1 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:17,683 >> PEOPLE STARTED REACHING OUT TO ME, AND THEY'RE LIKE, "DID 2 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:19,251 TO ME, AND THEY'RE LIKE, "DID YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED AT 3 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:20,319 YOU HEAR WHAT HAPPENED AT CONNIE'S HOUSE?" 4 00:00:20,321 --> 00:00:22,421 CONNIE'S HOUSE?" >> WE HEARD IT WAS A BREAK-IN. 5 00:00:22,423 --> 00:00:23,489 >> WE HEARD IT WAS A BREAK-IN. >> IT WAS AN ALARMING SCENE. 6 00:00:23,491 --> 00:00:26,125 >> IT WAS AN ALARMING SCENE. HE WAS IN THE KITCHEN, BOUND TO 7 00:00:26,127 --> 00:00:30,362 HE WAS IN THE KITCHEN, BOUND TO A FOLDING CHAIR, MOANING 8 00:00:30,364 --> 00:00:34,500 A FOLDING CHAIR, MOANING SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE BASEMENT 9 00:00:34,502 --> 00:00:36,835 SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE BASEMENT DRESSED IN WORKOUT GEAR. 10 00:00:36,837 --> 00:00:38,270 DRESSED IN WORKOUT GEAR. THERE WAS AN OBVIOUS SIGN OF 11 00:00:38,272 --> 00:00:39,338 THERE WAS AN OBVIOUS SIGN OF GUNSHOT WOUND TO HER 12 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:40,939 GUNSHOT WOUND TO HER >> IT WAS, LIKE, A SICK FEELING. 13 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:42,007 >> IT WAS, LIKE, A SICK FEELING. CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE IT. 14 00:00:42,009 --> 00:00:43,075 CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE IT. >> THERE'S THIS BIG MYSTERY IN 15 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:44,743 >> THERE'S THIS BIG MYSTERY IN TOWN 16 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:45,711 TOWN WHO CAME IN AND DID THIS 17 00:00:45,713 --> 00:00:46,779 WHO CAME IN AND DID THIS >> WE HAD UNIDENTIFIED DNA IN 18 00:00:46,781 --> 00:00:47,846 >> WE HAD UNIDENTIFIED DNA IN SIX KEY PLACES 19 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:49,181 SIX KEY PLACES >> Reporter: A LOT OF 20 00:00:49,183 --> 00:00:50,482 >> Reporter: A LOT OF INFORMATION STARTED COMING OUT, 21 00:00:50,484 --> 00:00:52,084 INFORMATION STARTED COMING OUT, INCLUDING A BIG BOMBSHELL. 22 00:00:52,086 --> 00:00:52,584 INCLUDING A BIG BOMBSHELL. >> UNBELIEVABLE. 23 00:00:52,586 --> 00:00:54,686 >> UNBELIEVABLE. >> Reporter: SHE REALLY BECAME 24 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:55,220 >> Reporter: SHE REALLY BECAME ONE OF YOUR KEY WITNESSES. 25 00:00:55,222 --> 00:00:56,255 ONE OF YOUR KEY WITNESSES. >> SHE WAS NOT A WILLING 26 00:00:56,257 --> 00:00:57,289 >> SHE WAS NOT A WILLING WITNESS. 27 00:00:57,291 --> 00:00:58,390 WITNESS. IT WAS DIFFICULT 28 00:00:58,392 --> 00:00:59,458 IT WAS DIFFICULT >> Reporter: YOU TOOK A NUMBER 29 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:00,526 >> Reporter: YOU TOOK A NUMBER OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES FROM THE 30 00:01:00,528 --> 00:01:01,560 OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES FROM THE HOUSE. 31 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:02,628 HOUSE. >> WE TOOK THE FITBIT 32 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:03,695 >> WE TOOK THE FITBIT TRANSMITTER OFF OF HER BODY. 33 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:04,997 TRANSMITTER OFF OF HER BODY. >> Reporter: IT WAS THE SILENT 34 00:01:04,999 --> 00:01:05,831 >> Reporter: IT WAS THE SILENT WITNESS. 35 00:01:05,833 --> 00:01:06,832 WITNESS. >> CORRECT 36 00:01:06,834 --> 00:01:07,833 >> CORRECT DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS POWERFUL 37 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:09,468 DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS POWERFUL >> Reporter: THIS WAS A BIG 38 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:10,536 >> Reporter: THIS WAS A BIG TWIST THAT YOU WERE NOT 39 00:01:10,538 --> 00:01:11,603 TWIST THAT YOU WERE NOT EXPECTING. 40 00:01:11,605 --> 00:01:12,638 EXPECTING. >> NO. 41 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,307 >> NO. >> IT'S DEVASTATION. 42 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:16,542 >> IT'S DEVASTATION. IT'S BETRAYAL. 43 00:01:16,544 --> 00:01:17,609 IT'S BETRAYAL. HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? 44 00:01:17,611 --> 00:01:18,644 HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? >> MY JAW ALMOST DROPPED TO THE 45 00:01:18,646 --> 00:01:19,678 >> MY JAW ALMOST DROPPED TO THE FLOOR. 46 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,280 FLOOR. I KEPT THINKING, "OH, MY GOD." 47 00:01:21,282 --> 00:01:22,314 I KEPT THINKING, "OH, MY GOD." >> A FITBIT CAPTURED THE LAST 48 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:22,915 >> A FITBIT CAPTURED THE LAST MOMENTS OF A LOVING MOM'S LIFE 49 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:24,183 MOMENTS OF A LOVING MOM'S LIFE YOU'LL SEE HOW IT ALSO HELPED 50 00:01:24,185 --> 00:01:24,983 YOU'LL SEE HOW IT ALSO HELPED INVESTIGATORS CATCH HER KILLER 51 00:01:24,985 --> 00:01:27,586 INVESTIGATORS CATCH HER KILLER I'M LESTER HOLT, AND THIS IS 52 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:27,853 I'M LESTER HOLT, AND THIS IS "DATELINE. 53 00:01:27,855 --> 00:01:37,296 "DATELINE. ♪ 54 00:01:37,298 --> 00:01:38,964 ♪ ♪ 55 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:45,137 ♪ HERE'S ANDREA CANNING WITH "THE 56 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:46,205 HERE'S ANDREA CANNING WITH "THE SECRETS OF BIRCH VIEW DRIVE. 57 00:01:46,207 --> 00:01:48,841 SECRETS OF BIRCH VIEW DRIVE. >> Reporter: BIRCH VIEW DRIVE 58 00:01:48,843 --> 00:01:49,875 >> Reporter: BIRCH VIEW DRIVE WAS A QUIET STREET IN A QUIET 59 00:01:49,877 --> 00:01:50,909 WAS A QUIET STREET IN A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD IN A QUIET 60 00:01:50,911 --> 00:01:54,113 NEIGHBORHOOD IN A QUIET CONNECTICUT TOWN CALLED 61 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:55,514 CONNECTICUT TOWN CALLED ELLINGTON. 62 00:01:55,516 --> 00:01:56,782 ELLINGTON. IT WAS ALSO HOME TO THREE 63 00:01:56,784 --> 00:01:58,383 IT WAS ALSO HOME TO THREE BOISTEROUS FRIENDS 64 00:01:58,385 --> 00:01:59,952 BOISTEROUS FRIENDS DARLENE BEAUDRY, PEGGY GIOTSAS, 65 00:01:59,954 --> 00:02:01,186 DARLENE BEAUDRY, PEGGY GIOTSAS, AND CONNIE DABATE. 66 00:02:01,188 --> 00:02:02,087 AND CONNIE DABATE. YOU ALL LIVED SO CLOSE TO EACH 67 00:02:02,089 --> 00:02:03,122 YOU ALL LIVED SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. 68 00:02:03,124 --> 00:02:04,389 OTHER. >> YEAH, WE DID. 69 00:02:04,391 --> 00:02:05,257 >> YEAH, WE DID. WE DID 70 00:02:05,259 --> 00:02:06,792 WE DID >> WE DO 71 00:02:06,794 --> 00:02:07,893 >> WE DO THAT'S MY HOUSE OVER THERE 72 00:02:07,895 --> 00:02:09,428 THAT'S MY HOUSE OVER THERE >> THAT'S MY HOUSE THERE 73 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:10,529 >> THAT'S MY HOUSE THERE AND CONNIE LIVED RIGHT BACK 74 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:11,597 AND CONNIE LIVED RIGHT BACK THERE. 75 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:13,699 THERE. >> Reporter: CLOSE HOUSES, EVEN 76 00:02:13,701 --> 00:02:14,733 >> Reporter: CLOSE HOUSES, EVEN CLOSER FRIENDS 77 00:02:14,735 --> 00:02:16,468 CLOSER FRIENDS CONNIE ALWAYS KNEW HOW TO MAKE 78 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:19,004 CONNIE ALWAYS KNEW HOW TO MAKE HERSELF AT HOME. 79 00:02:19,006 --> 00:02:20,038 HERSELF AT HOME. >> MY FAVORITE THING THAT SHE 80 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,073 >> MY FAVORITE THING THAT SHE DID IS SHE WOULD -- BACK THEN, 81 00:02:21,075 --> 00:02:22,674 DID IS SHE WOULD -- BACK THEN, WE WOULD ALWAYS LEAVE THE GARAGE 82 00:02:22,676 --> 00:02:23,709 WE WOULD ALWAYS LEAVE THE GARAGE DOORS OPEN 83 00:02:23,711 --> 00:02:25,277 DOORS OPEN SO SHE'D COME THROUGH THE 84 00:02:25,279 --> 00:02:26,378 SO SHE'D COME THROUGH THE GARAGE 85 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:27,412 GARAGE SHE'D SAY, "HONEY, I'M HOME. 86 00:02:27,414 --> 00:02:28,480 SHE'D SAY, "HONEY, I'M HOME. [ LAUGHTER ] 87 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:30,449 [ LAUGHTER ] >> YEAH. 88 00:02:30,451 --> 00:02:31,083 >> YEAH. >> AND THEN, JUST LIKE PEGGY DID 89 00:02:31,085 --> 00:02:31,683 >> AND THEN, JUST LIKE PEGGY DID TODAY, SHE WOULD JUST -- SHE'D 90 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:33,619 TODAY, SHE WOULD JUST -- SHE'D JUST WALK RIGHT IN 91 00:02:33,621 --> 00:02:34,786 JUST WALK RIGHT IN THERE WAS NO KNOCKING. 92 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:35,854 THERE WAS NO KNOCKING. THERE WAS -- SHE'D JUST THROW 93 00:02:35,856 --> 00:02:37,156 THERE WAS -- SHE'D JUST THROW THE DOOR OPEN. 94 00:02:37,158 --> 00:02:37,756 THE DOOR OPEN. >> Reporter: I -- I THINK YOU 95 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:38,590 >> Reporter: I -- I THINK YOU THREE HAVE A FRIENDSHIP THAT SO 96 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:39,525 THREE HAVE A FRIENDSHIP THAT SO MANY -- SO MANY OF US LADIES 97 00:02:39,527 --> 00:02:41,160 MANY -- SO MANY OF US LADIES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 98 00:02:41,162 --> 00:02:42,161 WOULD LOVE TO HAVE >> WE ACTUALLY REALLY DID BECOME 99 00:02:42,163 --> 00:02:43,228 >> WE ACTUALLY REALLY DID BECOME LIKE FAMILY. 100 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:44,296 LIKE FAMILY. WE COOKED TOGETHER, HUNG OUT 101 00:02:44,298 --> 00:02:45,697 WE COOKED TOGETHER, HUNG OUT TOGETHER 102 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:46,965 TOGETHER PEGGY WOULD OFFER ENDLESS ADVICE 103 00:02:46,967 --> 00:02:48,000 PEGGY WOULD OFFER ENDLESS ADVICE ABOUT BABIES 104 00:02:48,002 --> 00:02:49,568 ABOUT BABIES >> Reporter: AND YOU GUYS HAD A 105 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:51,203 >> Reporter: AND YOU GUYS HAD A NAME FOR YOURSELVES? 106 00:02:51,205 --> 00:02:51,803 NAME FOR YOURSELVES? >> EITHER -- EITHER THE THREE 107 00:02:51,805 --> 00:02:53,272 >> EITHER -- EITHER THE THREE MUSKETEERS OR THE -- 108 00:02:53,274 --> 00:02:54,640 MUSKETEERS OR THE -- >> -- THREE AMIGOS 109 00:02:54,642 --> 00:02:55,407 >> -- THREE AMIGOS [ LAUGHTER ] 110 00:02:55,409 --> 00:02:56,441 [ LAUGHTER ] >> DEPENDING ON WHATEVER DAY 111 00:02:56,443 --> 00:02:57,509 >> DEPENDING ON WHATEVER DAY WE HAD A LOT OF FUN TOGETHER 112 00:02:57,511 --> 00:02:59,111 WE HAD A LOT OF FUN TOGETHER >> Reporter: FUN 113 00:02:59,113 --> 00:02:59,711 >> Reporter: FUN CONNIE WAS ALL ABOUT THE FUN, 114 00:02:59,713 --> 00:03:02,281 CONNIE WAS ALL ABOUT THE FUN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAY 115 00:03:02,283 --> 00:03:05,117 ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON UPON THEM 116 00:03:05,119 --> 00:03:05,984 SEASON UPON THEM BUT ON THE MORNING OF 117 00:03:05,986 --> 00:03:09,688 BUT ON THE MORNING OF DECEMBER 23rd, 2015, THERE WAS 118 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:11,890 DECEMBER 23rd, 2015, THERE WAS ONLY CHAOS AT CONNIE'S HOUSE 119 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:13,392 ONLY CHAOS AT CONNIE'S HOUSE >> I CAME TO THE SINK. 120 00:03:13,394 --> 00:03:15,527 >> I CAME TO THE SINK. AND I LOOK OVER, AND I'M LIKE, 121 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:16,662 AND I LOOK OVER, AND I'M LIKE, "HOLY COW, THERE'S A STATE 122 00:03:16,664 --> 00:03:18,664 "HOLY COW, THERE'S A STATE TROOPER WITH HIS RIFLE DRAWN ON 123 00:03:18,666 --> 00:03:19,698 TROOPER WITH HIS RIFLE DRAWN ON THE HOUSE. 124 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:20,766 THE HOUSE. >> Reporter: PEGGY IMMEDIATELY 125 00:03:20,768 --> 00:03:21,867 >> Reporter: PEGGY IMMEDIATELY CALLED CONNIE, BUT SHE DIDN'T 126 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:23,969 CALLED CONNIE, BUT SHE DIDN'T PICK UP. 127 00:03:23,971 --> 00:03:25,571 PICK UP. SO PEGGY TRIED DARLENE 128 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:26,605 SO PEGGY TRIED DARLENE >> AND ASKED HER IF SHE KNEW 129 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:29,241 >> AND ASKED HER IF SHE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HAD SHE 130 00:03:29,243 --> 00:03:30,275 WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HAD SHE HEARD FROM CONNIE. 131 00:03:30,277 --> 00:03:31,410 HEARD FROM CONNIE. >> AND SHE SAID THERE WAS A 132 00:03:31,412 --> 00:03:32,411 >> AND SHE SAID THERE WAS A FIRST RESPONDER CAR AND A 133 00:03:32,413 --> 00:03:33,979 FIRST RESPONDER CAR AND A SHERIFF AT CONNIE'S HOUSE. 134 00:03:33,981 --> 00:03:35,581 SHERIFF AT CONNIE'S HOUSE. AND HE WAS OUTSIDE THE CAR WITH 135 00:03:35,583 --> 00:03:36,648 AND HE WAS OUTSIDE THE CAR WITH HIS RIFLE. 136 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:38,217 HIS RIFLE. >> Reporter: THAT'S REALLY 137 00:03:38,219 --> 00:03:40,352 >> Reporter: THAT'S REALLY SCARY. 138 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:42,321 SCARY. >> IT WAS LIKE, "WHAT? 139 00:03:42,323 --> 00:03:45,157 >> IT WAS LIKE, "WHAT? >> BEFORE WE CAN SAY ANOTHER 140 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:48,293 >> BEFORE WE CAN SAY ANOTHER SENTENCE, THIS ENTIRE STREET WAS 141 00:03:48,295 --> 00:03:49,861 SENTENCE, THIS ENTIRE STREET WAS FULL OF STATE TROOPERS 142 00:03:49,863 --> 00:03:50,896 FULL OF STATE TROOPERS THE DRIVEWAY HAD ABOUT 1,000 OF 143 00:03:50,898 --> 00:03:51,964 THE DRIVEWAY HAD ABOUT 1,000 OF 'EM COMIN' UP. 144 00:03:51,966 --> 00:03:52,998 'EM COMIN' UP. I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE 145 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,032 I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT'S - 146 00:03:54,034 --> 00:03:55,133 IT'S - >> Reporter: ARE THEY JUST -- 147 00:03:55,135 --> 00:03:56,735 >> Reporter: ARE THEY JUST -- ARE -- ARE THEY SCREAMING -- 148 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:57,769 ARE -- ARE THEY SCREAMING -- >> THEY'RE SCREECHING AT -- 149 00:03:57,771 --> 00:03:58,837 >> THEY'RE SCREECHING AT -- THEY'RE SCREECHING IN -- 150 00:03:58,839 --> 00:03:59,871 THEY'RE SCREECHING IN -- >> Reporter: -- BY WITH SIRENS 151 00:03:59,873 --> 00:04:00,939 >> Reporter: -- BY WITH SIRENS >> ONE BY ONE BY, YES, YES. 152 00:04:00,941 --> 00:04:02,207 >> ONE BY ONE BY, YES, YES. I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE -- 153 00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:07,012 I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE -- >> Reporter: FULL SPEED. 154 00:04:07,014 --> 00:04:09,715 >> Reporter: FULL SPEED. >> SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE OUT 155 00:04:09,717 --> 00:04:10,983 >> SOMETHING YOU WOULD SEE OUT OF THE MOVIES, YEAH. 156 00:04:10,985 --> 00:04:11,850 OF THE MOVIES, YEAH. >> Reporter: THE MASSIVE POLICE 157 00:04:11,852 --> 00:04:13,218 >> Reporter: THE MASSIVE POLICE PRESENCE WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN 158 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:13,919 PRESENCE WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN ALARM TRIGGERED AT THE HOUSE 159 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:14,987 ALARM TRIGGERED AT THE HOUSE CONNIE SHARED WITH HER HUSBAND, 160 00:04:14,989 --> 00:04:16,455 CONNIE SHARED WITH HER HUSBAND, 39-YEAR-OLD RICK DABATE, AND 161 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:17,089 39-YEAR-OLD RICK DABATE, AND THEIR TWO CHILDREN 162 00:04:17,091 --> 00:04:18,190 THEIR TWO CHILDREN THAT AND A CRYPTIC 911 CALL. 163 00:04:18,192 --> 00:04:19,224 THAT AND A CRYPTIC 911 CALL. >> 911 164 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:20,892 >> 911 HELLO? 165 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:21,893 HELLO? >> NEED HELP 166 00:04:21,895 --> 00:04:24,029 >> NEED HELP >> Reporter: DAVID LAMOUREUX AND 167 00:04:24,031 --> 00:04:25,564 >> Reporter: DAVID LAMOUREUX AND RYAN LUTHER RACED TO THE SCENE 168 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:29,067 RYAN LUTHER RACED TO THE SCENE BACK THEN, THEY WERE CONNECTICUT 169 00:04:29,069 --> 00:04:29,835 BACK THEN, THEY WERE CONNECTICUT STATE POLICE DETECTIVES. 170 00:04:29,837 --> 00:04:31,403 STATE POLICE DETECTIVES. WHAT DO YOU SEE AS YOU PULL UP 171 00:04:31,405 --> 00:04:32,471 WHAT DO YOU SEE AS YOU PULL UP IN THIS, YOU KNOW, QUIET 172 00:04:32,473 --> 00:04:33,505 IN THIS, YOU KNOW, QUIET SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD? 173 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:35,073 SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD? >> THERE WAS NUMEROUS UNIFORMED 174 00:04:35,075 --> 00:04:36,108 >> THERE WAS NUMEROUS UNIFORMED TROOPERS THERE 175 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:37,175 TROOPERS THERE THERE WAS OUR CANINE UNIT, 176 00:04:37,177 --> 00:04:38,210 THERE WAS OUR CANINE UNIT, TROOPERS THERE WITH THEIR 177 00:04:38,212 --> 00:04:39,278 TROOPERS THERE WITH THEIR CANINES OUT. 178 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:40,912 CANINES OUT. AND THEY HAD THE SCENE SECURED 179 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:41,980 AND THEY HAD THE SCENE SECURED AT THE TIME WITH CRIME SCENE 180 00:04:41,982 --> 00:04:43,081 AT THE TIME WITH CRIME SCENE TAPE 181 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:44,049 TAPE >> I BELIEVE MEDIA WAS ACTUALLY 182 00:04:44,051 --> 00:04:45,117 >> I BELIEVE MEDIA WAS ACTUALLY STARTING TO SHOW UP. 183 00:04:45,119 --> 00:04:46,752 STARTING TO SHOW UP. >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU BEING 184 00:04:46,754 --> 00:04:47,319 >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU BEING TOLD BY THE FIRST RESPONDERS 185 00:04:47,321 --> 00:04:48,854 TOLD BY THE FIRST RESPONDERS ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW IN THE 186 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:50,322 ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW IN THE HOUSE? 187 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:51,056 HOUSE? >> INITIALLY THAT IT WAS CALLED 188 00:04:51,058 --> 00:04:52,057 >> INITIALLY THAT IT WAS CALLED IN AS A HOME INVASION AND THAT 189 00:04:52,059 --> 00:04:53,625 IN AS A HOME INVASION AND THAT THERE WAS A DECEASED PERSON IN 190 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:54,693 THERE WAS A DECEASED PERSON IN THE BASEMENT 191 00:04:54,695 --> 00:04:55,727 THE BASEMENT >> Reporter: TROOPERS WERE 192 00:04:55,729 --> 00:04:56,762 >> Reporter: TROOPERS WERE ALREADY SCOURING THE 193 00:04:56,764 --> 00:04:59,197 ALREADY SCOURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POUNDING ON DOORS 194 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:00,465 NEIGHBORHOOD, POUNDING ON DOORS UP AND DOWN THE STREET 195 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:02,200 UP AND DOWN THE STREET >> THEY WERE SAYING THERE WAS 196 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:03,135 >> THEY WERE SAYING THERE WAS HOME INVASION AND THE INTRUDER 197 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:04,169 HOME INVASION AND THE INTRUDER HAS FLED ON FOOT AND IS 198 00:05:04,171 --> 00:05:05,237 HAS FLED ON FOOT AND IS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 199 00:05:05,239 --> 00:05:06,238 SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> Reporter: AND YOUR CHILDREN 200 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,806 >> Reporter: AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE HOME 201 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:08,940 ARE HOME >> MY CHILDREN WERE HOME 202 00:05:08,942 --> 00:05:10,008 >> MY CHILDREN WERE HOME SO - 203 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:11,043 SO - >> Reporter: THE PANIC THAT YOU 204 00:05:11,045 --> 00:05:12,177 >> Reporter: THE PANIC THAT YOU MUST'VE FELT 205 00:05:12,179 --> 00:05:13,178 MUST'VE FELT THE -- JUST THE FEAR 206 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:13,712 THE -- JUST THE FEAR >> FEAR. 207 00:05:13,714 --> 00:05:14,780 >> FEAR. >> Reporter: ONE OF THE TROOPERS 208 00:05:14,782 --> 00:05:16,114 >> Reporter: ONE OF THE TROOPERS SAID THEY NEEDED TO CLEAR 209 00:05:16,116 --> 00:05:17,416 SAID THEY NEEDED TO CLEAR DARLENE'S HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THE 210 00:05:17,418 --> 00:05:18,984 DARLENE'S HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THE INTRUDER WASN'T INSIDE 211 00:05:18,986 --> 00:05:19,718 INTRUDER WASN'T INSIDE >> AND HE SAID, "IS THIS A -- IS 212 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,552 >> AND HE SAID, "IS THIS A -- IS THIS A BATHROOM? 213 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:21,586 THIS A BATHROOM? IS THIS A POWDER ROOM HERE?" 214 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:22,654 IS THIS A POWDER ROOM HERE?" AND I SAID, "YES." 215 00:05:22,656 --> 00:05:23,789 AND I SAID, "YES." AND HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GET 216 00:05:23,791 --> 00:05:24,823 AND HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GET IN THE BATHROOM WITH YOUR 217 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:26,391 IN THE BATHROOM WITH YOUR CHILDREN." 218 00:05:26,393 --> 00:05:26,925 CHILDREN." I TOOK THEM OFF THE COUCH. 219 00:05:26,927 --> 00:05:28,460 I TOOK THEM OFF THE COUCH. THEY WERE WITH THEIR IPADS 220 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:30,062 THEY WERE WITH THEIR IPADS AND I -- I PUT THEM BACK BEHIND 221 00:05:30,064 --> 00:05:32,130 AND I -- I PUT THEM BACK BEHIND THE TOILET 222 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:33,832 THE TOILET AND I JUST PUT -- SHUT THE DOOR. 223 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:35,934 AND I JUST PUT -- SHUT THE DOOR. PUT MY BACK AGAINST THE DOOR 224 00:05:35,936 --> 00:05:37,602 PUT MY BACK AGAINST THE DOOR AND THE TROOPER SAID, "I'M GONNA 225 00:05:37,604 --> 00:05:38,570 AND THE TROOPER SAID, "I'M GONNA CLEAR THE HOUSE, AND I DON'T 226 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:40,539 CLEAR THE HOUSE, AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME OUT UNTIL YOU 227 00:05:40,541 --> 00:05:41,239 WANT YOU TO COME OUT UNTIL YOU HEAR ME KNOCK TWICE. 228 00:05:41,241 --> 00:05:42,808 HEAR ME KNOCK TWICE. WHEN YOU HEAR ME KNOCK TWICE, 229 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:43,875 WHEN YOU HEAR ME KNOCK TWICE, THEN YOU'LL KNOW THE HOUSE IS 230 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:44,910 THEN YOU'LL KNOW THE HOUSE IS CLEAR. 231 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:45,977 CLEAR. >> Reporter: YOU -- YOU'RE ALL 232 00:05:45,979 --> 00:05:47,612 >> Reporter: YOU -- YOU'RE ALL HUDDLED IN THERE 233 00:05:47,614 --> 00:05:48,046 HUDDLED IN THERE >> WE'RE ALL HUDDLED 234 00:05:48,048 --> 00:05:48,613 >> WE'RE ALL HUDDLED >> Reporter: WITH THE DOOR - 235 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:49,681 >> Reporter: WITH THE DOOR - >> WITH THE DOOR SHUT. 236 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:51,083 >> WITH THE DOOR SHUT. >> Reporter: WHEN THEY FINALLY 237 00:05:51,085 --> 00:05:52,851 >> Reporter: WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT THE ALL-CLEAR, DARLENE AND 238 00:05:52,853 --> 00:05:53,418 GOT THE ALL-CLEAR, DARLENE AND HER CHILDREN CAME OUT OF THE 239 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:54,453 HER CHILDREN CAME OUT OF THE BATHROOM 240 00:05:54,455 --> 00:05:56,054 BATHROOM BUT THEY WERE ORDERED TO STAY 241 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:57,089 BUT THEY WERE ORDERED TO STAY INSIDE THE HOUSE 242 00:05:57,091 --> 00:05:58,123 INSIDE THE HOUSE >> HE CAME OUT AND STOOD HERE 243 00:05:58,125 --> 00:05:59,157 >> HE CAME OUT AND STOOD HERE AND HE SAID, "I'M GONNA GO OUT 244 00:05:59,159 --> 00:06:00,225 AND HE SAID, "I'M GONNA GO OUT THAT DOOR. 245 00:06:00,227 --> 00:06:01,259 THAT DOOR. I WANT YOU TO LOCK THE DOOR 246 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:02,894 I WANT YOU TO LOCK THE DOOR BEHIND ME. 247 00:06:02,896 --> 00:06:04,463 BEHIND ME. DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR UNDER ANY 248 00:06:04,465 --> 00:06:06,565 DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR UNDER ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE." 249 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:07,099 OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE." SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 250 00:06:07,101 --> 00:06:08,133 SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. >> Reporter: MEANWHILE, ACROSS 251 00:06:08,135 --> 00:06:09,735 >> Reporter: MEANWHILE, ACROSS THE STREET, PEGGY WAS STILL 252 00:06:09,737 --> 00:06:11,336 THE STREET, PEGGY WAS STILL TRYING TO REACH CONNIE 253 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:12,404 TRYING TO REACH CONNIE >> I WAS FEELING ANXIOUS 254 00:06:12,406 --> 00:06:14,506 >> I WAS FEELING ANXIOUS I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 255 00:06:14,508 --> 00:06:15,574 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. I CALLED THERE 256 00:06:15,576 --> 00:06:16,575 I CALLED THERE I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS GOING ON? 257 00:06:16,577 --> 00:06:17,642 I'M LIKE, "WHAT IS GOING ON? PLEASE CALL ME BACK. 258 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:18,710 PLEASE CALL ME BACK. LET ME KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE 259 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:19,277 LET ME KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY." 260 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,015 OKAY." NO ONE ANSWERED. 261 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:25,083 NO ONE ANSWERED. IT WENT STRAIGHT TO VOICEMAIL. 262 00:06:25,085 --> 00:06:27,185 IT WENT STRAIGHT TO VOICEMAIL. >> Reporter: SHE WAS STANDING BY 263 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:27,786 >> Reporter: SHE WAS STANDING BY HER WINDOW WHEN SHE HEARD THE 264 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:29,321 HER WINDOW WHEN SHE HEARD THE CRACKLE OF A POLICE SCANNER. 265 00:06:29,323 --> 00:06:31,456 CRACKLE OF A POLICE SCANNER. >> I HEARD, "DOA GOING TO 266 00:06:31,458 --> 00:06:32,491 >> I HEARD, "DOA GOING TO HARTFORD HOSPITAL. 267 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:33,558 HARTFORD HOSPITAL. I CALLED HER AND I WAS LIKE -- 268 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,593 I CALLED HER AND I WAS LIKE -- >> SCREAMING 269 00:06:34,595 --> 00:06:35,660 >> SCREAMING >> I COULDN'T BREATHE. 270 00:06:35,662 --> 00:06:37,796 >> I COULDN'T BREATHE. I WAS SCREAMING. 271 00:06:37,798 --> 00:06:40,699 I WAS SCREAMING. >> SCREAMING 272 00:06:40,701 --> 00:06:41,500 >> SCREAMING >> I WAS LIKE, "SOMEONE'S DEAD." 273 00:06:41,502 --> 00:06:43,034 >> I WAS LIKE, "SOMEONE'S DEAD." LIKE, WHAT'S" -- 274 00:06:43,036 --> 00:06:44,136 LIKE, WHAT'S" -- >> Reporter: OH, MY GOSH 275 00:06:44,138 --> 00:06:45,203 >> Reporter: OH, MY GOSH >> -- "GOING ON? 276 00:06:45,205 --> 00:06:46,271 >> -- "GOING ON? I DON'T UNDERSTAND." 277 00:06:46,273 --> 00:06:47,305 I DON'T UNDERSTAND." AND SO - 278 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:48,673 AND SO - >> Reporter: EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT 279 00:06:48,675 --> 00:06:49,408 >> Reporter: EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT DOA MEANS. 280 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:50,475 DOA MEANS. >> EXACTLY 281 00:06:50,477 --> 00:06:51,543 >> EXACTLY >> Reporter: AN APPARENT HOME 282 00:06:51,545 --> 00:06:52,577 >> Reporter: AN APPARENT HOME INVASION 283 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:53,678 INVASION AN INTRUDER ON THE LOOSE 284 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,146 AN INTRUDER ON THE LOOSE SOMEONE DEAD 285 00:06:54,148 --> 00:06:55,213 SOMEONE DEAD WHAT HAD HAPPENED AT RICK AND 286 00:06:55,215 --> 00:06:56,281 WHAT HAD HAPPENED AT RICK AND CONNIE'S HOUSE 287 00:06:56,283 --> 00:06:59,484 CONNIE'S HOUSE AND WHY ON EARTH WASN'T CONNIE 288 00:06:59,486 --> 00:06:59,918 AND WHY ON EARTH WASN'T CONNIE PICKING UP HER PHONE 289 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:00,952 PICKING UP HER PHONE >>> FIGURING THAT OUT WOULDN'T 290 00:07:00,954 --> 00:07:02,554 >>> FIGURING THAT OUT WOULDN'T BE SO EASY 291 00:07:02,556 --> 00:07:04,222 BE SO EASY WHEN WE COME BACK, FOR 292 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:05,090 WHEN WE COME BACK, FOR INVESTIGATORS, THE CHAOS OUTSIDE 293 00:07:05,092 --> 00:07:05,824 INVESTIGATORS, THE CHAOS OUTSIDE THE HOUSE WAS ABOUT TO GIVE WAY 294 00:07:05,826 --> 00:07:08,894 THE HOUSE WAS ABOUT TO GIVE WAY TO A SERIES OF CHILLING 295 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:09,494 TO A SERIES OF CHILLING DISCOVERIES INSIDE 296 00:07:09,496 --> 00:07:11,630 DISCOVERIES INSIDE >> HE WAS IN THE KITCHEN, BOUND 297 00:07:11,632 --> 00:07:12,697 >> HE WAS IN THE KITCHEN, BOUND TO A FOLDING CHAIR 298 00:07:12,699 --> 00:07:14,900 TO A FOLDING CHAIR SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE FAR 299 00:07:14,902 --> 00:07:30,148 SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE FAR CORNER OF THE BASEMENT 300 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:31,716 CORNER OF THE BASEMENT >> Reporter: BIRCH VIEW DRIVE, 301 00:07:31,718 --> 00:07:33,819 >> Reporter: BIRCH VIEW DRIVE, NORMALLY PEACEFUL, WAS IN 302 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:35,420 NORMALLY PEACEFUL, WAS IN UPHEAVAL 303 00:07:35,422 --> 00:07:37,022 UPHEAVAL AN APPARENT HOME INVASION AT 304 00:07:37,024 --> 00:07:39,624 AN APPARENT HOME INVASION AT CONNIE AND RICK DABATE'S HOUSE, 305 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:41,259 CONNIE AND RICK DABATE'S HOUSE, POLICE CARS ALL OVER THE PLACE 306 00:07:41,261 --> 00:07:45,464 POLICE CARS ALL OVER THE PLACE DETECTIVES LAMOREAUX AND LUTHER 307 00:07:45,466 --> 00:07:46,531 DETECTIVES LAMOREAUX AND LUTHER HAD TO MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL. 308 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,134 HAD TO MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL. WHAT DO YOU SEE? 309 00:07:49,136 --> 00:07:50,168 WHAT DO YOU SEE? >> WELL, IT'S A LARGE HOUSE. 310 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:51,236 >> WELL, IT'S A LARGE HOUSE. WE WERE ABLE TO JUST DO A 311 00:07:51,238 --> 00:07:52,270 WE WERE ABLE TO JUST DO A WALK -- GENERAL WALK-THROUGH OF 312 00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:53,405 WALK -- GENERAL WALK-THROUGH OF THE HOUSE BEFORE WE BEGIN 313 00:07:53,407 --> 00:07:54,439 THE HOUSE BEFORE WE BEGIN PROCESSING TO GET A FEEL FOR 314 00:07:54,441 --> 00:07:56,575 PROCESSING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT'S GOIN' ON. 315 00:07:56,577 --> 00:07:57,642 WHAT'S GOIN' ON. >> IT WAS TWO DAYS BEFORE 316 00:07:57,644 --> 00:07:58,677 >> IT WAS TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS. 317 00:07:58,679 --> 00:07:59,744 CHRISTMAS. YOU HAVE THIS CHRISTMAS TREE AND 318 00:07:59,746 --> 00:08:00,745 YOU HAVE THIS CHRISTMAS TREE AND PRESENTS AND DECORATIONS 319 00:08:00,747 --> 00:08:02,047 PRESENTS AND DECORATIONS YOU KNOW 320 00:08:02,049 --> 00:08:03,448 YOU KNOW AND WE LATER LEARNED ABOUT THE 321 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,483 AND WE LATER LEARNED ABOUT THE TWO BOYS THAT THEY HAD 322 00:08:04,485 --> 00:08:05,050 TWO BOYS THAT THEY HAD >> Reporter: THANKFULLY, THE 323 00:08:05,052 --> 00:08:06,585 >> Reporter: THANKFULLY, THE BOYS, JUST 6 AND 9 YEARS OLD, 324 00:08:06,587 --> 00:08:08,153 BOYS, JUST 6 AND 9 YEARS OLD, WERE AT SCHOOL 325 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:09,754 WERE AT SCHOOL BUT RICK AND CONNIE HAD BEEN 326 00:08:09,756 --> 00:08:10,288 BUT RICK AND CONNIE HAD BEEN HOME 327 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:13,458 HOME FIRST RESPONDERS FOUND RICK IN 328 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:13,992 FIRST RESPONDERS FOUND RICK IN THE KITCHEN. 329 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:16,094 THE KITCHEN. >> HE WAS PARTIALLY BOUND TO A 330 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:19,664 >> HE WAS PARTIALLY BOUND TO A FOLDING CHAIR. 331 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:20,298 FOLDING CHAIR. THERE WAS WHAT LOOKED LIKE BLOOD 332 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:21,900 THERE WAS WHAT LOOKED LIKE BLOOD ON THE FLOOR, SMEARED ON THE 333 00:08:21,902 --> 00:08:22,968 ON THE FLOOR, SMEARED ON THE FLOOR. 334 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,570 FLOOR. HE WAS REPORTEDLY JUST MOANING 335 00:08:25,572 --> 00:08:26,171 HE WAS REPORTEDLY JUST MOANING WHEN THEY GOT THERE. 336 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:28,306 WHEN THEY GOT THERE. >> Reporter: HE WAS INJURED BUT 337 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:29,374 >> Reporter: HE WAS INJURED BUT ALIVE. 338 00:08:29,376 --> 00:08:30,642 ALIVE. THE RESPONDERS RUSHED HIM TO THE 339 00:08:30,644 --> 00:08:33,044 THE RESPONDERS RUSHED HIM TO THE HOSPITAL 340 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:35,180 HOSPITAL BUT CONNIE - 341 00:08:35,182 --> 00:08:36,214 BUT CONNIE - >> SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE FAR 342 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:38,950 >> SHE WAS LOCATED IN THE FAR CORNER OF THE BASEMENT, IN THE 343 00:08:38,952 --> 00:08:39,351 CORNER OF THE BASEMENT, IN THE UNFINISHED PORTION 344 00:08:39,353 --> 00:08:40,986 UNFINISHED PORTION SHE WAS DRESSED IN WHAT LOOKED 345 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,020 SHE WAS DRESSED IN WHAT LOOKED LIKE WORKOUT GEAR. 346 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:44,689 LIKE WORKOUT GEAR. LIKE, SWEATPANTS AND A SWEAT 347 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:47,325 LIKE, SWEATPANTS AND A SWEAT TOP, WEARING SNEAKERS. 348 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:48,360 TOP, WEARING SNEAKERS. SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY DECEASED 349 00:08:48,362 --> 00:08:49,928 SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY DECEASED THERE WAS OBVIOUS SIGNS OF 350 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:51,029 THERE WAS OBVIOUS SIGNS OF GUNSHOT WOUND TO HER 351 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:53,665 GUNSHOT WOUND TO HER >> Reporter: CONNIE DABATE HAD 352 00:08:53,667 --> 00:08:54,699 >> Reporter: CONNIE DABATE HAD BEEN SHOT TO DEATH 353 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:55,767 BEEN SHOT TO DEATH SHE WAS THE DOA PEGGY HAD HEARD 354 00:08:55,769 --> 00:08:56,801 SHE WAS THE DOA PEGGY HAD HEARD MENTIONED ON THAT POLICE 355 00:08:56,803 --> 00:08:57,869 MENTIONED ON THAT POLICE SCANNER. 356 00:08:57,871 --> 00:08:59,471 SCANNER. DARLENE GOT THE NEWS FROM RICK'S 357 00:08:59,473 --> 00:09:01,039 DARLENE GOT THE NEWS FROM RICK'S DAD. 358 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:02,107 DAD. >> HE SAID THERE WAS A HOME 359 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:05,310 >> HE SAID THERE WAS A HOME INVASION AND CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE 360 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:07,379 INVASION AND CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE IT 361 00:09:07,381 --> 00:09:08,980 IT IT WAS, LIKE, A SICK FEELING 362 00:09:08,982 --> 00:09:12,183 IT WAS, LIKE, A SICK FEELING LIKE, "CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE IT 363 00:09:12,185 --> 00:09:14,352 LIKE, "CONNIE DIDN'T MAKE IT WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? 364 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:14,953 WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? >> Reporter: CONNIE'S BROTHER, 365 00:09:14,955 --> 00:09:16,755 >> Reporter: CONNIE'S BROTHER, KEITH MARGOTTA, AND HIS WIFE 366 00:09:16,757 --> 00:09:19,057 KEITH MARGOTTA, AND HIS WIFE DONNA, FOUND OUT FROM KEITH'S 367 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:21,159 DONNA, FOUND OUT FROM KEITH'S FATHER 368 00:09:21,161 --> 00:09:23,795 FATHER >> HE CALLED AND SAID THAT 369 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:26,431 >> HE CALLED AND SAID THAT THERE'S BEEN A TRAGEDY OR A HOME 370 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:27,499 THERE'S BEEN A TRAGEDY OR A HOME INVASION AT MY SISTER'S HOUSE IN 371 00:09:27,501 --> 00:09:29,100 INVASION AT MY SISTER'S HOUSE IN ELLINGTON AND THAT CONNIE WAS 372 00:09:29,102 --> 00:09:29,568 ELLINGTON AND THAT CONNIE WAS GONE, IS WHAT HE SAID. 373 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:30,635 GONE, IS WHAT HE SAID. I FELT LIKE I WAS JUST GONNA 374 00:09:30,637 --> 00:09:31,703 I FELT LIKE I WAS JUST GONNA COLLAPSE 375 00:09:31,705 --> 00:09:33,138 COLLAPSE >> YEAH. 376 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:35,440 >> YEAH. WE WERE JUST TRYIN' TO PROCESS 377 00:09:35,442 --> 00:09:37,208 WE WERE JUST TRYIN' TO PROCESS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD 378 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:38,076 WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T FATHOM IT 379 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:38,643 WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T FATHOM IT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SEEN HER. 380 00:09:38,645 --> 00:09:41,746 BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SEEN HER. YOU KNOW, IT -- IT'S NOT REAL. 381 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:42,814 YOU KNOW, IT -- IT'S NOT REAL. IT CAN'T BE REAL 382 00:09:42,816 --> 00:09:44,416 IT CAN'T BE REAL >> Reporter: SOON WORD OF 383 00:09:44,418 --> 00:09:46,518 >> Reporter: SOON WORD OF CONNIE'S MURDER SPREAD 384 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,586 CONNIE'S MURDER SPREAD ONE OF HER OLDEST FRIENDS, 385 00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:48,653 ONE OF HER OLDEST FRIENDS, KIM PHILLIPS, GOT THE NEWS BY 386 00:09:48,655 --> 00:09:51,289 KIM PHILLIPS, GOT THE NEWS BY TEXT 387 00:09:51,291 --> 00:09:53,558 TEXT SHE SAYS SHE CRUMBLED. 388 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:54,492 SHE SAYS SHE CRUMBLED. >> MY KIDS WERE 5 AND 6. 389 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:55,527 >> MY KIDS WERE 5 AND 6. SO I JUST REMEMBER, LIKE, I 390 00:09:55,529 --> 00:09:56,595 SO I JUST REMEMBER, LIKE, I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE ME 391 00:09:56,597 --> 00:09:57,629 DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SEE ME GETTING SO UPSET 392 00:09:57,631 --> 00:10:04,536 GETTING SO UPSET SO I RAN UPSTAIRS AND JUST 393 00:10:04,538 --> 00:10:06,104 SO I RAN UPSTAIRS AND JUST SCREAMED INTO THE PILLOW 394 00:10:06,106 --> 00:10:07,238 SCREAMED INTO THE PILLOW AND I HATE THAT -- THAT I'M 395 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,707 AND I HATE THAT -- THAT I'M SAYING THIS, BUT I WAS LIKE, 396 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:09,774 SAYING THIS, BUT I WAS LIKE, "WHY IS IT HER, AND WHY COULDN'T 397 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,242 "WHY IS IT HER, AND WHY COULDN'T IT BE SOMEBODY ELSE? 398 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:11,876 IT BE SOMEBODY ELSE? >> Reporter: THAT WAS YOUR, YOU 399 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:13,445 >> Reporter: THAT WAS YOUR, YOU KNOW, NATURAL REACTION IN THE 400 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:14,479 KNOW, NATURAL REACTION IN THE MOMENT 401 00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:15,580 MOMENT >> IT REALLY WAS THE WORST, 402 00:10:15,582 --> 00:10:16,648 >> IT REALLY WAS THE WORST, WORST NEWS I COULD EVER HEAR, 403 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:17,649 WORST NEWS I COULD EVER HEAR, AND THE WORST PERSON THAT IT 404 00:10:17,651 --> 00:10:19,250 AND THE WORST PERSON THAT IT COULD EVER BE. 405 00:10:19,252 --> 00:10:21,386 COULD EVER BE. >> Reporter: CONNIE? 406 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:22,654 >> Reporter: CONNIE? WHO WOULD HAVE MURDERED HER? 407 00:10:22,656 --> 00:10:23,288 WHO WOULD HAVE MURDERED HER? SHE WAS THE SWEETEST PERSON, THE 408 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:25,090 SHE WAS THE SWEETEST PERSON, THE BABY IN THE FAMILY WITH TWO 409 00:10:25,092 --> 00:10:27,192 BABY IN THE FAMILY WITH TWO OLDER SISTERS AND A BROTHER. 410 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:29,327 OLDER SISTERS AND A BROTHER. >> I TEASED HER A LOT AS A BIG 411 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:30,895 >> I TEASED HER A LOT AS A BIG BROTHER, AS BIG BROTHERS MIGHT 412 00:10:30,897 --> 00:10:31,963 BROTHER, AS BIG BROTHERS MIGHT YOU KNOW, AND -- AND AS ADULTS, 413 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:33,565 YOU KNOW, AND -- AND AS ADULTS, SHE -- SHE HAD REMINDED ME OF 414 00:10:33,567 --> 00:10:35,667 SHE -- SHE HAD REMINDED ME OF THAT 415 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:42,540 THAT >> Reporter: HOW WOULD YOU TEASE 416 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:43,575 >> Reporter: HOW WOULD YOU TEASE HER? 417 00:10:43,577 --> 00:10:45,176 HER? HOW WOULD YOU TORMENT YOUR 418 00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:46,211 HOW WOULD YOU TORMENT YOUR LITTLE SISTER? 419 00:10:46,213 --> 00:10:47,746 LITTLE SISTER? >> SHE SAYS I PUT HER OUT THE 420 00:10:47,748 --> 00:10:48,813 >> SHE SAYS I PUT HER OUT THE WINDOW ONE TIME. 421 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:49,914 WINDOW ONE TIME. >> DID NOT 422 00:10:49,916 --> 00:10:50,982 >> DID NOT >> THAT WAS JUST -- IT WAS -- IT 423 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:51,983 >> THAT WAS JUST -- IT WAS -- IT WAS MAYBE HER FEET 424 00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:53,084 WAS MAYBE HER FEET BUT. 425 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:54,119 BUT. >> Reporter: DON'T YOU LOVE HOW 426 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:55,153 >> Reporter: DON'T YOU LOVE HOW LITTLE SIBLINGS CAN EXAGGERATE 427 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,788 LITTLE SIBLINGS CAN EXAGGERATE LIKE THAT? 428 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:57,822 LIKE THAT? >> THEY DO -- THEY DO 429 00:10:57,824 --> 00:10:58,857 >> THEY DO -- THEY DO EXAGGERATE, YEAH 430 00:10:58,859 --> 00:10:59,958 EXAGGERATE, YEAH >> Reporter: WHEN THEY WANNA GET 431 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,060 >> Reporter: WHEN THEY WANNA GET YOU IN TROUBLE 432 00:11:02,062 --> 00:11:02,594 YOU IN TROUBLE >> YEAH. 433 00:11:02,596 --> 00:11:04,162 >> YEAH. YEAH 434 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:05,530 YEAH SHE -- SHE -- SHE THOUGHT MY 435 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:06,297 SHE -- SHE -- SHE THOUGHT MY FATHER -- YOU KNOW, I'D GET IN 436 00:11:06,299 --> 00:11:07,298 FATHER -- YOU KNOW, I'D GET IN TROUBLE WITH MY FATHER WHEN I 437 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:08,400 TROUBLE WITH MY FATHER WHEN I WAS 40 OR SOMETHING. 438 00:11:08,402 --> 00:11:09,434 WAS 40 OR SOMETHING. >> Reporter: AND DONNA, YOU CAME 439 00:11:09,436 --> 00:11:10,468 >> Reporter: AND DONNA, YOU CAME IN TO CONNIE'S LIFE WHEN SHE WAS 440 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:11,636 IN TO CONNIE'S LIFE WHEN SHE WAS QUITE YOUNG. 441 00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:13,138 QUITE YOUNG. >> YES 442 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:14,305 >> YES SHE WAS 6 YEARS OLD. 443 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:15,273 SHE WAS 6 YEARS OLD. I MET CONNIE -- I WAS DATING 444 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:16,274 I MET CONNIE -- I WAS DATING HER -- HER BROTHER 445 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:17,842 HER -- HER BROTHER CONNIE TOOK DANCE FROM THE SAME 446 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:18,910 CONNIE TOOK DANCE FROM THE SAME DANCE TEACHER I DID. 447 00:11:18,912 --> 00:11:19,944 DANCE TEACHER I DID. SHE WAS LIKE A LITTLE SISTER 448 00:11:19,946 --> 00:11:21,012 SHE WAS LIKE A LITTLE SISTER >> Reporter: FAMILY, FOR CONNIE, 449 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:22,113 >> Reporter: FAMILY, FOR CONNIE, ALSO INCLUDED HER FRIENDS, LIKE 450 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:23,148 ALSO INCLUDED HER FRIENDS, LIKE KIM. 451 00:11:23,150 --> 00:11:24,215 KIM. >> I MET CONNIE MY SOPHOMORE 452 00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:25,283 >> I MET CONNIE MY SOPHOMORE YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL. 453 00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:25,917 YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL. SHE HAD JUST MOVED TO ELLINGTON, 454 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:31,623 SHE HAD JUST MOVED TO ELLINGTON, AND WE JUST GOT ALONG FROM THE 455 00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:31,823 AND WE JUST GOT ALONG FROM THE START. 456 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:32,457 START. >> Reporter: THIS IS EVERYTHING 457 00:11:32,459 --> 00:11:33,091 >> Reporter: THIS IS EVERYTHING I KEEP HEARING ABOUT CONNIE, IS 458 00:11:33,093 --> 00:11:33,692 I KEEP HEARING ABOUT CONNIE, IS JUST HER WAY OF PUTTING PEOPLE 459 00:11:33,694 --> 00:11:34,325 JUST HER WAY OF PUTTING PEOPLE AT EASE, GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE 460 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:35,360 AT EASE, GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE VERY QUICKLY, HAVING THOSE 461 00:11:35,362 --> 00:11:36,394 VERY QUICKLY, HAVING THOSE INSTANT CONNECTIONS. 462 00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:37,429 INSTANT CONNECTIONS. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 463 00:11:37,431 --> 00:11:38,797 >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SHE WAS SOMEONE THAT, THE FIRST 464 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:39,564 SHE WAS SOMEONE THAT, THE FIRST TIME YOU WOULD MEET HER, YOU 465 00:11:39,566 --> 00:11:40,598 TIME YOU WOULD MEET HER, YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY JUST BE 466 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,666 WOULD AUTOMATICALLY JUST BE ATTRACTED TO HER PERSONALITY 467 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:42,667 ATTRACTED TO HER PERSONALITY YOU WOULD WANNA SPEND MORE TIME 468 00:11:42,669 --> 00:11:44,169 YOU WOULD WANNA SPEND MORE TIME WITH HER 469 00:11:44,171 --> 00:11:44,803 WITH HER >> Reporter: IT'S THAT QUALITY, 470 00:11:44,805 --> 00:11:45,904 >> Reporter: IT'S THAT QUALITY, KIM SAYS, THAT MADE EVERYONE WHO 471 00:11:45,906 --> 00:11:46,938 KIM SAYS, THAT MADE EVERYONE WHO KNEW CONNIE THINK OF HER AS A 472 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,006 KNEW CONNIE THINK OF HER AS A BEST FRIEND. 473 00:11:48,008 --> 00:11:49,607 BEST FRIEND. YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S, LIKE, 474 00:11:49,609 --> 00:11:50,341 YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S, LIKE, MAYBE A SMALL GROUP OF BEST 475 00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:51,676 MAYBE A SMALL GROUP OF BEST FRIENDS. 476 00:11:51,678 --> 00:11:53,244 FRIENDS. THIS WAS, LIKE, EVERYBODY WAS, 477 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:54,846 THIS WAS, LIKE, EVERYBODY WAS, "CONNIE WAS MY BEST FRIEND." 478 00:11:54,848 --> 00:11:55,880 "CONNIE WAS MY BEST FRIEND." >> IT MAKES ME FEEL SO GOOD TO 479 00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:58,016 >> IT MAKES ME FEEL SO GOOD TO KNOW THAT SO MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT 480 00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,084 KNOW THAT SO MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT OF CONNIE AS THEIR BEST FRIEND 481 00:11:59,086 --> 00:12:00,151 OF CONNIE AS THEIR BEST FRIEND AND I JUST THINK IT'S -- AGAIN, 482 00:12:00,153 --> 00:12:01,720 AND I JUST THINK IT'S -- AGAIN, SHE WAS ABLE TO REACH INTO 483 00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:02,787 SHE WAS ABLE TO REACH INTO PEOPLE 484 00:12:02,789 --> 00:12:04,355 PEOPLE SHE PUT EVERYONE ELSE BEFORE 485 00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:06,491 SHE PUT EVERYONE ELSE BEFORE HERSELF. 486 00:12:06,493 --> 00:12:08,159 HERSELF. >> Reporter: AND THAT MADE IT 487 00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:08,793 >> Reporter: AND THAT MADE IT EASY TO ROOT FOR CONNIE WHEN SHE 488 00:12:08,795 --> 00:12:10,161 EASY TO ROOT FOR CONNIE WHEN SHE GUSHED OVER A NEW MAN IN HER 489 00:12:10,163 --> 00:12:12,464 GUSHED OVER A NEW MAN IN HER LIFE 490 00:12:12,466 --> 00:12:13,331 LIFE SHE MET RICK AT A PARTY WHILE 491 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,899 SHE MET RICK AT A PARTY WHILE HOME FROM COLLEGE ONE SUMMER 492 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:16,534 HOME FROM COLLEGE ONE SUMMER >> SHE'S LIKE, "I MET THIS GREAT 493 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:17,569 >> SHE'S LIKE, "I MET THIS GREAT GUY, AND HE'S ITALIAN. 494 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:20,739 GUY, AND HE'S ITALIAN. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE LOVED ITALIAN 495 00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:22,340 AND, YOU KNOW, SHE LOVED ITALIAN MEN. 496 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:23,374 MEN. AND SO I WAS LIKE, "OKAY," YOU 497 00:12:23,376 --> 00:12:24,342 AND SO I WAS LIKE, "OKAY," YOU KNOW, "IF CONNIE LOVES HIM, I'LL 498 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,044 KNOW, "IF CONNIE LOVES HIM, I'LL LOVE HIM." 499 00:12:26,046 --> 00:12:27,779 LOVE HIM." >> Reporter: WHAT DID YOU THINK 500 00:12:27,781 --> 00:12:28,680 >> Reporter: WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT INITIAL IMPRESSIONS OF -- 501 00:12:28,682 --> 00:12:29,714 ABOUT INITIAL IMPRESSIONS OF -- OF RICK, AND CONNIE AND RICK 502 00:12:29,716 --> 00:12:31,316 OF RICK, AND CONNIE AND RICK TOGETHER 503 00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:32,851 TOGETHER >> I REALLY LIKED RICK 504 00:12:32,853 --> 00:12:34,018 >> I REALLY LIKED RICK I THOUGHT HE WAS A GOOD FIT FOR 505 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:34,753 I THOUGHT HE WAS A GOOD FIT FOR CONNIE 506 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:36,020 CONNIE I MEAN, HE WAS FUN 507 00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:37,122 I MEAN, HE WAS FUN SHE WAS FUN. 508 00:12:37,124 --> 00:12:38,690 SHE WAS FUN. >> Reporter: RICHARD AND 509 00:12:38,692 --> 00:12:39,758 >> Reporter: RICHARD AND JULIE DABATE SAY THEIR SON HAD 510 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,359 JULIE DABATE SAY THEIR SON HAD ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY 511 00:12:41,361 --> 00:12:44,529 ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY >> HE WAS EASY GOIN' 512 00:12:44,531 --> 00:12:46,097 >> HE WAS EASY GOIN' HE WAS ALWAYS, LIKE, A JOKER 513 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:47,732 HE WAS ALWAYS, LIKE, A JOKER >> AND WHEN HE BROUGHT CONNIE 514 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:49,634 >> AND WHEN HE BROUGHT CONNIE HOME, I SAID TO MY HUSBAND, 515 00:12:49,636 --> 00:12:51,402 HOME, I SAID TO MY HUSBAND, "THIS IS DIFFERENT 516 00:12:51,404 --> 00:12:52,470 "THIS IS DIFFERENT I THINK SHE'S THE ONE. 517 00:12:52,472 --> 00:12:53,505 I THINK SHE'S THE ONE. >> Reporter: WHAT WAS DIFFERENT 518 00:12:53,507 --> 00:12:56,441 >> Reporter: WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT IT 519 00:12:56,443 --> 00:12:56,841 ABOUT IT >> HE WAS GLOWING. 520 00:12:56,843 --> 00:13:00,912 >> HE WAS GLOWING. AND CONNIE FIT RIGHT IN. 521 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:03,014 AND CONNIE FIT RIGHT IN. >> Reporter: CONNIE WAS THE ONE. 522 00:13:03,016 --> 00:13:04,082 >> Reporter: CONNIE WAS THE ONE. THE TWO MARRIED, HAD THE BOYS, 523 00:13:04,084 --> 00:13:05,617 THE TWO MARRIED, HAD THE BOYS, AND THEIR HOUSE ON BIRCH VIEW 524 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:07,218 AND THEIR HOUSE ON BIRCH VIEW DRIVE BECAME THE HAPPY CENTER OF 525 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,854 DRIVE BECAME THE HAPPY CENTER OF THEIR SOCIAL LIVES 526 00:13:09,856 --> 00:13:13,024 THEIR SOCIAL LIVES >> IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WE 527 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:14,592 >> IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY CALLED CONNIE'S HOUSE 528 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:15,660 ACTUALLY CALLED CONNIE'S HOUSE THE DABATE ESTATES BECAUSE WE 529 00:13:15,662 --> 00:13:16,628 THE DABATE ESTATES BECAUSE WE USED TO ALWAYS GO THERE THAT - 530 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:18,396 USED TO ALWAYS GO THERE THAT - >> Reporter: SOUNDS LIKE A 531 00:13:18,398 --> 00:13:19,864 >> Reporter: SOUNDS LIKE A WINERY 532 00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:22,801 WINERY [ LAUGHTER ] 533 00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:23,868 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT IT WAS TRUE 'CAUSE THAT'S 534 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:24,903 >> BUT IT WAS TRUE 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE -- PEOPLE WOULD JUST 535 00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:25,970 WHERE -- PEOPLE WOULD JUST CONGREGATE AT THAT HOUSE 536 00:13:25,972 --> 00:13:27,005 CONGREGATE AT THAT HOUSE >> Reporter: BUT NOW THE DABATE 537 00:13:27,007 --> 00:13:29,040 >> Reporter: BUT NOW THE DABATE HOUSE WAS A CRIME SCENE. 538 00:13:29,042 --> 00:13:29,641 HOUSE WAS A CRIME SCENE. CONNIE WAS DEAD AND THE PEOPLE 539 00:13:29,643 --> 00:13:30,241 CONNIE WAS DEAD AND THE PEOPLE CONGREGATING THERE WERE STATE 540 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,209 CONGREGATING THERE WERE STATE POLICE INVESTIGATORS 541 00:13:31,211 --> 00:13:33,378 POLICE INVESTIGATORS >> WE ARE A TEAM OF FIVE 542 00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:34,712 >> WE ARE A TEAM OF FIVE DETECTIVES THAT WILL INVESTIGATE 543 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:35,713 DETECTIVES THAT WILL INVESTIGATE THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES THAT 544 00:13:35,715 --> 00:13:38,149 THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES THAT OCCUR. 545 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:40,552 OCCUR. >> Reporter: DETECTIVE SERGEANT 546 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:41,786 >> Reporter: DETECTIVE SERGEANT BRETT LANGEVIN, LIEUTENANT 547 00:13:41,788 --> 00:13:42,854 BRETT LANGEVIN, LIEUTENANT BILL UTERMARCK, AND JEFF PAYETTE 548 00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:45,490 BILL UTERMARCK, AND JEFF PAYETTE WERE DETECTIVES AT THE TIME AND 549 00:13:45,492 --> 00:13:47,058 WERE DETECTIVES AT THE TIME AND ALSO ASSIGNED TO THE CASE. 550 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:48,660 ALSO ASSIGNED TO THE CASE. JOB ONE FOR PAYETTE AND 551 00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:49,694 JOB ONE FOR PAYETTE AND LANGEVIN -- GET OVER TO THE 552 00:13:49,696 --> 00:13:50,762 LANGEVIN -- GET OVER TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE DOCTORS WERE 553 00:13:50,764 --> 00:13:52,297 HOSPITAL WHERE DOCTORS WERE TREATING RICK. 554 00:13:52,299 --> 00:13:53,431 TREATING RICK. WHAT DO YOU WANNA FIND OUT FROM 555 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:54,699 WHAT DO YOU WANNA FIND OUT FROM THE HUSBAND, SINCE HE WAS -- HE 556 00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:55,500 THE HUSBAND, SINCE HE WAS -- HE WAS IN THE HOUSE WHEN THE POLICE 557 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:57,068 WAS IN THE HOUSE WHEN THE POLICE ARRIVED? 558 00:13:57,070 --> 00:13:58,169 ARRIVED? >> EVERYTHING HE KNOWS 559 00:13:58,171 --> 00:13:59,938 >> EVERYTHING HE KNOWS HE'S THE BEST WITNESS. 560 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,339 HE'S THE BEST WITNESS. HE'S A VICTIM. 561 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,441 HE'S A VICTIM. HE COULD POTENTIALLY TELL US WHO 562 00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:05,877 HE COULD POTENTIALLY TELL US WHO DID IT 563 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,145 DID IT >> Reporter: OR AT LEAST PROVIDE 564 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:08,179 >> Reporter: OR AT LEAST PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE INTRUDER. 565 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:09,247 A DESCRIPTION OF THE INTRUDER. >> THE SOONER WE GET THAT 566 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:10,849 >> THE SOONER WE GET THAT INFORMATION AND GET IT OUT TO 567 00:14:10,851 --> 00:14:12,617 INFORMATION AND GET IT OUT TO EVERYBODY, THE BETTER OFF 568 00:14:12,619 --> 00:14:13,484 EVERYBODY, THE BETTER OFF EVERYONE IS. 569 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:14,552 EVERYONE IS. >> Reporter: THE QUESTION WAS, 570 00:14:14,554 --> 00:14:16,120 >> Reporter: THE QUESTION WAS, HOW SOON COULD THEY GET IT 571 00:14:16,122 --> 00:14:17,689 HOW SOON COULD THEY GET IT RICK WAS LYING IN A HOSPITAL 572 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:18,723 RICK WAS LYING IN A HOSPITAL BED. 573 00:14:18,725 --> 00:14:22,460 BED. WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WOULD HE BE 574 00:14:22,462 --> 00:14:25,063 WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WOULD HE BE ABLE TO TELL POLICE? 575 00:14:25,065 --> 00:14:26,130 ABLE TO TELL POLICE? >>> COMING UP -- 576 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,732 >>> COMING UP -- RICK RECOUNTS WALKING INTO A 577 00:14:27,734 --> 00:14:29,334 RICK RECOUNTS WALKING INTO A CLOSET AND DISCOVERING A MASKED 578 00:14:29,336 --> 00:14:32,503 CLOSET AND DISCOVERING A MASKED MAN. 579 00:14:32,505 --> 00:14:33,538 MAN. >> HE WAS BIG. 580 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:35,673 >> HE WAS BIG. >> AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING 581 00:14:35,675 --> 00:14:37,775 >> AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THE MAN'S MASK COULDN'T COVER. 582 00:14:37,777 --> 00:14:39,811 THE MAN'S MASK COULDN'T COVER. >> I JUST HEARD THIS LITTLE, 583 00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:57,295 >> I JUST HEARD THIS LITTLE, DEEP, VIN DIESEL-LIKE VOICE. 584 00:14:57,297 --> 00:14:57,862 DEEP, VIN DIESEL-LIKE VOICE. >> Reporter: HOURS AFTER THE 585 00:14:57,864 --> 00:14:59,397 >> Reporter: HOURS AFTER THE ATTACK AT CONNIE AND 586 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:00,965 ATTACK AT CONNIE AND RICK DABATE'S HOUSE, DETECTIVES 587 00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:02,533 RICK DABATE'S HOUSE, DETECTIVES WERE INSIDE AN E.R 588 00:15:02,535 --> 00:15:03,167 WERE INSIDE AN E.R RICK HAD SUFFERED WOUNDS TO HIS 589 00:15:03,169 --> 00:15:04,369 RICK HAD SUFFERED WOUNDS TO HIS LEGS, SHOULDER, AND THE BACK OF 590 00:15:04,371 --> 00:15:07,839 LEGS, SHOULDER, AND THE BACK OF HIS HEAD 591 00:15:07,841 --> 00:15:09,407 HIS HEAD BUT HE WAS CONSCIOUS 592 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,009 BUT HE WAS CONSCIOUS >> HE SEEMED WELL SPOKEN, 593 00:15:11,011 --> 00:15:13,111 >> HE SEEMED WELL SPOKEN, COHERENT 594 00:15:13,113 --> 00:15:14,212 COHERENT WE COULD SEE A LITTLE BIT OF 595 00:15:14,214 --> 00:15:15,179 WE COULD SEE A LITTLE BIT OF BLOOD ON ONE OF -- ON THE SIDE 596 00:15:15,181 --> 00:15:16,247 BLOOD ON ONE OF -- ON THE SIDE OF HIS CHEEK, SOME BLOOD ON HIS 597 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:17,315 OF HIS CHEEK, SOME BLOOD ON HIS HANDS. 598 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:18,383 HANDS. >> Reporter: DETECTIVES 599 00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:19,450 >> Reporter: DETECTIVES JEFF PAYETTE AND BRETT LANGEVIN 600 00:15:19,452 --> 00:15:20,518 JEFF PAYETTE AND BRETT LANGEVIN NEEDED RICK TO TELL THEM WHAT 601 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,586 NEEDED RICK TO TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED 602 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:22,654 HAPPENED >> I SAW CONNIE ON THE GROUND, 603 00:15:22,656 --> 00:15:24,756 >> I SAW CONNIE ON THE GROUND, AND I CAN'T GET THAT IMAGE OUT 604 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:25,823 AND I CAN'T GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY MIND 605 00:15:25,825 --> 00:15:27,926 OF MY MIND >> Reporter: WITH A RECORDER 606 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,028 >> Reporter: WITH A RECORDER ROLLING, THE DETECTIVES LISTENED 607 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:32,163 ROLLING, THE DETECTIVES LISTENED AS RICK WENT BACK OVER THAT 608 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:34,265 AS RICK WENT BACK OVER THAT MORNING GETTING THE KIDS OFF TO 609 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:35,667 MORNING GETTING THE KIDS OFF TO SCHOOL, WATCHING CONNIE GET 610 00:15:35,669 --> 00:15:37,435 SCHOOL, WATCHING CONNIE GET READY FOR THE GYM, DRIVING OFF 611 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:39,037 READY FOR THE GYM, DRIVING OFF TO WORK. 612 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:40,104 TO WORK. HE SAID HE WASN'T TEN MINUTES 613 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:41,306 HE SAID HE WASN'T TEN MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD WHEN HE STOPPED. 614 00:15:41,308 --> 00:15:43,174 DOWN THE ROAD WHEN HE STOPPED. >> I REALIZED I NEED TO GO BACK 615 00:15:43,176 --> 00:15:44,342 >> I REALIZED I NEED TO GO BACK FOR MY LAPTOP. 616 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,611 FOR MY LAPTOP. >> Reporter: AT THE SAME TIME, 617 00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:47,478 >> Reporter: AT THE SAME TIME, HE SAID THE ALERT NOTIFICATIONS 618 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,648 HE SAID THE ALERT NOTIFICATIONS ON HIS PHONE WENT OFF -- TROUBLE 619 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:52,250 ON HIS PHONE WENT OFF -- TROUBLE WITH HIS HOME SECURITY SYSTEM. 620 00:15:52,252 --> 00:15:54,352 WITH HIS HOME SECURITY SYSTEM. >> SHOT AN EMAIL TO MY BOSS 621 00:15:54,354 --> 00:15:54,953 >> SHOT AN EMAIL TO MY BOSS SAYING THAT I'LL BE LATE, KIND 622 00:15:54,955 --> 00:15:55,954 SAYING THAT I'LL BE LATE, KIND OF TOLD HER I NEEDED TO CHECK 623 00:15:55,956 --> 00:15:59,290 OF TOLD HER I NEEDED TO CHECK OUT SOME THINGS ON MY SECURITY 624 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:00,658 OUT SOME THINGS ON MY SECURITY SYSTEM 625 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:02,961 SYSTEM >> Reporter: HE DROVE BACK HOME, 626 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,395 >> Reporter: HE DROVE BACK HOME, HEADED INSIDE, AND HEARD A NOISE 627 00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:04,929 HEADED INSIDE, AND HEARD A NOISE UPSTAIRS 628 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,031 UPSTAIRS >> THE CATS MAKE A LOUD, 629 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:09,167 >> THE CATS MAKE A LOUD, OBNOXIOUS MESS 630 00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:10,735 OBNOXIOUS MESS I FIGURED IT WAS JUST THE CATS 631 00:16:10,737 --> 00:16:11,903 I FIGURED IT WAS JUST THE CATS >> HE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS THE 632 00:16:11,905 --> 00:16:13,371 >> HE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS THE CATS BECAUSE IT WASN'T UNCOMMON 633 00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:15,640 CATS BECAUSE IT WASN'T UNCOMMON FOR THEM TO KNOCK THINGS OVER 634 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:16,107 FOR THEM TO KNOCK THINGS OVER AND -- AND MAKE NOISE. 635 00:16:16,109 --> 00:16:18,543 AND -- AND MAKE NOISE. >> Reporter: SO HE WENT TO CHECK 636 00:16:18,545 --> 00:16:19,210 >> Reporter: SO HE WENT TO CHECK IT OUT 637 00:16:19,212 --> 00:16:26,084 IT OUT HE SAYS THE CATS WEREN'T THERE, 638 00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:27,151 HE SAYS THE CATS WEREN'T THERE, BUT SOMEONE WAS. 639 00:16:27,153 --> 00:16:28,219 BUT SOMEONE WAS. >> WHEN YOU FIRST WALK INTO OUR 640 00:16:28,221 --> 00:16:29,220 >> WHEN YOU FIRST WALK INTO OUR BEDROOM, THERE'S A WALK-IN 641 00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:30,822 BEDROOM, THERE'S A WALK-IN CLOSET RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME -- 642 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:32,390 CLOSET RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME -- US 643 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:36,627 US THAT LIGHT WAS ON TOO WHEN I 644 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:37,695 THAT LIGHT WAS ON TOO WHEN I OPENED UP, AND THERE'S THIS 645 00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:39,263 OPENED UP, AND THERE'S THIS CAMOUFLAGED DUDE IN -- 646 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:40,331 CAMOUFLAGED DUDE IN -- >> IN YOUR CLOSET? 647 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:41,933 >> IN YOUR CLOSET? >> YES 648 00:16:41,935 --> 00:16:42,967 >> YES JUST LOOKING AROUND FOR 649 00:16:42,969 --> 00:16:44,035 JUST LOOKING AROUND FOR ANYTHING, TRYING TO FIND 650 00:16:44,037 --> 00:16:45,103 ANYTHING, TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, 651 00:16:45,105 --> 00:16:46,170 SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING OF VALUE 652 00:16:46,172 --> 00:16:47,205 SOMETHING OF VALUE >> DID YOU WATCH HIM FOR A 653 00:16:47,207 --> 00:16:48,306 >> DID YOU WATCH HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE 654 00:16:48,308 --> 00:16:49,307 LITTLE WHILE >> NO. 655 00:16:49,309 --> 00:16:50,875 >> NO. NO, I OPENED THE DOOR PRETTY 656 00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:58,416 NO, I OPENED THE DOOR PRETTY QUICK. 657 00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:01,719 QUICK. THIS IS WHERE IT ALL JUST GETS 658 00:17:01,721 --> 00:17:02,587 THIS IS WHERE IT ALL JUST GETS SO -- I NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE 659 00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:03,721 SO -- I NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN. 660 00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:06,858 THIS HAPPEN. I -- I JUST -- 661 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:07,658 I -- I JUST -- >> TAKE YOUR TIME. 662 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,659 >> TAKE YOUR TIME. >> Reporter: RICK SAID THE MAN 663 00:17:08,661 --> 00:17:09,727 >> Reporter: RICK SAID THE MAN WAS A HUGE, HULKING GUY. 664 00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:11,362 WAS A HUGE, HULKING GUY. >> HE WAS BIG. 665 00:17:11,364 --> 00:17:12,930 >> HE WAS BIG. >> Reporter: BUT THAT WAS ALL HE 666 00:17:12,932 --> 00:17:13,998 >> Reporter: BUT THAT WAS ALL HE COULD SHARE AS FAR AS PHYSICAL 667 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,033 COULD SHARE AS FAR AS PHYSICAL APPEARANCE BECAUSE HE SAID THE 668 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:15,566 APPEARANCE BECAUSE HE SAID THE INTRUDER WORE A MASK 669 00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:16,634 INTRUDER WORE A MASK >> HE DID NOT DESCRIBE SKIN 670 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:18,603 >> HE DID NOT DESCRIBE SKIN COLOR OR ANY OTHER DESCRIPTORS 671 00:17:18,605 --> 00:17:19,237 COLOR OR ANY OTHER DESCRIPTORS >> Reporter: BUT IF RICK 672 00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:20,338 >> Reporter: BUT IF RICK COULDN'T DESCRIBE THE MAN'S 673 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:21,706 COULDN'T DESCRIBE THE MAN'S FACE - 674 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,474 FACE - HIS VOICE -- THAT HE COULD 675 00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:24,709 HIS VOICE -- THAT HE COULD DESCRIBE 676 00:17:24,711 --> 00:17:26,677 DESCRIBE >> I JUST HEARD THIS -- THIS 677 00:17:26,679 --> 00:17:27,745 >> I JUST HEARD THIS -- THIS DEEP, VIN DIESEL-LIKE VOICE. 678 00:17:27,747 --> 00:17:29,814 DEEP, VIN DIESEL-LIKE VOICE. >> WORD ON THE STREET IS YOU GOT 679 00:17:29,816 --> 00:17:30,848 >> WORD ON THE STREET IS YOU GOT LOCKED UP. 680 00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:33,017 LOCKED UP. >> Reporter: VIN DIESEL, THE 681 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:33,618 >> Reporter: VIN DIESEL, THE MEGAWATT HOLLYWOOD STAR OF THE 682 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:36,721 MEGAWATT HOLLYWOOD STAR OF THE HIT "FAST & FURIOUS" FILM 683 00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:37,755 HIT "FAST & FURIOUS" FILM FRANCHISE. 684 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:40,391 FRANCHISE. HIS DEEP, GRAVELY VOICE IS 685 00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:42,260 HIS DEEP, GRAVELY VOICE IS INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE 686 00:17:42,262 --> 00:17:44,128 INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE >> YOU GET INVOLVED HERE, YOU 687 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:45,430 >> YOU GET INVOLVED HERE, YOU PUT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE AT RISK. 688 00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:46,731 PUT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE AT RISK. >> Reporter: IT'S AN INTERESTING 689 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,366 >> Reporter: IT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO DESCRIBE A VOICE. 690 00:17:48,368 --> 00:17:49,367 WAY TO DESCRIBE A VOICE. >> VERY SPECIFIC 691 00:17:49,369 --> 00:17:50,935 >> VERY SPECIFIC >> Reporter: SO YOU'RE LOOKING 692 00:17:50,937 --> 00:17:54,172 >> Reporter: SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LARGE MAN, DEEP VOICE, IN 693 00:17:54,174 --> 00:17:55,206 FOR A LARGE MAN, DEEP VOICE, IN CAMOUFLAGE 694 00:17:55,208 --> 00:17:56,240 CAMOUFLAGE >> OBESE TO STOCKY, OVER SIX 695 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:57,842 >> OBESE TO STOCKY, OVER SIX FOOT TALL, COVERED IN GREEN 696 00:17:57,844 --> 00:17:59,944 FOOT TALL, COVERED IN GREEN CAMOUFLAGE, WITH A DEEP VOICE. 697 00:17:59,946 --> 00:18:02,413 CAMOUFLAGE, WITH A DEEP VOICE. >> Reporter: THAT'S SCARY. 698 00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:03,147 >> Reporter: THAT'S SCARY. >> YES 699 00:18:03,149 --> 00:18:04,749 >> YES >> Reporter: HE TOLD DETECTIVES 700 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:06,551 >> Reporter: HE TOLD DETECTIVES THE VIN DIESEL INTRUDER WAS 701 00:18:06,553 --> 00:18:08,453 THE VIN DIESEL INTRUDER WAS HOLDING A KNIFE, DEMANDING 702 00:18:08,455 --> 00:18:10,054 HOLDING A KNIFE, DEMANDING RICK'S WALLET AND PINS 703 00:18:10,056 --> 00:18:11,589 RICK'S WALLET AND PINS >> HE SAID, "YOU'RE GOING TO 704 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:12,623 >> HE SAID, "YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME WHAT I WANT, OR I'M 705 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:13,691 GIVE ME WHAT I WANT, OR I'M GOING SIT HERE QUIETLY AND WAIT 706 00:18:13,693 --> 00:18:14,759 GOING SIT HERE QUIETLY AND WAIT FOR YOUR FAMILY TO GET HOME. 707 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:15,793 FOR YOUR FAMILY TO GET HOME. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHEN HE 708 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:16,894 >> Reporter: THAT'S WHEN HE HEARD IT -- THE GARAGE DOOR 709 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:19,530 HEARD IT -- THE GARAGE DOOR OPENING BELOW, CONNIE WALKING 710 00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:20,598 OPENING BELOW, CONNIE WALKING INTO THE HOUSE 711 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,200 INTO THE HOUSE >> SO I YELLED TO HER TO GET OUT 712 00:18:22,202 --> 00:18:23,768 >> SO I YELLED TO HER TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE 713 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:27,305 OF THE HOUSE MY WIFE DIDN'T RUN 714 00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:28,005 MY WIFE DIDN'T RUN SHE MUST HAVE RAN INTO THE 715 00:18:28,007 --> 00:18:29,607 SHE MUST HAVE RAN INTO THE BASEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WE 716 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:31,442 BASEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TWO GUNS IN THE HOUSE 717 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,009 HAVE TWO GUNS IN THE HOUSE ONE WAS IN THE BASEMENT IN A 718 00:18:32,011 --> 00:18:33,311 ONE WAS IN THE BASEMENT IN A LOCKBOX, AND ONE IS IN OUR 719 00:18:33,313 --> 00:18:34,879 LOCKBOX, AND ONE IS IN OUR CLOSET 720 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:37,014 CLOSET SHE RAN DOWNSTAIRS 721 00:18:37,016 --> 00:18:38,082 SHE RAN DOWNSTAIRS >> Reporter: RATHER THAN SAVING 722 00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:39,617 >> Reporter: RATHER THAN SAVING HERSELF, CONNIE WAS APPARENTLY 723 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:40,952 HERSELF, CONNIE WAS APPARENTLY TRYING TO SAVE HER HUSBAND 724 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:42,386 TRYING TO SAVE HER HUSBAND RICK SAID THE INTRUDER KNOCKED 725 00:18:42,388 --> 00:18:43,888 RICK SAID THE INTRUDER KNOCKED HIM TO THE GROUND AND CHASED 726 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:45,456 HIM TO THE GROUND AND CHASED AFTER CONNIE 727 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:46,491 AFTER CONNIE HE SAID HE STAGGERED BEHIND, 728 00:18:46,493 --> 00:18:49,160 HE SAID HE STAGGERED BEHIND, CATCHING UP WITH THEM IN THE 729 00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:51,295 CATCHING UP WITH THEM IN THE BASEMENT 730 00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:54,398 BASEMENT >> I -- SORRY -- AROUND THE 731 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:01,339 >> I -- SORRY -- AROUND THE CORNER I JUST -- LIKE, I JUST 732 00:19:01,341 --> 00:19:02,373 CORNER I JUST -- LIKE, I JUST HEAR, LIKE, THE LOUDEST BANG 733 00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:03,875 HEAR, LIKE, THE LOUDEST BANG AND I SAW MY WIFE GO -- I THINK 734 00:19:03,877 --> 00:19:04,475 AND I SAW MY WIFE GO -- I THINK I SAW HER LAYING ON THE GROUND 735 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:05,543 I SAW HER LAYING ON THE GROUND I -- I DON'T KNOW. 736 00:19:05,545 --> 00:19:06,611 I -- I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T HEAR HER AT ALL AFTER 737 00:19:06,613 --> 00:19:07,812 I DIDN'T HEAR HER AT ALL AFTER THAT 738 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:09,280 THAT >> Reporter: SUDDENLY, HE SAID, 739 00:19:09,282 --> 00:19:12,416 >> Reporter: SUDDENLY, HE SAID, THE MAN WAS BACK ON HIM. 740 00:19:12,418 --> 00:19:14,018 THE MAN WAS BACK ON HIM. >> MY EARS WERE RINGING. 741 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:15,620 >> MY EARS WERE RINGING. AND THEN THEY -- HE -- HE'S -- 742 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:19,824 AND THEN THEY -- HE -- HE'S -- PUTS ME IN THIS, LIKE, NECK ARM 743 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:22,994 PUTS ME IN THIS, LIKE, NECK ARM THING. 744 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:24,595 THING. I COULDN'T GET OUT OF IT 745 00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:27,231 I COULDN'T GET OUT OF IT AND HE JUST GUIDED ME OVER TO 746 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,333 AND HE JUST GUIDED ME OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE, THREW ME IN A 747 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:30,401 THE OTHER SIDE, THREW ME IN A CHAIR, AND STARTED USING MY 748 00:19:30,403 --> 00:19:32,003 CHAIR, AND STARTED USING MY OWN -- TOOLS ON ME 749 00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:32,904 OWN -- TOOLS ON ME >> WHAT TYPE OF CHAIR WAS IT 750 00:19:32,906 --> 00:19:36,174 >> WHAT TYPE OF CHAIR WAS IT DO YOU REMEMBER? 751 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:37,241 DO YOU REMEMBER? >> UH, UM, FOLDING CHAIR 752 00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:39,410 >> UH, UM, FOLDING CHAIR >> Reporter: THEN RICK DESCRIBED 753 00:19:39,412 --> 00:19:41,612 >> Reporter: THEN RICK DESCRIBED HOW THE INTRUDER TIED HIM TO THE 754 00:19:41,614 --> 00:19:42,580 HOW THE INTRUDER TIED HIM TO THE CHAIR WITH ZIP TIES, STABBED HIM 755 00:19:42,582 --> 00:19:44,148 CHAIR WITH ZIP TIES, STABBED HIM WITH A BOX CUTTER, AND BURNED 756 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:45,183 WITH A BOX CUTTER, AND BURNED HIM WITH A HANDHELD BLOWTORCH, 757 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:47,285 HIM WITH A HANDHELD BLOWTORCH, ALL FROM A BAG OF TOOLS RICK 758 00:19:47,287 --> 00:19:49,820 ALL FROM A BAG OF TOOLS RICK KEPT IN THE BASEMENT 759 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,556 KEPT IN THE BASEMENT >> I'M SITTING IN THE CHAIR 760 00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:54,759 >> I'M SITTING IN THE CHAIR HALF -- I WAS KIND OF HALF TIED 761 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:55,793 HALF -- I WAS KIND OF HALF TIED UP AND IN SHOCK, I GUESS 762 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:57,395 UP AND IN SHOCK, I GUESS >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN HALF TIED 763 00:19:57,397 --> 00:19:58,930 >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN HALF TIED UP 764 00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:00,031 UP >> I HAD ONE LEG FREE AND AN ARM 765 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:06,904 >> I HAD ONE LEG FREE AND AN ARM FREE 766 00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:07,972 FREE HE TIED ONE LEG. 767 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:09,540 HE TIED ONE LEG. HE TIED ONE ARM, AND THEN HE 768 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,541 HE TIED ONE ARM, AND THEN HE TIED MY -- MY NECK FAIRLY TIGHT 769 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:12,543 TIED MY -- MY NECK FAIRLY TIGHT WITH TIE WRAP. 770 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:13,744 WITH TIE WRAP. >> Reporter: RICK SAID HE USED 771 00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:14,745 >> Reporter: RICK SAID HE USED HIS FREE ARM TO FIGHT BACK 772 00:20:14,747 --> 00:20:15,880 HIS FREE ARM TO FIGHT BACK >> AND I -- I GOT THE TORCH TO 773 00:20:15,882 --> 00:20:16,914 >> AND I -- I GOT THE TORCH TO KIND OF JUST BLOW IN HIS MASK A 774 00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:18,182 KIND OF JUST BLOW IN HIS MASK A LITTLE BIT, AND IT CAUGHT ON 775 00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:19,050 LITTLE BIT, AND IT CAUGHT ON FIRE 776 00:20:19,052 --> 00:20:20,084 FIRE HE DROPPED THE BLOWTORCH 777 00:20:20,086 --> 00:20:21,118 HE DROPPED THE BLOWTORCH >> Reporter: DROPPED THE 778 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:22,220 >> Reporter: DROPPED THE BLOWTORCH AND RAN. 779 00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:23,254 BLOWTORCH AND RAN. >> I WAS STARTING TO SCREAM FOR 780 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:24,288 >> I WAS STARTING TO SCREAM FOR HELP 781 00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:25,356 HELP I SCREAMED FOR HELP, YOU KNOW. 782 00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:27,491 I SCREAMED FOR HELP, YOU KNOW. I COULDN'T HEAR A SOUL 783 00:20:27,493 --> 00:20:28,326 I COULDN'T HEAR A SOUL I GOT REALLY, REALLY DIZZY 784 00:20:28,328 --> 00:20:29,594 I GOT REALLY, REALLY DIZZY >> Reporter: RICK SAID HE THEN 785 00:20:29,596 --> 00:20:31,195 >> Reporter: RICK SAID HE THEN CRAWLED UPSTAIRS, STILL 786 00:20:31,197 --> 00:20:32,763 CRAWLED UPSTAIRS, STILL PARTIALLY ZIP TIED TO THE CHAIR, 787 00:20:32,765 --> 00:20:38,069 PARTIALLY ZIP TIED TO THE CHAIR, TRIGGERED THE HOME ALARM AND 788 00:20:38,071 --> 00:20:38,569 TRIGGERED THE HOME ALARM AND CALLED 911 789 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,204 CALLED 911 YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS YOU 790 00:20:40,206 --> 00:20:40,905 YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT -- 791 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:41,739 HAVE TO CHECK OUT -- >> WE DO 792 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,341 >> WE DO >> Reporter: -- AND CORROBORATE 793 00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:44,842 >> Reporter: -- AND CORROBORATE FROM HIS STORY 794 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:45,977 FROM HIS STORY >> WE HAVE TO PROCESS THE SCENE. 795 00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:47,044 >> WE HAVE TO PROCESS THE SCENE. WE HAVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE, 796 00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:48,512 WE HAVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE, INTERVIEW PEOPLE, LOOK UP 797 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:52,917 INTERVIEW PEOPLE, LOOK UP ELECTRONIC DATA, EXPLORE EVERY 798 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:53,117 ELECTRONIC DATA, EXPLORE EVERY OPTION 799 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,986 OPTION >> Reporter: AS RICK WAS 800 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:55,620 >> Reporter: AS RICK WAS SPEAKING TO THE DETECTIVES, HIS 801 00:20:55,622 --> 00:20:56,254 SPEAKING TO THE DETECTIVES, HIS PARENTS WERE TRYING TO FIND HIM. 802 00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:58,155 PARENTS WERE TRYING TO FIND HIM. ALL THEY KNEW WAS THAT HE HAD 803 00:20:58,157 --> 00:20:59,724 ALL THEY KNEW WAS THAT HE HAD BEEN TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL 804 00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:05,563 BEEN TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL >> WHEN I FINALLY GOT TO THE 805 00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:06,564 >> WHEN I FINALLY GOT TO THE HOSPITAL, TO -- TO THE -- TO THE 806 00:21:06,566 --> 00:21:08,165 HOSPITAL, TO -- TO THE -- TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, THEY ASKED TO 807 00:21:08,167 --> 00:21:09,767 EMERGENCY ROOM, THEY ASKED TO SEE HIM. 808 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:10,835 SEE HIM. AND THEY STILL WOULDN'T LET US 809 00:21:10,837 --> 00:21:11,902 AND THEY STILL WOULDN'T LET US SEE HIM YET. 810 00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:12,937 SEE HIM YET. WE WAITED IN EMERGENCY ROOM FOR 811 00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:14,005 WE WAITED IN EMERGENCY ROOM FOR A COUPLE MORE HOURS BEFORE THEY 812 00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:15,106 A COUPLE MORE HOURS BEFORE THEY WERE LEADING HIM OUT OF THE 813 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:16,707 WERE LEADING HIM OUT OF THE ROOM 814 00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:17,308 ROOM HE'S ASKIN' ME, "WHERE ARE THE 815 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:18,276 HE'S ASKIN' ME, "WHERE ARE THE BOYS?" 816 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:19,310 BOYS?" I SAYS, "MOM HAS THE BOYS. 817 00:21:19,312 --> 00:21:20,378 I SAYS, "MOM HAS THE BOYS. THEY'RE AT THE HOUSE." 818 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:21,445 THEY'RE AT THE HOUSE." >> Reporter: TO HIS PARENTS' 819 00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:22,513 >> Reporter: TO HIS PARENTS' RELIEF, RICK'S INJURIES WERE NOT 820 00:21:22,515 --> 00:21:24,081 RELIEF, RICK'S INJURIES WERE NOT SEVERE AND HE WAS DISCHARGED 821 00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,149 SEVERE AND HE WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL THE SAME DAY 822 00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:26,150 FROM THE HOSPITAL THE SAME DAY HIS FIRST STOP WAS HIS AUNT 823 00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:27,752 HIS FIRST STOP WAS HIS AUNT JANICE'S HOUSE TO CLEAN UP 824 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:28,352 JANICE'S HOUSE TO CLEAN UP HE DIDN'T WANT HIS SONS TO SEE 825 00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:29,320 HE DIDN'T WANT HIS SONS TO SEE HIM BLOODY AND BRUISED 826 00:21:29,322 --> 00:21:31,422 HIM BLOODY AND BRUISED HIS COUSIN LAURIE WAS ALSO 827 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:32,490 HIS COUSIN LAURIE WAS ALSO THERE. 828 00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:34,025 THERE. >> HE WAS DEVASTATED 829 00:21:34,027 --> 00:21:36,260 >> HE WAS DEVASTATED HE WAS IN TEARS. 830 00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:37,295 HE WAS IN TEARS. HE WAS JUST A MESS 831 00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:39,363 HE WAS JUST A MESS HE WAS STUNNED BY EVERYTHING 832 00:21:39,365 --> 00:21:39,964 HE WAS STUNNED BY EVERYTHING TOO. 833 00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:41,032 TOO. IF HE SAID IT ONCE, HE MUST'VE 834 00:21:41,034 --> 00:21:42,300 IF HE SAID IT ONCE, HE MUST'VE SAID IT 50 TIMES 835 00:21:42,302 --> 00:21:44,735 SAID IT 50 TIMES "HOW ARE MY BOYS 836 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:47,905 "HOW ARE MY BOYS HOW ARE MY BOYS? 837 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:48,973 HOW ARE MY BOYS? >> Reporter: LATER THAT NIGHT, 838 00:21:48,975 --> 00:21:50,007 >> Reporter: LATER THAT NIGHT, RICK WENT TO HIS PARENT'S PLACE. 839 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:51,075 RICK WENT TO HIS PARENT'S PLACE. HE SAT HIS TWO BOYS DOWN AND 840 00:21:51,077 --> 00:21:52,176 HE SAT HIS TWO BOYS DOWN AND TOLD THEM WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR 841 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:54,812 TOLD THEM WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MOM. 842 00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:55,813 MOM. >> IT WASN'T EASY. 843 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:59,483 >> IT WASN'T EASY. AND THEY WERE VERY YOUNG TO 844 00:21:59,485 --> 00:22:01,585 AND THEY WERE VERY YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT 845 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:03,220 UNDERSTAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND RICK TOLD THEM THAT, 846 00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:05,856 AND RICK TOLD THEM THAT, "SOMEONE CAME INTO THE HOUSE AND 847 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:09,026 "SOMEONE CAME INTO THE HOUSE AND HURT MOMMY, AND I COULDN'T HELP 848 00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:10,061 HURT MOMMY, AND I COULDN'T HELP HER, AND SHE'S GONE. 849 00:22:10,063 --> 00:22:11,629 HER, AND SHE'S GONE. AND ONE OF THEM, I THINK, SAID, 850 00:22:11,631 --> 00:22:13,230 AND ONE OF THEM, I THINK, SAID, "MOMMY'S DEAD? 851 00:22:13,232 --> 00:22:14,799 "MOMMY'S DEAD? AND RICK SAID, "YES. 852 00:22:14,801 --> 00:22:16,067 AND RICK SAID, "YES. >> Reporter: IT MUST HAVE BROKEN 853 00:22:16,069 --> 00:22:16,901 >> Reporter: IT MUST HAVE BROKEN YOUR HEART TO SEE THOSE LITTLE 854 00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:18,536 YOUR HEART TO SEE THOSE LITTLE BOYS' FACES. 855 00:22:18,538 --> 00:22:19,603 BOYS' FACES. >> YEAH. 856 00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:21,706 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: TRAGIC AND 857 00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:23,841 >> Reporter: TRAGIC AND HEARTBREAKING. 858 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,443 HEARTBREAKING. MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE DABATE 859 00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:27,478 MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE DABATE HOUSE, THE CRIME SCENE TAPE WAS 860 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,080 HOUSE, THE CRIME SCENE TAPE WAS UP AND THE FLOOD LIGHTS WERE ON. 861 00:22:29,082 --> 00:22:30,715 UP AND THE FLOOD LIGHTS WERE ON. IT WAS GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT 862 00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:32,850 IT WAS GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT SCOURING FOR EVIDENCE AND CLUES 863 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:33,851 SCOURING FOR EVIDENCE AND CLUES AND TALKING TO NEIGHBORS 864 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:35,486 AND TALKING TO NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORS WHO HAD STORIES TO 865 00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:37,722 NEIGHBORS WHO HAD STORIES TO TELL 866 00:22:37,724 --> 00:22:38,356 TELL STORIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY LEAD 867 00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:41,826 STORIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY LEAD DETECTIVES TO THAT DEEP-VOICED 868 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:44,462 DETECTIVES TO THAT DEEP-VOICED INTRUDER 869 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:46,330 INTRUDER >>> COMING UP -- 870 00:22:46,332 --> 00:22:47,098 >>> COMING UP -- ONE STORY WAS ABOUT THE DABATES 871 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:48,132 ONE STORY WAS ABOUT THE DABATES AND SOMEONE THEY HIRED 872 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:49,734 AND SOMEONE THEY HIRED >> THEY WERE HAVING AN ARGUMENT 873 00:22:49,736 --> 00:22:50,768 >> THEY WERE HAVING AN ARGUMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. 874 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:52,870 WITH THE CONTRACTOR. >> A SPIRALING SITUATION, 875 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:55,706 >> A SPIRALING SITUATION, SPARKING REAL FEAR 876 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:56,607 SPARKING REAL FEAR >> THIS CONTRACTOR WAS SO OUT OF 877 00:22:56,609 --> 00:23:14,458 >> THIS CONTRACTOR WAS SO OUT OF CONTROL THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD 878 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:16,594 CONTROL THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD >> Reporter: IN THE SEARCH FOR 879 00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:18,162 >> Reporter: IN THE SEARCH FOR CONNIE DABATE'S KILLER, POLICE 880 00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:19,230 CONNIE DABATE'S KILLER, POLICE HAD FANNED OUT AND CANVASSED THE 881 00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:21,866 HAD FANNED OUT AND CANVASSED THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING FOR ANYONE 882 00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:22,900 NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO HAD SEEN SOMETHING 883 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:23,968 WHO HAD SEEN SOMETHING WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT NO ONE 884 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:24,535 WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT NO ONE SAW ANYTHING 885 00:23:24,537 --> 00:23:26,070 SAW ANYTHING >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 886 00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:28,672 >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SURPRISE 887 00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:29,306 SURPRISE >> I MEAN, THAT TIME OF MORNING 888 00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:30,841 >> I MEAN, THAT TIME OF MORNING AT THE SCENE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 889 00:23:30,843 --> 00:23:32,510 AT THE SCENE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK IN THAT 890 00:23:32,512 --> 00:23:32,977 PEOPLE WORK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD 891 00:23:32,979 --> 00:23:34,044 NEIGHBORHOOD SO THERE COULD'VE BEEN A VERY 892 00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:35,646 SO THERE COULD'VE BEEN A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT JUST NOBODY WAS 893 00:23:35,648 --> 00:23:36,680 GOOD CHANCE THAT JUST NOBODY WAS AROUND AT THAT TIME. 894 00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:39,517 AROUND AT THAT TIME. >> Reporter: WHILE THE 895 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:40,384 >> Reporter: WHILE THE CANVASSING TROOPERS HAD STRUCK 896 00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,585 CANVASSING TROOPERS HAD STRUCK OUT, THE MAJOR CRIMES SQUAD WAS 897 00:23:41,587 --> 00:23:43,554 OUT, THE MAJOR CRIMES SQUAD WAS GATHERING EVIDENCE AT THE HOUSE, 898 00:23:43,556 --> 00:23:45,289 GATHERING EVIDENCE AT THE HOUSE, DUSTING FOR FINGERPRINTS, 899 00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:47,792 DUSTING FOR FINGERPRINTS, SWABBING FOR DNA, AND 900 00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:49,059 SWABBING FOR DNA, AND PHOTOGRAPHING THE ENTIRE SCENE, 901 00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:50,961 PHOTOGRAPHING THE ENTIRE SCENE, INCLUDING WHERE THE INTRUDER MAY 902 00:23:50,963 --> 00:23:54,965 INCLUDING WHERE THE INTRUDER MAY HAVE SNEAKED INSIDE. 903 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:57,268 HAVE SNEAKED INSIDE. YOU JUST NOTICED THAT IT WAS -- 904 00:23:57,270 --> 00:24:00,271 YOU JUST NOTICED THAT IT WAS -- THE WINDOW WAS OPEN? 905 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:01,305 THE WINDOW WAS OPEN? >> YES, INTO THE BASEMENT. 906 00:24:01,307 --> 00:24:02,373 >> YES, INTO THE BASEMENT. >> Reporter: THE BASEMENT DOOR 907 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:02,840 >> Reporter: THE BASEMENT DOOR WAS ALSO OPEN. 908 00:24:02,842 --> 00:24:03,908 WAS ALSO OPEN. THIS IS WHERE RICK SAYS THE -- 909 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:05,009 THIS IS WHERE RICK SAYS THE -- THE ASSAILANT CAME OUT OF THE 910 00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:06,076 THE ASSAILANT CAME OUT OF THE HOUSE? 911 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,111 HOUSE? >> YES 912 00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:08,179 >> YES >> Reporter: RIGHT THERE 913 00:24:08,181 --> 00:24:09,213 >> Reporter: RIGHT THERE >> YES 914 00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:10,681 >> YES >> AND IT -- THEY WERE ACTUALLY 915 00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:11,315 >> AND IT -- THEY WERE ACTUALLY OPEN 916 00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:12,316 OPEN ONE DOOR WAS OPEN AT THE TIME 917 00:24:12,318 --> 00:24:13,517 ONE DOOR WAS OPEN AT THE TIME WHEN WE PROCESSED THE SCENE. 918 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:14,452 WHEN WE PROCESSED THE SCENE. >> Reporter: AND JUST OUTSIDE 919 00:24:14,454 --> 00:24:15,486 >> Reporter: AND JUST OUTSIDE THAT DOOR, POLICE FOUND THIS 920 00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:16,120 THAT DOOR, POLICE FOUND THIS THIS IS THE WALLET FOUND IN THE 921 00:24:16,122 --> 00:24:17,121 THIS IS THE WALLET FOUND IN THE BACKYARD 922 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:17,855 BACKYARD RICK HAD TALKED ABOUT THE 923 00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:18,622 RICK HAD TALKED ABOUT THE ASSAILANT TAKING HIS WALLET? 924 00:24:18,624 --> 00:24:19,723 ASSAILANT TAKING HIS WALLET? >> YES 925 00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:20,758 >> YES YES. 926 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,759 YES. >> Reporter: AND IN THE 927 00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:22,293 >> Reporter: AND IN THE BASEMENT - 928 00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,694 BASEMENT - >> THIS IS THE AREA THAT RICK 929 00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:24,428 >> THIS IS THE AREA THAT RICK HAD TOLD DETECTIVES WHERE HE WAS 930 00:24:24,430 --> 00:24:26,063 HAD TOLD DETECTIVES WHERE HE WAS SEATED IN THE CHAIR, BEING 931 00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:27,164 SEATED IN THE CHAIR, BEING ABUSED 932 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:28,732 ABUSED >> Reporter: THIS IS LIKE A BAD 933 00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:30,367 >> Reporter: THIS IS LIKE A BAD GAME OF CLUE 934 00:24:30,369 --> 00:24:32,436 GAME OF CLUE ALL THESE POTENTIAL WEAPONS? 935 00:24:32,438 --> 00:24:33,504 ALL THESE POTENTIAL WEAPONS? >> YES 936 00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:36,474 >> YES >> MANY OF THEM HAD A -- WOULD 937 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:37,007 >> MANY OF THEM HAD A -- WOULD APPEAR TO BE BLOOD ON THEM 938 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:37,708 APPEAR TO BE BLOOD ON THEM >> Reporter: OKAY. 939 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:38,776 >> Reporter: OKAY. DO YOU -- DID YOU KNOW WHERE 940 00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:39,810 DO YOU -- DID YOU KNOW WHERE THESE DROPLETS CAME FROM, WHO 941 00:24:39,812 --> 00:24:40,845 THESE DROPLETS CAME FROM, WHO THEY CAME FROM AT THE TIME 942 00:24:40,847 --> 00:24:41,912 THEY CAME FROM AT THE TIME >> NOT AT THAT POINT 943 00:24:41,914 --> 00:24:43,514 >> NOT AT THAT POINT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO -- I COULD'VE 944 00:24:43,516 --> 00:24:44,582 WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO -- I COULD'VE BEEN FROM THE ASSAILANT. 945 00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:46,183 BEEN FROM THE ASSAILANT. IT COULD'VE BEEN FROM RICK 946 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:47,184 IT COULD'VE BEEN FROM RICK WE DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT, NO. 947 00:24:47,186 --> 00:24:48,219 WE DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT, NO. >> Reporter: A REVOLVER, THE 948 00:24:48,221 --> 00:24:50,387 >> Reporter: A REVOLVER, THE PRESUMED MURDER WEAPON, WAS 949 00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:51,689 PRESUMED MURDER WEAPON, WAS FOUND NEAR CONNIE'S BODY 950 00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:52,490 FOUND NEAR CONNIE'S BODY SHE HAD BEEN SHOT TWICE -- ONCE 951 00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:55,793 SHE HAD BEEN SHOT TWICE -- ONCE IN THE STOMACH AND ONCE IN THE 952 00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:56,160 IN THE STOMACH AND ONCE IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD 953 00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:57,261 BACK OF THE HEAD ANY OTHER CLUES AROUND HER, 954 00:24:57,263 --> 00:24:58,295 ANY OTHER CLUES AROUND HER, AROUND THE BODY IN THE BASEMENT 955 00:24:58,297 --> 00:24:59,363 AROUND THE BODY IN THE BASEMENT THAT YOU COULD SEE 956 00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:01,465 THAT YOU COULD SEE >> SHE DID HAVE HER CELL PHONE 957 00:25:01,467 --> 00:25:03,067 >> SHE DID HAVE HER CELL PHONE ON HER, TUCKED INTO HER RIGHT 958 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:04,435 ON HER, TUCKED INTO HER RIGHT WAISTBAND. 959 00:25:04,437 --> 00:25:05,169 WAISTBAND. AND SHE ALSO HAD A FITBIT 960 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:06,237 AND SHE ALSO HAD A FITBIT TRACKER CLIPPED TO HER LEFT 961 00:25:06,239 --> 00:25:07,271 TRACKER CLIPPED TO HER LEFT WAISTBAND. 962 00:25:07,273 --> 00:25:08,839 WAISTBAND. >> Reporter: A CELL PHONE AND A 963 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:10,441 >> Reporter: A CELL PHONE AND A FITBIT TRACKER 964 00:25:10,443 --> 00:25:11,509 FITBIT TRACKER DETECTIVES BAGGED THEM ALONG 965 00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:14,144 DETECTIVES BAGGED THEM ALONG WITH OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES IN 966 00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:15,713 WITH OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES IN THE HOUSE. 967 00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:18,883 THE HOUSE. AND THOUGH THE TROOPERS HADN'T 968 00:25:18,885 --> 00:25:21,685 AND THOUGH THE TROOPERS HADN'T FOUND ANY WITNESSES, THEY DID 969 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:22,586 FOUND ANY WITNESSES, THEY DID UNCOVER A SUBSTANTIAL CLUE WHILE 970 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:25,756 UNCOVER A SUBSTANTIAL CLUE WHILE TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS 971 00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:26,824 TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS THE DABATES, IT TURNED OUT, MAY 972 00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:29,860 THE DABATES, IT TURNED OUT, MAY HAVE HAD AN ENEMY. 973 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:30,494 HAVE HAD AN ENEMY. >> THEY WERE HAVING AN ARGUMENT 974 00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:32,129 >> THEY WERE HAVING AN ARGUMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR OVER WORK 975 00:25:32,131 --> 00:25:33,697 WITH THE CONTRACTOR OVER WORK THAT HAD NOT BEEN DONE RIGHT, 976 00:25:33,699 --> 00:25:36,100 THAT HAD NOT BEEN DONE RIGHT, ACCORDING TO RICK. 977 00:25:36,102 --> 00:25:36,834 ACCORDING TO RICK. AND THEY WERE WORRIED THAT THE 978 00:25:36,836 --> 00:25:39,537 AND THEY WERE WORRIED THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BREAK INTO THE 979 00:25:39,539 --> 00:25:41,639 CONTRACTOR WOULD BREAK INTO THE HOUSE. 980 00:25:41,641 --> 00:25:43,207 HOUSE. >> Reporter: HIS NAME WAS 981 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:43,741 >> Reporter: HIS NAME WAS KEN SWEENEY. 982 00:25:43,743 --> 00:25:44,808 KEN SWEENEY. KIM HAD GOTTEN A TEXT MESSAGE 983 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:46,176 KIM HAD GOTTEN A TEXT MESSAGE FROM CONNIE VENTING ABOUT HIM. 984 00:25:46,178 --> 00:25:47,411 FROM CONNIE VENTING ABOUT HIM. >> JUST THAT HE WASN'T FINISHING 985 00:25:47,413 --> 00:25:51,148 >> JUST THAT HE WASN'T FINISHING THE WORK 986 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:56,954 THE WORK AND I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING TO 987 00:25:56,956 --> 00:25:58,522 AND I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING TO SUE HIM. 988 00:25:58,524 --> 00:26:00,658 SUE HIM. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF 989 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,827 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM AND 990 00:26:03,829 --> 00:26:04,895 DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM AND ARGUMENTS WITH HIM 991 00:26:04,897 --> 00:26:06,964 ARGUMENTS WITH HIM AND I JUST SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER 992 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:09,133 AND I JUST SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER IT SEEMING LIKE IT WASN'T A GOOD 993 00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:10,134 IT SEEMING LIKE IT WASN'T A GOOD SITUATION. 994 00:26:10,136 --> 00:26:11,735 SITUATION. >> Reporter: A BAD SITUATION 995 00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:14,338 >> Reporter: A BAD SITUATION THAT SEEMED TO GET WORSE IN THE 996 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:15,973 THAT SEEMED TO GET WORSE IN THE WEEKS BEFORE THE MURDER. 997 00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:17,007 WEEKS BEFORE THE MURDER. >> THEY HAD FOUND SOME TOWELS 998 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:18,609 >> THEY HAD FOUND SOME TOWELS THAT WERE IN ONE OF THE 999 00:26:18,611 --> 00:26:19,843 THAT WERE IN ONE OF THE VEHICLES' MUFFLERS 1000 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:21,245 VEHICLES' MUFFLERS AND THEY FOUND THAT SUSPICIOUS 1001 00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:23,647 AND THEY FOUND THAT SUSPICIOUS AND THOUGHT THAT THAT COULD BE 1002 00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:24,949 AND THOUGHT THAT THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONTRACTOR. 1003 00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:27,051 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONTRACTOR. >> Reporter: A WEEK LATER, IN 1004 00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:29,186 >> Reporter: A WEEK LATER, IN THE DRIVEWAY, THEIR CAR'S 1005 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,754 THE DRIVEWAY, THEIR CAR'S WINDSHIELD WAS SMASHED 1006 00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:31,855 WINDSHIELD WAS SMASHED THAT WAS WHEN CONNIE CONFIDED IN 1007 00:26:31,857 --> 00:26:32,890 THAT WAS WHEN CONNIE CONFIDED IN HER FRIENDS THAT SHE AND RICK 1008 00:26:32,892 --> 00:26:34,391 HER FRIENDS THAT SHE AND RICK WERE SO SCARED THEY WERE 1009 00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:35,893 WERE SO SCARED THEY WERE CONSIDERING BUYING A GUN 1010 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:37,127 CONSIDERING BUYING A GUN >> CONNIE WAS DEATHLY AFRAID OF 1011 00:26:37,129 --> 00:26:38,162 >> CONNIE WAS DEATHLY AFRAID OF GUNS 1012 00:26:38,164 --> 00:26:39,196 GUNS BUT THIS CONTRACTOR WAS SO OUT 1013 00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:40,831 BUT THIS CONTRACTOR WAS SO OUT OF CONTROL THAT MAYBE THEY 1014 00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:41,865 OF CONTROL THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD GET A GUN 1015 00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:43,067 SHOULD GET A GUN >> Reporter: DID THEY THINK THAT 1016 00:26:43,069 --> 00:26:43,968 >> Reporter: DID THEY THINK THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS THE ONE WHO 1017 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:45,402 THE CONTRACTOR WAS THE ONE WHO VANDALIZED THE CAR 1018 00:26:45,404 --> 00:26:46,103 VANDALIZED THE CAR >> YEP 1019 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:47,137 >> YEP THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD EVERYONE 1020 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:48,172 THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD EVERYONE >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT 1021 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:52,443 >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAD KILLED 1022 00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:53,410 THE CONTRACTOR HAD KILLED CONNIE 1023 00:26:53,412 --> 00:26:54,044 CONNIE >> WHEN THEY QUESTIONED US, THEY 1024 00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:54,979 >> WHEN THEY QUESTIONED US, THEY ASKED, "IS THERE ANYBODY THAT 1025 00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:56,647 ASKED, "IS THERE ANYBODY THAT YOU COULD THINK OF THAT HAD A 1026 00:26:56,649 --> 00:26:57,948 YOU COULD THINK OF THAT HAD A GRUDGE OR DIDN'T LIKE CONNIE AND 1027 00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,249 GRUDGE OR DIDN'T LIKE CONNIE AND RICK 1028 00:26:59,251 --> 00:27:00,317 RICK IS THERE ANYBODY?" 1029 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:01,352 IS THERE ANYBODY?" AND THEN IT HITS YOU 1030 00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:02,353 AND THEN IT HITS YOU YOU'RE LIKE, "YEAH, THERE IS 1031 00:27:02,355 --> 00:27:03,754 YOU'RE LIKE, "YEAH, THERE IS SOMEBODY 1032 00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:05,623 SOMEBODY THE CONTRACTOR." 1033 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:10,728 THE CONTRACTOR." I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE ON BIRCH 1034 00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:12,496 I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE ON BIRCH VIEW SAID, "THE CONTRACTOR." 1035 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,064 VIEW SAID, "THE CONTRACTOR." >> I ACTUALLY HAD THE TEXT 1036 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,633 >> I ACTUALLY HAD THE TEXT AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE 1037 00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:17,234 AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE DETECTIVES CAME TO INTERVIEW 1038 00:27:17,236 --> 00:27:17,868 DETECTIVES CAME TO INTERVIEW THEM, I'M LIKE, "I'M GONNA SHOW 1039 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:19,336 THEM, I'M LIKE, "I'M GONNA SHOW THEM THIS TEXT BECAUSE I THINK 1040 00:27:19,338 --> 00:27:20,938 THEM THIS TEXT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GONNA HELP 1041 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:21,538 THIS IS GONNA HELP I THINK THEY NEED TO LOOK INTO 1042 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:22,473 I THINK THEY NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS PERSON. 1043 00:27:22,475 --> 00:27:23,540 THIS PERSON. >> Reporter: YOU'RE THINKING THE 1044 00:27:23,542 --> 00:27:24,575 >> Reporter: YOU'RE THINKING THE CONTRACTOR COULD BE A SUSPECT? 1045 00:27:24,577 --> 00:27:25,709 CONTRACTOR COULD BE A SUSPECT? >> YEAH, I JUST REMEMBER THEM 1046 00:27:25,711 --> 00:27:26,677 >> YEAH, I JUST REMEMBER THEM HAVING A LOT OF TENSIONS WITH 1047 00:27:26,679 --> 00:27:28,012 HAVING A LOT OF TENSIONS WITH HIM. 1048 00:27:28,014 --> 00:27:28,846 HIM. AND I THOUGHT, LIKE, "MAYBE THIS 1049 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:29,847 AND I THOUGHT, LIKE, "MAYBE THIS IS -- MAYBE THIS IS WHO DID 1050 00:27:29,849 --> 00:27:30,881 IS -- MAYBE THIS IS WHO DID THIS." 1051 00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:31,815 THIS." >> Reporter: THE THOUGHT ALSO 1052 00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:33,017 >> Reporter: THE THOUGHT ALSO OCCURRED TO RICK 1053 00:27:33,019 --> 00:27:34,585 OCCURRED TO RICK HE MENTIONED IT WHEN TALKING TO 1054 00:27:34,587 --> 00:27:36,787 HE MENTIONED IT WHEN TALKING TO THE DETECTIVES 1055 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:38,355 THE DETECTIVES >> DO YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO 1056 00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:39,423 >> DO YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO WOULD WANT TO DO THIS? 1057 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:40,991 WOULD WANT TO DO THIS? >> WHEN OUR CARS WERE 1058 00:27:40,993 --> 00:27:42,559 >> WHEN OUR CARS WERE VANDALIZED, MY WIFE SEEMED TO 1059 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,661 VANDALIZED, MY WIFE SEEMED TO THINK IT WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT 1060 00:27:43,663 --> 00:27:45,229 THINK IT WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT WE TOOK TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT 1061 00:27:45,231 --> 00:27:46,296 WE TOOK TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT BECAUSE HE TOOK SOME OF OUR 1062 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:48,932 BECAUSE HE TOOK SOME OF OUR MONEY. 1063 00:27:48,934 --> 00:27:50,534 MONEY. WE HAVE ZERO WAY TO PROVE THAT 1064 00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:51,568 WE HAVE ZERO WAY TO PROVE THAT >> Reporter: THE STATE POLICE 1065 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:53,137 >> Reporter: THE STATE POLICE HAD A LEAD TO PURSUE 1066 00:27:53,139 --> 00:27:54,705 HAD A LEAD TO PURSUE MAYBE THIS WASN'T A HOME 1067 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:55,806 MAYBE THIS WASN'T A HOME INVASION GONE WRONG. 1068 00:27:55,808 --> 00:27:59,143 INVASION GONE WRONG. MAYBE THE DABATES HAD BEEN 1069 00:27:59,145 --> 00:27:59,510 MAYBE THE DABATES HAD BEEN TARGETED 1070 00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:00,077 TARGETED >> DETECTIVES WERE SENT OUT 1071 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,714 >> DETECTIVES WERE SENT OUT RIGHT AWAY TO FIND HIM AND TALK 1072 00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:05,816 RIGHT AWAY TO FIND HIM AND TALK TO HIM 1073 00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:08,485 TO HIM >>> COMING UP -- 1074 00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:09,520 >>> COMING UP -- AT CONNIE'S WAKE, A CURIOUS 1075 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:11,622 AT CONNIE'S WAKE, A CURIOUS ENCOUNTER TRIGGERS QUESTIONS 1076 00:28:11,624 --> 00:28:12,723 ENCOUNTER TRIGGERS QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMEONE IN THE FAMILY. 1077 00:28:12,725 --> 00:28:13,724 ABOUT SOMEONE IN THE FAMILY. >> THAT WAS THE MOST BIZARRE 1078 00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:14,858 >> THAT WAS THE MOST BIZARRE THING WE'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED 1079 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:33,510 THING WE'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN 1080 00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:35,112 IN >> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS HAD A 1081 00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:37,247 >> Reporter: INVESTIGATORS HAD A TIP TO RUN DOWN IN THE BRUTAL 1082 00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:38,849 TIP TO RUN DOWN IN THE BRUTAL MURDER OF 39-YEAR-OLD 1083 00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:39,883 MURDER OF 39-YEAR-OLD CONNIE DABATE, A THEORY ABOUT 1084 00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:41,752 CONNIE DABATE, A THEORY ABOUT THE KILLER THAT WAS ALMOST 1085 00:28:41,754 --> 00:28:43,587 THE KILLER THAT WAS ALMOST UNIVERSALLY HELD AMONG FAMILY 1086 00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:44,588 UNIVERSALLY HELD AMONG FAMILY AND FRIENDS. 1087 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:47,291 AND FRIENDS. IT WAS THE CONTRACTOR. 1088 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:48,358 IT WAS THE CONTRACTOR. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHO I THOUGHT 1089 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,359 >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHO I THOUGHT WAS AT THE HOUSE AT THE TIME IN 1090 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:51,528 WAS AT THE HOUSE AT THE TIME IN THE -- THE MORNING OF THE 1091 00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,130 THE -- THE MORNING OF THE MURDER 1092 00:28:53,132 --> 00:28:54,698 MURDER >> Reporter: HAD RICK AND CONNIE 1093 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,766 >> Reporter: HAD RICK AND CONNIE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE 1094 00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:58,068 TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR 1095 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:58,936 CONTRACTOR >> THEY SUED HIM 1096 00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:00,003 >> THEY SUED HIM I MEAN, THEY -- THEY HAD TO SUE 1097 00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:01,538 I MEAN, THEY -- THEY HAD TO SUE HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FINISH THE 1098 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:02,606 HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB. 1099 00:29:02,608 --> 00:29:05,275 JOB. SO THEY KNEW HE WASN'T HAPPY 1100 00:29:05,277 --> 00:29:06,343 SO THEY KNEW HE WASN'T HAPPY >> HE WAS VERY UGLY TO THEM. 1101 00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:07,911 >> HE WAS VERY UGLY TO THEM. AND THERE WERE ALWAYS THINGS 1102 00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,346 AND THERE WERE ALWAYS THINGS HAPPENING THERE THAT I THOUGHT, 1103 00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:10,080 HAPPENING THERE THAT I THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOD, THIS MUST HAVE BEEN 1104 00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:11,115 "OH, MY GOD, THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE CONTRACTOR." 1105 00:29:11,117 --> 00:29:12,182 THE CONTRACTOR." >> Reporter: STATE POLICE SOUGHT 1106 00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:13,717 >> Reporter: STATE POLICE SOUGHT OUT THIS CONTRACTOR, 1107 00:29:13,719 --> 00:29:14,785 OUT THIS CONTRACTOR, KEN SWEENEY, SPEAKING WITH HIM 1108 00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:16,386 KEN SWEENEY, SPEAKING WITH HIM AT HIS HOUSE 1109 00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:18,756 AT HIS HOUSE HE ADMITTED TO HAVING ISSUES 1110 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:19,523 HE ADMITTED TO HAVING ISSUES WITH THE DABATES 1111 00:29:19,525 --> 00:29:21,492 WITH THE DABATES >> THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT THEY 1112 00:29:21,494 --> 00:29:23,260 >> THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT THEY HAD AGREED -- OR HE HAD AGREED 1113 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:24,828 HAD AGREED -- OR HE HAD AGREED TO DO WORK IN THE BATHROOM OF 1114 00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:27,331 TO DO WORK IN THE BATHROOM OF THE RESIDENCE AND THAT, AS THE 1115 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:27,998 THE RESIDENCE AND THAT, AS THE JOB WENT ON, SOME OF THE 1116 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,066 JOB WENT ON, SOME OF THE SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT THEY WANTED 1117 00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:30,100 SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT THEY WANTED DONE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ALIGNED 1118 00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:31,468 DONE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ALIGNED WITH THE PRICE, AND HE BACKED 1119 00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:32,770 WITH THE PRICE, AND HE BACKED OUT. 1120 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:34,938 OUT. AND THEN THERE WAS A CIVIL SUIT. 1121 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:35,472 AND THEN THERE WAS A CIVIL SUIT. >> Reporter: THE CASE WAS 1122 00:29:35,474 --> 00:29:36,473 >> Reporter: THE CASE WAS SETTLED FOR A FEW THOUSAND 1123 00:29:36,475 --> 00:29:38,242 SETTLED FOR A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT 1124 00:29:38,244 --> 00:29:39,109 DOLLARS IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT BEFORE CONNIE WAS KILLED 1125 00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:41,745 BEFORE CONNIE WAS KILLED DID THIS CONTRACTOR HAVE A 1126 00:29:41,747 --> 00:29:42,813 DID THIS CONTRACTOR HAVE A RECORD, ANY VIOLENCE IN HIS 1127 00:29:42,815 --> 00:29:43,847 RECORD, ANY VIOLENCE IN HIS PAST 1128 00:29:43,849 --> 00:29:44,882 PAST >> NOTHING THAT WOULD GO TO THIS 1129 00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:46,483 >> NOTHING THAT WOULD GO TO THIS LEVEL. 1130 00:29:46,485 --> 00:29:48,452 LEVEL. >> YEAH. 1131 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:49,153 >> YEAH. NOTHING AS VIOLENT AS THIS 1132 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:50,220 NOTHING AS VIOLENT AS THIS >> Reporter: KEN SWEENEY DENIED 1133 00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:51,221 >> Reporter: KEN SWEENEY DENIED BREAKING INTO THE DABATE HOME 1134 00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,924 BREAKING INTO THE DABATE HOME AND KILLING CONNIE AND SAID HE 1135 00:29:53,926 --> 00:29:54,424 AND KILLING CONNIE AND SAID HE HAD AN ALIBI 1136 00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:56,026 HAD AN ALIBI HE WAS WORKING AT ANOTHER JOB 1137 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,094 HE WAS WORKING AT ANOTHER JOB SITE THAT MORNING. 1138 00:29:57,096 --> 00:29:58,662 SITE THAT MORNING. AS DETECTIVES INTERVIEWED HIM, 1139 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,764 AS DETECTIVES INTERVIEWED HIM, THEY NOTICED SOMETHING STRAIGHT 1140 00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:01,298 THEY NOTICED SOMETHING STRAIGHT AWAY 1141 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,433 AWAY HE WASN'T AN OVERLY LARGE MAN, 1142 00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:04,468 HE WASN'T AN OVERLY LARGE MAN, AS RICK DESCRIBED. 1143 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,069 AS RICK DESCRIBED. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT 1144 00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:07,204 AND THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT DIDN'T MATCH 1145 00:30:07,206 --> 00:30:08,739 DIDN'T MATCH HIS VOICE. 1146 00:30:08,741 --> 00:30:09,773 HIS VOICE. DID HE SOUND LIKE VIN DIESEL 1147 00:30:09,775 --> 00:30:10,841 DID HE SOUND LIKE VIN DIESEL >> NO. 1148 00:30:10,843 --> 00:30:12,543 >> NO. >> Reporter: SO HE DIDN'T FIT 1149 00:30:12,545 --> 00:30:14,011 >> Reporter: SO HE DIDN'T FIT RICK'S DESCRIPTION AT ALL. 1150 00:30:14,013 --> 00:30:15,045 RICK'S DESCRIPTION AT ALL. POLICE ASKED IF THEY COULD 1151 00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:16,246 POLICE ASKED IF THEY COULD PHOTOGRAPH HIS FACE, HANDS, AND 1152 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,714 PHOTOGRAPH HIS FACE, HANDS, AND BODY FOR SIGNS HE HAD BEEN IN AN 1153 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:20,918 BODY FOR SIGNS HE HAD BEEN IN AN ALTERCATION. 1154 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,452 ALTERCATION. THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 1155 00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:24,588 THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING BUT IT WAS POSSIBLE THE 1156 00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:26,156 BUT IT WAS POSSIBLE THE CONTRACTOR HAD SOMEONE ELSE 1157 00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:27,224 CONTRACTOR HAD SOMEONE ELSE BREAK INTO THE DABATE HOME 1158 00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:27,825 BREAK INTO THE DABATE HOME DETECTIVES WOULD HAVE TO CHECK 1159 00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:31,461 DETECTIVES WOULD HAVE TO CHECK OUT THAT ANGLE AND CONFIRM HIS 1160 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:32,496 OUT THAT ANGLE AND CONFIRM HIS ALIBI. 1161 00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:33,530 ALIBI. AS INVESTIGATORS WORKED ON THAT, 1162 00:30:33,532 --> 00:30:35,098 AS INVESTIGATORS WORKED ON THAT, CONNIE'S FAMILY WAS MOURNING HER 1163 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:36,200 CONNIE'S FAMILY WAS MOURNING HER DEATH AND THINKING OF ALL SHE 1164 00:30:36,202 --> 00:30:38,302 DEATH AND THINKING OF ALL SHE HAD LEFT BEHIND. 1165 00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:42,005 HAD LEFT BEHIND. YOUR HEART MUST HAVE JUST ACHED 1166 00:30:42,007 --> 00:30:43,540 YOUR HEART MUST HAVE JUST ACHED FOR YOUR NEPHEWS TO LOSE THEIR 1167 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:45,175 FOR YOUR NEPHEWS TO LOSE THEIR MOM THAT WAY AT THAT AGE WHEN 1168 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:47,511 MOM THAT WAY AT THAT AGE WHEN THEY NEED HER THE MOST 1169 00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:49,346 THEY NEED HER THE MOST >> YEAH. 1170 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:51,481 >> YEAH. IT'S DEVASTATING 1171 00:30:51,483 --> 00:30:52,482 IT'S DEVASTATING >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK ABOUT 1172 00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:55,185 >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT SHE WON'T 1173 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:56,787 ALL THOSE THINGS THAT SHE WON'T BE THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM 1174 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:57,855 BE THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM >> I DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY 1175 00:30:57,857 --> 00:30:58,889 >> I DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 1176 00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:00,490 THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MORE HOLIDAYS, NO MORE 1177 00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:01,525 NO MORE HOLIDAYS, NO MORE BIRTHDAYS. 1178 00:31:01,527 --> 00:31:02,826 BIRTHDAYS. >> WE THINK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY 1179 00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:04,161 >> WE THINK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY WE LIVE IT EVERY DAY 1180 00:31:04,163 --> 00:31:06,263 WE LIVE IT EVERY DAY >> Reporter: THEY WEREN'T ALONE 1181 00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:08,398 >> Reporter: THEY WEREN'T ALONE IN THEIR GRIEF 1182 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,534 IN THEIR GRIEF ON A BLUSTERY LATE DECEMBER DAY 1183 00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:12,102 ON A BLUSTERY LATE DECEMBER DAY OF WHAT IS NORMALLY A FESTIVE 1184 00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:12,703 OF WHAT IS NORMALLY A FESTIVE WEEK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW 1185 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:14,037 WEEK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S, HUNDREDS BRAVED THE COLD 1186 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,306 YEAR'S, HUNDREDS BRAVED THE COLD IN ELLINGTON TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO 1187 00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:17,908 IN ELLINGTON TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO CONNIE 1188 00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:19,509 CONNIE >> SO OBVIOUSLY WHENEVER A YOUNG 1189 00:31:19,511 --> 00:31:21,612 >> SO OBVIOUSLY WHENEVER A YOUNG PERSON DIES, THERE'S A LOT OF 1190 00:31:21,614 --> 00:31:23,213 PERSON DIES, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE WAKE 1191 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,315 PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE WAKE BUT MULTIPLY THAT BY 100 JUST 1192 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,850 BUT MULTIPLY THAT BY 100 JUST BECAUSE OF WHO CONNIE WAS AND 1193 00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:27,951 BECAUSE OF WHO CONNIE WAS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 1194 00:31:27,953 --> 00:31:30,053 HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, VIEWED HER AS, LIKE, A BEST 1195 00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:31,088 VIEWED HER AS, LIKE, A BEST FRIEND 1196 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:32,689 FRIEND THE LINE WAS JUST OUT THE DOOR 1197 00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:34,791 THE LINE WAS JUST OUT THE DOOR IT WAS HORRIBLE WEATHER, LINES 1198 00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:36,927 IT WAS HORRIBLE WEATHER, LINES AND LINES OF PEOPLE. 1199 00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:39,596 AND LINES OF PEOPLE. I MEAN, JUST HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. 1200 00:31:39,598 --> 00:31:40,631 I MEAN, JUST HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. AND JUST LOOKING AT HOW MANY 1201 00:31:40,633 --> 00:31:41,932 AND JUST LOOKING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THERE, IT WAS SURREAL. 1202 00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:42,766 PEOPLE IN THERE, IT WAS SURREAL. >> Reporter: SHOWS HOW MUCH 1203 00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:43,834 >> Reporter: SHOWS HOW MUCH CONNIE WAS LOVED 1204 00:31:43,836 --> 00:31:45,435 CONNIE WAS LOVED >> RIGHT 1205 00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:49,640 >> RIGHT SHE WAS VERY MUCH LOVED. 1206 00:31:49,642 --> 00:31:51,174 SHE WAS VERY MUCH LOVED. >> Reporter: AND NOW VERY MUCH 1207 00:31:51,176 --> 00:31:52,276 >> Reporter: AND NOW VERY MUCH MISSED 1208 00:31:52,278 --> 00:31:53,710 MISSED CONNIE'S FELLOW MUSKETEERS, 1209 00:31:53,712 --> 00:31:54,344 CONNIE'S FELLOW MUSKETEERS, PEGGY AND DARLENE, WERE EAGER TO 1210 00:31:54,346 --> 00:31:55,979 PEGGY AND DARLENE, WERE EAGER TO OFFER THEIR CONDOLENCES TO THEIR 1211 00:31:55,981 --> 00:31:57,547 OFFER THEIR CONDOLENCES TO THEIR GOOD FRIEND'S HUSBAND, RICK. 1212 00:31:57,549 --> 00:31:59,683 GOOD FRIEND'S HUSBAND, RICK. BUT AS THE WOMEN APPROACHED, HE 1213 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:02,686 BUT AS THE WOMEN APPROACHED, HE SEEMED CONFUSED. 1214 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:03,353 SEEMED CONFUSED. >> THAT WAS THE -- THE MOST 1215 00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:04,421 >> THAT WAS THE -- THE MOST BIZARRE THING WE'VE EVER BEEN 1216 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,023 BIZARRE THING WE'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN. 1217 00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:07,024 INVOLVED IN. PEGGY AND I WENT TOGETHER. 1218 00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:09,459 PEGGY AND I WENT TOGETHER. WE WAITED IN, LIKE, A THREE-HOUR 1219 00:32:09,461 --> 00:32:11,128 WE WAITED IN, LIKE, A THREE-HOUR LINE 1220 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:12,863 LINE HE GREETED US BY ASKING US WHO 1221 00:32:12,865 --> 00:32:14,398 HE GREETED US BY ASKING US WHO WE WERE AND HOW WE KNEW CONNIE 1222 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800 WE WERE AND HOW WE KNEW CONNIE >> Reporter: WHAT? 1223 00:32:16,802 --> 00:32:17,601 >> Reporter: WHAT? >> UH-HUH. 1224 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,202 >> UH-HUH. >> "HOW DO -- HOW DID YOU KNOW 1225 00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:20,804 >> "HOW DO -- HOW DID YOU KNOW MY WIFE? 1226 00:32:20,806 --> 00:32:22,372 MY WIFE? >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT 1227 00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:23,440 >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT MAYBE HE WAS JUST SO OUT OF IT 1228 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:24,508 MAYBE HE WAS JUST SO OUT OF IT FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAD 1229 00:32:24,510 --> 00:32:25,542 FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED 1230 00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:27,110 HAPPENED I DON'T -- 1231 00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:28,712 I DON'T -- >> WE -- WE THOUGHT SHE -- 1232 00:32:28,714 --> 00:32:30,280 >> WE -- WE THOUGHT SHE -- >> I THINK AT THAT MOMENT, WE 1233 00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:31,348 >> I THINK AT THAT MOMENT, WE WERE LIKE -- 1234 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:32,382 WERE LIKE -- >> "HE'S IN SHOCK. 1235 00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:33,483 >> "HE'S IN SHOCK. >> SHOCK AND - 1236 00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:34,818 >> SHOCK AND - >> BUT AT THAT TIME, WE ALSO 1237 00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:36,119 >> BUT AT THAT TIME, WE ALSO LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND WERE 1238 00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:37,120 LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND WERE LIKE, "HE DOESN'T HAVE A SCRATCH 1239 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:38,221 LIKE, "HE DOESN'T HAVE A SCRATCH ON HIM." 1240 00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:39,289 ON HIM." >> YEAH. 1241 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:40,857 >> YEAH. HE DIDN'T HAVE A SCRATCH ON HIM. 1242 00:32:40,859 --> 00:32:41,892 HE DIDN'T HAVE A SCRATCH ON HIM. >> NOT ONE BRUISE ON THE FACE. 1243 00:32:41,894 --> 00:32:43,093 >> NOT ONE BRUISE ON THE FACE. NOT ONE ANYTHING 1244 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:43,994 NOT ONE ANYTHING >> Reporter: THE NEXT DAY, 1245 00:32:43,996 --> 00:32:45,062 >> Reporter: THE NEXT DAY, CONNIE'S FAMILY AND CLOSEST 1246 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:47,030 CONNIE'S FAMILY AND CLOSEST FRIENDS GATHERED AGAIN FOR HER 1247 00:32:47,032 --> 00:32:48,165 FRIENDS GATHERED AGAIN FOR HER FUNERAL. 1248 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:49,232 FUNERAL. A CONTINUATION OF MOURNING FOR 1249 00:32:49,234 --> 00:32:50,867 A CONTINUATION OF MOURNING FOR MOST 1250 00:32:50,869 --> 00:32:51,902 MOST BUT ACCORDING TO CONNIE'S FRIEND 1251 00:32:51,904 --> 00:32:55,105 BUT ACCORDING TO CONNIE'S FRIEND KIM, IT WAS ALSO A CONTINUATION 1252 00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:56,707 KIM, IT WAS ALSO A CONTINUATION OF STRANGE BEHAVIOR BY RICK. 1253 00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,275 OF STRANGE BEHAVIOR BY RICK. >> WHEN WE WENT TO THE CEMETERY, 1254 00:32:58,277 --> 00:32:59,843 >> WHEN WE WENT TO THE CEMETERY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE GOT OUT 1255 00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:00,911 I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE GOT OUT OF THE CAR 1256 00:33:00,913 --> 00:33:02,446 OF THE CAR I MEAN, HE MUST'VE GOTTEN OUT OF 1257 00:33:02,448 --> 00:33:04,648 I MEAN, HE MUST'VE GOTTEN OUT OF THE CAR. 1258 00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:06,216 THE CAR. BUT I REMEMBER IT WAS ME AND MY 1259 00:33:06,218 --> 00:33:07,484 BUT I REMEMBER IT WAS ME AND MY FRIENDS WERE THE LAST PEOPLE AT 1260 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:08,919 FRIENDS WERE THE LAST PEOPLE AT HER GRAVE. 1261 00:33:08,921 --> 00:33:09,920 HER GRAVE. AND HE LEFT. 1262 00:33:09,922 --> 00:33:10,988 AND HE LEFT. AND I'M THINKING, "THAT'S ODD. 1263 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,056 AND I'M THINKING, "THAT'S ODD. LIKE, "WHY ISN'T HE STILL HERE 1264 00:33:13,058 --> 00:33:14,958 LIKE, "WHY ISN'T HE STILL HERE WHY DOESN'T HE FEEL THE SAME WAY 1265 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,259 WHY DOESN'T HE FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT I FEEL RIGHT NOW, THAT I 1266 00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:18,528 THAT I FEEL RIGHT NOW, THAT I JUST CAN'T LEAVE THIS GRAVE? 1267 00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:20,497 JUST CAN'T LEAVE THIS GRAVE? AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS WEIRD 1268 00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:21,565 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS WEIRD >> Reporter: CONNIE'S 1269 00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:25,769 >> Reporter: CONNIE'S SISTER-IN-LAW DONNA NOTICED RICK 1270 00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:26,803 SISTER-IN-LAW DONNA NOTICED RICK ALSO CUT SHORT HIS STAY AT THE 1271 00:33:26,805 --> 00:33:27,871 ALSO CUT SHORT HIS STAY AT THE RECEPTION AFTER THE BURIAL 1272 00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:29,473 RECEPTION AFTER THE BURIAL >> IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 1273 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:31,074 >> IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LUNCHEON, HE JUST DISAPPEARED 1274 00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:32,642 LUNCHEON, HE JUST DISAPPEARED WITH HIS MALE FAMILY MEMBERS 1275 00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:33,710 WITH HIS MALE FAMILY MEMBERS HE DIDN'T STAY TO THE END. 1276 00:33:33,712 --> 00:33:34,778 HE DIDN'T STAY TO THE END. HE WAS MAYBE THERE FOR AN HOUR 1277 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,246 HE WAS MAYBE THERE FOR AN HOUR OR SO, AND THEN JUST EVERYBODY 1278 00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:37,914 OR SO, AND THEN JUST EVERYBODY GOT UP AND LEFT. 1279 00:33:37,916 --> 00:33:40,751 GOT UP AND LEFT. SO THAT WAS VERY ODD TO ME 1280 00:33:40,753 --> 00:33:42,152 SO THAT WAS VERY ODD TO ME LIKE, "WHERE DID THEY GO 1281 00:33:42,154 --> 00:33:43,220 LIKE, "WHERE DID THEY GO WHERE ARE THEY HEADING OFF TO? 1282 00:33:43,222 --> 00:33:44,254 WHERE ARE THEY HEADING OFF TO? THAT WAS VERY, VERY -- THAT WAS 1283 00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:46,256 THAT WAS VERY, VERY -- THAT WAS A MOMENT FOR ME WHERE I SAT 1284 00:33:46,258 --> 00:33:47,457 A MOMENT FOR ME WHERE I SAT THERE AND SAID, "THIS IS -- THIS 1285 00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:48,859 THERE AND SAID, "THIS IS -- THIS IS STRANGE." 1286 00:33:48,861 --> 00:33:49,593 IS STRANGE." >> Reporter: THERE IS NO SCRIPT 1287 00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:51,128 >> Reporter: THERE IS NO SCRIPT FOR GRIEF. 1288 00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,263 FOR GRIEF. NO ONE-WAY ROAD MAP FOR MOURNING 1289 00:33:53,265 --> 00:33:54,297 NO ONE-WAY ROAD MAP FOR MOURNING THE DEAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S 1290 00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:55,699 THE DEAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S YOUR WIFE, THE MOTHER OF YOUR 1291 00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:56,400 YOUR WIFE, THE MOTHER OF YOUR CHILDREN 1292 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:57,434 CHILDREN THEN AGAIN, DOES ANYONE EVER 1293 00:33:57,436 --> 00:34:00,670 THEN AGAIN, DOES ANYONE EVER REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON 1294 00:34:00,672 --> 00:34:04,374 REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE SOMEONE ELSE'S MARRIAGE 1295 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:06,977 INSIDE SOMEONE ELSE'S MARRIAGE >>> COMING UP -- 1296 00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:08,045 >>> COMING UP -- THE DABATES IN THE DAYS BEFORE 1297 00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:09,112 THE DABATES IN THE DAYS BEFORE TRAGEDY STRUCK 1298 00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:10,113 TRAGEDY STRUCK WHY FRIENDS SAY THEIR 1299 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:11,148 WHY FRIENDS SAY THEIR RELATIONSHIP WAS ONE THEY 1300 00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:12,282 RELATIONSHIP WAS ONE THEY ENVIED 1301 00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:14,451 ENVIED >> HE DOTED OVER HER 1302 00:34:14,453 --> 00:34:15,018 >> HE DOTED OVER HER HE WOULD TELL US, "HEY, YOU 1303 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:36,006 HE WOULD TELL US, "HEY, YOU KNOW, SHE'S HAVING A BAD DAY." 1304 00:34:36,008 --> 00:34:37,074 KNOW, SHE'S HAVING A BAD DAY." ♪ 1305 00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:38,108 ♪ >> Reporter: IT WAS THE HOLIDAY 1306 00:34:38,110 --> 00:34:39,709 >> Reporter: IT WAS THE HOLIDAY SEASON 1307 00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:40,777 SEASON A TIME FOR JOY, CELEBRATION, 1308 00:34:40,779 --> 00:34:42,345 A TIME FOR JOY, CELEBRATION, FAMILY GATHERINGS. 1309 00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:43,947 FAMILY GATHERINGS. CONNIE'S FAMILY WANTED TO HANG 1310 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,049 CONNIE'S FAMILY WANTED TO HANG ONTO SOME SEMBLANCE OF THAT -- 1311 00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:48,185 ONTO SOME SEMBLANCE OF THAT -- FOR HER BOYS 1312 00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:50,287 FOR HER BOYS SO, THEY DID THEIR BEST. 1313 00:34:50,289 --> 00:34:52,422 SO, THEY DID THEIR BEST. WRAPPED THEIR GIFTS, WIPED THEIR 1314 00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,191 WRAPPED THEIR GIFTS, WIPED THEIR TEARS, PUT ON THEIR COATS. 1315 00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:54,991 TEARS, PUT ON THEIR COATS. CONNIE HADN'T EVEN BEEN DEAD TWO 1316 00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:57,194 CONNIE HADN'T EVEN BEEN DEAD TWO DAYS 1317 00:34:57,196 --> 00:34:57,761 DAYS >> WE STILL WANTED TO BRING 1318 00:34:57,763 --> 00:34:59,763 >> WE STILL WANTED TO BRING PRESENTS TO THE CHILDREN, AND HE 1319 00:34:59,765 --> 00:35:01,898 PRESENTS TO THE CHILDREN, AND HE WAS STAYING AT HIS PARENTS' 1320 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:02,966 WAS STAYING AT HIS PARENTS' HOUSE. 1321 00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:04,034 HOUSE. SO OUR FAMILY WENT TO VISIT WITH 1322 00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:04,568 SO OUR FAMILY WENT TO VISIT WITH HIS FAMILY AT HIS PARENTS' 1323 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:05,602 HIS FAMILY AT HIS PARENTS' HOUSE. 1324 00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:06,670 HOUSE. >> Reporter: AND WHAT WAS THAT 1325 00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:08,772 >> Reporter: AND WHAT WAS THAT LIKE, THAT -- WHEN YOU - 1326 00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:09,840 LIKE, THAT -- WHEN YOU - >> -- IT WAS VERY HARD 1327 00:35:09,842 --> 00:35:11,408 >> -- IT WAS VERY HARD WE WERE ALL TOGETHER, EVERYBODY 1328 00:35:11,410 --> 00:35:14,044 WE WERE ALL TOGETHER, EVERYBODY WAS VERY EMOTIONAL 1329 00:35:14,046 --> 00:35:14,644 WAS VERY EMOTIONAL >> Reporter: EVERYBODY, DONNA 1330 00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:15,645 >> Reporter: EVERYBODY, DONNA NOTICED, BUT RICK -- 1331 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:18,782 NOTICED, BUT RICK -- AND IT WAS A VERY STRANGE 1332 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:20,417 AND IT WAS A VERY STRANGE EVENING. 1333 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:26,223 EVENING. HIS DEMEANOR OF -- OF NOT BEING 1334 00:35:26,225 --> 00:35:27,290 HIS DEMEANOR OF -- OF NOT BEING ABLE TO LOOK ME IN THE EYE 1335 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:28,325 ABLE TO LOOK ME IN THE EYE WAS -- WAS VERY TELLING TO ME 1336 00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:31,995 WAS -- WAS VERY TELLING TO ME THAT NIGHT 1337 00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:33,096 THAT NIGHT TALKING, TELLING JOKES, TELLING 1338 00:35:33,098 --> 00:35:34,164 TALKING, TELLING JOKES, TELLING STORIES, WE WERE ALL VERY 1339 00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:35,966 STORIES, WE WERE ALL VERY DEVASTATED, AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT 1340 00:35:35,968 --> 00:35:36,800 DEVASTATED, AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OR WRONG, I -- I DIDN'T SENSE A 1341 00:35:36,802 --> 00:35:38,401 OR WRONG, I -- I DIDN'T SENSE A LOT OF SADNESS OR EMOTION FROM 1342 00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:42,038 LOT OF SADNESS OR EMOTION FROM HIM. 1343 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,607 HIM. >> I WOULD SAY THAT THE PAIN AND 1344 00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:44,674 >> I WOULD SAY THAT THE PAIN AND GRIEF THAT WAS ON OUR FAMILY'S 1345 00:35:44,676 --> 00:35:47,344 GRIEF THAT WAS ON OUR FAMILY'S FACES ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY WAS 1346 00:35:47,346 --> 00:35:48,912 FACES ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY WAS DIFFERENT THAN HIS DEMEANOR. 1347 00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,480 DIFFERENT THAN HIS DEMEANOR. HIS DEMEANOR WAS, LIKE, YOU 1348 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:52,115 HIS DEMEANOR WAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A -- LIKE IT'S 1349 00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:53,683 KNOW, IT'S LIKE A -- LIKE IT'S A -- JUST A PARTY. 1350 00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:54,751 A -- JUST A PARTY. >> Reporter: PEGGY AND DARLENE 1351 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:56,319 >> Reporter: PEGGY AND DARLENE FELT IT, TOO -- THAT SOMETHING 1352 00:35:56,321 --> 00:36:02,659 FELT IT, TOO -- THAT SOMETHING WAS JUST OFF WITH RICK IN THE 1353 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:03,727 WAS JUST OFF WITH RICK IN THE DAYS AFTER CONNIE'S DEATH. 1354 00:36:03,729 --> 00:36:05,996 DAYS AFTER CONNIE'S DEATH. >> HE WOULD TEXT US AND SAY, 1355 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:07,430 >> HE WOULD TEXT US AND SAY, LIKE, "HEY, GOOD NEIGHBORS 1356 00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:08,498 LIKE, "HEY, GOOD NEIGHBORS WHERE DO YOU GUYS GET TAKEOUT? 1357 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,433 WHERE DO YOU GUYS GET TAKEOUT? LIKE, WHERE DO WE GET TAKEOUT? 1358 00:36:10,435 --> 00:36:11,668 LIKE, WHERE DO WE GET TAKEOUT? YOU'VE LIVED HERE ALL THESE 1359 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:15,872 YOU'VE LIVED HERE ALL THESE YEARS. 1360 00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:16,406 YEARS. AND -- WHO'S WORRIED ABOUT 1361 00:36:16,408 --> 00:36:16,873 AND -- WHO'S WORRIED ABOUT TAKEOUT? 1362 00:36:16,875 --> 00:36:18,074 TAKEOUT? WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS 1363 00:36:18,076 --> 00:36:19,276 WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS HORRIBLE TIME. 1364 00:36:19,278 --> 00:36:20,310 HORRIBLE TIME. >> Reporter: AND WHY WAS RICK SO 1365 00:36:20,312 --> 00:36:21,244 >> Reporter: AND WHY WAS RICK SO WILLING TO ENGAGE OVER TEXT BUT 1366 00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:23,346 WILLING TO ENGAGE OVER TEXT BUT NOT IN PERSON? 1367 00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:25,415 NOT IN PERSON? PEGGY REMEMBERS HIM PLAYING THE 1368 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:26,516 PEGGY REMEMBERS HIM PLAYING THE ARTFUL DODGER AT A HARDWARE 1369 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,618 ARTFUL DODGER AT A HARDWARE STORE. 1370 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:29,219 STORE. >> I WAS AT THE REGISTER AND I 1371 00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,254 >> I WAS AT THE REGISTER AND I HAD TO JUST SIGN THE FORM -- TO 1372 00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:32,322 HAD TO JUST SIGN THE FORM -- TO GET A REFUND 1373 00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:33,924 GET A REFUND AND THEN I SAW HIM, I WAVED, I 1374 00:36:33,926 --> 00:36:34,958 AND THEN I SAW HIM, I WAVED, I S -- YOU KNOW, LOOKED DOWN 1375 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,560 S -- YOU KNOW, LOOKED DOWN I SIGNED, I LOOKED BACK UP, AND 1376 00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:37,627 I SIGNED, I LOOKED BACK UP, AND HE WAS GONE. 1377 00:36:37,629 --> 00:36:38,662 HE WAS GONE. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED HER AND I 1378 00:36:38,664 --> 00:36:39,996 I IMMEDIATELY CALLED HER AND I WAS LIKE, "I'M LOOKING FOR HIM 1379 00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:41,298 WAS LIKE, "I'M LOOKING FOR HIM WHERE IS HE? 1380 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:42,899 WHERE IS HE? HE'S TRYING TO AVOID ME AND I 1381 00:36:42,901 --> 00:36:44,467 HE'S TRYING TO AVOID ME AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY." 1382 00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:45,468 DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY." >> Reporter: THEN AGAIN, 1383 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:46,102 >> Reporter: THEN AGAIN, CONNIE'S FRIENDS DIDN'T WANT TO 1384 00:36:46,104 --> 00:36:47,103 CONNIE'S FRIENDS DIDN'T WANT TO JUDGE. 1385 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:48,905 JUDGE. OTHERS 1386 00:36:48,907 --> 00:36:49,739 OTHERS NOT SO CHARITABLE. 1387 00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:51,875 NOT SO CHARITABLE. >> QUICKLY THE -- THE TOWN 1388 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:53,510 >> QUICKLY THE -- THE TOWN GOSSIP PICKED UP 1389 00:36:53,512 --> 00:36:54,578 GOSSIP PICKED UP AND -- MOST FOLKS WERE SAYING, 1390 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:55,579 AND -- MOST FOLKS WERE SAYING, "RICK DID THIS." 1391 00:36:55,581 --> 00:36:56,613 "RICK DID THIS." >> Reporter: WHY 1392 00:36:56,615 --> 00:36:58,715 >> Reporter: WHY WHAT -- WHAT WAS LEADING THEM -- 1393 00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:00,850 WHAT -- WHAT WAS LEADING THEM -- >> HIS BEHAVIOR GOT SO STRANGE 1394 00:37:00,852 --> 00:37:02,419 >> HIS BEHAVIOR GOT SO STRANGE LIKE, HE -- YOU KNOW, HE'S OUT 1395 00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,487 LIKE, HE -- YOU KNOW, HE'S OUT AT BARS HANGING OUT DURING THE 1396 00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:07,691 AT BARS HANGING OUT DURING THE HOLIDAY, HAVING DINNER, 1397 00:37:07,693 --> 00:37:08,758 HOLIDAY, HAVING DINNER, DRINKING, AND LOOKING -- 1398 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,360 DRINKING, AND LOOKING -- HAVING PEOPLE OVER AT HIS 1399 00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:11,428 HAVING PEOPLE OVER AT HIS HOUSE -- 1400 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:12,495 HOUSE -- >> -- JOLLY. 1401 00:37:12,497 --> 00:37:13,530 >> -- JOLLY. HAVING A PARTY - 1402 00:37:13,532 --> 00:37:15,098 HAVING A PARTY - >> LIKE, JUST -- 1403 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,166 >> LIKE, JUST -- >> -- AT HIS HOUSE - 1404 00:37:16,168 --> 00:37:17,200 >> -- AT HIS HOUSE - >> Reporter: TOO HAPPY FOR 1405 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:18,268 >> Reporter: TOO HAPPY FOR SOMEONE WHOSE -- 1406 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:19,436 SOMEONE WHOSE -- >> TOO HAPPY FOR SOMEBODY WHO 1407 00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:20,370 >> TOO HAPPY FOR SOMEBODY WHO LOST - 1408 00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:21,471 LOST - >> Reporter: -- WIFE - 1409 00:37:21,473 --> 00:37:22,472 >> Reporter: -- WIFE - >> EVERYTHING -- 1410 00:37:22,474 --> 00:37:24,040 >> EVERYTHING -- >> Reporter: -- HAD DIED IN A 1411 00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,075 >> Reporter: -- HAD DIED IN A BRUTAL WAY 1412 00:37:25,077 --> 00:37:27,611 BRUTAL WAY >> EVERYTHING. 1413 00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:28,845 >> EVERYTHING. YEAH, RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS IT 1414 00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:29,913 YEAH, RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS IT WAS JUST ODD BEHAVIOR THAT JUST 1415 00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:31,481 WAS JUST ODD BEHAVIOR THAT JUST STARTED TO PUT QUESTION MARKS. 1416 00:37:31,483 --> 00:37:32,515 STARTED TO PUT QUESTION MARKS. >> Reporter: STILL, PEGGY AND 1417 00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:37,287 >> Reporter: STILL, PEGGY AND DARLENE RESISTED THINKING THE 1418 00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:38,555 DARLENE RESISTED THINKING THE WORST OF RICK. 1419 00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:39,422 WORST OF RICK. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE 1420 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:40,890 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT 1421 00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:42,058 >> Reporter: DID YOU THINK THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT RICK KILLED 1422 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,194 IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT RICK KILLED CONNIE 1423 00:37:44,196 --> 00:37:45,228 CONNIE >> Both: NO. 1424 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,296 >> Both: NO. >> UNH-UH. 1425 00:37:46,298 --> 00:37:47,897 >> UNH-UH. >> Reporter: WHY NOT 1426 00:37:47,899 --> 00:37:49,466 >> Reporter: WHY NOT >> HE WAS JUST LOVING. 1427 00:37:49,468 --> 00:37:51,034 >> HE WAS JUST LOVING. HE DOTED OVER HER. 1428 00:37:51,036 --> 00:37:53,236 HE DOTED OVER HER. HE ALWAYS CHECKED IN ON HER. 1429 00:37:53,238 --> 00:37:56,473 HE ALWAYS CHECKED IN ON HER. HE WOULD TELL US, "HEY, YOU 1430 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:57,040 HE WOULD TELL US, "HEY, YOU KNOW, SHE'S HAVING A BAD DAY 1431 00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:57,907 KNOW, SHE'S HAVING A BAD DAY GO OUT FOR DRINKS. 1432 00:37:57,909 --> 00:37:58,408 GO OUT FOR DRINKS. >> -- ALWAYS RUBBING HER 1433 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,509 >> -- ALWAYS RUBBING HER SHOULDERS OR - 1434 00:37:59,511 --> 00:38:00,543 SHOULDERS OR - >> "CAN I MAKE YOU A PLATE?" 1435 00:38:00,545 --> 00:38:01,845 >> "CAN I MAKE YOU A PLATE?" LIKE, IF THERE WAS A PARTY, "CAN 1436 00:38:01,847 --> 00:38:02,679 LIKE, IF THERE WAS A PARTY, "CAN I MAKE YOU A PLATE 1437 00:38:02,681 --> 00:38:03,747 I MAKE YOU A PLATE GO SIT DOWN. 1438 00:38:03,749 --> 00:38:04,781 GO SIT DOWN. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'D BE 1439 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:05,815 LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'D BE LIKE, "OKAY, CAN SOMEBODY MAKE 1440 00:38:05,817 --> 00:38:07,684 LIKE, "OKAY, CAN SOMEBODY MAKE US A PLATE?" 1441 00:38:07,686 --> 00:38:08,451 US A PLATE?" >> Reporter: YEAH, SO HE'S 1442 00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:09,486 >> Reporter: YEAH, SO HE'S PUTTING ALL THE HUSBANDS TO 1443 00:38:09,488 --> 00:38:10,520 PUTTING ALL THE HUSBANDS TO SHAME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 1444 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:11,588 SHAME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> YEAH, HE REALLY DID 1445 00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:12,589 >> YEAH, HE REALLY DID HE DID 1446 00:38:12,591 --> 00:38:13,657 HE DID >> Reporter: THE WAY 1447 00:38:13,659 --> 00:38:14,958 >> Reporter: THE WAY KIM PHILLIPS SAW IT, RICK AND 1448 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,892 KIM PHILLIPS SAW IT, RICK AND CONNIE WERE ALWAYS IN 1449 00:38:15,894 --> 00:38:17,494 CONNIE WERE ALWAYS IN LOCK-STEP -- PARTNERS ON LIFE'S 1450 00:38:17,496 --> 00:38:18,528 LOCK-STEP -- PARTNERS ON LIFE'S DANCE FLOOR. 1451 00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:19,596 DANCE FLOOR. >> WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME 1452 00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:21,064 >> WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER AS COUPLES -- WITH MY 1453 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:21,698 TOGETHER AS COUPLES -- WITH MY HUSBAND. 1454 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,732 HUSBAND. AND THE MORE AND MORE TIME WE 1455 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:23,800 AND THE MORE AND MORE TIME WE SPENT TOGETHER, THE MORE AND 1456 00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:25,368 SPENT TOGETHER, THE MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, HE GREW ON US, 1457 00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:25,969 MORE, YOU KNOW, HE GREW ON US, AND -- AND -- AND WE LOVED HIM 1458 00:38:25,971 --> 00:38:26,936 AND -- AND -- AND WE LOVED HIM AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST -- AND WE 1459 00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:27,570 AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST -- AND WE THOUGHT HE WAS, PERFECT FOR HER. 1460 00:38:27,572 --> 00:38:28,471 THOUGHT HE WAS, PERFECT FOR HER. >> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY THE 1461 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:29,739 >> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY THE NASTY RUMORS FLYING THROUGH TOWN 1462 00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:30,607 NASTY RUMORS FLYING THROUGH TOWN LANDED LIKE DAGGERS FOR RICK'S 1463 00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:31,641 LANDED LIKE DAGGERS FOR RICK'S FAMILY 1464 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:32,709 FAMILY >> TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, 1465 00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:33,743 >> TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, YOU TAKE YOUR WIFE DOWN INTO THE 1466 00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:36,446 YOU TAKE YOUR WIFE DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT AND SHOOT HER 1467 00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:38,048 BASEMENT AND SHOOT HER NO 1468 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:40,684 NO NO, RICK WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING 1469 00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:42,686 NO, RICK WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO CONNIE. 1470 00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,921 LIKE THAT TO CONNIE. HE WOULD NEVER HURT CONNIE 1471 00:38:44,923 --> 00:38:46,489 HE WOULD NEVER HURT CONNIE NO 1472 00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:48,124 NO >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE WHO 1473 00:38:48,126 --> 00:38:48,658 >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE WHO KNOWS RICK WELL WOULD EVER 1474 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:51,795 KNOWS RICK WELL WOULD EVER BELIEVE THAT HE'D BE CAPABLE OF 1475 00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:54,764 BELIEVE THAT HE'D BE CAPABLE OF MURDER 1476 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:56,032 MURDER IT'S JUST NOT HIS NATURE 1477 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,067 IT'S JUST NOT HIS NATURE >> Reporter: BUT A TOWN'S RUMORS 1478 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:59,336 >> Reporter: BUT A TOWN'S RUMORS AREN'T MUCH USE TO A MAJOR 1479 00:38:59,338 --> 00:39:01,805 AREN'T MUCH USE TO A MAJOR CRIMES SQUAD 1480 00:39:01,807 --> 00:39:03,406 CRIMES SQUAD FACTS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE. 1481 00:39:03,408 --> 00:39:04,474 FACTS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE. AND RIGHT NOW, THE FACTS WERE 1482 00:39:04,476 --> 00:39:06,042 AND RIGHT NOW, THE FACTS WERE HELPING DETECTIVES WORKING 1483 00:39:06,044 --> 00:39:07,510 HELPING DETECTIVES WORKING CONNIE DABATE'S MURDER 1484 00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,244 CONNIE DABATE'S MURDER YOU WERE SEEING RED FLAGS POP UP 1485 00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:09,179 YOU WERE SEEING RED FLAGS POP UP IN THIS INTERVIEW? 1486 00:39:09,181 --> 00:39:13,183 IN THIS INTERVIEW? >> YES 1487 00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:14,484 >> YES >> ABSOLUTELY. 1488 00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:15,018 >> ABSOLUTELY. >>> COMING UP -- 1489 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,052 >>> COMING UP -- WHAT HAD INVESTIGATORS' WHISKERS 1490 00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:17,587 WHAT HAD INVESTIGATORS' WHISKERS TWITCHING? 1491 00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:19,789 TWITCHING? >> GENERALLY, PEOPLE WILL RECALL 1492 00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:21,658 >> GENERALLY, PEOPLE WILL RECALL EVENTS DIFFERENTLY 1493 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:22,892 EVENTS DIFFERENTLY BUT WHEN THEY'RE GIVING VERY 1494 00:39:22,894 --> 00:39:23,927 BUT WHEN THEY'RE GIVING VERY SPECIFIC ANSWERS, IT CAN LEAD US 1495 00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:25,061 SPECIFIC ANSWERS, IT CAN LEAD US TO BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON MAY 1496 00:39:25,063 --> 00:39:26,229 TO BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON MAY BE TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF 1497 00:39:26,231 --> 00:39:44,748 BE TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF SOMETHING. 1498 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:46,483 SOMETHING. FRIENDS HAD STARTED TO WONDER IF 1499 00:39:46,485 --> 00:39:47,584 FRIENDS HAD STARTED TO WONDER IF RICK'S ODD BEHAVIOR IN THE DAYS 1500 00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:50,754 RICK'S ODD BEHAVIOR IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS AFTER HER MURDER MEANT 1501 00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:52,355 AND WEEKS AFTER HER MURDER MEANT HE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE 1502 00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:54,958 HE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE AND THEY WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES 1503 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,025 AND THEY WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES DETECTIVES JEFF PAYETTE AND 1504 00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:57,594 DETECTIVES JEFF PAYETTE AND BRETT LANGEVIN HAD INTERVIEWED 1505 00:39:57,596 --> 00:39:58,695 BRETT LANGEVIN HAD INTERVIEWED RICK IN THE HOSPITAL FOR NEARLY 1506 00:39:58,697 --> 00:40:00,263 RICK IN THE HOSPITAL FOR NEARLY SEVEN HOURS THE DAY OF THE 1507 00:40:00,265 --> 00:40:01,831 SEVEN HOURS THE DAY OF THE ATTACK 1508 00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:03,433 ATTACK >> RICK'S ACCOUNTS VARIED AS THE 1509 00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:04,501 >> RICK'S ACCOUNTS VARIED AS THE PROGRESSION OF THE INTERVIEW 1510 00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:05,001 PROGRESSION OF THE INTERVIEW WENT ON. 1511 00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:06,069 WENT ON. >> Reporter: DO YOU THINK THAT 1512 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:07,303 >> Reporter: DO YOU THINK THAT JUST WITH ALL -- ALL THAT HAD 1513 00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:07,904 JUST WITH ALL -- ALL THAT HAD HAPPENED THAT MORNING THAT IT 1514 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:09,205 HAPPENED THAT MORNING THAT IT WAS HARD FOR HIM TO GET IT OUT, 1515 00:40:09,207 --> 00:40:10,273 WAS HARD FOR HIM TO GET IT OUT, JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS 1516 00:40:10,275 --> 00:40:11,875 JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A TERRORIZING EVENT 1517 00:40:11,877 --> 00:40:14,477 SUCH A TERRORIZING EVENT >> THE DETAILS HE WAS PROVIDING 1518 00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:17,113 >> THE DETAILS HE WAS PROVIDING US WEREN'T DETAILS THAT SHOULD 1519 00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:18,748 US WEREN'T DETAILS THAT SHOULD HAVE HAD DIFFERENT ANSWERS 1520 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,350 HAVE HAD DIFFERENT ANSWERS WHETHER OR NOT HE SAW HIS WIFE 1521 00:40:20,352 --> 00:40:21,885 WHETHER OR NOT HE SAW HIS WIFE GET SHOT -- THAT WAS CHANGING. 1522 00:40:21,887 --> 00:40:24,554 GET SHOT -- THAT WAS CHANGING. >> Reporter: AT FIRST, HE SAID 1523 00:40:24,556 --> 00:40:26,623 >> Reporter: AT FIRST, HE SAID HE ONLY HEARD CONNIE GET SHOT. 1524 00:40:26,625 --> 00:40:27,724 HE ONLY HEARD CONNIE GET SHOT. >> I HEARD IT FIRE, I THINK, 1525 00:40:27,726 --> 00:40:30,293 >> I HEARD IT FIRE, I THINK, TWICE. 1526 00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:32,462 TWICE. ONCE FOR SURE. 1527 00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:34,030 ONCE FOR SURE. >> Reporter: BUT A MINUTE LATER, 1528 00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:36,699 >> Reporter: BUT A MINUTE LATER, HIS STORY WAS THIS 1529 00:40:36,701 --> 00:40:38,268 HIS STORY WAS THIS >> DID YOU ACTUALLY SEE HIM 1530 00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:39,335 >> DID YOU ACTUALLY SEE HIM SHOOT YOUR WIFE? 1531 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:40,403 SHOOT YOUR WIFE? >> YES 1532 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:41,805 >> YES >> Reporter: AND THEN HE WASN'T 1533 00:40:41,807 --> 00:40:42,605 >> Reporter: AND THEN HE WASN'T SURE CONNIE HAD BEEN SHOT AT 1534 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:44,073 SURE CONNIE HAD BEEN SHOT AT ALL. 1535 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:45,141 ALL. >> SO YOU'RE NOT -- YOU'RE NOT 1536 00:40:45,143 --> 00:40:46,176 >> SO YOU'RE NOT -- YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY SURE IF SHE GOT SHOT -- 1537 00:40:46,178 --> 00:40:47,744 ACTUALLY SURE IF SHE GOT SHOT -- >> I DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT POINT 1538 00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:48,812 >> I DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT POINT >> WE STARTED HAVING QUESTIONS 1539 00:40:48,814 --> 00:40:50,947 >> WE STARTED HAVING QUESTIONS AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET A 1540 00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:51,481 AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET A CONSISTENT STORY FROM HIM. 1541 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:53,483 CONSISTENT STORY FROM HIM. >> Reporter: THERE WERE OTHER 1542 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:56,319 >> Reporter: THERE WERE OTHER TIMES DURING THE INTERVIEW THAT 1543 00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:57,287 TIMES DURING THE INTERVIEW THAT THE DETECTIVES THOUGHT RICK WAS 1544 00:40:57,289 --> 00:40:59,422 THE DETECTIVES THOUGHT RICK WAS OVERLY DESCRIPTIVE, SOMETHING 1545 00:40:59,424 --> 00:41:01,591 OVERLY DESCRIPTIVE, SOMETHING THEY ALSO FOUND SUSPICIOUS 1546 00:41:01,593 --> 00:41:02,225 THEY ALSO FOUND SUSPICIOUS >> GENERALLY, PEOPLE WILL RECALL 1547 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:03,126 >> GENERALLY, PEOPLE WILL RECALL EVENTS DIFFERENTLY 1548 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:06,229 EVENTS DIFFERENTLY BUT WHEN THEY'RE GIVING VERY 1549 00:41:06,231 --> 00:41:06,863 BUT WHEN THEY'RE GIVING VERY SPECIFIC ANSWERS, IT CAN LEAD US 1550 00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:07,864 SPECIFIC ANSWERS, IT CAN LEAD US TO BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON MAY 1551 00:41:07,866 --> 00:41:09,432 TO BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON MAY BE TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF 1552 00:41:09,434 --> 00:41:10,433 BE TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF SOMETHING. 1553 00:41:10,435 --> 00:41:12,001 SOMETHING. >> Reporter: IS THERE A MOMENT 1554 00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:14,170 >> Reporter: IS THERE A MOMENT IN THE INTERVIEW WHERE YOU TWO 1555 00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:15,238 IN THE INTERVIEW WHERE YOU TWO LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND IT'S 1556 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,340 LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND IT'S LIKE, "WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH 1557 00:41:17,342 --> 00:41:18,942 LIKE, "WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH HERE?" 1558 00:41:18,944 --> 00:41:21,044 HERE?" BECAUSE HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE 1559 00:41:21,046 --> 00:41:22,278 BECAUSE HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE VICTIM 1560 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,179 VICTIM ARE YOU STARTING TO GET A PIT IN 1561 00:41:23,181 --> 00:41:24,781 ARE YOU STARTING TO GET A PIT IN YOUR STOMACH A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, 1562 00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:25,281 YOUR STOMACH A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, "HMM"? 1563 00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:26,316 "HMM"? >> ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS 1564 00:41:26,318 --> 00:41:28,985 >> ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS THE TIMELINE HE WAS PROVIDING 1565 00:41:28,987 --> 00:41:30,220 THE TIMELINE HE WAS PROVIDING US 1566 00:41:30,222 --> 00:41:31,054 US HE'S SAYING HE GETS HOME AT 1567 00:41:31,056 --> 00:41:32,121 HE'S SAYING HE GETS HOME AT 9:00 1568 00:41:32,123 --> 00:41:33,223 9:00 HIS WIFE GETS HOME, SAY, FIVE 1569 00:41:33,225 --> 00:41:34,757 HIS WIFE GETS HOME, SAY, FIVE MINUTES AFTER HIM. 1570 00:41:34,759 --> 00:41:37,894 MINUTES AFTER HIM. AND THEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS. 1571 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:38,962 AND THEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS. THE CHASE DOWN THE STAIRS. 1572 00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,029 THE CHASE DOWN THE STAIRS. HIS -- HE WITNESSES HIS WIFE'S 1573 00:41:40,031 --> 00:41:41,664 HIS -- HE WITNESSES HIS WIFE'S MURDER 1574 00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:44,300 MURDER BUT THE 911 CALL IS 10:19. 1575 00:41:44,302 --> 00:41:45,368 BUT THE 911 CALL IS 10:19. SO WE'RE MISSING OVER AN HOUR. 1576 00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:46,436 SO WE'RE MISSING OVER AN HOUR. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST RED 1577 00:41:46,438 --> 00:41:48,004 THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST RED FLAGS. 1578 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:49,606 FLAGS. >> Reporter: RED FLAGS, BUT NOT 1579 00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:51,174 >> Reporter: RED FLAGS, BUT NOT EVIDENCE THAT RICK KILLED 1580 00:41:51,176 --> 00:41:52,775 EVIDENCE THAT RICK KILLED CONNIE 1581 00:41:52,777 --> 00:41:53,810 CONNIE AND RICK'S MOM SAID ANYONE WHO 1582 00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,411 AND RICK'S MOM SAID ANYONE WHO HAD ENDURED WHAT HER SON HAD 1583 00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:58,014 HAD ENDURED WHAT HER SON HAD COULD BE FORGIVEN FOR A HAZY 1584 00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:02,252 COULD BE FORGIVEN FOR A HAZY MEMORY OR A CHANGING STORY 1585 00:42:02,254 --> 00:42:04,387 MEMORY OR A CHANGING STORY >> WELL, HE HAD SIX HOURS AT 1586 00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:05,421 >> WELL, HE HAD SIX HOURS AT THAT HOSPITAL TO, UM, BE 1587 00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:08,625 THAT HOSPITAL TO, UM, BE INTERROGATED AND TO THINK ABOUT 1588 00:42:08,627 --> 00:42:10,159 INTERROGATED AND TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO CONNIE. 1589 00:42:10,161 --> 00:42:11,194 WHAT HAPPENED TO CONNIE. AND HE'S -- LIKE, HE CAN'T EVEN 1590 00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:12,328 AND HE'S -- LIKE, HE CAN'T EVEN THINK, YOU KNOW, "MY WIFE IS 1591 00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:16,399 THINK, YOU KNOW, "MY WIFE IS DEAD AND SOMEONE BROKE INTO OUR 1592 00:42:16,401 --> 00:42:17,100 DEAD AND SOMEONE BROKE INTO OUR HOUSE. 1593 00:42:17,102 --> 00:42:18,134 HOUSE. AND -- AND IT'S JUST A LIFE THAT 1594 00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:19,802 AND -- AND IT'S JUST A LIFE THAT TOTALLY TURNED UPSIDE DOWN 1595 00:42:19,804 --> 00:42:20,737 TOTALLY TURNED UPSIDE DOWN I THINK HE WAS IN SHOCK. 1596 00:42:20,739 --> 00:42:21,771 I THINK HE WAS IN SHOCK. >> Reporter: IN SHOCK AND WELL 1597 00:42:21,773 --> 00:42:23,439 >> Reporter: IN SHOCK AND WELL AWARE THAT THE POLICE WERE 1598 00:42:23,441 --> 00:42:25,508 AWARE THAT THE POLICE WERE SUSPICIOUS OF HIM. 1599 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:27,110 SUSPICIOUS OF HIM. HE TOLD HIS FATHER BEFORE THEY'D 1600 00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:28,478 HE TOLD HIS FATHER BEFORE THEY'D EVEN LEFT THE HOSPITAL THAT DAY. 1601 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,078 EVEN LEFT THE HOSPITAL THAT DAY. >> HE SAYS, "DAD, THEY THINK I 1602 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,314 >> HE SAYS, "DAD, THEY THINK I DID IT." 1603 00:42:31,316 --> 00:42:33,316 DID IT." >> Reporter: OH, WOW 1604 00:42:33,318 --> 00:42:35,018 >> Reporter: OH, WOW >> THIS IS THE DAY IT HAPPENED 1605 00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,586 >> THIS IS THE DAY IT HAPPENED I SAYS, "THEY'RE THINKIN' YOU 1606 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:38,187 I SAYS, "THEY'RE THINKIN' YOU DID SOMETHIN'. 1607 00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:39,222 DID SOMETHIN'. SO I SAYS, "YOU HAVE TO STOP 1608 00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:40,823 SO I SAYS, "YOU HAVE TO STOP TALKIN' TO 'EM RIGHT NOW." 1609 00:42:40,825 --> 00:42:41,858 TALKIN' TO 'EM RIGHT NOW." >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY 1610 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:42,892 >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY BELIEVES TUNNEL VISION HAD 1611 00:42:42,894 --> 00:42:44,227 BELIEVES TUNNEL VISION HAD ALREADY SET IN 1612 00:42:44,229 --> 00:42:45,495 ALREADY SET IN >> IT'S LIKE THEY JUST ONLY HAD 1613 00:42:45,497 --> 00:42:46,963 >> IT'S LIKE THEY JUST ONLY HAD ONE PERSON IN MIND 1614 00:42:46,965 --> 00:42:47,597 ONE PERSON IN MIND THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING TO LOOK 1615 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,232 THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING TO LOOK FOR ANYBODY ELSE 1616 00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:50,833 FOR ANYBODY ELSE >> Reporter: RICK HIRED A 1617 00:42:50,835 --> 00:42:52,001 >> Reporter: RICK HIRED A PROMINENT DEFENSE ATTORNEY 1618 00:42:52,003 --> 00:42:54,270 PROMINENT DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND THEY WAITED, ANTICIPATING 1619 00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:55,071 AND THEY WAITED, ANTICIPATING THE WORST. 1620 00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:56,172 THE WORST. BUT THERE WERE NO ARRESTS. 1621 00:42:56,174 --> 00:42:57,707 BUT THERE WERE NO ARRESTS. SPRING CAME. 1622 00:42:57,709 --> 00:42:59,275 SPRING CAME. THEN SUMMER. 1623 00:42:59,277 --> 00:43:00,343 THEN SUMMER. THE LEAVES BEGAN TO FALL 1624 00:43:00,345 --> 00:43:01,911 THE LEAVES BEGAN TO FALL THE HOLIDAYS APPROACHED ONCE 1625 00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:03,513 THE HOLIDAYS APPROACHED ONCE AGAIN. 1626 00:43:03,515 --> 00:43:05,048 AGAIN. >> SO AS THE WEEKS AND MONTHS GO 1627 00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:07,784 >> SO AS THE WEEKS AND MONTHS GO ON AFTER CONNIE'S MURDER, THERE 1628 00:43:07,786 --> 00:43:09,319 ON AFTER CONNIE'S MURDER, THERE WAS A LOT OF SPECULATION GOING 1629 00:43:09,321 --> 00:43:10,887 WAS A LOT OF SPECULATION GOING AROUND BECAUSE POLICE HAVE NOT 1630 00:43:10,889 --> 00:43:16,159 AROUND BECAUSE POLICE HAVE NOT NAMED A PERSON OF INTEREST, A 1631 00:43:16,161 --> 00:43:17,226 NAMED A PERSON OF INTEREST, A POTENTIAL SUSPECT. 1632 00:43:17,228 --> 00:43:18,928 POTENTIAL SUSPECT. >> Reporter: NBC CONNECTICUT 1633 00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:19,729 >> Reporter: NBC CONNECTICUT ANCHOR AND REPORTER 1634 00:43:19,731 --> 00:43:20,363 ANCHOR AND REPORTER SHANNON MILLER 1635 00:43:20,365 --> 00:43:21,564 SHANNON MILLER >> SO THERE'S THIS BIG MYSTERY 1636 00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:22,498 >> SO THERE'S THIS BIG MYSTERY IN TOWN. 1637 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,533 IN TOWN. WHO COULD BE THIS PERSON 1638 00:43:23,535 --> 00:43:24,400 WHO COULD BE THIS PERSON RESPONSIBLE? 1639 00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:25,702 RESPONSIBLE? WHO CAME IN AND DID THIS 1640 00:43:25,704 --> 00:43:27,270 WHO CAME IN AND DID THIS THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR. 1641 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:28,838 THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR. THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION AS 1642 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,174 THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION AS TO WHY THE ANSWERS ARE NOT 1643 00:43:31,176 --> 00:43:34,010 TO WHY THE ANSWERS ARE NOT COMING FAST ENOUGH 1644 00:43:34,012 --> 00:43:34,677 COMING FAST ENOUGH >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY 1645 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,348 >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY WANTED AN ARREST TOO, PARTLY TO 1646 00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:42,118 WANTED AN ARREST TOO, PARTLY TO PUT AN END TO ALL THE RUMORS 1647 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,719 PUT AN END TO ALL THE RUMORS >> WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT THERE 1648 00:43:42,721 --> 00:43:43,686 >> WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME OTHER EVIDENCE TO 1649 00:43:43,688 --> 00:43:46,823 WOULD BE SOME OTHER EVIDENCE TO SOMEONE -- TO POINT TO SOMEONE 1650 00:43:46,825 --> 00:43:49,459 SOMEONE -- TO POINT TO SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE WE KNEW IT COULDN'T 1651 00:43:49,461 --> 00:43:50,560 ELSE BECAUSE WE KNEW IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE RICK 1652 00:43:50,562 --> 00:43:51,561 POSSIBLY BE RICK SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING 1653 00:43:51,563 --> 00:43:53,162 SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE PROVING THAT IT'S 1654 00:43:53,164 --> 00:43:54,764 ELSE OUT THERE PROVING THAT IT'S NOT HIM. 1655 00:43:54,766 --> 00:43:56,866 NOT HIM. >> Reporter: BY THE FIRST 1656 00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:59,235 >> Reporter: BY THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY OF CONNIE'S MURDER, 1657 00:43:59,237 --> 00:44:00,570 ANNIVERSARY OF CONNIE'S MURDER, HER KILLER WAS STILL OUT THERE 1658 00:44:00,572 --> 00:44:02,271 HER KILLER WAS STILL OUT THERE ALL HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS COULD 1659 00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:03,172 ALL HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS COULD DO WAS GATHER TO HONOR THAT 1660 00:44:03,174 --> 00:44:05,341 DO WAS GATHER TO HONOR THAT BRIGHT LIGHT THAT HAD BEEN 1661 00:44:05,343 --> 00:44:06,376 BRIGHT LIGHT THAT HAD BEEN EXTINGUISHED FROM THEIR LIVES. 1662 00:44:06,378 --> 00:44:08,478 EXTINGUISHED FROM THEIR LIVES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING 1663 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,046 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. 1664 00:44:10,048 --> 00:44:11,114 OUT TONIGHT. IT'S AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE 1665 00:44:11,116 --> 00:44:11,981 IT'S AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM CONNIE'S FRIENDS 1666 00:44:11,983 --> 00:44:13,216 SUPPORT FROM CONNIE'S FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN THE ELLINGTON 1667 00:44:13,218 --> 00:44:16,419 AND FAMILY IN THE ELLINGTON COMMUNITY. 1668 00:44:16,421 --> 00:44:17,453 COMMUNITY. WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING 1669 00:44:17,455 --> 00:44:18,855 WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR HER, PRIMARILY 1670 00:44:18,857 --> 00:44:19,522 SPECIAL FOR HER, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT SHE WOULD 1671 00:44:19,524 --> 00:44:20,890 BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT SHE WOULD DO THAT FOR US 1672 00:44:20,892 --> 00:44:22,225 DO THAT FOR US >> Reporter: FRIENDS SPOKE ABOUT 1673 00:44:22,227 --> 00:44:26,829 >> Reporter: FRIENDS SPOKE ABOUT CONNIE AND SANG HER FAVORITE 1674 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:30,633 CONNIE AND SANG HER FAVORITE SONGS. 1675 00:44:30,635 --> 00:44:31,701 SONGS. ♪ SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW ♪ 1676 00:44:31,703 --> 00:44:32,769 ♪ SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW ♪ >> LAST TIME I SAW HER, SHE WAS 1677 00:44:32,771 --> 00:44:35,304 >> LAST TIME I SAW HER, SHE WAS SINGING "SOMEWHERE OVER THE 1678 00:44:35,306 --> 00:44:36,172 SINGING "SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW. 1679 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:36,973 RAINBOW. >> Reporter: JUST DAYS BEFORE 1680 00:44:36,975 --> 00:44:38,041 >> Reporter: JUST DAYS BEFORE CONNIE'S MURDER, DARLENE RAN 1681 00:44:38,043 --> 00:44:39,108 CONNIE'S MURDER, DARLENE RAN INTO HER AT THEIR CHILDREN'S 1682 00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:40,109 INTO HER AT THEIR CHILDREN'S SCHOOL 1683 00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,177 SCHOOL CONNIE WANTED TO GO GET A COFFEE 1684 00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:44,380 CONNIE WANTED TO GO GET A COFFEE AND CHAT 1685 00:44:44,382 --> 00:44:45,448 AND CHAT DARLENE WAS IN A RUSH. 1686 00:44:45,450 --> 00:44:48,051 DARLENE WAS IN A RUSH. >> AND SHE WAS LIKE, "I WISH YOU 1687 00:44:48,053 --> 00:44:49,152 >> AND SHE WAS LIKE, "I WISH YOU WOULD JUST GO AND GET A CUP OF 1688 00:44:49,154 --> 00:44:50,586 WOULD JUST GO AND GET A CUP OF JOE. 1689 00:44:50,588 --> 00:44:51,788 JOE. AND THEN, AS SHE WENT BY ME, SHE 1690 00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:53,156 AND THEN, AS SHE WENT BY ME, SHE STARTED TO SING "SOMEWHERE OVER 1691 00:44:53,158 --> 00:44:55,558 STARTED TO SING "SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW. 1692 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,559 THE RAINBOW. SHE JUST -- AS SHE TURNED -- 1693 00:44:56,561 --> 00:44:57,627 SHE JUST -- AS SHE TURNED -- LAST TIME I SAW HER, SHE TURNED 1694 00:44:57,629 --> 00:44:59,162 LAST TIME I SAW HER, SHE TURNED AROUND AND SHE WAS JUST LIKE -- 1695 00:44:59,164 --> 00:45:00,797 AROUND AND SHE WAS JUST LIKE -- SHE KINDA GAVE ME THIS SMILE 1696 00:45:00,799 --> 00:45:02,331 SHE KINDA GAVE ME THIS SMILE SHE USED TO ALWAYS GO LIKE - 1697 00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:03,399 SHE USED TO ALWAYS GO LIKE - AND I WAS LIKE - 1698 00:45:03,401 --> 00:45:04,434 AND I WAS LIKE - >> LIVE EVERY MOMENT 1699 00:45:04,436 --> 00:45:06,536 >> LIVE EVERY MOMENT LAUGH EVERY DAY. 1700 00:45:06,538 --> 00:45:08,171 LAUGH EVERY DAY. LOVE BEYOND WORDS. 1701 00:45:08,173 --> 00:45:08,905 LOVE BEYOND WORDS. THIS IS HOW 1702 00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:10,306 THIS IS HOW CONNIE MARGOTTA DABATE LIVED IN 1703 00:45:10,308 --> 00:45:11,874 CONNIE MARGOTTA DABATE LIVED IN HER LIFE EVERY DAY 1704 00:45:11,876 --> 00:45:16,112 HER LIFE EVERY DAY >> Reporter: HOW HARD WAS IT 1705 00:45:16,114 --> 00:45:17,313 >> Reporter: HOW HARD WAS IT HAVING THAT VIGIL WHEN YOU'RE 1706 00:45:17,315 --> 00:45:18,181 HAVING THAT VIGIL WHEN YOU'RE TRYIN' TO CELEBRATE CONNIE AND 1707 00:45:18,183 --> 00:45:19,682 TRYIN' TO CELEBRATE CONNIE AND YOU KNOW THAT HER KILLER IS 1708 00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:20,783 YOU KNOW THAT HER KILLER IS STILL OUT THERE? 1709 00:45:20,785 --> 00:45:24,020 STILL OUT THERE? >> YEAH. 1710 00:45:24,022 --> 00:45:25,488 >> YEAH. YEAH 1711 00:45:25,490 --> 00:45:26,222 YEAH WELL, I KNEW IT WAS HIM BY 1712 00:45:26,224 --> 00:45:27,123 WELL, I KNEW IT WAS HIM BY THAT -- BY THAT TIME 1713 00:45:27,125 --> 00:45:28,191 THAT -- BY THAT TIME HE JUST NEEDED TO GET ARRESTED 1714 00:45:28,193 --> 00:45:29,826 HE JUST NEEDED TO GET ARRESTED >> Reporter: HIM WAS CONNIE'S 1715 00:45:29,828 --> 00:45:31,027 >> Reporter: HIM WAS CONNIE'S HUSBAND RICK 1716 00:45:31,029 --> 00:45:31,928 HUSBAND RICK KIM AND MANY OTHERS CLOSE TO 1717 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:34,130 KIM AND MANY OTHERS CLOSE TO CONNIE, WITH ALL THEY HAD SEEN 1718 00:45:34,132 --> 00:45:34,764 CONNIE, WITH ALL THEY HAD SEEN AND HEARD IN THE YEAR SINCE HER 1719 00:45:34,766 --> 00:45:36,666 AND HEARD IN THE YEAR SINCE HER MURDER, NOW BELIEVED RICK WAS 1720 00:45:36,668 --> 00:45:37,266 MURDER, NOW BELIEVED RICK WAS HER KILLER 1721 00:45:37,268 --> 00:45:38,801 HER KILLER EVEN PEGGY AND DARLENE, WHO HAD 1722 00:45:38,803 --> 00:45:39,936 EVEN PEGGY AND DARLENE, WHO HAD SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH THE 1723 00:45:39,938 --> 00:45:41,437 SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH THE DABATES AND OBSERVED THE 1724 00:45:41,439 --> 00:45:43,005 DABATES AND OBSERVED THE MARRIAGE THAT WAS THE ENVY OF 1725 00:45:43,007 --> 00:45:44,607 MARRIAGE THAT WAS THE ENVY OF BIRCH VIEW DRIVE, COULD NO 1726 00:45:44,609 --> 00:45:45,808 BIRCH VIEW DRIVE, COULD NO LONGER IGNORE WHAT HAD BECOME SO 1727 00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:46,709 LONGER IGNORE WHAT HAD BECOME SO CLEAR TO OTHERS. 1728 00:45:46,711 --> 00:45:48,377 CLEAR TO OTHERS. >> WE WERE THE LAST TWO. 1729 00:45:48,379 --> 00:45:50,446 >> WE WERE THE LAST TWO. I ALWAYS SAY THIS TO HER -- 1730 00:45:50,448 --> 00:45:52,014 I ALWAYS SAY THIS TO HER -- "WE'RE THE LAST TWO DING DONGS 1731 00:45:52,016 --> 00:45:53,916 "WE'RE THE LAST TWO DING DONGS ON THAT TRAIN. 1732 00:45:53,918 --> 00:45:58,888 ON THAT TRAIN. 'CAUSE WE -- EVERYBODY ELSE, 1733 00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:00,456 'CAUSE WE -- EVERYBODY ELSE, LIKE, JUMPED OFF A LONG TIME 1734 00:46:00,458 --> 00:46:02,058 LIKE, JUMPED OFF A LONG TIME AGO, AND WE HUNG ON. 1735 00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:03,092 AGO, AND WE HUNG ON. AND WITH THE BEHAVIOR AND JUST 1736 00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:05,361 AND WITH THE BEHAVIOR AND JUST THE CONVERSATIONS, THE WEIRD 1737 00:46:05,363 --> 00:46:06,262 THE CONVERSATIONS, THE WEIRD TEXT MESSAGING, WE WERE KINDA 1738 00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:07,296 TEXT MESSAGING, WE WERE KINDA LIKE, "YEAH, THIS DOESN'T, LIKE, 1739 00:46:07,298 --> 00:46:08,564 LIKE, "YEAH, THIS DOESN'T, LIKE, ADD UP." 1740 00:46:08,566 --> 00:46:09,432 ADD UP." >> DOESN'T ADD UP. 1741 00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:10,500 >> DOESN'T ADD UP. >> AND WITHIN THAT YEAR, LIKE, 1742 00:46:10,502 --> 00:46:11,534 >> AND WITHIN THAT YEAR, LIKE, HE NEVER APPROACHED US TO ASK 1743 00:46:11,536 --> 00:46:12,602 HE NEVER APPROACHED US TO ASK US, "DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT 1744 00:46:12,604 --> 00:46:13,636 US, "DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT DAY? 1745 00:46:13,638 --> 00:46:14,704 DAY? WAS THERE ANYTHING ODD?" 1746 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:15,738 WAS THERE ANYTHING ODD?" >> Reporter: BUT IF THE 1747 00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:16,806 >> Reporter: BUT IF THE AUTHORITIES WERE FOCUSING ON 1748 00:46:16,808 --> 00:46:17,940 AUTHORITIES WERE FOCUSING ON RICK DABATE, THEY WERE 1749 00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,442 RICK DABATE, THEY WERE TIGHT-LIPPED ABOUT IT. 1750 00:46:19,444 --> 00:46:20,510 TIGHT-LIPPED ABOUT IT. AND STATE'S ATTORNEY 1751 00:46:20,512 --> 00:46:21,577 AND STATE'S ATTORNEY MATTHEW GEDANSKY HAD NO 1752 00:46:21,579 --> 00:46:22,678 MATTHEW GEDANSKY HAD NO INTENTION OF RUSHING THE CASE. 1753 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,147 INTENTION OF RUSHING THE CASE. >> WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA GO "A" 1754 00:46:24,149 --> 00:46:25,314 >> WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA GO "A" TO "Z. 1755 00:46:25,316 --> 00:46:26,849 TO "Z. WE'RE GONNA HIT EVERY LETTER IN 1756 00:46:26,851 --> 00:46:28,284 WE'RE GONNA HIT EVERY LETTER IN BETWEEN AND CHECK EVERY BOX, 1757 00:46:28,286 --> 00:46:28,951 BETWEEN AND CHECK EVERY BOX, CROSS EVERY "T," DOT EVERY "I. 1758 00:46:28,953 --> 00:46:30,386 CROSS EVERY "T," DOT EVERY "I. >> Reporter: AND WHAT MAY HAVE 1759 00:46:30,388 --> 00:46:31,587 >> Reporter: AND WHAT MAY HAVE LOOKED LIKE A LACK OF PROGRESS 1760 00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:33,122 LOOKED LIKE A LACK OF PROGRESS WAS ANYTHING BUT 1761 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:33,689 WAS ANYTHING BUT THE NEIGHBORS ON BIRCH VIEW 1762 00:46:33,691 --> 00:46:37,393 THE NEIGHBORS ON BIRCH VIEW DRIVE WERE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE A 1763 00:46:37,395 --> 00:46:38,961 DRIVE WERE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE A CASE OF DEJA VU. 1764 00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:40,530 CASE OF DEJA VU. >>> COMING UP -- 1765 00:46:40,532 --> 00:46:42,598 >>> COMING UP -- >> NEXT THING I KNEW, THERE WERE 1766 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,666 >> NEXT THING I KNEW, THERE WERE HUGE SUVS AND COP CARS AND 1767 00:46:43,668 --> 00:46:48,004 HUGE SUVS AND COP CARS AND SIRENS 1768 00:46:48,006 --> 00:47:04,921 SIRENS >> WHAT WAS GO 1769 00:47:04,923 --> 00:47:05,521 >> WHAT WAS GO >> Reporter: MORE THAN A YEAR 1770 00:47:05,523 --> 00:47:07,056 >> Reporter: MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER CONNIE DABATE WAS SHOT TO 1771 00:47:07,058 --> 00:47:09,659 AFTER CONNIE DABATE WAS SHOT TO DEATH, STATE POLICE STILL HADN'T 1772 00:47:09,661 --> 00:47:11,160 DEATH, STATE POLICE STILL HADN'T MADE AN ARREST 1773 00:47:11,162 --> 00:47:11,761 MADE AN ARREST BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY 1774 00:47:11,763 --> 00:47:12,762 BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY WEREN'T WORKING THE CASE 1775 00:47:12,764 --> 00:47:13,830 WEREN'T WORKING THE CASE HARD 1776 00:47:13,832 --> 00:47:14,897 HARD THEY KNEW IT WASN'T THE 1777 00:47:14,899 --> 00:47:16,499 THEY KNEW IT WASN'T THE CONTRACTOR 1778 00:47:16,501 --> 00:47:17,567 CONTRACTOR HIS ALIBI CHECKED OUT. 1779 00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:19,202 HIS ALIBI CHECKED OUT. AND THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT 1780 00:47:19,204 --> 00:47:19,836 AND THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT HE'D BEEN THE ONE TO DAMAGE THE 1781 00:47:19,838 --> 00:47:20,703 HE'D BEEN THE ONE TO DAMAGE THE DABATE'S CARS. 1782 00:47:20,705 --> 00:47:21,737 DABATE'S CARS. HE WAS CLEARED OF ANY 1783 00:47:21,739 --> 00:47:23,239 HE WAS CLEARED OF ANY INVOLVEMENT. 1784 00:47:23,241 --> 00:47:24,941 INVOLVEMENT. THEIR SUSPICION WAS FIRMLY ON 1785 00:47:24,943 --> 00:47:26,042 THEIR SUSPICION WAS FIRMLY ON CONNIE'S HUSBAND, RICK DABATE. 1786 00:47:26,044 --> 00:47:28,110 CONNIE'S HUSBAND, RICK DABATE. THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH 1787 00:47:28,112 --> 00:47:29,178 THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH HIS ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED 1788 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:30,546 HIS ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED THIS WAS BEING CALLED A HOME 1789 00:47:30,548 --> 00:47:31,280 THIS WAS BEING CALLED A HOME INVASION 1790 00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:32,849 INVASION >> YEAH. 1791 00:47:32,851 --> 00:47:33,916 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: SUSPICION AROSE IN 1792 00:47:33,918 --> 00:47:37,153 >> Reporter: SUSPICION AROSE IN THOSE CRUCIAL FIRST HOURS OF THE 1793 00:47:37,155 --> 00:47:39,222 THOSE CRUCIAL FIRST HOURS OF THE INVESTIGATION. 1794 00:47:39,224 --> 00:47:40,823 INVESTIGATION. AS NEIGHBORS HID IN THEIR HOUSES 1795 00:47:40,825 --> 00:47:43,392 AS NEIGHBORS HID IN THEIR HOUSES OR HUDDLED ON THE STREET, 1796 00:47:43,394 --> 00:47:49,232 OR HUDDLED ON THE STREET, TROOPER FIRST CLASS RYAN CLOUKEY 1797 00:47:49,234 --> 00:47:50,867 TROOPER FIRST CLASS RYAN CLOUKEY AND HIS K-9 ROCKY WERE CALLED TO 1798 00:47:50,869 --> 00:47:51,500 AND HIS K-9 ROCKY WERE CALLED TO THE SCENE TO TRY TO PICK UP THE 1799 00:47:51,502 --> 00:47:52,401 THE SCENE TO TRY TO PICK UP THE SCENT OF THAT ELUSIVE INTRUDER 1800 00:47:52,403 --> 00:47:53,970 SCENT OF THAT ELUSIVE INTRUDER A MASKED MAN WHO RICK SAID HAD 1801 00:47:53,972 --> 00:47:55,004 A MASKED MAN WHO RICK SAID HAD MOST LIKELY FLED FROM THE OPEN 1802 00:47:55,006 --> 00:47:59,775 MOST LIKELY FLED FROM THE OPEN BASEMENT DOOR. 1803 00:47:59,777 --> 00:48:00,810 BASEMENT DOOR. THEY HAD LEFT SOMETHING BEHIND 1804 00:48:00,812 --> 00:48:02,345 THEY HAD LEFT SOMETHING BEHIND >> THERE WAS A WALLET LYING ON 1805 00:48:02,347 --> 00:48:03,913 >> THERE WAS A WALLET LYING ON THE GRASS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT 1806 00:48:03,915 --> 00:48:05,514 THE GRASS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT -- OF THAT 1807 00:48:05,516 --> 00:48:05,982 OUTSIDE OF THAT -- OF THAT ENTRY -- BASEMENT DOOR 1808 00:48:05,984 --> 00:48:06,983 ENTRY -- BASEMENT DOOR >> Reporter: TROOPER CLOUKEY PUT 1809 00:48:06,985 --> 00:48:09,151 >> Reporter: TROOPER CLOUKEY PUT ROCKY TO WORK. 1810 00:48:09,153 --> 00:48:10,319 ROCKY TO WORK. >> I BROUGHT HIM UP TO THAT 1811 00:48:10,321 --> 00:48:12,421 >> I BROUGHT HIM UP TO THAT BASEMENT DOOR WHERE I STARTED 1812 00:48:12,423 --> 00:48:15,625 BASEMENT DOOR WHERE I STARTED HIM, AND HE INITIATES A TRACK -- 1813 00:48:15,627 --> 00:48:17,326 HIM, AND HE INITIATES A TRACK -- WITH HIS HEAD DOWN TRACKING -- 1814 00:48:17,328 --> 00:48:19,161 WITH HIS HEAD DOWN TRACKING -- INTO THE REAR YARD AREA WHERE HE 1815 00:48:19,163 --> 00:48:21,163 INTO THE REAR YARD AREA WHERE HE COMES UP TO THAT WALLET THAT WAS 1816 00:48:21,165 --> 00:48:23,099 COMES UP TO THAT WALLET THAT WAS LYING ON THE GROUND. 1817 00:48:23,101 --> 00:48:26,369 LYING ON THE GROUND. HE CONTINUES THAT TRACK PRETTY 1818 00:48:26,371 --> 00:48:29,672 HE CONTINUES THAT TRACK PRETTY INTENSELY AROUND THE DECK AREA 1819 00:48:29,674 --> 00:48:31,974 INTENSELY AROUND THE DECK AREA OF THE RESIDENCE ON THE GRASS 1820 00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:33,943 OF THE RESIDENCE ON THE GRASS UNTIL HE MAKES HIS WAY TO THE 1821 00:48:33,945 --> 00:48:34,610 UNTIL HE MAKES HIS WAY TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE 1822 00:48:34,612 --> 00:48:36,212 FRONT OF THE HOUSE >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO 1823 00:48:36,214 --> 00:48:37,813 >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO ROCKY'S NOSE, WHOEVER HAD LEFT 1824 00:48:37,815 --> 00:48:38,447 ROCKY'S NOSE, WHOEVER HAD LEFT THE BASEMENT DID NOT RUN TO THE 1825 00:48:38,449 --> 00:48:39,882 THE BASEMENT DID NOT RUN TO THE WOODS OR FLEE THE PROPERTY, BUT 1826 00:48:39,884 --> 00:48:41,484 WOODS OR FLEE THE PROPERTY, BUT RATHER WENT AROUND THE HOUSE AND 1827 00:48:41,486 --> 00:48:43,019 RATHER WENT AROUND THE HOUSE AND RIGHT BACK IN THE FRONT DOOR 1828 00:48:43,021 --> 00:48:48,024 RIGHT BACK IN THE FRONT DOOR WAS THAT ODD TO YOU BECAUSE YOU 1829 00:48:48,026 --> 00:48:50,226 WAS THAT ODD TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ALMOST THINK IF IT WAS AN 1830 00:48:50,228 --> 00:48:54,363 ALMOST THINK IF IT WAS AN INTRUDER WHO RAN AWAY AND WAS 1831 00:48:54,365 --> 00:48:57,700 INTRUDER WHO RAN AWAY AND WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY, THEN THEY 1832 00:48:57,702 --> 00:49:00,369 TRYING TO GET AWAY, THEN THEY WOULD'VE KEPT GOING AWAY FROM 1833 00:49:00,371 --> 00:49:02,104 WOULD'VE KEPT GOING AWAY FROM THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF BACK INTO 1834 00:49:02,106 --> 00:49:04,240 THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF BACK INTO THE HOUSE. 1835 00:49:04,242 --> 00:49:05,308 THE HOUSE. >> YEAH. 1836 00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:06,342 >> YEAH. IT'S NOTE WORTHY AT THE TIME 1837 00:49:06,344 --> 00:49:07,777 IT'S NOTE WORTHY AT THE TIME >> Reporter: WHAT MADE IT EVEN 1838 00:49:07,779 --> 00:49:08,444 >> Reporter: WHAT MADE IT EVEN MORE NOTEWORTHY WAS WHAT ROCKY 1839 00:49:08,446 --> 00:49:09,512 MORE NOTEWORTHY WAS WHAT ROCKY DID ONCE HE GOT INSIDE THE 1840 00:49:09,514 --> 00:49:11,080 DID ONCE HE GOT INSIDE THE HOUSE. 1841 00:49:11,082 --> 00:49:12,148 HOUSE. >> HE COMES IN VERY CLOSE 1842 00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:13,182 >> HE COMES IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE -- MR. DABATE 1843 00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:14,717 PROXIMITY TO WHERE -- MR. DABATE WAS IN THE HOUSE -- RECEIVING 1844 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,284 WAS IN THE HOUSE -- RECEIVING MEDICAL ATTENTION. 1845 00:49:15,286 --> 00:49:16,352 MEDICAL ATTENTION. >> Reporter: IT APPEARED THAT 1846 00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:17,420 >> Reporter: IT APPEARED THAT ROCKY HAD TRACKED RICK'S SCENT, 1847 00:49:17,422 --> 00:49:18,487 ROCKY HAD TRACKED RICK'S SCENT, WHICH INDICATED TO HIS HANDLER, 1848 00:49:18,489 --> 00:49:20,056 WHICH INDICATED TO HIS HANDLER, TROOPER CLOUKEY, THAT RICK WAS 1849 00:49:20,058 --> 00:49:21,624 TROOPER CLOUKEY, THAT RICK WAS THE ONE WHO LEFT THROUGH THE 1850 00:49:21,626 --> 00:49:22,692 THE ONE WHO LEFT THROUGH THE BASEMENT DOOR. 1851 00:49:22,694 --> 00:49:23,693 BASEMENT DOOR. COULD THAT BE RIGHT? 1852 00:49:23,695 --> 00:49:24,794 COULD THAT BE RIGHT? >> SO I WANT A PROOF OF THAT 1853 00:49:24,796 --> 00:49:26,662 >> SO I WANT A PROOF OF THAT TRAIL THAT WE JUST RAN 1854 00:49:26,664 --> 00:49:27,930 TRAIL THAT WE JUST RAN DID WE MISS SOMETHING? 1855 00:49:27,932 --> 00:49:29,031 DID WE MISS SOMETHING? MAYBE. 1856 00:49:29,033 --> 00:49:32,368 MAYBE. >> Reporter: 'CAUSE IT WAS 1857 00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:33,936 >> Reporter: 'CAUSE IT WAS ABNORMAL 1858 00:49:33,938 --> 00:49:34,904 ABNORMAL >> YEAH. 1859 00:49:34,906 --> 00:49:36,572 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: SO LET'S TRY IT 1860 00:49:36,574 --> 00:49:37,707 >> Reporter: SO LET'S TRY IT AGAIN. 1861 00:49:37,709 --> 00:49:38,774 AGAIN. ROCKY FOLLOWED THE SAME TRAIL 1862 00:49:38,776 --> 00:49:39,976 ROCKY FOLLOWED THE SAME TRAIL FROM THE BASEMENT DOOR TO THE 1863 00:49:39,978 --> 00:49:41,944 FROM THE BASEMENT DOOR TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE 1864 00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:44,380 FRONT OF THE HOUSE >> HOWEVER, THIS TIME INSTEAD OF 1865 00:49:44,382 --> 00:49:45,648 >> HOWEVER, THIS TIME INSTEAD OF GOING ONTO THE PORCH AND INTO 1866 00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:46,682 GOING ONTO THE PORCH AND INTO THE HOUSE -- ROCKY TAKES A LEFT 1867 00:49:46,684 --> 00:49:48,784 THE HOUSE -- ROCKY TAKES A LEFT TURN INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT AND 1868 00:49:48,786 --> 00:49:49,885 TURN INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT AND GOES INTO THE AMBULANCE 1869 00:49:49,887 --> 00:49:51,454 GOES INTO THE AMBULANCE ESSENTIALLY -- RIGHT TO THE 1870 00:49:51,456 --> 00:49:52,421 ESSENTIALLY -- RIGHT TO THE STRETCHER -- IN THE AMBULANCE IN 1871 00:49:52,423 --> 00:49:53,622 STRETCHER -- IN THE AMBULANCE IN THOSE TIGHT QUARTERS WHERE -- 1872 00:49:53,624 --> 00:49:54,190 THOSE TIGHT QUARTERS WHERE -- WHERE MR. DABATE WAS LAYING. 1873 00:49:54,192 --> 00:49:55,591 WHERE MR. DABATE WAS LAYING. >> Reporter: AND IT WASN'T JUST 1874 00:49:55,593 --> 00:49:56,659 >> Reporter: AND IT WASN'T JUST THE CANINE THAT HAD SNIFFED 1875 00:49:56,661 --> 00:49:58,828 THE CANINE THAT HAD SNIFFED SOMETHING OUT THAT DAY, BECAUSE 1876 00:49:58,830 --> 00:50:00,429 SOMETHING OUT THAT DAY, BECAUSE WHEN DETECTIVES PROCESSED THE 1877 00:50:00,431 --> 00:50:01,464 WHEN DETECTIVES PROCESSED THE SCENE, THEY FELT THE WHOLE THING 1878 00:50:01,466 --> 00:50:02,531 SCENE, THEY FELT THE WHOLE THING LOOKED STAGED. 1879 00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:03,566 LOOKED STAGED. WHAT DID YOU THINK IN 1880 00:50:03,568 --> 00:50:05,167 WHAT DID YOU THINK IN PARTICULAR 1881 00:50:05,169 --> 00:50:06,202 PARTICULAR WHAT WAS REALLY STICKING OUT TO 1882 00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:08,304 WHAT WAS REALLY STICKING OUT TO YOU, AS LOOKING STAGED 1883 00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:10,206 YOU, AS LOOKING STAGED >> IF THIS WAS A BURGLARY, WHERE 1884 00:50:10,208 --> 00:50:10,973 >> IF THIS WAS A BURGLARY, WHERE SOMEONE'S IN THERE TO STEAL YOUR 1885 00:50:10,975 --> 00:50:11,974 SOMEONE'S IN THERE TO STEAL YOUR STUFF, IT DIDN'T APPEAR LIKE 1886 00:50:11,976 --> 00:50:13,009 STUFF, IT DIDN'T APPEAR LIKE ANYTHING WAS REALLY DISTURBED. 1887 00:50:13,011 --> 00:50:14,110 ANYTHING WAS REALLY DISTURBED. THE DRAWERS WEREN'T PULLED OUT 1888 00:50:14,112 --> 00:50:15,177 THE DRAWERS WEREN'T PULLED OUT AND THE UPSTAIRS CLOSET WHERE 1889 00:50:15,179 --> 00:50:17,313 AND THE UPSTAIRS CLOSET WHERE THE INTRUDER REPORTEDLY WAS WITH 1890 00:50:17,315 --> 00:50:18,047 THE INTRUDER REPORTEDLY WAS WITH RICK DABATE, WHERE YOU COULD SEE 1891 00:50:18,049 --> 00:50:19,415 RICK DABATE, WHERE YOU COULD SEE ALL OF CONNIE'S JEWELRY RIGHT 1892 00:50:19,417 --> 00:50:20,449 ALL OF CONNIE'S JEWELRY RIGHT THERE, NOT DISTURBED 1893 00:50:20,451 --> 00:50:21,517 THERE, NOT DISTURBED NONE OF THE DRAWERS WERE OPENED. 1894 00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:25,287 NONE OF THE DRAWERS WERE OPENED. >> Reporter: SO, THEIR 1895 00:50:25,289 --> 00:50:30,259 >> Reporter: SO, THEIR CONCLUSION, NO MASKED INTRUDER 1896 00:50:30,261 --> 00:50:31,827 CONCLUSION, NO MASKED INTRUDER NO VIN DIESEL-SOUNDING MAD MAN 1897 00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:32,862 NO VIN DIESEL-SOUNDING MAD MAN COULD THERE HAVE REALLY BEEN AN 1898 00:50:32,864 --> 00:50:33,929 COULD THERE HAVE REALLY BEEN AN INTRUDER 1899 00:50:33,931 --> 00:50:35,164 INTRUDER >> NO. 1900 00:50:35,166 --> 00:50:36,065 >> NO. DEFINITELY NOT 1901 00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:37,099 DEFINITELY NOT HE WANTED TO COME OUT, LOOKING 1902 00:50:37,101 --> 00:50:38,167 HE WANTED TO COME OUT, LOOKING LIKE HE SURVIVED A HOME 1903 00:50:38,169 --> 00:50:41,170 LIKE HE SURVIVED A HOME INVASION, BUT HIS WIFE 1904 00:50:41,172 --> 00:50:44,173 INVASION, BUT HIS WIFE UNFORTUNATELY WAS MURDERED 1905 00:50:44,175 --> 00:50:44,874 UNFORTUNATELY WAS MURDERED BUT WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS 1906 00:50:44,876 --> 00:50:46,409 BUT WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS DOMESTIC HOMICIDE. 1907 00:50:46,411 --> 00:50:46,942 DOMESTIC HOMICIDE. >> Reporter: GOOD FRIDAY, 1908 00:50:46,944 --> 00:50:48,544 >> Reporter: GOOD FRIDAY, APRIL 14, 2017 1909 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:49,612 APRIL 14, 2017 IT HAD BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND A 1910 00:50:49,614 --> 00:50:50,646 IT HAD BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF SINCE CONNIE'S MURDER WHEN 1911 00:50:50,648 --> 00:50:51,714 HALF SINCE CONNIE'S MURDER WHEN DARLENE LOOKED OUT HER WINDOW 1912 00:50:51,716 --> 00:50:57,019 DARLENE LOOKED OUT HER WINDOW AND SAW RICK DABATE DRIVING UP 1913 00:50:57,021 --> 00:50:58,687 AND SAW RICK DABATE DRIVING UP TOWARD HIS HOUSE 1914 00:50:58,689 --> 00:50:59,321 TOWARD HIS HOUSE >> NEXT THING I KNEW, SAME THING 1915 00:50:59,323 --> 00:51:00,689 >> NEXT THING I KNEW, SAME THING AS THE DAY OF THE MURDER, THERE 1916 00:51:00,691 --> 00:51:02,291 AS THE DAY OF THE MURDER, THERE WERE HUGE SUVS, AND COP CARS, 1917 00:51:02,293 --> 00:51:05,461 WERE HUGE SUVS, AND COP CARS, AND SIRENS 1918 00:51:05,463 --> 00:51:07,797 AND SIRENS AND -- THEY FORCED HIM, YOU 1919 00:51:07,799 --> 00:51:08,864 AND -- THEY FORCED HIM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE CAR 1920 00:51:08,866 --> 00:51:10,433 KNOW, OUT OF THE CAR >> Reporter: RICK DABATE WAS LED 1921 00:51:10,435 --> 00:51:11,033 >> Reporter: RICK DABATE WAS LED AWAY IN HANDCUFFS AND CHARGED 1922 00:51:11,035 --> 00:51:12,001 AWAY IN HANDCUFFS AND CHARGED WITH THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE, 1923 00:51:12,003 --> 00:51:13,135 WITH THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE, CONNIE 1924 00:51:13,137 --> 00:51:14,103 CONNIE >> I THOUGHT, "IT'S OVER." 1925 00:51:14,105 --> 00:51:15,638 >> I THOUGHT, "IT'S OVER." >> Reporter: BUT FOR RICK'S 1926 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,705 >> Reporter: BUT FOR RICK'S PARENTS, IT WAS FAR FROM OVER. 1927 00:51:16,707 --> 00:51:17,840 PARENTS, IT WAS FAR FROM OVER. BECAUSE NOW, A NEW NIGHTMARE HAD 1928 00:51:17,842 --> 00:51:18,908 BECAUSE NOW, A NEW NIGHTMARE HAD JUST BEGUN 1929 00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:20,042 JUST BEGUN WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR SON, 1930 00:51:20,044 --> 00:51:21,010 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR SON, AFTER HE'S BEEN ARRESTED FOR 1931 00:51:21,012 --> 00:51:22,578 AFTER HE'S BEEN ARRESTED FOR MURDER 1932 00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:27,149 MURDER >> SAY, "WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS. 1933 00:51:27,151 --> 00:51:29,218 >> SAY, "WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS. WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH IT." 1934 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:29,919 WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH IT." WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO STAY 1935 00:51:29,921 --> 00:51:30,986 WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO STAY POSITIVE 1936 00:51:30,988 --> 00:51:32,755 POSITIVE >> YEAH, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT 1937 00:51:32,757 --> 00:51:33,656 >> YEAH, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT >> Reporter: THE BOYS WENT TO 1938 00:51:33,658 --> 00:51:34,690 >> Reporter: THE BOYS WENT TO LIVE WITH CONNIE'S OLDER SISTER 1939 00:51:34,692 --> 00:51:36,292 LIVE WITH CONNIE'S OLDER SISTER AFTER RICK'S ARREST. 1940 00:51:36,294 --> 00:51:37,359 AFTER RICK'S ARREST. HOW'S HE HANDLING IT 1941 00:51:37,361 --> 00:51:38,928 HOW'S HE HANDLING IT >> LOUSY 1942 00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:39,962 >> LOUSY LOST HIS JOB RIGHT AWAY. 1943 00:51:39,964 --> 00:51:42,064 LOST HIS JOB RIGHT AWAY. HE LOST HIS BOYS 1944 00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:43,666 HE LOST HIS BOYS LOST HIS WIFE. 1945 00:51:43,668 --> 00:51:44,733 LOST HIS WIFE. HE WAS ALONE 1946 00:51:44,735 --> 00:51:45,768 HE WAS ALONE HE WAS TERRIFIED 1947 00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:47,903 HE WAS TERRIFIED HE WAS SCARED ABOUT HOW THE BOYS 1948 00:51:47,905 --> 00:51:57,646 HE WAS SCARED ABOUT HOW THE BOYS ARE GONNA HANDLE THIS NEWS 1949 00:51:57,648 --> 00:51:58,447 ARE GONNA HANDLE THIS NEWS AND -- IT WAS NOT GOOD 1950 00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:00,716 AND -- IT WAS NOT GOOD >> Reporter: DID YOU BELIEVE 1951 00:52:00,718 --> 00:52:01,617 >> Reporter: DID YOU BELIEVE RICK'S STORY 1952 00:52:01,619 --> 00:52:03,219 RICK'S STORY ABOUT THE INTRUDER, THE -- YOU 1953 00:52:03,221 --> 00:52:04,820 ABOUT THE INTRUDER, THE -- YOU KNOW, BEING ZIP-TIED TO THE 1954 00:52:04,822 --> 00:52:05,788 KNOW, BEING ZIP-TIED TO THE CHAIR AND THE INTRUDER SHOOTS 1955 00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:07,423 CHAIR AND THE INTRUDER SHOOTS CONNIE 1956 00:52:07,425 --> 00:52:08,257 CONNIE >> YES 1957 00:52:08,259 --> 00:52:09,525 >> YES >> WE HAD NO REASON TO DOUBT IT. 1958 00:52:09,527 --> 00:52:11,127 >> WE HAD NO REASON TO DOUBT IT. NO REASON AT ALL 1959 00:52:11,129 --> 00:52:12,161 NO REASON AT ALL >> Reporter: THE ARREST HAD COME 1960 00:52:12,163 --> 00:52:13,195 >> Reporter: THE ARREST HAD COME AS A SHOCK TO RICK'S AUNT JANICE 1961 00:52:13,197 --> 00:52:13,762 AS A SHOCK TO RICK'S AUNT JANICE AS WELL. 1962 00:52:13,764 --> 00:52:15,831 AS WELL. >> I HONESTLY THOUGHT THEY WERE 1963 00:52:15,833 --> 00:52:17,967 >> I HONESTLY THOUGHT THEY WERE LOOKING ELSEWHERE, I REALLY 1964 00:52:17,969 --> 00:52:20,603 LOOKING ELSEWHERE, I REALLY DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE LOOKING 1965 00:52:20,605 --> 00:52:26,842 DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE LOOKING AT RICK. 1966 00:52:26,844 --> 00:52:27,476 AT RICK. >> Reporter: BUT THE AUTHORITIES 1967 00:52:27,478 --> 00:52:28,844 >> Reporter: BUT THE AUTHORITIES RICK, AND PRETTY SOON EVERYONE 1968 00:52:28,846 --> 00:52:29,612 RICK, AND PRETTY SOON EVERYONE WOULD KNOW ABOUT A SECRET THEY'D 1969 00:52:29,614 --> 00:52:30,646 WOULD KNOW ABOUT A SECRET THEY'D DISCOVERED 1970 00:52:30,648 --> 00:52:31,680 DISCOVERED >> MY JAW ALMOST DROPPED TO THE 1971 00:52:31,682 --> 00:52:33,282 >> MY JAW ALMOST DROPPED TO THE FLOOR. 1972 00:52:33,284 --> 00:52:34,850 FLOOR. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. 1973 00:52:34,852 --> 00:52:35,885 I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. >>> COMING UP -- 1974 00:52:35,887 --> 00:52:36,952 >>> COMING UP -- WHAT HAD CONNIE'S FRIENDS AND 1975 00:52:36,954 --> 00:52:38,020 WHAT HAD CONNIE'S FRIENDS AND FAMILY FLOORED 1976 00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:39,088 FAMILY FLOORED >> I JUST KEPT ON THINKING, "OH, 1977 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:40,356 >> I JUST KEPT ON THINKING, "OH, MY GOD." 1978 00:52:40,358 --> 00:52:42,057 MY GOD." >> Reporter: RICK WAS LIVING A 1979 00:52:42,059 --> 00:53:04,547 >> Reporter: RICK WAS LIVING A SECRET LIFE. 1980 00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:05,247 SECRET LIFE. WAS ARRESTED FOR KILLING HIS 1981 00:53:05,249 --> 00:53:06,849 WAS ARRESTED FOR KILLING HIS WIFE CONNIE, MANY WONDERED HOW 1982 00:53:06,851 --> 00:53:08,450 WIFE CONNIE, MANY WONDERED HOW THIS SEEMINGLY PERFECT MARRIAGE 1983 00:53:08,452 --> 00:53:09,451 THIS SEEMINGLY PERFECT MARRIAGE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ENDED IN 1984 00:53:09,453 --> 00:53:10,553 COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ENDED IN MURDER 1985 00:53:10,555 --> 00:53:11,587 MURDER DID RICK DABATE HAVE ANY HISTORY 1986 00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:12,621 DID RICK DABATE HAVE ANY HISTORY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT YOU 1987 00:53:12,623 --> 00:53:14,223 OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT YOU COULD FIND 1988 00:53:14,225 --> 00:53:15,291 COULD FIND >> NO. 1989 00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:16,859 >> NO. >> Reporter: CRIMINAL RECORD 1990 00:53:16,861 --> 00:53:17,893 >> Reporter: CRIMINAL RECORD >> NO. 1991 00:53:17,895 --> 00:53:20,062 >> NO. NO 1992 00:53:20,064 --> 00:53:21,096 NO >> Reporter: IT SEEMS ODD THAT 1993 00:53:21,098 --> 00:53:23,098 >> Reporter: IT SEEMS ODD THAT SOMEONE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GO FROM 1994 00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:23,699 SOMEONE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GO FROM HAVING A CLEAN SLATE TO KILLER 1995 00:53:23,701 --> 00:53:24,800 HAVING A CLEAN SLATE TO KILLER >> IT DOES 1996 00:53:24,802 --> 00:53:27,436 >> IT DOES AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY A HURDLE 1997 00:53:27,438 --> 00:53:28,504 AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY A HURDLE I CONSIDERED ON THIS CASE. 1998 00:53:28,506 --> 00:53:31,140 I CONSIDERED ON THIS CASE. I'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE JURY 1999 00:53:31,142 --> 00:53:31,707 I'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE JURY THAT THIS NORMAL, SUBURBAN, 2000 00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:37,479 THAT THIS NORMAL, SUBURBAN, PROFESSIONAL GUY WITH NO RECORD 2001 00:53:37,481 --> 00:53:39,048 PROFESSIONAL GUY WITH NO RECORD KILLED HIS WIFE. 2002 00:53:39,050 --> 00:53:41,150 KILLED HIS WIFE. >> Reporter: STATES ATTORNEY 2003 00:53:41,152 --> 00:53:42,218 >> Reporter: STATES ATTORNEY MATTHEW GEDANSKY FELT CONFIDENT 2004 00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:43,285 MATTHEW GEDANSKY FELT CONFIDENT HE COULD OVERCOME THAT HURDLE 2005 00:53:43,287 --> 00:53:44,286 HE COULD OVERCOME THAT HURDLE BECAUSE HE BELIEVED HE HAD FOUND 2006 00:53:44,288 --> 00:53:45,888 BECAUSE HE BELIEVED HE HAD FOUND THE MOTIVE 2007 00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:47,523 THE MOTIVE >> HE HAD A LONG-TERM AFFAIR 2008 00:53:47,525 --> 00:53:49,625 >> HE HAD A LONG-TERM AFFAIR WITH THIS OTHER WOMAN. 2009 00:53:49,627 --> 00:53:50,659 WITH THIS OTHER WOMAN. SHE BECAME PREGNANT IN MAY OF 2010 00:53:50,661 --> 00:53:52,261 SHE BECAME PREGNANT IN MAY OF 2015 2011 00:53:52,263 --> 00:53:53,796 2015 >> Reporter: AN AFFAIR 2012 00:53:53,798 --> 00:53:56,498 >> Reporter: AN AFFAIR A PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND. 2013 00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:57,933 A PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND. THE PROSECUTOR WAS CONVINCED 2014 00:53:57,935 --> 00:53:59,134 THE PROSECUTOR WAS CONVINCED RICK KILLED CONNIE TO BE WITH 2015 00:53:59,136 --> 00:54:00,169 RICK KILLED CONNIE TO BE WITH THE OTHER WOMAN. 2016 00:54:00,171 --> 00:54:03,372 THE OTHER WOMAN. INVESTIGATORS HAD KEPT THIS 2017 00:54:03,374 --> 00:54:05,407 INVESTIGATORS HAD KEPT THIS BOMBSHELL QUIET DURING THE 2018 00:54:05,409 --> 00:54:06,041 BOMBSHELL QUIET DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR NEARLY 18-MONTH 2019 00:54:06,043 --> 00:54:07,209 COURSE OF THEIR NEARLY 18-MONTH INVESTIGATION, BUT RICK HAD ONLY 2020 00:54:07,211 --> 00:54:08,611 INVESTIGATION, BUT RICK HAD ONLY KEPT IT QUIET FROM THEM FOR A 2021 00:54:08,613 --> 00:54:11,814 KEPT IT QUIET FROM THEM FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. 2022 00:54:11,816 --> 00:54:12,848 COUPLE OF HOURS. HE MUST HAVE GUESSED THEY'D FIND 2023 00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:13,949 HE MUST HAVE GUESSED THEY'D FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH, SO HE BROUGHT 2024 00:54:13,951 --> 00:54:14,984 OUT SOON ENOUGH, SO HE BROUGHT IT UP RIGHT THERE ON DAY ONE 2025 00:54:14,986 --> 00:54:16,018 IT UP RIGHT THERE ON DAY ONE FROM HIS HOSPITAL BED. 2026 00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:17,620 FROM HIS HOSPITAL BED. HE TOLD YOU THIS IN THE 2027 00:54:17,622 --> 00:54:18,654 HE TOLD YOU THIS IN THE INTERVIEW? 2028 00:54:18,656 --> 00:54:19,688 INTERVIEW? >> HE DID. 2029 00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:20,723 >> HE DID. >> Reporter: THIS IS HUGE. 2030 00:54:20,725 --> 00:54:21,290 >> Reporter: THIS IS HUGE. >> IT IS 2031 00:54:21,292 --> 00:54:22,891 >> IT IS >> Reporter: HER NAME WAS 2032 00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:23,892 >> Reporter: HER NAME WAS SARA GANZER, AND SHE AND RICK 2033 00:54:23,894 --> 00:54:24,927 SARA GANZER, AND SHE AND RICK HAD BEEN FRIENDS SINCE JUNIOR 2034 00:54:24,929 --> 00:54:25,995 HAD BEEN FRIENDS SINCE JUNIOR HIGH 2035 00:54:25,997 --> 00:54:27,663 HIGH SHE HAD EVEN DONE A READING AT 2036 00:54:27,665 --> 00:54:28,631 SHE HAD EVEN DONE A READING AT RICK AND CONNIE'S WEDDING. 2037 00:54:28,633 --> 00:54:29,198 RICK AND CONNIE'S WEDDING. AND THE WAY RICK TOLD IT TO 2038 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,333 AND THE WAY RICK TOLD IT TO DETECTIVES, IT ALL SOUNDED ABOVE 2039 00:54:31,335 --> 00:54:32,901 DETECTIVES, IT ALL SOUNDED ABOVE BOARD. 2040 00:54:32,903 --> 00:54:37,906 BOARD. SARA, HIS NEWLY-SINGLE, LONGTIME 2041 00:54:37,908 --> 00:54:39,475 SARA, HIS NEWLY-SINGLE, LONGTIME FRIEND, WANTED TO HAVE A BABY. 2042 00:54:39,477 --> 00:54:42,745 FRIEND, WANTED TO HAVE A BABY. AND HE AND CONNIE OFFERED TO 2043 00:54:42,747 --> 00:54:46,515 AND HE AND CONNIE OFFERED TO HELP 2044 00:54:46,517 --> 00:54:48,484 HELP >> WE WERE GOING TO DONATE SPERM 2045 00:54:48,486 --> 00:54:49,518 >> WE WERE GOING TO DONATE SPERM TO HER TO HAVE A KID 2046 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,120 TO HER TO HAVE A KID >> BUT IT BECAME TOO EXPENSIVE, 2047 00:54:51,122 --> 00:54:52,154 >> BUT IT BECAME TOO EXPENSIVE, SO THAT IN ORDER FOR HER TO 2048 00:54:52,156 --> 00:54:53,756 SO THAT IN ORDER FOR HER TO CONCEIVE A CHILD, THEY HAD TO DO 2049 00:54:53,758 --> 00:54:54,423 CONCEIVE A CHILD, THEY HAD TO DO SOME UNTRADITIONAL THINGS. 2050 00:54:54,425 --> 00:54:55,357 SOME UNTRADITIONAL THINGS. >> Reporter: RICK HAD TO SLEEP 2051 00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:56,925 >> Reporter: RICK HAD TO SLEEP WITH SARA. 2052 00:54:56,927 --> 00:54:58,093 WITH SARA. >> YES 2053 00:54:58,095 --> 00:54:59,028 >> YES >> Reporter: INSTEAD OF DOING IT 2054 00:54:59,030 --> 00:55:00,529 >> Reporter: INSTEAD OF DOING IT A DIFFERENT WAY -- 2055 00:55:00,531 --> 00:55:01,130 A DIFFERENT WAY -- >> YES 2056 00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:02,164 >> YES >> Reporter: -- LIKE THE THE 2057 00:55:02,166 --> 00:55:03,232 >> Reporter: -- LIKE THE THE SCIENCE ROUTE? 2058 00:55:03,234 --> 00:55:04,833 SCIENCE ROUTE? >> CORRECT 2059 00:55:04,835 --> 00:55:05,901 >> CORRECT >> YES 2060 00:55:05,903 --> 00:55:06,969 >> YES >> Reporter: OLD FASHIONED 2061 00:55:06,971 --> 00:55:08,003 >> Reporter: OLD FASHIONED >> YES 2062 00:55:08,005 --> 00:55:09,471 >> YES >> UNTRADITIONAL, BUT 2063 00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:10,105 >> UNTRADITIONAL, BUT TRADITIONAL IN THE WAY THAT THE 2064 00:55:10,107 --> 00:55:11,173 TRADITIONAL IN THE WAY THAT THE BABY WAS CONCEIVED 2065 00:55:11,175 --> 00:55:12,241 BABY WAS CONCEIVED >> YEAH. 2066 00:55:12,243 --> 00:55:13,309 >> YEAH. >> OKAY. 2067 00:55:13,311 --> 00:55:14,843 >> OKAY. YOU THINK YOUR WIFE HAD ANY 2068 00:55:14,845 --> 00:55:15,911 YOU THINK YOUR WIFE HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THAT 2069 00:55:15,913 --> 00:55:17,179 ISSUES WITH THAT >> IT WAS HER IDEA, IN A WAY 2070 00:55:17,181 --> 00:55:19,081 >> IT WAS HER IDEA, IN A WAY >> Reporter: HER IDEA? 2071 00:55:19,083 --> 00:55:20,149 >> Reporter: HER IDEA? HARD TO BELIEVE CONNIE WOULD 2072 00:55:20,151 --> 00:55:21,717 HARD TO BELIEVE CONNIE WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY WITH THE PLAN, 2073 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,285 HAVE BEEN OKAY WITH THE PLAN, LET ALONE COME UP WITH IT. 2074 00:55:23,287 --> 00:55:24,920 LET ALONE COME UP WITH IT. RICK MAY HAVE SENSED THE 2075 00:55:24,922 --> 00:55:25,954 RICK MAY HAVE SENSED THE DETECTIVES WERE SKEPTICAL, SO HE 2076 00:55:25,956 --> 00:55:27,690 DETECTIVES WERE SKEPTICAL, SO HE TRIED AGAIN. 2077 00:55:27,692 --> 00:55:28,290 TRIED AGAIN. >> THERE WAS CHEATING GOING ON 2078 00:55:28,292 --> 00:55:29,124 >> THERE WAS CHEATING GOING ON IN THE BEGINNING 2079 00:55:29,126 --> 00:55:31,193 IN THE BEGINNING >> Reporter: AND THEN, FINALLY, 2080 00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:31,794 >> Reporter: AND THEN, FINALLY, RICK SETTLED ON THE REAL STORY 2081 00:55:31,796 --> 00:55:32,828 RICK SETTLED ON THE REAL STORY >> WAS HER GETTING PREGNANT 2082 00:55:32,830 --> 00:55:33,896 >> WAS HER GETTING PREGNANT UNEXPECTED 2083 00:55:33,898 --> 00:55:36,098 UNEXPECTED >> IT WAS UNEXPECTED 2084 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:36,632 >> IT WAS UNEXPECTED >> Reporter: AFTER RICK'S 2085 00:55:36,634 --> 00:55:37,599 >> Reporter: AFTER RICK'S ARREST, WORD GOT OUT ABOUT THE 2086 00:55:37,601 --> 00:55:38,634 ARREST, WORD GOT OUT ABOUT THE AFFAIR 2087 00:55:38,636 --> 00:55:40,135 AFFAIR YOU THOUGHT THEY HAD A GOOD 2088 00:55:40,137 --> 00:55:41,270 YOU THOUGHT THEY HAD A GOOD MARRIAGE 2089 00:55:41,272 --> 00:55:42,338 MARRIAGE >> I HONESTLY THOUGHT I WAS 2090 00:55:42,340 --> 00:55:43,372 >> I HONESTLY THOUGHT I WAS BEING PUNKED 2091 00:55:43,374 --> 00:55:44,440 BEING PUNKED I WAS LIKE - 2092 00:55:44,442 --> 00:55:45,541 I WAS LIKE - >> IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE 2093 00:55:45,543 --> 00:55:46,575 >> IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE >> MY HUSBAND TOLD ME. 2094 00:55:46,577 --> 00:55:48,444 >> MY HUSBAND TOLD ME. HE'S LIKE, "LISTEN, HE HAS A 2095 00:55:48,446 --> 00:55:49,211 HE'S LIKE, "LISTEN, HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND 2096 00:55:49,213 --> 00:55:50,279 GIRLFRIEND SHE'S PREGNANT." 2097 00:55:50,281 --> 00:55:51,847 SHE'S PREGNANT." I'M LIKE, "GET OUT OF HERE 2098 00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:52,915 I'M LIKE, "GET OUT OF HERE WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?" 2099 00:55:52,917 --> 00:55:53,982 WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?" >> Reporter: FRIENDS AND FAMILY 2100 00:55:53,984 --> 00:55:55,017 >> Reporter: FRIENDS AND FAMILY BELIEVE THERE'S ZERO CHANCE 2101 00:55:55,019 --> 00:55:57,653 BELIEVE THERE'S ZERO CHANCE CONNIE KNEW ABOUT IT, AS RICK 2102 00:55:57,655 --> 00:55:58,721 CONNIE KNEW ABOUT IT, AS RICK HAD CLAIMED. 2103 00:55:58,723 --> 00:56:00,255 HAD CLAIMED. DO YOU THINK CONNIE FOUND OUT? 2104 00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:00,856 DO YOU THINK CONNIE FOUND OUT? >> SHE DEFINITELY DID NOT KNOW 2105 00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:01,890 >> SHE DEFINITELY DID NOT KNOW IF SHE HAD EVER FOUND OUT OR IF 2106 00:56:01,892 --> 00:56:03,759 IF SHE HAD EVER FOUND OUT OR IF SHE HAD KNOWN THAT WAS 2107 00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:04,526 SHE HAD KNOWN THAT WAS HAPPENING, SHE WOULD'VE SAID 2108 00:56:04,528 --> 00:56:05,594 HAPPENING, SHE WOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING TO SOMEONE 2109 00:56:05,596 --> 00:56:06,662 SOMETHING TO SOMEONE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHE 2110 00:56:06,664 --> 00:56:07,763 THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHE WOULD'VE NOT ACCEPTED. 2111 00:56:07,765 --> 00:56:08,764 WOULD'VE NOT ACCEPTED. >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY 2112 00:56:08,766 --> 00:56:09,832 >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY APPARENT, I THINK, IF SHE KNEW 2113 00:56:09,834 --> 00:56:10,899 APPARENT, I THINK, IF SHE KNEW I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN -- 2114 00:56:10,901 --> 00:56:11,934 I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN -- >> ANGRY 2115 00:56:11,936 --> 00:56:13,001 >> ANGRY >> VERY ANGRY. 2116 00:56:13,003 --> 00:56:14,269 >> VERY ANGRY. SHE WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY MOTHER. 2117 00:56:14,271 --> 00:56:15,104 SHE WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY MOTHER. SHE WOULD HAVE CALLED, SCREAMING 2118 00:56:15,106 --> 00:56:16,138 SHE WOULD HAVE CALLED, SCREAMING AND YELLING AND -- 2119 00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:17,172 AND YELLING AND -- >> Reporter: CONNIE WAS NO 2120 00:56:17,174 --> 00:56:18,273 >> Reporter: CONNIE WAS NO SHRINKING VIOLET 2121 00:56:18,275 --> 00:56:19,308 SHRINKING VIOLET >> NO. 2122 00:56:19,310 --> 00:56:20,376 >> NO. >> NO. 2123 00:56:20,378 --> 00:56:21,944 >> NO. >> NO. 2124 00:56:21,946 --> 00:56:22,978 >> NO. SO I DON'T -- I DON'T BELIEVE 2125 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:24,980 SO I DON'T -- I DON'T BELIEVE SHE KNEW 2126 00:56:24,982 --> 00:56:27,549 SHE KNEW >> AND I JUST KEPT ON THINKING, 2127 00:56:27,551 --> 00:56:28,817 >> AND I JUST KEPT ON THINKING, "OH, MY GOD. 2128 00:56:28,819 --> 00:56:29,885 "OH, MY GOD. I WAS SHOCKED. 2129 00:56:29,887 --> 00:56:31,453 I WAS SHOCKED. >> Reporter: RICK WAS LIVING A 2130 00:56:31,455 --> 00:56:32,688 >> Reporter: RICK WAS LIVING A SECRET LIFE. 2131 00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:33,555 SECRET LIFE. >> ABSOLUTELY. 2132 00:56:33,557 --> 00:56:35,157 >> ABSOLUTELY. YEAH 2133 00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:36,925 YEAH >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR 2134 00:56:36,927 --> 00:56:37,793 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR BELIEVED RICK'S SECRET LIFE WAS 2135 00:56:37,795 --> 00:56:38,861 BELIEVED RICK'S SECRET LIFE WAS ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH HIS 2136 00:56:38,863 --> 00:56:40,429 ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH HIS REAL LIFE. 2137 00:56:40,431 --> 00:56:41,363 REAL LIFE. >> AND SO THE PRESSURE WAS 2138 00:56:41,365 --> 00:56:41,997 >> AND SO THE PRESSURE WAS BUILDING 2139 00:56:41,999 --> 00:56:43,065 BUILDING AND HE ACTUALLY VOICED THAT TO 2140 00:56:43,067 --> 00:56:44,500 AND HE ACTUALLY VOICED THAT TO THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT HE 2141 00:56:44,502 --> 00:56:45,200 THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT HE TOLD ABOUT THIS, THAT HE WAS 2142 00:56:45,202 --> 00:56:46,235 TOLD ABOUT THIS, THAT HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT A DIVORCE, THAT HE 2143 00:56:46,237 --> 00:56:47,302 WORRIED ABOUT A DIVORCE, THAT HE WAS WORRIED THAT HE WAS GONNA 2144 00:56:47,304 --> 00:56:48,337 WAS WORRIED THAT HE WAS GONNA LOSE HIS FRIENDS 2145 00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:49,405 LOSE HIS FRIENDS HE WAS GONNA LOSE HIS FAMILY 2146 00:56:49,407 --> 00:56:51,240 HE WAS GONNA LOSE HIS FAMILY >> Reporter: HE NEEDED TO 2147 00:56:51,242 --> 00:56:52,007 >> Reporter: HE NEEDED TO RESOLVE THIS SITUATION TO THE 2148 00:56:52,009 --> 00:56:53,542 RESOLVE THIS SITUATION TO THE POINT THAT -- THAT YOU BELIEVED 2149 00:56:53,544 --> 00:56:54,676 POINT THAT -- THAT YOU BELIEVED HE TOOK A LIFE, HIS WIFE 2150 00:56:54,678 --> 00:56:56,245 HE TOOK A LIFE, HIS WIFE >> WELL, WE DON'T GRADE THEM ON 2151 00:56:56,247 --> 00:56:57,312 >> WELL, WE DON'T GRADE THEM ON THE WISDOM OF THEIR PLAN 2152 00:56:57,314 --> 00:56:58,380 THE WISDOM OF THEIR PLAN WE JUST GRADE 'EM WHETHER 2153 00:56:58,382 --> 00:56:59,948 WE JUST GRADE 'EM WHETHER THEY'RE GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY 2154 00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:01,283 THEY'RE GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY AND BY ANY STRETCH OF THE 2155 00:57:01,285 --> 00:57:03,118 AND BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, NO ONE WOULD THINK 2156 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,153 IMAGINATION, NO ONE WOULD THINK THIS WAS A GOOD PLAN TO RESOLVE 2157 00:57:04,155 --> 00:57:05,187 THIS WAS A GOOD PLAN TO RESOLVE HIS PROBLEM. 2158 00:57:05,189 --> 00:57:06,789 HIS PROBLEM. NO ONE WOULD 2159 00:57:06,791 --> 00:57:07,890 NO ONE WOULD BUT THIS WAS THE PLAN HE CAME UP 2160 00:57:07,892 --> 00:57:08,924 BUT THIS WAS THE PLAN HE CAME UP WITH 2161 00:57:08,926 --> 00:57:10,492 WITH >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR'S 2162 00:57:10,494 --> 00:57:11,593 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR'S PLAN WAS TO LAY IT ALL OUT FOR A 2163 00:57:11,595 --> 00:57:12,628 PLAN WAS TO LAY IT ALL OUT FOR A JURY 2164 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:13,695 JURY BUT AS HE WOULD SOON FIND OUT, 2165 00:57:13,697 --> 00:57:14,730 BUT AS HE WOULD SOON FIND OUT, THINGS DON'T ALWAYS GO ACCORDING 2166 00:57:14,732 --> 00:57:16,331 THINGS DON'T ALWAYS GO ACCORDING TO PLAN. 2167 00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:17,366 TO PLAN. >> I THINK SHE WAS A VERY 2168 00:57:17,368 --> 00:57:18,901 >> I THINK SHE WAS A VERY RELUCTANT WITNESS. 2169 00:57:18,903 --> 00:57:21,069 RELUCTANT WITNESS. I THINK SHE WAS VERY RELUCTANT 2170 00:57:21,071 --> 00:57:22,304 I THINK SHE WAS VERY RELUCTANT TO PROVIDE ANSWERS 2171 00:57:22,306 --> 00:57:23,172 TO PROVIDE ANSWERS >>> COMING UP -- 2172 00:57:23,174 --> 00:57:24,740 >>> COMING UP -- IS THE PROSECUTION'S STAR 2173 00:57:24,742 --> 00:57:26,842 IS THE PROSECUTION'S STAR WITNESS ABOUT TO THROW A CURVE 2174 00:57:26,844 --> 00:57:27,910 WITNESS ABOUT TO THROW A CURVE BALL 2175 00:57:27,912 --> 00:57:28,911 BALL >> Reporter: HOW WOULD YOU 2176 00:57:28,913 --> 00:57:30,946 >> Reporter: HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE SARA GANZER IN COURT? 2177 00:57:30,948 --> 00:57:32,514 DESCRIBE SARA GANZER IN COURT? WAS SHE ON YOUR SIDE 2178 00:57:32,516 --> 00:57:34,683 WAS SHE ON YOUR SIDE >> I WOULD SAY SHE WAS NOT ON 2179 00:57:34,685 --> 00:57:35,350 >> I WOULD SAY SHE WAS NOT ON THE STATE'S SIDE 2180 00:57:35,352 --> 00:57:36,351 THE STATE'S SIDE I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS HOSTILE 2181 00:57:36,353 --> 00:57:55,938 I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS HOSTILE BUT I WOULD SAY SHE APPROACHED 2182 00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:57,506 BUT I WOULD SAY SHE APPROACHED >> Reporter: RICK DABATE HAD 2183 00:57:57,508 --> 00:58:01,210 >> Reporter: RICK DABATE HAD BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH 2184 00:58:01,212 --> 00:58:02,277 BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE, CONNIE 2185 00:58:02,279 --> 00:58:03,312 THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE, CONNIE HE HAD PLANNED FOR THIS 2186 00:58:03,314 --> 00:58:04,346 HE HAD PLANNED FOR THIS POSSIBILITY WHEN, THE DAY AFTER 2187 00:58:04,348 --> 00:58:05,380 POSSIBILITY WHEN, THE DAY AFTER CONNIE'S MURDER, HE HIRED 2188 00:58:05,382 --> 00:58:07,015 CONNIE'S MURDER, HE HIRED HUBERT SANTOS, ONE OF THE MOST 2189 00:58:07,017 --> 00:58:08,584 HUBERT SANTOS, ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY REGARDED DEFENSE 2190 00:58:08,586 --> 00:58:11,753 HIGHLY REGARDED DEFENSE ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE, AND HIS 2191 00:58:11,755 --> 00:58:12,287 ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE, AND HIS PARTNER TRENT LALIMA 2192 00:58:12,289 --> 00:58:13,822 PARTNER TRENT LALIMA AND THAT WAS THE MORNING OF 2193 00:58:13,824 --> 00:58:14,890 AND THAT WAS THE MORNING OF CHRISTMAS EVE? 2194 00:58:14,892 --> 00:58:17,025 CHRISTMAS EVE? >> YES 2195 00:58:17,027 --> 00:58:18,093 >> YES >> Reporter: THAT'S AN 2196 00:58:18,095 --> 00:58:20,162 >> Reporter: THAT'S AN INTERESTING TIME TO GET A CALL 2197 00:58:20,164 --> 00:58:21,263 INTERESTING TIME TO GET A CALL FROM A POTENTIAL NEW CLIENT. 2198 00:58:21,265 --> 00:58:22,264 FROM A POTENTIAL NEW CLIENT. >> SOMETIMES IN CRIMINAL DEFENSE 2199 00:58:22,266 --> 00:58:23,899 >> SOMETIMES IN CRIMINAL DEFENSE THINGS ARE URGENT. 2200 00:58:23,901 --> 00:58:24,967 THINGS ARE URGENT. THINGS COME UP 2201 00:58:24,969 --> 00:58:26,435 THINGS COME UP >> Reporter: BUT A SENSE OF 2202 00:58:26,437 --> 00:58:27,069 >> Reporter: BUT A SENSE OF URGENCY DIDN'T SEEM TO APPLY TO 2203 00:58:27,071 --> 00:58:28,637 URGENCY DIDN'T SEEM TO APPLY TO THE COURTS 2204 00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,239 THE COURTS AND ANY NOTION THAT JUSTICE 2205 00:58:30,241 --> 00:58:31,940 AND ANY NOTION THAT JUSTICE WOULD BE SWIFT QUICKLY 2206 00:58:31,942 --> 00:58:32,875 WOULD BE SWIFT QUICKLY EVAPORATED 2207 00:58:32,877 --> 00:58:34,643 EVAPORATED THE TRIAL WAS DELAYED AGAIN AND 2208 00:58:34,645 --> 00:58:36,044 THE TRIAL WAS DELAYED AGAIN AND AGAIN. 2209 00:58:36,046 --> 00:58:38,680 AGAIN. AND AGAIN. 2210 00:58:38,682 --> 00:58:40,516 AND AGAIN. THREE YEARS PASSED 2211 00:58:40,518 --> 00:58:41,850 THREE YEARS PASSED AND THE ENTIRE TIME, RICK WAS 2212 00:58:41,852 --> 00:58:42,384 AND THE ENTIRE TIME, RICK WAS FREE ON BAIL 2213 00:58:42,386 --> 00:58:45,020 FREE ON BAIL HOW DID YOU COPE 2214 00:58:45,022 --> 00:58:47,689 HOW DID YOU COPE >> NOT EASY. 2215 00:58:47,691 --> 00:58:48,690 >> NOT EASY. IT'S NOT EASY. 2216 00:58:48,692 --> 00:58:50,292 IT'S NOT EASY. >> YOU PUT IT IN A BOX 2217 00:58:50,294 --> 00:58:51,326 >> YOU PUT IT IN A BOX YOU TAKE IT OUT AND DEAL WITH IT 2218 00:58:51,328 --> 00:58:52,361 YOU TAKE IT OUT AND DEAL WITH IT WHEN YOU HAVE TO 2219 00:58:52,363 --> 00:58:53,428 WHEN YOU HAVE TO YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE SHELF 2220 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:54,963 YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE SHELF AND I THINK WE ALSO LEANED ON 2221 00:58:54,965 --> 00:58:56,031 AND I THINK WE ALSO LEANED ON EACH OTHER 2222 00:58:56,033 --> 00:58:58,133 EACH OTHER BUT THERE'S NO MANUAL FOR THIS 2223 00:58:58,135 --> 00:58:59,268 BUT THERE'S NO MANUAL FOR THIS YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- HOW TO 2224 00:58:59,270 --> 00:59:00,302 YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- HOW TO COPE WITH THIS 2225 00:59:00,304 --> 00:59:01,403 COPE WITH THIS >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE 2226 00:59:01,405 --> 00:59:02,938 >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE HE'S GETTING THIS KIND OF FREE 2227 00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:04,006 HE'S GETTING THIS KIND OF FREE PASS IN THE MEANTIME THAT HE IS 2228 00:59:04,008 --> 00:59:05,040 PASS IN THE MEANTIME THAT HE IS OUT AND ABOUT? 2229 00:59:05,042 --> 00:59:06,642 OUT AND ABOUT? >> DEFINITELY. 2230 00:59:06,644 --> 00:59:08,210 >> DEFINITELY. >> YEAH. 2231 00:59:08,212 --> 00:59:08,844 >> YEAH. >> I REMEMBER ONE PERSON SAYING, 2232 00:59:08,846 --> 00:59:10,846 >> I REMEMBER ONE PERSON SAYING, "THE ONLY PERSON DANCING IN THE 2233 00:59:10,848 --> 00:59:11,213 "THE ONLY PERSON DANCING IN THE STREETS IS HIM." 2234 00:59:11,215 --> 00:59:12,414 STREETS IS HIM." AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY'S 2235 00:59:12,416 --> 00:59:13,448 AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY'S DEVASTATED 2236 00:59:13,450 --> 00:59:14,516 DEVASTATED >> Reporter: THE DEVASTATION WAS 2237 00:59:14,518 --> 00:59:17,185 >> Reporter: THE DEVASTATION WAS COMPOUNDED WHEN CONNIE'S FATHER 2238 00:59:17,187 --> 00:59:19,454 COMPOUNDED WHEN CONNIE'S FATHER DIED OF CANCER IN 2019 2239 00:59:19,456 --> 00:59:21,390 DIED OF CANCER IN 2019 >> I'M CONVINCED, FOR HIM -- HE 2240 00:59:21,392 --> 00:59:24,560 >> I'M CONVINCED, FOR HIM -- HE WAS HOLDING ON WITH VERY BAD 2241 00:59:24,562 --> 00:59:26,161 WAS HOLDING ON WITH VERY BAD HEALTH, HOPING TO SEE THIS 2242 00:59:26,163 --> 00:59:26,728 HEALTH, HOPING TO SEE THIS THROUGH, JUST WANTING TO BE 2243 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:28,096 THROUGH, JUST WANTING TO BE THERE FOR ALL OF US. 2244 00:59:28,098 --> 00:59:30,365 THERE FOR ALL OF US. I MEAN, HE WANTED TO BE THE ROCK 2245 00:59:30,367 --> 00:59:32,501 I MEAN, HE WANTED TO BE THE ROCK FOR US 2246 00:59:32,503 --> 00:59:34,603 FOR US AND HIS BODY JUST GAVE OUT 2247 00:59:34,605 --> 00:59:36,171 AND HIS BODY JUST GAVE OUT >> Reporter: EVENTUALLY THE 2248 00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:37,205 >> Reporter: EVENTUALLY THE OPPOSING SIDES ASSEMBLED IN A 2249 00:59:37,207 --> 00:59:39,341 OPPOSING SIDES ASSEMBLED IN A CONNECTICUT COURTROOM AND 2250 00:59:39,343 --> 00:59:40,909 CONNECTICUT COURTROOM AND SELECTED A JURY. 2251 00:59:40,911 --> 00:59:42,477 SELECTED A JURY. IT WAS THE EVE OF THE TRIAL, 2252 00:59:42,479 --> 00:59:43,512 IT WAS THE EVE OF THE TRIAL, MARCH 2020 2253 00:59:43,514 --> 00:59:44,580 MARCH 2020 >> AND THEN COVID HAPPENED 2254 00:59:44,582 --> 00:59:46,448 >> AND THEN COVID HAPPENED AND WE THOUGHT WE'D BE OUT A 2255 00:59:46,450 --> 00:59:47,249 AND WE THOUGHT WE'D BE OUT A WEEK OR TWO. 2256 00:59:47,251 --> 00:59:48,283 WEEK OR TWO. BUT OBVIOUSLY COVID HAD OTHER 2257 00:59:48,285 --> 00:59:49,384 BUT OBVIOUSLY COVID HAD OTHER IDEAS FOR US 2258 00:59:49,386 --> 00:59:50,419 IDEAS FOR US IT WASN'T A WEEK 2259 00:59:50,421 --> 00:59:51,486 IT WASN'T A WEEK IT WASN'T TWO WEEKS. 2260 00:59:51,488 --> 00:59:53,055 IT WASN'T TWO WEEKS. AND THEN IT TURNED INTO MONTHS 2261 00:59:53,057 --> 00:59:54,089 AND THEN IT TURNED INTO MONTHS AND YEARS. 2262 00:59:54,091 --> 00:59:55,557 AND YEARS. >> Reporter: RICK'S ATTORNEY, 2263 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:56,224 >> Reporter: RICK'S ATTORNEY, HUBERT SANTOS, PASSED AWAY 2264 00:59:56,226 --> 00:59:57,292 HUBERT SANTOS, PASSED AWAY DURING THIS TIME, CAUSING A 2265 00:59:57,294 --> 00:59:58,327 DURING THIS TIME, CAUSING A FURTHER DELAY. 2266 00:59:58,329 --> 00:59:59,328 FURTHER DELAY. TRENT LALIMA WOULD NOW TRY THE 2267 00:59:59,330 --> 01:00:01,129 TRENT LALIMA WOULD NOW TRY THE CASE WITHOUT HIS PARTNER AND 2268 01:00:01,131 --> 01:00:01,964 CASE WITHOUT HIS PARTNER AND MENTOR 2269 01:00:01,966 --> 01:00:03,498 MENTOR >> WE ALREADY KNEW WHAT OUR 2270 01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:04,232 >> WE ALREADY KNEW WHAT OUR STRATEGY WAS, WHAT OUR DEFENSE 2271 01:00:04,234 --> 01:00:05,834 STRATEGY WAS, WHAT OUR DEFENSE WOULD BE 2272 01:00:05,836 --> 01:00:07,169 WOULD BE AND SO AS MUCH AS HE WAS NOT 2273 01:00:07,171 --> 01:00:09,938 AND SO AS MUCH AS HE WAS NOT THERE FOR THE TRIAL, HIS IDEAS, 2274 01:00:09,940 --> 01:00:11,506 THERE FOR THE TRIAL, HIS IDEAS, HIS PLANNING, THEY WERE. 2275 01:00:11,508 --> 01:00:14,176 HIS PLANNING, THEY WERE. >> Reporter: YOU BELIEVE THE 2276 01:00:14,178 --> 01:00:15,744 >> Reporter: YOU BELIEVE THE POLICE REALLY HAD TUNNEL VISION 2277 01:00:15,746 --> 01:00:17,312 POLICE REALLY HAD TUNNEL VISION IN THIS CASE FROM THE BEGINNING. 2278 01:00:17,314 --> 01:00:18,380 IN THIS CASE FROM THE BEGINNING. >> THAT WAS A CLEAR PART OF OUR 2279 01:00:18,382 --> 01:00:19,982 >> THAT WAS A CLEAR PART OF OUR THEORY AT TRIAL. 2280 01:00:19,984 --> 01:00:20,582 THEORY AT TRIAL. THE STATE HAD ALREADY HONED IN 2281 01:00:20,584 --> 01:00:22,117 THE STATE HAD ALREADY HONED IN ON HIM FROM THE BEGINNING, AND 2282 01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:23,151 ON HIM FROM THE BEGINNING, AND THAT THEY MADE THEIR MIND UP AND 2283 01:00:23,153 --> 01:00:25,287 THAT THEY MADE THEIR MIND UP AND WORKED BACKWARDS FROM THERE. 2284 01:00:25,289 --> 01:00:26,321 WORKED BACKWARDS FROM THERE. >> Reporter: WHEN THE TRIAL 2285 01:00:26,323 --> 01:00:28,357 >> Reporter: WHEN THE TRIAL FINALLY STARTED IN APRIL 2022, 2286 01:00:28,359 --> 01:00:29,491 FINALLY STARTED IN APRIL 2022, THE STATE, LED BY 2287 01:00:29,493 --> 01:00:30,525 THE STATE, LED BY MATTHEW GEDANSKY, TOLD THE JURY 2288 01:00:30,527 --> 01:00:31,627 MATTHEW GEDANSKY, TOLD THE JURY IT WAS NOT TUNNEL VISION THAT 2289 01:00:31,629 --> 01:00:33,128 IT WAS NOT TUNNEL VISION THAT POINTED THE FINGER AT RICK 2290 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:35,797 POINTED THE FINGER AT RICK DABATE, BUT CONCRETE EVIDENCE. 2291 01:00:35,799 --> 01:00:36,832 DABATE, BUT CONCRETE EVIDENCE. LOTS OF IT 2292 01:00:36,834 --> 01:00:39,501 LOTS OF IT HE BROUGHT IN THE STATE POLICE 2293 01:00:39,503 --> 01:00:41,069 HE BROUGHT IN THE STATE POLICE TO EXPLAIN HOW THE CRIME SCENE 2294 01:00:41,071 --> 01:00:42,638 TO EXPLAIN HOW THE CRIME SCENE LOOKED STAGED, HOW ROCKY THE 2295 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,773 LOOKED STAGED, HOW ROCKY THE K-9 HAD TRACED RICK'S, AND ONLY 2296 01:00:44,775 --> 01:00:45,841 K-9 HAD TRACED RICK'S, AND ONLY RICK'S, SCENT AT THE SCENE 2297 01:00:45,843 --> 01:00:46,975 RICK'S, SCENT AT THE SCENE AND HE SPELLED OUT WHAT HE SAID 2298 01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:49,511 AND HE SPELLED OUT WHAT HE SAID WERE HOLES IN RICK'S STORY ABOUT 2299 01:00:49,513 --> 01:00:51,113 WERE HOLES IN RICK'S STORY ABOUT THAT DAY 2300 01:00:51,115 --> 01:00:52,114 THAT DAY AND, OF COURSE, THE PROSECUTOR 2301 01:00:52,116 --> 01:00:54,216 AND, OF COURSE, THE PROSECUTOR TOLD THE JURY WHY RICK KILLED 2302 01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:54,783 TOLD THE JURY WHY RICK KILLED CONNIE 2303 01:00:54,785 --> 01:00:58,487 CONNIE >> SO THE MOTIVE WAS HIS 2304 01:00:58,489 --> 01:00:59,554 >> SO THE MOTIVE WAS HIS PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND. 2305 01:00:59,556 --> 01:01:01,089 PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND. >> Reporter: AND WHO BETTER TO 2306 01:01:01,091 --> 01:01:02,157 >> Reporter: AND WHO BETTER TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THE JURY THAN 2307 01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:03,759 EXPLAIN THAT TO THE JURY THAN THE WOMAN HERSELF. 2308 01:01:03,761 --> 01:01:05,827 THE WOMAN HERSELF. >> THE STATE IS GOING TO CALL 2309 01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:07,462 >> THE STATE IS GOING TO CALL SARA GANZER NEXT 2310 01:01:07,464 --> 01:01:09,031 SARA GANZER NEXT >> Reporter: CAMERAS WEREN'T 2311 01:01:09,033 --> 01:01:10,098 >> Reporter: CAMERAS WEREN'T ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM, BUT 2312 01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:12,200 ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM, BUT THIS IS AN AUDIO RECORDING OF 2313 01:01:12,202 --> 01:01:15,337 THIS IS AN AUDIO RECORDING OF THE WOMAN AT THE CENTER OF THE 2314 01:01:15,339 --> 01:01:15,871 THE WOMAN AT THE CENTER OF THE LOVE TRIANGLE, SARA GANZER 2315 01:01:15,873 --> 01:01:16,438 LOVE TRIANGLE, SARA GANZER REPORTERS COVERING THE TRIAL 2316 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,540 REPORTERS COVERING THE TRIAL WERE KEENLY FOCUSED ON HER 2317 01:01:18,542 --> 01:01:20,142 WERE KEENLY FOCUSED ON HER TESTIMONY. 2318 01:01:20,144 --> 01:01:21,343 TESTIMONY. >> WHEN SARA GANZER WALKS INTO 2319 01:01:21,345 --> 01:01:23,311 >> WHEN SARA GANZER WALKS INTO THE COURTROOM, I MEAN, YOU COULD 2320 01:01:23,313 --> 01:01:25,747 THE COURTROOM, I MEAN, YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP. 2321 01:01:25,749 --> 01:01:26,481 HEAR A PIN DROP. THIS IS THE TESTIMONY THAT SO 2322 01:01:26,483 --> 01:01:28,550 THIS IS THE TESTIMONY THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAD BEEN WAITING TO 2323 01:01:28,552 --> 01:01:29,584 MANY PEOPLE HAD BEEN WAITING TO HEAR 2324 01:01:29,586 --> 01:01:31,186 HEAR >> AT SOME POINT, UM, DID YOU 2325 01:01:31,188 --> 01:01:32,721 >> AT SOME POINT, UM, DID YOU BECOME PREGNANT? 2326 01:01:32,723 --> 01:01:33,789 BECOME PREGNANT? >> I DID 2327 01:01:33,791 --> 01:01:35,424 >> I DID >> AND WHO WAS THE FATHER OF THE 2328 01:01:35,426 --> 01:01:38,460 >> AND WHO WAS THE FATHER OF THE BABY 2329 01:01:38,462 --> 01:01:39,628 BABY >> RICK DABATE 2330 01:01:39,630 --> 01:01:40,696 >> RICK DABATE >> I THINK THE JURY EMPATHIZED 2331 01:01:40,698 --> 01:01:43,331 >> I THINK THE JURY EMPATHIZED WITH SARA. 2332 01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:44,399 WITH SARA. SHE TOLD THE COURT SEVERAL TIMES 2333 01:01:44,401 --> 01:01:45,467 SHE TOLD THE COURT SEVERAL TIMES THIS WAS TOUGH TESTIMONY TO DO 2334 01:01:45,469 --> 01:01:46,768 THIS WAS TOUGH TESTIMONY TO DO SHE WAS SHARING HER MOST 2335 01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:48,637 SHE WAS SHARING HER MOST PERSONAL, INTIMATE DETAILS WITH 2336 01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:50,205 PERSONAL, INTIMATE DETAILS WITH STRANGERS. 2337 01:01:50,207 --> 01:01:51,773 STRANGERS. >> MISS GANZER, EVEN BEFORE YOU 2338 01:01:51,775 --> 01:01:54,976 >> MISS GANZER, EVEN BEFORE YOU GOT PREGNANT WITH THE 2339 01:01:54,978 --> 01:01:56,712 GOT PREGNANT WITH THE DEFENDANT'S BABY, WAS THE 2340 01:01:56,714 --> 01:01:57,345 DEFENDANT'S BABY, WAS THE DEFENDANT INDICATING TO YOU THAT 2341 01:01:57,347 --> 01:01:59,715 DEFENDANT INDICATING TO YOU THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DIVORCE? 2342 01:01:59,717 --> 01:02:00,782 THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DIVORCE? >> YES 2343 01:02:00,784 --> 01:02:02,851 >> YES >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION 2344 01:02:02,853 --> 01:02:03,452 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION ARGUED THAT DESPITE WHAT RICK 2345 01:02:03,454 --> 01:02:04,019 ARGUED THAT DESPITE WHAT RICK HAD TOLD SARA, THERE WAS NO 2346 01:02:04,021 --> 01:02:06,054 HAD TOLD SARA, THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE HE AND CONNIE WERE 2347 01:02:06,056 --> 01:02:07,622 EVIDENCE HE AND CONNIE WERE DIVORCING. 2348 01:02:07,624 --> 01:02:09,224 DIVORCING. BUT SARA'S TIME ON THE STAND WAS 2349 01:02:09,226 --> 01:02:11,326 BUT SARA'S TIME ON THE STAND WAS NOT WITHOUT ITS PROBLEMS FOR 2350 01:02:11,328 --> 01:02:12,761 NOT WITHOUT ITS PROBLEMS FOR GEDANSKY AND HIS CASE. 2351 01:02:12,763 --> 01:02:13,962 GEDANSKY AND HIS CASE. HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE 2352 01:02:13,964 --> 01:02:16,098 HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE SARA GANZER IN COURT 2353 01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:18,200 SARA GANZER IN COURT WAS SHE ON YOUR SIDE 2354 01:02:18,202 --> 01:02:19,234 WAS SHE ON YOUR SIDE >> NO. 2355 01:02:19,236 --> 01:02:20,268 >> NO. I WOULD SAY SHE WAS NOT ON THE 2356 01:02:20,270 --> 01:02:21,303 I WOULD SAY SHE WAS NOT ON THE STATE'S SIDE 2357 01:02:21,305 --> 01:02:22,938 STATE'S SIDE I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS HOSTILE 2358 01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:24,539 I WOULDN'T SAY SHE WAS HOSTILE BUT I WOULD SAY SHE APPROACHED 2359 01:02:24,541 --> 01:02:25,607 BUT I WOULD SAY SHE APPROACHED THAT LINE. 2360 01:02:25,609 --> 01:02:26,641 THAT LINE. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION'S 2361 01:02:26,643 --> 01:02:28,744 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION'S THEORY WAS THAT RICK DABATE WAS 2362 01:02:28,746 --> 01:02:30,846 THEORY WAS THAT RICK DABATE WAS UNDER IMMENSE PRESSURE 2363 01:02:30,848 --> 01:02:35,050 UNDER IMMENSE PRESSURE BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SARA SAID. 2364 01:02:35,052 --> 01:02:36,151 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SARA SAID. >> MISS GANZER, IS IT YOUR 2365 01:02:36,153 --> 01:02:39,821 >> MISS GANZER, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY YOU NEVER CONVEYED 2366 01:02:39,823 --> 01:02:40,756 TESTIMONY YOU NEVER CONVEYED THAT YOU WERE UPSET THAT HE DID 2367 01:02:40,758 --> 01:02:41,957 THAT YOU WERE UPSET THAT HE DID NOT FILE FOR A DIVORCE 2368 01:02:41,959 --> 01:02:45,060 NOT FILE FOR A DIVORCE >> I DON'T -- I DON'T RECALL 2369 01:02:45,062 --> 01:02:45,627 >> I DON'T -- I DON'T RECALL TELLING HIM THAT 2370 01:02:45,629 --> 01:02:47,229 TELLING HIM THAT >> DID YOU EVER SHUT HIM OUT, SO 2371 01:02:47,231 --> 01:02:48,797 >> DID YOU EVER SHUT HIM OUT, SO TO SPEAK, AND SAY, "THAT'S IT" 2372 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:49,865 TO SPEAK, AND SAY, "THAT'S IT" >> WELL, YEAH. 2373 01:02:49,867 --> 01:02:53,535 >> WELL, YEAH. THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM SAYING, "I 2374 01:02:53,537 --> 01:02:54,569 THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM SAYING, "I WANT YOU TO GET A DIVORCE. 2375 01:02:54,571 --> 01:02:56,104 WANT YOU TO GET A DIVORCE. >> DID HE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE 2376 01:02:56,106 --> 01:02:59,341 >> DID HE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRESSURE OF YOUR SITUATION AND 2377 01:02:59,343 --> 01:03:01,510 PRESSURE OF YOUR SITUATION AND HIS SITUATION? 2378 01:03:01,512 --> 01:03:03,545 HIS SITUATION? >> NOT -- NOT -- NOT REALLY TO 2379 01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:04,112 >> NOT -- NOT -- NOT REALLY TO ME 2380 01:03:04,114 --> 01:03:06,214 ME HE NEVER SAID, "THE PRESSURE IS 2381 01:03:06,216 --> 01:03:06,748 HE NEVER SAID, "THE PRESSURE IS GETTING TO ME. 2382 01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:08,817 GETTING TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT BEHAVIORS 2383 01:03:08,819 --> 01:03:09,317 I DON'T KNOW WHAT BEHAVIORS WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT. 2384 01:03:09,319 --> 01:03:11,386 WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT. >> SO I THINK THE PROSECUTION, 2385 01:03:11,388 --> 01:03:12,721 >> SO I THINK THE PROSECUTION, OBVIOUSLY, KINDA HAD THIS 2386 01:03:12,723 --> 01:03:16,258 OBVIOUSLY, KINDA HAD THIS PREGNANCY AS THE REASON, THE 2387 01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:17,926 PREGNANCY AS THE REASON, THE MOTIVE BEHIND THIS MURDER. 2388 01:03:17,928 --> 01:03:18,894 MOTIVE BEHIND THIS MURDER. BUT IN SARA'S TESTIMONY, SHE 2389 01:03:18,896 --> 01:03:20,996 BUT IN SARA'S TESTIMONY, SHE WASN'T LOOKING TO BREAK UP A 2390 01:03:20,998 --> 01:03:23,098 WASN'T LOOKING TO BREAK UP A FAMILY AT ALL. 2391 01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,233 FAMILY AT ALL. AND SO I THINK, IN SOME CASES, 2392 01:03:25,235 --> 01:03:26,268 AND SO I THINK, IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, IT HELPED PAINT THE 2393 01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:27,302 YOU KNOW, IT HELPED PAINT THE PICTURE THAT SHE WAS NOT PUTTING 2394 01:03:27,304 --> 01:03:29,971 PICTURE THAT SHE WAS NOT PUTTING PRESSURE ON RICHARD DABATE TO 2395 01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:31,039 PRESSURE ON RICHARD DABATE TO MAKE A DECISION. 2396 01:03:31,041 --> 01:03:32,607 MAKE A DECISION. >> Reporter: IN THE MONTHS 2397 01:03:32,609 --> 01:03:33,675 >> Reporter: IN THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE MURDER, RICK 2398 01:03:33,677 --> 01:03:35,777 LEADING UP TO THE MURDER, RICK HAD TEXTED TENDERLY WITH SARA, 2399 01:03:35,779 --> 01:03:38,413 HAD TEXTED TENDERLY WITH SARA, REFERRING TO HER AS HIS "LITTLE 2400 01:03:38,415 --> 01:03:38,947 REFERRING TO HER AS HIS "LITTLE LOVE NUGGET. 2401 01:03:38,949 --> 01:03:41,016 LOVE NUGGET. AND WHEN INVESTIGATORS DUG INTO 2402 01:03:41,018 --> 01:03:42,651 AND WHEN INVESTIGATORS DUG INTO SARA'S PRIVATE FACEBOOK 2403 01:03:42,653 --> 01:03:43,718 SARA'S PRIVATE FACEBOOK MESSAGES, THEY SAID THERE WAS 2404 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,821 MESSAGES, THEY SAID THERE WAS EVIDENCE RICK HAD BEEN TRASHING 2405 01:03:45,823 --> 01:03:46,888 EVIDENCE RICK HAD BEEN TRASHING HIS WIFE TO HIS GIRLFRIEND 2406 01:03:46,890 --> 01:03:49,491 HIS WIFE TO HIS GIRLFRIEND >> DID HE EVER CALL HER NAMES 2407 01:03:49,493 --> 01:03:50,592 >> DID HE EVER CALL HER NAMES THAT WERE -- 2408 01:03:50,594 --> 01:03:51,593 THAT WERE -- >> I THINK THAT MARRIED PEOPLE 2409 01:03:51,595 --> 01:03:53,228 >> I THINK THAT MARRIED PEOPLE SAY, AND EVEN DATING PEOPLE SAY, 2410 01:03:53,230 --> 01:03:54,729 SAY, AND EVEN DATING PEOPLE SAY, FLIPPANT THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER 2411 01:03:54,731 --> 01:03:56,331 FLIPPANT THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME TO OTHER PEOPLE 2412 01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:59,568 ALL THE TIME TO OTHER PEOPLE >> DID HE EVER CALL HER NAMES? 2413 01:03:59,570 --> 01:04:00,569 >> DID HE EVER CALL HER NAMES? >> I'M SURE HE DID 2414 01:04:00,571 --> 01:04:02,170 >> I'M SURE HE DID PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TO REMEMBER 2415 01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:04,239 PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TO REMEMBER ANY OF 'EM BECAUSE IT WAS SEVEN 2416 01:04:04,241 --> 01:04:05,173 ANY OF 'EM BECAUSE IT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO. 2417 01:04:05,175 --> 01:04:06,341 YEARS AGO. >> Reporter: SARA APPEARED 2418 01:04:06,343 --> 01:04:08,310 >> Reporter: SARA APPEARED RELUCTANT TO HELP THE 2419 01:04:08,312 --> 01:04:09,010 RELUCTANT TO HELP THE PROSECUTION. 2420 01:04:09,012 --> 01:04:10,612 PROSECUTION. AND IN FACT, DEFENSE ATTORNEY 2421 01:04:10,614 --> 01:04:13,215 AND IN FACT, DEFENSE ATTORNEY TRENT LALIMA BELIEVED SHE 2422 01:04:13,217 --> 01:04:15,050 TRENT LALIMA BELIEVED SHE ACTUALLY HELPED HIS CLIENT 2423 01:04:15,052 --> 01:04:17,719 ACTUALLY HELPED HIS CLIENT >> IT WAS QUITE CLEAR SHE WASN'T 2424 01:04:17,721 --> 01:04:19,554 >> IT WAS QUITE CLEAR SHE WASN'T PUTTING ANY PRESSURE ON HIM. 2425 01:04:19,556 --> 01:04:20,622 PUTTING ANY PRESSURE ON HIM. SHE HAD TOLD HIM THAT, "YOU JUST 2426 01:04:20,624 --> 01:04:21,623 SHE HAD TOLD HIM THAT, "YOU JUST SAY THE WORD AND I WON'T PUT THE 2427 01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:22,958 SAY THE WORD AND I WON'T PUT THE FATHER'S NAME ON THE BIRTH 2428 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,326 FATHER'S NAME ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 2429 01:04:24,328 --> 01:04:25,427 CERTIFICATE. I WON'T MENTION YOUR NAME TO 2430 01:04:25,429 --> 01:04:27,495 I WON'T MENTION YOUR NAME TO ANYBODY. 2431 01:04:27,497 --> 01:04:30,131 ANYBODY. NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THAT THIS 2432 01:04:30,133 --> 01:04:33,568 NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THAT THIS IS YOUR CHILD. 2433 01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:34,369 IS YOUR CHILD. SO HOW WAS THE PRESSURE ON IF 2434 01:04:34,371 --> 01:04:35,437 SO HOW WAS THE PRESSURE ON IF SHE'S TELLING HIM, "YOU CAN JUST 2435 01:04:35,439 --> 01:04:36,471 SHE'S TELLING HIM, "YOU CAN JUST GO BACK TO HER AND THIS -- AND 2436 01:04:36,473 --> 01:04:37,706 GO BACK TO HER AND THIS -- AND WE CAN PRETEND THIS NEVER 2437 01:04:37,708 --> 01:04:38,573 WE CAN PRETEND THIS NEVER HAPPENED"? 2438 01:04:38,575 --> 01:04:40,175 HAPPENED"? >> Reporter: AND THAT WAS 2439 01:04:40,177 --> 01:04:41,776 >> Reporter: AND THAT WAS EXACTLY THE POINT THE DEFENSE 2440 01:04:41,778 --> 01:04:42,777 EXACTLY THE POINT THE DEFENSE WANTED TO HAMMER HOME WHEN THEY 2441 01:04:42,779 --> 01:04:44,412 WANTED TO HAMMER HOME WHEN THEY QUESTIONED SARA. 2442 01:04:44,414 --> 01:04:45,413 QUESTIONED SARA. >> BECAUSE OF YOUR NATURE, WAS 2443 01:04:45,415 --> 01:04:47,015 >> BECAUSE OF YOUR NATURE, WAS IT OFTEN THE CASE THAT YOU 2444 01:04:47,017 --> 01:04:48,049 IT OFTEN THE CASE THAT YOU DIDN'T REGULARLY BRING UP THE 2445 01:04:48,051 --> 01:04:50,685 DIDN'T REGULARLY BRING UP THE PROSPECT OF THE DIVORCE WITH 2446 01:04:50,687 --> 01:04:53,889 PROSPECT OF THE DIVORCE WITH RICK DABATE? 2447 01:04:53,891 --> 01:04:55,957 RICK DABATE? >> OF THAT, AND BECAUSE I DID 2448 01:04:55,959 --> 01:04:57,325 >> OF THAT, AND BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO BE THE CAUSE OF A 2449 01:04:57,327 --> 01:04:59,661 NOT WANT TO BE THE CAUSE OF A BREAKUP OF THEIR FAMILY. 2450 01:04:59,663 --> 01:05:01,830 BREAKUP OF THEIR FAMILY. IT WAS ENOUGH THAT I WAS 2451 01:05:01,832 --> 01:05:02,297 IT WAS ENOUGH THAT I WAS PREGNANT 2452 01:05:02,299 --> 01:05:03,899 PREGNANT I DID NOT WANT TO BREAK UP THEIR 2453 01:05:03,901 --> 01:05:06,534 I DID NOT WANT TO BREAK UP THEIR FAMILY 2454 01:05:06,536 --> 01:05:09,137 FAMILY >> Reporter: BUT SARA CLEARLY 2455 01:05:09,139 --> 01:05:10,238 >> Reporter: BUT SARA CLEARLY WANTED TO BE WITH HIM. 2456 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,040 WANTED TO BE WITH HIM. SHE TOLD THE JURY HER 2457 01:05:12,042 --> 01:05:12,874 SHE TOLD THE JURY HER RELATIONSHIP WITH RICK CONTINUED 2458 01:05:12,876 --> 01:05:13,909 RELATIONSHIP WITH RICK CONTINUED EVEN AFTER HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED 2459 01:05:13,911 --> 01:05:15,510 EVEN AFTER HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH CONNIE'S 2460 01:05:15,512 --> 01:05:16,511 AND CHARGED WITH CONNIE'S MURDER 2461 01:05:16,513 --> 01:05:18,346 MURDER >> WELL, I THINK RICK WAS 2462 01:05:18,348 --> 01:05:21,850 >> WELL, I THINK RICK WAS ARRESTED IN 2017, IN APRIL 2463 01:05:21,852 --> 01:05:22,918 ARRESTED IN 2017, IN APRIL SO IT WAS, AGAIN, PROBABLY 2464 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:23,985 SO IT WAS, AGAIN, PROBABLY MONTHS AFTER THAT THAT -- YES, 2465 01:05:23,987 --> 01:05:27,122 MONTHS AFTER THAT THAT -- YES, YEP, WE STARTED SEEING EACH 2466 01:05:27,124 --> 01:05:28,189 YEP, WE STARTED SEEING EACH OTHER AGAIN. 2467 01:05:28,191 --> 01:05:29,724 OTHER AGAIN. >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY SAYS 2468 01:05:29,726 --> 01:05:31,826 >> Reporter: RICK'S FAMILY SAYS THE IDEA THAT CONNIE WAS KILLED 2469 01:05:31,828 --> 01:05:33,461 THE IDEA THAT CONNIE WAS KILLED OVER AN AFFAIR WAS NONSENSE. 2470 01:05:33,463 --> 01:05:34,996 OVER AN AFFAIR WAS NONSENSE. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT AS A 2471 01:05:34,998 --> 01:05:36,064 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT AS A POSSIBLE MOTIVE? 2472 01:05:36,066 --> 01:05:37,132 POSSIBLE MOTIVE? THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WANTED CONNIE 2473 01:05:37,134 --> 01:05:39,200 THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WANTED CONNIE OUT OF THE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, BE 2474 01:05:39,202 --> 01:05:39,801 OUT OF THE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, BE WITH - 2475 01:05:39,803 --> 01:05:40,835 WITH - >> NO. 2476 01:05:40,837 --> 01:05:42,437 >> NO. NOT THAT 2477 01:05:42,439 --> 01:05:43,505 NOT THAT NO 2478 01:05:43,507 --> 01:05:44,539 NO >> NO. 2479 01:05:44,541 --> 01:05:45,640 >> NO. >> HE WOULD DEAL WITH IT 2480 01:05:45,642 --> 01:05:47,208 >> HE WOULD DEAL WITH IT HE WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH IT, AND 2481 01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:49,244 HE WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH IT, AND CONNIE WOULD HAVE TOO. 2482 01:05:49,246 --> 01:05:49,878 CONNIE WOULD HAVE TOO. THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEHOW MANAGED. 2483 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,346 THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEHOW MANAGED. >> Reporter: AND IT WASN'T SUCH 2484 01:05:51,348 --> 01:05:52,480 >> Reporter: AND IT WASN'T SUCH A BIG SECRET AFTER ALL 2485 01:05:52,482 --> 01:05:58,286 A BIG SECRET AFTER ALL HE HAD, IN FACT, CONFIDED IN HIS 2486 01:05:58,288 --> 01:06:00,355 HE HAD, IN FACT, CONFIDED IN HIS COUSIN LAURIE ALL ABOUT IT 2487 01:06:00,357 --> 01:06:01,456 COUSIN LAURIE ALL ABOUT IT >> I THINK AT THE TIME HIS 2488 01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:02,524 >> I THINK AT THE TIME HIS INTENTION WAS TO TELL CONNIE AND 2489 01:06:02,526 --> 01:06:05,126 INTENTION WAS TO TELL CONNIE AND TO TRY TO KEEP HIS FAMILY 2490 01:06:05,128 --> 01:06:08,863 TO TRY TO KEEP HIS FAMILY TOGETHER 2491 01:06:08,865 --> 01:06:10,432 TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS 2492 01:06:10,434 --> 01:06:13,068 AND, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE DIFFICULT, AND I WAS 2493 01:06:13,070 --> 01:06:15,136 GONNA BE DIFFICULT, AND I WAS GONNA BE THERE TO DO WHATEVER I 2494 01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:17,238 GONNA BE THERE TO DO WHATEVER I COULD TO HELP. 2495 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,976 COULD TO HELP. >> Reporter: SARA GANZER'S 2496 01:06:20,978 --> 01:06:22,043 >> Reporter: SARA GANZER'S TESTIMONY HAD NOT GONE AS 2497 01:06:22,045 --> 01:06:23,411 TESTIMONY HAD NOT GONE AS SMOOTHLY AS THE PROSECUTION HAD 2498 01:06:23,413 --> 01:06:24,646 SMOOTHLY AS THE PROSECUTION HAD HOPED. 2499 01:06:24,648 --> 01:06:25,714 HOPED. BUT THERE WAS MORE FOR THE JURY 2500 01:06:25,716 --> 01:06:27,315 BUT THERE WAS MORE FOR THE JURY TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING WHAT 2501 01:06:27,317 --> 01:06:29,351 TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING WHAT COULD AMOUNT TO THE PROVERBIAL 2502 01:06:29,353 --> 01:06:31,019 COULD AMOUNT TO THE PROVERBIAL SMOKING GUN. 2503 01:06:31,021 --> 01:06:32,587 SMOKING GUN. >>> COMING UP -- 2504 01:06:32,589 --> 01:06:33,054 >>> COMING UP -- THE STORY TOLD BY DATA 2505 01:06:33,056 --> 01:06:34,622 THE STORY TOLD BY DATA >> Reporter: IT WAS THE SILENT 2506 01:06:34,624 --> 01:06:35,790 >> Reporter: IT WAS THE SILENT WITNESS. 2507 01:06:35,792 --> 01:06:37,092 WITNESS. >> CORRECT 2508 01:06:37,094 --> 01:06:37,892 >> CORRECT MULTIPLE SILENT WITNESSES. 2509 01:06:37,894 --> 01:06:38,426 MULTIPLE SILENT WITNESSES. DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS -- IS 2510 01:06:38,428 --> 01:06:54,009 DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS -- IS POWERFUL 2511 01:06:54,011 --> 01:06:55,577 POWERFUL >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION HAD 2512 01:06:55,579 --> 01:06:57,679 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION HAD PUT A RELUCTANT WITNESS ON THE 2513 01:06:57,681 --> 01:06:58,780 PUT A RELUCTANT WITNESS ON THE STAND WHO PROVIDED THE JURY WITH 2514 01:06:58,782 --> 01:07:00,849 STAND WHO PROVIDED THE JURY WITH A WHY IN THE CASE AGAINST 2515 01:07:00,851 --> 01:07:01,383 A WHY IN THE CASE AGAINST RICK DABATE. 2516 01:07:01,385 --> 01:07:03,451 RICK DABATE. BUT NOW THEY HAD PERHAPS AN EVEN 2517 01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:04,519 BUT NOW THEY HAD PERHAPS AN EVEN BETTER WITNESS 2518 01:07:04,521 --> 01:07:07,188 BETTER WITNESS A WITNESS WITH NO EMOTIONAL TIES 2519 01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:07,889 A WITNESS WITH NO EMOTIONAL TIES TO THE DEFENDANT 2520 01:07:07,891 --> 01:07:09,290 TO THE DEFENDANT IT WAS THE SILENT WITNESS. 2521 01:07:09,292 --> 01:07:11,960 IT WAS THE SILENT WITNESS. >> CORRECT 2522 01:07:11,962 --> 01:07:13,495 >> CORRECT MULTIPLE SILENT WITNESSES. 2523 01:07:13,497 --> 01:07:15,930 MULTIPLE SILENT WITNESSES. DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS -- IS 2524 01:07:15,932 --> 01:07:17,232 DIGITAL EVIDENCE IS -- IS POWERFUL 2525 01:07:17,234 --> 01:07:18,833 POWERFUL >> Reporter: THE STATE HAD WHAT 2526 01:07:18,835 --> 01:07:19,901 >> Reporter: THE STATE HAD WHAT IT SAID WAS COLD, HARD DATA. 2527 01:07:19,903 --> 01:07:21,503 IT SAID WAS COLD, HARD DATA. DETECTIVE SERGEANT 2528 01:07:21,505 --> 01:07:23,605 DETECTIVE SERGEANT BILL UTERMARCK TOLD THE JURY, 2529 01:07:23,607 --> 01:07:25,607 BILL UTERMARCK TOLD THE JURY, AND US, HOW THE DABATES' 2530 01:07:25,609 --> 01:07:26,741 AND US, HOW THE DABATES' ELECTRONIC DEVICES HELD A 2531 01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:28,343 ELECTRONIC DEVICES HELD A TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION. 2532 01:07:28,345 --> 01:07:29,944 TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION. >> AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 2533 01:07:29,946 --> 01:07:32,013 >> AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRONICS, YOU'RE TALKING 2534 01:07:32,015 --> 01:07:33,114 ELECTRONICS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS, THE 2535 01:07:33,116 --> 01:07:34,249 ABOUT FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS, THE ALARM, REPORTING 2536 01:07:34,251 --> 01:07:35,250 ALARM, REPORTING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CELL PHONE 2537 01:07:35,252 --> 01:07:36,284 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CELL PHONE DOWNLOADS. 2538 01:07:36,286 --> 01:07:37,352 DOWNLOADS. >> CAMERAS, SURVEILLING CAMERAS. 2539 01:07:37,354 --> 01:07:38,420 >> CAMERAS, SURVEILLING CAMERAS. >> CAMERAS, THE FITBIT, 2540 01:07:38,422 --> 01:07:39,454 >> CAMERAS, THE FITBIT, SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS 2541 01:07:39,456 --> 01:07:40,722 SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK THAT 2542 01:07:40,724 --> 01:07:42,190 A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK THAT CAME INTO PLAY 2543 01:07:42,192 --> 01:07:42,824 CAME INTO PLAY >> Reporter: IT ALL ADDED UP TO 2544 01:07:42,826 --> 01:07:45,527 >> Reporter: IT ALL ADDED UP TO A TIMELINE FOR BOTH CONNIE AND 2545 01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:47,862 A TIMELINE FOR BOTH CONNIE AND RICK -- WHAT THEY DID, WHERE 2546 01:07:47,864 --> 01:07:48,930 RICK -- WHAT THEY DID, WHERE THEY WENT, WHO THEY TALKED TO. 2547 01:07:48,932 --> 01:07:50,498 THEY WENT, WHO THEY TALKED TO. WHAT ARE YOU LEARNING ABOUT 2548 01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:52,033 WHAT ARE YOU LEARNING ABOUT CONNIE'S LAST DAY? 2549 01:07:52,035 --> 01:07:53,101 CONNIE'S LAST DAY? WHAT HAD SHE DONE THAT MORNING 2550 01:07:53,103 --> 01:07:54,135 WHAT HAD SHE DONE THAT MORNING >> AFTER SHE WAKES UP, I BELIEVE 2551 01:07:54,137 --> 01:07:55,270 >> AFTER SHE WAKES UP, I BELIEVE THE FIRST THING SHE DOES IS GO 2552 01:07:55,272 --> 01:07:57,338 THE FIRST THING SHE DOES IS GO ON HER PHONE 2553 01:07:57,340 --> 01:07:58,907 ON HER PHONE SHE MESSAGES SOME FRIENDS. 2554 01:07:58,909 --> 01:08:00,008 SHE MESSAGES SOME FRIENDS. AND THEN SHE STARTS HER DAY. 2555 01:08:00,010 --> 01:08:02,644 AND THEN SHE STARTS HER DAY. WE HAVE HER PUTTING ON HER 2556 01:08:02,646 --> 01:08:04,779 WE HAVE HER PUTTING ON HER FITBIT SHORTLY AFTER SHE GOT UP. 2557 01:08:04,781 --> 01:08:06,347 FITBIT SHORTLY AFTER SHE GOT UP. >> Reporter: CONNIE WORE THE 2558 01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:07,382 >> Reporter: CONNIE WORE THE FITBIT DEVICE ON HER WAISTBAND 2559 01:08:07,384 --> 01:08:10,018 FITBIT DEVICE ON HER WAISTBAND IT RECORDED WHEN SHE WAS MOVING, 2560 01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:11,086 IT RECORDED WHEN SHE WAS MOVING, WHEN SHE WAS STATIONARY, AND HER 2561 01:08:11,088 --> 01:08:12,520 WHEN SHE WAS STATIONARY, AND HER STEPS TAKEN THAT DAY 2562 01:08:12,522 --> 01:08:13,121 STEPS TAKEN THAT DAY >> SHE'S STARTING THE DAY WITH 2563 01:08:13,123 --> 01:08:14,456 >> SHE'S STARTING THE DAY WITH THE KIDS, GETTING THE KIDS READY 2564 01:08:14,458 --> 01:08:16,357 THE KIDS, GETTING THE KIDS READY FOR SCHOOL 2565 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:18,493 FOR SCHOOL SHE HAS A COUPLE OF HER TEXT 2566 01:08:18,495 --> 01:08:20,595 SHE HAS A COUPLE OF HER TEXT MESSAGES DURING THE MORNING. 2567 01:08:20,597 --> 01:08:22,130 MESSAGES DURING THE MORNING. AND THEN WE CAN SEE HER LEAVING. 2568 01:08:22,132 --> 01:08:25,333 AND THEN WE CAN SEE HER LEAVING. >> GETTING IN THE CAR, DRIVING 2569 01:08:25,335 --> 01:08:26,367 >> GETTING IN THE CAR, DRIVING TO THE "Y. 2570 01:08:26,369 --> 01:08:27,435 TO THE "Y. >> WE CAN SEE WHEN SHE HOPS IN 2571 01:08:27,437 --> 01:08:28,470 >> WE CAN SEE WHEN SHE HOPS IN HER CAR BECAUSE THERE'S NO 2572 01:08:28,472 --> 01:08:29,504 HER CAR BECAUSE THERE'S NO MOVEMENT ON THE FITBIT 2573 01:08:29,506 --> 01:08:31,139 MOVEMENT ON THE FITBIT SHE'S NOT WALKING ANYMORE. 2574 01:08:31,141 --> 01:08:32,173 SHE'S NOT WALKING ANYMORE. >> Reporter: CONNIE ARRIVED AT 2575 01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,309 >> Reporter: CONNIE ARRIVED AT THE YMCA, AS SEEN IN THESE 2576 01:08:34,311 --> 01:08:35,510 THE YMCA, AS SEEN IN THESE SURVEILLANCE IMAGES, BUT DIDN'T 2577 01:08:35,512 --> 01:08:37,212 SURVEILLANCE IMAGES, BUT DIDN'T STAY LONG BECAUSE HER EXERCISE 2578 01:08:37,214 --> 01:08:38,012 STAY LONG BECAUSE HER EXERCISE CLASS HAD BEEN CANCELLED 2579 01:08:38,014 --> 01:08:40,715 CLASS HAD BEEN CANCELLED SHE DROVE STRAIGHT HOME. 2580 01:08:40,717 --> 01:08:41,282 SHE DROVE STRAIGHT HOME. AND THE FITBIT PICKS HER UP, 2581 01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:43,751 AND THE FITBIT PICKS HER UP, GETTING HOME, GETTING OUT OF THE 2582 01:08:43,753 --> 01:08:44,319 GETTING HOME, GETTING OUT OF THE CAR? 2583 01:08:44,321 --> 01:08:45,386 CAR? >> SO SHE STARTS GETTING STEPS 2584 01:08:45,388 --> 01:08:46,955 >> SO SHE STARTS GETTING STEPS AGAIN ON THE FITBIT. 2585 01:08:46,957 --> 01:08:48,556 AGAIN ON THE FITBIT. SO THAT'S AROUND 9:18, 9:20. 2586 01:08:48,558 --> 01:08:50,692 SO THAT'S AROUND 9:18, 9:20. SO THEN SHE'S MOVING 2587 01:08:50,694 --> 01:08:51,292 SO THEN SHE'S MOVING SPORADICALLY INSIDE THE HOUSE. 2588 01:08:51,294 --> 01:08:52,627 SPORADICALLY INSIDE THE HOUSE. WE CORRESPOND THAT WITH SOME OF 2589 01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:53,328 WE CORRESPOND THAT WITH SOME OF THE FACEBOOK THINGS THAT SHE'S 2590 01:08:53,330 --> 01:08:54,395 THE FACEBOOK THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING AS WELL. 2591 01:08:54,397 --> 01:08:55,463 DOING AS WELL. >> Reporter: THIS IS WHERE THE 2592 01:08:55,465 --> 01:08:58,066 >> Reporter: THIS IS WHERE THE FITBIT BECOMES REALLY CRITICAL 2593 01:08:58,068 --> 01:09:02,303 FITBIT BECOMES REALLY CRITICAL BECAUSE RICK'S STORY WAS THAT 2594 01:09:02,305 --> 01:09:03,771 BECAUSE RICK'S STORY WAS THAT CONNIE CAME HOME AND HE WAS 2595 01:09:03,773 --> 01:09:06,007 CONNIE CAME HOME AND HE WAS YELLING AT HER TO ESCAPE OR TO 2596 01:09:06,009 --> 01:09:07,041 YELLING AT HER TO ESCAPE OR TO FLEE THIS INTRUDER 2597 01:09:07,043 --> 01:09:10,211 FLEE THIS INTRUDER >> AND RICK'S STORY IS THAT THIS 2598 01:09:10,213 --> 01:09:12,313 >> AND RICK'S STORY IS THAT THIS OCCURRED AT 9:00 2599 01:09:12,315 --> 01:09:13,348 OCCURRED AT 9:00 SO NOW WE HAVE HER STEPS ON HER 2600 01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:14,716 SO NOW WE HAVE HER STEPS ON HER FITBIT UP TO 10:05 2601 01:09:14,718 --> 01:09:15,450 FITBIT UP TO 10:05 SO IT'S AN HOUR AND FIVE MINUTES 2602 01:09:15,452 --> 01:09:16,518 SO IT'S AN HOUR AND FIVE MINUTES THAT - 2603 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,585 THAT - >> Reporter: SO YOU'VE GOT A 2604 01:09:17,587 --> 01:09:19,154 >> Reporter: SO YOU'VE GOT A TIME DISCREPANCY 2605 01:09:19,156 --> 01:09:20,221 TIME DISCREPANCY >> CORRECT 2606 01:09:20,223 --> 01:09:21,222 >> CORRECT >> Reporter: CONNIE'S ELECTRONIC 2607 01:09:21,224 --> 01:09:22,090 >> Reporter: CONNIE'S ELECTRONIC FOOTPRINT WAS TELLING A 2608 01:09:22,092 --> 01:09:22,790 FOOTPRINT WAS TELLING A DIFFERENT STORY THAN WHAT RICK 2609 01:09:22,792 --> 01:09:23,925 DIFFERENT STORY THAN WHAT RICK WAS TELLING YOU. 2610 01:09:23,927 --> 01:09:25,660 WAS TELLING YOU. >> NOT JUST -- NOT JUST 2611 01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:26,561 >> NOT JUST -- NOT JUST CONNIE'S 2612 01:09:26,563 --> 01:09:27,595 CONNIE'S >> IT DID RICK'S AS WELL 2613 01:09:27,597 --> 01:09:28,630 >> IT DID RICK'S AS WELL IT PROVIDED US ALL KIND OF 2614 01:09:28,632 --> 01:09:30,064 IT PROVIDED US ALL KIND OF INFORMATION, SHOWING US THAT HE 2615 01:09:30,066 --> 01:09:30,765 INFORMATION, SHOWING US THAT HE REALLY NEVER LEFT THE PROPERTY 2616 01:09:30,767 --> 01:09:32,367 REALLY NEVER LEFT THE PROPERTY HE'S VERY CLOSE TO THE HOUSE, IF 2617 01:09:32,369 --> 01:09:33,968 HE'S VERY CLOSE TO THE HOUSE, IF NOT IN THE HOUSE 2618 01:09:33,970 --> 01:09:35,537 NOT IN THE HOUSE >> Reporter: SO THE STORY ABOUT 2619 01:09:35,539 --> 01:09:37,138 >> Reporter: SO THE STORY ABOUT HIM DRIVING AWAY, REALIZING HE 2620 01:09:37,140 --> 01:09:38,106 HIM DRIVING AWAY, REALIZING HE FORGOT HIS LAPTOP AND GOING 2621 01:09:38,108 --> 01:09:39,174 FORGOT HIS LAPTOP AND GOING BACK -- THAT YOU WERE FINDING 2622 01:09:39,176 --> 01:09:42,944 BACK -- THAT YOU WERE FINDING THAT THAT WAS NOT -- 2623 01:09:42,946 --> 01:09:44,679 THAT THAT WAS NOT -- >> THAT WAS NOT THE CASE 2624 01:09:44,681 --> 01:09:45,580 >> THAT WAS NOT THE CASE >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE 2625 01:09:45,582 --> 01:09:47,148 >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE ELECTRONIC DATA, RICK DABATE 2626 01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:49,784 ELECTRONIC DATA, RICK DABATE NEVER LEFT THE PROPERTY. 2627 01:09:49,786 --> 01:09:51,386 NEVER LEFT THE PROPERTY. INSTEAD, ACCORDING TO THE 2628 01:09:51,388 --> 01:09:53,221 INSTEAD, ACCORDING TO THE PROSECUTION, RICK STAYED HOME 2629 01:09:53,223 --> 01:09:54,589 PROSECUTION, RICK STAYED HOME AND WAITED FOR CONNIE TO RETURN, 2630 01:09:54,591 --> 01:09:56,691 AND WAITED FOR CONNIE TO RETURN, THEN SPENT NEARLY AN HOUR 2631 01:09:56,693 --> 01:09:57,725 THEN SPENT NEARLY AN HOUR BUILDING UP THE NERVE TO LURE 2632 01:09:57,727 --> 01:09:58,793 BUILDING UP THE NERVE TO LURE HER DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT WHERE 2633 01:09:58,795 --> 01:10:04,566 HER DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT WHERE HE SHOT HER DEAD AND STAGED HIS 2634 01:10:04,568 --> 01:10:06,134 HE SHOT HER DEAD AND STAGED HIS OWN ATTACK 2635 01:10:06,136 --> 01:10:06,701 OWN ATTACK BUT THAT THEORY WAS FULL OF 2636 01:10:06,703 --> 01:10:08,770 BUT THAT THEORY WAS FULL OF HOLES, SAID DEFENSE ATTORNEY 2637 01:10:08,772 --> 01:10:09,804 HOLES, SAID DEFENSE ATTORNEY TRENT LALIMA 2638 01:10:09,806 --> 01:10:11,406 TRENT LALIMA >> AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO 2639 01:10:11,408 --> 01:10:12,440 >> AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IT'S THE STATE'S JOB TO 2640 01:10:12,442 --> 01:10:14,709 REMEMBER IT'S THE STATE'S JOB TO PROVE, BEYOND A REASONABLE 2641 01:10:14,711 --> 01:10:15,643 PROVE, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THEIR CASE. 2642 01:10:15,645 --> 01:10:17,212 DOUBT, THEIR CASE. >> Reporter: AND REASONABLE 2643 01:10:17,214 --> 01:10:18,279 >> Reporter: AND REASONABLE DOUBT WAS EVERYWHERE, HE SAID. 2644 01:10:18,281 --> 01:10:20,915 DOUBT WAS EVERYWHERE, HE SAID. STARTING WITH THE FACT THAT RICK 2645 01:10:20,917 --> 01:10:21,849 STARTING WITH THE FACT THAT RICK WAS NOT A VIOLENT MAN. 2646 01:10:21,851 --> 01:10:22,483 WAS NOT A VIOLENT MAN. >> RICK DABATE HAS NEVER HAD AN 2647 01:10:22,485 --> 01:10:24,018 >> RICK DABATE HAS NEVER HAD AN ALLEGATION OF VIOLENCE IN HIS 2648 01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:25,153 ALLEGATION OF VIOLENCE IN HIS HISTORY. 2649 01:10:25,155 --> 01:10:26,688 HISTORY. THERE'S NO ALLEGATION OF ANY 2650 01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:27,755 THERE'S NO ALLEGATION OF ANY VIOLENCE AGAINST CONNIE DABATE 2651 01:10:27,757 --> 01:10:28,790 VIOLENCE AGAINST CONNIE DABATE OR THAT HE HAS EVER ATTACKED 2652 01:10:28,792 --> 01:10:29,891 OR THAT HE HAS EVER ATTACKED ANYONE ELSE. 2653 01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:31,993 ANYONE ELSE. AND YOU DON'T GO FROM THAT TO 2654 01:10:31,995 --> 01:10:33,528 AND YOU DON'T GO FROM THAT TO WHAT THE STATE ALLEGES THAT 2655 01:10:33,530 --> 01:10:35,163 WHAT THE STATE ALLEGES THAT MORNING. 2656 01:10:35,165 --> 01:10:36,197 MORNING. >> Reporter: AND HE SAID THE 2657 01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,833 >> Reporter: AND HE SAID THE PROSECUTION'S EVIDENCE TO THE 2658 01:10:38,835 --> 01:10:41,669 PROSECUTION'S EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY COULD NOT BE TRUSTED. 2659 01:10:41,671 --> 01:10:42,303 CONTRARY COULD NOT BE TRUSTED. >> THESE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE 2660 01:10:42,305 --> 01:10:43,071 >> THESE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE NOT PREPARED WITH THE IDEA THAT 2661 01:10:43,073 --> 01:10:44,672 NOT PREPARED WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE USED IN A 2662 01:10:44,674 --> 01:10:45,707 THEY'RE GONNA BE USED IN A MURDER TRIAL 2663 01:10:45,709 --> 01:10:46,741 MURDER TRIAL FITBIT DESIGNED THEIR DEVICE TO 2664 01:10:46,743 --> 01:10:47,842 FITBIT DESIGNED THEIR DEVICE TO MAKE MONEY 2665 01:10:47,844 --> 01:10:49,410 MAKE MONEY IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A 2666 01:10:49,412 --> 01:10:50,878 IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE, SCIENTIFIC, 2667 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,580 ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE, SCIENTIFIC, OR LEGAL DEVICE. 2668 01:10:52,582 --> 01:10:53,648 OR LEGAL DEVICE. AND, IN FACT, THE PEOPLE THAT 2669 01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:54,649 AND, IN FACT, THE PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED AT TRIAL COULDN'T EVEN 2670 01:10:54,651 --> 01:10:56,251 TESTIFIED AT TRIAL COULDN'T EVEN TELL US HOW THE FITBIT REACHED 2671 01:10:56,253 --> 01:10:57,318 TELL US HOW THE FITBIT REACHED THE CONCLUSIONS IT DID 2672 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,386 THE CONCLUSIONS IT DID THEY COULD ONLY TELL US THE 2673 01:10:58,388 --> 01:10:59,454 THEY COULD ONLY TELL US THE NUMBERS IT SPIT OUT, NOT HOW IT 2674 01:10:59,456 --> 01:11:01,022 NUMBERS IT SPIT OUT, NOT HOW IT GOT THE NUMBERS. 2675 01:11:01,024 --> 01:11:02,624 GOT THE NUMBERS. >> Reporter: BUT YOU'RE STILL 2676 01:11:02,626 --> 01:11:04,692 >> Reporter: BUT YOU'RE STILL HAVING TO SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE 2677 01:11:04,694 --> 01:11:06,261 HAVING TO SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE DEVICE WAS FAULTY OR INACCURATE. 2678 01:11:06,263 --> 01:11:07,328 DEVICE WAS FAULTY OR INACCURATE. >> I THINK IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE 2679 01:11:07,330 --> 01:11:09,397 >> I THINK IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT ALL THESE ELECTRONIC 2680 01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:11,065 THAT ALL THESE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE NOT PERFECT. 2681 01:11:11,067 --> 01:11:12,133 DEVICES ARE NOT PERFECT. >> Reporter: BUT THEY ALL WERE 2682 01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:12,634 >> Reporter: BUT THEY ALL WERE WRONG? 2683 01:11:12,636 --> 01:11:14,269 WRONG? >> THEY COULD ALL HAVE ERRORS, 2684 01:11:14,271 --> 01:11:15,270 >> THEY COULD ALL HAVE ERRORS, ABSOLUTELY 2685 01:11:15,272 --> 01:11:16,504 ABSOLUTELY >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE ARGUED 2686 01:11:16,506 --> 01:11:17,872 >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE ARGUED THERE WAS ONE THING THE JURY 2687 01:11:17,874 --> 01:11:19,207 THERE WAS ONE THING THE JURY COULD RELY ON. 2688 01:11:19,209 --> 01:11:19,674 COULD RELY ON. >> THE OLD-FASHIONED, 2689 01:11:19,676 --> 01:11:20,575 >> THE OLD-FASHIONED, TRIED-AND-TRUE FORENSIC 2690 01:11:20,577 --> 01:11:23,211 TRIED-AND-TRUE FORENSIC EVIDENCE, WHICH WAS IN OUR 2691 01:11:23,213 --> 01:11:25,313 EVIDENCE, WHICH WAS IN OUR FAVOR. 2692 01:11:25,315 --> 01:11:26,881 FAVOR. >> Reporter: DNA AT THE CRIME 2693 01:11:26,883 --> 01:11:27,949 >> Reporter: DNA AT THE CRIME SCENE. 2694 01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:29,517 SCENE. INVESTIGATORS HAD FOUND PLENTY 2695 01:11:29,519 --> 01:11:31,085 INVESTIGATORS HAD FOUND PLENTY OF IT. 2696 01:11:31,087 --> 01:11:32,854 OF IT. AND THE DEFENSE SAID IT 2697 01:11:32,856 --> 01:11:33,755 AND THE DEFENSE SAID IT CONFIRMED RICK DABATE'S STORY 2698 01:11:33,757 --> 01:11:35,290 CONFIRMED RICK DABATE'S STORY ABOUT AN INTRUDER. 2699 01:11:35,292 --> 01:11:37,425 ABOUT AN INTRUDER. >> IN THIS CASE, WE HAD 2700 01:11:37,427 --> 01:11:41,629 >> IN THIS CASE, WE HAD UNIDENTIFIED DNA IN SIX 2701 01:11:41,631 --> 01:11:43,231 UNIDENTIFIED DNA IN SIX DIFFERENT KEY PLACES 2702 01:11:43,233 --> 01:11:44,899 DIFFERENT KEY PLACES STARTING WITH THE MASTER BEDROOM 2703 01:11:44,901 --> 01:11:46,367 STARTING WITH THE MASTER BEDROOM CLOSET, GOING DOWN TO THE SAFE 2704 01:11:46,369 --> 01:11:47,468 CLOSET, GOING DOWN TO THE SAFE BOX IN THE BASEMENT WHERE THE 2705 01:11:47,470 --> 01:11:49,037 BOX IN THE BASEMENT WHERE THE GUN WAS KEPT, GOING TO THE GUN 2706 01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:50,104 GUN WAS KEPT, GOING TO THE GUN ITSELF, INCLUDING THE INSIDE OF 2707 01:11:50,106 --> 01:11:51,639 ITSELF, INCLUDING THE INSIDE OF RICK DABATE'S SHIRT AND 2708 01:11:51,641 --> 01:11:52,707 RICK DABATE'S SHIRT AND INCLUDING THE DOOR EXITING THE 2709 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:54,876 INCLUDING THE DOOR EXITING THE BASEMENT OUT THE HATCHWAY. 2710 01:11:54,878 --> 01:11:56,411 BASEMENT OUT THE HATCHWAY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, 2711 01:11:56,413 --> 01:11:59,080 AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, RICK DABATE, WHEN HE TOLD HIS 2712 01:11:59,082 --> 01:12:00,114 RICK DABATE, WHEN HE TOLD HIS STORY TO THE POLICE THAT FIRST 2713 01:12:00,116 --> 01:12:01,683 STORY TO THE POLICE THAT FIRST DAY, BEFORE HE COULD HAVE EVER 2714 01:12:01,685 --> 01:12:02,750 DAY, BEFORE HE COULD HAVE EVER KNOWN WHAT THE DNA RESULTS WERE, 2715 01:12:02,752 --> 01:12:03,751 KNOWN WHAT THE DNA RESULTS WERE, HE WAS CITING THOSE EXACT 2716 01:12:03,753 --> 01:12:04,819 HE WAS CITING THOSE EXACT PLACES, SAYING, "THAT'S WHERE 2717 01:12:04,821 --> 01:12:05,853 PLACES, SAYING, "THAT'S WHERE THE INTRUDER WAS 2718 01:12:05,855 --> 01:12:07,522 THE INTRUDER WAS THAT'S WHAT THE INTRUDER TOUCHED 2719 01:12:07,524 --> 01:12:09,090 THAT'S WHAT THE INTRUDER TOUCHED IN THE HOUSE." 2720 01:12:09,092 --> 01:12:10,124 IN THE HOUSE." >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE ALSO 2721 01:12:10,126 --> 01:12:11,726 >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE JURY 2722 01:12:11,728 --> 01:12:12,760 WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE JURY THAT DESPITE WHAT THE 2723 01:12:12,762 --> 01:12:14,362 THAT DESPITE WHAT THE PROSECUTION WANTED THEM TO 2724 01:12:14,364 --> 01:12:15,997 PROSECUTION WANTED THEM TO BELIEVE, RICK DABATE NEVER 2725 01:12:15,999 --> 01:12:16,998 BELIEVE, RICK DABATE NEVER WAVERED IN HIS STORY ABOUT WHAT 2726 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,033 WAVERED IN HIS STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT MORNING ON BIRCH 2727 01:12:19,035 --> 01:12:21,235 HAPPENED THAT MORNING ON BIRCH VIEW DRIVE 2728 01:12:21,237 --> 01:12:22,303 VIEW DRIVE >> HIS WIFE IS SHOT FEET AWAY 2729 01:12:22,305 --> 01:12:23,871 >> HIS WIFE IS SHOT FEET AWAY FROM HIM AFTER HE'S ATTACKED BY 2730 01:12:23,873 --> 01:12:25,440 FROM HIM AFTER HE'S ATTACKED BY AN INTRUDER. 2731 01:12:25,442 --> 01:12:27,041 AN INTRUDER. THAT WOULD BE THE MOST TRAUMATIC 2732 01:12:27,043 --> 01:12:28,142 THAT WOULD BE THE MOST TRAUMATIC DAY OF ANYBODY'S LIFE, THE MOST 2733 01:12:28,144 --> 01:12:31,145 DAY OF ANYBODY'S LIFE, THE MOST TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE OF 2734 01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:32,847 TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE OF ANYBODY'S LIFE 2735 01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:33,881 ANYBODY'S LIFE AND ARE WE GOING TO EXPECT THAT 2736 01:12:33,883 --> 01:12:36,017 AND ARE WE GOING TO EXPECT THAT HE'S GONNA HAVE THE EXACT TIME 2737 01:12:36,019 --> 01:12:38,453 HE'S GONNA HAVE THE EXACT TIME OF HOW LONG EVERYTHING HAPPENED, 2738 01:12:38,455 --> 01:12:39,153 OF HOW LONG EVERYTHING HAPPENED, REMEMBER EVERY SMALL DETAIL OF 2739 01:12:39,155 --> 01:12:43,958 REMEMBER EVERY SMALL DETAIL OF WHAT HE DID ON HIS IPAD OR HIS 2740 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,594 WHAT HE DID ON HIS IPAD OR HIS TABLET THAT MORNING? 2741 01:12:46,596 --> 01:12:48,096 TABLET THAT MORNING? THE BIG DETAILS, THAT HE WAS 2742 01:12:48,098 --> 01:12:49,163 THE BIG DETAILS, THAT HE WAS HOME, AN INTRUDER WAS IN THE 2743 01:12:49,165 --> 01:12:50,798 HOME, AN INTRUDER WAS IN THE HOME, ATTACKED HIM, AND THEY RAN 2744 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,833 HOME, ATTACKED HIM, AND THEY RAN DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, AND THAT 2745 01:12:51,835 --> 01:12:52,867 DOWN TO THE BASEMENT, AND THAT MAN SHOT HIS WIFE THOSE DETAILS 2746 01:12:52,869 --> 01:12:54,268 MAN SHOT HIS WIFE THOSE DETAILS WERE ALWAYS CONSISTENT 2747 01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:55,036 WERE ALWAYS CONSISTENT >> Reporter: BUT THE JURORS 2748 01:12:55,038 --> 01:12:56,070 >> Reporter: BUT THE JURORS WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD 2749 01:12:56,072 --> 01:12:57,138 WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT 2750 01:12:57,140 --> 01:12:58,139 FOR IT THEY WOULD HEAR IT STRAIGHT FROM 2751 01:12:58,141 --> 01:12:59,207 THEY WOULD HEAR IT STRAIGHT FROM RICK DABATE HIMSELF. 2752 01:12:59,209 --> 01:13:02,410 RICK DABATE HIMSELF. >> THE DEFENSE WILL CALL 2753 01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:04,011 >> THE DEFENSE WILL CALL RICHARD DABATE JR. 2754 01:13:04,013 --> 01:13:05,980 RICHARD DABATE JR. >>> COMING UP -- 2755 01:13:05,982 --> 01:13:07,682 >>> COMING UP -- RICK RECOUNTS STRUGGLING WITH 2756 01:13:07,684 --> 01:13:11,386 RICK RECOUNTS STRUGGLING WITH THE INTRUDER AND THE HORROR OF 2757 01:13:11,388 --> 01:13:12,954 THE INTRUDER AND THE HORROR OF HIS WIFE'S LAST MOMENTS. 2758 01:13:12,956 --> 01:13:15,056 HIS WIFE'S LAST MOMENTS. >> WHAT DID YOU SEE AND HEAR 2759 01:13:15,058 --> 01:13:19,827 >> WHAT DID YOU SEE AND HEAR >> HEARD A LOUD BANG 2760 01:13:19,829 --> 01:13:21,462 >> HEARD A LOUD BANG BELIEVE A FLASH. 2761 01:13:21,464 --> 01:13:22,029 BELIEVE A FLASH. AND I REMEMBER SEEING CONNIE 2762 01:13:22,031 --> 01:13:22,997 AND I REMEMBER SEEING CONNIE FALL MOTIONLESS TO THE GROUND. 2763 01:13:22,999 --> 01:13:24,065 FALL MOTIONLESS TO THE GROUND. >> WILL JURORS BELIEVE HIS 2764 01:13:24,067 --> 01:13:25,633 >> WILL JURORS BELIEVE HIS STORY? 2765 01:13:25,635 --> 01:13:26,701 STORY? >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE 2766 01:13:26,703 --> 01:13:27,769 >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY, HAVE YOU AGREED UPON A 2767 01:13:27,771 --> 01:13:46,087 JURY, HAVE YOU AGREED UPON A ..RDICT? 2768 01:13:46,089 --> 01:13:48,423 ..RDICT? WAITED MORE THAN SIX YEARS TO 2769 01:13:48,425 --> 01:13:50,491 WAITED MORE THAN SIX YEARS TO TELL HIS SIDE OF THE STORY 2770 01:13:50,493 --> 01:13:52,093 TELL HIS SIDE OF THE STORY NOW WAS HIS CHANCE AS HE TOOK 2771 01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:54,495 NOW WAS HIS CHANCE AS HE TOOK THE STAND IN HIS OWN DEFENSE 2772 01:13:54,497 --> 01:13:57,365 THE STAND IN HIS OWN DEFENSE >> HOW HAS CONNIE'S LOSS 2773 01:13:57,367 --> 01:13:58,966 >> HOW HAS CONNIE'S LOSS AFFECTED YOU 2774 01:13:58,968 --> 01:14:01,569 AFFECTED YOU >> UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO 2775 01:14:01,571 --> 01:14:05,139 >> UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THAT. 2776 01:14:05,141 --> 01:14:08,443 START WITH THAT. UH, IT AFFECTED ME IN THE MOST 2777 01:14:08,445 --> 01:14:10,578 UH, IT AFFECTED ME IN THE MOST AWFULLY NEGATIVE WAY POSSIBLE. 2778 01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:11,145 AWFULLY NEGATIVE WAY POSSIBLE. THE BOYS DON'T HAVE A MOTHER 2779 01:14:11,147 --> 01:14:12,613 THE BOYS DON'T HAVE A MOTHER LIFE IS IRREVERSIBLY CHANGED FOR 2780 01:14:12,615 --> 01:14:13,748 LIFE IS IRREVERSIBLY CHANGED FOR THE WORSE. 2781 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:15,349 THE WORSE. >> Reporter: RICK ACKNOWLEDGED 2782 01:14:15,351 --> 01:14:16,918 >> Reporter: RICK ACKNOWLEDGED TO THE JURY HE HAD CHEATED ON 2783 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,952 TO THE JURY HE HAD CHEATED ON CONNIE WITH SARA 2784 01:14:17,954 --> 01:14:18,986 CONNIE WITH SARA >> AND DID IT HAPPEN ON MULTIPLE 2785 01:14:18,988 --> 01:14:20,021 >> AND DID IT HAPPEN ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS? 2786 01:14:20,023 --> 01:14:21,055 OCCASIONS? >> YES, IT DID 2787 01:14:21,057 --> 01:14:22,690 >> YES, IT DID >> AT SOME POINT AROUND THIS 2788 01:14:22,692 --> 01:14:23,891 >> AT SOME POINT AROUND THIS TIME PERIOD, DID SARA TELL YOU 2789 01:14:23,893 --> 01:14:24,792 TIME PERIOD, DID SARA TELL YOU ANYTHING 2790 01:14:24,794 --> 01:14:25,827 ANYTHING >> YES, SHE DID. 2791 01:14:25,829 --> 01:14:27,862 >> YES, SHE DID. >> WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU 2792 01:14:27,864 --> 01:14:29,530 >> WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU >> SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS PREGNANT. 2793 01:14:29,532 --> 01:14:31,165 >> SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS PREGNANT. >> Reporter: BUT JUST AS 2794 01:14:31,167 --> 01:14:33,267 >> Reporter: BUT JUST AS SARA GANZER HAD TESTIFIED, RICK 2795 01:14:33,269 --> 01:14:34,602 SARA GANZER HAD TESTIFIED, RICK DENIED FEELING PRESSURED TO 2796 01:14:34,604 --> 01:14:35,369 DENIED FEELING PRESSURED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN HER AND CONNIE. 2797 01:14:35,371 --> 01:14:36,971 CHOOSE BETWEEN HER AND CONNIE. >> DID SHE TELL YOU TO DO 2798 01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:37,472 >> DID SHE TELL YOU TO DO ANYTHING 2799 01:14:37,474 --> 01:14:39,006 ANYTHING >> NO. 2800 01:14:39,008 --> 01:14:39,607 >> NO. >> DID SHE PRESENT OPTIONS TO 2801 01:14:39,609 --> 01:14:40,675 >> DID SHE PRESENT OPTIONS TO YOU? 2802 01:14:40,677 --> 01:14:42,777 YOU? >> YES, SHE DID. 2803 01:14:42,779 --> 01:14:44,946 >> YES, SHE DID. >> WHAT OPTIONS DID SHE PRESENT 2804 01:14:44,948 --> 01:14:45,913 >> WHAT OPTIONS DID SHE PRESENT TO YOU 2805 01:14:45,915 --> 01:14:46,948 TO YOU >> SHE SAID, "IF YOU STAY WITH 2806 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:48,616 >> SHE SAID, "IF YOU STAY WITH CONNIE" -- UH, THAT SHE WOULDN'T 2807 01:14:48,618 --> 01:14:49,650 CONNIE" -- UH, THAT SHE WOULDN'T TELL ANYONE WHO THE DAD WAS. 2808 01:14:49,652 --> 01:14:50,284 TELL ANYONE WHO THE DAD WAS. >> Reporter: AND THEN, RICK TOOK 2809 01:14:50,286 --> 01:14:52,153 >> Reporter: AND THEN, RICK TOOK THE JURY THROUGH THAT AWFUL 2810 01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:52,787 THE JURY THROUGH THAT AWFUL MORNING. 2811 01:14:52,789 --> 01:14:54,922 MORNING. >> WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU GOT 2812 01:14:54,924 --> 01:14:56,524 >> WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU GOT UPSTAIRS 2813 01:14:56,526 --> 01:14:57,925 UPSTAIRS >> WENT UPSTAIRS 2814 01:14:57,927 --> 01:14:58,626 >> WENT UPSTAIRS UH, AND WHEN I OPENED UP THE 2815 01:14:58,628 --> 01:15:00,161 UH, AND WHEN I OPENED UP THE CLOSET DOOR, THERE WAS AN 2816 01:15:00,163 --> 01:15:01,562 CLOSET DOOR, THERE WAS AN INTRUDER 2817 01:15:01,564 --> 01:15:02,864 INTRUDER >> Reporter: HE TOLD THEM HOW 2818 01:15:02,866 --> 01:15:03,898 >> Reporter: HE TOLD THEM HOW THE INTRUDER DEMANDED HIS 2819 01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:05,666 THE INTRUDER DEMANDED HIS WALLET, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED 2820 01:15:05,668 --> 01:15:06,267 WALLET, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE HEARD CONNIE COME HOME 2821 01:15:06,269 --> 01:15:07,068 WHEN HE HEARD CONNIE COME HOME >> WHAT DID YOU DO 2822 01:15:07,070 --> 01:15:08,169 >> WHAT DID YOU DO >> I YELLED, "CONNIE, THERE'S 2823 01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:10,271 >> I YELLED, "CONNIE, THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE 2824 01:15:10,273 --> 01:15:12,406 SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE RUN. 2825 01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:17,144 RUN. THE INTRUDER GRABBED MY HAND, 2826 01:15:17,146 --> 01:15:18,179 THE INTRUDER GRABBED MY HAND, TWISTED IT SOMEHOW 2827 01:15:18,181 --> 01:15:19,747 TWISTED IT SOMEHOW FORCED ME TO THE GROUND AND RAN 2828 01:15:19,749 --> 01:15:22,950 FORCED ME TO THE GROUND AND RAN OUT, RAN DOWNSTAIRS -- 2829 01:15:22,952 --> 01:15:24,018 OUT, RAN DOWNSTAIRS -- >> WHAT DID YOU DO 2830 01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:25,086 >> WHAT DID YOU DO >> AFTER I EVENTUALLY GOT UP, I 2831 01:15:25,088 --> 01:15:26,120 >> AFTER I EVENTUALLY GOT UP, I RAN AFTER HIM. 2832 01:15:26,122 --> 01:15:27,154 RAN AFTER HIM. >> Reporter: AND HE DESCRIBED 2833 01:15:27,156 --> 01:15:28,756 >> Reporter: AND HE DESCRIBED GETTING TO THE BASEMENT JUST 2834 01:15:28,758 --> 01:15:30,358 GETTING TO THE BASEMENT JUST SECONDS TOO LATE 2835 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,460 SECONDS TOO LATE >> WHAT DID YOU SEE AND HEAR 2836 01:15:32,462 --> 01:15:37,231 >> WHAT DID YOU SEE AND HEAR >> HEARD A LOUD BANG 2837 01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:38,799 >> HEARD A LOUD BANG BELIEVE A FLASH. 2838 01:15:38,801 --> 01:15:40,868 BELIEVE A FLASH. AND I REMEMBER SEEING CONNIE 2839 01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:42,503 AND I REMEMBER SEEING CONNIE FALL MOTIONLESS TO THE GROUND. 2840 01:15:42,505 --> 01:15:43,538 FALL MOTIONLESS TO THE GROUND. >> Reporter: NEXT HE TOLD THE 2841 01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:45,139 >> Reporter: NEXT HE TOLD THE JURY HOW HE WAS TORTURED, 2842 01:15:45,141 --> 01:15:47,241 JURY HOW HE WAS TORTURED, EVENTUALLY FIGHTING OFF THE 2843 01:15:47,243 --> 01:15:48,976 EVENTUALLY FIGHTING OFF THE INTRUDER WITH THE BLOWTORCH. 2844 01:15:48,978 --> 01:15:52,547 INTRUDER WITH THE BLOWTORCH. >> I THOUGHT MAYBE I BURNED HIS 2845 01:15:52,549 --> 01:15:53,581 >> I THOUGHT MAYBE I BURNED HIS MASK, BUT HE PUT HIS HANDS UP ON 2846 01:15:53,583 --> 01:15:58,886 MASK, BUT HE PUT HIS HANDS UP ON HIS FACE -- UM, DROPPED THE, UH, 2847 01:15:58,888 --> 01:15:59,954 HIS FACE -- UM, DROPPED THE, UH, BLOWTORCH AND RAN. 2848 01:15:59,956 --> 01:16:00,988 BLOWTORCH AND RAN. >> Reporter: RICK DABATE 2849 01:16:00,990 --> 01:16:02,023 >> Reporter: RICK DABATE PROFESSED HIS LOVE FOR CONNIE 2850 01:16:02,025 --> 01:16:04,158 PROFESSED HIS LOVE FOR CONNIE AND HIS INNOCENCE IN HER MURDER. 2851 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,226 AND HIS INNOCENCE IN HER MURDER. >> WHO SHOT CONNIE DABATE? 2852 01:16:05,228 --> 01:16:06,260 >> WHO SHOT CONNIE DABATE? >> THE INTRUDER. 2853 01:16:06,262 --> 01:16:08,362 >> THE INTRUDER. >> DID YOU SHOOT CONNIE? 2854 01:16:08,364 --> 01:16:10,464 >> DID YOU SHOOT CONNIE? >> NO. 2855 01:16:10,466 --> 01:16:11,532 >> NO. >> DID YOU STAGE ANY OF THE 2856 01:16:11,534 --> 01:16:13,668 >> DID YOU STAGE ANY OF THE EVIDENCE AT THAT SCENE 2857 01:16:13,670 --> 01:16:14,735 EVIDENCE AT THAT SCENE >> NO, I DIDN'T. 2858 01:16:14,737 --> 01:16:15,736 >> NO, I DIDN'T. >> Reporter: THAT PART OF RICK'S 2859 01:16:15,738 --> 01:16:16,771 >> Reporter: THAT PART OF RICK'S STORY NEVER WAVERED. 2860 01:16:16,773 --> 01:16:18,940 STORY NEVER WAVERED. BUT THERE WERE SUBTLE 2861 01:16:18,942 --> 01:16:19,941 BUT THERE WERE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT HE 2862 01:16:19,943 --> 01:16:22,109 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT HE INITIALLY TOLD INVESTIGATORS AND 2863 01:16:22,111 --> 01:16:23,144 INITIALLY TOLD INVESTIGATORS AND WHAT HE SAID IN COURT. 2864 01:16:23,146 --> 01:16:25,813 WHAT HE SAID IN COURT. FOR INSTANCE, IN 2015 HE TOLD 2865 01:16:25,815 --> 01:16:28,049 FOR INSTANCE, IN 2015 HE TOLD DETECTIVES THIS. 2866 01:16:28,051 --> 01:16:28,983 DETECTIVES THIS. >> I WALKED IN, PUT MY PHONE 2867 01:16:28,985 --> 01:16:30,551 >> I WALKED IN, PUT MY PHONE DOWN 2868 01:16:30,553 --> 01:16:32,153 DOWN AND THEN I HEARD SOMETHING 2869 01:16:32,155 --> 01:16:33,220 AND THEN I HEARD SOMETHING UPSTAIRS 2870 01:16:33,222 --> 01:16:34,255 UPSTAIRS I HEARD SOMETHING FALL AND 2871 01:16:34,257 --> 01:16:35,289 I HEARD SOMETHING FALL AND SOMEBODY BREAK -- CATS, UH, 2872 01:16:35,291 --> 01:16:36,357 SOMEBODY BREAK -- CATS, UH, BREAK SOMETHING AGAIN. 2873 01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:37,425 BREAK SOMETHING AGAIN. THEN I WENT UPSTAIRS, AND THAT'S 2874 01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:38,960 THEN I WENT UPSTAIRS, AND THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED 2875 01:16:38,962 --> 01:16:40,061 WHEN IT HAPPENED >> Reporter: BUT THIS IS WHAT HE 2876 01:16:40,063 --> 01:16:41,128 >> Reporter: BUT THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD THE JURY IN 2022. 2877 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:42,697 TOLD THE JURY IN 2022. >> WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU WENT 2878 01:16:42,699 --> 01:16:48,502 >> WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU WENT INSIDE 2879 01:16:48,504 --> 01:16:49,570 INSIDE >> PUT MY KEYS DOWN ON THE 2880 01:16:49,572 --> 01:16:51,472 >> PUT MY KEYS DOWN ON THE HUTCH. 2881 01:16:51,474 --> 01:16:52,239 HUTCH. PUT MY PHONE NEAR THE KEURIG 2882 01:16:52,241 --> 01:16:53,274 PUT MY PHONE NEAR THE KEURIG 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA MAKE A 2883 01:16:53,276 --> 01:16:55,943 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA MAKE A COFFEE 2884 01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:56,978 COFFEE AND AT THAT POINT, SINCE I 2885 01:16:56,980 --> 01:16:58,012 AND AT THAT POINT, SINCE I ALREADY TOLD MY BOSS I WAS 2886 01:16:58,014 --> 01:16:59,614 ALREADY TOLD MY BOSS I WAS RUNNING LATE, I WAS -- DECIDED 2887 01:16:59,616 --> 01:17:01,182 RUNNING LATE, I WAS -- DECIDED TO KIND OF VEG OUT A LITTLE BIT 2888 01:17:01,184 --> 01:17:02,249 TO KIND OF VEG OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SURF THE INTERNET AND KINDA 2889 01:17:02,251 --> 01:17:03,851 AND SURF THE INTERNET AND KINDA TAKE MY TIME 2890 01:17:03,853 --> 01:17:05,286 TAKE MY TIME >> NOW, AT SOME POINT, WAS THIS 2891 01:17:05,288 --> 01:17:06,988 >> NOW, AT SOME POINT, WAS THIS INTERRUPTED? 2892 01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:10,691 INTERRUPTED? >> YES 2893 01:17:10,693 --> 01:17:12,293 >> YES >> WHAT HAPPENED 2894 01:17:12,295 --> 01:17:13,894 >> WHAT HAPPENED >> HEARD SOMETHING UPSTAIRS. 2895 01:17:13,896 --> 01:17:15,062 >> HEARD SOMETHING UPSTAIRS. >> Reporter: THE ALLEGATION WAS 2896 01:17:15,064 --> 01:17:16,797 >> Reporter: THE ALLEGATION WAS THAT HE WAS CHANGING HIS STORY 2897 01:17:16,799 --> 01:17:19,166 THAT HE WAS CHANGING HIS STORY TO FIT WHAT HE'D HEARD DURING 2898 01:17:19,168 --> 01:17:20,768 TO FIT WHAT HE'D HEARD DURING THE TRIAL. 2899 01:17:20,770 --> 01:17:22,336 THE TRIAL. >> I MEAN, WHAT CHANGED WERE THE 2900 01:17:22,338 --> 01:17:23,404 >> I MEAN, WHAT CHANGED WERE THE GAPS IN BETWEEN THE BIG MOMENTS. 2901 01:17:23,406 --> 01:17:24,972 GAPS IN BETWEEN THE BIG MOMENTS. HOW LONG WAS HE HOME 2902 01:17:24,974 --> 01:17:27,108 HOW LONG WAS HE HOME WAS HE MAKING A COFFEE 2903 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:28,676 WAS HE MAKING A COFFEE YOU KNOW, DID HE GO ON HIS IPAD 2904 01:17:28,678 --> 01:17:29,877 YOU KNOW, DID HE GO ON HIS IPAD FOR A BIT TO KILL SOME TIME? 2905 01:17:29,879 --> 01:17:31,278 FOR A BIT TO KILL SOME TIME? THOSE GAPS CHANGED, BUT THE 2906 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,880 THOSE GAPS CHANGED, BUT THE DETAILS WERE THE SAME. 2907 01:17:32,882 --> 01:17:33,914 DETAILS WERE THE SAME. HE STUCK TO THE KEY PARTS OF HIS 2908 01:17:33,916 --> 01:17:35,516 HE STUCK TO THE KEY PARTS OF HIS STORY THAT HE HAD TOLD THE 2909 01:17:35,518 --> 01:17:37,118 STORY THAT HE HAD TOLD THE POLICE AND THE FAMILY OVER AND 2910 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:37,652 POLICE AND THE FAMILY OVER AND OVER AGAIN 2911 01:17:37,654 --> 01:17:38,686 OVER AGAIN AND THOSE HAVE NEVER CHANGED 2912 01:17:38,688 --> 01:17:41,122 AND THOSE HAVE NEVER CHANGED OVER THE YEARS 2913 01:17:41,124 --> 01:17:41,689 OVER THE YEARS >> Reporter: BUT NOW IT WAS 2914 01:17:41,691 --> 01:17:43,424 >> Reporter: BUT NOW IT WAS STATE'S ATTORNEY 2915 01:17:43,426 --> 01:17:44,091 STATE'S ATTORNEY MATTHEW GEDANSKY'S TURN TO ASK 2916 01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:45,559 MATTHEW GEDANSKY'S TURN TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. 2917 01:17:45,561 --> 01:17:48,696 THE QUESTIONS. AND PERHAPS NOBODY HAD LISTENED 2918 01:17:48,698 --> 01:17:49,263 AND PERHAPS NOBODY HAD LISTENED MORE CLOSELY TO RICK'S STORY 2919 01:17:49,265 --> 01:17:50,331 MORE CLOSELY TO RICK'S STORY THAN HE HAD. 2920 01:17:50,333 --> 01:17:51,899 THAN HE HAD. >> I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO 2921 01:17:51,901 --> 01:17:52,433 >> I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO CROSS-EXAMINE HIM. 2922 01:17:52,435 --> 01:17:52,967 CROSS-EXAMINE HIM. >> Reporter: YEAH. 2923 01:17:52,969 --> 01:17:54,035 >> Reporter: YEAH. DID YOU BEAT HIM UP? 2924 01:17:54,037 --> 01:17:55,069 DID YOU BEAT HIM UP? >> I GUESS THAT'S FOR SOMEONE 2925 01:17:55,071 --> 01:17:56,637 >> I GUESS THAT'S FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DETERMINE. 2926 01:17:56,639 --> 01:17:58,272 ELSE TO DETERMINE. >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR 2927 01:17:58,274 --> 01:17:59,840 >> Reporter: THE PROSECUTOR PULLED NO PUNCHES, ACCUSING RICK 2928 01:17:59,842 --> 01:18:00,474 PULLED NO PUNCHES, ACCUSING RICK OF GETTING RID OF HIS WIFE WHILE 2929 01:18:00,476 --> 01:18:02,443 OF GETTING RID OF HIS WIFE WHILE TRYING TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD 2930 01:18:02,445 --> 01:18:03,010 TRYING TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK GOOD IN THE PROCESS 2931 01:18:03,012 --> 01:18:05,112 IN THE PROCESS >> AND SO THIS IS THE PLAN YOU 2932 01:18:05,114 --> 01:18:07,548 >> AND SO THIS IS THE PLAN YOU CAME UP WITH FOR THIS DILEMMA 2933 01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:08,282 CAME UP WITH FOR THIS DILEMMA THAT YOU WERE IN 2934 01:18:08,284 --> 01:18:11,318 THAT YOU WERE IN >> THERE'S NO PLAN, SIR. 2935 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,521 >> THERE'S NO PLAN, SIR. >> YOU COULD BE THE HERO 2936 01:18:13,523 --> 01:18:15,089 >> YOU COULD BE THE HERO A FAILED HERO, BUT A HERO. 2937 01:18:15,091 --> 01:18:16,390 A FAILED HERO, BUT A HERO. >> NO. 2938 01:18:16,392 --> 01:18:17,191 >> NO. >> Reporter: HE PRESSED RICK TO 2939 01:18:17,193 --> 01:18:18,292 >> Reporter: HE PRESSED RICK TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCONSISTENCIES 2940 01:18:18,294 --> 01:18:20,428 ACCOUNT FOR THE INCONSISTENCIES IN HIS STORY 2941 01:18:20,430 --> 01:18:21,996 IN HIS STORY >> AND YOU COULD SEE FROM THE 2942 01:18:21,998 --> 01:18:23,597 >> AND YOU COULD SEE FROM THE DATA THAT YOU AND CONNIE WERE 2943 01:18:23,599 --> 01:18:25,266 DATA THAT YOU AND CONNIE WERE HOME TOGETHER FOR A GOOD HALF 2944 01:18:25,268 --> 01:18:26,734 HOME TOGETHER FOR A GOOD HALF HOUR OR SO THAT DAY BEFORE SHE 2945 01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:28,369 HOUR OR SO THAT DAY BEFORE SHE WAS KILLED 2946 01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:29,603 WAS KILLED >> AT SOME POINT, I -- OKAY. 2947 01:18:29,605 --> 01:18:30,471 >> AT SOME POINT, I -- OKAY. >> BUT THAT -- THAT DISPUTES 2948 01:18:30,473 --> 01:18:32,006 >> BUT THAT -- THAT DISPUTES YOUR STORY 2949 01:18:32,008 --> 01:18:34,175 YOUR STORY YOUR STORY IS THAT SHE CAME HOME 2950 01:18:34,177 --> 01:18:34,675 YOUR STORY IS THAT SHE CAME HOME AND SHE RAN DOWN TO THE 2951 01:18:34,677 --> 01:18:36,377 AND SHE RAN DOWN TO THE BASEMENT 2952 01:18:36,379 --> 01:18:38,412 BASEMENT >> THAT'S NOT THE FULL STORY, 2953 01:18:38,414 --> 01:18:39,447 >> THAT'S NOT THE FULL STORY, SIR. 2954 01:18:39,449 --> 01:18:40,481 SIR. >> YOU NEVER LEFT THAT HOUSE, 2955 01:18:40,483 --> 01:18:41,549 >> YOU NEVER LEFT THAT HOUSE, DID YOU? 2956 01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:43,451 DID YOU? >> I ABSOLUTELY LEFT THE HOUSE 2957 01:18:43,453 --> 01:18:44,752 >> I ABSOLUTELY LEFT THE HOUSE THAT DAY 2958 01:18:44,754 --> 01:18:46,887 THAT DAY >> Reporter: AND EVERY CHANCE HE 2959 01:18:46,889 --> 01:18:47,922 >> Reporter: AND EVERY CHANCE HE GOT, THE PROSECUTOR MADE SURE TO 2960 01:18:47,924 --> 01:18:50,024 GOT, THE PROSECUTOR MADE SURE TO EMPHASIZE ONE KEY ELEMENT OF 2961 01:18:50,026 --> 01:18:51,092 EMPHASIZE ONE KEY ELEMENT OF RICK'S STORY 2962 01:18:51,094 --> 01:18:52,126 RICK'S STORY A HOLLYWOOD ELEMENT. 2963 01:18:52,128 --> 01:18:53,728 A HOLLYWOOD ELEMENT. >> THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE IN THAT 2964 01:18:53,730 --> 01:18:54,562 >> THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE IN THAT CLOSET, YOU AND VIN DIESEL 2965 01:18:54,564 --> 01:18:55,863 CLOSET, YOU AND VIN DIESEL THAT MUST BE YOUR WRESTLING 2966 01:18:55,865 --> 01:18:57,965 THAT MUST BE YOUR WRESTLING MATCH WITH VIN DIESEL, CORRECT 2967 01:18:57,967 --> 01:18:59,567 MATCH WITH VIN DIESEL, CORRECT VIN DIESEL - 2968 01:18:59,569 --> 01:19:00,601 VIN DIESEL - THIS VIN DIESEL GUY -- 2969 01:19:00,603 --> 01:19:02,269 THIS VIN DIESEL GUY -- YOU MUST'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH 2970 01:19:02,271 --> 01:19:03,237 YOU MUST'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH VIN DIESEL, WERE YOU NOT 2971 01:19:03,239 --> 01:19:04,839 VIN DIESEL, WERE YOU NOT >> I WAS FIGHTING WITH AN 2972 01:19:04,841 --> 01:19:06,240 >> I WAS FIGHTING WITH AN INTRUDER, YES. 2973 01:19:06,242 --> 01:19:10,144 INTRUDER, YES. >> Reporter: WHY BRING UP A 2974 01:19:10,146 --> 01:19:11,178 >> Reporter: WHY BRING UP A MOVIE STAR SO MANY TIMES IN YOUR 2975 01:19:11,180 --> 01:19:12,780 MOVIE STAR SO MANY TIMES IN YOUR CROSS-EXAMINATION? 2976 01:19:12,782 --> 01:19:13,981 CROSS-EXAMINATION? >> HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID THE GUY 2977 01:19:13,983 --> 01:19:15,382 >> HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID THE GUY SOUNDED LIKE VIN DIESEL. 2978 01:19:15,384 --> 01:19:16,951 SOUNDED LIKE VIN DIESEL. SO I WAS CERTAINLY GONNA USE IT 2979 01:19:16,953 --> 01:19:18,052 SO I WAS CERTAINLY GONNA USE IT WITH HIM 2980 01:19:18,054 --> 01:19:18,953 WITH HIM >> Reporter: WAS HE TRYING TO 2981 01:19:18,955 --> 01:19:20,121 >> Reporter: WAS HE TRYING TO GET A RISE OUT RICK? 2982 01:19:20,123 --> 01:19:21,722 GET A RISE OUT RICK? OR WAS IT A WINK AND A NOD TO 2983 01:19:21,724 --> 01:19:22,389 OR WAS IT A WINK AND A NOD TO THE JURY -- A WAY TO EMPHASIZE 2984 01:19:22,391 --> 01:19:25,426 THE JURY -- A WAY TO EMPHASIZE HOW RIDICULOUS HE FOUND THE 2985 01:19:25,428 --> 01:19:27,027 HOW RIDICULOUS HE FOUND THE WHOLE STORY. 2986 01:19:27,029 --> 01:19:28,596 WHOLE STORY. >> YOU CHASED VIN DIESEL, WHO 2987 01:19:28,598 --> 01:19:31,232 >> YOU CHASED VIN DIESEL, WHO WAS CHASING YOUR WIFE? 2988 01:19:31,234 --> 01:19:32,466 WAS CHASING YOUR WIFE? >> Reporter: THE EXCHANGES WERE 2989 01:19:32,468 --> 01:19:34,368 >> Reporter: THE EXCHANGES WERE TENSE, OFTEN ACCUSATORY, BUT 2990 01:19:34,370 --> 01:19:35,970 TENSE, OFTEN ACCUSATORY, BUT RICK DABATE STUCK TO HIS STORY 2991 01:19:35,972 --> 01:19:37,571 RICK DABATE STUCK TO HIS STORY HE DIDN'T KILL CONNIE. 2992 01:19:37,573 --> 01:19:38,906 HE DIDN'T KILL CONNIE. AN INTRUDER DID. 2993 01:19:38,908 --> 01:19:39,707 AN INTRUDER DID. >> YOU SHOT HER IN THE BACK OF 2994 01:19:39,709 --> 01:19:41,175 >> YOU SHOT HER IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD, DID YOU NOT? 2995 01:19:41,177 --> 01:19:42,877 THE HEAD, DID YOU NOT? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR 2996 01:19:42,879 --> 01:19:44,979 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR >> AND THEN YOU WENT UP TO HER 2997 01:19:44,981 --> 01:19:46,046 >> AND THEN YOU WENT UP TO HER AND YOU PULLED HER BACK AND YOU 2998 01:19:46,048 --> 01:19:47,114 AND YOU PULLED HER BACK AND YOU PUT ANOTHER SHOT IN HER STOMACH 2999 01:19:47,116 --> 01:19:48,182 PUT ANOTHER SHOT IN HER STOMACH TO FINISH HER OFF, DIDN'T YOU? 3000 01:19:48,184 --> 01:19:49,483 TO FINISH HER OFF, DIDN'T YOU? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR 3001 01:19:49,485 --> 01:19:50,151 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR >> Reporter: WAS HE LYING? 3002 01:19:50,153 --> 01:19:51,318 >> Reporter: WAS HE LYING? IT WAS NOW UP TO THE JURY TO 3003 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,887 IT WAS NOW UP TO THE JURY TO DECIDE 3004 01:19:52,889 --> 01:19:54,488 DECIDE >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE 3005 01:19:54,490 --> 01:19:55,523 >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY, IN THE CASE OF STATE 3006 01:19:55,525 --> 01:19:56,590 JURY, IN THE CASE OF STATE V. RICHARD DABATE, HAVE YOU 3007 01:19:56,592 --> 01:19:58,159 V. RICHARD DABATE, HAVE YOU AGREED UPON A VERDICT? 3008 01:19:58,161 --> 01:19:59,393 AGREED UPON A VERDICT? >> WE HAVE 3009 01:19:59,395 --> 01:19:59,994 >> WE HAVE >> Reporter: LESS THAN A DAY'S 3010 01:19:59,996 --> 01:20:01,328 >> Reporter: LESS THAN A DAY'S WORTH OF DELIBERATING WAS ALL IT 3011 01:20:01,330 --> 01:20:02,396 WORTH OF DELIBERATING WAS ALL IT TOOK 3012 01:20:02,398 --> 01:20:03,397 TOOK >> WILL THE DEFENDANT, 3013 01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:04,465 >> WILL THE DEFENDANT, RICHARD DABATE, PLEASE RISE AND 3014 01:20:04,467 --> 01:20:05,566 RICHARD DABATE, PLEASE RISE AND FACE THE JURY. 3015 01:20:05,568 --> 01:20:08,169 FACE THE JURY. >> MADAME FOREPERSON, IS THE 3016 01:20:08,171 --> 01:20:10,471 >> MADAME FOREPERSON, IS THE DEFENDANT GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY 3017 01:20:10,473 --> 01:20:14,108 DEFENDANT GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY >> WE FOUND THE DEFENDANT 3018 01:20:14,110 --> 01:20:15,042 >> WE FOUND THE DEFENDANT GUILTY 3019 01:20:15,044 --> 01:20:16,844 GUILTY >> Reporter: HOW DID YOU FEEL 3020 01:20:16,846 --> 01:20:18,212 >> Reporter: HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU HEARD GUILTY? 3021 01:20:18,214 --> 01:20:20,347 WHEN YOU HEARD GUILTY? >> LIKE A -- LIKE A VICTORY. 3022 01:20:20,349 --> 01:20:21,415 >> LIKE A -- LIKE A VICTORY. YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY FELT LIKE A 3023 01:20:21,417 --> 01:20:22,183 YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY FELT LIKE A WEIGHT LIFTED OFF MY SHOULDERS 3024 01:20:22,185 --> 01:20:22,950 WEIGHT LIFTED OFF MY SHOULDERS >> Reporter: IT HAD BEEN YEARS 3025 01:20:22,952 --> 01:20:24,018 >> Reporter: IT HAD BEEN YEARS >> YEARS 3026 01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:25,553 >> YEARS >> Reporter: FINALLY, THIS PART 3027 01:20:25,555 --> 01:20:26,153 >> Reporter: FINALLY, THIS PART WAS OVER 3028 01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:29,323 WAS OVER >> YEAH. 3029 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:30,891 >> YEAH. IT WAS RELIEF. 3030 01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:35,629 IT WAS RELIEF. >> Reporter: AFTER 6 1/2 YEARS 3031 01:20:35,631 --> 01:20:36,697 >> Reporter: AFTER 6 1/2 YEARS FROM THAT DAY THAT YOU WENT TO 3032 01:20:36,699 --> 01:20:37,731 FROM THAT DAY THAT YOU WENT TO THAT CRIME SCENE, YOU FINALLY 3033 01:20:37,733 --> 01:20:39,433 THAT CRIME SCENE, YOU FINALLY HAD THE GUILTY VERDICT 3034 01:20:39,435 --> 01:20:41,969 HAD THE GUILTY VERDICT >> YOU KNOW, WE FELT A GREAT 3035 01:20:41,971 --> 01:20:43,204 >> YOU KNOW, WE FELT A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY TO CONNIE 3036 01:20:43,206 --> 01:20:45,739 RESPONSIBILITY TO CONNIE AND OBVIOUSLY VERY HAPPY WITH 3037 01:20:45,741 --> 01:20:47,775 AND OBVIOUSLY VERY HAPPY WITH THE VERDICT. 3038 01:20:47,777 --> 01:20:51,478 THE VERDICT. THE IRONY IS THAT HE CAME UP 3039 01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:52,513 THE IRONY IS THAT HE CAME UP WITH THIS CRAZY, EVIL PLAN TO 3040 01:20:52,515 --> 01:20:54,081 WITH THIS CRAZY, EVIL PLAN TO PROTECT HIS REPUTATION 3041 01:20:54,083 --> 01:20:55,716 PROTECT HIS REPUTATION AND THIS IS HOW HE'S GOING TO BE 3042 01:20:55,718 --> 01:20:57,284 AND THIS IS HOW HE'S GOING TO BE REMEMBERED 3043 01:20:57,286 --> 01:20:58,352 REMEMBERED >> Reporter: RICK DABATE, 3044 01:20:58,354 --> 01:20:59,920 >> Reporter: RICK DABATE, CONVICTED WIFE KILLER. 3045 01:20:59,922 --> 01:21:03,090 CONVICTED WIFE KILLER. HE WAS SENTENCED TO 65 YEARS IN 3046 01:21:03,092 --> 01:21:06,293 HE WAS SENTENCED TO 65 YEARS IN PRISON 3047 01:21:06,295 --> 01:21:07,328 PRISON >> IT WAS AN AMAZING FEELING 3048 01:21:07,330 --> 01:21:08,395 >> IT WAS AN AMAZING FEELING LIKE, IT WAS BETTER THAN I 3049 01:21:08,397 --> 01:21:10,564 LIKE, IT WAS BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE. 3050 01:21:10,566 --> 01:21:15,469 THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE. AND I JUST THINK IT WAS BECAUSE 3051 01:21:15,471 --> 01:21:19,440 AND I JUST THINK IT WAS BECAUSE I CAN MOVE ON NOW. 3052 01:21:19,442 --> 01:21:21,041 I CAN MOVE ON NOW. 'CAUSE THOSE SEVEN YEARS, THERE 3053 01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:23,077 'CAUSE THOSE SEVEN YEARS, THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH ANXIETY 3054 01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:24,712 WAS JUST SO MUCH ANXIETY I CHANGED AS A PERSON. 3055 01:21:24,714 --> 01:21:26,280 I CHANGED AS A PERSON. I LOST A PART OF ME THAT I'LL 3056 01:21:26,282 --> 01:21:27,882 I LOST A PART OF ME THAT I'LL NEVER GET BACK 3057 01:21:27,884 --> 01:21:29,950 NEVER GET BACK >> Reporter: ON THE OTHER SIDE 3058 01:21:29,952 --> 01:21:31,585 >> Reporter: ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURTROOM, DIFFERENT 3059 01:21:31,587 --> 01:21:33,387 OF THE COURTROOM, DIFFERENT TEARS. 3060 01:21:33,389 --> 01:21:34,722 TEARS. THAT'S A TOUGH MOMENT WHEN -- 3061 01:21:34,724 --> 01:21:36,323 THAT'S A TOUGH MOMENT WHEN -- NOW YOUR SON IS BEING LED AWAY 3062 01:21:36,325 --> 01:21:42,129 NOW YOUR SON IS BEING LED AWAY FOR MURDERING HIS WIFE 3063 01:21:42,131 --> 01:21:50,604 FOR MURDERING HIS WIFE >> YUP 3064 01:21:50,606 --> 01:21:51,639 >> YUP YEAH 3065 01:21:51,641 --> 01:21:56,377 YEAH I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S THERE 3066 01:21:56,379 --> 01:21:57,444 I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S THERE I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S THERE 3067 01:21:57,446 --> 01:21:58,512 I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S THERE >> Reporter: TWO FAMILIES, TORN 3068 01:21:58,514 --> 01:22:00,614 >> Reporter: TWO FAMILIES, TORN APART, LEARNING TO LIVE WITH 3069 01:22:00,616 --> 01:22:01,649 APART, LEARNING TO LIVE WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAIN. 3070 01:22:01,651 --> 01:22:04,818 DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAIN. BUT THEY ALL SHARE ONE THING -- 3071 01:22:04,820 --> 01:22:05,886 BUT THEY ALL SHARE ONE THING -- A LOVE FOR CONNIE. 3072 01:22:05,888 --> 01:22:07,988 A LOVE FOR CONNIE. >> EVERYTHING SHE DID WAS OUT OF 3073 01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:10,424 >> EVERYTHING SHE DID WAS OUT OF HER HEART. 3074 01:22:10,426 --> 01:22:12,226 HER HEART. THERE ARE PEOPLE WE NEVER MET 3075 01:22:12,228 --> 01:22:13,260 THERE ARE PEOPLE WE NEVER MET THAT WOULD REACH OUT AND SAY, 3076 01:22:13,262 --> 01:22:14,795 THAT WOULD REACH OUT AND SAY, "SHE DID THIS SMALL ACT OF 3077 01:22:14,797 --> 01:22:16,363 "SHE DID THIS SMALL ACT OF KINDNESS" OR "SHE DID SOMETHING 3078 01:22:16,365 --> 01:22:17,932 KINDNESS" OR "SHE DID SOMETHING AMAZING. 3079 01:22:17,934 --> 01:22:18,999 AMAZING. >> Reporter: AND DO YOU FEEL 3080 01:22:19,001 --> 01:22:20,534 >> Reporter: AND DO YOU FEEL THAT CONNIE WILL LIVE ON IN HER 3081 01:22:20,536 --> 01:22:22,770 THAT CONNIE WILL LIVE ON IN HER BOYS 3082 01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:25,639 BOYS >> I KNOW SHE WILL 3083 01:22:25,641 --> 01:22:26,473 >> I KNOW SHE WILL LIKE, SHE JUST -- SHE HAD A 3084 01:22:26,475 --> 01:22:27,508 LIKE, SHE JUST -- SHE HAD A GREAT, BEAUTIFUL INFLUENCE ON 3085 01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:28,943 GREAT, BEAUTIFUL INFLUENCE ON THEM 3086 01:22:28,945 --> 01:22:29,576 THEM AND I KNOW THEY WILL CARRY THAT 3087 01:22:29,578 --> 01:22:31,712 AND I KNOW THEY WILL CARRY THAT FORWARD. 3088 01:22:31,714 --> 01:22:33,314 FORWARD. >> Reporter: AND MAYBE A GOOD 3089 01:22:33,316 --> 01:22:34,949 >> Reporter: AND MAYBE A GOOD PIECE OF ADVICE IS TO GO THROUGH 3090 01:22:34,951 --> 01:22:35,582 PIECE OF ADVICE IS TO GO THROUGH LIFE TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEIR 3091 01:22:35,584 --> 01:22:38,585 LIFE TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEIR MOM DID? 3092 01:22:38,587 --> 01:22:39,653 MOM DID? >> ABSOLUTELY. 3093 01:22:39,655 --> 01:22:40,688 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: PEGGY AND DARLENE 3094 01:22:40,690 --> 01:22:43,891 >> Reporter: PEGGY AND DARLENE WILL FOREVER MISS THEIR THIRD 3095 01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:45,993 WILL FOREVER MISS THEIR THIRD MUSKETEER. 3096 01:22:45,995 --> 01:22:47,061 MUSKETEER. BUT THEY KNOW CONNIE'S LEGACY 3097 01:22:47,063 --> 01:22:50,230 BUT THEY KNOW CONNIE'S LEGACY LIVES ON ALONG THE ONCE AGAIN 3098 01:22:50,232 --> 01:22:53,400 LIVES ON ALONG THE ONCE AGAIN QUIET BIRCH VIEW DRIVE 3099 01:22:53,402 --> 01:22:54,969 QUIET BIRCH VIEW DRIVE >> CONNIE WAS THE CONNECTOR. 3100 01:22:54,971 --> 01:22:56,003 >> CONNIE WAS THE CONNECTOR. CONNIE WANTED TO CONNECT ALL OF 3101 01:22:56,005 --> 01:22:57,037 CONNIE WANTED TO CONNECT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS TO ONE ANOTHER 3102 01:22:57,039 --> 01:22:58,138 THE NEIGHBORS TO ONE ANOTHER >> Reporter: HER DEATH BROUGHT 3103 01:22:58,140 --> 01:22:59,673 >> Reporter: HER DEATH BROUGHT EVERYONE TOGETHER? 3104 01:22:59,675 --> 01:23:01,241 EVERYONE TOGETHER? >> ABSOLUTELY. 3105 01:23:01,243 --> 01:23:03,310 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL FROM THE 3106 01:23:03,312 --> 01:23:04,411 >> SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL FROM THE INSIDE OUT 3107 01:23:04,413 --> 01:23:05,946 INSIDE OUT HER LIGHT WAS SO BRIGHT THAT YOU 3108 01:23:05,948 --> 01:23:12,152 HER LIGHT WAS SO BRIGHT THAT YOU JUST WANTED TO BE IN THE LIGHT 3109 01:23:12,154 --> 01:23:12,386 JUST WANTED TO BE IN THE LIGHT WITH HER 3110 01:23:12,388 --> 01:23:14,021 WITH HER >>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION 3111 01:23:14,023 --> 01:23:15,522 >>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "DATELINE." 3112 01:23:15,524 --> 01:23:17,424 OF "DATELINE." WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY 3113 01:23:17,426 --> 01:23:18,158 WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY AT 9:00, 8:00 CENTRAL. 3114 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,193 AT 9:00, 8:00 CENTRAL. AND, OF COURSE, I'LL SEE YOU 3115 01:23:19,195 --> 01:23:20,260 AND, OF COURSE, I'LL SEE YOU EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR "NBC NIGHTLY 3116 01:23:20,262 --> 01:23:21,295 EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR "NBC NIGHTLY NEWS." 3117 01:23:21,297 --> 01:23:22,863 NEWS." I'M LESTER HOLT. 3118 01:23:22,865 --> 01:23:28,402 I'M LESTER HOLT. FOR ALL OF US AT NBC NEWS, GOOD