1 00:00:05,673 --> 00:00:07,808 (male announcer) In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,841 --> 00:00:10,278 the people are represented by two separate 3 00:00:10,311 --> 00:00:12,113 yet equally important groups-- 4 00:00:12,146 --> 00:00:13,481 the police who investigate crime 5 00:00:13,514 --> 00:00:16,650 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:16,684 --> 00:00:18,252 These are their stories. 7 00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:22,156 (Paul) Debbie, I don't wanna get into it with you right now. 8 00:00:22,190 --> 00:00:25,126 I called for Katie. 9 00:00:25,159 --> 00:00:27,628 I got a right to talk to her, Deb. 10 00:00:27,661 --> 00:00:30,298 She's my daughter too. 11 00:00:30,331 --> 00:00:32,433 No, I am not drunk right now. 12 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:36,637 Oh, listen. Would you-- 13 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:39,039 Would you shut up for a second? 14 00:00:40,574 --> 00:00:43,411 This is the last time I'm gonna talk to her, okay? 15 00:00:43,444 --> 00:00:46,380 All I want to do is say good night to my kid, 16 00:00:46,414 --> 00:00:48,182 all right? 17 00:00:50,318 --> 00:00:52,453 I'm in hell already! 18 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:20,181 (Fire Marshal Woods) New redemption. Another church. 19 00:01:20,214 --> 00:01:22,150 (Cassady) That's, what, four churches in a week? 20 00:01:22,183 --> 00:01:23,317 (Woods) This makes five. 21 00:01:23,351 --> 00:01:24,518 (Green) Who called it in? 22 00:01:24,552 --> 00:01:26,154 Guy staying at the fleabag next door. 23 00:01:26,187 --> 00:01:28,189 Says he didn't see anyone leaving the scene. 24 00:01:28,222 --> 00:01:30,191 (Cassady) We're gonna need to speak to him. 25 00:01:30,224 --> 00:01:31,692 He's in Bellevue for smoke inhalation. 26 00:01:31,725 --> 00:01:34,295 Helped evac the hotel after he called 911. 27 00:01:34,328 --> 00:01:35,563 What time was the call? 28 00:01:35,596 --> 00:01:37,198 Right after 11:00. 29 00:01:37,231 --> 00:01:38,466 Fire must have started just before. 30 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:40,168 Wood pews, old carpet. 31 00:01:40,201 --> 00:01:42,303 With an accelerant, the place went up real fast. 32 00:01:42,336 --> 00:01:43,637 Just like the other ones. 33 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:46,607 Except this time our fire bug graduated to murder. 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,708 What you got, man? 35 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,410 (Assistant M.E. Sharlett) Not much. 36 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,212 Apparent male victim. Crispy critter. 37 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:52,480 (Cassady) Looks like he put up a fight. 38 00:01:52,513 --> 00:01:54,248 Well, that's called a pugilistic attitude. 39 00:01:54,282 --> 00:01:56,217 The heat contracts the arm muscles. 40 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:57,218 It's typical. 41 00:01:57,251 --> 00:01:58,051 Did you get an I.D.? 42 00:01:58,085 --> 00:01:59,920 His wallet melted into a hockey puck. 43 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:03,324 With his hands that cooked, prints are a long shot. 44 00:02:03,357 --> 00:02:04,725 Might get lucky with dental records. 45 00:02:04,758 --> 00:02:06,227 Fire was the cause of death? 46 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:07,495 It's too soon to tell. 47 00:02:07,528 --> 00:02:08,729 We'll know more when we get him on the table. 48 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:11,165 Thanks. 49 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:13,234 Imagine our victim saying his Hail Marys, 50 00:02:13,267 --> 00:02:14,402 and the place goes up. 51 00:02:14,435 --> 00:02:18,239 Or he saw somebody pouring gas on the altar and got caught. 52 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:23,211 Whoever did this is gonna burn too. 53 00:03:16,664 --> 00:03:17,631 (Woods) Looks like there were 54 00:03:17,665 --> 00:03:19,233 five points of origin at least, 55 00:03:19,267 --> 00:03:20,368 including where the body dropped. 56 00:03:20,401 --> 00:03:21,335 You can still smell the accelerant. 57 00:03:21,369 --> 00:03:22,936 (Green) Do you know what the accelerant was? 58 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:23,871 Not till we run the labs. 59 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:26,307 Pretty intense blaze. Probably gasoline. 60 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:27,241 So other than our victim here, 61 00:03:27,275 --> 00:03:29,943 all these church burnings had the same M.O. 62 00:03:29,977 --> 00:03:32,546 Forcible entry with a gasoline fire in the sanctuary. 63 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,315 And this one? 64 00:03:34,348 --> 00:03:35,283 Looks the same so far. 65 00:03:35,316 --> 00:03:36,384 The caretaker of the church 66 00:03:36,417 --> 00:03:38,386 said that when he locked up at 10:30, it was empty. 67 00:03:38,419 --> 00:03:40,688 So maybe our DOA is the arsonist? 68 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:42,323 One of 'em, at least. 69 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:43,257 We're looking at multiple suspects. 70 00:03:43,291 --> 00:03:44,091 We pulled this off 71 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:46,427 a pole camera near the third fire. 72 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:49,330 Trinity Lutheran in Washington Heights. 73 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,301 Our victim could be either one of these dudes. 74 00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:55,403 We also have a witness from the first fire 75 00:03:55,436 --> 00:03:57,671 who thinks she saw a black SUV fleeing the scene. 76 00:03:57,705 --> 00:04:00,274 No plate, but it had a dented front left fender 77 00:04:00,308 --> 00:04:02,476 and some kind of bumper sticker on the tail. 78 00:04:02,510 --> 00:04:04,612 Well, the commissioner's doing a press conference at noon. 79 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:07,381 Let's put this out there and see if any tips come in. 80 00:04:07,415 --> 00:04:09,683 Sure. I'll keep you apprised of any progress on our end. 81 00:04:09,717 --> 00:04:10,918 Excellent. 82 00:04:10,951 --> 00:04:13,421 Hey, Lieu, canvass is a bust so far. 83 00:04:13,454 --> 00:04:15,323 911 caller saw nothing but flames. 84 00:04:15,356 --> 00:04:16,324 And others I talked to 85 00:04:16,357 --> 00:04:18,492 said the block gets pretty quiet after 10:00. 86 00:04:18,526 --> 00:04:19,460 Streets are empty. 87 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:21,529 Well, let's get Rodgers to make a quick I.D. 88 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:22,730 We can start from there. 89 00:04:22,763 --> 00:04:24,332 All right, in the meantime, 90 00:04:24,365 --> 00:04:27,034 see if these churches have anything in common. 91 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,340 (Pastor Shea) Religion is under attack in this country. 92 00:04:32,373 --> 00:04:34,342 The war on Christmas, gay marriage-- 93 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:36,344 Look, I can understand your frustration, Pastor, but-- 94 00:04:36,377 --> 00:04:37,578 Don't dismiss it. 95 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:39,947 They've already removed prayer from our schools. 96 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:42,049 The Ten Commandments are gone from our courthouses. 97 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:44,452 Burning churches is the inevitable next step. 98 00:04:44,485 --> 00:04:46,420 Okay, right now we need to focus 99 00:04:46,454 --> 00:04:48,622 on catching the people that set this fire. 100 00:04:48,656 --> 00:04:51,559 So do you recognize either of them? 101 00:04:51,592 --> 00:04:55,363 No. But we had a lot of people here last night. 102 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:57,598 We weren't aware that there was a service last night. 103 00:04:57,631 --> 00:04:59,700 We hosted a basketball game against Christian Path Academy. 104 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:01,369 (Cassady) What time did that end? 105 00:05:01,402 --> 00:05:02,770 Everyone was gone by 9:30. 106 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:04,338 [cell phone beeps] 107 00:05:04,372 --> 00:05:07,508 We're gonna need contact names for both teams. 108 00:05:07,541 --> 00:05:09,443 M.E.'s got something. 109 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:12,346 One finger on his left hand didn't get the full broil, 110 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:14,415 so we were able to get a partial print. 111 00:05:14,448 --> 00:05:15,416 Enough for an I.D.? 112 00:05:15,449 --> 00:05:16,283 Charles Nash. 113 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:18,786 New York public schools had him on file. 114 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,588 Photo's a few years old. 115 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:21,755 He's a schoolteacher. 116 00:05:21,789 --> 00:05:23,391 And a possible arsonist? 117 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:24,525 I doubt it. 118 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,026 Multiple skull fractures 119 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,429 consistent with blunt force trauma. 120 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:29,763 No soot in his airways. 121 00:05:29,797 --> 00:05:32,032 No carbon monoxide in his blood. 122 00:05:32,065 --> 00:05:34,067 So he was dead before he was burned. 123 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:36,970 Hmm. 124 00:05:37,004 --> 00:05:38,105 (Cassady) Nash is the coach for the visiting team 125 00:05:38,138 --> 00:05:41,409 that played at the church-- Christian Path Academy, 126 00:05:41,442 --> 00:05:42,676 a parochial school on the west side. 127 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:44,412 He also taught biology there. 128 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:47,381 Well, the fire didn't start until around 11:00. 129 00:05:47,415 --> 00:05:48,749 Why would he be there that late? 130 00:05:48,782 --> 00:05:50,418 Well, game didn't wrap till 9:30, 131 00:05:50,451 --> 00:05:52,420 and the other coach said Nash was still packing up 132 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:53,554 when he left at 10:00. 133 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:54,788 So what, you think Nash 134 00:05:54,822 --> 00:05:56,590 caught the arsonists in the act 135 00:05:56,624 --> 00:05:58,125 and tried to intervene? 136 00:05:58,158 --> 00:05:59,793 Well, M.E. said he got hit pretty hard 137 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:01,128 on the face and head. 138 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:02,596 Suggests some kind of struggle. 139 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:03,564 (Green) Hey! 140 00:06:03,597 --> 00:06:05,799 Nash rents an apartment in the East Village. 141 00:06:05,833 --> 00:06:08,536 The super says he lived with a girl named Kristin Saunders. 142 00:06:08,569 --> 00:06:09,537 Girlfriend? Yeah. 143 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:10,804 Guess she's wondering why 144 00:06:10,838 --> 00:06:13,073 he didn't come home last night. 145 00:06:16,143 --> 00:06:18,111 (Kristen) Are you saying 146 00:06:18,145 --> 00:06:20,848 he burned? 147 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:22,483 Alive? 148 00:06:22,516 --> 00:06:23,784 (Green) We don't think so. 149 00:06:23,817 --> 00:06:25,185 It looks like he fought somebody 150 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,521 before the fire. 151 00:06:27,555 --> 00:06:29,490 Those church arsons? 152 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:31,492 (Cassady) They could be related. 153 00:06:31,525 --> 00:06:34,662 Unless Charlie was having some trouble with anyone? 154 00:06:34,695 --> 00:06:36,497 No. 155 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:38,499 Any problems at work? 156 00:06:40,601 --> 00:06:42,770 Charlie didn't see problems. 157 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:47,107 He was very passionate about his work. 158 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:49,543 [cell phone rings] 159 00:06:49,577 --> 00:06:52,746 Did he get along with the other teachers? 160 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:54,482 Mm-hmm. Cassady. 161 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:56,049 And the kids. 162 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:59,052 He said that they were really responding to him. 163 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:03,190 Why would somebody want to burn a church? 164 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:06,860 (Green) Again, we're really sorry. 165 00:07:06,894 --> 00:07:08,796 And, uh... 166 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:10,798 if you can think of anything else, 167 00:07:10,831 --> 00:07:12,466 give us a call, all right? 168 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,667 Anything. 169 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:19,507 Uniform thinks they've located the vehicle. 170 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:23,110 (male uniform) Black, dented fender, 171 00:07:23,143 --> 00:07:25,513 bumper sticker, but no plates. 172 00:07:25,546 --> 00:07:27,648 And the VIN on the dash was scratched out. 173 00:07:27,681 --> 00:07:29,082 Did you check on the doorjamb? 174 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:30,718 Yeah, and called it into the DMV. 175 00:07:30,751 --> 00:07:32,620 Uh, registered owner is an Emily Ward, 176 00:07:32,653 --> 00:07:33,754 44 years old. 177 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:36,189 Address in Poughkeepsie. 178 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:38,492 And she's into death metal? 179 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:39,527 Was it reported stolen? 180 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,728 Nope. 181 00:07:40,761 --> 00:07:42,663 Ugh. You smell that gas? 182 00:07:42,696 --> 00:07:44,598 Uh, yeah. 183 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:47,768 Well, looks like it's pretty well cleaned out. 184 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:50,103 Well, we found the getaway car. 185 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:55,509 (Green) Jason Ward. 186 00:07:55,543 --> 00:07:57,711 Hey. Detective Green. 187 00:07:57,745 --> 00:07:59,580 This is my partner, Detective Cassady. 188 00:07:59,613 --> 00:08:02,650 Listen, you drive your mom's SUV? 189 00:08:02,683 --> 00:08:04,552 Yeah. Did you find it? 190 00:08:04,585 --> 00:08:05,819 Right where you left it. 191 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:08,656 No, my car was stolen like a month ago. 192 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:10,691 You didn't report it stolen. 193 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:12,726 And, uh, who are you? 194 00:08:14,294 --> 00:08:15,696 Todd. 195 00:08:15,729 --> 00:08:18,532 I really like that hoodie, Todd. 196 00:08:18,566 --> 00:08:20,801 I think I've seen that somewhere before. 197 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,202 I didn't report it stolen 198 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:23,971 'cause I knew my dad would get pissed. 199 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:26,774 He didn't want me to bring it in the city in the first place. 200 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:28,709 Um, thought something bad would happen to it. 201 00:08:28,742 --> 00:08:30,844 You got a parking ticket on it last week. 202 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:33,146 And you paid for it. With your credit card. 203 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,982 Had your name on it. 204 00:08:35,015 --> 00:08:36,817 Come on. 205 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,919 This is crazy. You got the wrong guys. 206 00:08:38,952 --> 00:08:40,988 We found tire tread marks at three of those church fires 207 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:42,556 that match your ride, bro. 208 00:08:42,590 --> 00:08:43,991 I don't know what you're talking about. 209 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:45,559 Then let's start with last night. 210 00:08:45,593 --> 00:08:46,694 Where were you? 211 00:08:46,727 --> 00:08:48,796 In the dorm studying. 212 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:51,565 Did anyone see you? 213 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:54,702 My roommate came by with a couple of girls. 214 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:57,605 Please. We didn't do this. 215 00:08:57,638 --> 00:08:58,939 Get smart one more time, I'm gonna smack the snot outta you. 216 00:08:58,972 --> 00:09:00,608 Look, man-- No, you look, you little bastard! 217 00:09:00,641 --> 00:09:02,275 We're trying to help you. 218 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:04,612 Now drop your attitude and show some respect. 219 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:05,813 We got five fires and a body, Jason. 220 00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:07,314 You better come up with five alibis, 221 00:09:07,347 --> 00:09:08,716 or we got you by the balls. 222 00:09:08,749 --> 00:09:09,817 Wha--ask around campus. 223 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:11,218 There's plenty of people who'll tell you 224 00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:12,653 they saw me each one of those nights. 225 00:09:12,686 --> 00:09:14,722 And after we search their rooms 226 00:09:14,755 --> 00:09:16,356 and find their bags of weed and throw them in jail, 227 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:17,891 you still think they'll lie for you then? 228 00:09:17,925 --> 00:09:19,727 We didn't do anything. 229 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,729 We're not talking about some arson charge here. 230 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:24,632 A man is dead, Todd. You committed murder. 231 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:25,699 We had nothing to do with that fire. 232 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:27,701 That fire? What about the other four? 233 00:09:27,735 --> 00:09:30,604 No, all of them. I-it wasn't us. 234 00:09:31,672 --> 00:09:35,308 Boy, if you lie to me one more time, 235 00:09:35,342 --> 00:09:36,910 I'm walking out that door, 236 00:09:36,944 --> 00:09:39,713 and any hope you got walks out with me. 237 00:09:39,747 --> 00:09:41,649 Last chance. 238 00:09:41,682 --> 00:09:43,684 Who started the first fire? 239 00:09:48,689 --> 00:09:49,690 Jason. 240 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:53,794 Were you there? 241 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:57,698 Yeah. 242 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:02,703 A church. 243 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:05,272 How could you? 244 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:07,407 We were high on a bunch of blow, 245 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,842 and we decided to burn one. 246 00:10:08,876 --> 00:10:10,343 And it felt great, 247 00:10:10,377 --> 00:10:11,278 so we decided to do another one. 248 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:14,014 Did it feel good to kill Charles Nash too? 249 00:10:14,047 --> 00:10:15,749 That wasn't us. Swear to God. 250 00:10:15,783 --> 00:10:17,350 And Todd saw that on the news and flipped out, 251 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:19,086 so we had to ditch our car. 252 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:21,021 Why the hell should we believe you? 253 00:10:21,054 --> 00:10:23,657 'Cause there's a guy in the dorms that deals coke. 254 00:10:23,691 --> 00:10:26,026 And we were partying with him all night 255 00:10:26,059 --> 00:10:28,395 and about... five other people. 256 00:10:34,902 --> 00:10:39,006 I want the names. All of them. 257 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:40,073 (Green) Lieu. Yeah. 258 00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:42,743 Fire Marshal sent over the lab results for site five. 259 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:44,745 The accelerant was turpentine, not gasoline. 260 00:10:44,778 --> 00:10:45,846 The last arson was a copycat. 261 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,781 So we've got our firebugs, 262 00:10:47,815 --> 00:10:49,817 but if they're telling the truth, 263 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:52,753 we're still looking for a murderer. 264 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:57,457 (Principal Hill) The whole school's in shock. 265 00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:59,392 Mr. Nash was a terrific teacher and a great guy. 266 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:00,894 I still can't believe this. 267 00:11:00,928 --> 00:11:02,429 So this is a Catholic school? 268 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:04,264 We're a nondenominational Christian academy. 269 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:06,299 Students of all beliefs are welcome here. 270 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:07,167 Nash's girlfriend said 271 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,836 that he wasn't much of a churchgoer. 272 00:11:08,869 --> 00:11:10,303 Was that an issue with him? 273 00:11:10,337 --> 00:11:11,872 Not for teaching science. 274 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:13,741 Did he have any problems here? 275 00:11:13,774 --> 00:11:14,975 Nothing out of the ordinary. 276 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,977 A minor argument with a teacher here, 277 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:19,012 an angry parent there. 278 00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:20,781 Who's Jacob Reese? 279 00:11:20,814 --> 00:11:23,383 Uh, Mary Reese's father. 280 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:24,417 She's a sophomore. 281 00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:26,053 One of Nash's students? 282 00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:27,287 Yes. 283 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,758 Well, it looks like he left about four messages last week. 284 00:11:30,791 --> 00:11:33,326 Any idea why he was in such a hurry to talk to Nash? 285 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,831 Yeah, my daughter told me what happened. 286 00:11:37,865 --> 00:11:39,299 I'm praying for his family. 287 00:11:39,332 --> 00:11:41,969 (Cassady) You and Nash knew each other, Mr. Reese? 288 00:11:42,002 --> 00:11:43,837 Not really. He was my kid's biology teacher. 289 00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:45,072 Did you talk to him recently? 290 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,941 A couple days ago about him flunking Mary on a term paper. 291 00:11:47,975 --> 00:11:49,509 Well, I imagine you were pretty upset. 292 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:51,411 Well, yeah, Mary's smart. 293 00:11:51,444 --> 00:11:53,380 I mean, tested off the charts in middle school. 294 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:54,815 And I didn't want to see him 295 00:11:54,848 --> 00:11:56,383 ruin her chances at a scholarship. 296 00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:58,518 Did you meet Nash in person? 297 00:11:58,551 --> 00:11:59,987 Uh, yeah, at the school. 298 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:01,154 Yeah, how'd that go? 299 00:12:01,188 --> 00:12:01,989 Oh, good. 300 00:12:02,022 --> 00:12:03,924 He agreed to let Mary do extra credit 301 00:12:03,957 --> 00:12:05,025 to make up the grade. 302 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:06,426 We shook hands, and that was that. 303 00:12:06,459 --> 00:12:08,962 Any of the other parents have a problem with Nash? 304 00:12:08,996 --> 00:12:10,430 Not that I heard of. 305 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:11,631 Everyone's pretty nice. 306 00:12:11,664 --> 00:12:15,368 You might want to take a look at his personal life, though. 307 00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:17,370 Now why would you say that? 308 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:20,173 Yeah, just rumors. Booze, women. 309 00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:22,175 I don't think he was as straight-laced 310 00:12:22,209 --> 00:12:23,811 as he wanted people to believe. 311 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:25,378 [cell phone ringing] Excuse me. 312 00:12:28,448 --> 00:12:29,416 All right, thanks, man. 313 00:12:29,449 --> 00:12:30,650 Hey--thanks. 314 00:12:30,683 --> 00:12:33,420 Looks like Reese might have been right about Nash's wild side. 315 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:35,455 You got a hit on the LUDS? Yep, Allison Dale. 316 00:12:35,488 --> 00:12:37,490 She called him three times a day before he was murdered. 317 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:39,059 And? She got two priors. 318 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:41,461 One for possession, the other for solicitation. 319 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:42,395 Nice. 320 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,569 I wasn't screwing Mr. Nash. 321 00:12:49,602 --> 00:12:51,071 Then why were you calling him, Allison? 322 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:53,473 Could you please not say my real name? 323 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:56,476 My kid goes to Christian Path, all right? 324 00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:58,378 So you're just a concerned parent? 325 00:12:58,411 --> 00:13:00,380 I don't hook or get high anymore. 326 00:13:00,413 --> 00:13:02,515 I'm only doing this to make tuition. 327 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:03,583 (Cassady) That doesn't explain 328 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:05,585 why you have Nash's cell phone. 329 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:08,488 It's on the contact sheet for the basketball team. 330 00:13:08,521 --> 00:13:10,490 My son Chris plays point guard, 331 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:11,959 and he's really great too. 332 00:13:11,992 --> 00:13:13,393 But Nash kept benching him 333 00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:15,495 to give the weaker kids a chance. 334 00:13:15,528 --> 00:13:16,429 That's why you were calling him, 335 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:18,498 to get your son more playing time? Yes. 336 00:13:18,531 --> 00:13:20,067 Were you at your son's basketball game 337 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:21,468 the night of the murder? 338 00:13:21,501 --> 00:13:23,070 I wish. I was here. 339 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:26,139 Ask the bouncers if you don't believe me. 340 00:13:26,173 --> 00:13:28,008 Okay; can you think of any reason 341 00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:30,443 anybody would want to hurt Mr. Nash? 342 00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:32,512 You mean aside from that whole intelligent design thing? 343 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:34,414 What are you talking about? 344 00:13:34,447 --> 00:13:37,517 There was this big brouhaha about three months back. 345 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:38,518 This parents' group 346 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:40,921 wanted creation science taught in the classroom. 347 00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:42,890 They wanted stickers questioning evolution 348 00:13:42,923 --> 00:13:44,524 added to the textbooks. 349 00:13:44,557 --> 00:13:45,492 And Nash was against it. 350 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:46,626 Big time. 351 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:49,229 I hear he got into a shouting match with a bunch of 'em 352 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:50,297 at a school board meeting. 353 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,632 Do you know how we can get a hold of this group? 354 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:55,035 Yeah, Parents for Honest Education. 355 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,636 Leader's name is Claudia Murphy. 356 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,638 Look, i-if you talk to her, 357 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:00,941 please don't tell her what I do. 358 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:04,912 Evolution is a theory, not a fact. 359 00:14:04,945 --> 00:14:07,547 All we're asking is that our children be exposed 360 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:08,982 to all points of view. 361 00:14:09,016 --> 00:14:10,583 Yeah, we heard that some of your members 362 00:14:10,617 --> 00:14:13,887 were "asking" Charles Nash at the top of their lungs. 363 00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:16,089 A few spirited debates, nothing more. 364 00:14:16,123 --> 00:14:17,224 Still, we're gonna need a list 365 00:14:17,257 --> 00:14:18,491 of all the parents in your group. 366 00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:20,894 If you want to find Nash's killer, 367 00:14:20,928 --> 00:14:23,030 try looking into his personal life. 368 00:14:23,063 --> 00:14:24,564 There were rumors. (Green) We did. 369 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,466 We need the list. 370 00:14:26,499 --> 00:14:28,568 Well, I'm not going to give it to you. 371 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:30,270 This is a religious organization, 372 00:14:30,303 --> 00:14:33,506 and I believe our members have the right to privacy. 373 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:36,476 [school bell rings] 374 00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:38,511 This is an intellectual debate about school policy. 375 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:39,612 It's hardly grounds for murder. 376 00:14:39,646 --> 00:14:41,614 I don't think I need to tell you this, 377 00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:42,983 but people get a little crazy about religion. 378 00:14:43,016 --> 00:14:44,017 Not these people. 379 00:14:44,051 --> 00:14:44,952 They're just parents 380 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:46,619 who are trying to do right by their kids. 381 00:14:46,653 --> 00:14:48,688 Please-- 382 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:50,557 I don't want this in the papers. 383 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:51,491 Claudia Murphy. 384 00:14:51,524 --> 00:14:54,061 She refused to give us a list of the members. 385 00:14:54,094 --> 00:14:56,263 You know any of the names of the people in the group? 386 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:57,965 I don't have that information. 387 00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:05,072 But I do have the petition that they sent. 388 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:06,239 [opens drawer] 389 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:15,983 Look at the third name. 390 00:15:17,217 --> 00:15:18,251 Jacob Reese. 391 00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:20,988 He told us that he was working on something with Nash 392 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,523 so that his daughter Mary would get a passing grade. 393 00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:24,992 Can you verify that? 394 00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:28,695 [typing] 395 00:15:30,697 --> 00:15:32,532 As of right now, 396 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,334 she still has a failing grade. 397 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:38,171 Okay. 398 00:15:38,205 --> 00:15:40,573 We need to talk to Mary. 399 00:15:40,607 --> 00:15:42,976 Now. 400 00:15:43,010 --> 00:15:45,612 The paper was supposed to be about evolution, 401 00:15:45,645 --> 00:15:47,247 and I wrote mine on the evidence 402 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,149 for intelligent design. 403 00:15:49,182 --> 00:15:51,651 Mr. Nash gave me an F. 404 00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:53,020 How did your dad feel about that? 405 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:54,221 He was worried that it would 406 00:15:54,254 --> 00:15:55,989 keep me out of college. 407 00:15:56,023 --> 00:15:58,125 He tried to talk to Mr. Nash, 408 00:15:58,158 --> 00:16:01,061 but Nash wouldn't change the grade. 409 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:03,563 It was no big deal. 410 00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:05,698 (Cassady) See, it actually is now, 411 00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:07,300 because your dad said 412 00:16:07,334 --> 00:16:10,570 that Mr. Nash was gonna let you do extra credit. 413 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:12,605 Right. 414 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,674 I mean, he wouldn't change the grade 415 00:16:14,707 --> 00:16:16,709 until I did the extra credit. 416 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:19,146 He died before I got the assignment. 417 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:21,181 So... 418 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:23,150 Where was your dad the night Mr. Nash was killed? 419 00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:25,285 He was home all night. 420 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,687 With me. We were watching TV. 421 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,855 [cell phone rings] 422 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:30,690 (Green) What were you watching? 423 00:16:30,723 --> 00:16:33,593 Just, um, flipping through channels. 424 00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:35,595 Your dad said you were watching a movie. 425 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:38,765 Oh, yeah. That's right. 426 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:41,634 You lied twice. 427 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:44,371 I don't recommend you do it a third time. 428 00:16:44,404 --> 00:16:45,638 Now, what's going on? 429 00:16:47,074 --> 00:16:48,641 Uh, I wanna see my dad. 430 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:52,612 Can you hold her in your office, 431 00:16:52,645 --> 00:16:54,614 and don't let her use the phone? 432 00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:57,317 Come on, Mary. 433 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,819 [school bell rings] 434 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,654 Reese's cell phone records show 435 00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:03,723 two calls the night of the murder. 436 00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:06,059 Both hit off towers near the crime scene. 437 00:17:06,093 --> 00:17:08,661 Let's hope that's enough to get a warrant. 438 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:14,901 Detectives. 439 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,436 We have a warrant to search your apartment. For what? 440 00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:17,470 Why didn't you tell us 441 00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:19,439 you called Charles Nash the night he was killed? 442 00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:21,274 I didn't, I must have dialed a wrong number. 443 00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:22,675 Can you explain why you dialed the wrong number 444 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:24,111 all the way across town, 445 00:17:24,144 --> 00:17:25,478 a block away from where he was murdered? 446 00:17:25,512 --> 00:17:27,480 I don't have to explain anything. 447 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,382 (Cassady) Yeah, you do. Check this out, Ed. 448 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:30,350 Turpentine. 449 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:33,220 I use it for my business. I restore furniture. 450 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,787 And to burn the occasional church? 451 00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:36,256 I would never do that. 452 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:38,691 Didn't anyone tell you it's a sin to lie? 453 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:41,794 You're under arrest for the murder of Charles Nash. 454 00:17:41,828 --> 00:17:43,496 You have the right to remain silent. 455 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:45,665 Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law. 456 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:49,102 (clerk) Docket number 61509, 457 00:17:49,136 --> 00:17:51,138 People v. Jacob Matthew Reese. 458 00:17:51,171 --> 00:17:52,539 Charges are murder in the second degree 459 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:53,806 and arson, third degree. 460 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,575 How does the defendant please? 461 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:56,709 Not guilty, Your Honor. 462 00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:57,877 Bail, Ms. Rubirosa? 463 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,213 People seek remand, Your Honor. 464 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:02,215 Mr. Reese beat Charles Nash to death 465 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,351 and tried to cover up the crime by burning a church. 466 00:18:04,384 --> 00:18:06,619 (Rowen) My client is the sole supporter of his teenaged daughter. 467 00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:08,588 He's not a flight risk, Your Honor. 468 00:18:08,621 --> 00:18:10,223 And the only evidence against him 469 00:18:10,257 --> 00:18:12,525 is some turpentine he uses in his work as a carpenter. 470 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,327 We also have proof of animus. 471 00:18:14,361 --> 00:18:16,229 The victim was teaching evolution 472 00:18:16,263 --> 00:18:18,531 to Mr. Reese's daughter against his wishes. 473 00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:20,233 (Rowen) That doesn't make him a religious zealot. 474 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:21,734 (Rubirosa) This flyer was created 475 00:18:21,768 --> 00:18:23,903 on the defendant's computer. 476 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,905 "Those who teach evolution to our children 477 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,640 shall burn for their sins." 478 00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:29,309 That's a reference to God's judgment. 479 00:18:29,342 --> 00:18:31,178 Or, more likely, a threat. 480 00:18:31,211 --> 00:18:33,746 Copies were sent anonymously to the victim 481 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,149 at his home and at his classroom. 482 00:18:36,183 --> 00:18:38,251 Mr. Reese can't take care of his daughter from Rikers Island. 483 00:18:38,285 --> 00:18:40,320 Bail set at 500,000. 484 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:42,355 [bangs gavel] 485 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:45,292 Do we really think this man killed over a school curriculum? 486 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:47,294 Reese became a born-again Christian 487 00:18:47,327 --> 00:18:49,362 after his wife died last year. 488 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:51,231 And he founded a parents' group 489 00:18:51,264 --> 00:18:52,765 that was in conflict with Nash. 490 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,267 That doesn't make him a murderer. 491 00:18:54,301 --> 00:18:55,802 Yeah, but there have been extremists 492 00:18:55,835 --> 00:18:57,304 that targeted abortion providers. 493 00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:59,272 Well, why not evolution teachers? 494 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:00,873 I'm not saying it's impossible, 495 00:19:00,907 --> 00:19:02,409 but the person you're describing 496 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:03,710 doesn't sound like the same person 497 00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:05,945 who'd set fire to a church. 498 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:07,314 Is there any other reason 499 00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:10,283 Reese would go after his daughter's teacher? 500 00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:11,851 I'm meeting with Mary's guidance counselor 501 00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:13,620 this afternoon. 502 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,322 It's so sad about Mr. Nash. 503 00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:18,425 I understand you were close with the Reese family. 504 00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:20,360 Well, when Mary transferred here, 505 00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:22,229 it was just after they'd lost Mrs. Reese. 506 00:19:22,262 --> 00:19:25,698 Mary and her father were having a pretty tough go of it. 507 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:28,768 You know, Jacob's a good man. 508 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:29,902 I can't believe he did this. 509 00:19:29,936 --> 00:19:33,340 So you think he's guilty. 510 00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:37,210 No, I mean, I think that's for a jury to decide. 511 00:19:38,645 --> 00:19:40,613 Did Mary ever say anything to you 512 00:19:40,647 --> 00:19:42,449 about her father and Mr. Nash having problems? 513 00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:45,318 I'm not entirely comfortable with this. 514 00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:47,854 These students come to me in confidence. 515 00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:49,689 I'm sure that you're aware there is no privilege 516 00:19:49,722 --> 00:19:51,358 protecting what she told you. 517 00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:52,792 You'd subpoena me? 518 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:54,261 I don't want to, Mr. Thornton, 519 00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:55,728 but one of your colleagues was murdered. 520 00:19:55,762 --> 00:19:56,996 If you know something, 521 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,665 it's your responsibility to come forward. 522 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:05,372 I promised her I wouldn't say anything, but... 523 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,340 a few months before this happened, 524 00:20:07,374 --> 00:20:10,009 Mary told me that Nash was hitting on her. 525 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:12,011 And you didn't report it? 526 00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,112 Mary begged me not to. 527 00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:16,716 She said it was her fault, that she'd flirted with him. 528 00:20:16,749 --> 00:20:19,752 Considering the rumors about Nash and women, 529 00:20:19,786 --> 00:20:22,655 he could have manipulated her into thinking that. 530 00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:24,357 Did anything actually happen between them? 531 00:20:24,391 --> 00:20:25,358 She wouldn't tell me. 532 00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:29,429 But that was the last time she came in to see me. 533 00:20:29,462 --> 00:20:31,398 Nothing happened with Mr. Nash. 534 00:20:31,431 --> 00:20:32,665 (Rubirosa) You told Mr. Thornton 535 00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:34,301 that he had made advances towards you. 536 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:35,768 I never said that. 537 00:20:35,802 --> 00:20:37,804 Or maybe you're not telling us the truth 538 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:39,439 to protect your father. 539 00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:41,741 My father didn't kill him. 540 00:20:41,774 --> 00:20:43,410 But he was angry at Mr. Nash. 541 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:44,777 Because of the evolution stuff that he taught us. 542 00:20:44,811 --> 00:20:46,012 Or was it because you told him 543 00:20:46,045 --> 00:20:48,381 that you were having sex with Mr. Nash? 544 00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:49,682 No! 545 00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:53,520 Mind if I crash your little arm-twisting party? 546 00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:55,054 What are you doing here, Danielle? 547 00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:57,056 I'm now the counsel of record for Jacob Reese. 548 00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:59,025 And I don't want you talking to the people 549 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:00,927 who are trying to put your father in jail. 550 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,529 I can ask her the same questions 551 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:03,530 in the grand jury. 552 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:04,964 You do that. 553 00:21:04,997 --> 00:21:07,434 Time to go back to class now, honey. 554 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,442 (Reese) Trying to turn a child against her father. 555 00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:17,444 This is how you seek justice. 556 00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:18,511 (McCoy) You're in no position 557 00:21:18,545 --> 00:21:20,513 to lecture on morality, Mr. Reese. 558 00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:22,281 Boys, boys. 559 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:24,817 What are we doing here, Jack? 560 00:21:24,851 --> 00:21:26,319 You tell me. 561 00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:30,457 He'll plead to the arson to cover all charges. 562 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:31,891 Not a chance. 563 00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:35,362 I feel terrible about what happened to that church. 564 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:36,829 I'm trying to do the right thing. 565 00:21:36,863 --> 00:21:39,432 Then take responsibility for murdering Charles Nash. 566 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,568 Our case against your client 567 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:43,436 is getting stronger. 568 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:44,671 We have reason to believe 569 00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:47,840 that the victim was having sex with Mr. Reese's daughter. 570 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:49,376 That is a lie. That is a-- 571 00:21:49,409 --> 00:21:50,710 [whispering] Jacob. 572 00:21:50,743 --> 00:21:51,911 (McCoy) So all this talk about Charles Darwin 573 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:54,947 and the school curriculum is entirely beside the point. 574 00:21:54,981 --> 00:21:56,583 (Melnick) Not exactly. 575 00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:58,885 We're asserting a justification defense. 576 00:22:00,953 --> 00:22:02,054 He's admitting to the murder. 577 00:22:02,088 --> 00:22:03,456 It's not murder if you're trying 578 00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:04,991 to save the life of a third party. 579 00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:06,459 In this case, his daughter. 580 00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:08,461 Nash was attacking Mary. Mm-hmm. 581 00:22:08,495 --> 00:22:10,363 We have two witnesses who put Mary at home 582 00:22:10,397 --> 00:22:11,831 while Reese was out killing him. 583 00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:13,132 (Melnick) She doesn't have to be physically present 584 00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:14,133 to be in jeopardy. 585 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:16,035 So how could her life possibly be in danger? 586 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:17,069 What was the threat? 587 00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:18,971 Divine retribution. 588 00:22:21,408 --> 00:22:22,942 Excuse me? 589 00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:23,843 Like many Americans, 590 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:26,413 Jacob Reese believes in an all-powerful God 591 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:27,814 who punishes nonbelievers. 592 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:28,915 (Reese) He didn't hesitate 593 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:32,519 to turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt. 594 00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:35,788 Are you serious? 595 00:22:35,822 --> 00:22:36,756 In my client's eyes, 596 00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:38,925 Nash was placing his daughter in mortal danger 597 00:22:38,958 --> 00:22:40,793 by teaching her evolution. 598 00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:43,095 So you're claiming that Jacob Reese 599 00:22:43,129 --> 00:22:46,098 had to kill Charles Nash... 600 00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:49,536 to protect his daughter from the wrath of God? 601 00:22:49,569 --> 00:22:50,637 That's what he believes. 602 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:51,904 (Rubirosa) The law requires 603 00:22:51,938 --> 00:22:54,006 that he perceive a physical threat, 604 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,174 not just imagine one. 605 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:57,577 My faith is not imaginary. 606 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:02,114 This is preposterous, Danielle. 607 00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:04,817 This will never see the light of day. 608 00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:11,023 (Judge Glover) Divine retribution? 609 00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:12,559 You can't be serious, Ms. Melnick. 610 00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:14,160 Your Honor, the justification statute 611 00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:15,928 permits the use of deadly force 612 00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:18,598 in the defense of another person. 613 00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:20,032 From the threat of deadly physical force 614 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:21,934 that's both real and immediate. 615 00:23:21,968 --> 00:23:24,671 (Melnick) Jacob Reese perceived exactly that. 616 00:23:24,704 --> 00:23:26,439 By threatening his daughter's faith, 617 00:23:26,473 --> 00:23:28,908 Nash was placing her in imminent danger 618 00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:30,610 of serious bodily injury. 619 00:23:30,643 --> 00:23:32,111 From what, a bolt of lightning? 620 00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:35,147 Your Honor, my client believes 621 00:23:35,181 --> 00:23:37,083 that an act of God could have struck his daughter down 622 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:39,085 at any moment if Nash wasn't stopped. 623 00:23:39,118 --> 00:23:41,688 Stopped from teaching her about evolution 624 00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:44,223 or stopped from having sex with her? 625 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:47,860 If Mr. McCoy has any proof that they were intimate, 626 00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:49,095 let's see it. 627 00:23:49,128 --> 00:23:50,963 Even if you bought their twisted logic, 628 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:53,566 it's only an argument for justification of killing God, 629 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,001 not Charles Nash. 630 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,703 (Melnick) In my client's eyes, 631 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:58,671 Nash was the driving force 632 00:23:58,705 --> 00:23:59,672 pushing Mary towards God's reproach 633 00:23:59,706 --> 00:24:02,041 as surely as if he were pushing her off a cliff. 634 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:03,510 What about the fact that the defendant 635 00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:05,912 burned down a church to cover up his righteous act? 636 00:24:05,945 --> 00:24:07,614 The People v. Flores. 637 00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:08,848 "An attempt to conceal a crime 638 00:24:08,881 --> 00:24:11,584 does not prohibit the assertion of a justification defense." 639 00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:12,585 (McCoy) In this case, 640 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,554 it demonstrates that the defense 641 00:24:14,587 --> 00:24:16,589 is a complete fraud. 642 00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:17,990 That's for the jury to decide. 643 00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:19,892 (McCoy) How does the defense 644 00:24:19,926 --> 00:24:21,994 expect to prove this fairy tale? 645 00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:24,731 By establishing Jacob Reese's profound religious faith. 646 00:24:24,764 --> 00:24:26,699 So we're just supposed to take his word for it. 647 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:28,935 (Melnick) The United States Supreme Court has held 648 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:30,269 that the First Amendment prohibits the courts 649 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,204 from determining the validity of religious beliefs. 650 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,041 Men may believe what they cannot prove. 651 00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:36,909 U.S. v. Ballard. 652 00:24:39,178 --> 00:24:41,147 It's a subjective standard, Mr. McCoy. 653 00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:43,650 You and I may not believe it's reasonable, 654 00:24:43,683 --> 00:24:47,620 but if the defense can establish Mr. Reese does-- 655 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:50,122 Then it's the basis for an insanity defense, 656 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:51,624 not justification. 657 00:24:51,658 --> 00:24:53,025 Perhaps, but unfortunately, 658 00:24:53,059 --> 00:24:55,261 you can't dictate strategy to Ms. Melnick. 659 00:24:56,696 --> 00:24:59,065 You're going to allow this, Your Honor? 660 00:24:59,098 --> 00:25:01,300 Well, who am I to say that the defendant's 661 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,735 literal belief in biblical retribution 662 00:25:02,769 --> 00:25:05,705 is not reasonable? 663 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:07,640 You're a judge in a court of law. 664 00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:09,676 And you're out of line, Counselor. 665 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:12,645 If Mr. Reese can convince a jury 666 00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:14,213 that this was truly his state of mind 667 00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:16,949 at the time of the homicide, 668 00:25:16,983 --> 00:25:19,118 then let them decide if this justifies what he did. 669 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:22,722 In that case, I move for a 730 exam. 670 00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:23,990 Fine. 671 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:26,058 What does that mean? 672 00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:28,728 He's claiming that you're not mentally fit to stand trial. 673 00:25:28,761 --> 00:25:30,029 That I'm crazy? 674 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:32,198 Because I believe in God 675 00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:34,801 and his power to punish sinners and heretics? 676 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,769 Because the defendant is so deluded 677 00:25:36,803 --> 00:25:39,205 with religious mythology that he can't mount 678 00:25:39,238 --> 00:25:41,107 a responsible defense for himself. 679 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,810 Your Honor, that is straight out of Karl Marx. 680 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:46,212 You can't possibly grant that application. 681 00:25:46,245 --> 00:25:49,749 Your unconventional defense opened the door, Ms. Melnick. 682 00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:51,751 I want a psych workup on the defendant. 683 00:25:51,784 --> 00:25:54,320 And I'll hold a hearing on his competency. 684 00:25:54,353 --> 00:25:55,588 [bangs gavel] 685 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,730 Who's winning, the Christians or the lions? 686 00:26:03,763 --> 00:26:05,097 Who are you, 687 00:26:05,131 --> 00:26:07,233 and what have you done with Danielle Melnick? 688 00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,736 The First Amendment isn't just about free speech, Jack. 689 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:11,738 It also protects religious practice. 690 00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:13,239 And on that pretext, 691 00:26:13,272 --> 00:26:15,374 you'd turn a courtroom into Alice in Wonderland? 692 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:16,508 Oh, come on, Jack. 693 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:19,278 Don't you think that I realize what this sounds like? 694 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:20,312 Then why sign on? 695 00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:22,248 I suggested ten other options. 696 00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:24,283 This was the only defense he would endorse. 697 00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:26,085 And I believe he believes it. 698 00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:29,155 Then maybe you need a 730 exam. 699 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:31,724 Look, a jury may laugh this out of the courtroom, 700 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:33,793 but you have to allow the argument. 701 00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:35,862 The minute you start challenging its veracity, 702 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:38,831 you're--you're making dangerous value judgments. 703 00:26:38,865 --> 00:26:41,267 If faith is an excuse for murder, 704 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,069 then let's just give a free pass 705 00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,704 to Osama Bin Laden. 706 00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:46,272 It is not the government's place 707 00:26:46,305 --> 00:26:49,175 to tell people what they can and cannot believe. 708 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:52,879 But you're not protecting Jacob Reese's religious choice. 709 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:54,881 You're helping him hide behind it. 710 00:26:54,914 --> 00:26:56,883 Maybe it's self-delusion on his part. 711 00:26:56,916 --> 00:26:58,685 Or maybe it's faith. 712 00:26:58,718 --> 00:26:59,886 Or maybe it doesn't have anything to do 713 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,220 with religious principle at all, 714 00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:02,421 and the man just snapped. 715 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:05,057 So let's call it what it is-- 716 00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:05,792 a Hail Mary. 717 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:07,760 You know, 718 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:09,829 not everybody thinks this is such a joke. 719 00:27:09,862 --> 00:27:11,764 Tomorrow's Daily News just hit the stands. 720 00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:13,232 (McCoy) Hmm. 721 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:16,769 Good night and God bless, Jack. 722 00:27:28,748 --> 00:27:29,581 "Melnick's forcing us 723 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:30,883 to argue faith instead of the facts." 724 00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:31,984 Got to admit, it's pretty savvy. 725 00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:33,385 And Judge Glover should be removed 726 00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:36,255 from the bench for allowing it. 727 00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:38,357 But she didn't, and it's up to us to stop it. 728 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:40,893 Well, why don't we just attack it in front of the jury 729 00:27:40,927 --> 00:27:43,295 instead of challenging Reese's competency? 730 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,431 Because if Reese sincerely thinks 731 00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:48,267 that God was gonna strike his daughter dead, 732 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,937 I'm not sure he is actually fit to stand trial. 733 00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:52,872 Yeah, but we come off saying that he's crazy 734 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:54,974 because he literally believes in biblical retribution-- 735 00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:56,408 that plays right into Melnick's hands. 736 00:27:56,442 --> 00:27:58,077 (Branch) Does it? 737 00:27:58,110 --> 00:28:00,112 I'd think people of faith would resent the fact 738 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:02,381 that this guy's trying to hide behind religion. 739 00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:04,383 (McCoy) And as far as we know, 740 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:05,384 Reese really killed Charles Nash 741 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:08,020 because he was having sex with his daughter. 742 00:28:08,054 --> 00:28:10,056 I haven't found anything to support that. 743 00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:11,858 As far as I can tell, the rumors about Nash 744 00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:13,893 were started by Reese and this parents' group. 745 00:28:13,926 --> 00:28:16,362 Well, even if they were true, Reese can still claim 746 00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:18,865 he's protecting the girl from God's vengeance. 747 00:28:18,898 --> 00:28:21,433 (McCoy) That's why I'm not backing down. 748 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,002 If we win on the 730 issue, 749 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:26,438 Danielle will be forced to withdraw the defense. 750 00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:30,743 (Reese) After my wife died, 751 00:28:30,777 --> 00:28:32,745 I was born again through Christ. 752 00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:37,016 I had a religious awakening, not a psychotic break. 753 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,318 But tell me-- you did kill Charles Nash. 754 00:28:39,351 --> 00:28:40,419 I had no choice. 755 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:42,154 He was leading my daughter astray, 756 00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,255 destroying her faith. 757 00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:45,324 (Melnick) Why didn't you just put her 758 00:28:45,357 --> 00:28:46,492 in a different school? 759 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,460 I'd already spent my entire life savings 760 00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:50,763 to get Mary into this Christian school 761 00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:52,464 where she'd be safe from Godless theories. 762 00:28:52,498 --> 00:28:54,901 When I found out what Nash was teaching her, 763 00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:56,435 I joined a parents' group, 764 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:57,669 we complained. 765 00:28:57,703 --> 00:29:00,773 But the administration wouldn't even consider firing him. 766 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,541 And when that didn't work? 767 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,376 I met with Nash, and I begged him to stop. 768 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:05,477 He said he wouldn't. 769 00:29:05,511 --> 00:29:08,881 That he'd keep trying to convince Mary 770 00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:12,018 that Darwin was right and the Bible was wrong. 771 00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:13,352 (Melnick) And what did you think would happen 772 00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,087 if Mary lost her faith? 773 00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,426 She'd be hurt somehow. 774 00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:22,795 Maybe even die. 775 00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:24,931 Why did you believe that? 776 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:28,835 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life. 777 00:29:28,868 --> 00:29:31,370 "But he who does not obey the Son 778 00:29:31,403 --> 00:29:32,438 "will not see life; 779 00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:34,841 but the wrath of God abides on him." 780 00:29:34,874 --> 00:29:38,945 John 3:36. 781 00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:40,847 God could have punished Mary's lack of faith 782 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,481 at any moment. 783 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:45,818 And you do understand what you're doing here, 784 00:29:45,852 --> 00:29:48,855 why you're going to be put on trial? 785 00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:51,557 I took a life, and for that, I'll always be sorry. 786 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:53,826 But I believe it was the only way 787 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:55,527 to protect my daughter. 788 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:03,502 I'm a lapsed Catholic, Mr. Reese. 789 00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:06,038 Care to explain why I haven't burst into flames? 790 00:30:06,072 --> 00:30:07,606 Objection, Your Honor. 791 00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:09,508 Goes to competency, Judge. 792 00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:11,610 Logical inconsistencies 793 00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:13,545 are evidence of the magical thinking 794 00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:16,849 associated with many forms of schizophrenia. 795 00:30:16,883 --> 00:30:17,950 Fine, Counselor. 796 00:30:17,984 --> 00:30:19,451 Let's try it without the sarcasm. 797 00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:26,525 Since God has allowed millions of nonbelievers to live, 798 00:30:26,558 --> 00:30:28,961 Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, 799 00:30:28,995 --> 00:30:30,429 what made you so certain 800 00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:32,264 that he was going to hurt your daughter? 801 00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:34,033 He wrote warnings in the Bible 802 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,501 for everyone to read. 803 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:38,004 But you, personally-- 804 00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:39,872 did you ever hear a voice, 805 00:30:39,906 --> 00:30:40,940 have a vision? 806 00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:41,941 No. 807 00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:43,575 Not even on the night 808 00:30:43,609 --> 00:30:45,011 that you killed Mr. Nash? 809 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:47,079 I don't hallucinate. 810 00:30:47,113 --> 00:30:50,950 Then how did you know Mary would be hurt? 811 00:30:50,983 --> 00:30:52,484 Because I'd seen it before. 812 00:30:57,056 --> 00:31:00,026 My wife... 813 00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:03,029 committed adultery. 814 00:31:03,062 --> 00:31:04,163 One week later, 815 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:05,932 she was diagnosed with leukemia 816 00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:08,467 and given six months to live. 817 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,569 She was dead in two. 818 00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:13,973 And you see these two unconnected events 819 00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:16,042 as a sign from God. 820 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:19,511 [sighs] 821 00:31:19,545 --> 00:31:22,048 AIDS doesn't target homosexuals and fornicators 822 00:31:22,081 --> 00:31:24,016 by sheer dumb luck. 823 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:26,185 Hurricane Katrina didn't wipe out New Orleans 824 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:27,920 by chance. 825 00:31:27,954 --> 00:31:29,555 (McCoy) You feared that a hurricane 826 00:31:29,588 --> 00:31:30,957 might strike your daughter, Mr. Reese. 827 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:32,224 Of course not. 828 00:31:32,258 --> 00:31:34,927 But she could fall ill, get hit by a stray bullet. 829 00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:36,595 Get run over by a car. 830 00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:38,931 These things happen every day, Mr. McCoy. 831 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:41,500 I believe they happen for a reason. 832 00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,069 And despite the million ways 833 00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:44,937 you could have dealt with this situation, 834 00:31:44,971 --> 00:31:48,540 you believed bashing in Charles Nash's skull 835 00:31:48,574 --> 00:31:52,078 was the only way to stop a stray bullet 836 00:31:52,111 --> 00:31:54,213 from striking your daughter. 837 00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:56,115 Can you prove that it wasn't? 838 00:31:57,616 --> 00:31:59,551 The fact that I believe this 839 00:31:59,585 --> 00:32:01,253 doesn't make me crazy, Mr. McCoy. 840 00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,688 It makes me a Christian. 841 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:09,095 I had a really hard time 842 00:32:09,128 --> 00:32:11,530 after my mom died last year. 843 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:14,566 But my dad made sure I went to school, 844 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,636 and he got us both counseling through our church. 845 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:21,007 And how did your father deal with his grief? 846 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,642 Well, he cried a lot. 847 00:32:23,675 --> 00:32:24,610 And prayed. 848 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:28,047 I guess that's when he got more religious. 849 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,582 And how did that affect his life, Mary? 850 00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,352 Well, he became a better dad. 851 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:35,988 He went into business for himself 852 00:32:36,022 --> 00:32:38,390 so he could spend more time with me. 853 00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:39,725 And how about recently? 854 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,727 Does your dad ever say or do anything 855 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,330 that you might consider strange? 856 00:32:44,363 --> 00:32:47,033 Does he seem like he doesn't know where he is? 857 00:32:47,066 --> 00:32:48,600 Never. 858 00:32:48,634 --> 00:32:49,768 Has he ever given any indication 859 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:51,337 that he doesn't understand what's going on? 860 00:32:53,105 --> 00:32:54,206 No. 861 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,042 Thank you. 862 00:32:58,177 --> 00:33:01,013 How many times a day does your father pray, 863 00:33:01,047 --> 00:33:02,048 Miss Reese? 864 00:33:02,081 --> 00:33:05,317 Before or after my mom died? 865 00:33:05,351 --> 00:33:07,186 Both. 866 00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:09,288 Well... 867 00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,291 before, we just went to church on Sundays. 868 00:33:12,324 --> 00:33:15,694 But after, he would read from the Bible every night. 869 00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:17,629 And he made me do it too. 870 00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:19,165 You didn't want to join him? 871 00:33:19,198 --> 00:33:20,399 No, I did. 872 00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:28,274 You testified that your father never said anything strange. 873 00:33:28,307 --> 00:33:31,110 This is an email that he sent you 874 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:32,411 two weeks before the murder. 875 00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:35,314 Please read the highlighted portion. 876 00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:46,292 "Demons surround you at all times, Mary, 877 00:33:46,325 --> 00:33:49,628 "waiting to drag you into sin. 878 00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:52,098 "A single misstep could send you 879 00:33:52,131 --> 00:33:54,366 into the same hellfire that burned your mother." 880 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,767 Demons and hellfire-- 881 00:33:55,801 --> 00:33:58,104 none of that sounds strange to you? 882 00:33:58,137 --> 00:34:00,806 He's really religious, okay? 883 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:03,309 But he's not insane. 884 00:34:03,342 --> 00:34:05,711 (McCoy) How about the night 885 00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:08,080 that he killed Mr. Nash? 886 00:34:08,114 --> 00:34:10,749 Did your father seem normal then? 887 00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:12,351 Yeah. 888 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:13,752 He just got upset. 889 00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:15,187 About what? 890 00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:20,326 Well, when I got home from my appointment 891 00:34:20,359 --> 00:34:22,328 with my guidance counselor, 892 00:34:22,361 --> 00:34:26,098 I told him what Mr. Nash said in school that day, 893 00:34:26,132 --> 00:34:28,267 and that because of Mr. Nash, 894 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,802 I was starting to question my faith. 895 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:34,740 How upset did your father get, 896 00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:36,108 Miss Reese? 897 00:34:39,478 --> 00:34:42,248 Well, he got pretty mad. 898 00:34:42,281 --> 00:34:44,850 But it's not like he lost his mind. 899 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,254 I know you don't understand this, 900 00:34:48,287 --> 00:34:50,756 but I'm telling you, he's not crazy. 901 00:34:53,225 --> 00:34:54,393 (McCoy) Did we hear back 902 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,695 on Reese's psych evaluation yet? 903 00:34:56,728 --> 00:34:59,431 Dr. Olivet hasn't written her report, 904 00:34:59,465 --> 00:35:02,701 but she thinks that he is a fervently religious man 905 00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,803 who is clearly competent to stand trial. 906 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:06,505 I don't doubt his fervor. 907 00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:09,308 You know, Mary Reese may have given us a gift in there. 908 00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:11,543 She testified that she went to see her guidance counselor 909 00:35:11,577 --> 00:35:13,145 the day of the murder. 910 00:35:13,179 --> 00:35:14,780 But the counselor told me 911 00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:16,148 she stopped going months before that. 912 00:35:16,182 --> 00:35:17,849 Thornton got his dates confused. 913 00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:20,352 We'll check him out. 914 00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:22,754 I'm sorry, I've already told you everything I know. 915 00:35:22,788 --> 00:35:25,491 I'm not so sure that's true, Mr. Thornton. 916 00:35:25,524 --> 00:35:28,760 What was the nature of your relationship with Mary Reese? 917 00:35:28,794 --> 00:35:30,229 I'm her guidance counselor. 918 00:35:30,262 --> 00:35:31,029 Really? 919 00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:32,198 Because the doorman at your building 920 00:35:32,231 --> 00:35:34,533 said Mary was getting a lot of guidance in your apartment. 921 00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:36,568 I don't know what you're talking about. 922 00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:37,903 Statutory rape. 923 00:35:37,936 --> 00:35:40,806 Nash was the one having sex with Mary. 924 00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:42,341 She came to me for counseling. 925 00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:43,842 (Rubirosa) We did some checking. 926 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:44,910 Three days before the murder, 927 00:35:44,943 --> 00:35:47,879 you shelled out $200 to the Westside Women's Center. 928 00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:49,815 We're guessing you weren't the one who needed a gynecologist. 929 00:35:49,848 --> 00:35:51,817 Mary was there because of Nash. 930 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,352 I was just helping her. 931 00:35:53,385 --> 00:35:54,853 I'm sure you were. 932 00:35:54,886 --> 00:35:55,821 You were both taking 933 00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:58,290 identical doses of antibiotics. 934 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,863 Please... 935 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:07,499 I swear I never did anything like this before. 936 00:36:07,533 --> 00:36:09,501 Tell us what happened. 937 00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:15,607 Mary's father was really messing her up 938 00:36:15,641 --> 00:36:17,276 with all the religion. 939 00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:20,912 After she lost her mom, Mary needed a father, 940 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:23,982 but Jacob just withdrew into his Bible. 941 00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:26,318 I was the only person who really listened 942 00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:28,387 to how Mary was feeling. 943 00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:30,389 And then you took advantage of her trust. 944 00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:35,227 I made a mistake. 945 00:36:35,261 --> 00:36:37,829 One day, I let it go to a place 946 00:36:37,863 --> 00:36:39,898 that I shouldn't have. 947 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,334 I'm sorry. 948 00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:48,640 Mary, can we have a word with you? 949 00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:50,509 I'm not supposed to talk to you. 950 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:51,877 Walk away if you want to, 951 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:54,380 or maybe you just want to stop and listen. 952 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:56,315 The day Charles Nash was murdered, 953 00:36:56,348 --> 00:36:58,350 you were diagnosed with chlamydia. 954 00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:03,922 Luke Thornton has agreed to testify 955 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:05,357 at your father's trial 956 00:37:05,391 --> 00:37:06,958 if we agree not to prosecute him 957 00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,527 for having sex with you. 958 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,929 We can prove that you lied under oath, Mary. 959 00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:13,532 You could go to juvenile detention. 960 00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:14,700 Good. 961 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,669 I'll need somewhere to live after you lock my dad up. 962 00:37:17,703 --> 00:37:18,637 This isn't a joke. 963 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:21,540 There are serious consequences to your actions. 964 00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,309 You think I don't know that? 965 00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:25,544 A year of fire and brimstone. 966 00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,513 You guys think I don't wake up every morning 967 00:37:27,546 --> 00:37:29,448 knowing that I'm going to hell? 968 00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:38,290 What is my daughter doing here? 969 00:37:38,324 --> 00:37:40,592 Maybe you should ask her. 970 00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:43,529 Do you really want your father 971 00:37:43,562 --> 00:37:45,864 to spend the rest of his life in prison 972 00:37:45,897 --> 00:37:47,265 without knowing the truth? 973 00:37:49,368 --> 00:37:50,902 Okay. 974 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:52,438 Enough games. 975 00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,473 What do you got, Jack? 976 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:57,543 Your client won't believe it coming from me. 977 00:37:57,576 --> 00:38:00,446 He needs to hear it from his daughter. 978 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:03,549 What are they talking about? 979 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:05,984 Nothing. I don't know. 980 00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:07,986 Don't lie to me! 981 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:12,924 (McCoy) If your daughter 982 00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:15,060 refuses to tell the truth, 983 00:38:15,093 --> 00:38:18,063 we'll have no choice but to prosecute her for perjury 984 00:38:18,096 --> 00:38:21,032 and as an accessory for murder. 985 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,668 Accessory? Based on what? 986 00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:24,936 Mary had nothing to do with this. 987 00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:27,739 I went after Nash because he was teaching her evolution. 988 00:38:27,773 --> 00:38:30,576 She wasn't only learning about evolution. 989 00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:42,421 Jacob, you'd better tell me what's going on, 990 00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:44,456 or you're looking for a new lawyer. 991 00:38:51,997 --> 00:38:54,032 This doesn't change anything. 992 00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:56,502 Her disease was just the beginning of God's wrath. 993 00:38:56,535 --> 00:38:59,037 (McCoy) You can make that transparent argument 994 00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:01,039 in court, Mr. Reese. 995 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:04,543 But the only thing the jury will see 996 00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,412 is that you killed a man 997 00:39:06,445 --> 00:39:08,747 because he was having sex with your daughter. 998 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:11,983 Nash. Nash led her into sin. 999 00:39:12,017 --> 00:39:15,587 Charles Nash never had sex with your daughter, Mr. Reese. 1000 00:39:17,556 --> 00:39:19,525 Did he, Mary? 1001 00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:24,062 Mary. 1002 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:30,135 When you found the pills, 1003 00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,671 you just go so mad. 1004 00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:34,105 And you kept screaming at me 1005 00:39:34,139 --> 00:39:36,007 that I was gonna burn in hell 1006 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:39,144 and asking who desecrated me. 1007 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:46,084 I just said the first name that I could think of. 1008 00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:53,391 And I didn't want to get Mr. Thornton in trouble. 1009 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,099 You told me it was Nash. 1010 00:40:20,118 --> 00:40:21,086 I was... 1011 00:40:24,055 --> 00:40:26,458 I was just trying to protect my daughter. 1012 00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:29,094 So you broke the fifth commandment. 1013 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:31,096 You not only killed, 1014 00:40:31,129 --> 00:40:33,632 you killed the wrong man. 1015 00:40:40,138 --> 00:40:41,707 Please... 1016 00:40:43,509 --> 00:40:45,777 I don't want Mary to be punished for this. 1017 00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:49,515 Then plead to all the charges. 1018 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,274 So what kind of sentence are you looking for, Jack? 1019 00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:18,644 Murder, burning down a church to cover it up-- 1020 00:41:18,677 --> 00:41:20,178 25 to life. 1021 00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:21,780 Well, that's a long time. 1022 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,082 You were manipulated, Danielle. 1023 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:26,518 It was the right principle, Jack, just the wrong client. 1024 00:41:26,552 --> 00:41:29,087 I'll take that as a confession of error. 1025 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,189 How long has it been since your last confession? 1026 00:41:31,222 --> 00:41:34,793 I won't be doing any penance for Jacob Reese. 1027 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,863 "Happy is the man who brings justice to the oppressed." 1028 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:39,865 Isaiah. 1029 00:41:41,633 --> 00:41:42,768 See you around, Jack.