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ANNOUNCER: From New York City,
the only city in America,
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it's the show that
invented news.
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This is The Daily Show with
your host, Wanda Sykes.
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[cheering]
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Hey, what's going
on, everybody?
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I'm Wanda Sykes, and I'm back--
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I'm Wanda Sykes,
and I'm back for day
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two of hosting The Daily Show.
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I thought we covered all the
news yesterday, but turns out
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there's more.
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So let's get to it.
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[cheering]
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Our first story, the
2023 Oscar nominations
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were announced this morning.
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Yeah.
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[cheering]
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And if you're wondering
how they picked
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the nominees this year, they
basically just went, hmm,
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let's see.
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Who's not going to slap nobody?
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[laughter]
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That's my pick.
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Now, as usual, there was
good news and bad news.
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Good news-- Michelle Yeoh
became the first Asian woman
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nominated for Best Actress.
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[cheering]
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But bad news-- no women were
nominated for Best Director.
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[booing]
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Yeah, but, remember, they gave
it to Jane Campion last year.
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So I guess this
year they thought,
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eh, that should hold you
broads for the next 50 years.
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And, personally, I'm a
big Woody Harrelson fan.
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So I was happy to
see some nominations
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for Triangle of Sadness.
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Yeah.
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[cheering]
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Which is not just a good
movie, it's also what
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Mike Pence calls a vagina.
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[laughter]
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But speaking of Mike
Pence, guess what
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they just found at his house.
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Yes, classified documents.
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Yes, him too.
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First Trump, then
Biden, now Mike Pence.
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At some point, the FBI is just
going to have to be like, OK,
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I'm gonna close my
eyes and count to 10.
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And if there are classified
documents on this table
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when I open them, no
one gets in trouble.
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[applause]
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All right, let's move on
to news out of Washington,
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to the biggest crisis the
country is facing right now.
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Finally, there's something
that Republicans and Democrats
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seem united on, and
it's this, the Taylor
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Swift ticket fiasco.
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Today on Capitol Hill,
senators held a hearing
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to examine the
lack of competition
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in the ticketing industry.
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REPORTER: The
bipartisan hearing
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comes in the wake of
a technology breakdown
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on the Ticketmaster website
during the presale for Taylor
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Swift's upcoming tour.
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Superfans known as Swifties
faced hours-long wait
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times and website crashes.
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(CRYING) I just really
wanted to see Taylor.
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I'm not getting tickets.
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[laughter]
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Shame on you, Ticketmaster.
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Look what you did to these
emotional young people.
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Hey, you know what?
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It's about time someone held
Ticketmaster accountable.
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And the Swifties are the only
ones who can get this done.
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They're the most
politically-organized group
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in America.
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Yeah, it goes Swifties,
the Teamsters,
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and somewhere way all
the way down the list
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is the Democrats.
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[laughter]
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These hearings are so popular.
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I bet Ticketmaster screwed
up tickets to that too.
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You got kids outside crying.
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[sobs] I'm the
Senate's biggest fan.
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I just wanted to
see Dick Durbin!
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But, ultimately, there's only
one way to fix this problem--
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get rid of online ticket sales.
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Go back to waiting on line
in person out in the cold.
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[cheering]
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Make people earn that
shit like we used to.
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You're not a real fan
unless getting a ticket
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gave you hypothermia.
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Hey, I almost lost two toes
just to see Johnny Gill.
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And I'd do it again, damn it.
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And, finally, Ticketmaster
isn't the only company that
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needs to make some changes.
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Down in Florida,
Disney World is
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bringing one of its
most popular rides
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into the present day.
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Well, a Disney ride that
many people experienced
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as a kid is no more.
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Disney World in
Florida has officially
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closed Splash Mountain.
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And Disneyland in California
will be following suit.
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Splash Mountain
features characters
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from the 1946 Disney
film Song of the South,
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which critics say portrays
racial stereotypes.
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Splash Mountain will be
turned into a new ride based
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on the 2009 animated film
The Princess and the Frog,
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which features Tiana,
Disney's first Black princess.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Disney says it's going to get
rid of "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah"
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and turn it into a ride about
The Princess and the Frog.
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You know they're just going to
keep the song, though, right?
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They're just going
to change the lyrics.
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(SINGING) She's
a Black princess
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unless she's a Black frog.
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I mean, I appreciate
the effort from Disney.
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But you're going to make
the Black ride the one
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where we get our hair wet.
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That's just more
racist than before.
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So for more on
this controversy,
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we go to Roy Wood, Jr., who
is live at Disney World.
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[cheering]
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Yes, what's up, Wanda?
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Roy, you're at ground
zero of this controversy.
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How are people feeling
about these changes?
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Oh, Wanda, these
changes are long overdue.
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All that racism was
ruining the simple pleasure
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of Splash Mountain,
which is to fall
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into a giant pool of piss.
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But if you ask me, this
doesn't go far enough.
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We need Disney World
to close more rides
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like them damn mad teacups.
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Close them-- close
them teacups.
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Why?
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Is that ride racist too?
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No, but when I was
eight, I got on that ride
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and threw up on my crush,
ruined Stephanie's dress.
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Reese's Pieces all over
the place, everywhere.
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You know that ride.
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The teacup be spinning.
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I was like a vomit sprinkler.
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[babbles] I'm sorry, Stephanie.
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I'm so sorry.
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Roy, Roy, nobody gives a shit
about your digestive system.
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We're just glad Disney
is trying to remove
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racism from its parks.
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With all due respect,
Wanda, I disagree.
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I don't think we
should be removing
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the racism from the rides.
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In fact, we should
be adding racism.
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Why in the hell
would we want to add
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racism into Disney World?
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Because Disney World
might be the only place
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left in Florida where kids
can learn about racism.
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It's a mad place.
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[cheering]
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You see what DeSantis
is doing down here.
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DeSantis taking Black
History out of the schools,
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cracking down on AP classes.
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Pretty soon, he gonna
ban the word Black.
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We're going to have
to start saying
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super gray or dark
white or something.
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I see what you're saying.
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The kids come in for
the fun, and then we
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sneak in the education.
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Exactly, exactly.
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That's what we do, sneak it in.
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Like, you know
those bumper cars
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they got in Tomorrow Land.
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Tomorrow Land got them
bumper cars, right?
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Add some cops in there pulling
Black people over to teach
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the kids about traffic stops.
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What you mean I was
driving recklessly, sir?
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This is a bumper car.
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And don't tell me my
tail light was out.
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There is no tail light.
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Mama!
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Mama!
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Well, you know what?
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You might be on
to something, Roy.
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I'm telling you, Wanda,
we put a little racism
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into these rides.
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The kids are going to learn.
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And you know how they do
that parade down at Disney,
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all the Disney characters.
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And that's fun for everybody.
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Set the parade in Selma.
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Walk Mickey Mouse and them
across that Edmund Pettus
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Bridge with Buzz Lightyear
on the other side,
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waiting to beat their asses
to infinity and beyond.
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That's better
than any textbook.
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[applause]
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Damn, Roy, I mean, this is
getting a little harsh, right?
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What they've done to
us was harsh, Wanda!
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I'm being fair.
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Oh, how about this?
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You know what?
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You know they got Main
Street USA down there, right?
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It's a beautiful
collection of shops
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and successful
businesses, and they're
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bustling and doing well.
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Uh-oh, I see
where this is going.
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Bomb that shit
just like they did
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Black Wall Street in Tulsa!
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People need to know the
truth about this shit, Wanda.
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I think bombing
people is a bit
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much for an amusement park.
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You're entitled
to your opinion.
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Last idea-- best
idea, Epcot Center--
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Epcot Center should
be whites only.
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What's that going
to teach them?
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It won't teach them nothing.
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Epcot just boring as hell,
and I don't want to go.
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It's just a big-ass golf
ball with an elevator.
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Listen, Wanda, I gotta roll.
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I'm up next for the teacups,
and I got something to prove.
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Stephanie, if you're watching
this, my stomach is strong.
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I'm a man now.
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I can eat this food and
still ride the ride.
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I won't vomit on
you, Stephanie.
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Please, hit my DMs.
Come on.
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Good luck-- Shoot
me a DM, Stephanie.
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--with that, Roy.
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Roy Wood, Jr., everybody.
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All right, when we
come back, we'll
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find out what's
going on with George
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Santos and his lying ass.
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So don't go away.
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[cheering]
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[cheering]
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Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
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Tell you, it's been a bad
week for George Santos,
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or as he calls it, a good week.
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He's already been
caught, like, 50 lies.
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He lied about his career.
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He lied about his name.
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He lied about running
a pet charity.
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And now he's getting
caught in a new lie.
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According to an ex-friend of
George Santos's from Brazil,
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the openly gay New York
Congressman used to perform
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in drag back in the day
and even had his own drag
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queen persona named Kitara.
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REPORTER 1: Photos and video
reveal that Santos performed
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in drag several times
over at least three years
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despite his claim
that it was something
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he did just once for fun.
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REPORTER 2:
Congressman, were you
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ever a drag queen in Brazil?
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[scoffs] No, I was not a
drag queen in Brazil, guys.
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I was young, and I
had fun at a festival.
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Sue me for having a life.
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Sue me for having a life?
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No, man, we should
sue you for lying.
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[cheering]
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You know, but the drag
queen part is pretty cool.
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I like Kitara.
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Kitara, you stay.
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George Santos, sashay away.
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[cheering]
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Now, with all these lies, it's
no surprise that 59% of New
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Yorkers want him to resign.
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But that does
raise the question,
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how could it only be 59%?
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Who are the people who
don't want him to resign?
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Well, lucky for us, they
just released an ad.
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You've probably
been hearing a lot
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in the media about our new
Congressman, George Santos.
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But now it's time
that you hear from us,
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the people who voted for him.
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We here in New
York's third district
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voted for Congressman Santos
because he's a fighter--
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and not just as a
politician, but as a boxer
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who beat Muhammad Ali in 1972.
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A great fight.
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Come on, Tommy!
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I stand with George
Santos because when
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my apartment building
was collapsing,
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he held it up with one arm.
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I support George
Santos because, simply
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put, he's a war hero.
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Also invented the window.
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I'm voting for Santos
because he cares about seniors.
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And as an 87-year-old woman,
that's important to me.
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I stand with the
brother George Santos
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because he invented
the cure for COVID.
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Just wish he had done it
before I died from it.
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I stand with Santos.
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Yup, even me, Academy Award
winner Morgan Freeman.
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As a Christian
woman who's never
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had sex because I'm saving
myself for marriage,
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I know George Santos
shares my values.
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Why do I support
George Santos?
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Because we're both
proudly Jewish.
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Jew-ish.
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I stand with George Santos.
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Now watch me eat this
meatball sandwich.
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Mm.
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I stand with George
Santos, who's-- who's
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Anthony Devolder.
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I stand with Anthony
Santos Devolder.
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D-- George Santos--
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I stand with George Santos.
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I stand with George Costanza.
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Anthony DeVito?
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George Michael.
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John Stamos.
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Whatever his name may be, I--
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I'm with h-- I'm with her.
I'm with him.
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Can I call him Rick?
I want to say Rick.
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I stand with Rick.
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Y'all know who he is.
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ANNOUNCER: Paid
for with money you
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sent to a dying dog probably.
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[cheering]
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All right, stay tuned
because when we come back,
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the renowned feminist
Katha Pollitt will
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be joining me on the show.
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So don't go away.
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[cheering]
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[applause, cheering]
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Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
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My guest tonight is an
award-winning columnist
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for The Nation.
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She's written a number
of books, including Pro--
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Reclaiming Abortion Rights.
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She's here to talk about
abortion politics and
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the fight for women's rights.
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Please welcome Katha Pollitt.
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[applause, cheering]
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Hi.
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Hi.
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You look good.
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Thank you so much
for being here.
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Oh, thank you so much
for having me, Wanda.
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Appreciate it.
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So you've been an abortion
rights advocate for decades.
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And it seems like we keep
having this same debate
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for, like, over 50 years.
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So how has-- has
it changed any?
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Or is it the same conversation?
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That question makes
me feel very old.
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[laughs] But I think
the conversation
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has been stuck in several ways.
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And one way I want to mention
is that a lot of people
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have voted anti-abortion
legislation because they
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thought it would never happen.
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So they would vote
in state legislatures
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for these wild things,
thinking, well, Roe is there,
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it's not going to be so crazy.
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But now it is.
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So they're thinking, oh,
my God, what have I done?
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At least some of them are.
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But I think the other thing
is that Dobbs, which--
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which overthrew Roe, has woken
up pro-choicers in the most--
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and women who maybe
didn't know they
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were pro-choice in
the most amazing way.
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[cheering, applause]
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It was very important
in the last election
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in several races.
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And abortion rights
won in election.
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Yes, it did.
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[cheering, applause]
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And what's-- what's especially
interesting is that there were
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six states in which
there was anti-abortion
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stuff on the ballot.
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It went down in every
case, including in Kansas--
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[cheering, applause]
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--in very, very red Kansas
and very, very red Kentucky.
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So that tells you something.
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It tells you people
aren't really down
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with the idea of
banning all abortion
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and making women suffer.
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OK.
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But that's--
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[applause]
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It's interesting what
you said at first.
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It's like, they didn't really
want it to happen at first.
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It was just kind of
like performative.
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It was just like, hey,
let's put this out there,
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and it'll draw the other
people in to vote for us
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so we can pass more things
that's, like, about taxes
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and stuff.
KATHA POLLITT: Exactly.
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- Right?
- Exactly.
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It is-- it's like a
signal that, you know,
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I'm a good Christian.
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But in real life, it served
other purposes as well
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of just being very,
very reactionary
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on a whole range of issues.
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OK.
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And now the terminology
that they use,
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it's like scare tactics.
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Like, you know,
like partial birth
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abortion and abortion doctors.
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Like, no one goes to
college and go, you know,
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what you going to be?
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I'm going to be a cardiologist.
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What you doing?
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Ooh, I don't know, I think
I'm going to work with feet.
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What about you?
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Abortions, that's all that
I'm doing, just abortions.
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I mean, there's no such thing
as, like, an abortion doctor.
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Well, they used to--
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they used to call
them abortionists.
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OK.
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So that's, like,
really not a real doctor.
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You don't want to go
to an abortionist.
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WANDA SYKES: Right.
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Abortion doctor
is a demeaning term.
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OBGYN is a good term.
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Providing care for women--
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WANDA SYKES: That's
an even better term.
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--that's a good
way to put it.
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WANDA SYKES: Right.
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[applause]
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And it's all intended to
make it seem as though abortion
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is not part of health care.
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And the very important
thing that everybody
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has to think about is abortion
is part of health care.
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[cheering, applause]
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Absolutely.
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Now, I'm glad
you're saying that--
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to hear that young women are
active and they're voting
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because we need them, because
the House Majority Leader
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Steve Scalise said
that "Roe's reversal"--
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and this is a quote--
he said, "Only
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the first phase in the battle.
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Now the next phase begins."
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Like, what is that next phase?
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What do you think that means?
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I think it means
contraception,
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going after contraception--
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[audience muttering]
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--that there are
right-to-lifers who believe
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that the birth control
pill is what they
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call a "chemical abortion."
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They think the morning-after
pill, which you can--
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which you take to
prevent a pregnancy,
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is actually an abortion.
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They think the IUD
is an abortion.
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It's like, it's in there.
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It's performing
abortions every day.
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[laughter]
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They have their own--
they have their own facts.
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And I think that we're already
seeing that contraception,
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which should be part of the--
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if you're against
abortion, you should
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be in favor of contraception
because that will prevent.
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WANDA SYKES: Right.
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[applause]
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But we're already
seeing moves to make
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contraception harder to get.
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So these-- they have no
idea how a woman's body works.
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That's so true.
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Science.
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That's so true.
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There was recently a state
legislator in a very red state
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of Idaho or Utah, I think,
and he said, I raise cattle,
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I know all about what goes on.
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I've walked behind cows.
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And I'm thinking, so you've
looked up a cow's behind,
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and you think you understand
what happens with women.
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I mean, how crazy is that?
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[laughter]
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- Ugh!
- I know.
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- That's terrifying.
- It's terrifying.
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It is.
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It is.
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So-- and it's such
a polarizing issue.
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How do we change minds?
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How do we sway them?
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Or is it education?
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Or is it like a
personal experience?
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What is it?
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Well, I think it's
all those things.
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I think personal
experience, if people know
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someone who's had
an abortion, they
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start to think differently.
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And there's actually
a sociological study
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that shows this by a
sociologist named Sarah Cowan,
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who found out that even very,
very anti-abortion people,
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if it's someone in their
family, if it's a friend,
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they'll be kind a
lot of the time.
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They might even drive
that person to the clinic,
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even if they think it's
the wrong thing to do,
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because they can
relate on a human level
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to the difficult situations
that women who have abortions
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are often in involving poverty
and abuse and health problems,
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all kinds of stuff, having
other things that they really
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want to do in their
life, like hold a job,
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go to college, all that.
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So people are not as
evil as they seem.
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People are not as
evil as they seem.
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That's my mantra.
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WANDA SYKES: That's
a good mantra.
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I hope you're right.
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I hope you're right.
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[applause]
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But you mentioned poverty.
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Isn't that who it's going
to affect and hurt the most?
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Yes.
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This is so terrible, that
people don't know this.
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When I was on tour for my
book, I found the two most
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important things to tell
people that really, I think,
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do have power to affect
how people think is this.
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One is that about half the
women who have abortions
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are poor.
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They live at or below
the poverty level.
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And that shows you how
difficult their lives are.
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The other, which
is fascinating,
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is that 60% of women who have
abortions are already mothers.
512
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So there goes the
stereotype of, oh, she's
513
00:22:04,725 --> 00:22:06,527
just a young slut
out to have fun,
514
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or she's a child-hating
career woman.
515
00:22:09,129 --> 00:22:11,165
Those are the two
big stereotypes.
516
00:22:11,265 --> 00:22:13,500
But neither of them
are true, and you
517
00:22:13,601 --> 00:22:14,768
can explain that to people.
518
00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:18,405
Yeah, it's like, she has
kids and knows, I got enough.
519
00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:19,406
This is enough.
520
00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:20,474
Yeah, exactly.
521
00:22:20,574 --> 00:22:21,475
Yeah.
522
00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:23,944
Well, I think maybe
if they, like,
523
00:22:24,044 --> 00:22:31,051
create an abortion pill
that also maybe heals
524
00:22:32,486 --> 00:22:36,557
erectile dysfunction
or something, you know,
525
00:22:36,657 --> 00:22:37,992
make it a two-for-one--
KATHA POLLITT: Yeah, yeah.
526
00:22:38,092 --> 00:22:40,527
--a little something for you,
a little something for them,
527
00:22:40,628 --> 00:22:43,330
then the guys will
be happy about it.
528
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:45,633
You won't have any problem
getting access to it then.
529
00:22:45,733 --> 00:22:47,067
I think we need
a chemist who gets
530
00:22:47,167 --> 00:22:48,269
to work on that right away.
531
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WANDA SYKES: Exactly, exactly.
532
00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:51,805
Well, thank you so
much for being here.
533
00:22:51,906 --> 00:22:53,007
Thank you for having me.
534
00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:57,344
Pro-- Reclaiming Abortion
Rights is available now.
535
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OK, we're going to
take a quick break.
536
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We'll be right back after this.
537
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[cheering, applause]
538
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[cheering]
539
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That's our show for tonight.
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Now here it is,
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550
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fans know all too well.
551
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Fans of Taylor
Swift and Ticketmaster
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are never ever, ever
getting back together.
553
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Sounds like there could be
(SINGING) trouble, trouble.
554
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Ticketmaster-- you know, they
are trying to shake it off,
555
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but that is--
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REPORTER: Oh, oh.
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