1 00:00:01,135 --> 00:00:02,803 (male narrator) In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:05,206 the people are represented by two separate, 3 00:00:05,239 --> 00:00:06,807 yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,776 the police who investigate crime 5 00:00:08,809 --> 00:00:12,046 and the District Attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,182 These are their stories. 7 00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:15,549 Damn, Mo. Hurry your ass up. 8 00:00:15,583 --> 00:00:16,817 You sure we're not gonna get busted? 9 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:18,519 Man, stop crying. You sound like a girl. 10 00:00:18,552 --> 00:00:19,820 I ain't no girl. 11 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:21,655 Well, you ain't no man. You never got no play. 12 00:00:21,689 --> 00:00:23,091 You neither. Did so. 13 00:00:23,124 --> 00:00:24,792 Denise, Marisela, Rashel. 14 00:00:24,825 --> 00:00:26,394 I tapped all them shorties. 15 00:00:26,427 --> 00:00:27,661 Yeah, right. 16 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:29,497 Took 'em home and showed 'em my nine mil-- 17 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:33,701 Yo. Hold up. 18 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:35,136 Where's the dude? 19 00:00:35,169 --> 00:00:37,538 Hey, yo. Yo, Calvin. 20 00:00:37,571 --> 00:00:40,674 Oh. 21 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:44,678 Yo. 22 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:47,047 Hey, you all right? 23 00:00:52,186 --> 00:00:53,787 Yo, what do we do? 24 00:00:56,324 --> 00:00:57,591 (Green) Victim got a name yet? 25 00:00:57,625 --> 00:00:59,127 From the vendor's license on the cart. 26 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,161 Samuel Register, 68. 27 00:01:00,194 --> 00:01:02,430 Looks like multiple stab wounds to the chest. 28 00:01:02,463 --> 00:01:04,232 He's pretty fresh. 29 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:07,835 Maybe, two hours. Around 6:00, 6:30. 30 00:01:07,868 --> 00:01:09,170 How many times he been stabbed? 31 00:01:09,203 --> 00:01:10,704 Nine obvious wounds. 32 00:01:10,738 --> 00:01:12,740 Might find more when we get him on the table. 33 00:01:15,376 --> 00:01:16,344 No wallet, no money. 34 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:18,346 Robbery gone bad? No. 35 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:21,182 If he was stabbed once or twice, that would be a robbery. 36 00:01:21,215 --> 00:01:22,816 Nine times... 37 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:24,084 that's personal. 38 00:02:14,302 --> 00:02:16,404 48 years. 39 00:02:16,437 --> 00:02:18,439 [sobbing] 40 00:02:18,472 --> 00:02:19,507 And he still called me 41 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:23,277 his beautiful bride. 42 00:02:23,311 --> 00:02:25,646 I know this is hard, Mrs. Register, 43 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:28,682 but did your husband have any problems? 44 00:02:28,716 --> 00:02:31,385 Maybe owed somebody? 45 00:02:31,419 --> 00:02:35,256 Sam was a good man. 46 00:02:35,289 --> 00:02:37,425 He didn't drink or--or gamble. 47 00:02:37,458 --> 00:02:40,328 He--he helped people. 48 00:02:40,361 --> 00:02:44,332 So you can't think of anyone that would wanna hurt him? 49 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:46,567 There were people who thought maybe Sam was too good. 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,602 (Green) Which people exactly? 51 00:02:48,636 --> 00:02:51,205 People around here. 52 00:02:51,239 --> 00:02:56,910 "Somebody has to stop them from acting like fools," he'd say. 53 00:02:56,944 --> 00:03:00,581 If he saw a boy with his pants hanging low, 54 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:03,417 he'd tell the boy to pull his damn pants up. 55 00:03:03,451 --> 00:03:05,719 If he saw them breaking windows, breaking the law, 56 00:03:05,753 --> 00:03:07,421 he would call the police. 57 00:03:07,455 --> 00:03:08,856 Do you have any names? 58 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:11,459 I mean, any of those people that may have had a grudge 59 00:03:11,492 --> 00:03:12,660 against your husband? 60 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:14,362 Their names are all made-up anyhow. 61 00:03:14,395 --> 00:03:19,600 Just walk around the block and take your pick. 62 00:03:19,633 --> 00:03:21,502 [cell phone rings] 63 00:03:21,535 --> 00:03:22,570 Excuse me. 64 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:23,971 [sobs] 65 00:03:24,004 --> 00:03:25,806 Fontana. 66 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:29,343 Okay, we're on our way. 67 00:03:29,377 --> 00:03:33,381 Uh, thank you for your time, Mrs. Register. 68 00:03:33,414 --> 00:03:36,950 We'll be in contact, all right? 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,621 (man) A black girl. 70 00:03:40,654 --> 00:03:41,622 I was out here 71 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:42,623 when she ran past. 72 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:43,957 She had blood on her shirt. 73 00:03:43,991 --> 00:03:45,493 What time was this? 74 00:03:45,526 --> 00:03:46,927 About 6:45. Okay? 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,696 No, no, no. It's not okay. 76 00:03:48,729 --> 00:03:50,864 Wait a minute, we got some questions about this girl. 77 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:53,534 Have you ever seen her around here before? 78 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,436 I don't remember. 79 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:57,004 We get a lot of customers in here. 80 00:03:57,037 --> 00:03:58,005 All right, how 'bout 81 00:03:58,038 --> 00:03:59,540 we just stand out here 82 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:00,541 until you do remember? 83 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,043 What if she has friends? 84 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:04,845 What if they come and smash up my store? 85 00:04:04,878 --> 00:04:06,280 Will you be here then? 86 00:04:06,314 --> 00:04:07,581 We'll order extra patrols for you. 87 00:04:07,615 --> 00:04:09,417 We'll have our people keep an eye out for you. 88 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:10,851 Now come on. 89 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:12,420 [speaking Korean] 90 00:04:12,453 --> 00:04:14,455 [speaking Korean] 91 00:04:14,488 --> 00:04:17,525 [speaking Korean] 92 00:04:17,558 --> 00:04:18,659 She has been here before. 93 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:21,395 I had to run her off for shoplifting a couple of times. 94 00:04:21,429 --> 00:04:23,431 Do you know her name? 95 00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:25,533 She has a baby. A little girl. 96 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:29,337 She came in once or twice with Lillie Sands. 97 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:30,571 A regular customer. 98 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,373 Please don't tell her we sent you. 99 00:04:32,406 --> 00:04:35,343 It sounds like Traci. My granddaughter. 100 00:04:35,376 --> 00:04:36,910 What did she do now? 101 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:38,479 (Fontana) Has she been in trouble before? 102 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:40,914 Since she learned how to walk. 103 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:43,884 She was living here after she had her baby. 104 00:04:43,917 --> 00:04:45,553 But not anymore. 105 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:47,521 I don't allow drugs in my house. 106 00:04:47,555 --> 00:04:50,524 Is that Traci's kid? No. 107 00:04:50,558 --> 00:04:52,460 This is my other great grandbaby. 108 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:54,728 And this beautiful little boy here 109 00:04:54,762 --> 00:04:57,064 came from my niece. 110 00:04:57,097 --> 00:04:58,766 They both live here with you? 111 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:01,869 Young women in my family 112 00:05:01,902 --> 00:05:04,605 have made babies they can't care for. 113 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:09,042 Some for drugs. One was sent to Iraq. 114 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:10,444 So they give them to me. 115 00:05:10,478 --> 00:05:12,580 Because they know I raise them properly. 116 00:05:12,613 --> 00:05:15,449 But Traci's child is still with her? 117 00:05:15,483 --> 00:05:18,519 I wanted to care for Kesha, but Traci wouldn't allow it. 118 00:05:18,552 --> 00:05:19,787 Do you know where she lives? 119 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:21,589 We need to ask her a couple questions. 120 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:23,524 I don't care how handsome you think you are, young man. 121 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:26,494 Don't lie to me. I know how this goes. 122 00:05:26,527 --> 00:05:31,131 I mean no disrespect, ma'am. But we do need to find Traci. 123 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:33,367 It's important. 124 00:05:33,401 --> 00:05:35,969 She's with her dope addict mother. 125 00:05:36,003 --> 00:05:38,472 Jefferson Gardens. Tower six, first floor. 126 00:05:42,610 --> 00:05:44,678 Althea Sands? The mother of Traci Sands? 127 00:05:44,712 --> 00:05:46,680 I don't have no money for no bail. 128 00:05:46,714 --> 00:05:48,649 Well, your daughter hasn't been arrested, ma'am-- 129 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:49,750 Well, she ain't here. 130 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:52,386 Please, ma'am. You don't wanna do that. 131 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:54,888 What's this about? 132 00:05:54,922 --> 00:05:56,089 We're just looking for Traci. 133 00:05:56,123 --> 00:05:57,491 You can look all you want, 134 00:05:57,525 --> 00:05:59,493 but she ain't here. 135 00:05:59,527 --> 00:06:01,028 Well, do you know where we could find her? 136 00:06:01,061 --> 00:06:02,630 Who knows? 137 00:06:02,663 --> 00:06:04,798 When do you expect to see her next? 138 00:06:04,832 --> 00:06:06,734 She ain't been around since your people took the baby. 139 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:08,001 She just up and left. 140 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:10,404 Wait, child services took the baby Kesha? 141 00:06:10,438 --> 00:06:12,706 Yeah. Two weeks ago. 142 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:16,910 That little girl's welfare was supposed to pay the damn bills. 143 00:06:18,912 --> 00:06:20,681 You need a license to drive a car, 144 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:22,115 but they'll let anybody have kids. 145 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:23,751 And you gotta be 17 for the car. 146 00:06:23,784 --> 00:06:25,686 You know what? Let's go to A.C.S. 147 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:28,722 Find out what's going on with Kesha. And her loving mother. 148 00:06:28,756 --> 00:06:30,891 Traci Sands. 149 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:33,661 One of the kids I was trying to protect until she became 150 00:06:33,694 --> 00:06:35,529 one of the parents I had to investigate. 151 00:06:35,563 --> 00:06:36,797 Traci was abused? 152 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:39,032 Physically, emotionally, sexually... 153 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,934 So, what happened with Kesha? 154 00:06:40,968 --> 00:06:42,770 Two years of complaints from neighbors. 155 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:43,771 Such as? 156 00:06:43,804 --> 00:06:46,139 Slapping the baby. Slamming her into a wall. 157 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:48,709 Cuts and bruises on her arms, face, and legs. 158 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:51,545 We finally get a court order to remove Kesha, 159 00:06:51,579 --> 00:06:52,780 when this happens. 160 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:54,114 Oh, boy. 161 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:56,617 Our witness heard screams, looked in the window, 162 00:06:56,650 --> 00:06:59,186 and saw Traci pouring boiling water on her. 163 00:06:59,219 --> 00:07:01,655 Apparently, she was crying too much. 164 00:07:01,689 --> 00:07:03,023 Look at the witness. 165 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:05,158 Sam Register. 166 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:07,127 A nice guy. I'm sure he'd be willing to-- 167 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,729 He's dead. 168 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:10,063 Look, Traci wasn't at her mother's house. 169 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:11,699 She wasn't at her grandmother's. 170 00:07:11,732 --> 00:07:14,568 You have any idea where we can find her? 171 00:07:14,602 --> 00:07:15,636 She was with her boyfriend 172 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:17,605 when we served her a court order. 173 00:07:17,638 --> 00:07:18,672 Thug wanna-be named Paz. 174 00:07:18,706 --> 00:07:21,509 He's got a record. 175 00:07:21,542 --> 00:07:23,677 Police! Police! 176 00:07:23,711 --> 00:07:25,946 On the floor. On the floor! 177 00:07:25,979 --> 00:07:27,515 Come on! On the floor! 178 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:30,651 No! Get off! 179 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:32,052 Kick his ass. Kick his ass. 180 00:07:32,085 --> 00:07:33,521 Shut up! 181 00:07:33,554 --> 00:07:35,155 Get off of me! Stop! 182 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:37,525 Get off of me! I'm gonna kill you! 183 00:07:37,558 --> 00:07:39,960 Get your ass up. We're taking you down too. 184 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:44,031 Get up. Get up. Get off of me! 185 00:07:44,064 --> 00:07:48,001 Hey, yo! I need some water, please. 186 00:07:48,035 --> 00:07:52,840 Yo, police, on the other side of that glass! 187 00:07:52,873 --> 00:07:54,942 Possession collar at age nine, 188 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:57,244 theft at ten, intent to distribute, 189 00:07:57,277 --> 00:07:59,246 four assault charges, shoplifting... 190 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:00,981 Doesn't leave much time for homework. 191 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:03,851 But that doesn't prove she's the killer. 192 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:05,986 She had bloody clothes at Paz' apartment. 193 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,055 They're at the crime lab. 194 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:09,790 Will you look at this, huh? 195 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,125 Tailor-made. I expect to be reimbursed. 196 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:15,295 That's one pissed off little girl. 197 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:16,830 She's a juiced up crack head. 198 00:08:16,864 --> 00:08:19,967 You go call your tailor. 199 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,301 And I'll take the interview. 200 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:23,270 (Traci) Hey! 201 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,706 Y'all just gonna leave me here all night? 202 00:08:25,739 --> 00:08:27,541 I need some water! 203 00:08:27,575 --> 00:08:29,710 I'm dying in here! 204 00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:36,083 Here's the problem, Traci. 205 00:08:36,116 --> 00:08:40,721 We've got a witness who puts you at the scene. 206 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:43,657 We found the victim's wallet in your boyfriend's place. 207 00:08:43,691 --> 00:08:47,260 Then why aren't you sweating him? 208 00:08:47,294 --> 00:08:50,030 Because we found blood on your clothes. 209 00:08:50,063 --> 00:08:53,000 First of the month, welfare day, 210 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,768 but you didn't get a check, did you? 211 00:08:54,802 --> 00:08:57,838 All because Sam, the donut man, called child services after you. 212 00:08:57,871 --> 00:09:00,240 So? I don't need that check. 213 00:09:00,273 --> 00:09:01,842 And I could always have another baby. 214 00:09:04,211 --> 00:09:06,113 You know, the blood on your clothes 215 00:09:06,146 --> 00:09:08,682 was a type match to the victim. 216 00:09:08,716 --> 00:09:11,885 So I figure, 217 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,288 you got about a minute to convince me 218 00:09:15,322 --> 00:09:17,290 you're worth the help, 219 00:09:17,324 --> 00:09:19,627 or I'm gonna send your baby-making behind 220 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,595 to Sing-Sing for life. 221 00:09:21,629 --> 00:09:25,633 I ain't afraid of you. 222 00:09:25,666 --> 00:09:27,801 No? 223 00:09:27,835 --> 00:09:32,072 You should be. 224 00:09:36,877 --> 00:09:41,114 Abuse your own blood. An innocent little girl-- 225 00:09:41,148 --> 00:09:42,883 Shut up! 226 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:45,218 And then when someone finally stops you, you kill him. 227 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:46,954 Is that what you want the jury to hear? 228 00:09:46,987 --> 00:09:51,358 That old rat had it coming. 229 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,899 But I didn't touch him. 230 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:05,939 Mmm. Pitiful. 231 00:10:05,973 --> 00:10:08,141 I think it's time you made a statement. 232 00:10:08,175 --> 00:10:11,945 Get me a lawyer. 233 00:10:14,882 --> 00:10:17,284 (Van Buren) DNA confirms the blood match. 234 00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:19,186 Traci Sands is definitely our girl. 235 00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:21,354 We'll try her as an adult. She'll get 25 years. 236 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:23,356 Come out worse than she is now. 237 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:25,993 She blew her last chance when she murdered Sam Register. 238 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:29,429 [phone rings] 239 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,364 Van Buren. 240 00:10:31,398 --> 00:10:33,867 Yes, we're just discussing-- 241 00:10:33,901 --> 00:10:36,069 What? 242 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:38,271 How did this happen? 243 00:10:38,305 --> 00:10:43,911 Well, find out and call me back. 244 00:10:43,944 --> 00:10:45,846 Nobody touched her. I swear. 245 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,147 (Green) Did she say anything about being sick? 246 00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:49,016 She just complained a lot about everything. 247 00:10:49,049 --> 00:10:50,450 I thought she was faking. 248 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:54,922 But then she wouldn't get up this morning. 249 00:11:04,097 --> 00:11:08,101 And then you figured out she wasn't faking it. 250 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,942 All we have at this time is the initial reports. 251 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:17,177 Some form of anemia. 252 00:11:17,210 --> 00:11:20,213 Yes. Natural causes. 253 00:11:20,247 --> 00:11:21,982 Well, as soon as we know more, 254 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:24,952 D.C.P.I. will be issuing a statement. 255 00:11:24,985 --> 00:11:26,954 Yeah. All right. 256 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:28,488 I.A.'s already opened the case. 257 00:11:28,521 --> 00:11:30,357 They wanna talk to everyone. 258 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,192 Man, she was fine when we dropped her off. 259 00:11:32,225 --> 00:11:33,360 She asked for a glass of water, 260 00:11:33,393 --> 00:11:35,162 and we're supposed to recognize that as death throes? 261 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,230 Just be ready for the questions. 262 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:38,766 So, what's up? 263 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,268 The M.E.'s ready for us. She wants you to come too. 264 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,871 Why? 265 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:45,939 I'm ruling her death a possible homicide. 266 00:11:45,973 --> 00:11:47,040 Based on what? 267 00:11:47,074 --> 00:11:49,777 Okay. 268 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:53,213 Immediate cause of death, was severe hemolytic anemia. 269 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:56,950 Genetic testing showed, she had a sickle syndrome disease. 270 00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:58,285 As in sickle cell anemia? 271 00:11:58,318 --> 00:12:01,221 Sickle syndrome. It's related, but less serious. 272 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:02,455 It's almost never fatal. 273 00:12:02,489 --> 00:12:04,892 Either way, it's a disease. Uh-huh. 274 00:12:04,925 --> 00:12:08,161 Autopsy revealed heavy scarring in her uterus. 275 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:10,230 And this. 276 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:12,299 An I.U.D. 277 00:12:12,332 --> 00:12:14,434 She was on birth control. 278 00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:17,137 This isn't your average I.U.D. 279 00:12:17,170 --> 00:12:19,239 These pockets were designed to carry a drug. 280 00:12:19,272 --> 00:12:20,373 Something called benecrine, 281 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,442 which popped up on her tox screen. 282 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:25,145 The PDR lists it as a cheap anti-malarial. 283 00:12:25,178 --> 00:12:27,014 But in developing countries, 284 00:12:27,047 --> 00:12:29,382 benecrine is also used as a sterility drug 285 00:12:29,416 --> 00:12:30,984 delivered by I.U.D. 286 00:12:31,018 --> 00:12:32,853 Somebody sterilized her. 287 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:35,122 And benecrine causes anemia. 288 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:37,090 You give it to someone with sickle syndrome... 289 00:12:37,124 --> 00:12:39,827 And it's lethal. 290 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:43,230 Whoever sterilized Traci Sands caused her death. 291 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:48,001 Let's find out who took care of Traci's medical needs. 292 00:12:51,571 --> 00:12:55,242 I always feared she'd be dead before 20. 293 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:58,045 I just didn't think it would happen like this. 294 00:12:58,078 --> 00:13:00,580 Has she had any medical procedures lately? 295 00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:02,515 Not that I know of. 296 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:04,885 Anything gynecological maybe? 297 00:13:04,918 --> 00:13:06,419 Not since she had her baby. 298 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:09,022 Do you know where she received her medical help? 299 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:11,458 Everyone in the family goes to Operation Remedy. 300 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,160 That's the free clinic on third, right? 301 00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:14,261 Yeah. 302 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,495 Good people. 303 00:13:15,528 --> 00:13:17,865 Thank you, ma'am. 304 00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:19,366 Talk to anyone around here, 305 00:13:19,399 --> 00:13:21,468 chances are, they'll tell you the same thing. 306 00:13:21,501 --> 00:13:24,437 This place, Nurse G saved their life. 307 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:27,140 She got me the right meds for my diabetes. 308 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:29,409 Gave me training, a job... 309 00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:32,345 Nurse G? Nurse Gloria...Rhodes. 310 00:13:32,379 --> 00:13:34,414 She built this clinic up from nothing. 311 00:13:34,447 --> 00:13:36,149 So she would've treated Traci Sands? 312 00:13:36,183 --> 00:13:37,885 Mmm-hmm. Yes. 313 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:40,320 I always took care of Traci. 314 00:13:40,353 --> 00:13:41,354 Gloria Rhodes. 315 00:13:41,388 --> 00:13:42,455 You're with the police? 316 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:44,424 Why, yes, ma'am. We are. 317 00:13:44,457 --> 00:13:45,959 Have you got a minute? 318 00:13:45,993 --> 00:13:47,995 Sure. 319 00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:49,997 A lot of confused lost girls come through here. 320 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:51,498 Traci needed more help than most. 321 00:13:51,531 --> 00:13:53,166 What kind of help? Medical? 322 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,568 Oh, emotional, psychological, you name it. 323 00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:59,406 She was a troubled, angry kid with a terrible drug problem. 324 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,509 Have you been able to find out why this happened? 325 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:04,477 The paper just said anemia. 326 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:08,081 Well, the medical examiner is still working on all of that. 327 00:14:08,115 --> 00:14:09,649 When was the last time you treated her? 328 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:12,385 About six months ago. 329 00:14:12,419 --> 00:14:14,321 Do you mind if we ask what for? 330 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:19,092 I don't suppose confidentiality applies anymore. 331 00:14:19,126 --> 00:14:20,427 Traci had gonorrhea. 332 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:22,429 Did you refer her to a doctor? 333 00:14:22,462 --> 00:14:24,631 I prescribed some antibiotics for her. 334 00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:27,300 I'm a nurse practitioner, Detective. 335 00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:30,070 You ever prescribe a benecrine I.U.D.? 336 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:32,505 For sterilization? 337 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,441 Those are used overseas. We don't do that here. 338 00:14:34,474 --> 00:14:35,408 It's not FDA approved. 339 00:14:35,442 --> 00:14:38,545 Your clinic performs sterilizations, though. 340 00:14:38,578 --> 00:14:39,546 We provide birth control. 341 00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:42,415 Depo and Norplant. The pill. 342 00:14:42,449 --> 00:14:44,551 And, yes, we provide referrals for surgery, 343 00:14:44,584 --> 00:14:46,253 tubal ligation. 344 00:14:46,286 --> 00:14:49,222 Are you an advocate for sterilization? 345 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:51,458 I'm an advocate for giving young women a choice. 346 00:14:51,491 --> 00:14:53,560 A chance to improve their circumstances. 347 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:55,495 To break the cycle of waste. 348 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:57,497 (Green) That's a yes? 349 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:58,298 It's far more complicated 350 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:00,533 than just a yes or no, Detective. 351 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:03,603 These young women have such hard lives. 352 00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:05,538 Such limited choices. 353 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:08,041 To add children into the equation? 354 00:15:08,075 --> 00:15:09,609 Makes no sense. 355 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:15,182 So if they ask for help, I offer it. 356 00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:17,350 But why would she risk using an illegal drug 357 00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:19,019 when she could offer a legal procedure 358 00:15:19,052 --> 00:15:20,420 to anybody who wants it? 359 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:22,555 Well, maybe Traci didn't want it. 360 00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:24,391 Forgive me for asking, Lieutenant, 361 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:26,726 but how does the nurse put this thing in Traci 362 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:28,628 without Traci noticing it? 363 00:15:28,661 --> 00:15:30,363 Well, she's 16. 364 00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:32,465 Maybe she thought she was going for a routine exam. 365 00:15:32,499 --> 00:15:33,433 And if that's the case, 366 00:15:33,466 --> 00:15:35,568 this nurse is guilty of a hell of a lot more 367 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:37,570 than an illegal medical procedure. 368 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:38,471 Hey, I got something. 369 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:40,307 This is from the Operation Remedy website. 370 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:41,574 They get major contributions from the center 371 00:15:41,608 --> 00:15:43,376 for population and hygiene. 372 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:45,312 Which is? It's a medical charity. 373 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:47,514 Read this interview by Dr. Milton Thorst. 374 00:15:47,547 --> 00:15:50,750 "Fertility control is essential to our national security. 375 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,353 "Without it, America will soon be overwhelmed 376 00:15:53,386 --> 00:15:57,157 "by a flood of immigrants and immigrant offspring 377 00:15:57,190 --> 00:15:59,426 causing chaos and anarchy." 378 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:00,693 Yeah, somebody needs some diversity training. 379 00:16:00,727 --> 00:16:02,162 Don't you think? 380 00:16:02,195 --> 00:16:04,264 We tracked the serial number on the I.U.D. 381 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:05,565 to a medical supplier in Trenton. 382 00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:10,003 Why don't you guys get on that? 383 00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:14,574 It's a popular model. 384 00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:16,576 I ship thousands of these to Asia every month. 385 00:16:16,609 --> 00:16:18,445 For use with benecrine? 386 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:20,447 No clue. I just ship the I.U.D.s. 387 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,482 Hey, do you know anything about this drug, benecrine? 388 00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:25,085 I know baseball, beer, and I.U.D.s, buddy. 389 00:16:25,118 --> 00:16:26,453 That's it. 390 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:28,621 Here. 391 00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:32,225 The lot with that serial number was sold to... 392 00:16:32,259 --> 00:16:34,461 a charity in Manhattan. 393 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:37,297 Center for Population and Hygiene. 394 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:39,566 Here. 395 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:42,135 We support 25 free clinics in nine states. 396 00:16:42,169 --> 00:16:44,704 Operation Remedy is one of our greatest success stories. 397 00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:46,606 For advancing the cause of sterilization? 398 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:50,577 Dr. Thorst's comments are sometimes taken out of context. 399 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:52,312 The only cause we advance 400 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:54,081 is providing safe, free medical care 401 00:16:54,114 --> 00:16:55,548 to those who need it most. 402 00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:57,517 Excuse me, but where is this? 403 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:58,751 Vietnam. 404 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:00,120 In addition to our work here, 405 00:17:00,153 --> 00:17:02,355 we sponsor teams in the poorest areas 406 00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:03,556 of developing countries. 407 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:05,158 Providing essential health services. 408 00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:06,593 Such as... 409 00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:08,461 Vaccinations, basic medicine, 410 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:09,562 dental care.... 411 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:10,597 Fertility control? 412 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:11,598 Contraception 413 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:13,100 and sterilization. 414 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:15,468 Number one request from our female patients. 415 00:17:15,502 --> 00:17:17,604 Do you use benecrine? 416 00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:20,307 Benecrine is a single procedure. No surgery. 417 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:21,841 Complications are rare. 418 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:23,776 (Green) And it's cheap. 419 00:17:23,810 --> 00:17:25,678 About one dollar per patient. 420 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:27,680 That oughta help stop the flood of immigrants. 421 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:31,084 Detective, the maternal mortality rate 422 00:17:31,118 --> 00:17:32,619 in these countries is staggering. 423 00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:36,089 600,000 women die every year. 424 00:17:36,123 --> 00:17:38,791 For them, birth control is life saving. 425 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:41,594 Do you know a nurse named Gloria Rhodes? 426 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:45,498 Of course. 427 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,100 Every year she does a two-week mission 428 00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:48,135 with Population Hygiene. 429 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:49,436 Doing benecrine sterilizations? 430 00:17:49,469 --> 00:17:50,670 They don't admit it, but-- 431 00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,672 Traci's I.U.D. came from a lot 432 00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:53,573 used in Cambodia last year, 433 00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:56,343 where Rhodes was serving the disadvantaged. 434 00:17:56,376 --> 00:17:58,345 Well, it looks like she brought home a souvenir. 435 00:17:58,378 --> 00:17:59,812 My guess would be more than one. 436 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:02,615 Get her in here. 437 00:18:02,649 --> 00:18:05,752 I'm sorry, Detectives, but I'm afraid you're confused. 438 00:18:05,785 --> 00:18:07,587 (Green) Oh, you think so? 439 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:09,256 I told you before, 440 00:18:09,289 --> 00:18:10,657 I haven't treated Traci in six months. 441 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:12,425 You can check my records at the clinic. 442 00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:14,394 We did better than that. 443 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:15,828 We checked Traci's belongings. 444 00:18:15,862 --> 00:18:17,497 Antibiotics. 445 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,632 We're guessing that Traci had gonorrhea. 446 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,734 Again. These were prescribed by you, Ms. Rhodes. 447 00:18:21,768 --> 00:18:23,203 Ten days before her death. 448 00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:25,572 (Fontana) Which means that you just lied to us. 449 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:26,806 My prescription pad went missing. 450 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,675 Traci must've stolen it. 451 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:32,379 Yeah, we stopped by her pharmacy. 452 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:33,613 (Green) Now that's not her handwriting, is it? 453 00:18:33,646 --> 00:18:37,417 (Fontana) Oh, come on, you tried to help Traci and she died. 454 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:38,751 It's as simple as that, isn't it? 455 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,187 Now this is pretty much over. 456 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:41,788 You better tell us your side of the story. 457 00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:46,426 I think I'd like to call my lawyer. 458 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,461 From a legal standpoint, 459 00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,230 I don't think we have enough to charge her. 460 00:18:50,263 --> 00:18:51,598 Excuse me? 461 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,766 Without proof she knew about Traci's sickle syndrome, 462 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,369 it's malpractice, but I'm not sure there's a criminal case. 463 00:18:56,403 --> 00:19:00,707 She burned and scarred the uterus of a young girl, 464 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:03,243 with a drug that caused her death. 465 00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:06,646 [sighs] 466 00:19:06,679 --> 00:19:10,217 Arrest her. We'll find the right charge. 467 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:17,290 Gloria Rhodes, you're under arrest 468 00:19:17,324 --> 00:19:18,925 in connection with the death of Traci Sands. 469 00:19:18,958 --> 00:19:20,760 You have the right to remain silent. 470 00:19:20,793 --> 00:19:23,296 Anything you do say can and will be used 471 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:24,864 against you in a court of law. 472 00:19:24,897 --> 00:19:26,499 You have the right to an attorney... 473 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:32,539 Miss Borgia? Paul Robinette. 474 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:34,707 I hear you used to have my office. 475 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:36,409 You were probably still in high school. 476 00:19:36,443 --> 00:19:37,477 [laughs] 477 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:38,545 Tell Jack McCoy hello for me. 478 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:39,612 I will. 479 00:19:39,646 --> 00:19:41,448 Docket number 4-1-8-9-9. 480 00:19:41,481 --> 00:19:42,915 People v. Gloria Rhodes on the charge 481 00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:44,784 of Manslaughter, Second Degree. 482 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:45,985 How do you plead, Ms. Rhodes? 483 00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:47,019 We shouldn't even be here, Your Honor. 484 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,222 My client performed a simple medical procedure 485 00:19:49,256 --> 00:19:50,557 with regrettable complications. 486 00:19:50,590 --> 00:19:52,425 Mr. Robinette... 487 00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:54,561 Not guilty, Your Honor. 488 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:55,695 (Judge) Bail, Ms. Borgia? 489 00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:57,230 The people request remand, Your Honor. 490 00:19:57,264 --> 00:19:58,698 The defendant travels extensively 491 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:00,467 outside the country, 492 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,402 and she has wealthy contacts who might help her flee. 493 00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:03,703 My client is a trusted professional 494 00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:05,772 and a life-long resident of New York. 495 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:07,407 Who sterilized a 16-year-old girl 496 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,609 with an unapproved procedure. 497 00:20:09,642 --> 00:20:11,711 All right, the press has heard you both. 498 00:20:11,744 --> 00:20:13,580 Bail is set at $200,000, 499 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:16,516 and Ms. Rhodes will surrender her passport. 500 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,352 A white nurse used a forbidden drug 501 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:20,953 to sterilize a poor black girl, 502 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,955 who happened to have sickle syndrome. 503 00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:24,257 And the young lady died. 504 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:25,592 Am I missing anything here? 505 00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:26,926 That's pretty much it. 506 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,462 Except that the girl who died 507 00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:31,431 was a primary suspect in a murder investigation. 508 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:34,567 Had a rap sheet from here to Hartford. 509 00:20:34,601 --> 00:20:36,469 And recently had her child taken away, 510 00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:38,505 because she threw a pot of boiling water on her. 511 00:20:38,538 --> 00:20:42,041 And we're charging this nurse with Second Degree Manslaughter. 512 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,042 (McCoy) Recklessly causing 513 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:43,943 the death of another. 514 00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:45,778 It's not a slam dunk, but if we can prove 515 00:20:45,812 --> 00:20:47,614 that she knew about the sickle syndrome, 516 00:20:47,647 --> 00:20:50,317 that the potential legal interaction with benecrine, 517 00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:51,451 we'll be okay. 518 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:52,985 A lot of ifs. 519 00:20:53,019 --> 00:20:55,822 Could charge something less. Reckless Endangerment. 520 00:20:55,855 --> 00:21:00,327 Illegal sterilization, white nurse, black girl... 521 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:01,761 a lot of reasons not to go soft. 522 00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:04,597 (Branch) Stick with Manslaughter. 523 00:21:04,631 --> 00:21:08,601 And find somebody who can tell you what Rhodes knew. 524 00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:11,003 Nurse G is a good person. 525 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:12,639 You don't know what it's like down there. 526 00:21:12,672 --> 00:21:14,040 You don't see what she deals with. 527 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:16,509 You mean, like, Traci scalding her daughter? 528 00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:17,510 Yeah. Stuff like that. 529 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:20,447 So, sterilizing her, 530 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,014 you think Nurse G did the right thing? 531 00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:27,654 Did Nurse G know about Traci's sickle syndrome? 532 00:21:27,687 --> 00:21:28,855 I don't know. 533 00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:31,023 You don't recall her asking? No. 534 00:21:31,057 --> 00:21:35,061 Did Traci asked to be sterilized? 535 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:42,535 I checked your rap sheet, Savannah. 536 00:21:42,569 --> 00:21:43,636 You're still on probation. 537 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:47,039 I know, but I'm clean now. 538 00:21:47,073 --> 00:21:49,509 If you're lying to me, I'll have to file charges. 539 00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:51,511 Meaning your probation will be revoked immediately. 540 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:54,547 You'd do that? Yeah. 541 00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:57,617 So, please, just tell me what you know. 542 00:22:00,787 --> 00:22:05,825 Traci wasn't the first. 543 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:08,728 The assistant claims Nurse Rhodes performed 544 00:22:08,761 --> 00:22:11,664 the same procedure on several other girls. 545 00:22:11,698 --> 00:22:12,999 Any of them die? 546 00:22:13,032 --> 00:22:15,368 No, but some had serious complications. 547 00:22:15,402 --> 00:22:17,437 Headaches, excessive bleeding... 548 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:19,706 Rhodes blamed them on yeast infections, 549 00:22:19,739 --> 00:22:21,908 but the symptoms are consistent with benecrine. 550 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:23,410 Is there any proof? 551 00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:24,711 No, Rhodes isn't stupid. 552 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:27,547 She never filed any paperwork for the exams 553 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:29,449 or the proceeding visits. 554 00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:31,551 But this assistant remembers the names? 555 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:33,686 Five girls in the last two years. 556 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,422 Is race a factor? 557 00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:37,123 The only common thread is they all had records 558 00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:40,493 of drugs and crime. 559 00:22:40,527 --> 00:22:42,962 A white woman sterilizing delinquent girls 560 00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:45,665 because she judged them unfit to reproduce. 561 00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:46,966 Eugenics. 562 00:22:46,999 --> 00:22:48,668 I thought that ended in Nazi Germany. 563 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:53,005 California was performing forced sterilizations until 1964. 564 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,475 Have Green and Fontana track down the other girls. 565 00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:56,476 I already did. 566 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:59,646 One died of a drug overdose. Two are in prison. 567 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:00,747 One moved out of state. 568 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,982 And the fifth? Living in Queens. 569 00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:06,719 Izabella Perez. I'm meeting her this afternoon. 570 00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:10,857 (Perez) No, I'm not the same person no more. 571 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:12,425 I'm sober. 572 00:23:12,459 --> 00:23:14,494 Ain't been arrested in, like, three years. 573 00:23:14,527 --> 00:23:17,530 I work nights. Go to school, church. 574 00:23:17,564 --> 00:23:19,632 That's where I met my boyfriend. 575 00:23:19,666 --> 00:23:21,868 Uh, my fiancé. Daryl. 576 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,202 We're gonna get married next spring. 577 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:25,672 Oh, wow. Congratulations. 578 00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:28,541 So, uh, Gloria Rhodes. 579 00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:30,009 Ah, Nurse G. 580 00:23:30,042 --> 00:23:32,078 Yeah, man, she wouldn't hurt nobody. 581 00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:33,913 She really helped change my life around. 582 00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:36,516 Taught me that if I didn't respect myself, 583 00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:38,017 nobody else would either. 584 00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,687 I'm here about an exam she gave you. 585 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,222 You remember having some trouble about two years ago? 586 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:44,791 Yeah, I remember passing out. 587 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:46,593 Nurse G took me to the clinic. 588 00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:47,960 Took real good care of me. 589 00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:49,962 You know, stayed up with me half the night. 590 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,731 What was the problem? 591 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:53,766 Some infection. 592 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,569 I had real bad cramps. 593 00:23:56,603 --> 00:23:57,637 I was bleeding a lot. 594 00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:00,573 Did she offer to take you to the emergency room? 595 00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,041 No, she knew I didn't have no money. 596 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:04,143 But I haven't had problems since. 597 00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:07,914 Izabella, would you be willing 598 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,782 to let one of our doctors examine you? 599 00:24:09,816 --> 00:24:13,853 What for? 600 00:24:13,886 --> 00:24:15,755 Medical exams show 601 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,257 Izabella Perez was sterilized using benecrine. 602 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:20,827 And had no idea this was done to her. 603 00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:22,495 Two of the other girls Savannah mentioned 604 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:23,663 said the same thing. 605 00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,031 I'm looking into the others. 606 00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:28,568 Makes it hard to believe Traci Sands gave consent. 607 00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:29,802 Sterilizing one girl is terrible. 608 00:24:29,836 --> 00:24:32,004 Sterilizing five is a mission statement. 609 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:33,640 Up the charge to murder. 610 00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:35,542 Depraved indifference? 611 00:24:35,575 --> 00:24:38,578 Arthur, I'm not so sure we can get there. 612 00:24:38,611 --> 00:24:40,847 You think jurors won't be as horrified as we are? 613 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,049 I think the argument for eugenics 614 00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:44,884 is more seductive than you imagine. 615 00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,653 Jack, please. 616 00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:49,989 No sane person is gonna agree with what she did. 617 00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:53,660 In 1991, the judge ordered an abusive mother 618 00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:56,195 to go on Norplant as a condition of her parole. 619 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:57,163 A year earlier, 620 00:24:57,196 --> 00:24:59,732 a Philadelphia Inquirer editorial 621 00:24:59,766 --> 00:25:02,034 suggested coerced contraception 622 00:25:02,068 --> 00:25:04,036 to reduce the black underclass. 623 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:07,707 The sympathy for eugenics in this country 624 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:10,209 leads back to 1927, the Supreme Court, 625 00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:11,811 Oliver Wendell Holmes. 626 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,646 Buck vs. Bell. 627 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,814 (Borgia) Every law school in the country 628 00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:15,715 mocks that decision 629 00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:17,584 as a colossal miscarriage of justice. 630 00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:18,751 (McCoy) Oliver Wendell Holmes 631 00:25:18,785 --> 00:25:22,321 was one of the great judges in this country's history. 632 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:25,658 And he held that it was legal to sterilize Carrie Buck 633 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:28,060 for being "feeble minded" 634 00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:29,896 and having a child out of wedlock. 635 00:25:29,929 --> 00:25:31,831 He was convinced that eugenics makes sense. 636 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:35,167 All Robinette has to do is convince one juror 637 00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,670 that this nurse did the right thing. 638 00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,707 Then you'll have to convince them all of the truth. 639 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:43,576 This is murder. 640 00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:48,280 (McCoy) You have had experience 641 00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:49,916 with benecrine sterilizations. 642 00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:51,918 Isn't that correct, Dr. Horton? 643 00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:54,654 Yes, I performed the procedure numerous times while working 644 00:25:54,687 --> 00:25:57,790 with the Center for Population and Hygiene in Cambodia. 645 00:25:57,824 --> 00:25:59,358 In Cambodia. 646 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,127 Did you work with the defendant? 647 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,829 (Horton) Yes, she assisted me. 648 00:26:02,862 --> 00:26:05,197 She assisted you with sterilizations? 649 00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:07,266 At first, but as I learned more about benecrine, 650 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:09,135 I refused to administer it. 651 00:26:09,168 --> 00:26:12,271 After that, she performed the procedures herself. 652 00:26:12,304 --> 00:26:15,174 (McCoy) Why did you refuse to administer benecrine? 653 00:26:15,207 --> 00:26:16,809 It may be carcinogenic. 654 00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:18,945 That's why it's not approved in the U.S. 655 00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:21,213 If it's not safe enough for Americans, 656 00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:23,182 why is it okay for Cambodians? 657 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:25,317 (McCoy) Did you ever share these concerns with the defendant? 658 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:26,518 (Horton) Yes. 659 00:26:26,552 --> 00:26:30,857 But she didn't stop performing benecrine sterilizations. 660 00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:36,028 How many benecrine sterilizations 661 00:26:36,062 --> 00:26:38,831 did Nurse Rhodes perform in Cambodia? 662 00:26:38,865 --> 00:26:39,832 Roughly, 200. 663 00:26:39,866 --> 00:26:41,200 (Robinette) Did anyone die? 664 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:42,802 Not to my knowledge. 665 00:26:42,835 --> 00:26:45,137 Have you, Dr. Horton, ever lost a patient 666 00:26:45,171 --> 00:26:46,939 as a result of a benecrine sterilization? 667 00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:48,340 (Horton) No. 668 00:26:48,374 --> 00:26:50,409 So, in your experience, 669 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,979 benecrine sterilizations are actually quite safe? 670 00:26:53,012 --> 00:26:57,149 Just because no one died doesn't mean they're safe. 671 00:26:57,183 --> 00:26:59,318 Well, that's exactly what it means, right? 672 00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:01,287 Hundreds of procedures, no fatalities. 673 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,989 We were lucky. 674 00:27:03,022 --> 00:27:04,724 Why is that? 675 00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:06,125 None of our patients had sickle syndrome. 676 00:27:06,158 --> 00:27:07,894 So what you're saying is, 677 00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:10,830 if a medical professional is unaware 678 00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:12,264 that a patient has sickle syndrome, 679 00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:14,300 he or she would have no basis to believe 680 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:16,869 that the procedure is life threatening? 681 00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:20,807 Yes, I-I suppose that's right. 682 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,409 (Robinette) Thank you. 683 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,415 We still need someone who can testify 684 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,851 that Rhodes knew about Traci's sickle syndrome. 685 00:27:31,884 --> 00:27:33,185 We've been over this, Jack. 686 00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:35,154 That person doesn't exist. 687 00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:38,424 There are no records, no evaluations, notes... 688 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:40,993 I looked at every damn paper in that clinic. 689 00:27:41,027 --> 00:27:43,062 There's nothing. So what'll we do? 690 00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:45,832 Hope when we call Izabella Perez 691 00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:47,366 that the jury assumes Nurse Rhodes 692 00:27:47,399 --> 00:27:49,168 asked Traci the same questions she asked her. 693 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:51,871 Izabella's reluctant to take the stand. 694 00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:53,940 This has been really rough on her. 695 00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:55,942 She wanted to start a family. 696 00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:58,044 Then she should be even more reluctant 697 00:27:58,077 --> 00:28:00,312 to see Nurse Rhodes go unpunished. 698 00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,314 (McCoy) Before the procedure, 699 00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:05,384 did Nurse Rhodes ask you if you had sickle-cell anemia 700 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:06,819 or sickle syndrome? 701 00:28:06,853 --> 00:28:08,921 Yes. Do you? 702 00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,222 No. 703 00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:13,292 But she asked? Yes. 704 00:28:13,325 --> 00:28:15,094 I remember 'cause nobody asked me questions 705 00:28:15,127 --> 00:28:17,296 like that before a pap smear. 706 00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:19,031 Could you tell the jury 707 00:28:19,065 --> 00:28:21,400 what happened after your visit to Nurse Rhodes 708 00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,936 for a simple pelvic exam 709 00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:26,105 approximately two years ago? 710 00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:28,240 (Perez) I got sick. 711 00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:31,010 I remember Nurse Rhodes pulled something out of me. 712 00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:33,212 It hurt. I didn't see what it was. 713 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,915 But you were concerned that something was wrong? 714 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:37,183 Yes, sir. 715 00:28:37,216 --> 00:28:41,087 Afterwards, I even asked. 716 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,156 Mmm. 717 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,358 Take your time, Ms. Perez. 718 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,264 I asked her if I could still have babies. 719 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:53,800 And what did Nurse Rhodes say? 720 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,334 (Perez) She just smiled at me. 721 00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:56,903 She said, "You're young. 722 00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:59,238 Straighten out your life before you worry about that." 723 00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:02,008 She lied right to my face. 724 00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:06,913 (McCoy) Did she ever explain to you why she chose to sterilize you? 725 00:29:06,946 --> 00:29:08,247 No, sir. 726 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,917 At the time this happened, 727 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:13,352 had you been in trouble with the law? 728 00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:16,388 I had several convictions for drug possession 729 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:19,091 and solicitation. 730 00:29:19,125 --> 00:29:22,361 (McCoy) Have you been arrested in the last three years? 731 00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:24,263 No, sir, I went through a treatment program. 732 00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:26,198 I go to college now. 733 00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:29,535 (McCoy) Thank you Ms. Perez. Nothing further. 734 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:34,173 Convicted of solicitation. 735 00:29:34,206 --> 00:29:36,542 How many times? 736 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:39,111 Four. 737 00:29:39,145 --> 00:29:41,380 Have you ever had gonorrhea? 738 00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:42,581 Objection. 739 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:44,383 It goes to an alternate explanation 740 00:29:44,416 --> 00:29:45,551 for her sterility, Your Honor. 741 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:47,219 It goes to villainizing the witness. 742 00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:49,221 (Judge Solomon) Overruled. 743 00:29:49,255 --> 00:29:51,423 But proceed with caution, Mr. Robinette. 744 00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:54,293 Ms. Perez? 745 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:57,463 Have you ever had gonorrhea? 746 00:29:57,496 --> 00:30:02,334 (Judge Solomon) Answer the question, please. 747 00:30:02,368 --> 00:30:03,802 Yes. 748 00:30:06,338 --> 00:30:08,107 What about chlamydia? 749 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,910 I don't remember. 750 00:30:10,943 --> 00:30:12,444 You don't remember being diagnosed on March 4th-- 751 00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,280 You know, that's not why I'm here. 752 00:30:14,313 --> 00:30:15,581 Did you have chlamydia or not? Shut your mouth. 753 00:30:15,614 --> 00:30:17,483 Why you on her side anyway, huh? 754 00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:19,351 Your Honor-- She did this to me. 755 00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:21,153 She took away my babies. 756 00:30:21,187 --> 00:30:23,089 Straighten out my life, bitch? For what? 757 00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:25,157 I can't have babies! I can't be a mother! 758 00:30:25,191 --> 00:30:26,292 You're gonna pay, bitch! 759 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:27,493 You know that? You're gonna pay! 760 00:30:27,526 --> 00:30:31,864 You're gonna pay for this! [sobbing] 761 00:30:33,399 --> 00:30:37,203 [sobbing continues] 762 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,655 So our key witness had a meltdown on the stand. 763 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,157 Not necessarily fatal. 764 00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:01,027 Her emotion might win some sympathy for Traci. 765 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,528 Or she scared a few jurors into thinking 766 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:04,463 Gloria Rhodes was right. 767 00:31:04,496 --> 00:31:07,133 I think I need to offer a plea. 768 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:09,635 I talked to Robinette, he'll accept Man Two. 769 00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,103 That's not enough. 770 00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:12,338 I know you've already condemned her 771 00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:16,042 to NOW and the NAACP and half of New York. 772 00:31:16,075 --> 00:31:18,210 It's not about politics, Jack. I'm outraged. 773 00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:19,278 Like a lot of people. 774 00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:20,379 And our legal system 775 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:22,081 is how society vents that outrage 776 00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:23,215 instead of vigilantism. 777 00:31:23,249 --> 00:31:25,551 I just don't wanna see her walk. 778 00:31:25,584 --> 00:31:28,454 Then don't let her. 779 00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:32,291 (Robinette) Nurse Rhodes, 780 00:31:32,324 --> 00:31:35,995 why did you perform a benecrine sterilization on Traci Sands? 781 00:31:36,028 --> 00:31:38,264 Traci was a lost, frightened young woman 782 00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,232 with a serious drug addiction. 783 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:42,168 She'd been in trouble with the law 784 00:31:42,201 --> 00:31:43,936 since she was nine. 785 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,404 After two abortions, 786 00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:48,407 she had a baby girl, Kesha, whom she abused terribly. 787 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,342 Threw boiling water on her. 788 00:31:50,376 --> 00:31:55,147 So when Traci Sands came to me after Child Services 789 00:31:55,181 --> 00:31:57,549 had taken her baby, in tears, 790 00:31:57,583 --> 00:31:59,952 begging me to perform the procedure, 791 00:31:59,986 --> 00:32:02,054 begging me to save her from herself, 792 00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:03,622 from her own worst instincts... 793 00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:05,557 I agreed. 794 00:32:05,591 --> 00:32:07,559 Why did you agree? 795 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:09,361 I thought I was doing her 796 00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:14,433 and her potential unborn children a favor. 797 00:32:14,466 --> 00:32:16,035 Why benecrine specifically? 798 00:32:16,068 --> 00:32:18,504 Instead of tubal ligation or Norplant? 799 00:32:18,537 --> 00:32:20,172 Traci was afraid of surgery, 800 00:32:20,206 --> 00:32:21,607 but she wanted it to be permanent. 801 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,375 Based on my experience, 802 00:32:23,409 --> 00:32:25,244 benecrine was a safe alternative. 803 00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:30,682 Did you ask Traci Sands if she had sickle syndrome? 804 00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:32,985 Yes. 805 00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:34,453 What did she say? 806 00:32:34,486 --> 00:32:38,390 She said, no. That she was healthy. 807 00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:47,266 Benecrine sterilization was safe? 808 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:51,537 Are you aware that it isn't FDA approved? 809 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:54,473 Safety isn't the only reason the FDA withholds approval. 810 00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:58,444 Did you know there are concerns that benecrine causes cancer? 811 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:00,446 Only because the studies that prove it doesn't 812 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:01,780 are incomplete. 813 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,383 When did you learn that Traci Sands 814 00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:06,318 had sickle syndrome? 815 00:33:06,352 --> 00:33:10,056 Shortly after she passed on. 816 00:33:10,089 --> 00:33:12,224 She had been diagnosed as a child, 817 00:33:12,258 --> 00:33:14,393 but those records were never forwarded to my clinic. 818 00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:17,296 She had been diagnosed with sickle syndrome. 819 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:20,199 And yet, it's your testimony 820 00:33:20,232 --> 00:33:22,168 that she told you she was healthy. 821 00:33:22,201 --> 00:33:23,702 (Rhodes) Yes. 822 00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:25,437 I think she wanted the procedure so badly, 823 00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:28,640 she was willing to lie. 824 00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,609 After you made it clear 825 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:33,779 that benecrine could kill a person in her condition, 826 00:33:33,812 --> 00:33:37,516 she chose to lie and put her own life at risk? 827 00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:41,120 It may not make sense to someone like you, Mr. McCoy, 828 00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:44,390 but for a girl crushed by poverty, addiction, and abuse, 829 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:46,192 it was perfectly clear. 830 00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:49,628 Perfectly clear to whom? 831 00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,530 To you? 832 00:33:51,563 --> 00:33:54,500 To anyone capable of sympathy. 833 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,404 When you see how Traci tortured her own daughter, 834 00:33:58,437 --> 00:34:03,442 you know it should never be allowed to happen again. 835 00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:08,114 But that doesn't change the fact that Traci asked me for help. 836 00:34:08,147 --> 00:34:11,583 That it was her choice. 837 00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:31,403 You think the jury believed her? Every word. 838 00:34:31,437 --> 00:34:33,405 Do we have fuel to impeach? 839 00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:36,508 Of course, but we don't have any rebuttal witnesses. 840 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:37,709 What about Traci's grandmother? 841 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:38,844 On what basis? 842 00:34:38,877 --> 00:34:40,479 She told us Traci wanted more children. 843 00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:42,214 Why would somebody who wouldn't take the pill 844 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:43,849 agree to sterilization? 845 00:34:43,882 --> 00:34:46,618 Track her down. 846 00:34:46,652 --> 00:34:50,622 I just wanna wash my hands of this whole thing and move on. 847 00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:51,823 I can subpoena you. 848 00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:52,891 And make me say what? 849 00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:54,793 That Traci wanted more children. 850 00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:57,363 That she refused to use contraceptives. 851 00:34:57,396 --> 00:35:00,132 That she would never have consented to being sterilized. 852 00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:01,600 I just wanna put this thing behind me. 853 00:35:01,633 --> 00:35:02,901 Can't you understand that? 854 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,636 If she was my granddaughter, I'd want answers. 855 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:06,272 I'd want the truth to come out. 856 00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:09,241 She is not your granddaughter. 857 00:35:09,275 --> 00:35:13,412 And sometimes the truth, especially up here, 858 00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,481 ain't so pretty. 859 00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:17,483 Nurse Rhodes killed Traci. 860 00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:20,519 Gloria was just trying to help. 861 00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:22,454 The same with Savannah 862 00:35:22,488 --> 00:35:25,524 and everyone else at that clinic. 863 00:35:25,557 --> 00:35:26,892 What do you mean? 864 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:30,596 Those are good people. 865 00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:33,399 Trying to do right. 866 00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:37,469 You can't fault them for what happened. 867 00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:45,911 Miss Borgia. 868 00:35:45,944 --> 00:35:47,479 Did you lie to me, Savannah? 869 00:35:47,513 --> 00:35:49,581 What? No. 870 00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:51,817 You told me Traci Sands came to the clinic alone. She did. 871 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:54,620 Like I said, it was just Nurse G and Traci 872 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:55,821 in the exam room. 873 00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:57,489 What about Lillie Sands, her grandmother? 874 00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,525 What about her? How does she know you? 875 00:35:59,558 --> 00:36:01,660 She comes in sometimes. 876 00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:05,497 Don't lie to me Savannah. 877 00:36:05,531 --> 00:36:07,499 Savannah? 878 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:17,776 Miss Sands came in a few days before Traci. 879 00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:18,977 What for? 880 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,646 She was just talking to Nurse G. 881 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,514 About what? 882 00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:29,721 Security sign-in sheets confirm you were at the clinic 883 00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:31,257 two days before Traci was sterilized. 884 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,192 Yet, you received no medical services. 885 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:40,699 What did you and Gloria Rhodes discuss, Mrs. Sands? 886 00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:43,669 I can't say anything. 887 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:47,539 I can't get in trouble. 888 00:36:47,573 --> 00:36:50,542 Lillie-- 889 00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:53,445 Who's gonna look after my family if I'm not around? 890 00:36:53,479 --> 00:36:59,585 Sarah and Damien, I'm all they've got. 891 00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:03,422 No one else cares if they live or die. 892 00:37:03,455 --> 00:37:06,792 If you agree to testify truthfully, 893 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,695 I can grant you immunity. You won't go to jail. 894 00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:13,699 Understand, Mr. McCoy, 895 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:17,836 that you're not just making a deal with me. 896 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,711 You're making a promise to them. 897 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:28,280 Tell the truth, and you won't go to jail. 898 00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:30,449 You have my word. 899 00:37:37,523 --> 00:37:40,626 Traci didn't know she was being sterilized. 900 00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:44,363 But I did. 901 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:45,864 How did you know? 902 00:37:45,897 --> 00:37:48,500 (Lillie) I talked to Nurse Rhodes. 903 00:37:48,534 --> 00:37:50,736 I could see the path Traci was on. 904 00:37:50,769 --> 00:37:53,639 I couldn't get her off drugs. 905 00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:56,442 Couldn't stop her having sex. 906 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:59,044 I tried to get her Norplant. 907 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,747 But doctors wouldn't do it without Traci's consent. 908 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,682 (McCoy) So what did you do? 909 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:06,452 (Lillie) I went to the clinic, 910 00:38:06,485 --> 00:38:07,753 talked to Gloria Rhodes, 911 00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,721 and she told me about benecrine. 912 00:38:09,755 --> 00:38:12,724 What did you say to her? 913 00:38:12,758 --> 00:38:17,729 I asked her... 914 00:38:17,763 --> 00:38:21,600 [whispers] Oh, God... 915 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,536 I asked her 916 00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,639 to make it so that Traci could never have kids. 917 00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:32,511 (Lillie) I had to do something. 918 00:38:32,544 --> 00:38:34,846 After what she did to Kesha. 919 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,684 See, Traci was my mistake. 920 00:38:38,717 --> 00:38:41,720 My fault. 921 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,923 [voice breaking] Her mother-- 922 00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:49,395 I should've protected Traci. 923 00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:53,799 I should've raised her. 924 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:56,668 It can't go on like this. 925 00:38:56,702 --> 00:39:00,839 It has to stop somewhere. 926 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:06,978 Did you tell Nurse Rhodes about Traci's sickle syndrome? 927 00:39:07,012 --> 00:39:10,148 Yes. 928 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:11,717 I was worried about it. 929 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:15,687 So, I told her 930 00:39:15,721 --> 00:39:18,023 Traci was diagnosed when she was seven. 931 00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:22,994 And Gloria said she didn't know Traci had it. 932 00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:25,764 But she did know. 933 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:29,535 I told her. 934 00:39:29,568 --> 00:39:32,438 (McCoy) Did she say that would be a problem? 935 00:39:32,471 --> 00:39:34,406 (Lillie) She didn't say anything. 936 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,044 So I asked her if she could still give Traci the I.U.D. 937 00:39:41,647 --> 00:39:45,784 And she told me it would be fine. 938 00:39:48,487 --> 00:39:49,655 (McCoy) Nothing further. 939 00:39:58,697 --> 00:39:59,931 She was convincing. 940 00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:01,667 Just to be safe, make sure we include 941 00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:02,934 Man Two in the jury instructions. 942 00:40:02,968 --> 00:40:04,970 I already tried. Robinette objected. 943 00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:06,905 After he said he'd accept it as a plea? 944 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:08,740 That was then. 945 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:11,042 The people made this political, Your Honor. 946 00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:12,811 They chose to up the ante to murder, 947 00:40:12,844 --> 00:40:14,212 but now they want to hedge. 948 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:16,014 Your Honor, we have met all the elements 949 00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:17,749 of Reckless Manslaughter. 950 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:21,086 I'm not sure you should have it both ways, Mr. McCoy. 951 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:22,988 The law allows them to consider all the options. 952 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:24,723 Not necessarily. 953 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,726 And I'm inclined to see them pressed to respond. 954 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:30,028 When the Nazis sent my father to Dachau, 955 00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:32,698 it was because people who knew it was wrong 956 00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,533 didn't get mad enough to stop it. 957 00:40:34,566 --> 00:40:37,836 Much as I would like them to, 958 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:39,938 the jury shouldn't have to believe 959 00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:44,543 Nurse Rhodes is Josef Mengele to think that she broke the law. 960 00:40:49,848 --> 00:40:52,684 You're right. 961 00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:55,220 I'll go with the prosecution's recommendation. 962 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,088 The jury may consider Man Two. 963 00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:07,733 (Judge Solomon) Have you reached a verdict? 964 00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:09,000 We have, Your Honor. 965 00:41:09,034 --> 00:41:11,036 What say you? 966 00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:12,804 On the first count of the indictment, 967 00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,205 Murder in the Second Degree, 968 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,875 We find the defendant Gloria Rhodes 969 00:41:16,908 --> 00:41:18,677 not guilty. 970 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:20,679 On the second count of the indictment, 971 00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:23,048 Manslaughter in the Second Degree, 972 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:25,517 we find the defendant guilty. 973 00:41:25,551 --> 00:41:29,855 (Judge Solomon) The court thanks the jurors for their service. 974 00:41:29,888 --> 00:41:33,592 Sentencing to take place tomorrow morning, 9:00 a.m. 975 00:41:33,625 --> 00:41:35,561 [bangs gavel] 976 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:44,202 We'll fight this on appeal. It isn't over. 977 00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:45,737 Far from it. 978 00:41:45,771 --> 00:41:48,173 We've filed charges relating to the other girls 979 00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:49,207 she sterilized. 980 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,742 And we're launching an investigation 981 00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:53,144 to determine the full extent to your client's crimes. 982 00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:55,947 You don't understand, Mr. McCoy. 983 00:41:55,981 --> 00:41:58,984 You don't see how these girls, these children, 984 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:00,986 treat their babies. 985 00:42:01,019 --> 00:42:03,789 I never meant to hurt her, but I couldn't risk it. 986 00:42:03,822 --> 00:42:07,292 The world doesn't need another Traci Sands. 987 00:42:07,325 --> 00:42:11,630 We found evidence that you've performed at least 988 00:42:11,663 --> 00:42:14,666 20 other forced sterilizations, Ms. Rhodes. 989 00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,869 What the world doesn't need is you. 990 00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:34,986 So why'd you take it, Paul? 991 00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:38,123 Why defend someone like Gloria Rhodes? 992 00:42:38,156 --> 00:42:42,227 I could give you reasons. 993 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:44,863 The good she's done with the clinic. 994 00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:48,299 Innocent until proven guilty. 995 00:42:48,333 --> 00:42:51,870 But tell me your job wouldn't be easier 996 00:42:51,903 --> 00:42:54,973 if people like Traci were never born. 997 00:42:55,006 --> 00:42:56,908 That the world wouldn't be a better place. 998 00:42:56,942 --> 00:42:59,845 I won't say that. 999 00:42:59,878 --> 00:43:01,980 You already did. 1000 00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:03,982 Gloria Rhodes isn't Josef Mengele. 1001 00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:06,017 [scoffs] 1002 00:43:06,051 --> 00:43:07,919 Nobody wants to admit 1003 00:43:07,953 --> 00:43:09,721 they think she did the right thing. 1004 00:43:09,755 --> 00:43:13,224 But if they look for it, you look for it, 1005 00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:16,895 deep down, it's there. 1006 00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:20,966 That deserves a defense. 1007 00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:26,772 Captioning by Peter at CaptionMax www.captionmax.com