTERNET OF ALL PLACES
AND JUST CALLED TO OFFER ME HIS ENDORSEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE BEEN GETTING
YOUR "LET'S MAKE A DEAL" ADVICE.
HOW'D THAT WORK OUT? SHERMAN PASSED.
BUT NOT BEFORE ADMITTING HE THREW A BRICK,
AND NOTHING BUT A BRICK, THROUGH THE WINDOW.
A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, RIGHT?
JUST CONVICT SHERMAN.
[knock at door]
(Rubirosa) HEY, LIEUTENANT VAN BUREN JUST HEARD
FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE POLICE.
THE BLASTING CAPS CARLY'S FATHER USES IN THE MINES...
SAME BRAND USED TO MAKE THE FIREBOMB.
DO YOU MIND IF I PUT ON MY MAKEUP WHILE WE TALK? NO.
I MADE A FRIEND, AND SHE'S TAKING ME OUT.
WHO'S THE FRIEND? VICKI.
I MET HER IN THE LOBBY.
DO YOU THINK THIS DRESS IS PRETTY?
OPERATION MOLLIE BOUGHT IT FOR ME.
IT LOOKS FINE.
LISTEN, CARLY,
UM, THE REASON WE'RE HERE--
WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LIE-DETECTOR TEST.
WHY? YOU THINK I LIED?
WELL, YOU'RE GONNA BE TESTIFYING
AT DEREK SHERMAN'S TRIAL,
AND WE WANT TO BE SURE YOU TOLD THE TRUTH, ALL OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN TESTIFY ABOUT.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
(Rubirosa) IS THERE A REASON
YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE A TEST?
MAYBE I JUST DON'T LIKE TESTS.
WELL, IF YOU'RE NERVOUS ABOUT IT,
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT WE CAN'T USE THE RESULTS AS EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE OF WHAT?
YOU'RE ACCUSING ME, AREN'T YOU?
I DID NOT PUT MY BABY IN DANGER.
YOU'VE GOT SOME NERVE ACCUSING ME.
I'LL HAVE LUPO AND BERNARD
HEAD DOWN TO PENNSYLVANIA FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
MY SON MARRIED CARLY RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
HE TRIED COLLEGE, THEN HE ENLISTED.
HE'D HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO STAY OUT OF THE MINES,
NOT THAT WE'RE NOT PROUD OF HIM,
BUT WE'RE STILL HOPING GOD WILL BRING HIM BACK TO US.
(Bernard) DID YOU SEE CARLY
BEFORE SHE LEFT FOR NEW YORK?
SHE LEAVES THE BABY WITH US ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WAS THAT A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
SHE'D MAKE PLANS WITH MY WIFE TO WATCH THE BABY FOR AN HOUR
AND THEN DISAPPEAR FOR HALF THE DAY,
NOT THAT WE MINDED, BUT...
CARLY'S ALL ABOUT CARLY.
IS THAT MIKE? YEAH.
LOOKS LIKE HE'S MISSING
A COUPLE FINGERS ON HIS RIGHT HAND.
YEAH, HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
HIM AND HIS BUDDIES THOUGHT IT'D BE FUNNY
IF THEY BLEW UP AN OLD PORTA-JOHN.
A BOMB BLEW UP IN HIS HAND?
DAMN LUCKY HE DIDN'T GET HISSELF KILLED.
YOU REMEMBER WHAT THEY USED?
BLASTING CAP AND A CAN OF BUTANE.
CAP WENT OFF BEFORE THEY COULD TAPE IT
TO THE CAN.
KIDS.
(Cutter) THE DOTS ARE PRACTICALLY CONNECTING THEMSELVES.
NO DOUBT CARLY KNEW
ABOUT HER HUSBAND'S LITTLE BOMB-MAKING ESCAPADE.
BUT THERE ARE EASIER DOTS TO CONNECT.
DEREK SHERMAN ALREADY ADMITTED TO THROWING THE BRICK
THROUGH THE WINDOW THAT NIGHT. GET ON THE SAME PAGE,
OR WE'LL LOOK LIKE WE'RE PLAYING SPIN THE BOTTLE
WITH OUR SUSPECTS.
OH, GREAT. LOOK WHO'S ON TOMORROW'S FRONT PAGE.
"BOMB MOM GONE WILD?"
(Rubirosa) WELL, CARLY WENT ON A PUB CRAWL WITH A NEW FRIEND.
"IN AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW, CARLY'S GAL PAL VICKI SANDUSKY
"REPORTED THAT CARLY TOLD HER THE RECRUITMENT CENTER
"DESERVED TO BE BURNED DOWN
"BECAUSE THE ARMY TREATS THE FAMILIES
OF ITS SERVICEMEN LIKE DIRT."
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER DOT CONNECTING ITSELF.
TALK TO MISS SANDUSKY, THEN REPORT TO ME.
I'LL DECIDE HOW WE PROCEED.
(Vicki) THE OPERATION MOLLIE MESSAGE BOARD
SAID THAT CARLY WAS STAYING AT THE COSMOPOLITAN HOTEL.
SO I JUST HUNG OUT IN THE LOBBY AND STARTED TALKING TO HER.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU STALKED HER.
I ONLY WANTED TO GET TO KNOW HER.
WHY? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON?
DID YOU LOSE A HUSBAND OR A CHILD?
NO, BUT I READ EVERYTHING ABOUT BABY MIKEY,
AND, UH, SORRY TO BE A BUZZKILL,
BUT I STARTED THINKING YOU ARRESTED THE WRONG PERSON.
SO I-I REALLY WANTED TO TALK TO HER
AND--AND DO SOME PROFILING.
PROFILING?
YOU WORK IN A HAIR SALON.
YOU CAN ASK MY FRIENDS.
I HAVE THIS, LIKE, AMAZING INTUITION ABOUT PEOPLE.
AND YOUR INTUITION TELLS YOU THAT CARLY STARTED THE FIRE.
I MEAN, COME ON, SHE'S A WALKING MEDEA COMPLEX.
MEDEA COMPLEX, REALLY?
YOU THINK SHE KILLED HER BABY ON PURPOSE.
THERE'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T TELL THE NEWSPAPER.
YOU KNOW HOW A GOOD INVESTIGATOR HOLDS SOMETHING BACK?
MM-HMM. BUT NOW YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME.
CARLY SAID SHE NEVER WANTED THE BABY.
IT WAS HER HUSBAND'S IDEA,
TO KEEP HER ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW
WHILE HE WAS AWAY.
SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD FRIENDS IN FLORIDA,
AND NOW THAT SHE WAS FREE,
SHE WAS GONNA MOVE THERE AND GET A JOB ON THE BEACH.
I RECORDED HER ON MY PHONE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT.
(Carly on recording) HE SAID IF I WAS AT HOME
WITH THE BABY, I WOULDN'T BE OUT PARTYING WITH MY FRIENDS.
HE WAS TRYING TO CONTROL ME.
SHE SOUNDS DRUNK. SHE SOUNDS HURT AND LOST.
THAT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING.
WELL, THE--THE RECORDING DOESN'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS OTHER GIRL TOLD HER
TO GET HER TO MAKE THESE STATEMENTS?
SPEAKING OF WHICH, CARLY JUST CHECKED OUT OF HER HOTEL.
NEXT STOP COULD BE FLORIDA.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
ARREST HER. WE'LL RELEASE SHERMAN.
WHOA, SHOULDN'T WE TALK TO JACK FIRST?
HE'S AT A FUNDRAISER ANNOUNCING ADAM SCHIFF'S ENDORSEMENT.
WE SCREW THIS UP FOR HIM,
AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING LEFT TO ENDORSE.
GO AHEAD.
ARE WE GLAD TO SEE YOU. WHAT'S UP?
SO THE LADY WITH THE SUITCASE WAS TRYING TO HAIL A CAB
WHEN THESE PEOPLE IN THE T-SHIRTS DETAINED HER.
ONE OF THEM FLAGGED US DOWN,
SAID THEY WANTED TO MAKE A CITIZEN'S ARREST.
(Lupo) ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE MOVE AWAY FROM HER.
SHE'S FLEEING THE JURISDICTION.
SHE KILLED BABY MIKEY.
STAND BACK, MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO GO HOME.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO COME WITH US.
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, CARLY.
[crowd shouting]
(woman) BABY-KILLER!
(man) AND NO ONE CAN SPEAK MORE KNOWLEDGEABLY
TO JACK'S DEDICATION...
WHAT IS IT?
FIND MICHAEL CUTTER.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE TO DRAG HIM OUT OF THE BATHTUB.
TELL HIM TO BE IN MY OFFICE IN 20 MINUTES.
(man) SO NOW, LIVE FROM TANZANIA VIA THE INTERNET,
IS OUR OLD FRIEND ADAM SCHIFF.
ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE THIS EASIER FOR SHALVOY?
I TOLD YOU I WOULD DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT A MINEFIELD
THIS CASE HAS BECOME THANKS TO THIS ARREST?
YOU DAMN WELL BETTER HAVE SOME NEW
AND COMPELLING EVIDENCE AGAINST HER.
[clears throat] WE HAVE A RECORDING OF STATEMENTS
SHE MADE TO HER GAL PALS,
STATEMENTS THAT WEREN'T
IN THE PAPERS.
WE HAVE MEANS, OPPORTUNITY, AND NOW WE HAVE MOTIVE,
NOT TO MENTION EVIDENCE OF FLIGHT.
SHE'S THE BETTER CASE.
IT'S STILL GONNA LOOK LIKE WE REVERSED COURSE
BECAUSE WE SAW HER CHUGGING A BEER
ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE DAILY NEWS.
THE COPS WERE INVESTIGATING HER
BEFORE HER LATE-NIGHT ANTICS MADE THE NEWS.
SO DON'T WORRY.
YOU'RE COVERED.
DISMISS AGAINST DEREK SHERMAN
AND MAKE A DEAL WITH CARLY...
QUIETLY.
HOW'S THAT GONNA LOOK?
BETTER THAN THE CIRCUS
HER TRIAL WOULD BE.
I WANT THIS CASE CLOSED.
AND, MIKE...
IF SHALVOY'S HACK WINS THIS ELECTION,
DON'T, FOR A SECOND, IMAGINE YOU'LL GET AWAY
WITH PULLING HALF THE CRAP YOU PULL
WITH ME.
(Rubirosa) 50 YEARS, CARLY--
THAT'S THE SENTENCE THE JUDGE COULD GIVE YOU.
THEY'RE TRYING TO SCARE YOU, HONEY.
PROSPECT OF PUTTING A WAR WIDOW ON TRIAL
HAS THEM GRINDING THEIR TEETH AT NIGHT.
YOU SEE ME WEARING A RETAINER, MS. WELLER?
ACCIDENTALLY OR NOT, MOTHERS WHO KILL THEIR BABIES
AREN'T POPULAR WITH JURIES.
IN MY TRIALS, JURIES REACT TO FACTS, NOT FANTASIES.
AND THE FACT HERE IS THAT YOU HAD A PERFECTLY GOOD SUSPECT
IN DEREK SHERMAN,
BUT BECAUSE CARLY DIDN'T GRIEVE IN A MANNER THAT SUITED YOU
AND YOUR MOB OF VIGILANTES,
YOU DECIDED TO PUNISH HER.
YOUR CLIENT INCRIMINATED HERSELF.
MS. RUBIROSA, AFTER A DOZEN TEQUILA SHOOTERS,
YOU WOULDN'T STILL BE YOUR SWEET SUNDAY SCHOOL SELF.
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY DEAL.
OUR DEFENSE IS DEREK SHERMAN
AND HIS BACKPACK.
OH, AND TELL JACK MCCOY,
FROM NOW UNTIL THE ELECTION,
I'M GONNA NAIL THIS CASE TO HIS FOREHEAD
SO THAT WHEN VOTERS COME ACROSS HIS NAME
ON THE BALLOT, ALL THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE
IS CARLY'S GRIEVING FACE.
(woman) WHY WOULD I HAVE TO TESTIFY
AT CARLY'S TRIAL?
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT SHE DID.
(Rubirosa) WE WON'T BE CALLING YOU.
CARLY'S LAWYER WILL,
TO PROVE THAT DEREK SHERMAN PLANTED THAT BOMB.
(Cutter) THEY'LL PUT YOU ON THE STAND, UNDER OATH,
TO SAY YOU TOOK SHERMAN'S BACKPACK,
KEPT IT FOR THE POLICE, AND NEVER DID ANYTHING TO IT,
LIKE SPRAY BUTANE
ON IT.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
I THINK SO.
THEN IT'LL BE MY TURN.
I'LL RIP YOUR STORY APART, ATTACKING CREDIBILITY,
DREDGE UP EVERY LIE YOU EVER TOLD.
IF YOU TAMPERED WITH THAT BACKPACK,
WE WILL FIND OUT RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
YOU'LL BE CHARGED WITH PERJURY.
[sighing] OH, GOD.
BUT IF YOU TELL US THE TRUTH NOW,
THERE'LL BE NO NEED FOR YOU TO TESTIFY.
WE KNOW YOUR HEART WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
A-A BABY
IS AN INNOCENT SOUL.
I THOUGHT SHERMAN WAS GUILTY.
I-I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO GET AWAY WITH IT.
SO--
SO I SPRAYED BUTANE INSIDE HIS BACKPACK.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
(man) CARLY SAID SHE'S TIRED OF BEING IGNORED.
SHE SAID IF MIKE DIDN'T COME BACK,
SHE'D BE A WIDOW RAISING A CHILD ALL ALONE,
AND NO MAN WOULD GIVE HER THE TIME OF DAY.
THANK YOU, MR. DI GRAVIA.
YOU TESTIFIED YOUR SON BLEW HIS FINGERS OFF WITH A BOMB
MADE WITH A BLASTING CAP AND A CAN OF BUTANE.
THAT'S RIGHT, AND CARLY KNEW IT.
(Weller) IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN CORROBORATE
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BOMB? NOT REALLY.
BUT WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT IT?
ISN'T IT TRUE YOU WANTED CARLY TO LEAVE LITTLE MIKEY WITH YOU
WHEN SHE WENT TO NEW YORK,
THAT YOU CALLED HER TO ASK WHY SHE WAS STAYING ON?
YEAH, WE THOUGHT MIKEY SHOULD BE HOME.
DEFENSE'S 17-- COPY OF AN E-MAIL
SENT TO CARLY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE BOMBING.
MR. DI GRAVIA, DID YOU SEND THIS E-MAIL?
YEAH.
PLEASE READ THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTIONS.
"DEAR CARLY...
"WE'VE BEEN READING ABOUT YOU
"AND SEEING YOUR INTERVIEWS.
"YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT LITTLE MIKEY.
"DON'T YOU MISS HIM, TOO?
"YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK SAD. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
"IF YOU WOULD'VE LEFT HIM
"WITH US LIKE WE TOLD YOU,
OUR ANGEL WOULD STILL BE ALIVE."
(Weller) YOU BLAME HER FOR HIS DEATH, DON'T YOU?
I DON'T KNOW.
YOU BLAME HER, AND WHEN THE POLICE GAVE YOU THE CHANCE,
YOU DECIDED TO STICK IT TO HER WITH A LIE
ABOUT A BUTANE BOMB.
OBJECTION!
OVERRULED. I DIDN'T LIE.
MIKEY WOULD STILL BE ALIVE IF SHE WOULD'VE LISTENED TO US,
BUT I DIDN'T LIE.
(Weller) NO MORE QUESTIONS.
(Carly on recording) THE ARMY
THOUGHT THEY WERE DEALING WITH SOME DUMB COAL CRACKER.
NOW THEY'RE KISSING MY ASS.
WHOO! THOSE OPERATION MOLLIE WEIRDOS
GAVE ME SOME MONEY FOR CLOTHES.
I WENT TO THIS BOUTIQUE TODAY AND LOOK WHAT I GOT.
DON'T I LOOK HOT?
(Cutter) AND AT THIS POINT,
WHAT DID CARLY DO?
(Vicki) SHE LIFTED HER DRESS
TO SHOW ME A PAIR OF SILK PANTIES,
THONG-TYPE.
THANK YOU.
HOW MANY DRINKS HAD CARLY HAD
WHEN THIS WAS RECORDED?
I WASN'T COUNTING.
BUT YOU WERE TREATING,
AND WE HAVE YOUR CREDIT-CARD RECEIPTS.
MAYBE EIGHT OR NINE
TEQUILA SUNRISES. HMM.
AND HOW MANY DRINKS HAD YOU HAD?
ONE MARGARITA.
YOU GOT HER DRUNK, DIDN'T YOU?
YOU TOYED WITH HER
LIKE A MARIONETTE.
YOU PLANTED IDEAS IN HER HEAD.
I DID NOT.
I JUST LET HER TALK.
ISN'T THE REASON YOU CONTACTED HER IN THE FIRST PLACE
IS BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT SHE WAS GUILTY?
(Vicki) SHE FIT A PROFILE.
SHE ONLY TALKED ABOUT HER NEEDS.
SHE'S A NARCISSIST.
YOU ARE QUITE THE EXPERT IN CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY.
HEY, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME?
UH, IT'S--IT'S WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A SHOCK,
AND IT CHANGES THEM.
A SHOCK--LIKE ALMOST BEING BURNED TO DEATH
AND LOSING YOUR CHILD AND HUSBAND.
DID THAT FIGURE IN YOUR PROFILE?
NO.
BUT THE POLICE HAD ARRESTED SOMEONE ELSE,
AND HE DIDN'T FIT THE PROFILE.
THE POLICE HAD ANOTHER SUSPECT?
(judge) OVERRULED.
THE WITNESS MAY RESPOND.
YES, THIS ANTI-WAR GUY,
BUT HE WAS INTO SELLING MARIJUANA
AND HASH,
WHICH MEANS HIS TENDENCIES ARE NONVIOLENT.
AND THIS IS YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, HMM,
AS A HAIRDRESSER'S ASSISTANT?
NOTHING FURTHER, YOUR HONOR.
WELLER'S SCORING POINTS IN THERE,
BUT I DON'T SEE HER PULLING IT OFF
UNLESS SHE PUTS CARLY ON THE STAND.
DID WE KNOW SHERMAN DEALT DRUGS?
YEAH, HE WAS KICKED OUT OF A COLLEGE IN MARYLAND
FOR A DRUG-RELATED OFFENSE, BUT COLLEGE SEALED THE RECORD.
I NEED TO TALK TO NARCOTICS.
I'M HAVING FLASHBACKS TO ONE OF MY DRUG CASES.
YOU HAVE THE COPS DRAG MY CLIENT OUT OF BED,
THEN YOU GET ME DOWN HERE--
HAS YOUR CLIENT TOLD YOU HE USED TO DEAL HASH OIL IN COLLEGE?
I DIDN'T-- DON'T BOTHER.
OUR AMATEUR CRIME-BUSTERS
DUG UP THREE OF YOUR FORMER CUSTOMERS FROM COLLEGE.
YEAH, MAYBE HE BOOSTED A COUPLE CDs IN HIGH SCHOOL.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
BUTANE IS USED TO EXTRACT HASH OIL
FROM HASHISH.
YOU SAID, AND I QUOTE,
"I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUTANE
I DON'T EVEN OWN A LIGHTER."
LOOK, I STOPPED DEALING, LIKE, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, OKAY?
I THREW AWAY ALL THE BUTANE.
I SWEAR, ALL I DID WAS THROW A BRICK!
(McCoy) I SUPPORTED
DISMISSING THE CHARGES AGAINST SHERMAN
BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T LINK HIM TO THE EXPLOSIVE DEVICE.
WELL, NOW WE CAN.
WE CAN ONLY LINK HIM TO BUTANE.
WE CAN LINK CARLY TO BOTH BUTANE AND BLASTING CAPS,
THANKS TO HER FATHER-IN-LAW.
YEAH, ASSUMING HE'S NOT JUST TRYING TO GET EVEN WITH HER.
DO THESE LOOK LIKE THE INJURIES
OF A MOTHER WHO TRIED TO SAVE HER BABY FROM AN INFERNO?
THAT'S NOT EVIDENCE.
YOU SOUND LIKE OPERATION MOLLIE.
ENOUGH.
YOU TWO HAVE A TRIAL THAT RECONVENES IN 15 MINUTES.
MR. SHERMAN'S ADVENTURES IN DRUG DEALING
ARE BRADY MATERIAL.
YOU HAVE TO TELL CARLY'S LAWYER ABOUT IT.
(Weller) NOW THAT MR. SHERMAN
HAS ADMITTED OWNING BUTANE, THAT PUTS HIM BACK IN PLAY
AS A VIABLE ALTERNATE THEORY OF THE CRIME.
I MOVE, YOUR HONOR, TO REVERSE YOUR PRIOR RULING
AND ALLOW ME TO PRESENT THIS TO THE JURY.
HE ADMITTED OWNING BUTANE TWO YEARS AGO.
IT'S HARDLY RELEVANT.
I'M NOT SURE I AGREE, MR. CUTTER.
(Cutter) FINE, YOUR HONOR.
THE PEOPLE WILL STIPULATE
THAT THERE WAS AT ONE TIME ANOTHER SUSPECT IN THE CASE.
A STIPULATION ISN'T ENOUGH.
I WANT TO CALL WITNESSES TO PURSUE OUR THEORY
THAT DEREK SHERMAN THREW THAT BOMB.
YOUR HONOR, PLEASE--
I'M GOING TO GIVE MS. WELLER LATITUDE HERE.
I'LL NEED A FEW DAYS, YOUR HONOR.
TRIAL WILL RESUME NEXT MONDAY.
(Carly) I'M SORRY FOR MY BEHAVIOR.
I JUST FELT AT THE BOTTOM OF SO MUCH HURT.
I COULDN'T EVEN SAY MIKEY'S NAME WITHOUT--
(Rubirosa) AFTER WELLER'S FINISHED
PUTTING SHERMAN ON TRIAL,
THE JURY WILL NEVER CONVICT CARLY.
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST WE DO--
DISMISS AGAINST CARLY AND GO AFTER SHERMAN?
AND THEN HIS LAWYER
WILL USE CARLY AS AN ALTERNATE THEORY OF THE CRIME.
WE CAN PROBABLY LOW-BALL A GUILTY PLEA OUT OF SHERMAN.
A FLIP-FLOP LIKE THAT?
EVEN I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR ME.
PUT ME THROUGH TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE.
HI, KATE. THIS IS JACK.
I'M GOING TO BE SENDING OVER A PRESS RELEASE IN AN HOUR
ABOUT THE ARMY RECRUITMENT CENTER BOMBING.
THANKS.
I'M SURE YOU COULD STRIP THE FLESH OFF CARLY'S BONES
ON CROSS.
SHE'S TRAUMATIZED.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HER TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.
AND SHERMAN'S LOOKING AT 50 YEARS.
I DON'T DOUBT THAT WE CAN RAM A PLEA BARGAIN
DOWN HIS THROAT NOW.
I'M DECLINING TO PROSECUTE
BOTH MRS. DI GRAVIA AND MR. SHERMAN,
BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY WHICH ONE IS GUILTY
BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
THE FOG OF WAR IS BLINDING US TO THE TRUTH.
BETTER NOT TO CONVICT ANYONE THAN CONVICT THE WRONG PERSON.
I CAN SEE THE HEADLINES NOW-- "NO JUSTICE FOR BABY MIKEY."
YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A LOT OF HEAT FOR THIS.
I CAN LIVE WITH THAT...
SO CAN YOU.
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