1 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:15,615 >>> TONIGHT ON "DATELINE" -- 2 00:00:15,615 --> 00:00:18,785 >> HE'S DYING. HE'S DYING 3 00:00:18,785 --> 00:00:20,387 >> HE SHOT HIMSELF >> YEAH. 4 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:22,555 >> I HEARD BRENDA SAY, "HE'S DEAD." 5 00:00:22,555 --> 00:00:26,793 AND I SAID, "WHO'S DEAD? AND SHE SAID, "IT'S JONATHAN." 6 00:00:26,793 --> 00:00:31,097 >> TO SEE YOUR OWN CHILD IN A CASKET, THAT'S THE MEMORY I WILL 7 00:00:31,097 --> 00:00:32,732 NEVER BE ABLE TO GET RID OF. >> Reporter: YOU EVER HEAR HIM 8 00:00:32,732 --> 00:00:35,902 EVER TALK ABOUT HAVING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS 9 00:00:35,902 --> 00:00:38,772 >> NO. >> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING JONATHAN 10 00:00:38,772 --> 00:00:42,308 WOULD HAVE DONE. >> IT EITHER HAD TO BE A SUICIDE 11 00:00:42,308 --> 00:00:46,012 OR MURDER. >> THE CHINESE DELIVERY GUY 12 00:00:46,012 --> 00:00:48,148 SHOWS UP, AND HE COULD HEAR FIGHTING 13 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:51,918 >> SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP AT THE FUNERAL. 14 00:00:51,918 --> 00:00:53,520 THEY STARTED TELLING US WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,456 >> Reporter: IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ANSWER, YOU'RE GOING TO 16 00:00:56,456 --> 00:00:58,525 HAVE TO FIND IT. >> IT'S THE LAST THING WE WANTED 17 00:00:58,525 --> 00:01:00,493 TO DO. >> THE START OF THE TRIAL WAS 18 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:03,697 INCREDIBLY TENSE THE FAMILY HAD A LOT RIDING ON 19 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,932 THIS >> A VERDICT HAS BEEN DELIVERED. 20 00:01:05,932 --> 00:01:09,569 >> IT WAS A REALLY SURREAL MOMENT 21 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:12,505 THE THING I REALLY WANTED WAS FOR JONATHAN TO BE VINDICATED. 22 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:17,077 I WANTED HIS LEGACY TO BE THE TRUE LEGACY. 23 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:20,814 >> A YOUNG LIFE ENDED. DEATH BY SUICIDE, OR SOMETHING 24 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:24,084 DARKER FOLLOW ALONG AS HIS FAMILY TAKES 25 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:27,220 AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP TO TRY TO SOLVE THE MYSTERY. 26 00:01:27,220 --> 00:01:40,100 I'M LESTER HOLT, AND THIS IS "DATELINE. 27 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:49,676 HERE'S JOSH MANKIEWICZ WITH "BEHIND DOOR 813." 28 00:01:49,676 --> 00:01:56,116 >> Reporter: SUPER BOWL SUNDAY 2014, SEAHAWKS-BRONCOS 29 00:01:56,116 --> 00:02:01,388 AND LIKE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, EMILY AND HER BOYFRIEND JACOB 30 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:10,563 WERE HEADED TO A PARTY THEY WERE HOPING TO SPEND TIME 31 00:02:10,563 --> 00:02:14,434 WITH THE BEST FRIEND JACOB AND EMILY SHARED, A GUY NAMED 32 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:16,236 JONATHAN CREWS ONLY THAT NIGHT, JONATHAN HAD 33 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:18,204 OTHER PLANS. >> HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HANG OUT 34 00:02:18,204 --> 00:02:19,839 WITH US, AND HE WAS INSISTENT THAT HE WANTED TO STAY AT HIS 35 00:02:19,839 --> 00:02:21,641 APARTMENT. >> Reporter: JONATHAN HAD JUST 36 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:24,110 MOVED INTO A NEW APARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF COPPELL, JUST 37 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:27,313 OUTSIDE DALLAS, AND HE HAD A LONG TO-DO LIST. 38 00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:32,352 EMILY TEXTED HIM DURING THE PARTY. 39 00:02:32,352 --> 00:02:33,720 >> ONE OF THE COUPLES THAT WE WERE THERE WITH, THEY HAD A 40 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,389 COUCH THAT THEY WERE SELLING AND I TEXTED JONATHAN, YOU KNOW, 41 00:02:36,389 --> 00:02:38,491 PICTURES OF IT AND I WAS SAYING, "HEY, THESE 42 00:02:38,491 --> 00:02:40,126 PEOPLE ARE SELLING A COUCH UM, SOMEBODY FROM MY WORK IS 43 00:02:40,126 --> 00:02:42,796 ALSO SELLING ONE I'LL SEND YOU A PICTURE OF THAT 44 00:02:42,796 --> 00:02:47,100 IN A LITTLE BIT. >> Reporter: SHE DIDN'T KNOW 45 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:49,169 THAT NOT LONG AFTER THE GAME, A CALL WOULD COME INTO 911 46 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:54,808 ON THE OTHER END WAS A VOICE FULL OF FEAR 47 00:02:54,808 --> 00:02:56,142 >> COPPELL 911 >> OH, MY GOD. 48 00:02:56,142 --> 00:02:58,845 OH, MY GOD OH, MY GOD 49 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:02,549 PLEASE, SOMEBODY HELP. SOMEBODY HELP ME 50 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:05,785 >> Reporter: THAT PANICKED VOICE BELONGED TO BRENDA LAZARO, A 51 00:03:05,785 --> 00:03:08,955 26-YEAR-OLD TEACHER AND MARTIAL ARTS INSTRUCTOR. 52 00:03:08,955 --> 00:03:12,692 BRENDA WAS JONATHAN'S GIRLFRIEND 53 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:15,328 THEY WERE TOGETHER AT HIS APARTMENT, WHEREVER THAT WAS 54 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:19,399 >> WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE APARTMENT? 55 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:20,066 >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW 56 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:22,268 PLEASE PLEASE 57 00:03:22,268 --> 00:03:24,904 HE'S DYING HE'S DYING 58 00:03:24,904 --> 00:03:27,540 HE SHOOT HIMSELF HE SHOOT HIMSELF 59 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:30,276 >> HE SHOT HIMSELF >> YES 60 00:03:30,276 --> 00:03:34,080 >> Reporter: BRENDA SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW THE EXACT ADDRESS. 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,615 JONATHAN HAD JUST MOVED IN A WEEK EARLIER 62 00:03:35,615 --> 00:03:38,818 >> WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE THERE. 63 00:03:38,818 --> 00:03:44,157 >> OH, MY GOD. JONATHAN, JONATHAN 64 00:03:44,157 --> 00:03:48,428 >> DO YOU -- MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE ANY MAIL OR ANYTHING THAT YOU 65 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:53,800 CAN GIVE ME THE EXACT ADDRESS? >> NO, THERE'S NOBODY HERE 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,469 THERE'S JUST ME. OH, MY GOD 67 00:03:56,469 --> 00:04:00,740 >> DID HE USE A GUN, OR WHAT HAPPENED 68 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:03,943 >> YES, HE USED A GUN. I CAN'T SEE THE WOUND BECAUSE 69 00:04:03,943 --> 00:04:07,180 IT'S SO MUCH BLOOD I'M JUST PRESSING ON IT. 70 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:08,281 >> Reporter: THE 911 OPERATOR ASKED BRENDA TO SEE IF A 71 00:04:08,281 --> 00:04:13,053 NEIGHBOR COULD GIVE HER THE ADDRESS. 72 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:20,060 >> I WANT YOU TO GO AND KNOCK ON A DOOR OR FIND A NAME OF 73 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:21,061 SOMETHING -- >> RIVERCHASE APARTMENTS 74 00:04:21,061 --> 00:04:22,696 >> RIVERCHASE? OKAY 75 00:04:22,696 --> 00:04:28,568 >> Reporter: WITH THAT, FIRST RESPONDERS WERE ON THEIR WAY 76 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:30,804 JONATHAN'S PARENTS, JOHN AND PAM CREWS, WERE HOME THAT NIGHT 77 00:04:30,804 --> 00:04:34,441 WITH THEIR DAUGHTER DANI AND THEIR OTHER SON CHRISTIAN. 78 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:38,678 THEY WERE JUST A FEW MILES FROM JONATHAN'S NEW APARTMENT 79 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:41,881 >> WE HAD JUST SETTLED DOWN. IT WAS SUPER BOWL SUNDAY 80 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:44,584 AND DANI AND I HAD TAPED A TV SHOW THAT WE WATCHED EVERY 81 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:47,253 SUNDAY AND WE HAD JUST TURNED IT ON 82 00:04:47,253 --> 00:04:50,523 WHEN HER PHONE RANG. >> Reporter: IT WAS BRENDA 83 00:04:50,523 --> 00:04:51,257 >> IT WAS HARD TO UNDERSTAND HER. 84 00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:52,559 SHE WAS JUST SCREAMING THE WHOLE TIME 85 00:04:52,559 --> 00:04:57,364 AND I HEARD HER SAY, "HE'S DEAD." 86 00:04:57,364 --> 00:05:01,634 AND I SAID, "WHO'S DEAD? AND SHE SAID, "IT'S JONATHAN." 87 00:05:01,634 --> 00:05:05,305 AND THEN MY PARENTS STARTED LIKE, "WHO -- WHAT'S GOING ON? 88 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,040 AND SO SHE WALKED TO THE END OF MY ROOM, AND SHE SAID, "BRENDA 89 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,778 SAID JONATHAN SHOT HIMSELF." AND JOHN MADE JUST THIS HORRIBLE 90 00:05:11,778 --> 00:05:15,048 NOISE AND JUMPED OUT OF THE BED. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DID THIS, 91 00:05:15,048 --> 00:05:20,387 BUT HE WAS IN CLOTHES AND RUNNING DOWN THE -- THE HALLWAY 92 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:22,589 LESS THAN 30 SECONDS >> I THOUGHT IF I GET THERE, I 93 00:05:22,589 --> 00:05:29,362 CAN -- WHATEVER IT IS, I CAN FIX IT 94 00:05:29,362 --> 00:05:31,064 >> Reporter: COPPELL POLICE ARRIVED AT 11:40 P.M 95 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:37,470 >> IT WAS CHAOTIC. THERE WERE POLICE EVERYWHERE 96 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:40,140 THERE WERE SEVERAL EMERGENCY VEHICLES 97 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:42,275 IT WAS CRAZY >> Reporter: THIS IS WHAT BODY 98 00:05:42,275 --> 00:05:44,477 CAMERAS RECORDED AS OFFICERS REACHED THE DOOR OF JONATHAN'S 99 00:05:44,477 --> 00:05:46,613 APARTMENT AND SPOKE WITH BRENDA. >> WHERE'S HE AT 100 00:05:46,613 --> 00:05:47,180 >> HE'S INSIDE >> OKAY. 101 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,215 JUST STAY OUT HERE, OKAY >> PLEASE, I NEED TO SEE HIM 102 00:05:49,215 --> 00:05:51,785 >> ALL RIGHT OKAY 103 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:55,588 ANOTHER OFFICER'S COMIN', OKAY 213, I'M GONNA MAKE ENTRY. 104 00:05:55,588 --> 00:05:58,825 >> Reporter: THE FIRST OFFICER ENTERED THE APARTMENT AND 105 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:01,061 SMELLED GUNPOWDER. >> IS HE DEAD? 106 00:06:01,061 --> 00:06:03,630 >> SEND IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT >> IS HE DEAD? 107 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:06,299 >> I WANNA TALK TO YOU COME TALK TO ME. 108 00:06:06,299 --> 00:06:09,502 >> Reporter: PARAMEDICS WERE ON THE SCENE, BUT IT WAS ALREADY 109 00:06:09,502 --> 00:06:11,104 TOO LATE >> IS HE DEAD? 110 00:06:11,104 --> 00:06:13,239 >> YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. 111 00:06:13,239 --> 00:06:17,477 >> OH, MY GOD. NO 112 00:06:17,477 --> 00:06:21,214 NO >> Reporter: OFFICERS FOUND 113 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:23,383 JONATHAN CREWS LYING IN HIS BED WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND TO HIS 114 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:28,655 CHEST. HE WAS 27 YEARS OLD. 115 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,290 >> I REMEMBER WALKING UP TO THE POLICE OFFICER 116 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,392 >> WHAT'S GOIN' ON >> WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR 117 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,627 >> JOHN. AND I REMEMBER I -- BECAUSE I 118 00:06:34,627 --> 00:06:39,332 JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT, I ASKED HIM THREE TIMES. 119 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:42,502 IS HE OKAY OR -- AND HE TOLD ME THREE TIMES HE 120 00:06:42,502 --> 00:06:45,739 WAS GONE >> UNFORTUNATELY, UH - 121 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:52,145 >> NO. OH 122 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:53,780 OH, NO >> YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN SIR? 123 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:56,950 >> NO, I WANNA -- I WANNA SEE HIM. 124 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:00,153 THE LAST THING ON MIND AT -- AT THAT POINT WAS, WHAT HAPPENED? 125 00:07:00,153 --> 00:07:05,392 I MEAN, JUST TRYING TO -- TRYING TO ABSORB THE IDEA THAT HE WAS 126 00:07:05,392 --> 00:07:08,194 NOT -- LONGER WITH US WAS ABOUT ALL MY BRAIN AND EMOTIONS COULD 127 00:07:08,194 --> 00:07:10,864 DEAL WITH. >> Reporter: MOMENTS AFTER JOHN 128 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:14,934 AND DANI ARRIVED AT THE APARTMENT CAME JONATHAN'S MOM 129 00:07:14,934 --> 00:07:16,202 PAM. WHEN DO YOU SEE EACH OTHER, AND 130 00:07:16,202 --> 00:07:18,872 WHAT DO YOU SAY? >> GOSH. 131 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:21,041 >> YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IT'S KIND OF A BLUR. 132 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:22,709 I -- I REMEMBER US ALL HUGGING AT ONE POINT 133 00:07:22,709 --> 00:07:25,845 >> JOHN JUST KEPT TRYING TO GET TO JONATHAN. 134 00:07:25,845 --> 00:07:29,182 >> I JUST WANTED TO SEE HIM. >> YEAH. 135 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:35,422 AND I KNEW I COULDN'T SEE HIM. NOT HOW YOU WANNA -- YOU KNOW, 136 00:07:35,422 --> 00:07:37,557 WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS, YOU ALWAYS THINK OF THESE LITTLE 137 00:07:37,557 --> 00:07:43,463 NEWBORN BABIES, YOU KNOW AND YOU -- YOU JUST ALWAYS LOOK 138 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:48,635 BACK AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T SEE MY BABY WITH A HOLE 139 00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:50,937 BLOWN THROUGH HIM. >> Reporter: AT THIS POINT, THE 140 00:07:50,937 --> 00:07:54,140 ONLY STORY THIS FAMILY HAD HEARD BOILED DOWN TO THREE SIMPLE 141 00:07:54,140 --> 00:08:01,114 WORDS. "JONATHAN SHOT HIMSELF." 142 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:07,520 AND THAT SIMPLE STORY RAISED A LOT OF COMPLICATED QUESTIONS 143 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,690 COULD THIS REALLY BE SUICIDE OR MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE 144 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:14,461 ALTOGETHER >> I CONCLUDED THAT BRENDA MUST 145 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:19,199 BE WRONG THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AN INTRUDER 146 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:22,469 IN THE HOUSE THAT SHOT JONATHAN. >> Reporter: IT WAS JUST AFTER 147 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:26,139 MIDNIGHT, AND A YEARS-LONG SEARCH FOR ANSWERS WAS JUST 148 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:26,473 SEARCH FOR ANSWERS WAS JUST GETTING STARTED. 149 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:51,064 JONATHAN CREWS RETURNED TO THEIR HOME IN THE SMALL HOURS OF THE 150 00:08:51,064 --> 00:08:55,268 MORNING, REELING FROM THE NEWS OF HIS APPARENT SUICIDE. 151 00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:57,937 WHAT WERE YOU THINKING >> REALLY NOT MUCH OF ANYTHING 152 00:08:57,937 --> 00:09:01,474 I THINK I WAS JUST KIND OF IN SHOCK AND I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW 153 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:02,609 WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO THINK. >> WE'RE OUT OF OUR MINDS AT 154 00:09:02,609 --> 00:09:05,912 THAT POINT LIKE, THERE'S NO RATIONALITY AT 155 00:09:05,912 --> 00:09:06,446 ALL. >> YEAH. 156 00:09:06,446 --> 00:09:09,649 I WAS TAKING AMBIEN AND AMBIEN TO SLEEP 157 00:09:09,649 --> 00:09:12,218 >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S CLOSE FRIEND EMILY WOKE UP THAT 158 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:13,920 MORNING AFTER THE SUPER BOWL WITH A BAD FEELING 159 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,259 SHE'D GOTTEN A STRANGE TEXT FROM JONATHAN AFTER THE GAME. 160 00:09:19,259 --> 00:09:22,028 >> I PLUGGED MY PHONE IN, AND A TEXT MESSAGE POPPED UP 161 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:24,097 AND IT WAS FROM JONATHAN IT SAID, "I WANT TO DIE, 162 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:26,399 PERIOD." >> Reporter: YOU EVER HEAR HIM 163 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,436 SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE? >> NO. 164 00:09:29,436 --> 00:09:32,038 >> Reporter: EMILY SAYS WHEN SHE FIRST SAW THE TEXT, SHE DIDN'T 165 00:09:32,038 --> 00:09:34,774 TAKE IT LITERALLY. SHE THOUGHT MAYBE JONATHAN WAS 166 00:09:34,774 --> 00:09:37,944 HAVING A BAD NIGHT OR BEING DRAMATIC 167 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:42,215 NOW IT WAS MORNING, AND SHE HADN'T HEARD FROM HIM AGAIN. 168 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:52,225 >> I THINK I TRIED TO CALL HIS PHONE AND HE DIDN'T ANSWER 169 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:53,460 AND I LOOKED AT JACOB AND SAID "YOU DON'T THINK SOMETHING 170 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:55,061 HAPPENED, RIGHT? LIKE, THIS IS JUST SO WEIRD. 171 00:09:55,061 --> 00:09:57,197 >> Reporter: EMILY DECIDED TO DRIVE OVER TO JONATHAN'S 172 00:09:57,197 --> 00:09:59,265 BEFORE SHE COULD GET THERE, THE FAMILY CALLED JACOB WITH THE 173 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:02,002 HORRIBLE NEWS. >> AND THEN I GOT A PHONE CALL 174 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,671 FROM JACOB, AND ALL THAT I COULD MAKE OUT THAT HE WAS SAYING WAS 175 00:10:04,671 --> 00:10:07,340 JONATHAN IS DEAD AND HE'S BEEN SHOT 176 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:09,976 >> I'M PISSED. I'M CONFUSED 177 00:10:09,976 --> 00:10:12,145 LIKE, I DON'T -- LIKE, HOW DID HE GET SHOT? 178 00:10:12,145 --> 00:10:15,882 I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE HE GOT SHOT 179 00:10:15,882 --> 00:10:18,018 >> Reporter: ONE THING HE AND EVERYONE CLOSE TO JONATHAN DID 180 00:10:18,018 --> 00:10:22,856 KNOW -- JONATHAN WAS A GUN ENTHUSIAST AND KEPT SEVERAL 181 00:10:22,856 --> 00:10:24,958 FIREARMS AT HIS PLACE. HOW MANY GUNS DID HE HAVE? 182 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,394 >> PROBABLY A HALF DOZEN MAYBE >> I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE 183 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:29,262 GUNS I'D SHOOT WITH HIM 184 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:31,931 HE WAS THE ONE THAT FIRST TAUGHT ME TO SHOOT. 185 00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:34,601 >> Reporter: POLICE DETERMINED THE GUN THAT KILLED JONATHAN WAS 186 00:10:34,601 --> 00:10:38,338 INDEED ONE OF HIS OWN. GUNS HAD BEEN A PART OF HIS 187 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:42,609 FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS NOW THE ENTIRE FAMILY WAS IN 188 00:10:42,609 --> 00:10:45,979 PIECES >> AND I SHOW UP AT THEIR HOUSE 189 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:49,516 AND, YOU KNOW, HIS FAMILY IS JUST IN A DAZE 190 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:53,253 >> Reporter: FOR THOSE EARLY, NUMB MOMENTS OF GRIEF, ALL 191 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:56,956 ANYONE COULD THINK OF WAS JONATHAN, SUCH A YOUNG LIFE 192 00:10:56,956 --> 00:11:00,226 LOST >> WE WERE A VERY CLOSE FAMILY, 193 00:11:00,226 --> 00:11:04,464 UM, BUT HE WAS KIND OF THE RINGLEADER FOR EVERYTHING THAT 194 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:07,667 HAPPENED >> HE SEEMED TO GREET EVERY DAY 195 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,571 WITH A -- WITH AN EXCITEMENT FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN 196 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:14,607 >> HE WAS THE ONE THAT ALWAYS, LIKE, BROUGHT THE PARTY, YOU 197 00:11:14,607 --> 00:11:17,277 KNOW >> I MET HIM IN EIGHT OR NINTH 198 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,512 GRADE. I KIND OF FELL INTO THE NERDY 199 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:22,582 GROUP. AND -- AND WHEN JONATHAN CAME IN 200 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:25,085 AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TALL, HANDSOME, AND, YOU KNOW, PRETTY 201 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:26,519 ATHLETIC AND - >> Reporter: HE WAS THE COOL 202 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:27,387 GUY. >> YEAH, HE WAS A COOL GUY FOR A 203 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:32,392 WHILE. AND THEN HE KIND OF BECAME 204 00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:33,793 FRIENDS WITH MY GROUP. >> Reporter: THE BEST FRIENDS 205 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:38,098 WENT ON TO BE ROOMMATES AT BAYLOR UNIVERSITY, WHERE 206 00:11:38,098 --> 00:11:41,267 JONATHAN MAJORED IN HISTORY. AFTER COLLEGE, HE WANTED TO SAVE 207 00:11:41,267 --> 00:11:45,538 FOR GRAD SCHOOL. SO JONATHAN, A SNAPPY DRESSER 208 00:11:45,538 --> 00:11:49,242 WHO LOVED COLORFUL NECKTIES, WORKED AS A MANAGER IN THE MEN'S 209 00:11:49,242 --> 00:11:53,513 DEPARTMENT AT DILLARD'S. THAT'S WHERE HE MET EMILY. 210 00:11:53,513 --> 00:11:55,115 >> WE HAD VERY SIMILAR PERSONALITIES. 211 00:11:55,115 --> 00:11:58,852 WE WOULD ALWAYS KIND OF JOKE THAT I WAS, LIKE, THE FEMALE 212 00:11:58,852 --> 00:12:01,054 VERSION OF HIM >> Reporter: AND AT ONE POINT, 213 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:03,757 YOU GUYS VERY BRIEFLY WENT OUT >> SO WE WENT ON ONE DATE. 214 00:12:03,757 --> 00:12:04,958 HE ASKED ME TO GO OUT TO, LIKE, DINNER AND DRINKS ONE NIGHT. 215 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:06,893 I LOOKED AT HIM. I WOULD GO, YOU KNOW, "THIS 216 00:12:06,893 --> 00:12:09,562 WOULD NEVER WORK, RIGHT? AND HE GOES, "YEAH, I KNOW 217 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:11,698 WE'RE -- WE'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PERSON. 218 00:12:11,698 --> 00:12:14,167 IT WOULD BE WEIRD FOR ME TO DATE MYSELF." 219 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:15,435 >> Reporter: AND THAT WAS IT AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU GUYS 220 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,071 WERE FRIENDS >> YES, REALLY GOOD FRIENDS. 221 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:21,307 >> Reporter: SUCH GOOD FRIENDS THAT JONATHAN LATER PLAYED 222 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:24,110 MATCHMAKER >> ME, JACOB, AND JONATHAN HAD 223 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:25,311 GONE OUT TO DRINKS ONE NIGHT, AND JACOB LEFT AND WENT TO THE 224 00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:26,680 BATHROOM AND I LOOKED AT JONATHAN, AND I 225 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,281 GO, "I THINK I LIKE YOUR FRIEND." 226 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:30,417 HE GOES, "OKAY, I'M COOL WITH THAT 227 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:33,086 I'LL HELP YOU. AND THEN THAT NIGHT, I THINK WE 228 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,255 KIND OF CONSPIRED TOGETHER >> THEY CONSPIRED AGAINST ME 229 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:36,790 >> SO. >> Reporter: THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT 230 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:42,462 AGAINST YOU. THAT'S FOR YOU 231 00:12:42,462 --> 00:12:43,830 >> YEAH, RIGHT YOU'RE MARRIED NOW 232 00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:46,466 >> Reporter: ALONG WITH HIS TIGHT CIRCLE OF FRIENDS, MUCH OF 233 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:50,236 JONATHAN'S LIFE STARTED TO REVOLVE AROUND THIS PLACE, WU YI 234 00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:55,608 SHAOLIN, A MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL IN A COPPELL STRIP MALL. 235 00:12:55,608 --> 00:13:00,947 AND IT BECAME A FAMILY AFFAIR. JONATHAN, PAM, AND DANI ALL TOOK 236 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:03,483 KUNG FU. >> THERE WERE A LOT OF SOCIAL 237 00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:05,218 EVENTS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HUNG OUT A LOT. 238 00:13:05,218 --> 00:13:07,887 THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, FRIENDSHIPS AND CLIQUES MADE 239 00:13:07,887 --> 00:13:11,091 WITHIN SCHOOLS >> Reporter: IT WAS THERE DANI 240 00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:14,260 FIRST MET BRENDA LAZARO. SHE WAS ORIGINALLY FROM MEXICO 241 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:18,064 AND A PART-TIME INSTRUCTOR AT THE MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL. 242 00:13:18,064 --> 00:13:20,100 YOU THOUGHT OF BRENDA AS YOUR BEST FRIEND? 243 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,335 >> YES SHE WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN 244 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,471 THE SCHOOL AND I -- I ACTUALLY SAID TO 245 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,606 JONATHAN SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, "THIS GIRL BRENDA SEEMS LIKE A 246 00:13:26,606 --> 00:13:28,675 NICE GIRL. MAYBE YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN 247 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:33,146 HER. >> Reporter: JONATHAN WAS 248 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:35,648 INTERESTED >> HE CAME TO ME AND SAID, "I 249 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:41,554 KNOW SHE'S YOUR BEST FRIEND. WOULD YOU MIND?" 250 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:44,758 AND I DID, IN FACT, MIND MY ONE STIPULATION WAS, "DON'T 251 00:13:44,758 --> 00:13:46,426 RUIN MY FRIENDSHIP WITH HER. LIKE, "DON'T COME BETWEEN US OR 252 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:47,494 ANYTHING LIKE THAT." >> Reporter: AND HE PROMISED HE 253 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:53,833 WOULDN'T DO THAT >> PROMISED. 254 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:58,638 >> Reporter: JONATHAN AND BRENDA BEGAN DATING IN NOVEMBER 2013. 255 00:13:58,638 --> 00:14:01,307 SPARKS VERY QUICKLY TURNED INTO FIRE, AND BRENDA TOLD FRIENDS 256 00:14:01,307 --> 00:14:03,943 SHE THOUGHT JONATHAN WAS THE ONE. 257 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:07,380 HOW WAS JONATHAN AS A BOYFRIEND FROM WHAT YOU COULD TELL 258 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:08,782 >> VERY GIVING >> YEAH, VERY GIVING 259 00:14:08,782 --> 00:14:11,484 >> VERY FULL THROTTLE, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW. 260 00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:15,755 HE WAS A PERSON THAT IMMERSED HIMSELF FULLY INTO 261 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:17,357 RELATIONSHIPS. >> Reporter: BRENDA SEEMED TO BE 262 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:23,396 NO EXCEPTION IF SHE AND JONATHAN WEREN'T 263 00:14:23,396 --> 00:14:24,831 TOGETHER, THEY WERE CONSTANTLY TEXTING. 264 00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:26,466 JONATHAN TOLD HIS MOM THE RELATIONSHIP HAD BECOME PRETTY 265 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:29,102 INTENSE. HE SAID BRENDA HAD GONE THROUGH 266 00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:34,874 A ROUGH CHILDHOOD, THAT SHE HAD TRUST ISSUES AND COULD BE KIND 267 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:36,076 OF INSECURE. >> AND SO I SAID, "UM, WHY DON'T 268 00:14:36,076 --> 00:14:38,712 YOU GIVE HER A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE WITH A NICE 269 00:14:38,712 --> 00:14:41,448 PERSON BECAUSE WHEN SHE SEES HOW LOYAL 270 00:14:41,448 --> 00:14:44,584 AND WONDERFUL YOU ARE, SHE'LL START TO BE A LITTLE MORE 271 00:14:44,584 --> 00:14:48,588 SECURE." >> Reporter: THREE MONTHS INTO 272 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:50,990 THAT WHIRLWIND OF A ROMANCE, JONATHAN DECIDED TO MOVE OUT OF 273 00:14:50,990 --> 00:14:53,126 HIS PARENTS' HOUSE AND GET HIS OWN APARTMENT. 274 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:56,329 BRENDA HELPED HIM PICK THAT PLACE OUT. 275 00:14:56,329 --> 00:14:58,231 >> I BELIEVE SHE WENT WITH HIM LOOKING FOR SOME PLACES, YES 276 00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:00,600 AND SHE WAS THERE. SHE HELPED HIM MOVE. 277 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,269 SHE CAME OVER AND BORROWED SOME CLEANING SUPPLIES AND CLEANED 278 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:06,473 EVERYTHING OUT >> Reporter: TO HIS MOM AND DAD, 279 00:15:06,473 --> 00:15:10,210 JONATHAN SEEMED TO BE EMBARKING ON HIS NEXT CHAPTER. 280 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:19,252 HE HAD A NEW JOB, A NEW GIRLFRIEND, A NEW APARTMENT. 281 00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:24,157 AND SO AS THEY SAT CRUSHED AT THE FAMILY HOME, THE IDEA OF 282 00:15:24,157 --> 00:15:26,359 SUICIDE JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE >> I MADE A MENTAL NOTE OF EVERY 283 00:15:26,359 --> 00:15:28,828 AREA OF HIS LIFE EVERYTHING WAS GOING SO WELL IN 284 00:15:28,828 --> 00:15:32,565 HIS LIFE AND SO I CONCLUDED THAT BRENDA 285 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:36,336 MUST BE WRONG. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AN INTRUDER 286 00:15:36,336 --> 00:15:41,441 IN THE HOUSE THAT SHOT JONATHAN. AND SHE CAME IN AND FOUND HIM 287 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,344 THAT WAY AND MADE AN ASSUMPTION. >> Reporter: LET ME ASK YOU 288 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,479 THIS, WHICH IS NOT PLEASANT. AT ANY TIME, JONATHAN EVER 289 00:15:46,479 --> 00:15:47,614 EXPRESS ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT TAKING HIS OWN LIFE OR HURTING 290 00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:50,450 HIMSELF? >> NO. 291 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:53,420 >> Reporter: WAS HE DEPRESSED? >> NO. 292 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:54,988 >> Reporter: POSSIBLE THAT HE WAS DEPRESSED OR SAD OR 293 00:15:54,988 --> 00:15:59,092 MISERABLE IN SOME WAY AND YOU MISSED IT? 294 00:15:59,092 --> 00:16:01,394 >> NO, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT JONATHAN WAS IN ONE OF THE BEST 295 00:16:01,394 --> 00:16:04,064 PLACES THAT HE'D EVER BEEN IN -- IN HIS LIFE. 296 00:16:04,064 --> 00:16:08,301 >> Reporter: WHAT HAPPENED IN JONATHAN'S APARTMENT THAT NIGHT? 297 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:13,373 THE ONLY WITNESS TO THIS TRAGEDY HAD A STORY TO TELL. 298 00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:16,042 >> AND THEN I JUST HEARD HE SHOT THE GUN. 299 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:37,464 >>> HAVE A SEAT. >> Reporter: ON THE NIGHT 300 00:16:37,464 --> 00:16:39,566 JONATHAN CREWS DIED, COPPELL POLICE SPOKE WITH THE ONLY OTHER 301 00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:43,570 PERSON WHO WAS THERE -- HIS GIRLFRIEND BRENDA LAZARO 302 00:16:43,570 --> 00:16:45,472 >> OKAY, SO -- >> SHE WAS SITTING ON SOME 303 00:16:45,472 --> 00:16:49,242 STAIRS IN THE BACK OF THE APARTMENT OUTSIDE. 304 00:16:49,242 --> 00:16:52,412 AND SHE WAS -- THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER SPEAKING TO HER 305 00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:55,615 AND I WALKED UP, ASKED WHAT HAPPENED, AND HE BASICALLY SAID, 306 00:16:55,615 --> 00:16:57,751 "GO AWAY." >> OKAY, SIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T 307 00:16:57,751 --> 00:16:59,619 MIND JUST LETTIN' ME TALK TO HER FOR A MINUTE, AND THEN -- THEN 308 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:01,521 YOU CAN TALK TO HER FOR A SECOND 309 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:06,326 >> Reporter: BRENDA BEGAN DESCRIBING WHAT HAPPENED THAT 310 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:08,928 NIGHT AT JONATHAN'S APARTMENT. >> WE ATE SOME CHINESE FOOD HE 311 00:17:08,928 --> 00:17:10,630 ORDERED. >> CHINESE FROM HERE IN TOWN 312 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:14,334 DID THEY DELIVER >> YEAH. 313 00:17:14,334 --> 00:17:17,570 >> Reporter: BRENDA SAID THEY ATE, WATCHED TV IN BED, AND 314 00:17:17,570 --> 00:17:19,439 TALKED THEY WERE HAVING A SERIOUS 315 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:22,909 CONVERSATION ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP 316 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:27,180 SHE SAID AT SOME POINTS IT BECAME EMOTIONAL 317 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:32,886 >> HE TOLD ME HE LOVED ME, AND I TOLD HIM THAT I LOVE HIM TOO 318 00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:34,654 AND THEN HE'S -- HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS GONNA SHOW ME 319 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:37,323 WE WERE NOT TALKING FOR A LONG TIME 320 00:17:37,323 --> 00:17:40,527 WE STAYED QUIET. HE WAS ON THE BED AND I WAS AT 321 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:44,264 THE EDGE OF THE BED, AND WE WERE JUST THERE 322 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:46,933 WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. AND THEN HE JUST TOLD ME THAT HE 323 00:17:46,933 --> 00:17:50,136 WAS GONNA SHOW ME THAT HE LOVED ME 324 00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:54,441 AND HE ASKED ME -- >> WHAT'D HE SAY 325 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:56,443 SAY HOW HE SAID IT, OKAY >> HE JUST SAID, "BABY, I LOVE 326 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:59,779 YOU. AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THAT I 327 00:17:59,779 --> 00:18:02,449 LOVE YOU." AND THEN HE ASKED ME TO COVER MY 328 00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:05,151 EARS, AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE HAD A GUN 329 00:18:05,151 --> 00:18:10,423 OR ANYTHING. >> SO YOU DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD A 330 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:12,058 GUN IN THE HOUSE >> I KNEW HE HAD GUNS IN THE 331 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:14,127 HOUSE -- >> YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE 332 00:18:14,127 --> 00:18:15,762 >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE HAD A GUN WITH HIM 333 00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:19,532 >> WHERE WERE YOU WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENED 334 00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:23,536 >> I WAS BY THE EDGE OF THE BED, SITTING DOWN ON THE FLOOR. 335 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:25,405 >> OKAY, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? HE TOLD -- HE TOLD YOU TO COVER 336 00:18:25,405 --> 00:18:28,608 YOUR EARS, RIGHT OKAY, WHAT HAPPENED? 337 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:32,379 >> HE ASKED ME A FEW TIMES TO COVER MY EARS, AND I DIDN'T 338 00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:34,581 WANNA DO IT. I TOLD HIM, "NO, WHY?" AND HE 339 00:18:34,581 --> 00:18:41,955 JUST -- "TRUST ME, JUST COVER YOUR EARS. 340 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:45,692 AND THEN I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND THEN I JUST HEARD IT 341 00:18:45,692 --> 00:18:49,429 HE SHOT THE GUN. >> Reporter: SO NO INTRUDER AS 342 00:18:49,429 --> 00:18:51,064 JONATHAN'S MOM HAD WONDERED. BRENDA TOLD POLICE SHE WAS RIGHT 343 00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:55,835 THERE WHEN JONATHAN SHOT HIMSELF. 344 00:18:55,835 --> 00:18:58,505 >> BRENDA, BRENDA -- >> Reporter: POLICE ASKED HER TO 345 00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:00,707 COME WITH THEM TO THE STATION. >> WE'LL GET YOU IN THERE AND 346 00:19:00,707 --> 00:19:02,776 GET YOU SOMETHIN' TO DRINK NOT THAT IT'S GONNA MAKE IT ANY 347 00:19:02,776 --> 00:19:05,145 BETTER, BUT AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE YOU A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE. 348 00:19:05,145 --> 00:19:11,584 THAT -- WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT WITH YOU 349 00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:14,020 >> Reporter: IN THE BACK OF THE POLICE CAR, BRENDA SOBBED. 350 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:19,059 SHE WAS STILL CRYING INSIDE THE INTERVIEW ROOM 351 00:19:19,059 --> 00:19:22,028 IT TOOK ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES BEFORE SHE WAS CALM ENOUGH TO 352 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:24,731 TALK >> I NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT 353 00:19:24,731 --> 00:19:29,035 ABOUT YOU SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE OKAY. 354 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:32,172 WE NEED TO KNOW WHO TO CALL, WE NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S FAMILY 355 00:19:32,172 --> 00:19:35,909 THAT YOU HAVE. >> Reporter: AND THEN BRENDA 356 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:38,878 TOLD POLICE THE STORY AGAIN. >> HE SAID HE LOVED YOU AND 357 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:40,680 WHAT >> AND THEN I HEAR THE GUN 358 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,416 >> Reporter: BY THE TIME SHE FINISHED, IT WAS EARLY MORNING 359 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:49,589 LATER THAT DAY, SHE WENT TO STAY WITH THE CREWS FAMILY. 360 00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:52,459 >> YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER TAKING HER FACE IN MY HANDS AND LOOKING 361 00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:56,196 AT HER AND SAYING, "THIS WASN'T YOUR FAULT." 362 00:19:56,196 --> 00:20:00,066 I THOUGHT, "I NEED TO HELP HER SO THAT SHE'S NOT RUINED FOR THE 363 00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:03,136 REST OF HER LIFE." >> Reporter: BRENDA DIDN'T SAY 364 00:20:03,136 --> 00:20:06,840 MUCH TO JONATHAN'S PARENTS ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED THAT NIGHT 365 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,543 SHE DID TALK WITH HER CLOSE FRIEND, HIS SISTER DANI. 366 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:15,382 >> I ASKED HER WHAT HAPPENED, AND SHE SAID THAT THEY WERE 367 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:18,585 HAVING A CONVERSATION. >> Reporter: NOT A FIGHT 368 00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:21,254 >> SHE SAID THAT -- I THINK THEY HAD HAD A FIGHT EARLIER THAT 369 00:20:21,254 --> 00:20:22,856 DAY, BUT SHE SAID THAT IT WAS CALM 370 00:20:22,856 --> 00:20:26,693 THEY WERE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION 371 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:28,962 AND THEN HE SAID, "I'M GOING TO PROVE HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU," AND 372 00:20:28,962 --> 00:20:33,199 THEN PULLED OUT A GUN AND SHOT HIMSELF, AND HE FELL BACK ONTO 373 00:20:33,199 --> 00:20:35,702 THE BED. >> Reporter: DANI THOUGHT 374 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,404 BRENDA'S STORY SOUNDED STRANGE -- WHO SHOOTS THEMSELVES 375 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:40,507 TO PROVE THEIR LOVE FOR SOMEONE ELSE 376 00:20:40,507 --> 00:20:44,244 YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT 377 00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:47,914 >> I FIGURED THAT MUST BE WHAT -- IT MUST BE AN ACCIDENT 378 00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:50,617 >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S DAD WAS HOPING POLICE COULD PROVIDE SOME 379 00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:52,352 CLARITY. >> I'M SURE THEY ASKED ME THINGS 380 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,888 LIKE, "WAS HE DEPRESSED?" AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 381 00:20:54,888 --> 00:20:57,657 ALTHOUGH THE THING THAT STANDS OUT IS THEM TRYING TO IMPRESS 382 00:20:57,657 --> 00:21:00,360 UPON ME, BASICALLY, "DON'T THINK THIS WAS A SUICIDE, WHATEVER THE 383 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,896 OUTCOME IS, DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 384 00:21:02,896 --> 00:21:06,633 >> Reporter: THAT WAS THEIR BIG MESSAGE TO YOU 385 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:07,867 >> THAT WAS THEIR BIG MESSAGE. >> Reporter: SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE 386 00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:09,869 THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER 387 00:21:09,869 --> 00:21:12,505 >> WELL, I -- I ASSUMED THEY WERE -- THEY HAD SOME REASON FOR 388 00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:17,310 THAT STATEMENT LIKE IT WASN'T JUST TO MAKE ME 389 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:21,081 FACTS THAT SUPPORTED THAT. >> Reporter: THE GUN'S MAGAZINE 390 00:21:21,081 --> 00:21:25,318 WAS FOUND NOT IN THE GUN BUT IN A DRAWER. THE WEAPON, A SIG 391 00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:27,987 SAUER 9MM, CAN HOLD A BULLET IN ITS CHAMBER EVEN WITHOUT THE 392 00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:32,792 MAGAZINE SO MAYBE JONATHAN DIDN'T KNOW 393 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:35,462 THE GUN WAS LOADED >> WHAT WE HEARD -- OR WHAT I 394 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:39,766 HEARD, AT LEAST, WAS AT THE VERY LEAST THIS WAS SOME SORT OF AN 395 00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:42,402 ACCIDENT >> Reporter: THE FAMILY HAD NO 396 00:21:42,402 --> 00:21:46,706 CLEAR ANSWERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS THEY BRACED FOR 397 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:49,909 JONATHAN'S FUNERAL >> TO SEE YOUR OWN CHILD IN A 398 00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:53,113 CASKET IS -- I MEAN, THAT'S THE MEMORY I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO 399 00:21:53,113 --> 00:21:56,816 GET RID OF >> IT WAS AWFUL TO SEE, LIKE -- 400 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,451 LIKE, HIS PARENTS HAVING TO KIND OF, LIKE, JUST GREET PEOPLE, 401 00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:02,155 LIKE, NEXT TO A CASKET OF THEIR KID. 402 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,824 THIS IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST THINGS I HAVE EVER DONE. 403 00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:09,462 >> IT WAS JUST KIND OF WAS A BLUR 404 00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:13,366 I REMEMBER TALKING AND THAT'S ABOUT IT 405 00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:18,672 >> Reporter: SO MANY PEOPLE WHO LOVED JONATHAN PAID THEIR 406 00:22:18,672 --> 00:22:21,941 RESPECTS, EXCEPT FOR ONE BRENDA WASN'T THERE. 407 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:25,145 >> SHE'D BEEN TEXTING ME, ASKING IF SHE COULD WEAR JEANS AND 408 00:22:25,145 --> 00:22:26,813 ASKING THE ADDRESS AND SO WHEN SHE JUST DIDN'T SHOW 409 00:22:26,813 --> 00:22:32,352 UP, I WAS LIKE, "THAT'S SO WEIRD. 410 00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:34,788 >> Reporter: THE FAMILY HAD SAVED HER A SEAT UP FRONT WITH 411 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:39,592 THEM, AND HER ABSENCE SPARKED A NEW FEAR 412 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:41,828 >> PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HER, WE WERE AFRAID MAYBE SHE'D 413 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,863 DONE SOMETHING TO HERSELF, OR MAYBE SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO 414 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:48,668 HER. >> Reporter: THE QUESTIONS WERE 415 00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:50,270 PILING UP, AND SOME OF THE POTENTIAL ANSWERS DIDN'T MAKE 416 00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:51,905 SENSE. GUN SAFETY WAS SOMETHING HE TOOK 417 00:22:51,905 --> 00:22:55,175 VERY SERIOUSLY >> TOOK VERY SERIOUSLY 418 00:22:55,175 --> 00:23:16,863 * (MÚSICA) *OUSL FAMILY BELIEVED HE NEVER WOULD 419 00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:19,499 HAVE SHOT HIMSELF -- AT LEAST NOT ON PURPOSE 420 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:22,702 AND YET THE MORE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE IDEA OF AN 421 00:23:22,702 --> 00:23:25,405 ACCIDENT DIDN'T FIT EITHER JONATHAN'S GRANDFATHER HAD 422 00:23:25,405 --> 00:23:28,074 TAUGHT HIM AND HIS BROTHER ALL ABOUT GUNS FROM CHILDHOOD. 423 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:29,676 >> HE WAS TEACHING THEM ABOUT HOW TO SHOOT, GUN SAFETY, ALL 424 00:23:29,676 --> 00:23:31,745 THAT, FROM THE TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PRETTY, PRETTY 425 00:23:31,745 --> 00:23:32,946 YOUNG. >> Reporter: SO GUN SAFETY WOULD 426 00:23:32,946 --> 00:23:35,515 NOT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING NEW TO JONATHAN 427 00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:38,184 >> NO. UH, QUITE -- QUITE THE OPPOSITE. 428 00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:41,921 HE WAS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH HIS GUNS. 429 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:45,125 >> I WENT HUNTING WITH HIM AND HE WAS ALWAYS, UM, VERY CAREFUL 430 00:23:45,125 --> 00:23:47,794 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MUZZLE WAS POINTED, IF IT WAS 431 00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:50,997 LOADED OR UNLOADED, DEPENDING ON WHAT HE WAS DOING. 432 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:56,336 >> Reporter: HE HAD MORE FORMAL FIREARMS TRAINING AS HE GOT 433 00:23:56,336 --> 00:24:00,607 OLDER, AND SHOT COMPETITIVELY. HERE HE IS ON HOME VIDEO AT A 434 00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,776 SHOOTING RANGE OUTSIDE OF TOWN JONATHAN'S PARENTS BELIEVED 435 00:24:02,776 --> 00:24:06,179 THERE HAD TO BE ANOTHER EXPLANATION. 436 00:24:06,179 --> 00:24:09,716 MAYBE BRENDA COULD HELP THEM UNDERSTAND 437 00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:13,453 SO WHERE WAS SHE IT TURNED OUT DANI HEARD FROM 438 00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:16,690 HER AFTER THE FUNERAL. BRENDA WAS ALIVE AND WELL. 439 00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:19,359 >> AND THEN SHE WAS LIKE, "WELL, I JUST COULDN'T DO IT. 440 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,661 THAT'S -- I'M TOO UPSET. >> Reporter: DANI COULD NOT 441 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:24,164 UNDERSTAND WHY SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP 442 00:24:24,164 --> 00:24:27,367 YOU WERE UPSET THAT SHE WASN'T THERE. 443 00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:30,570 >> I MEAN, I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY AWFUL THING TO DO 444 00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:33,807 >> Reporter: AS THEY EXCHANGED MESSAGES ON FACEBOOK, THINGS GOT 445 00:24:33,807 --> 00:24:36,443 TENSE. BRENDA TOLD DANI SHE WAS 446 00:24:36,443 --> 00:24:41,247 BOTHERED BY HOW THE SERVICE HAD BEEN PLANNED 447 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:43,917 >> SHE WAS VERY UPSET THAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP WAS NOT THE FOCAL 448 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:45,518 POINT OF THE FUNERAL >> Reporter: THEIR RELATIONSHIP? 449 00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:48,722 >> THEIR RELATIONSHIP. SHE WANTED THE WORLD TO KNOW 450 00:24:48,722 --> 00:24:51,358 ABOUT THEIR LOVE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO HIM. 451 00:24:51,358 --> 00:24:54,361 >> Reporter: EVEN THOUGH THEY'D BEEN TOGETHER LIKE THREE MONTHS 452 00:24:54,361 --> 00:24:55,628 AND HE'D BEEN WITH YOUR FAMILY HIS ENTIRE LIFE. 453 00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:57,797 >> EXACTLY >> Reporter: SHE THINKS IT 454 00:24:57,797 --> 00:24:59,899 SHOULD BE ABOUT HER. >> YEAH. 455 00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:02,035 >> Reporter: WHEN THEY STARTED DATING, JONATHAN PROMISED TO 456 00:25:02,035 --> 00:25:06,306 KEEP HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH BRENDA FROM AFFECTING DANI'S 457 00:25:06,306 --> 00:25:10,076 FRIENDSHIP WITH BRENDA DANI SAYS SHE NOW REALIZES THAT 458 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:13,279 WAS WISHFUL THINKING ONCE JONATHAN AND BRENDA WERE A 459 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:18,852 COUPLE, DANI STARTED TO SEE A SIDE OF BRENDA SHE DIDN'T LIKE 460 00:25:18,852 --> 00:25:19,953 SO WHAT'D YOU OBSERVE? >> A LOT OF WEIRDNESS. 461 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:20,854 >> Reporter: STUFF YOU HADN'T SEEN BEFORE? 462 00:25:20,854 --> 00:25:26,626 >> NO. >> Reporter: LIKE WHAT 463 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:28,328 >> SO BEFORE THEY EVEN OFFICIALLY STARTED DATING, HE 464 00:25:28,328 --> 00:25:32,465 AND I MADE PLANS TO HANG OUT ON A SATURDAY 465 00:25:32,465 --> 00:25:37,804 HE KEPT GETTING TEXT MESSAGES. AND HE WAS LIKE, "HEY, SO 466 00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:40,473 BRENDA'S REALLY UPSET WITH ME BECAUSE SHE TEXTED ME THIS 467 00:25:40,473 --> 00:25:44,377 MORNING AND WANTED TO SPEND A DAY TOGETHER, BUT I'M NOT GOING 468 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:46,312 TO CANCEL PLANS THAT I'VE ALREADY MADE WITH YOU TO HANG 469 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:48,982 OUT WITH HER." AND SHE WAS COMPLAINING THAT HE 470 00:25:48,982 --> 00:25:50,617 WASN'T MAKING HER A PRIORITY IN HIS LIFE 471 00:25:50,617 --> 00:25:52,585 >> Reporter: AND -- AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT, THREE DAYS OLD AT 472 00:25:52,585 --> 00:25:54,320 THAT POINT >> YEAH. 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,956 I WAS LIKE, "PRIORITY? YOU JUST MET HER 474 00:25:56,956 --> 00:25:59,526 WHAT DO YOU MEAN?" >> Reporter: ANOTHER EXAMPLE, A 475 00:25:59,526 --> 00:26:02,295 FEW WEEKS INTO THE RELATIONSHIP THE CREWS FAMILY TOOK A VACATION 476 00:26:02,295 --> 00:26:07,100 TO EUROPE. EVERYONE ON THAT TRIP REMEMBERS 477 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,337 JONATHAN TEXTING BRENDA NONSTOP. THEY HAD ONLY BEEN GOING OUT A 478 00:26:10,337 --> 00:26:13,573 VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. >> YES, BUT HE SPENT A LOT OF 479 00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:16,209 TIME TEXTING WITH HER TO WHERE WE HAD TO ASK HIM, YOU KNOW, PUT 480 00:26:16,209 --> 00:26:17,811 IT DOWN WHEN WE'RE TOGETHER. PUT IT DOWN WHEN WE'RE AT 481 00:26:17,811 --> 00:26:20,647 DINNER, YOU KNOW SHE CAN WAIT FOR YOU TO COME 482 00:26:20,647 --> 00:26:24,617 BACK >> Reporter: AFTER THEY 483 00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:25,819 RETURNED, DANI SAYS IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE BRENDA'S JEALOUSY 484 00:26:25,819 --> 00:26:30,657 ARRIVED LIKE THE NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN 485 00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:34,427 SUDDENLY THERE WERE RULES IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, AND 486 00:26:34,427 --> 00:26:39,232 JONATHAN'S NEW JOB WAS TO FOLLOW THEM 487 00:26:39,232 --> 00:26:41,901 >> AT ONE POINT HE WISHED A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO A FEMALE 488 00:26:41,901 --> 00:26:46,172 FRIEND ON FACEBOOK THAT HE HADN'T SPOKEN TO IN YEARS. 489 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:49,909 AND SHE FREAKED OUT ABOUT IT AND WANTED HIM TO GET RID OF ALL OF 490 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:52,579 HIS FEMALE FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK >> Reporter: RIDICULOUS, OR 491 00:26:52,579 --> 00:26:57,917 REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ON THAT. 492 00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:02,455 THEN, AFTER JONATHAN'S FUNERAL, THIS 493 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:05,925 >> WE WANTED TO CHANGE HIS FACEBOOK PAGE TO A MEMORIAL PAGE 494 00:27:05,925 --> 00:27:08,595 AND WE COULDN'T ACCESS THE FACEBOOK 495 00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:11,264 >> Reporter: SHE THOUGHT BRENDA MIGHT HAVE JONATHAN'S PASSWORDS. 496 00:27:11,264 --> 00:27:15,035 >> I ASKED FOR THEM AND SHE WAS LIKE, "WELL YOU HAVE TO 497 00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:17,637 PROMISE -- YOU KNOW, WE MADE THE DECISION THAT HE WAS GOING TO 498 00:27:17,637 --> 00:27:21,908 REMOVE ALL OF HIS EX-GIRLFRIENDS 499 00:27:21,908 --> 00:27:26,713 AND SO YOU HAVE TO PROMISE ME, BECAUSE IT'S HIS WISHES, THAT 500 00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:28,882 YOU WON'T ADD THEM BACK. >> Reporter: SHE'S STILL 501 00:27:28,882 --> 00:27:31,051 THINKING ABOUT THAT AFTER HE'S DEAD 502 00:27:31,051 --> 00:27:33,153 >> YES THAT WAS LIKE HER ONE -- HER ONE 503 00:27:33,153 --> 00:27:35,588 STIPULATION FOR GIVING US THE PASSWORDS, IS HIS EX-GIRLFRIENDS 504 00:27:35,588 --> 00:27:37,957 CANNOT BE RE-ADDED TO HIS FACEBOOK 505 00:27:37,957 --> 00:27:40,627 >> Reporter: SO YOU WENT ALONG WITH THAT? 506 00:27:40,627 --> 00:27:43,830 >> YEAH. WE AGREED. 507 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,266 WE DID WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO GET OUR OUR ACCESS 508 00:27:46,266 --> 00:27:49,602 >> Reporter: SO WHILE JONATHAN'S FAMILY WAS FRUSTRATED WITH 509 00:27:49,602 --> 00:27:51,304 BRENDA, HIS CLOSE FRIENDS WERE JUST PLAIN SKEPTICAL ABOUT HER 510 00:27:51,304 --> 00:27:52,906 STORY. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN, LIKE, 511 00:27:52,906 --> 00:27:55,075 "COVER YOUR EARS, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU"? 512 00:27:55,075 --> 00:27:57,377 THAT'S DUMB. >> Reporter: HE WOULDN'T TALK 513 00:27:57,377 --> 00:27:58,211 LIKE THAT. >> NO. 514 00:27:58,211 --> 00:28:00,347 ALSO, LIKE, WHO DOES THAT? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING JONATHAN 515 00:28:00,347 --> 00:28:03,016 WOULD HAVE DONE. THAT'S A WEIRD STORY 516 00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:06,252 >> Reporter: SO WAS IT A MADE-UP STORY? 517 00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,922 COULD THIS BE THE OPENING ACT OF A COVERUP? 518 00:28:08,922 --> 00:28:13,193 MAYBE SOMETHING DARKER LED UP TO THE NIGHT JONATHAN CREWS DIED. 519 00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:14,728 >> FINALLY I SAID, "JONATHAN, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO GET 520 00:28:14,728 --> 00:28:19,566 BETTER, BECAUSE, LIKE, IT'S JUST ESCALATING AT THIS POINT." 521 00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:41,788 >> Reporter: DESPITE BEING ONE OF JONATHAN'S BEST FRIENDS, 522 00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:45,125 EMILY DIDN'T KNOW HIS GIRLFRIEND BRENDA ALL THAT WELL 523 00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:48,895 EVEN SO, SHE HAD A UNIQUE WINDOW INTO THEIR RELATIONSHIP. 524 00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:52,098 EARLY ON, JONATHAN ASKED EMILY AND JACOB ON A DOUBLE DATE SO 525 00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:55,368 THEY COULD MEET BRENDA >> WE BOTH GAVE HIM A REALLY BIG 526 00:28:55,368 --> 00:28:58,505 HUG LIKE WE NORMALLY DO WHEN WE SEE HIM. 527 00:28:58,505 --> 00:29:01,841 >> Reporter: THEY SAY BRENDA WAS QUIET DURING THE WHOLE MEAL. 528 00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:04,344 SO YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW OUT A LITTLE BIT - 529 00:29:04,344 --> 00:29:07,013 >> RIGHT, YEAH >> Reporter: -- AND -- AND 530 00:29:07,013 --> 00:29:09,683 NOTHING. >> YEAH. 531 00:29:09,683 --> 00:29:11,818 >> NOTHING >> LATER, I THINK, HE HAD TEXTED 532 00:29:11,818 --> 00:29:13,920 ME AND SAID, LIKE, "OH, SHE'S NOT FEELING GOOD." 533 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,222 SO, IN MY BRAIN, I THOUGHT, "OKAY, THAT'S WHY SHE'S QUIET. 534 00:29:16,222 --> 00:29:18,725 I DON'T -- I DON'T TALK A LOT WHEN I'M SICK. 535 00:29:18,725 --> 00:29:21,394 >> Reporter: NOW, FAST FORWARD A COUPLE OF MONTHS, TO THE DAY OF 536 00:29:21,394 --> 00:29:23,530 JONATHAN'S DEATH THE THREE FRIENDS MET FOR 537 00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:25,699 BRUNCH >> JONATHAN STARTED TO GET SOME 538 00:29:25,699 --> 00:29:27,834 TEXT MESSAGES AND SEEMED DISTRACTED BY HIS PHONE. 539 00:29:27,834 --> 00:29:30,737 AND THEN HE STARTED THE CONVERSATION BY SAYING, "SO, 540 00:29:30,737 --> 00:29:32,205 BRENDA HAS A PROBLEM WITH YOU. AND I REMEMBER BEING VERY CAUGHT 541 00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:35,308 OFF GUARD BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, "WAIT, WHAT? 542 00:29:35,308 --> 00:29:38,178 WHY? AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, "SHE WAS 543 00:29:38,178 --> 00:29:40,647 REALLY UPSET WHEN YOU AND I WENT TO DINNER THAT, LIKE, I HUGGED 544 00:29:40,647 --> 00:29:43,283 YOU. AND I'M LIKE, "WHY WAS SHE UPSET 545 00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:47,053 THAT I HUGGED YOU? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 546 00:29:47,053 --> 00:29:51,224 ESPECIALLY SINCE I WAS DATING HIS BEST FRIEND. 547 00:29:51,224 --> 00:29:54,060 >> Reporter: JONATHAN TRIED TO EXPLAIN -- HE MENTIONED BRENDA'S 548 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:55,562 DIFFICULT UPBRINGING IN MEXICO >> HE SAID THAT SHE'D BEEN 549 00:29:55,562 --> 00:29:58,465 THROUGH A LOT OF TRAUMATIC THINGS 550 00:29:58,465 --> 00:30:02,002 AND ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT HER UNCLE WAS MURDERED IN FRONT OF 551 00:30:02,002 --> 00:30:04,237 HER BY THE CARTEL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, HER FAMILY HAD 552 00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:07,874 TO FLEE MEXICO AND THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GO BACK, SO IT MADE 553 00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:09,476 HER HARD TO TRUST PEOPLE >> Reporter: THEN JONATHAN'S 554 00:30:09,476 --> 00:30:13,346 PHONE RANG IT WAS BRENDA, AND SHE WANTED TO 555 00:30:13,346 --> 00:30:16,850 TALK - TO EMILY 556 00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:18,585 >> WHEN I TOOK THE PHONE, SHE LITERALLY WAS LIKE SCREAMING AT 557 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:20,186 ME >> Reporter: WHAT DID SHE 558 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:23,390 SPECIFICALLY SAY TO YOU? >> SHE WAS TELLING ME THAT I WAS 559 00:30:23,390 --> 00:30:26,026 A DISRESPECTFUL LITTLE GIRL FOR HUGGING HER MAN, AND THAT I 560 00:30:26,026 --> 00:30:29,229 NEEDED TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM AND KEEP MY HANDS OFF OF HIM 561 00:30:29,229 --> 00:30:31,898 UM, I SAID TO HER, "I'M SORRY IF IT BOTHERS YOU THAT I HUGGED 562 00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:35,402 HIM, BUT HE'S MY FRIEND. I GREET EVERYONE THAT WAY. 563 00:30:35,402 --> 00:30:37,203 I'M NOT GOING TO NOT HUG HIM BECAUSE THAT BOTHERS YOU 564 00:30:37,203 --> 00:30:39,239 I'M NOT INTERESTED IN HIM, LIKE, IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT. 565 00:30:39,239 --> 00:30:43,309 I'VE NEVER EVEN KISSED HIM." >> Reporter: AND THAT DIDN'T -- 566 00:30:43,309 --> 00:30:45,245 THAT DIDN'T CALM HER DOWN? >> NO, SHE SAID AFTERWARDS, "LET 567 00:30:45,245 --> 00:30:46,846 ME TALK TO MY MAN -- MAN -- MY MAN. 568 00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:48,948 AND I SAID, ABSOLUTELY AND I HANDED JONATHAN THE PHONE. 569 00:30:48,948 --> 00:30:50,583 >> Reporter: AND DID YOU SAY, "YOUR CRAZY GIRLFRIEND WANTS TO 570 00:30:50,583 --> 00:30:53,253 TALK TO YOU" >> TO BE HONEST, I WAS A LITTLE 571 00:30:53,253 --> 00:30:54,921 BIT OVERWHELMED. I HANDED HIM THE PHONE AND GOT 572 00:30:54,921 --> 00:30:57,490 UP FROM THE TABLE AND WENT TO THE BATHROOM AND IMMEDIATELY 573 00:30:57,490 --> 00:31:00,694 STARTED CRYING >> Reporter: WHEN EMILY RETURNED 574 00:31:00,694 --> 00:31:02,829 TO THE TABLE, JONATHAN TRIED TO APOLOGIZE. 575 00:31:02,829 --> 00:31:04,931 >> HE JUST KEPT ON APOLOGIZING ALL OVER HIMSELF 576 00:31:04,931 --> 00:31:06,566 I SAID, "I KNOW THAT YOU LIKE HER, LIKE, YOU'RE IN A 577 00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:07,600 RELATIONSHIP WITH HER. I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO 578 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,337 CHOOSE BETWEEN YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND ME 579 00:31:10,337 --> 00:31:12,439 I JUST, LIKE, RIGHT NOW I DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND HER. 580 00:31:12,439 --> 00:31:15,342 >> Reporter: EMILY DIDN'T KNOW IT AT THE TIME, BUT BRENDA'S 581 00:31:15,342 --> 00:31:17,243 ISSUES WITH HER HAD BEEN A STICKING POINT IN THE 582 00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:22,082 RELATIONSHIP SINCE THAT FIRST DINNER 583 00:31:22,082 --> 00:31:25,752 AND IN PART BECAUSE OF THAT, JONATHAN HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT 584 00:31:25,752 --> 00:31:28,955 ENDING THE RELATIONSHIP. A DAY EARLIER, HE'D SENT HIS 585 00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:32,692 SISTER DANI A TEXT LAYING OUT HIS OPTIONS. 586 00:31:32,692 --> 00:31:34,828 >> FIGHT IT AND TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER, WHICH WON'T HAPPEN 587 00:31:34,828 --> 00:31:39,099 TWO, CHOOSE BRENDA IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE UP EMILY. 588 00:31:39,099 --> 00:31:40,734 >> UH-HMM. >> Reporter: THREE, REFUSE TO 589 00:31:40,734 --> 00:31:42,302 GIVE UP EITHER AND SEE IF BRENDA ENDS IT. 590 00:31:42,302 --> 00:31:43,903 >> UH-HMM. >> Reporter: FOUR, END IT WITH 591 00:31:43,903 --> 00:31:45,505 BRENDA NOW >> UH-HMM. 592 00:31:45,505 --> 00:31:47,707 >> Reporter: AND HE DECIDES OUT OF THOSE FOUR CHOICES THAT -- 593 00:31:47,707 --> 00:31:49,209 TO -- TO END IT. >> YES 594 00:31:49,209 --> 00:31:51,411 HE SAID IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOON 595 00:31:51,411 --> 00:31:55,648 AND HE GOES, YOU KNOW, "I'M REALLY SORRY." 596 00:31:55,648 --> 00:31:57,784 YOU KNOW, "I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF DRAMA AND I'M -- KNOW IT HAS 597 00:31:57,784 --> 00:32:00,453 PROBABLY AFFECTED YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HER, AND A 598 00:32:00,453 --> 00:32:02,555 BREAKUP MIGHT RUIN IT FURTHER, AND I'M REALLY SORRY BECAUSE 599 00:32:02,555 --> 00:32:06,326 THAT WAS MY ONE THING THAT I PROMISED YOU." 600 00:32:06,326 --> 00:32:08,428 >> Reporter: NOW AT BRUNCH, AFTER HEARING BRENDA LOSE IT 601 00:32:08,428 --> 00:32:13,233 ABOUT EMILY, HE TOLD HIS FRIENDS WHAT HE WAS THINKING 602 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,402 >> JONATHAN MAKE IT CLEAR DURING THAT CONVERSATION THAT WAS GOING 603 00:32:15,402 --> 00:32:18,071 TO BE THE END OF HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH BRENDA 604 00:32:18,071 --> 00:32:20,173 >> VERY CLEAR. HE SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT HE 605 00:32:20,173 --> 00:32:21,808 WAS GOING TO PACK UP ALL OF HER THINGS AND THAT HE WAS 606 00:32:21,808 --> 00:32:23,643 ABSOLUTELY DONE. >> Reporter: THIS IS LESS THAN 607 00:32:23,643 --> 00:32:25,445 24 HOURS FROM THE END OF JONATHAN'S LIFE. 608 00:32:25,445 --> 00:32:27,714 >> RIGHT DRIVING IN THE CAR BACK TO HIS 609 00:32:27,714 --> 00:32:30,850 APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS JUST KIND OF QUIET 610 00:32:30,850 --> 00:32:33,486 AND HE ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT REALLY TENSE AND GOES, "OH, MY 611 00:32:33,486 --> 00:32:35,655 GOSH, THERE'S HER CAR. AND JACOB WAS LIKE, "EMILY, 612 00:32:35,655 --> 00:32:37,257 WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO I DON'T WANT YOU TO TALK TO 613 00:32:37,257 --> 00:32:39,359 HER. I WAS LIKE, "OF COURSE, I'M NOT 614 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,461 GOING TO TALK TO HER." LIKE SHE'S A BLACK BELT IN LIKE 615 00:32:41,461 --> 00:32:45,699 KUNG FU OR WHATEVER. SHE WOULD BEAT ME UP 616 00:32:45,699 --> 00:32:46,933 >> Reporter: THEN THE NEXT MORNING, SHE HEARD JONATHAN HAD 617 00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:48,968 BEEN SHOT. EMILY'S GUT TOLD HER SOMETHING 618 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:52,238 WASN'T RIGHT IT WAS A FEELING SHE COULD NOT 619 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:55,108 SHAKE. >> I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHE 620 00:32:55,108 --> 00:32:58,111 HAD DONE SOMETHING TO HIM. I KNEW JONATHAN. 621 00:32:58,111 --> 00:33:01,414 I -- I KNEW THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS 622 00:33:01,414 --> 00:33:02,649 >> Reporter: SO THEN WHAT ABOUT THAT TEXT EMILY RECEIVED FROM 623 00:33:02,649 --> 00:33:05,685 JONATHAN AFTER THE SUPER BOWL? "I WANT TO DIE." 624 00:33:05,685 --> 00:33:06,686 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: DID HE TALK THAT 625 00:33:06,686 --> 00:33:09,255 WAY? >> NO. 626 00:33:09,255 --> 00:33:11,925 >> NO, JONATHAN WHEN HE GOT STRESSED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I 627 00:33:11,925 --> 00:33:15,095 USED TO LIVE WITH HIM, AND WHAT I KNOW ABOUT HIM, HE'D JUST GO 628 00:33:15,095 --> 00:33:17,797 SLEEP. HIM TEXTING JUST THAT ONE LITTLE 629 00:33:17,797 --> 00:33:20,967 THING WOULDN'T HAVE MADE SENSE HE WOULD HAVE SAID NOTHING AT 630 00:33:20,967 --> 00:33:23,203 ALL OR HE WOULD HAVE CALLED HER. >> Reporter: EMILY AND JACOB 631 00:33:23,203 --> 00:33:26,840 TURNED IT OVER AND OVER IN THEIR MINDS. 632 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,408 YOU NOW DO NOT BELIEVE JONATHAN SENT THAT TEXT 633 00:33:28,408 --> 00:33:29,509 >> NO. >> NO. 634 00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:32,746 >> Reporter: YOU THINK THAT'S BRENDA AFTER HE DIES 635 00:33:32,746 --> 00:33:35,915 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> A HUNDRED PERCENT 636 00:33:35,915 --> 00:33:39,285 >> Reporter: THE RAGING JEALOUSY, THAT UNHINGED PHONE 637 00:33:39,285 --> 00:33:41,254 CALL -- DID THOSE POINT TO MURDER 638 00:33:41,254 --> 00:33:46,726 THAT WAS HOW EMILY AND JACOB SAW IT 639 00:33:46,726 --> 00:33:48,695 NOW, WOULD POLICE AGREE? >> IF WE NEEDED TO TAKE YOUR 640 00:33:48,695 --> 00:33:52,732 DNA, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US DOIN' THAT? 641 00:34:11,851 --> 00:34:13,420 >> Reporter: IT WASN'T LONG AFTER JONATHAN CREWS DIED THAT 642 00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:16,589 HIS BEST FRIEND EMILY REACHED OUT TO HIS BROTHER 643 00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:19,793 SHE WANTED TO SHARE HER SUSPICIONS ABOUT BRENDA. 644 00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:22,429 >> HE SAID, "PLEASE DON'T TALK TO MY PARENTS ABOUT THIS RIGHT 645 00:34:22,429 --> 00:34:24,064 NOW. THEY HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON. 646 00:34:24,064 --> 00:34:26,700 THEY CANNOT HANDLE IT. >> Reporter: SO A WEEK AND A 647 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:29,903 HALF WENT BY BEFORE EMILY, JACOB, AND ANOTHER CLOSE FRIEND 648 00:34:29,903 --> 00:34:32,572 SAT DOWN IN THE FAMILY LIVING ROOM 649 00:34:32,572 --> 00:34:35,175 >> ONE OF THEM SAID, "SHOULD WE SHOW HER?" 650 00:34:35,175 --> 00:34:39,446 AND I SAID, "WELL, YOU'RE SHOWING ME NOW." 651 00:34:39,446 --> 00:34:41,581 AND SO THEY SHOWED ME THIS TEXT MESSAGE THAT SAID, "I WANT TO 652 00:34:41,581 --> 00:34:44,784 DIE. AND I SAID, "JONATHAN DIDN'T 653 00:34:44,784 --> 00:34:47,454 WRITE THAT." AND THEY SAID, "WE KNOW. 654 00:34:47,454 --> 00:34:51,191 WE KNOW HE WOULD NEVER WRITE THAT." 655 00:34:51,191 --> 00:34:54,394 >> Reporter: SO WHO DID? PAM ALREADY KNEW ABOUT BRENDA'S 656 00:34:54,394 --> 00:34:58,098 JEALOUS STREAK, BUT SAYS SHE WAS STUNNED AT HOW ON THE LAST DAY 657 00:34:58,098 --> 00:35:00,734 OF JONATHAN'S LIFE, BRENDA DEMONSTRATED SO MUCH FURY 658 00:35:00,734 --> 00:35:04,504 TOWARDS EMILY. >> I KNEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM 659 00:35:04,504 --> 00:35:08,241 WITH EMILY, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT ONGOING. 660 00:35:08,241 --> 00:35:11,911 >> Reporter: WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE HAVE BEEN IF HE HAD 661 00:35:11,911 --> 00:35:14,647 MENTIONED THAT TO YOU? >> RUN 662 00:35:14,647 --> 00:35:16,783 >> YES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR 663 00:35:16,783 --> 00:35:20,053 ME TO KNOW THAT WAS UNREASONABLE JEALOUSY 664 00:35:20,053 --> 00:35:22,655 >> Reporter: BY FAR EMILY AND JACOB'S BIGGEST REVELATION WAS 665 00:35:22,655 --> 00:35:26,493 JONATHAN'S PLAN TO BREAK UP WITH BRENDA ON THE VERY DAY HE WAS 666 00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:28,528 SHOT YOU WERE UNAWARE OF THAT UNTIL 667 00:35:28,528 --> 00:35:31,731 THAT MOMENT? >> I DIDN'T -- YEAH, I WAS 668 00:35:31,731 --> 00:35:34,934 THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ANY OF THAT, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE 669 00:35:34,934 --> 00:35:38,471 GAME CHANGER >> Reporter: THIS WAS THE MOMENT 670 00:35:38,471 --> 00:35:40,840 JONATHAN'S PARENTS BECAME CONVINCED IT WAS BRENDA WHO HAD 671 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,077 SHOT THEIR SON IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR FAMILIES 672 00:35:44,077 --> 00:35:47,247 OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN THEIR OWN LIVES TO NOT WANT TO ADMIT 673 00:35:47,247 --> 00:35:49,349 THAT THEY MISSED SOME OF THE SIGNS. 674 00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:51,451 >> RIGHT >> Reporter: AND SO THEY START 675 00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:54,087 LOOKING FOR SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ELSE TO BLAME. 676 00:35:54,087 --> 00:35:57,323 >> UH-HMM. >> Reporter: THAT'S NOT WHAT'S 677 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:58,925 GOING ON HERE? >> NO. 678 00:35:58,925 --> 00:36:01,594 >> NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT 679 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:03,730 >> Reporter: THE SIGNS YOU BLAME YOURSELF FOR MISSING ARE ALL 680 00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:05,899 ABOUT BRENDA >> ABSOLUTELY. 681 00:36:05,899 --> 00:36:08,034 >> Reporter: DANI ALSO BLAMED HERSELF. 682 00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:10,670 THE WOMAN SHE NOW SUSPECTED OF BEING HER BROTHER'S KILLER HAD 683 00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:13,340 BEEN HER BEST FRIEND THAT HAS TO BE A TERRIBLE 684 00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:16,042 FEELING. >> DEFINITELY MAKES ME QUESTION 685 00:36:16,042 --> 00:36:19,713 MY ABILITY TO -- TO READ PEOPLE. I MEAN, I TRUSTED THIS PERSON. 686 00:36:19,713 --> 00:36:23,049 >> Reporter: THE FAMILY'S SUSPICIONS WERE ACTUALLY JUST 687 00:36:23,049 --> 00:36:26,186 CATCHING UP WITH WHAT SOME INVESTIGATORS SUSPECTED FROM THE 688 00:36:26,186 --> 00:36:28,855 GET-GO POLICE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THE 689 00:36:28,855 --> 00:36:31,524 TENSION OVER EMILY THEY HEARD ABOUT IT FROM BRENDA 690 00:36:31,524 --> 00:36:36,396 THAT NIGHT >> I JUST TOLD HIM I DONT LIKE 691 00:36:36,396 --> 00:36:40,100 THAT GIRL. >> Reporter: RIGHT AWAY BRENDA 692 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,636 TOLD THIS POLICE OFFICER SHE AND JONATHAN HAD BEEN ARGUING ABOUT 693 00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:44,337 EMILY. >> IS THIS A FRIEND, AN 694 00:36:44,337 --> 00:36:46,506 EX-GIRLFRIEND, WHAT? >> FRIEND. 695 00:36:46,506 --> 00:36:50,243 IT'S A GIRLFRIEND OF HIS BEST FRIEND 696 00:36:50,243 --> 00:36:53,446 >> Reporter: SHE GAVE MORE DETAILS TO A SERGEANT AT THE 697 00:36:53,446 --> 00:36:57,183 POLICE STATION, INCLUDING HER TAKE ON THAT PHONE CALL WITH 698 00:36:57,183 --> 00:37:03,556 EMILY. >> I WAS UPSET WHEN I TALKED TO 699 00:37:03,556 --> 00:37:05,692 HER. I TOLD HER THAT SHE WAS ACTING 700 00:37:05,692 --> 00:37:08,361 FLIRTY >> Reporter: BRENDA SAID SHE 701 00:37:08,361 --> 00:37:12,132 BECAME EVEN MORE UPSET WHEN JONATHAN STOPPED TAKING HER 702 00:37:12,132 --> 00:37:15,835 CALLS AFTER THAT SO SHE SAID SHE WENT TO FIND HIM 703 00:37:15,835 --> 00:37:18,538 AT HIS APARTMENT >> WHEN I MET HIM, I WAS JUST 704 00:37:18,538 --> 00:37:21,207 REALLY UPSET AT HIM. >> OKAY. 705 00:37:21,207 --> 00:37:24,411 >> Reporter: THAT WAS LATE AFTERNOON, BRENDA SAID 706 00:37:24,411 --> 00:37:26,546 THEY ARGUED, BUT IT WAS BRIEF. AND EVERYTHING WAS FINE AS THEY 707 00:37:26,546 --> 00:37:29,249 GOT READY FOR DINNER >> WE WERE DOING DISHES WHILE WE 708 00:37:29,249 --> 00:37:33,053 WERE WAITING FOR THE FOOD, AND WE WERE -- WE WERE FINE. 709 00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:36,189 WE WERE HAVING FUN >> Reporter: BRENDA DID NOT 710 00:37:36,189 --> 00:37:38,858 MENTION ANYTHING TO POLICE ABOUT A BREAK-UP 711 00:37:38,858 --> 00:37:43,663 SHE DID SAY THEY'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT MOVING IN TOGETHER, AND 712 00:37:43,663 --> 00:37:46,833 SHE WORRIED JONATHAN WAS GETTING COLD FEET. 713 00:37:46,833 --> 00:37:51,638 >> I HAVE TO FIND SOMEWHERE TO LIVE 714 00:37:51,638 --> 00:37:55,909 >> OKAY. >> I WASN'T SURE THAT HE WAS 715 00:37:55,909 --> 00:37:59,112 SURE ABOUT ME LIVING WITH HIM. >> Reporter: SHE SAID EVEN 716 00:37:59,112 --> 00:38:02,882 THOUGH THINGS WERE CALM AS THEY ORDERED DINNER, JONATHAN LATER 717 00:38:02,882 --> 00:38:05,552 MENTIONED EMILY'S NAME AGAIN, LEADING TO ANOTHER QUARREL 718 00:38:05,552 --> 00:38:08,188 THAT'S WHEN SHE SAID JONATHAN TOLD HER TO COVER HER EARS 719 00:38:08,188 --> 00:38:12,492 AND THEN CAME THE GUNSHOT. >> I STAND UP RIGHT AWAY 720 00:38:12,492 --> 00:38:15,695 THEN I SAW BLOOD ON THE SHEETS, AND HE WAS JUST THERE. 721 00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:18,898 >> Reporter: WAS THAT THE WHOLE STORY? 722 00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:22,602 OR HAD THE STRESS AND JEALOUSY BOILED OVER INTO VIOLENCE? 723 00:38:22,602 --> 00:38:25,805 >> I NEED YOU TO BE AS HONEST WITH ME AS YOU CAN, ALL RIGHT? 724 00:38:25,805 --> 00:38:29,542 DID -- DID YOU SHOOT HIM >> NO. 725 00:38:29,542 --> 00:38:33,813 >> ARE YOU SURE? >> I AM SURE 726 00:38:33,813 --> 00:38:41,955 >> SO WHEN WE DO OUR INVESTIGATION, IS IT GONNA SHOW 727 00:38:41,955 --> 00:38:54,634 THAT HE SHOT HIMSELF >> YES 728 00:38:54,634 --> 00:38:59,439 >> IF WE -- WE NEEDED TO TAKE YOUR DNA, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM 729 00:38:59,439 --> 00:39:08,014 WITH US DOIN' THAT >> NO. 730 00:39:08,014 --> 00:39:11,685 >> Reporter: THE SERGEANT AND ANOTHER OFFICER SWABBED BRENDA'S 731 00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:14,921 HANDS FOR BLOOD AND A GUNSHOT RESIDUE TEST 732 00:39:14,921 --> 00:39:17,590 THEY ALSO TOOK HER SWEATSHIRT TO TEST FOR BLOOD SPATTER 733 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:20,794 IT WAS ALL PACKED UP FOR THE LAB, MARKED "RUSH. 734 00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:26,099 EMILY SAYS WHEN SHE WENT TO TALK WITH POLICE, THEY TOLD HER, 735 00:39:26,099 --> 00:39:28,234 "WATCH YOUR BACK." >> WHEN I WAS GIVING THEM MY 736 00:39:28,234 --> 00:39:32,572 PASSWORD TO LOG IN TO THE FACEBOOK, THEY HAD SAID TO ME, 737 00:39:32,572 --> 00:39:34,574 "YOU NEED TO NOT EVER TAG OR POST WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, 738 00:39:34,574 --> 00:39:38,378 BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO BE SOMEBODY THAT UPSETS HER. 739 00:39:38,378 --> 00:39:41,548 >> Reporter: WEEKS PASSED, THEN MONTHS 740 00:39:41,548 --> 00:39:44,751 THE LOCAL MEDICAL EXAMINER WAS FINISHING UP THE AUTOPSY REPORT. 741 00:39:44,751 --> 00:39:48,054 HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE MAKING SENSE OF EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED 742 00:39:48,054 --> 00:39:52,158 IF YOU'VE WATCHED ENOUGH "DATELINE," YOU PROBABLY KNOW A 743 00:39:52,158 --> 00:39:55,895 DEATH CERTIFICATE HAS TWO IMPORTANT BOXES TO CHECK 744 00:39:55,895 --> 00:40:00,700 FIRST IS THE CAUSE OF DEATH, IN THIS CASE PRETTY OBVIOUS, A 745 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:01,868 GUNSHOT WOUND. AND JUST AS IMPORTANT, A MEDICAL 746 00:40:01,868 --> 00:40:06,539 EXAMINER HAS TO DETERMINE THE MANNER OF DEATH. 747 00:40:06,539 --> 00:40:11,911 WAS THIS ACCIDENT, SUICIDE, OR HOMICIDE 748 00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:13,513 AND IN THIS CASE, THE M.E. COULDN'T REACH A CONCLUSION. 749 00:40:13,513 --> 00:40:19,886 SO JONATHAN'S DEATH WENT DOWN AS "UNDETERMINED. 750 00:40:19,886 --> 00:40:22,055 THEN NEARLY A YEAR AFTER THE SHOOTING, JONATHAN'S PARENTS 751 00:40:22,055 --> 00:40:25,792 LEARNED THERE WAS A NEW TEAM ASSIGNED TO THEIR SON'S CASE 752 00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:28,461 >> THEY SAID, "THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE WHO INVESTIGATED THIS ARE 753 00:40:28,461 --> 00:40:30,597 NO LONGER ON THE CASE. YOU GOT, BASICALLY, A NEW TEAM 754 00:40:30,597 --> 00:40:32,699 ON THE FILE. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT VERY 755 00:40:32,699 --> 00:40:34,868 CLOSELY. AND THEY BEGAN TO MAKE NOISES 756 00:40:34,868 --> 00:40:37,804 ABOUT MAKING AN ARREST >> THE THING I REMEMBER THEM 757 00:40:37,804 --> 00:40:40,206 SAYING RIGHT OFF THE BAT WHEN WE GOT IN THERE WAS, "GIVE US ABOUT 758 00:40:40,206 --> 00:40:43,977 SIX WEEKS AND WE THINK THAT WILL HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU. 759 00:40:43,977 --> 00:40:49,849 >> Reporter: THAT IS WHY WHAT HAPPENED NEXT CAME AS A SHOCK 760 00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:50,950 AND LED THEM TO THIS WOMAN YOU WON'T SUGARCOAT THIS FOR 761 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:53,520 PEOPLE >> NO, NOT AT ALL. 762 00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:13,506 >> A YEAR AFTER JONATHAN'S DEATH, NEW INVESTIGATORS WERE ON 763 00:41:13,506 --> 00:41:16,276 THE CASE HIS PARENTS EXPECTED BRENDA TO 764 00:41:16,276 --> 00:41:21,548 BE CHARGED AT ANY MOMENT WITH HIS KILLING. 765 00:41:21,548 --> 00:41:24,784 THEN CAME UNEXPECTED NEWS. THE FAMILY SAYS DETECTIVES TOLD 766 00:41:24,784 --> 00:41:29,089 THEM AN ARREST WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON. 767 00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:32,225 >> Reporter: I'M PRETTY SURE YOU SAID WHAT CHANGED. 768 00:41:32,225 --> 00:41:36,396 YOU MADE US THINK THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A -- AN ARREST FOR 769 00:41:36,396 --> 00:41:38,998 MURDER. AND WHAT'S NEW NOW >> WE STARTED GETTING A LOT 770 00:41:38,998 --> 00:41:41,835 OF -- I CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT 771 00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:45,572 >> HERE'S THEIR MEMORY OF WHAT POLICE DID SAY 772 00:41:45,572 --> 00:41:48,775 >> WHEN THEY STARTED TELLING US WE CAN'T GET HER, WE DON'T HAVE 773 00:41:48,775 --> 00:41:51,444 ENOUGH, THEY SAID BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF CRIME SHE'LL BE 774 00:41:51,444 --> 00:41:54,614 LIKELY TO -- TO REPEAT. AND WE'LL GET HER THE NEXT TIME. 775 00:41:54,614 --> 00:41:57,283 >> Reporter: WE'LL GET HER THE NEXT TIME. 776 00:41:57,283 --> 00:41:59,419 >> TO THAT EFFECT. >> Reporter: YOUR SON IS LIKE 777 00:41:59,419 --> 00:42:03,723 THE FREE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF BINGO. 778 00:42:03,723 --> 00:42:04,758 LIKE - >> YES 779 00:42:04,758 --> 00:42:07,427 >> Reporter: THAT'S -- YOU GET ONE, BUT THEN AFTER THAT - 780 00:42:07,427 --> 00:42:09,562 WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEARD THAT 781 00:42:09,562 --> 00:42:11,898 >> I WAS APPALLED. I THOUGHT IF -- I BET THEY 782 00:42:11,898 --> 00:42:14,200 WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF THEY THOUGHT THE NEXT PERSON WAS 783 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,503 GOING TO BE THEIR SON. >> BRENDA HIRED A LAWYER WHO 784 00:42:16,503 --> 00:42:18,104 TOLD POLICE SHE WOULDN'T BE TALKING. 785 00:42:18,104 --> 00:42:19,673 AND IN JULY 2015, JONATHAN'S CASE WAS MARKED INACTIVE 786 00:42:19,673 --> 00:42:22,909 >> I THINK THE LAST THING THEY SAID TO US WAS LIVE YOUR LIVES 787 00:42:22,909 --> 00:42:24,344 >> GREAT ADVICE. >> Reporter: WELL, THAT'S -- 788 00:42:24,344 --> 00:42:25,745 >> THANK YOU >> Reporter: THAT'S EASIER SAID 789 00:42:25,745 --> 00:42:29,182 THAN DONE, ISN'T IT? >> YES 790 00:42:29,182 --> 00:42:30,850 >> Reporter: YEAH. >> THE LAST THING THEY WERE 791 00:42:30,850 --> 00:42:33,486 GOING TO DO WAS STOP TRYING TO GET ANSWERS FOR JONATHAN 792 00:42:33,486 --> 00:42:37,791 JONATHAN'S FATHER IS AN ATTORNEY 793 00:42:37,791 --> 00:42:43,463 HE REACHED OUT TO TOM SHAW, A COLLEAGUE HE'D BATTLED IN COURT. 794 00:42:43,463 --> 00:42:46,366 TOM WORKS WITH HIS SON TAYLOR. >> I FELT SORRY FOR THEM BECAUSE 795 00:42:46,366 --> 00:42:50,103 THEY WERE -- THEY WERE TWO BROKEN PEOPLE AT THAT POINT. 796 00:42:50,103 --> 00:42:53,306 >> I COULD SEE A BROKEN FAMILY THAT WAS LOOKING FOR AN 797 00:42:53,306 --> 00:42:57,577 EXPLANATION. >> THEY TALKED ABOUT FILING A 798 00:42:57,577 --> 00:43:02,882 WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT AGAINST BRENDA AND DECIDED TO BRING ON A 799 00:43:02,882 --> 00:43:05,552 PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR >> Reporter: WHY DID YOU 800 00:43:05,552 --> 00:43:08,221 RECOMMEND SHEILA WYSOCKI >> I WAS FASCINATED BY HER 801 00:43:08,221 --> 00:43:10,090 STORY. >> Reporter: THAT WAS A STORY I 802 00:43:10,090 --> 00:43:13,560 COVERED ON "DATELINE" BACK IN 2012 803 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,530 SHEILA WAS A SUBURBAN MOM WHO BECAME A P.I. JUST TO HELP SOLVE 804 00:43:17,530 --> 00:43:21,568 HER COLLEGE ROOMMATE'S COLD CASE MURDER 805 00:43:21,568 --> 00:43:24,237 SHE DID IT IN PART BY GETTING ON THE PHONE TO THE POLICE 806 00:43:24,237 --> 00:43:26,373 DEPARTMENT SHE DID THAT MORE THAN 807 00:43:26,373 --> 00:43:28,074 700 TIMES. >> Reporter: YOU FOUGHT PRETTY 808 00:43:28,074 --> 00:43:30,377 HARD TO FIND OUT WHO KILLED HER. >> I DID 809 00:43:30,377 --> 00:43:34,347 I DID. >> NOW HERE WE WERE AGAIN MORE 810 00:43:34,347 --> 00:43:37,851 THAN A DECADE LATER. >> Reporter: I'M TEMPTED TO SAY 811 00:43:37,851 --> 00:43:40,220 THAT YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A P.I., EXCEPT THAT I THINK THAT THE 812 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:43,423 FACT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS THAT YOU PROBABLY DO LOOK 813 00:43:43,423 --> 00:43:46,126 LIKE AN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE P.I. >> I CAN GET THROUGH DOORS 814 00:43:46,126 --> 00:43:48,795 BECAUSE I LOOK LIKE EVERYBODY'S MOM. 815 00:43:48,795 --> 00:43:53,566 IF I KNOCK, I'M EITHER LOST, RUNS THROUGH YOUR MIND, OR 816 00:43:53,566 --> 00:43:57,337 THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THIS OLDER LADY'S 817 00:43:57,337 --> 00:44:00,740 KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR. >> Reporter: AND SUDDENLY THERE 818 00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:02,075 YOU ARE AND YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS? 819 00:44:02,075 --> 00:44:05,812 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: SHEILA WORKS WITH 820 00:44:05,812 --> 00:44:10,116 ANOTHER P.I. DANIELLE BURCH. AND AGREED TO HELP JONATHAN'S 821 00:44:10,116 --> 00:44:13,319 PARENTS, ON ONE CONDITION. >> THEY SAID IT WAS CALLED IN AS 822 00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:17,057 A SUICIDE. AND I TOLD THEM, IF I TAKE THE 823 00:44:17,057 --> 00:44:19,726 CASE THAT IF IT'S SUICIDE, I STOP 824 00:44:19,726 --> 00:44:23,463 WE'RE DONE >> Reporter: I MEAN, YOU WON'T 825 00:44:23,463 --> 00:44:26,132 SUGARCOAT THIS FOR PEOPLE. >> NO, NOT AT ALL, PROBABLY A 826 00:44:26,132 --> 00:44:29,336 LITTLE TOO, UH, FORTHCOMING. IF YOU BELIEVE IT'S MURDER AND 827 00:44:29,336 --> 00:44:33,573 IT'S SUICIDE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE ME 828 00:44:33,573 --> 00:44:37,243 >> I WAS SCARED OF HER BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST VERY KURT 829 00:44:37,243 --> 00:44:39,913 AND SHE SAID I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM EVERY ANGLE 830 00:44:39,913 --> 00:44:41,715 AND IF I FIND OUT YOUR SON KILLED HIMSELF, I'M GOING TO 831 00:44:41,715 --> 00:44:45,318 TELL YOU CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT 832 00:44:45,318 --> 00:44:47,520 AND I SAID, YES. >> Reporter: SHEILA STARTED BY 833 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,691 ASKING JONATHAN'S FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS ABOUT HIS MENTAL 834 00:44:51,691 --> 00:44:56,096 HEALTH SEEMED SUICIDAL OR EVEN 835 00:44:56,096 --> 00:45:00,266 DEPRESSED. >> WE PULLED HIS RECORDS FROM 836 00:45:00,266 --> 00:45:02,402 THE DOCTOR NOTHING. 837 00:45:02,402 --> 00:45:06,106 WE WENT TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY HE WAS COVERED UNDER AND LOOKED 838 00:45:06,106 --> 00:45:09,309 TO SEE IF THERE WAS A PSYCHIATRIST, PSYCHOLOGIST OR 839 00:45:09,309 --> 00:45:12,712 WHATEVER >> Reporter: A YEAR EARLIER, HE 840 00:45:12,712 --> 00:45:15,148 HAD BEEN PRESCRIBED THE ANTI-ANXIETY MEDICATION XANAX 841 00:45:15,148 --> 00:45:19,452 BUT TOLD HIS FAMILY HE ONLY TOOK ONE PILL AND NEVER REFILLED THE 842 00:45:19,452 --> 00:45:21,588 PRESCRIPTION >> Reporter: ANY EVIDENCE THAT 843 00:45:21,588 --> 00:45:24,257 HE WAS UNDER PSYCHIATRIC CARE OR WAS ON ANY KIND OF 844 00:45:24,257 --> 00:45:26,893 ANTI-DEPRESSANTS >> THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE 845 00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:31,164 >> Reporter: AS SHEILA WORKED, THE FAMILY FILED THEIR CIVIL 846 00:45:31,164 --> 00:45:34,901 LAWSUIT AGAINST BRENDA SEEKING MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS IN 847 00:45:34,901 --> 00:45:38,104 DAMAGES AND ASKING FOR A JURY TRIAL. 848 00:45:38,104 --> 00:45:41,841 SHEILA MANAGED TO GET HER HANDS ON PART OF THE POLICE CASE FILE. 849 00:45:41,841 --> 00:45:45,078 AND THIS DETAIL CAUGHT SHEILA'S ATTENTION. 850 00:45:45,078 --> 00:45:49,282 REMEMBER HOW INVESTIGATORS FOUND THE MAGAZINE OF THE GUN THAT 851 00:45:49,282 --> 00:45:52,519 KILLED JONATHAN IN A DRAWER? WELL, THAT DRAWER ALSO HELD HIS 852 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,188 NECKTIES, AND ONE THING SHEILA KNEW ABOUT JONATHAN WAS THAT HE 853 00:45:55,188 --> 00:46:00,026 CARED ABOUT HOW HE LOOKED AND DRESSED. 854 00:46:00,026 --> 00:46:03,163 >> JONATHAN IS A TIE PERSON. HE'S VERY METICULOUS ABOUT HIS 855 00:46:03,163 --> 00:46:07,434 CLOTHES. AND HAVING A GREASY MAGAZINE IN 856 00:46:07,434 --> 00:46:12,772 HIS TIE DRAWER DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 857 00:46:12,772 --> 00:46:15,942 >> Reporter: HAD SOMEONE ELSE PUT IT THERE 858 00:46:15,942 --> 00:46:18,078 AND COULD THAT SOMEONE BE BRENDA 859 00:46:18,078 --> 00:46:21,848 AS SHE TRACKED DOWN WITNESSES, SHEILA FOUND SOMEONE POLICE HAD 860 00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,050 NEVER SPOKEN WITH. IT'S THE DELIVERY MAN WHO 861 00:46:24,050 --> 00:46:28,254 BROUGHT JONATHAN AND BRENDA CHINESE FOOD ON THAT FINAL 862 00:46:28,254 --> 00:46:31,958 NIGHT. HE RECALLED A VERBAL ARGUMENT SO 863 00:46:31,958 --> 00:46:35,161 INTENSE HE COULD HEAR IT FROM THE HALLWAY. 864 00:46:35,161 --> 00:46:37,297 >> THE CHINESE DELIVERY GUY SHOWS UP AND HE KNOCKS ON THE 865 00:46:37,297 --> 00:46:41,534 DOOR AND HE HAS TO CONTINUOUSLY KNOCK ON THE DOOR BECAUSE 866 00:46:41,534 --> 00:46:45,305 THEY'RE FIGHTING BEHIND THE DOOR 867 00:46:45,305 --> 00:46:47,073 HE COULDN'T GET THEIR ATTENTION. >> Reporter: CAN HE HEAR THEM 868 00:46:47,073 --> 00:46:52,746 FIGHTING >> HE COULD HEAR FIGHTING BUT 869 00:46:52,746 --> 00:46:55,949 NOT THE WORDS. >> Reporter: SHEILA ALSO LOCATED 870 00:46:55,949 --> 00:46:59,719 A WITNESS WHO'D ALREADY BEEN INTERVIEWED BY POLICE -- A 871 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,491 NEIGHBOR OF JONATHAN'S WHO SAID SHE HEARD WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A 872 00:47:04,491 --> 00:47:06,893 GUNSHOT JUST BEFORE 11:00 P.M. HERE SHE IS IN A VIDEOTAPED 873 00:47:06,893 --> 00:47:11,431 DEPOSITION RECORDED FOR THE LAWSUIT. 874 00:47:11,431 --> 00:47:16,236 >> I SAT UP, I JUST THOUGHT TO MYSELF "WAS THAT A GUNSHOT? 875 00:47:16,236 --> 00:47:20,807 COULDN'T BE IN THIS AREA." IT'S A NICE AREA AND SO I JUST 876 00:47:20,807 --> 00:47:22,642 LAY BACK DOWN. >> Reporter: REMEMBER HOW IN HER 877 00:47:22,642 --> 00:47:26,046 CALL TO 911 BRENDA SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW THE ADDRESS? 878 00:47:26,046 --> 00:47:30,617 >> I WANT YOU TO GO AND KNOCK ON A DOOR OR FIND A NAME OF 879 00:47:30,617 --> 00:47:32,852 SOMETHING. >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S NEIGHBOR 880 00:47:32,852 --> 00:47:34,387 SAYS SHE HEARD A KNOCK ON HER DOOR 881 00:47:34,387 --> 00:47:37,590 >> WHAT WAS THE TIME GAP IF YOU CAN REMEMBER WAS IT RIGHT AWAY 882 00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:41,327 THAT YOU HEARD THE KNOCK ON THE DOOR 883 00:47:41,327 --> 00:47:44,531 >> IT WASN'T RIGHT AWAY IT SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 884 00:47:44,531 --> 00:47:48,268 MAYBE 20 MINUTES >> OKAY. 885 00:47:48,268 --> 00:47:50,937 >> Reporter: IN HER INTERVIEW WITH POLICE THE NEIGHBOR GUESSED 886 00:47:50,937 --> 00:47:55,208 IT COULD HAVE BEEN AS LONG AS 45 MINUTES 887 00:47:55,208 --> 00:47:58,945 WHY THE TIME GAP TOM SHAW HAS HIS SUSPICIONS. 888 00:47:58,945 --> 00:48:02,649 >> SHE WAS STALLING TO WAIT FOR HIM TO DIE 889 00:48:02,649 --> 00:48:04,551 >> Reporter: YOU THINK SHE WAITED LIKE WHAT A HALF HOUR TO 890 00:48:04,551 --> 00:48:06,386 CALL 911 >> YES 891 00:48:06,386 --> 00:48:09,055 BE DEAD? >> YES 892 00:48:09,055 --> 00:48:11,224 >> Reporter: SHEILA TOO IS SKEPTICAL OF THE WHOLE "DIDN'T 893 00:48:11,224 --> 00:48:15,028 KNOW THE ADDRESS" ELEMENT OF BRENDA'S STORY 894 00:48:15,028 --> 00:48:19,165 SHE THINKS THAT MAY ALSO HAVE BEEN A STALLING TACTIC 895 00:48:19,165 --> 00:48:24,037 >> SHE HELPED JONATHAN PICK OUT THE LOCATION 896 00:48:24,037 --> 00:48:28,875 IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM KUNG FU, AND SHE HAS A HARD TIME 897 00:48:28,875 --> 00:48:31,544 TELLING THEM WHERE SHE WAS >> Reporter: BUT IF YOU BELIEVE 898 00:48:31,544 --> 00:48:36,349 BRENDA, SHE JUST SAW HER BOYFRIEND KILL HIMSELF 899 00:48:36,349 --> 00:48:40,620 AND SHE'S HYSTERICAL AND SHE'S A LITTLE OVERWROUGHT AS SOMEBODY 900 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:44,891 MIGHT BE IN THAT SITUATION SO, MAYBE SHE ISN'T FUNCTIONING 901 00:48:44,891 --> 00:48:54,067 THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT OR YOU WOULD HOPE 902 00:48:54,067 --> 00:48:56,636 >> TRUE OR SHE JUST SHOT HIM AND SHE'S JUST TRYING -- SHE'S 903 00:48:56,636 --> 00:48:58,738 PANICKED A LITTLE BIT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW SHE'S GOING TO 904 00:48:58,738 --> 00:49:01,441 GET OUT OF THIS. >> Reporter: THIS IS HIS BRAND 905 00:49:01,441 --> 00:49:02,342 NEW APARTMENT. >> THAT SHE HELPED PICK OUT. 906 00:49:02,342 --> 00:49:03,677 >> Reporter: OKAY. BUT IT'S POSSIBLE -- HE'S ONLY 907 00:49:03,677 --> 00:49:05,679 BEEN THERE A WEEK, MAYBE SHE DOESN'T KNOW THE ADDRESS 908 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:11,551 >> OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT 909 00:49:11,551 --> 00:49:14,754 >> Reporter: THERE WAS MORE IN THE CASE FILE THAT RAISED RED 910 00:49:14,754 --> 00:49:18,491 FLAGS FOR SHEILA THE TRAJECTORY OF THE BULLET 911 00:49:18,491 --> 00:49:23,329 THAT KILLED JONATHAN SEEMED TO BE TELLING A STORY, ONE THAT 912 00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:28,635 DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND THE STORY IS THAT JONATHAN 913 00:49:28,635 --> 00:49:29,069 AND THE STORY IS THAT JONATHAN SHOT HIMSELF LIKE THIS 914 00:49:51,257 --> 00:49:55,462 THEIR SON WAS UNBEARABLE FOR PAM AND JOHN CREWS 915 00:49:55,462 --> 00:49:59,265 SOME MOMENTS WERE WORSE THAN OTHERS 916 00:49:59,265 --> 00:50:03,003 >> JONATHAN LOVED CHRISTMAS. HE LOVED HOLIDAYS. 917 00:50:03,003 --> 00:50:05,705 AND SO CHRISTMAS MUSIC WAS JUST AN ASSAULT 918 00:50:05,705 --> 00:50:08,308 AND WE HAD A FEW TIMES WHERE WE JUST COULDN'T KEEP IT TOGETHER 919 00:50:08,308 --> 00:50:11,478 >> Reporter: AS THE CIVIL CASE MOVED FORWARD, THE FAMILY'S 920 00:50:11,478 --> 00:50:14,948 PRIVATE EYE SHEILA WYSOCKI KEPT REVISITING ONE DETAIL -- THE 921 00:50:14,948 --> 00:50:17,951 LOCATION OF JONATHAN'S WOUND TRADITIONALLY, WHEN MEN KILL 922 00:50:17,951 --> 00:50:20,720 THEMSELVES WITH A GUN, THEY SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE HEAD 923 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,722 >> ESPECIALLY SOMEBODY WHO'S WELL EDUCATED AS JONATHAN ON 924 00:50:22,722 --> 00:50:25,959 GUNS SO JONATHAN WAS TRAINED IN GUN 925 00:50:25,959 --> 00:50:29,062 SAFETY AND DID COMPETITIONS. SO IF HE'S GOING TO KILL HIMSELF 926 00:50:29,062 --> 00:50:32,298 OVER A GIRL OR ANYBODY, HE'S GOING TO KNOW HOW TO PUT A GUN 927 00:50:32,298 --> 00:50:35,001 TO HIS MOUTH OR HIS HEAD AND GET IT OVER WITH 928 00:50:35,001 --> 00:50:38,705 >> Reporter: SHE ALSO GOT A LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THOSE GUNSHOT 929 00:50:38,705 --> 00:50:42,442 RESIDUE TESTS CONDUCTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. 930 00:50:42,442 --> 00:50:46,179 JONATHAN HAD GSR ON HIS RIGHT HAND 931 00:50:46,179 --> 00:50:48,848 AND BRENDA THE LAB DETECTED RESIDUE ON BOTH 932 00:50:48,848 --> 00:50:52,585 HER HANDS AND THE FRONT OF HER SWEATSHIRT 933 00:50:52,585 --> 00:50:57,390 THAT SEEMED ODD TO SHEILA SINCE BRENDA DESCRIBED BEING AT THE 934 00:50:57,390 --> 00:51:04,831 FOOT OF THE BED WHEN THE SHOOTING HAPPENED. 935 00:51:04,831 --> 00:51:09,636 >> ARE YOU AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BED? 936 00:51:09,636 --> 00:51:12,339 YES. YOU CAN GET GUNPOWDER ON YOU, 937 00:51:12,339 --> 00:51:16,076 BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS AN INVESTIGATOR. 938 00:51:16,076 --> 00:51:18,978 >> Reporter: IN 2018, SHEILA ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF PRIVATE 939 00:51:18,978 --> 00:51:21,381 INVESTIGATORS AND FORENSIC EXPERTS. 940 00:51:21,381 --> 00:51:25,118 >> WE SPENT PROBABLY EIGHT TO TEN HOURS ON JONATHAN'S BED WITH 941 00:51:25,118 --> 00:51:29,155 THE TRAJECTORY OF THE BULLET TO SEE IT 942 00:51:29,155 --> 00:51:31,524 DOES IT WORK DOES IT -- DOES IT NOT 943 00:51:31,524 --> 00:51:34,728 >> Reporter: SHEILA SAYS THEY KNEW THE EXACT PATH THE BULLET 944 00:51:34,728 --> 00:51:37,931 TOOK THROUGH JONATHAN'S BODY BASED ON THE AUTOPSY 945 00:51:37,931 --> 00:51:41,468 AND LAW ENFORCEMENT LATER DETERMINED THE GUN WAS FIRED AT 946 00:51:41,468 --> 00:51:44,871 CLOSE RANGE. THE GSR TESTS TOLD THEM JONATHAN 947 00:51:44,871 --> 00:51:48,108 MUST HAVE HELD THE GUN WITH HIS RIGHT HAND 948 00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:52,679 SO TO THEM THAT MEANT THERE WAS ONLY ONE WAY JONATHAN COULD HAVE 949 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,116 SHOT HIMSELF THIS IS AN EXACT REPLICA OF THE 950 00:51:56,116 --> 00:51:59,819 GUN? >> IT IS 951 00:51:59,819 --> 00:52:03,056 >> Reporter: AND THE STORY IS THAT JONATHAN SHOT HIMSELF LIKE 952 00:52:03,056 --> 00:52:07,293 THIS >> YES 953 00:52:07,293 --> 00:52:12,098 >> Reporter: WHY WOULD ANYBODY USE THIS GRIP? 954 00:52:12,098 --> 00:52:16,336 WHY WOULD ANYBODY SHOOT THEMSELVES IN SUCH AN INCREDIBLY 955 00:52:16,336 --> 00:52:20,607 AWKWARD WAY? >> NOBODY WOULD. 956 00:52:20,607 --> 00:52:23,777 >> Reporter: TO SHEILA AND THE FAMILY, THE EVIDENCE WAS CLEAR 957 00:52:23,777 --> 00:52:26,379 JONATHAN DID NOT KILL HIMSELF. AS THEIR WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT 958 00:52:26,379 --> 00:52:28,581 WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURTS, THEY DIDN'T GIVE UP ON 959 00:52:28,581 --> 00:52:32,285 THE IDEA OF CRIMINAL CHARGES >> THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT 960 00:52:32,285 --> 00:52:34,454 IT WAS WHEN HIS PARENTS ASKED IF THEY COULD COME AND TALK TO ME 961 00:52:34,454 --> 00:52:37,657 >> Reporter: MIKE SNIPES JOINED THE DALLAS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S 962 00:52:37,657 --> 00:52:40,827 OFFICE AS A PROSECUTOR IN 2017, ABOUT 3 THREE YEARS AFTER 963 00:52:40,827 --> 00:52:44,097 JONATHAN'S DEATH AFTER THE CREWS FAMILY REACHED 964 00:52:44,097 --> 00:52:47,200 OUT, SNIPES WAS ASKED TO LOOK INTO JONATHAN'S CASE 965 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,470 >> IT'S A CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CASE, BUT IN MY MIND, A 966 00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:54,207 VERY, VERY GOOD ONE. >> Reporter: SNIPES SAYS ONE 967 00:52:54,207 --> 00:52:57,944 STUMBLING BLOCK IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS CAN BE WHAT'S 968 00:52:57,944 --> 00:53:01,214 WRITTEN ON THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S REPORT. 969 00:53:01,214 --> 00:53:03,249 SO IF THE CORONER SAYS CAUSE OF DEATH IS UNDETERMINED AND YOU GO 970 00:53:03,249 --> 00:53:04,417 IN WITH A MURDER CASE, LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF YOUR REASONABLE 971 00:53:04,417 --> 00:53:07,520 DOUBT RIGHT THERE. EVEN THE CORONER CAN'T MAKE UP 972 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,690 THEIR MIND >> IT CONCEIVABLY COULD BE 973 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:14,461 >> Reporter: AND IT MAKES IT A LOT HARDER 974 00:53:14,461 --> 00:53:18,064 >> YES >> Reporter: DIFFICULT, HE SAYS, 975 00:53:18,064 --> 00:53:20,333 BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE >> WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THAT THE 976 00:53:20,333 --> 00:53:24,604 STORY THAT SHE GAVE TO THE POLICE, AND THAT WAS THE 977 00:53:24,604 --> 00:53:28,942 PREVAILING STORY, THAT IT WAS SUICIDE, WAS PHYSICALLY 978 00:53:28,942 --> 00:53:32,078 IMPOSSIBLE, LEAVING IT ONLY ONE OTHER PERSON COULD HAVE DONE IT. 979 00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:33,646 AND THAT WAS THE SUSPECT SO THAT WAS KIND OF MY HOLY 980 00:53:33,646 --> 00:53:37,384 GRAIL ON THIS. >> Reporter: SNIPES SAYS HE 981 00:53:37,384 --> 00:53:39,486 WANTED POLICE TO KEEP INVESTIGATING AND SUGGESTED 982 00:53:39,486 --> 00:53:43,790 STEPS INVESTIGATORS COULD TAKE TO BRING THE CASE CLOSER TO A 983 00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:46,993 CRIMINAL PROSECUTION >> I WAS WANTING THE CASE TO GO 984 00:53:46,993 --> 00:53:50,196 TO THE GRAND JURY. I JUST HAD SOME MORE THINGS I 985 00:53:50,196 --> 00:53:55,001 WANTED THE COPPELL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO, AND THAT JUST 986 00:53:55,001 --> 00:53:58,672 NEVER HAPPENED >> Reporter: BUT WHAT, YOU WERE 987 00:53:58,672 --> 00:54:01,908 OVERRULED? >> NO, I WASN'T OVERRULED. 988 00:54:01,908 --> 00:54:05,111 BUT YOU WANT TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DECIDE THAT THEY WANT 989 00:54:05,111 --> 00:54:09,315 TO FILE THE CASE WITH THE D.A.'S OFFICE, AND THEY NEVER REACHED 990 00:54:09,315 --> 00:54:13,153 THAT POINT >> Reporter: SNIPES LEFT THE 991 00:54:13,153 --> 00:54:16,890 D.A.'S OFFICE AT THE END OF 2018, AND THE CRIMINAL 992 00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:19,559 INVESTIGATION WENT NOWHERE THE CIVIL CASE CONTINUED, ALONG 993 00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,329 WITH SHEILA'S INVESTIGATION. SHE'D FOUND DOZENS OF WITNESSES, 994 00:54:23,329 --> 00:54:27,067 INCLUDING SOMEONE FROM BRENDA'S PAST 995 00:54:27,067 --> 00:54:29,135 >> SHE JUST HELD SOME SCISSORS IN HER HAND, SAID, "I'M GOING TO 996 00:54:29,135 --> 00:54:31,338 GO SEE YOUR MOM. THAT WAS ONE TIME. 997 00:54:31,338 --> 00:54:35,075 AND THAT'S THE TIME THAT I CALLED THE POLICE ON HER 998 00:54:50,623 --> 00:54:54,361 >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S BEST FRIEND EMILY TOLD ANYONE WHO'D 999 00:54:54,361 --> 00:54:58,465 LISTEN ABOUT HIS LIFE, ABOUT HIS DEATH, AND ABOUT THE GIRLFRIEND 1000 00:54:58,465 --> 00:55:00,734 SHE SUSPECTED OF KILLING HIM >> THERE WAS A GIRL THAT HAD 1001 00:55:00,734 --> 00:55:04,037 JUST RECENTLY STARTED WORKING AT MY COMPANY 1002 00:55:04,037 --> 00:55:06,673 AS WE WERE BUILDING A RAPPORT AND A FRIENDSHIP, SHE KNEW A LOT 1003 00:55:06,673 --> 00:55:09,342 ABOUT WHAT HAD BEEN HAPPENING. SHE ASKED ME TO SEE WHAT THE 1004 00:55:09,342 --> 00:55:12,045 GIRL LOOKS LIKE. SO, I TOOK MY PHONE AND I HANDED 1005 00:55:12,045 --> 00:55:14,381 IT TO HER AND I LEFT THE ROOM AND WENT TO THE BATHROOM 1006 00:55:14,381 --> 00:55:17,317 AND WHEN I CAME BACK IN, I WILL NEVER FORGET IT, HER FACE WAS 1007 00:55:17,317 --> 00:55:19,686 PRETTY MUCH WHITE. >> Reporter: THE CO-WORKER KNEW 1008 00:55:19,686 --> 00:55:21,588 ALL ABOUT BRENDA SHE WAS FRIENDS WITH THE MAN 1009 00:55:21,588 --> 00:55:26,626 BRENDA DATED BEFORE MEETING JONATHAN AND THAT EX HAD SOME 1010 00:55:26,626 --> 00:55:29,062 STORIES. >> I CONTACTED THE POLICE AND 1011 00:55:29,062 --> 00:55:32,532 SAID, LIKE, HI, I HAVE -- I HAVE THIS PERSON, YOU GUYS SHOULD 1012 00:55:32,532 --> 00:55:34,934 TALK TO HIM. >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO POLICE 1013 00:55:34,934 --> 00:55:38,171 RECORDS A DETECTIVE VISITED BRENDA'S EX BUT HE WASN'T HOME 1014 00:55:38,171 --> 00:55:41,341 SO THE DETECTIVE LEFT A BUSINESS CARD AND ANOTHER AT THE MAN'S 1015 00:55:41,341 --> 00:55:43,510 MOTHER'S HOUSE >> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY 1016 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:48,848 TRIED TO CONTACT HIM HE WASN'T AVAILABLE AND THERE 1017 00:55:48,848 --> 00:55:53,653 WAS NO FOLLOW UP >> WHICH IN FAIRNESS, THIS IS 1018 00:55:53,653 --> 00:55:59,092 THE POLICE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SPEAK 1019 00:55:59,092 --> 00:56:02,228 WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION, THEY CAN MAKE 1020 00:56:02,228 --> 00:56:05,432 THAT HAPPEN. >> Reporter: SHEILA SUCCESSFULLY 1021 00:56:05,432 --> 00:56:09,703 TRACKED HIM DOWN SO DID WE. 1022 00:56:09,703 --> 00:56:13,440 >> Reporter: HIS NAME IS MATTHEW KIRK 1023 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,109 AND HE MIGHT BE THE MOST INTERESTING MAN IN IRVING TEXAS. 1024 00:56:16,109 --> 00:56:18,712 >> I HAVE AN INSURANCE BUSINESS. I PAINT, I DO BALLET, I PRACTICE 1025 00:56:18,712 --> 00:56:21,448 MARTIAL ARTS AND I LOST, UH, 65 POUNDS SINCE 1026 00:56:21,448 --> 00:56:24,084 2019 >> Reporter: THE MARTIAL ARTS 1027 00:56:24,084 --> 00:56:27,287 PART OF THAT IS WHAT CONNECTED HIM TO BRENDA. 1028 00:56:27,287 --> 00:56:29,956 >> SO I MET BRENDA IN NORTH LAKE COLLEGE. 1029 00:56:29,956 --> 00:56:33,793 I MET HER IN OUR KUNG FU CLASS WE'RE TAKING TOGETHER, TAKEN 1030 00:56:33,793 --> 00:56:35,829 FIRST SEMESTER >> BRENDA WAS, UH, SHE WAS A 1031 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:39,065 GOOD GIRL AND SHE'S A CARING PERSON 1032 00:56:39,065 --> 00:56:42,736 SHE WAS A VERY HARD WORKER SHE WORKED OUT HARD. 1033 00:56:42,736 --> 00:56:45,805 SHE'S VERY INTELLIGENT SHE'S A VERY PASSIONATE PERSON 1034 00:56:45,805 --> 00:56:48,608 >> Reporter: MATTHEW SAYS HE FELL HARD FOR BRENDA 1035 00:56:48,608 --> 00:56:51,745 >> SHE WAS WITH ME SEVEN DAYS A WEEK 1036 00:56:51,745 --> 00:56:54,481 THERE WERE A FEW DAYS IN A YEAR WHERE WE DID NOT SEE EACH OTHER. 1037 00:56:54,481 --> 00:56:57,183 >> Reporter: BUT OTHERWISE YOU WERE TOGETHER ALL THE TIME 1038 00:56:57,183 --> 00:56:59,853 >> YEAH. YEAH 1039 00:56:59,853 --> 00:57:02,489 SHE REALLY LIKED HANGING OUT WITH ME. 1040 00:57:02,489 --> 00:57:04,624 I'M A FUN PERSON, SO I DON'T BLAME HER. 1041 00:57:04,624 --> 00:57:07,293 >> Reporter: THE RELATIONSHIP STARTED OFF SO WELL AND THEN - 1042 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:09,429 >> RELATIONSHIP WITH BRENDA, WHAT, WAS YOU KNOW, AS ANY OTHER 1043 00:57:09,429 --> 00:57:12,098 RELATIONSHIP, IT WAS UPS AND DOWNS. 1044 00:57:12,098 --> 00:57:14,234 >> Reporter: TELL ME ABOUT THE DOWNS. 1045 00:57:14,234 --> 00:57:16,903 >> THE DOWNS WAS, UM SHE WAS A BIT JEALOUS. 1046 00:57:16,903 --> 00:57:19,572 UH, ESPECIALLY AROUND, LIKE, MAYBE WITH MY SISTER-IN-LAW, OR 1047 00:57:19,572 --> 00:57:21,708 SHE DID NOT LIKE ME BEING IN AN ELEVATOR WITH ANOTHER GIRL ALONE 1048 00:57:21,708 --> 00:57:24,944 TOO LONG >> Reporter: JUST AS WE HEARD 1049 00:57:24,944 --> 00:57:27,047 FROM THOSE AROUND JONATHAN, BRENDA'S EX SAYS HER JEALOUSY 1050 00:57:27,047 --> 00:57:33,953 WAS A CONSTANT THING >> Reporter: YOU EVER GIVE HER A 1051 00:57:33,953 --> 00:57:42,929 REASON TO FEEL SO JEALOUS? >> I WAS A GOOD-LOOKING GUY AT 1052 00:57:42,929 --> 00:57:46,566 THE TIME, YOU KNOW >> YOU'RE A GOOD-LOOKING GUY 1053 00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:51,838 NOW. >> YEAH, BUT I WAS -- ACTUALLY, 1054 00:57:51,838 --> 00:57:54,441 I WAS UGLIER THEN. I WAS -- I HAD HAIR AND I WAS 1055 00:57:54,441 --> 00:57:57,677 CHUBBIER, BUT, AT THAT TIME, UH I DIDN'T GIVE HER MUCH REASON TO 1056 00:57:57,677 --> 00:57:59,279 BE JEALOUS >> Reporter: BUT, I MEAN, DID 1057 00:57:59,279 --> 00:58:02,482 YOU CHEAT ON HER >> I NEVER CHEATED ON HER. 1058 00:58:02,482 --> 00:58:05,151 >> Reporter: SO WHAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THAT JEALOUSY? 1059 00:58:05,151 --> 00:58:08,922 >> INSECURITY. SHE'S A VERY INSECURE PERSON 1060 00:58:08,922 --> 00:58:12,092 >> Reporter: SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST LOVE THAT'S BLIND 1061 00:58:12,092 --> 00:58:15,261 SOMETIMES JEALOUSY IS TOO. MATTHEW SAID BRENDA BECAME 1062 00:58:15,261 --> 00:58:18,498 ENRAGED WHEN HE PLANNED TO VISIT HIS SISTER-IN-LAW AT THE 1063 00:58:18,498 --> 00:58:22,202 HOSPITAL AFTER SHE GAVE BIRTH. >> THE DAY THAT MY SISTER-IN-LAW 1064 00:58:22,202 --> 00:58:26,639 HAD HER BABY, SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE THERE. 1065 00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:29,609 >> Reporter: BRENDA DIDN'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE? 1066 00:58:29,609 --> 00:58:31,845 >> NO, NO, SHE REALLY, REALLY DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE THERE 1067 00:58:31,845 --> 00:58:34,047 UH, AND THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE SHE WAS CRYING, REALLY 1068 00:58:34,047 --> 00:58:36,850 UPSET. SHE BROKE A MIRROR IN THE 1069 00:58:36,850 --> 00:58:39,052 BATHROOM, USED MIRROR SHARDS TO CUT HER WRISTS. WHEN I WAS NOT 1070 00:58:39,052 --> 00:58:40,920 IN THE BATHROOM, SHE HAD THE DOOR SHUT, AND THEN SHE LEFT. 1071 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,590 AND THEN I WENT TO GO SEE MY, YOU KNOW, BABY NIECE AND - 1072 00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:47,060 >> Reporter: SHE, UH, USED THE SHARDS TO CUT HER WRIST BECAUSE 1073 00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:48,928 YOU WANTED TO GO BE WITH YOUR SISTER-IN-LAW WHEN SHE HAD HER 1074 00:58:48,928 --> 00:58:51,064 BABY >> RIGHT 1075 00:58:51,064 --> 00:58:53,700 YEAH SHE HAD A LOT OF DEMONS INSIDE 1076 00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,403 HER. >> Reporter: HE SAYS ONE FIGHT 1077 00:58:56,403 --> 00:58:59,539 WITH BRENDA WAS SO SCARY HE CALLED POLICE. 1078 00:58:59,539 --> 00:59:02,242 THAT WAS WHEN MATTHEW WAS TRYING TO END IT WITH HER 1079 00:59:02,242 --> 00:59:04,911 >> I THINK I WAS, LIKE, TRYING TO BREAK UP WITH HER AT ONE 1080 00:59:04,911 --> 00:59:07,847 POINT AND, UH, SHE GRABBED SOME SCISSORS, AND SHE SAYS, "I'M 1081 00:59:07,847 --> 00:59:10,617 GOING TO GO SEE YOUR MOM." AND I WAS LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU 1082 00:59:10,617 --> 00:59:13,453 TALKING ABOUT? SHE SAID, "I'M GOING TO" -- AND 1083 00:59:13,453 --> 00:59:17,190 SHE GOT IN HER CAR AND STARTED DRIVING TO MY MOM'S HOME 1084 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:19,325 >> Reporter: MATTHEW SAYS HE GOT INTO HIS CAR HOPING TO MAKE IT 1085 00:59:19,325 --> 00:59:21,461 TO HIS MOM'S HOUSE FIRST AND ON THE WAY CALLED POLICE 1086 00:59:21,461 --> 00:59:23,096 >> HEY, MY GIRLFRIEND IS GETTING A LITTLE UPSET, CAN Y'ALL GO 1087 00:59:23,096 --> 00:59:25,765 TAKE CARE OF THIS? AND SO, THEY GOT HER HOME AND 1088 00:59:25,765 --> 00:59:28,368 TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL >> Reporter: IF YOU HADN'T 1089 00:59:28,368 --> 00:59:30,904 INTERVENED, IF YOU HADN'T CALLED THE COPS, WHAT DO YOU THINK 1090 00:59:30,904 --> 00:59:32,639 WOULD HAVE HAPPENED? >> OH, MY MOM'S A VERY SWEET 1091 00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:35,342 LADY PROBABLY MY MOM WOULD HAVE SWEET 1092 00:59:35,342 --> 00:59:38,044 TALKED TO HER, MADE HER FEEL BETTER AND ALL THAT. 1093 00:59:38,044 --> 00:59:40,680 ALSO, MY MOM'S SECOND-DEGREE BLACK BELT IN TAEKWONDO, SO. 1094 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,350 >> Reporter: AFTER FOUR YEARS TOGETHER, MATTHEW AND BRENDA 1095 00:59:43,350 --> 00:59:46,052 BROKE UP HE SAYS HE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT 1096 00:59:46,052 --> 00:59:48,154 HER MUCH UNTIL MONTHS LATER WHEN HE GOT A CALL FROM BRENDA AND 1097 00:59:48,154 --> 00:59:50,857 SHE WANTED TO MEET UP. IT WAS THE DAY AFTER JONATHAN 1098 00:59:50,857 --> 00:59:54,594 CREWS DIED >> SHE SAID, "HEY, I NEED HELP." 1099 00:59:54,594 --> 00:59:57,797 AND I SAID, "SURE. AND SHE'S, LIKE, "WILL YOU DO 1100 00:59:57,797 --> 01:00:00,467 ANYTHING FOR ME? AND I WAS LIKE, "LIKE, WHAT'S 1101 01:00:00,467 --> 01:00:03,136 GOING ON?" >> SHE SAYS "I NEED YOU TO DO ME 1102 01:00:03,136 --> 01:00:08,475 A FAVOR. I WAS LIKE, "UM, WHAT'S THE 1103 01:00:08,475 --> 01:00:10,710 FAVOR? AND SHE SAYS, "I WANT YOU TO 1104 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:13,847 KILL ME. I WAS LIKE, "NO, I'M NOT GOING 1105 01:00:13,847 --> 01:00:16,516 TO DO THAT." AND SHE SAYS, "YOU -- OKAY, THEN 1106 01:00:16,516 --> 01:00:20,787 CAN YOU GIVE ME A GUN, I WANT TO KILL MYSELF. 1107 01:00:20,787 --> 01:00:25,525 I WAS LIKE, "NO, I'M NOT GOING GIVE YOU A GUN 1108 01:00:25,525 --> 01:00:29,796 WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S HAPPENING?" 1109 01:00:29,796 --> 01:00:35,135 AND SHE SAYS THAT, UM -- AND SHE WAS, UH, HER BOYFRIEND UH WAS -- 1110 01:00:35,135 --> 01:00:37,904 HAD A GUN AND HE PUT THE GUN UP TO HIS HEAD AND SHOT HIMSELF IN 1111 01:00:37,904 --> 01:00:39,072 THE HEAD >> Reporter: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. 1112 01:00:39,072 --> 01:00:42,108 ONE SECOND IN THE HEAD? 1113 01:00:42,108 --> 01:00:44,778 >> OH, YEAH. YEAH 1114 01:00:44,778 --> 01:00:49,049 SHE SAID THE HEAD. >> Reporter: NO QUESTION 1115 01:00:49,049 --> 01:00:52,752 SHE SAID IN THE HEAD >> RIGHT 1116 01:00:52,752 --> 01:00:57,023 >> Reporter: THAT WAS A NEW VERSION OF EVENTS. 1117 01:00:57,023 --> 01:00:59,159 THE ATTORNEYS THOUGHT MATTHEW'S STORIES WERE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO 1118 01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:01,327 INCLUDE IN THE CIVIL CASE WHICH FINALLY WENT TO TRIAL IN 1119 01:01:01,327 --> 01:01:03,463 SEPTEMBER 2022 >> ALL RISE. 1120 01:01:03,463 --> 01:01:23,583 >> Reporter: A JURY WAS ABOUT TO >> Reporter: IN THE YEARS SINCE 1121 01:01:23,583 --> 01:01:26,219 JONATHAN'S DEATH, BRENDA LAZARO HAD CREATED A NEW LIFE 1122 01:01:26,219 --> 01:01:28,888 SHE WAS MARRIED NOW WITH TWO KIDS 1123 01:01:28,888 --> 01:01:31,991 AND ACCORDING TO HER DEFENSE ATTORNEY, ANDREW JEE, SHE WAS 1124 01:01:31,991 --> 01:01:33,693 BEING TORMENTED BY A GRIEVING FAMILY THAT WOULD NEVER BE 1125 01:01:33,693 --> 01:01:36,830 SATISFIED. >> I THINK THAT THE THING THAT'S 1126 01:01:36,830 --> 01:01:39,499 IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER ABOUT -- ABOUT BRENDA IS THAT SHE'S 1127 01:01:39,499 --> 01:01:42,235 EXPERIENCED A TREMENDOUS LOSS HERE AS WELL 1128 01:01:42,235 --> 01:01:44,904 THIS WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS VERY CLOSE TO HER THAT DIED 1129 01:01:44,904 --> 01:01:47,007 TRAGICALLY IN FRONT OF HER >> Reporter: WHEN THE WRONGFUL 1130 01:01:47,007 --> 01:01:49,743 DEATH TRIAL BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER 2022, BRENDA WAS THERE IN THE 1131 01:01:49,743 --> 01:01:53,413 COURTROOM WITH HER NEW FAMILY. >> HER HUSBAND WAS THERE THE 1132 01:01:53,413 --> 01:01:56,616 ENTIRE TIME, AS WELL AS HER IN-LAWS. 1133 01:01:56,616 --> 01:02:03,056 >> Reporter: REPORTER NAHEED RAJWANI-DHARSI COVERED 1134 01:02:03,056 --> 01:02:09,429 THE TRIAL FOR THE NEWS OUTLET AXIOS. 1135 01:02:09,429 --> 01:02:14,234 >> THE START OF THE TRIAL WAS INCREDIBLY TENSE 1136 01:02:14,234 --> 01:02:19,072 YOU COULD TELL JOHN, AND PAM, AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY HAD A 1137 01:02:19,072 --> 01:02:23,309 LOT, YOU KNOW, RIDING ON THIS. AND I CAN IMAGINE IT WAS A BIG 1138 01:02:23,309 --> 01:02:25,945 DAY FOR BRENDA AS WELL, RIGHT? UM, IF SHE TRULY IS INNOCENT, 1139 01:02:25,945 --> 01:02:31,317 THIS IS A BIG WAY FOR HER TO PROVE THAT INNOCENCE 1140 01:02:31,317 --> 01:02:34,087 >> Reporter: THIS CASE THOUGH WAS IN CIVIL COURT -- WHERE 1141 01:02:34,087 --> 01:02:39,359 JURIES DON'T DECIDE GUILT OR INNOCENCE JUST BLAME LEGAL 1142 01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:42,562 LIABILITY. AND THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS LOWER 1143 01:02:42,562 --> 01:02:46,299 THAN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT HOW HARD IS IT TO PROVE A MURDER 1144 01:02:46,299 --> 01:02:49,302 IN A CIVIL CASE? >> THE BURDEN OF PROOF'S 1145 01:02:49,302 --> 01:02:52,739 DIFFERENT IN A CIVIL CASE. IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN NOT. 1146 01:02:52,739 --> 01:02:55,942 SO, JUST A LITTLE MORE LIKELY THAT SHE DID IT. 1147 01:02:55,942 --> 01:03:00,180 IN A CRIMINAL CASE, IT'S BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT WHICH THE 1148 01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:04,451 D.A. WILL TELL YOU IS -- IS A VERY HIGH BURDEN THAT THEY HAVE 1149 01:03:04,451 --> 01:03:07,120 COMPARED TO THE BURDEN THAT -- THAT THE CIVIL LAWYERS LIKE US 1150 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,857 HAVE >> THIS IS A BIG DEAL. 1151 01:03:10,857 --> 01:03:14,594 THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CASE. >> Reporter: IF JURORS FOUND 1152 01:03:14,594 --> 01:03:18,865 BRENDA RESPONSIBLE TOM SHAW ASKED THEM TO AWARD THE FAMILY 1153 01:03:18,865 --> 01:03:22,836 MORE THAN $90 MILLION. THE CREWS FAMILY KNEW BRENDA DID 1154 01:03:22,836 --> 01:03:24,738 NOT HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY -- AND THEY 1155 01:03:24,738 --> 01:03:30,076 DIDN'T CARE. THIS WAS ABOUT ANSWERS, AND IN 1156 01:03:30,076 --> 01:03:34,381 CIVIL COURT, MONEY IS THE CLOSEST YOU GET TO JUSTICE 1157 01:03:34,381 --> 01:03:37,550 >> AFTER YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO 1158 01:03:37,550 --> 01:03:42,889 WHAT NO CRIMINAL JURY EVER HAD A CHANCE TO DO -- TO BRING JUSTICE 1159 01:03:42,889 --> 01:03:46,626 TO JONATHAN'S LIFE TO BRING JUSTICE TO THOSE FROM 1160 01:03:46,626 --> 01:03:49,095 WHOM HE WAS TAKEN >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S FAMILY DESCRIBED TO 1161 01:03:49,095 --> 01:03:52,532 THE JURY WHAT THEY'D LOST WHEN JONATHAN DIED. 1162 01:03:52,532 --> 01:03:55,168 >> HE WANTED TO GET MARRIED SOME DAY. 1163 01:03:55,168 --> 01:03:58,905 HE WANTED TO HAVE GRANDKIDS. AND WE WERE CERTAINLY LOOKING 1164 01:03:58,905 --> 01:04:00,240 FORWARD TO THAT. >> CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR THE JURY 1165 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,379 WHAT THE LAST EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS HAS BEEN LIKE? 1166 01:04:06,379 --> 01:04:09,582 >> IT'S LIKE A HUGE PART OF MY HEART, JUST THREW IT AWAY. 1167 01:04:09,582 --> 01:04:11,718 >> Reporter: SHAW AND HIS SON SET OUT TO SHOW THE JURY ALL THE 1168 01:04:11,718 --> 01:04:18,591 REASONS THEY BELIEVED JONATHAN COULD NOT HAVE DIED BY HIS OWN 1169 01:04:18,591 --> 01:04:19,693 HAND FIRST, AND FOREMOST, WAS THEIR 1170 01:04:19,693 --> 01:04:23,430 ANALYSIS OF THE BULLET TRAJECTORY AS IT TRAVELED 1171 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:26,132 THROUGH JONATHAN'S BODY. TO THEM IT MEANT JONATHAN WOULD 1172 01:04:26,132 --> 01:04:30,770 HAVE HAD TO REACH AT AN ODD ANGLE TO SHOOT HIMSELF 1173 01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:34,674 >> HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A CONTORTIONIST IN ORDER 1174 01:04:34,674 --> 01:04:38,945 TO -- TO TAKE THAT SHOT AND TO PULL THE TRIGGER 1175 01:04:38,945 --> 01:04:43,149 BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR WEAPON, THE SIG SAUER, HAS A REAL -- A 1176 01:04:43,149 --> 01:04:45,352 REAL HARD PULL ON THE TRIGGER. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE MOST 1177 01:04:45,352 --> 01:04:49,656 COMPELLING EVIDENCE IN THE CASE, WAS -- WAS THAT. 1178 01:04:49,656 --> 01:04:52,826 >> NOT SPATTER NO. >> Reporter: AND THE PLAINTIFF'S 1179 01:04:52,826 --> 01:04:57,130 EXPERT WITNESS SAID IT WAS ALL THE MORE UNLIKELY BECAUSE 1180 01:04:57,130 --> 01:04:59,532 JONATHAN HAD A SHOULDER INJURY THIS FORMER HOUSTON POLICE 1181 01:04:59,532 --> 01:05:04,604 DETECTIVE TESTIFIED ABOUT JONATHAN VISITING A DOCTOR IN 1182 01:05:04,604 --> 01:05:08,341 THE DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH. >> MY EXPERT OPINION, 1183 01:05:08,341 --> 01:05:12,612 JONATHAN CREWS COULD NOT CONTORT HIS SHOULDER ACROSS HIS BODY IN 1184 01:05:12,612 --> 01:05:17,517 THAT SUCH MANNER IN ORDER TO MANEUVER THE WEAPON IN ORDER TO 1185 01:05:17,517 --> 01:05:21,688 MAKE THE SHOT INTO HIS OWN CHEST WITHOUT PUSHING THROUGH A 1186 01:05:21,688 --> 01:05:27,560 BIZARRE AMOUNT OF PAIN WHEN HE COULD HAVE JUST STOOD UP, PUT 1187 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,365 THE WEAPON TO HIS HEAD, IN HIS MOUTH, UNDER HIS CHIN, OR 1188 01:05:32,365 --> 01:05:35,602 SQUARELY INTO HIS HEART. >> Reporter: THE FAMILY'S 1189 01:05:35,602 --> 01:05:39,873 ATTORNEYS TOLD THE JURY ABOUT THOSE GUNSHOT RESIDUE TESTS -- 1190 01:05:39,873 --> 01:05:44,144 SHOWING BRENDA HAD GSR ON HER SWEATSHIRT AND BOTH HER HANDS. 1191 01:05:44,144 --> 01:05:46,346 AND THEY ARGUED THAT WHILE JONATHAN HAD NO MOTIVE TO KILL 1192 01:05:46,346 --> 01:05:48,948 HIMSELF, BRENDA DID HAVE A MOTIVE 1193 01:05:48,948 --> 01:05:52,152 JONATHAN WAS ABOUT TO BREAK UP WITH HER 1194 01:05:52,152 --> 01:05:56,423 EMILY TESTIFIED TO HOW ANGRY BRENDA HAD BEEN ON THE DAY OF 1195 01:05:56,423 --> 01:05:58,591 JONATHAN'S DEATH >> I SPOKE TO HER ON THE PHONE 1196 01:05:58,591 --> 01:06:01,227 ON THE DAY HE WAS KILLED >> Reporter: THE ATTORNEYS 1197 01:06:01,227 --> 01:06:04,464 PLAYED THE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MATTHEW KIRK. 1198 01:06:04,464 --> 01:06:09,269 HE RECOUNTED THOSE STORIES ABOUT HOW BRENDA'S JEALOUS STREAK 1199 01:06:09,269 --> 01:06:13,039 SOMETIMES VERGED ON VIOLENCE >> SHE JUST HELD SOME SCISSORS 1200 01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:14,574 IN HER HAND, SAY, "I'M GOING TO GO SEE YOUR MOM. 1201 01:06:14,574 --> 01:06:18,845 I'M TRYING TO FORGET THAT GIRL SHE ALMOST RUINED MY LIFE. 1202 01:06:18,845 --> 01:06:20,547 >> Reporter: ATTORNEYS FOR THE CREWS FAMILY SAID BRENDA TOLD 1203 01:06:20,547 --> 01:06:22,615 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE SHOOTING STORY TO DIFFERENT 1204 01:06:22,615 --> 01:06:25,885 PEOPLE IN SOME SHE WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN 1205 01:06:25,885 --> 01:06:29,055 THE GUN WENT OFF IN OTHERS SHE SAID SHE WAS IN A 1206 01:06:29,055 --> 01:06:31,658 DIFFERENT ROOM DANI TESTIFIED TO WHAT BRENDA 1207 01:06:31,658 --> 01:06:34,361 TOLD HER >> SHE WAS IN THE DOORWAY FACING 1208 01:06:34,361 --> 01:06:35,962 HIM. THEY WERE JUST HAVING A 1209 01:06:35,962 --> 01:06:40,233 CONVERSATION >> Reporter: THE ATTORNEYS 1210 01:06:40,233 --> 01:06:44,471 DEPOSED SEVERAL OF BRENDA'S MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL FRIENDS, WHO 1211 01:06:44,471 --> 01:06:46,639 ALSO HEARD CONFLICTING ACCOUNTS. THAT SHE WENT TO THE BATHROOM, 1212 01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:50,076 AND WHEN SHE CAME OUT HE WAS ALREADY SHOT 1213 01:06:50,076 --> 01:06:53,079 WELL SHE SAID HE SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD 1214 01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:56,216 IS IT POSSIBLE, DO YOU THINK, THAT THAT'S THE STRESS, THE 1215 01:06:56,216 --> 01:06:58,885 MISERY OF THAT MOMENT OF BEING PRESENT WHEN SOMEBODY YOU LOVE 1216 01:06:58,885 --> 01:07:07,093 KILLS THEMSELVES? THAT MAYBE DISTORTED HER MEMORY OR MADE IT 1217 01:07:07,093 --> 01:07:10,630 HARDER FOR HER TO THINK CLEARLY? >> I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU'RE 1218 01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:16,036 PART OF A TRAUMATIC MOMENT YOU DON'T FORGET THE SMELL OF THE 1219 01:07:16,036 --> 01:07:20,240 ENVIRONMENT. THOSE THINGS NEVER LEAVE YOU 1220 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,043 IS BRENDA SOMEBODY WHO IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE OF THAT 1221 01:07:23,043 --> 01:07:26,680 TRAUMATIC MOMENT AND DOESN'T REMEMBER IT? 1222 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,849 I DON'T KNOW BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T 1223 01:07:29,849 --> 01:07:34,354 TELL DIFFERENT STORIES TO FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE 1224 01:07:34,354 --> 01:07:37,891 >> Reporter: SO IF JONATHAN DIDN'T SHOOT HIMSELF, THEN WHAT 1225 01:07:37,891 --> 01:07:40,060 DID HAPPEN IN COURT, THE FAMILY ATTORNEYS 1226 01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:43,229 PRESENTED THEIR STORY OF THAT NIGHT. 1227 01:07:43,229 --> 01:07:47,067 THEY BELIEVE JONATHAN WENT TO BED, AND WHILE HE WAS SLEEPING, 1228 01:07:47,067 --> 01:07:52,339 BRENDA USED HIS PHONE TO SEND THAT, "I WANT TO DIE," TEXT 1229 01:07:52,339 --> 01:07:55,809 MESSAGE TO EMILY >> SHE WAS SO OBSESSED WITH 1230 01:07:55,809 --> 01:08:06,753 EMILY. WHO DID SHE SEND THAT TEXT TO? 1231 01:08:06,753 --> 01:08:10,023 THAT LAST TEXT IT WENT TO EMILY, BECAUSE SHE 1232 01:08:10,023 --> 01:08:15,829 WAS SAYING TO EMILY, "IF I CAN'T HAVE HIM, YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM." 1233 01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:18,064 >> Reporter: TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THEY THINK HAPPENED NEXT, THE 1234 01:08:18,064 --> 01:08:21,668 FAMILY'S LAWYERS SHOWED THE JURY AN ANIMATION 1235 01:08:21,668 --> 01:08:25,438 IT WAS CREATED BY SHEILA, AND HER TEAM, BASED ON THEIR 1236 01:08:25,438 --> 01:08:30,844 ANALYSIS OF THE BULLET TRAJECTORY AND ON POLICE REPORTS 1237 01:08:30,844 --> 01:08:34,481 ABOUT THE EVIDENCE AT THE SCENE. IT DEPICTS BRENDA APPROACHING 1238 01:08:34,481 --> 01:08:39,285 JONATHAN WHILE HE LIES IN BED, AND THEN SHOOTING HIM AS HE 1239 01:08:39,285 --> 01:08:42,489 WAKES UP >> THE ANIMATION MATCHES ALL THE 1240 01:08:42,489 --> 01:08:46,226 EVIDENCE THAT WE SHOWED IN TRIAL. 1241 01:08:46,226 --> 01:08:51,064 AND THAT ONE WE DID, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR A JURY TO 1242 01:08:51,064 --> 01:08:55,769 VISUALLY SEE WHAT HAPPENED >> Reporter: SO MANY ACCUSATIONS 1243 01:08:55,769 --> 01:08:59,072 AGAINST HER. SO WHAT WOULD BRENDA LAZARO HAVE 1244 01:08:59,072 --> 01:09:01,307 TO SAY >> AND ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOUR 1245 01:09:01,307 --> 01:09:05,412 MOTIVE FOR SHOOTING JONATHAN IS THE OLDEST MOTIVE IN THE BOOK? 1246 01:09:05,412 --> 01:09:08,281 JEALOUSY >> COMING UP THIS SUNDAY ON 1247 01:09:08,281 --> 01:09:11,251 "DATELINE" - >> PLEASE, PLEASE LET HER COME 1248 01:09:11,251 --> 01:09:13,420 HOME TO US >> IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE SHE 1249 01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:19,292 VANISHED MOM-TO-BE, LACI PETERSON 1250 01:09:19,292 --> 01:09:26,199 NOW, A NEW TURN IN THE CASE. HER HUSBAND, SCOTT, FIGHTS FOR A 1251 01:09:26,199 --> 01:09:29,936 NEW TRIAL! >> Reporter: DID SCOTT PETERSON 1252 01:09:29,936 --> 01:09:31,071 KILL HIS WIFE? >> I DON'T BELIEVE HE DID >> 1253 01:09:31,071 --> 01:09:54,327 Reporter: I MEAN, REALLY * (MÚSICA) *LD HAVE DONE IT? 1254 01:09:54,327 --> 01:09:57,163 WERE INVESTIGATING >> Reporter: BRENDA LAZARO SAT 1255 01:09:57,163 --> 01:09:58,765 AND LISTENED TO EVERY WITNESS. >> HE'S NOT GOING TO THEN KILL 1256 01:09:58,765 --> 01:10:00,367 HIMSELF. EVIDENCE WILL SHOW THAT JONATHAN 1257 01:10:00,367 --> 01:10:02,602 CREWS WAS THE VICTIM OF A HOMICIDE 1258 01:10:02,602 --> 01:10:04,637 >> Reporter: EVERY BIT OF TESTIMONY THAT THE CREWS FAMILY 1259 01:10:04,637 --> 01:10:07,273 LAWYERS USED - >> THOUGHT SHE WAS KIND OF ODD 1260 01:10:07,273 --> 01:10:09,976 OR A LITTLE BIT STRANGE. >> Reporter: -- TO BLAME HER FOR 1261 01:10:09,976 --> 01:10:13,213 JONATHAN'S DEATH >> HER HUSBAND WAS BY HER SIDE 1262 01:10:13,213 --> 01:10:16,416 THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN, IF 1263 01:10:16,416 --> 01:10:19,052 THERE WAS A DIFFICULT DAY IN TRIAL, THEY EMBRACED EACH OTHER 1264 01:10:19,052 --> 01:10:22,389 FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME YOU COULD SEE THAT SHE NEEDED 1265 01:10:22,389 --> 01:10:25,558 SUPPORT, AND SHE TURNED TO HER HUSBAND OR HER IN-LAWS FOR THAT. 1266 01:10:25,558 --> 01:10:27,627 >> Reporter: HER ATTORNEY ANDREW JEE SPOKE FOR HER 1267 01:10:27,627 --> 01:10:31,131 GIVE ME A LITTLE THUMBNAIL OF BRENDA LAZARO. 1268 01:10:31,131 --> 01:10:33,500 WHO IS SHE >> BRENDA IS A IS A MOTHER OF 1269 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:36,336 TWO CHILDREN SHE'S A GREAT MOM AND A GREAT 1270 01:10:36,336 --> 01:10:38,838 WIFE AND SHE'S REALLY, UH, JUST GOT 1271 01:10:38,838 --> 01:10:43,109 CAUGHT UP IN SOME REALLY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. 1272 01:10:43,109 --> 01:10:46,346 >> Reporter: IN COURT, HE ATTACKED THE PLAINTIFF'S CASE 1273 01:10:46,346 --> 01:10:48,982 PIECE BY PIECE >> WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE 1274 01:10:48,982 --> 01:10:52,218 FAMILY CLEARLY TRAUMATIC. 1275 01:10:52,218 --> 01:10:54,888 BUT THAT DOESN'T PROVE THE ALLEGATION 1276 01:10:54,888 --> 01:10:59,693 THAT DOESN'T PROVE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS TRUE 1277 01:10:59,693 --> 01:11:03,430 >> Reporter: FIRST, THE NOTION THAT BRENDA TOLD DIFFERENT 1278 01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:07,667 VERSIONS OF THE STORY TO DIFFERENT FRIENDS. 1279 01:11:07,667 --> 01:11:10,337 HER ATTORNEY SAID IT WAS THE FRIENDS' MEMORIES THAT WERE 1280 01:11:10,337 --> 01:11:12,639 WRONG, NOT BRENDA'S STORIES. >> HAS ANYBODY EVER TOLD 1281 01:11:12,639 --> 01:11:14,607 SOMEBODY SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND REPEATED THAT TO MULTIPLE 1282 01:11:14,607 --> 01:11:17,811 PEOPLE ARE THEY ALL GOING TO SAY THE 1283 01:11:17,811 --> 01:11:21,581 SAME THING THAT YOU SAID EXACTLY? 1284 01:11:21,581 --> 01:11:25,318 PROBABLY NOT WHAT ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER 1285 01:11:25,318 --> 01:11:28,455 PROBABLY LESS LIKELY >> Reporter: AND THERE WERE 1286 01:11:28,455 --> 01:11:31,691 OTHER PARTS OF THOSE DEPOSITIONS IN WHICH HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY 1287 01:11:31,691 --> 01:11:35,562 SAID LOVELY THINGS ABOUT BRENDA. >> HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE 1288 01:11:35,562 --> 01:11:39,165 BRENDA >> SOMEBODY I TRUST. 1289 01:11:39,165 --> 01:11:41,267 SOMEBODY I CAN COUNT ON. >> SHE WAS ALWAYS A GOOD -- 1290 01:11:41,267 --> 01:11:43,937 GREAT PERSON YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO 1291 01:11:43,937 --> 01:11:48,341 HER AS AN OLDER SISTER AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS VERY KIND 1292 01:11:48,341 --> 01:11:50,343 AND RESPECTFUL >> IS SHE A JEALOUS TYPE 1293 01:11:50,343 --> 01:11:53,546 >> NO. >> NOT AT ALL? 1294 01:11:53,546 --> 01:11:56,216 >> NO. >> Reporter: BRENDA'S EX, 1295 01:11:56,216 --> 01:11:58,885 MATTHEW KIRK, HAD ALL THOSE CRAZY STORIES TO SHARE, BUT NOT 1296 01:11:58,885 --> 01:12:01,888 EVEN HE DESCRIBED BRENDA AS A KILLER 1297 01:12:01,888 --> 01:12:04,791 >> WOULD YOU CONSIDER HER TO BE CAPABLE OF THAT? 1298 01:12:04,791 --> 01:12:08,061 >> UH, I DON'T KNOW. >> Reporter: IS IT CONCEIVABLE 1299 01:12:08,061 --> 01:12:10,063 TO YOU THAT BRENDA WAS SO ANGRY AT JONATHAN FOR BREAKING UP WITH 1300 01:12:10,063 --> 01:12:12,799 HER THAT SHE LOST HER TEMPER, LOST HER GRIP, GRABBED THE GUN, 1301 01:12:12,799 --> 01:12:16,069 AND SHOT HIM >> NO. 1302 01:12:16,069 --> 01:12:18,705 BECAUSE WE BROKE UP PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES IN THAT 1303 01:12:18,705 --> 01:12:22,142 RELATIONSHIP, AND SHE NEVER TRIED TO KILL ME 1304 01:12:22,142 --> 01:12:24,077 >> Reporter: DID YOU HAVE A GUN IN THE HOUSE 1305 01:12:24,077 --> 01:12:27,547 >> YEAH. AND SHE NEVER TRIED TO GRAB A 1306 01:12:27,547 --> 01:12:29,883 GUN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I NEVER EVEN SEE HER EVEN, LIKE, 1307 01:12:29,883 --> 01:12:33,620 TRY DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO - >> Reporter: HER EX-BOYFRIEND 1308 01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:37,357 MATT DEFINITELY DESCRIBES BRENDA AS BEING CONTROLLING, JEALOUS, 1309 01:12:37,357 --> 01:12:40,760 KIND OF OBSESSIVE. BUT EVEN HE SAYS HE DIDN'T THINK 1310 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,196 BRENDA WOULD KILL ANYBODY. >> YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HOPES 1311 01:12:43,196 --> 01:12:46,399 THEY DON'T KNOW SOMEONE WHO COULD PULL A TRIGGER AND SHOOT 1312 01:12:46,399 --> 01:12:49,102 SOMEONE. YOU -- IT MAY BE HOPEFULNESS 1313 01:12:49,102 --> 01:12:52,505 >> Reporter: BRENDA'S ATTORNEY SAYS JONATHAN COULD HAVE SHOT 1314 01:12:52,505 --> 01:12:57,110 HIMSELF AT THAT ANGLE EVEN WITH A SHOULDER INJURY. 1315 01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:59,779 IT WASN'T THAT BIG OF A DEAL >> HE MOVED HIS APARTMENT THE 1316 01:12:59,779 --> 01:13:03,516 WEEK PRIOR OR SO WITH THAT SAME INJURY, APPARENTLY, WITH NO 1317 01:13:03,516 --> 01:13:07,387 PROBLEMS >> Reporter: JEE ALSO MENTIONED 1318 01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:09,923 AN INCIDENT FROM WHEN JONATHAN WAS IN COLLEGE 1319 01:13:09,923 --> 01:13:12,625 HE FIRED A GUN RECKLESSLY AFTER DRINKING, SUGGESTING HE WASN'T 1320 01:13:12,625 --> 01:13:15,295 ALWAYS CAREFUL AROUND FIREARMS AND THE ATTORNEY SAID THERE WAS 1321 01:13:15,295 --> 01:13:19,566 NO MOTIVE FOR BRENDA TO SHOOT JONATHAN 1322 01:13:19,566 --> 01:13:23,870 IT'S NOT EVEN CLEAR HE WAS REALLY BREAKING UP WITH HER. 1323 01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:27,073 >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK UP WITH SOMEONE, YOU DON'T ORDER 1324 01:13:27,073 --> 01:13:29,809 DINNER FOR 2 AT 8:00 AT NIGHT AND HAVE HIM SPEND THE NIGHT 1325 01:13:29,809 --> 01:13:32,379 THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 1326 01:13:32,379 --> 01:13:34,447 >> Reporter: SO YOU DON'T THINK JONATHAN WANTED TO BREAK UP WITH 1327 01:13:34,447 --> 01:13:36,683 HER? OR YOU JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S 1328 01:13:36,683 --> 01:13:40,253 ENOUGH EVIDENCE THERE OF THAT? >> I THINK THAT'S TOTAL 1329 01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:42,522 SPECULATION. >> Reporter: AND HER ATTORNEY 1330 01:13:42,522 --> 01:13:45,725 SAYS THERE WAS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT BRENDA WAS THE ONE WHO SENT 1331 01:13:45,725 --> 01:13:48,395 THAT TEXT MESSAGE TO EMILY >> I THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT HE 1332 01:13:48,395 --> 01:13:51,965 SENT IT BECAUSE IT WAS FROM AN IPHONE THAT WAS LOCKED AND IT 1333 01:13:51,965 --> 01:13:55,268 NEEDED A PASSCODE. >> Reporter: AND ACCORDING TO 1334 01:13:55,268 --> 01:13:58,438 EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS JONATHAN, HE GAVE HER HIS PASSCODES 1335 01:13:58,438 --> 01:14:02,709 >> AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTE SPECULATION. 1336 01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:06,479 THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT BRENDA SENT THAT TEXT 1337 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,750 >> Reporter: AS FOR BRENDA WAITING TO CALL 911, HE SAID THE 1338 01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:12,886 NEIGHBOR'S MEMORY WAS UNRELIABLE 1339 01:14:12,886 --> 01:14:15,555 SHE'D BEEN IN BED WHEN SHE HEARD THE GUNSHOT. 1340 01:14:15,555 --> 01:14:18,224 >> SO I JUST LAY BACK DOWN - >> Reporter: AND THERE WAS THIS. 1341 01:14:18,224 --> 01:14:21,961 >> IF YOU LISTEN TO THAT 911 CALL AND YOU LISTEN 1342 01:14:21,961 --> 01:14:24,130 CAREFULLY, YOU CAN HEAR JONATHAN CREWS MOANING ON THAT TAPE 1343 01:14:24,130 --> 01:14:26,766 SO HE WAS ALIVE DURING THAT 911 CALL 1344 01:14:26,766 --> 01:14:30,070 >> Reporter: HERE'S THE MOMENT BRENDA'S ATTORNEY IS TALKING 1345 01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:32,639 ABOUT. >> WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE 1346 01:14:32,639 --> 01:14:34,774 APARTMENT? >> I DON'T KNOW. 1347 01:14:34,774 --> 01:14:37,444 I DON'T KNOW PLEASE, PLEASE, SEND SOMEONE 1348 01:14:37,444 --> 01:14:40,647 QUICK. >> Reporter: WHAT THE CREWS 1349 01:14:40,647 --> 01:14:42,782 FAMILY REALLY WANTED TO HEAR WAS WHAT BRENDA HAD TO SAY 1350 01:14:42,782 --> 01:14:45,952 THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY CALLED HER TO THE STAND 1351 01:14:45,952 --> 01:14:48,121 >> MS. LAZARO, ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU SHOT PAM'S SON, 1352 01:14:48,121 --> 01:14:50,790 JONATHAN CREWS >> I RESPECTFULLY INVOKE MY 1353 01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:53,993 PRIVILEGE AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION 1354 01:14:53,993 --> 01:14:58,264 >> Reporter: SHE TOOK THE FIFTH AGAIN AND AGAIN. 1355 01:14:58,264 --> 01:15:03,069 THAT DIDN'T STOP THE CREWS FAMILY ATTORNEY FROM ASKING HER 1356 01:15:03,069 --> 01:15:06,306 QUESTION AFTER QUESTION. >> AND ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOUR 1357 01:15:06,306 --> 01:15:10,043 MOTIVE FOR SHOOTING JONATHAN IS THE OLDEST MOTIVE IN THE BOOK -- 1358 01:15:10,043 --> 01:15:13,213 JEALOUSY >> I RESPECTFULLY INVOKE MY 1359 01:15:13,213 --> 01:15:17,517 PRIVILEGE AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION 1360 01:15:17,517 --> 01:15:21,254 >> Reporter: HOW MANY TIMES DID BRENDA SAY I TAKE THE FIFTH? 1361 01:15:21,254 --> 01:15:24,457 >> ABOUT 130, 140 TIMES. >> Reporter: BRENDA'S ATTORNEY 1362 01:15:24,457 --> 01:15:28,194 SAYS IT IS UNFAIR TO READ ANYTHING INTO THAT 1363 01:15:28,194 --> 01:15:30,864 >> ALL LAWYERS WILL TELL A CLIENT THAT IS SUBJECT TO 1364 01:15:30,864 --> 01:15:34,067 CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, ESPECIALLY A MURDER IN A STATE THAT CARRIES 1365 01:15:34,067 --> 01:15:37,837 A DEATH PENALTY, TO TAKE THE FIFTH. 1366 01:15:37,837 --> 01:15:42,108 IT WOULD BE LEGAL MALPRACTICE TO ADVISE SOMEONE TO DO ANYTHING 1367 01:15:42,108 --> 01:15:45,311 DIFFERENT. >> Reporter: BRENDA MAY HAVE 1368 01:15:45,311 --> 01:15:47,947 SAID LITTLE ON THE STAND BUT HER ATTORNEY SAID THE FACTS 1369 01:15:47,947 --> 01:15:51,685 OF THE CASE SPOKE FOR HER. DESPITE THEIR SUSPICIONS, POLICE 1370 01:15:51,685 --> 01:15:55,455 NEVER ARRESTED BRENDA AND THE M.E. NEVER RULED JONATHAN'S 1371 01:15:55,455 --> 01:15:59,192 DEATH A HOMICIDE >> YOU ALSO WON'T SEE ANY 1372 01:15:59,192 --> 01:16:04,030 EVIDENCE THAT BRENDA WAS EVER ARRESTED, CHARGED, PROSECUTED, 1373 01:16:04,030 --> 01:16:06,666 OR CONVICTED I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU'LL SEE ANY 1374 01:16:06,666 --> 01:16:11,171 EVIDENCE THAT INDICATES THERE'S AN ONGOING POLICE INVESTIGATION. 1375 01:16:11,171 --> 01:16:13,073 >> Reporter: IN THE END, HER ATTORNEY ECHOED ONE OF THE 1376 01:16:13,073 --> 01:16:16,810 THEORIES THAT HAD FLOATED AROUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT -- THAT 1377 01:16:16,810 --> 01:16:20,046 JONATHAN DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A BULLET IN THE CHAMBER AND THIS 1378 01:16:20,046 --> 01:16:23,216 WAS ALL A TRAGIC MISTAKE >> I BELIEVE THIS WAS AN 1379 01:16:23,216 --> 01:16:26,419 ACCIDENT >> Reporter: THE CASE WENT TO 1380 01:16:26,419 --> 01:16:29,656 THE JURY WHAT WOULD THE ANSWER BE 1381 01:16:29,656 --> 01:16:29,923 WHAT WOULD THE ANSWER BE >> ALL RISE. 1382 01:16:52,779 --> 01:16:55,615 AFTER LESS THAN THREE HOURS OF DELIBERATION, THE JURY HAD A 1383 01:16:55,615 --> 01:16:58,585 VERDICT. AS THEY WAITED TO HEAR IT, 1384 01:16:58,585 --> 01:17:03,857 JONATHAN'S PARENTS AND SIBLINGS HUGGED EACH OTHER TIGHTLY. 1385 01:17:03,857 --> 01:17:06,626 >> ALL RISE. >> IT WAS A REALLY SURREAL 1386 01:17:06,626 --> 01:17:10,597 MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S THE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR FOR 1387 01:17:10,597 --> 01:17:14,601 SO LONG. >> A VERDICT HAS BEEN DELIVERED. 1388 01:17:14,601 --> 01:17:17,303 IT IS A UNANIMOUS VERDICT. >> Reporter: THE JURY FOUND 1389 01:17:17,303 --> 01:17:20,507 BRENDA LAZARO RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING AND KILLING 1390 01:17:20,507 --> 01:17:24,711 JONATHAN CREWS >> JOHN, IT'S $8 MILLION 1391 01:17:24,711 --> 01:17:25,879 PAM IS $16 MILLION >> Reporter: THEN THE JUDGE 1392 01:17:25,879 --> 01:17:31,151 RATTLED OFF SOME STAGGERING NUMBERS. 1393 01:17:31,151 --> 01:17:39,793 THE JURY'S CALCULATION OF WHAT BRENDA OWED THE FAMILY 1394 01:17:39,793 --> 01:17:42,362 >> JOHN, IT'S $24 MILLION. PAM, IT'S $48 MILLION. 1395 01:17:42,362 --> 01:17:45,065 FOR THEIR SUFFERING. AND FOR THEIR SON'S LIFE 1396 01:17:45,065 --> 01:17:47,100 >> Reporter: THEY COME BACK WITH AN AWARD OF $206 MILLION 1397 01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,836 >> YES >> Reporter: WHICH IS MONEY THAT 1398 01:17:49,836 --> 01:17:51,905 BRENDA LAZARO DOESN'T HAVE AND IS NEVER GOING TO HAVE 1399 01:17:51,905 --> 01:17:54,107 >> NO, AND THAT -- >> Reporter: BUT THAT'S A 1400 01:17:54,107 --> 01:17:56,242 VICTORY. >> IT'S -- IT'S AN INCREDIBLE 1401 01:17:56,242 --> 01:17:57,811 VICTORY BECAUSE THE PARENTS WERE TOLD, FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT 1402 01:17:57,811 --> 01:18:06,019 THEIR SON DIDN'T TAKE HIS OWN LIFE 1403 01:18:06,019 --> 01:18:08,521 >> I UNDERESTIMATED HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS TO MY 1404 01:18:08,521 --> 01:18:11,191 DAUGHTER, TO JONATHAN'S FRIENDS, EVEN TO MY WIFE. 1405 01:18:11,191 --> 01:18:13,326 >> Reporter: EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL 1406 01:18:13,326 --> 01:18:15,462 >> EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL 1407 01:18:15,462 --> 01:18:17,063 >> THE THING I REALLY WANTED WAS FOR JONATHAN TO BE VINDICATED, 1408 01:18:17,063 --> 01:18:18,665 YOU KNOW HE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR 1409 01:18:18,665 --> 01:18:20,934 HIMSELF. HE DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF 1410 01:18:20,934 --> 01:18:22,936 >> WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT SHE -- SHE KILLED HIM. 1411 01:18:22,936 --> 01:18:25,038 >> Reporter: WE SPOKE WITH JURY FOREMAN EDDIE BROWN. 1412 01:18:25,038 --> 01:18:27,340 HE TOLD US JURORS PRETTY MUCH AGREED BRENDA WAS THE SHOOTER 1413 01:18:27,340 --> 01:18:30,944 BEFORE THEY EVEN TOOK THEIR FIRST VOTE 1414 01:18:30,944 --> 01:18:33,613 >> THE BIGGEST THING THAT LED US TO OUR DECISION WAS THE 1415 01:18:33,613 --> 01:18:38,918 TRAJECTORY OF THE BULLET EVERY ONE OF US IN THE JURY 1416 01:18:38,918 --> 01:18:42,689 ATTEMPTED TO RECREATE THE ANGLE OF WHAT THE BULLET WOULD HAVE 1417 01:18:42,689 --> 01:18:45,325 WENT THROUGH, WHERE HE HAD TO AN ACCIDENT ON HIS PART OR NOT 1418 01:18:45,325 --> 01:18:49,095 IT SEEMED EXTREMELY UNLIKELY WE -- WE COULDN'T RECREATE IT. 1419 01:18:49,095 --> 01:18:52,832 >> Reporter: AND AS FOR THAT LOWER STANDARD OF PROOF IN A 1420 01:18:52,832 --> 01:18:56,569 CIVIL TRIAL, THE FOREMAN TOLD US MANY JURORS THOUGHT THE EVIDENCE 1421 01:18:56,569 --> 01:19:00,607 WAS SO STRONG AGAINST BRENDA, THEY BELIEVED SHE WAS 1422 01:19:00,607 --> 01:19:04,044 RESPONSIBLE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. 1423 01:19:04,044 --> 01:19:06,713 COULD YOU HAVE VOTED TO LOCK UP BRENDA INSTEAD OF A FINANCIAL 1424 01:19:06,713 --> 01:19:09,349 AWARD? >> YES 1425 01:19:09,349 --> 01:19:11,484 >> Reporter: YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? 1426 01:19:11,484 --> 01:19:13,219 >> NO, NOT AT ALL. >> Reporter: DID ANYONE WONDER 1427 01:19:13,219 --> 01:19:15,321 WHY THIS WAS IN CIVIL COURT AND NOT CRIMINAL COURT 1428 01:19:15,321 --> 01:19:18,458 >> YES WE WERE KIND OF CURIOUS WHY THE 1429 01:19:18,458 --> 01:19:22,195 D.A. WASN'T MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CRIMINAL CASE. 1430 01:19:22,195 --> 01:19:25,932 >> Reporter: JONATHAN'S PARENTS HOPED A WIN IN CIVIL COURT MIGHT 1431 01:19:25,932 --> 01:19:30,437 LEAD TO CRIMINAL CHARGES THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. 1432 01:19:30,437 --> 01:19:33,940 FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE CIVIL VERDICT, THE DALLAS DISTRICT 1433 01:19:33,940 --> 01:19:35,508 ATTORNEY INVITED THEM TO A MEETING AND SAID THERE WAS 1434 01:19:35,508 --> 01:19:40,246 INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO PROCEED. 1435 01:19:40,246 --> 01:19:42,515 >> THEY MADE A PRESENTATION THAT SUGGESTED THAT THE VIDEO THAT WE 1436 01:19:42,515 --> 01:19:48,388 HAD MADE WAS -- WAS INCORRECT AND THAT WE MISREPRESENTED THE 1437 01:19:48,388 --> 01:19:51,458 FACTS TO THE JURY. >> Reporter: WE ASKED THE D.A.'S 1438 01:19:51,458 --> 01:19:53,727 OFFICE WHAT FACTS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. 1439 01:19:53,727 --> 01:19:56,963 THEY SAID, UNLIKE WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE ANIMATION, THEY COULDN'T 1440 01:19:56,963 --> 01:20:00,667 DRAW A RELIABLE CONCLUSION ABOUT THE BULLET TRAJECTORY BASED ON 1441 01:20:00,667 --> 01:20:03,903 THE EVIDENCE. THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN POLICE WENT 1442 01:20:03,903 --> 01:20:07,240 LOOKING FOR WHERE THE BULLET ENDED UP, THEY TOOK APART 1443 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,743 JONATHAN'S BED, AND THE D.A. THINKS THE BULLET COULD HAVE 1444 01:20:09,743 --> 01:20:15,081 ROLLED AROUND IN THE PROCESS WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ELSE 1445 01:20:15,081 --> 01:20:17,784 POLICE DID OR DIDN'T DO. THEY DECLINED TO ANSWER OUR 1446 01:20:17,784 --> 01:20:20,987 QUESTIONS. SO WE REQUESTED THEIR CASE FILE 1447 01:20:20,987 --> 01:20:27,394 AND OBTAINED SOME RECORDS THAT NEITHER SIDE IN THE CIVIL TRIAL 1448 01:20:27,394 --> 01:20:31,698 EVER SAW FIRST, WHAT'S MISSING? 1449 01:20:31,698 --> 01:20:34,300 THERE'S NO PHOTO OF THE GUN NEAR JONATHAN'S BODY. 1450 01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:39,673 >> YOU SEE THE GUN ANYWHERE? >> HE HE ALREADY HAD MOVED IT. 1451 01:20:39,673 --> 01:20:42,876 HE WENT IN HERE BEFORE I GOT IN HERE 1452 01:20:42,876 --> 01:20:44,978 >> HE DID? >> YEAH, HE MOVED IT ALL AND I 1453 01:20:44,978 --> 01:20:47,614 DON'T KNOW WHERE HE PUT IT >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT. 1454 01:20:47,614 --> 01:20:50,350 THE FIRST OFFICER ON SCENE PICKED UP THE GUN AND MOVED IT 1455 01:20:50,350 --> 01:20:54,587 FROM THE BEDROOM TO THE KITCHEN, DISTURBING A KEY PIECE OF 1456 01:20:54,587 --> 01:20:57,791 EVIDENCE AND, ACCORDING TO RECORDS WE 1457 01:20:57,791 --> 01:21:03,663 EXAMINED, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE POLICE DID NOT HAVE -- 1458 01:21:03,663 --> 01:21:07,400 FINGERPRINTS THEY WAITED SIX MONTHS TO TEST 1459 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,070 THE GUN FOR THEM BY THAT TIME IT HAD BEEN SENT TO 1460 01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:13,807 A LAB AND SWABBED FOR DNA, POSSIBLY WIPING AWAY USABLE 1461 01:21:13,807 --> 01:21:17,811 PRINTS THE CRIME LAB DID FIND "UNKNOWN 1462 01:21:17,811 --> 01:21:20,747 DNA" ON THE GUN ALONG WITH JONATHAN'S, EXCEPT THERE'S NO 1463 01:21:20,747 --> 01:21:26,086 RECORD OF POLICE GETTING A DNA SAMPLE FROM BRENDA TO COMPARE IT 1464 01:21:26,086 --> 01:21:27,721 TO >> IF WE -- WE NEEDED TO TAKE 1465 01:21:27,721 --> 01:21:30,857 YOUR DNA, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US DOIN' THAT 1466 01:21:30,857 --> 01:21:32,959 >> NO. >> Reporter: AN ENVELOPE 1467 01:21:32,959 --> 01:21:37,797 LABELLED "DNA SAMPLE FROM BRENDA" WAS SENT TO THE LAB, BUT 1468 01:21:37,797 --> 01:21:41,601 IT TURNED OUT TO BE A SWAB OF JONATHAN'S BLOOD OFF HER HANDS 1469 01:21:41,601 --> 01:21:44,270 >> I KNOW THIS IS HARD, BUT I HAVE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS, ALL 1470 01:21:44,270 --> 01:21:46,439 RIGHT? >> Reporter: THAT NIGHT, BRENDA 1471 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,709 WAS QUESTIONED BY POLICE FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS. 1472 01:21:49,709 --> 01:21:53,313 THE STORY SHE TOLD POLICE WAS CONSISTENT 1473 01:21:53,313 --> 01:21:56,282 >> I WAS ASKING HER SOME QUESTIONS, TRYING TO CATCH HER 1474 01:21:56,282 --> 01:22:00,186 IN A LIE, BUT EVERYTHING MATCHES UP 1475 01:22:00,186 --> 01:22:04,357 >> Reporter: EVEN SO, HER STORY STILL RAISED A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 1476 01:22:04,357 --> 01:22:08,395 >> BUT YOU SEE HOW THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, RIGHT? 1477 01:22:08,395 --> 01:22:10,897 >> YES >> IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME 1478 01:22:10,897 --> 01:22:12,866 AT ALL >> Reporter: TO THIS DAY, FORMER 1479 01:22:12,866 --> 01:22:16,770 PROSECUTOR MIKE SNIPES THINKS POLICE COULD HAVE DONE MORE. 1480 01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:19,939 AND HE SAYS HE WAS WILLING TO TAKE A CASE AGAINST 1481 01:22:19,939 --> 01:22:25,845 BRENDA LAZARO BEFORE A JURY IN CRIMINAL COURT 1482 01:22:25,845 --> 01:22:30,116 WAS THIS DISAPPOINTING >> IT WAS. 1483 01:22:30,116 --> 01:22:33,853 >> Reporter: I MEAN, LOOK, IF YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A MURDERER 1484 01:22:33,853 --> 01:22:39,225 WALKING AROUND OUT THERE FREE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 1485 01:22:39,225 --> 01:22:43,496 >> Reporter: BRENDA'S ATTORNEY SAYS THE FACT BRENDA WAS NEVER 1486 01:22:43,496 --> 01:22:49,836 CHARGED IS THE WHOLE POINT SHE WASN'T CHARGED BECAUSE SHE'S 1487 01:22:49,836 --> 01:22:50,770 INNOCENT OF ANY TIME. >> SHE'S 1488 01:22:50,770 --> 01:22:54,474 BEEN HOUNDED NOW FOR NINE YEARS OVER THIS AND SHE WOULD REALLY 1489 01:22:54,474 --> 01:22:59,145 LIKE TO PUT THIS EXPERIENCE BEHIND HER AND -- AND MOVE 1490 01:22:59,145 --> 01:23:00,313 FORWARD. >> Reporter: PAM AND JOHN SAY 1491 01:23:00,313 --> 01:23:04,084 THEY WILL NEVER GIVE UP FIGHTING FOR ANSWERS ABOUT THEIR SON'S 1492 01:23:04,084 --> 01:23:06,753 DEATH. AND THEY ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO 1493 01:23:06,753 --> 01:23:12,092 REMEMBER HOW HE LIVED. THEIR BIG HEARTED, GOOFY SON 1494 01:23:12,092 --> 01:23:17,464 THE DOTING BIG BROTHER AND BEST FRIEND WHO BROUGHT LAUGHTER INTO 1495 01:23:17,464 --> 01:23:21,434 ALL THEIR LIVES. AND LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT 1496 01:23:21,434 --> 01:23:24,904 >> HE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, WASN'T HE 1497 01:23:24,904 --> 01:23:27,574 NEVER STOPPED MOVING HE WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT LIFE AND 1498 01:23:27,574 --> 01:23:33,980 HE NEVER LOST THAT JUST THE JOY OF EVERY DAY. 1499 01:23:33,980 --> 01:23:39,352 >>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "DATELINE." 1500 01:23:39,352 --> 01:23:41,488 WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN SUNDAY AT 7:00 P.M., 6:00 P.M. CENTRAL 1501 01:23:41,488 --> 01:23:43,089 AND, OF COURSE, I'LL SEE YOU EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR "NBC NIGHTLY 1502 01:23:43,089 --> 01:23:45,558 NEWS." I'M LESTER HOLT. 1503 01:23:45,558 --> 01:23:49,262 FOR ALL OF US AT NBC NEWS, GOOD NIGHT.