1 00:00:14,614 --> 00:00:16,249 >>> I'M LESTER HOLT. 2 00:00:16,249 --> 00:00:19,886 TONIGHT ON "DATELINE" -- A DRAMATIC NEW TWIST IN THE CASE 3 00:00:19,886 --> 00:00:24,691 OF A DOCTOR, HIS WIFE, AND THE MYSTERIOUS END TO HER LIFE 4 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:29,362 >> OH, MY GOD, THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE 5 00:00:29,362 --> 00:00:32,098 OH, MY GOD MY MOTHER. 6 00:00:32,098 --> 00:00:35,301 MY MOMMY >> HER SCREAMS ON THAT CALL WERE 7 00:00:35,301 --> 00:00:39,472 SO RAW AND SO REAL >> I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M LOSING 8 00:00:39,472 --> 00:00:41,608 LESLIE [ CRYING ] 9 00:00:41,608 --> 00:00:45,278 >> HE WALKED INTO THE BATHROOM AND FOUND HER ON THE FLOOR 10 00:00:45,278 --> 00:00:48,948 >> YOU SORT OF THOUGHT, "GOSH, WHAT A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT." 11 00:00:48,948 --> 00:00:51,051 SHE SLIPPED IN THE SHOWER. >> WHY IS THERE BLOOD ON THIS 12 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:53,820 WALL WHY IS THERE BLOOD ON THESE 13 00:00:53,820 --> 00:00:55,221 WINDOW SHADES, THE HEADBOARD >> THERE'S NO WAY SHE FELL IN 14 00:00:55,221 --> 00:00:57,857 HERE AND DIED. >> I SAID, "IT'S A HOMICIDE. 15 00:00:57,857 --> 00:01:00,060 LESLIE WAS MURDERED. >> I THOUGHT, "THIS CAN'T BE 16 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,561 HAPPENING. HOW COULD THIS MAN BE 17 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:04,264 INVESTIGATED FOR HIS WIFE'S DEATH? 18 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:07,400 >> Reporter: YOU HAVE A DOCTOR >> A VERY, VERY LIKABLE GUY WHO 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,502 BRINGS BABIES INTO THE WORLD >> MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS STANDING 20 00:01:09,502 --> 00:01:14,808 BEHIND HIM DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH 21 00:01:14,808 --> 00:01:17,711 HIM IF WE THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY? >> THIS IS ABOUT STANDING UP FOR 22 00:01:17,711 --> 00:01:34,828 LESLIE SHE DIDN'T DESERVE THIS. 23 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:45,872 >> HERE'S ANDREA CANNING WITH "THE HOUSE ON SHALIMAR WAY." 24 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:48,475 >> Reporter: IN A QUIET SUBURBAN TOWN OUTSIDE OF SYRACUSE, NEW 25 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:51,644 YORK, THERE'S A STREET CALLED SHALIMAR WAY, A WINDING 26 00:01:51,644 --> 00:01:56,449 CUL-DE-SAC LINED WITH WELL ADORNED MANSIONS, SWIMMING 27 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:59,586 POOLS, AND TENNIS COURTS TAKE THIS FINAL TURN, AND THERE 28 00:01:59,586 --> 00:02:03,289 BEHIND THE TREES LIES ONE OF THE STREET'S CROWN JEWELS, AN 29 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:05,959 8,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOME OWNED BY A COUPLE WHO SEEMED TO HAVE IT 30 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:09,362 ALL. A CLOSE FAMILY, WEALTH, 31 00:02:09,362 --> 00:02:11,731 PRESTIGE >> THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN 32 00:02:11,731 --> 00:02:14,367 THE COMMUNITY. BOTH OF THEM SPENT THEIR LIVES 33 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:19,172 GIVING BACK. >> Reporter: LIFE WAS GOOD HERE. 34 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:22,342 THAT IS, UNTIL THE MORNING OF SEPTEMBER 17th, 2012 35 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:24,978 >> OH, MY GOD. OH, MY GOD 36 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:29,683 MY MOTHER. MY MOMMY 37 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:33,353 >> Reporter: IT WAS JUST BEFORE 8:30 A.M 38 00:02:33,353 --> 00:02:36,523 DR. ROBERT NEULANDER, AN OBGYN, HAD RETURNED FROM A JOG TO 39 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:39,192 DISCOVER HIS WIFE, LESLIE, ON THE FLOOR OF THE BATHROOM 40 00:02:39,192 --> 00:02:41,361 SHOWER HE YELLED TO HIS 23-YEAR-OLD 41 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:43,997 DAUGHTER, JENNA, TO CALL FOR HELP 42 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:46,166 >> MY MOTHER'S -- I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S BREATHING, BUT SHE'S 43 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:48,201 LAYING ON THE GROUND IN THE SHOWER 44 00:02:48,201 --> 00:02:50,337 >> IS SHE UNCONSCIOUS? >> UM, I -- I DON'T KNOW 45 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:51,871 I'M, UH -- >> OKAY. 46 00:02:51,871 --> 00:02:53,973 IS SHE AWAKE >> SHE'S -- I DON'T THINK SHE'S 47 00:02:53,973 --> 00:02:56,109 AWAKE. I NEED TO GO OVER THERE AND SEE 48 00:02:56,109 --> 00:03:00,313 IF SHE'S OKAY. >> OH, MY GOD. 49 00:03:00,313 --> 00:03:01,848 THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE >> MA'AM 50 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:03,950 TAKE A DEEP BREATH WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMEBODY 51 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:07,120 STARTED. MA'AM? 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,056 >> OH, MY GOD, DADDY >> OKAY. 53 00:03:10,056 --> 00:03:12,125 >> Reporter: SERGEANT TOM NORTON OF THE DEWITT POLICE DEPARTMENT 54 00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:14,060 WAS NEARBY WHEN THE CALL WENT OUT. 55 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:17,697 >> OVER THE RADIO I HEAR A UNCONSCIOUS PERSON CALL, WHICH 56 00:03:17,697 --> 00:03:18,965 IS -- WE GET THOSE ALL THE TIME. A FEMALE HAD SLIPPED AND FELL IN 57 00:03:18,965 --> 00:03:20,834 THE SHOWER AND SHE WAS UNCONSCIOUS. 58 00:03:20,834 --> 00:03:22,936 >> Reporter: THAT WAS ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAD. 59 00:03:22,936 --> 00:03:26,639 >> THAT WAS ALL THAT I KNEW GOING INTO THIS. 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,377 I WENT INSIDE AND THIS -- THIS HOUSE IS ENORMOUS. 61 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:32,979 AND I'M FOLLOWING THE NOISE. AND I GO UPSTAIRS, AND I'M IN 62 00:03:32,979 --> 00:03:35,615 THIS OFFICE AREA AND THERE'S A GENTLEMAN WHO I 63 00:03:35,615 --> 00:03:37,717 LATER LEARNED WAS DR. NEULANDER. AND THERE WAS A FEMALE WHO I 64 00:03:37,717 --> 00:03:39,819 LATER LEARNED WAS JENNA NEULANDER. 65 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:43,523 SHE WAS ON THE FLOOR, AND SHE WAS JUST SCREAMING HYSTERICALLY. 66 00:03:43,523 --> 00:03:46,192 SHE JUST KEPT SCREAMING, "MOMMY," OVER AND OVER AGAIN 67 00:03:46,192 --> 00:03:48,828 AND IT MADE ME FOCUS ON HER 'CAUSE IT -- IT'S LIKE, WHY IS 68 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:50,397 SHE REACTING TO THIS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE -- WE GO TO 69 00:03:50,397 --> 00:03:53,099 PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSED OUT ALL THE TIME 70 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:55,702 >> Reporter: BEFORE NORTON COULD GET HIS BEARINGS, A PARAMEDIC 71 00:03:55,702 --> 00:03:59,906 EMERGED FROM THE BEDROOM WHERE THE VICTIM WAS BEING WORKED ON 72 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:02,042 >> HE SAYS TO DR. NEULANDER, "I'M GONNA SPEAK TO YOU ON YOUR 73 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:04,644 LEVEL AS A PHYSICIAN THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO 74 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:07,280 FOR HER. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR PERMISSION 75 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,916 TO STOP CPR. AND I'M LIKE, "STOP CPR? 76 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:13,586 I MEAN, THIS IS -- SOMEONE'S JUST UNCONSCIOUS 77 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:16,756 WHAT DO YOU MEAN STOP CPR? AND THAT MADE JENNA SCREAM EVEN 78 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:19,959 MORE >> Reporter: THAT WAS ALSO THE 79 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,595 MOMENT WHEN SERGEANT NORTON REALIZED JUST WHO DR. NEULANDER 80 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:25,765 WAS -- AND THAT THEY HAD A PERSONAL CONNECTION. 81 00:04:25,765 --> 00:04:27,367 >> MY WIFE USED TO GO TO HIM >> Reporter: OH, OKAY. 82 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,402 SO YOU REALLY -- HE WAS REALLY ON YOUR RADAR. 83 00:04:29,402 --> 00:04:31,671 >> I DIDN'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. BUT YEAH, I KNEW WHO HE WAS. 84 00:04:31,671 --> 00:04:33,673 >> Reporter: DID HE DELIVER YOUR CHILD? 85 00:04:33,673 --> 00:04:35,175 >> HIS MIDWIFE DID BUT YEAH, HIS OFFICE DID 86 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:37,344 >> Reporter: IT'S A BIT OF A COINCIDENCE THERE. 87 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:41,081 >> CORRECT YEAH, IT -- IT WAS STRANGE 88 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:43,116 >> Reporter: WHILE ANOTHER OFFICER STAYED WITH THE 89 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:49,989 NEULANDERS, NORTON DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AROUND 90 00:04:49,989 --> 00:04:51,591 >> AND I WALKED PASSED THEM INTO THIS BEDROOM, AND I JUST 91 00:04:51,591 --> 00:04:53,193 IMMEDIATELY STOPPED IN THE DOORWAY BECAUSE OF WHAT I WAS 92 00:04:53,193 --> 00:04:55,295 SEEING >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU 93 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:57,931 SEEING >> OFF TO MY RIGHT, I SEE THE 94 00:04:57,931 --> 00:05:11,778 PARAMEDICS WORKING ON A FEMALE SHE'S ON A BACKBOARD 95 00:05:11,778 --> 00:05:13,813 THERE'S A LOT OF BLOOD AROUND HER. 96 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:15,348 AND THEN I LOOK OFF TO MY LEFT, AND THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE 97 00:05:15,348 --> 00:05:18,084 BATHROOM AND THERE'S JUST BLOOD ALL OVER. 98 00:05:18,084 --> 00:05:19,719 IT'S MARBLE FLOOR. THERE'S BLOOD ALL OVER THE 99 00:05:19,719 --> 00:05:21,121 FLOOR. IT'S ON THE WALLS. 100 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:23,089 >> Reporter: BLOOD PRESUMABLY FROM A HEAD WOUND AFTER THAT 101 00:05:23,089 --> 00:05:24,824 FALL NORTON WALKED OVER TO GET A 102 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:26,393 CLOSER LOOK AT THE BODY. LESLIE'S HAIR WAS MATTED WITH 103 00:05:26,393 --> 00:05:28,061 BLOOD. AND HE NOTICED HER LEFT EYE. 104 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:29,662 >> IT WAS CLOSED AND SWOLLEN AND COMPLETELY BLACK. 105 00:05:29,662 --> 00:05:31,364 AND I'M -- I'M LOOKIN' AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, "WELL, 106 00:05:31,364 --> 00:05:32,832 I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WITH BLACK EYES." 107 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:35,969 I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, AND THAT WAS UNLIKE 108 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:38,204 ANY BLACK EYE I'VE EVER SEEN >> Reporter: LESLIE WAS 109 00:05:38,204 --> 00:05:39,673 OFFICIALLY DECLARED DEAD AT THE SCENE. 110 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:41,808 THE NEWS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR FRIENDS LIKE MARY JUMBELIC TO 111 00:05:41,808 --> 00:05:43,877 ABSORB >> I WAS CONFUSED AT FIRST 112 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:46,079 I THOUGHT MAYBE I HAD -- THE INFORMATION WAS INCORRECT. 113 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:53,887 >> Reporter: DID YOU SAY HOW, DETAILS? 114 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:55,555 >> UM, I -- I -- I -- I THINK I COULDN'T EVEN ASK THAT QUESTION 115 00:05:55,555 --> 00:05:59,092 INITIALLY BECAUSE I WAS TOO OVERWHELMED WITH THE NEWS. 116 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:00,293 I JUST CRIED >> Reporter: ANOTHER FRIEND, 117 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:02,395 TERRI BARR, HEARD THE NEWS FROM HER DAUGHTER WHO WAS CLOSE WITH 118 00:06:02,395 --> 00:06:04,030 JENNA. >> I JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT. 119 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:07,667 I THOUGHT THIS JUST CAN'T BE TRUE 120 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:10,804 JENNA HAD SENT OUT A GROUP TEXT TO HER FRIENDS THAT -- 121 00:06:10,804 --> 00:06:23,049 "MY MOTHER'S DIED -- SHE FELL IN THE SHOWER," I THINK IS WHAT IT 122 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:25,552 SAID >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YO 123 00:06:25,552 --> 00:06:27,454 THINKING AS YOU'RE DRIVING TO THE NEULANDERS' HOUSE? 124 00:06:27,454 --> 00:06:28,655 >> I JUST COULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT 125 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,757 I JUST THOUGHT, "I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M LOSING LESLIE. 126 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:32,325 >> Reporter: AND ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT IT'S AN ACCIDENT. 127 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:33,893 >> RIGHT AND IT JUST SOUNDED SO FREAKY. 128 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:35,462 >> Reporter: FREAKY FOR SURE AFTER REVIEWING THE SCENE, 129 00:06:35,462 --> 00:06:37,063 SERGEANT NORTON MADE A QUICK ASSESSMENT 130 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:38,631 HE WASN'T GOING HOME ANYTIME SOON 131 00:06:38,631 --> 00:06:40,367 >> I ASKED THE FIRE CHIEF TO REMOVE ALL OF HIS PERSONNEL FROM 132 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:42,268 THE BEDROOM -- PARAMEDICS, EVERYBODY. 133 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:44,404 I WANTED 'EM ALL OUT SO THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 134 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:47,874 CONTAMINATION. I CALLED MY CAPTAIN. 135 00:06:47,874 --> 00:06:51,144 I TOLD HIM QUITE FRANKLY -- I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT I HAVE, 136 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:52,946 BUT YOU NEED TO COME HERE. >> Reporter: CRIME SCENE EXPERTS 137 00:06:52,946 --> 00:06:55,582 WERE ON THE WAY. BUT WHAT WOULD THEY FIND 138 00:06:55,582 --> 00:07:01,388 AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING MUCH DARKER 139 00:07:01,388 --> 00:07:05,058 >>> WHEN WE COME BACK -- WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO LESLIE? 140 00:07:05,058 --> 00:07:07,227 >> WHAT A LOSS THIS WAS. SHE'S VERY HEALTHY 141 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:11,431 SHE'S ATHLETIC SHE'S STRONG 142 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:15,135 IT WAS ALMOST UNIMAGINABLE >> SERGEANT NORTON IS ABOUT TO 143 00:07:15,135 --> 00:07:20,340 MAKE A CURIOUS DISCOVERY >> SHE WAS MOVED OVER 50 FEET 144 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:23,043 FROM WHERE THE SHOWER WAS. SO IF THE SHOWER IS WAY OVER 145 00:07:23,043 --> 00:07:41,828 HERE, WHAT IS SHE DOING WAY OVER >> Reporter: LESLIE NEULANDER 146 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:44,497 WAS DEAD AFTER A FALL IN THE SHOWER 147 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:47,634 BUT RESPONDING OFFICER TOM NORTON HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT 148 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:50,770 THE SCENE. FOR ONE, WHY HAD HE FOUND HER 149 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:53,940 BODY IN THE BEDROOM, NOT THE BATHROOM 150 00:07:53,940 --> 00:07:58,111 >> SHE WAS MOVED OVER 50 FEET FROM WHERE THE SHOWER WAS. 151 00:07:58,111 --> 00:08:00,513 SO THAT'S GOING THROUGH MY MIND. IF -- IF THE SHOWER IS WAY OVER 152 00:08:00,513 --> 00:08:03,450 HERE, WHAT IS SHE DOING WAY OVER HERE 153 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:06,086 >> Reporter: AND THERE WAS THAT STRANGE LOOKING BLACK EYE. 154 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:16,730 ANSWERS WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER WHO 155 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:18,798 ARRIVED AT THE HOUSE >> I REMEMBER HE SPENT QUITE A 156 00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:21,935 BIT OF TIME LOOKING AT THE HEAD INJURY WHICH WAS JUST MASSIVE, 157 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:23,503 YOU KNOW, HER SKULL FRACTURE >> Reporter: NORTON LISTENED AS 158 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:25,739 THE M.E. REVIEWED THE SCENE. YES, THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOOD. 159 00:08:25,739 --> 00:08:28,775 BUT HEAD WOUNDS BLEED PROFUSELY. AND THE LOCATION OF LESLIE'S 160 00:08:28,775 --> 00:08:31,878 BODY DIDN'T SEEM TROUBLING DR. NEULANDER TOLD PARAMEDICS HE 161 00:08:31,878 --> 00:08:36,649 CARRIED HER TO THE BEDROOM SO HE COULD PERFORM CPR. 162 00:08:36,649 --> 00:08:38,218 AS FOR THAT BLACK EYE. THE M.E. SAID IT HAD RESULTED 163 00:08:38,218 --> 00:08:42,956 FROM HER FALL. >> HE WAS EXPLAINING THAT WHEN 164 00:08:42,956 --> 00:08:45,625 YOU HAVE AN INJURY TO THE SKULL ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT'S COMMON 165 00:08:45,625 --> 00:08:48,294 FOR IT TO BLEED INTO THE LEFT SIDE 166 00:08:48,294 --> 00:08:52,499 HER EYE WAS POOLED WITH BLOOD. HE EXPLAINED TO US THAT THE 167 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:55,669 INJURY WAS VERY COMMON WHEN YOU FALL AND HIT YOUR HEAD 168 00:08:55,669 --> 00:08:57,804 >> DID THE BLACK EYE EXPLANATION PUT THINGS A LITTLE MORE INTO 169 00:08:57,804 --> 00:09:01,441 PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU? >> YES 170 00:09:01,441 --> 00:09:04,611 THAT MADE SENSE. >> Reporter: RIGHT THERE AT THE 171 00:09:04,611 --> 00:09:08,815 SCENE, THE M.E. CONCLUDED THAT LESLIE'S DEATH WAS AN ACCIDENT, 172 00:09:08,815 --> 00:09:12,018 JUST AS THE FAMILY SAID. >> HE MADE THE DETERMINATION 173 00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,520 THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH AN ACCIDENTAL SLIP AND FALL IN THE 174 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,723 SHOWER >> ARE YOU A LITTLE SURPRISED? 175 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:19,325 >> YOU KNOW, I -- I'M NOT A MEDICAL EXAMINER 176 00:09:19,325 --> 00:09:22,562 SO, I MEAN, I -- I TAKE HIS WORD FOR WHAT HE'S SEEING 177 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:25,165 >> I TOLD MY EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN, YOU KNOW, "HE'S 178 00:09:25,165 --> 00:09:26,833 RULED IT ACCIDENTAL. FINISH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND, 179 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:30,136 YOU KNOW -- AND PACK UP YOUR STUFF. 180 00:09:30,136 --> 00:09:32,539 >> Reporter: THE HOUSE WAS TURNED OVER TO THE GRIEVING 181 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:35,742 FAMILY MARY JUMBELIC KNEW IT WOULDN'T 182 00:09:35,742 --> 00:09:40,413 BE EASY FOR LESLIE'S MANY LOVED ONES TO SAY GOODBYE. 183 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:44,150 >> WHAT A LOSS THIS WAS FOR BOB, FOR JENNA. 184 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:49,389 FOR HER OTHER KIDS, FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR HER FRIENDS 185 00:09:49,389 --> 00:09:52,058 IT WAS ALMOST UNIMAGINABLE >> Reporter: MARY SAYS THAT 186 00:09:52,058 --> 00:09:55,695 TOGETHER LESLIE AND BOB WERE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH. 187 00:09:55,695 --> 00:09:58,331 >> THEY JUST ALWAYS SEEMED TO HAVE A VERY POWERFUL PUBLIC 188 00:09:58,331 --> 00:10:02,002 PERSONA. THEY HAD TWO LOVELY CHILDREN 189 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:06,272 FROM THEIR MARRIAGE TOGETHER THEY WERE ALSO VERY FRIENDLY AND 190 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:11,044 SUCCESSFUL AND GREGARIOUS. SO THEY SEEMED TO HAVE THE 191 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:14,748 PERFECT LIFE >> Reporter: GOOD FRIENDS, A 192 00:10:14,748 --> 00:10:16,883 CLOSE KNIT FAMILY. NOT TO MENTION THAT SPRAWLING 193 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:18,918 HOME ON SHALIMAR WAY A HOUSE IN THE CARIBBEAN, TOO. 194 00:10:18,918 --> 00:10:20,987 BUT MARY SAYS LESLIE DIDN'T FLAUNT IT. 195 00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:23,223 >> SO SHE HAD THE FANCY HOUSE BUT IT MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN A 196 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,657 SHACK? >> YEAH. 197 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:30,030 SHE WAS TOTALLY UNPRETENTIOUS. YEAH 198 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:34,234 DESPITE HER SOCIAL STATUS, SHE WAS VERY ABLE TO RELATE TO 199 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:37,404 ANYONE ON ANY LEVEL. >> Reporter: BOB WAS WELL-LIKED 200 00:10:37,404 --> 00:10:40,006 TOO. HE'D BUILT A SUCCESSFUL MEDICAL 201 00:10:40,006 --> 00:10:43,710 PRACTICE, WORKING HARD TO EARN A REPUTATION AS ONE OF THE TOP 202 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:46,346 OBGYNs IN THE AREA >> HE WAS DEFINITELY A VERY GOOD 203 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:49,582 DOCTOR AND HE DEFINITELY DELIVERED A 204 00:10:49,582 --> 00:10:52,218 LOT OF BABIES. >> Reporter: LESLIE'S FRIEND 205 00:10:52,218 --> 00:10:55,388 TERRI IS A LABOR AND DELIVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. 206 00:10:55,388 --> 00:10:58,224 >> WAS HE REALLY CALM UNDER PRESSURE 207 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:00,627 >> YES HE WAS VERY GOOD IN A -- IN AN 208 00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:03,797 EMERGENCY. >> Reporter: LESLIE HAD A CAREER 209 00:11:03,797 --> 00:11:06,399 IN MEDICINE, TOO SHE WAS A NURSE BEFORE GIVING IT 210 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:08,535 UP TO BE A STAY-AT-HOME MOM TO JENNA AND THEIR YOUNGER SON, 211 00:11:08,535 --> 00:11:10,670 ARI. SHE ALSO PLAYED STEP-MOM TO 212 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:14,607 BOB'S KIDS FROM HIS FIRST MARRIAGE 213 00:11:14,607 --> 00:11:17,844 >> ABSOLUTELY ADORED 'EM AND DEFINITELY MADE THEM THE 214 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:20,680 PRIORITY IN HER LIFE >> Reporter: AND THE KIDS' DEEP 215 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,550 AFFECTION FOR LESLIE IS CLEAR ON THIS TRIBUTE THEY MADE FOR HER 216 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:25,952 60th BIRTHDAY. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU 217 00:11:25,952 --> 00:11:28,188 I LOVE YOU >> Reporter: THE VIDEO WAS LATER 218 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:31,257 POSTED ON YOUTUBE, WHERE DAUGHTER JENNA AND HER 219 00:11:31,257 --> 00:11:34,394 STEP-SISTER JOKED ABOUT LESLIE'S UNFORGETTABLE NEW YORK ACCENT. 220 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:37,097 >> SHE'S LIKE, "HOW DOES EVERYONE KNOW I'M FROM NEW YORK? 221 00:11:37,097 --> 00:11:40,166 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW DOES EVERYONE KNOW I'M FROM 222 00:11:40,166 --> 00:11:41,768 NEW YORK?" >> YEAH. 223 00:11:41,768 --> 00:11:44,904 I DON'T KNOW, MOM. YOU KNOW, LIKE - 224 00:11:44,904 --> 00:11:47,540 >> HMM >> Reporter: IT WAS THAT ACCENT 225 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:49,709 THAT DREW FRIEND NEVIN ROBI TO HER. 226 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:52,278 THEY MET ONE DAY WHILE WAITING IN LINE AT STARBUCKS 227 00:11:52,278 --> 00:11:54,014 >> SHE WAS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME. 228 00:11:54,014 --> 00:11:56,516 LOUD BIG HAIR 229 00:11:56,516 --> 00:11:59,152 YOU KNOW, LONG ISLAND ACCENT >> YOU RECOGNIZED IT RIGHT AWAY. 230 00:11:59,152 --> 00:12:00,754 >> OH, IMMEDIATELY I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY COULD'VE 231 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:03,390 HEARD HER A HALF BLOCK AWAY EASILY 232 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:06,092 >> Reporter: THEY IMMEDIATELY HIT IT OFF, LIKE LESLIE DID WITH 233 00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:07,727 SO MANY OTHERS IN TOWN >> I USED TO JOKE WITH HER, SHE 234 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:09,696 SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR OF SYRACUSE 235 00:12:09,696 --> 00:12:13,333 EVERYONE HERE KNOWS YOU. EVERYONE 236 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,934 >> Reporter: LESLIE AND BOB WERE ALSO KNOWN FOR THEIR 237 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:17,537 CONTRIBUTIONS TO LOCAL CHARITIES. 238 00:12:17,537 --> 00:12:20,707 >> WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THEM THAT THEY WANTED TO GIVE BACK 239 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:21,941 >> I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY ONE 240 00:12:21,941 --> 00:12:25,478 FEELS WHEN YOU LIVE IN A SMALL COMMUNITY. 241 00:12:25,478 --> 00:12:28,081 >> Reporter: A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT EXTENDED TO 242 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:31,418 THEIR DEAREST FRIENDS. FRIENDS LIKE MARY. 243 00:12:31,418 --> 00:12:33,420 SHE'D HAD A ROUGH YEAR WAS HOSPITALIZED AFTER 244 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:36,089 COMPLICATIONS FROM A SERIOUS FALL 245 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:39,192 THE NEULANDERS WERE RIGHT THERE TO SUPPORT HER 246 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:43,897 >> THE WHOLE FAMILY CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE TO WELCOME ME BACK. 247 00:12:43,897 --> 00:12:46,099 AND ALL FOUR -- BOB, LESLIE, JENNA, ARI -- WERE ALL THERE 248 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:50,270 >> YOU COULD HAVE DIED >> YES 249 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:56,109 I WAS VERY CLOSE TO DEATH. SHE HUGGED ME AND KISSED ME AND 250 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,677 SAID, "IT'S AMAZING TO THINK THAT A LITTLE FALL LIKE THAT 251 00:12:57,677 --> 00:13:00,814 COULD CAUSE YOU SO MUCH TROUBLE. 252 00:13:00,814 --> 00:13:04,050 >> WOW NOW THOSE ARE KIND OF PROPHETIC 253 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:08,221 WORDS? SAD, REALLY. 254 00:13:08,221 --> 00:13:10,357 YES. >> Reporter: LESLIE'S FATAL FALL 255 00:13:10,357 --> 00:13:13,493 HAPPENED JUST TWO DAYS AFTER THAT VISIT 256 00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:18,231 >> DID THAT SEEM ODD TO YOU THAT YOU HAD JUST GONE THROUGH THIS 257 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:22,435 LIFE-CHANGING EVENT WITH A FALL AND NOW HERE YOUR CLOSE FRIEND 258 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:24,537 IS -- HAS DIED FROM A FALL >> WELL, IT'S -- I CERTAINLY 259 00:13:24,537 --> 00:13:26,639 ASKED THE QUESTION THAT EVERYONE ASKS 260 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,742 WHY NOW? WHY ME 261 00:13:28,742 --> 00:13:31,945 WHY MY FRIEND? SHE'S 60 YEARS OLD, SHE'S VERY 262 00:13:31,945 --> 00:13:35,615 HEALTHY, SHE'S ATHLETIC, SHE'S STRONG. 263 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:40,387 WELL, QUIRKY, WEIRD THINGS DO HAPPEN 264 00:13:40,387 --> 00:13:43,089 >> Reporter: MARY HAD NO IDEA AT THE TIME HOW MUCH HER FRIEND'S 265 00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:47,761 DEATH WOULD CONSUME HER, OR THE ROLE SHE WOULD BE ASKED TO PLAY 266 00:13:47,761 --> 00:13:51,464 TO SOLVE A MYSTERY >>> COMING UP -- 267 00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:55,101 A DISTRAUGHT DAUGHTER TELLS POLICE WHAT SHE SAW. 268 00:13:55,101 --> 00:14:00,940 >> HE KEEPS GRABBING FOR THE BLANKET TO COVER HER 269 00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:02,542 >> AND SUSPICIONS BEGIN. >> THE ROOM HAD A LOT OF BLOOD 270 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:05,111 IN IT. >> DID THAT STRIKE YOU AS ODD AT 271 00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:07,213 ALL? >> I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY 272 00:14:07,213 --> 00:14:24,064 UNUSUAL. >> Reporter: LESLIE NEULANDER'S 273 00:14:24,064 --> 00:14:26,166 DEATH HAD BEEN RULED AN ACCIDENT 274 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:28,802 FOR JENNA NEULANDER, AN ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING LOSS. 275 00:14:28,802 --> 00:14:30,904 >> I THINK SHE REALLY RELIED ON HER MOM. 276 00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:33,540 I THINK HER MOTHER WAS HER REAL ROCK 277 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:35,108 >> Reporter: DID THEY HAVE ONE OF THOSE MOTHER-DAUGHTER 278 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:36,643 RELATIONSHIPS -- >> YEAH, VERY SPECIAL. 279 00:14:36,643 --> 00:14:38,712 >> Reporter: -- WHERE THEY COULD TALK ABOUT ANYTHING? 280 00:14:38,712 --> 00:14:40,847 >> VERY MUCH >> Reporter: TERRI HAD RUSHED TO 281 00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:43,483 THE NEULANDER HOUSE AS SOON AS SHE HEARD THE NEWS, ARRIVING 282 00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:46,219 JUST AS POLICE WERE LEAVING. >> THE FAMILY IS IN THE LIVING 283 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:49,356 ROOM AND EVERYBODY'S OBVIOUSLY, YOU 284 00:14:49,356 --> 00:14:52,559 KNOW, VERY UPSET AND CRYING AND HUGGIN' EACH OTHER 285 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,661 >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN YOU WALK INTO A SITUATION 286 00:14:54,661 --> 00:14:59,432 LIKE THAT? >> "I'M REALLY SORRY 287 00:14:59,432 --> 00:15:02,068 I'M JUST VERY SORRY. >> Reporter: SHE WAS THERE TO 288 00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:05,572 SUPPORT THE FAMILY AND HAPPY TO HELP LATER THAT EVENING WHEN 289 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:07,874 JENNA ASKED FOR A FAVOR. >> SHE ASKED ME IF I WOULD MAKE 290 00:15:07,874 --> 00:15:10,510 SURE THAT -- THAT THERE WASN'T BLOOD ON THE FLOOR IN THE 291 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:13,046 MOTHER'S ROOM -- IN HER MOTHER'S ROOM BEFORE I LEFT 292 00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,081 >> Reporter: BLOOD IN HER MOTHER'S ROOM? 293 00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:17,317 TERRI DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. SHE THOUGHT LESLIE HAD FALLEN IN 294 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:19,452 THE SHOWER SHE PULLED THE NEULANDER'S 295 00:15:19,452 --> 00:15:22,856 HOUSEKEEPER ASIDE. WHAT DID SHE SAY ABOUT THE 296 00:15:22,856 --> 00:15:25,792 SITUATION? >> SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE 297 00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:29,496 ROOM HAD A LOT OF BLOOD IN IT AND THAT THEY TRIED CLEANING AND 298 00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:32,098 CAN'T -- COULDN'T GET IT ALL UP. >> Reporter: DID THAT STRIKE YOU 299 00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:34,734 AS ODD AT ALL? >> I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY UNUSUAL 300 00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:37,904 BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT A CLOSED HEAD INJURY FROM A FALL 301 00:15:37,904 --> 00:15:40,540 IN THE SHOWER WOULD HAVE ANY BLOOD. 302 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:44,844 >> Reporter: TERRI, THE TRAINED NURSE, DECIDED TO SEE FOR 303 00:15:44,844 --> 00:15:47,480 HERSELF. SHE GOT A CHILL THE MINUTE SHE 304 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,084 CROSSED THE THRESHOLD. THERE WAS BLOOD IN THE BEDROOM, 305 00:15:51,084 --> 00:15:53,720 POOLS AND POOLS OF IT. THE HOUSEKEEPER WAS ALSO 306 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,089 PERPLEXED. >> SHE SAID THIS JUST DOESN'T 307 00:15:56,089 --> 00:15:58,925 MAKE SENSE THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE 308 00:15:58,925 --> 00:16:01,561 >> Reporter: TOGETHER THEY GOT DOWN ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES 309 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:03,730 AND TRIED TO CLEAN UP THE BLOOD. BUT THERE WAS JUST TOO MUCH OF 310 00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:05,799 IT AND IT WAS SOAKED DEEP INTO THE 311 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:07,901 CARPET OH, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE 312 00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:09,502 THAT MUST HAVE BEEN -- >> IT WAS -- 313 00:16:09,502 --> 00:16:11,604 >> Reporter: -- AWFUL. >> IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL 314 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,707 IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. >> Reporter: ALL THE WHILE, A 315 00:16:13,707 --> 00:16:15,809 DISTURBING THOUGHT WAS TAKING ROOT 316 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:18,445 ONE TERRI DARED NOT SAY OUT LOUD 317 00:16:18,445 --> 00:16:21,681 WHERE DOES YOUR MIND GO FROM THERE? 318 00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:25,885 >> TO THE OBVIOUS, I THINK THAT -- THAT LESLIE'S BEEN 319 00:16:25,885 --> 00:16:29,055 KILLED YOU -- YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT 320 00:16:29,055 --> 00:16:31,624 WHEN THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE >> Reporter: TERRI DIDN'T KNOW 321 00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:34,761 KNOW THAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER HAD ALREADY INVESTIGATED AT THE 322 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:38,498 SCENE AND RULED THE DEATH AN ACCIDENT, OR THAT BOB HAD GIVEN 323 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:42,235 AN EXPLANATION FOR ALL THAT BLOOD, SAYING HE MOVED THE BODY. 324 00:16:42,235 --> 00:16:44,871 HER MIND RACED AS SHE WENT BACK DOWNSTAIRS TO COMFORT THE 325 00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:48,074 FAMILY >> I THINK I JUST BLOCKED IT 326 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:50,143 I JUST BLOCKED IT. >> Reporter: WERE YOU BEING A 327 00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:51,711 LITTLE BIT OF AN ACTRESS IN A WAY THAT I - 328 00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:54,547 >> OH, SURE. DEFINITELY 329 00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:56,483 DEFINITELY >> Reporter: "I HAVE TO BE 330 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:58,585 SOMETHING I'M NOT RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO FEEL SOMETHING OR 331 00:16:58,585 --> 00:17:01,221 EXPRESS SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT FEELING. 332 00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:04,357 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: TERRI HAD TO KEEP A 333 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:07,494 STRAIGHT FACE BECAUSE, SHE SAYS, LESLIE'S FAMILY SEEMED SO 334 00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:09,095 CERTAIN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. THAT INCLUDED DAUGHTER JENNA 335 00:17:09,095 --> 00:17:11,197 WHO'D BEEN IN THE ROOM THAT MORNING. 336 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:13,299 IT WAS JUST A FALL IN THE SHOWER 337 00:17:13,299 --> 00:17:14,434 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: THAT -- "MY MOM 338 00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:17,570 DIED IN AN ACCIDENT. >> YEAH. 339 00:17:17,570 --> 00:17:19,239 AND IT WAS LEFT AT THAT. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT JENNA 340 00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:22,876 TOLD POLICE WHEN SHE GAVE THEM A FORMAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE 341 00:17:22,876 --> 00:17:25,512 ACCIDENT >> HE WAS LIKE, "MOM -- MOM'S 342 00:17:25,512 --> 00:17:27,113 ON -- SHE IS ON THE GROUND SHE'S ON - 343 00:17:27,113 --> 00:17:30,784 SHE'S IN THE SHOWER. SHE'S ON THE GROUND. 344 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:33,386 AND HE HAD HER ROBE OVER HER, AND HE WAS SCREAMING THAT SHE'S 345 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:38,692 GETTING REALLY COLD. SHE'S GETTING REALLY COLD. 346 00:17:38,692 --> 00:17:44,064 AND HE KEEPS GRABBING FOR THE BLANKET TO COVER HER 347 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:48,735 I THINK HE SAID, LIKE "IS SOMEONE COMING TO HELP US? 348 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:52,839 OH, MY GOD IT FELT LIKE HOURS 349 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:56,676 >> IT FELT LIKE FOREVER, SURE. >> Reporter: THE TRAGIC ACCIDENT 350 00:17:56,676 --> 00:18:00,347 WAS BIG NEWS IN SYRACUSE MEGAN COLEMAN IS AN ANCHOR AT 351 00:18:00,347 --> 00:18:03,550 NBC AFFILIATE WSTM SHE SAYS EVERYONE WAS AS SHOCKED 352 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:06,686 BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES AS THEY WERE SYMPATHETIC TO 353 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:10,924 DR. NEULANDER. >> TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE 354 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:14,160 HAVE A CONNECTION TO THIS MAN. HE HAD BEEN AT THE BEDSIDE WHEN 355 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,331 ALL THESE WOMEN WERE BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN INTO THE WORLD. 356 00:18:18,331 --> 00:18:20,934 PEOPLE LOVED HIM >> Reporter: NOT ONLY DID MEGAN 357 00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:23,536 REPORT ON THE NEULANDER STORY, BUT LIKE SO MANY IN THIS TOWN, 358 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:27,273 SHE ALSO KNEW THE DOCTOR PERSONALLY 359 00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:31,311 A FEW MONTHS BEFORE LESLIE DIED, HE TOOK PART IN A CEREMONY FOR 360 00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:33,046 MEGAN'S NEWBORN SON. LESLIE WAS THERE, TOO. 361 00:18:33,046 --> 00:18:36,216 >> THEY WERE WARM. THEY WERE ENGAGING 362 00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:39,386 SHE HAD THIS BEAUTIFUL SMILE NO ONE WOULD EVER HAVE THOUGHT 363 00:18:39,386 --> 00:18:42,055 THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN TO HER 364 00:18:42,055 --> 00:18:46,226 AND I THINK, GENERALLY, EVERYONE WAS JUST STUNNED 365 00:18:46,226 --> 00:18:48,361 >> Reporter: DURING SHIVA, THE JEWISH MOURNING PERIOD, FRIENDS 366 00:18:48,361 --> 00:18:51,064 AND FAMILY CAME IN DROVES TO SUPPORT BOB. 367 00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:55,168 MARY JUMBELIC WAS STILL BED-RIDDEN AFTER HER OWN FALL, 368 00:18:55,168 --> 00:18:57,771 SO HER HUSBAND WENT ALONE. >> SO HE WENT OVER TO VISIT, TO 369 00:18:57,771 --> 00:19:02,008 REPRESENT OUR FAMILY, TO TALK TO THE FAMILY 370 00:19:02,008 --> 00:19:05,645 >> Reporter: HOW WAS BOB COPING? >> WITHDRAWN, REALLY 371 00:19:05,645 --> 00:19:09,883 >> Reporter: IT'S ALMOST LIKE LOSING YOUR COMPASS? 372 00:19:09,883 --> 00:19:13,453 >> YES >> THERE WAS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 373 00:19:13,453 --> 00:19:16,289 EVERY DAY AT THE HOUSE, BRINGING FOOD AND STAYING FOR SEVERAL 374 00:19:16,289 --> 00:19:20,026 HOURS. BY THE END OF THE -- THE 375 00:19:20,026 --> 00:19:21,528 EVENING, BOB WAS VERY ANNOYED BY HAVING PEOPLE STILL IN HIS 376 00:19:21,528 --> 00:19:24,698 HOUSE, AND HE WAS GLAD TO SEE IT END. 377 00:19:24,698 --> 00:19:26,900 >> Reporter: TERRI VISITED THE NEULANDERS FREQUENTLY THAT FIRST 378 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:30,370 WEEK SHE SAYS SHE WAS EVEN AT THE 379 00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:32,639 HOUSE WHEN BOB GOT A PHONE CALL LETTING HIM KNOW THAT LESLIE'S 380 00:19:32,639 --> 00:19:35,308 DEATH WAS OFFICIALLY BEING FILED AS AN ACCIDENT 381 00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:37,911 >> I THOUGHT, "WELL, THEN THIS IS A CLOSED CASE." 382 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:40,513 >> Reporter: AND EVERYBODY'S ACCEPTING IT 383 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:43,116 >> SEEMS TO BE >> Reporter: BUT TERRI COULDN'T 384 00:19:43,116 --> 00:19:46,286 LET IT GO. NOT FOR HER FRIEND, LESLIE 385 00:19:46,286 --> 00:19:48,054 DID YOU EVER FEEL LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DETECTIVE OR SOMETHING 386 00:19:48,054 --> 00:19:52,125 THAT YOU WERE -- >> I DID 387 00:19:52,125 --> 00:19:55,862 I FELT LIKE THEY'RE -- PEOPLE AREN'T -- AREN'T PUTTIN' THE 388 00:19:55,862 --> 00:20:02,202 PIECES TO THIS PUZZLE TOGETHER AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO THAT. 389 00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:03,770 >>> COMING UP -- >> WHERE DO YOU GO, AND WHAT DO 390 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:06,406 YOU DO >> HAUNTED BY DOUBT, TERRI 391 00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,541 REACHES OUT. >> I SAID, "YOU SHOULD GO TO THE 392 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:10,643 POLICE." >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE 393 00:20:10,643 --> 00:20:12,212 BY GOING TO THE POLICE, THIS WILL PUT AN END TO IT? 394 00:20:12,212 --> 00:20:31,297 >> YES >> Reporter: A MONTH HAD PASSED 395 00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,933 SINCE THE HEARTBREAKING DEATH OF LESLIE NEULANDER 396 00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:36,102 THAT'S JUST ABOUT WHEN THE FRIEND SHE'D MET AT STARBUCKS, 397 00:20:36,102 --> 00:20:39,205 NEVIN ROBI, LEARNED SHE WAS GONE 398 00:20:39,205 --> 00:20:41,307 THEY'D BEEN CLOSE BUT RAN IN DIFFERENT CIRCLES, HAD DIFFERENT 399 00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:43,910 FRIENDS. NO ONE KNEW TO CALL HIM ABOUT 400 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:47,080 THE FUNERAL. >> IT WAS, LIKE, A MONDAY. 401 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,283 AND I JUST REMEMBER -- I JUST WOKE UP AN HOUR BEFORE MY ALARM. 402 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:52,352 AND I JUST WENT OVER TO MY COMPUTER, AND I JUST TYPED HER 403 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:56,623 FIRST AND LAST NAME IN AND THERE WAS HER OBITUARY 404 00:20:56,623 --> 00:20:59,225 AND I WAS, LIKE, IN SHOCK. >> Reporter: WHAT WAS IT THAT 405 00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:01,294 WAS MAKING YOU FEEL THAT YOU - >> I -- I HAVE NO IDEA 406 00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:02,562 >> Reporter: THERE -- SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING THAT YOU NEEDED TO 407 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:05,632 SEARCH THAT DAY? >> I -- I DON'T KNOW 408 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:06,700 I REALLY DON'T KNOW. AND I JUST, LIKE, STARED AT THE 409 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,368 COMPUTER SCREEN. AND I WAS LIKE, "THIS CAN'T BE 410 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:10,303 REAL." >> Reporter: TERRI HAD BEEN IN 411 00:21:10,303 --> 00:21:13,440 SHOCK AT FIRST, TOO. BUT NOW THAT HAD BEEN REPLACED 412 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,609 BY A DEEP SENSE OF UNEASE. TO HER, THE FALL IN THE SHOWER 413 00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,813 STORY JUST DIDN'T ADD UP >> YOU'RE JUST KINDA WAITING FOR 414 00:21:19,813 --> 00:21:22,415 YOUR PHONE TO RING AND SOMEBODY ELSE TO CALL AND SAY, "I THINK 415 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:25,085 WHAT YOU THINK AND WHAT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT DO 416 00:21:25,085 --> 00:21:28,221 YOU THINK HAPPENED?" BUT WEEKS TURN INTO MONTHS, AND 417 00:21:28,221 --> 00:21:29,823 NOBODY'S DOING THAT. >> Reporter: TERRI HELPED 418 00:21:29,823 --> 00:21:32,092 LESLIE'S SISTER CLEAR SOME OF LESLIE'S THINGS OUT OF THE 419 00:21:32,092 --> 00:21:33,493 HOUSE. DID SHE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON 420 00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:35,228 WHAT HAD HAPPENED OR - >> SHE NEVER DISCUSSED IT. 421 00:21:35,228 --> 00:21:37,497 >> Reporter: AND YOU DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING UP -- 422 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:39,332 >> NO. I -- 423 00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:41,534 >> Reporter: -- YOUR SUSPICIONS? >> NO, I JUST ASSUMED SHE WOULD 424 00:21:41,534 --> 00:21:44,104 BRING IT UP TO ME. >> Reporter: IT ALL LEFT TERRI 425 00:21:44,104 --> 00:21:46,473 IN A VERY LONELY PLACE DID THAT WEIGH ON YOU, THAT 426 00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:49,309 FEELING OF, "MAYBE IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS"? 427 00:21:49,309 --> 00:21:51,378 >> UM, NO. IT NEVER WEIGHED ON ME THAT IT'S 428 00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:53,113 NOT MY BUSINESS. IT WEIGHED ON ME -- WHY AREN'T 429 00:21:53,113 --> 00:21:57,183 PEOPLE DOING ANYTHING? YOU KNOW 430 00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:59,652 AND THERE WAS SOME CERTAINLY HESITANCY BECAUSE YOU DON'T 431 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,421 WANNA BE THE PERSON THAT'S OUT THERE BEIN' JUDGED BY THE WHOLE 432 00:22:01,421 --> 00:22:03,123 COMMUNITY. LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU GOING AGAINST 433 00:22:03,123 --> 00:22:06,693 THEM?" THAT'S NOT A GOOD POSITION TO BE 434 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:09,429 IN FOR ANYBODY >> Reporter: ARE YOU JUST EVERY 435 00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:10,964 DAY WAKING UP AND THIS IS, LIKE, ON YOUR BRAIN? 436 00:22:10,964 --> 00:22:13,066 >> MORNING, NOON, AND NIGHT. UH-HUH 437 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,101 AND THAT'S WHAT I STRUGGLED WITH FOR A VERY LONG TIME 438 00:22:15,101 --> 00:22:18,371 WHERE DO YOU GO? AND WHAT DO YOU DO 439 00:22:18,371 --> 00:22:21,074 >> Reporter: SHE REACHED OUT TO HER PRIEST FOR ADVICE. 440 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:23,109 HE SUGGESTED SHE CALL THE POLICE 441 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:25,779 BUT TERRI BELIEVED THE CASE WAS CLOSED 442 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:28,415 THEN SHE DECIDED TO TRY SOMEONE ELSE 443 00:22:28,415 --> 00:22:32,585 >> I THOUGHT THAT SHE WOULD BE THE PERFECT PERSON TO ASK. 444 00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:35,755 >> Reporter: A YEAR EARLIER, TERRI HAD GONE TO A BOOK CLUB 445 00:22:35,755 --> 00:22:37,857 MEETING AT LESLIE'S HOUSE. THE PLOT OF THE BOOK INVOLVED A 446 00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:40,493 CORONER. >> I BELIEVE IT WAS A STORY THAT 447 00:22:40,493 --> 00:22:43,129 TOOK PLACE IN ENGLAND. IT WAS DEFINITELY AN INTERESTING 448 00:22:43,129 --> 00:22:45,298 BOOK >> Reporter: AND IT JUST SO 449 00:22:45,298 --> 00:22:48,935 HAPPENED THAT THERE WAS A REAL-LIFE MEDICAL EXAMINER IN 450 00:22:48,935 --> 00:22:52,672 THE CLUB, AN EXPERT ON DEATH >> AND I REMEMBER MARY SAYING, 451 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:54,808 "YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT 452 00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:58,978 YOU'RE WONDERING, YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK ME." 453 00:22:58,978 --> 00:23:03,216 >> Reporter: MARY IS THE MARY YOU KNOW -- MARY JUMBELIC. 454 00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:06,419 SHE IS NOT JUST A FRIEND OF LESLIE'S, BUT ALSO A DOCTOR, THE 455 00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:09,055 RETIRED CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER FOR ONONDAGA COUNTY WHERE THE 456 00:23:09,055 --> 00:23:11,691 NEULANDERS LIVED DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BOOK 457 00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:13,693 AFTER LESLIE DIED? >> UM, I ONLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT 458 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:17,397 BECAUSE OF MARY. YES. 459 00:23:17,397 --> 00:23:19,065 I THOUGHT ABOUT IF MARY -- MARY COULD EXPLAIN THIS 460 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:20,600 >> Reporter: THE WHOLE SITUATION WITH LESLIE. 461 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,602 >> CORRECT YES. 462 00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:24,871 >> Reporter: TERRI PICKED UP THE PHONE. 463 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:26,473 WAS THAT A HARD CALL TO MAKE, EVEN TO MARY 464 00:23:26,473 --> 00:23:28,141 >> OH, IT -- IT -- >> Reporter: FINALLY OPENING UP 465 00:23:28,141 --> 00:23:29,609 ABOUT THESE FEELING YOU'RE HAVING 466 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,711 >> IT WAS. IT WAS TOUGH 467 00:23:31,711 --> 00:23:33,279 IT DEFINITELY WAS TOUGH. >> Reporter: BUT IT MUST'VE BEEN 468 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,415 NAGGING AT YOU SO HARD THAT YOU JUST HAD TO? 469 00:23:35,415 --> 00:23:37,517 >> YES I THINK THAT THAT'S HOW I FELT 470 00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:40,186 LIKE, NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING FOR LESLIE 471 00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:44,958 AND I'M -- AM I GONNA JUST SIT BACK AND LET THIS HAPPEN 472 00:23:44,958 --> 00:23:48,661 OR IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS AND AND 473 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:51,831 KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS 474 00:23:51,831 --> 00:23:55,001 >> Reporter: TO SAY MARY WAS SKEPTICAL WOULD BE AN 475 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:56,569 UNDERSTATEMENT 20-PLUS YEARS OF CRIMINAL 476 00:23:56,569 --> 00:24:07,647 JUSTICE EXPERIENCE TOLD HER TERRI WAS PROBABLY WAY OFF BASE. 477 00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:09,749 >> I HAD FAITH IN THE SYSTEM AND THAT I KNEW THERE HAD -- HAD TO 478 00:24:09,749 --> 00:24:11,384 HAVE BEEN SOME INVESTIGATION CONCERNING THE DEATH 479 00:24:11,384 --> 00:24:14,487 AND IF THERE WAS ANYTHING, THEN IT WOULD HAVE COME OUT 480 00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:16,589 THERE -- THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME NEWS ABOUT IT 481 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:17,691 AND THERE HAD BEEN NOTHING I THOUGHT, "I'M NOT SURE WHY 482 00:24:17,691 --> 00:24:20,760 YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW. 483 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,395 >> Reporter: I WOULD IMAGINE MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY, "COME ON, 484 00:24:22,395 --> 00:24:24,497 NO, IT'S BOB SHE FELL IN THE SHOWER 485 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:27,667 LEAVE IT ALONE." >> RIGHT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 486 00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:30,270 WHAT I SAID. >> Reporter: PLUS SHE KNEW FROM 487 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:32,706 HER OWN RECENT FALL JUST HOW EASILY ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN. 488 00:24:32,706 --> 00:24:34,941 >> IT HAPPENED TO ME I FELL 489 00:24:34,941 --> 00:24:37,577 WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD GET SO SICK? 490 00:24:37,577 --> 00:24:40,246 IT'S VERY, VERY SAD. BUT THINGS DO HAPPEN 491 00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:42,882 >> Reporter: STILL, HER TRAINING TOLD HER IT WAS IMPORTANT TO 492 00:24:42,882 --> 00:24:47,253 HEAR TERRI OUT >> WHEN I WAS MEDICAL EXAMINER, 493 00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:49,856 I WOULD HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS COMING IN TO TELL ME ABOUT WHAT 494 00:24:49,856 --> 00:24:51,958 THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH 495 00:24:51,958 --> 00:24:54,594 AND I ALWAYS TOOK THOSE VISITS VERY SERIOUSLY 496 00:24:54,594 --> 00:24:57,230 YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT SOMEONE'S SAYING, WHETHER OR NOT 497 00:24:57,230 --> 00:25:00,934 THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY 498 00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:03,069 HAVE THE FORENSIC DETAIL >> Reporter: SO MARY LISTENED 499 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:06,706 INTENTLY AS TERRI DESCRIBED THE BLOOD SHE SAW IN THE BEDROOM 500 00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:10,910 IN THE END, MARY DIDN'T FEEL ALARMED AT ALL 501 00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:13,546 >> NOTHING STRUCK ME THAT I NEEDED TO MAKE SOMEONE AWARE OF 502 00:25:13,546 --> 00:25:16,349 THESE CONCERNS >> I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE WAS 503 00:25:16,349 --> 00:25:19,753 RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND -- AND MAYBE I AM 504 00:25:19,753 --> 00:25:22,555 JUMPIN' TO THE WRONG CONCLUSION. >> Reporter: STILL, GIVEN HOW 505 00:25:22,555 --> 00:25:27,293 DISTURBED TERRI SEEMED TO BE, MARY OFFERED HER A SUGGESTION. 506 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:30,430 >> I SAID, "YOU SHOULD GO TO THE POLICE AND MAKE STATEMENTS IF 507 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:35,168 YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS YOU REALLY NEED TO JUST TELL 508 00:25:35,168 --> 00:25:38,872 SOMEONE OFFICIALLY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE, BECAUSE TELLING ME 509 00:25:38,872 --> 00:25:41,074 IN THIS INFORMAL MANNER IS -- I -- I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA 510 00:25:41,074 --> 00:25:43,276 GET PAST IT. >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE, 511 00:25:43,276 --> 00:25:44,744 BY GOING TO THE POLICE, THIS WILL PUT AN END TO IT -- 512 00:25:44,744 --> 00:25:47,113 >> YES >> Reporter: -- AND WE CAN CLEAR 513 00:25:47,113 --> 00:25:50,550 THE AIR AND MOVE ON? >> YES, I DID. 514 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:53,219 >>> COMING UP -- >> TWO DAYS AFTER HER DEATH, AN 515 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,354 INVESTIGATOR RECEIVED AN ANONYMOUS LETTER REGARDING THIS 516 00:25:54,354 --> 00:25:56,790 CASE >> Reporter: WHAT'S IN THE 517 00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:57,957 LETTER >> SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR 518 00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,560 PERSONAL LIFE. >> DID THIS LETTER WRITER HAVE 519 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,029 SECRETS TO REVEAL? >> Reporter: IS YOUR DETECTIVE 520 00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:05,865 SENSE STARTING TO TINGLE A LITTLE BIT 521 00:26:05,865 --> 00:26:23,750 >> WELL, YEAH, IT IS >> Reporter: IN THE WEEKS AFTER 522 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,319 LESLIE NEULANDER'S DEATH, TERRI BARR FOUND HERSELF 523 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:31,057 INCREASINGLY ANGRY HER FRIEND LESLIE WAS TOO 524 00:26:31,057 --> 00:26:34,194 LIVELY, TOO YOUNG TO BE GONE >> I FELT ROBBED 525 00:26:34,194 --> 00:26:36,830 >> Reporter: WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT, AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WERE 526 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:38,965 GONNA MISS OUT ON WITH YOUR FRIEND 527 00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:43,269 >> JUST BEING ABLE TO RUN THINGS BY HER 528 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:44,504 >> Reporter: NOT BEING ABLE TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL YOUR 529 00:26:44,504 --> 00:26:46,139 FRIEND - >> SURE. 530 00:26:46,139 --> 00:26:48,441 DEFINITELY >> Reporter: -- TO TALK ABOUT 531 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:50,810 ALL THE THINGS YOU WOULD HAVE -- >> THE FINALITY -- 532 00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:52,078 >> Reporter: -- TALKED ABOUT >> -- OF IT ALL. 533 00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:53,680 UH-HUH >> Reporter: THERE WAS -- THERE 534 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,281 WAS NO GOOD-BYE. >> YES 535 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:57,384 AND I THINK THERE'S NO GOOD-BYE IN A VERY TRAGIC WAY 536 00:26:57,384 --> 00:27:00,553 >> Reporter: AND SHE WASN'T UPSET JUST FOR HERSELF, BUT FOR 537 00:27:00,553 --> 00:27:01,688 LESLIE, TOO. ALL THOSE SUNSET MILESTONES HER 538 00:27:01,688 --> 00:27:05,825 FRIEND WOULD NEVER GET TO EXPERIENCE 539 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:09,029 >> SEEING JENNA GET MARRIED AND SEEING HER -- HER KIDS GROW UP 540 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:11,664 AND HAVE THEIR OWN FAMILIES. I THINK THAT WAS HUGE. 541 00:27:11,664 --> 00:27:14,801 DEFINITELY SHE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE 542 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,037 TIMES. >> Reporter: HER FRIEND MARY, 543 00:27:17,037 --> 00:27:19,506 THE TRAINED MEDICAL EXAMINER, HAD DISMISSED TERRI'S 544 00:27:19,506 --> 00:27:22,676 SUSPICIONS BUT TERRI WAS MEDICALLY TRAINED 545 00:27:22,676 --> 00:27:25,612 HERSELF. AND AS BOB'S NURSE WHO'D WORKED 546 00:27:25,612 --> 00:27:29,082 ALONGSIDE HIM FOR YEARS, SOMETHING NAGGED AT HER. 547 00:27:29,082 --> 00:27:31,718 BOB'S DECISION TO MOVE LESLIE TO THE BEDROOM FOR CPR. 548 00:27:31,718 --> 00:27:39,192 >> BOB WAS VERY GOOD IN AN EMERGENCY. 549 00:27:39,192 --> 00:27:43,329 AND IT IS INSTINCT, FAMILY OR NOT, TO KICK INTO SAVING MODE. 550 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:46,466 AND WE ALL KNOW NOT TO MOVE A BODY 551 00:27:46,466 --> 00:27:49,602 >> Reporter: TERRI FELT CERTAIN THAT BOB WAS HIDING SOMETHING. 552 00:27:49,602 --> 00:27:52,272 AND THOUGH SHE TRIED NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT, SHE BEGAN TO 553 00:27:52,272 --> 00:27:55,442 FEAR THAT SOMETHING SINISTER HAD HAPPENED, THAT MAYBE 554 00:27:55,442 --> 00:27:59,612 DR. NEULANDER HAD KILLED HIS WIFE 555 00:27:59,612 --> 00:28:04,884 >> I WAS JUST CRUSHED FOR HER. I WAS JUST VERY CRUSHED THAT YOU 556 00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:08,588 THINK YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, TRUST SOMEBODY AND -- AND THEY'RE NOT 557 00:28:08,588 --> 00:28:11,758 WHO YOU THINK THEY ARE AND HOW -- HOW AWFUL THAT 558 00:28:11,758 --> 00:28:15,028 MUST'VE BEEN FOR HER >> Reporter: BUT WITH THE 559 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:17,597 COMMUNITY RALLYING AROUND THE DOCTOR, TERRI MOSTLY KEPT THOSE 560 00:28:17,597 --> 00:28:20,233 THOUGHTS TO HERSELF. DID FRIENDS AND FAMILY SEE BOB 561 00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:23,403 AS THE GRIEVING HUSBAND? >> YES, THEY DEFINITELY DID. 562 00:28:23,403 --> 00:28:26,539 I THINK DEFINITELY HE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT 563 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:28,608 >> Reporter: A FEW MONTHS AFTER LESLIE'S DEATH, TERRI STILL 564 00:28:28,608 --> 00:28:32,312 HADN'T TAKEN THE ADVICE TO GO SPEAK TO THE POLICE. 565 00:28:32,312 --> 00:28:34,447 THEN SHE FOUND HERSELF UNEXPECTEDLY FACE-TO-FACE WITH 566 00:28:34,447 --> 00:28:39,152 AN OFFICER >> IT JUST HAPPENED 567 00:28:39,152 --> 00:28:41,755 COINCIDENTALLY THAT A POLICE OFFICER CAME INTO AN OFFICE THAT 568 00:28:41,755 --> 00:28:44,924 I WAS WORKING IN AND I ASKED HIM A COUPLE 569 00:28:44,924 --> 00:28:47,160 QUESTIONS. AND HE SAID, "I THINK YOU NEED 570 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,662 TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MY PARTNER." 571 00:28:49,662 --> 00:28:59,139 >> Reporter: WAS YOUR BIGGEST FEAR THAT THE FAMILY WOULD FIND 572 00:28:59,139 --> 00:29:00,807 OUT YOU -- >> YES 573 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,342 >> Reporter: -- WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? 574 00:29:02,342 --> 00:29:03,877 >> YES IT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. 575 00:29:03,877 --> 00:29:06,513 THAT WOULD BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. 576 00:29:06,513 --> 00:29:08,715 YES. >> Reporter: TO AVOID BEING SEEN 577 00:29:08,715 --> 00:29:10,817 AT THE POLICE STATION, TERRI ARRANGED FOR A DETECTIVE TO COME 578 00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:12,819 TO HER HOUSE HIS NAME IS SCOTT KAPRAL 579 00:29:12,819 --> 00:29:14,354 HE IS THE DETECTIVE WHO WAS AT THE SCENE THAT MORNING WITH 580 00:29:14,354 --> 00:29:15,922 SERGEANT NORTON, THE RESPONDING OFFICER. 581 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:18,558 >> I PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF WOUNDS OVER THE 22 YEARS OF 582 00:29:18,558 --> 00:29:19,392 MY CAREER FROM FALLS AND NOT FROM FALLS 583 00:29:19,392 --> 00:29:21,795 AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A WOUND THAT BAD. 584 00:29:21,795 --> 00:29:23,496 >> Reporter: BUT LIKE THE SERGEANT, HE DEFERRED TO THE 585 00:29:23,496 --> 00:29:25,465 MEDICAL EXAMINER >> WE'RE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT 586 00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:27,567 EXPERTS IN THE FIELD AND HE IS AN EXPERT. 587 00:29:27,567 --> 00:29:29,269 AND WE RESPECT HIM >> Reporter: AND I GUESS EVERY 588 00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:32,706 FALL IS DIFFERENT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 589 00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:36,576 >> Reporter: TERRI TOLD THE DETECTIVE HOW TORTURED SHE'D 590 00:29:36,576 --> 00:29:39,212 BEEN OVER LESLIE'S DEATH >> I SAID TO SCOTT, "MY LIFE IS 591 00:29:39,212 --> 00:29:42,382 LIVING 'DATELINE.' THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE I'M 592 00:29:42,382 --> 00:29:46,586 LIVING AND THIS NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, 593 00:29:46,586 --> 00:29:49,222 COME TO A CONCLUSION >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE 594 00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:52,158 COULDN'T SHARE DETAILS WITH TERRI, BUT IT TURNS OUT THE CASE 595 00:29:52,158 --> 00:29:55,595 WAS NOT COMPLETELY CLOSED. AND DESPITE ALL THE PUBLIC 596 00:29:55,595 --> 00:29:57,697 SUPPORT AND SYMPATHY FOR DR. NEULANDER, SHE WASN'T THE 597 00:29:57,697 --> 00:30:00,900 FIRST PERSON TO EXPRESS DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO 598 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,503 LESLIE >> WE STARTED TO HEAR SOME -- 599 00:30:03,503 --> 00:30:05,605 JUST SOME COMMENTS COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY 600 00:30:05,605 --> 00:30:09,142 NOTHING THAT WE WENT OUT AND SOLICITED. 601 00:30:09,142 --> 00:30:12,245 BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, VIA OTHER POLICE OFFICERS THAT MAY HAVE 602 00:30:12,245 --> 00:30:14,114 SEEN SOMEONE ELSE. >> Reporter: THE D.A.'S OFFICE 603 00:30:14,114 --> 00:30:17,283 HAD ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER >> TWO DAYS AFTER HER DEATH , 604 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,352 WE'RE CONTACTED BY AN INVESTIGATOR FROM THE DISTRICT 605 00:30:19,352 --> 00:30:28,328 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO ADVISES US THAT THEY RECEIVED AN ANONYMOUS 606 00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:30,430 LETTER REGARDING THIS CASE >> Reporter: WHAT IS IN THE 607 00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:31,564 LETTER AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE 608 00:30:31,564 --> 00:30:34,701 CASE >> THE LETTER BASICALLY OUTLINED 609 00:30:34,701 --> 00:30:36,269 SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL LIFE ENOUGH THAT WE 610 00:30:36,269 --> 00:30:37,837 WERE CLEAR THAT WHOEVER WROTE THE ANONYMOUS LETTER FELT THAT 611 00:30:37,837 --> 00:30:39,939 WE SHOULD CONTINUE LOOKING AT IT 612 00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:43,343 >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE LETTER, THIS WEALTHY POWER 613 00:30:43,343 --> 00:30:45,178 COUPLE WAS HAVING FINANCIAL PROBLEMS 614 00:30:45,178 --> 00:30:46,780 POLICE WANTED TO SPEAK TO WHOEVER WROTE IT 615 00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:50,316 WERE THERE ANY CLUES IN THE LETTER 616 00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,584 DID IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS MAYBE FROM A FAMILY FRIEND, A 617 00:30:51,584 --> 00:30:55,188 RELATIVE >> OBVIOUSLY THE -- THE LETTER 618 00:30:55,188 --> 00:30:57,791 WAS WRITTEN BY SOMEONE THAT HAD SOME SORT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR 619 00:30:57,791 --> 00:31:00,660 LIFE IT WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING 620 00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,595 SOMEONE DIDN'T MAKE UP >> Reporter: TRY AS THEY MIGHT, 621 00:31:02,595 --> 00:31:05,765 THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHO WROTE THE LETTER 622 00:31:05,765 --> 00:31:09,469 BUT NOW THE DETECTIVE WAS SITTING ACROSS FROM SOMEONE WHO 623 00:31:09,469 --> 00:31:12,639 KNEW THE NEULANDERS WELL TERRI CONFIRMED THAT DESPITE THE 624 00:31:12,639 --> 00:31:16,843 BEAUTIFUL HOME, BOB AND LESLIE HAD TAKEN A BIG FINANCIAL HIT. 625 00:31:16,843 --> 00:31:20,547 A BILLING DISPUTE HAD CAUSED THE AREA'S LARGEST HEALTH INSURER TO 626 00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:22,749 DROP BOB'S MEDICAL PRACTICE. TERRI, WHO WAS WORKING FOR HIM 627 00:31:22,749 --> 00:31:26,353 AT THE TIME, SAW THE STORM COMING 628 00:31:26,353 --> 00:31:29,122 >> I SAID, YOU KNOW, "IF YOU LOSE YOUR BLUE CROSS AND BLUE 629 00:31:29,122 --> 00:31:33,193 SHIELD PATIENTS, THAT'S A THIRD OF OUR PRACTICE. 630 00:31:33,193 --> 00:31:36,863 AND THAT MEANS LAYOFFS." SO HE SAID THAT I WAS THE ONLY 631 00:31:36,863 --> 00:31:40,000 PERSON THAT HAD PERCEIVED THAT AND THAT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENED. 632 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,102 >> Reporter: DR. NEULANDER HAD TO LET TERRI AND SEVERAL OTHERS 633 00:31:42,102 --> 00:31:45,305 GO >> I THINK HE GENUINELY FELT BAD 634 00:31:45,305 --> 00:31:49,109 AND HOPED THAT THINGS WOULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW 635 00:31:49,109 --> 00:31:51,778 AND I DID COME BACK BRIEFLY. THERE WAS AN INFLUX OF SOME NEW 636 00:31:51,778 --> 00:31:53,213 PATIENTS SO HE DID CALL ME AND ASK ME TO 637 00:31:53,213 --> 00:31:55,849 COME BACK BRIEFLY. AND I DID. 638 00:31:55,849 --> 00:31:57,984 AND THEN I WAS AGAIN LAID OFF. >> Reporter: WAS THAT KINDA THE 639 00:31:57,984 --> 00:32:00,620 BEGINNING OF THE END FOR HIS PRACTICE 640 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:03,256 >> YES, DEFINITELY >> Reporter: ONE OF THE PATIENTS 641 00:32:03,256 --> 00:32:05,358 WHO LEFT HIS PRACTICE DURING THE INSURANCE DISPUTE WAS THE WIFE 642 00:32:05,358 --> 00:32:09,496 OF RESPONDING OFFICER SERGEANT NORTON. 643 00:32:09,496 --> 00:32:11,097 >> WHEN HE LOST HIS CONTRACT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, SHE 644 00:32:11,097 --> 00:32:13,800 WAS FORCED TO FIND A DIFFERENT PHYSICIAN. 645 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,669 >> Reporter: DID -- WAS SHE KINDA DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT? 646 00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:17,370 >> YES, SHE WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED 647 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:18,571 >> Reporter: SHE LIKED GOING TO HIM. 648 00:32:18,571 --> 00:32:20,674 >> YES SHE THOUGHT THAT HE -- HE WAS A 649 00:32:20,674 --> 00:32:23,309 GOOD PHYSICIAN >> Reporter: SO THE NEULANDERS 650 00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:27,080 HAD MONEY TROUBLE. IS YOUR DETECTIVE SENSE STARTING 651 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,216 TO TINGLE A LITTLE BIT THAT -- >> WELL, YEAH. 652 00:32:30,216 --> 00:32:33,887 IT -- IT IS. BUT, AGAIN, WE FOLLOW PROTOCOL 653 00:32:33,887 --> 00:32:35,989 >> Reporter: AND ACCORDING TO THE M.E, LESLIE'S DEATH WAS AN 654 00:32:35,989 --> 00:32:38,625 ACCIDENT >> HE IS THE EXPERT IN HIS 655 00:32:38,625 --> 00:32:42,529 FIELD. AND WE RELY ON HIM 656 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:44,431 IF HE EXPLAINS TO US THAT THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT IT LOOKS 657 00:32:44,431 --> 00:32:47,567 LIKE TO HIM, THEN -- THEN WE HAVE TO GO WITH THAT 658 00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:50,737 >> Reporter: IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE IN TOWN WHO COULD 659 00:32:50,737 --> 00:32:53,473 OFFER A SECOND OPINION PERHAPS IT WAS TIME TO CONSULT A 660 00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:58,111 CERTAIN RETIRED MEDICAL EXAMINER 661 00:32:58,111 --> 00:33:00,180 >>> COMING UP -- >> Reporter: YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T 662 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,816 WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WASN'T AN ACCIDENT? 663 00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:06,052 >> I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT. 664 00:33:06,052 --> 00:33:08,722 >> A NEW LOOK AT LESLIE'S FINAL MOMENTS. 665 00:33:08,722 --> 00:33:10,724 >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE LESLIE WAS TALKING TO YOU FROM 666 00:33:10,724 --> 00:33:27,540 THE GRAVE? >> YES, SHE'S TELLING ME WHAT 667 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:28,908 >> Reporter: LESLIE'S FRIEND TERRI HAD SUSPICIONS ABOUT 668 00:33:28,908 --> 00:33:31,544 BOB NEULANDER. AND NOW THAT SHE'D SPOKEN WITH 669 00:33:31,544 --> 00:33:35,782 POLICE, SHE WAS DOING HER BEST TO AVOID HIM AROUND TOWN 670 00:33:35,782 --> 00:33:37,851 SHE HAD A CLOSE CALL WHEN THEY NEARLY BUMPED SHOPPING CARTS AT 671 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:38,985 THE SUPERMARKET. DID YOU JUST MAKE A BEELINE -- 672 00:33:38,985 --> 00:33:40,520 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: -- IN THE OTHER 673 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,088 DIRECTION -- [ LAUGHTER ] 674 00:33:42,088 --> 00:33:44,190 >> AND ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: -- WITH YOUR CART 675 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:46,393 >> LIKE, WHY DOES A MAN WHO'S NEVER SHOPPED A DAY IN HIS LIFE 676 00:33:46,393 --> 00:33:49,996 OR COOKED A MEAL IN HIS LIFE SHOW UP AT WEGMANS AT NOON WHEN 677 00:33:49,996 --> 00:33:52,098 EVERYBODY ELSE IS THERE? >> Reporter: TERRI THOUGHT BOB 678 00:33:52,098 --> 00:33:56,302 WAS MAKING AN EFFORT TO APPEAR AS THOUGH EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL. 679 00:33:56,302 --> 00:33:58,405 THEN ONE DAY, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AFTER LESLIE'S DEATH, TERRI'S 680 00:33:58,405 --> 00:34:02,108 PHONE RANG IT WAS BOB 681 00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:03,677 >> I WAS QUITE SURPRISED I MEAN, HE - 682 00:34:03,677 --> 00:34:05,445 >> Reporter: WHAT DID HE WANT? >> HE JUST SAID HE WAS REACHIN' 683 00:34:05,445 --> 00:34:09,049 OUT TO FRIENDS AND CATCHIN' UP WITH PEOPLE. 684 00:34:09,049 --> 00:34:11,117 SINCE LESLIE DIED, HE'S BEEN SO DISTRAUGHT AND JUST WANTED TO 685 00:34:11,117 --> 00:34:12,719 SEE WHAT PEOPLE WERE UP TO AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY 686 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,321 UNUSUAL. HE'D NEVER CALLED ME BEFORE. 687 00:34:15,321 --> 00:34:17,457 >> Reporter: DID YOU AGAIN HAVE TO GO INTO ACTRESS MODE AND 688 00:34:17,457 --> 00:34:19,526 PRETEND LIKE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY 689 00:34:19,526 --> 00:34:21,127 >> ABSOLUTELY, I DID YES. 690 00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:22,696 >> Reporter: HOW HARD WAS THAT >> IT'S VERY HARD. 691 00:34:22,696 --> 00:34:26,399 'CAUSE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO BE YOURSELF, AND YOU'RE NOT USED TO 692 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:29,069 BEIN' IN THAT ROLE >> Reporter: MARY JUMBELIC GOT A 693 00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:31,104 CATCH-UP PHONE CALL, TOO BUT UNLIKE TERRI, MARY WELCOMED 694 00:34:31,104 --> 00:34:33,740 THE CALL SHE AND HER HUSBAND HADN'T HEARD 695 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,943 FROM BOB SINCE THAT NIGHT OF MOURNING AT HIS HOUSE. 696 00:34:36,943 --> 00:34:41,181 >> MY HUSBAND AND HE CHATTED I DIDN'T GET ON THE PHONE. 697 00:34:41,181 --> 00:34:45,385 "SORRY I HAVEN'T CALLED. I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOUCH 698 00:34:45,385 --> 00:34:49,789 I'M GONNA GO VISIT MY DAUGHTER WHO IS STUDYING IN ISRAEL. 699 00:34:49,789 --> 00:34:53,793 YOU KNOW, JUST A CASUAL, LIGHT CONVERSATION 700 00:34:53,793 --> 00:34:56,930 >> Reporter: MARY KNEW ALL ABOUT TERRI'S SUSPICIONS ABOUT BOB 701 00:34:56,930 --> 00:35:00,133 BUT SHE THOUGHT MAYBE TERRI HAD BEEN WATCHING TOO MANY CRIME 702 00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:03,803 SHOWS. >> WELL, IT IS TRUE THAT MY 703 00:35:03,803 --> 00:35:07,040 FIELD HAS GOTTEN VERY POPULARIZED IN MEDIA 704 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,643 AND SO EVERYONE THINKS THEY HAVE A LITTLE PIECE OF IT AND THEY 705 00:35:10,643 --> 00:35:13,780 ARE THEIR OWN INVESTIGATORS. >> Reporter: YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T 706 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:16,950 WANNA BELIEVE THAT THIS WASN'T AN ACCIDENT? 707 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:20,653 >> I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT. 708 00:35:20,653 --> 00:35:22,756 >> Reporter: BUT NOW, AFTER THIS THIS PHONE CALL, MARY FOUND 709 00:35:22,756 --> 00:35:26,459 HERSELF WONDERING FOR THE FIRST TIME 710 00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:30,597 WAS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC HE SAID ON THAT CALL THAT BOTHERED 711 00:35:30,597 --> 00:35:33,933 YOU? >> I THINK IT WAS JUST HIS TONE. 712 00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:36,469 >> Reporter: WHAT WAS WITH HIS TONE 713 00:35:36,469 --> 00:35:38,071 >> THAT, "I'M SORRY I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOUCH 714 00:35:38,071 --> 00:35:40,173 I'M GONNA BE OUT OF TOUCH AGAIN. I'M LEAVING. 715 00:35:40,173 --> 00:35:44,377 BUT I JUST WANNA CALL YOU AND SAY HI." 716 00:35:44,377 --> 00:35:46,312 IT FELT ODD. >> Reporter: THIS BUSINESS OF 717 00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:49,582 LEAVING THE COUNTRY TROUBLED HER, TOO 718 00:35:49,582 --> 00:35:54,888 OFF TO ISRAEL TO SEE JENNA WHY DID THAT CONCERN YOU 719 00:35:54,888 --> 00:35:58,591 >> WELL, IF IT HAPPENED THAT THIS WASN'T SIMPLY AN ACCIDENT, 720 00:35:58,591 --> 00:36:00,660 THEN THAT WOULD RAISE CONCERN. >> Reporter: THAT HE COULD JUST 721 00:36:00,660 --> 00:36:01,695 BE GONE? >> RIGHT 722 00:36:01,695 --> 00:36:03,296 >> Reporter: AND MAYBE NEVER RETURN 723 00:36:03,296 --> 00:36:05,398 >> RIGHT >> Reporter: WAS SOMETHING 724 00:36:05,398 --> 00:36:08,601 NAGGING AT YOU AT THIS POINT >> IT WAS. 725 00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:11,738 I DON'T KNOW I HAD NOTHING OTHER THAN THE 726 00:36:11,738 --> 00:36:13,707 FRIENDS' CONCERNS. I JUST THOUGHT, "I JUST NEED TO 727 00:36:13,707 --> 00:36:17,043 HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH BILL FITZPATRICK." 728 00:36:17,043 --> 00:36:19,612 >> Reporter: BILL FITZPATRICK IS THE ONONDAGA COUNTY DISTRICT 729 00:36:19,612 --> 00:36:21,247 ATTORNEY AND A COLLEAGUE OF MARY'S UNTIL SHE RETIRED AS 730 00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:24,918 MEDICAL EXAMINER A FEW YEARS EARLIER. 731 00:36:24,918 --> 00:36:27,554 >> I THOUGHT I SHOULD JUST CLOSE THE LOOP WITH THE INFORMATION 732 00:36:27,554 --> 00:36:29,689 AND JUST CALL THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY 733 00:36:29,689 --> 00:36:31,791 >> Reporter: WHAT DOES SHE TELL YOU? 734 00:36:31,791 --> 00:36:33,860 >> SHE SAID, "YOU KNOW, LOOK I JUST SAW THEM. 735 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:35,462 THEY CAME TO SEE ME WITH THE FAMILY." 736 00:36:35,462 --> 00:36:39,165 THAT'S HOW CLOSE THEY WERE AND SHE SAYS, "LOOK, I -- I -- I 737 00:36:39,165 --> 00:36:41,835 JUST WANNA PUT THE RUMORS TO BED. 738 00:36:41,835 --> 00:36:43,403 PEOPLE ARE TALKING THEY'RE GOSSIPING. 739 00:36:43,403 --> 00:36:45,071 >> Reporter: WHAT WAS HIS RESPONSE 740 00:36:45,071 --> 00:36:46,506 >> HIS RESPONSE WAS, "WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE CASE? 741 00:36:46,506 --> 00:36:48,108 >> Reporter: DID THAT SURPRISE YOU? 742 00:36:48,108 --> 00:36:49,442 >> YES >> Reporter: YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH 743 00:36:49,442 --> 00:36:50,777 THE VICTIM >> YES 744 00:36:50,777 --> 00:36:52,445 >> Reporter: AND HER HUSBAND >> YES 745 00:36:52,445 --> 00:36:53,913 >> Reporter: DID THAT FEEL ODD AT ALL 746 00:36:53,913 --> 00:36:57,617 >> OF COURSE IT DID. IT TOOK ME A MOMENT TO ANSWER 747 00:36:57,617 --> 00:37:04,024 THE QUESTION I HAD TO THINK IF I SHOULD OR 748 00:37:04,024 --> 00:37:07,827 COULD OR WOULD DO THIS AND I THOUGHT, "WELL, YES, I DO 749 00:37:07,827 --> 00:37:11,865 KNOW THEM BOTH BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO ANSWER 750 00:37:11,865 --> 00:37:15,035 THIS, IF THERE'S A WAY TO ALLAY THESE CONCERNS, THEN PERHAPS I'M 751 00:37:15,035 --> 00:37:16,703 THE BEST PERSON TO DO THAT." >> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT 752 00:37:16,703 --> 00:37:18,738 FOR MARY WE WORKED TOGETHER FOR TEN 753 00:37:18,738 --> 00:37:20,507 YEARS. >> Reporter: THE FILES WERE 754 00:37:20,507 --> 00:37:22,909 BROUGHT TO MARY'S HOME FOR HER REVIEW 755 00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:27,647 I'M SURE YOU JUST DOVE RIGHT IN? >> WELL, THERE'S A PROCESS 756 00:37:27,647 --> 00:37:29,683 YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU CONSIDER THE SCENE 757 00:37:29,683 --> 00:37:32,952 YOU CONSIDER THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS 758 00:37:32,952 --> 00:37:36,623 YOU LOOK AT THE STATEMENTS YOU WEIGH IT ALL IN AND -- AND 759 00:37:36,623 --> 00:37:40,293 COME TO A SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSION. >> Reporter: MARY COULD SEE HOW 760 00:37:40,293 --> 00:37:44,497 THE MEDICAL EXAMINER DREW HIS CONCLUSIONS THAT LESLIE'S DEATH 761 00:37:44,497 --> 00:37:46,666 WAS A SLIP AND FALL. >> HE SAW SOME FINDINGS IN THE 762 00:37:46,666 --> 00:37:51,871 BRAIN THAT HE ATTRIBUTED TO A FALL 763 00:37:51,871 --> 00:37:58,778 AND HE LATCHED ONTO THAT FINDING AND FELT THAT THAT EXPLAINED HER 764 00:37:58,778 --> 00:38:01,915 STORY AS PORTRAYED BY BOB. >> Reporter: MARY TOOK IT ALL 765 00:38:01,915 --> 00:38:05,085 IN -- THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS, THE M.E.'S REPORT. 766 00:38:05,085 --> 00:38:07,721 SHE ABSORBED EVERY DETAIL AS SHE IMMERSED HERSELF IN THE FINAL 767 00:38:07,721 --> 00:38:10,323 MOMENTS OF HER DEAR FRIEND'S LIFE 768 00:38:10,323 --> 00:38:13,460 DID YOU FEEL LIKE LESLIE WAS TALKING TO YOU FROM THE GRAVE AS 769 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:15,362 YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS REPORT? >> YES, SHE'S TELLING ME WHAT 770 00:38:15,362 --> 00:38:18,732 HAPPENED YES. 771 00:38:18,732 --> 00:38:21,034 >> Reporter: AND WHAT LESLIE WAS TELLING HER WAS DEVASTATING. 772 00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:25,105 LIKE LESLIE'S INJURIES THERE WERE MORE THAN JUST THAT 773 00:38:25,105 --> 00:38:27,707 GASH ON HER HEAD >> SHE HAD LARGE, FIVE-INCH 774 00:38:27,707 --> 00:38:31,911 WOUND ON THE SIDE OF HER SCALP, WITH INJURIES ON MULTIPLE SIDES 775 00:38:31,911 --> 00:38:35,648 OF HER FACE. IT WAS A PATTERN OF THE INJURIES 776 00:38:35,648 --> 00:38:40,387 THAT'S NOT EXPLAINED BY THE STORY. 777 00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:44,057 SO IN FORENSIC PARLANCE, THAT'S A RED FLAG 778 00:38:44,057 --> 00:38:46,126 >> Reporter: MARY WAS ALSO ALARMED BY THE CRIME SCENE 779 00:38:46,126 --> 00:38:49,062 PHOTOS, WHICH SHOWED BLOOD IN LESLIE'S BEDROOM 780 00:38:49,062 --> 00:38:51,398 IT WASN'T JUST POOLS IN THE CARPET 781 00:38:51,398 --> 00:38:56,069 THERE WAS BLOOD SPATTER AT LESLIE'S BEDSIDE, ON HER LAMP, 782 00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:57,270 THE WATER BOTTLES, EVEN UP ON THE WALL 783 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:59,906 THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T ADDING UP FOR YOU? 784 00:38:59,906 --> 00:39:03,576 >> THERE WERE VERY SIGNIFICANT THINGS, YES. 785 00:39:03,576 --> 00:39:05,145 >> Reporter: SHE WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A PHONE CALL THAT WOULD 786 00:39:05,145 --> 00:39:09,916 CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION. 787 00:39:09,916 --> 00:39:13,086 >>> COMING UP -- ANOTHER FRIEND OF LESLIE'S STEPS 788 00:39:13,086 --> 00:39:15,722 FORWARD WITH A SURPRISING REVELATION 789 00:39:15,722 --> 00:39:18,391 >> SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA GET A DIVORCE. 790 00:39:18,391 --> 00:39:37,110 SHE WAS LOOKING FOR A NEW PLACE, AND SHE WAS VERY EXCITED 791 00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:38,678 >> Reporter: MARY JUMBELIC, THE RETIRED M.E., HAD LOOKED AT THE 792 00:39:38,678 --> 00:39:42,916 ENTIRE CASE FILE ABOUT HER FRIEND LESLIE'S DEATH AND HAD 793 00:39:42,916 --> 00:39:48,188 COME TO A STARTLING CONCLUSION >> LESLIE WAS MURDERED 794 00:39:48,188 --> 00:39:50,323 SHE DIED AS A RESULT OF BLUNT HEAD TRAUMA, AND THE MANNER WAS 795 00:39:50,323 --> 00:39:52,392 HOMICIDE >> Reporter: SCIENCE ASIDE, 796 00:39:52,392 --> 00:39:54,527 THOUGH, THIS IS YOUR FRIEND. >> YES 797 00:39:54,527 --> 00:40:00,333 IT WAS UPSETTING AND I KNEW IT COULD ONLY GET 798 00:40:00,333 --> 00:40:03,503 MORE UPSETTING BECAUSE THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE OF ME CAME TO 799 00:40:03,503 --> 00:40:07,707 A CONCLUSION THAT I SUPPORTED SCIENTIFICALLY 800 00:40:07,707 --> 00:40:10,877 BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT EASY, AND IT DIDN'T MAKE IT BETTER 801 00:40:10,877 --> 00:40:14,014 BUT I NEVER COULD BE CONCERNED FOR THAT BECAUSE I SPEAK FOR THE 802 00:40:14,014 --> 00:40:17,183 DEAD PERSON. THAT'S WHAT I DID MY WHOLE LIFE. 803 00:40:17,183 --> 00:40:20,353 SO THEY'RE MY PATIENT. THEY'RE WHO I TAKE CARE OF, AND 804 00:40:20,353 --> 00:40:25,158 THEY'RE WHO I SPEAK FOR. IT 805 00:40:25,158 --> 00:40:31,531 >> Reporter: YOUR PART IN ALL THIS ALMOST READS LIKE A NOVEL 806 00:40:31,531 --> 00:40:34,668 >> WELL, IT'S NOT FICTION, AND TRUTH IS OFTEN STRANGER AND MORE 807 00:40:34,668 --> 00:40:38,371 PAINFUL THAN FICTION COULD EVER BE 808 00:40:38,371 --> 00:40:41,007 >> Reporter: SHE IMMEDIATELY CALLED D.A. FITZPATRICK. 809 00:40:41,007 --> 00:40:44,711 >> SHE SAYS TO ME, "THIS IS A HOMICIDE." 810 00:40:44,711 --> 00:40:48,415 AND I WAS STUNNED. >> Reporter: NOW, OF COURSE, 811 00:40:48,415 --> 00:40:51,718 D.A BILL FITZPATRICK HAD TWO CONFLICTING PROFESSIONAL 812 00:40:51,718 --> 00:40:53,720 OPINIONS TO CONTEND WITH MARY'S AND THE CURRENT M.E.'S 813 00:40:53,720 --> 00:41:00,527 WHO'D RULED LESLIE'S MANNER OF DEATH AN ACCIDENT. 814 00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:03,063 YOU NEED TO NOW GO TALK TO HIM AND SAY, "I THINK YOU'RE WRONG"? 815 00:41:03,063 --> 00:41:04,230 >> YEAH. I SAID, "I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO 816 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:06,833 REEXAMINE YOUR OPINION AS TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH 817 00:41:06,833 --> 00:41:10,570 I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER MANNER OF DEATH." 818 00:41:10,570 --> 00:41:13,707 >> Reporter: FITZPATRICK ARRANGED A MEETING, INVITING THE 819 00:41:13,707 --> 00:41:18,211 CURRENT M.E. AS WELL AS A GROUP OF OTHER PROMINENT PATHOLOGISTS 820 00:41:18,211 --> 00:41:21,147 TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CASE AND THE OPINIONS OF THOSE OTHER 821 00:41:21,147 --> 00:41:25,352 PATHOLOGISTS MATCHED MARY'S. IT LOOKED LIKE A HOMICIDE. 822 00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:30,623 >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL IF I HAD BEEN WRONG. 823 00:41:30,623 --> 00:41:32,759 I WISH I HAD BEEN WRONG. >> Reporter: BUT THE ONONDAGA 824 00:41:32,759 --> 00:41:35,929 COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER HAD THE FINAL SAY. 825 00:41:35,929 --> 00:41:38,732 AND HE HELD FAST LESLIE'S OFFICIAL MANNER OF 826 00:41:38,732 --> 00:41:42,235 DEATH REMAINED AN ACCIDENT >> THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME. 827 00:41:42,235 --> 00:41:45,905 ULTIMATELY THE MEDICAL EXAMINER CAN CALL IT WHATEVER HE OR SHE 828 00:41:45,905 --> 00:41:47,607 WANTS. IT'S MY DECISION WHETHER OR NOT 829 00:41:47,607 --> 00:41:50,643 TO GO FORWARD WITH A HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION. 830 00:41:50,643 --> 00:41:53,813 >> Reporter: AND THAT'S WHERE THE CASE WAS HEADING 831 00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:56,449 BEFORE LONG, WORD WAS OUT AROUND SYRACUSE 832 00:41:56,449 --> 00:41:59,119 DR. BOB NEULANDER WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR HIS WIFE'S 833 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,187 DEATH. >> TOM ESCHEN JOINS US LIVE FROM 834 00:42:01,187 --> 00:42:03,289 OUTSIDE THE DOCTOR'S HANOVER SQUARE APARTMENT 835 00:42:03,289 --> 00:42:05,558 >> Reporter: ANCHOR MEGAN COLEMAN SAYS FEW COULD 836 00:42:05,558 --> 00:42:07,060 BELIEVE IT >> THIS WAS THE BIGGEST STUNNER 837 00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:10,163 THAT WE HAD SEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME IN THIS COMMUNITY 838 00:42:10,163 --> 00:42:13,833 AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN IN MY HOME, WHAT, 839 00:42:13,833 --> 00:42:15,969 FOUR MONTHS BEFORE SHE HAD DIED. I THOUGHT, "THIS CAN'T BE 840 00:42:15,969 --> 00:42:22,308 HAPPENING. HE SEEMED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER 841 00:42:22,308 --> 00:42:25,145 DAD, ANY OTHER HUSBAND >> Reporter: DR. NEULANDER'S 842 00:42:25,145 --> 00:42:28,114 FAMILY WAS IN HIS CORNER AND HE WAS FIGHTING BACK IN THE 843 00:42:28,114 --> 00:42:31,284 PRESS THROUGH HIS ATTORNEY >> THIS HAS BEEN AN OPEN SECRET 844 00:42:31,284 --> 00:42:34,988 AND A SUBJECT OF GOSSIP AND IRRESPONSIBLE RUMOR NOW FOR 845 00:42:34,988 --> 00:42:37,090 MONTHS DR. NEULANDER HAS NOT BEEN 846 00:42:37,090 --> 00:42:40,794 CHARGED WITH ANY KIND OF OFFENSE. 847 00:42:40,794 --> 00:42:43,930 >> HE SPOKE OUT AND WAS ADAMANT. "THESE ARE LUDICROUS 848 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:47,100 ALLEGATIONS. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS 849 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,837 HE IS THE MOST HONEST PERSON I'VE EVER MET. 850 00:42:50,837 --> 00:42:53,406 >> Reporter: FOR DETECTIVES, A BENEFIT OF THE COVERAGE WAS THAT 851 00:42:53,406 --> 00:42:56,576 IT ENCOURAGED ANYONE WITH INFORMATION TO COME FORWARD. 852 00:42:56,576 --> 00:42:59,245 >> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO GET INVOLVED, 853 00:42:59,245 --> 00:43:01,815 EVEN IF IT'S A BAD SITUATION >> Reporter: SOMEONE WHO DID WAS 854 00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:05,051 LESLIE'S FRIEND FROM STARBUCKS, NEVIN ROBI 855 00:43:05,051 --> 00:43:08,188 >> IT REALLY WASN'T TILL I READ A NEWS STORY WHERE IT GOT 856 00:43:08,188 --> 00:43:11,858 CHANGED FROM THIS TO AN ACTUAL INVESTIGATION. 857 00:43:11,858 --> 00:43:13,960 AND THAT'S WHEN, YOU KNOW, I DID, YOU KNOW, GO UP TO THE 858 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,732 POLICE AND SIT AND TALK WITH THEM 859 00:43:18,732 --> 00:43:20,834 >> Reporter: HE WALKED DETECTIVES THROUGH HIS STORY 860 00:43:20,834 --> 00:43:22,936 FROM THE BEGINNING HOW HE'D MET LESLIE BY CHANCE 861 00:43:22,936 --> 00:43:25,071 EARLIER THAT YEAR. ALTHOUGH THEY WERE YEARS APART 862 00:43:25,071 --> 00:43:28,541 IN AGE, THE TWO BECAME FAST FRIENDS. 863 00:43:28,541 --> 00:43:29,876 >> MAYBE TWICE, THREE TIMES A WEEK, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE, LIKE, 864 00:43:29,876 --> 00:43:31,378 LUNCH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'D BE WORKING. 865 00:43:31,378 --> 00:43:34,080 SHE'D BE LIKE, "HEY, I'M STOPPING IN THE MALL." 866 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,615 >> Reporter: NEVIN SAYS THEIR CONVERSATIONS WERE LIGHT AT 867 00:43:35,615 --> 00:43:38,218 FIRST -- THINGS GOING ON IN TOWN, THE LATEST NEWS. 868 00:43:38,218 --> 00:43:41,388 BUT OVER TIME THEY GREW MORE PERSONAL 869 00:43:41,388 --> 00:43:44,791 HE SAYS THE FACT THAT THEY WERE STRANGERS IN EACH OTHERS LIVES 870 00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:46,659 MADE IT FEEL SAFE. >> I COULD ASK HER THINGS ABOUT 871 00:43:46,659 --> 00:43:49,763 THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN MY LIFE THAT I'M GONNA GET A REAL 872 00:43:49,763 --> 00:43:51,331 100% RESPONSE AND I DON'T HAVE TO FEEL WORRIED ABOUT IT, AND 873 00:43:51,331 --> 00:43:52,932 VICE VERSA WHO AM I 874 00:43:52,932 --> 00:43:55,502 I'M A NOBODY REALLY IN HER WORLD. 875 00:43:55,502 --> 00:43:56,770 AND SAME THING WITH -- WITH HER. >> Reporter: IT WAS EASY FOR HER 876 00:43:56,770 --> 00:43:58,772 TO OPEN UP TO YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. 877 00:43:58,772 --> 00:44:00,874 THERE'S NO JUDGMENT. AND THAT WAS REALLY, I THINK FOR 878 00:44:00,874 --> 00:44:03,510 BOTH OF US -- REALLY IT WAS, YOU KNOW 879 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:06,680 IT WAS NICE TO HAVE THAT >> Reporter: NEVIN TOLD 880 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,782 INVESTIGATORS LESLIE'S HUSBAND WASN'T A REGULAR TOPIC OF 881 00:44:08,782 --> 00:44:10,850 CONVERSATION BUT HE GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT 882 00:44:10,850 --> 00:44:13,053 THEIR MARRIAGE WAS NOT A HAPPY ONE. 883 00:44:13,053 --> 00:44:16,056 WHAT WERE THE POSITIVE THINGS SHE HAD TO SAY ABOUT BOB 884 00:44:16,056 --> 00:44:17,724 >> SHE NEVER SAID REALLY ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT BOB. 885 00:44:17,724 --> 00:44:22,495 >> Reporter: NOTHING >> THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HER 886 00:44:22,495 --> 00:44:24,297 AND HER MARRIAGE WERE ALWAYS, LIKE, LITTLE CRUMBS. 887 00:44:24,297 --> 00:44:26,199 >> Reporter: BUT NEVIN SAYS THERE WAS SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN 888 00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,835 ALL THOSE CRUMBS, THOUGH LESLIE DIDN'T DWELL ON IT 889 00:44:28,835 --> 00:44:31,471 >> IT SOUNDED LIKE HE HAD BEEN CHEATING ON HER THROUGHOUT THE 890 00:44:31,471 --> 00:44:34,641 MARRIAGE >> Reporter: BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T 891 00:44:34,641 --> 00:44:37,243 TALK MUCH ABOUT BOB, NEVIN WAS SURPRISED WHEN, AFTER KNOWING 892 00:44:37,243 --> 00:44:39,913 EACH OTHER FOR JUST A FEW MONTHS, LESLIE'S HUSBAND SENT 893 00:44:39,913 --> 00:44:41,448 HIM A TEXT >> "WHO ARE YOU? 894 00:44:41,448 --> 00:44:43,550 YOU KNOW, AND, "WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT?" 895 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:45,151 YOU KNOW, "WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? 896 00:44:45,151 --> 00:44:46,219 AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND I JUST RESPONDED VERY 897 00:44:46,219 --> 00:44:47,754 SIMPLY I WAS LIKE, "WE'RE HAVING 898 00:44:47,754 --> 00:44:49,889 LUNCHES. SHE'S MY FRIEND. 899 00:44:49,889 --> 00:44:51,458 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS, LIFE, MY LIFE, HER LIFE, WHAT'S 900 00:44:51,458 --> 00:44:53,093 GOING ON IN HER WORLD. I MEAN, IT'S - 901 00:44:53,093 --> 00:44:54,394 >> Reporter: DID HE GET HOSTILE AT ALL 902 00:44:54,394 --> 00:44:56,262 >> HE ONLY GOT HOSTILE AT THE END. 903 00:44:56,262 --> 00:44:57,897 "MY WIFE AND I ARE HAVING, LIKE, MARITAL ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE 904 00:44:57,897 --> 00:44:59,933 THAT AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE, LIKE -- 905 00:44:59,933 --> 00:45:03,069 YOU'RE HER FRIEND. BUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE STAY OUT 906 00:45:03,069 --> 00:45:06,773 OF OUR MARRIAGE STUFF. >> Reporter: NEVIN TOLD POLICE 907 00:45:06,773 --> 00:45:09,409 HE ISN'T SURE IF LESLIE TOLD BOB ABOUT THEIR FRIENDSHIP OF IF BOB 908 00:45:09,409 --> 00:45:12,045 HAD SNOOPED IN HER PHONE EITHER WAY, HE INSISTS THEY WERE 909 00:45:12,045 --> 00:45:16,282 NEVER MORE THAN FRIENDS. DO YOU THINK THOUGH, FROM THE 910 00:45:16,282 --> 00:45:17,851 HUSBAND'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT HE COULD HAVE PERCEIVED IT AS 911 00:45:17,851 --> 00:45:22,088 SOMETHING MORE, POTENTIALLY? >> I THINK ANYONE CAN PERCEIVE 912 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:24,190 ANYTHING ON ANY TOPIC REALLY >> Reporter: SO SHE NEVER SAID 913 00:45:24,190 --> 00:45:27,293 TO YOU, "OH, BOB KNOWS ABOUT US AND"-- 914 00:45:27,293 --> 00:45:28,495 >> WELL, THERE'S - >> Reporter: -- "HE'S" - 915 00:45:28,495 --> 00:45:29,863 >> THERE'S NOTHING TO KNOW ABOUT US REALLY, YOU KNOW. 916 00:45:29,863 --> 00:45:31,965 I MEAN - >> Reporter: WELL, THAT WE'RE 917 00:45:31,965 --> 00:45:33,500 FRIENDS. >> HAS -- YEAH, I MEAN, SHE HAS 918 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:34,734 100-SOMETHING MILLION FRIENDS IN SYRACUSE 919 00:45:34,734 --> 00:45:37,404 >> Reporter: I MEAN, MY -- MY HUSBAND, IF I'M HAVING LUNCHES 920 00:45:37,404 --> 00:45:40,206 WITH A GUY WHO'S A LOT YOUNGER, HE'LL -- HE -- HE'D WANNA KNOW 921 00:45:40,206 --> 00:45:41,608 ABOUT IT >> THAT'S TRUE 922 00:45:41,608 --> 00:45:44,944 BUT I'M NO BRAD PITT [ LAUGHTER ] 923 00:45:44,944 --> 00:45:47,347 >> Reporter: YOU'RE -- YOU'RE AN ATTRACTIVE GUY 924 00:45:47,347 --> 00:45:49,549 AGAIN, MUCH YOUNGER GUY. I WOULD THINK THAT -- THAT BOB 925 00:45:49,549 --> 00:45:52,619 WOULD WANNA KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN HIS WIFE'S WORLD 926 00:45:52,619 --> 00:45:54,754 >> RIGHT AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK BOB 927 00:45:54,754 --> 00:45:56,856 I -- I HAVE NO IDEA IT -- WHAT -- WHAT HE DOES OR DOES NOT 928 00:45:56,856 --> 00:46:00,026 KNOW >> Reporter: EVEN AFTER BOB HAD 929 00:46:00,026 --> 00:46:02,529 TEXTED HIM, TELLING HIM TO STAY OUT OF THEIR MARRIAGE, NEVIN 930 00:46:02,529 --> 00:46:04,798 SAYS LESLIE MET HIM FOR ANOTHER LUNCH. 931 00:46:04,798 --> 00:46:08,034 SHE SHARED SOME NEWS SHE AND BOB WERE SPLITTING UP. 932 00:46:08,034 --> 00:46:11,905 IT WAS JUST DAYS BEFORE LESLIE DIED 933 00:46:11,905 --> 00:46:13,340 >> SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY BOTH SAT DOWN AND TOLD ALL THE KIDS, 934 00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:16,910 THE WHOLE FAMILY, THAT THEY WERE GONNA GET A DIVORCE. 935 00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:19,579 SHE WAS LOOKING FOR A NEW PLACE. THE LAST CONVERSATION SHE SAID 936 00:46:19,579 --> 00:46:21,147 SHE PUT DOWN A DEPOSIT BUT WAS WAITING FOR, LIKE, A CREDIT 937 00:46:21,147 --> 00:46:23,783 CHECK OR SOMETHING TO THIS EFFECT 938 00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:26,419 AND SHE WAS VERY EXCITED >> Reporter: IT WAS A 939 00:46:26,419 --> 00:46:32,258 TANTALIZING PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR THE DETECTIVES 940 00:46:32,258 --> 00:46:37,597 >> WE HAD MULTIPLE ACQUAINTANCES AND FRIENDS AND CLOSE FRIENDS OF 941 00:46:37,597 --> 00:46:40,700 HERS EXPLAIN TO US THAT SHE WAS MOST CERTAINLY READY TO MOVE ON 942 00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:43,370 AND DIVORCE. >> Reporter: ONE OF THOSE 943 00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:46,806 FRIENDS WAS TERRI. SHE DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, 944 00:46:46,806 --> 00:46:49,175 MANY THINGS THAT MADE HER SUSPICIOUS ABOUT BOB FROM THE 945 00:46:49,175 --> 00:46:51,811 START. >> SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE 946 00:46:51,811 --> 00:46:55,882 SEPARATING AND THAT SHE WOULD -- WE WERE GONNA MEET FOR COFFEE 947 00:46:55,882 --> 00:46:57,617 AND TALK LATER IN THE UPCOMING WEEK 948 00:46:57,617 --> 00:47:00,253 >> Reporter: WAS THIS A TOTAL SURPRISE TO YOU? 949 00:47:00,253 --> 00:47:01,855 >> UM, YEAH. IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME. 950 00:47:01,855 --> 00:47:03,923 I JUST ASKED HER IF YOU'RE -- "ARE YOU OKAY? 951 00:47:03,923 --> 00:47:06,026 AND SHE SAID, "YES, IT'S -- IT'S FINE, TERRI. 952 00:47:06,026 --> 00:47:10,797 IT'S OKAY. AND I'LL FILL YOU IN 953 00:47:10,797 --> 00:47:15,035 LET'S WAIT UNTIL TUESDAY, AND WE'LL GET TOGETHER TUESDAY." 954 00:47:15,035 --> 00:47:18,672 >> Reporter: BUT TERRI NEVER LEARNED MORE ABOUT IT BECAUSE BY 955 00:47:18,672 --> 00:47:21,341 TUESDAY, LESLIE WAS DEAD FOR THE DETECTIVES, THE 956 00:47:21,341 --> 00:47:25,078 SUGGESTIVE STORIES ABOUT BOB WERE ADDING UP 957 00:47:25,078 --> 00:47:30,316 BUT THEY WEREN'T HARD EVIDENCE INVESTIGATORS HAD JUST BEEN 958 00:47:30,316 --> 00:47:31,918 GIVEN A LOOK INSIDE THE NEULANDERS MARRIAGE. 959 00:47:31,918 --> 00:47:35,555 NOW THEY NEEDED ANOTHER LOOK INSIDE THE HOUSE 960 00:47:35,555 --> 00:47:38,191 >>> COMING UP -- >> IT WAS STRANGE. 961 00:47:38,191 --> 00:47:42,529 IT LOOKED LIKE THE SHOWER HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED FROM THAT DAY 962 00:47:42,529 --> 00:47:46,099 >> A RETURN TO THE SCENE YIELDS STUNNING NEW EVIDENCE. 963 00:47:46,099 --> 00:47:48,234 >> I'M STARING AT THE HEADBOARD, AND I SHINED MY FLASHLIGHT ON 964 00:47:48,234 --> 00:48:05,452 IT AND I'M LIKE, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA 965 00:48:05,452 --> 00:48:07,520 >> Reporter: DR. BOB NEULANDER MAY HAVE BEEN UNDER 966 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,690 INVESTIGATION FOR HIS WIFE'S DEATH BUT HE WASN'T ACTING LIKE 967 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:13,326 IT HE WAS OUT AND ABOUT, GROCERY 968 00:48:13,326 --> 00:48:16,496 SHOPPING, EATING AT RESTAURANTS, GOING TO TEMPLE WITH HIS FAMILY. 969 00:48:16,496 --> 00:48:19,699 MEGAN COLEMAN WENT TO THE SAME SYNAGOGUE. 970 00:48:19,699 --> 00:48:24,571 >> AND I REMEMBER SITTING SEVERAL ROWS BACK FROM HIM 971 00:48:24,571 --> 00:48:27,574 AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HAD THE CORNER OF MY EYE, YOU KNOW, SORT 972 00:48:27,574 --> 00:48:31,244 OF WA -- I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOM KIPPUR. 973 00:48:31,244 --> 00:48:33,446 IT'S THE DAY OF ATONEMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF 974 00:48:33,446 --> 00:48:36,483 THINK THAT PERHAPS THIS DAY M -- MAY TAKE ON A LITTLE BIT MORE 975 00:48:36,483 --> 00:48:41,254 MEANING -- FOR HIM SO I WAS SORT OF WATCHING AND 976 00:48:41,254 --> 00:48:44,424 WONDERING, "WILL THERE BE ANY SORT OF -- REACTION OR VISIBLE 977 00:48:44,424 --> 00:48:47,560 SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT I COULD KINDA GLEAN FROM -- FROM 978 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,230 WATCHING HIM?" >> Reporter: MEGAN SAYS MANY IN 979 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:53,933 THE COMMUNITY STILL FELT SORRY FOR THE WIDOWER. 980 00:48:53,933 --> 00:48:56,069 IT WAS HARD TO IMAGE THAT BOB WOULD HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO DO 981 00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:59,205 WITH HIS WIFE'S DEATH. >> I THINK THAT THAT WAS ALSO 982 00:48:59,205 --> 00:49:04,010 PART OF WHAT MADE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO WRAP 983 00:49:04,010 --> 00:49:08,648 THEIR HEAD AROUND WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY WERE SO GIVING 984 00:49:08,648 --> 00:49:12,352 AND THEY WERE SO LOVING. >> Reporter: AS MONTHS PASSED 985 00:49:12,352 --> 00:49:14,020 WITHOUT AN ARREST, LESLIE'S FRIEND TERRI WONDERED WHY THE 986 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,090 CASE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE GOING ANYWHERE 987 00:49:17,090 --> 00:49:19,726 >> YOU JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA GO ON FOR YEARS, LIKE IT DOES IN 988 00:49:19,726 --> 00:49:21,861 OTHER CASES. AND THIS JUST IS MAYBE NEVER 989 00:49:21,861 --> 00:49:24,464 GONNA GET S -- SOLVED FOR A LONG TIME 990 00:49:24,464 --> 00:49:27,100 >> Reporter: BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, INVESTIGATORS WERE STILL 991 00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:29,736 WORKING. SOMETHING HIGH ON THEIR TO DO 992 00:49:29,736 --> 00:49:32,906 LIST, RETURN TO THE MANSION ON SHALIMAR WAY 993 00:49:32,906 --> 00:49:36,042 I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WERE PROBABLY THINGS YOU WANTED TO 994 00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:48,221 LOOK AT THAT YOU COULDN'T THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE YOU HAD TO, 995 00:49:48,221 --> 00:49:49,856 ESSENTIALLY, SHUT IT DOWN ONCE IT W -- THE -- THE DEATH WAS 996 00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:52,225 RULED AN ACCIDENT. >> RIGHT 997 00:49:52,225 --> 00:49:53,560 THAT'S RIGHT >> Reporter: IT SEEMED LIKE A 998 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,562 LONG SHOT THAT THEY WOULD FIND ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT 999 00:49:55,562 --> 00:49:57,163 MANY MONTHS HAD PASSED AND THE HOUSE HAD BEEN SOLD. 1000 00:49:57,163 --> 00:49:59,232 BUT STILL DETECTIVES REACHED OUT TO THE NEW OWNER 1001 00:49:59,232 --> 00:50:00,834 >> THEY HADN'T MOVED IN, HE HADN'T TOUCHED ANYTHING IN THE 1002 00:50:00,834 --> 00:50:02,369 HOUSE AND HE SAID, "IF YOU NEED TO COME BACK, YOU'RE WELCOME TO 1003 00:50:02,369 --> 00:50:04,537 COME ON BACK IN AND TAKE A LOOK." 1004 00:50:04,537 --> 00:50:07,173 AND, SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE CERTAINLY ARE NEVER GONNA PASS 1005 00:50:07,173 --> 00:50:09,976 UP AN OFFER TO DO THAT >> Reporter: AND THEY WERE ABOUT 1006 00:50:09,976 --> 00:50:12,946 TO GET UNBELIEVABLY LUCKY. BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAD THE NEW 1007 00:50:12,946 --> 00:50:15,582 OWNER NOT YET MOVED IN, BUT IT APPEARED THE NEULANDERS HAD 1008 00:50:15,582 --> 00:50:18,218 HARDLY TOUCHED THE BEDROOM SINCE THE DAY LESLIE DIED. 1009 00:50:18,218 --> 00:50:21,921 >> YOU COULD TELL THAT THEY -- THEY TRIED TO CLEAN THE BLOOD 1010 00:50:21,921 --> 00:50:23,523 OUTTA THE FLOOR -- OUTTA THE CARPETING. 1011 00:50:23,523 --> 00:50:25,091 AND -- BUT YOU COULD STILL SEE THE OUTLINES, YOU COULD STILL 1012 00:50:25,091 --> 00:50:26,693 SEE THE STAINS >> IT LOOKED LIKE THE SHOWER 1013 00:50:26,693 --> 00:50:28,228 HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED FROM THAT DAY. 1014 00:50:28,228 --> 00:50:31,664 I MEAN, THERE WAS STILL -- WE -- WE WERE FINDING DRIED BLOOD IN 1015 00:50:31,664 --> 00:50:32,966 THE SHOWER AND -- >> Reporter: IT'S KINDA CREE -- 1016 00:50:32,966 --> 00:50:34,534 >> HERE IT IS, MARCH >> Reporter: CREEPY? 1017 00:50:34,534 --> 00:50:37,704 >> IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS STRANGE. 1018 00:50:37,704 --> 00:50:39,472 I MEAN, THAT IT WAS NEVER CLEANED. 1019 00:50:39,472 --> 00:50:43,410 THE -- THE ACTUAL SHOWER WAS NEVER CLEANED. 1020 00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:45,111 >> Reporter: THE EVIDENCE TECHS TOOK MEASUREMENTS AND CARPET 1021 00:50:45,111 --> 00:50:47,714 SAMPLES. AND RECORDED BLOOD SPATTER ON 1022 00:50:47,714 --> 00:50:49,816 THE BLINDS AT ONE POINT, THE SERGEANT FOUND 1023 00:50:49,816 --> 00:50:54,054 HIMSELF STARING AT THE BUILT-IN BED FRAME. 1024 00:50:54,054 --> 00:50:57,791 THE MATTRESS WAS GONE BUT THE HEADBOARD WAS STILL THERE. 1025 00:50:57,791 --> 00:51:00,060 >> I'M STARIN' AT THIS HEADBOARD TO THIS BED WAS -- IT WAS LIKE A 1026 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,096 BLACK FELT FABRIC WITH A PATTERN IN IT. 1027 00:51:03,096 --> 00:51:06,166 AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE LIGHT JUST CAUGHT IT THE RIGHT 1028 00:51:06,166 --> 00:51:08,835 WAY OR WHAT DREW MY ATTENTION TO IT BUT NOW I SEE A STAIN IN THE 1029 00:51:08,835 --> 00:51:11,504 HEADBOARD. I HAD A FLASHLIGHT 1030 00:51:11,504 --> 00:51:15,208 AND I SHINED MY FLASHLIGHT ON IT AND IT WAS A RED STAIN IN THIS 1031 00:51:15,208 --> 00:51:17,444 BLACK FABRIC AND I JUST REMEMBER CALLING OUT 1032 00:51:17,444 --> 00:51:19,446 TO SCOTT KAPRAL. I'M LIKE, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA 1033 00:51:19,446 --> 00:51:22,582 BELIEVE THIS." >> Reporter: THE STAIN WAS 1034 00:51:22,582 --> 00:51:25,251 BLOOD. THEY'D ALL MISSED IT THE DAY 1035 00:51:25,251 --> 00:51:26,820 LESLIE DIED. >> IT WAS COVERED UP BY PILLOWS 1036 00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:28,888 THE DAY THAT WE WERE THERE SO I NEVER REALLY GOT TO SEE 1037 00:51:28,888 --> 00:51:33,126 THAT >> ONCE WE IDENTIFIED THAT IT 1038 00:51:33,126 --> 00:51:38,932 WAS LESLIE'S BLOOD, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS ENORMOUS. 1039 00:51:38,932 --> 00:51:41,568 TO US, IT CERTAINLY DID NOT FIT ANY EXPLANATION THAT Y -- YOU 1040 00:51:41,568 --> 00:51:44,204 KNOW, HE BROUGHT HER OUT TO THE FLOOR RIGHT NEXT TO THE BED. 1041 00:51:44,204 --> 00:51:45,772 >> Reporter: HAD -- HAD HE TOLD YOU -- 1042 00:51:45,772 --> 00:51:47,874 >> TO DO CPR >> Reporter: HAD HE TOLD YOU, 1043 00:51:47,874 --> 00:51:49,442 "I -- I PLACED HER ON THE BED" AT ANY POINT TO DO CPR 1044 00:51:49,442 --> 00:51:51,544 >> NO. NOT AT ALL 1045 00:51:51,544 --> 00:51:54,247 NOT AT ALL >> Reporter: BOB HAD TALKED TO 1046 00:51:54,247 --> 00:51:56,349 INVESTIGATORS AT THE SCENE, AND LATER GIVEN A WRITTEN STATEMENT 1047 00:51:56,349 --> 00:51:58,985 TO POLICE. HE'D DECLINED A FORMAL 1048 00:51:58,985 --> 00:52:01,621 INTERVIEW. BUT JENNA HAD GIVEN THAT 1049 00:52:01,621 --> 00:52:04,257 VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW MAYBE SHE SAW SOMETHING THAT 1050 00:52:04,257 --> 00:52:07,927 WOULD EXPLAIN THE NEWLY DISCOVERED BLOOD 1051 00:52:07,927 --> 00:52:11,131 THEY PULLED IT TO REVIEW >> WHEN YOU FIRST SAW HER, SHE 1052 00:52:11,131 --> 00:52:16,770 WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND? >> YEAH, DAD WAS HOLDING HER 1053 00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:18,571 UNDERNEATH HER ARM, YOU KNOW, ON THE BACK, ON THE BACK OF HER 1054 00:52:18,571 --> 00:52:23,243 HE WAS TRYING TO GET HER OUT OF THE BATHROOM 1055 00:52:23,243 --> 00:52:25,879 >> Reporter: JENNA HAD DESCRIBED HOW, AFTER CALLING 9-1-1, SHE 1056 00:52:25,879 --> 00:52:28,515 RAN INTO THE BATHROOM AND SAW HER DAD CARRYING HER MOTHER FROM 1057 00:52:28,515 --> 00:52:32,752 THE SHOWER >> SHE WAS ALREADY OUT OF THE 1058 00:52:32,752 --> 00:52:34,421 SHOWER AND SHE WAS IN THAT HALLWAY WHERE THAT STEP WAS AND 1059 00:52:34,421 --> 00:52:36,556 HE WAS TRYING TO GET HER ON THE CARPET 1060 00:52:36,556 --> 00:52:39,092 >> HE HAD ALREADY TAKEN HER OUT OF THE SHOWER AND HE WAS MOVING 1061 00:52:39,092 --> 00:52:41,161 HER. >> DOWN THE HALLWAY? 1062 00:52:41,161 --> 00:52:45,365 >> YEAH, INTO THE -- INTO THE CARPETED AREA. 1063 00:52:45,365 --> 00:52:46,966 AND DAD STARTED WORKING ON HER AND LOOKING FOR HER VITALS 1064 00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:49,102 >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN WORKING ON HER? 1065 00:52:49,102 --> 00:52:50,670 >> LIKE HE WAS CHECKING HER PULSE. 1066 00:52:50,670 --> 00:52:55,408 >> DID YOU ACTUALLY SEE HIM DO CHEST COMPRESSIONS 1067 00:52:55,408 --> 00:52:58,578 >> I DONT REMEMBER I JUST WANTED TO START SEEING IF 1068 00:52:58,578 --> 00:53:05,952 SHE WAS BREATHING. I JUST REMEMBER TOUCHING HER 1069 00:53:05,952 --> 00:53:07,487 LIKE THAT, AND HER JAW WAS REALLY STIFF 1070 00:53:07,487 --> 00:53:09,622 I STARTED SCREAMING THAT SHE'S DEAD 1071 00:53:09,622 --> 00:53:13,326 >> Reporter: AND THAT'S WHEN SHE NOTICED THE BLOOD. 1072 00:53:13,326 --> 00:53:15,462 >> WHERE DID YOU SEE THE BLOOD >> THERE WAS BLOOD, THEN I 1073 00:53:15,462 --> 00:53:20,133 LOOKED, THERE WAS BLOOD WHERE HER HEAD WAS 1074 00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:24,871 HERE, A LITTLE BIT AROUND, AND THERE WAS BLOOD, WHERE, UM, LIKE 1075 00:53:24,871 --> 00:53:27,540 ON THE WALLS >> Reporter: JENNA SAYS SHE RAN 1076 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:34,881 TO ANOTHER ROOM TO GRAB HER CELLPHONE TO CALL 9-1-1 AGAIN. 1077 00:53:34,881 --> 00:53:36,483 >> WHEN I WENT BACK UPSTAIRS, SHE WAS HERE NEXT TO THE BED, 1078 00:53:36,483 --> 00:53:39,119 HER HEAD HERE. >> SO BY THE TIME YOU GOT DONE 1079 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:40,754 CALLING 9-1-1 AGAIN, YOUR MOTHER HAD BEEN MOVED FROM HERE TO 1080 00:53:40,754 --> 00:53:43,156 HERE YOU, YOU DIDN'T HELP WITH THAT 1081 00:53:43,156 --> 00:54:00,206 OR ANYTHING? YOUR DAD THAT DID THAT 1082 00:54:00,206 --> 00:54:12,452 OKAY >> Reporter: JENNA CONFIRMED SHE 1083 00:54:12,452 --> 00:54:13,887 SAW HER MOTHER MOVED AT LEAST TWICE. 1084 00:54:13,887 --> 00:54:15,522 BUT NEVER MENTIONED SEEING HER ON THE BED, SO NOTHING SHE 1085 00:54:15,522 --> 00:54:17,157 DESCRIBED SEEMED TO EXPLAIN THE BLOOD THEY'D JUST FOUND ON THE 1086 00:54:17,157 --> 00:54:18,692 HEADBOARD. THE DA THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO 1087 00:54:18,692 --> 00:54:20,160 FINALLY TALK TO BOB NEULANDER HIMSELF. 1088 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,062 >> HIS ATTORNEY AND I ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS. 1089 00:54:22,062 --> 00:54:23,396 I SAID, "WILL HE COME IN AND BE INTERVIEWED? 1090 00:54:23,396 --> 00:54:25,065 "SURE. ABSOLUTELY." 1091 00:54:25,065 --> 00:54:27,467 >>> COMING UP -- A CRUCIAL QUESTION FOR 1092 00:54:27,467 --> 00:54:28,401 BOB NEULANDER. ON THE HEADBOARD THERE ARE AT 1093 00:54:28,401 --> 00:54:47,320 LEAST NINE BLOOD SPATTERS FROM YOUR WIF 1094 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,559 >> Reporter: MORE THAN A YEAR HAD PASSED SINCE LESLIE'S DEATH. 1095 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:54,627 AND NOW BOB NEULANDER WAS SITTING DOWN WITH 1096 00:54:54,627 --> 00:54:58,331 D.A. BILL FITZPATRICK FOR A VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW 1097 00:54:58,331 --> 00:55:02,202 >> HIS ATTORNEY KNOWS THAT I AM LEANING TOWARDS THAT YOUR CLIENT 1098 00:55:02,202 --> 00:55:05,171 MURDERED HIS WIFE. I SAID, "ED, THERE'S THIS BLOOD. 1099 00:55:05,171 --> 00:55:09,676 IT'S JUST SO INCONSISTENT. "HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT." 1100 00:55:09,676 --> 00:55:12,045 >> Reporter: AND SO FITZPATRICK ASKED HIM TO START AT THE 1101 00:55:12,045 --> 00:55:14,147 BEGINNING. >> I JUST ASKED HIM, "TELL ME 1102 00:55:14,147 --> 00:55:17,283 WHAT YOU DID THAT DAY. I WANNA BE AS THOROUGH AND 1103 00:55:17,283 --> 00:55:19,953 METICULOUS AS POSSIBLE." DO YOU REMEMBER ON THE 17th, 1104 00:55:19,953 --> 00:55:23,056 ABOUT WHAT TIME YOU SAID YOU WOKE UP? 1105 00:55:23,056 --> 00:55:27,293 >> SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 6:00 AND 6:30 1106 00:55:27,293 --> 00:55:33,633 I DECIDED TO GO FOR A RUN, WHICH I NORMALLY DO. 1107 00:55:33,633 --> 00:55:37,337 I, UH, GO PICK UP THE NEWSPAPER, AND THEN I PUT ON COFFEE 'CAUSE 1108 00:55:37,337 --> 00:55:39,906 I BRING A CUP -- A CUP OF COFFEE TO LESLIE EVERY MORNING. 1109 00:55:39,906 --> 00:55:42,075 >> OKAY. TELL US WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO 1110 00:55:42,075 --> 00:55:46,780 INTO HER BEDROOM >> UH, THE SHOWER IS ON. 1111 00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:54,154 I HEAR THE WATER RUNNING, AND I PLACE IT ON THE NIGHTSTAND NEXT 1112 00:55:54,154 --> 00:55:56,856 TO WHERE SHE GOT OUT OF BED. >> Reporter: BOB SAID THEY HAD 1113 00:55:56,856 --> 00:55:59,492 TO BE SOMEWHERE BY AROUND 9:00, SO A LITTLE WHILE LATER, HE 1114 00:55:59,492 --> 00:56:02,629 RETURNED TO CHECK ON HIS WIFE. HE SAID IT SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS 1115 00:56:02,629 --> 00:56:09,469 STILL IN THE SHOWER. >> I OPENED THE DOOR TO 1116 00:56:09,469 --> 00:56:14,207 OBVIOUSLY SEE IF, YOU KNOW, SHE'S JUST FORGETTING THE TIME 1117 00:56:14,207 --> 00:56:19,045 AS SOMETIMES SHE DID AND, UH, SHE WAS LAYING ON THE 1118 00:56:19,045 --> 00:56:24,284 FLOOR. I BASICALLY WENT INTO SHOCK 1119 00:56:24,284 --> 00:56:26,853 SEEING HER THERE I ATTEMPTED TO RESUSCITATE HER 1120 00:56:26,853 --> 00:56:31,057 >> Reporter: HE DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED NEXT -- A DESPERATE 1121 00:56:31,057 --> 00:56:34,761 ATTEMPT TO ADMINISTER CPR, WHICH INCLUDED MOVING HIS WIFE SEVERAL 1122 00:56:34,761 --> 00:56:37,931 TIMES, FIRST IN THE LARGE BATHROOM, THEN ALL THE WAY INTO 1123 00:56:37,931 --> 00:56:41,101 THE BEDROOM. >> ANY SIGN OF LIFE AT ALL FROM 1124 00:56:41,101 --> 00:56:45,305 LESLIE >> I GUESS THAT I THOUGHT THAT I 1125 00:56:45,305 --> 00:56:50,343 HEARD SOME BREATH SOUNDS I SAID, "I CAN'T SEE HER COLOR." 1126 00:56:50,343 --> 00:56:54,781 I PICKED HER UP AGAIN AND MOVED HER TOWARDS THE BAY WINDOW WHICH 1127 00:56:54,781 --> 00:56:56,883 WE HAD, UH, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE HER AND -- AS WELL AS 1128 00:56:56,883 --> 00:57:00,553 RESUSCITATE HER MORE APPROPRIATELY. 1129 00:57:00,553 --> 00:57:04,224 'CAUSE I WAS STILL IN THE DOORWAY OF THAT BATHROOM, WHICH 1130 00:57:04,224 --> 00:57:06,860 WAS NARROW AND DARK. >> Reporter: BUT GO AGAINST HIS 1131 00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:09,896 MEDICAL TRAINING AND MOVE HIS GRAVELY INJURED WIFE ALMOST 1132 00:57:09,896 --> 00:57:13,733 50 FEET? >> WHY WOULD YOU HAVE MOVED HER 1133 00:57:13,733 --> 00:57:17,404 FROM WHERE SHE WAS >> I WAS MOVING HER BECAUSE I 1134 00:57:17,404 --> 00:57:19,506 THOUGHT SHE WAS BREATHING. IT WAS STILL A DARKENED AREA 1135 00:57:19,506 --> 00:57:22,709 WHERE YOU COULDN'T REALLY SEE WELL 1136 00:57:22,709 --> 00:57:26,379 >> YOU HAVE THE SKYLIGHTS THERE. WHY NOT TAKE HER OUT OF THE 1137 00:57:26,379 --> 00:57:28,548 SHOWER, GET HER IN A COMFORTABLE POSITION ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR, 1138 00:57:28,548 --> 00:57:33,286 AND DO ALL YOUR WORK RIGHT THERE? 1139 00:57:33,286 --> 00:57:36,523 WHY NOT? >> THE -- THE -- THE ANSWER IS, 1140 00:57:36,523 --> 00:57:40,193 FIRST OF ALL, I WAS IN COMPLETE SHOCK AND TRAUMA FROM THIS 1141 00:57:40,193 --> 00:57:43,863 SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS PUT HER IN A COMFORTABLE POSITION. 1142 00:57:43,863 --> 00:57:46,466 >> DO YOU NOTICE ANY STIFFNESS OF HER MUSCLES OR HER BODY ANY 1143 00:57:46,466 --> 00:57:53,573 WAY? >> UH, NOT THAT I NOTICED, NO. 1144 00:57:53,573 --> 00:57:55,442 >> AND WHEN YOU'RE PERFORMING THE MOUTH-TO-MOUTH, ARE YOU ABLE 1145 00:57:55,442 --> 00:57:58,078 TO DO THAT ARE YOU ABLE TO OPEN HER MOUTH 1146 00:57:58,078 --> 00:58:01,748 >> YES >> WITHOUT ANY GREAT EFFORT ON 1147 00:58:01,748 --> 00:58:04,918 YOUR PART? >> I DON'T REMEMBER ANY EFFORT 1148 00:58:04,918 --> 00:58:08,021 I REMEMBER BEING ABLE TO OPEN THE MOUTH AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE 1149 00:58:08,021 --> 00:58:10,156 HER THE BREATHS. >> Reporter: BUT THAT DIDN'T FIT 1150 00:58:10,156 --> 00:58:16,029 WITH WHAT JENNA SAID IN HER INTERVIEW. 1151 00:58:16,029 --> 00:58:18,098 >> HER JAW WAS REALLY STIFF. I STARTED SCREAMING THAT SHE'S 1152 00:58:18,098 --> 00:58:20,233 DEAD >> I DIDN'T GO INTO 1153 00:58:20,233 --> 00:58:22,335 CROSS-EXAMINATION MODE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT WE 1154 00:58:22,335 --> 00:58:25,572 HAD, THAT I WOULD NOT CROSS-EXAMINE HIM. 1155 00:58:25,572 --> 00:58:28,708 I WOULD JUST ASK HIM QUESTIONS >> Reporter: AND HE HAD PLENTY 1156 00:58:28,708 --> 00:58:32,379 OF QUESTIONS LEFT. >> HE WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN TO ME 1157 00:58:32,379 --> 00:58:35,515 ALL OF THIS BLOOD THAT MADE ME SUSPICIOUS 1158 00:58:35,515 --> 00:58:39,185 >> I ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU, IN ALL FAIRNESS, THAT ON THE 1159 00:58:39,185 --> 00:58:43,056 HEADBOARD, THERE ARE AT LEAST NINE BLOOD SPATTERS FROM YOUR 1160 00:58:43,056 --> 00:58:46,793 WIFE AND BLOOD SPATTER ON THE CEILING. 1161 00:58:46,793 --> 00:58:54,067 BLOOD ON THE FLOOR WHERE HER BODY WAS RESTING, BLOOD SPATTER 1162 00:58:54,067 --> 00:58:56,136 ON THE WALL. I'M ASKING YOU, DO YOU -- DO YOU 1163 00:58:56,136 --> 00:58:59,239 HAVE ANY EXPLANATION FOR THAT? >> NO, I DON'T 1164 00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,341 >> THE IRONY OF IT IS, WHEN WE GOT TO THE CRESCENDO OF THE 1165 00:59:01,341 --> 00:59:02,909 MOMENT OF THE INTERVIEW AND I SAID, "HOW DID THAT BLOOD GET 1166 00:59:02,909 --> 00:59:06,079 THERE? "I DON'T KNOW. 1167 00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,282 AND I -- YOU -- YOU REALLY CAN'T PICK IT UP ON THE TAPE, BUT I 1168 00:59:09,282 --> 00:59:11,918 LOOKED AT HIS LAWYER LIKE TO SAY, "WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE 1169 00:59:11,918 --> 00:59:15,588 I -- I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF IT. 1170 00:59:15,588 --> 00:59:19,793 AND I WAS -- I WAS STUNNED WHEN HE SAID THAT 1171 00:59:19,793 --> 00:59:22,429 >> Reporter: SO BOB NEULANDER'S STORY HAD PROBLEMS 1172 00:59:22,429 --> 00:59:25,632 D.A. FITZPATRICK REACHED OUT AGAIN TO THE CURRENT MEDICAL 1173 00:59:25,632 --> 00:59:28,802 EXAMINER WHO HAD BEEN CHALLENGED BY MARY AND OTHER PATHOLOGISTS 1174 00:59:28,802 --> 00:59:32,572 WHO'D REVIEWED THE CASE. AND IN THE SUMMER OF 2014, 1175 00:59:32,572 --> 00:59:36,743 ALMOST 2 YEARS AFTER LESLIE DIED, HE CHANGED HIS OPINION TO 1176 00:59:36,743 --> 00:59:38,378 HOMICIDE >> HE CHANGED THE MANNER OF 1177 00:59:38,378 --> 00:59:40,447 DEATH. HE DID 1178 00:59:40,447 --> 00:59:42,515 YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SOME PROFESSIONAL COURAGE TO SAY, "I 1179 00:59:42,515 --> 00:59:45,719 WAS WRONG. >> Reporter: THE CHANGE ON THE 1180 00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,255 DEATH CERTIFICATE WAS ENOUGH FOR D.A. FITZPATRICK TO FINALLY MAKE 1181 00:59:49,255 --> 00:59:53,326 A MOVE >> THERE WAS AN ARREST THIS 1182 00:59:53,326 --> 00:59:56,262 MORNING OF ROBERT NEULANDER. >> Reporter: THE OBSTETRICIAN 1183 00:59:56,262 --> 00:59:59,399 WHO'D BROUGHT SO MANY LIVES INTO THE WORLD WAS NOW ACCUSED OF 1184 00:59:59,399 --> 01:00:02,402 TAKING ONE, CHARGED WITH SECOND-DEGREE MURDER AND 1185 01:00:02,402 --> 01:00:08,375 TAMPERING WITH PHYSICAL EVIDENCE 1186 01:00:08,375 --> 01:00:09,976 IN SYRACUSE, THE STORY WAS HEADLINE NEWS. 1187 01:00:09,976 --> 01:00:11,578 >> HE IS ACCUSED OF KILLING HIS WIFE LESLIE AND COVERING IT UP 1188 01:00:11,578 --> 01:00:13,613 TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE FELL IN THE SHOWER 1189 01:00:13,613 --> 01:00:18,885 >> Reporter: THROUGH HIS ATTORNEY, DR. NEULANDER'S FIRMLY 1190 01:00:18,885 --> 01:00:20,987 DENIED IT ALL. >> IN 40 YEARS OF CRIMINAL 1191 01:00:20,987 --> 01:00:33,633 PRACTICE, I HAVE NEVER HAD A CLIENT WHOSE INNOCENCE I BELIEVE 1192 01:00:33,633 --> 01:00:36,269 IN MORE FIRMLY THAN HIM. >> Reporter: AND MEGAN SAYS 1193 01:00:36,269 --> 01:00:37,871 THERE WERE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN TOWN WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT 1194 01:00:37,871 --> 01:00:39,372 DR. NEULANDER WAS A KILLER, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF LESLIE'S 1195 01:00:39,372 --> 01:00:40,940 OWN FAMILY >> YOU HAD HIS CHILDREN WHO WERE 1196 01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:43,076 STANDING BEHIND HIM FROM THE BEGINNING. 1197 01:00:43,076 --> 01:00:45,178 AND YOU HAD HER SIBLINGS, WHO WERE ALSO STANDING BY HIM, WHICH 1198 01:00:45,178 --> 01:00:49,382 I THINK WAS A REALLY POWERFUL SYMBOL FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE 1199 01:00:49,382 --> 01:00:50,984 ONE WOULD THINK THAT IF -- IF HE HAD KILLED HIS WIFE, HER 1200 01:00:50,984 --> 01:00:52,652 SIBLINGS, LESLIE'S SIBLINGS, WOULD NOT BE STANDING BY HIM 1201 01:00:52,652 --> 01:00:54,688 BUT THEY WERE. >> Reporter: DID PEOPLE COMMEND 1202 01:00:54,688 --> 01:00:58,425 YOU FOR STANDING UP, OR DID SOME PEOPLE TURN ON YOU 1203 01:00:58,425 --> 01:01:00,060 >> IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY, AND SOME PEOPLE FELT, "WELL, GOOD, 1204 01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:04,731 SOMEONE'S SPEAKING UP FOR LESLIE." 1205 01:01:04,731 --> 01:01:08,435 BUT OTHER PEOPLE FELT LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU EVEN PURSUING THIS 1206 01:01:08,435 --> 01:01:10,403 CAN'T YOU JUST LET THINGS REST WHERE THEY ARE?" 1207 01:01:10,403 --> 01:01:12,639 THIS IS TERRIBLE FOR THE CHILDREN 1208 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:17,911 THEY DON'T DESERVE THIS. THEY DON'T 1209 01:01:17,911 --> 01:01:21,614 BUT I DIDN'T KILL HER. >> THIS IS ABOUT STANDING UP FOR 1210 01:01:21,614 --> 01:01:23,216 THAT, YOU KNOW, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAPPENS IN ALL KINDS OF 1211 01:01:23,216 --> 01:01:27,387 HOMES. AND SHE DIDN'T DESERVE THIS. 1212 01:01:27,387 --> 01:01:29,556 >> Reporter: WHETHER OR NOT BOB NEULANDER KILLED HIS WIFE 1213 01:01:29,556 --> 01:01:31,658 WOULDN'T BE UP TO LESLIE'S FRIENDS. 1214 01:01:31,658 --> 01:01:36,930 IT WOULD BE UP TO A JURY TO DECIDE 1215 01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:40,100 >>> COMING UP -- A DAUGHTER TAKES THE STAND 1216 01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:43,303 >> EVERYONE WAS WATCHING AND WAITING AND WONDERING, "WHAT 1217 01:01:43,303 --> 01:01:46,973 WILL SHE SAY?" >> AND THE PROSECUTOR'S DAUGHTER 1218 01:01:46,973 --> 01:01:49,109 DETECTS A NEW CLUE -- THE COFFEE CUP. 1219 01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:52,212 >> SOMETHING ALWAYS CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. 1220 01:01:52,212 --> 01:01:52,746 ATTENTION. WE SHOULD SEE BLOOD ON THAT. 1221 01:02:10,063 --> 01:02:12,699 OF 2015, DR. BOB NEULANDER WENT ON TRIAL FOR HIS WIFE'S MURDER 1222 01:02:12,699 --> 01:02:15,335 >> MORE COMPELLING TESTIMONY TODAY. 1223 01:02:15,335 --> 01:02:17,070 >> ALL EYES WERE ON THIS TRIAL I MEAN, OUR CREWS BASICALLY 1224 01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:20,640 LIVED AT THE COURTHOUSE DURING THIS TIME. 1225 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,344 AND EVERYONE WAS WAITING ON BAITED BREATH TO SEE WHAT WOULD 1226 01:02:24,344 --> 01:02:26,446 BE THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT. >> Reporter: D.A. 1227 01:02:26,446 --> 01:02:29,115 BILL FITZPATRICK WAS JOINED BY ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY 1228 01:02:29,115 --> 01:02:31,217 MELINDA MCGUNNIGLE >> THIS TRIAL WAS ONE OF THE 1229 01:02:31,217 --> 01:02:34,387 MOST PUBLICIZED TRIALS THAT THIS AREA HAS SEEN. 1230 01:02:34,387 --> 01:02:37,090 >> I TRY NOT TO PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT, WHETHER 1231 01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:39,626 THERE'S PUBLICITY OR NOT WHEN I'M IN TRIAL MODE, I'M 1232 01:02:39,626 --> 01:02:42,762 FOCUSED ON THAT. >> Reporter: CAMERAS WERE NOT 1233 01:02:42,762 --> 01:02:47,801 ALLOWED IN COURT, BUT EACH DAY THOSE CREWS CAPTURED THE SAME 1234 01:02:47,801 --> 01:02:50,170 DRAMATIC SCENE IN THE HALLWAY. >> BOB WAS FLANKED SIDE BY SIDE 1235 01:02:50,170 --> 01:03:03,850 WITH HIS CHILDREN, WITH LESLIE'S SIBLINGS 1236 01:03:03,850 --> 01:03:06,519 WITH, YOU KNOW, FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND HIS ATTORNEY. 1237 01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,355 THEY WANTED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO KNOW, "WE STAND BY OUR DAD. 1238 01:03:08,355 --> 01:03:11,391 >> DID YOU WORRY THAT THE JURY WOULD SEE THAT FAMILY IS 1239 01:03:11,391 --> 01:03:12,559 STANDING BEHIND BOB NEULANDER? I MEAN, COULD HE REALLY HAVE 1240 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,461 KILLED HER IF -- IF THEY'RE SUPPORTING HIM 1241 01:03:14,461 --> 01:03:16,129 >> YEAH. WE -- MELINDA AND I USED TO JOKE 1242 01:03:16,129 --> 01:03:17,630 AT THE TRIAL, YOU KNOW, "WHO HAS HUG BOB DUTY TODAY?" 1243 01:03:17,630 --> 01:03:19,699 >> AND -- AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU HAVE A DOCTOR. 1244 01:03:19,699 --> 01:03:21,401 >> RIGHT I'VE GOT A VERY, VERY LIKABLE 1245 01:03:21,401 --> 01:03:23,336 GUY WHO BRINGS BABIES INTO THE WORLD. 1246 01:03:23,336 --> 01:03:24,938 >> Reporter: AND THAT WAS EXACTLY THE MESSAGE NEULANDER'S 1247 01:03:24,938 --> 01:03:28,608 DEFENSE ATTORNEY TRIED TO CONVEY TO THE JURY. 1248 01:03:28,608 --> 01:03:31,845 >> IT WAS, "THERE'S NO REASON WHY THIS MAN WHO LOVED HIS WIFE 1249 01:03:31,845 --> 01:03:36,082 MORE THAN ANYTHING WOULD EVER TRY TO HARM HER. 1250 01:03:36,082 --> 01:03:38,651 >> Reporter: THE MEDICAL EXAMINER GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST 1251 01:03:38,651 --> 01:03:42,889 TIME, HIS ATTORNEY SAID. LESLIE'S DEATH WAS AN ACCIDENT 1252 01:03:42,889 --> 01:03:46,092 THE DEFENSE CALLED A PATHOLOGIST WHO LOOKED AT THE SAME REPORTS 1253 01:03:46,092 --> 01:03:48,661 AND CONCLUDED LESLIE'S HEAD INJURIES WERE CONSISTENT WITH A 1254 01:03:48,661 --> 01:03:51,831 FALL IN THE SHOWER IN HIS VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW, BOB 1255 01:03:51,831 --> 01:03:55,502 HAD SUGGESTED HIS WIFE'S FALL WAS CAUSED BY VERTIGO. 1256 01:03:55,502 --> 01:03:58,138 >> COULD YOU, UH, TELL US ABOUT THAT VERTIGO 1257 01:03:58,138 --> 01:04:01,841 UH, WHAT PHYSICIANS HAD SHE SEEN FOR VERTIGO? 1258 01:04:01,841 --> 01:04:05,378 >> SHE WAS, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING WHAT'S CALLED 1259 01:04:05,378 --> 01:04:10,250 PHYSICAL THERAPY FOR VERTIGO AND SHE WAS ALSO DOING 1260 01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:14,487 EXERCISES -- INVERSION EXERCISES FOR THAT ON A REGULAR, YOU KNOW, 1261 01:04:14,487 --> 01:04:16,256 ALMOST DAILY BASIS >> Reporter: LESLIE'S SISTER 1262 01:04:16,256 --> 01:04:18,191 TOLD THE JURY THAT LESLIE HAD SUFFERED DIZZY SPELLS NOT LONG 1263 01:04:18,191 --> 01:04:21,361 BEFORE HER DEATH AND A FRIEND TESTIFIED THAT ON A 1264 01:04:21,361 --> 01:04:24,064 TRIP TO ISRAEL THE PREVIOUS WINTER, HE'D SEEN LESLIE FALL. 1265 01:04:24,064 --> 01:04:29,269 >> PART OF THE DEFENSE'S STRATEGY WAS TO PLAY UP THIS 1266 01:04:29,269 --> 01:04:30,837 IDEA THAT SHE HAD VERTIGO AND THAT THAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR THE 1267 01:04:30,837 --> 01:04:35,075 REASON THAT SHE SLIPPED AND FELL IN THE SHOWER THAT DAY 1268 01:04:35,075 --> 01:04:38,211 >> Reporter: AS FOR ALL THAT BLOOD IN THE BEDROOM, THE 1269 01:04:38,211 --> 01:04:39,746 DEFENSE SAID THAT COULDN'T BE TRUSTED. 1270 01:04:39,746 --> 01:04:41,314 PARAMEDICS HAD TRAMPLED ALL OVER THE SCENE. 1271 01:04:41,314 --> 01:04:46,519 AND THAT BLOOD SPATTER ALL AROUND LESLIE'S BED? 1272 01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:47,754 THE DEFENSE SAID THAT COULD HAVE COME FROM A LONG SLEEVE SHIRT 1273 01:04:47,754 --> 01:04:49,789 NEULANDER WAS WEARING. >> HE SAID, "I WAS RACING 1274 01:04:49,789 --> 01:04:52,492 AGAINST TIME TO SAVE MY BELOVED WIFE 1275 01:04:52,492 --> 01:04:55,562 I HAD A BLOODY SHIRT ON, YOU KNOW, FROM -- FROM HER INJURIES. 1276 01:04:55,562 --> 01:04:59,265 I WAS COVERED IN BLOOD RIPPED THE SHIRT OFF TO TRY TO, 1277 01:04:59,265 --> 01:05:01,534 YOU KNOW, ADMINISTER CPR AND THAT THAT COULD ACCOUNT FOR 1278 01:05:01,534 --> 01:05:05,071 THE BLOOD BEING SPATTERED EVERYWHERE." 1279 01:05:05,071 --> 01:05:07,307 >> Reporter: AND, THE DEFENSE ARGUED, IF LESLIE'S DEATH WAS A 1280 01:05:07,307 --> 01:05:11,411 MURDER, THEN WHAT HAD SHE BEEN STRUCK WITH? 1281 01:05:11,411 --> 01:05:13,546 EVEN THE D.A. COULDN'T SAY >> YOU HAD NO MURDER WEAPON. 1282 01:05:13,546 --> 01:05:15,849 >> CORRECT >> YOU HAD NO ONE WHO HAD 1283 01:05:15,849 --> 01:05:18,785 ACTUALLY SEEN THE CRIME HAPPEN YOU HAD NO CONFESSION. 1284 01:05:18,785 --> 01:05:20,353 NO VIDEO >> YEAH. 1285 01:05:20,353 --> 01:05:22,489 I THOUGHT IT WAS AN UPHILL BATTLE 1286 01:05:22,489 --> 01:05:25,125 >> Reporter: THE POLICE HAD PACKED UP AND LEFT RIGHT AFTER 1287 01:05:25,125 --> 01:05:27,227 THE M.E. GAVE HIS OPINION. THE DEFENSE POINTED OUT THEY'D 1288 01:05:27,227 --> 01:05:30,430 HARDLY DONE ANY INVESTIGATING THAT DAY 1289 01:05:30,430 --> 01:05:33,066 >> THE DEFENSE DEFINITELY BLAMED THE POLICE FOR A BOTCHED 1290 01:05:33,066 --> 01:05:35,802 INVESTIGATION. >> Reporter: AND CERTAINLY, SAID 1291 01:05:35,802 --> 01:05:37,837 THE DEFENSE, IF BOB HAD DONE THE UNTHINKABLE, HIS OWN DAUGHTER 1292 01:05:37,837 --> 01:05:42,075 WOULDN'T BE STANDING IN HIS CORNER 1293 01:05:42,075 --> 01:05:45,145 WITH EMOTIONS RUNNING HIGH, JENNA, BY THEN 25, TOOK THE 1294 01:05:45,145 --> 01:05:48,815 STAND IN HER FATHER'S DEFENSE. >> SHE WAS INCREDIBLY FRAGILE. 1295 01:05:48,815 --> 01:05:52,485 SHE HAD LOST HER BELOVED MOTHER. AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS THEY WERE 1296 01:05:52,485 --> 01:05:56,356 BEST FRIENDS THEY WERE INCREDIBLY CLOSE 1297 01:05:56,356 --> 01:05:58,892 AND NOW SHE HAS TO TAKE THE STAND IN THE TRIAL OF HER 1298 01:05:58,892 --> 01:06:01,561 FATHER EVERYONE WAS WATCHING AND 1299 01:06:01,561 --> 01:06:06,299 WAITING AND WONDERING, WHAT WILL SHE SAY? 1300 01:06:06,299 --> 01:06:09,436 HOW WILL SHE ACT >> Reporter: JENNA TOLD THE JURY 1301 01:06:09,436 --> 01:06:14,708 ABOUT THAT HORRIFIC SEPTEMBER MORNING. 1302 01:06:14,708 --> 01:06:16,810 HOW SHE'D CALLED 911, THEN CAME RUNNING TO HELP JUST AS HER DAD 1303 01:06:16,810 --> 01:06:22,615 WAS PULLING HER MOM OUT OF THE SHOWER 1304 01:06:22,615 --> 01:06:24,718 IT WAS A HEARTBREAKING STORY BUT IN IT, THE D.A. SAW PLENTY 1305 01:06:24,718 --> 01:06:26,319 OF INCONSISTENCIES >> YOU HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH 1306 01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:28,888 HER TESTIMONY. >> BOY, DID I EVER 1307 01:06:28,888 --> 01:06:31,057 >> Reporter: ON THE STAND, JENNA SAID SHE DIDN'T REMEMBER SEEING 1308 01:06:31,057 --> 01:06:34,728 BLOOD IN THE BEDROOM UNTIL AFTER HER MOTHER HAD BEEN MOVED. 1309 01:06:34,728 --> 01:06:38,398 BUT D.A. FITZPATRICK TOLD THE JURY TO LISTEN TO WHAT JENNA 1310 01:06:38,398 --> 01:06:54,781 SAID ON THAT 911 CALL AS SHE APPROACHES THE THE SCENE 1311 01:06:54,781 --> 01:06:56,449 911 CALL: OH, MY GOD. THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE 1312 01:06:56,449 --> 01:06:57,951 >> WAIT A MINUTE THERE SHOULDN'T BE BLOOD 1313 01:06:57,951 --> 01:07:01,688 ANYWHERE MOM IS STILL IN THE SHOWER 1314 01:07:01,688 --> 01:07:03,790 AND SHE CAN'T SEE MOM. >> JENNA IS SEEING BLOOD IN THE 1315 01:07:03,790 --> 01:07:05,925 BEDROOM BEFORE HER MOM'S EVEN BEEN MOVED 1316 01:07:05,925 --> 01:07:08,495 >> NO -- NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. >> Reporter: IN COURT, JENNA 1317 01:07:08,495 --> 01:07:10,163 TESTIFIED THAT SHE HELPED HER DAD MOVE HER MOTHER. 1318 01:07:10,163 --> 01:07:12,732 THE D.A. SAYS THAT CONTRADICTED WHAT SHE SAID IN HER TAPED 1319 01:07:12,732 --> 01:07:15,835 INTERVIEW AND ON THE 911 CALL. >> DAD, PUT HER DOWN 1320 01:07:15,835 --> 01:07:17,037 HER NECK MIGHT BE BROKEN >> IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO LISTEN 1321 01:07:17,037 --> 01:07:19,039 TO "DON'T MOVE HER. 1322 01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:20,540 I MEAN, THIS IS A 24 YEAR-OLD TELLING THE -- 1323 01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:23,743 >> THE DOCTOR. >> -- THE 60 YEAR OLD DOCTOR 1324 01:07:23,743 --> 01:07:25,445 AND SHE'S PLEADING WITH HIM TO DO THAT. 1325 01:07:25,445 --> 01:07:27,547 YET HE CONTINUES, OBVIOUSLY, TO MOVE HER 1326 01:07:27,547 --> 01:07:29,115 >> I DON'T MEAN TO PILE ON HER GRIEF. 1327 01:07:29,115 --> 01:07:30,717 I CONSIDER HER VICTIM NUMBER TWO. 1328 01:07:30,717 --> 01:07:32,786 >> Reporter: THE D.A. BELIEVED BOB NEULANDER HAD USED HIS 1329 01:07:32,786 --> 01:07:34,387 DAUGHTER AS PART OF A COVERUP, CALLING HER TO THE SCENE OF THE 1330 01:07:34,387 --> 01:07:37,057 CRIME AS HE PRETENDED TO TRY TO SAVE THE WOMAN HE HAD JUST 1331 01:07:37,057 --> 01:07:39,526 VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED. >> HE HAD TO MAKE EFFORTS TO 1332 01:07:39,526 --> 01:07:41,127 COVER IT UP BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENT ASSAULT THAT HAD ALREADY 1333 01:07:41,127 --> 01:07:43,329 TAKEN PLACE. IF HE LEAVES HER IN THE SHOWER, 1334 01:07:43,329 --> 01:07:45,965 HOW IS HE GONNA EXPLAIN THAT TO THE E.M.T.s? 1335 01:07:45,965 --> 01:07:49,836 >> YOU ARGUED THAT THERE WAS JUST TOO MUCH BLOOD IN THAT 1336 01:07:49,836 --> 01:07:52,305 BEDROOM FROM A SLIP AND FALL IN THE SHOWER 1337 01:07:52,305 --> 01:07:54,908 >> RIGHT SHE ALLEGEDLY FELL IN THE 1338 01:07:54,908 --> 01:07:57,077 SHOWER BUT SHE'S 50, 60 FEET IN THE 1339 01:07:57,077 --> 01:07:59,145 BEDROOM. AND THEN THERE'S BLOOD SPATTER 1340 01:07:59,145 --> 01:08:01,414 ON THE WALL. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTORS 1341 01:08:01,414 --> 01:08:05,018 SAID THEY BELIEVED BOB DISPOSED OF EVIDENCE, TOO 1342 01:08:05,018 --> 01:08:07,087 IN FACT, THE FAMILY HOUSEKEEPER TOLD THE JURY SHE WAS CERTAIN 1343 01:08:07,087 --> 01:08:10,223 THAT LESLIE'S BEDSHEETS HAD BEEN CHANGED. 1344 01:08:10,223 --> 01:08:12,258 >> SHE NOTICED THAT THE SHEETS THAT WERE ON THE BED WERE NOT 1345 01:08:12,258 --> 01:08:15,028 THE ONES THAT SHE HAD PUT ON THE BED THE PREVIOUS MONDAY. 1346 01:08:15,028 --> 01:08:17,564 AND THE BED DIDN'T LOOK THE WAY SHE MADE IT. 1347 01:08:17,564 --> 01:08:22,335 I MEAN, SHE MADE THE BED A PARTICULAR WAY 1348 01:08:22,335 --> 01:08:23,903 YOUR THEORY IS THAT HE -- DR. NEULANDER, TOOK THE SHEETS 1349 01:08:23,903 --> 01:08:25,605 OFF THE BED AND -- AND WASHED THEM 1350 01:08:25,605 --> 01:08:28,274 OR - >> NO. 1351 01:08:28,274 --> 01:08:29,275 HE GOT RID OF 'EM. >> Reporter: AND THERE WAS ONE 1352 01:08:29,275 --> 01:08:31,311 MORE DETAIL THAT THE PROSECUTION SAID WAS PART OF STAGING THE 1353 01:08:31,311 --> 01:08:33,413 SCENE. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NONE OF 1354 01:08:33,413 --> 01:08:36,583 THE PROFESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS NOTICED, BUT WAS POINTED OUT BY 1355 01:08:36,583 --> 01:08:39,219 FITZPATRICK'S OWN DAUGHTER AT THE TIME, SARA FITZPATRICK 1356 01:08:39,219 --> 01:08:41,321 WAS A COLLEGE FORENSICS MAJOR AND WAS LOOKING AT THE CRIME 1357 01:08:41,321 --> 01:08:44,457 SCENE PHOTOS FROM HER DAD'S CASE 1358 01:08:44,457 --> 01:08:48,161 IN A PICTURE OF THE NIGHTSTAND, SHE STARED AT THE COFFEE CUP BOB 1359 01:08:48,161 --> 01:08:51,331 SAID HE BROUGHT TO LESLIE, AND SOMETHING JUMPED OUT AT HER. 1360 01:08:51,331 --> 01:08:53,967 >> SOMETHING ALWAYS CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WITH THAT PHOTO OF THE 1361 01:08:53,967 --> 01:08:57,671 NIGHTSTAND IT'S BRIGHT WHITE AMONGST OTHER 1362 01:08:57,671 --> 01:09:00,840 OBJECTS. WE SHOULD SEE BLOOD ON THAT. 1363 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,511 I MEAN, WE'RE ZOOMIN' IN ON THIS PHOTO. 1364 01:09:04,511 --> 01:09:06,179 SEEING MINUSCULE DROPS OF BLOOD ON THESE WATER BOTTLES, AND THIS 1365 01:09:06,179 --> 01:09:08,214 TISSUE BOX AND IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO SEE 1366 01:09:08,214 --> 01:09:12,419 BLOOD ON THAT COFFEE CUP >> WHAT DID THAT SAY TO YOU? 1367 01:09:12,419 --> 01:10:00,834 >> THAT THAT COFFEE CUP WAS INSERTED INTO THE SCENE AFTER 1368 01:10:00,834 --> 01:10:03,470 >> Reporter: AFTER EIGHT DAYS OF TESTIMONY, BOB NEULANDER'S CASE 1369 01:10:03,470 --> 01:10:07,674 WAS ABOUT TO GO TO THE JURY. BUT SOMETHING WAS MISSING. 1370 01:10:07,674 --> 01:10:09,809 YOU KNOW THAT JURORS LIKE TO HAVE MOTIVE. 1371 01:10:09,809 --> 01:10:12,379 THEY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE COULD DO SOMETHING SO 1372 01:10:12,379 --> 01:10:14,014 HEINOUS. >> I TOLD THE JURY, I SAID, 1373 01:10:14,014 --> 01:10:16,082 "LOOK, I -- I DON'T KNOW WHY HE KILLED HER 1374 01:10:16,082 --> 01:10:20,854 I CAN -- I CAN SUGGEST TO YOU, THOUGH, THAT THIS WAS NOT A 1375 01:10:20,854 --> 01:10:24,024 PERFECT MARRIAGE." >> Reporter: THE DA DID NOT CALL 1376 01:10:24,024 --> 01:10:27,193 LESLIE'S FRIENDS, LIKE NEVIN, TO SHARE WHAT THEY KNEW ABOUT BOB 1377 01:10:27,193 --> 01:10:30,897 AND LESLIE'S RELATIONSHIP. THAT MEANT THE JURY NEVER HEARD 1378 01:10:30,897 --> 01:10:32,966 ABOUT THE TEXT MESSAGES BOB SENT ASKING NEVIN TO STAY OUT OF 1379 01:10:32,966 --> 01:10:38,238 THEIR MARRIAGE WHY -- WHY DID YOU NOT CALL 1380 01:10:38,238 --> 01:10:40,073 NEVIN ROBI TO THE STAND? >> I THINK IT -- IT WOULD'VE 1381 01:10:40,073 --> 01:10:41,975 BEEN DISTRACTING I DON'T THINK IT WAS A SERIOUS 1382 01:10:41,975 --> 01:10:44,544 RELATIONSHIP IT WOULD'VE BEEN TOO TANGENTIAL. 1383 01:10:44,544 --> 01:10:46,212 >> Reporter: SO NEVIN DIDN'T GET TO TELL THE JURY THAT THE 1384 01:10:46,212 --> 01:10:48,782 SEPARATION WAS IMMINENT AND THAT LESLIE WAS MAKING PLANS TO MOVE 1385 01:10:48,782 --> 01:10:50,884 OUT. OR THIS POTENTIALLY EXPLOSIVE 1386 01:10:50,884 --> 01:10:53,153 STORY. >> SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT BOB 1387 01:10:53,153 --> 01:10:55,088 AND HOW HE'S ACTING VERY ERRATIC. 1388 01:10:55,088 --> 01:10:58,324 >> Reporter: NEVIN SAYS THAT AT THEIR LAST LUNCH, LESLIE TOLD 1389 01:10:58,324 --> 01:11:01,494 HIM ABOUT AN INCIDENT WITH BOB IT HAPPENED IN THE BATHROOM. 1390 01:11:01,494 --> 01:11:03,363 >> HE CAME IN TO THE BATHROOM ONE DAY, AND HE WAS, LIKE, 1391 01:11:03,363 --> 01:11:05,098 REALLY KIND OF, LIKE, SEMI-AGGRESSIVE. 1392 01:11:05,098 --> 01:11:08,201 AND NOT AGGRESSIVE TO HER PHYSICALLY, JUST, LIKE, KIND OF, 1393 01:11:08,201 --> 01:11:09,869 LIKE, VERBALLY AND THEN HE'D, LIKE, LEAVE 1394 01:11:09,869 --> 01:11:11,538 QUICKLY. SO I WAS LIKE, "WELL, DO YOU 1395 01:11:11,538 --> 01:11:13,540 FEEL AFRAID? AND SHE'S LIKE, "NO. 1396 01:11:13,540 --> 01:11:15,608 NOT REALLY." >> Reporter: BUT NEVIN'S 1397 01:11:15,608 --> 01:11:17,777 INSTINCTS KICKED IN. >> I WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE, 1398 01:11:17,777 --> 01:11:21,981 "WELL, THEN DON'T -- DON'T STAY THERE THEN 1399 01:11:21,981 --> 01:11:24,651 YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THIS AREA, YOU HAVE MONEY. 1400 01:11:24,651 --> 01:11:26,319 STAY AT A HOTEL. >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO NEVIN, 1401 01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:30,490 LESLIE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. 1402 01:11:30,490 --> 01:11:33,126 WHEN NEVIN FOUND OUT LESLIE DIED IN THE SHOWER, HE WAS 1403 01:11:33,126 --> 01:11:36,329 IMMEDIATELY REMINDED OF THAT BATHROOM INCIDENT HE SAYS LESLIE 1404 01:11:36,329 --> 01:11:39,099 TOLD HIM ABOUT >> I WAS LIKE, "NO WAY." 1405 01:11:39,099 --> 01:11:41,101 >> Reporter: SO YOU PUT BATHROOM AND SHOWER - 1406 01:11:41,101 --> 01:11:42,769 >> YEAH, I WAS - >> Reporter: -- FALL TOGETHER. 1407 01:11:42,769 --> 01:11:43,737 >> -- JUST LIKE, "YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. 1408 01:11:43,737 --> 01:11:45,305 >> Reporter: TOO MUCH OF A COINCIDENCE? 1409 01:11:45,305 --> 01:11:47,440 >> WAY TOO MUCH OF A COINCIDENCE. 1410 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,543 YOU KNOW, I MEAN, COME ON. >> Reporter: BUT NONE OF THAT 1411 01:11:50,543 --> 01:11:54,781 CAME OUT IN THE TRIAL. >> THE JURY WAS LEFT WONDERING, 1412 01:11:54,781 --> 01:11:56,916 YOU KNOW, "WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHY HE WOULD, YOU KNOW, MURDER 1413 01:11:56,916 --> 01:11:59,586 HIS WIFE?" >> Reporter: THE JURORS 1414 01:11:59,586 --> 01:12:02,222 DELIBERATED FOR THREE DAYS AND THEN ANNOUNCED THEY'D 1415 01:12:02,222 --> 01:12:04,824 REACHED A VERDICT. >> IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS 1416 01:12:04,824 --> 01:12:09,062 WHERE YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP IN THE COURTROOM 1417 01:12:09,062 --> 01:12:11,664 WHAT WILL THE JURY DECIDE? >> Reporter: THE NEULANDER 1418 01:12:11,664 --> 01:12:13,800 FAMILY WALKED TO THE COURTROOM ARM IN ARM, BOTH JENNA AND 1419 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,571 BROTHER ARI CLINGING TO THEIR DAD. 1420 01:12:18,571 --> 01:12:20,940 THE TENSION WAS SUFFOCATING AS THE FOREPERSON ROSE TO DELIVER 1421 01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:24,544 THE VERDICT. GUILTY 1422 01:12:24,544 --> 01:12:28,081 GUILTY OF MURDERING HIS WIFE IN THE SECOND DEGREE AND TAMPERING 1423 01:12:28,081 --> 01:12:31,217 WITH PHYSICAL EVIDENCE >> NORMALLY, AT THAT POINT IN A 1424 01:12:31,217 --> 01:12:33,887 TRIAL, THE PROSECUTOR GETS UP, TURNS AROUND, REACHES OUT TO THE 1425 01:12:33,887 --> 01:12:35,989 VICTIM'S FAMILY, AND YOU HUG, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TEARS 1426 01:12:35,989 --> 01:12:38,658 INVOLVED AND IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO AS 1427 01:12:38,658 --> 01:12:42,896 PROSECUTORS. >> Reporter: NOT IN THIS CASE. 1428 01:12:42,896 --> 01:12:45,532 >> IN THIS CASE, YOU GET THE EVIL EYE 1429 01:12:45,532 --> 01:12:48,401 I HOPE YOU DIE >> I RECALL JENNA YELLING OUT TO 1430 01:12:48,401 --> 01:12:51,271 HER DAD, "I KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO THIS 1431 01:12:51,271 --> 01:12:54,474 I LOVE YOU." >> Reporter: BOB'S DEFENSE 1432 01:12:54,474 --> 01:12:57,110 ATTORNEY VOWED TO FIGHT ON >> BOB NEULANDER IS THE MOST 1433 01:12:57,110 --> 01:13:03,450 HONORABLE PERSON I HAVE EVER MET. 1434 01:13:03,450 --> 01:13:06,052 HIS CASE HAS BEEN A TRAVESTY FROM START TO FINISH, AND IT IS 1435 01:13:06,052 --> 01:13:08,621 NOT FINISHED >> Reporter: THREE MONTHS LATER, 1436 01:13:08,621 --> 01:13:11,825 BOB NEULANDER WAS SENTENCED 20 YEARS TO LIFE IN PRISON 1437 01:13:11,825 --> 01:13:15,061 IT HAD BEEN A TRYING FEW YEARS FOR LESLIE'S FRIENDS, BUT THEY 1438 01:13:15,061 --> 01:13:18,198 FELT AT PEACE WITH THE ROLES THEY PLAYED. 1439 01:13:18,198 --> 01:13:20,333 >> DO I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS 1440 01:13:20,333 --> 01:13:24,070 ABSOLUTELY >> IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT 1441 01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:28,274 SOME PEOPLE DON'T TALK TO ME OTHER PEOPLE SAY, "I'M GLAD YOU 1442 01:13:28,274 --> 01:13:30,877 SPOKE UP FOR LESLIE. >> ONCE HE WAS SENTENCED, MOST 1443 01:13:30,877 --> 01:13:34,080 PEOPLE THOUGHT, "CASE CLOSED", YOU KNOW, "HE'S GOING TO SPEND 1444 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,585 THIS TIME IN PRISON FOR THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE, AND THAT'S 1445 01:13:38,585 --> 01:13:41,454 THE LAST WE WILL HEAR FROM OR OF DR. NEULANDER. 1446 01:13:41,454 --> 01:13:43,490 >> Reporter: BUT THAT THOUGHT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE WRONG. 1447 01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:46,159 AFTER THE TRIAL, AN ALTERNATE JUROR CONTACTED THE DEFENSE 1448 01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:49,295 SAYING ONE OF THE JURORS HAD BEEN RECEIVING INFORMATION ABOUT 1449 01:13:49,295 --> 01:13:52,499 THE CASE >> THEY FOUND THAT JUROR NUMBER 1450 01:13:52,499 --> 01:13:56,102 12 HAD NOT ONLY JUST RECEIVED MEDIA ALERTS THAT SHE RECEIVED, 1451 01:13:56,102 --> 01:13:59,239 UPWARDS OF 7,000 TEXT MESSAGES FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS 1452 01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:02,509 THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL ASKING HER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CASE 1453 01:14:02,509 --> 01:14:06,713 >> 6,997 OF THEM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE 1454 01:14:06,713 --> 01:14:10,417 THE PROBLEMATIC EMAILS WAS THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A TEXT MESSAGE 1455 01:14:10,417 --> 01:14:16,790 FROM HER FATHER BEFORE SHE WAS SELECTED AS A JUROR, QUOTE, 1456 01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:19,392 "MAKE SURE HE'S GUILTY." THEN THERE WERE THREE TEXT 1457 01:14:19,392 --> 01:14:22,595 MESSAGES, I BELIEVE, FROM A FRIEND, "WHAT'S GOING ON 1458 01:14:22,595 --> 01:14:27,334 WHAT'D YOU THINK ABOUT JENNA IS THE SCARY GUY THERE?" 1459 01:14:27,334 --> 01:14:29,369 >> Reporter: DEFENSE ATTORNEYS FILED AN APPEAL BASED ON JUROR 1460 01:14:29,369 --> 01:14:32,505 MISCONDUCT MOTIONS WERE FILED, SEVERAL 1461 01:14:32,505 --> 01:14:35,675 HEARINGS WERE HELD THE APPEAL WENT ALL THE WAY TO 1462 01:14:35,675 --> 01:14:38,878 THE STATE'S HIGHEST COURT. >> THE NEXT APPEAL ON THIS 1463 01:14:38,878 --> 01:14:50,490 AFTERNOON'S CALENDAR IS PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK VERSUS 1464 01:14:50,490 --> 01:14:54,160 ROBERT NEULANDER >> Reporter: YOU ALL FELT 1465 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,262 CONFIDENT THAT THIS DID NOT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE TRIAL. 1466 01:14:56,262 --> 01:14:58,898 >> 100% CERTAINTY IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER VERDICT 1467 01:14:58,898 --> 01:15:03,136 >> Reporter: BUT ULTIMATELY THE COURT'S SEVEN JUDGE PANEL 1468 01:15:03,136 --> 01:15:05,271 UNANIMOUSLY DISAGREED WITH THE DA AND THREW OUT THE VERDICT 1469 01:15:05,271 --> 01:15:07,374 >> I WAS STUNNED, STUNNED. >> Reporter: NOT ONLY IS -- IS 1470 01:15:07,374 --> 01:15:08,541 BOB NEULANDER GRANTED A NEW TRIAL, BUT HE'S RELEASED FROM 1471 01:15:08,541 --> 01:15:09,943 PRISON >> RIGHT 1472 01:15:09,943 --> 01:15:11,511 OVER OUR OBJECTION, HE'S RELEASED ON BAIL 1473 01:15:11,511 --> 01:15:12,712 >> ROBERT, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK YOU SHOULDN'T 1474 01:15:12,712 --> 01:15:14,714 BE OUT OF PRISON WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 1475 01:15:14,714 --> 01:15:15,749 THAT >> Reporter: WERE YOU ANGRY? 1476 01:15:15,749 --> 01:15:17,884 >> WELL, I'LL KEEP MY EMOTIONS TO MYSELF. 1477 01:15:17,884 --> 01:15:20,687 >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY >> NO, I DON'T 1478 01:15:20,687 --> 01:15:22,122 >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT ALL 1479 01:15:22,122 --> 01:15:24,724 >> I JUST WANT TO BE WITH MY FAMILY AND PLEASE, JUST GIVE US 1480 01:15:24,724 --> 01:15:27,293 SOME TIME, PLEASE. >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE HAILED 1481 01:15:27,293 --> 01:15:28,895 IT AS A VICTORY, BUT BOB NEULANDER WAS NOT FREE AND 1482 01:15:28,895 --> 01:15:30,497 CLEAR. THE DA COULD TRY HIM AGAIN, BUT 1483 01:15:30,497 --> 01:15:32,565 WOULD HE >> Reporter: YOU HAD A BIG 1484 01:15:32,565 --> 01:15:34,668 DECISION TO MAKE YOU HAD TO DECIDE IF YOU WERE 1485 01:15:34,668 --> 01:15:36,269 GOING TO PROSECUTE BOB NEULANDER AGAIN. 1486 01:15:36,269 --> 01:15:40,073 >> I HAVE TO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. 1487 01:15:40,073 --> 01:15:46,846 YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, "I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN. 1488 01:15:46,846 --> 01:15:48,448 >>> COMING UP -- TRIAL NUMBER TWO 1489 01:15:48,448 --> 01:15:51,718 A NEW DEFENSE TEAM NEW EVIDENCE 1490 01:15:51,718 --> 01:15:53,887 AND RENEWED SUPPORT. >> MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS STANDING 1491 01:15:53,887 --> 01:15:56,890 BEHIND HIM AFTER TEN YEARS DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH 1492 01:15:56,890 --> 01:16:15,675 HIM IF WE THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY? >> WOULD THE VERDICT BE 1493 01:16:15,675 --> 01:16:19,379 >> Reporter: BY THE SUMMER OF 2018, BOB NEULANDER WAS A FREE 1494 01:16:19,379 --> 01:16:22,549 MAN. FOR MARY JUMBELIC, AFTER YEARS 1495 01:16:22,549 --> 01:16:24,117 OF BEING INVOLVED IN THE CASE OF HER FRIEND IT WAS A CRUSHING 1496 01:16:24,117 --> 01:16:29,356 DEVELOPMENT. >> I WAS SHOCKED 1497 01:16:29,356 --> 01:16:33,059 BUT, AGAIN, EVEN WHEN THINGS SEEM COMPLETELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, 1498 01:16:33,059 --> 01:16:48,441 LIFE JUST ISN'T STRAIGHTFORWARD. THINGS HAPPEN. 1499 01:16:48,441 --> 01:16:49,976 >> Reporter: D.A. BILL FITZPATRICK FACED A TOUGH 1500 01:16:49,976 --> 01:16:52,078 DECISION, WHETHER TO TRY HIM FOR MURDER ALL OVER AGAIN. 1501 01:16:52,078 --> 01:16:54,647 >> THERE IS NOTHING MORE EXHAUSTING THAN GOING THROUGH A 1502 01:16:54,647 --> 01:16:56,182 TRIAL UNLESS YOU'RE YOUNG AND HAVE A GREAT DISPOSITION, BUT, 1503 01:16:56,182 --> 01:16:58,351 ME, YOU KNOW, I'M -- I'M IN THE SEVENTH INNING 1504 01:16:58,351 --> 01:17:00,020 >> YOU KNOW, TO THINK ABOUT, "WE HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN," YOU 1505 01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:01,521 KNOW, IT WAS A LOT TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE. 1506 01:17:01,521 --> 01:17:03,123 >> BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA SPEAK FOR 1507 01:17:03,123 --> 01:17:11,031 LESLIE >> JURY SELECTION BEGAN THIS 1508 01:17:11,031 --> 01:17:13,700 MORNING AT ONONDAGA COURT. TEN JURORS HAVE ALREADY BEEN 1509 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:14,734 SEATED >> Reporter: IT WAS MARCH 1510 01:17:14,734 --> 01:17:16,302 2022 WHEN BOB NEULANDER WENT ON TRIAL AGAIN FOR THE MURDER OF 1511 01:17:16,302 --> 01:17:17,904 HIS WIFE >> ANY MESSAGES TO THE COMMUNITY 1512 01:17:17,904 --> 01:17:21,574 TODAY? >> Reporter: BY THAT POINT, THE 1513 01:17:21,574 --> 01:17:23,543 FORMER DOCTOR HAD BEEN OUT ON BAIL FOR THREE YEARS 1514 01:17:23,543 --> 01:17:24,811 HIS WIFE LESLIE HAD BEEN GONE FOR NEARLY A DECADE. 1515 01:17:24,811 --> 01:17:27,380 DID YOU WONDER IF THE FAMILY WAS STILL SUPPORTING HIM 1516 01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:31,084 >> I DID WONDER THAT IT'S A DARK PART OF THIS STORY 1517 01:17:31,084 --> 01:17:35,321 ARI, DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT YOUR FATHER IS INNOCENT AND YOUR 1518 01:17:35,321 --> 01:17:38,058 MOTHER SLIPPED IN THE SHOWER >> Reporter: THE FAMILY WASN'T 1519 01:17:38,058 --> 01:17:41,161 SAYING MUCH, BUT IT WAS CLEAR THAT NOTHING HAD CHANGED 1520 01:17:41,161 --> 01:17:50,070 NEULANDER'S CHILDREN ARRIVED FOR TRIAL NUMBER TWO LIKE THAT HAD 1521 01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:52,172 BEFORE, BY THEIR DAD'S SIDE. D.A. FITZPATRICK WAS AGAIN 1522 01:17:52,172 --> 01:17:54,274 JOINED BY ADA MELINDA McGUNNIGLE AND THERE WAS A FRESH FACE ON 1523 01:17:54,274 --> 01:18:03,783 THE PROSECUTION TEAM >> WELL, I ONLY HAVE ONE 1524 01:18:03,783 --> 01:18:05,385 ASSISTANT D.A. THAT HAS A MASTERS DEGREE IN FORENSICS. 1525 01:18:05,385 --> 01:18:07,520 AND I ONLY HAVE ONE DAUGHTER >> Reporter: FITZPATRICK'S 1526 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,089 DAUGHTER, SARA, WAS NOW AN ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN 1527 01:18:09,089 --> 01:18:11,191 HIS OFFICE WHAT A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE TO 1528 01:18:11,191 --> 01:18:12,759 BRING YOUR DAUGHTER IN ON YOUR TEAM 1529 01:18:12,759 --> 01:18:14,828 >> AND -- AND THE IRONY ISN'T LOST TO ME 1530 01:18:14,828 --> 01:18:21,201 THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEFENDANT AND HIS DAUGHTER, AND 1531 01:18:21,201 --> 01:18:23,336 THEN I'M BRINGING MY DAUGHTER IN TO GET AT -- AT HER AGE, THE 1532 01:18:23,336 --> 01:18:24,938 EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME >> Reporter: WAS THERE SOME 1533 01:18:24,938 --> 01:18:26,806 PRESSURE ON YOU THAT, "I -- I NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT 1534 01:18:26,806 --> 01:18:28,108 I NEED TO IMPRESS MY DAD AND FEEL WORTHY THAT I'M ON THIS 1535 01:18:28,108 --> 01:18:29,576 TEAM"? >> ABSOLUTELY. 1536 01:18:29,576 --> 01:18:32,212 I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST TO IMPRESS MY DAD 1537 01:18:32,212 --> 01:18:33,847 IT'S IMPRESS MY BOSS >> Reporter: BY AND LARGE, THE 1538 01:18:33,847 --> 01:18:35,415 PROSECUTION'S CASE REMAINED THE SAME 1539 01:18:35,415 --> 01:18:37,050 >> SAME THEORY SAME 9-1-1 CALLS 1540 01:18:37,050 --> 01:18:41,254 SAME HOUSEKEEPER SAME PHOTOGRAPHS, WITH ONE 1541 01:18:41,254 --> 01:18:50,230 SIGNIFICANT ADDITION >> Reporter: A BLOOD SPATTER 1542 01:18:50,230 --> 01:18:51,865 EXPERT NEW TO THE CASE MADE AN INTERESTING DISCOVERY WHILE 1543 01:18:51,865 --> 01:18:55,068 EXAMINING PHOTOS OF LESLIE'S HEADBOARD. 1544 01:18:55,068 --> 01:18:58,738 >> AND BELOW THE MATTRESS LINE HE DREW MELINDA'S ATTENTION TO A 1545 01:18:58,738 --> 01:19:00,807 VERY, VERY SMALL, MAYBE FOUR MILLIMETERS PIECE OF WHAT HE 1546 01:19:00,807 --> 01:19:02,809 BELIEVED TO BE SOME TYPE OF TISSUE 1547 01:19:02,809 --> 01:19:05,478 >> AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IT MAY STILL BE THERE 1548 01:19:05,478 --> 01:19:07,647 SO I WENT OUT TO DEWITT PD, PULLED THAT SECTION OF THE 1549 01:19:07,647 --> 01:19:09,282 HEADBOARD. AND LO AND BEHOLD, THERE WAS 1550 01:19:09,282 --> 01:19:13,520 THAT PIECE STILL THERE, ATTACHED TO THE HEADBOARD 1551 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,122 SO THEN WE HAD TO TEST IT. >> Reporter: TURNED OUT TO BE 1552 01:19:16,122 --> 01:19:18,224 FATTY TISSUE WHICH THEY BELIEVE CAME FROM LESLIE'S OPEN HEAD 1553 01:19:18,224 --> 01:19:20,794 WOUND. >> IT TOLD US THAT SHE WAS 1554 01:19:20,794 --> 01:19:22,462 ASSAULTED ON THE BED >> Reporter: SO THIS WAS A -- 1555 01:19:22,462 --> 01:19:24,030 THIS WAS A BIG DEAL FOR THE SECOND TRIAL 1556 01:19:24,030 --> 01:19:26,166 >> THIS WAS HUGE YEAH 1557 01:19:26,166 --> 01:19:35,608 >> TONIGHT, WE ARE GIVING YOU A LOOK AT THE BOMBSHELL PIECE OF 1558 01:19:35,608 --> 01:19:37,277 EVIDENCE THAT WAS THE CORE OF THE PROSEUCTION'S ARGUMENT 1559 01:19:37,277 --> 01:19:39,279 >> Reporter: IN THIS SECOND TRIAL, DA FITZPATRICK TRIED TO 1560 01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:40,847 TELL THE JURY MORE ABOUT A POSSIBLE MOTIVE. 1561 01:19:40,847 --> 01:19:43,750 HE SAID THINGS WERE TENSE IN THE COUPLE WAS SEPARATING, AND THAT 1562 01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:46,753 LESLIE WAS MOVING INTO AN APARTMENT. 1563 01:19:46,753 --> 01:19:48,355 >> THERE -- THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THIS WAS A RAGE-BASED 1564 01:19:48,355 --> 01:19:50,423 HOMICIDE THIS WAS NOT CAREFULLY PLANNED 1565 01:19:50,423 --> 01:19:53,059 AND PREMEDITATED WHATEVER THE ANGER WAS ABOUT HER 1566 01:19:53,059 --> 01:20:03,103 FLIRTING WITH ANOTHER GUY, WITH THE EXPENSE OF SELLING THE 1567 01:20:03,103 --> 01:20:06,039 HOUSE, HER NEW APARTMENT, MOVING, WHATEVER THAT STEW 1568 01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:08,341 ULTIMATELY BECAME, THAT'S RESULTED IN HER DEATH. 1569 01:20:08,341 --> 01:20:09,909 >> Reporter: BOB NEULANDER CAME TO COURT WITH A NEW HIGH POWERED 1570 01:20:09,909 --> 01:20:11,478 DEFENSE TEAM WHAT DID YOU SEE THE DEFENSE DO 1571 01:20:11,478 --> 01:20:13,613 DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME? WHAT WAS THEIR CHANGE IN 1572 01:20:13,613 --> 01:20:16,750 STRATEGY >> I -- I THINK THE FIRST TRIAL, 1573 01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:19,386 BOB NEULANDER COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS BECAUSE HE'S SUCH A 1574 01:20:19,386 --> 01:20:22,589 WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING. AND -- AND THE -- AND THE 1575 01:20:22,589 --> 01:20:25,392 SCIENCE DOESN'T ADD UP THIS TRIAL, BOB NEULANDER IS A 1576 01:20:25,392 --> 01:20:30,463 WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING. BUT THE SCIENCE IS OVERWHELMING 1577 01:20:30,463 --> 01:20:33,099 THAT THIS WAS A SLIP AND FALL. >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE'S OWN 1578 01:20:33,099 --> 01:20:35,735 FORENSIC EXPERT DISPUTED THE PROSECUTION'S NEW FINDING ABOUT 1579 01:20:35,735 --> 01:20:39,472 THE TISSUE ON THE HEADBOARD. THE DEFENSE SAID THAT THERE 1580 01:20:39,472 --> 01:20:41,608 SHOULD'VE BEEN MORE BRAIN TISSUE, BLOOD, AND HAIR IF 1581 01:20:41,608 --> 01:20:44,244 THAT'S REALLY WHERE SHE WAS ATTACKED 1582 01:20:44,244 --> 01:20:45,812 >> THERE COULD'VE BEEN MORE BLOOD. 1583 01:20:45,812 --> 01:20:48,448 THERE COULD'VE BEEN MORE BRAIN MATTER 1584 01:20:48,448 --> 01:20:52,152 AND HE COULD'VE CLEANED IT UP. >> Reporter: AND MOTIVE? 1585 01:20:52,152 --> 01:20:54,254 THE DEFENSE ARGUED THE STATE WAS PULLING AT STRAWS, THERE WAS 1586 01:20:54,254 --> 01:20:58,525 NOTHING THAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED BOB TO FLY INTO SUCH A RAGE AND 1587 01:20:58,525 --> 01:21:01,695 KILL HIS WIFE OF 30 YEARS. THEIR SON, ARI, TOLD THE JURY 1588 01:21:01,695 --> 01:21:04,330 THAT EVEN THOUGH HIS PARENTS WERE SEPARATING, HE NEVER SAW 1589 01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:06,966 THEM IN A PHYSICAL FIGHT NOR FOR THAT MATTER HAD LESLIE'S 1590 01:21:06,966 --> 01:21:09,636 SISTER SHE TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OF HER 1591 01:21:09,636 --> 01:21:13,840 BROTHER-IN-LAW, SAYING SHE KNEW OF NO PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS 1592 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,076 BETWEEN BOB AND LESLIE BUT PERHAPS THE BIGGEST CHANGE 1593 01:21:16,076 --> 01:21:21,281 TO THE DEFENSE'S CASE WAS WHO THEY CHOSE NOT TO CALL 1594 01:21:21,281 --> 01:21:23,850 >> JENNA NEULANDER IS THE QUINTESSENTIAL DEFINITION OF THE 1595 01:21:23,850 --> 01:21:27,487 MISSING WITNESS. SHE HAD INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF 1596 01:21:27,487 --> 01:21:30,657 THE FACTS. SHE WOULD NATURALLY BE EXPECTED 1597 01:21:30,657 --> 01:21:32,726 TO SUPPORT HER FATHER'S POSITION THAT THIS WAS A SLIP AND FALL IN 1598 01:21:32,726 --> 01:21:44,904 THE SHOWER AND SHE'S AVAILABLE. 1599 01:21:44,904 --> 01:21:53,880 >> Reporter: THE D.A'S OFFICE SPOKE WITH JURORS FROM THE FIRST 1600 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,749 TRIAL AND THEY SAID JENNA'S TESTIMONY ACTUALLY HURT 1601 01:21:55,749 --> 01:21:57,550 NEULANDER. >> JENNA'S TESTIMONY WAS SO 1602 01:21:57,550 --> 01:21:59,185 DISASTROUS THAT SHE ULTIMATELY WAS A HUGE PART IN CONVICTING 1603 01:21:59,185 --> 01:22:03,323 HER FATHER >> Reporter: SO WITHOUT HEARING 1604 01:22:03,323 --> 01:22:04,891 FROM JENNA IN TRIAL #2, THE JURY WENT OFF TO DELIBERATE 1605 01:22:04,891 --> 01:22:07,060 HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT JURY DELIBERATIONS TO TAKE ONCE THEY 1606 01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:09,629 BEGIN? >> HA-HA-HA, I HAVE NO IDEA. 1607 01:22:09,629 --> 01:22:12,232 >> Reporter: AND JUST SIX HOURS LATER, EVERYONE WAS CALLED BACK 1608 01:22:12,232 --> 01:22:14,367 INTO THE COURTROOM THERE WAS A VERDICT. 1609 01:22:14,367 --> 01:22:19,105 ROBERT NEULANDER WAS FOUND GUILTY BY A JURY OF 12 MEN AND 1610 01:22:19,105 --> 01:22:20,974 WOMEN FOUND GUILTY OF MURDERING HIS WIFE LESLIE. 1611 01:22:20,974 --> 01:22:22,842 >> WE WERE PROFESSIONALLY VERY, VERY SATISFIED 1612 01:22:22,842 --> 01:22:31,317 AS I SAID MANY TIMES IN THIS CASE, SOMEBODY'S TO SPEAK FOR 1613 01:22:31,317 --> 01:22:33,420 LESLIE >> Reporter: THE D.A. CREDITS 1614 01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:35,088 HIS FORMER COLLEAGUE, AND LESLIE'S FRIEND MARY, WITH 1615 01:22:35,088 --> 01:22:36,956 IGNITING THE CASE. YOUR STORY IS ONE OF THE MOST 1616 01:22:36,956 --> 01:22:38,725 INCREDIBLE STORIES I'VE HEARD. AND WITHOUT YOU DOING WHAT YOU 1617 01:22:38,725 --> 01:22:40,493 DID, THERE MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN JUSTICE FOR LESLIE 1618 01:22:40,493 --> 01:22:42,362 >> MAYBE NOT BUT THAT KIND OF HAS BEEN A LIFE 1619 01:22:42,362 --> 01:22:43,930 GOAL FOR ME TO SPEAK FOR THE DEAD 1620 01:22:43,930 --> 01:22:46,566 AND SO TO SPEAK FOR MY FRIEND WAS AN HONOR 1621 01:22:46,566 --> 01:22:49,302 >> Reporter: AFTER THE VERDICT BOB NEULANDER WAS IMMEDIATELY 1622 01:22:49,302 --> 01:22:52,906 TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AND LATER SENTENCED TO 20 YEARS 1623 01:22:52,906 --> 01:22:54,474 TO LIFE IN PRISON. >> Reporter: MR. BACH, ANY 1624 01:22:54,474 --> 01:22:57,143 COMMENT ON THE GUILTY VERDICT FOR YOUR CLIENT? 1625 01:22:57,143 --> 01:22:59,779 >> OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE DISAPPOINTED AND WE PLAN TO 1626 01:22:59,779 --> 01:23:02,949 APPEAL >> MY FATHER -- MY FATHER IS 1627 01:23:02,949 --> 01:23:06,619 INNOCENT >> Reporter: HIS SON ARI 1628 01:23:06,619 --> 01:23:08,755 IMMEDIATELY CALLED THE VERDICT, "A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE." 1629 01:23:08,755 --> 01:23:11,057 >> I MEAN THE FACT THAT MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS STANDING BEHIND 1630 01:23:11,057 --> 01:23:14,060 HIM AFTER TEN YEARS. DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH 1631 01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:21,968 HIM IF WE THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY? I CAN ASSURE YOU EVERY ONE OF MY 1632 01:23:21,968 --> 01:23:23,603 FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKING THE STAND AGAINST MY 1633 01:23:23,603 --> 01:23:26,172 FATHER IF HE HAD DONE ANYTHING TO MY MOTHER 1634 01:23:26,172 --> 01:23:28,074 IF SHE WERE HERE SHE WOULD BE DISGUSTED WITH HOW THIS 1635 01:23:28,074 --> 01:23:29,876 COMMUNITY HAS TREATED HER FAMILY, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY 1636 01:23:29,876 --> 01:23:32,078 DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY MOTHER NO ONE WHO -- WHO CLAIMS THEY 1637 01:23:32,078 --> 01:23:34,080 ARE SPEAKING FOR MY MOTHER IS ACTUALLY THERE FOR HER 1638 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,648 >> I DONT THINK ARI WANTS TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THIS. 1639 01:23:35,648 --> 01:23:38,251 ARI WAS NOT THERE. I THINK HE CLEARLY LOVES HIS 1640 01:23:38,251 --> 01:23:46,192 FATHER AND WANTS TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A SLIP AND FALL IN THE 1641 01:23:46,192 --> 01:23:48,828 SHOWER AND THAT'S HIS RIGHT 1642 01:23:48,828 --> 01:23:51,464 I BEAR HIM NO ILL WILL >> Reporter: FOR LESLIE'S 1643 01:23:51,464 --> 01:23:53,099 FRIENDS WHO FOUGHT FOR JUSTICE, NOW IS THE TIME TO CHERISH 1644 01:23:53,099 --> 01:23:54,734 MEMORIES OF THE WOMAN THEY ADMIRED AND LOVED SO DEARLY. 1645 01:23:54,734 --> 01:23:57,270 >> I THINK SHE NEEDS PEACE IN HEAVEN 1646 01:23:57,270 --> 01:24:04,611 LESLIE DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE >> MAYBE AT LEAST WITH THIS 1647 01:24:04,611 --> 01:24:12,519 CONVICTION WE CAN THINK ABOUT THE WOMAN SHE WAS, AND HER 1648 01:24:12,519 --> 01:24:15,121 LAUGHTER AND HER BEAUTY, AND HER GENEROSITY, AND -- AND HOLD ON 1649 01:24:15,121 --> 01:24:18,091 TO THAT. >> THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.