1 00:00:05,806 --> 00:00:07,741 (male announcer) IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, 2 00:00:07,775 --> 00:00:10,078 THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE 3 00:00:10,111 --> 00:00:12,146 YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS-- 4 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:13,714 THE POLICE WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME 5 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:16,517 AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS. 6 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:18,519 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 7 00:00:21,155 --> 00:00:24,125 [disco music playing on boom box] 8 00:00:24,158 --> 00:00:31,265 * 9 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:39,107 >> HEY, TINKER BELL, WHERE'S PETER PAN? 10 00:00:39,140 --> 00:00:42,610 >> HEY, YO, YOU PRACTICING FOR THE OLYMPIC TEAM FROM NEVERLAND? 11 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:45,579 [laughs] 12 00:00:45,613 --> 00:00:47,315 >> YOU KNOW WHO I AM? 13 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:49,683 >> NO--NO, MAN. JUST A GUY ON SKATES. 14 00:00:49,717 --> 00:00:51,319 >> IT'S COOL. 15 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:58,159 [train whistle blows] 16 00:00:58,192 --> 00:00:59,693 >> THE BODIES WERE FOUND BY VOLUNTEERS 17 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:00,694 TAKING A HOMELESS CENSUS. 18 00:01:00,728 --> 00:01:01,829 THEY WERE OUT ALL NIGHT 19 00:01:01,862 --> 00:01:04,132 TRYING TO GET A COUNT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE STREETS. 20 00:01:04,165 --> 00:01:06,867 >> YEAH, AND DYING, APPARENTLY. 21 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:11,705 >> AND NO WALLETS, NO IDs. 22 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:13,641 THIS ONE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A FACE ANYMORE. 23 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:15,143 >> THEY COULD BE HOBOS. 24 00:01:15,176 --> 00:01:16,744 THERE'S A FREIGHT LINE RIGHT OVER THERE. 25 00:01:16,777 --> 00:01:19,813 >> HOBOS? WHAT'S THIS? 1933? 26 00:01:19,847 --> 00:01:20,814 >> SORT OF, YEAH. 27 00:01:20,848 --> 00:01:22,883 THE BLUNT FORCE TO THE HEAD, 28 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:25,653 MAYBE COLLEGE KIDS OUT BUM BEATING. 29 00:01:25,686 --> 00:01:28,156 BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY OVERKILL. 30 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,258 >> THIS MUST BE THE MURDER WEAPON-- 31 00:01:30,291 --> 00:01:31,692 A PIECE OF REBAR 32 00:01:31,725 --> 00:01:33,494 WITH A CHUNK OF CEMENT ON THE END. 33 00:01:33,527 --> 00:01:35,896 >> LOOKS LIKE HE CAUGHT 'EM SLEEPING. 34 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:37,131 >> NOT THIS ONE. 35 00:01:37,165 --> 00:01:39,833 HIS SHOES ARE ON. PACK IS ON. 36 00:01:39,867 --> 00:01:42,136 FACING AWAY FROM THE OTHERS. 37 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:44,238 MAYBE RUNNING AWAY. 38 00:01:44,272 --> 00:01:45,906 >> LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THOSE OLD HOBO SYMBOLS. 39 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:48,476 >> LOOKS LIKE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. 40 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:50,578 ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? 41 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:51,879 >> YEAH, "DON'T SLEEP HERE 42 00:01:51,912 --> 00:01:54,148 IF YOU DON'T WANNA GET YOUR HEAD BASHED IN." 43 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:47,201 >> TIME OF DEATH'S AROUND 2:00 A.M. 44 00:02:47,235 --> 00:02:50,671 GUY WITH THE BACKPACK TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO GO. 45 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:54,908 THESE TWO WERE PRETTY INSTANTANEOUS, 46 00:02:54,942 --> 00:02:57,245 AND THESE... 47 00:02:57,278 --> 00:02:59,247 WERE POSTMORTEM. 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,548 KILLER CARVED THEM INTO THE BODIES 49 00:03:00,581 --> 00:03:02,316 AFTER THE VICTIMS WERE DEAD. 50 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:03,251 >> "3-7-7." 51 00:03:03,284 --> 00:03:05,386 >> YEAH, YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. 52 00:03:05,419 --> 00:03:07,688 WHATEVER THE KILLER USED, IT WAS SHARP. 53 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:09,690 THERE ARE NO CARVINGS ON THE THIRD BODY. 54 00:03:09,723 --> 00:03:12,526 >> THAT'S BECAUSE HE WASN'T A TARGET. 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,295 HE JUST HAPPENED ON THE SCENE 56 00:03:14,328 --> 00:03:16,530 AND GOT CLUBBED AS A WITNESS. 57 00:03:16,564 --> 00:03:18,232 >> THIS WASN'T A BUM BEATING. 58 00:03:18,266 --> 00:03:20,368 CRYPTIC CARVINGS, BODY DESECRATION. 59 00:03:20,401 --> 00:03:23,804 >> MY VERY FIRST SERIAL KILLER. 60 00:03:23,837 --> 00:03:24,705 >> THANKS. 61 00:03:24,738 --> 00:03:28,409 >> THE FBI CALLS HIM THE BOXCAR BASHER. 62 00:03:28,442 --> 00:03:29,410 >> WELL, THAT'S CUTE. 63 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:30,811 >> HE RIDES THE RAILS, 64 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:32,346 HOPS OFF WHEN HE GETS THE ITCH, 65 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:34,582 ALWAYS KILLS WITHIN SIGHT OF A FREIGHT LINE. 66 00:03:34,615 --> 00:03:36,817 >> WELL, THE OAK POINT LINKS 67 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:39,253 IS ACROSS THE RIVER FROM THAT ENCAMPMENT. 68 00:03:39,287 --> 00:03:41,422 >> I PULLED THESE OFF VICAP. 69 00:03:41,455 --> 00:03:44,325 HE'S KILLED NINE PEOPLE SINCE 2001. 70 00:03:44,358 --> 00:03:46,327 OUR THREE MAKE IT 12. 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,597 HE TARGETS THE HOMELESS, ONE OR TWO AT A TIME. 72 00:03:49,630 --> 00:03:51,699 THEY'VE GOT NO PRINTS OF VALUE, NO DNA. 73 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:53,834 >> WHAT'S WITH THE NUMBERS? 3-7-7? 74 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:56,904 >> IT'S THE YEAR EMPEROR GRATIAN 75 00:03:56,937 --> 00:04:00,674 DECLARED HERETICS ENEMIES OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. 76 00:04:00,708 --> 00:04:02,910 DO WE HAVE IDs ON OUR THREE? 77 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,445 >> UH, JUST ONE IS IN THE SYSTEM-- 78 00:04:04,478 --> 00:04:05,846 THE GUY IN THE SLEEPING BAG, 79 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:07,415 MICKEY FLYNN OUT OF TULSA. 80 00:04:07,448 --> 00:04:09,583 WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF HIS SISTER THERE. 81 00:04:09,617 --> 00:04:11,051 THE OTHER TWO ARE STILL JOHN DOES. 82 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:12,953 >> THERE'S A HOMELESS SHELTER ON WARD'S ISLAND. 83 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:14,522 SOMEBODY THERE MIGHT KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 84 00:04:14,555 --> 00:04:16,490 >> ALL RIGHT, GET ON THAT. 85 00:04:16,524 --> 00:04:17,525 >> RIGHT. 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,729 >> I USED TO GO BY THAT CAMPSITE EVERY NIGHT. 87 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:22,730 >> YOU RECOGNIZE HIM? 88 00:04:22,763 --> 00:04:24,064 HIS NAME IS MICKEY FLYNN. 89 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:25,566 USED TO LIVE IN TULSA. 90 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:26,634 >> NO. 91 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:28,869 >> ALL RIGHT, WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WITH THESE SKATES 92 00:04:28,902 --> 00:04:30,037 WITH THAT OLYMPIC SYMBOL? 93 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:31,705 >> UH, SORRY. 94 00:04:31,739 --> 00:04:33,641 >> WHAT ABOUT NUMBER THREE? 95 00:04:33,674 --> 00:04:35,676 >> OH, GOD. 96 00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:37,010 CHIP. 97 00:04:37,044 --> 00:04:38,011 >> WHO'S CHIP? 98 00:04:38,045 --> 00:04:40,314 >> CHIP HUDSON. 99 00:04:40,348 --> 00:04:42,416 HE AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WERE STAYIN' HERE. 100 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:44,485 DOIN' GOOD. STAYIN' SOBER. 101 00:04:44,518 --> 00:04:46,086 THEY'RE INSEPARABLE, 102 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:49,056 BUT THIS MORNING I SAW MARY AT BREAKFAST ALONE. 103 00:04:49,089 --> 00:04:50,991 >> OKAY, IS MARY HERE NOW? 104 00:04:51,024 --> 00:04:52,993 >> NO, SHE USUALLY HANGS AROUND UNION SQUARE 105 00:04:53,026 --> 00:04:54,828 DURING THE DAY. 106 00:04:54,862 --> 00:04:57,631 AND SHE DOESN'T LIKE COPS. 107 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:01,935 >> IS THAT A BRIBE? 108 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:04,372 >> SORT OF, YEAH. 109 00:05:04,405 --> 00:05:06,574 >> WE'RE VERY SORRY ABOUT CHIP, MARY. 110 00:05:06,607 --> 00:05:10,744 CAN YOU TELL US WHAT HE DID LAST NIGHT? 111 00:05:13,781 --> 00:05:16,817 >> SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE MOVIES. 112 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:17,918 BUT HE WAS LATE. 113 00:05:17,951 --> 00:05:20,521 SAID HE MET SOME HOMELESS GUY HE KNEW FROM AROUND 114 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:24,958 WHO WAS BUYIN' EVERYBODY SCOTCH AND STEAKS AT MORON'S. 115 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:26,827 >> MORAN'S? 116 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:31,098 >> I DON'T KNOW. 117 00:05:31,131 --> 00:05:33,467 MADE HIM TAKE ME TO THE LATE MOVIE. 118 00:05:33,501 --> 00:05:37,971 SO WE GOT BACK TO THE SHELTER AFTER IT CLOSED, 119 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:42,776 SO WE WENT TO THE CAMP, AND... 120 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:44,612 >> WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CAMP, MARY? 121 00:05:47,648 --> 00:05:49,417 >> HEY, WE WANT TO CATCH THE PERSON WHO DID THIS 122 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:50,418 AND PUT HIM IN JAIL. 123 00:05:50,451 --> 00:05:52,853 WE REALLY DO. 124 00:05:52,886 --> 00:05:58,091 >> WE SAW A MAN LEANIN' OVER TWO BODIES ON THE GROUND. 125 00:05:58,125 --> 00:06:00,528 LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DRAWIN' ON THEM. 126 00:06:00,561 --> 00:06:02,029 CHIP THOUGHT HE WAS STEALIN', 127 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:03,130 SO WE RAN IN TO STOP HIM. 128 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:05,032 >> DID YOU SEE THE MAN'S FACE? 129 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:06,033 >> SORT OF. 130 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:08,168 HE GLOWED A LITTLE. 131 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:10,170 >> HIS FACE GLOWED? 132 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:13,841 >> HIS HAND GLOWED. IT LIT HIS FACE. 133 00:06:13,874 --> 00:06:16,777 >> W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN HIS HAND GLOWED? 134 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:18,412 >> IT HAD A BLUE LIGHT. 135 00:06:18,446 --> 00:06:19,279 HE KEPT LOOKIN' AT IT 136 00:06:19,312 --> 00:06:20,781 AND THEN BACK AT WHAT HE WAS DRAWIN', 137 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:21,882 AND THEN HE SAW CHIP, 138 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:23,551 AND HE PICKED UP A STICK AND HE HIT CHIP, 139 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:25,953 AND CHIP YELLED, "RUN, MARY, RUN." 140 00:06:25,986 --> 00:06:28,722 AND I RAN AND I RAN, AND... 141 00:06:28,756 --> 00:06:32,660 WE SHOULD HAVE JUST WENT HOME. 142 00:06:32,693 --> 00:06:35,429 I DIDN'T NEED TO SEE THAT MOVIE. 143 00:06:35,463 --> 00:06:37,731 >> HEY. HEY, HEY, HEY, MARY. 144 00:06:37,765 --> 00:06:40,033 IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, ALL RIGHT? 145 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:42,470 LOOK AT ME, MARY. 146 00:06:42,503 --> 00:06:44,171 >> MARY, DID THE THING IN THAT MAN'S HAND 147 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:47,775 LOOK LIKE THIS? 148 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:50,578 >> I DON'T KNOW. 149 00:06:50,611 --> 00:06:52,680 >> HEY... 150 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:56,550 WHAT ABOUT NOW? HMM? 151 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:58,151 >> YEAH. 152 00:06:58,185 --> 00:06:59,853 YEAH. 153 00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:02,456 WHAT IS THAT? 154 00:07:02,490 --> 00:07:04,492 >> THE KILLER WAS LOOKING BACK AND FORTH 155 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:05,926 FROM THE SCREEN TO THE NUMBER 156 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:07,561 THAT HE WAS CARVING INTO THE BODIES. 157 00:07:07,595 --> 00:07:09,630 >> WE FIGURE HE WANTED TO GET IT JUST RIGHT. 158 00:07:09,663 --> 00:07:11,999 >> HE COULD HAVE LOOKED UP SERIAL KILLERS ON THE INTERNET, 159 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:15,836 DOWNLOADED THE NUMBER 3-7-7 TO HIS CELL PHONE. 160 00:07:15,869 --> 00:07:19,840 >> YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS A COPYCAT? 161 00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:21,208 >> YEAH. 162 00:07:21,241 --> 00:07:23,577 >> BASED ON A GRIEVING MADWOMAN 163 00:07:23,611 --> 00:07:25,078 WHO SAW A GLOWING HAND? 164 00:07:25,112 --> 00:07:27,247 >> NOT JUST THAT. THE CARVINGS ARE OUT OF ORDER. 165 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,048 >> OUT OF ORDER? 166 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:30,217 >> RIGHT. ON THE WRONG BODY PARTS. 167 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:32,720 NOW, THESE ARE THE PREVIOUS VICTIMS. 168 00:07:32,753 --> 00:07:34,488 THE FIRST CARVING WAS ON THE TOE, 169 00:07:34,522 --> 00:07:35,756 THE SECOND ONE ON THE FOOT, 170 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:38,526 THEN THE HEEL, THE ANKLE, THE CALF, 171 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:41,161 KNEE, THIGH, HIP, BACK. 172 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:42,496 >> MOVING UP THE BODY. 173 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:44,498 >> YEAH. OUR VICTIMS WERE CARVED 174 00:07:44,532 --> 00:07:45,899 IN THE CALF AND THE ARM. 175 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:49,603 >> SO WHY DOES THIS REMIND ME OF A SONG? 176 00:07:49,637 --> 00:07:51,204 >> DEM BONES. 177 00:07:51,238 --> 00:07:55,509 >> RIGHT. "TOE BONE'S CONNECTED TO THE FOOT BONE, 178 00:07:55,543 --> 00:07:56,944 "FOOT BONE CONNECTED TO THE HEEL BONE, 179 00:07:56,977 --> 00:07:58,746 NOW HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD." 180 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:00,848 >> YEAH, IT'S EZEKIEL 37:7. 181 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:02,015 >> 3-7-7. 182 00:08:02,049 --> 00:08:03,817 OUR KILLER DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS, 183 00:08:03,851 --> 00:08:05,653 SO HE CARVED THE WRONG PLACES. 184 00:08:05,686 --> 00:08:08,221 >> YOU MEAN OUR COPYCAT. 185 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:10,624 HE'S PRETENDING TO BE A SERIAL KILLER, 186 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:14,127 BUT HE HAD A SPECIFIC MOTIVE TO KILL ONE OF OUR VICTIMS. 187 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:17,197 FIRST THING IS TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE. 188 00:08:17,230 --> 00:08:19,166 >> RIGHT, WELL, YOU CAN RULE OUT CHIP HUDSON. 189 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,268 HE WANDERED IN WHEN THE TWO WERE ALREADY DEAD. 190 00:08:21,301 --> 00:08:23,270 >> AND PROBABLY MICKEY FLYNN. 191 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,806 HIS SISTER SAID HE CALLED LATE LAST NIGHT. 192 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:27,541 HE'D JUST ARRIVED IN NEW YORK. 193 00:08:27,575 --> 00:08:28,976 NOT ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE AN ENEMY. 194 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:30,844 >> WHICH LEAVES THE ROLLER SKATER, 195 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,646 WHO HAD NO PRINTS IN THE SYSTEM, 196 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:34,081 AND NOT ENOUGH FACE LEFT 197 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:35,649 FOR ANYBODY TO RECOGNIZE. 198 00:08:35,683 --> 00:08:39,720 >> WELL, SOMEONE'S BOUND TO RECOGNIZE THESE. 199 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,593 >> ALL RIGHT, YOU EVER SEEN THESE? 200 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:48,295 >> NAH, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT DESIGN. 201 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:49,963 I DON'T THINK THE OLYMPIC RINGS 202 00:08:49,997 --> 00:08:52,099 ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RED AND UPSIDE DOWN. 203 00:08:52,132 --> 00:08:54,167 YOU DON'T SEE TOO MANY OF THESE. 204 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:55,603 >> WHAT'S THAT? 205 00:08:55,636 --> 00:08:57,204 THE SKATES OR THE UPSIDE DOWN OLYMPIC SYMBOLS? 206 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:58,205 >> NO, THE SKATES. 207 00:08:58,238 --> 00:08:59,573 MOST PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD 'EM. 208 00:08:59,607 --> 00:09:01,274 RUN YA ABOUT 500 BUCKS. 209 00:09:01,308 --> 00:09:04,912 >> HMM. THANKS. 210 00:09:04,945 --> 00:09:07,581 >> A HOMELESS GUY WITH $500 SKATES. 211 00:09:07,615 --> 00:09:08,716 >> MAYBE THE SAME HOMELESS GUY 212 00:09:08,749 --> 00:09:11,084 THAT BOUGHT HIS FRIENDS SCOTCH AND STEAKS AT MORAN'S. 213 00:09:11,118 --> 00:09:12,586 >> I'M SORRY TO HEAR. 214 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:14,321 HE WAS A REGULAR. 215 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:17,691 PEOPLE CALLED HIM THE BIPOLAR ROLLER. 216 00:09:17,725 --> 00:09:20,027 TECHNICALLY, I THINK HE WAS SCHIZOPHRENIC. 217 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:22,262 I STUDIED PSYCHOLOGY. 218 00:09:22,295 --> 00:09:24,698 >> THE BIPOLAR ROLLER. 219 00:09:24,732 --> 00:09:26,600 WAS HE IN HERE LAST NIGHT? 220 00:09:26,634 --> 00:09:28,101 >> WELL, NOT EXACTLY "IN." 221 00:09:28,135 --> 00:09:30,103 UH, HE AND HIS BUDDIES, UH... 222 00:09:30,137 --> 00:09:31,805 WELL, THERE'S A DRESS CODE, 223 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:32,906 PLUS THE ODOR. 224 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:34,241 WE SET UP A TABLE IN THE STORE ROOM. 225 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:35,909 >> YOU KNOW ANY OF HIS BUDDIES' NAMES? 226 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:37,110 WHERE THEY HANG OUT? 227 00:09:37,144 --> 00:09:38,712 >> NEW CROWD EVERY TIME. 228 00:09:38,746 --> 00:09:40,180 THE ROLLER WAS SOCIABLE. 229 00:09:40,213 --> 00:09:42,315 HE GOT MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE, 230 00:09:42,349 --> 00:09:44,151 BUT CHOSE TO LIVE ON THE STREET. 231 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:46,019 >> YOU KNOW WHAT STREET HE CHOSE TO LIVE ON? 232 00:09:46,053 --> 00:09:48,656 >> HE SKATED AROUND 72nd AND BROADWAY. 233 00:09:48,689 --> 00:09:50,791 HAD A REGULAR FAN CLUB UP THERE. 234 00:09:50,824 --> 00:09:52,292 >> HMM. 235 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:53,894 >> THE BIPOLAR ROLLER. 236 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:55,395 HE'S HERE EVERY DAY. 237 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:58,298 >> IS THAT GOOD OR BAD FOR YOUR BUSINESS 238 00:09:58,331 --> 00:09:59,633 WITH HIM HANGING AROUND? 239 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:01,201 >> DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE. 240 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:04,171 KINDA LIKE MY CHIROPRACTOR. 241 00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:06,206 >> YOU KNOW HIS NAME OR ANYWHERE ELSE HE HANGS OUT? 242 00:10:06,239 --> 00:10:07,207 >> NOT REALLY. 243 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,275 WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM? 244 00:10:08,308 --> 00:10:12,145 >> BECAUSE HE'S DEAD. [disco music on boom box] 245 00:10:12,179 --> 00:10:14,948 >> PRETTY LIVELY CORPSE. 246 00:10:14,982 --> 00:10:21,989 * 247 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,900 >> YOU'RE A VERY LUCKY MAN, YOU KNOW THAT? 248 00:10:32,933 --> 00:10:34,001 WE THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD. 249 00:10:34,034 --> 00:10:35,836 >> THE BIPOLAR ROLLER. 250 00:10:35,869 --> 00:10:37,204 >> REAL NAME'S JONAH APPLEBAUM. 251 00:10:37,237 --> 00:10:39,072 HAD A BOTTLE OF EXPIRED HALDOL ON HIM. 252 00:10:39,106 --> 00:10:41,074 SAYS HE DOESN'T NEED IT ANYMORE. 253 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:42,876 >> I BEG TO DIFFER. >> MM-HMM. 254 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:44,244 OH, BY THE WAY, 255 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,213 HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE CALLED THE BIPOLAR ROLLER. 256 00:10:46,246 --> 00:10:47,815 >> WHY? IT'S OFFENSIVE? 257 00:10:47,848 --> 00:10:49,216 >> IT'S TRADEMARKED. 258 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:50,383 [exhales] 259 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:53,053 >> DOES ANYTHING IN THESE TWO PICTURES LOOK FAMILIAR? 260 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:55,122 >> THOSE ARE MY OLD SKATES. 261 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:58,892 I GOT NEW ONES. 262 00:10:58,926 --> 00:11:02,963 SHOO. OOH. BREAK IT DOWN. 263 00:11:05,032 --> 00:11:06,934 IS THAT PACO? 264 00:11:06,967 --> 00:11:08,902 >> YOU TELL US. 265 00:11:08,936 --> 00:11:13,340 >> WELL, HE HAD MY OLD SKATES. 266 00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:14,374 IS HE DEAD? 267 00:11:14,407 --> 00:11:15,575 >> YEAH. 268 00:11:15,608 --> 00:11:19,079 THREE PEOPLE WERE MURDERED ON RANDALL'S ISLAND LAST NIGHT. 269 00:11:19,112 --> 00:11:20,848 WE THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU. 270 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:23,717 >> YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO HURT PACO? 271 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:25,052 ANYONE THAT WAS MAD AT HIM? 272 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:25,853 >> NO. 273 00:11:25,886 --> 00:11:27,921 >> WHY DID PACO HAVE YOUR SKATES? 274 00:11:27,955 --> 00:11:28,922 >> I GAVE 'EM TO HIM. 275 00:11:28,956 --> 00:11:31,058 ON MONDAY IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY, 276 00:11:31,091 --> 00:11:32,926 AND HE REALLY LIKED 'EM, 277 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,896 AND I'D JUST GOTTEN THIS NEW PAIR. 278 00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:37,497 >> DID YOU SEE HIM LAST NIGHT? 279 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:41,902 >> NO. I STAYED IN MANHATTAN LAST NIGHT. 280 00:11:41,935 --> 00:11:43,003 DIDN'T GO TO THE CAMP. 281 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:44,972 >> YOU USUALLY STAY THERE? 282 00:11:45,005 --> 00:11:47,040 >> MM-HMM. IT'S NICE. 283 00:11:47,074 --> 00:11:50,744 I LIKE THE RIVER. 284 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:52,813 >> HMM. 285 00:11:52,846 --> 00:11:54,414 SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WHOEVER KILLED PACO 286 00:11:54,447 --> 00:11:56,249 THOUGHT HE WAS YOU? 287 00:11:56,283 --> 00:11:57,250 >> ME? 288 00:11:57,284 --> 00:11:58,451 >> HE HAD YOUR SKATES, 289 00:11:58,485 --> 00:12:01,054 YOU USUALLY STAY THERE, IT WAS DARK... 290 00:12:01,088 --> 00:12:02,790 >> WAS ANYONE MAD AT YOU? 291 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:09,029 >> PUTIN. 292 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:09,863 >> PUTIN. 293 00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:11,498 VLADIMIR PUTIN? THE RUSSIAN LEADER? 294 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:13,200 >> HE'S EX KGB. 295 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:15,803 >> THE KGB IS MAD AT YOU? 296 00:12:15,836 --> 00:12:18,438 >> I REALLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS. 297 00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:19,506 >> WE UNDERSTAND. 298 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,174 MAYBE SOMEBODY WANTED YOUR MONEY. 299 00:12:21,208 --> 00:12:22,943 HAS THAT EVER BEEN A PROBLEM? 300 00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:26,346 >> NO. 301 00:12:26,379 --> 00:12:28,281 >> WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR MONEY? 302 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:30,851 >> MY CLOTHING LINE. 303 00:12:34,822 --> 00:12:37,490 >> SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL JONAH? 304 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:38,826 >> WE'RE NOT SURE. 305 00:12:38,859 --> 00:12:41,028 CAN YOU THINK OF ANYBODY WHO'D WANT TO? 306 00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:42,796 >> NO. 307 00:12:42,830 --> 00:12:45,799 >> I MEAN, HE YELLS AT PEOPLE ON THE STREET SOMETIMES, 308 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:47,200 BUT HE'S HARMLESS. 309 00:12:47,234 --> 00:12:49,837 >> IT SEEMS AS IF HE'S A FASHION ENTREPRENEUR, 310 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:51,404 WHICH I GOTTA TELL YA, 311 00:12:51,438 --> 00:12:53,073 SEEMS A LITTLE ODD. 312 00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:54,541 >> IT WAS MY BROTHER'S IDEA. 313 00:12:54,574 --> 00:12:57,077 HE HEARD ABOUT A GUY LIKE THIS IN CALIFORNIA. 314 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:59,046 HE'S GOT HIS OWN CLOTHING LINE, TOO. 315 00:12:59,079 --> 00:13:00,814 >> AND THEN I SAW JONAH, 316 00:13:00,848 --> 00:13:02,983 SKATING UP AT 72nd STREET. 317 00:13:03,016 --> 00:13:05,018 HE HAD A FOLLOWING. 318 00:13:05,052 --> 00:13:06,954 HE WAS SO CRAZY. 319 00:13:06,987 --> 00:13:09,022 I DON'T MEAN CRAZY CRAZY, 320 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:10,523 JUST CRAZY. 321 00:13:10,557 --> 00:13:12,259 WE THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THE IMAGE. 322 00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:14,995 >> ACTUALLY, HE IS CRAZY CRAZY. 323 00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:18,131 YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE EXPLOITATIVE? 324 00:13:18,165 --> 00:13:19,900 >> HE GETS A STANDARD ROYALTY, 325 00:13:19,933 --> 00:13:21,168 6% OF THE GROSS. 326 00:13:21,201 --> 00:13:22,502 >> HE TAKES PART IN CASH 327 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:24,872 AND THE OTHER PART IN BOOZE AND DISCO TAPES. 328 00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:27,107 HE'S GOT A CLASSIC COLLECTION 329 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:30,110 PILED UP IN A CORNER OF THE WAREHOUSE. 330 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:32,412 >> YOU KNOW, IF JONAH WEREN'T AROUND, 331 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:34,181 THERE'D BE MORE FOR YOU. 332 00:13:34,214 --> 00:13:35,082 >> IF JONAH WEREN'T AROUND, 333 00:13:35,115 --> 00:13:38,018 THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY. 334 00:13:38,051 --> 00:13:39,486 HE'S THE BRAND. 335 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:42,422 >> ANYWAY, HIS HEIR WOULD STILL OWN HIS CONTRACTS. 336 00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:44,157 WE'D KEEP RIGHT ON PAYING. 337 00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:45,158 >> WHO ARE HIS HEIRS? 338 00:13:45,192 --> 00:13:49,229 >> HEIR. HIS COUSIN, JEN. 339 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:50,530 >> I'M THE ONLY FAMILY HE'S GOT 340 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,599 OR GIVES A DAMN. 341 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:54,334 HE'S GOT A BROTHER IN CALIFORNIA 342 00:13:54,367 --> 00:13:56,036 WHO HASN'T SEEN HIM IN YEARS. 343 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:58,471 >> HIS PARTNERS IN THE T-SHIRT COMPANY 344 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:00,908 SAY HE LISTS YOU AS HIS NEXT OF KIN. 345 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:02,175 >> HE USED TO STAY HERE SOMETIMES 346 00:14:02,209 --> 00:14:03,343 UNTIL MY BOYFRIEND MOVED IN. 347 00:14:03,376 --> 00:14:05,478 THIS PLACE IS BARELY BIG ENOUGH FOR ONE. 348 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:08,348 >> SO JONAH'S T-SHIRT MONEY WOULD HELP YOU OUT? 349 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:10,317 >> RIGHT. SO TO GET A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, 350 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:12,385 I KILLED A STRANGER I THOUGHT WAS MY COUSIN 351 00:14:12,419 --> 00:14:14,354 PLUS TWO OTHER PEOPLE? 352 00:14:14,387 --> 00:14:17,024 DO YOU KNOW JONAH'S STORY? 353 00:14:17,057 --> 00:14:18,591 >> ONLY THAT THE KGB IS AFTER HIM. 354 00:14:18,625 --> 00:14:21,628 >> HE WAS 23, TRAINING FOR THE OLYMPICS. 355 00:14:21,661 --> 00:14:23,230 A POLE VAULTER. 356 00:14:23,263 --> 00:14:25,198 HE STILL HOLDS THE UCONN SCHOOL RECORD. 357 00:14:25,232 --> 00:14:27,100 THE RUSSIANS WERE PRIME CONTENDERS THAT YEAR. 358 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:29,202 >> THE OLYMPIC RINGS, THE KGB. 359 00:14:29,236 --> 00:14:30,570 >> YEAH, ONE NIGHT HE GOT HIGH. 360 00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:32,940 HE WAS SELF MEDICATING. 361 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:34,441 THE SCHIZOPHRENIA WAS STARTING TO KICK IN, 362 00:14:34,474 --> 00:14:35,608 AND HE CRASHED HIS CAR. 363 00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:38,111 HE BROKE HIS LEFT ARM BAD, 364 00:14:38,145 --> 00:14:40,313 SO NO MORE POLE VAULTING EVER. 365 00:14:40,347 --> 00:14:42,382 HE BECAME CONVINCED THAT THE RUSSIANS 366 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:43,383 HAD SLIPPED HIM BAD DRUGS 367 00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:45,218 SO THAT THEIR GUY COULD WIN. 368 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:46,453 [door opens] 369 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:49,389 UH, CAL, THESE ARE DETECTIVES. 370 00:14:49,422 --> 00:14:51,458 THEY THINK SOMEBODY TRIED TO KILL JONAH. 371 00:14:51,491 --> 00:14:53,160 >> REALLY? WHY? 372 00:14:53,193 --> 00:14:54,661 >> WE DON'T KNOW. 373 00:14:54,694 --> 00:14:56,363 ANY THEORIES? 374 00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:58,131 >> THAT GUY? GOD ONLY KNOWS. 375 00:14:58,165 --> 00:15:00,100 HE SKATE OVER SOMEONE'S FOOT AGAIN? 376 00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:01,168 >> CAL. 377 00:15:01,201 --> 00:15:02,169 >> HE'S HER PET. 378 00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:03,971 I'M JUST THE BOYFRIEND. 379 00:15:04,004 --> 00:15:06,373 >> JONAH'S GOTTA BE FREAKING OUT. 380 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:08,141 HE WAS ALREADY UPSET YESTERDAY. 381 00:15:08,175 --> 00:15:09,076 HE CAME BY HERE. 382 00:15:09,109 --> 00:15:10,643 HE WAS RUNNING AROUND IN JUST HIS SOCKS. 383 00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:12,245 HE WANTED SOME OF HIS MONEY. 384 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:13,246 I HOLD IT FOR HIM. 385 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,481 >> WHAT WAS HE UPSET ABOUT? 386 00:15:14,514 --> 00:15:16,216 >> HE SAID THAT SOME GUY HE KNEW-- 387 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,418 UH, PACO-- HAD STOLEN HIS SKATES. 388 00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:21,588 HE RAN OUT OF HERE TO BUY NEW ONES. 389 00:15:21,621 --> 00:15:23,556 >> YOU LIED TO US, JONAH. 390 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,692 YOU SAID YOU GAVE YOUR SKATES TO PACO. 391 00:15:25,725 --> 00:15:27,227 >> I WAS AFRAID THAT YOU GUYS 392 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:28,328 WOULD THINK THAT I KILLED PACO. 393 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:32,032 >> HMM. WELL, NOW WE DO THINK THAT YOU KILLED HIM. 394 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:33,633 >> SEE? 395 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:38,038 >> JONAH... 396 00:15:38,071 --> 00:15:40,240 NOW WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME 397 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:41,741 TO TELL US THE WHOLE STORY. 398 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:44,211 >> SOMEBODY WAS FOLLOWING ME, OKAY? 399 00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,181 THE RUSSIANS. 400 00:15:48,215 --> 00:15:50,617 PACO SAID HE WOULD TAKE MY SKATES FOR ONE NIGHT. 401 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:53,186 THAT'S--THE SKATES ARE HOW THEY KNOW WHO I AM. 402 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,623 AND THEN PACO WOULDN'T GIVE 'EM BACK. 403 00:15:56,656 --> 00:15:57,624 >> [sighs] 404 00:15:57,657 --> 00:15:59,292 SO YOU GOT MAD, 405 00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:01,194 AND NOW HE'S DEAD. 406 00:16:01,228 --> 00:16:04,597 [light knock at door] 407 00:16:04,631 --> 00:16:07,267 SORRY, WE'RE NOT IN THE MARKET 408 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,102 FOR ANY T-SHIRTS RIGHT NOW. 409 00:16:09,136 --> 00:16:12,339 >> MR. CARPENTER SAYS HE'S MR. APPLEBAUM'S ATTORNEY. 410 00:16:12,372 --> 00:16:14,174 >> I AM AN ATTORNEY. 411 00:16:14,207 --> 00:16:15,408 MOSTLY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, 412 00:16:15,442 --> 00:16:16,543 BUT JONAH'S COUSIN TOLD ME YOU TOOK HIM IN-- 413 00:16:16,576 --> 00:16:19,479 >> THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO PACO. >> JONAH, STOP TALKING. 414 00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:21,214 DON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE. 415 00:16:21,248 --> 00:16:22,349 IS HE UNDER ARREST? 416 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:24,617 >> NO. 417 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:25,685 >> THEN WE'RE LEAVING. 418 00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:39,032 >> WELL, HE LIED ABOUT THE STOLEN SKATES. 419 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:40,533 HE'S GOT MOTIVE. 420 00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:42,435 >> WELL, DOES HE GAVE A PDA 421 00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:45,205 WITH A PICTURE OF THE NUMBER 3-7-7 ON IT? 422 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:46,639 >> LET'S GO LOOK. 423 00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:51,111 HE KEEPS HIS STUFF AT THE WAREHOUSE. 424 00:16:51,144 --> 00:16:52,479 >> CHECK THIS OUT. 425 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,647 "APPLEBAUM LEAPS FOR GLORY. 426 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:56,616 "SOPHOMORE PHENOM JONAH APPLEBAUM 427 00:16:56,649 --> 00:16:59,586 CLEARS 18 FEET FOR A NEW CONFERENCE RECORD." 428 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:02,122 >> HE HAD A LIFE ONCE. 429 00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:07,127 A FUTURE. 430 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,297 >> THE KGB AND MIND CONTROL. 431 00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:13,266 THIS IS WHAT HIS LIFE'S ABOUT NOW. 432 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:14,534 AND THIS. 433 00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:16,569 >> WHAT? 434 00:17:20,207 --> 00:17:21,508 >> DRIED BLOOD. 435 00:17:25,212 --> 00:17:26,179 >> HEY. 436 00:17:26,213 --> 00:17:27,214 JONAH. 437 00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,316 WE HAVE A WARRANT FOR YOUR ARREST, ALL RIGHT? 438 00:17:29,349 --> 00:17:31,251 OH, GOD. OH, GOD. 439 00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:33,553 JONAH, STOP! 440 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:36,323 GET HIM THAT WAY, LUPO! 441 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:41,328 GET HIM, CYRUS! GO GET HIM! GET HIM, CYRUS! GET HIM! 442 00:17:41,361 --> 00:17:42,362 GO, GO, GO, GO! 443 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:43,396 >> JONAH! 444 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:46,699 JONAH, STOP! 445 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,435 >> OW. 446 00:17:48,468 --> 00:17:49,669 >> COME ON. >> STAND UP. 447 00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:50,537 >> GET UP! 448 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:54,207 >> PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK. 449 00:17:54,241 --> 00:17:56,343 GOTTA LOOK BOTH WAYS, MAN. 450 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:02,215 >> CASE NUMBER 16352, 451 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:03,516 PEOPLE VERSUS JONAH APPLEBAUM. 452 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:05,285 THREE COUNTS OF MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 453 00:18:05,318 --> 00:18:06,653 >> PLEA. 454 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:09,122 >> YOUR HONOR, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A 730 EXAM. 455 00:18:09,156 --> 00:18:11,791 >> I WANT TO PLEAD NOT GUILTY. 456 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:12,892 >> I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE 457 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,894 WHAT YOUR ATTORNEY HAS IN MIND, SIR. 458 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:17,764 >> NO, NOT NOT GUILTY ON ACCOUNT I'M CRAZY. 459 00:18:17,797 --> 00:18:19,699 NOT GUILTY ON ACCOUNT I DIDN'T DO IT. 460 00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,634 >> LET'S JUST CALL IT NOT GUILTY 461 00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:23,270 AND SPLIT HAIRS LATER. 462 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:24,537 >> PEOPLE REQUEST REMAND. 463 00:18:24,571 --> 00:18:26,473 MR. APPLEBAUM HAS NO FIXED ADDRESS-- 464 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:28,575 >> AND IS POSSIBLY SCHIZOPHRENIC. 465 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:30,177 SEND HIM TO RIKERS. 466 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:32,245 THE INTAKE UNIT CAN EVALUATE HIM. 467 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:33,580 [pounds gavel] 468 00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:40,153 >> EXCUSE ME. THIS IS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE. 469 00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:41,554 >> AND YOU ARE? 470 00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:43,423 >> GRANT AND BOB CARPENTER. 471 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:44,591 WE'RE IN BUSINESS WITH JONAH, 472 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:45,892 AND WE'RE HIS FRIENDS. 473 00:18:45,925 --> 00:18:48,561 >> THE KNIFE HE USED TO CARVE HIS VICTIMS 474 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:50,330 WAS FOUND IN YOUR WAREHOUSE. 475 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,365 >> IN ONE OF HIS BOXES, RIGHT? 476 00:18:52,399 --> 00:18:53,600 >> UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, 477 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,735 ALL THAT STUFF WAS AT HIS COUSIN'S PLACE. 478 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:57,270 THE MORNING AFTER THE MURDERS, 479 00:18:57,304 --> 00:18:59,572 HER BOYFRIEND BROUGHT SOME BOXES OVER. 480 00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:00,840 BUT THAT BOYFRIEND, CAL, 481 00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:02,275 DOESN'T LIKE JONAH. 482 00:19:02,309 --> 00:19:03,876 I DON'T THINK HE'D MIND GETTING RID OF HIM 483 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:08,815 ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 484 00:19:08,848 --> 00:19:10,650 >> THANKS. 485 00:19:10,683 --> 00:19:13,786 >> JONAH TOOK SOME OF HIS THINGS OUT OF MY PLACE LAST MONTH. 486 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:16,323 WE'VE BEEN MOVING THE REST BIT BY BIT. 487 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:18,658 >> INCLUDING SOME THE MORNING AFTER THE MURDERS. 488 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:20,593 >> YEAH, CAL TOOK SOME STUFF OVER. 489 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:24,297 HE WANTS TO MAKE ROOM FOR A DRUM SET. 490 00:19:24,331 --> 00:19:27,534 >> WAS THIS KNIFE IN ONE OF THOSE BOXES? 491 00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:32,539 >> I DON'T KNOW. 492 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:33,740 >> YOU CAN'T JUST THINK ABOUT 493 00:19:33,773 --> 00:19:35,542 PROTECTING YOUR COUSIN, MS. NELSON. 494 00:19:35,575 --> 00:19:37,744 YOU'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. 495 00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:41,514 >> IT'S JONAH'S. 496 00:19:41,548 --> 00:19:43,383 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HE'D HURT ANYBODY. 497 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:46,486 >> THAT KNIFE WAS FOUND IN ONE OF JONAH'S BOXES. 498 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:48,821 NOW, SOMEONE WHO HAD ACCESS TO THAT BOX IS THE KILLER, 499 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:51,458 AND IF IT'S NOT JONAH... 500 00:19:51,491 --> 00:19:55,262 >> WHAT, CAL? 501 00:19:55,295 --> 00:19:58,465 >> WE REALIZE THIS IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION. 502 00:19:58,498 --> 00:19:59,499 DOES YOUR BOYFRIEND KNOW 503 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:00,733 YOU STAND TO INHERIT 504 00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:02,602 JONAH'S MERCHANDISE ROYALTIES? 505 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:05,438 >> I GUESS. 506 00:20:05,472 --> 00:20:06,606 I--I DON'T KNOW. 507 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:15,315 WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? 508 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:16,483 >> HEY, THAT'S MY STUFF IN THERE. 509 00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:18,485 I THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT JONAH'S. 510 00:20:18,518 --> 00:20:19,586 >> WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW HIS STUFF 511 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:20,853 ISN'T MIXED IN WITH YOURS? 512 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,822 >> BECAUSE MINE DOESN'T SMELL LIKE DOG CRAP. 513 00:20:22,855 --> 00:20:24,424 >> DID YOU TAKE BOXES OVER TO THE WAREHOUSE 514 00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:25,425 THE MORNING AFTER THE MURDERS? 515 00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:26,526 >> YEAH. 516 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,361 JONAH HAS MORE ROOM OVER THERE 517 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:29,662 THAN WE DO HERE. 518 00:20:29,696 --> 00:20:31,531 HE SAID THANK YOU AND PUT 'EM AWAY. 519 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,267 >> WAIT--HE WAS THERE? HOW DID HE ACT? 520 00:20:34,301 --> 00:20:35,502 >> YOU KNOW, SAME AS USUAL. 521 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:37,470 KGB OUT TO KILL HIM. 522 00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:39,572 HE WAS JUST WAITING FOR GRANT AND BOB. 523 00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:40,740 THEY HAD A BIG PHOTO SHOOT 524 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:42,642 SET FOR 9:00 A.M. 525 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:46,446 JONAH WAS THERE IN HIS SHINIEST SPANDEX, 526 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,348 BUT HIS PARTNERS AND THE PHOTOGRAPHER 527 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,416 NEVER SHOWED UP. 528 00:20:49,449 --> 00:20:51,884 >> YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? 529 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:54,587 >> THAT'S A KNIFE SHEATH. 530 00:20:54,621 --> 00:20:55,622 THAT PILE IS JUNK. 531 00:20:55,655 --> 00:20:58,491 >> IT'S RIPPED. NOT GOOD FOR MUCH. 532 00:20:58,525 --> 00:21:00,560 >> JONAH LEFT IT. 533 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,595 I'VE BEEN MEANING TO THROW THAT WHOLE PILE OUT. 534 00:21:02,629 --> 00:21:06,065 >> I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT FOR YOU. 535 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,700 >> WHY DIDN'T SOMEBODY RUN IT BY ME? 536 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:10,370 THIS SOMETHING I KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW. 537 00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:14,541 >> MY FINAL CAMPAIGN FUNDRAISER 538 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,509 IS AT BARONA'S, 539 00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:19,078 WHICH THE ORGANIZERS JUST DISCOVERED 540 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:22,582 IS OWNED BY A MAN WHO DID 20 YEARS FOR RACKETEERING. 541 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:27,854 SO...YOU HAVE A PSYCHOTIC ROLLER SKATER, AND--? 542 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:29,021 >> THE QUESTION IS 543 00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:31,824 WHO HAD ACCESS TO A KNIFE USED TO MUTILATE THE BODIES? 544 00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:34,794 THE SKATER, OR THE SKATER'S COUSIN'S BOYFRIEND, OR-- 545 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:37,364 [phone rings] >> HOLD ON. 546 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:40,467 YES? 547 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,934 AREN'T HALF THE RESTAURANTS IN TOWN 548 00:21:41,968 --> 00:21:43,102 GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? 549 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:46,439 JUST CHECK. 550 00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:49,342 >> MAYBE WE SHOULD COME BACK AFTER THE ELECTION. 551 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:51,043 >> YOU LEFT OUT THE PARTNERS. 552 00:21:51,077 --> 00:21:52,679 >> THE PARTNERS? 553 00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:55,047 >> WASN'T THE KNIFE FOUND IN THEIR WAREHOUSE? 554 00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:57,417 >> THEY'RE THE ONES WHO POINTED US TO THE COUSIN. 555 00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:59,051 >> WELL, THAT WAS FRIENDLY. 556 00:21:59,085 --> 00:22:00,620 >> THE COUSIN'S BOYFRIEND SAID 557 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,689 THAT THE SKATER SHOWED UP FOR SOME BIG PHOTO SHOOT 558 00:22:02,722 --> 00:22:03,523 THE MORNING AFTER THE MURDER. 559 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:04,824 THE PARTNERS DIDN'T. 560 00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:07,093 >> MAYBE THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO GET OUT OF BED 561 00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:08,695 BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY'D KILLED HIM. 562 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,062 [phone rings] 563 00:22:10,096 --> 00:22:12,732 WHAT? 564 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:14,567 YES. 565 00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:19,105 CHINESE FOOD IS FINE. 566 00:22:19,138 --> 00:22:21,441 >> AND TWO DAYS BEFORE THE PHOTO SHOOT, 567 00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:23,142 THEY TRIED TO CANCEL THE CHINA SHIPMENT. 568 00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,577 IT WAS A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS 569 00:22:24,611 --> 00:22:25,845 IN BIPOLAR ROLLER CLOTHING, 570 00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:27,680 BUT IT WAS ALREADY ON A BOAT. 571 00:22:27,714 --> 00:22:29,382 >> THAT'S A LOT OF T-SHIRTS. 572 00:22:29,416 --> 00:22:31,518 >> NO, BUT IT WAS THEIR BIG EXPANSION. 573 00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,653 THEY PUT EVERY LAST CENT THEY HAD INTO IT. 574 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,922 >> SO WHY'D THEY TRY TO CANCEL? 575 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:39,158 WHY'D THEY WANNA BE OUT OF THE JONAH APPLEBAUM BUSINESS? 576 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:41,060 >> THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT WE COULD ASK. 577 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:46,699 >> WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN MR. APPLEBAUM TODAY. 578 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:50,069 WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT GRANT AND BOB CARPENTER. 579 00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:51,804 >> WHY? 580 00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:54,106 >> DID THEY HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR STORAGE AREA 581 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:56,909 IN THE WAREHOUSE? 582 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,911 >> THEY'RE MY PARTNERS. 583 00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:00,980 >> DID YOU KNOW THEY TRIED TO SHUT DOWN 584 00:23:01,013 --> 00:23:02,615 THE ENTIRE CLOTHING BUSINESS 585 00:23:02,649 --> 00:23:04,651 A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS? 586 00:23:04,684 --> 00:23:08,488 >> THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT. 587 00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:10,823 WE NEED IT. 588 00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:13,593 >> WHAT DO YOU NEED IT FOR? 589 00:23:13,626 --> 00:23:15,595 >> THAT'S OPERATIONAL. 590 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,430 I DON'T THINK YOU'RE CLEARED. 591 00:23:17,464 --> 00:23:19,766 >> CLEARED? 592 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:23,035 ARE YOU INVOLVED IN A GOVERNMENT OPERATION, 593 00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:24,571 MR. APPLEBAUM? 594 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:25,805 >> [laughs] 595 00:23:25,838 --> 00:23:27,574 NO. 596 00:23:27,607 --> 00:23:30,142 NO. IT'S A T-SHIRT BUSINESS. 597 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:32,044 >> WE WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT, TOO, YOU KNOW. 598 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:37,083 >> YEAH, WELL, THERE'S THE GOVERNMENT, AND... 599 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:39,185 THEN THERE'S THE GOVERNMENT. 600 00:23:39,218 --> 00:23:42,455 >> AH, SO YOU AND WE, 601 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:45,525 WE--WE DON'T WORK FOR THE SAME PART? 602 00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:47,193 BUT GRANT AND BOB, 603 00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:48,661 THEY WORK FOR YOUR PART, 604 00:23:48,695 --> 00:23:50,196 SO THEY HAVE CLEARANCE? 605 00:23:50,229 --> 00:23:51,197 >> OBVIOUSLY. 606 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:55,735 >> SO THEY KNOW YOUR STORAGE LOCK COMBINATION, 607 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:58,104 AND THEY KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT? 608 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,807 >> IT'S A NEED-TO-KNOW BASIS. 609 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,210 THEY NEED TO KNOW. 610 00:24:04,243 --> 00:24:05,144 >> THIS IS HARASSMENT, 611 00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:07,079 BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU JONAH WAS INNOCENT. 612 00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:09,849 >> WELL, THEN WE WON'T FIND ANYTHING, WILL WE? 613 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:11,718 >> DID YOU EVER GO INTO JONAH'S STORAGE AREA? 614 00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:13,686 >> NO, HE'D KILL US. 615 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,788 THAT'S HYPERBOLE. 616 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:17,524 >> JONAH WAS SURPRISED TO FIND OUT 617 00:24:17,557 --> 00:24:19,526 THAT YOU TRIED TO CANCEL YOUR BIG CHINA ORDER. 618 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,629 >> WE FOUND A CHEAPER SUPPLIER IN CAMBODIA. 619 00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:24,831 >> WHERE IN CAMBODIA? 620 00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:27,934 >> SOUTH CAMBODIA. 621 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:28,935 [closes drawer] 622 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:30,703 >> EXCUSE ME. 623 00:24:30,737 --> 00:24:31,971 >> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, ANYWAY? 624 00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:33,706 >> OH, YOU NEVER KNOW. YOU KNOW? 625 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:35,875 >> IT'S GETTING LATE. I GOTTA CALL MY WIFE. 626 00:24:35,908 --> 00:24:39,211 HEY, CAN I BORROW YOUR CELL PHONE? 627 00:24:39,245 --> 00:24:40,913 IT HAS THE INTERNET, RIGHT? 628 00:24:40,947 --> 00:24:42,582 >> HEY, CAN YOU DO THAT? 629 00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:43,583 >> OFFICE EQUIPMENT. 630 00:24:43,616 --> 00:24:44,684 READ THE WARRANT. 631 00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:45,652 >> WELL, LOOK AT THIS. 632 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:49,689 IT HAS A LINK TO A SERIAL KILLER FAN SITE. 633 00:24:49,722 --> 00:24:51,791 LOOK WHAT'S BOOKMARKED. 634 00:24:56,963 --> 00:25:00,232 YOU A BIG FAN OF THE BOXCAR BASHER? 635 00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:06,773 >> I WANT A LAWYER. 636 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:12,311 A REAL LAWYER. 637 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,714 >> THE GIRLFRIEND OF THE HOMELESS MAN 638 00:25:14,747 --> 00:25:16,816 WHO WANDERED ONTO THE SCENE AND GOT KILLED 639 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:19,251 PICKED MR. CARPENTER OUT OF A PHOTO ARRAY. 640 00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:22,088 >> THIS WOULD BE THE INSANE, HOMELESS GIRLFRIEND 641 00:25:22,121 --> 00:25:24,156 WHO WAS 50 FEET AWAY IN THE DARK. 642 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:26,225 >> GRANT CARPENTER, THE OTHER BROTHER, 643 00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:27,960 USED THE GPS IN HIS CAR 644 00:25:27,994 --> 00:25:29,662 TO GET TO RANDALL'S ISLAND, 645 00:25:29,696 --> 00:25:30,763 THE MURDER SITE, 646 00:25:30,797 --> 00:25:32,732 A HALF HOUR BEFORE THE MURDERS. 647 00:25:32,765 --> 00:25:33,600 THEY'RE GOOD FOR IT, JACK. 648 00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:35,201 >> THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE KILLING JONAH, 649 00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:36,202 AND WHEN THAT DIDN'T WORK, 650 00:25:36,235 --> 00:25:37,203 THEY FIGURED SECOND BEST 651 00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:39,238 WAS FRAMING HIM FOR THE MURDERS. 652 00:25:39,271 --> 00:25:40,807 >> IF THEY WANTED TO FRAME HIM, 653 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,808 WHY DID THEY POINT YOU 654 00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:43,643 TOWARD THE COUSIN'S BOYFRIEND? 655 00:25:43,676 --> 00:25:45,311 >> WELL, THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND. 656 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:46,412 IT'S GOTTA BE BAD FOR BUSINESS 657 00:25:46,445 --> 00:25:49,281 HAVING YOUR FRONTMAN CONVICTED OF A TRIPLE MURDER. 658 00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:51,584 >> OR ONE OF THEM CHANGED HIS MIND. 659 00:25:51,618 --> 00:25:53,720 GRANT WAS THE ONE WHO POINTED ME TO THE BOYFRIEND, 660 00:25:53,753 --> 00:25:55,822 AND BOB IS AS DUMB AS A SACK OF HAIR. 661 00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:57,890 "SOUTH CAMBODIA"? 662 00:25:57,924 --> 00:26:00,693 >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE BIPOLAR ROLLER? 663 00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:02,028 >> WE DROPPED OUR OPPOSITION TO BAIL, 664 00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:03,863 AND HIS BROTHER IN CALIFORNIA POSTED BOND. 665 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:07,199 >> FAX FROM FORENSICS FOR YOU. 666 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:14,006 SKATER POSTED BOND? HE'S OUT? 667 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,908 >> COUPLE HOURS AGO. WHY? 668 00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,811 >> THAT OLD KNIFE SHEATH OF HIS THE POLICE FOUND, 669 00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:21,814 IT HAD NO CONNECTION TO THE CURRENT MURDERS, 670 00:26:21,848 --> 00:26:23,783 BUT IT HAD DNA INSIDE 671 00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:27,720 THAT MATCHES FIVE OF THE SERIAL KILLER'S 672 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:29,956 PREVIOUS VICTIMS. 673 00:26:32,058 --> 00:26:35,294 >> JONAH APPLEBAUM IS THE BOXCAR BASHER? 674 00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:36,929 >> YOU JUST PUT AN INSANE SERIAL KILLER 675 00:26:36,963 --> 00:26:38,064 BACK ON THE STREET. 676 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,132 >> HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT. 677 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:41,634 WE CAN STILL PICK HIM UP. 678 00:26:41,668 --> 00:26:42,601 >> YOU'D DAMN WELL BETTER. 679 00:26:42,635 --> 00:26:44,303 THIS COULD BE WILLIE HORTON ALL OVER AGAIN. 680 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:45,805 >> WILLIE HORTON? 681 00:26:45,838 --> 00:26:47,707 YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE ELECTION, ARE YOU? 682 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:50,242 >> I'M WORRIED ABOUT EVERYTHING-- 683 00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:52,311 ABOUT HIM KILLING SOMEONE ELSE, 684 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:55,147 ABOUT THE WAY THIS OFFICE IS RUN. 685 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,983 A SERIAL KILLER IN OUR HANDS 686 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:57,984 AND THEN RELEASED. 687 00:26:58,017 --> 00:27:00,720 AM I BEING TOO PICKY? 688 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:19,205 >> THERE HE IS. 689 00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,741 >> THAT'S OUR BOY. 690 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:27,379 [disco music playing] 691 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:30,449 * 692 00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:33,953 >> MOVE IN. 693 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:35,788 >> JONAH! YOU'RE UNDER ARREST! 694 00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:37,023 ON THE GROUND! NOW! 695 00:27:42,061 --> 00:27:45,031 JONAH, STOP! 696 00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:49,301 DON'T SHOOT! DON'T SHOOT. 697 00:27:49,335 --> 00:27:51,771 [grunting] 698 00:27:51,804 --> 00:27:53,906 >> THAT'S THE LAST TIME I WANNA DO THAT. 699 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:55,241 >> [laughing] 700 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:57,710 >> COME ON. GET UP. 701 00:27:57,744 --> 00:27:59,912 GET UP. >> WHOO! 702 00:28:06,485 --> 00:28:08,187 >> YOU WANT TO DISMISS THE CHARGES? 703 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,089 >> YES, FOR THE MURDERS HERE, 704 00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:11,924 BUT WE ARE HOLDING HIM FOR A MURDER IN BUFFALO 705 00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:13,425 IN 2006. 706 00:28:13,459 --> 00:28:16,162 MR. APPLEBAUM IS ALSO THE SUSPECT 707 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:17,163 IN EIGHT OTHER MURDERS. 708 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:18,731 >> BUT NOT THE THREE 709 00:28:18,765 --> 00:28:19,766 HE WAS CHARGED WITH THE OTHER DAY? 710 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,233 >> NO, NOT THOSE. 711 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:25,137 >> I GUESS I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY MYSELF A SCORECARD. 712 00:28:25,171 --> 00:28:26,906 ALL RIGHT, THE CHARGES ARE DISMISSED. 713 00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:28,474 WE'RE GONNA KEEP MR. APPLEBAUM 714 00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:30,442 IN A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT. 715 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:31,443 [pounds gavel] 716 00:28:31,477 --> 00:28:32,644 >> CASE NUMBER 16353, 717 00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:35,147 PEOPLE VERSUS GRANT CARPENTER AND ROBERT CARPENTER, 718 00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:38,284 THREE COUNTS OF MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE. 719 00:28:38,317 --> 00:28:39,752 >> THESE ARE THE THREE MURDERS 720 00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:41,220 THE OTHER GENTLEMAN DIDN'T COMMIT? 721 00:28:41,253 --> 00:28:42,454 >> THAT'S RIGHT, YOUR HONOR. 722 00:28:42,488 --> 00:28:43,756 THE PEOPLE ARE NOW CONVINCED 723 00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:44,891 THAT THESE ARE THE GUILTY PARTIES 724 00:28:44,924 --> 00:28:46,092 IN THOSE CRIMES. 725 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:48,227 >> WHICH ARE IDENTICAL TO THE NINE MURDERS 726 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:49,896 MR. APPLEBAUM COMMITTED. 727 00:28:49,929 --> 00:28:52,031 >> THE DEFENDANTS SOUGHT TO ELUDE DETECTION 728 00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,399 BY COPYING HIS PATTERN. 729 00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:55,167 MR. APPLEBAUM WILL BE OUR WITNESS. 730 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:57,403 >> A WITNESS WHO COMMITTED NINE MURDERS 731 00:28:57,436 --> 00:28:59,806 IDENTICAL TO THE ONES CHARGED HERE? 732 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:01,540 >> I REST MY CASE, YOUR HONOR. 733 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,142 >> GOOD LUCK, LADY. 734 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,817 >> I AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS MY MISSIONS. 735 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:12,785 >> YOUR MISSIONS, JONAH, 736 00:29:12,819 --> 00:29:14,553 DO THEY EVER INVOLVE KILLING PEOPLE? 737 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:17,289 >> WHAT PART OF "I AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS IT" 738 00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:18,858 DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? 739 00:29:18,891 --> 00:29:21,360 >> YOU'VE TOLD YOUR FRIENDS 740 00:29:21,393 --> 00:29:25,231 THAT THE KGB TRIED TO KILL YOU. 741 00:29:25,264 --> 00:29:27,800 >> BUT I'M STILL HERE. 742 00:29:27,834 --> 00:29:29,268 >> THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU 743 00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:31,537 TO COMPETE IN THE OLYMPICS, DID THEY? 744 00:29:31,570 --> 00:29:33,439 >> NO. 745 00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:37,810 THEY SENT A DOCTOR TO THE HOSPITAL 746 00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:42,181 AFTER MY CAR CRASH. 747 00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:44,116 MY BROKEN ARM 748 00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:45,852 COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED. 749 00:29:45,885 --> 00:29:50,122 >> WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU? 750 00:29:50,156 --> 00:29:52,524 "AS I WAS PROPHESYING, 751 00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:54,526 "THERE WAS A NOISE, A RATTLING SOUND, 752 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,362 "AND THE BONES CAME TOGETHER, 753 00:29:56,395 --> 00:29:58,130 BONE TO BONE." 754 00:29:58,164 --> 00:30:00,266 >> JUST WHAT IT SAYS. 755 00:30:00,299 --> 00:30:02,101 BONES CAN BE... 756 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:03,535 PUT BACK TOGETHER. 757 00:30:03,569 --> 00:30:05,437 >> INCLUDING YOUR ARM? 758 00:30:05,471 --> 00:30:07,206 >> IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. 759 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:09,876 IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY. 760 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:11,343 >> YOUR MISSIONS? 761 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:15,915 BOB AND GRANT, 762 00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:18,217 DID THEY KNOW ABOUT YOUR MISSIONS? 763 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,186 >> OF COURSE. 764 00:30:20,219 --> 00:30:21,487 THEY WERE MY HANDLERS. 765 00:30:25,257 --> 00:30:28,527 I--I THOUGHT THEY WERE. 766 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,897 >> HE'S A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC, 767 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:32,965 AND HE INCORPORATED BOB AND GRANT 768 00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:34,033 INTO HIS DELUSION. 769 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:36,502 >> THAT HE'S KILLING RUSSIAN SPIES 770 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:38,270 TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY? 771 00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:39,271 >> YES. 772 00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:41,173 RUSSIA DECLARED WAR ON HIM 773 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:42,942 WHEN THEY DESTROYED HIS OLYMPIC CAREER, 774 00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:44,010 SO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT 775 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,545 THOUGHT HE WOULD BE THE PERFECT MAN FOR THE JOB. 776 00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:48,114 EVERY TIME HE KILLS A RUSSIAN, 777 00:30:48,147 --> 00:30:50,249 HE ENGRAVES THE BIBLE VERSE 778 00:30:50,282 --> 00:30:51,617 SO THEY KNOW WHO DID IT. 779 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:53,519 >> WHERE DO GRANT AND BOB FIT IN? 780 00:30:53,552 --> 00:30:54,453 >> THEY APPROACHED HIM 781 00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:56,288 WITH THEIR IDEA FOR THE CLOTHING BUSINESS, 782 00:30:56,322 --> 00:30:57,990 WHICH HE OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT WAS RIDICULOUS. 783 00:30:58,024 --> 00:30:59,992 >> SO HE'S NOT COMPLETELY CRAZY. 784 00:31:00,026 --> 00:31:02,361 >> HE BELIEVED IT WAS A COVER. 785 00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:05,464 BOB AND GRANT WOULD GUIDE HIM, 786 00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,099 PAY HIM, PROTECT HIM, 787 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:09,501 UNDER THE GUISE OF BEING IN BUSINESS WITH HIM. 788 00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,637 NOW HE BELIEVES THEY TRIED TO KILL HIM. 789 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:13,272 >> WE NEED TO JONAH TO TESTIFY 790 00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:14,373 TO GET ALL THIS IN. 791 00:31:14,406 --> 00:31:16,142 >> THE JURY WON'T BUY ANY OF THIS 792 00:31:16,175 --> 00:31:18,244 IF HE STARTS RANTING ABOUT THE KGB. 793 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:21,547 >> WHAT ABOUT ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUGS? 794 00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:22,949 >> THEY COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE, 795 00:31:22,982 --> 00:31:25,184 BUT HE REFUSES TO TAKE THEM. 796 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:26,953 WE CAN'T MAKE HIM 797 00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:29,121 UNLESS HE'S A THREAT TO HIMSELF OR OTHERS. 798 00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:30,923 >> WE NEED HIM. 799 00:31:30,957 --> 00:31:32,091 HE TAKES THE STAND. 800 00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:35,427 >> ARE YOU SURE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA? 801 00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:37,429 >> NO. 802 00:31:39,665 --> 00:31:40,967 >> THEY TRICKED ME. 803 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,068 THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE ON MY SIDE. 804 00:31:42,101 --> 00:31:44,270 >> WHAT SIDE IS THAT? 805 00:31:44,303 --> 00:31:46,105 >> I'VE, UH-- 806 00:31:46,138 --> 00:31:49,408 I'VE BEEN DOING MISSIONS FOR THE GOVERNMENT. 807 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:53,980 >> DID YOUR MISSIONS INVOLVE KILLING PEOPLE? 808 00:31:54,013 --> 00:31:56,482 >> I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO SAY. 809 00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:58,684 >> WE NEED THE TRUTH HERE, MR. APPLEBAUM. 810 00:31:58,717 --> 00:32:00,352 THE JURY NEEDS IT. 811 00:32:00,386 --> 00:32:03,990 TO DECIDE IF GRANT AND BOB CARPENTER 812 00:32:04,023 --> 00:32:05,624 ARE GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY. 813 00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:10,997 NOW, DID YOUR MISSIONS INVOLVE KILLING PEOPLE? 814 00:32:11,030 --> 00:32:12,031 >> YES. 815 00:32:12,064 --> 00:32:13,966 ENEMIES OF THIS COUNTRY. 816 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,702 I THOUGHT GRANT AND BOB CAME TO HELP ME. 817 00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:20,706 >> SO--SO YOU TOLD THEM ABOUT YOUR MISSIONS? 818 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:21,707 >> OF COURSE. 819 00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:25,077 >> AND HOW DID THEY REACT? 820 00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:27,546 >> THEY PRETENDED TO BE SURPRISED, 821 00:32:27,579 --> 00:32:28,547 TO GET UPSET. 822 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:30,449 THEY TRIED TO CONVINCE ME 823 00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:32,184 NOT TO DO ANY MORE MISSIONS. 824 00:32:32,218 --> 00:32:35,754 I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE JUST PLAYING A COVER. 825 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:39,558 NOW I REALIZE THAT THEY REALLY DID WANT ME TO STOP. 826 00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:41,660 BUT I WOULDN'T, OF COURSE. 827 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:44,096 I COULDN'T. 828 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:46,332 >> NOW, IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS 829 00:32:46,365 --> 00:32:47,666 OF YOUR FRIEND PACO 830 00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:49,535 AND THE OTHER TWO HOMELESS MEN, 831 00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:53,172 DID YOU EVER SEE GRANT AND BOB 832 00:32:53,205 --> 00:32:54,473 OUTSIDE THE OFFICE? 833 00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:56,408 >> YES, THEY WERE FOLLOWING ME. 834 00:32:56,442 --> 00:32:58,044 I SAW THEM NEAR MY CAMPSITE AT NIGHT. 835 00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,312 I THOUGHT THEY WERE THERE TO PROTECT ME FROM THE RUSSIANS. 836 00:33:00,346 --> 00:33:03,115 NOW I REALIZE YOU WERE GETTING READY TO KILL ME. 837 00:33:07,753 --> 00:33:11,190 >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 838 00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:12,791 >> SO... 839 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:14,593 YOU BELIEVE 840 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:17,029 THAT GRANT AND BOB CARPENTER 841 00:33:17,063 --> 00:33:18,630 WERE TRYING TO KILL YOU? 842 00:33:18,664 --> 00:33:23,135 >> THEY WANTED TO STOP MY MISSIONS. 843 00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:25,671 THEY WERE FOLLOWING ME. 844 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:27,106 >> WHEN YOU WERE 25 YEARS OLD, 845 00:33:27,139 --> 00:33:29,041 WERE YOU DIAGNOSED WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS? 846 00:33:29,075 --> 00:33:31,377 >> YES. IT WASN'T TRUE. 847 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:33,612 >> WHAT WAS THE FALSE DIAGNOSIS? 848 00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,147 >> SCHIZOPHRENIA, PARANOID TYPE. 849 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,648 IT WAS A LIE. 850 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:40,252 THEY--THEY HAD A RUSSIAN DOCTOR THERE. 851 00:33:40,286 --> 00:33:46,058 >> YOU'RE A DIAGNOSED PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC, 852 00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:47,659 AND YOU'RE TELLING US 853 00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,161 SOMEONE WAS FOLLOWING YOU? 854 00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:50,762 >> THEY WERE. 855 00:33:50,796 --> 00:33:52,464 >> THEY ALSO WANTED TO STOP YOUR MISSIONS. 856 00:33:52,498 --> 00:33:53,565 WHY WOULD THEY WANNA DO THAT? 857 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:54,766 >> OBJECTION. 858 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,368 THE WITNESS' THEORIES ARE NOT RELEVANT. 859 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,204 ONLY WHAT HE SAW AND HEARD. 860 00:33:58,237 --> 00:33:59,371 >> CONSIDERING HIS CONDITION, 861 00:33:59,405 --> 00:34:00,306 I THINK WE'RE ENTITLED TO KNOW 862 00:34:00,339 --> 00:34:02,074 HOW HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAW AND HEARD. 863 00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:03,075 >> OVERRULED. 864 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,211 THE WITNESS MAY ANSWER. 865 00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,315 >> THEY'RE AGENTS OF THE KGB. 866 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:10,616 >> [laughs] 867 00:34:10,649 --> 00:34:13,085 WAIT, THEY'RE RUSSIANS? 868 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,522 THEY DON'T SOUND LIKE RUSSIANS. 869 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:18,090 >> THERE'S A SECRET TOWN NEAR MOSCOW 870 00:34:18,124 --> 00:34:19,591 WHERE THE KGB ARE TRAINED. 871 00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:20,792 IT'S, LIKE, A LITTLE AMERICA, 872 00:34:20,826 --> 00:34:23,295 AND EVERYONE LEARNS PERFECT ENGLISH. 873 00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:25,231 >> SO THEY WERE TRAINED IN THIS SECRET TOWN, 874 00:34:25,264 --> 00:34:27,166 THEN CAME TO AMERICA? WHY? 875 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,668 >> TO--TO DESTROY OUR OLYMPIC ATHLETES, 876 00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:31,203 BY GIVING THEM ENERGY DRINKS 877 00:34:31,237 --> 00:34:34,773 THAT ARE LACED WITH TOXIC MERCURY ESSENCE. 878 00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:36,542 BUT I KNOW ABOUT YOU. I KNOW! 879 00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:39,345 >> MR. APPLEBAUM, CONTROL YOURSELF. 880 00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:41,813 >> THAT'S WHY YOU TRIED TO KILL ME, 881 00:34:41,847 --> 00:34:42,814 BUT I'M STILL HERE. 882 00:34:42,848 --> 00:34:44,550 I'M--I'M STILL HERE. 883 00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:46,485 AND I'M GONNA KEEP DOIN' WHAT I NEED TO DO. 884 00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:48,320 >> WHAT, ARE YOU GONNA KILL MORE RUSSIAN SPIES? 885 00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:49,555 >> SOMEBODY HAS TO. 886 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:51,223 POLICE GONNA DO IT? 887 00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:52,191 NO, POLICE WON'T DO IT. 888 00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:53,592 THE ARMY'S BEEN INFILTRATED. 889 00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:55,194 >> THAT'S ENOUGH. WE'RE DONE FOR THE DAY. 890 00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:56,262 >> I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. 891 00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:58,230 >> I--I HAVE REDIRECT, YOUR HONOR. 892 00:34:58,264 --> 00:35:00,199 >> FINE. FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING. 893 00:35:00,232 --> 00:35:01,533 >> YOU'RE FINISHED, COMRADES! 894 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:03,669 I KNOW ABOUT YOU. I KNOW ABOUT YOU. 895 00:35:03,702 --> 00:35:05,337 YOU UNDERSTAND? I KNOW WHAT'S GOIN' ON. 896 00:35:05,371 --> 00:35:08,507 [yelling incoherently] 897 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,176 YOU'RE FINISHED! YOU'RE DEAD MEN! 898 00:35:10,209 --> 00:35:13,111 DEAD! I KNOW ABOUT YOU. 899 00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:20,519 >> WELL, MAYBE PUTTING HIM ON THE STAND 900 00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:22,154 WASN'T SUCH A GOOD IDEA AFTER ALL. 901 00:35:22,188 --> 00:35:23,655 >> I HAVE REDIRECT ON MONDAY. 902 00:35:23,689 --> 00:35:25,457 I CAN TRY TO REHABILITATE HIM. 903 00:35:25,491 --> 00:35:28,194 >> THE ONLY WAY TO REHABILITATE HIM 904 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,296 IS TO GET SOME ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUGS IN HIM, 905 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:31,530 AND WE CAN'T DO THAT 906 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:34,633 UNLESS HE'S A THREAT TO HIMSELF OR OTHERS. 907 00:35:36,502 --> 00:35:39,238 >> OKAY. 908 00:35:39,271 --> 00:35:41,273 >> ISN'T HIS ATTORNEY SUPPOSED TO BE HERE 909 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:42,441 IF YOU ARE? 910 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:43,575 >> WE'RE NOT GONNA USE 911 00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:45,244 ANYTHING HE SAYS AGAINST HIM. 912 00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:48,347 >> WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK HIM? 913 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:49,815 >> NOTHING. [door buzzer] 914 00:35:49,848 --> 00:35:52,251 JUST WATCH. 915 00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:58,857 >> [laughs] 916 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:00,726 I TOLD 'EM, DIDN'T I? 917 00:36:00,759 --> 00:36:02,794 >> YES, YOU DID, JONAH. 918 00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:04,330 YOU TOLD THEM EVERYTHING. 919 00:36:04,363 --> 00:36:05,597 THAT WAS THE PLAN. 920 00:36:05,631 --> 00:36:07,633 >> THE PLAN? 921 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:10,269 >> WELL, WE NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR MISSIONS 922 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:12,204 SO THAT WE COULD NEUTRALIZE YOU 923 00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:14,340 AND THE REST OF OUR ENEMIES. 924 00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:19,511 >> YOUR ENEMIES? 925 00:36:19,545 --> 00:36:21,247 >> THE UNITED STATES, 926 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,248 FREEDOM, 927 00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:24,516 AMERICAN OLYMPIC ATHLETES. 928 00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:26,618 >> NO, BUT--UH, 929 00:36:26,652 --> 00:36:29,288 YOU--YOU'RE GOING AFTER GRANT AND BOB. 930 00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:30,756 YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN JAIL. 931 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:32,391 >> AH, THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD YOU. 932 00:36:32,424 --> 00:36:33,892 >> WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING? 933 00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:36,528 >> OH. OKAY. 934 00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:39,965 YOU MEAN YOU, GRANT, BOB-- 935 00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:42,268 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW THAT SECRET TOWN NEAR MOSCOW, 936 00:36:42,301 --> 00:36:43,269 THAT'S WHERE WE MET. 937 00:36:43,302 --> 00:36:44,002 HOW DO YOU LIKE MY ENGLISH? 938 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,737 >> STOP THIS. NOW. 939 00:36:45,771 --> 00:36:48,340 >> YOU'RE ONE OF THEM. 940 00:36:48,374 --> 00:36:49,375 >> WELL, WE ALL ARE. 941 00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:50,676 THE TRIAL'S A SHOW. 942 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:51,910 YOU COULD KILL A FEW OF US, 943 00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:54,280 BUT YOU COULD NEVER WIN. 944 00:36:54,313 --> 00:36:58,350 I MEAN, WE ARE WAY, WAY SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. 945 00:36:58,384 --> 00:37:02,020 IT WAS SO EASY TO BREAK YOUR ARM. 946 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:06,024 WE SHOULD HAVE BROKEN YOUR STUPID NECK. 947 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:11,597 [speaks Russian] 948 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:12,764 >> [grunts] 949 00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:13,765 I'LL KILL YOU! 950 00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:15,301 I'LL KILL YOU! 951 00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:17,636 AAH! 952 00:37:17,669 --> 00:37:20,539 I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU! 953 00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:24,009 AAH! AAH! 954 00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:26,478 LET ME GO! LET ME GO! 955 00:37:26,512 --> 00:37:27,946 I'LL KILL ALL OF YOU. 956 00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:30,749 >> DANGER TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS. 957 00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:34,320 >> I PROTECT YOU! [groans] 958 00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:39,525 >> DR. OLIVET CALLED. 959 00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:40,959 SHE WANTS YOU SUSPENDED 960 00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:42,494 OR CHARGED WITH ASSAULT. 961 00:37:42,528 --> 00:37:43,929 >> DID SHE GIVE HIM THE DRUGS? 962 00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:44,796 >> SHE HAD TO. 963 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:46,698 HE WAS TRYING TO BREAK OUT OF HIS CELL 964 00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:47,933 WITH HIS BARE HANDS. 965 00:37:47,966 --> 00:37:50,068 BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SEND HIM BACK TO COURT. 966 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,770 >> WELL, IT'S NOT UP TO HER. 967 00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:55,774 >> NO, IT'S UP TO ME. 968 00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:57,075 >> BECAUSE OF WHAT I DID, 969 00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:59,745 A SICK MAN IS GETTING MEDICATION HE NEEDS. 970 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:01,347 >> BUT THAT'S NOT WHY YOU DID IT. 971 00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:05,417 YOU DID IT FOR YOUR CASE. 972 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:07,319 >> WIN-WIN. 973 00:38:12,591 --> 00:38:14,092 MR. APPLEBAUM, 974 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,095 YOU TOLD US THE OTHER DAY 975 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:22,768 THAT THESE DEFENDANTS ARE RUSSIAN SPIES. 976 00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:29,441 ARE THEY? 977 00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:31,810 >> NO. 978 00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:33,812 I--I WASN'T THINKING-- 979 00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:35,113 I WASN'T THINKING RIGHT. 980 00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:37,983 I HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING RIGHT FOR A LONG TIME. 981 00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:42,087 NOW I REMEMBER THINGS... 982 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,892 UH, REALLY TERRIBLE, AWFUL THINGS. 983 00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:49,395 >> WHAT THINGS? 984 00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:52,063 >> I KILLED NINE PEOPLE. 985 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,132 NINE. 986 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,568 'CAUSE I THOUGHT-- 987 00:38:56,602 --> 00:38:59,405 I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD CAUSED MY ACCIDENT, 988 00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:00,839 I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE MY ENEMIES, 989 00:39:00,872 --> 00:39:05,844 AND--AND IT WASN'T TRUE, 990 00:39:05,877 --> 00:39:09,948 AND I'M SO... 991 00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:10,949 SO SORRY. 992 00:39:10,982 --> 00:39:12,384 >> DID YOU MURDER PACO 993 00:39:12,418 --> 00:39:14,386 AND THE OTHER TWO HOMELESS MEN AT THE CAMPSITE 994 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:15,587 ON RANDALL'S ISLAND? 995 00:39:15,621 --> 00:39:17,423 >> NO, I DIDN'T-- I DIDN'T DO THAT. 996 00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:18,824 NOT THEM. 997 00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,058 >> WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE YOU? 998 00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:22,561 YOU KILLED NINE OTHERS. 999 00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,095 >> PACO WAS MY FRIEND. 1000 00:39:24,129 --> 00:39:28,400 I NEVER THOUGHT HE WAS A RUSSIAN. 1001 00:39:28,434 --> 00:39:32,638 AND I WAS AFRAID TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE CAMPSITE, SO... 1002 00:39:32,671 --> 00:39:34,139 >> WHY IS THAT? 1003 00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:36,742 >> 'CAUSE PEOPLE WERE SPYING ON ME THERE. 1004 00:39:36,775 --> 00:39:40,145 THERE WERE--IT WAS NOT RUSSIANS, 1005 00:39:40,178 --> 00:39:40,946 BUT GRANT AND BOB. 1006 00:39:40,979 --> 00:39:44,516 THEY SAID THEY WERE PROTECTING ME, 1007 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:45,517 BUT THEY WEREN'T. 1008 00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:47,118 >> WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW? 1009 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,054 >> AFTER I TOLD THEM ABOUT MY MISSIONS, 1010 00:39:49,087 --> 00:39:50,422 THAT I WAS KILLING PEOPLE, 1011 00:39:50,456 --> 00:39:53,492 THEY WERE SO...SHOCKED 1012 00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:57,095 THAT THEY WERE AFRAID TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR ME, 1013 00:39:57,128 --> 00:40:00,666 AND THEN I OVERHEARD GRANT TELLING BOB 1014 00:40:00,699 --> 00:40:02,434 THAT THIS WAS GONNA RUIN THE BUSINESS 1015 00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:04,770 AND THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOME KINDA WAY OUT, 1016 00:40:04,803 --> 00:40:08,006 AND THEN I SAW THEM TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF MY LOCKER. 1017 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,542 LOOKED LIKE MY KNIFE, 1018 00:40:10,576 --> 00:40:13,879 AND THEY HAD THE COMBINATION. 1019 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:18,784 THEY HAD-- THEY HAD THE COMBINATION. 1020 00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,852 3-7-7. 1021 00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:27,593 I WISH YOU HAD JUST KILLED ME, 1022 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:31,530 BECAUSE WHAT I'VE--I'VE DONE, 1023 00:40:31,563 --> 00:40:35,867 WHAT I MIGHT PROBABLY DO AGAIN, 1024 00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:37,569 I CAN... 1025 00:40:39,871 --> 00:40:40,839 I ALREADY HAVE THESE-- 1026 00:40:40,872 --> 00:40:42,541 I CAN FEEL THE THOUGHTS 1027 00:40:42,574 --> 00:40:43,809 COMING BACK ALREADY, 1028 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:46,578 AND IT--IT'S LIKE THEY... 1029 00:40:50,816 --> 00:40:52,918 IT'S REALLY HARD TO EXPLAIN. 1030 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:58,590 IT'S HARD TO-- IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN. 1031 00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:07,165 I JUST... 1032 00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:08,500 I JUST WISH-- 1033 00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:10,001 I JUST WISH SOMEONE COULD HELP ME, 1034 00:41:10,035 --> 00:41:12,170 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 1035 00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:25,917 I-- 1036 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:32,824 I--I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 1037 00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:38,296 >> GRANT AND BOB CARPENTER ARE ASKING FOR A DEAL. 1038 00:41:38,329 --> 00:41:40,198 >> HOW'S MR. APPLEBAUM? 1039 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:41,567 >> WELL, HE'S MAINTAINING, 1040 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,868 AS LONG AS HE'S ON THE DRUGS, 1041 00:41:42,901 --> 00:41:45,103 BUT THEY MAKE HIM TOO LETHARGIC TO ROLLER SKATE. 1042 00:41:45,136 --> 00:41:46,538 >> I DON'T THINK BELLEVUE 1043 00:41:46,572 --> 00:41:49,541 IS STARTING A DERBY TEAM ANY TIME SOON. 1044 00:41:49,575 --> 00:41:52,878 >> YES? YES, I'M ON MY WAY. 1045 00:41:52,911 --> 00:41:55,146 FINAL FUNDRAISER. 1046 00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:58,984 CHINESE SEAFOOD RESTAURANT WITH A KOSHER SECTION. 1047 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:00,786 MOCK SHRIMP. 1048 00:42:00,819 --> 00:42:02,287 >> IF YOU DON'T WIN, JACK, I'M OUT OF HERE. 1049 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,022 INTO PRIVATE PRACTICE. 1050 00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:05,591 >> I'LL JOIN YOU. 1051 00:42:05,624 --> 00:42:07,092 McCOY AND RUBIROSA-- 1052 00:42:07,125 --> 00:42:08,293 NO CLIENT TOO GUILTY. 1053 00:42:08,326 --> 00:42:10,962 >> RUBIROSA AND McCOY. 1054 00:42:10,996 --> 00:42:12,698 >> CAN'T I COME, TOO? 1055 00:42:12,731 --> 00:42:16,602 >> SOMEONE HAS TO WATCH THE STORE. 1056 00:42:17,736 --> 00:42:20,606 >> [laughs] 1057 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,642 Captioning by CaptionMax www.captionmax.com