>> THERE'S BLOOD ALL OVER MY
HUSBAND. >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU SEE
WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE BEDROOM >> A DECEASED MALE LAYING ON THE
BED, BLOOD ON HIM. >> MY BROTHER HAS BEEN MURDERED.
THINGS LIKE THAT JUST DON'T HAPPEN TO A PERSON
BUT THEY WERE HAPPENING. >> SHE SAID TO ME, "THEY
BUTCHERED MY KENNY." >> Reporter: HOW SCARED WERE YOU
FOR YOUR SISTER? >> OH, I WAS TERRIFIED
>> THERE WAS A PIECE OF PAPER ON THE BED WITH A KNIFE THROUGH IT
THAT SAID, "BITCH. I BELIEVE THEY CAME IN THERE TO
KILL MY SISTER >> Reporter: THIS IS A REAL
WHODUNIT >> CORRECT
WE HAD A CAST OF CHARACTERS THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK INTO
>> Reporter: TO MAKE THINGS EVEN WEIRDER, ONE OF THESE MEN WAS
EDDIE MUNSTER. >> YES, YES.
>> Reporter: AN ACTOR FROM, LIKE -- BLAST FROM THE PAST.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH
>> IT'S LIKE, "WHAT DO WE GOT HERE?"
>> MURDER ON THE FARM -- A MYSTERY FROM THE HEARTLAND THAT
WILL HAUNT YOU I'M LESTER HOLT, AND THIS IS
"DATELINE.
TROUBLE AT DILL CREEK FARM." >> Reporter: YOU'LL FIND IT AT
THE END OF MAPLE ROAD, A FARM WHERE YEARS AGO CHILDREN PLAYED
IN THE CREEK AND RODE THEIR FATHER'S PRIZE HORSES, WHERE
LIFE WAS GOOD. HE WAS A GENTLE GIANT.
AND THE FARM, NESTLED IN THE HEART OF WISCONSIN, WAS HIS VERY
OWN SHANGRI-LA UNTIL THE VIOLENCE CAME, RIPPING
THEM ALL APART >> 911 EMERGENCY
CAN I HELP YOU >> Reporter: IT WAS EARLY
MORNING, AUGUST 2006 A WOMAN IN A CAR TORE OUT OF THE
DRIVEWAY AND LURCHED TO A STOP AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
SHE HAMMERED ON THE DOOR, DESPERATE TO USE THE PHONE
HER CRIES PIERCED THE COUNTRY STILLNESS.
>> WHAT'S THE PROBLEM, MA'AM >> THERE'S BLOOD ALL OVER MY
HUSBAND. HE'S JUST THERE LAYING THERE
WITH ALL THIS BLOOD. >> Reporter: THEN, JUST AS
SUDDENLY, SHE WAS GONE, RACING TO ANOTHER NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE,
BEGGING THAT NEIGHBOR TO CALL 911 TOO.
>> I'M CALLING FOR KEN -- UH, MRS. KEN JUEDES.
SHE'S IN THE HOUSE HERE, AND SHE SAID HER HUSBAND IS IN THEIR
HOUSE ALL FULL OF BLOOD AND HER PHONE WON'T WORK
>> TELL HER -- DO WE KNOW IF HE'S BREATHING AT ALL?
>> IS HE BREATHING HONEY >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW IF HE'S UNCONSCIOUS OR -
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> SHE DOESN'T KNOW.
>> THEY'LL GET SOME HELP QUICK, HONEY, ALL RIGHT
DON'T WORRY. THEY'LL GET HELP
>> Reporter: AN AMBULANCE SPED DOWN THE COUNTRY ROADS AND WORD
SPREAD LAURIE JUEDES WAS ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE COUNTRY IN WASHINGTON STATE WHEN SHE GOT A
CALL THAT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO HER OLDER BROTHER, KEN.
MAYBE A FARMING ACCIDENT OF SOME KIND
>> I CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SAY, "WHAT
HAPPENED?" AND THEY SAID, "OH, HANG UP THE
PHONE AND WE'LL CALL YOU BACK. >> Reporter: IS YOUR HEART
POUNDING AT THIS POINT LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON
>> YES >> Reporter: IT MUST BE SCARY.
>> I'M DRIVING THE CAR I GOT MY KIDS IN THE BACKSEAT.
AND THEN, LIKE, THE HEAVENS OPEN UP AND THE WORLD'S CRACKED
>> Reporter: WITHIN MINUTES OF ARRIVING AT THE FARM, AN EMT
CALLED THE MARATHON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
>> UM, WE'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST ONE DETECTIVE, POSSIBLY
TWO. >> I WAS ACTUALLY IN MY SQUAD
CAR WHEN THE CALL CAME IN. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A
POSSIBLE HOMICIDE. >> Reporter: DETECTIVE
SEAN McCARTHY KNEW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE.
DILL CREEK FARM BELONGED TO 58-YEAR-OLD KEN JUEDES, A LOCAL
PHARMACIST MARRIED TO HIS SECOND WIFE, CINDY.
SHE WAS THE WOMAN WHO'D CALLED 911 AND WAS NOW HOLED UP AT HER
NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE THE DETECTIVE MET UP WITH HIS
PARTNER GREG BEAN AT THE FARMHOUSE.
>> Reporter: THIS WAS AN ACTIVE SCENE ALREADY, DEPUTIES
EVERYWHERE >> ACTIVE SCENE.
WE -- WE HAD THE YELLOW TAPE CORDONING OFF THE AREA THERE AT
THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY. >> Reporter: YOU COME INSIDE
WHAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE >> FIRST THING I SEE IS THE
BUTLER OFF TO MY RIGHT >> Reporter: NOT A REAL BUTLER
A LIFE-SIZE HALLOWEEN MANNEQUIN. IT WAS A GHOULISH INTRODUCTION
TO WHAT WAS GOING TO BE A VERY STRANGE CASE
DID IT SCARE THE RESPONDING OFFICERS AT FIRST?
>> YES YEAH
>> Reporter: IT'S ALMOST LIKE GUNS DRAWN, THEN, "THERE'S A
BUTLER OH, IT'S NOT REAL.
>> RIGHT RIGHT.
EXACTLY. YEAH
AND YOU HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THIS MASTER BEDROOM.
>> Reporter: THEIR NEXT STOP WAS THE BEDROOM.
>> AND ON THE BED WAS THE VICTIM
HE WAS LAYING UNCLOTHED WITH SOME MAJOR INJURIES TO HIS
CHEST. >> Reporter: BULLET WOUNDS -
>> BULLET WOUNDS >> Reporter: -- TO THE CHEST
KEN HAD BEEN SHOT TWICE AT CLOSE RANGE.
AND THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAUGHT THE DETECTIVES' EYE.
>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED, THERE WAS A KNIFE STICKING
THROUGH A PILLOW IT HAD A WHITE NOTE ON IT.
AND ON THE NOTE WAS WRITTEN THE WORD "BITCH.
>> Reporter: WOW THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SEE IN THE
MOVIES >> IT DEFINITELY GOT OUR
ATTENTION. LIKE, WE HADN'T SEEN THAT
BEFORE >> Reporter: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A
REVENGE THING. >> AND THEN YOU WONDER WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE AND WHAT WAS REALLY MEANT TO HAPPEN THAT
NIGHT. RIGHT?
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES WONDERED WHETHER THE NOTE WAS A
MESSAGE NOT FOR KEN BUT FOR HIS WIFE
>> YOU'VE GOT TO THINK, "WAS SHE A TARGET AS WELL?"
>> Reporter: ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN WASHINGTON, KEN'S SISTER
LAURIE GOT A CALL BACK FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
>> AND THEY SAID, "OH, YES, YOUR BROTHER IS DEAD.
>> Reporter: WOW >> I -- I THINK I STOPPED
BREATHING 'CAUSE I JUST -- I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
>> Reporter: DID YOU SAY, "HOW, WHY, WHERE?"
I MEAN - >> YES
>> Reporter: THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS.
>> ALL OF THOSE. AND ALL THEY WOULD SAY IS, "HE
WAS KILLED WITH TWO SHOTS TO THE TORSO.
>> Reporter: NOW IT'S MURDER >> YEAH.
NOW MY BROTHER HAS BEEN MURDERED
THINGS LIKE THAT JUST DON'T HAPPEN TO A PERSON
BUT THEY WERE HAPPENING. I FELT LIKE THIS WAS A
NIGHTMARE. >>> WHEN WE COME BACK --
WHO WOULD WANT TO KILL KEN JUEDES
INVESTIGATORS DIG IN >> Reporter: YOU'RE ACTIVELY
LOOKING FOR THE MURDER WEAPON IN THE HOUSE?
>> YOU'RE TALKING, LIKE, A 105-ACRE FARM.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY TO COVER.
>> Reporter: ANY SECURITY CAMERA, SECURITY SYSTEM?
>> THEY DID HAVE A CAMERA ON THE GARAGE
>> WHAT WOULD THE FIRST CLUES >> Reporter: PHARMACIST AND
FARMER KEN JUEDES HAD BEEN SHOT TO DEATH IN HIS BED.
DETECTIVES AND CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS WERE SEARCHING
DILL CREEK FARM. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER SAID KEN
HAD BEEN KILLED WITH A SHOTGUN YOU'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THE
MURDER WEAPON IN THE HOUSE >> NOW, AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING,
LIKE, A 105 ACRE FARM. SO THAT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY TO
COVER. >> Reporter: AND HE HAS A LOT OF
GUNS >> HE'S GOT A LOT OF GUNS.
>> Reporter: 'CAUSE HE'S A HUNTER
>> YES >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES
CHECKED TO SEE IF ANY OF THE DOZEN OR SO RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS
KEN OWNED WERE USED IN THE MURDER
>> WE DID AN INSPECTION OF THEM. THERE WAS DUST ON THEM, NO
EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAD BEEN RECENTLY HANDLED OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT. >> Reporter: ANY SECURITY
CAMERA, SECURITY SYSTEM? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION
'CAUSE THEY DID HAVE A CAMERA ON THE GARAGE WHICH WOULD BE FACING
THE DRIVEWAY, AND I THINK ONE TOWARDS THE -- THE BACK OF THE
HOUSE. >> Reporter: DID THE CAMERAS
PICK ANYTHING UP, ANYTHING UNUSUAL, ANY -
ANYBODY WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE, SUSPECTS?
>> NO. WE LOOKED AT IT.
THERE WAS NO FOOTAGE OF THAT NIGHT.
>> Reporter: AS INVESTIGATORS WORKED AND DAY TURNED TO NIGHT,
THERE WAS STILL ONE IMPORTANT PERSON WHO HAD NO IDEA KEN WAS
DEAD HIS MOTHER, MARGARET
SHE'D SEEN KEN JUST THE DAY BEFORE WHEN HE DROPPED BY TO MOW
THE LAWN AND TAKE HER TO VISIT HIS FATHER AT A NEARBY NURSING
HOME >> HE CAME TO SAY GOODBYE, AND,
WELL, I NEVER WILL FORGET IS HE SAID, "YOU ARE THE BEST PARENTS
A GUY COULD HAVE." >> Reporter: 12 HOURS AFTER
KEN'S BLOODIED BODY HAD BEEN FOUND, A PASTOR AND TWO POLICE
OFFICERS KNOCKED ON HER DOOR >> SO THEY CAME IN, AND THAT'S
WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT KEN HAD BEEN MURDERED.
>> Reporter: KEN'S KID SISTER LAURIE AND YOUNGER BROTHER DON,
WHO BOTH LIVED OUT OF STATE, RUSHED HOME TO BE WITH THEIR
MOM. HOW WAS YOUR MOM DOING WHEN YOU
GET TO HER IN WISCONSIN? >> SHE IS MADE OUT OF SOME
STRONG STUFF BUT SHE -- IT TOTALLY DESTROYED
HER. >> SHE HAD TO GO UP AND INFORM
MY FATHER, WHO WAS IN A NURSING HOME, THAT HIS OLDEST SON HAD
BEEN -- JUST BEEN MURDERED AND THAT HAD TO BE TOUGH ALSO.
>> Reporter: LAURIE SAYS KEN WAS HER MOM'S FAVORITE, ALTHOUGH SHE
PROBABLY WOULDN'T ADMIT IT A STAND OUT ATHLETE IN HIGH
SCHOOL LETTERING IN FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL, HE'D SCORED TOP
GRADES AND WORKED A PART TIME JOB AT McDONALD'S.
>> AND ON TOP OF THAT, HAD A VERY GOOD PARTY LIFE
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DID THAT. >> Reporter: HOW DID HE DO ALL
THIS >> IN 24 HOURS IN A DAY.
HE JUST DIDN'T STOP. HE WAS JUST FUN.
WHEN YOU WERE AROUND HIM, YOU FELT WARM JUST BECAUSE HE HAD SO
MUCH ENERGY. >> Reporter: LAURIE SAYS KEN
POWERED THROUGH COLLEGE TOO, THE FIRST IN HIS FAMILY TO GRADUATE.
HE TRAINED TO BE A PHARMACIST. >> THAT WAS BEYOND ANYTHING MY
PARENTS EVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE. >> Reporter: THEY MUST'VE BEEN
SO PROUD OF KEN. >> MY MOTHER JUST REVERED HIM.
HE WAS LIKE THE SHINING STAR >> Reporter: AND KEN ADORED HER.
HE'D DROP BY AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK TO HELP WITH CHORES AND TO
HUG HIS MOTHER >> HE WOULD COME RIGHT UP TO HER
AND WRAP HIS ARMS AROUND HER, GIVE HER A BIG OLD BEAR HUG, AND
LIFT HER UP OFF THE GROUND >> Reporter: HE BOUGHT AN OLD
FARM NEARBY. THAT'S WHERE HE PROPOSED TO HIS
FIRST WIFE, BETTY. >> IT WAS ACTUALLY, "YA THINK
YOU WANNA LIVE HERE WITH ME AND DO THIS TOGETHER?"
AND, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE PROPOSAL
>> Reporter: TOGETHER THEY FIXED UP THE FARM, TURNING IT INTO THE
PERFECT PLACE TO RAISE THEIR FOUR KIDS.
>> WHEN IT CAME MAPLE SYRUP TIME IN THE SPRING, THEY WERE OUT
THERE WITH HIM COLLECTING THE SAP.
THEY WERE PROPPED UP ON THE BACKS OF THE HORSES.
THEY GOT TO RIDE IN THE PARADES THAT THE HORSES WERE PULLING THE
WAGONS IN. >> Reporter: SOUNDS LIKE YOU
WERE A HAPPY FAMILY. >> WE WERE
WE WERE. UNTIL THINGS CHANGED
>> Reporter: THEY'D BEEN MARRIED ABOUT 20 YEARS WHEN BETTY SAYS
SHE NOTICED KEN GROWING INCREASINGLY RESTLESS.
DO YOU THINK FOR YOU TWO IT WAS LESS ABOUT DISAGREEMENTS OR
FIGHTING, MORE ABOUT JUST KIND OF YOU DRIFTING APART?
>> I BELIEVE SO. IT WAS JUST GROWING APART IN OUR
INTERESTS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE
>> Reporter: IN 1998, HE ASKED HER FOR A DIVORCE.
KEN KEPT THE FARM AND THEY SHARED CUSTODY OF THE KIDS
HE STARTED DATING AGAIN, AND A FEW YEARS LATER, HE INTRODUCED
THE FAMILY TO CINDY SCHULZ, HIS NEW GIRLFRIEND
>> SHE DID SEEM QUITE FRIENDLY, QUITE NICE
>> Reporter: KEN'S MOM LIKED HER TOO.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD HELP ME SHE'D HAVE THE WHOLE HOUSE
CLEANED. >> Reporter: WOW
>> AND JUST REALLY NICE. >> I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE IT AS ONE
THING. THEY WERE IN LOVE.
>> Reporter: PAM EWER IS CINDY'S YOUNGER SISTER
I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT KEN AND CINDY HAD MAJOR
CHEMISTRY WITH EACH OTHER. >> RIGHT
YOU -- YOU COULD SEE IT WHEN THEY WALKED INTO THE ROOM.
THEY WERE ARM IN ARM, HAND IN HAND, HIS ARM AROUND HER NECK,
HERS AROUND HIS SHOULDER PEOPLE SAID NOBODY COULD BE THAT
HAPPY. >> Reporter: IN 2004, CINDY
MOVED TO THE FARM. AND THEY GOT MARRIED A FEW
MONTHS LATER >> IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT CINDY
LOOKED LIKE. IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT SHE WAS
WEARING. THAT WAS HIS BEAUTIFUL
AND THAT'S WHAT HE CALLED HER. >> Reporter: THAT WAS HIS
NICKNAME FOR HER >> BEAUTIFUL
>> HI, BEAUTIFUL I WASN'T GOING TO CALL -
>> Reporter: THAT'S WHAT HE CALLED CINDY IN A MESSAGE HE
LEFT HER A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE MURDER
>> I'LL BE HERE UNTIL 6:30 OKAY
BYE. >> Reporter: SO WHAT HAD KEN'S
BEAUTIFUL SEEN THAT NIGHT AT THE FARMHOUSE?
>>> COMING UP -- >> I OPENED UP THE DOOR.
AND THEN I SAW HIM >> CINDY RECOUNTS THAT AWFUL
MORNING. BUT WAS SHE THE ONE NOW IN
DANGER >> THEY SAID THERE WAS A PIECE
OF PAPER ON THE BED WITH A KNIFE THROUGH IT THAT SAID, "BITCH."
>> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT WAS FOR CINDY?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS
NEEDED TO TALK TO THE WIFE OF MURDER VICTIM KEN JUEDES
SHE WAS THE ONE WHO HAD FOUND HIM LYING ON THE BED IN A POOL
OF BLOOD SHE WAS THE ONE WHO HAD MADE
THOSE FRANTIC 911 CALLS FROM HER NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE
THAT'S WHERE DETECTIVES WENT TO INTERVIEW HER IN THE HOURS AFTER
KEN'S BODY WAS FOUND >> THESE TWO GENTLEMEN WOULD
LIKE TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS. >> WHERE IS MY HUSBAND
>> Reporter: CINDY DIDN'T SEEM TO KNOW YET THAT HER HUSBAND WAS
DEAD OR WHAT WAS GOING ON. >> THEY HAVEN'T GONE IN TO TAKE
CARE OF HIM? >> Reporter: BEFORE BREAKING THE
NEWS THAT KEN WAS GONE, DETECTIVES ASKED CINDY TO GO
BACK TO THE BEGINNING, TO TELL THEM EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT
MORNING. SHE TOLD THEM SHE HADN'T SLEPT
IN THE HOUSE THE NIGHT BEFORE. >> I'VE HAD A HEADACHE
THIS'LL BE GOING ON MY THIRD WEEK
>> Reporter: CINDY SAID SHE'D BEEN STRUGGLING TO SLEEP FOR
DAYS, PLAGUED BY MIGRAINES SHE SAID SHE WAS STILL GROGGY
FROM HER MEDICATION AS SHE WAS TALKING TO THEM.
>> I'VE TRIED TO REST IN THE HOUSE BUT THE PHONE RINGS ALL
THE TIME WHEN HE'S ON CALL, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
>> OKAY. >> SO TWO NIGHTS AGO HE SAID,
"WHY DON'T YOU TRY RESTING DOWN IN THE DUCKLING SO YOU DON'T
HEAR THE PHONE?" >> Reporter: THE DUCKLING WAS
WHAT KEN AND CINDY CALLED A CAMPER THEY PARKED IN THE
BACKYARD, THEIR SPECIAL PLACE TO RELAX.
WITH THE HELP OF SOME SLEEP MEDICATION, CINDY SAID SHE'D
SLEPT SOUNDLY THERE ALL NIGHT. SHE SAID SHE KNEW SOMETHING WAS
WRONG WHEN SHE WENT INTO THE HOUSE THE NEXT MORNING AND SAW
KEN HADN'T MADE COFFEE HIS CAR WAS STILL IN THE
DRIVEWAY SHE REALIZED HE HADN'T LEFT FOR
WORK >> SO THEN I WENT INTO THE
BATHROOM AND OPENED UP THE DOOR. AND THEN I SAW HIM
AND HE WAS A VERY WEIRD COLOR. AND I SAID, "KENNY."
AND THEN ALLS I COULD HEAR IS SCREAMING.
AND I WENT TO THE PHONE BY THE BED AND TO DIAL 911, AND THE
PHONE WOULDN'T WORK. AND THEN I WENT TO THE KITCHEN
PHONE, AND ALLS I COULD HEAR WAS SCREAMING.
>> Reporter: CINDY SAID SHE WAS IN SHOCK AND LATER REALIZED SHE
WAS THE ONE SCREAMING. >> I SHOULD'VE GAVE HIM CPR.
I WENT DOWN THE ROAD TO GET A PHONE, TO GET SOMEBODY TO CALL
AN AMBULANCE >> Reporter: CINDY, STILL AT HER
NEIGHBOR MARIAN'S HOUSE, ASKED DETECTIVES HOW HER HUSBAND WAS
DOING. >> WELL, CINDY, WHAT I'M GOING
TO TELL YOU IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, BUT KENNY IS DEAD
>> OH, MARIAN. >> I KNOW.
>> OH. >> I GOT A PHONE CALL AT A
QUARTER AFTER 10:00. AND AN OFFICER SAID -- TOLD ME
THAT KEN HAD PASSED AND THAT MY SISTER NEEDED ME
>> Reporter: CINDY'S SISTER PAM WENT TO PICK HER UP AT THE
NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE >> SHE WAS SITTING IN A
RECLINER, AND THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN DESCRIBE -- SHE
LOOKED HOLLOW. I HAD NEVER SEEN HER LOOK LIKE
THAT EVER, YOU KNOW. AND I SAID, "CIN, WHAT
HAPPENED?" AND SHE SAID TO ME, "THEY
BUTCHERED MY KENNY." >> Reporter: DID YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS? LIKE, "WHO'S THEY, AND WHAT DO
YOU MEAN BUTCHERED?" AND --
>> OH, OH, I -- OH, I HAD -- I HAD TONS OF QUESTIONS.
>> Reporter: THE NEXT DAY, SHE HAD EVEN MORE QUESTIONS.
WHEN PAM ASKED DETECTIVES IF CINDY COULD STOP BY THE
FARMHOUSE, SHE SAYS THEY TOLD HER ABOUT THAT NOTE LEFT ON
CINDY'S SIDE OF THE BED. DID YOU THINK THAT WAS FOR
CINDY? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I BELIEVE THEY CAME IN THERE TO KILL MY SISTER, 100%
THEY CAME IN THERE TO KILL MY SISTER AND THEY DIDN'T FIND HER.
>> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS AGREED THAT THE MURDER SEEMED
LIKE A TARGETED KILLING. >> WHEN YOU HAVE AN ARMED
ROBBERY OR AN UNKNOWN SUSPECT ENTERING A HOME, THERE'S BROKEN
WINDOWS. THERE'S BUSTED OPEN DOORS.
AND THERE WAS NONE OF THAT AT THIS SCENE
>> Reporter: SO THEY BEGAN LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO
THE COUPLE, THOSE WITH ACCESS TO THE FARMHOUSE.
IT TURNED OUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW, STARTING WITH A HANDFUL OF
TEENAGERS. CINDY WAS LICENSED TO TAKE CARE
OF FOSTER KIDS WHO HAD BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW
SHE AND KEN HAD TAKEN IN HALF A DOZEN BOYS OVER THE YEARS.
SOME OF THESE KIDS WERE HIGH RISK
>> YES >> Reporter: WITH VIOLENT PASTS?
>> VIOLENT PASTS DIFFICULT FOR THE PARENTS TO
CONTROL. >> Reporter: DETECTIVE McCARTHY
REMEMBERED INTERVIEWING KEN AND CINDY ABOUT ONE OF THE FOSTER
KIDS JUST THE YEAR BEFORE. >> I WAS CALLED TO RESPOND TO
ALLEGED SEXUAL ASSAULT >> Reporter: DETECTIVES QUICKLY
LEARNED THERE HAD BEEN OTHER INCIDENTS.
ONE OF THE FOSTER KIDS HAD GOTTEN IN TROUBLE FOR TAKING A
KNIFE TO SCHOOL. CINDY SAID ANOTHER BOY MADE
THREATS AGAINST HER. YOU REALLY HAD TO LOOK AT THESE
TEENAGE BOYS >> OH, YEAH.
>> WE TRAVELED TO GO GET THE BACKGROUNDS OF THESE TROUBLED
YOUTH AND TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S SIMILARITIES IN THE CRIMES THAT
THEY ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE CRIME WE WERE INVESTIGATING.
>> Reporter: DETECTIVES HAD BARELY STARTED TRACKING DOWN THE
FOSTER KIDS WHEN CINDY TOLD THEM ABOUT AN EVEN MORE DISTURBING
SUSPICION. SHE SAID THEY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK
AT ANOTHER KID, SOMEONE EVEN CLOSER TO KEN.
>>> COMING UP -- >> Reporter: THE POLICE
INTERVIEW YOUR CHILDREN. >> OH, YES
>> Reporter: TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH
IT >> YES
>> Reporter: SEEMS LIKE NONE OF THE KIDS LIKED CINDY
>> THERE WAS A WEDGE THERE AND JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT AT
>> Reporter: TUCKED AWAY IN THE HEART OF WISCONSIN FARM COUNTRY
WAS DILL CREEK FARM, KEN JUEDES' HAVEN.
HIS SPECIAL PLACE. AFTER CINDY MOVED IN, THEY
DECIDED TO SHARE IT WITH A GROUP OF FOSTER KIDS, SOME OF THEM
WITH VIOLENT PASTS CINDY HAD BEEN A PROFESSIONAL
CAREGIVER MOST OF HER LIFE BEFORE SHE MET KEN, SHE RAN A
GROUP HOME FOR ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT CINDY'S PERSONALITY THAT WAS A GOOD FIT
WITH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO NEEDED HELP?
>> JUST A CARETAKER. SHE WAS JUST A GOOD CARETAKER,
YOU KNOW WASN'T -- WASN'T IN IT FOR THE
MONEY BUT WAS IN IT TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER
>> Reporter: NOW THAT KEN WAS DEAD, INVESTIGATORS WONDERED IF
THAT KINDNESS HAD COME AT A TERRIBLE COST.
COULD ONE OF THE COUPLE'S FOSTER CHILDREN BE KEN'S KILLER
WERE ANY OF THE TEENAGE BOYS LIVING IN THE HOUSE AT THE TIME?
>> YES BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE THAT
EVENING. >> Reporter: WHERE WERE THEY
>> ONE WAS IN A TREATMENT FACILITY
ANOTHER ONE WAS IN A SECURE DETENTION.
>> Reporter: WERE THEY REALLY IN THESE PLACES
>> YES >> EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT WITH
THEM >> Reporter: PAM SAYS THAT
DIDN'T MAKE HER SISTER FEEL ANY BETTER
SHE SAYS CINDY WAS CONVINCED WHOEVER KILLED KEN COULD COME
FOR HER NEXT SHE INSTALLED A BRAND-NEW ALARM
SYSTEM AT THE FARMHOUSE. >> AND I SAID, "CIN" -- I SAID,
"WHY DON'T YOU COME AND STAY WITH ME?
SHE SAID, "BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN DANGER."
SHE SAID, "IF THEY KILL ME, I'LL BE WITH KEN.
>> Reporter: DETECTIVES STOPPED BY A WEEK AFTER THE MURDER
THEY NOTICED SOMETHING STRANGE >> THE PHOTOS OF KEN'S
BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN WERE TAKEN OFF THE WALL
AND CINDY'S SISTER MADE THE COMMENT TO ME, "YEAH, CINDY TOOK
THEM DOWN, AND SHE ACTUALLY SPIT ON THEM AND THREW THEM IN THE
CORNER." >> Reporter: WHY WOULD SHE DO
THAT REMEMBER THAT NOTE LEFT ON THE
PILLOW NEXT TO HER DEAD HUSBAND? >> SHE WENT, YOU KNOW, "THAT'S
WHAT THE KIDS CALLED ME WAS 'THE BITCH.
I WAS 'THE BITCH'. >> Reporter: CINDY'S THINKING
MAYBE THE -- ONE OF THE KIDS DID IT
>> YES, YES. >> Reporter: AT THE TIME OF HIS
MURDER, KEN'S FOUR CHILDREN FROM HIS FIRST MARRIAGE RANGED IN AGE
FROM 23 TO 16. ALEX WAS THE YOUNGEST.
SPECIFICALLY SHE'S THINKING ALEX
>> SHE -- SHE -- SHE DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS A 16-YEAR-OLD KID. YOU KNOW, SHE DON'T WANT TO
THINK THAT BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
>> Reporter: CINDY TOLD DETECTIVES THAT ALEX WAS ANGRY
AT HIS DAD ABOUT THE DIVORCE SHE SAID HE'D TOLD SOMEONE AT
HIS HIGH SCHOOL THAT HE HATED HER AND KEN SO MUCH HE COULD
KILL THEM. AND THERE WAS MORE
CINDY SAID THAT HE HAD STOLE A GUN.
>> SHE SAYS THAT ALEX WAS, LIKE, TAKING AMMUNITION, SOME OF DAD'S
AMMUNITION, OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THEN SHE TALKED ABOUT THE
SHOTGUN OF HERS THAT WAS STOLEN. >> Reporter: DETECTIVES WERE ALL
EARS AS CINDY LAID OUT HER SUSPICIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY
FOUND OUT THAT THE MISSING SHOTGUN WAS A 20-GAUGE.
JUST LIKE THE MURDER WEAPON. DID YOU THINK ALEX COULD'VE LEFT
THE "BITCH" NOTE ON CINDY'S PILLOW
>> CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY AT THIS POINT
>> Reporter: BUT THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST KEN'S KIDS DIDN'T STOP
WITH ALEX. CINDY TOLD INVESTIGATORS ABOUT A
CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER ONE OF HIS SONS -- NOAH
>> NOAH HAD A VEHICLE THAT WAS -- CINDY LET HIM TAKE DOWN
TO COLLEGE IN FLORIDA. AND NOAH WAS TRYING TO GET THE
TITLE AND THE REGISTRATION IN HIS NAME IN FLORIDA.
BUT CINDY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND WAS VERY UPSET AND -- VERY UPSET
WITH NOAH AND ARRANGED TO HAVE THE CAR REMOVED FROM FLORIDA
>> Reporter: OH. SO THAT WAS PAYBACK FOR HIM
TRYING TO -- >> THAT'S A BIG --
>> Reporter: -- TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE VEHICLE
>> RIGHT YES.
>> Reporter: SEEMS LIKE NONE OF THE KIDS LIKED CINDY
>> I THINK INITIALLY, AT THE ONSET, WHEN -- WHEN THEY FIRST
MET, I THINK THAT SHE DID HAVE, LIKE, A STRONGER CONNECTION WITH
ALEX AT -- AT THAT POINT I THINK THAT
DISSOLVED RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND THERE WAS A WEDGE THERE.
AND JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT WEDGE WAS AND WHAT ARE THE
UNDERLYING FACTORS WHY ARE WE AT THIS POINT
>> Reporter: DETECTIVES WENT TO TALK TO KEN'S FIRST WIFE, BETTY,
AND THE KIDS THE POLICE INTERVIEW YOUR
CHILDREN >> OH, YES
>> Reporter: TRYING TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANYTHING TO DO THIS
>> YES THEY CAME TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE
WHERE WE WERE STAYING, AND THEY SEPARATED THE KIDS
ONE WENT OUTSIDE ON A PICNIC TABLE, ONE IN THE HOUSE IN
VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, POSITIONS AND INTERVIEWED THEM ABOUT THE
MURDER >> Reporter: CINDY TOLD PEOPLE
THAT THE KIDS YOU SHARE WITH KEN WOULD SWEAR AT HER AND CALL HER
A BITCH. HAD YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT >> I DON'T KNOW MY KIDS TO TALK
LIKE THAT OR BE LIKE THAT. ALTHOUGH ALSO BEING TEENAGERS,
AND IF THEY WERE UPSET OR ANGRY, THEY COULD HAVE.
>> Reporter: THE POLICE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS FOR BETTY.
TURNS OUT IN THE MONTHS BEFORE THE MURDER, KEN AND BETTY WERE
BACK IN FAMILY COURT FIGHTIN OVER MONEY AND CUSTODY OF ALEX
CINDY TOLD POLICE THINGS GOT UGLY AFTER ONE PARTICULAR
HEARING. CINDY MADE THE ACCUSATION THAT
YOU SAID THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF KEN WAS DEAD
>> SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING CINDY WOULD SAY.
>> Reporter: YOU NEVER SAID THAT
>> I NEVER SAID THAT >> Reporter: BUT DETECTIVES WERE
ABOUT TO LEARN KEN HAD OTHER STRAINED RELATIONSHIPS
THE INVESTIGATION WAS HEADED TO A PLACE CALLED MONSTER HALL.
>>> COMING UP -- >> A SPORTY NEW INVESTMENT FOR
KEN -- THE MONSTER HALL RACEWAY. BUT THE DEAL WITH A BUSINESS
PARTNER WAS ABOUT TO VEER WAY OFF TRACK.
>> HE TOLD PEOPLE IF KEN CONTINUED TO TRY AND TAKE AWAY
HIS BUSINESS, HE WOULD KILL HIM. KEN JUEDES' MURDER, HIS CURRENT
WIFE CINDY SUGGESTED INVESTIGATORS CHECK OUT HIS
EX-WIFE, BETTY SIX YEARS AFTER THE DIVORCE, THE
EXES HAD BEEN CLASHING IN COURT. WHAT DID YOU TELL THEM WHEN THEY
ASK YOU, "DID YOU KILL KEN?" >> NO, I DID NOT
>> Reporter: DETECTIVES SAID THEY BELIEVED BETTY.
BUT THEY STILL NEEDED TO CHECK OUT KEN'S CHILDREN, STARTING
WITH 16-YEAR-OLD ALEX. BETTY SAID THE CONFLICT BETWEEN
FATHER AND SON CAME TO A HEAD ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE THE
MURDER >> I DROVE ALEX OUT TO HIS DAD'S
PLACE FOR HIS WEEK THERE, AND WE WERE MET WITH TWO BIG, BLACK
GARBAGE BAGS SITTING ON THE PORCH.
AND CINDY CAME OUT OF THE HOUSE AND SHE SAID, "ALEX, YOU'RE NO
LONGER WELCOME HERE. SHE SAID, "I PACKED UP YOUR
STUFF. YOU CAN GO AND LIVE WITH YOUR
MOM. >> Reporter: WOW
>> YEAH. THAT WAS A HUGE SHOCK TO ME, AND
I CAN -- I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW ALEX FELT BECAUSE HE LOVED BEING
OUT ON THE FARM. >> Reporter: BETTY SAYS ALEX WAS
CONFUSED AND HURT. BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE HIM A
KILLER WAS ALEX CAPABLE OF KILLING HIS
OWN FATHER >> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
HE LOVED HIS DAD SO MUCH >> Reporter: ALEX TOLD
DETECTIVES HE DIDN'T STEAL THE SHOTGUN AND HE DIDN'T THREATEN
TO KILL HIS DAD. HE SAID HE'D ALWAYS HOPED TO
PATCH THINGS UP WITH HIS DAD ONE DAY.
AND HE SAID HE HAD A STRONG ALIBI.
HE WAS AT HIS MOM'S HOUSE THAT NIGHT WITH TWO OF HIS SIBLINGS
>> AFTER ALL WAS SAID AND DONE WITH -- WITH SPEAKING WITH ALEX,
BASED ON YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, IT WAS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT ALEX
WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED HIS FATHER
>> Reporter: AS FOR KEN'S SON NOAH, WHO'D BEEN BATTLING CINDY
AND HIS DAD OVER THAT CAR, DETECTIVES DETERMINED WHERE HE
WAS THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER TOO. >> HE WAS IN MINNESOTA AND WE
HAD ALIBIED HIM THAT NIGHT AS WELL
>> Reporter: KEN'S SISTER LAURIE NEVER THOUGHT FOR A MINUTE THAT
HIS CHILDREN WERE BEHIND THE MURDER
SHE SAYS EVERYTHING JUST FELT SO SURREAL WITH HER BIG BROTHER
GONE >> HE WAS SO FULL OF LIFE, YOU
KNOW HE WAS BIGGER THAN LIFE.
HOW COULD HE NOT BE HERE ANYMORE?
>> Reporter: AND FOR A SISTER WHO LIVED THOUSANDS OF MILES
AWAY, SHE REALIZED HOW LITTLE SHE KNEW ABOUT KEN'S LIFE.
OF COURSE, HE WAS A PHARMACIST, AND HE WAS DEVOTED TO HIS FARM
BUT HE WAS ALSO PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE
KEN WAS PART OWNER OF A LOCAL RACETRACK.
>> OH, HE LOVED IT HE WAS PLAYING "KEN AT THE
TRACK," YEAH HE HAD HIS CAMPER SITTING RIGHT
THERE, AND THERE WERE ALWAYS THINGS GOING ON AND PEOPLE
WALKING BY AND SAYING HI AND STOPPING IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT WAS HAPPY TIMES. >> Reporter: IT WAS CALLED
MONSTER HALL RACEWAY, A NOD TO THE OLD '60s SITCOM
"THE MUNSTERS. BUTCH PATRICK, THE ACTOR WHO
PLAYED EDDIE MUNSTER, WOULD COME AND SIGN AUTOGRAPHS.
BUT THE PHARMACIST'S FUN SIDE HUSTLE HAD QUICKLY TURNED INTO A
DISASTROUS MONEY PIT LAURIE SAID THE WORST PART FOR
HER BROTHER WASN'T HIS OWN FINANCIAL LOSS
IT WAS THAT HE'D ENCOURAGED HIS FRIEND AND FELLOW PHARMACIST,
ED KOSTLEVY, TO INVEST TOO >> I THINK HE FELT A SENSE OF
RESPONSIBILITY THAT HE HAD GOTTEN HIS FRIEND INTO THIS
LOSING BUSINESS AND THAT HIS FRIEND WAS SUFFERING THE
CONSEQUENCES AS WELL >> Reporter: CINDY'S SISTER PAM
SAID THAT WASN'T THE ONLY STRAIN ON THE FRIENDSHIP.
>> BEFORE CINDY MET KEN, KEN WENT TO VEGAS.
KEN DID THE OLD LAP DANCES OR WHATEVER THEY DO OR WHATEVER
THAT WAS KEN AND ED WAS HIS NUMBER ONE PERSON
THAT HE DRUG AROUND. >> Reporter: BUT YOU SAY THAT
ALL STOPPED WHEN HE MET CINDY. >> BECAUSE HE WASN'T GOING TO
WRECK THIS RELATIONSHIP. >> Reporter: SO BYE-BYE, NAKED
LADIES >> BYE-BYE, NAKED LADIES
AND ED WASN'T HAPPY. >> Reporter: HE LOST HIS PARTNER
IN CRIME, SO TO SPEAK. >> YEP
>> Reporter: POLICE TRACKED ED DOWN VERY EARLY IN THE
INVESTIGATION. >> THERE WERE A LOT OF
INTERVIEWS, ESPECIALLY AT FIRST. >> Reporter: DETECTIVES ASKED ED
WHERE HE WAS THE NIGHT KEN WAS KILLED
HE SAID HE WAS AT HOME WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND, AN EXOTIC DANCER
HE'D MET YEARS BEFORE. A FRIEND OF HERS WAS THERE TOO
>> THEY MOVED IN WITH ME ABOUT THE THURSDAY BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
AND THEN AFTER THE MURDER, I HELPED THEM GET AN APARTMENT IN
WAUSAU >> Reporter: ED SAID HIS
FRIENDSHIP WITH KEN WAS SOLID AND HIS ALIBI SEEMED TO CHECK
OUT. BUT DETECTIVES WEREN'T DONE
INVESTIGATING MONSTER HALL RACEWAY.
THEY HAD PLENTY OF QUESTIONS FOR THE OTHER PART-OWNER OF THE
RACEWAY. HIS NAME WAS RANDALL LANDWEHR.
>> WE FOUND OUT THAT BEING IN BUSINESS WITH HIM, HE WASN'T THE
PERSON WE THOUGHT HE WAS >> Reporter: RANDALL OWNED THE
CAMPGROUND NEXT TO THE RACETRACK.
ED TOLD DETECTIVES HE HAD LIED TO HIM AND KEN ABOUT THE VALUE
OF THE RACEWAY TO GET THEM TO INVEST
THEY'D FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST HIM AND WERE HELPING POLICE
INVESTIGATE HIM FOR FRAUD. SO HOW DID RANDALL TAKE ALL
THIS, THAT THEY'RE COMING AT HIM TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET HIM IN
TROUBLE AND DRIVE HIM OUT? >> I WAS TOLD THAT AT A TOWN
HALL MEETING FOR THE TOWN THAT THIS -- THIS RACETRACK WAS IN,
RANDALL TOLD PEOPLE AT THIS MEETING IF KEN CONTINUED TO TRY
AND TAKE AWAY HIS BUSINESS, HE WOULD KILL HIM
>> Reporter: ED SAYS HE HEARD RANDALL THREATEN KEN TO HIS
FACE IT HAPPENED AT THEIR REGULAR
HANGOUT, THE BAR AT THE CAMPGROUND NEAR THE RACETRACK.
>> AND I WAS STANDING IN BETWEEN THEM
AND RANDALL KEPT REPEATING THAT HE WAS GOING TO KILL THIS --
I WAS SHOCKED. >> Reporter: DO YOU KNOW HOW KEN
RESPONDED TO THIS ALLEGED DEATH THREAT
>> YES IT JUST MADE KEN MORE
DETERMINED >> Reporter: MORE DETERMINED TO
PUSH RANDALL OUT OF MONSTER HALL FOR GOOD
BUT DETECTIVES WANTED TO KNOW -- HAD KEN PUSHED RANDALL TOO FAR
THEY NEEDED TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS PARTNER RIGHT AWAY.
>>> COMING UP -- >> Reporter: HE DOES HAVE A
POSSIBLE MOTIVE. >> CERTAINLY NOT ONE TO CROSS
OFF THE LIST >> THAT LIST OF POSSIBLE
SUSPECTS WAS ABOUT TO GET LONGER
>> "THEY FOUND A WILL. AND I SAID, "OH, MY GOSH, WHAT
DOES THE WILL SAY? "CINDY GETS EVERYTHING."
>> Reporter: LEADING UP TO HIS MURDER, KEN JUEDES HAD BEEN
FEUDING WITH HIS BUSINESS PARTNER FROM MONSTER HALL
RACEWAY, RANDALL LANDWEHR. HE'D BEEN HELPING POLICE
INVESTIGATE RANDALL AND FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST HIM.
>> RANDY HAD A REPUTATION AS BEING SOMEBODY WITH A HORRIBLE
TEMPER IT WAS A VERY FLAMMABLE
SITUATION. >> Reporter: WHAT HAPPENED WHEN
YOU WENT TO GO SEE RANDALL >> HE BASICALLY SAID, "I WANT TO
MEET WITH AN ATTORNEY," WHICH WAS CERTAINLY HIS RIGHT.
>> Reporter: WITH HIS ATTORNEY AT HIS SIDE A FEW DAYS LATER,
RANDALL DENIED EVER THREATENING KEN AND TOLD POLICE THAT HE AND
HIS NEPHEW WERE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER.
>> I JUST DIDN'T THINK I HAD THE MURDERER AT THIS POINT
>> Reporter: JUST INSTINCTS WERE TELLING YOU?
>> YES >> Reporter: HE DOES HAVE A
POSSIBLE MOTIVE. >> THERE'S A MOTIVE THERE.
THERE CERTAINLY IS AND CERTAINLY NOT ONE TO CROSS
OFF THE LIST >> Reporter: BUT YOU PUT HIM ON
THE BACK BURNER FOR NOW? >> YES
>> Reporter: WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE
>> YES >> Reporter: AS MORE TIME WENT
ON AND THE MURDER WENT UNSOLVED, PAM SAYS CINDY WAS LIVING IN
FEAR SHE MADE PANICKED CALLS TO
DETECTIVES AND 911 THERE WAS A STRANGE CAR IN HER
DRIVEWAY SHE THOUGHT SOMEONE HAD OPENED
HER DOORS. AND THOUGH IT TURNED OUT TO BE A
FALSE ALARM, SHE ONCE REPORTED AN INTRUDER IN THE FARMHOUSE
>> THIS IS THE MARATHON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
>> YES, GET A POLICE OFFICER HERE
>> Reporter: HOW SCARED WERE YOU FOR YOUR SISTER?
>> OH, I WAS TERRIFIED >> Reporter: KEN'S BROTHER DON
SAYS HE HAD NO IDEA HOW CINDY WAS DOING AFTER KEN'S MURDER
>> CINDY WAS NOT COMMUNICATIVE WITH US.
I THINK I PLACED THREE CALLS TO HER AFTER KEN'S
MURDER, AND SHE NEVER RETURNED ONE OF THEM.
>> Reporter: LAURIE DIDN'T PARTICULARLY MISS HER.
SHE SAYS SHE HADN'T LIKED CINDY FROM THEIR VERY FIRST PHONE
CALL, BACK WHEN KEN AND CINDY WERE DATING.
SHE SAYS CINDY LIED TO HER >> SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
KEN'S WEDDING EARLIER THAT SPRING TO HER IN LAS VEGAS
>> Reporter: LAURIE KNEW CINDY AND HER BROTHER WEREN'T MARRIED
YET, BUT SHE SAYS CINDY WENT ON AND ON ABOUT IT.
>> IT WAS VERY ROMANTIC, AND KEN COULD BE VERY ROMANTIC
AND I GUESS AS A LITTLE SISTER, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT
AND SO HERE I AM, TALKING TO THIS WOMAN ABOUT A WEDDING THAT
I KNOW DIDN'T HAPPEN >> Reporter: DID YOU CALL HER
OUT RIGHT THERE ON THE PHONE >> I DID
>> Reporter: WOW, THIS IS -- THIS IS QUITE THE FIRST
IMPRESSION >> BUT IT GETS EVEN WORSE THAN
THAT SO UP TO THIS TIME, SHE WAS JUST
WARM AND BUTTERY "HI, I'M CINDY."
HER VOICE WAS VERY SOFT AND MELLOW
AS SOON AS I BROKE THAT NEWS TO HER, IT WAS LIKE I WAS TALKING
TO A DIFFERENT PERSON. SHE WAS JUST ANGRY
AND HER VOICE EVEN CHANGED >> Reporter: TWO YEARS LATER,
LAURIE'S BROTHER WAS DEAD, HER MOTHER GRIEVING.
AND NOT A WORD FROM CINDY TO ANYONE IN KEN'S FAMILY
LAURIE AND DON WERE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT CINDY HAD BEEN TALKING
TO THE TOWN FUNERAL DIRECTOR >> HE MENTIONED THAT MY
BROTHER'S BODY WAS GOING TO BE CREMATED
NOW, MY MOTHER IS VERY CATHOLIC. AND SHE ALREADY HAD A BURIAL
PLOT SO SHE DIDN'T WANT HIM CREMATED.
>> Reporter: IS IT POSSIBLE THAT KEN HAD TOLD CINDY THAT HE DID
WANT TO BE CREMATED? >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS HIS
WISHES OR NOT. BUT I KNEW IT CERTAINLY WASN'T
MY MOTHER'S WISHES AND I THINK THAT KEN WAS A GOOD
SON AND RESPECTED HIS MOM AND LOVED HER SO MUCH THAT I DOUBTED
THAT HE WANTED TO BE CREMATED AGAINST HER WISHES
>> Reporter: AND AT THE VERY LEAST, CINDY SHOULD BE HAVING A
CONVERSATION WITH THE FAMILY ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS
>> YES YES.
>> Reporter: OF COURSE, AS THE SPOUSE, CINDY HAD BEEN ON THE
DETECTIVES' RADAR SINCE DAY ONE, EVER SINCE HER FIRST INTERVIEW
WITH THEM. THE MOMENT YOU INTERACT WITH
CINDY AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, HOW'S SHE DOING?
WHAT'S HER DEMEANOR? >> SHE WAS FLAT.
I WOULD CALL IT JUST FLAT. LIKE, TALKING REAL LOW, KIND OF
MUTTERING. >> AND THEN I SAW HIM.
AND HE WAS A VERY WEIRD COLOR. AND I SAID, "KENNY."
>> AND JUST SITTING ON A RECLINER WITH HER FEET UP AS WE
GO THROUGH THIS INTERVIEW. >> Reporter: A LITTLE TOO COMFY?
>> COMFY IS A GOOD WORD, YES >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE SAID
THERE WAS NO SIGN CINDY, WHO WAS RECENTLY TRAINED IN CPR, HAD
TRIED TO HELP KEN WHEN SHE FOUND HIM COVERED IN BLOOD
HER WHITE BATHROBE WAS SPOTLESS. BUT IT WAS TAKING A LOOK AT THE
CAMPER PARKED OUTSIDE THE FARMHOUSE THAT REALLY MADE
DETECTIVES START DOUBTING CINDY'S STORY.
CINDY SAID SHE'D SLEPT THERE THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER BECAUSE SHE
HAD A HEADACHE >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE
SOMETHING ANYONE WOULD DO ON -- ON A FAIRLY WARM SUMMER DAY HERE
IN WISCONSIN THE THE CAMPER ITSELF DIDN'T
HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. >> Reporter: THAT WAS SOMETHING
YOU NOTICED RIGHT AWAY >> ABSOLUTELY.
IT WAS VERY WARM THAT DAY. >> Reporter: BUT SHE DID NEED
PEACE AND QUIET. SHE WANTED -- IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE
KIND OF WANTED A COCOON WHERE SHE CAN JUST -
>> YEAH, AND I WOULD SAY THE CAMPER WAS ALSO PAINTED IN A
HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTIF. SO IT WAS BLACK AND, YOU KNOW,
AUGUST SUN BEATING DOWN ON THAT. BUT IT WAS HER COCOON, AS YOU
SAID >> Reporter: DETECTIVES ASKED
FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT KEN AND CINDY'S RELATIONSHIP
NEARLY EVERYONE SAID THEY SEEMED LIKE A GOOD MATCH.
THEN INVESTIGATORS GOT A GLIMPSE OF SOMETHING AT THE FARMHOUSE,
SOMETHING CINDY APPARENTLY DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE.
>> DETECTIVE McCARTHY AND MYSELF WERE AGAIN SPEAKING WITH CINDY
IN HER HOME, AND WE WERE AT THIS DESK
AND I LOOKED DOWN BELOW THE DESK AND THERE WAS A CLOTHES BASKET
FILLED WITH PAPERWORK. AND I HAPPENED TO LOOK UP AT
CINDY. AND SHE NOTED THAT I WAS LOOKING
AT THE STUFF AND SHE TOOK ANOTHER PILE OF
PAPER AND PUT IT ON TOP OF THAT. >> Reporter: WHAT WAS IT
>> WELL, I KNOW IT WAS LIFE INSURANCE DOCUMENTS.
>> Reporter: AND IT WASN'T JUST LIFE INSURANCE
A FEW WEEKS AFTER KEN'S DEATH, LAURIE GOT A CALL FROM HER
BROTHER DON. >> AND DON SAID, "THEY FOUND A
WILL." AND I SAID, "OH, MY GOSH, WHAT
DOES THE WILL SAY? AND DON SAID, "OH, THE WILL SAYS
THAT CINDY GETS EVERYTHING." >> Reporter: WHAT DID YOU MAKE
OF THAT? >> WE COULDN'T FIGURE THAT ONE
OUT. >> THE MARRIAGE WAS LESS THAN
THREE YEARS OLD. AND SO FOR HIM TO CUT HIS OWN
CHILDREN OUT, JUST, AGAIN, SEEMED INCONCEIVABLE
>> Reporter: MAYBE THE PHARMACIST WITH THE RACETRACK
WAS WORTH MORE TO CINDY DEAD THAN ALIVE
DETECTIVES NAMED HER A PERSON OF INTEREST
AND THEN A BRAND-NEW LEAD LANDED ON THE DETECTIVES' DESK, A
STRANGE LETTER WITH SOMETHING EVEN STRANGER TUCKED INSIDE.
>>> COMING UP -- >> THERE WAS, LIKE, A LITTLE
JEWEL BAG. AND IT HAD A HAIR IN IT.
>> Reporter: IN THIS LETTER? >> IN THIS LETTER.
>> Reporter: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
>> I DON'T KNOW! >> Reporter: ARE THEY TRYING TO
SAY THIS -- THE HAIR BELONGS TO THE KILLER
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> Reporter: THIS IS A CRAZY
TWIST TO THE STORY >> RIGHT
>> Reporter: AS THE WEEKS PASSED, PAM SAYS CINDY LISTENED
TO KEN'S VOICE ON THE ANSWERING MACHINE AGAIN AND AGAIN.
>> HI, BEAUTIFUL I WASN'T GOING TO CALL BUT JUST
CHECKING I'LL BE HERE UNTIL 6:30.
OKAY BYE.
>> EVERY DAY SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THIS SAME RECORDING OF KEN
SHE'D GO ABOUT HER DAY CAUTIOUSLY, BELIEVING IT'S NOT
REAL >> Reporter: PAM KNEW HER SISTER
WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR HER HUSBAND KEN'S MURDER
BUT SHE SAYS CINDY WAS NO KILLER
>> I WOULD CONSIDER HER PERFECT. SHE'S CARING FOR EVERYBODY
>> Reporter: AND THE PERSON SHE CARED FOR MOST OF ALL, ACCORDING
TO PAM, WAS KEN. WHEN HE LOST HIS JOB EARLY IN
THEIR RELATIONSHIP, SHE SAID CINDY HADN'T HESITATED TO STEP
UP >> CINDY WAS THE ONE THAT
STEPPED FORWARD AND LENT HIM MONEY.
$18,000 TO LIVE BECAUSE HE WAS PAYING CHILD SUPPORT AND HAD HIS
BILLS AND EVERYTHING >> Reporter: SHE WAS HELPING HIM
GET BY >> YES, YES.
DEFINITELY >> Reporter: AT THE TIME OF HIS
DEATH, KEN WAS BACK TO EARNING GOOD MONEY AS A PHARMACIST
THE FAMILY, THE POLICE, THEY BELIEVE THIS IS ALL OVER THE
MONEY, THE LIFE INSURANCE -- >> NEVER
>> Reporter: -- MONEY. >> CINDY DIDN'T CARE
>> Reporter: AS FOR KEN'S WILL, PAM SAYS CINDY KNEW NOTHING
ABOUT THAT. SHE STUMBLED ACROSS IT STUFFED
IN THE BACK OF HER WEDDING ALBUM.
THE FAMILY FINDS THAT AWFULLY CONVENIENT THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE
HAPPENS TO FIND THIS WILL IN THE WEDDING ALBUM AND THAT, YOU
KNOW, EVERYTHING, LO AND BEHOLD, GOES TO HER, NOTHING TO THE
CHILDREN >> THAT'S BECAUSE KEN WAS MAD AT
THE KIDS KEN FINALLY STOOD UP TO THE KIDS
AND WASN'T GOING TO LET THEM RULE WHO HE HAD A RELATIONSHIP
OR WHAT HE DID, THAT HE WAS NO LONGER GONNA GO BACK TO THEIR
MOTHER >> Reporter: PAM SAYS THERE WAS
ALSO NOTHING SUSPICIOUS ABOUT CINDY SLEEPING IN THAT LITTLE
CAMPER >> IT WAS KEN'S IDEA THAT CINDY
SLEEP THERE. AND AS FAR AS IT BEING HOT,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF AUGUST
BY THE TIME THE SUN STARTS GOING DOWN BEHIND THE TREES, IT COOLS
DOWN >> Reporter: YOU KNOW, I'M FROM
CANADA THE NIGHTS START TO GET A LITTLE
CHILLY JUST -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Reporter: JUST LIKE WHILE WE'VE BEEN STAYING HERE THIS
WEEK, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: AND IT'S COLD AT
NIGHT. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Reporter: PAM SAYS CINDY HAD NOTHING TO HIDE.
SHE COOPERATED WITH INVESTIGATORS FROM DAY ONE,
MEETING THEM WHENEVER THEY NEEDED HER
>> YOU KNOW, SHE SAID, "WELL, YOU CAN LOOK AT ME
IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU KNOW, "YOU'D BE REMISS IF
YOU DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATE ME."
>> Reporter: YOU'RE SAYING CINDY UNDERSTOOD SHE'S THE SPOUSE.
>> RIGHT >> Reporter: YOU KNOW, THE
POLICE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE SPOUSE
THEY HAVE TO ASK - >> RIGHT
>> Reporter: -- THOSE TOUGH QUESTIONS.
>> RIGHT >> Reporter: IN FACT, PAM SAYS
CINDY WAS SO DETERMINED TO PROVE HER INNOCENCE, SHE ARRANGED TO
TAKE A VOICE LAYER ANALYSIS AT A NEIGHBORING POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S LIKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST BUT MEASURES YOUR VOICE.
>> HI, CINDY, THIS IS DETECTIVE PATTY CRUMP.
>> Reporter: SHE GOT THE RESULTS A WEEK LATER
>> FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, YOU DID NOT SHOOT YOUR HUSBAND
>> Reporter: BUT IF CINDY WASN'T THE SHOOTER, WHO WAS
CINDY AND PAM PUT UP POSTERS AROUND TOWN OFFERING A
$25,000 REWARD FOR TIPS. PAM DIDN'T BARGAIN FOR WHAT
HAPPENED NEXT. AN ANONYMOUS LETTER SHOWED UP IN
HER P.O. BOX WHAT DID THE LETTER SAY?
>> I HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER >> Reporter: JUST, YOU KNOW,
PARAPHRASE FOR US WHAT - >> THAT, "HE WOULDN'T GIVE UP
HIS BITCH, SO HE GOT HERS TOO. AND, "KEN WAS SHOT TWICE."
>> Reporter: THIS IS VERY CRYPTIC.
>> IT'S VERY CRYPTIC AND THEN, "IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
WHAT I'M SAYING, CHECK OUT THE BAGGIE."
THERE WAS -- >> Reporter: WHAT BAGGIE
>> THERE WAS A LITTLE, TINY, LIKE, A LITTLE JEWEL BAG
AND IT HAD A HAIR IN IT. >> Reporter: IN THIS LETTER?
>> IN THIS LETTER. >> Reporter: WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Reporter: ARE THEY TRYING TO SAY THIS -- THE HAIR BELONGS TO
THE KILLER >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Reporter: THIS IS A CRAZY TWIST TO THE STORY
>> RIGHT RIGHT.
CINDY OFFERS THE REWARD. THIS COMES IN.
HERE WE'VE GOT THIS -- WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE A PUBIC HAIR --
>> Reporter: EW. >> -- THAT WASN'T KEN'S.
YEAH THAT'S WHAT THE DETECTIVES SAID,
THAT IT WAS SENT IN. IT WASN'T KEN'S.
>> Reporter: WHY WOULD SOMEONE DO THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> Reporter: EW.
>> I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT THE DETECTIVES TOLD
US THEY SAID IT WAS A PUBIC HAIR.
>> Reporter: WHO ARE YOU THINKING THIS LETTER IS FROM
>> WE HAVE NO IDEA >> Reporter: YOU THINK IT'S THE
KILLER >> IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES SENT THE HAIR AND LETTER OFF FOR
ANALYSIS BY THE STATE CRIME LAB AND THE FBI.
BUT THEY GOT NO NEW LEADS. ALMOST A YEAR HAD GONE BY SINCE
KEN'S DEATH. LAURIE SAYS THE WAIT FOR ANSWERS
WAS TAKING ITS TOLL, ESPECIALLY ON HER FATHER.
>> MY FATHER WAS IN THE LAST MONTHS OF HIS LIFE
AND WE KNEW IT >> Reporter: BEFORE HE DIED,
LAURIE'S DAD SAID HE WAS SURE LAURIE WOULD FIGURE OUT WHO
KILLED KEN DID YOU TAKE THAT TO HEART, HIM
SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY
I DIDN'T CARE IF IT TOOK THE REST OF MY LIFE AND EVERY PENNY
IN MY BANK ACCOUNT I WAS GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT
FOR DAD AND FOR KEN. >>> COMING UP --
>> I SAID, "HEY, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KEN'S MURDER?
>> A SISTER TURNS SLEUTH QUESTIONING THE BUSINESS
PARTNER. THE NEIGHBOR
AND THAT WILL. >> IT DIDN'T LOOK LEGITIMATE AT
>> Reporter: A YEAR AFTER KEN'S
MURDER, THERE'D BEEN NO ARREST HIS CHILDREN AND CINDY WERE
SLUGGING IT OUT IN COURT OVER HIS ESTATE
>> SO THAT FIRST YEAR IT WAS DESTROYING ALL OF US
IT WAS SOAKING UP OUR LIVES. >> Reporter: LAURIE WAS
DETERMINED TO LIVE UP TO HER DAD'S FAITH IN HER, THAT SHE
WOULD FIGURE OUT WHO KILLED KEN. SHE DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO ACT
WHERE DO YOU START >> WELL, THAT'S JUST IT, RIGHT
JUST IMAGINE ME. I KNOW NOTHING
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS
WHERE DO I START >> Reporter: BEFORE SHE BECAME A
STAY-AT-HOME MOM, LAURIE HAD WORKED AS A COMPUTER SYSTEMS
ENGINEER >> SO I WENT BACK TO THE METHODS
THAT I USED TO SOLVE COMPUTER PROBLEMS, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL I
KNEW AND THE THING THAT YOU DO IS
GATHER DATA, RIGHT THAT'S HOW YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM
>> Reporter: LAURIE FLEW HOME TO WISCONSIN AND STARTED HUNTING
FOR CLUES. SHE KNOCKED ON DOORS AROUND
KEN'S FARM, ASKING IF ANYONE HAD ANY INFORMATION.
>> AND EVERYBODY POINTED TO THIS ONE NEIGHBOR -- HIS NAME WAS
MARK -- THAT LIVED JUST A FEW MILES FROM
KEN AND WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE RACING THING
>> Reporter: THE NEIGHBOR TOLD LAURIE KEN WASN'T ACTING LIKE
HIMSELF RIGHT BEFORE HE DIED HE SEEMED ON EDGE.
AND HE HAD A STRANGE STORY ABOUT GOING OVER TO THE FARMHOUSE ONE
TIME WHEN KEN WAS OUT OF TOWN AND FINDING THE LOCKS TAMPERED
WITH >> AND AT THE END OF MY TALKING
WITH HIM, I SAID, "WELL, WHAT DID YOU TELL POLICE?
AND HE SAID, "WELL, THEY NEVER ASKED ME ANYTHING.
AND I JUST FOUND THAT INCREDIBLE
>> Reporter: LAURIE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT COPY OF
KEN'S WILL CINDY SAID SHE FOUND IN HER WEDDING ALBUM
>> IT DIDN'T LOOK LEGITIMATE AT ALL.
>> Reporter: YOU THINK CINDY MADE IT UP
>> I DO. >> Reporter: SHE NOTICED THE
WITNESS TO THE WILL WAS KEN'S FELLOW PHARMACIST AND FRIEND,
ED KOSTLEVY. SO SHE ASKED HIM ABOUT IT.
>> I DIDN'T SIGN IT. BOTH KEN JUEDES AND MYSELF WERE
AT WORK THAT DAY, FOR ALL DAY. >> Reporter: LAURIE SENT A COPY
OF THE WILL AND SOME OF KEN'S LIFE INSURANCE DOCUMENTS TO A
HANDWRITING EXPERT WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU?
WHAT WAS HER CONCLUSION? >> SHE TOLD ME THAT BECAUSE I
HAD NOT SENT HER THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, SHE COULDN'T SAY
CONCLUSIVELY BUT SHE DID SAY THERE WAS A HIGH
PROBABILITY THAT THOSE SIGNATURES WERE FORGED
>> Reporter: CINDY HAS ALWAYS DENIED FORGING THE WILL.
BUT LAURIE WASN'T JUST FOCUSED ON KEN'S WIDOW
>> MY MOM WOULD BABYSIT THE KIDS
AND I WOULD GO TALK TO EVERYBODY, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT
I THOUGHT WERE INVOLVED IN HIS MURDER
>> Reporter: THAT COULD BE DANGEROUS.
>> YES I REALLY DIDN'T CARE
>> Reporter: SHE WANTED TO KNOW EVERYTHING SHE COULD ABOUT HER
BROTHER'S FEUD WITH HIS BUSINESS PARTNER, RANDALL LANDWEHR.
THIS IS A MAN THAT ALLEGEDLY PUBLICLY THREATENED TO KILL KEN.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO CONFRONT HIM?
>> YES >> Reporter: SHE TOOK KEN'S
DAUGHTER WITH HER. THEY FOUND HIM AT THE CAMPGROUND
BAR NEXT TO THE RACETRACK. >> IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE OLD
WESTERNS WHERE THERE'S A BAR SCENE AND THE DOORS OPEN AND THE
PERSON WALKS IN AND EVERYBODY STOPS TALKING.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED I WALKED DOWN THIS LONG, LONG
BAR. AND I TAPPED HIM ON THE
SHOULDER AND HE TURNED AROUND
AND HE LOOKED AT ME. AND HIS EYES GOT WIDE LIKE HE
HAD SEEN A GHOST >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
HIM? >> I SAID, "HEY, DO YOU KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT KEN'S MURDER? AND HE SAID, "NO."
HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING. HE DID GO OUT AND TALK WITH ME
THOUGH HE SAID THAT THE FIRST TIME THAT
CINDY CAME TO HIS BAR, CAMPGROUND THING, HE SAID HE
THOUGHT SHE LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS SURVEYING IT LIKE, "HOW CAN I
GET MY HANDS ON THIS?" >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE
HE WAS POINTING THE FINGER AT CINDY?
>> YES, I DID. >> Reporter: WERE THE POLICE
INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE FINDING
OUT? WERE THEY LISTENING TO YOU
>> NO. NO
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES SAY THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THEY TOOK LAURIE'S CALLS AND SUGGESTIONS SERIOUSLY.
BUT LAURIE STARTED BOMBARDING LOCAL OFFICIALS WITH COMPLAINTS
ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION. SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHY
DETECTIVES NEVER TESTED CINDY'S HANDS FOR GUNSHOT RESIDUE.
AND SHE WONDERED WHY THEY'D GIVEN THE FARMHOUSE BACK TO
CINDY AFTER LESS THAN 36 HOURS DID YOU THINK THAT IN HINDSIGHT
MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE KEPT THE HOUSE LONGER
>> I THINK IN THIS CASE, I THINK, AND I'M SURE YOU WOULD
AGREE WITH ME, MAYBE HOLDING THIS HOUSE FOR A LITTLE LONGER
WOULD HELP TO MAYBE LOOK THROUGH.
LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A LARGE PROPERTY
WE FELT THAT WE HAD DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
>> Reporter: LAURIE THINKS THAT YOU DID NOT DO A GOOD JOB?
>> RIGHT >> Reporter: SHE STARTED
INVESTIGATING ON HER OWN BECAUSE SHE FELT YOU WEREN'T DOING
ENOUGH >> I'D LIKE TO SEE HER FINDINGS.
>> RIGHT, AND I -- I WIL SAY -- AND I APPRECIATE, YOU
KNOW, THAT HER -- HER BROTHER WHO -- WHO WAS KILLED IN SUCH A
VIOLENT AND BRUTAL MANNER, I -- I -- I -- I GET THAT PART.
WHAT LAURIE BECAME AND THE -- HER ALLEGATIONS REALLY HINDERED
THIS CASE. >> Reporter: YOU FEEL LIKE SHE
GOT IN THE WAY >> YES
>> OH, YEAH. >> Reporter: THERE WERE TIMES
WHEN THEY SAID THAT YOU -- YOU WERE GETTING A LITTLE TOO
INVOLVED, TOO MUCH IN THE WAY. >> I MAY HAVE BEEN GETTING TOO
INVOLVED AS FAR AS THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE I WAS FINDING
OUT THINGS THAT THEY HADN'T LOOKED INTO.
>> Reporter: BUT DETECTIVES ALSO WEREN'T SHARING EVERYTHING THEY
WERE UP TO THERE WERE NEW WITNESSES AND NEW
STORIES. >>> COMING UP --
>> Reporter: DO YOU HAVE ANY FEARS ABOUT SITTING HERE TODAY
AND TELLING YOUR STORY >> YES
>> AND WHAT'S THIS GUY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS CASE?
>> EDDIE MUNSTER >> Reporter: AN ACTOR FROM,
LIKE, BLAST FROM THE PAST. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
YEAH >> Reporter: IT WAS JUST AFTER
DAWN, THE SUMMER AFTER KEN JUEDES' MURDER, WHEN
DETECTIVE SEAN McCARTHY GOT WOKEN UP BY AN URGENT PHONE CALL
FROM THE MARATHON COUNTY JAIL. SOMEONE HAS INFORMATION ABOUT
THE CASE >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Reporter: THAT SOMEONE WAS BRIAN DEMLER, A BARTENDER AT THE
CAMPGROUND ATTACHED TO THE RACETRACK.
BRIAN WAS UNDER ARREST FOR HIS FIFTH DRUNK DRIVING VIOLATION.
WHY IS HE DOING THIS WHY IS HE CALLING YOU?
>> I THINK HE WAS DEALING WITH SOME OF HIS OWN LEGAL TROUBLES
AND I THINK HE WANTED SOME HELP THAT WAY
>> Reporter: MAYBE CUT A DEAL? >> POSSIBLY.
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE RUSHED TO THE JAIL WITH HIS TAPE
RECORDER IN HAND >> WELL, APPARENTLY THERE ARE
SOME THINGS YOU WANT TO GET OFF YOUR CHEST
>> Reporter: THE BARTENDER SAID HE'D OVERHEARD SOME MEN TALKING
ABOUT THE MURDER >> IT'S ONE OF THE GUYS AT
MONSTER HALL WHO DID IT. >> Reporter: BRIAN SAID IT WAS
NOT RANDALL LANDWEHR, KEN'S BUSINESS PARTNER AT MONSTER HALL
RACEWAY. HE SAID THERE WERE THREE OTHER
MEN DETECTIVES NEEDED TO INVESTIGATE.
>> THE FEW CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE HAD AT BAR, CLOSING TIME,
LAUGHING AND EVERYTHING, I THINK THEM THREE HAD SOMETHING OR
KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. >> THOSE THREE PRETTY TIGHT
THEN >> YEAH.
>> Reporter: SO WHO WERE THEY? ACCORDING TO THE BARTENDER, THE
FIRST MAN WAS JERRY GENTRY, A BUSINESSMAN THEY CALLED
CALIFORNIA JERRY THEN THERE WAS GARY UPTON, ALSO
KNOWN AS DR. DIESECT, WHO SCARED VISITORS AT THE CAMPGROUND'S
HAUNTED MANSION. BUT IT WAS THE THIRD NAME THAT
REALLY GOT THE DETECTIVE'S ATTENTION.
>> EDDIE MUNSTER >> Reporter: OR MORE PRECISELY,
BUTCH PATRICK, THE CHILD ACTOR WHO PLAYED EDDIE MUNSTER IN THE
TV SITCOM "THE MUNSTERS. AN ACTOR FROM, LIKE, BLAST FROM
THE PAST >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
>> Reporter: HE VISITED MONSTER HALL FROM TIME TO TIME, SIGNING
AUTOGRAPHS AND HANGING OUT AT THE BAR.
>> WHY WOULD SOMEONE HAVE ISSUES WITH KEN THOUGH?
I MEAN, WHAT WAS -- WHAT DO YOU THINK WENT BAD
>> I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS -- I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED BUT THEY HAD A FALLING OUT WITH
[ BLEEP ] DRUGS AND EVERYTHING WITH THE RACETRACK
>> Reporter: BRIAN THE BARTENDER SAID KEN HAD SOLD ILLEGAL DRUGS
FROM TIME TO TIME. IN FACT, THE MORNING OF THE
MURDER, HE SAID HE'D GIVEN CALIFORNIA JERRY A RIDE TO KEN'S
HOUSE TO GET SOME COCAINE. >> AND, UH, WHEN HE CAME BACK IN
THE TRUCK, HE WAS PISSED OFF ABOUT SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED
HE SAID THAT [ BLEEP ] BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
AND HE WAS JUST IRATE. >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE
WASN'T SURE WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS
HE THOUGHT THE GUY POINTING FINGERS STILL SEEMED DRUNK,
TALKING IN CIRCLES >> YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL
INVOLVEMENT WITH KEN'S DEATH AT ALL OR ANYTHING?
>> NO. >> Reporter: AND THEN A FEW
WEEKS LATER, DETECTIVES FOUND OUT BRIAN THE BARTENDER WAS
TALKING ABOUT THE MURDER TO PEOPLE AT THE CAMPGROUND
ONLY HIS STORY HAD CHANGED >> HE CHANGES HIS STORY TO WHERE
HE WAS THE -- THE GETAWAY DRIVER OF THESE OTHER THREE AFTER THEY
WENT IN AND KILLED KEN >> Reporter: THIS IS A BIG SHIFT
FROM BEING SUSPICIOUS OF THESE THREE TO NOW HE'S ACTUALLY
INVOLVED >> RIGHT
>> Reporter: DO YOU BRING IN THE THREE GUYS THAT HE IMPLICATES?
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: WELL, NOT QUITE
EVERYBODY. THE ACTOR WHO PLAYED
EDDIE MUNSTER WASN'T SO EASY TO REACH.
>> BUTCH PATRICK HAD TO BE REACHED VIA A PUBLICIST.
>> Reporter: HOLLYWOOD >> RIGHT
HOLLYWOOD. RIGHT.
YEAH SO HE -- HE -- HE WAS OUT AND
ABOUT. BUT WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH BOTH UPTON AND GENTRY >> Reporter: BOTH MEN DENIED THE
BARTENDER'S STORY. JERRY GENTRY SAID HE'D BEEN IN
CALIFORNIA THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER
GARY UPTON SAID HE'D BEEN HOME WHAT'S MORE, THE DETECTIVES
FOUND ZERO EVIDENCE KEN HAD BEEN DEALING DRUGS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD ENDS IN THIS CASE.
>> LOT OF DEAD ENDS. >> Reporter: FOR A WHILE, THE
LEAD ABOUT THE THREE GUYS FROM MONSTER HALL WENT NOWHERE.
UNTIL SEVERAL YEARS LATER, A WOMAN POPPED UP WITH HER OWN
STORY ABOUT ONE OF THOSE GUYS. RAINI, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEARS
ABOUT SITTING HERE TODAY AND TELLING YOUR STORY
>> YES >> Reporter: RAINI IS THE
EX-WIFE OF GARY UPTON, THE GUY WHO WORKED IN THE HAUNTED HOUSE.
SHE SAYS GARY TOLD HER SOMETHING NEARLY EIGHT YEARS AFTER THE
MURDER ACCORDING TO RAINI, GARY SAID HE
WAS THERE AT KEN'S HOUSE WITH SOME OTHER GUYS THE NIGHT KEN
WAS MURDERED >> AND THEY WENT IN THE HOUSE.
AND HE SAYS, "BY THE TIME EVERYTHING WAS DONE, KEN WAS
DEAD HE WAS DEFINITELY DEAD."
>> Reporter: UNLIKE THE BARTENDER'S STORY, HER STORY PUT
KEN'S BUSINESS PARTNER RANDALL LANDWEHR SQUARELY AT THE
CENTER OF THE CRIME. >> RANDALL HAD ASKED GARY
SEVERAL TIMES IF HE WOULD KILL KEN.
AND GARY WOULD CONTINUOUSLY TELL HIM NO
AND HE SAYS, "FINALLY, ONE DAY, I JUST SAID, 'OKAY, I'LL DO
IT.' >> Reporter: SO HE'S, LIKE, A
HITMAN ESSENTIALLY >> YES
>> Reporter: RAINI SAYS GARY TOLD HER TO KEEP QUIET, BUT SHE
EVENTUALLY WORKED UP THE COURAGE TO CALL THE POLICE
>> IT WAS, LIKE, ALMOST A TWO-HOUR INTERVIEW THAT DAY.
>> Reporter: SHE EVEN HANDED OVER A SHOTGUN SHE SAYS SHE
FOUND HIDDEN IN GARY'S BELONGINGS
AND YOU THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE MURDER WEAPON?
>> YES >> Reporter: WAS THIS THE BREAK
EVERYONE HAD BEEN WAITING FOR? >>> COMING UP --
A NEW DETECTIVE WITH NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTOR KNOWN
AS EDDIE MUNSTER AND ABOUT THE WIDOW CINDY.
>> Reporter: YOU THINK SHE'S COMPLETELY ACTING ON THOSE
>> Reporter: THERE WAS A BRAND-NEW WITNESS IN THE
KEN JUEDES MURDER INVESTIGATION, A WOMAN WHO SAID ONE OF THE GUYS
FROM MONSTER HALL TOLD HER HE WAS INVOLVED
AND A MYSTERY SHOTGUN STASHED AWAY IN HIS BELONGINGS
BUT WHEN INVESTIGATORS SAT HIM DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW,
GARY UPTON SAID HIS EX-WIFE RAINI HAD GONE OFF THE RAILS
GARY TOLD THE INVESTIGATORS THAT YOU'RE A LIAR.
YOU MADE UP THE ENTIRE CONFESSION STORY
>> I'M SURE HE DID >> Reporter: NOT ONLY THAT, HE
SAYS THAT YOU WERE PAID OFF TO MAKE ALL THIS UP AND THAT HE HAS
EMAILS TO PROVE IT >> OH, HE SAID THAT?
>> Reporter: DID YOU EVER ACCEPT ANY MONEY FROM ANYONE TO -
>> NO. >> Reporter: -- MAKE UP STORIES
ABOUT GARY >> NO.
>> Reporter: THAT'S A HARSH ACCUSATION HE'S MAKING ABOUT
YOU. >> IF YOU WERE IN THAT PLACE,
YOU'D PROBABLY FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I WAS
LYING ABOUT IT TOO, WOULDN'T YOU?
>> Reporter: AFTER A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH
INVESTIGATORS, RAINI SAYS THEY NEVER CONTACTED HER AGAIN.
THAT GUN SHE FOUND POLICE SAID IT WAS THE WRONG
GAUGE, NOT THE MURDER WEAPON THE CASE SEEMED TO STALL
YEARS PASSED AND KEN'S FAMILY STARTED TO LOSE HOPE
HOW FRUSTRATING WAS IT FOR YOU, MARGARET, THAT ALL THIS TIME WAS
PASSING AND THERE WAS NO ARREST? >> JUST WAS TERRIBLE, YEAH
AT NIGHT YOU'D -- COULDN'T SLEEP VERY WELL.
>> MY MOTHER WAITED EVERY DAY FOR A PHONE CALL FROM THE POLICE
THAT NEVER CAME. >> Reporter: YOUR FAMILY PUT ADS
IN THE NEWSPAPER ON THE ANNIVERSARIES --
>> YES, YES. >> Reporter: -- OF KEN'S DEATH
>> YEP WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
DIDN'T BECOME A DEAD CASE AND THE -- AND THAT -- THAT THEY
WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT. >> Reporter: AND THEN FINALLY,
TEN YEARS AFTER THE MURDER, THE FAMILY GOT A CALL ABOUT A NEW
DETECTIVE. HIS NAME
DENNIS BLASER. >> I HAD A REPUTATION OF LOOKING
AT CASES AND NOT LETTING IT GO UNTIL THERE WAS A RESOLUTION
>> Reporter: HE'D BEEN HANDPICKED BY THE ORIGINAL
DETECTIVES TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THE CASE.
>> I HAD A WHITE BOARD THAT WAS, LIKE, FOUR BY SIX.
AND AT ONE POINT, IT WAS FULL OF PEOPLE THAT I NEEDED TO
INTERVIEW. >> Reporter: AS YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH ALL THESE SUSPECTS, ARE YOU KEEPING EVERYBODY ON THE
TABLE IN THE BEGINNING >> EVERYBODY STARTED ON IT
>> Reporter: DETECTIVE BLASER QUICKLY RULED OUT KEN'S KIDS AND
THE FOSTER KIDS. THAT STILL LEFT A LONG LIST OF
POTENTIAL SUSPECTS -- KEN'S WIDOW, CINDY
THE BUSINESS PARTNER THE BARTENDER.
AND THE THREE MEN THE BARTENDER IMPLICATED IN KEN'S KILLING.
THIS IS REALLY, LIKE, A CENTRAL PART OF THE MURDER
INVESTIGATION, THIS TRACK. >> YES
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE HEADED BACK TO MONSTER HALL
RACEWAY. RANDALL LANDWEHR NO LONGER OWNED
THE TRACK. HE'D MOVED OUT OF STATE.
BUT BLASER FOUND HIS SISTER WHO BACKED UP HIS ALIBI.
>> SHE SAID THAT HE WAS AT HOME WITH HER AND HER KIDS AND THEY
WERE WATCHING MOVIES AT -- THAT NIGHT.
>> Reporter: HOW IMPORTANT WAS THAT TO YOU TO GET THAT PIECE OF
INFORMATION? >> IT'S SOMEBODY WHO WAS ABLE TO
TELL ME WHERE RANDALL WAS AT THE TIME OF THE HOMICIDE
>> Reporter: HE STILL HAD TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THOUGH
DID RANDALL GET SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT?
THE DETECTIVE GOT RANDALL ON THE PHONE.
>> YOU DIDN'T LINE ANYONE UP TO HELP KILL KEN, ANYTHING LIKE
THAT >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
HOW WOULD A PERSON LIVE THEMSELVES
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY.
>> Reporter: BUT WHAT ABOUT BRIAN THE BARTENDER'S STORY OF
DRIVING THREE MEN TO KEN'S HOUSE THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER?
THE BARTENDER TOLD THE DETECTIVE EVERYTHING HE SAID BEFORE WAS A
LIE. HE SAID HE HADN'T EVEN BEEN IN
TOWN THAT NIGHT. >> YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED?
>> NO, I WAS NOT INVOLVED. >> AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO WAS?
>> NO. >> Reporter: WHY MAKE IT UP
THOUGH WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOURSELF AT A
SCENE OF A CRIME THAT YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED IN?
>> WE TALK A LOT OF TIMES ABOUT PEOPLE NOT MAKING SENSE.
BRIAN DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC TRYING TO GET
OUT OF A FELONY OWI CHARGE >> Reporter: DID BRIAN HAVE A
DECENT ALIBI >> NOT THAT I COULD EVER PROVE
NONE OF THESE PEOPLE I COULD PROVE.
>> Reporter: THERE WERE NO RECORDS TO PROVE CALIFORNIA
JERRY WAS IN CALIFORNIA. AND AS FOR THE ACTOR WHO ONCE
PLAYED EDDIE MUNSTER >> I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS AS
INFORMAL AS I CAN, SIR >> Reporter: DETECTIVE BLASER
SURPRISED THE ACTOR AT A WISCONSIN CAR SHOW
HE SAID HE COULDN'T REMEMBER WHERE HE'D BEEN THE NIGHT OF THE
MURDER >> OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T THERE.
BUT I TRAVEL SO MUCH IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT AN EXACT
DATE NINE OR TEN YEARS AGO >> Reporter: HE SAID HIS OLD
PROMOTER MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP BUT INSTEAD OF BACKING HIM UP,
THE PROMOTER TOLD THE DETECTIVE SHE WAS PRETTY SURE HE'D BEEN IN
WISCONSIN AROUND THE TIME OF THE MURDER
>> DID HE ADMIT TO YOU A ALL THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN
THIS >> I'M GOING TO SAY NO COMMENT
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE COULDN'T FIND ANY RECORDS TO
PROVE WHERE THE ACTOR HAD ACTUALLY BEEN.
FINALLY DETECTIVE BLASER HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH
RAINI, GARY UPTON'S EX-WIFE. HE LISTENED TO THE PREVIOUS
INVESTIGATORS' INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH HER AND UPTON
>> WHAT'S RAINI GOT HER TEETH OUT AGAINST YOU SO MUCH FOR?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HER DEAL IS
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A BAD MARRIAGE
>> Reporter: BLASER DECIDED RAINI WASN'T CREDIBLE.
HE BELIEVED SHE WAS JUST SORE ABOUT A BAD BREAK-UP
HE DIDN'T EVEN INTERVIEW HER WHY DIDN'T YOU INTERVIEW HER IF
YOU'RE TAKING A NEW LOOK AT THE CASE WHEN -- DON'T YOU THINK
THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO?
>> FROM WATCHING THE INTERVIEW THAT DCI DID WITH HER -- I
WATCHED IT MULTIPLE TIMES IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
>> Reporter: FOR THE RECORD, RAINI SAYS THAT SHE IS
100% TELLING THE TRUTH AND THAT THIS WAS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
REVENGE OR A GRUDGE. SHE WAS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING. >> BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
RAINI WAS TELLING THE TRUTH. >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVE WAS
FAR MORE INTERESTED IN ANOTHER WOMAN IN THE CASE FILE
ANOTHER WOMAN HE THOUGHT WAS LYING.
KEN'S WIDOW, CINDY IN FACT, HE BELIEVED THE VERY
FIRST WORDS OUT OF HER MOUTH ABOUT KEN'S DEATH HAD BEEN LIES.
YOU THINK SHE'S COMPLETELY ACTING ON THE 911 CALLS.
>> YES YES.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW HE DIDN'T GO TO WORK
I JUST SAW HIS CAR >> Reporter: SOUNDS QUITE
FRANTIC. >> EVERYTHING IN THERE IS ABOUT
CINDY. "I, I, I
I FOUND MY HUSBAND." IT'S NOT ABOUT ASKING FOR HELP
FOR KEN. >> Reporter: HE THOUGHT CINDY'S
DESCRIPTION OF HOW SHE'D FOUND KEN'S BODY WAS JUST AS FISHY
>> SHE SAID WHEN SHE GOT UP IN THE MORNING, SHE WENT INTO THE
HOUSE AND SHE WENT TO THE BATHROOM
>> Reporter: CINDY TOLD DETECTIVES SHE WALKED THROUGH
THE HOUSE TO GET TO THE BATHROOM, THEN BACK INTO THE
LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN BEFORE FINALLY HEADING TO THE BEDROOM
BUT WHEN THE DETECTIVE MAPPED OUT HER ROUTE, IT DIDN'T MAKE
SENSE TO HIM >> THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE IS TO
COME INTO THE HOUSE AND MAKE A RIGHT TURN GO THROUGH THE
BEDROOM INTO THE MASTER BATH BUT THEN SHE WOULD'VE HAD TO
WALK RIGHT PAST KEN. >> Reporter: SHE WOULD HAVE SEEN
KEN RIGHT AWAY >> AS SOON AS SHE WALKED IN THE
BEDROOM DOOR >> Reporter: TOO HARD TO MISS,
IN YOUR OPINION, IF SHE CAME IN FROM THE CAMPER?
>> YES IT IS VERY OBVIOUS
>> Reporter: BUT THE CLINCHER FOR THE DETECTIVE WAS THIS
CERTAIN THINGS HAD TO BE IN PLACE FOR THE MURDER TO HAPPEN
THAT ONLY CINDY WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT.
KEN, USUALLY SO CONSCIOUS OF SECURITY, HAD LEFT ALL THE DOORS
UNLOCKED A HOUSE OFTEN FULL OF FOSTER
KIDS WAS EMPTY THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS WERE
SWITCHED OFF AND IT TURNS OUT KEN WASN'T JUST
NAKED. HE WAS PASSED OUT DRUNK ON HIS
BED, UNABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF. >> TO HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS
LINE UP, SHE HAD TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT
>> Reporter: IT HAD BEEN YEARS SINCE INVESTIGATORS HAD SPOKEN
TO CINDY SO DETECTIVE BLASER PICKED UP
THE PHONE AND CALLED HER >> WOULD I BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN
AND TALK WITH YOU? >> I SUPPOSED YOU COULD, YEAH.
>>> COMING UP -- >> WHEN THEY SAID THEY WERE
COMING, CINDY WAS JUST SO EXCITED.
"FINALLY FINALLY THEY'RE GOING TO DO
SOMETHING. >> CINDY'S EXCITEMENT WOULD NOT
LAST LONG. >> YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE I
COULD HAVE DONE THAT >> OH, DEFINITELY.
>> Reporter: CINDY'S LIFE HAD CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE
YEARS SINCE THE MURDER SHE'D SOLD KEN'S FARMHOUSE,
MOVED IN WITH HER DAUGHTER, AND WRITTEN A NOVEL IN WHICH A
HUSBAND COVERS UP THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE
THE TITLE? "SPIDER LAKE."
BUT PAM SAYS KEN WAS NEVER FAR FROM HER SISTER'S MIND
>> WHEN THEY SAID THEY WERE COMING TO INTERVIEW HER, CINDY
WAS JUST SO EXCITED. BECAUSE SHE SAID, "FINALLY
FINALLY THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO FIND WHO KILLED MY
KENNY. >> WHERE ARE WE GOING?
>> IN MY KITCHEN >> Reporter: DETECTIVE BLASER
AND HIS PARTNER MET CINDY AT HER HOUSE.
THEY ASKED HER TO TELL HER STORY ONE MORE TIME.
SHE DESCRIBED THOSE TERRIBLE HEADACHES AND KEN TUCKING HER
INTO BED IN THE CAMPER TO SLEEP. >> HE SAID, "MAKE SURE YOU TAKE
YOUR MEDS AND TAKE EVERYTHING THAT I PUT OUT SO," I WAS REALLY
MEDICATED. >> Reporter: SHE SAID THE
SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS WERE SWITCHED OFF, BUT THAT WAS
NORMAL >> HE'D ALWAYS WANT IT OFF
BECAUSE THE HUMMING WAS SO LOUD. >> Reporter: IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG
FOR HER TO POINT HER FINGER YET AGAIN AT KEN'S KIDS.
AND NOT JUST THE KIDS. >> WELL, I THINK THAT ALEX
PROBABLY HAD THE GUN BUT I THINK THERE WAS MORE THAN
ONE INVOLVED AND I KNOW THAT BETTY -- WELL,
FOR ONE THING, I KNOW THAT BETTY JUEDES, HIS MOTHER, PUT
THAT IDEA IN HIS HEAD. AND LAURIE RENNE, KEN'S SISTER,
HATED KEN. >> DO YOU KNOW WHO SHOT KEN?
>> I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS - >> LET'S JUST GO YES OR NO
DO YOU KNOW WHO SHOT KEN >> NO, NOT POSITIVELY.
>> DID YOU SHOOT KEN >> NO, I DID NOT
NO >> Reporter: HOW DOES SHE FEEL
AS YOU'RE KIND OF PUSHING BACK >> IT GOT PRETTY CONTENTIOUS
DURING THE COURSE OF THE INTERVIEW.
>> DO YOU THINK I'M LYING? >> I'M ON THE FENCE.
>> YOU'RE ON THE FENCE SO YOU THINK THAT IT'S POSSIBLE
THAT I COULD HAVE DONE THAT? >> OH, DEFINITELY.
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES SUGGESTED CINDY MIGHT HAVE SHOT
KEN DURING AN ARGUMENT SHE SAID THEY NEVER FOUGHT
>> SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON.
THERE'S THREATS OF LAWSUITS AND LOSING MONEY
AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT
AND YET YOU GUYS NEVER BICKERED. TEMPERS NEVER GOT FLARED
NOBODY EVER GOT UPSET. >> NOPE, NOPE.
>> I'M GONNA -- I'M GONNA CALL [ BLEEP ]
>> YOU'RE GONNA CALL ME -- >> I'M GONNA CALL -- ON THAT
>> YOU'RE GONNA CALL ME A LIAR >> Reporter: IS SHE ASKING FOR A
LAWYER IS SHE TELLING YOU, "OKAY, YOU
CAN GO NOW?" >> NO.
>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES PRESSED CINDY AGAIN AND AGAIN TO
GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
>> I WANT YOU TO TELL US - >> YOU WANT ME TO MAKE UP A
STORY. >> I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE UP A
STORY. >> KEN WAS DRUNK AND I GRABBED A
GUN AND I SHOT HIM >> IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED
>> HA! -- NO.
>> THEN WHAT HAPPENED? >> I WENT TO BED
I WOKE UP TO A DEAD HUSBAND. WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT?
>> Reporter: AFTER SEVEN HOURS OF TALKING, CINDY ASKED THE
DETECTIVES TO LEAVE. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS
BETWEEN -- AT THIS POINT, THIS IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD.
>> AND I'M GOOD WITH GOD >> AND KEN
>> AND I'M GOOD WITH KEN >> Reporter: THE INTERVIEW
PRODUCED FIREWORKS BUT NO SMOKING GUN.
EVEN SO, THE DETECTIVE SHARED EVERYTHING HE HAD WITH MARATHON
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY THERESA WETZSTEON.
YOU DECIDED AFTER THAT FINAL INTERVIEW WITH CINDY THAT YOU
WOULD GO AHEAD AND PRESS CHARGES.
WHAT WAS THE TIPPING POINT THAT YOU FINALLY SAID, "AFTER ALL
THESE YEARS, LET'S GO GET HER" >> AT THAT POINT, I FELT THAT
THE DETECTIVES HAD DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD DO.
THIS WAS THE CASE. THIS WAS AS GOOD AS IT WAS GONNA
GET. WITNESSES WERE GETTING OLDER
MEMORIES WERE FAILING. SO IT WAS TIME
IT WAS TIME TO BRING IT FORTH. >> Reporter: SHE SENT DETECTIVE
BLASER TO ARREST CINDY AT HOME WHAT'S HER LOOK ON HER FACE WHEN
YOU KNOCK ON THE DOOR AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, AND YOU'VE GOT THE
CUFFS? >> SHE KEPT SAYING THAT I DIDN'T
DO THIS. I DIDN'T SHOOT MY HUSBAND.
>> Reporter: HOW SURPRISED WAS SHE?
>> LET'S JUST SAY SH DOESN'T LIKE ME VERY WELL.
>> DENNIS SENT US A PICTURE OF HER MUGSHOT OF BEING BOOKED INTO
THE MARATHON COUNTY JAIL SO WE WERE HAPPY
WE WERE ALL VERY, VERY HAPPY >> AND FINALLY IT WAS A SENSE OF
RELIEF THAT THIS WAS -- WAS HAPPENING.
>> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR WASN'T READY TO CELEBRATE JUST
YET. SHE KNEW HER CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE
WAS NO SLAM DUNK THERE WERE PLENTY OF ALTERNATE
SUSPECTS WITH SHAKY ALIBIS THE DEFENSE COULD POINT TO
SO SHE CHARGED CINDY NOT WITH PULLING THE TRIGGER HERSELF, BUT
WITH BEING PARTY TO THE MURDER ARE YOU ESSENTIALLY SAYING YOU
DON'T KNOW IF CINDY ACTED ALONE? >> I AM SAYING THAT I DON'T KNOW
IF CINDY ACTED ALONE, YES. >> Reporter: BUT WHEN CINDY'S
MURDER TRIAL OPENED AT THE MARATHON COUNTY COURTHOUSE
15 YEARS AFTER KEN'S DEATH, THE PROSECUTOR HAD ONE SOLE FOCUS --
CINDY. >> THE DEFENDANT HAD FOUND
HERSELF THE GOOSE THAT LAID THE GOLDEN EGG
>> Reporter: GREED HAD DRIVEN CINDY TO KILL, THE PROSECUTOR
TOLD THE JURY. SHE SAID CINDY HAD BEEN
ATTRACTED TO KEN FOR HIS PHARMACIST'S INCOME AND THAT
BEAUTIFUL FARM BUT EVEN THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.
>> SHE GREW IMPATIENT. SHE KNEW THE GOLDEN EGG'S REAL
WEALTH, $1.2 MILLION, WASN'T HERS UNTIL KEN WAS DEAD.
>> Reporter: AND THEN THE PROSECUTOR CALLED WITNESSES TO
SHOW HOW CINDY HAD METHODICALLY STACKED UP INSURANCE POLICY ON
TOP OF INSURANCE POLICY. >> THIS ONE IS JUST A FLAT FEE
$280,000 IF THE DEATH OCCURRED >> THE AMOUNT OF THE COVERAGE
WAS $301,000 >> Reporter: FIVE POLICIES THAT
ADDED UP TO NEARLY $1 MILLION. THROW IN THE PROPERTY CINDY
INHERITED FROM KEN, SHE STOOD TO MAKE A FORTUNE FROM HIS DEATH.
AND CONTRARY TO WHAT CINDY TOLD INVESTIGATORS, THE PROSECUTOR
SAID THERE WAS TENSION IN THE MARRIAGE OVER MONEY.
THE NEIGHBOR LAURIE FOUND? HE TOLD THE JURY HE OVERHEARD
CINDY PUSHING KEN TO SELL SOME LAND
>> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID SHE SAY THEY NEEDED TO SELL THE LAND
FOR? >> THEY NEEDED MONEY
>> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR ARGUED THIS IS WHY CINDY HAD SET
IN MOTION A MURDER ONLY SHE COULD HAVE PULLED OFF.
>> THE ONLY ONE TO KNOW THAT THE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WAS OFF, THE
DOORS WERE UNLOCKED, THE FOSTER CHILDREN WOULD NOT BE THERE, WAS
THE DEFENDANT. >> Reporter: AND IF IT WAS HARD
TO BELIEVE THAT CINDY COULD BE COLD ENOUGH TO SHOOT HER HUSBAND
TWICE AT CLOSE RANGE, THE PROSECUTOR ASKED THE JURY TO
LISTEN TO HIS MOTHER, MARGARET >> HOW OLD ARE YOU, MS. JUEDES
>> 102 >> Reporter: DID YOU LOOK AT
CINDY IN THE COURTROOM >> NOT DIRECTLY.
BECAUSE SHE SAT ON THE SIDE, AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE JURY, YOU
KNOW, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO >> Reporter: MARGARET TOLD THE
JURY HOW NICE CINDY SEEMED BEFORE KEN'S DEATH
AFTERWARDS SHE WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON
>> I ASKED HER IF WE COULD HAVE THE BODY BACK SO WE COULD HAVE A
CHRISTIAN BURIAL AND SHE SAID NO.
SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH CINDY ABOUT HAVING ANY OF YOUR
SON'S REMAINS GIVEN TO YOU >> YES, BUT SHE SAID NO.
>> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR PLAYED A PLEADING VOICEMAIL
MARGARET LEFT CINDY. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DON'T
GIVE ME A CALL BACK. MAYBE YOU WOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT
WHO MURDERED HIM THAN WE DO. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL BACK
>> Reporter: CINDY DIDN'T. FINALLY THE PROSECUTOR DIRECTED
THE JURY TO TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OF THE FIRST CLUES DETECTIVES
FOUND AT THE SCENE THAT NOTE LEFT ON CINDY'S
PILLOW SHE ASKED THEM TO CONSIDER WHO
HAD WRITTEN IT >> THERE WERE NOTES ON THE
MIRROR THAT WERE ACTUALLY AFFECTIONATE NOTES THAT CINDY
SCHULZ-JUEDES HAD PRETTY CLEARLY STATED WERE FROM KEN TO HER.
AND THERE WAS A VERY DISTINCT WAY OF WRITING A "B" THAT LOOKED
LIKE THE NUMBER 6. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR TOLD
THE JURY TO CHECK THE "B" ON THE NOTE FOUND NEXT TO KEN'S BODY.
COULD KEN HAVE WRITTEN THAT TOO? THE DETECTIVE CERTAINLY THOUGHT
SO >> MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT
KEN AND CINDY WERE ARGUING THERE WAS A NOTE STABBED INTO
THE PILLOW ON HER SIDE OF THE BED.
I THINK THAT KEN JUST HAD ENOUGH THAT DAY
AND WHEN CINDY CAME IN AND SAW THE NOTE IN THE BED, SHE HAD
ENOUGH AND SHE JUST WENT AND GOT A SHOTGUN AND SHOT HER HUSBAND
>> YOUR HONOR, THE DEFENSE CALLS CINDY SCHULZ-JUEDES TO THE
STAND. >> Reporter: BUT NOW IT WAS
CINDY'S TURN TO TELL HER STORY TO THE JURY.
AND SHE WAS READY. >>> COMING UP --
>> I DIDN'T KILL MY HUSBAND. AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT, I
GUESS, WHO DID >> CINDY ON THE STAND.
AND THE OTHER SUSPECTS TOO WHO WOULD THE JURY BELIEVE
>> Reporter: PAM EWER SAYS THE PICTURE THE PROSECUTOR PAINTED
OF HER SISTER AS A MONEY HUNGRY MURDERER WAS PLAIN WRONG
SHE SAYS KEN WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED ALL THOSE INSURANCE
POLICIES, NOT CINDY. >> CINDY WASN'T PLANNING FOR KEN
TO DIE CINDY WANTED HER HUSBAND
CINDY WASN'T LOOKING FOR MONEY >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR SAID
THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO COULD'VE LINED EVERYTHING UP
PERFECTLY, YOU KNOW, TO -- TO COMMIT THIS MURDER AND THAT WAS
CINDY. YOU KNOW, SHE HAD THE MOTIVE AND
THE MEANS TO PULL THIS OFF >> WHAT DO I SAY TO THAT
SOMEBODY PLANNED IT. AND IT WASN'T MY SISTER.
BELIEVE ME >> Reporter: SOMEONE ELSE DID
IT THAT WAS THE CRUX OF CINDY'S
DEFENSE IN COURT TOO >> THERE WAS A MAN AT THE
CAMPGROUND NAMED BRIAN THAT WAS TELLING PEOPLE THERE THAT HE WAS
THE DRIVER OF A GETAWAY CAR. >> Reporter: CINDY'S DEFENSE
ATTORNEY, EARL GRAY, CALLED ONE OF THE CAMPERS WHO'D HEARD
BRIAN'S STORIES TO THE STAND >> HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS THE
GETAWAY DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE. >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE
ATTORNEY ALSO CALLED BRIAN THE BARTENDER.
IT WAS SOMETHING THE PROSECUTOR HAD EXPECTED AND
PLANNED FOR. AND IT'S WHY SHE MADE A BOLD
DECISION BEFORE TRIAL. YOU DECIDED TO GIVE THESE MEN
IMMUNITY >> UH-HUH.
>> Reporter: WHAT WAS THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT SINCE YOU WEREN'T
EVEN SURE IF THEY WERE INVOLVED? >> BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE TRUTH
>> Reporter: IMMUNITY MEANT THE PROSECUTOR COULD NOT CRIMINALLY
CHARGE THE MEN FOR ANY SECRETS THEY REVEALED ON THE WITNESS
STAND. BRIAN THE BARTENDER DIDN'T
REVEAL MUCH. HE DENIED BEING INVOLVED IN THE
MURDER HE EVEN DENIED TELLING SOME OF
THOSE STORIES. >> DID YOU TELL HIM ANYTHING
ABOUT THE MURDER OF KEN JUEDES >> NO.
>> Reporter: RAINI'S EX, GARY UPTON, ALSO DENIED BEING
PART OF ANY MURDER PLOT. HE DID ADMIT TO KNOWING CINDY.
>> DID YOU EVER CALL HER A BITCH?
>> POSSIBLY. >> Reporter: BUTCH PATRICK WAS
ADAMANT TOO. HE DIDN'T KILL KEN
BUT THE DEFENSE ASKED HIM WHAT PROOF HE HAD
>> THE ONLY PROOF THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU WEREN'T HERE IS ZERO,
CORRECT? YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHERE YOU
WERE ON THE DAY OF THE SHOOTING, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES >> Reporter: THEN THERE WAS THIS
DEFENSE WITNESS, A FRIEND OF KEN'S, WHO SAID A FEW DAYS
BEFORE THE MURDER, KEN WAS AFRAID NOT OF HIS WIFE BUT
SOMETHING AT THE RACETRACK SO AFRAID, HE TOLD THE JURY,
THAT KEN ASKED HIM TO GO THERE WITH HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT
TO GO ALONE. >> I OBSERVED HE WAS VERY
NERVOUS AND LOOKING AROUND A LOT MORE THAN HE USUALLY DID
>> Reporter: AND IN CASE THE JURY WAS WONDERING IF CINDY AND
THE GUYS FROM MONSTER HALL WERE IN IT TOGETHER, THE DEFENSE SAID
THERE WAS NO PROOF SHE CONSPIRED WITH THEM OR ANYONE ELSE
THEN IT CAME TIME FOR CINDY TO TAKE THE STAND
>> I SAW KEN ON THE BED. >> AND WHAT DID YOU DO
DID YOU DO ANYTHING? >> I REMEMBER MAKING MY WAY TO
THE PHONE. AND THEN AS I'M LOOKING AT -- AT
KEN TRYING TO USE THE PHONE, I FELT LIKE I WAS FLOATING ABOVE
HIM, LOOKING DOWN. AND I COULD HEAR SCREAMING
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS ME
>> Reporter: AND SHE EXPLAINED SHE'D DONE HER BEST TO HELP
DETECTIVES, TALKING TO THEM WHENEVER THEY NEEDED HER
>> WHY DID YOU AGREE TO ALL THESE INTERVIEWS
>> BECAUSE I DIDN'T KILL MY HUSBAND AND I WANTED TO FIND
OUT, I GUESS, WHO DID. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR
POUNCED ON CINDY IN A TESTY CROSS-EXAMINATION.
>> YOU DO NOT ADMINISTER ANY AID WHATSOEVER, CORRECT?
>> THE FIRST RULE OF CPR - >> YOUR HONOR, I'D ASK THAT SHE
ANSWER THE QUESTION. YES OR NO?
>> ALL RIGHT ANSWER THE QUESTION, PLEASE.
>> I DID NOT ADMINISTER FIRST AID, NO.
>> WHEN YOU OPENED THE DOOR TO THE BEDROOM FROM THAT BATHROOM,
WHAT DID YOU SEE >> I THINK YOU'VE ASKED ME ABOUT
THIS BEFORE, AND I'VE ANSWERED IT BEFORE.
SO ASKED AND ANSWERED. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR
ASKED CINDY HOW SHE COULD HAVE SLEPT THROUGH THE MURDER
THE CAMPER WAS PARKED JUST STEPS FROM THE HOUSE
>> I THINK THE VOLUME OF THE INCONSISTENCIES WAS COMPELLING
YOU DIDN'T HEAR TWO SHOTGUN BLASTS
>> NO. >> YOU SAID YOU'RE A LIGHT
SLEEPER, CORRECT >> ORDINARILY, YES
>> BUT NOT THAT NIGHT? >> I WAS MEDICATED
>> AND THE MEDICATION THAT YOU SAY YOU TOOK ALLOWED YOU TO
SLEEP SO SOUNDLY THAT YOU SLEPT THROUGH TWO SHOTGUN BLASTS
>> OBJECTION THAT IS ARGUMENTATIVE.
>> Reporter: AFTER NEARLY SIX HOURS OF TESTIMONY, CINDY WALKED
BACK TO THE DEFENSE TABLE. IT WAS TIME FOR THE JURY TO TAKE
THE CASE THEN AFTER 4 1/2 HOURS OF
DELIBERATION, A VERDICT. >> WE, THE JURY, AS FOR OUR
VERDICT, FIND THE DEFENDANT CINDY SCHULZ- JUEDES GUILTY OF
FIRST-DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE AS A PARTY TO A CRIME
>> Reporter: WHAT'S THAT MOMENT LIKE
>> AH, IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
WE WERE -- EVERYBODY WAS HUGGING EACH OTHER
>> Reporter: AT THE SENTENCING, DON READ A LETTER WRITTEN BY HIS
MOTHER >> WERE IT NOT FOR CINDY'S
ACTIONS, KEN WOULD NOW BE 74 YEARS OLD, STILL PROVIDING
ASSISTANCE TO ME AND ENJOYING THE BEST YEARS OF HIS LIFE
>> Reporter: WAS THAT SO PAINFUL FOR YOU, READING THAT ON BEHALF
OF YOUR MOM IN THAT COURTROOM? >> IT WAS SAD THAT I HAD TO --
THAT I HAD TO DO IT, YES >> Reporter: THE JUDGE SENTENCED
CINDY TO LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO HER
NOW? >> YOU'RE A BEAST, CINDY
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
>> Reporter: CINDY HAS NEW LAWYERS WHO ARE WORKING ON HER
APPEAL >> THE TRUTH IS GOING TO COME
OUT. THE TRUTH IS GOING TO COME OUT
>> Reporter: SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU'RE JUST
BLINDLY SUPPORTING HER, YOU'RE NAIVE?
>> NO. THEY'RE WRONG.
>> Reporter: YOU THINK THE REAL
KILLER AND ACCOMPLICES ARE WALKING AROUND FREE?
>> OH, THE LIARS YES, THEY ARE.
>> Reporter: PAM ISN'T THE ONLY PERSON TO THINK THAT THE WHOLE
STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED AT DILL CREEK FARM IS YET TO BE TOLD
THE OTHER SISTER IN THIS STORY, KEN'S KID SISTER LAURIE, SAYS
SHE'S CONVINCED CINDY DIDN'T ACT ALONE.
AND SHE'S NOT DONE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.
YOU FEEL LIKE SOMEONE GOT AWAY WITH MURDER.
>> YES, I DO >> Reporter: THE REST OF KEN'S
FAMILY SAYS JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR
PEACE, FINDING IT IN THEIR MEMORIES OF KEN -- A BROTHER, A
DAD, A SON A MAN WITH A GENTLE SMILE AND
BIG DREAMS WHO FOR A BRIEF MOMENT IN TIME CREATED HIS OWN
LITTLE HEAVEN AT THE END OF A WISCONSIN COUNTRY ROAD
>>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "DATELINE."
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