1 00:00:16,616 --> 00:00:18,218 >>> I'M LESTER HOLT. 2 00:00:18,218 --> 00:00:20,854 TONIGHT ON "DATELINE" -- A HOME FULL OF FRIENDS, FAMILY, 3 00:00:20,854 --> 00:00:24,557 AND LOVERS WHICH ONE WAS A KILLER 4 00:00:24,557 --> 00:00:28,228 >> 911, HOW CAN I HELP YOU >> SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL ME. 5 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:31,898 >> DO YOU NEED AN AMBULANCE? >> YES 6 00:00:31,898 --> 00:00:35,068 >> A BREAK-IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, STABBED MULTIPLE 7 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:39,739 TIMES. >> I CAN SEE BLOOD EVERYWHERE. 8 00:00:39,739 --> 00:00:44,477 IT IS A HORRIFIC CRIME SCENE >> ONE OF THE SCARIEST CASES 9 00:00:44,477 --> 00:00:48,682 I'VE EVER SEEN >> ANNIE PARTICIPATED IN PIRATE 10 00:00:48,682 --> 00:00:51,317 PARTIES OR DUNGEON PARTIES >> Reporter: SO WE'RE WAY PAST 11 00:00:51,317 --> 00:00:55,021 LOVE TRIANGLE HERE THIS IS, LIKE, LOVE TRAPEZOID. 12 00:00:55,021 --> 00:00:58,258 >> LOVE SPIDER WEB >> I ENDED UP CHEATING ON HER. 13 00:00:58,258 --> 00:00:59,659 >> UH-HUH. >> NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS 14 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:03,396 RELATIONSHIP THING >> THERE WAS A LOT OF ANGER. 15 00:01:03,396 --> 00:01:05,498 IT STARTED GOIN', LIKE, SIDEWAYS REAL QUICK 16 00:01:05,498 --> 00:01:08,101 >> THEY AGREED TO A SUM OF $10,000 TO $50,000 TO COMMIT THE 17 00:01:08,101 --> 00:01:10,737 MURDER >> ANY CHANCE THAT MATTHEW 18 00:01:10,737 --> 00:01:12,839 COULD'VE GONE ANYWHERE SOMETIME DURING THE NIGHT 19 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:16,776 >> OH, GOD, EVERY TIME HE MOVES, HE WAKES ME UP 20 00:01:16,776 --> 00:01:18,611 >> SOMEBODY LEFT THAT HOME TO COMMIT THE MURDER. 21 00:01:18,611 --> 00:01:22,282 >> Reporter: CAN YOU TELL WHO'S DRIVING? 22 00:01:22,282 --> 00:01:25,985 >> NO. >> IF I HAD KNOWN, I COULD'VE 23 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:39,232 DONE SOMETHING MAYBE THAT WOMAN WOULD BE ALIVE. 24 00:01:39,232 --> 00:01:50,643 >> HERE'S JOSH MANKIEWICZ WITH "THE UNDOING." 25 00:01:50,643 --> 00:01:54,848 >> Reporter: IT WAS JUNE, 2016, AROUND 3:30 A.M., AND A CAR WAS 26 00:01:54,848 --> 00:01:59,552 ROARING DOWN A HIGHWAY NEXT TO THE COLUMBIA RIVER 27 00:01:59,552 --> 00:02:03,223 MINUTES BEFORE, THE POLICE DETECTIVE AT THE WHEEL, 28 00:02:03,223 --> 00:02:08,061 AARON TURNAGE WAS LIKE MOST OF US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT -- 29 00:02:08,061 --> 00:02:11,064 DEAD ASLEEP. >> AND I GOT A PHONE CALL ASKIN' 30 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:12,866 ME TO RESPOND IN -- IT WAS AN ASSAULT THAT HAD OCCURRED -- AND 31 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:16,903 THAT THIS WAS LIKELY GONNA TURN INTO A MURDER INVESTIGATION. 32 00:02:16,903 --> 00:02:21,141 >> Reporter: DETECTIVE TURNAGE LIVED IN WASHINGTON STATE. 33 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:25,345 HIS JOB WAS ACROSS THE RIVER, IN THE PORTLAND, OREGON, SUBURB OF 34 00:02:25,345 --> 00:02:27,447 GRESHAM. AND THAT WAS THE SCENE OF THE 35 00:02:27,447 --> 00:02:30,083 CRIME. >> IF I'M GETTING THE CALL, THAT 36 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:33,720 MEANS I'M GONNA BE THE ONE LEADING THE INVESTIGATION. 37 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,822 I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT I CAN DO TODAY TO ASSIST ME FIVE, SIX, 38 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:38,992 EIGHT, TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A 39 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:40,560 SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION >> Reporter: THAT'S THE WAY THE 40 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,662 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS TODAY. 41 00:02:42,662 --> 00:02:45,265 YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT NOT ONLY INVESTIGATION, BUT TRIAL, AND 42 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:47,367 THEN EVENTUAL APPEAL >> YOU HAVE TO START THINKIN' 43 00:02:47,367 --> 00:02:52,105 ABOUT THAT ON THE FRONT END. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOU'LL 44 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:54,207 NEVER GET THERE ON THE BACK END. >> Reporter: AS IT TURNED OUT, 45 00:02:54,207 --> 00:02:57,811 HIS THOUGHTS THAT NIGHT FORETOLD THE FUTURE 46 00:02:57,811 --> 00:03:02,082 AND 30 MINUTES AFTER HE'D BEEN STARTLED AWAKE, 47 00:03:02,082 --> 00:03:05,251 DETECTIVE TURNAGE ARRIVED AT THE CRIME SCENE -- A GROUND FLOOR 48 00:03:05,251 --> 00:03:08,555 UNIT IN THE EAST PARK APARTMENTS 49 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:15,729 PARAMEDICS HAD ALREADY TAKEN THE VICTIM TO THE HOSPITAL -- A 50 00:03:15,729 --> 00:03:19,399 WOMAN IN HER MID-30s HER NAME WAS ANNASTASIA HESTER, 51 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:22,135 KNOWN AS "ANNIE. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU GET THERE, 52 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:24,671 WHAT DO THE FIRST OFFICERS WHO WERE ON SCENE TELL YOU 53 00:03:24,671 --> 00:03:27,307 >> THEY TOLD ME THAT THE FRONT DOOR WAS UNLOCKED, AND WHEN THEY 54 00:03:27,307 --> 00:03:31,644 WENT INSIDE, THEY IMMEDIATELY SAW BLOODY SHOE PRINTS 55 00:03:31,644 --> 00:03:38,852 >> Reporter: CAREFULLY, THOSE OFFICERS SIDESTEPPED THE 56 00:03:38,852 --> 00:03:39,919 SHOEPRINTS >> AND THEY COULD SEE ANNIE 57 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:43,923 LAYING DOWN ON THE FLOOR, TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE 58 00:03:43,923 --> 00:03:49,362 APARTMENT. >> Reporter: WHEN POLICE ARRIVE, 59 00:03:49,362 --> 00:03:53,099 ANNIE'S STILL ALIVE? >> CORRECT 60 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:54,134 >> Reporter: SO HOW TO GET ANNIE TO A HOSPITAL WITHOUT 61 00:03:54,134 --> 00:03:55,435 CONTAMINATING THAT CERTAIN TO BE KEY EVIDENCE NEAR THE FRONT 62 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:56,236 DOOR BECAUSE THOSE FOOTPRINTS SAY THE 63 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:57,203 KILLER LEFT THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR 64 00:03:57,203 --> 00:04:00,373 >> CORRECT THE DETERMINATION WAS MADE THAT 65 00:04:00,373 --> 00:04:03,043 THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ANNIE OUT OF THE REAR SLIDING DOOR OF THIS 66 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:08,214 APARTMENT. SO THE NEXT SET OF RESPONDING 67 00:04:08,214 --> 00:04:11,084 OFFICERS TORE DOWN A SIX-FOOT WOODEN FENCE, AND THEY WERE ABLE 68 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:16,089 TO EXTRICATE ANNIE OUT AND GET HER OUT TO MEDICAL CARE. 69 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:24,064 BEHIND THE APARTMENT, THAT THE DETECTIVE SAW A BACK WINDOW TO 70 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:25,098 ANNIE'S PLACE. >> ON THE GROUND IS A CINDER 71 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:30,303 BLOCK, AND IT APPEARED THAT THE CINDER BLOCK WAS USED TO GAIN 72 00:04:30,303 --> 00:04:35,075 ACCESS TO THAT ELEVATED WINDOW >> Reporter: THE WINDOW LED TO 73 00:04:35,075 --> 00:04:36,076 THE BEDROOM OF A CHILD THE DETECTIVE WENT INSIDE. 74 00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:38,178 YOU SEE A CHILD'S BEDROOM. BUT NO CHILD 75 00:04:38,178 --> 00:04:39,746 >> CORRECT THE INITIAL THOUGHT WAS A 76 00:04:39,746 --> 00:04:42,382 KIDNAPPING OR AN ABDUCTION THAT HAD OCCURRED 77 00:04:42,382 --> 00:04:45,652 SO THERE WAS IMMEDIATE EFFORTS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WHO THE CHILD 78 00:04:45,652 --> 00:04:48,888 WAS AND THEN TRY TO DETERMINE IF THE CHILD WAS SAFE OR NOT. 79 00:04:48,888 --> 00:04:53,226 >> Reporter: DETECTIVE TURNAGE QUICKLY MADE SOME CALLS. 80 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:55,495 THE GIRL WAS ALICE SHE WAS ANNIE'S DAUGHTER AND 81 00:04:55,495 --> 00:04:58,198 JUST 4 YEARS OLD >> THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO 82 00:04:58,198 --> 00:05:01,801 IDENTIFY THAT MATTHEW HESTER WAS HER FATHER 83 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:03,903 AND WE STARTED LOOKING TO TRY TO CONTACT HIM AND FIND OUT IF HE 84 00:05:03,903 --> 00:05:07,040 HAD HIS DAUGHTER >> Reporter: SOME GOOD NEWS. 85 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:16,049 THEY FOUND MATT. HE HAD ALICE AT HIS PLACE IN 86 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:17,050 PORTLAND THIS WAS, LIKE, A CUSTODY 87 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:18,251 SHARING ARRANGEMENT, AND THAT NIGHT WAS MATT'S NIGHT TO HAVE 88 00:05:18,251 --> 00:05:19,152 ALICE? >> THAT IS CORRECT 89 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:20,820 >> Reporter: ONCE YOU REALIZE THAT ALICE IS NOT IN ANY DANGER, 90 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:24,924 NOW WHAT >> SO NOW WE HAVE TO START 91 00:05:24,924 --> 00:05:27,093 TAKIN' A LOOK AT THE SCENE >> Reporter: THE APARTMENT HAD 92 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:29,662 ONLY ONE BEDROOM -- THE LITTLE GIRL'S 93 00:05:29,662 --> 00:05:33,867 ANNIE, IT TURNED OUT, HAD BEEN FOUND ON THE LIVING ROOM FLOOR, 94 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:39,639 NEXT TO A SOFA BED, WHERE, BY THE LOOKS OF IT, SHE HAD BEEN 95 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:41,875 SLEEPING WHEN SHE WAS ATTACKED >> IT IS A HORRIFIC AND VERY -- 96 00:05:41,875 --> 00:05:44,944 OBVIOUSLY A VERY VIOLENT CRIME SCENE. 97 00:05:44,944 --> 00:05:46,079 >> Reporter: WHILE YOU'RE EXAMINING THE SCENE, YOU GET A 98 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:51,217 CALL THAT ANNIE DIDN'T SURVIVE >> THAT'S CORRECT. 99 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:56,456 >> Reporter: ANNIE HESTER HAD BEEN MURDERED AT ONLY 34 100 00:05:56,456 --> 00:06:00,126 AND STEPS FROM WHERE ANNIE HAD BEEN FOUND ON THE FLOOR, THE 101 00:06:00,126 --> 00:06:03,763 DETECTIVE SAW A KNIFE. A FOLDING POCKETKNIFE. 102 00:06:03,763 --> 00:06:08,034 AND NEAR THE KITCHEN, TWO MORE KNIVES 103 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:10,704 BIGGER KNIVES. IT LOOKED AS IF THEY HAD ONCE 104 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:15,342 RESIDED IN THE BUTCHER BLOCK IN ANNIE'S KITCHEN. 105 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:22,749 I WOULD GUESS THAT IN A MURDER LIKE THAT, YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO 106 00:06:22,749 --> 00:06:23,650 FIND A MURDER WEAPON BUT NOT THREE OF THEM. 107 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:24,951 >> CORRECT IT'S THE ONLY TIME I'VE SEEN IT 108 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:28,488 WHERE A KILLER WENT INTO THE KITCHEN AND GOT TWO BUTCHER 109 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:31,124 KNIVES TO FINISH THE STABBING. >> Reporter: IT WAS AN ASSAULT 110 00:06:31,124 --> 00:06:36,663 SO SAVAGE THAT A FACT THE DETECTIVE WOULD LATER LEARN 111 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:38,064 STILL TROUBLES HIM TO THIS DAY WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU WHEN THE 112 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:40,066 MURDERER TRIES TO CUT THE VICTIM'S HEAD OFF? 113 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:42,669 >> THE AMOUNT OF PASSION AND INTENSITY IN THIS CRIME IS VERY, 114 00:06:42,669 --> 00:06:50,477 VERY UNIQUE. >> Reporter: THE RAGE. 115 00:06:50,477 --> 00:06:51,611 THE BLOODY SHOE PRINTS THE KNIVES 116 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:54,214 THE CINDER BLOCK SO MUCH EVIDENCE TO CONSIDER 117 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:57,350 USING THE CINDER BLOCK TO TAKE THE AIR CONDITIONER OUT AND GO 118 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:59,719 IN THAT WAY SUGGESTS THAT ANNIE MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW HER KILLER 119 00:06:59,719 --> 00:07:03,656 OR AT LEAST DIDN'T LET THEM IN THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR 120 00:07:03,656 --> 00:07:07,327 >> I AGREE, YES. >> Reporter: THAT KINDA FIGHTS 121 00:07:07,327 --> 00:07:11,564 THE WHOLE RAGE-PASSION ANGLE I MEAN, SOMEBODY RANDOM, LESS 122 00:07:11,564 --> 00:07:13,667 LIKELY TO HAVE ALL THIS FURY AGAINST ANNIE? 123 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,335 >> HOW SO? >> Reporter: A MURDER COMMITTED 124 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:20,507 WITH THAT MUCH PASSION -- THAT SAYS PERSONAL. 125 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:21,741 BUT SOMEBODY WHO GOES IN THROUGH A WINDOW -- THAT SUGGESTS NOT 126 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:24,444 PERSONAL >> YEAH, IT COULD BE RANDOM. 127 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,146 YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WERE INVITED IN ONE DAY BUT NOT 128 00:07:26,146 --> 00:07:27,547 INVITED THE SECOND SO THE SECOND DAY THEY CAME IN 129 00:07:27,547 --> 00:07:31,051 THROUGH THE WINDOW TO COMMIT THE ACT OF VIOLENCE. 130 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:33,620 >> Reporter: BEFORE LONG, DETECTIVE TURNAGE LEFT THE SCENE 131 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,222 TO HOLD A BRIEFING WITH HIS TEAM AT THE GRESHAM POLICE 132 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:39,926 DEPARTMENT THAT'S WHEN HE HEARD THE 133 00:07:39,926 --> 00:07:42,662 RECORDING OF THE 911 CALL THAT HAD LED POLICE TO THE APARTMENT. 134 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:47,267 THE CALL WAS NOT FROM A NEIGHBOR 135 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:52,072 NOT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER IT CAME FROM THE VICTIM HERSELF. 136 00:07:52,072 --> 00:07:58,812 A 911 CALL CAPTURING THE LAST WORDS OF ANNIE HESTER. 137 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,914 >>> WHEN WE COME BACK -- A DESPERATE AND DYING ANNIE BEGS 138 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:03,516 FOR HELP >> 911 139 00:08:03,516 --> 00:08:07,187 >> HELP. SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL ME 140 00:08:07,187 --> 00:08:10,323 >> DO YOU NEED AN AMBULANCE? >> YES, NOW! 141 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:14,027 >> I DON'T THINK THERE ARE WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE LEVEL OF 142 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:16,629 INTENSITY IN THAT 911 CALL >> AND THE KILLER LEAVES A 143 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:17,664 TERRIFYING CALLING CARD. >> Reporter: SOME SORT OF 144 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:37,884 MESSAGE? >> COULD'VE BEEN 145 00:08:37,884 --> 00:08:39,753 AARON TURNAGE DID NOT HAVE TO GO FAR FROM ANNIE HESTER'S 146 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:43,356 APARTMENT TO GATHER WITH HIS TEAM OF INVESTIGATORS. 147 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:46,559 THE CRIME SCENE IS ONLY ABOUT TEN BLOCKS FROM THE GRESHAM 148 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,661 POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> IT'S IN THE HEART OF GRESHAM. 149 00:08:48,661 --> 00:08:53,366 IT'S CLOSE TO SCHOOLS. IT'S CLOSE TO RESTAURANTS AND 150 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:56,069 BUSINESSES THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL PLACE 151 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:59,706 WHERE WE SEE VIOLENT CRIMES ERUPT IN THE CITY OF GRESHAM 152 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:03,410 >> Reporter: AND IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR NEWS OF A MURDER ON 153 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:07,047 UNCOMMON GROUND TO SPREAD ACROSS THE PORTLAND AREA. 154 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:10,684 >> POLICE SAY THE WOMAN STABBED AT THE APARTMENTS WAS IN 155 00:09:10,684 --> 00:09:12,886 HER 30s. >> I WAS JUST CRYING AND HOWLING 156 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:16,456 AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE AN ANIMAL 157 00:09:16,456 --> 00:09:19,592 >> Reporter: NICOLE PALAZUELOS CONSIDERED ANNIE HER BEST 158 00:09:19,592 --> 00:09:21,261 FRIEND THEY WORKED TOGETHER AT A CALL 159 00:09:21,261 --> 00:09:23,797 CENTER WHERE ANNIE TRAINED NICOLE 160 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:29,569 YOU WERE A LITTLE SCARED OF HER AT FIRST 161 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,172 >> YEAH, SHE WAS INTIMIDATING AT FIRST BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T DO 162 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:36,876 YOUR JOB WELL, SHE WOULD CALL YOU OUT ON IT. 163 00:09:36,876 --> 00:09:41,614 I NEVER MET ANYBODY WHO COULD DO SO MANY JOBS AT ONCE AND DO THEM 164 00:09:41,614 --> 00:09:45,952 ALL WELL >> Reporter: ANNIE HAD ALWAYS 165 00:09:45,952 --> 00:09:48,054 HAD THAT "TAKE CHARGE" ATTITUDE AS THE BIG SISTER IN HER FAMILY. 166 00:09:48,054 --> 00:09:51,624 HER PARENTS DIVORCED WHEN SHE WAS JUST 7 167 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:55,295 AS SHE GREW, ANNIE DEVELOPED A REPUTATION FOR RELIABILITY 168 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:58,598 SHE WORKED AT AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN BEFORE 169 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:08,408 STARTING AT THE CALL CENTER, WHERE SHE ROSE TO SUPERVISOR 170 00:10:08,408 --> 00:10:14,214 IN 2008, WHEN SHE WAS 26, SHE MARRIED MATT HESTER. 171 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:16,316 HE WORKED AS A SALESMAN AT A WIRELESS STORE 172 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:18,918 MATT LOVED VIDEO GAMES HALF-SISTER TONYA AND 173 00:10:18,918 --> 00:10:21,021 SISTER-IN-LAW DYANNA SAY ANNIE WAS FOCUSED ON A MORE SERIOUS 174 00:10:21,021 --> 00:10:24,758 GAME >> SHE HAD TOLD MY HUSBAND THAT 175 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:28,395 HE WAS "WINNING THE GAME OF LIFE" BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRST 176 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:34,701 TO MOVE INTO A HOUSE, TO BUY A NEW CAR, TO GET MARRIED, TO HAVE 177 00:10:34,701 --> 00:10:36,336 A KID. >> Reporter: ANNIE SAW THIS AS 178 00:10:36,336 --> 00:10:37,837 SOME KIND OF COMPETITION >> YEAH. 179 00:10:37,837 --> 00:10:42,042 >> SHE FELT, BEING THE OLDEST, THAT THOSE THINGS SHOULD COME TO 180 00:10:42,042 --> 00:10:43,276 HER FIRST, NATURALLY >> Reporter: AND WHEN YOU FEEL 181 00:10:43,276 --> 00:10:44,144 THAT WAY, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE SETTLE 182 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:47,881 >> UH-HUH. YEAH 183 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:52,018 >> Reporter: ANNIE HESTER WAS NOT THE FIRST WOMAN IN HISTORY 184 00:10:52,018 --> 00:10:57,791 TO SETTLE AND MARRY A MAN HER FAMILY WASN'T CRAZY ABOUT. 185 00:10:57,791 --> 00:11:00,393 AND AT LEAST FOR AWHILE, IT DID WORK 186 00:11:00,393 --> 00:11:03,563 >> SHE WANTED TO FEEL LIKE SHE WAS STAYING WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. 187 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:07,267 >> Reporter: AND THREE YEARS INTO THE MARRIAGE, ANNIE FINALLY 188 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:10,570 WAS, WHEN ANNIE AND MATT HAD A LITTLE GIRL. 189 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:14,074 DID HAVING THE BABY LIVE UP TO THE EXPECTATION OF HAVING THE 190 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,176 BABY FOR ANNIE >> SHE WAS ECSTATIC HAVING 191 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,778 ALICE. >> HER WORLD REVOLVED AROUND 192 00:11:18,778 --> 00:11:21,414 ALICE. >> Reporter: THE SAME COULD NOT 193 00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:24,551 BE SAID FOR HER RELATIONSHIP WITH HER HUSBAND 194 00:11:24,551 --> 00:11:30,990 LESS THAN A YEAR AFTER ALICE WAS BORN, MATT AND ANNIE DIVORCED 195 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:32,992 AND ANNIE BECAME A SINGLE MOM. >> SHE'D ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO GO 196 00:11:32,992 --> 00:11:36,129 AND GET THEIR PHOTOS DONE FOR EASTER AND CHRISTMAS 197 00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:38,164 THEY ALWAYS HAD CUTE OUTFITS AND HER HAIR DONE UP AND - 198 00:11:38,164 --> 00:11:42,135 >> Reporter: SOUNDS LIKE SHE WAS REALLY DEVOTED TO HER DAUGHTER 199 00:11:42,135 --> 00:11:44,504 >> OH, SHE WAS >> Reporter: MATT AND ANNIE 200 00:11:44,504 --> 00:11:49,776 WORKED OUT A PEACEFUL CUSTODY ARRANGEMENT WITH ALICE 201 00:11:49,776 --> 00:11:52,412 AND IN ADDITION TO HER 9:00-TO-5:00 WEEKDAY JOB, ANNIE 202 00:11:52,412 --> 00:11:55,015 STARTED A SIDE JOB AS A FACE PAINTER WITH HER BEST FRIEND 203 00:11:55,015 --> 00:11:57,150 NICOLE >> WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER ON 204 00:11:57,150 --> 00:12:02,389 THE WEEKENDS THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE HER DAUGHTER. 205 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:04,491 AND SHE WORKED SO HARD, AND SHE REALLY WORKED EVERY OPPORTUNITY 206 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:09,863 THAT SHE COULD TO MAKE THE EXTRA MONEY. 207 00:12:09,863 --> 00:12:13,400 SHE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB >> Reporter: ALONG WITH ANNIE'S 208 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,672 LIFE, THAT ALL ENDED EARLY ONE MORNING IN JUNE, 2016. 209 00:12:18,672 --> 00:12:22,842 IT WAS NOW DETECTIVE TURNAGE'S JOB TO FIND OUT WHO'D KILLED 210 00:12:22,842 --> 00:12:26,546 ANNIE AND WHY. IN THE FIRST FEW HOURS OF 211 00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:31,785 DAYLIGHT, OFFICERS FROM THE SCENE WERE REPORTING BACK TO THE 212 00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:33,920 POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH WHAT THEY'D LEARNED 213 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,557 THERE WERE, AS IT TURNED OUT, PLENTY OF POTENTIAL WITNESSES. 214 00:12:37,557 --> 00:12:39,659 >> WE FOUND MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS SAYING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME 215 00:12:39,659 --> 00:12:43,863 THING. ABOUT 11:00 P.M., THEY HEAR, UH, 216 00:12:43,863 --> 00:12:46,499 SOUNDS OF A WOMAN SCREAMING. SOMEBODY ELSE HEARS A THUD ON 217 00:12:46,499 --> 00:12:49,669 THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING DIRECTLY BELOW 218 00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:52,305 ANOTHER WITNESS HEARS WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONVERSATION AND 219 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:54,941 MOANING. AND THAT PERSON ACTUALLY TURNED 220 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:58,111 UP THEIR BATHROOM FAN AND TURNED ON THE MUSIC TO DROWN OUT THE 221 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:01,247 SOUND. >> Reporter: AND FOUR HOURS 222 00:13:01,247 --> 00:13:05,418 LATER -- >> AT ABOUT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, 223 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:10,190 ANOTHER SET OF WITNESSES ARE HEARING A WOMAN SCREAMING, A 224 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:13,326 DOOR SLAM, A CAR LEAVE >> Reporter: OKAY, TWO THINGS 225 00:13:13,326 --> 00:13:18,598 FROM THAT. ONE, NOBODY CALLS 911? 226 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:22,802 >> NOT ONE NEIGHBOR CALLED 911 >> Reporter: SECONDLY, SO THIS 227 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,939 ATTACK TOOK FOUR HOURS >> YEAH, ABOUT 3 1/2 228 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:29,075 >> Reporter: SO THIS ISN'T JUST A MURDER 229 00:13:29,075 --> 00:13:31,711 THIS IS TORTURE. >> THIS IS TORTURE 230 00:13:31,711 --> 00:13:34,881 >> Reporter: AND THEN TURNAGE FINALLY HEARD WHO DID CALL FOR 231 00:13:34,881 --> 00:13:38,518 HELP YOU MAY WELL FIND IT WRENCHINGLY 232 00:13:38,518 --> 00:13:41,154 HARD TO LISTEN TO. DETECTIVE TURNAGE DEFINITELY 233 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:45,859 DID. >> I DON'T THINK THERE ARE WORDS 234 00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:50,096 TO DESCRIBE THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY IN THAT 911 CALL 235 00:13:50,096 --> 00:13:54,267 >> Reporter: THAT'S BECAUSE THE CALL WAS MADE BY ANNIE AT 236 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:58,905 2:59 A.M IT'S A CHILLING, SIX-MINUTE-LONG 237 00:13:58,905 --> 00:14:03,276 CRY FOR HELP, MADE SHORTLY AFTER HER ATTACKER LEFT THOSE BLOODY 238 00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:05,845 SHOE PRINTS BEHIND ON THE WAY OUT. 239 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,448 >> 911 >> HELP, SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL 240 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:12,652 ME >> 911, HOW CAN I HELP YOU 241 00:14:12,652 --> 00:14:17,357 >> SOMEONE TRIED TO KILL ME. >> WHAT HAPPENED 242 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:22,128 >> SOMEONE STARTED STABBING ME >> SOMEBODY TRIED -- 243 00:14:22,128 --> 00:14:24,197 [ UNINTELLIGIBLE ] >> WHERE IS THIS PERSON AT -- AT 244 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:29,969 NOW? >> NOT HERE. 245 00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:34,174 >> DO YOU NEED AN AMBULANCE? >> YES, NOW! 246 00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:39,412 >> DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THE PERSON THAT DID THIS TO YOU? 247 00:14:39,412 --> 00:14:42,082 >> NO. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU HEAR THAT 248 00:14:42,082 --> 00:14:44,684 SHE DOESN'T KNOW THIS PERSON, WHAT'S THAT SAY TO YOU 249 00:14:44,684 --> 00:14:48,888 >> I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF SURPRISE WHEN THE ATTACK TOOK 250 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:52,559 PLACE. I KNOW THAT ANNIE IS SLEEPING. 251 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:55,729 AND IF SHE'S TAKEN BY SURPRISE, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME SHE CAN'T 252 00:14:55,729 --> 00:15:01,468 IDENTIFY WHO HER ATTACKER IS >> AND YOU'RE BLEEDING A LOT 253 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:04,137 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: AT ANNIE'S AUTOPSY, 254 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:08,842 TURNAGE UNDERSTOOD WHY ANNIE WAS IN SUCH PAIN 255 00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:12,512 THERE WERE MORE THAN 60 STAB WOUNDS, SOME AS DEEP AS 256 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:17,751 8 INCHES AND STRANGELY, SOMETHING WAS 257 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:20,887 CARVED INTO HER SHOULDER >> IT WAS A "V," AN "X," AND 258 00:15:20,887 --> 00:15:26,926 THEN ANOTHER "V. AND THAT'S NOT A ROMAN NUMERAL 259 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,094 BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. >> Reporter: SOME SORT OF 260 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:30,530 MESSAGE? SOME SORT OF SIGNATURE 261 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:31,965 >> COULD'VE BEEN THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING 262 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:34,768 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAUNTS ME ABOUT THIS CASE IS JUST THE 263 00:15:34,768 --> 00:15:37,771 LEVEL OF PAIN THAT ANNIE HAD TO ENDURE FOR 3 1/2 HOURS 264 00:15:37,771 --> 00:15:40,907 AND STILL, ANNIE HAS THE WHEREWITHAL TO FIGHT FOR 265 00:15:40,907 --> 00:15:44,878 HERSELF, CALL 911, AND GET OUT THE INFORMATION TO GET LAW 266 00:15:44,878 --> 00:15:50,350 ENFORCEMENT THERE. >> Reporter: IT WAS TIME FOR 267 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:52,085 DETECTIVE TURNAGE TO START GETTING FACE-TO-FACE WITH THOSE 268 00:15:52,085 --> 00:15:55,088 WHO MIGHT KNOW WHO HAD DONE THIS TO ANNIE 269 00:15:55,088 --> 00:15:57,190 >>> COMING UP -- A TWO-TIMING EX-HUSBAND IS 270 00:15:57,190 --> 00:16:01,361 ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE TO START >> I ENDED UP CHEATING ON HER. 271 00:16:01,361 --> 00:16:02,929 >> UH-HUH. >> NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS 272 00:16:02,929 --> 00:16:06,633 RELATIONSHIP THING >> WILL MATT'S CURRENT WIFE 273 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:08,301 VOUCH FOR HIM? >> ANY CHANCE THAT MATTHEW 274 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:10,804 COULD'VE GONE ANYWHERE SOME -- SOME TIME DURING THE NIGHT 275 00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:31,558 >> OH, GOD, EVERY TIME HE MOVES, HE WAKES ME UP 276 00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:32,625 >> Reporter: START CLOSE CLOSE TO THE VICTIM. 277 00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:41,534 THAT'S IN EVERY HOMICIDE DETECTIVE'S BIBLE OF MURDER 278 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:42,635 INVESTIGATION. AND SINCE ANNIE WASN'T MARRIED 279 00:16:42,635 --> 00:16:44,938 DETECTIVE TURNAGE STARTED WITH THE NEXT BEST THING. 280 00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:47,107 HER FORMER HUSBAND MATT HESTER >> YEAH, GO AHEAD AND HAVE A 281 00:16:47,107 --> 00:16:48,875 SEAT, I'LL BE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE 282 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:55,181 >> Reporter: MATT WAS 35 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, HE MOVED AS 283 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:56,750 IF HE WERE MUCH OLDER. THANKS, HE MAINTAINED, TO SOME 284 00:16:56,750 --> 00:17:00,420 UNDIAGNOSED MEDICAL PROBLEMS THAT HAD LEFT HIM IN NEARLY 285 00:17:00,420 --> 00:17:07,761 CONSTANT PAIN. AND, UNABLE TO WORK FOR A 286 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:09,429 LIVING WHEN HE COMES IN, HOW DOES HE 287 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:10,330 STRIKE YOU >> MATT STRUCK ME AS AN ACTOR HE 288 00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:11,564 NEEDED AN ACADEMY AWARD FOR THE ACTING JOB THAT HE DID WHEN HE 289 00:17:11,564 --> 00:17:15,135 SHOWED UP AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT DAY. 290 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:37,357 >> SO I GUESS UM, OBVIOUSLY I TOLD YOU AT THE HOUSE THAT YOUR 291 00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:38,291 EX-WIFE IS DECEASED -- >> BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY- 292 00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:39,292 >> DIDN'T SAY HOW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 293 00:17:39,292 --> 00:17:40,326 WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE OR TWO. 294 00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:41,461 >> OK. >> Reporter: IF YOU THINK MATT 295 00:17:41,461 --> 00:17:43,129 SEEMED A LITTLE DISINTERESTED IN LEARNING HOW THE MOTHER OF HIS 296 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:45,265 DAUGHTER HAD BEEN KILLED YOU ARE NOT ALONE. 297 00:17:45,265 --> 00:17:50,303 MINUTES LATER, ANOTHER DETECTIVE TOLD MATT WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO 298 00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:51,371 ANNIE -- AND, ABOUT HER 9-1-1 CALL 299 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:52,439 >> SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN STABBED. 300 00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:53,640 OFFICERS RESPONDED DOWN THERE, UM, SHE HAD BEEN INJURED, SHE 301 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,874 WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL AND SHE WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD AT 302 00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:56,710 THE HOSPITAL >> OK. 303 00:17:56,710 --> 00:18:01,348 >> AND AT THIS POINT WE'RE INVESTIGATING THIS AS A 304 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:03,450 HOMICIDE UH, DID YOUR WIFE SAY ANY -- 305 00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:04,617 EX-WIFE-SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANYONE? 306 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:06,086 >> I DON'T TALK ABOUT HER PERSONAL LIFE. 307 00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:08,688 >> OK. >> Reporter: THEN, AS DETECTIVES 308 00:18:08,688 --> 00:18:11,825 DO, THEY STARTED LOCKING MATT INTO A STORY ABOUT HIS HISTORY, 309 00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:15,495 WITH ANNIE >> WHEN DID YOU AND ANN FIRST 310 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:17,597 MEET >> UH, WE FIRST MET IN 1999, UH, 311 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:21,301 THROUGH A MUTUAL FRIEND. >> Reporter: NOT LONG AFTER THAT 312 00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:25,472 MEETING, THERE WAS A WEDDING NOT BETWEEN MATT AND ANNIE 313 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:28,108 HE MARRIED SOMEONE ELSE. THAT UNION LASTED JUST A COUPLE 314 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:29,342 OF YEARS >> WHY DID YOU GUYS, UH, GET 315 00:18:29,342 --> 00:18:32,312 DIVORCED >> I CHEATED ON HER. 316 00:18:32,312 --> 00:18:37,050 >> OK. >> Reporter: SO IT WAS, LESS 317 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:39,119 THAN TWO YEARS AFTER HIS FIRST DIVORCE, THAT IN 2008, MATT, 318 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,323 ADMITTEDLY ON THE REBOUND MARRIED ANNIE. 319 00:18:43,323 --> 00:18:50,163 AND THEN, THREE YEARS LATER, IN 2011, AFTER ALICE WAS BORN, THIS 320 00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:51,831 MARRIAGE TOO, WAS DISSOLVING >> I ENDED UP CHEATING ON HER. 321 00:18:51,831 --> 00:18:58,071 >> UH-HUH. >> I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS 322 00:18:58,071 --> 00:19:05,412 RELATIONSHIP THING >> Reporter: I'M NOT GOOD AT 323 00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:11,284 THIS RELATIONSHIP THING, IS THAT KIND OF CANDOR UNUSUAL IN A 324 00:19:11,284 --> 00:19:12,118 POLICE INTERVIEW, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE 325 00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:13,253 PERSON YOU'RE TALKIN' ABOUT HAS NOW BEEN MURDERED? 326 00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:14,421 >> IT IS, YEAH >> Reporter: HE WAS GOOD AT ONE 327 00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:15,188 THING. BY MANY ACCOUNTS, MATT WAS A 328 00:19:15,188 --> 00:19:16,122 LOVING FATHER TO ALICE >> I LOVE BEING A DAD. 329 00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:18,124 >> Reporter: AND FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AFTER THE DIVORCE, MATT 330 00:19:18,124 --> 00:19:21,795 AND ANNIE AMICABLY SHARED CUSTODY OF THEIR DAUGHTER. 331 00:19:21,795 --> 00:19:27,934 THEN IN 2014, MATT MARRIED FOR THE THIRD TIME, TO A WOMAN NAMED 332 00:19:27,934 --> 00:19:31,638 ANGELA. SHE HAD CHILDREN OF HER OWN. 333 00:19:31,638 --> 00:19:34,908 IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE A CUSTODY AND SUPPORT BATTLE BEGAN OVER 334 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:37,544 ALICE. >> HOW ARE YOUR FEELINGS TOWARDS 335 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:42,048 ANN? >> MOSTLY INDIFFERENT. 336 00:19:42,048 --> 00:19:43,850 I JUST -- I WANT TO DEAL WITH HER AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. 337 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:46,486 >> Reporter: FEELINGS ARE ONE THING. 338 00:19:46,486 --> 00:19:50,156 FOR THE MOMENT, POLICE HAD MORE IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS. 339 00:19:50,156 --> 00:19:52,258 >> SO WHAT WERE YOU AND ANGELA DOING LAST NIGHT 340 00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:53,827 >> SLEEPING. >> OK. 341 00:19:53,827 --> 00:19:55,962 DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME YOU WENT TO BED 342 00:19:55,962 --> 00:19:58,565 >> UM, I USUALLY GET INTO BED AROUND 10 O'CLOCK. 343 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:00,433 >> OK. AND WAS ANGELA WITH YOU OR WAS 344 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:01,701 SHE STAYIN' UP DOIN' OTHER THINGS OR -- 345 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:04,871 >> SHE WAS WITH ME IN BED. >> Reporter: THEY HAD FOUR 346 00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:08,508 CHILDREN UNDER THEIR ROOF, THERE WAS ALICE, WHO WAS THERE 347 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:12,178 PART-TIME, AS WELL AS THREE CHILDREN FROM ANGELA'S PREVIOUS 348 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,581 MARRIAGES. THOSE KIDS WERE A HANDFUL, MATT 349 00:20:14,581 --> 00:20:16,916 SAID, AND HE AND ANGELA WERE WORN OUT 350 00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:28,495 SHE ALSO HADN'T BEEN FEELING WELL 351 00:20:28,495 --> 00:20:29,496 >> HAVE A SEAT, UH, RIGHT THERE. >> OK. 352 00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:31,097 >> Reporter: IN ANOTHER ROOM JUST DOWN THE HALL, ANGELA WAS 353 00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:33,700 BEING QUESTIONED LIKE MATT, ANGELA TOLD 354 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:34,868 DETECTIVES THEY WERE IN BED BY ALTHOUGH SHE SAID, THEY WERE 355 00:20:34,868 --> 00:20:40,073 BOTH AWAKE MATT, SCROLLING ON HIS PHONE 356 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:42,776 AND ANGELA, WATCHING TV. >> I WAS ON THE VERGE OF FALLIN' 357 00:20:42,776 --> 00:20:44,277 ASLEEP TO SOME CRIMINAL MINDS. >> WHEN YOU GUYS WERE SLEEPIN' 358 00:20:44,277 --> 00:20:47,881 WHO GETS THE INSIDE AND WHO GETS THE OUTSIDE? 359 00:20:47,881 --> 00:20:51,051 >> MATT'S AGAINST THE WALL >> ANY CHANCE THAT, UH, MATTHEW 360 00:20:51,051 --> 00:20:52,619 COULD'VE GONE ANYWHERE SOME -- SOMETIME DURING THE NIGHT? 361 00:20:52,619 --> 00:20:56,322 >> OH GOD, EVERY TIME HE MOVES HE WAKES ME UP 362 00:20:56,322 --> 00:20:59,259 SO IT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY AND I SLEEP, LIKE LITERALLY RIGHT UP 363 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:04,698 AGAINST HIM IN HIS ARMS. >> IF HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN UP 364 00:21:04,698 --> 00:21:05,732 OUT OF BED YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD KNOW IT. 365 00:21:05,732 --> 00:21:07,434 >> MOST DEFINITELY >> Reporter: WHEN THE INTERVIEWS 366 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:19,879 WERE OVER, ANGELA, AND MATT BOTH WILLINGLY HANDED OVER THEIR CELL 367 00:21:19,879 --> 00:21:21,214 PHONES, BECAUSE POLICE SAID THEY WANTED TO DOWNLOAD GPS AND OTHER 368 00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:22,082 INFORMATION. >> MATT'S ALIBI IS ANGELA. 369 00:21:22,082 --> 00:21:22,849 AND ANGELA'S ALIBI IS MATT >> CORRECT 370 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:24,751 >> Reporter: THAT'S NOT MUCH -- BUT IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE 371 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,419 NIGHT. SO POLICE WONDERED -- WHO ELSE 372 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:29,823 COULD ALIBI ANGELA AND MATT THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER. 373 00:21:29,823 --> 00:21:36,396 AND IT TURNED OUT, THERE WERE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO COULD 374 00:21:36,396 --> 00:21:39,866 >> COMING UP - THREE'S COMPANY. 375 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,935 IT'S COMPLICATED >> THAT'S A THING IN PORTLAND? 376 00:21:41,935 --> 00:21:43,803 >> IT WAS IN THAT HOUSE. >> CAUSE THAT'S KINDA WEIRD. 377 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:44,738 >> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU SEE EVERYDAY 378 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,458 >> Reporter: IN AN ORDINARY HOUSEHOLD, A HUSBAND MIGHT OFFER 379 00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:09,629 AN ALIBI FOR A WIFE. AND A WIFE MIGHT OFFER AN ALIBI 380 00:22:09,629 --> 00:22:11,231 FOR HER HUSBAND. AND ONLY CHILDREN, UNRELIABLE 381 00:22:11,231 --> 00:22:15,935 WITNESSES FOR THE MOST PART, WOULD BE LEFT. 382 00:22:15,935 --> 00:22:21,708 BUT NONE OF THAT WAS TRUE IN THE RATHER UNORTHODOX HOUSEHOLD OF 383 00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:23,276 MATT AND ANGELA HESTER THEY HAD ROOMMATES 384 00:22:23,276 --> 00:22:24,844 AND YOU SPOKE WITH THE ROOMMATES? 385 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:27,447 >> YEAH, WE SPOKE TO ALL THE ROOMMATES THERE. 386 00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:30,950 >> Reporter: ALL THREE ROOMMATES TO BE EXACT. 387 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:34,287 IT'S LIKE A SITCOM, EXCEPT IT'S NOT FUNNY. 388 00:22:34,287 --> 00:22:37,424 >> YEAH, OUR RELATIONSHIP IS A LITTLE WEIRD 389 00:22:37,424 --> 00:22:42,162 >> Reporter: ROOMMATE NUMBER ONE, AARON McCRAW. 390 00:22:42,162 --> 00:22:47,534 IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP YOUR SCORECARDS HANDY, BECAUSE AARON 391 00:22:47,534 --> 00:22:49,536 WAS ANGELA'S HUSBAND BEFORE SHE MARRIED MATT 392 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:55,809 NOW, HE'S HER EX, AND THE FATHER OF TWO OF HER CHILDREN 393 00:22:55,809 --> 00:23:00,547 AND AARON WAS A TENANT OF HIS EX AND HER NEXT 394 00:23:00,547 --> 00:23:02,615 THAT'S A THING IN PORTLAND >> IT WAS IN THAT HOUSE. 395 00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:04,250 >> Reporter: 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WEIRD 396 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:07,887 >> IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU SEE EVERYDAY 397 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:10,056 >> Reporter: AARON TOLD POLICE HE CRASHED AT MATT AND ANGELA'S 398 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:13,693 MOST OF THE TIME, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, WHEN HE 399 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:17,364 DIDN'T HAVE A BETTER OFFER LUCKY FOR HIM THAT THE NIGHT OF 400 00:23:17,364 --> 00:23:20,600 THE MURDER, AARON SAID, HE DID HAVE A BETTER OFFER, THAT IS 401 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,169 >> YOU WERE STAYING AT YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S 402 00:23:23,169 --> 00:23:24,771 >> I WAS >> OR WERE YOU STAYING AT HOME 403 00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:27,874 >> I WAS NOT AT HOME I WAS AT MY GIRLFRIEND'S 404 00:23:27,874 --> 00:23:30,076 >> Reporter: OKAY, SO AARON IS BASICALLY NO HELP TO YOU 405 00:23:30,076 --> 00:23:33,680 HE WASN'T THERE. >> CORRECT 406 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,317 >> Reporter: YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER AARON McCRAW. 407 00:23:37,317 --> 00:23:41,087 YOU'LL BE SEEING HIS FACE AGAIN. ROOMMATE NUMBER TWO, WHAT DOES 408 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:46,259 HE SAY >> HE WAS OUT THE EVENING OF THE 409 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:49,396 MURDER AND THAT HE CAME HOME, AND THAT HE SAW MATT AND ANGELA 410 00:23:49,396 --> 00:23:51,498 LAYING IN THEIR BED. >> Reporter: AT WHAT TIME DID HE 411 00:23:51,498 --> 00:23:53,099 SEE MATT AND ANGELA IN BED TOGETHER 412 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:55,702 >> HE THOUGHT IT WAS AROUND MIDNIGHT 413 00:23:55,702 --> 00:23:57,804 >> Reporter: AND IT WAS AROUND 11:00 P.M. THAT THE FIRST 414 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:00,407 WITNESSES SAID THEY HEARD SCREAMS COMING FROM ANNIE'S 415 00:24:00,407 --> 00:24:05,645 APARTMENT. >> CORRECT, ABOUT 11:00, 11:15 416 00:24:05,645 --> 00:24:08,948 >> Reporter: SO IF THAT ROOMMATE'S TELLIN' THE TRUTH, HE 417 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,917 ALIBIS MATT AND ANGELA AT LEAST FOR THE BEGINNING OF THAT 418 00:24:10,917 --> 00:24:12,719 ATTACK AND PRESUMABLY, IF THEY WEREN'T 419 00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:14,087 THERE AT THE BEGINNING, THEY WEREN'T THERE AT THE MIDDLE OR 420 00:24:14,087 --> 00:24:17,791 END. >> THAT'S CORRECT. 421 00:24:17,791 --> 00:24:21,561 >> Reporter: AND THERE WAS ALSO A THIRD POSSIBLE ALIBI WITNESS 422 00:24:21,561 --> 00:24:22,529 >> I -- I LIVE WITH MATT AND ANGELA 423 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:28,668 >> Reporter: A THIRD ROOMMATE. HER NAME 424 00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:31,971 KORINA WALTERS KORINA HAD BEEN ANGELA'S BEST 425 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:36,776 FRIEND SINCE HIGH SCHOOL AFTER A DIVORCE OF HER OWN, EVEN 426 00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:41,081 WITH A DECENT JOB, PORTLAND'S SOARING RENT PRICES HAD LEFT 427 00:24:41,081 --> 00:24:44,084 KORINA HOMELESS UNTIL ANGELA INVITED HER TO LIVE IN THEIR 428 00:24:44,084 --> 00:24:49,789 GARAGE SO ON THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER, 429 00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:52,759 THE FAMILY'S ONLY VEHICLE, THIS SILVER MAZDA, WAS PARKED JUST A 430 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:54,494 FEW FEET FROM WHERE KORINA SLEPT. 431 00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:57,130 >> DO YOU EVER HEAR THEM COMING AND GOING? 432 00:24:57,130 --> 00:25:00,266 >> YEAH, UH, MY -- LIKE I SAID, I LIVE IN THE GARAGE 433 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:03,470 >> UH-HUH. >> AND THE GARAGE DOOR IS REALLY 434 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:04,637 THIN, SO IF THEIR CAR STARTS UP -- I DON'T KNOW, YOU -- YOU 435 00:25:04,637 --> 00:25:06,906 HAVEN'T HEARD THEIR CAR, OF COURSE NOT 436 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:08,241 >> NO. >> UM, IT MAKES THIS REALLY 437 00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:10,543 GOD-AWFUL RATTLING NOISE WHEN IT STARTS UP. 438 00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:14,047 >> OKAY. >> AND IF THEY WERE TO GO 439 00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:17,117 ANYWHERE IT WOULD -- I'M PRETTY POSITIVE IT WOULD WAKE ME UP, 440 00:25:17,117 --> 00:25:18,718 BUT THEY NEVER GO ANYWHERE >> DID MATT LEAVE LAST NIGHT AT 441 00:25:18,718 --> 00:25:20,787 ALL? >> NO. 442 00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:23,957 >> DID ANGELA LEAVE AT ALL >> NO. 443 00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:27,627 >> Reporter: WHAT'S MORE, KORINA TOLD POLICE SHE'D USED THE 444 00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:31,297 BATHROOM BETWEEN 3:00 AND 4:00 A.M., AND ON THE WAY THERE, 445 00:25:31,297 --> 00:25:33,900 SHE HAD TO PASS BY THE BED IN THE LIVING ROOM WHERE MATT AND 446 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,570 ANGELA SLEPT >> THEY WERE ASLEEP. 447 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:39,673 ANGELA SNORES. >> IF ANGELA OR MATT WERE 448 00:25:39,673 --> 00:25:41,775 RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AND YOU KNEW IT -- 449 00:25:41,775 --> 00:25:42,809 >> I WOULD TURN THEM IN, IN A HEARTBEAT. 450 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:43,977 >> OKAY. YOU WOULDN'T PROTECT THEM IN ANY 451 00:25:43,977 --> 00:25:45,979 ASPECT >> HELL NO 452 00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:51,217 >> OKAY. >> Reporter: IN MOST POLICE 453 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:55,422 INTERVIEWS, THAT WOULD BE THAT EXCEPT IN THIS ONE, 454 00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:57,657 INVESTIGATORS KEPT GOING AND ASKED KORINA ONE MORE QUESTION, 455 00:25:57,657 --> 00:26:06,666 ONE INFORMED BY SOME DIGGING POLICE HAD ALREADY DONE. 456 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:09,102 >> ARE MATT AND ANGELA INTO THREESOMES, GROUPIES, GIRL ON 457 00:26:09,102 --> 00:26:11,204 GIRL, GUY ON GUY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR IS IT ALL PRETTY 458 00:26:11,204 --> 00:26:14,874 NORMAL >> IT'S VERY NORMAL WITH THEM. 459 00:26:14,874 --> 00:26:16,109 >> Reporter: MOST OF US HAVE OUR OWN DEFINITION OF WHAT NORMAL 460 00:26:16,109 --> 00:26:21,181 IS ANNIE HAD HER OWN. 461 00:26:21,181 --> 00:26:25,518 >> I JUST KNOW THAT THE GUY SHE IS SEEING WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP, 462 00:26:25,518 --> 00:26:29,589 AND SHE, ANN, WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH OF THEM 463 00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:30,857 THE GUY AND THE GIRL >> SO ANN WAS, UH, DATING BOTH 464 00:26:30,857 --> 00:26:33,259 THE FEMALE AND THE MALE? >> CORRECT 465 00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:37,530 >> Reporter: THE CIRCLE OF THOSE CLOSEST TO ANNIE WAS WIDENING. 466 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:43,269 AND, OH YES, THERE WAS ONE MORE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED 467 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:45,338 PIRATES. >>> COMING UP -- 468 00:26:45,338 --> 00:26:49,075 >> Reporter: PIRATES LOVE KNIVES 469 00:26:49,075 --> 00:26:51,111 >> I'VE HEARD. >> AND THE SUSPECT POOL WAS 470 00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:54,781 ABOUT TO EXPLODE >> WE LEARNED THAT ANNIE 471 00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:56,916 PARTICIPATED IN PIRATE PARTIES OR DUNGEON PARTIES 472 00:26:56,916 --> 00:26:59,519 >> Reporter: SO WE'RE WAY PAST LOVE TRIANGLE HERE 473 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,189 THIS IS LIKE LOVE TRAPEZOID. >> LOVE SPIDER WEB, YES. 474 00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:03,690 >> LOVE SPIDER WEB, YES. >> WHEN DATELINE CONTINUES 475 00:27:20,573 --> 00:27:24,778 THE MURDER OF ANNIE HESTER, GRESHAM, OREGON, POLICE 476 00:27:24,778 --> 00:27:28,481 DETECTIVE AARON TURNAGE SOON FOUND HIMSELF IN A PLETHORA OF 477 00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:32,652 POLYAMORY. AND THE MORE WITNESSES HIS TEAM 478 00:27:32,652 --> 00:27:34,754 TALKED WITH, THE DEEPER POLICE FOUND THEMSELVES IN THE RABBIT 479 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:38,958 HOLE THAT WAS ANNIE'S PERSONAL LIFE 480 00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:43,163 BECAUSE MAYBE THE DEVIL WAS IN THE DETAILS. 481 00:27:43,163 --> 00:27:46,833 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN MURDER INVESTIGATIONS IS THAT 482 00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:50,503 EVERYBODY'S SECRETS GET LAID BARE 483 00:27:50,503 --> 00:27:53,740 DID ANYTHING THAT CAME OUT ABOUT ANNIE SHOCK YOU? 484 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:59,446 >> NO, I KNEW MOST OF IT ALREADY. 485 00:27:59,446 --> 00:28:01,514 SHE SHARED PLENTY OF DETAILS AND INFORMATION WITH ME THAT I 486 00:28:01,514 --> 00:28:04,684 DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO KNOW BUT IT'S LIKE, "OKAY, COOL." 487 00:28:04,684 --> 00:28:08,888 SHE FELT LIKE SHE COULD TELL ME PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING, AND SHE 488 00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:12,225 TOLD ME A LOT. >> Reporter: POLICE SOON LEARNED 489 00:28:12,225 --> 00:28:16,229 ANNIE EXPLORED THE FULL POLYAMORY EXPERIENCE 490 00:28:16,229 --> 00:28:19,733 MULTIPLE RELATIONSHIPS MULTIPLE PARTNERS. 491 00:28:19,733 --> 00:28:23,570 SHE WASN'T SHY ABOUT IT OR ASHAMED. 492 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:28,842 AND WHILE INVESTIGATORS DID HAVE TO EXPLORE SOME PREVIOUSLY 493 00:28:28,842 --> 00:28:32,545 UNHEARD OF, KINKY FETISHES, THE PRIMARY RESULT OF LEARNING ABOUT 494 00:28:32,545 --> 00:28:37,350 ANNIE'S PRIVATE LIFE WAS THAT DETECTIVES HAD MORE AND MORE 495 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:39,886 LEADS TO CHASE DOWN. SO SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH A 496 00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:42,555 COUPLE, A MAN AND A WOMAN, AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE. 497 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:44,124 >> CORRECT >> Reporter: AND SHE WAS IN THAT 498 00:28:44,124 --> 00:28:47,260 KINK WORLD >> CORRECT 499 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:51,464 >> Reporter: AND SHE HAD AN EX WITH WHOM SHE SHARED A CHILD 500 00:28:51,464 --> 00:28:54,100 SO WE'RE WAY PAST LOVE TRIANGLE HERE 501 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,771 THIS IS, LIKE, LOVE TRAPEZOID. THIS IS, LIKE, LOVE RHOMBUS. 502 00:28:57,771 --> 00:28:58,905 >> LOVE SPIDER WEB, YES. >> Reporter: AND YOU GOTTA TALK 503 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:03,243 TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE? >> CORRECT 504 00:29:03,243 --> 00:29:05,145 >> Reporter: THE FIRST PEOPLE ON THE LIST 505 00:29:05,145 --> 00:29:08,281 THAT POLYAMOROUS COUPLE WITH WHOM ANNIE HAD HAD A 506 00:29:08,281 --> 00:29:11,418 RELATIONSHIP THEY ASKED US NOT TO SHOW THEIR 507 00:29:11,418 --> 00:29:15,088 FACES. THEY LIVED 90 MINUTES SOUTH OF 508 00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:17,724 PORTLAND AND WERE PART OF A GROUP ANNIE BELONGED TO AND 509 00:29:17,724 --> 00:29:21,928 LOVED. A GROUP THAT TOOK PART IN 510 00:29:21,928 --> 00:29:26,166 ROLE-PLAY AS PIRATES >> HONESTLY, I WAS UNAWARE THAT 511 00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:28,268 PIRATE THINGS WERE A THING >> Reporter: WAIT A MINUTE 512 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:31,705 SO THEY ALL GOT TOGETHER AND DRESSED UP AS PIRATES? 513 00:29:31,705 --> 00:29:34,574 >> THEY DID. AND ANNIE WAS A PART OF THAT 514 00:29:34,574 --> 00:29:36,643 YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THEIR LIVES 515 00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:39,279 AS PIRATES SO WE HAD TO EXPLORE THAT A 516 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:42,949 LITTLE BIT >> Reporter: AND INVESTIGATORS 517 00:29:42,949 --> 00:29:46,119 DID EXPLORE THAT, KEEPING IN MIND HOW ANNIE HAD BEEN STABBED 518 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:51,958 TO DEATH WITH THREE DIFFERENT KNIVES 519 00:29:51,958 --> 00:29:54,060 PIRATES LOVE KNIVES. >> I'VE HEARD THERE'S A SUBSET 520 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:57,230 OF THE PIRATE WORLD THAT DEALS WITH -- 521 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:58,798 IT'S A KINK OR A SEXUAL WORLD. SO PEOPLE WILL TAKE KNIVES, AND 522 00:29:58,798 --> 00:30:05,005 THEY WILL USE THEM DURING SEX ACTS 523 00:30:05,005 --> 00:30:08,141 WE LEARNED THAT ANNIE PARTICIPATED IN PIRATE PARTIES 524 00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:12,846 OR DUNGEON PARTIES AND COLLECTIVELY, WHEN WE SPOKE 525 00:30:12,846 --> 00:30:15,949 TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR ANNIE WAS NOT INTO 526 00:30:15,949 --> 00:30:17,584 THE KNIFE PLAY THAT BECAME PRETTY RELEVANT 527 00:30:17,584 --> 00:30:20,220 PRETTY QUICKLY SHE HAD DABBLED IN IT, BUT IT 528 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:24,290 WASN'T HER THING >> Reporter: WHAT'S MORE 529 00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:26,092 DETECTIVES SOON LEARNED THAT HUSBAND AND WIFE ANNIE HAD BEEN 530 00:30:26,092 --> 00:30:29,896 SEEING HAD BROKEN UP WITH HER SIX WEEKS BEFORE THE MURDER. 531 00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:32,832 THERE HAD BEEN TEARS BUT NO HARD FEELINGS 532 00:30:32,832 --> 00:30:35,969 THAT COUPLE HAD AN ALIBI FOR THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER? 533 00:30:35,969 --> 00:30:39,172 >> THEY HAD AN ALIBI THEY WERE QUICKLY ELIMINATED 534 00:30:39,172 --> 00:30:40,674 FROM SUSPICION IN THIS CASE. >> Reporter: DETECTIVES WERE NOT 535 00:30:40,674 --> 00:30:43,810 JUST LOOKING INTO ANNIE'S PERSONAL LIFE. 536 00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:48,048 THEY ALSO HAD TO CONSIDER WHERE THE CRIME OCCURRED 537 00:30:48,048 --> 00:30:51,685 THE KILLER HAD ENTERED BY SCALING A FENCE, THEN STANDING 538 00:30:51,685 --> 00:30:53,253 ON A CINDER BLOCK TO REMOVE AN AIR CONDITIONER, THEN CLIMBING 539 00:30:53,253 --> 00:30:58,525 INTO A WINDOW IN THE BACK OF ANNIE'S APARTMENT. 540 00:30:58,525 --> 00:31:02,862 JUST BEYOND THAT FENCE, THERE WAS A SIDEWALK, A BUSY ROAD. 541 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:07,500 AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, A HEAVILY TRAVELED PATH 542 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:10,103 CALLED THE SPRINGWATER TRAIL HOW LONG BEFORE YOU GUYS ARE OUT 543 00:31:10,103 --> 00:31:12,339 WALKIN' THE TRAIL? >> IMMEDIATELY 544 00:31:12,339 --> 00:31:16,910 IT'S ONE OF OUR FIRST SEARCHES THAT WE DO WITH A LOT OF 545 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:19,079 SEARCHERS OVER SEVERAL DAYS. >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE 546 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,648 WONDERED, "COULD THIS HAVE BEEN A RANDOM KILLING 547 00:31:21,648 --> 00:31:26,319 A ROBBERY? AFTER ALL, ON THAT 911 CALL 548 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,557 ANNIE MADE BEFORE SHE DIED, SHE'D SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES 549 00:31:30,557 --> 00:31:33,193 THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW HER KILLER. >> DID YOU RECOGNIZE THIS PERSON 550 00:31:33,193 --> 00:31:36,329 AT ALL >> NO. 551 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,398 >> WE HAD THOUGHT, LIKE, MAYBE A TRANSIENT. 552 00:31:38,398 --> 00:31:43,670 OR SHE LIVED RIGHT OFF OF THE SPRINGWATER TRAIL. 553 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:46,439 LOTS OF HOMELESS >> Reporter: THIS IS 554 00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:49,943 KORINA WALTERS, ANGELA'S BEST FRIEND WHO LIVED IN THE GARAGE 555 00:31:49,943 --> 00:31:52,145 AT MATT AND ANGELA'S PLACE, WHO TOLD POLICE SHE WOULD DEFINITELY 556 00:31:52,145 --> 00:31:54,214 HAVE HEARD THE FAMILY'S SILVER MAZDA PULL AWAY IF IT HAD BEEN 557 00:31:54,214 --> 00:32:00,453 TAKEN FROM THE DRIVEWAY THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER. 558 00:32:00,453 --> 00:32:04,591 SHE SAYS THE "RANDOM ROBBER FROM THE TRAIL" ANGLE WAS THE 559 00:32:04,591 --> 00:32:07,260 PREVAILING THEORY OVER AT THEIR PLACE. 560 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:09,362 >> THAT WAS HONESTLY WHAT WE THOUGHT. 561 00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:13,600 THE AIR CONDITIONER HAD BEEN REMOVED. 562 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,937 SOMEBODY CAME IN, KILLED HER, TOOK A BUNCH OF STUFF, AND LEFT. 563 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:20,440 >> Reporter: SO WAS THAT WHAT HAD HAPPENED 564 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,077 IT WAS A THEORY THE DETECTIVE HAD TO CONSIDER. 565 00:32:24,077 --> 00:32:26,680 >> THIS COULD'VE BEEN A ROBBERY OR A BURGLARY GONE BAD 566 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,349 ANNIE MIGHT'VE BEEN COLLATERAL DAMAGE IN A ROBBERY. 567 00:32:29,349 --> 00:32:31,551 >> Reporter: OKAY. BUT A BURGLAR DOESN'T STAB YOU 568 00:32:31,551 --> 00:32:35,155 THAT MANY TIMES AND CARVE MYSTERIOUS LETTERS INTO YOU. 569 00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,490 >> YEAH, NOT TYPICALLY I WOULD AGREE, NOT TYPICALLY 570 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:39,859 IS IT OUTSIDE THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY? 571 00:32:39,859 --> 00:32:42,996 NO, IT'S NOT >> Reporter: ANYTHING MISSING 572 00:32:42,996 --> 00:32:47,000 FROM THE APARTMENT >> NOT THAT WE COULD TELL. 573 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,768 ALL THE BIG STUFF THAT YOU WOULD GO FOR, THE JEWELRY, THE PHONES, 574 00:32:48,768 --> 00:32:53,540 THE WALLET, THE PURSE, ALL THAT STUFF WAS STILL THERE. 575 00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:55,241 SO WE WERE PRETTY QUICKLY ABLE TO RULE OUT THE IDEA OF A 576 00:32:55,241 --> 00:32:58,778 BOTCHED BURGLARY OR A BOTCHED ROBBERY. 577 00:32:58,778 --> 00:33:02,615 >> Reporter: NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE THE WAY ANNIE DID. 578 00:33:02,615 --> 00:33:06,753 AND NO MATTER WHICH TRAILS OR AVENUES DETECTIVES EXPLORED, 579 00:33:06,753 --> 00:33:09,322 THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY OF THE CHOICES ANNIE MADE IN HER 580 00:33:09,322 --> 00:33:14,527 PERSONAL LIFE OR ANYWHERE ELSE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER 581 00:33:14,527 --> 00:33:21,334 DEATH. EXCEPT MAYBE IN ONE AREA 582 00:33:21,334 --> 00:33:22,902 HER CHOICE OF FRIENDS. >>> COMING UP -- 583 00:33:22,902 --> 00:33:26,606 MATT ISSUES A CHALLENGE TO DETECTIVES 584 00:33:26,606 --> 00:33:28,174 >> IF YOU THOUGHT I DID IT, YOU WOULD CHARGE ME. 585 00:33:28,174 --> 00:33:49,195 >> NO, NOT NECESSARILY >> I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER 586 00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:50,797 >> Reporter: ABOUT 12 HOURS AFTER POLICE FIRST INTERVIEWED 587 00:33:50,797 --> 00:33:54,968 ANNIE HESTER'S EX-HUSBAND MATT AND HIS CURRENT WIFE ANGELA THE 588 00:33:54,968 --> 00:33:59,205 COUPLE WAS BACK AT THE GRESHAM POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A LATE 589 00:33:59,205 --> 00:34:01,775 NIGHT, ROUND TWO MATT WAS STILL DISPLAYING 590 00:34:01,775 --> 00:34:06,046 DIFFICULTY WALKING FROM THOSE UNEXPLAINED MEDICAL PROBLEMS 591 00:34:06,046 --> 00:34:08,214 HE'D TOLD POLICE ABOUT DETECTIVE TURNAGE THOUGHT THEY 592 00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:15,388 REPRESENTED SOMETHING OTHER THAN ILLNESS. 593 00:34:15,388 --> 00:34:16,890 YOU'RE CONVINCED THAT'S FOR YOUR BENEFIT? 594 00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:17,957 HE'S NOT ACTUALLY IN PAIN? >> I BELIEVE IT'S LAYING A 595 00:34:17,957 --> 00:34:20,160 FOUNDATION THAT HE'S INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING SUCH A VIOLENT 596 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,296 ACT, BECAUSE HE CAN BARELY MOVE ACROSS OUR WAITING ROOM. 597 00:34:23,296 --> 00:34:26,099 >> Reporter: SURE, MATT AND ANGELA HAD TWO ROOMMATES WHO'D 598 00:34:26,099 --> 00:34:29,569 ALIBIED THEM, AND SAID THEY WERE HOME DURING THE NIGHT OF ANNIE'S 599 00:34:29,569 --> 00:34:34,307 MURDER THAT DIDN'T QUITE DO IT. 600 00:34:34,307 --> 00:34:37,977 TO DETECTIVES, MATT WAS STILL A PERSON OF THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE 601 00:34:37,977 --> 00:34:42,148 INTEREST >> I MEAN OBVIOUSLY, WE GOTTA 602 00:34:42,148 --> 00:34:45,318 CONSIDER ALL POSSIBILITIES HERE. AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN TV. 603 00:34:45,318 --> 00:34:47,687 WHEN WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, Y'KNOW, EVERYBODY POINTS 604 00:34:47,687 --> 00:34:55,328 TO, "THE EX HUSBAND DID IT!" >> YEAH. 605 00:34:55,328 --> 00:34:56,863 I WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS 'CAUSE -- 'CAUSE THE -- 606 00:34:56,863 --> 00:34:57,530 >> Y'KNOW I WANNA -- >> SORRY 607 00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:00,066 THE THING I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS MY DAUGHTER. 608 00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:01,301 >> I HEAR YOU. MATT, IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO DO 609 00:35:01,301 --> 00:35:03,336 WITH ANN'S DEATH, I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW 610 00:35:03,336 --> 00:35:05,305 >> I DID NOT I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT 611 00:35:05,305 --> 00:35:07,941 WOULD ENDANGER MY CHILD. >> OKAY. 612 00:35:07,941 --> 00:35:09,509 AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT 'CAUSE THAT TELLS ME WHAT 613 00:35:09,509 --> 00:35:10,643 KINDA PARENT YOU ARE IS THERE ANY REASON I'M GONNA 614 00:35:10,643 --> 00:35:11,611 FIND YOUR DNA -- >> NO. 615 00:35:11,611 --> 00:35:14,214 >> -- INVOLVED IN THAT MURDER SCENE? 616 00:35:14,214 --> 00:35:16,416 >> NO. >> Reporter: DETECTIVES ASKED 617 00:35:16,416 --> 00:35:18,952 MATT TO TAKE OFF HIS SHIRT, KNOWING THAT IF HE'D BEEN 618 00:35:18,952 --> 00:35:24,190 INVOLVED IN SUCH A VIOLENT STABBING, HIS BODY WOULD SHOW 619 00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:28,928 SOME SIGN OF IT. THEY FOUND NOTHING 620 00:35:28,928 --> 00:35:30,530 THEN, THEY ASKED ABOUT THOSE BLOODY SHOE PRINTS PRESUMABLY 621 00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:34,701 LEFT BY THE KILLER FLEEING ANNIE'S APARTMENT. 622 00:35:34,701 --> 00:35:36,970 SOMEONE WHO WORE A SIZE 9 1/2 OR TEN. 623 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,371 >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT KINDA SHOES YOU HAVE 624 00:35:38,371 --> 00:35:40,473 ARE THEY BOOTS >> THESE ARE BOOTS, YEAH 625 00:35:40,473 --> 00:35:41,675 >> WHAT SIZE >> UH, 11 1/2 WIDE 626 00:35:41,675 --> 00:35:45,211 >> OKAY. >> Reporter: THAT DIDN'T FIT 627 00:35:45,211 --> 00:35:48,081 EITHER NONETHELESS, DETECTIVE TURNAGE 628 00:35:48,081 --> 00:35:52,085 TRIED A TACTIC YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH -- 629 00:35:52,085 --> 00:35:57,323 SUGGESTING TO MATT THAT POLICE HAD MORE THAN THEY REALLY DID, 630 00:35:57,323 --> 00:36:01,027 TRYING TO RATTLE HIM >> I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT 631 00:36:01,027 --> 00:36:03,329 MY INVESTIGATION CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR 632 00:36:03,329 --> 00:36:08,335 ANN'S DEATH, AND YOU'RE INVOLVED IN IT INTIMATELY 633 00:36:08,335 --> 00:36:09,402 THERE'S ONLY - >> WELL, THEN YOU WOULD'VE 634 00:36:09,402 --> 00:36:10,437 CHARGED ME SO - 635 00:36:10,437 --> 00:36:12,038 >> NO, NO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T - 636 00:36:12,038 --> 00:36:13,106 >> IF YOU THOUGHT I DID IT, YOU WOULD CHARGE ME -- 637 00:36:13,106 --> 00:36:14,240 >> NO, NOT NECESSARILY - >> I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER 638 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,344 DEATH. >> HE MADE THE COMMENT IN THE 639 00:36:17,344 --> 00:36:19,612 INTERVIEW, "IF YOU HAD ENOUGH ON ME, YOU WOULD ARREST ME RIGHT 640 00:36:19,612 --> 00:36:21,081 NOW. YOU KNOW, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A 641 00:36:21,081 --> 00:36:26,586 VERY, VERY ARROGANT COMMENT SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A RED 642 00:36:26,586 --> 00:36:31,658 FLAG FOR ME. >> Reporter: ALSO, DO INNOCENT 643 00:36:31,658 --> 00:36:35,362 PEOPLE SAY TO YOU HISTORICALLY, WELL, IF YOU HAD ENOUGH, YOU 644 00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:40,834 WOULD ARREST ME? >> NOT AT ALL. 645 00:36:40,834 --> 00:36:47,107 >> Reporter: THEY SAY, YOU'RE CRAZY. 646 00:36:47,107 --> 00:36:48,208 I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. I COULDN'T KILL ANYBODY. 647 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:49,743 >> THERE IS STRONG DENIALS, ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE WRONG 648 00:36:49,743 --> 00:36:50,343 PERSON THEY GET MAD, YEAH 649 00:36:50,343 --> 00:36:51,311 I WOULD EXPECT ANGER AND FRUSTRATION. 650 00:36:51,311 --> 00:36:53,079 THOSE ARE THE SIGNS OF A TRUTHFUL PERSON THAT TOLD ME AS 651 00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:54,080 THE INVESTIGATOR AND THE DETECTIVE, "I NEED TO DIG A 652 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,181 LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THIS 653 00:36:55,181 --> 00:36:57,150 CONVERSATION." >> Reporter: DOWN THE HALL, 654 00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:58,885 DETECTIVES WERE ALSO QUESTIONING MATT'S CURRENT WIFE ANGELA 655 00:36:58,885 --> 00:37:01,888 SHE WASN'T FEELING WELL, SHE SAID 656 00:37:01,888 --> 00:37:04,524 BUT SHE WAS WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANNIE'S MURDER 657 00:37:04,524 --> 00:37:10,764 >> I'M JUST GONNA KEEP MY EYES SHUT AND MY HEAD DOWN. 658 00:37:10,764 --> 00:37:12,298 >> OKAY. HOW DID IT MAKE YOU FEEL WHEN 659 00:37:12,298 --> 00:37:14,401 YOU HEARD ABOUT HER BEING KILLED 660 00:37:14,401 --> 00:37:22,809 >> SHOCKED >> UH-HUH. 661 00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:26,513 >> NON-BELIEVING UM, EXTREMELY SAD, BECAUSE ALICE 662 00:37:26,513 --> 00:37:28,615 HAD LOST HER MOM >> Reporter: THEN, AS DETECTIVES 663 00:37:28,615 --> 00:37:30,283 ONCE AGAIN TOOK ANGELA THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF ANNIE'S MURDER, 664 00:37:30,283 --> 00:37:38,058 SHE VOLUNTEERED SOMETHING THAT MADE HER INTERROGATORS SIT UP 665 00:37:38,058 --> 00:37:39,859 STRAIGHT >> DID YOU GUYS SLEEP WELL 666 00:37:39,859 --> 00:37:45,565 WHAT HAPPENED? DID YOU GET THROUGH THE NIGHT 667 00:37:45,565 --> 00:37:47,067 OR - >> FOR THE MOST PART WE SLEPT 668 00:37:47,067 --> 00:37:48,068 JUST FINE UNTIL MY DOG STARTED WHINING. 669 00:37:48,068 --> 00:37:49,636 >> Reporter: GUESS WHAT TIME ANGELA SAID THE DOGS WOKE HER 670 00:37:49,636 --> 00:37:54,307 UP REMEMBER, NEIGHBORS HEARD 671 00:37:54,307 --> 00:38:00,613 SCREAMS, AND ANNIE CALLED 911 ALL ABOUT 3:00 A.M 672 00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:02,716 >> DO YOU REMEMBER LOOKING AT A CLOCK OR - 673 00:38:02,716 --> 00:38:05,352 >> I HALF OPENED MY EYE TO LOOK AT THE CLOCK SLIGHTLY AND SEE 674 00:38:05,352 --> 00:38:07,020 THAT IT WAS AROUND 3:00. >> OKAY. 675 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:10,724 DID YOU ACTUALLY END UP HAVING TO GET OUT OF BED TO LET 'EM OUT 676 00:38:10,724 --> 00:38:12,158 OR - >> YEAH, I GOT UP AND WALKED 677 00:38:12,158 --> 00:38:14,327 DOWNSTAIRS, PUT THEIR LEASHES ON, TOOK 'EM POTTY, CAME BACK 678 00:38:14,327 --> 00:38:21,067 UPSTAIRS, PUT 'EM IN THEIR KENNELS. 679 00:38:21,067 --> 00:38:25,805 >> UH-HUH. >> AND THEN I WENT TO GO POTTY 680 00:38:25,805 --> 00:38:26,840 AND END UP -- I END UP PUKING AND [ BLEEP] 681 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,510 MYSELF AT THE SAME TIME. >> OH, THAT'S HORRIBLE 682 00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:32,212 I'M SORRY. >> AND THAT'S WHEN I CALLED MATT 683 00:38:32,212 --> 00:38:37,884 TO HELP ME, AND HE CAME AND HELPED ME. 684 00:38:37,884 --> 00:38:40,587 WE TOOK A SHOWER TO HELP GET THE POOP OFF AND RINSE SOME OF THE 685 00:38:40,587 --> 00:38:44,691 SWEAT OFF ME BECAUSE APPARENTLY I WAS SWEATING 686 00:38:44,691 --> 00:38:49,329 >> Reporter: SO NOW, ACCORDING TO ANGELA, THEY'RE BOTH 687 00:38:49,329 --> 00:38:51,498 SHOWERING AT, COINCIDENTALLY, THE TIME THE MURDER WAS 688 00:38:51,498 --> 00:38:55,702 COMMITTED. THAT'S NOT SUSPICIOUS. 689 00:38:55,702 --> 00:38:57,804 >> NO, NOT AT ALL. AND IT WASN'T SUSPICIOUS WHEN I 690 00:38:57,804 --> 00:39:03,043 SPOKE TO MATT AND ASKED MATT ABOUT THAT, AND MATT SAID HE 691 00:39:03,043 --> 00:39:05,812 WOKE UP AT 3:00 A.M. AND HEARD HER GOING TO LET THE DOGS OUT 692 00:39:05,812 --> 00:39:07,747 BUT HE NEVER GOT OUT OF BED. MATT DIDN'T REMEMBER IT, SAYS HE 693 00:39:07,747 --> 00:39:09,416 NEVER GOT OUT OF BED ANGELA'S SAYING SHE GOT OUT OF 694 00:39:09,416 --> 00:39:10,917 BED AND MATT HELPED HER TAKE A SHOWER 695 00:39:10,917 --> 00:39:14,554 SO THINGS JUST WEREN'T ADDING UP 696 00:39:14,554 --> 00:39:15,622 >> Reporter: THE FOCUS WAS NARROWING. 697 00:39:15,622 --> 00:39:19,826 ANNIE'S POLYAMOROUS RELATIONSHIPS HADN'T GENERATED 698 00:39:19,826 --> 00:39:22,462 ANY MURDEROUS RAGE HER FRIENDS IN THE PIRATE 699 00:39:22,462 --> 00:39:26,666 COMMUNITY HAD NO INTENTION OF MAKING HER WALK THE PLANK. 700 00:39:26,666 --> 00:39:30,904 AND THIS DIDN'T FEEL LIKE A BURGLARY OR SOMETHING RANDOM 701 00:39:30,904 --> 00:39:37,143 WELL, THOUGHT DETECTIVE TURNAGE, NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE. 702 00:39:37,143 --> 00:39:39,312 >>> COMING UP -- WAS MONEY BEHIND THE TUG OF WAR 703 00:39:39,312 --> 00:39:40,947 OVER LITTLE ALICE? >> IT SOUNDS LIKE MATT AND HIS 704 00:39:40,947 --> 00:39:45,585 WIFE SAW ALICE AS ALMOST LIKE AN ATM CARD 705 00:39:45,585 --> 00:40:10,643 >> YEAH, A MEAL TICKET >>HE 706 00:40:10,643 --> 00:40:13,279 >> Reporter: A WEEK AFTER ANNIE HESTER'S MURDER, FAMILY AND 707 00:40:13,279 --> 00:40:17,484 FRIENDS GATHERED TO SAY GOODBYE AT THIS FUNERAL HOME IN GRESHAM, 708 00:40:17,484 --> 00:40:20,053 OREGON AND AMONG THE MOURNERS - 709 00:40:20,053 --> 00:40:22,722 >> WE HAD TEN, 12 DETECTIVES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE 710 00:40:22,722 --> 00:40:26,926 PROPERTY THERE >> Reporter: DETECTIVES TOOK 711 00:40:26,926 --> 00:40:30,063 THIS VIDEO OF ANNIE'S FOUR YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, ALICE. 712 00:40:30,063 --> 00:40:32,165 THERE WITH HER STEPMOTHER ANGELA AND FATHER MATT. 713 00:40:32,165 --> 00:40:35,835 THE COUPLE CONSIDERED BY POLICE AND BY ANNIE'S FAMILY TO BE 714 00:40:35,835 --> 00:40:38,004 PRIME SUSPECTS >> IT HAD TO BE STRANGE TO SEE 715 00:40:38,004 --> 00:40:44,210 ALICE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY PEOPLE THAT YOU AT LEAST 716 00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:50,583 SUSPECTED OF POSSIBLY HAVING SOME INVOLVEMENT IN HER MURDER 717 00:40:50,583 --> 00:40:54,688 >> IT WAS HARD KNOWING THAT SHE WAS WITH SOMEBODY THAT WE DIDN'T 718 00:40:54,688 --> 00:40:59,926 WANT HER TO BE WITH AND THERE WAS VERY LITTLE THAT WE COULD DO 719 00:40:59,926 --> 00:41:03,063 AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT JUST HOPE THAT SHE'S SAFE. 720 00:41:03,063 --> 00:41:07,267 >> Reporter: INSIDE THE CHAPEL MORE DETECTIVES. 721 00:41:07,267 --> 00:41:11,071 INCLUDING ONE UNDERCOVER OFFICER WHO SAT RIGHT NEXT TO MATT AND 722 00:41:11,071 --> 00:41:15,542 ANGELA, AND WHO MADE A GAME-CHANGING OBSERVATION. 723 00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:20,914 >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE DETECTIVE NOTICED ON THE BACK OF 724 00:41:20,914 --> 00:41:25,118 ANGELA'S RIGHT HAND SHE HAS -- ABOUT A ONE AND A HALF INCH CUT 725 00:41:25,118 --> 00:41:29,322 ON THE, YOU KNOW, TOPSIDE OF THE WEBBING BETWEEN THE THUMB AND 726 00:41:29,322 --> 00:41:32,492 THE INDEX FINGER >> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS WHO'D 727 00:41:32,492 --> 00:41:37,664 SO FAR FOCUSED MORE ON MATT, NOW HAD ANOTHER DIRECTION. 728 00:41:37,664 --> 00:41:39,299 DID SEEING ANGELA WITH THAT CUT ON HER HAND AT THE FUNERAL 729 00:41:39,299 --> 00:41:42,969 CHANGE THE LEVEL OF SUSPICION THAT SHE WAS UNDER 730 00:41:42,969 --> 00:41:46,773 >> ABSOLUTELY IT DID >> Reporter: SO THEN WHAT WOULD 731 00:41:46,773 --> 00:41:48,875 MAKE ANGELA ANGRY ENOUGH, TO DRIVE ACROSS TOWN IN THE MIDDLE 732 00:41:48,875 --> 00:41:55,115 OF THE NIGHT AND TORTURE ANNIE FOR HOURS BEFORE KILLING HER 733 00:41:55,115 --> 00:41:59,786 AND, HOW WOULD ANGELA AND PRESUMABLY MATT, BENEFIT FROM 734 00:41:59,786 --> 00:42:10,296 ANNIE'S DEATH? WELL, THEREIN, LIES A TALE 735 00:42:10,296 --> 00:42:12,899 POLICE SOON FOUND OUT THAT MATT AND ANNIE HAD AN AMICABLE 736 00:42:12,899 --> 00:42:15,068 DIVORCE. IN 2012, AND SHARED CUSTODY OF 737 00:42:15,068 --> 00:42:16,569 ALICE. MATT PAID ABOUT TWO-HUNDRED 738 00:42:16,569 --> 00:42:18,672 DOLLARS A MONTH IN CHILD SUPPORT. 739 00:42:18,672 --> 00:42:22,876 TWO YEARS LATER, WHEN MATT MET ANGELA AND THEY MARRIED, THE 740 00:42:22,876 --> 00:42:28,148 GOOD RELATIONSHIP CONTINUED. KORINA WALTERS, WHO LIVED WITH 741 00:42:28,148 --> 00:42:29,816 MATT AND ANGELA. >> LIKE, THEY ALL HAD THIS GREAT 742 00:42:29,816 --> 00:42:33,420 RELATIONSHIP ALL TOGETHER. LIKE, WE TOOK VACATIONS 743 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:36,723 TOGETHER >> Reporter: WHAT CHANGED? 744 00:42:36,723 --> 00:42:38,158 >> I'M NOT 100%. BUT LIKE THE ONLY CATALYST THAT 745 00:42:38,158 --> 00:42:39,726 I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER IS THAT ANNIE WANTED HER MOM TO 746 00:42:39,726 --> 00:42:44,230 WATCH ALICE MORE OFTEN AND MATT DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP 747 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:46,733 THAT TIME. >> Reporter: THAT DOESN'T SEEM 748 00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:53,540 LIKE A HUGE ISSUE, BUT IT PROVOKED A HUGE PROBLEM. 749 00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:54,774 >> YEAH, SO THEN THERE ENDED UP BEING THE 'CUSTODY' WORD LIKE 750 00:42:54,774 --> 00:42:57,243 BEING THROWN BACK AND FORTH. >> Reporter: AS OFTEN HAPPENS, A 751 00:42:57,243 --> 00:43:02,482 TUG OF WAR INVOLVING A CHILD ENDED UP IN COURT. 752 00:43:02,482 --> 00:43:09,322 WAS THE CUSTODY BATTLE NASTY >> IT GOT PRETTY NASTY 753 00:43:09,322 --> 00:43:11,424 >> IT GOT BAD. >> Reporter: HOW BAD? 754 00:43:11,424 --> 00:43:19,632 ANGELA SOON CALLED OREGON'S DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES TO 755 00:43:19,632 --> 00:43:20,867 REPORT ANNIE FOR CHILD NEGLECT IN RESPONSE, ANNIE SENT THIS 756 00:43:20,867 --> 00:43:23,503 EMAIL TO A FRIEND, WRITING - AND I'LL PARAPHRASE -- I JUST 757 00:43:23,503 --> 00:43:26,639 CANNOT COMPREHEND WHAT I DID TO DESERVE THIS LEVEL OF -- IN MY 758 00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:31,344 LIFE I AM SOOOOOO DONE DEALING WITH 759 00:43:31,344 --> 00:43:41,388 THIS --" THE STATE FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF 760 00:43:41,388 --> 00:43:42,222 NEGLECT. THEN, ANGELA STARTED TAKING A 761 00:43:42,222 --> 00:43:43,490 LARGER ROLE IN THE CHILD EXCHANGES AFTER MATT SUDDENLY 762 00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:49,162 CLAIMED TO REMEMBER THAT ANNIE HAD ABUSED HIM DURING THEIR 763 00:43:49,162 --> 00:43:50,263 MARRIAGE THAT SEEM REASONABLE TO YOU? 764 00:43:50,263 --> 00:43:51,731 >> NO, IT WASN'T AND REALLY WHAT IT WAS WAS THEY 765 00:43:51,731 --> 00:43:55,001 WERE TRYING TO BUILD THIS CASE SO THAT MATT COULD GET ALICE 766 00:43:55,001 --> 00:43:58,638 >> Reporter: MATT STOPPED PAYING CHILD SUPPORT. 767 00:43:58,638 --> 00:44:00,707 AND ANNIE, WHO FRIENDS SAID HAD INITIALLY SOUGHT A RESOLUTION 768 00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:07,047 EVERYONE COULD LIVE WITH, NOW DUG IN HER HEELS 769 00:44:07,047 --> 00:44:17,524 IN AN E-MAIL, ANNIE CALLED MATT "ANTAGONISTIC, UNCOOPERATIVE." 770 00:44:17,524 --> 00:44:18,658 AND MORE AS DETECTIVES DUG DEEPER INTO 771 00:44:18,658 --> 00:44:19,826 THE CASE FILE THEY DISCOVERED ONE POSSIBLE REASON MATT AND 772 00:44:19,826 --> 00:44:24,864 ANGELA SEEMED DESPERATE TO GAIN CUSTODY OF ALICE 773 00:44:24,864 --> 00:44:28,468 AND IT WAS THIS -- NEITHER MATT NOR ANGELA, HAD A JOB. 774 00:44:28,468 --> 00:44:30,637 >> MATT SAID HE CONSIDERED HIMSELF A, "PROFESSIONAL 775 00:44:30,637 --> 00:44:33,773 PARENT." HE AND ANGELA RECEIVED BENEFITS 776 00:44:33,773 --> 00:44:37,444 FROM THEIR CHILDREN. THEIR CHILDREN HAD BEEN 777 00:44:37,444 --> 00:44:40,880 DIAGNOSED WITH VARIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS WHICH GET STATE 778 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,750 BENEFITS OR PAYOUTS. SO THEY REAP THOSE BENEFITS TO 779 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:46,886 THE SUM OF APPROXIMATELY $2,000 A MONTH TOTAL 780 00:44:46,886 --> 00:44:50,557 AND THAT IS THEIR PAYMENT FOR BEING PROFESSIONAL PARENTS 781 00:44:50,557 --> 00:44:54,294 >> Reporter: AND IF MATT AND ANGELA SAW CHILDREN, AS A MEANS 782 00:44:54,294 --> 00:44:57,364 OF EARNING MONEY, WHAT WOULD GAINING CUSTODY OF ALICE MEAN 783 00:44:57,364 --> 00:45:00,033 FOR THEM WELL, DETECTIVES SOON FOUND OUT 784 00:45:00,033 --> 00:45:06,272 THE COUPLE SEEMED TO HAVE PLANS FOR ALICE, TOO 785 00:45:06,272 --> 00:45:07,841 A COURT ORDERED CUSTODY EVALUATION FOUND OUT THAT 786 00:45:07,841 --> 00:45:09,442 3-YEAR-OLD ALICE WAS HAVING SOME TROUBLE ADJUSTING TO GOING BACK 787 00:45:09,442 --> 00:45:10,477 AND FORTH BETWEEN TWO HOUSEHOLDS 788 00:45:10,477 --> 00:45:14,147 THAT'S COMMON FOR CHILDREN OF DIVORCE. 789 00:45:14,147 --> 00:45:24,691 MATT AND ANGELA BOTH SAID THEY BELIEVED ALICE'S BEHAVIORAL 790 00:45:24,691 --> 00:45:25,759 PROBLEMS COULD BE RELATED TO BIPOLAR DISORDER. 791 00:45:25,759 --> 00:45:26,960 ANNIE'S LAWYERS SUGGESTED IN COURT FILINGS IT WAS ALL PART OF 792 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,565 A SCHEME -- MORE CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES EQUALED MORE MONEY 793 00:45:32,565 --> 00:45:40,473 FROM THE STATE IT SOUNDS LIKE MATT AND HIS WIFE 794 00:45:40,473 --> 00:45:41,708 SAW ALICE LESS AS HIS DAUGHTER, AND MORE AS ALMOST LIKE AN ATM 795 00:45:41,708 --> 00:45:42,509 CARD >> YEAH, A MEAL TICKET 796 00:45:42,509 --> 00:45:45,378 I MEAN, THAT WAS THE WORD THAT WAS THROWN AROUND AT THE TIME. 797 00:45:45,378 --> 00:45:47,914 >> Reporter: IN THE END, A JUDGE HAD NO DOUBTS ABOUT WHO WAS THE 798 00:45:47,914 --> 00:45:51,551 BETTER PARENT. SIX MONTHS BEFORE HER MURDER, 799 00:45:51,551 --> 00:45:54,721 ANNIE WAS AWARDED FULL CUSTODY OF ALICE 800 00:45:54,721 --> 00:46:00,927 MATT GOT SOMETHING TOO A BILL 801 00:46:00,927 --> 00:46:03,029 $29,000 IN COURT AND LAWYERS FEES 802 00:46:03,029 --> 00:46:06,166 AND ABOUT 13 THOUSAND IN BACK CHILD SUPPORT. 803 00:46:06,166 --> 00:46:11,905 THE TOTAL, A LITTLE MORE THAN $42,000. 804 00:46:11,905 --> 00:46:13,473 DID ANNIE EVER EXPECT TO SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY? 805 00:46:13,473 --> 00:46:15,575 >> NOT REALLY, 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T WORK 806 00:46:15,575 --> 00:46:17,811 >> Reporter: AND IF THINGS COULD GET WORSE FOR MATT, THEY SOON 807 00:46:17,811 --> 00:46:19,813 DID. IN OREGON, ONE OF THE PENALTIES 808 00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:25,051 FOR NOT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT IS LOSING YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE. 809 00:46:25,051 --> 00:46:30,824 THEN, A MONTH BEFORE ANNIE'S MURDER, A WARRANT WAS ISSUED FOR 810 00:46:30,824 --> 00:46:35,061 MATT'S ARREST. WHAT WAS THE REACTION TO THAT IN 811 00:46:35,061 --> 00:46:45,505 THE HOUSE YOU WERE LIVING IN >> A LOT OF BANGING AND A LOT OF 812 00:46:45,505 --> 00:46:47,073 SCREAMING AND ANGELA WAS CRYING ABOUT HOW THE F'ING COURTS 813 00:46:47,073 --> 00:46:48,274 DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE F'ING TALKING ABOUT AND HOW ARE WE 814 00:46:48,274 --> 00:46:49,209 GONNA PAY THIS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS WEIRD, WAS 815 00:46:49,209 --> 00:46:54,314 MATT'S REACTION. BECAUSE THERE WAS NONE 816 00:46:54,314 --> 00:46:57,350 THERE WAS NOTHING. HE WASN'T EVEN -- IT WAS LIKE HE 817 00:46:57,350 --> 00:47:01,154 WASN'T EVEN PAYING ATTENTION >> Reporter: REALLY? 818 00:47:01,154 --> 00:47:02,389 ANGELA WAS FURIOUS HE WAS LIKE 'WHATEVER? 819 00:47:02,389 --> 00:47:04,224 >> YEAH THAT BOTHERED ME THIS TO ME WAS A DAD WHO GAVE UP, WHO 820 00:47:04,224 --> 00:47:06,359 DIDN'T CARE ANYMORE. >> Reporter: WELL -- IF MATT 821 00:47:06,359 --> 00:47:09,429 DIDN'T CARE, ANGELA SEEMED TO CARE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR BOTH 822 00:47:09,429 --> 00:47:13,166 OF THEM. IN FACT, THE DAY OF THE COURT 823 00:47:13,166 --> 00:47:20,440 JUDGMENT, ANGELA MADE A REMARK KORINA WON'T FORGET. 824 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,841 AT ONE POINT ANGELA SAYS 'IF I KILLED HER, NOBODY WOULD EVEN 825 00:47:21,841 --> 00:47:23,643 MISS HER >> YEAH AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY 826 00:47:23,643 --> 00:47:30,150 YOU'RE MAD, YOU'RE ANGRY I GET IT 827 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:31,818 >> Reporter: IT'S INFLAMMATORY IT'S A STUPID THING TO SAY 828 00:47:31,818 --> 00:47:32,786 BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY SOMEBODY PLOTTING A CRIME 829 00:47:32,786 --> 00:47:33,820 >> NO. JUST THOUGHT SHE WAS MAD 830 00:47:33,820 --> 00:47:37,057 >> Reporter: JUST BLOWING OFF STEAM. 831 00:47:37,057 --> 00:47:43,296 NO REASON FOR KORINA TO CALL POLICE OR MENTION IT TO ANNIE. 832 00:47:43,296 --> 00:47:48,535 WAS THERE? >> COMING UP - 833 00:47:48,535 --> 00:47:53,239 A KILLER'S CAR CAUGHT ON CAMERA. >> NO QUESTION THAT'S MATT AND 834 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,974 ANGELA'S SUV >> NO QUESTION 835 00:47:54,974 --> 00:47:56,176 SOMEBODY FROM THAT HOUSE LEFT THAT HOME TO COMMIT THE MURDER 836 00:47:56,176 --> 00:47:57,610 AND THEN RETURNED TO THAT HOME AFTER THE MURDER 837 00:47:57,610 --> 00:47:58,812 >> CAN YOU TELL WHO'S DRIVING? >> NO. 838 00:48:18,531 --> 00:48:20,300 DETECTIVE, AARON TURNAGE AND HIS TEAM HAD SOLID SUSPICIONS ABOUT 839 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:23,436 MATT AND ANGELA HESTER'S POSSIBLE ROLES IN THE MURDER OF 840 00:48:23,436 --> 00:48:24,571 ANNIE HESTER THEY ALSO HAD NO SOLID EVIDENCE. 841 00:48:24,571 --> 00:48:31,811 THAT WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE, STARTING WITH A SEARCH FOR 842 00:48:31,811 --> 00:48:38,685 SECURITY VIDEO THAT NIGHT AROUND THEIR HOME 843 00:48:38,685 --> 00:48:42,689 JUST BEFORE 11:00 P.M. OH -- LOOK AT THAT 844 00:48:42,689 --> 00:48:46,559 >> THEIR NEIGHBOR HAD A VIDEO CAMERA THAT RECORDED THE STREET 845 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,762 IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. THAT CAMERA CAPTURED A LIGHT 846 00:48:48,762 --> 00:48:56,069 COLORED OR SILVER SUV, UH, COMING OUT OF THE AREA OF MATT 847 00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:59,673 AND ANGELA'S DRIVEWAY. >> Reporter: THERE IT WAS. 848 00:48:59,673 --> 00:49:01,775 NO QUESTION THAT'S MATT AND ANGELA'S SUV 849 00:49:01,775 --> 00:49:03,443 >> THERE'S NO QUESTION >> Reporter: CAN YOU TELL WHO'S 850 00:49:03,443 --> 00:49:05,545 DRIVING? >> WE CAN'T TELL WHO'S DRIVING, 851 00:49:05,545 --> 00:49:07,113 NO >> Reporter: SO THIS ISN'T LIKE 852 00:49:07,113 --> 00:49:09,582 TV WHERE YOU CAN BLOW IT UP AND SEE EXACTLY WHO IT IS. 853 00:49:09,582 --> 00:49:12,786 >> ENHANCE, ENHANCE, ENHANCE, ZOOM 854 00:49:12,786 --> 00:49:15,922 NO, IT'S NOT LIKE TELEVISION >> Reporter: STILL, FOR 855 00:49:15,922 --> 00:49:23,029 INVESTIGATORS, THIS WAS ASTOUNDING, BECAUSE THAT SILVER 856 00:49:23,029 --> 00:49:24,898 MAZDA SUV HAD A CAMEO ON EACH OF NINE MORE CAMERAS ON ITS WAY 857 00:49:24,898 --> 00:49:31,705 ACROSS PORTLAND TO THE SUBURB OF GRESHAM. 858 00:49:31,705 --> 00:49:34,908 >> VIDEO CAMERAS ESSENTIALLY CAPTURED THAT CAR ALL THE WAY TO 859 00:49:34,908 --> 00:49:39,546 THE DRIVEWAY OF ANNIE'S APARTMENT. 860 00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:46,353 >> Reporter: THE TRIP TOOK 26 MINUTES, PUTTING THE SILVER 861 00:49:46,353 --> 00:49:51,091 MAZDA AT ANNIE'S AT 11:23 P.M. RIGHT AROUND THE TIME NEIGHBORS 862 00:49:51,091 --> 00:49:58,965 REPORTED HEARING SCREAMS THEN, ABOUT FOUR HOURS LATER, 863 00:49:58,965 --> 00:50:06,306 ABOUT 3:00 A.M., THE TIME OF ANNIE'S 911 CALL REPORTING HER 864 00:50:06,306 --> 00:50:07,907 ATTACKER HAD JUST LEFT DO YOU SEE THAT SILVER MAZDA 865 00:50:07,907 --> 00:50:08,708 RETURNING TO MATT AND ANGELA'S HOUSE? 866 00:50:08,708 --> 00:50:09,476 >> WE DO WE WERE ABLE TO FOLLOW IT 867 00:50:09,476 --> 00:50:10,610 ESSENTIALLY RIGHT BACK TO THE VERY FIRST CAMERA THAT WE 868 00:50:10,610 --> 00:50:12,612 STARTED WITH AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. 869 00:50:12,612 --> 00:50:16,282 >> Reporter: THE DRIVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, TURNED OFF THE 870 00:50:16,282 --> 00:50:25,759 HEADLIGHTS BEFORE STOPPING APPARENTLY, TRYING TO SNEAK THE 871 00:50:25,759 --> 00:50:26,960 MAZDA BACK INTO ITS DRIVEWAY WELL, THERE GO MATT AND ANGELA'S 872 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,128 ALIBIS >> INDEED. 873 00:50:28,128 --> 00:50:29,295 >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU THINKIN' WHEN YOU'RE LOOKIN' AT 874 00:50:29,295 --> 00:50:31,264 THAT VIDEO >> I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO 875 00:50:31,264 --> 00:50:32,565 THE KILLER IS, BUT SOMEBODY FROM THAT HOUSE LEFT THAT HOME TO 876 00:50:32,565 --> 00:50:36,269 COMMIT THE MURDER AND THEN RETURNED TO THAT HOME AFTER THE 877 00:50:36,269 --> 00:50:39,939 MURDER >> Reporter: SO THEN WHAT ABOUT 878 00:50:39,939 --> 00:50:44,110 THAT ALIBI GIVEN BY ANGELA'S BEST FRIEND, KORINA, WHO SAID 879 00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:45,578 FROM HER BED IN THE GARAGE SHE WAS CERTAIN SHE WOULD HAVE HEARD 880 00:50:45,578 --> 00:50:46,780 A VEHICLE START UP AND DRIVE AWAY 881 00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:51,918 >> I THINK THAT WHEN THEY PULLED OUT, THEY DIDN'T START THE CAR 882 00:50:51,918 --> 00:50:53,053 >> Reporter: HOW DID YOU MISS IT 883 00:50:53,053 --> 00:50:57,791 HOW DID YOU NOT HEAR IT? >> I DON'T KNOW. 884 00:50:57,791 --> 00:51:00,393 HOW COULD I HAVE NOT KNOWN IF I HAD KNOWN, I COULD HAVE 885 00:51:00,393 --> 00:51:03,563 DONE SOMETHING IF I HAD EVEN REMOTELY THOUGHT, 886 00:51:03,563 --> 00:51:05,765 I COULD'VE DONE SOMETHING. >> Reporter: IF YOU HAD NOTICED 887 00:51:05,765 --> 00:51:06,700 SOMETHING, IT WOULD'VE BEEN TOO LATE 888 00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:12,472 I DON'T THINK YOU COULD'VE SAVED ANNIE'S LIFE 889 00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:16,676 >> IF I HAD TAKEN THOSE THREATS SERIOUSLY, MAYBE I COULD'VE. 890 00:51:16,676 --> 00:51:19,312 >> Reporter: DETECTIVE TURNAGE, AS YOU MIGHT GUESS, HAS A 891 00:51:19,312 --> 00:51:21,915 SLIGHTLY MORE CYNICAL EXPLANATION. 892 00:51:21,915 --> 00:51:24,084 >> I THINK SHE WAS LYING TO PROTECT HER FRIEND 893 00:51:24,084 --> 00:51:27,187 >> Reporter: YOU DON'T THINK SHE COULD JUST BE WRONG? 894 00:51:27,187 --> 00:51:29,622 >> I DON'T THINK SHE WAS WRONG KORINA'S STATEMENT OF THE CAR IS 895 00:51:29,622 --> 00:51:30,924 LOUD "I WOULD HAVE HEARD IT LEAVE, 896 00:51:30,924 --> 00:51:35,962 AND IT NEVER LEFT," I THINK THAT'S A BLATANT LIE 897 00:51:35,962 --> 00:51:37,630 >> Reporter: WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH. 898 00:51:37,630 --> 00:51:41,835 BUT WITH THAT DAMNING SECURITY CAMERA FOOTAGE IN HAND, 899 00:51:41,835 --> 00:51:43,503 DETECTIVES NEXT STARTED COMBING THROUGH MATT AND ANGELA'S CELL 900 00:51:43,503 --> 00:51:49,209 PHONES, WHICH THE COUPLE HAD VOLUNTARILY SURRENDERED. 901 00:51:49,209 --> 00:52:00,553 THERE, THEY FOUND ANOTHER CLUE THIS ONE, ABOUT THE BLOODY 902 00:52:00,553 --> 00:52:01,554 SHOE PRINTS FOUND LEADING FROM ANNIE'S APARTMENT. 903 00:52:01,554 --> 00:52:04,457 >> AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE PICTURES IN 904 00:52:04,457 --> 00:52:05,625 BOTH OF THEIR PHONES AND WE SAW THAT ON NOVEMBER 8th, 905 00:52:05,625 --> 00:52:08,428 MATT SENT ANGELA A PAYLESS SHOES COUPON TO SAVE MONEY OFF OF A 906 00:52:08,428 --> 00:52:13,566 PURCHASE ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, ANGELA SENT 907 00:52:13,566 --> 00:52:16,069 MATT A PICTURE TAKEN AT A SHOE STORE, BASED ON THE BACKGROUND 908 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:18,672 AND THERE WERE TWO BOOTS IN THAT PICTURE. 909 00:52:18,672 --> 00:52:22,876 WE SHOWED THE PICTURE TO A MANAGER AT PAYLESS SHOES, AND 910 00:52:22,876 --> 00:52:25,478 THE MANAGER SAID, "YES, THOSE ARE AIRWALK MYRAS. 911 00:52:25,478 --> 00:52:29,449 SO WE KNOW, BASED ON OUR INVESTIGATION, THAT IS THE TREAD 912 00:52:29,449 --> 00:52:31,284 PATTERN THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR >> Reporter: THEN THE MANAGER 913 00:52:31,284 --> 00:52:35,989 TOLD DETECTIVES SOMETHING THEY HADN'T EXPECTED. 914 00:52:35,989 --> 00:52:38,591 >> AND THE MANAGER SAID, "THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN AT OUR 915 00:52:38,591 --> 00:52:41,227 CLACKAMAS, OREGON LOCATION AND THE REASON WE KNOW THAT, IS 916 00:52:41,227 --> 00:52:44,097 BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY STORE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT DIDN'T HAVE 917 00:52:44,097 --> 00:52:47,500 THE CARPET REPLACED. AND THAT'S THE OLD CARPET YOU 918 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,602 SEE IN THAT PICTURE. >> Reporter: THAT PAYLESS STORE 919 00:52:49,602 --> 00:52:52,172 WAS ABOUT 10 MINUTES FROM MATT AND ANGELA'S APARTMENT 920 00:52:52,172 --> 00:52:55,442 >> AND THE DETECTIVES WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO WALK OVER AND 921 00:52:55,442 --> 00:53:00,113 FIND THE EXACT TILE SQUARE WHERE THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN. 922 00:53:00,113 --> 00:53:03,783 >> Reporter: DETECTIVES PULLED RECORDS SHOWING THAT ON THAT 923 00:53:03,783 --> 00:53:09,556 DAY, NOVEMBER 8th, 7 MONTHS BEFORE ANNIE'S MURDER, ONLY ONE 924 00:53:09,556 --> 00:53:11,124 PAIR OF AIRWALK MYRAS WAS SOLD THEY WERE PURCHASED WITH A 925 00:53:11,124 --> 00:53:17,464 CREDIT CARD. >> THE CREDIT CARD HOLDER WAS 926 00:53:17,464 --> 00:53:20,567 ANGELA McCRAW-HESTER SO OUR INVESTIGATION SHOWS THAT 927 00:53:20,567 --> 00:53:23,203 ANGELA McCRAW-HESTER PURCHASED A PAIR OF NINE -- SIZE NINE AND A 928 00:53:23,203 --> 00:53:26,373 HALF AIRWALK MYRAS THAT IS THE SAME SHOE DESIGN 929 00:53:26,373 --> 00:53:28,441 THAT WAS STAMPED AT OUR CRIME SCENE IN BLOOD 930 00:53:28,441 --> 00:53:31,077 >> Reporter: THAT'S PRETTY GOOD POLICE WORK. 931 00:53:31,077 --> 00:53:33,246 >> SOLID, IT SEEMS >> Reporter: SOLID GOLD, THAT 932 00:53:33,246 --> 00:53:40,086 IS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET A JUDGE TO ISSUE AN 933 00:53:40,086 --> 00:53:45,792 ARREST WARRANT >>> COMING UP -- 934 00:53:45,792 --> 00:54:07,313 >> WHY AM I BEING ARRESTED, YOU >> Reporter: DETECTIVES HAD 935 00:54:07,313 --> 00:54:11,284 POWERFUL NEW EVIDENCE TYING SOMEONE IN MATT AND ANGELA'S 936 00:54:11,284 --> 00:54:13,420 HOUSEHOLD TO THAT SILVER MAZDA CAUGHT ON CAMERA DRIVING TO 937 00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:19,159 ANNIE'S APARTMENT ON THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER. 938 00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:25,432 AND NOW IT LOOKED AS IF ANGELA HESTER HAD BEEN WEARING 939 00:54:25,432 --> 00:54:26,633 THE BOOTS THAT HAD MADE THOSE SIZE 9 1/2 BLOODY SHOE PRINTS. 940 00:54:26,633 --> 00:54:32,872 THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER ANYONE HAD HELPED HER 941 00:54:32,872 --> 00:54:35,742 IT SOUNDS AS IF YOU CAN PRETTY DEFINITIVELY TIE ANGELA TO 942 00:54:35,742 --> 00:54:39,245 ANNIE'S MURDER AT THAT POINT >> ABSOLUTELY. 943 00:54:39,245 --> 00:54:41,881 >> Reporter: BUT NOT MATT? >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON 944 00:54:41,881 --> 00:54:44,918 MATT AT THAT POINT >> Reporter: THE MURDER VICTIM 945 00:54:44,918 --> 00:54:53,326 IS HIS EX. HE'S ON THE HOOK FOR 946 00:54:53,326 --> 00:54:54,327 40-SOMETHING LARGE HE'S JUST THE INNOCENT 947 00:54:54,327 --> 00:54:55,428 BYSTANDER? OR HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING 948 00:54:55,428 --> 00:54:56,996 YOU BUY THAT >> NOT AT ALL. 949 00:54:56,996 --> 00:54:58,565 AT THIS POINT, I KNOW HE HAD SOMETHIN' TO DO WITH IT. 950 00:54:58,565 --> 00:55:00,667 I CAN'T PROVE IT >> Reporter: SO INVESTIGATORS 951 00:55:00,667 --> 00:55:02,769 KEPT LOOKING, AND THE CALENDAR KEPT FLIPPING. 952 00:55:02,769 --> 00:55:07,073 >> HELLO TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 5th, 2016, 953 00:55:07,073 --> 00:55:09,275 AND THIS IS MY WEEKLY WRITING VIDEO LOG OF WHAT I'VE BEEN UP 954 00:55:09,275 --> 00:55:11,211 TO >> Reporter: MATT HAD BEGUN 955 00:55:11,211 --> 00:55:15,882 POSTING UPDATES ABOUT HIS LIFE ON YOUTUBE 956 00:55:15,882 --> 00:55:20,053 AND WHAT HE HAD BEEN UP TO WAS EXACTLY WHAT DETECTIVES WANTED 957 00:55:20,053 --> 00:55:23,256 TO KNOW. STILL, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, NO 958 00:55:23,256 --> 00:55:30,263 ARREST ANNIE'S DAUGHTER ALICE 959 00:55:30,263 --> 00:55:32,265 CELEBRATED HER 5th BIRTHDAY IN THE CARE OF MATT AND ANGELA, THE 960 00:55:32,265 --> 00:55:36,369 PRIME SUSPECTS IN HER MOTHER'S MURDER 961 00:55:36,369 --> 00:55:38,972 >> I WAS VERY FEARFUL FOR ALICE. I WAS ALSO FEARFUL FOR MY OWN 962 00:55:38,972 --> 00:55:47,881 FAMILY I WAS FEARFUL FOR MYSELF 963 00:55:47,881 --> 00:55:49,549 I STARTED WALKING AROUND WITH PEPPER SPRAY IN MY PURSE AND A 964 00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:51,851 STUN GUN AND A KUBOTAN BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL SAFE 965 00:55:51,851 --> 00:55:54,988 AND I DEFINITELY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE MY NIECE WAS SAFE 966 00:55:54,988 --> 00:55:57,857 >> IT'S HARD TO WAIT AND NOT KNOW AND KIND OF BE IN THAT 967 00:55:57,857 --> 00:56:01,027 LIMBO STATE. >> Reporter: THAT LIMBO WENT ON 968 00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:04,164 BECAUSE DETECTIVES WERE WAITING ON DNA RESULTS 969 00:56:04,164 --> 00:56:07,867 NOTHING HAD MATCHED MATT OR ANGELA 970 00:56:07,867 --> 00:56:11,371 UNTIL A LAB ANALYST TOLD POLICE ABOUT AN ADVANCE IN FORENSIC 971 00:56:11,371 --> 00:56:15,342 TECHNOLOGY THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE TO GENERATE A DNA PROFILE WITH A 972 00:56:15,342 --> 00:56:20,480 SMALLER SAMPLE OF MATERIAL BINGO. 973 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,419 IT WAS IN OCTOBER OF 2017 THAT DETECTIVE TURNAGE WAS FINALLY 974 00:56:26,419 --> 00:56:27,854 READY TO MAKE HIS MOVE BY THAT TIME, MATT AND ANGELA 975 00:56:27,854 --> 00:56:34,661 HAD MOVED THEIR FAMILY, INCLUDING YOUNG ALICE, 650 MILES 976 00:56:34,661 --> 00:56:38,365 FROM THE PORTLAND AREA TO A NEW HOME HERE IN POCATELLO, IDAHO. 977 00:56:38,365 --> 00:56:43,069 FIRST, THOUGH, INVESTIGATORS DID SOME SURVEILLANCE AND NOTICED 978 00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:47,273 THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN AIR MUST HAVE HAD SOME MAGICAL HEALING POWERS 979 00:56:47,273 --> 00:56:49,642 FOR MATT HESTER. >> THEY'RE GOIN' TO COSTCO 980 00:56:49,642 --> 00:56:52,579 MATT IS SLINGIN' CASES OF WATER AND SODA ALL OVER THE PLACE 981 00:56:52,579 --> 00:56:56,216 WITHOUT ANY KIND OF AILMENTS OR ISSUES 982 00:56:56,216 --> 00:57:00,453 >> Reporter: IN FACT, THE MAN WHO WANTED POLICE TO BELIEVE HE 983 00:57:00,453 --> 00:57:05,658 COULD BARELY WALK WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA DOING CHORES LIKE MOWING 984 00:57:05,658 --> 00:57:07,794 HIS LAWN AND THEN ON OCTOBER 4th, LAW 985 00:57:07,794 --> 00:57:12,499 ENFORCEMENT MOVED IN ANGELA HESTER WAS ARRESTED 986 00:57:12,499 --> 00:57:17,037 BAREFOOT AND IN HER PAJAMAS. SHE WAS CHARGED WITH ANNIE'S 987 00:57:17,037 --> 00:57:19,105 MURDER AND SHE DID NOT GO QUIETLY 988 00:57:19,105 --> 00:57:20,907 >> IN THE CAR. >> NO! 989 00:57:20,907 --> 00:57:22,475 >> IN THE CAR. >> I HAVE KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO 990 00:57:22,475 --> 00:57:29,849 BE COMING HOME TELL ME WHY YOU'RE ARRESTING ME. 991 00:57:29,849 --> 00:57:37,190 WHY AM I BEING ARRESTED? I HAVE KIDS AND DOGS 992 00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:40,860 I DON'T UNDERSTAND >> Reporter: THEN, AT THE POLICE 993 00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:44,531 STATION DURING QUESTIONING, DETECTIVE TURNAGE OBSERVED A 994 00:57:44,531 --> 00:57:48,735 TELLING CLUE REMEMBER AT ANNIE'S FUNERAL, AN 995 00:57:48,735 --> 00:57:52,405 UNDERCOVER DETECTIVE SAW A LARGE CUT ON THE BACK OF ANGELA'S 996 00:57:52,405 --> 00:57:54,574 RIGHT HAND >> THE MORE WE SPOKE, THE MORE 997 00:57:54,574 --> 00:57:57,677 SHE BECAME FOCUSED ON WHAT IS NOW A SCAR ON THE BACK OF HER 998 00:57:57,677 --> 00:57:59,879 HAND SHE IS SUBCONSCIOUSLY MASSAGING 999 00:57:59,879 --> 00:58:04,017 THAT SCAR AS WE'RE HAVIN' THIS CONVERSATION 1000 00:58:04,017 --> 00:58:06,653 AND THAT NONVERBAL WAS A TELLTALE SIGN AS TO WE WERE 1001 00:58:06,653 --> 00:58:07,787 TALKIN' TO THE RIGHT PERSON. >> AND I'M GONNA CUT TO THE 1002 00:58:07,787 --> 00:58:10,824 CHASE. OKAY 1003 00:58:10,824 --> 00:58:12,759 YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR ANNASTASIA'S MURDER. 1004 00:58:12,759 --> 00:58:15,528 >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT I KILLED HER 1005 00:58:15,528 --> 00:58:16,663 >> YEAH. >> OKAY, I WOULD LIKE A LAWYER 1006 00:58:16,663 --> 00:58:18,665 IF THAT'S THE CASE >> OKAY. 1007 00:58:18,665 --> 00:58:21,835 ALL RIGHT. >> BECAUSE I DIDN'T. 1008 00:58:21,835 --> 00:58:25,038 I WAS AT HOME. >> Reporter: BY NOW DETECTIVES 1009 00:58:25,038 --> 00:58:29,843 KNEW THAT WASN'T TRUE. USING THAT NEW TESTING METHOD, 1010 00:58:29,843 --> 00:58:32,879 THEY'D ALREADY MATCHED DNA FROM ANGELA TO BLOOD LEFT ON THE 1011 00:58:32,879 --> 00:58:37,584 KNIFE BLOCK IN ANNIE HESTER'S KITCHEN AND TO BLOOD STAINS IN 1012 00:58:37,584 --> 00:58:40,253 THE SILVER MAZDA STILL, ANGELA HADN'T SEEMED TO 1013 00:58:40,253 --> 00:58:43,890 UNDERSTAND THAT DNA HAD BEEN HER UNDOING. 1014 00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:47,560 >> WE PROVIDED ANGELA SOME WATER DURING THIS INTERVIEW. 1015 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:55,168 AT THE END OF THE INTERVIEW, ANGELA TOOK THE WATER CUP AND A 1016 00:58:55,168 --> 00:58:57,637 TISSUE THAT SHE HAD, AND SHE HELD THE CUP BY THE RIM. 1017 00:58:57,637 --> 00:58:58,838 SHE USED THE TISSUE TO WIPE WHAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE HER DNA 1018 00:58:58,838 --> 00:59:02,308 OFF, AND THEN USED THE TISSUE TO HOLD THE CUP AS SHE THREW IT 1019 00:59:02,308 --> 00:59:03,677 DOWN INTO THE GARBAGE CAN. >> Reporter: SHE'S ALREADY GIVEN 1020 00:59:03,677 --> 00:59:06,479 YOU HER DNA AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? 1021 00:59:06,479 --> 00:59:09,215 >> CORRECT BUT SHE'S HAD 18 MONTHS OR 16 -- 1022 00:59:09,215 --> 00:59:12,185 18 MONTHS OF WIPING HER DNA AND CLEANIN' UP HER TRAILS 1023 00:59:12,185 --> 00:59:15,822 AND THE SWITCH JUST DIDN'T FLIP INSIDE HER MIND. 1024 00:59:15,822 --> 00:59:19,059 AND SHE WIPED HER DNA LIKE SHE'D BEEN DOIN' FOREVER 1025 00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:21,061 >> Reporter: NOT OFTEN THAT YOU SEE A MURDER SUSPECT TRYIN' TO 1026 00:59:21,061 --> 00:59:23,797 DISPOSE OF EVIDENCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE INTERVIEW 1027 00:59:23,797 --> 00:59:26,399 ROOM >> IT'S NOT OFTEN. 1028 00:59:26,399 --> 00:59:29,536 >> Reporter: POLICE HAD SUSPECTED MATT AND ANGELA OF 1029 00:59:29,536 --> 00:59:33,773 MURDER NOW THEY HAD A CASE AGAINST 1030 00:59:33,773 --> 00:59:35,842 ANGELA OH, AND SPEAKING OF MATT 1031 00:59:35,842 --> 00:59:38,645 HE WAS AT THE POLICE STATION, TOO. 1032 00:59:38,645 --> 00:59:43,817 SHUFFLING AROUND AS USUAL, WITH GREAT EFFORT 1033 00:59:43,817 --> 00:59:46,586 >> I JUST WANNA BE DONE SO I CAN GET HOME TO THE KIDS 1034 00:59:46,586 --> 00:59:49,522 >> Reporter: IT SEEMS FAIR TO SAY THAT MATT HESTER HAD NO IDEA 1035 00:59:49,522 --> 00:59:52,125 WHAT HE WAS IN FOR >> HERE'S THE DEAL, OKAY 1036 00:59:52,125 --> 00:59:57,364 OUR INVESTIGATION CLEARLY SHOWS THAT ANGELA COMMITTED THE MURDER 1037 00:59:57,364 --> 00:59:58,465 AGAINST ANNASTASIA WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS IF 1038 00:59:58,465 --> 01:00:01,101 THAT HAPPENED. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. 1039 01:00:01,101 --> 01:00:03,670 IN FACT, YOU'VE BEEN UNDER SURVEILLANCE FOR THE LAST TWO 1040 01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:07,440 WEEKS BY THE U.S. MARSHALLS. SO WE GOT YOU WALKING ACROSS THE 1041 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,908 PARKING LOT AT COSTCO, TAKING OUT SODA BOXES AND WATER BOTTLES 1042 01:00:08,908 --> 01:00:10,510 AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WERE DOING. 1043 01:00:10,510 --> 01:00:12,579 YOU'RE NOT LIMPING YOU'RE NOT WALKING WITH A CANE 1044 01:00:12,579 --> 01:00:14,748 I'M NOT BUYING THE FIBROMYALGIA. I'M NOT BUYING IT. 1045 01:00:14,748 --> 01:00:16,816 OKAY >> OKAY. 1046 01:00:16,816 --> 01:00:20,487 >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES PULLED OUT PHOTOS OF ANNIE'S 1047 01:00:20,487 --> 01:00:23,623 AUTOPSY. >> THAT'S HER. 1048 01:00:23,623 --> 01:00:27,293 SHE'S CUT TO - ANGELA TRIED TO DECAPITATE HER, 1049 01:00:27,293 --> 01:00:30,463 CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH HER JAW, STABBED ALL OVER HER FACE, 1050 01:00:30,463 --> 01:00:34,668 CARVED A ROMAN NUMERAL ON HER CHEST. 1051 01:00:34,668 --> 01:00:38,371 >> Reporter: USING KNIVES TO MAKE THOSE NUMERALS FELT TO 1052 01:00:38,371 --> 01:00:41,508 POLICE LIKE AN ATTEMPT BY THE KILLER OR KILLERS TO FOCUS 1053 01:00:41,508 --> 01:00:45,679 INVESTIGATORS ON ANNIE'S FRIENDS IN THE PIRATE COMMUNITY. 1054 01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:49,249 IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, IT DIDN'T WORK 1055 01:00:49,249 --> 01:00:55,155 AND BEFORE LONG, MATT HESTER HAD AN EPIPHANY ABOUT ANGELA 1056 01:00:55,155 --> 01:00:59,359 >> BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO 1057 01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:02,495 ACCEPT THAT SHE DID IT >> Reporter: FROM THERE, MATT 1058 01:01:02,495 --> 01:01:05,165 FOLDED FASTER THAN THE OVERNIGHT CREW AT THE GAP, ADMITTING THAT 1059 01:01:05,165 --> 01:01:08,301 ON THE EVENING OF THE MURDER, HE WAS SLEEPING WHEN, SOMETIME 1060 01:01:08,301 --> 01:01:12,472 AROUND 3:00 A.M., ANGELA WOKE HIM UP 1061 01:01:12,472 --> 01:01:15,608 >> LIKE, I JUST WOKE UP. MY WIFE'S PANICKING. 1062 01:01:15,608 --> 01:01:17,177 ALL I'M THINKING IS, "OKAY, WHATEVER YOU NEED, LET'S GO GET 1063 01:01:17,177 --> 01:01:20,947 YOU TAKEN CARE OF. SO WE GO UPSTAIRS. 1064 01:01:20,947 --> 01:01:22,949 I HELP HER GET IN THE SHOWER SHE'S BLEEDING 1065 01:01:22,949 --> 01:01:26,753 >> WHAT ARE YOU ASKING HER, AND WHAT IS SHE SAYING?. 1066 01:01:26,753 --> 01:01:28,755 >> SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING SHE WAS JUST SHAKING 1067 01:01:28,755 --> 01:01:29,923 >> OKAY. DID YOU ASK HER WHAT HAPPENED TO 1068 01:01:29,923 --> 01:01:31,458 HER? WHY WAS SHE BLEEDING 1069 01:01:31,458 --> 01:01:34,494 >> NO, I WAS JUST WORRIED ABOUT GETTING HER CALMED DOWN. 1070 01:01:34,494 --> 01:01:36,096 >> Reporter: WAIT A MINUTE HE'S WASHING BLOOD OUT OF HER 1071 01:01:36,096 --> 01:01:38,732 HAIR BLOOD'S POOLING IN THE BOTTOM OF 1072 01:01:38,732 --> 01:01:41,401 THE SHOWER BUT AT NO TIME DO THE WORDS, 1073 01:01:41,401 --> 01:01:45,005 "HONEY, WHAT HAPPENED," CROSS HIS LIPS 1074 01:01:45,005 --> 01:01:47,674 >> THAT IS CORRECT IF -- ACCORDING TO HIS STORY 1075 01:01:47,674 --> 01:01:49,743 >> SO THE NEXT DAY COPS KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR. 1076 01:01:49,743 --> 01:01:54,481 THEY TELL YOU ANNASTASIA'S DEAD. OKAY 1077 01:01:54,481 --> 01:01:58,151 YOU KNOW THAT YOUR WIFE CAME HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, 1078 01:01:58,151 --> 01:02:01,621 CUT UP AND BLOODY. AND YOU HELP HER TAKE A SHOWER 1079 01:02:01,621 --> 01:02:04,457 WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? IN YOUR MIND, EVEN THOUGH YOU 1080 01:02:04,457 --> 01:02:06,559 DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING 1081 01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,230 >> IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SHE HAD DONE IT. 1082 01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:13,933 >> Reporter: THAT DAY, THE DAY AFTER THE MURDER, MATT ADMITTED 1083 01:02:13,933 --> 01:02:17,604 CLEANING BLOOD STAINS FROM THE SILVER MAZDA AND LYING TO POLICE 1084 01:02:17,604 --> 01:02:23,543 ABOUT ALL OF IT. HE CONTINUED TO DENY ANY PART IN 1085 01:02:23,543 --> 01:02:26,613 THE PLANNING OF THE MURDER UNTIL THAT STORY CHANGED, TOO. 1086 01:02:26,613 --> 01:02:28,648 >> WHO ELSE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS 1087 01:02:28,648 --> 01:02:29,716 AND THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT 1088 01:02:29,716 --> 01:02:33,353 BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T YOU, IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. 1089 01:02:33,353 --> 01:02:37,557 WHO ELSE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS? >> SHE TALKED ABOUT HIRING 1090 01:02:37,557 --> 01:02:40,760 SOMEONE. >> Reporter: AND THE NAME MATT 1091 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,364 MENTIONED, WELL, IT WAS ONE THAT HAD CROSSED HIS WIFE'S LIPS 1092 01:02:44,364 --> 01:02:48,768 BEFORE SOMETHING ABOUT "IN GOOD TIMES 1093 01:02:48,768 --> 01:02:50,136 AND BAD. >>> COMING UP -- 1094 01:02:50,136 --> 01:02:53,807 HAD ANGELA BEEN SHOPPING FOR A HITMAN 1095 01:02:53,807 --> 01:02:54,774 >> LIKE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HIRING HER EX-HUSBAND 1096 01:02:54,774 --> 01:02:57,977 >> OKAY. AARON? 1097 01:02:57,977 --> 01:02:58,178 AARON? >> YEAH. 1098 01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:18,365 AARON TURNAGE HAD JUST ABOUT HAD IT WITH MATT HESTER'S EVASIVE 1099 01:03:18,365 --> 01:03:21,601 ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO MIGHT HAVE HELPED HIS CURRENT 1100 01:03:21,601 --> 01:03:26,773 WIFE, ANGELA, MURDER HIS EX-WIFE ANNIE. 1101 01:03:26,773 --> 01:03:29,909 THEN, ABOUT 90 MINUTES INTO THE INTERROGATION, MATT DROPPED 1102 01:03:29,909 --> 01:03:32,512 THIS >> LIKE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HIRING 1103 01:03:32,512 --> 01:03:35,648 HER EX-HUSBAND >> OKAY, AARON 1104 01:03:35,648 --> 01:03:40,320 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: AARON McCRAW. 1105 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,089 REMEMBER HIM ANGELA'S EX-HUSBAND. 1106 01:03:43,089 --> 01:03:45,125 THE FATHER OF TWO OF HER CHILDREN, AND, AN OCCASIONAL 1107 01:03:45,125 --> 01:03:48,795 ROOMMATE AT MATT AND ANGELA'S PLACE. 1108 01:03:48,795 --> 01:03:53,133 SOMEONE POLICE HAD ALREADY ASKED ABOUT HIS WHEREABOUTS ON THE 1109 01:03:53,133 --> 01:03:56,670 NIGHT OF THE MURDER. >> I WAS NOT AT HOME 1110 01:03:56,670 --> 01:03:59,806 I WAS AT MY GIRLFRIEND'S >> Reporter: IT MADE SENSE THEN. 1111 01:03:59,806 --> 01:04:03,476 NOW? POLICE WEREN'T SURE. 1112 01:04:03,476 --> 01:04:07,681 ACCORDING TO MATT, WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND HIRING 1113 01:04:07,681 --> 01:04:10,917 AARON McCRAW TO DO THE MURDER? IS HE A KILLER 1114 01:04:10,917 --> 01:04:13,953 >> HE'S NOT A KILLER, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO MATT. 1115 01:04:13,953 --> 01:04:16,589 BUT HE WAS SOMEBODY THEY KNEW AND TRUSTED AND WOULD AGREE TO 1116 01:04:16,589 --> 01:04:20,293 DO IT. >> I CAN RECALL THAT WE TALKED 1117 01:04:20,293 --> 01:04:22,896 ABOUT MURDER FOR HIRE. >> Reporter: MATT TOLD POLICE 1118 01:04:22,896 --> 01:04:26,566 THE DISCUSSIONS WITH AARON HAPPENED MONTHS BEFORE THE 1119 01:04:26,566 --> 01:04:29,736 MURDER, IN THE THICK OF THE CHILD CUSTODY FIGHT OVER ALICE 1120 01:04:29,736 --> 01:04:33,406 HE SAID HE WAS ABLE TO RECALL SOME OF WHAT THEY'D TALKED 1121 01:04:33,406 --> 01:04:37,077 ABOUT. >> DRESS ALL IN BLACK. 1122 01:04:37,077 --> 01:04:40,080 I CAN RECALL THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT WAS LIKE $15,000. 1123 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,384 >> Reporter: ULTIMATELY, MATT SAID THE PLAN FELL APART, 1124 01:04:44,384 --> 01:04:47,654 BECAUSE GIVEN THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION, HE AND ANGELA DIDN'T 1125 01:04:47,654 --> 01:04:51,224 ACTUALLY HAVE THE CASH TO HIRE A KILLER 1126 01:04:51,224 --> 01:04:55,161 AND ACCORDING TO MATT, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THE PLAN FAILED, 1127 01:04:55,161 --> 01:04:58,732 NOT THAT AARON SAID, "I WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 1128 01:04:58,732 --> 01:05:01,267 >> MATT THREW ANGELA UNDER THE BUS ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND 1129 01:05:01,267 --> 01:05:03,370 SAID SHE IS THE ONE THAT DID ALL THE TALKING. 1130 01:05:03,370 --> 01:05:06,039 >> Reporter: THE THING WAS, NOBODY REALLY SEEMED TO KNOW IF 1131 01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:09,175 ANGELA COMMITTED THE MURDER ON HER OWN. 1132 01:05:09,175 --> 01:05:11,745 AND THAT GAVE THE DETECTIVE AN IDEA 1133 01:05:11,745 --> 01:05:17,150 >> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO. 1134 01:05:17,150 --> 01:05:20,153 >> Reporter: WITH AARON McCRAW AND HIS FIANCEE ON THEIR WAY TO 1135 01:05:20,153 --> 01:05:24,858 IDAHO, AT THAT VERY MOMENT, TO PICK UP THE KIDS HE SHARED WITH 1136 01:05:24,858 --> 01:05:29,062 ANGELA, THE DETECTIVE ASKED MATT TO GET ON THE PHONE AND GET 1137 01:05:29,062 --> 01:05:32,766 AARON TO TALK. >> YOU CALL HIM, DISCUSS THE 1138 01:05:32,766 --> 01:05:34,834 MURDER FOR HIRE PLOT, MEANING, "WERE YOU DRIVING? 1139 01:05:34,834 --> 01:05:36,936 WHAT DO YOU KNOW I GOT TO KNOW WHAT TO TELL THE 1140 01:05:36,936 --> 01:05:40,607 COPS." >> Reporter: MATT AGREED 1141 01:05:40,607 --> 01:05:42,709 AND MINUTES LATER -- >> HELLO 1142 01:05:42,709 --> 01:05:44,310 >> HEY, IS AARON THERE >> YEAH. 1143 01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:45,845 HOLD ON. >> THANKS. 1144 01:05:45,845 --> 01:05:49,516 >> LET ME PUT YOU ON SPEAKER >> YEP 1145 01:05:49,516 --> 01:05:51,751 >> OKAY, WHAT'S UP >> HEY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU 1146 01:05:51,751 --> 01:05:56,356 GUYS KNOW, BUT, UH, ANGELA GOT ARRESTED 1147 01:05:56,356 --> 01:05:58,091 >> I HEARD YOU WERE ARRESTED >> NO ANGELA'S THE ONE WHO GOT 1148 01:05:58,091 --> 01:06:00,927 ARRESTED I JUST GOT OUT OF THE POLICE 1149 01:06:00,927 --> 01:06:03,830 STATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR STORY IS 1150 01:06:03,830 --> 01:06:10,036 THE SAME, UM, WHEN I GO IN AND TALK TO THEM AGAIN 1151 01:06:10,036 --> 01:06:11,271 SO, I -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE, DID SHE TALK TO 1152 01:06:11,271 --> 01:06:12,605 YOU AT ALL >> I KNOW NOTHING. 1153 01:06:12,605 --> 01:06:13,707 >> YOU KNOW NOTHING. SO - 1154 01:06:13,707 --> 01:06:15,809 >> NO. >> SO YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED IN 1155 01:06:15,809 --> 01:06:17,577 THIS AT ALL? >> NO. 1156 01:06:17,577 --> 01:06:22,115 >> DIDN'T HELP HER DRIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT 1157 01:06:22,115 --> 01:06:24,851 >> NO. >> I JUST WANNA KNOW IF -- IF 1158 01:06:24,851 --> 01:06:28,922 ANGELA GOT AHOLD OF SOMEONE TO HELP HER OR IF SHE DID IT ON HER 1159 01:06:28,922 --> 01:06:35,528 OWN, SO I KNOW WHAT TO TELL THE COPS WHEN THEY ASK ME. 1160 01:06:35,528 --> 01:06:41,067 AARON? AARON? 1161 01:06:41,067 --> 01:06:42,602 >> HE HUNG UP. >> AFTER WE HUNG UP, I WAS 1162 01:06:42,602 --> 01:06:44,170 GOING, "THAT'S A REALLY WEIRD CONVERSATION 1163 01:06:44,170 --> 01:06:47,841 I BET HE'S STILL IN POLICE CUSTODY. 1164 01:06:47,841 --> 01:06:52,579 >> Reporter: THIS IS EMILY, NOW AARON McCRAW'S WIFE. 1165 01:06:52,579 --> 01:06:55,715 AND AARON McCRAW - WHAT'S IT BEEN LIKE TO BE CAUGHT 1166 01:06:55,715 --> 01:07:00,020 IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS? >> IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH LIKE 1167 01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:03,089 BEING CAUGHT IN A TORNADO. >> Reporter: AARON 1168 01:07:03,089 --> 01:07:06,226 >> I'M JUST TRYING NOT TO HAVE A PTSD MOMENT AT THE MOMENT. 1169 01:07:06,226 --> 01:07:10,430 >> Reporter: YOU DIDN'T HAVE PTSD BEFORE ALL THIS 1170 01:07:10,430 --> 01:07:13,566 >> NO, I HAVE PANIC ATTACKS. >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT. 1171 01:07:13,566 --> 01:07:15,935 AARON McCRAW SAYS AFTER THAT CALL, POLICE BROUGHT HIM IN FOR 1172 01:07:15,935 --> 01:07:22,042 AN INTERROGATION AND A POLYGRAPH. 1173 01:07:22,042 --> 01:07:27,213 AND THAT'S WHAT GAVE HIM PTSD, FOR WHICH HE SAYS HE'S BEEN 1174 01:07:27,213 --> 01:07:31,951 DIAGNOSED AND TAKES MEDICATION >> I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF 1175 01:07:31,951 --> 01:07:33,687 THE -- THE INTERVIEW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN POCATELLO LIKE, MY 1176 01:07:33,687 --> 01:07:35,622 BRAIN HAS COMPLETELY BLOCKED IT OUT. 1177 01:07:35,622 --> 01:07:37,724 >> Reporter: YOU DIDN'T GET THE PTSD IN THE MILITARY, AND YOU 1178 01:07:37,724 --> 01:07:42,062 DIDN'T GET IT FROM SOME VIOLENT EVENT IN YOUR OWN LIFE 1179 01:07:42,062 --> 01:07:44,097 >> NO. >> Reporter: YOU GOT IT FROM 1180 01:07:44,097 --> 01:07:47,233 BEING ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT MURDER JUST LIKE I'M ASKING YOU 1181 01:07:47,233 --> 01:07:48,835 NOW? >> UH-HUH. 1182 01:07:48,835 --> 01:07:50,937 >> Reporter: THE DIFFERENCE IS I'M NOT THREATENING TO ARREST 1183 01:07:50,937 --> 01:07:54,574 YOU AFTERWARDS >> UH-HUH. 1184 01:07:54,574 --> 01:07:57,744 >> Reporter: UH-HUH. YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE CALL 1185 01:07:57,744 --> 01:08:00,347 WHERE MATT SAYS TO YOU, "REMEMBER THAT TIME I TRIED TO 1186 01:08:00,347 --> 01:08:03,016 GET YOU TO KILL ANNASTASIA?" >> NO. 1187 01:08:03,016 --> 01:08:05,051 >> Reporter: HM. BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT THAT 1188 01:08:05,051 --> 01:08:07,687 DIDN'T HAPPEN? >> YEAH. 1189 01:08:07,687 --> 01:08:08,855 >> Reporter: YOU NEVER HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH MATT ABOUT 1190 01:08:08,855 --> 01:08:16,629 KILLING ANYBODY? >> NO. 1191 01:08:16,629 --> 01:08:17,764 >> Reporter: OKAY. THAT'S -- I JUST WANT TO BE 1192 01:08:17,764 --> 01:08:18,798 CLEAR. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU 1193 01:08:18,798 --> 01:08:19,866 DON'T REMEMBER YOU REMEMBER THAT THAT DIDN'T 1194 01:08:19,866 --> 01:08:20,834 HAPPEN >> UH-HUH. 1195 01:08:20,834 --> 01:08:23,470 >> Reporter: AARON, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF MATT EVER HAD 1196 01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:26,606 ASKED YOU TO KILL ANNASTASIA, ANNIE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SAID? 1197 01:08:26,606 --> 01:08:29,776 >> HELL NO END OF STORY, WALKED AWAY. 1198 01:08:29,776 --> 01:08:32,379 >> Reporter: WHY WOULD HE MAKE THAT UP? 1199 01:08:32,379 --> 01:08:36,583 WHY WOULD HE DRAG YOU INTO THIS? >> THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK 1200 01:08:36,583 --> 01:08:38,518 OF, IS TO KEEP THE KIDS FROM ME. >> THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, 1201 01:08:38,518 --> 01:08:40,754 THEY'VE NEVER WANTED AARON TO HAVE CUSTODY OF THE KIDS 1202 01:08:40,754 --> 01:08:48,495 >> Reporter: SO YOU THINK THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT YOU BEING A 1203 01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:50,230 PROPOSED HIT MAN IS JUST MADE UP FROM THEM? 1204 01:08:50,230 --> 01:08:52,365 >> YES >> Reporter: DETECTIVE TURNAGE 1205 01:08:52,365 --> 01:08:53,933 DOES NOT BUY AARON'S DENIALS >> I DO BELIEVE THERE WERE 1206 01:08:53,933 --> 01:08:57,070 CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN MATT AND ANGELA AND AARON McCRAW ABOUT 1207 01:08:57,070 --> 01:08:59,706 THE MURDER >> Reporter: WELL, DEPENDING ON 1208 01:08:59,706 --> 01:09:02,409 WHEN AND HOW YOU ASK HIM, AARON EITHER SAYS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, 1209 01:09:02,409 --> 01:09:11,751 OR HE SAYS, "IF IT DID HAPPEN, I DON'T REMEMBER IT. 1210 01:09:11,751 --> 01:09:13,019 AND HE SAYS HE HAS PTSD FROM YOU ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 1211 01:09:13,019 --> 01:09:13,887 DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THAT >> NO. 1212 01:09:13,887 --> 01:09:15,021 >> Reporter: YOU THINK HIS PTSD IS AN ACT? 1213 01:09:15,021 --> 01:09:17,123 >> I DO THINK IT'S AN ACT TO GET AWAY FROM ANSWERING THE TOUGH 1214 01:09:17,123 --> 01:09:20,927 QUESTIONS. >> Reporter: POLICE ADMIT THERE 1215 01:09:20,927 --> 01:09:26,032 IS NO EVIDENCE, NONE, OTHER THAN THE CLAIMS MADE BY MATT HESTER, 1216 01:09:26,032 --> 01:09:27,334 THAT AARON McCRAW TALKED ABOUT HIRING ON AS A HITMAN TO KILL 1217 01:09:27,334 --> 01:09:28,134 ANNIE. >> Reporter: WHY DO YOU THINK 1218 01:09:28,134 --> 01:09:29,135 THEY WOULD JUST TAKE MATT'S WORD 1219 01:09:29,135 --> 01:09:31,738 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> Reporter: THEY DID BELIEVE 1220 01:09:31,738 --> 01:09:34,908 MATT IN FACT, THEY THINK YOU'RE LYIN' 1221 01:09:34,908 --> 01:09:36,076 NOW. NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT, I 1222 01:09:36,076 --> 01:09:38,578 GUESS? >> NO. 1223 01:09:38,578 --> 01:09:43,316 >> Reporter: NO. A LOT OF QUESTIONS 1224 01:09:43,316 --> 01:09:45,385 NOT AS MANY ANSWERS. AND SO, BOTH AARON McCRAW AND 1225 01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:51,691 MATT HESTER WALKED OUT OF THE POLICE STATION AS FREE MEN 1226 01:09:51,691 --> 01:09:58,064 SO -- THE END? NOT BY A LONG SHOT 1227 01:09:58,064 --> 01:10:00,100 >>> COMING UP -- >> YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, 1228 01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:01,768 "FOLLOW THE MONEY. >> MATT HESTER WANTED TO KNOW 1229 01:10:01,768 --> 01:10:23,790 HOW HE COULD GET A PAYOUT OF THE >>> WHY DON'T YOU JUST HANG OUT 1230 01:10:23,790 --> 01:10:26,826 HERE FOR JUST A SECOND >> Reporter: ANGELA HESTER WAS 1231 01:10:26,826 --> 01:10:28,895 UNDER ARREST IN IDAHO. AND THEN INVESTIGATORS SERVED A 1232 01:10:28,895 --> 01:10:33,633 SEARCH WARRANT AND COLLECTED FROM HER ANY EVIDENCE THEY 1233 01:10:33,633 --> 01:10:38,772 NEEDED FOR THEIR CASE. BEFORE LONG, ANGELA WAS ON HER 1234 01:10:38,772 --> 01:10:41,007 WAY BACK TO OREGON, IN HANDCUFFS, ON A CHARGE THAT 1235 01:10:41,007 --> 01:10:45,712 CARRIED THE DEATH PENALTY. >> IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST BRUTAL 1236 01:10:45,712 --> 01:10:48,882 CRIMES THAT I'VE EVER PARTICIPATED IN, IN THE 1237 01:10:48,882 --> 01:10:50,283 INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION. >> Reporter: PROSECUTOR DAVID 1238 01:10:50,283 --> 01:10:52,585 HANNON >> IT WAS A HOME INVASION, A 1239 01:10:52,585 --> 01:10:54,621 BREAK-IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. 1240 01:10:54,621 --> 01:10:58,391 SOMEONE'S STARTLED FROM THEIR SLEEP, STABBED MULTIPLE TIMES. 1241 01:10:58,391 --> 01:11:00,393 IT'S ONE OF THE SCARIEST CASES I'VE EVER SEEN 1242 01:11:00,393 --> 01:11:02,495 >> Reporter: AND NOT JUST MURDER 1243 01:11:02,495 --> 01:11:04,597 LIKE, TORTURE. >> THAT'S HOW WE CHARGED IT, 1244 01:11:04,597 --> 01:11:05,699 ABSOLUTELY THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE THAT 1245 01:11:05,699 --> 01:11:11,871 ANNIE HAD TO ENDURE IS REALLY UNSPEAKABLE. 1246 01:11:11,871 --> 01:11:16,142 >> Reporter: ANGELA WAS FACING A LETHAL INJECTION 1247 01:11:16,142 --> 01:11:18,211 AND MATT WELL, HE WASN'T FACING MUCH OF A 1248 01:11:18,211 --> 01:11:22,449 LIFE CHANGE AT ALL IN FACT, EVEN THOUGH HE'D 1249 01:11:22,449 --> 01:11:25,085 ADMITTED TO PARTICIPATING IN DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO ANNIE'S 1250 01:11:25,085 --> 01:11:30,824 MURDER, CLEANING UP BLOOD AFTERWARD, AND THEN LYING TO 1251 01:11:30,824 --> 01:11:35,095 POLICE, MATT FACED ONLY A RESISTING ARREST CHARGE, WHICH 1252 01:11:35,095 --> 01:11:38,732 WAS LATER DISMISSED, AND RETURNED TO THE HOUSE HE'D 1253 01:11:38,732 --> 01:11:41,968 SHARED WITH ANGELA IN POCATELLO. THE PLACE WAS MOSTLY EMPTY, ALL 1254 01:11:41,968 --> 01:11:46,606 FOUR KIDS DUMPED INTO FOSTER CARE 1255 01:11:46,606 --> 01:11:50,276 INCLUDING LITTLE ALICE ONLY THEIR VERY COMMITTED 1256 01:11:50,276 --> 01:11:55,315 ROOMMATE, ANGELA'S BEST FRIEND KORINA, WAS STILL THERE. 1257 01:11:55,315 --> 01:11:58,118 WHAT'S GOIN' ON WITH HIM >> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 1258 01:11:58,118 --> 01:12:00,787 >> Reporter: HE'S STILL SITTIN' IN HIS RECLINER PLAYIN' VIDEO 1259 01:12:00,787 --> 01:12:05,058 GAMES? >> NO, HE SAT ON HIS BED, PLAYED 1260 01:12:05,058 --> 01:12:08,928 VIDEOGAMES THE WHOLE TIME, WHILE I WORKED AND WORKED OVERTIME 1261 01:12:08,928 --> 01:12:13,099 >> Reporter: I MEAN, LOOK, IF YOU THINK HE'S INVOLVED, THEN 1262 01:12:13,099 --> 01:12:16,069 WHY ARE YOU LETTING HIM LIVE WITH YOU 1263 01:12:16,069 --> 01:12:19,205 >> BECAUSE I HAD MY COMPUTER ON AND I WAS HOPIN' HE WOULD SAY 1264 01:12:19,205 --> 01:12:23,910 SOMETHIN' SO HE'D GO AND TURNED OUT TO BE ALL HE DID 1265 01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:26,079 WAS SIT IN HIS ROOM. >> Reporter: FINALLY, SAID 1266 01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:30,383 KORINA, SHE KICKED HIM OUT MATT WENT TO LIVE WITH A FRIEND 1267 01:12:30,383 --> 01:12:32,318 IN WASHINGTON STATE. AS FOR POLICE IN GRESHAM, THEY 1268 01:12:32,318 --> 01:12:35,455 KEPT WORKING TRYING TO FIND EVIDENCE TYING MATT TO ANNIE'S 1269 01:12:35,455 --> 01:12:37,123 MURDER AND NOW WOULD SEEM LIKE A GOOD 1270 01:12:37,123 --> 01:12:39,159 TIME TO TELL YOU THEY DID FIND THIS 1271 01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:43,863 A WEEK AFTER THE MURDER, DETECTIVE TURNAGE RECEIVED A 1272 01:12:43,863 --> 01:12:46,499 PHONE CALL FROM A WOMAN WHO WORKED AT A LIFE INSURANCE 1273 01:12:46,499 --> 01:12:51,237 COMPANY. >> SHE SAID THAT SHE'D RECEIVED 1274 01:12:51,237 --> 01:12:54,374 A CALL FROM MATT HESTER. AND MATT HESTER WANTED TO KNOW 1275 01:12:54,374 --> 01:12:56,543 HOW HE COULD GET A PAYOUT OF THE $100,000 LIFE INSURANCE POLICY 1276 01:12:56,543 --> 01:13:00,647 THAT ANNIE HAD THAT HE BELIEVED HE WAS THE BENEFICIARY OF. 1277 01:13:00,647 --> 01:13:03,383 >> Reporter: 100K. OKAY, MINUS THE MONEY MATT OWED 1278 01:13:03,383 --> 01:13:06,786 IN BACK CHILD SUPPORT AND LEGAL FEES 1279 01:13:06,786 --> 01:13:09,622 I'LL DO THE MATH FOR YOU MATT APPARENTLY THOUGHT HE'D 1280 01:13:09,622 --> 01:13:14,294 COME AWAY WITH A CLEAN SLATE AND MORE THAN $50,000. 1281 01:13:14,294 --> 01:13:16,930 IT'S A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU'RE IN HIS SHOES. 1282 01:13:16,930 --> 01:13:21,701 A PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE THAT SOMEHOW ELUDED MATT WAS THAT 1283 01:13:21,701 --> 01:13:25,872 ANNIE ACTUALLY HAD TWO LIFE INSURANCE POLICIES 1284 01:13:25,872 --> 01:13:32,178 ONE FROM WORK. ANOTHER, PERSONAL. 1285 01:13:32,178 --> 01:13:34,481 TOTAL VALUE OF BOTH POLICIES >> I BELIEVE $125,000. 1286 01:13:34,481 --> 01:13:36,883 >> Reporter: THE SURPRISE FOR MATT 1287 01:13:36,883 --> 01:13:39,819 HE WAS ENTITLED TO NEITHER WHO WAS THE BENEFICIARY? 1288 01:13:39,819 --> 01:13:41,688 >> WELL, WHEN THE POLICY WAS ORIGINALLY INITIATED, IT WAS 1289 01:13:41,688 --> 01:13:46,326 MATT THEY WERE MARRIED AT THE TIME. 1290 01:13:46,326 --> 01:13:52,165 BUT AFTER THEY GOT DIVORCED, ANNIE WENT IN AND HAD IT 1291 01:13:52,165 --> 01:13:54,234 CHANGED. THE MAIN ONE IS ANNIE'S MOM -- 1292 01:13:54,234 --> 01:13:57,937 BENEFICIARY. THE WORK ONE OF $25,000 WAS IN 1293 01:13:57,937 --> 01:14:01,608 THE DAUGHTER'S NAME. >> Reporter: AND THE WOMAN FROM 1294 01:14:01,608 --> 01:14:03,576 THE INSURANCE COMPANY TOLD YOU THAT MATT CLEARLY HAD NOT KNOWN 1295 01:14:03,576 --> 01:14:05,945 THAT HE WAS NO LONGER THE BENEFICIARY? 1296 01:14:05,945 --> 01:14:09,215 >> CORRECT >> Reporter: TO A SUSPICIOUS GUY 1297 01:14:09,215 --> 01:14:15,255 LIKE DETECTIVE TURNAGE, THE IDEA THAT MATT THOUGHT ANNIE'S DEATH 1298 01:14:15,255 --> 01:14:17,891 MIGHT GET HIM OUT OF DEBT FELT SIGNIFICANT. 1299 01:14:17,891 --> 01:14:20,527 AND TOGETHER WITH ALL THE OTHER EVIDENCE, WHAT IT FELT LIKE WAS 1300 01:14:20,527 --> 01:14:21,828 MOTIVE AND SO IN JUNE 2019, A FULL 1301 01:14:21,828 --> 01:14:29,936 3 YEARS AFTER ANNIE'S MURDER, INVESTIGATORS FINALLY MADE THEIR 1302 01:14:29,936 --> 01:14:34,541 MOVE AND TOOK MATT HESTER INTO CUSTODY. 1303 01:14:34,541 --> 01:14:37,310 >> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON YET, SO 1304 01:14:37,310 --> 01:14:41,481 >> Reporter: IF THAT WAS TRUE, IT MIGHT HAVE MEANT ONLY THAT 1305 01:14:41,481 --> 01:14:45,785 MATT DIDN'T YET KNOW THE SPECIFIC CHARGE HE'D BE FACING 1306 01:14:45,785 --> 01:14:48,321 >> YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER AND 1307 01:14:48,321 --> 01:14:51,091 SOLICITATION TO COMMIT MURDER, THE MURDER OF ANNASTASIA HESTER. 1308 01:14:51,091 --> 01:14:54,661 THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TALKING TO YOU 1309 01:14:54,661 --> 01:14:56,796 >> SIGNATURE ON THAT LINE, PLEASE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO WAIVE 1310 01:14:56,796 --> 01:14:58,865 YOUR RIGHTS. >> NO, I WOULD LIKE A LAWYER 1311 01:14:58,865 --> 01:15:02,802 >> WE CHARGED MATT FOR SOLICITATION BASED ON HIS OWN 1312 01:15:02,802 --> 01:15:05,672 ADMISSIONS THAT HE SOLICITED AARON McCRAW TO KILL ANNIE 1313 01:15:05,672 --> 01:15:09,642 WE HAD CORROBORATIVE EVIDENCE TO THAT CONFESSION, BASED ON HIS 1314 01:15:09,642 --> 01:15:12,078 BEHAVIOR BEFORE THE HOMICIDE WITH HIS MOTIVE, AND AFTER THE 1315 01:15:12,078 --> 01:15:16,149 MURDER BASED ON HIM TRYING TO COLLECT ON WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS 1316 01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:21,921 THE BENEFICIARY OF THE LIFE INSURANCE POLICY, AS WELL AS THE 1317 01:15:21,921 --> 01:15:24,557 FACT THAT WE KNEW PHYSICAL EVIDENCE WAS DESTROYED AND HIM 1318 01:15:24,557 --> 01:15:28,228 ADMITTING TO IT BY CLEANING UP ANGELA AFTER THE MURDER. 1319 01:15:28,228 --> 01:15:31,398 >> ALL RIGHT, MATT THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1320 01:15:31,398 --> 01:15:32,932 IT WAS NICE SEEING YOU AGAIN >> Reporter: MATT AND 1321 01:15:32,932 --> 01:15:37,170 ANGELA HESTER WOULD SOON BE UNDER ONE ROOF AGAIN 1322 01:15:37,170 --> 01:15:39,806 NOT AT THEIR HOME. AT A PORTLAND AREA SLAMMER 1323 01:15:39,806 --> 01:15:44,544 SO NOW THE QUESTION WAS, "WHO'D TURN ON WHO? 1324 01:15:44,544 --> 01:15:51,885 YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW IT GOES FIRST SQUEAL GETS THE DEAL 1325 01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:53,987 >>> COMING UP -- WHO, IF ANYONE, TALKS FIRST? 1326 01:15:53,987 --> 01:15:58,658 >> Reporter: LOVE'S A WONDERFUL THING. 1327 01:15:58,658 --> 01:15:59,092 THING. >> IT'S A TIGHT BOND 1328 01:16:18,378 --> 01:16:21,948 SAYING IN CRIMINAL LAW WHOEVER GETS TO THE COURTHOUSE 1329 01:16:21,948 --> 01:16:26,653 FIRST WINS MEANING THE FIRST ONE TO SPILL 1330 01:16:26,653 --> 01:16:33,493 CAN CUT A DEAL IN EXCHANGE FOR COOPERATION AND MAYBE LESS TIME 1331 01:16:33,493 --> 01:16:37,731 IN THE JOINT SO MATT GETS LOCKED UP, AND 1332 01:16:37,731 --> 01:16:38,932 ANGELA'S LOCKED UP THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ONE OF 1333 01:16:38,932 --> 01:16:42,435 THEM ROLLS ON THE OTHER. RIGHT? 1334 01:16:42,435 --> 01:16:46,106 >> CORRECT >> Reporter: MATT HAD PLEADED 1335 01:16:46,106 --> 01:16:50,777 NOT GUILTY TO CHARGES OF CONSPIRACY TO MURDER ANNIE, AS 1336 01:16:50,777 --> 01:16:56,082 WELL AS TO SOLICITATION IN CONNECTION WITH WHAT PROSECUTORS 1337 01:16:56,082 --> 01:17:04,024 SAID WAS A PLOT TO HIRE A HITMAN, AND TO HINDERING 1338 01:17:04,024 --> 01:17:06,659 PROSECUTION. ANGELA HAD PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO 1339 01:17:06,659 --> 01:17:07,794 CHARGES OF AGGRAVATED MURDER SHE FACED THE DEATH PENALTY. 1340 01:17:07,794 --> 01:17:10,363 >> WE BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS A VERY STRONG CASE THAT WE FELT 1341 01:17:10,363 --> 01:17:12,399 VERY COMFORTABLE TAKING TO TRIAL. 1342 01:17:12,399 --> 01:17:13,533 >> Reporter: THE BIG DEVELOPMENT CAME FROM OREGON'S STATE 1343 01:17:13,533 --> 01:17:17,704 CAPITOL. BEFORE ANGELA COULD BE TRIED, 1344 01:17:17,704 --> 01:17:23,943 STATE LEGISLATORS IN 2019 NARROWED THE CRIMES 1345 01:17:23,943 --> 01:17:28,181 ELIGIBLE FOR THE DEATH PENALTY >> WHEN THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED 1346 01:17:28,181 --> 01:17:31,851 THE MURDER STATUTE PRIOR TO OUR TRIAL, OUR CHARGES DID NOT 1347 01:17:31,851 --> 01:17:33,086 QUALIFY AS AGGRAVATED MURDER WHEN THE LAW CHANGED, IT 1348 01:17:33,086 --> 01:17:36,056 QUALIFIED AS MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE 1349 01:17:36,056 --> 01:17:40,860 SO IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE LAW CHANGED, THE DEATH PENALTY WAS 1350 01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:43,396 NEVER A POSSIBILITY IN THIS CASE 1351 01:17:43,396 --> 01:17:45,498 >> Reporter: THAT WAS ONE COMPLICATION 1352 01:17:45,498 --> 01:17:51,838 THE OTHER WAS THIS ANGELA WASN'T TALKING WITH 1353 01:17:51,838 --> 01:17:54,474 POLICE OR PROSECUTORS ABOUT A PLEA DEAL OR ANYTHING ELSE 1354 01:17:54,474 --> 01:17:59,179 >> WE ACTUALLY NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER. 1355 01:17:59,179 --> 01:18:01,815 >> Reporter: AS FOR MATT, WHO WAS FACING ONLY 8 1/2 YEARS 1356 01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:05,018 BEHIND BARS? >> I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT THAT BY 1357 01:18:05,018 --> 01:18:07,287 THE TIME, YOU KNOW, MATT'S DEFENSE COUNSEL READ THROUGH 1358 01:18:07,287 --> 01:18:08,621 DISCOVERY, THAT THERE WOULD BE A CONVERSATION 1359 01:18:08,621 --> 01:18:12,826 >> Reporter: AND THAT CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE BEEN, 1360 01:18:12,826 --> 01:18:14,027 "IF YOU TESTIFY AGAINST YOUR WIFE, YOU MIGHT KNOCK SOME YEARS 1361 01:18:14,027 --> 01:18:17,564 OFF. >> CORRECT 1362 01:18:17,564 --> 01:18:21,234 BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THOSE INTERVIEWS WITH MATT, MATT 1363 01:18:21,234 --> 01:18:25,572 CONTINUED TO TELL OBVIOUS LIES, THINGS THAT JUST DEFIED REALITY. 1364 01:18:25,572 --> 01:18:28,208 AND WE DECIDED THAT HE WAS NOT WILLIN' TO HAVE AN HONEST 1365 01:18:28,208 --> 01:18:29,242 CONVERSATION WITH US >> Reporter: BUT HE WON'T ROLL 1366 01:18:29,242 --> 01:18:31,745 ON HER AND SHE WON'T ROLL ON HIM. 1367 01:18:31,745 --> 01:18:32,912 >> CORRECT >> Reporter: LOVE'S A WONDERFUL 1368 01:18:32,912 --> 01:18:37,150 THING. >> IT'S A TIGHT BOND 1369 01:18:37,150 --> 01:18:41,221 >> Reporter: AND SO THE FIRST SHOE FELL IN NOVEMBER 2020 1370 01:18:41,221 --> 01:18:45,425 IF YOU'VE BEEN KEEPING TRACK, IT WAS A SIZE 9 1/2 1371 01:18:45,425 --> 01:18:51,164 ANGELA HESTER PLEADED GUILTY TO MURDERING ANNIE. 1372 01:18:51,164 --> 01:18:55,502 HER SENTENCE -- 25 TO LIFE SHE'LL BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR 1373 01:18:55,502 --> 01:19:01,207 PAROLE IN 2042, WHEN SHE'LL BE 60. 1374 01:19:01,207 --> 01:19:05,912 >> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, GIVEN THE BRUTALITY OF THIS OFFENSE, 1375 01:19:05,912 --> 01:19:08,014 WE FELT THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE WAS FAR MORE REMOTE THAN 1376 01:19:08,014 --> 01:19:09,149 OTHER TYPES OF CASES >> Reporter: YOU'RE GONNA SHOW 1377 01:19:09,149 --> 01:19:12,052 UP AT HER PAROLE HEARING 25 YEARS LATER 1378 01:19:12,052 --> 01:19:15,889 >> I HOPE SO, IF I'M STILL WALKING AROUND ON THIS EARTH, 1379 01:19:15,889 --> 01:19:17,457 ABSOLUTELY >> Reporter: ANGELA HAS NOT 1380 01:19:17,457 --> 01:19:21,127 RESPONDED TO OUR MANY REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW 1381 01:19:21,127 --> 01:19:26,132 HOWEVER, HER BEST FRIEND KORINA STILL VISITS ANGELA IN THE BIG 1382 01:19:26,132 --> 01:19:31,137 HOUSE AND SAYS THAT WHEN SHE ASKS ANGELA ABOUT THE CASE, SHE 1383 01:19:31,137 --> 01:19:32,238 GETS THIS ANSWER >> SHE SAID SHE WASN'T TALKING 1384 01:19:32,238 --> 01:19:37,444 ABOUT THAT THAT WAS BETWEEN HER AND GOD 1385 01:19:37,444 --> 01:19:40,246 >> Reporter: AS FOR ANNIE'S BEST FRIEND NICOLE, SHE HAS TAKEN A 1386 01:19:40,246 --> 01:19:45,819 PERHAPS UNORTHODOX AND SYMPATHETIC VIEW TOWARD ANGELA 1387 01:19:45,819 --> 01:19:47,921 >> I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ANGELA WOULD LET HERSELF GET PLAYED 1388 01:19:47,921 --> 01:19:52,659 LIKE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S A VICTIM HERE IN THIS TOO, 1389 01:19:52,659 --> 01:19:54,728 IN A SENSE >> Reporter: ANGELA IS 1390 01:19:54,728 --> 01:20:00,500 >> YEAH. SHE DID MATT'S DIRTY WORK, AND 1391 01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:03,737 NOW HER LIFE IS RUINED AS WELL >> Reporter: I MEAN, ANGELA WAS 1392 01:20:03,737 --> 01:20:05,238 IN ANNIE'S APARTMENT ANGELA DID THE STABBING. 1393 01:20:05,238 --> 01:20:06,906 BUT YOU THINK IT MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN MATT'S HAND ON THE 1394 01:20:06,906 --> 01:20:12,612 KNIFE? >> ABSOLUTELY. 1395 01:20:12,612 --> 01:20:15,382 ANGELA WAS MATT'S WEAPON >> Reporter: AND MATT? 1396 01:20:15,382 --> 01:20:19,986 HE DIDN'T RESPOND TO OUR REQUESTS FOR INTERVIEWS EITHER 1397 01:20:19,986 --> 01:20:23,123 BUT HE DID EVENTUALLY TAKE A DEAL, ONE THAT DID NOT REQUIRE 1398 01:20:23,123 --> 01:20:26,359 FLIPPING ON HIS BETTER HALF. IN AUGUST 2021, PROSECUTORS 1399 01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:31,031 DROPPED THE CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER CHARGE IN AN EFFORT TO 1400 01:20:31,031 --> 01:20:36,302 PRESERVE THEIR SHOT AT MAYBE ONE DAY FILING MURDER CHARGES 1401 01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:43,610 AGAINST HIM AND AVOIDING ANY ISSUES WITH DOUBLE JEOPARDY. 1402 01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:46,946 IN EXCHANGE, MATT PLEADED GUILTY TO HINDERING PROSECUTION AND TO 1403 01:20:46,946 --> 01:20:50,984 SOLICITING AARON McCRAW TO KILL ANNIE. 1404 01:20:50,984 --> 01:20:55,722 A JUDGE SENTENCED MATT TO LESS THAN FIVE YEARS IN PRISON. 1405 01:20:55,722 --> 01:21:00,427 HE'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE IN MARCH 2023, LESS THAN A YEAR 1406 01:21:00,427 --> 01:21:03,596 FROM NOW IT'S AN OUTCOME THAT LEFT MANY 1407 01:21:03,596 --> 01:21:09,102 FEELING AS IF JUSTICE WAS BOTH DELAYED AND DENIED 1408 01:21:09,102 --> 01:21:11,471 YOU THINK MATT'S GETTIN' AWAY WITH MURDER HERE 1409 01:21:11,471 --> 01:21:13,573 >> I REALLY DO HE SHOULD'VE ALSO BEEN CHARGED 1410 01:21:13,573 --> 01:21:17,243 WITH MURDER. >> Reporter: DETECTIVE TURNAGE 1411 01:21:17,243 --> 01:21:19,412 STILL HOPES THAT DAY WILL COME YOU THINK WE'VE SEEN THE LAST 1412 01:21:19,412 --> 01:21:21,348 CHARGES FILED IN THIS? >> I DON'T THINK SO. 1413 01:21:21,348 --> 01:21:28,254 >> Reporter: YOU DON'T THINK SO, OR YOU HOPE NOT? 1414 01:21:28,254 --> 01:21:29,823 >> BOTHM THE COURTS HAVE LEFT IT OPEN WHERE IF WE FIND MORE 1415 01:21:29,823 --> 01:21:32,959 EVIDENCE, SPECIFICALLY, MATT HESTER COULD BE CHARGED, 1416 01:21:32,959 --> 01:21:34,094 YOU KNOW, WITH MURDER. IF WE FIND EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT 1417 01:21:34,094 --> 01:21:35,328 HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER -- OR KNEW ABOUT OR PARTICIPATED AHEAD 1418 01:21:35,328 --> 01:21:36,730 OF TIME. >> Reporter: YOU THINK THAT'S 1419 01:21:36,730 --> 01:21:38,264 WHAT HAPPENED? >> I THINK MATT HESTER HAD A LOT 1420 01:21:38,264 --> 01:21:42,435 MORE TO DO WITH THIS MURDER THAN HE HAS LET ON. 1421 01:21:42,435 --> 01:21:46,773 >> Reporter: HERE'S WHAT POLICE THINK HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. 1422 01:21:46,773 --> 01:21:49,809 AFTER LOSING THE CUSTODY CASE, MATT AND ANGELA WERE ANGRY DUE 1423 01:21:49,809 --> 01:21:53,480 TO BOTH THE DECISION AND THE DEBTS THEY NOW OWED. 1424 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:57,684 DETECTIVES BELIEVE THEY TRIED AND FAILED TO HIRE A HITMAN 1425 01:21:57,684 --> 01:22:01,421 BEFORE ANGELA DECIDED TO JUST DO IT HERSELF 1426 01:22:01,421 --> 01:22:06,059 THERE'S NO SIGN ANYONE BUT ANGELA WAS IN ANNIE'S APARTMENT. 1427 01:22:06,059 --> 01:22:11,297 SO DID MATT OR SOMEONE ELSE HELP HER, ADVISE HER, OR DRIVE HER 1428 01:22:11,297 --> 01:22:17,604 ACROSS TOWN? RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO WAY TO 1429 01:22:17,604 --> 01:22:21,274 KNOW AS FOR ALICE, THE NOW 1430 01:22:21,274 --> 01:22:26,079 10-YEAR-OLD PRODUCT OF MATT AND ANNIE'S MARRIAGE 1431 01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:28,648 IT TOOK YEARS OF FIGHTING IN COURT, BUT ANNIE'S MOM WAS 1432 01:22:28,648 --> 01:22:33,486 ALLOWED TO ADOPT HER ALICE, WE ARE TOLD, IS A HAPPY 1433 01:22:33,486 --> 01:22:37,557 AND WELL ADJUSTED LITTLE GIRL. AND AFTER THE PARENTAL WHIRLWIND 1434 01:22:37,557 --> 01:22:41,761 SHE WAS CAUGHT IN, WHERE THE LINES BETWEEN LOVE AND HATE AND 1435 01:22:41,761 --> 01:22:45,865 MONEY WERE BLURRED AGAIN AND AGAIN, MAYBE COMING THROUGH IT 1436 01:22:45,865 --> 01:22:52,939 IN ONE PIECE IS THE BEST POSSIBLE NEWS. 1437 01:22:52,939 --> 01:22:57,010 SO WE SAVED IT FOR LAST. >>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION 1438 01:22:57,010 --> 01:22:59,713 OF "DATELINE." WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY 1439 01:22:59,713 --> 01:23:01,247 AT 9:00, 8:00 CENTRAL. AND, OF COURSE, I'LL SEE YOU 1440 01:23:01,247 --> 01:23:04,351 EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR "NBC NIGHTLY NEWS." 1441 01:23:04,351 --> 01:23:08,555 I'M LESTER HOLT. FOR ALL OF US AT NBC NEWS, GOOD 1442 01:23:08,555 --> 01:23:08,722 FOR ALL OF US AT NBC NEWS, GOOD NIGHT.