1 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:19,986 TONIGHT ON "DATELINE," 2 00:00:19,986 --> 00:00:22,689 SAVANNAH GUTHRIE WITH AN NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE 3 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:25,358 AMBER HEARD SPEAKS OUT IN HER FIRST INTERVIEW SINCE THE TRIAL 4 00:00:25,358 --> 00:00:27,494 WATCHED BY MILLIONS WORLDWIDE. >> I'M NOT A PERFECT VICTIM. 5 00:00:27,494 --> 00:00:31,765 I GET IT I'M NOT A SAINT. 6 00:00:31,765 --> 00:00:35,535 I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO LIKE ME 7 00:00:35,535 --> 00:00:38,705 BUT I ASKED THE JURY TO JUST SEE ME AS HUMAN. 8 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:41,374 >> Reporter: THERE'S NO POLITE WAY TO SAY IT, THE JURY LOOKED 9 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:44,544 AT THE EVIDENCE YOU PRESENTED, THEY LISTENED TO YOUR TESTIMONY, 10 00:00:44,544 --> 00:00:47,213 AND THEY DID NOT BELIEVE YOU >> HOW COULD THEY NOT COME TO 11 00:00:47,213 --> 00:00:52,652 THAT CONCLUSION? THEY HAD HEARD OVER THREE WEEKS 12 00:00:52,652 --> 00:00:58,925 OF NONSTOP RELENTLESS TESTIMONY, I'M A "HYSTERICAL WOMAN," I'M A 13 00:00:58,925 --> 00:01:01,594 "CRAZY WOMAN," I "CAN'T BE TRUSTED. 14 00:01:01,594 --> 00:01:03,730 >> Reporter: THE DEPP TEAM ARGUED THAT YOU WERE THE ABUSER, 15 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:06,933 THAT YOU INSTIGATED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE 16 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:10,670 >> I NEVER HAD TO INSTIGATE IT I RESPONDED TO IT. 17 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:18,411 THIS IS A TRIAL RUN AMOK PLAYED OUT ON TIKTOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA 18 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:21,781 >> Reporter: ARE YOU NERVOUS, AS WE ARE HERE TODAY ABOUT WHAT YOU 19 00:01:21,781 --> 00:01:24,451 CAN SAY NOW? >> OF COURSE 20 00:01:24,451 --> 00:01:34,594 I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF AND THE 21 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:38,298 TRUTH. >> HERE'S TODAY SHOW CO-ANCHOR 22 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:44,671 SAVANNAH GUTHRIE WITH "AMBER HEARD, AFTER THE VERDICT." 23 00:01:44,671 --> 00:01:47,841 >> Reporter: YOU'RE HERE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ASK WHY. 24 00:01:47,841 --> 00:01:53,680 ARE YOU BRAVE? ARE YOU RECKLESS 25 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,417 ARE YOU VINDICTIVE WHY DID YOU WANT TO DO AN 26 00:01:57,417 --> 00:02:00,086 INTERVIEW? >> THE ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU 27 00:02:00,086 --> 00:02:05,925 IS, ONE THING I'M NOT IS VINDICTIVE 28 00:02:05,925 --> 00:02:10,196 THERE'S NO P -- PART OF ME THAT SEES ANY -- THIS WOULD BE A 29 00:02:10,196 --> 00:02:12,699 REALLY LOUSY WAY TO GET VENGEANCE. 30 00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:14,968 >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO GET ACROSS HERE? 31 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:18,738 YOU'VE HAD EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT YOU. 32 00:02:18,738 --> 00:02:24,077 WHAT DO YOU WISH PEOPLE KNEW >> YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH, AS SILLY 33 00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:30,517 AS IT IS TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD, MY GOAL -- 34 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:34,320 THE ONLY THING I COULD HOPE FOR AT THIS POINT, I JUST WANT 35 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,824 PEOPLE TO SEE ME AS A HUMAN BEING. 36 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:41,528 >> Reporter: TONIGHT, WE TALK WITH AMBER HEARD, THE WOMAN AT 37 00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:43,663 THE CENTER OF ONE OF THE MOST SENSATIONAL MEDIA SPECTACLES IN 38 00:02:43,663 --> 00:02:47,400 RECENT MEMORY. >> THIS IS A CASE ABOUT THE 39 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,103 IMPACT OF AMBER HEARD'S WORDS ON JOHNNY DEPP. 40 00:02:50,103 --> 00:02:53,273 >> Reporter: FOR SIX WEEKS, MILLIONS OF VIEWERS AROUND THE 41 00:02:53,273 --> 00:02:56,476 WORLD WERE GLUED TO THEIR SCREENS, HANGING ON EVERY MOMENT 42 00:02:56,476 --> 00:03:00,213 OF THIS COURTROOM SLUGFEST BETWEEN HOLLYWOOD STARS. 43 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:04,484 >> THE NEXT MOVE WAS JUST A BANG, AND SHE CLOCKED ME IN THE 44 00:03:04,484 --> 00:03:10,357 JAW. >> HE JUST HIT ME OVER AND OVER 45 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:13,560 AND OVER AGAIN AND I THOUGHT, "THIS IS HOW I 46 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,865 DIE. >> Reporter: THE TRIAL MADE 47 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:22,602 PUBLIC A VOLATILE MARRIAGE WITH PRIVATE MOMENTS CAUGHT ON TAPE 48 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:26,339 >> I WAS HITTING YOU IT WAS NOT PUNCHING YOU. 49 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:31,111 BABE, YOU'RE NOT PUNCHED >> Reporter: FOR SOME PEOPLE, 50 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:35,382 THEY JUST WERE FRANKLY DISGUSTED BY THE WHOLE THING AND DON'T 51 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:39,085 HAVE MUCH SYMPATHY FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU 52 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:41,721 CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY I CAN UNDERSTAND 53 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:43,857 THAT I WOULD NOT BLAME THE AVERAGE 54 00:03:43,857 --> 00:03:47,093 PERSON FOR LOOKING AT THIS, AND HOW IT'S BEEN COVERED, AND NOT 55 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:49,696 THINK THAT IT IS Y -- HOLLYWOOD BRATS AT THEIR - 56 00:03:49,696 --> 00:03:53,933 AT THEIR WORST BUT WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND 57 00:03:53,933 --> 00:03:58,738 IS IT'S -- IT'S ACTUALLY S -- SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT. 58 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:01,941 THIS IS A -- THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT 59 00:04:01,941 --> 00:04:04,077 TO SPEAK >> Reporter: BUT HERE'S THE 60 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:06,746 THING ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS 61 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:09,449 FREE SPEECH. IT DOESN'T PROTECT LIES THAT 62 00:04:09,449 --> 00:04:11,551 AMOUNT TO DEFAMATION, AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE IN THE CASE. 63 00:04:11,551 --> 00:04:15,055 >> YES, EXACTLY. FREE SPEECH DOES NOT PROTECT YOU 64 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:19,059 IF YOU, YOU KNOW, GO INTO A CROWDED THEATER AND YOU SCREAM, 65 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:21,661 "FIRE! WE GET THE CONCEPT OF FREE 66 00:04:21,661 --> 00:04:24,330 SPEECH FROM THE GREEKS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT 67 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:28,568 THAT MEANS IS NOT JUST THE FREEDOM TO SPEAK 68 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:31,237 IT'S A FREEDOM TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. 69 00:04:31,237 --> 00:04:33,173 >> Reporter: BUT TRUTH IS THE WORD 70 00:04:33,173 --> 00:04:35,275 >> YES >> Reporter: AND THAT WAS THE 71 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,077 ISSUE. >> AND THAT'S ALL I SPOKE. 72 00:04:37,077 --> 00:04:44,484 >> Reporter: SO, HOW DID IT ALL COME TO THIS 73 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:54,160 >> SEE YOU DOWN THE ROAD >> Reporter: AMBER LAURA HEARD 74 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,830 GREW UP OUTSIDE AUSTIN, TEXAS, WITH BIG DREAMS OF HOLLYWOOD 75 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:58,965 STARDOM. AFTER MOVING TO LOS ANGELES AT 76 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:01,601 THE AGE OF 17, SHE BOOKED A STRING OF TV AND MOVIE ROLES 77 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:04,237 IN 2009, SHE GOT A CALL THAT WOULD CHANGE HER LIFE. 78 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:07,173 IT WAS FROM SUPERSTAR, JOHNNY DEPP, WHO WANTED HER TO 79 00:05:07,173 --> 00:05:17,050 CO-STAR WITH HIM IN A FILM CALLED "THE RUM DIARY. 80 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:19,219 >> Reporter: HE WAS 46 SHE WAS HALF HIS AGE, 23 81 00:05:19,219 --> 00:05:21,855 >> HE'S SUCH A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH 82 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:25,091 HE'S EVEN BETTER THAN I COULD'VE IMAGINED HIM TO BE, WHICH IS 83 00:05:25,091 --> 00:05:28,161 SAYING SOMETHING >> Reporter: AFTER SEVERAL YEARS 84 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:31,698 OF DATING, THE COUPLE GOT ENGAGED. 85 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:33,533 IS THAT AN ENGAGEMENT RING DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE ENGAGED? 86 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:41,241 >> WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT? >> Reporter: I THINK YOU LOOK 87 00:05:41,241 --> 00:05:43,276 ENGAGED. CONGRATULATIONS! 88 00:05:43,276 --> 00:05:45,412 >> THANK YOU SHE'S A WONDERFUL GIRL AND VERY 89 00:05:45,412 --> 00:05:48,081 GOOD FOR ME. >> Reporter: BUT THE MARRIAGE 90 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:51,251 DIDN'T LAST LONG IN MAY 2016 AMBER WENT TO COURT 91 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:54,988 ASKING A JUDGE FOR A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST HER HUSBAND 92 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:58,858 ALLEGING DOMESTIC ABUSE. MONTHS LATER, AMBER DROPPED THE 93 00:05:58,858 --> 00:06:01,895 RESTRAINING ORDER AND THEY DIVORCED 94 00:06:01,895 --> 00:06:05,632 AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE DEPP-HEARD SAGA MIGHT END THERE. 95 00:06:05,632 --> 00:06:13,106 IN 2018, SHE LANDED HER BIGGEST ROLE YET IN "AQUAMAN." 96 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:16,076 >> Reporter: THAT SAME YEAR, AS THE METOO MOVEMENT WAS IN FULL 97 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:18,945 SWING, SHE WROTE THIS NOW-INFAMOUS OP-ED FOR THE 98 00:06:18,945 --> 00:06:21,581 WASHINGTON POST. IT INCLUDED A KEY LINE, "I 99 00:06:21,581 --> 00:06:25,852 BECAME A PUBLIC FIGURE REPRESENTING DOMESTIC ABUSE. 100 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:30,657 YOU SAID MANY TIMES YOU JUST WANTED TO GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE 101 00:06:30,657 --> 00:06:34,394 WHEN YOU WROTE THE OP-ED, IT RAISED ALL OF THIS AGAIN 102 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,597 WHY DID YOU DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST GO ON AND PUT 103 00:06:37,597 --> 00:06:40,800 THIS PAST YOU? >> THE -- THE -- BECAUSE THE 104 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,136 OP-ED WASN'T ABOUT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHNNY 105 00:06:43,136 --> 00:06:45,605 >> Reporter: BUT IT ALLUDED TO HIM. 106 00:06:45,605 --> 00:06:48,808 >> IT EST -- >> Reporter: IT WAS 107 00:06:48,808 --> 00:06:53,613 UNMISTAKABLE >> YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OP-ED WAS 108 00:06:53,613 --> 00:06:55,715 ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, ME LOANING MY VOICE TO A BIGGER CULTURAL 109 00:06:55,715 --> 00:06:59,452 CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE HAVING AT THE TIME. 110 00:06:59,452 --> 00:07:02,122 IT WAS ABOUT REFORMS -- LEGISLATIVE REFORMS. 111 00:07:02,122 --> 00:07:04,391 RENEWING THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT. 112 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:06,893 >> Reporter: DID YOU WORRY, "GOSH, I'D LOVE TO BE A PERSON 113 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:21,041 WEIGHING IN ON THESE CULTURAL ISSUES, BUT THAT'S GONNA STIR 114 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:28,181 THIS ALL UP AGAIN. >> YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT'S 115 00:07:28,181 --> 00:07:30,316 GREAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT I WISH WAS CONSIDERED MORE 116 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:32,452 SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. 117 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:34,587 >> Reporter: THIS OP-ED, IT WAS THE HEIGHT OF METOO. 118 00:07:34,587 --> 00:07:36,723 LEGIONS OF POWERFUL MEN BEING CANCELED, LOSING THEIR JOBS. 119 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:38,858 DID YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO JOHNNY DEPP? 120 00:07:38,858 --> 00:07:41,528 >> OF COURSE NOT IT WASN'T ABOUT HIM. 121 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:43,963 >> Reporter: JOHNNY DEPP DISAGREED, AND FILED A 122 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:45,231 $50 MILLION DEFAMATION LAWSUIT AGAINST HER. 123 00:07:45,231 --> 00:07:48,268 >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. 124 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:49,969 >> Reporter: SHE COUNTERSUED ALL OF WHICH LED TO THE RECENT 125 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:54,307 SHOW-DOWN IN COURT I DON'T HAVE TO REMIND YOU THAT 126 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,876 YOU'VE BEEN FOUND LIABLE FOR DEFAMATION AGAINST JOHNNY DEPP 127 00:07:56,876 --> 00:08:00,080 HAVING BEEN FOUND LIABLE, ARE YOU NERVOUS, AS WE ARE HERE 128 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:07,020 TODAY, ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN SAY NOW? 129 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:13,360 >> OF COURSE I TOOK FOR GRANTED WHAT I 130 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,563 ASSUMED WAS MY RIGHT TO SPEAK, NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT I LIVED 131 00:08:16,563 --> 00:08:19,733 THROUGH, BUT WHAT I KNEW >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL LIKE 132 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:23,403 YOU COULD BE SUED AGAIN BY HIM FOR DEFAMATION 133 00:08:23,403 --> 00:08:26,606 >> I'M TERRIFIED WHICH IS WHAT, I GUESS, A 134 00:08:26,606 --> 00:08:30,076 DEFAMATION LAWSUIT IS MEANT TO DO 135 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:35,181 IT'S MEANT TO -- MEANT TO TAKE YOUR VOICE 136 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,751 >>> WHEN WE COME BACK -- INSIDE THE ALLEGATIONS 137 00:08:37,751 --> 00:08:40,420 >> SHE HAS A NEED FOR CONFLICT, SHE HAS A NEED FOR VIOLENCE. 138 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:43,590 >> Reporter: THE DEPP TEAM ARGUED THAT YOU WERE THE ABUSER, 139 00:08:43,590 --> 00:08:46,926 THAT YOU INSTIGATED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE 140 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:52,132 >> I NEVER HAD TO INSTIGATE IT I RESPONDED TO IT. 141 00:08:52,132 --> 00:08:56,369 AS I TESTIFIED TO, IF IT MEANT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BROKEN 142 00:08:56,369 --> 00:09:19,125 NOSE OR -- A SORE CHEEK, I WOULD >>> Reporter: PEOPLE LINED THE 143 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:21,728 STREETS WAITING FOR A GLIMPSE OF THEM. 144 00:09:21,728 --> 00:09:25,031 THESE TWO MOVIE ACTORS THEIR CARS PULLING UP NOT TO A 145 00:09:25,031 --> 00:09:28,868 RED CARPET BUT TO A VIRGINIA COURTHOUSE 146 00:09:28,868 --> 00:09:33,440 WHAT DID YOU SEE OUT THE WINDOW OF THAT CAR? 147 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,243 >> EVERY SINGLE DAY I PASSED CITY BLOCKS LINED WITH PEOPLE 148 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:39,312 HOLDING SIGNS SAYING THINGS THAT I COULDN'T REPEAT ON TELEVISION 149 00:09:39,312 --> 00:09:43,550 AND THEY HAD TO ESTABLISH BARRICADES TO PROTECT ME SO I 150 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:46,586 COULD DRIVE INTO A PROTECTED ENTRANCE OF THE COURTHOUSE 151 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:47,821 EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT'S HOW I WALKED IN THE COURT. 152 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:51,057 >> Reporter: THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE WAITING FOR HER INSIDE 153 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:55,228 PACKING THE COURTROOM AND WATCHING FROM HOME 154 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:59,532 AMBER'S LAWYERS HAD FOUGHT TO KEEP TV CAMERAS OUT BUT LOST 155 00:09:59,532 --> 00:10:03,236 >> I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE A "THING." 156 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:06,206 I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A TRIAL I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A PART OF 157 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:08,041 THE PUBLIC RECORD. BUT WHEN SOMEONE SUES YOU, YOU 158 00:10:08,041 --> 00:10:11,244 DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE >> Reporter: WITH THE BURDEN OF 159 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:13,880 PROOF ON HIM, JOHNNY DEPP MADE HIS CASE FIRST 160 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,549 TO PROVE DEFAMATION, HIS LAWYERS NEEDED TO SHOW THAT AMBER'S 161 00:10:16,549 --> 00:10:19,586 CLAIMS OF ABUSE WERE FALSE AND HAD HURT HIS CAREER. 162 00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:22,389 >> MR. DEPP, HAVE YOU EVER PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED MS. HEARD 163 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:25,058 >> NEVER >> HAVE YOU EVER SEXUALLY 164 00:10:25,058 --> 00:10:31,431 ASSAULTED MS. HEARD? >> NEVER 165 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:34,634 CERTAINLY NOT. >> WHAT HAVE YOU LOST AS A 166 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,770 RESULT OF MS. HEARD MAKING THESE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST YOU? 167 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:40,407 >> NOTHING LESS THAN EVERYTHING. >> Reporter: DEPP SAID THERE WAS 168 00:10:40,407 --> 00:10:43,143 AN ABUSER IN THE COURTROOM -- BUT IT WASN'T HIM. 169 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:47,414 IT WAS AMBER >> SHE HAS A NEED FOR CONFLICT, 170 00:10:47,414 --> 00:10:50,583 SHE HAS A NEED FOR VIOLENCE. IT ERUPTS OUT OF NOWHERE 171 00:10:50,583 --> 00:10:53,787 >> Reporter: DEPP DESCRIBED A PARTICULARLY VIOLENT FIGHT THEY 172 00:10:53,787 --> 00:10:57,123 HAD WHEN HE WAS FILMING IN AUSTRALIA. 173 00:10:57,123 --> 00:11:08,134 HE SAID AMBER THREW A VODKA BOTTLE AT HIM. 174 00:11:08,134 --> 00:11:14,541 SHATTERED -- UH, EVERYWHERE. AND THEN I LOOKED DOWN AND 175 00:11:14,541 --> 00:11:19,879 REALIZED THAT THE -- THE TIP OF MY FINGER HAD BEEN SEVERED 176 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:23,583 >> Reporter: DEPP'S ATTORNEYS SHOWED THE JURY PHOTOS OF 177 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:26,252 INJURIES THEY SAID AMBER HAD INFLICTED ON DEPP AND ASKED 178 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:34,260 MEMBERS OF HIS SECURITY STAFF TO TELL THE JURY WHAT THEY'D SEEN 179 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:37,997 >> I HEARD AND SAW A CLOSED FIST, UM, CONTACT MR. DEPP IN 180 00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:42,769 THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS FACE. >> AND WHOSE FIST WAS THAT 181 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:48,108 >> THAT WAS MS. HEARD'S FIST AMBER HEARD'S FIST 182 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:50,210 >> Reporter: THE DEPP TEAM ARGUED THAT YOU WERE THE ABUSER, 183 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:52,312 THAT YOU INSTIGATED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE 184 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:56,116 DID YOU? >> I NEVER HAD TO INSTIGATE IT 185 00:11:56,116 --> 00:12:05,625 I RESPONDED TO IT. WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN VIOLENCE 186 00:12:05,625 --> 00:12:07,727 AND IT BECOMES NORMAL, AS I TESTIFIED TO, YOU HAVE TO ADAPT. 187 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:11,664 YOU ADOPT STRATEGIES TO COPE WITH IT. 188 00:12:11,664 --> 00:12:16,469 AND IF IT MEANT, AS I TESTIFIED TO, IF IT MEANT THE DIFFERENCE 189 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:18,938 BETWEEN -- YOU KNOW -- A BROKEN NOSE OR -- 190 00:12:18,938 --> 00:12:21,608 A SORE CHEEK, I WOULD DO IT. >> Reporter: WHAT ABOUT THE 191 00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:24,310 WITNESSES WHO SAID THEY HAVE SEEN YOU INSTIGATE PHYSICAL 192 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:26,946 VIOLENCE DID THEY ALL COME IN AND LIE IN 193 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:31,718 COURT? >> I'M, YOU KNOW, LESS 194 00:12:31,718 --> 00:12:34,954 INTERESTED IN SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, RE- LITIGATING IT WITH 195 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:38,658 YOU. I AM NOT HERE TO CALL ANY OF HIS 196 00:12:38,658 --> 00:12:40,860 WITNESSES ANY NAMES. I'M NOT HERE TO DO THAT. 197 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:42,929 I'M -- I'M HERE TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT FROM WHAT IT FELT 198 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:46,132 LIKE FOR ME AS A PERSON WHO SAT THERE. 199 00:12:46,132 --> 00:12:48,802 >> Reporter: THERE WAS ONE MORE VOICE DEPP'S LEGAL TEAM WANTED 200 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:51,971 THE JURY TO HEAR AMBER'S. 201 00:12:51,971 --> 00:12:57,410 THEY HAD AUDIO RECORDINGS OF THE COUPLE TALKING ABOUT HOW AMBER 202 00:12:57,410 --> 00:13:00,480 SOMETIMES GOT PHYSICAL >> DON'T SMACK MY EAR AGAIN. 203 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,683 IT -- [ BLEEP ] RESOUNDS IN MY [ BLEEP ] CRANIUM. 204 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:05,785 WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? >> I LOVE YOU. 205 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:08,455 >> HUH >> I LOVE YOU. 206 00:13:08,455 --> 00:13:11,124 I'M SORRY. >> Reporter: IN ANOTHER 207 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:14,327 RECORDING AMBER WAS LESS APOLOGETIC 208 00:13:14,327 --> 00:13:19,132 >> I'M SORRY I HIT YOU LIKE THIS BUT I DID NOT PUNCH YOU. 209 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,267 I DID NOT [ BLEEP ] DECK YOU I [ BLEEP ] WAS HITTING YOU. 210 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:25,538 >> Reporter: THERE ARE TAPES IN WHICH YOU ACKNOWLEDGE HITTING. 211 00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:29,242 THERE ARE TAPES IN WHICH YOU SAY, "I STARTED THE FIGHT. 212 00:13:29,242 --> 00:13:31,878 >> I KNOW MUCH HAS BEEN MADE OF -- OF THESE AUDIO TAPES 213 00:13:31,878 --> 00:13:35,081 AND AS I TESTIFIED ON THE STAND, WHAT YOU WOULD HEAR IN THOSE 214 00:13:35,081 --> 00:13:37,717 CLIPS ARE NOT EVIDENCE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 215 00:13:37,717 --> 00:13:40,920 IT WAS EVIDENCE OF A NEGOTIATION OF HOW TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH 216 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,657 YOUR ABUSER. >> Reporter: BUT I AM LOOKING AT 217 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,894 A TRANSCRIPT THAT SAYS -- HE SAYS, "YOU START PHYSICAL 218 00:13:47,894 --> 00:13:50,530 FIGHTS." AND YOU SAY, "I DID START A 219 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:53,199 PHYSICAL FIGHT." >> I DID START A PHYSICAL FIGHT. 220 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,869 >> YEAH, YOU DID >> Reporter: BUT YOU'RE TELLING 221 00:13:55,869 --> 00:14:00,106 ME TODAY, "I NEVER STARTED A PHYSICAL FIGHT," AND HERE YOU 222 00:14:00,106 --> 00:14:03,843 ARE ON TAPE SAYING YOU DID >> AS I TESTIFIED ON THE STAND 223 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:06,046 ABOUT THIS, IS THAT WHEN YOUR LIFE IS AT RISK, NOT ONLY WILL 224 00:14:06,046 --> 00:14:08,081 YOU TAKE THE BLAME FOR THINGS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE THE 225 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:10,316 BLAME FOR. BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN AN ABUSIVE 226 00:14:10,316 --> 00:14:12,352 DYNAMIC, PSYCHOLOGICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY, YOU 227 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:16,056 DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SAYING, "HEY, THIS IS BLACK AND WHITE. 228 00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:18,158 'CAUSE IT'S ANYTHING BUT WHEN YOU'RE -- LIVING IN IT 229 00:14:18,158 --> 00:14:19,693 >> Reporter: HE SAYS HE NEVER HIT YOU. 230 00:14:19,693 --> 00:14:24,497 NEVER. IS THAT A LIE? 231 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:27,701 >> YES, IT IS. >> Reporter: HE SAYS HE'S NEVER 232 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:29,869 STRUCK ANY WOMAN HIS LAWYERS ARGUED AT TRIAL NONE 233 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:32,472 OF HIS OTHER PRIOR RELATIONSHIPS, NOT ONE WOMAN HAS 234 00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:34,607 COME FORWARD AND SAID HE PHYSICALLY HIT THEM. 235 00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:37,610 YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE. >> LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WHEN 236 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:43,616 I CAME FORWARD WOULD YOU? 237 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,752 >> COMING UP - >> I FELT SO EMBARRASSED THAT HE 238 00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:49,155 COULD KICK ME TO THE GROUND IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. 239 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:52,125 >> AS YOU SIT HERE TODAY, DO YOU STAND BY YOUR TESTIMONY AND YOUR 240 00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:55,929 ACCUSATIONS AGAINST JOHNNY DEPP ABOUT ABUSE? 241 00:14:55,929 --> 00:15:10,610 >> OF COURSE >>> IT WAS A SHOCKING DAY IN 242 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:13,279 COURT. >> Reporter: THE ATTENTION 243 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:18,051 SEEMED TO GROW DAY BY DAY. >> THE SURPRISES JUST KEEP 244 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:21,788 COMING IN THIS TRIAL >> Reporter: BUT FOR ALL THE 245 00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:24,457 INTENSE CURIOSITY, THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME AMBER HEARD AND 246 00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:27,660 JOHNNY DEPP FACED OFF IN COURT >> THERE WAS ANOTHER TRIAL, 247 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,296 DEALT WITH THE SAME SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES, HANDLED DIFFERENTLY, BY 248 00:15:30,296 --> 00:15:34,567 A JUDGE INSTEAD OF A JURY. >> Reporter: JOHNNY DEPP SUED 249 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:36,736 THE SUN, A BRITISH TABLOID, OVER AN ARTICLE IT PUBLISHED 250 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:39,372 DESCRIBING HIM AS A "WIFE BEATER." 251 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:43,643 THE CASE WENT TO TRIAL TWO YEARS AGO IN THE UK. 252 00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:46,546 THERE WERE NO CAMERAS IN COURT THE JUDGE IN THAT CASE FOUND 253 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:49,916 THAT MOST OF AMBER HEARD'S ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE WERE 254 00:15:49,916 --> 00:15:51,618 "SUBSTANTIALLY TRUE. >> JOHNNY DEPP HAS LOST HIS 255 00:15:51,618 --> 00:15:54,754 LEGAL BATTLE WITH A BRITISH TABLOID. 256 00:15:54,754 --> 00:15:58,992 >> WE PREVAILED, OVERWHELMINGLY. >> Reporter: THE JURY IN THE 257 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,127 U.S. TRIAL WASN'T ALLOWED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT JUDGMENT 258 00:16:01,127 --> 00:16:03,263 AND AMBER SAYS THAT BY THE TIME SHE GOT UP TO TELL HER SIDE OF 259 00:16:03,263 --> 00:16:11,805 THE STORY -- >> I DO. 260 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:15,542 >> Reporter: -- THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION HERE HAD ALREADY 261 00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:17,711 TURNED AGAINST HER >> AFTER THREE AND A HALF WEEKS 262 00:16:17,711 --> 00:16:19,846 I TOOK THE STAND AND SAW THE COURTROOM PACKED FULL OF CAPTAIN 263 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:22,482 JACK SPARROW FANS WHO WERE VOCAL, ENERGIZED, WHO HAD 264 00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:26,386 CAME -- COME FROM ALL ENDS OF THE WORLD. 265 00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,888 >> WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT LONG 266 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:32,092 >> I TOOK TWO BUSES, TWO TRAINS AND I HAD TO WALK A HALF AN 267 00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:37,397 HOUR >> AND THE JURY SAW ALL OF THAT. 268 00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:43,370 >> Reporter: DURING FIVE DAYS ON THE STAND, AMBER TOLD HER 269 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:44,838 VERSION OF THE TOXIC RELATIONSHIP 270 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:48,541 SHE SAID THE PHYSICAL ABUSE BEGAN WHEN THEY WERE FIRST 271 00:16:48,541 --> 00:16:51,745 DATING AND CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THEIR MARRIAGE 272 00:16:51,745 --> 00:16:54,414 >> AND I WAS WALKING OUT OF THE BEDROOM SLAPPED ME ACROSS THE 273 00:16:54,414 --> 00:16:57,083 FACE I TURNED TO LOOK AT HIM. 274 00:16:57,083 --> 00:17:00,220 AND I SAID, "JOHNNY YOU HIT ME YOU JUST HIT ME. 275 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:01,421 I -- I TESTIFIED ON THE STAND I GOT HIT FOR A VERY LONG TIME 276 00:17:01,421 --> 00:17:03,456 BEFORE I KNEW HOW TO EVEN TRY TO DEFEND MYSELF. 277 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:06,393 >> Reporter: AMBER SAID THE ABUSE USUALLY HAPPENED IN 278 00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:09,129 PRIVATE, BUT TOLD THE JURY DEPP ONCE KICKED HER ON A PLANE IN 279 00:17:09,129 --> 00:17:10,397 FRONT OF HIS ENTOURAGE >> I FELT SO EMBARRASSED THAT HE 280 00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:14,668 COULD KICK ME TO THE GROUND IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. 281 00:17:14,668 --> 00:17:17,337 >> Reporter: IN ALL, SHE DESCRIBED AT LEAST 12 TIMES WHEN 282 00:17:17,337 --> 00:17:22,142 DEPP HIT HER >> AND HE'S PUNCHING ME, 283 00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:24,811 PUNCHING ME WITH A CLOSED FIST, PUNCHING ME. 284 00:17:24,811 --> 00:17:29,416 >> Reporter: SHE SAID IT OFTEN HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS DRUNK OR ON 285 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:31,685 DRUGS. RIGHT NOW, AS YOU SIT HERE 286 00:17:31,685 --> 00:17:34,888 TODAY, DO YOU STAND BY YOUR TESTIMONY AND YOUR ACCUSATIONS 287 00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:37,557 AGAINST JOHNNY DEPP ABOUT ABUSE? >> OF COURSE 288 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:41,261 AND I WILL 'TIL MY DYING DAY I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME 289 00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:45,532 I'M HERE AS A SURVIVOR I, TO MY DYING DAY, WILL STAND 290 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:48,735 BY EVERY WORD OF MY TESTIMONY. >> Reporter: TO SUPPORT HER 291 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:53,073 ALLEGATIONS, HER ATTORNEYS SHOWED PHOTOS OF INJURIES THEY 292 00:17:53,073 --> 00:17:56,209 SAID WERE CAUSED BY DEPP ONE ALLEGED BEATING HAPPENED IN 293 00:17:56,209 --> 00:18:02,015 2015, BEFORE AMBER APPEARED ON "THE LATE LATE SHOW WITH 294 00:18:02,015 --> 00:18:04,651 JAMES CORDEN." A MAKE-UP ARTIST SAW AMBER THE 295 00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:08,421 DAY OF THE ALLEGED INCIDENT AND SAID SHE DIDN'T SEE ANY 296 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,523 INJURIES BUT THE NEXT DAY - 297 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:13,727 >> SHE HAD DISCOLORATION HERE UNDER BOTH EYES AND ON THE 298 00:18:13,727 --> 00:18:16,396 BRIDGE -- ON THE BRIDGE OF HER NOSE 299 00:18:16,396 --> 00:18:18,565 AND SHE HAD, WHAT I WOULD CALL, A SPLIT LIP. 300 00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:23,236 >> IF I WITNESSED. >> Reporter: A NURSE TESTIFIED 301 00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:25,472 SHE SAW AMBER'S BLOODY LIP >> AND SHE TOLD YOU THAT THAT 302 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:29,209 WAS THE RESULT OF, UM, THE ALTERCATION WITH MR. DEPP, 303 00:18:29,209 --> 00:18:33,480 RIGHT? >> RIGHT 304 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,116 >> Reporter: AND AMBER'S SISTER TOOK THE STAND AND TOLD THE 305 00:18:36,116 --> 00:18:38,752 STORY OF ONE FIGHT THAT SHE SAID INCLUDED DEPP HITTING HER, 306 00:18:38,752 --> 00:18:42,489 SOMETHING DEPP DENIES. >> HE COMES UP BEHIND ME, 307 00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:44,624 STRIKES ME IN THE BACK, KIND OF, JUST SOMEWHERE OVER HERE, HE 308 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,827 STRIKES ME IN THE BACK I HEAR AMBER SHOUT, "DON'T HIT 309 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:52,732 MY [ BLEEP ] SISTER. SHE SMACKS HIM, LANDS ONE, AND 310 00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:54,768 THEN HE GRABBED AMBER BY THE HAIR WITH ONE HAND AND WAS 311 00:18:54,768 --> 00:18:57,737 WHACKING HER REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE WITH THE OTHER. 312 00:18:57,737 --> 00:19:02,809 >> MR. DEPP, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS 313 00:19:02,809 --> 00:19:06,846 >> Reporter: AMBER'S SIDE ALSO PLAYED ITS OWN SNIPPETS OF 314 00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:10,283 AUDIO. >> GO PUT YOUR [ BLEEP ] 315 00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:15,622 CIGARETTES OUT ON SOMEONE ELSE, YOU [ BLEEP 316 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:18,291 HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS, THAT'S IT 317 00:19:18,291 --> 00:19:24,130 >> SHUT UP, FAT ASS. >> A [ BLEEP ] WEEK PRIOR AFTER 318 00:19:24,130 --> 00:19:25,732 YOU BEAT THE [ BLEEP ] OUT OF ME 319 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:27,867 WHAT HAPPENED? >> Reporter: THEN THERE WAS THIS 320 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:30,036 VIDEO. >> DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO YOU 321 00:19:30,036 --> 00:19:32,672 THIS MORNING I DON'T THINK SO 322 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:35,875 IT'S CRAZY ALL YOU'RE CRAZY 323 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:38,545 YEAH, YOU'RE CRAZY >> HAVE YOU DRUNK THIS WHOLE 324 00:19:38,545 --> 00:19:42,782 THING THIS MORNING >> YOU WOULD AGREE THAT YOU WERE 325 00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:46,553 VIOLENT IN THAT CLIP, CORRECT? >> UM, CLEARLY I WAS HAVING A 326 00:19:46,553 --> 00:19:50,290 BAD TIME YES, I -- I DID ASSAULT, UM, A 327 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:55,595 COUPLE OF CABINETS, BUT I DID NOT TOUCH MS. HEARD. 328 00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:58,798 >> YOU -- YOU POURED YOURSELF A -- A MEGA PINT OF RED WINE, 329 00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:03,803 CORRECT? >> A MEGA PINT 330 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:06,773 >> YEAH. >> I POURED MYSELF A LARGE GLASS 331 00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:09,442 OF WINE. >> Reporter: AND REMEMBER WHAT 332 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:13,179 DEPP SAID ABOUT THAT FIGHT IN AUSTRALIA WHEN HIS FINGER WAS 333 00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:17,417 SEVERED? AMBER DENIED HURTING HIM, AND 334 00:20:17,417 --> 00:20:20,620 SAID ON THAT TRIP SHE WAS THE REAL VICTIM. 335 00:20:20,620 --> 00:20:23,790 >> I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS >> Reporter: AMBER WENT ON TO 336 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:26,459 DESCRIBE A HARROWING INCIDENT OF SEXUAL ABUSE 337 00:20:26,459 --> 00:20:29,629 SHE TESTIFIED THAT DEPP ASSAULTED HER WITH A BOTTLE. 338 00:20:29,629 --> 00:20:35,468 >> BUT I COULD JUST FEEL THIS PRESSURE 339 00:20:35,468 --> 00:20:43,209 I REMEMBER JUST NOT WANTING TO MOVE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF 340 00:20:43,209 --> 00:20:49,349 THE BOTTLE THAT HE HAD INSIDE ME WAS BROKEN 341 00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:54,154 IN THAT COURTROOM, I AM TESTIFYING ABOUT -- ABOUT SEXUAL 342 00:20:54,154 --> 00:20:58,925 ASSAULT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, NEXT TO A JURY, IN FRONT OF A 343 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:02,696 WHOLE PACKED COURTROOM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPRESSING THEIR VOCAL 344 00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:06,366 SUPPORT AND DISDAIN FOR ME >> Reporter: AMBER HAD TOLD HER 345 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:08,501 STORY. >> SITTING HERE TODAY MISS - 346 00:21:08,501 --> 00:21:11,738 >> Reporter: NOW SHE WOULD BE FORCED TO DEFEND IT. 347 00:21:11,738 --> 00:21:16,509 >>> COMING UP -- WHAT THE JURY NEVER SAW. 348 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:20,213 >> THERE'S A BINDER WORTH OF NOTES THAT WERE TAKEN BY MY 349 00:21:20,213 --> 00:21:24,117 DOCTOR HER NOTES REPRESENTED YEARS OF 350 00:21:24,117 --> 00:21:24,484 HER NOTES REPRESENTED YEARS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. 351 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:47,941 TO THE WORLD MULTIPLE TIMES, RIGHT? 352 00:21:47,941 --> 00:21:52,712 >> I HAVEN'T LIED ABOUT ANYTHING I'VE BEEN HERE TO SAY. 353 00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:55,382 >> Reporter: AFTER DESCRIBING THE ABUSE SHE SAYS SHE SUFFERED 354 00:21:55,382 --> 00:21:59,619 AT THE HANDS OF JOHNNY DEPP, AMBER HEARD THEN FACED HIS 355 00:21:59,619 --> 00:22:02,822 ATTORNEY CAMILLE VASQUEZ >> MISS HEARD? 356 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,058 MISS HEARD >> Reporter: VASQUEZ SET OUT TO 357 00:22:05,058 --> 00:22:06,593 CONVINCE JURORS THEY COULDN'T TRUST A WORD THAT CAME OUT OF 358 00:22:06,593 --> 00:22:09,429 AMBER'S MOUTH. >> YOU GOT PHYSICAL WITH 359 00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:10,463 MR. DEPP OFTEN DURING YOUR RELATIONSHIP, DIDN'T YOU 360 00:22:10,463 --> 00:22:12,432 >> I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF AS BEST I COULD 361 00:22:12,432 --> 00:22:16,136 >> YOU JUST COULDN'T CONTROL YOURSELF, COULD YOU MISS HEARD 362 00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:18,805 WHO WAS THE REAL MONSTER IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, MS. HEARD? 363 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:22,542 >> Reporter: DEPP'S TEAM ARGUED THAT AMBER HAD A HISTORY OF 364 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:26,312 BEING UNTRUTHFUL >> $7 MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL 365 00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:28,448 WAS DONATED TO, I SPLIT IT BETWEEN THE ACLU AND CHILDREN'S 366 00:22:28,448 --> 00:22:30,550 HOSPITAL OF LOS ANGELES. >> Reporter: THEY PLAYED A CLIP 367 00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:32,619 FROM AN INTERVIEW ON DUTCH TV WHERE SHE SAID SHE HAD DONATED 368 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:35,822 HER $7 MILLION DOLLAR DIVORCE SETTLEMENT TO CHARITY. 369 00:22:35,822 --> 00:22:37,691 BUT -- >> Reporter: IT WAS REVEALED AT 370 00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:40,593 TRIAL THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO YET. 371 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:43,263 DO YOU THINK THAT RAISED QUESTIONS AS TO YOUR CREDIBILITY 372 00:22:43,263 --> 00:22:47,534 WITH THE JURY? >> WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW -- 373 00:22:47,534 --> 00:22:51,271 LOOK, WHEN YOU SAY TO SOMEONE, "I BOUGHT A HOUSE," ARE YOU 374 00:22:51,271 --> 00:22:57,644 LYING BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PAID FOR IT IN FULL AT THAT POINT 375 00:22:57,644 --> 00:23:00,313 I MADE -- A PLEDGE AND THAT PLEDGE IS MADE OVER TIME BY ITS 376 00:23:00,313 --> 00:23:02,449 NATURE >> Reporter: YOU'RE SPLITTING 377 00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:05,652 HAIRS A LITTLE BIT THERE BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY, "I 378 00:23:05,652 --> 00:23:08,288 DONATED," YOU KNOW THAT EVERYBODY THINKS THAT YOU'VE 379 00:23:08,288 --> 00:23:13,093 DONATED IT, NOT THAT YOU'VE PLEDGED IT 380 00:23:13,093 --> 00:23:16,830 SO FOR THE JURORS SITTING THERE, DO YOU THINK THEY FELT LIKE THAT 381 00:23:16,830 --> 00:23:26,439 WAS YOU GETTING CAUGHT IN A LIE? >> I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE SO MUCH 382 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:30,643 OF THE -- I FEEL LIKE SO MUCH OF THE TRIAL WAS MEANT TO CAST 383 00:23:30,643 --> 00:23:34,414 ASPERSIONS ON WHO I AM AS A HUMAN, MY CREDIBILITY, TO CALL 384 00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:39,152 ME A LIAR IN -- IN EVERY WAY YOU CAN. 385 00:23:39,152 --> 00:23:41,755 >> Reporter: THAT WAS THE TRIAL. IT WAS A CREDIBILITY CONTEST 386 00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:43,890 DEPP'S TEAM ALSO PAINTED AMBER AS AN ATTENTION SEEKER 387 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:48,661 SAYING SHE WROTE THAT 2018 OP-ED TO COINCIDE WITH THE RELEASE OF 388 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:53,466 "AQUAMAN." THEY SUGGESTED THIS WAS A 389 00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:57,237 PUBLICITY STUNT, A WAY TO RAISE YOUR PROFILE AT A TIME WHEN 390 00:23:57,237 --> 00:24:01,441 THESE ISSUES WERE QUITE RELEVANT 391 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:05,178 >> IT WAS ONE OF THOSE FEW MOMENTS OF -- LEVITY IN THE 392 00:24:05,178 --> 00:24:08,848 TRIAL WHEN I HEARD IT SUGGESTED THAT MY OP-ED IN "THE WASHINGTON 393 00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:14,721 POST" COULD -- POTENTIALLY BOOST SALES FOR AN INTERNATIONAL 394 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,856 MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR SUPERHERO FRANCHISE MOVIE THAT I WAS 395 00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:19,559 STARRING IN. IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 396 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,462 YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, WE WERE TRYING TO GET MORE AWARENESS AND 397 00:24:22,462 --> 00:24:23,363 ATTENTION ON THE ISSUES WITHIN THE ARTICLE. 398 00:24:23,363 --> 00:24:25,398 >> Reporter: IT WASN'T A PUBLICITY STUNT OR A WAY TO -- 399 00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:27,534 >> IT'S THE OPPOSITE YOU KNOW 400 00:24:27,534 --> 00:24:31,237 >> Reporter: DEPP'S LAWYERS CALLED WITNESSES TO CHALLENGE 401 00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:35,542 AMBER'S STORIES OF ABUSE ONE OF DEPP'S FRIENDS TESTIFIED 402 00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:40,747 ABOUT THAT FIGHT ON A PLANE WHEN AMBER SAYS HE KICKED HER 403 00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:46,152 >> AND -- AND IT'S YOUR TESTIMONY THAT MR. DEPP DIDN'T 404 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,755 KICK AMBER >> I --I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 405 00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:51,424 LIKE THAT. >> Reporter: AND TO COUNTER THE 406 00:24:51,424 --> 00:24:55,462 PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF AMBERS INJURIES, DEPP'S LAWYERS SHOWED 407 00:24:55,462 --> 00:24:57,797 THE JURY A SLEW OF PICTURES OF THE ACTRESS LOOKING UNBLEMISHED 408 00:24:57,797 --> 00:25:00,033 AFTER THE ALLEGED ABUSE. >> YOUR NOSE DOESN'T APPEAR TO 409 00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:02,068 BE INJURED IN ANY OF THESE PICTURES 410 00:25:02,068 --> 00:25:04,738 DOES IT MISS HEARD >> IT'S WHY I'M WEARING MAKEUP 411 00:25:04,738 --> 00:25:08,541 >> Reporter: AMBER TESTIFIED THAT SOME OF THE PHOTOS DEPP'S 412 00:25:08,541 --> 00:25:16,483 LAWYERS BROUGHT TO COURT WERE TAKEN DAYS, EVEN WEEKS AFTER THE 413 00:25:16,483 --> 00:25:19,686 ALLEGED INJURIES OCCURRED. >> WHAT I LEARNED IN THAT TRIAL 414 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,355 IS IT'S -- IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH 415 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:27,694 IF YOU HAVE PROOF THEN IT WAS A SCHEME, IT WAS A HOAX. 416 00:25:27,694 --> 00:25:29,829 IF YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 417 00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,632 IF YOU HAVE A BRUISE, IT'S FAKE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BRUISE THEN 418 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:36,202 IT DID -- VIOLENCE CLEARLY DIDN'T HURT YOU. 419 00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:41,708 IF YOU TOLD PEOPLE, THEN YOU'RE HYSTERICAL 420 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:45,245 IF YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYONE, DIDN'T HAPPEN. 421 00:25:45,245 --> 00:25:47,881 >> Reporter: WHEN IT CAME TO AMBER'S MOST EXPLOSIVE 422 00:25:47,881 --> 00:25:51,117 TESTIMONY -- THE SEXUAL ASSAULT -- DEPP'S TEAM POINTED 423 00:25:51,117 --> 00:25:54,320 OUT THE ALLEGATIONS ONLY CAME UP AFTER HER DIVORCE. 424 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,524 IN COURT, ATTORNEY CAMILLE VASQUEZ PULLED NO 425 00:25:57,524 --> 00:26:01,161 PUNCHES. >> YOU TESTIFIED YOU BLED FROM 426 00:26:01,161 --> 00:26:05,031 YOUR VAGINA AS A RESULT OF THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT 427 00:26:05,031 --> 00:26:07,167 >> YES >> THERE AREN'T ANY MEDICAL 428 00:26:07,167 --> 00:26:15,208 RECORDS REFLECTING THAT YOU SOUGHT MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR ANY 429 00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:17,310 OF THESE INJURIES ARE THERE? >> I DID NOT SEEK MEDICAL 430 00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,412 TREATMENT AFTER AUSTRALIA. NO 431 00:26:19,412 --> 00:26:22,082 >> NOT FOR THE RAPE? >> NO, I DID NOT WANT TO TELL 432 00:26:22,082 --> 00:26:24,217 ANYONE >> Reporter: THERE'S NO 433 00:26:24,217 --> 00:26:26,386 EXPERIENCE LIKE BEING CROSS-EXAMINED 434 00:26:26,386 --> 00:26:35,562 WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE FOR YOU? 435 00:26:35,562 --> 00:26:44,971 >> I KNOW THE SCARIEST, MOST INTIMIDATING THING FOR ANYBODY 436 00:26:44,971 --> 00:26:52,445 TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS NOT BEING BELIEVED, BEING CALLED 437 00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:56,783 A LIAR, OR BEING HUMILIATED. >> Reporter: THROUGHOUT THE 438 00:26:56,783 --> 00:27:01,521 TRIAL, BOTH SIDES FOUGHT TO GET ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF 439 00:27:01,521 --> 00:27:03,656 THE JURY TO BOLSTER THEIR CLAIMS 440 00:27:03,656 --> 00:27:06,026 SOME OF IT WAS DEEMED HEARSAY UNDER THE RULES OF EVIDENCE AND 441 00:27:06,026 --> 00:27:07,327 DECLARED INADMISSIBLE BY THE JUDGE. 442 00:27:07,327 --> 00:27:09,462 IS THERE ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU WISH THE JURY HAD SEEN 443 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:12,665 THAT YOU COULD POINT TO? YOU SAY, "THIS WOULDA MADE THE 444 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:18,038 DIFFERENCE." >> YEAH. 445 00:27:18,038 --> 00:27:20,640 >> Reporter: WHAT IS IT? >> THERE'S -- A BINDER WORTH OF 446 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,776 YEARS OF NOTES DATING BACK TO 2011 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING 447 00:27:22,776 --> 00:27:25,045 OF MY RELATIONSHIP THAT WERE TAKEN BY MY DOCTOR, WHO I WAS 448 00:27:25,045 --> 00:27:28,081 REPORTING THE ABUSE TO >> Reporter: THAT DOCTOR WAS 449 00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:30,717 AMBER'S THERAPIST AT THE TIME. WE LOOKED AT NOTES THE DOCTOR 450 00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:34,454 TOOK DURING SOME OF THEIR SESSIONS WHICH SHOW THAT AS FAR 451 00:27:34,454 --> 00:27:38,224 BACK AS 2012 AMBER WAS TALKING ABOUT PHYSICAL ABUSE 452 00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:41,394 IN JANUARY OF THAT YEAR, SHE TOLD HER THERAPIST DEPP "HIT 453 00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:44,564 HER, THREW HER ON FLOOR. EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THAT, "RIPPED 454 00:27:44,564 --> 00:27:47,233 HER NIGHTGOWN, THREW HER ON BED" AND IN 2013 THE THERAPIST'S 455 00:27:47,233 --> 00:27:54,674 NOTES SAY, "HE THREW HER AGAINST A WALL AND THREATENED TO KILL 456 00:27:54,674 --> 00:27:58,378 HER. >> I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S 457 00:27:58,378 --> 00:28:02,649 HAPPENING TO ME IN REAL TIME WHEN SHE WAS TAKING 458 00:28:02,649 --> 00:28:06,019 CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 459 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:07,687 >> Reporter: AMBER'S LAWYERS ALSO SHOWED US TEXT MESSAGES 460 00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:10,090 THAT WERE EXCLUDED FROM TRIAL. LIKE THIS ONE SHE SENT TO 461 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:12,726 ANOTHER THERAPIST SAYING "JOHNNY DID A NUMBER ON ME 462 00:28:12,726 --> 00:28:14,828 I THOUGHT I HAD A CONCUSSION." AND THIS TEXT MESSAGE SHE SAYS 463 00:28:14,828 --> 00:28:17,030 SHE SENT TO HER FATHER AFTER THAT DISPUTED INCIDENT ON THE 464 00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:20,133 PLANE. SHE WROTE, HE "KICKED ME, IN 465 00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:22,769 FRONT OF EVERYONE. >> I TESTIFIED I WAS ATTACKED ON 466 00:28:22,769 --> 00:28:28,074 THAT FLIGHT AND I WAS ATTACKED IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND I -- WHEN 467 00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:30,744 I GOT OFF THE PLANE SENT MESSAGES TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT 468 00:28:30,744 --> 00:28:34,447 HAD HAPPENED "I'M ANGRY BECAUSE THIS 469 00:28:34,447 --> 00:28:36,583 HAPPENED CAN YOU BELIEVE HE DID THIS AND 470 00:28:36,583 --> 00:28:39,252 THIS AND THIS," YOU KNOW AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE I REACHED 471 00:28:39,252 --> 00:28:42,455 OUT TO WAS MY FATHER >> Reporter: DEPP'S LAWYERS SAY 472 00:28:42,455 --> 00:28:46,192 THE JUDGE'S RULINGS WERE FAIR AND A DEPP SPOKESPERSON TOLD US 473 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:50,397 IT'S "UNFORTUNATE THAT THE DEFENDANT AND HER TEAM ARE BACK 474 00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:54,134 TO REPEATING, REIMAGINING AND RELITIGATING MATTERS THAT HAVE 475 00:28:54,134 --> 00:28:57,871 ALREADY BEEN DECIDED BY THE COURT. 476 00:28:57,871 --> 00:29:05,345 AMBER THINKS THE CASE WASN'T JUST DECIDED INSIDE THE 477 00:29:05,345 --> 00:29:07,480 COURTROOM. SHE BELIEVES WHAT HAPPENED 478 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,218 OUTSIDE MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE. >> COMING UP - 479 00:29:12,218 --> 00:29:14,020 >> A MAJORITY OF THIS TRIAL WAS PLAYED OUT OUTSIDE OF A 480 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,422 COURTROOM. >> THE SOCIAL MEDIA STORM. 481 00:29:15,422 --> 00:29:34,708 DID IT AFFECT TH >> Reporter: THERE'S A TEXT 482 00:29:34,708 --> 00:29:36,276 MESSAGE WHERE JOHNNY PROMISES TOTAL GLOBAL HUMILIATION FOR 483 00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:41,047 YOU. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT CAME TRUE? 484 00:29:41,047 --> 00:29:47,420 >> I KNOW HE PROMISED IT I TESTIFIED TO THIS. 485 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:49,055 I'M NOT A GOOD VICTIM. I GET IT 486 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:51,124 I'M NOT A LIKEABLE VICTIM. I'M NOT A PERFECT VICTIM 487 00:29:51,124 --> 00:29:55,428 I GET IT I'M NOT A SAINT. 488 00:29:55,428 --> 00:30:00,734 I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO LIKE ME 489 00:30:00,734 --> 00:30:03,970 BUT WHEN I TESTIFIED, I ASKED THE JURY TO JUST SEE ME AS HUMAN 490 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:06,606 AND HEAR HIS OWN WORDS, WHICH IS A PROMISE TO DO THIS, A PROMISE 491 00:30:06,606 --> 00:30:14,047 TO HUMILIATE ME, A PROMISE TO RUIN ME. 492 00:30:14,047 --> 00:30:17,250 IT FEELS AS THOUGH HE HAS. >> Reporter: AS THE TRIAL 493 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:22,589 UNFOLDED INSIDE THAT VIRGINIA COURTROOM, AMBER HEARD AND 494 00:30:22,589 --> 00:30:25,725 JOHNNY DEPP WERE BEING JUDGED IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. 495 00:30:25,725 --> 00:30:28,928 >> THIS JOHNNY DEPP-AMBER HEARD THING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A 496 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:32,632 LITTLE BIT NOW, AND IT'S GOTTEN PRETTY WILD. 497 00:30:32,632 --> 00:30:34,734 >> Reporter: THOUGH BOTH STARS HAD THEIR SUPPORTERS ON SOCIAL 498 00:30:34,734 --> 00:30:38,471 MEDIA, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE INTERNET SIDED AGAINST 499 00:30:38,471 --> 00:30:41,675 AMBER HEARD. >> EW. 500 00:30:41,675 --> 00:30:44,878 THIS IS SO CRINGE. GUILTY 501 00:30:44,878 --> 00:30:47,781 >> I MEAN, THIS WAS A SORT OF MEDIEVAL ORGY OF HATRED. 502 00:30:47,781 --> 00:30:49,683 >> Reporter: MICHELLE GOLDBERG IS AN OPINION COLUMNIST FOR THE 503 00:30:49,683 --> 00:30:51,785 NEW YORK TIMES >> I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, 504 00:30:51,785 --> 00:30:58,692 PEOPLE REALLY ENJOYED JOINING IN 505 00:30:58,692 --> 00:31:03,463 THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OFTEN THE CASE WITH MOB BEHAVIOR. 506 00:31:03,463 --> 00:31:09,336 I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS WAS 507 00:31:09,336 --> 00:31:13,606 IT WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MISOGYNIST MOB BEHAVIOR. 508 00:31:13,606 --> 00:31:16,242 >> Reporter: ONLINE, PEOPLE PICKED APART AMBER'S EVERY MOVE. 509 00:31:16,242 --> 00:31:18,912 VIDEOS RIDICULED HER FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND ACCUSED HER OF 510 00:31:18,912 --> 00:31:21,581 FAKING EMOTION ON THE STAND. >> THIS -- THIS IS JUST A FAKE 511 00:31:21,581 --> 00:31:24,217 CRYING TRAIN WRECK YOU CAN'T LOOK AWAY FROM 512 00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:26,920 >> JOHNNY, YOU HIT ME. YOU HIT ME 513 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,589 >> IT WAS REALLY STRIKING TO ME TO SEE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE 514 00:31:29,589 --> 00:31:32,726 ENGAGING IN THIS TREND OF REENACTING HER TESTIMONY 515 00:31:32,726 --> 00:31:35,395 >> "I WAS WALKING ACROSS THE BEDROOM, SLAPPED ME ACROSS THE 516 00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:38,631 FACE." >> I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN 517 00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:42,335 ANYTHING LIKE THIS, A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRIAL BECOMING THIS 518 00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:45,505 SOURCE OF NATIONAL HILARITY. >> Reporter: ONE OF THE MOST 519 00:31:45,505 --> 00:31:47,640 INFAMOUS MOMENTS IN THE TRIAL WAS WHEN JOHNNY DEPP SUGGESTED 520 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,411 SHE MAY HAVE DEFECATED ON THEIR BED. 521 00:31:51,411 --> 00:31:57,784 >> AND ON MY SIDE OF THE BED WAS HUMAN FECAL MATTER 522 00:31:57,784 --> 00:32:01,054 >> Reporter: AMBER DENIED IT, BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP THE 523 00:32:01,054 --> 00:32:05,792 INTERNET FROM BRANDING HER WITH A VIRAL NICKNAME 524 00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:08,461 >> I SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ME IN REAL TIME. 525 00:32:08,461 --> 00:32:13,767 I DON'T CARE WHAT ONE THINKS ABOUT ME OR WHAT JUDGMENTS YOU 526 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:18,571 WANNA MAKE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PRIVACY OF MY OWN HOME, 527 00:32:18,571 --> 00:32:23,410 IN MY MARRIAGE, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. 528 00:32:23,410 --> 00:32:27,614 I DON'T PRESUME THE AVERAGE PERSON SHOULD KNOW THOSE THINGS. 529 00:32:27,614 --> 00:32:32,085 AND SO I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY 530 00:32:32,085 --> 00:32:35,588 BUT EVEN SOMEBODY WHO IS SURE I'M DESERVING OF ALL THIS HATE 531 00:32:35,588 --> 00:32:39,325 AND VITRIOL, EVEN IF YOU THINK THAT I'M LYING, YOU STILL 532 00:32:39,325 --> 00:32:41,961 COULDN'T TELL ME -- LOOK ME IN THE EYE AND TELL ME THAT YOU 533 00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:44,330 THINK ON SOCIAL MEDIA THERE'S BEEN A FAIR REPRESENTATION 534 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:46,199 YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT YOU THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN FAIR. 535 00:32:46,199 --> 00:32:50,470 >> Reporter: IF AMBER WAS THE VILLAIN, THEN JOHNNY DEPP WAS 536 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:55,275 OFTEN PORTRAYED AS THE HERO. >> THIS DUDE'S SUCH A STUD 537 00:32:55,275 --> 00:32:59,813 >> Reporter: PEOPLE ONLINE FOUND HIS GRASP OF THE LAW CHARMING. 538 00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:04,284 >> THAT'S HEARSAY, I GUESS I'M LEARNING 539 00:33:04,284 --> 00:33:07,454 >> Reporter: AND TESTIMONY ABOUT HIS DRINKING ONLY SEEMED TO 540 00:33:07,454 --> 00:33:10,090 ENDEAR HIM MORE TO HIS DIGITAL FANS 541 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:14,894 >> YOU POURED YOURSELF A -- UM -- A MEGAPINT OF RED WINE, 542 00:33:14,894 --> 00:33:19,132 CORRECT? >> A MEGAPINT? 543 00:33:19,132 --> 00:33:22,335 >> Reporter: DURING THE SIX WEEK TRIAL, JURORS WEREN'T 544 00:33:22,335 --> 00:33:25,538 SEQUESTERED. THEY SPENT NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS 545 00:33:25,538 --> 00:33:29,209 AT HOME WITH THEIR PHONES. >> I THINK A MAJORITY OF THIS 546 00:33:29,209 --> 00:33:33,513 TRIAL WAS PLAYED OUT OUTSIDE OF A COURTROOM, UNFORTUNATELY 547 00:33:33,513 --> 00:33:38,318 I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS TRIAL WAS PLAYED OUT ON 548 00:33:38,318 --> 00:33:42,222 SOCIAL MEDIA AND I THINK THAT THIS TRIAL IS 549 00:33:42,222 --> 00:33:46,292 AN EXAMPLE OF THAT GONE HAYWIRE, GONE AMOK. 550 00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:49,462 AND THE JURY'S NOT IMMUNE TO THAT 551 00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:51,865 >> Reporter: YOU THINK THE JURY SAW IT 552 00:33:51,865 --> 00:33:54,267 >> HOW COULD THEY NOT? I THINK EVEN THE MOST 553 00:33:54,267 --> 00:33:59,572 WELL-INTENTIONED JUROR, IT WOULD OF BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID 554 00:33:59,572 --> 00:34:05,412 THIS >> Reporter: DEPP'S ATTORNEYS 555 00:34:05,412 --> 00:34:09,149 REJECT THE NOTION THAT SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCED THE JURY IN ANY 556 00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:15,155 WAY. THEY SAY THEY BELIEVE JURORS 557 00:34:15,155 --> 00:34:20,393 FOLLOWED THE JUDGE'S INSTRUCTIONS TO NOT READ ABOUT 558 00:34:20,393 --> 00:34:24,097 THE CASE THEY SAID SOCIAL MEDIA WANSN'T 559 00:34:24,097 --> 00:34:26,266 THE PROBLEM, AMBER WAS >> Reporter: THE DEPP LAWYER 560 00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:28,935 SAID -- CALLED YOUR TESTIMONY THE PERFORMANCE OF A LIFETIME 561 00:34:28,935 --> 00:34:33,840 AND SAID YOU WERE ACTING WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? 562 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,911 >> SAYS THE LAWYER FOR THE MAN WHO CONVINCED THE WORLD HE HAD 563 00:34:37,911 --> 00:34:41,614 SCISSORS FOR FINGERS I'M THE PERFORMER? 564 00:34:41,614 --> 00:34:44,651 I HAD LISTENED TO WEEKS OF TESTIMONY INSINUATING THAT, OR 565 00:34:44,651 --> 00:34:45,885 SAYING QUITE L -- DIRECTLY THAT Y -- YOU KNOW, I'M A TERRIBLE 566 00:34:45,885 --> 00:34:47,987 ACTRESS. SO -- I'M -- I'M A BIT CONFUSED 567 00:34:47,987 --> 00:34:49,689 HOW I COULD BE BOTH. >>> COMING UP -- 568 00:34:49,689 --> 00:34:52,258 THE VERDICT. WHAT MIGHT THE IMPACT BE 569 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:54,361 >> I WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THE VERY, VERY REAL FEARS OTHERS MAY 570 00:34:54,361 --> 00:34:58,565 HAVE ABOUT COMING FORWARD. >> AND WHAT MAY SURPRISE YOU 571 00:34:58,565 --> 00:35:01,234 >> Reporter: YOU ISSUED A STATEMENT, "I STILL HAVE LOVE 572 00:35:01,234 --> 00:35:19,853 FOR JOHNNY." IS THAT STIL 573 00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:21,454 >> Reporter: AFTER SIX WEEKS OF JOHNNY DEPP AND AMBER HEARD 574 00:35:21,454 --> 00:35:24,624 SLUGGING IT OUT IN COURT, THE CASE WENT TO THE JURY. 575 00:35:24,624 --> 00:35:33,233 IT'S THE DAY OF THE VERDICT, YOU COME INTO THE COURTROOM. 576 00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:40,607 WERE YOU FEELING CONFIDENT >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION 577 00:35:40,607 --> 00:35:48,081 I WISH I COULD SAY YES TO THAT I WANNA SAY YES TO YOU 578 00:35:48,081 --> 00:35:51,785 BUT IT WOULD -- IT WOULDN'T BE TRUE 579 00:35:51,785 --> 00:35:57,090 >> THE STATEMENT HAS A DEFAMATORY IMPLICATION ABOUT 580 00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:58,725 MR. DEPP >> YES 581 00:35:58,725 --> 00:36:00,860 >> THE COURT IS ADJOURNED. >> Reporter: IN THE END, THE 582 00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:03,496 JURY BELIEVED JOHNNY DEPP, AWARDING HIM MORE THAN 583 00:36:03,496 --> 00:36:07,734 $10 MILLION IN DAMAGES AMBER WON A SINGLE DEFAMATION 584 00:36:07,734 --> 00:36:10,503 CLAIM IN HER COUNTERSUIT AND WAS AWARDED $2 MILLION 585 00:36:10,503 --> 00:36:14,074 >> Reporter: THERE'S NO POLITE WAY TO SAY IT. 586 00:36:14,074 --> 00:36:17,277 THE JURY LOOKED AT THE EVIDENCE YOU PRESENTED, THEY LISTENED TO 587 00:36:17,277 --> 00:36:23,149 YOUR TESTIMONY, AND THEY DID NOT BELIEVE YOU, THEY THOUGHT YOU 588 00:36:23,149 --> 00:36:30,090 WERE LYING >> HOW COULD -- I'LL PUT IT THIS 589 00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:35,895 WAY, HOW COULD THEY MAKE A JUDGMENT 590 00:36:35,895 --> 00:36:42,268 HOW COULD THEY NOT COME TO THAT CONCLUSION 591 00:36:42,268 --> 00:36:49,275 THEY HAD SAT IN THAT -- IN THOSE SEATS, AND HEARD THR -- OVER 592 00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:52,946 THREE WEEKS OF NONSTOP, RELENTLESS TESTIMONY FROM PAID 593 00:36:52,946 --> 00:36:57,751 EMPLOYEES, AND, TOWARDS THE END OF THE TRIAL, RANDOS, AS I SAY 594 00:36:57,751 --> 00:37:03,056 >> Reporter: SO YOU DON'T BLAME THE JURY 595 00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:08,361 >> I DON'T BLAME THEM. IT WASN'T -- I -- I DON'T BLAME 596 00:37:08,361 --> 00:37:14,234 THEM I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HE'S A 597 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:17,937 BELOVED CHARACTER AND PEOPLE FEEL THEY KNOW HIM 598 00:37:17,937 --> 00:37:20,373 HE'S A FANTASTIC ACTOR >> Reporter: THEIR JOB IS TO NOT 599 00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:22,709 BE DAZZLED BY THAT >> AGAIN, HOW -- HOW COULD THEY, 600 00:37:22,709 --> 00:37:27,580 AFTER LISTENING TO THREE AND A HALF WEEKS OF TESTIMONY ABOUT 601 00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:29,115 HOW I WAS A NON-CREDIBLE PERSON? NOT TO BELIEVE A WORD THAT CAME 602 00:37:29,115 --> 00:37:32,285 OUT OF MY MOUTH? I'M A HYSTERICAL WOMAN, I'M A 603 00:37:32,285 --> 00:37:37,223 CRAZY WOMAN, I CAN'T BE TRUSTED, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 604 00:37:37,223 --> 00:37:40,860 >> Reporter: JOHNNY DEPP WAS QUICK TO CELEBRATE HIS VICTORY 605 00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:45,065 IN A STATEMENT THAT READ, IN PART, "FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, 606 00:37:45,065 --> 00:37:47,734 THE GOAL OF BRINGING THIS CASE WAS TO REVEAL THE TRUTH, 607 00:37:47,734 --> 00:37:50,603 REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME. ADDING, "THE JURY GAVE ME MY 608 00:37:50,603 --> 00:37:51,905 LIFE BACK. I AM TRULY HUMBLED." 609 00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:54,074 WHEN I ASKED HIS LAWYERS, "WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WON?" 610 00:37:54,074 --> 00:37:56,276 THE ANSWER I GOT WAS, "BECAUSE SHE NEVER TOOK RESPONSIBILITY 611 00:37:56,276 --> 00:37:58,311 FOR ANYTHING SHE DID IN THE MARRIAGE." 612 00:37:58,311 --> 00:38:01,014 AND AS WE'RE SITTING HERE AND I WATCHED YOUR CROSS-EXAMINATION, 613 00:38:01,014 --> 00:38:03,116 THERE'S AN ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING 614 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:05,218 DO YOU FEEL YOU SHOULD'VE OWNED UP TO MORE OF YOUR OWN BAD 615 00:38:05,218 --> 00:38:07,354 BEHAVIOR >> I'M - 616 00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:09,489 >> Reporter: THAT WAS REVEALED IN COURT 617 00:38:09,489 --> 00:38:14,794 >> I'M GLAD, ACTUALLY, YOU ASKED ME THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 618 00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:19,566 THERE IS AN ANSWER FOR THESE THINGS THAT YOU SAY. 619 00:38:19,566 --> 00:38:25,705 I SAID THIS ON THE STAND MY -- YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR MY 620 00:38:25,705 --> 00:38:30,243 VOICE IN THOSE AUDIO TAPES IT'S NOT THE VOICE I -- OF ME 621 00:38:30,243 --> 00:38:34,481 NOW. THAT'S NOT WHO I AM NOW. 622 00:38:34,481 --> 00:38:38,752 I DID DO AND SAY HORRIBLE, REGRETTABLE THINGS THROUGHOUT MY 623 00:38:38,752 --> 00:38:42,956 RELATIONSHIP I BEHAVED IN HORRIBLE -- ALMOST 624 00:38:42,956 --> 00:38:49,662 UNRECOGNIZABLE TO MYSELF WAYS. THERE'S SO MU -- I HAVE SO MUCH 625 00:38:49,662 --> 00:38:54,734 REGRET >> Reporter: ON THE FIRST DAY OF 626 00:38:54,734 --> 00:38:57,904 THE TRIAL YOU ISSUED A STATEMENT, AND PART OF THE 627 00:38:57,904 --> 00:39:00,040 STATEMENT SAID, "I STILL HAVE LOVE FOR JOHNNY. 628 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,708 >> YES >> Reporter: IS THAT STILL TRUE. 629 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,777 >> YES >> Reporter: AFTER EVERYTHING. 630 00:39:03,777 --> 00:39:06,446 >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY 631 00:39:06,446 --> 00:39:08,548 I LOVE HIM I LOVED HIM WITH ALL MY HEART. 632 00:39:08,548 --> 00:39:11,184 AND I TRIED THE BEST I COULD TO MAKE A DEEPLY BROKEN 633 00:39:11,184 --> 00:39:13,887 RELATIONSHIP WORK. AND I COULDN'T 634 00:39:13,887 --> 00:39:16,523 >> Reporter: AMBER HEARD SAYS SHE INTENDS TO APPEAL HER CASE 635 00:39:16,523 --> 00:39:20,827 AND SHE'S CONCERNED HER DEFEAT MAY BE A SET-BACK FOR OTHER 636 00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:22,929 WOMEN. >> I HOPE THIS HASN'T, YOU KNOW, 637 00:39:22,929 --> 00:39:27,167 HAD THE CHILLING EFFECT THAT I WORRY IT MAY HAVE ON OTHER 638 00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:30,904 PEOPLE I WORRY ABOUT THAT 639 00:39:30,904 --> 00:39:39,946 BUT IF I CAN LOOK YOU IN THE EYES, SAVANNAH, AND SAY, "I'M 640 00:39:39,946 --> 00:39:42,549 STILL HERE," THEN MAYBE THAT SERVES TO BALANCE OUT SOME OF 641 00:39:42,549 --> 00:39:47,120 THE VERY, VERY REAL FEAR OTHERS MAY HAVE ABOUT COMING FORWARD OR 642 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,057 SPEAKING OUT >> Reporter: HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR 643 00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:55,829 FUTURE NOW DO YOU THINK YOU'LL ACT AGAIN? 644 00:39:55,829 --> 00:40:00,633 >> I GET TO BE A MOM I GET TO BE A MOM, LIKE, 645 00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:03,803 FULL-TIME. >> Reporter: ONE DAY YOU MAY 646 00:40:03,803 --> 00:40:06,439 WANT TO TELL YOUR DAUGHTER ABOUT THIS OR HAVE TO TELL YOUR 647 00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:09,275 DAUGHTER ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH. 648 00:40:09,275 --> 00:40:13,380 WHAT WOULD YOU TELL HER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE AND WHAT THIS 649 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:18,718 EXPERIENCE HAS MEANT >> I THINK NO MATTER WHAT, IT 650 00:40:18,718 --> 00:40:24,557 WILL MEAN SOMETHING. I DID THE RIGHT THING. 651 00:40:24,557 --> 00:40:29,295 I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF AND THE 652 00:40:29,295 --> 00:40:33,066 TRUTH. I LOOK FORWARD TO LIVING MY 653 00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:41,007 LIFE AND I HAVE A LONG ONE, I HOPE, 654 00:40:41,007 --> 00:40:43,677 IN FRONT OF ME AND I -- I'LL CONTINUE TO WALK 655 00:40:43,677 --> 00:40:47,013 THROUGH THIS WITH MY -- MY CHIN UP 656 00:40:47,013 --> 00:40:50,050 >>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "DATELINE." 657 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:53,253 WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY AT 10:00/9:00 CENTRAL. 658 00:40:53,253 --> 00:40:56,956 AND OF COURSE, I'LL SEE YOU EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR NBC NIGHTLY NEWS 659 00:40:56,956 --> 00:40:56,956 WEEKNIGHT FOR NBC NIGHTLY NEWS 660 00:40:56,956 --> 00:40:56,956 I'M LESTER HOLT.