1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:01,768 [theme music] 2 00:00:01,869 --> 00:00:04,438 ANNOUNCER: From New York City, the only city in America, 3 00:00:04,538 --> 00:00:06,974 it's the show that invented news. 4 00:00:07,074 --> 00:00:12,412 This is The Daily Show with your host, Wanda Sykes. 5 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:19,520 [cheering] 6 00:00:28,428 --> 00:00:31,331 Hey, what's going on, everybody? 7 00:00:31,431 --> 00:00:35,335 I'm Wanda Sykes, and I'm back-- 8 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:37,371 I'm Wanda Sykes, and I'm back for day 9 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:40,274 two of hosting The Daily Show. 10 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:43,076 I thought we covered all the news yesterday, but turns out 11 00:00:43,177 --> 00:00:44,077 there's more. 12 00:00:44,178 --> 00:00:46,480 So let's get to it. 13 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:51,485 [cheering] 14 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:55,189 Our first story, the 2023 Oscar nominations 15 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:56,190 were announced this morning. 16 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:57,191 Yeah. 17 00:00:57,291 --> 00:00:59,793 [cheering] 18 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:01,428 And if you're wondering how they picked 19 00:01:01,528 --> 00:01:04,531 the nominees this year, they basically just went, hmm, 20 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:05,532 let's see. 21 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:07,534 Who's not going to slap nobody? 22 00:01:07,634 --> 00:01:09,436 [laughter] 23 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:12,239 That's my pick. 24 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:15,509 Now, as usual, there was good news and bad news. 25 00:01:15,609 --> 00:01:19,313 Good news-- Michelle Yeoh became the first Asian woman 26 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:21,515 nominated for Best Actress. 27 00:01:21,615 --> 00:01:23,517 [cheering] 28 00:01:23,617 --> 00:01:27,688 But bad news-- no women were nominated for Best Director. 29 00:01:27,788 --> 00:01:29,089 [booing] 30 00:01:29,189 --> 00:01:33,093 Yeah, but, remember, they gave it to Jane Campion last year. 31 00:01:33,126 --> 00:01:35,095 So I guess this year they thought, 32 00:01:35,162 --> 00:01:40,234 eh, that should hold you broads for the next 50 years. 33 00:01:40,334 --> 00:01:43,136 And, personally, I'm a big Woody Harrelson fan. 34 00:01:43,237 --> 00:01:45,639 So I was happy to see some nominations 35 00:01:45,739 --> 00:01:47,174 for Triangle of Sadness. 36 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:48,175 Yeah. 37 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:52,613 [cheering] 38 00:01:52,713 --> 00:01:55,782 Which is not just a good movie, it's also what 39 00:01:55,883 --> 00:01:57,618 Mike Pence calls a vagina. 40 00:01:57,718 --> 00:02:04,625 [laughter] 41 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:07,928 But speaking of Mike Pence, guess what 42 00:02:08,061 --> 00:02:10,597 they just found at his house. 43 00:02:10,697 --> 00:02:14,301 Yes, classified documents. 44 00:02:14,401 --> 00:02:15,802 Yes, him too. 45 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:19,506 First Trump, then Biden, now Mike Pence. 46 00:02:19,606 --> 00:02:23,544 At some point, the FBI is just going to have to be like, OK, 47 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:27,414 I'm gonna close my eyes and count to 10. 48 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:30,617 And if there are classified documents on this table 49 00:02:30,717 --> 00:02:35,255 when I open them, no one gets in trouble. 50 00:02:35,355 --> 00:02:41,929 [applause] 51 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:45,566 All right, let's move on to news out of Washington, 52 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:49,636 to the biggest crisis the country is facing right now. 53 00:02:49,736 --> 00:02:52,105 Finally, there's something that Republicans and Democrats 54 00:02:52,206 --> 00:02:54,675 seem united on, and it's this, the Taylor 55 00:02:54,775 --> 00:02:56,443 Swift ticket fiasco. 56 00:02:56,543 --> 00:02:59,279 Today on Capitol Hill, senators held a hearing 57 00:02:59,379 --> 00:03:01,415 to examine the lack of competition 58 00:03:01,515 --> 00:03:02,816 in the ticketing industry. 59 00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:04,051 REPORTER: The bipartisan hearing 60 00:03:04,084 --> 00:03:06,320 comes in the wake of a technology breakdown 61 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:09,256 on the Ticketmaster website during the presale for Taylor 62 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:10,490 Swift's upcoming tour. 63 00:03:10,591 --> 00:03:14,061 Superfans known as Swifties faced hours-long wait 64 00:03:14,161 --> 00:03:15,863 times and website crashes. 65 00:03:15,963 --> 00:03:19,633 (CRYING) I just really wanted to see Taylor. 66 00:03:19,733 --> 00:03:21,702 I'm not getting tickets. 67 00:03:21,802 --> 00:03:25,172 [laughter] 68 00:03:25,272 --> 00:03:27,207 Shame on you, Ticketmaster. 69 00:03:27,307 --> 00:03:30,310 Look what you did to these emotional young people. 70 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:31,612 Hey, you know what? 71 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:34,214 It's about time someone held Ticketmaster accountable. 72 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:37,885 And the Swifties are the only ones who can get this done. 73 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:40,621 They're the most politically-organized group 74 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:42,556 in America. 75 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:46,894 Yeah, it goes Swifties, the Teamsters, 76 00:03:46,994 --> 00:03:50,531 and somewhere way all the way down the list 77 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:51,865 is the Democrats. 78 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:55,736 [laughter] 79 00:03:55,836 --> 00:03:57,905 These hearings are so popular. 80 00:03:58,005 --> 00:04:02,476 I bet Ticketmaster screwed up tickets to that too. 81 00:04:02,576 --> 00:04:04,878 You got kids outside crying. 82 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:09,850 [sobs] I'm the Senate's biggest fan. 83 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:16,723 I just wanted to see Dick Durbin! 84 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:21,795 But, ultimately, there's only one way to fix this problem-- 85 00:04:21,895 --> 00:04:24,331 get rid of online ticket sales. 86 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:28,135 Go back to waiting on line in person out in the cold. 87 00:04:28,235 --> 00:04:30,204 [cheering] 88 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:33,774 Make people earn that shit like we used to. 89 00:04:33,874 --> 00:04:36,310 You're not a real fan unless getting a ticket 90 00:04:36,410 --> 00:04:39,546 gave you hypothermia. 91 00:04:39,646 --> 00:04:44,318 Hey, I almost lost two toes just to see Johnny Gill. 92 00:04:44,418 --> 00:04:48,355 And I'd do it again, damn it. 93 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:51,758 And, finally, Ticketmaster isn't the only company that 94 00:04:51,859 --> 00:04:53,227 needs to make some changes. 95 00:04:53,327 --> 00:04:55,762 Down in Florida, Disney World is 96 00:04:55,863 --> 00:04:58,165 bringing one of its most popular rides 97 00:04:58,265 --> 00:04:59,867 into the present day. 98 00:05:00,033 --> 00:05:02,169 Well, a Disney ride that many people experienced 99 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:04,605 as a kid is no more. 100 00:05:04,705 --> 00:05:06,507 Disney World in Florida has officially 101 00:05:06,607 --> 00:05:08,041 closed Splash Mountain. 102 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:11,044 And Disneyland in California will be following suit. 103 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:12,546 Splash Mountain features characters 104 00:05:12,646 --> 00:05:16,550 from the 1946 Disney film Song of the South, 105 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,219 which critics say portrays racial stereotypes. 106 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,788 Splash Mountain will be turned into a new ride based 107 00:05:21,889 --> 00:05:25,125 on the 2009 animated film The Princess and the Frog, 108 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:30,130 which features Tiana, Disney's first Black princess. 109 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:31,465 Yeah, that's right. 110 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:34,201 Disney says it's going to get rid of "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" 111 00:05:34,301 --> 00:05:37,804 and turn it into a ride about The Princess and the Frog. 112 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:41,341 You know they're just going to keep the song, though, right? 113 00:05:41,441 --> 00:05:42,910 They're just going to change the lyrics. 114 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:44,811 (SINGING) She's a Black princess 115 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:48,815 unless she's a Black frog. 116 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:52,186 I mean, I appreciate the effort from Disney. 117 00:05:52,286 --> 00:05:54,588 But you're going to make the Black ride the one 118 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:56,089 where we get our hair wet. 119 00:05:56,156 --> 00:05:59,726 That's just more racist than before. 120 00:05:59,826 --> 00:06:01,495 So for more on this controversy, 121 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:06,300 we go to Roy Wood, Jr., who is live at Disney World. 122 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,470 [cheering] 123 00:06:10,571 --> 00:06:13,040 Yes, what's up, Wanda? 124 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:16,577 Roy, you're at ground zero of this controversy. 125 00:06:16,677 --> 00:06:18,846 How are people feeling about these changes? 126 00:06:18,946 --> 00:06:22,482 Oh, Wanda, these changes are long overdue. 127 00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:25,385 All that racism was ruining the simple pleasure 128 00:06:25,485 --> 00:06:27,454 of Splash Mountain, which is to fall 129 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:29,156 into a giant pool of piss. 130 00:06:29,256 --> 00:06:32,125 But if you ask me, this doesn't go far enough. 131 00:06:32,226 --> 00:06:35,062 We need Disney World to close more rides 132 00:06:35,162 --> 00:06:36,563 like them damn mad teacups. 133 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:39,066 Close them-- close them teacups. 134 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:40,133 Why? 135 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:41,869 Is that ride racist too? 136 00:06:41,969 --> 00:06:43,737 No, but when I was eight, I got on that ride 137 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:46,974 and threw up on my crush, ruined Stephanie's dress. 138 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:48,809 Reese's Pieces all over the place, everywhere. 139 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:50,077 You know that ride. 140 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:51,245 The teacup be spinning. 141 00:06:51,345 --> 00:06:52,713 I was like a vomit sprinkler. 142 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:55,415 [babbles] I'm sorry, Stephanie. 143 00:06:55,516 --> 00:06:56,783 I'm so sorry. 144 00:06:56,884 --> 00:07:00,721 Roy, Roy, nobody gives a shit about your digestive system. 145 00:07:00,821 --> 00:07:03,023 We're just glad Disney is trying to remove 146 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:05,259 racism from its parks. 147 00:07:05,359 --> 00:07:07,861 With all due respect, Wanda, I disagree. 148 00:07:08,028 --> 00:07:09,663 I don't think we should be removing 149 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,031 the racism from the rides. 150 00:07:11,064 --> 00:07:15,068 In fact, we should be adding racism. 151 00:07:15,169 --> 00:07:16,436 Why in the hell would we want to add 152 00:07:16,537 --> 00:07:18,138 racism into Disney World? 153 00:07:18,238 --> 00:07:20,741 Because Disney World might be the only place 154 00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:25,112 left in Florida where kids can learn about racism. 155 00:07:25,212 --> 00:07:26,580 It's a mad place. 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,516 [cheering] 157 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:32,286 You see what DeSantis is doing down here. 158 00:07:32,386 --> 00:07:34,721 DeSantis taking Black History out of the schools, 159 00:07:34,821 --> 00:07:36,256 cracking down on AP classes. 160 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:38,325 Pretty soon, he gonna ban the word Black. 161 00:07:38,425 --> 00:07:39,526 We're going to have to start saying 162 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:41,828 super gray or dark white or something. 163 00:07:41,929 --> 00:07:43,897 [laughter] 164 00:07:44,064 --> 00:07:45,566 I see what you're saying. 165 00:07:45,666 --> 00:07:48,135 The kids come in for the fun, and then we 166 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:49,469 sneak in the education. 167 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:50,871 Exactly, exactly. 168 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:52,639 That's what we do, sneak it in. 169 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:54,641 Like, you know those bumper cars 170 00:07:54,741 --> 00:07:55,742 they got in Tomorrow Land. 171 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:57,344 Tomorrow Land got them bumper cars, right? 172 00:07:57,444 --> 00:07:59,847 Add some cops in there pulling Black people over to teach 173 00:08:00,013 --> 00:08:02,316 the kids about traffic stops. 174 00:08:02,416 --> 00:08:04,151 What you mean I was driving recklessly, sir? 175 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:05,886 This is a bumper car. 176 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:07,688 And don't tell me my tail light was out. 177 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:09,289 There is no tail light. 178 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:10,290 Mama! 179 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:12,526 Mama! 180 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:13,527 Well, you know what? 181 00:08:13,627 --> 00:08:15,429 You might be on to something, Roy. 182 00:08:15,529 --> 00:08:18,098 I'm telling you, Wanda, we put a little racism 183 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:19,199 into these rides. 184 00:08:19,299 --> 00:08:21,768 The kids are going to learn. 185 00:08:21,869 --> 00:08:24,872 And you know how they do that parade down at Disney, 186 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:26,373 all the Disney characters. 187 00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:28,075 And that's fun for everybody. 188 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,277 Set the parade in Selma. 189 00:08:30,377 --> 00:08:33,046 Walk Mickey Mouse and them across that Edmund Pettus 190 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,048 Bridge with Buzz Lightyear on the other side, 191 00:08:35,082 --> 00:08:39,319 waiting to beat their asses to infinity and beyond. 192 00:08:39,419 --> 00:08:40,754 That's better than any textbook. 193 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:43,790 [applause] 194 00:08:43,891 --> 00:08:46,226 Damn, Roy, I mean, this is getting a little harsh, right? 195 00:08:46,326 --> 00:08:48,729 What they've done to us was harsh, Wanda! 196 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:50,864 I'm being fair. 197 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:51,865 Oh, how about this? 198 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:53,133 You know what? 199 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:55,636 You know they got Main Street USA down there, right? 200 00:08:55,736 --> 00:08:57,538 It's a beautiful collection of shops 201 00:08:57,638 --> 00:08:59,406 and successful businesses, and they're 202 00:08:59,506 --> 00:09:01,575 bustling and doing well. 203 00:09:01,675 --> 00:09:03,844 Uh-oh, I see where this is going. 204 00:09:04,011 --> 00:09:05,746 Bomb that shit just like they did 205 00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:07,881 Black Wall Street in Tulsa! 206 00:09:08,015 --> 00:09:11,919 People need to know the truth about this shit, Wanda. 207 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:13,887 I think bombing people is a bit 208 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:16,623 much for an amusement park. 209 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:18,325 You're entitled to your opinion. 210 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:22,029 Last idea-- best idea, Epcot Center-- 211 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:26,333 Epcot Center should be whites only. 212 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:27,768 What's that going to teach them? 213 00:09:27,868 --> 00:09:28,936 It won't teach them nothing. 214 00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:31,572 Epcot just boring as hell, and I don't want to go. 215 00:09:31,672 --> 00:09:34,141 It's just a big-ass golf ball with an elevator. 216 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:35,509 Listen, Wanda, I gotta roll. 217 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:37,578 I'm up next for the teacups, and I got something to prove. 218 00:09:37,678 --> 00:09:40,547 Stephanie, if you're watching this, my stomach is strong. 219 00:09:40,647 --> 00:09:41,648 I'm a man now. 220 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,650 I can eat this food and still ride the ride. 221 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,052 I won't vomit on you, Stephanie. 222 00:09:45,085 --> 00:09:46,620 Please, hit my DMs. Come on. 223 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,088 Good luck-- Shoot me a DM, Stephanie. 224 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:49,456 --with that, Roy. 225 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:52,059 Roy Wood, Jr., everybody. 226 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:53,594 All right, when we come back, we'll 227 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:55,796 find out what's going on with George 228 00:09:55,896 --> 00:09:57,898 Santos and his lying ass. 229 00:09:58,065 --> 00:09:59,399 So don't go away. 230 00:09:59,499 --> 00:10:03,136 [cheering] 231 00:10:08,575 --> 00:10:15,015 [cheering] 232 00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:22,189 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 233 00:10:22,289 --> 00:10:27,561 Tell you, it's been a bad week for George Santos, 234 00:10:27,661 --> 00:10:31,732 or as he calls it, a good week. 235 00:10:31,832 --> 00:10:34,067 He's already been caught, like, 50 lies. 236 00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:35,602 He lied about his career. 237 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:36,837 He lied about his name. 238 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:39,406 He lied about running a pet charity. 239 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:42,476 And now he's getting caught in a new lie. 240 00:10:42,576 --> 00:10:45,312 According to an ex-friend of George Santos's from Brazil, 241 00:10:45,412 --> 00:10:48,348 the openly gay New York Congressman used to perform 242 00:10:48,448 --> 00:10:50,884 in drag back in the day and even had his own drag 243 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,919 queen persona named Kitara. 244 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:55,355 REPORTER 1: Photos and video reveal that Santos performed 245 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:58,025 in drag several times over at least three years 246 00:10:58,125 --> 00:10:59,559 despite his claim that it was something 247 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:01,428 he did just once for fun. 248 00:11:01,528 --> 00:11:03,063 REPORTER 2: Congressman, were you 249 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:04,865 ever a drag queen in Brazil? 250 00:11:04,965 --> 00:11:08,168 [scoffs] No, I was not a drag queen in Brazil, guys. 251 00:11:08,201 --> 00:11:10,537 I was young, and I had fun at a festival. 252 00:11:10,637 --> 00:11:17,444 Sue me for having a life. 253 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,913 Sue me for having a life? 254 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:23,283 No, man, we should sue you for lying. 255 00:11:23,383 --> 00:11:28,188 [cheering] 256 00:11:28,221 --> 00:11:32,259 You know, but the drag queen part is pretty cool. 257 00:11:32,359 --> 00:11:33,493 I like Kitara. 258 00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:35,028 Kitara, you stay. 259 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,864 George Santos, sashay away. 260 00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:44,471 [cheering] 261 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:48,575 Now, with all these lies, it's no surprise that 59% of New 262 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:50,377 Yorkers want him to resign. 263 00:11:50,477 --> 00:11:52,646 But that does raise the question, 264 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:56,383 how could it only be 59%? 265 00:11:56,483 --> 00:11:59,686 Who are the people who don't want him to resign? 266 00:11:59,786 --> 00:12:04,625 Well, lucky for us, they just released an ad. 267 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:06,126 You've probably been hearing a lot 268 00:12:06,226 --> 00:12:09,262 in the media about our new Congressman, George Santos. 269 00:12:09,363 --> 00:12:11,965 But now it's time that you hear from us, 270 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:13,834 the people who voted for him. 271 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:15,569 We here in New York's third district 272 00:12:15,669 --> 00:12:18,438 voted for Congressman Santos because he's a fighter-- 273 00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:21,475 and not just as a politician, but as a boxer 274 00:12:21,575 --> 00:12:23,577 who beat Muhammad Ali in 1972. 275 00:12:23,677 --> 00:12:24,578 A great fight. 276 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:26,647 Come on, Tommy! 277 00:12:26,747 --> 00:12:29,049 I stand with George Santos because when 278 00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:31,084 my apartment building was collapsing, 279 00:12:31,184 --> 00:12:32,619 he held it up with one arm. 280 00:12:32,719 --> 00:12:34,554 I support George Santos because, simply 281 00:12:34,655 --> 00:12:36,723 put, he's a war hero. 282 00:12:36,823 --> 00:12:37,991 Also invented the window. 283 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:40,594 I'm voting for Santos because he cares about seniors. 284 00:12:40,694 --> 00:12:43,797 And as an 87-year-old woman, that's important to me. 285 00:12:43,897 --> 00:12:45,232 I stand with the brother George Santos 286 00:12:45,332 --> 00:12:46,900 because he invented the cure for COVID. 287 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,935 Just wish he had done it before I died from it. 288 00:12:49,036 --> 00:12:50,370 I stand with Santos. 289 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:54,207 Yup, even me, Academy Award winner Morgan Freeman. 290 00:12:54,241 --> 00:12:55,909 As a Christian woman who's never 291 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:58,578 had sex because I'm saving myself for marriage, 292 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,548 I know George Santos shares my values. 293 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:03,750 Why do I support George Santos? 294 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:06,987 Because we're both proudly Jewish. 295 00:13:07,087 --> 00:13:08,956 Jew-ish. 296 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:10,924 I stand with George Santos. 297 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:14,628 Now watch me eat this meatball sandwich. 298 00:13:14,728 --> 00:13:15,729 Mm. 299 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:19,066 I stand with George Santos, who's-- who's 300 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:20,634 Anthony Devolder. 301 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:23,937 I stand with Anthony Santos Devolder. 302 00:13:24,037 --> 00:13:25,806 D-- George Santos-- 303 00:13:25,906 --> 00:13:28,275 I stand with George Santos. 304 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:31,044 I stand with George Costanza. 305 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:32,713 Anthony DeVito? 306 00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:33,714 George Michael. 307 00:13:33,814 --> 00:13:35,415 John Stamos. 308 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:37,284 Whatever his name may be, I-- 309 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:38,719 I'm with h-- I'm with her. I'm with him. 310 00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:40,220 Can I call him Rick? I want to say Rick. 311 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,221 I stand with Rick. 312 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:42,990 Y'all know who he is. 313 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,191 ANNOUNCER: Paid for with money you 314 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:45,892 sent to a dying dog probably. 315 00:13:45,993 --> 00:13:48,228 [cheering] 316 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,964 All right, stay tuned because when we come back, 317 00:13:51,064 --> 00:13:53,200 the renowned feminist Katha Pollitt will 318 00:13:53,266 --> 00:13:54,501 be joining me on the show. 319 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:55,702 So don't go away. 320 00:13:55,802 --> 00:13:59,206 [cheering] 321 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:10,417 [applause, cheering] 322 00:14:10,517 --> 00:14:13,787 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 323 00:14:13,888 --> 00:14:16,590 My guest tonight is an award-winning columnist 324 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:17,791 for The Nation. 325 00:14:17,892 --> 00:14:20,394 She's written a number of books, including Pro-- 326 00:14:20,494 --> 00:14:22,062 Reclaiming Abortion Rights. 327 00:14:22,162 --> 00:14:24,665 She's here to talk about abortion politics and 328 00:14:24,765 --> 00:14:25,933 the fight for women's rights. 329 00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:27,968 Please welcome Katha Pollitt. 330 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:34,441 [applause, cheering] 331 00:14:35,442 --> 00:14:36,343 Hi. 332 00:14:36,443 --> 00:14:37,344 Hi. 333 00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:44,451 You look good. 334 00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:49,056 Thank you so much for being here. 335 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:50,591 Oh, thank you so much for having me, Wanda. 336 00:14:50,691 --> 00:14:51,892 Appreciate it. 337 00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:56,230 So you've been an abortion rights advocate for decades. 338 00:14:56,330 --> 00:15:00,634 And it seems like we keep having this same debate 339 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:02,303 for, like, over 50 years. 340 00:15:02,403 --> 00:15:05,072 So how has-- has it changed any? 341 00:15:05,172 --> 00:15:07,341 Or is it the same conversation? 342 00:15:07,441 --> 00:15:09,143 That question makes me feel very old. 343 00:15:09,243 --> 00:15:13,013 [laughs] But I think the conversation 344 00:15:13,113 --> 00:15:15,649 has been stuck in several ways. 345 00:15:15,749 --> 00:15:18,886 And one way I want to mention is that a lot of people 346 00:15:18,986 --> 00:15:22,756 have voted anti-abortion legislation because they 347 00:15:22,856 --> 00:15:24,658 thought it would never happen. 348 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,627 So they would vote in state legislatures 349 00:15:26,727 --> 00:15:31,131 for these wild things, thinking, well, Roe is there, 350 00:15:31,232 --> 00:15:32,600 it's not going to be so crazy. 351 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:34,001 But now it is. 352 00:15:34,101 --> 00:15:37,238 So they're thinking, oh, my God, what have I done? 353 00:15:37,338 --> 00:15:39,273 At least some of them are. 354 00:15:39,373 --> 00:15:43,143 But I think the other thing is that Dobbs, which-- 355 00:15:43,244 --> 00:15:49,783 which overthrew Roe, has woken up pro-choicers in the most-- 356 00:15:49,884 --> 00:15:51,552 and women who maybe didn't know they 357 00:15:51,652 --> 00:15:53,721 were pro-choice in the most amazing way. 358 00:15:53,821 --> 00:15:59,493 [cheering, applause] 359 00:15:59,593 --> 00:16:01,996 It was very important in the last election 360 00:16:02,096 --> 00:16:05,499 in several races. 361 00:16:05,599 --> 00:16:08,903 And abortion rights won in election. 362 00:16:09,003 --> 00:16:09,904 Yes, it did. 363 00:16:10,004 --> 00:16:12,806 [cheering, applause] 364 00:16:12,907 --> 00:16:17,244 And what's-- what's especially interesting is that there were 365 00:16:17,344 --> 00:16:20,247 six states in which there was anti-abortion 366 00:16:20,347 --> 00:16:22,049 stuff on the ballot. 367 00:16:22,149 --> 00:16:25,152 It went down in every case, including in Kansas-- 368 00:16:25,252 --> 00:16:27,454 [cheering, applause] 369 00:16:27,521 --> 00:16:31,492 --in very, very red Kansas and very, very red Kentucky. 370 00:16:31,592 --> 00:16:32,893 So that tells you something. 371 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:34,728 It tells you people aren't really down 372 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:36,697 with the idea of banning all abortion 373 00:16:36,797 --> 00:16:37,932 and making women suffer. 374 00:16:38,032 --> 00:16:38,933 OK. 375 00:16:39,033 --> 00:16:39,934 But that's-- 376 00:16:40,034 --> 00:16:42,469 [applause] 377 00:16:42,503 --> 00:16:44,805 It's interesting what you said at first. 378 00:16:44,905 --> 00:16:47,474 It's like, they didn't really want it to happen at first. 379 00:16:47,575 --> 00:16:49,276 It was just kind of like performative. 380 00:16:49,376 --> 00:16:51,679 It was just like, hey, let's put this out there, 381 00:16:51,779 --> 00:16:54,481 and it'll draw the other people in to vote for us 382 00:16:54,582 --> 00:16:57,651 so we can pass more things that's, like, about taxes 383 00:16:57,751 --> 00:16:59,253 and stuff. KATHA POLLITT: Exactly. 384 00:16:59,353 --> 00:17:00,487 - Right? - Exactly. 385 00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:03,991 It is-- it's like a signal that, you know, 386 00:17:04,091 --> 00:17:06,427 I'm a good Christian. 387 00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:10,798 But in real life, it served other purposes as well 388 00:17:10,898 --> 00:17:14,068 of just being very, very reactionary 389 00:17:14,168 --> 00:17:15,236 on a whole range of issues. 390 00:17:15,336 --> 00:17:16,237 OK. 391 00:17:16,337 --> 00:17:19,940 And now the terminology that they use, 392 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,742 it's like scare tactics. 393 00:17:21,842 --> 00:17:23,944 Like, you know, like partial birth 394 00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:27,581 abortion and abortion doctors. 395 00:17:27,681 --> 00:17:29,650 Like, no one goes to college and go, you know, 396 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:30,651 what you going to be? 397 00:17:30,751 --> 00:17:31,719 I'm going to be a cardiologist. 398 00:17:31,819 --> 00:17:33,020 What you doing? 399 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,521 Ooh, I don't know, I think I'm going to work with feet. 400 00:17:34,622 --> 00:17:35,789 What about you? 401 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:37,992 Abortions, that's all that I'm doing, just abortions. 402 00:17:38,092 --> 00:17:41,462 I mean, there's no such thing as, like, an abortion doctor. 403 00:17:41,528 --> 00:17:42,463 Well, they used to-- 404 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:43,731 they used to call them abortionists. 405 00:17:43,831 --> 00:17:44,798 OK. 406 00:17:44,899 --> 00:17:46,634 So that's, like, really not a real doctor. 407 00:17:46,734 --> 00:17:48,002 You don't want to go to an abortionist. 408 00:17:48,102 --> 00:17:49,003 WANDA SYKES: Right. 409 00:17:49,103 --> 00:17:52,206 Abortion doctor is a demeaning term. 410 00:17:52,306 --> 00:17:56,176 OBGYN is a good term. 411 00:17:56,277 --> 00:17:57,578 Providing care for women-- 412 00:17:57,678 --> 00:17:58,812 WANDA SYKES: That's an even better term. 413 00:17:58,913 --> 00:17:59,813 --that's a good way to put it. 414 00:17:59,914 --> 00:18:00,814 WANDA SYKES: Right. 415 00:18:00,915 --> 00:18:02,650 [applause] 416 00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:07,321 And it's all intended to make it seem as though abortion 417 00:18:07,421 --> 00:18:08,656 is not part of health care. 418 00:18:08,756 --> 00:18:11,792 And the very important thing that everybody 419 00:18:11,892 --> 00:18:15,329 has to think about is abortion is part of health care. 420 00:18:15,429 --> 00:18:18,132 [cheering, applause] 421 00:18:18,232 --> 00:18:20,501 Absolutely. 422 00:18:20,601 --> 00:18:22,436 Now, I'm glad you're saying that-- 423 00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:26,440 to hear that young women are active and they're voting 424 00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:29,343 because we need them, because the House Majority Leader 425 00:18:29,443 --> 00:18:33,447 Steve Scalise said that "Roe's reversal"-- 426 00:18:33,514 --> 00:18:34,715 and this is a quote-- he said, "Only 427 00:18:34,815 --> 00:18:36,750 the first phase in the battle. 428 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:38,452 Now the next phase begins." 429 00:18:38,552 --> 00:18:41,088 Like, what is that next phase? 430 00:18:41,188 --> 00:18:42,923 What do you think that means? 431 00:18:43,023 --> 00:18:44,191 I think it means contraception, 432 00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:45,459 going after contraception-- 433 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:46,727 [audience muttering] 434 00:18:46,827 --> 00:18:50,264 --that there are right-to-lifers who believe 435 00:18:50,364 --> 00:18:52,833 that the birth control pill is what they 436 00:18:52,933 --> 00:18:55,369 call a "chemical abortion." 437 00:18:55,469 --> 00:18:58,172 They think the morning-after pill, which you can-- 438 00:18:58,272 --> 00:19:00,774 which you take to prevent a pregnancy, 439 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:02,109 is actually an abortion. 440 00:19:02,209 --> 00:19:04,178 They think the IUD is an abortion. 441 00:19:04,278 --> 00:19:05,279 It's like, it's in there. 442 00:19:05,412 --> 00:19:07,114 It's performing abortions every day. 443 00:19:07,214 --> 00:19:09,783 [laughter] 444 00:19:09,884 --> 00:19:13,287 They have their own-- they have their own facts. 445 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:17,157 And I think that we're already seeing that contraception, 446 00:19:17,258 --> 00:19:18,993 which should be part of the-- 447 00:19:19,093 --> 00:19:20,794 if you're against abortion, you should 448 00:19:20,895 --> 00:19:23,731 be in favor of contraception because that will prevent. 449 00:19:23,831 --> 00:19:24,732 WANDA SYKES: Right. 450 00:19:24,832 --> 00:19:27,768 [applause] 451 00:19:27,868 --> 00:19:29,703 But we're already seeing moves to make 452 00:19:29,803 --> 00:19:31,505 contraception harder to get. 453 00:19:31,605 --> 00:19:35,342 So these-- they have no idea how a woman's body works. 454 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:36,343 That's so true. 455 00:19:36,443 --> 00:19:37,444 Science. 456 00:19:37,478 --> 00:19:38,913 That's so true. 457 00:19:39,013 --> 00:19:44,218 There was recently a state legislator in a very red state 458 00:19:44,318 --> 00:19:48,622 of Idaho or Utah, I think, and he said, I raise cattle, 459 00:19:48,722 --> 00:19:50,558 I know all about what goes on. 460 00:19:50,658 --> 00:19:52,693 I've walked behind cows. 461 00:19:52,793 --> 00:19:55,095 And I'm thinking, so you've looked up a cow's behind, 462 00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:57,064 and you think you understand what happens with women. 463 00:19:57,164 --> 00:19:58,566 I mean, how crazy is that? 464 00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:00,834 [laughter] 465 00:20:00,935 --> 00:20:02,369 - Ugh! - I know. 466 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:03,737 - That's terrifying. - It's terrifying. 467 00:20:03,837 --> 00:20:04,738 It is. 468 00:20:04,838 --> 00:20:05,906 It is. 469 00:20:06,006 --> 00:20:10,911 So-- and it's such a polarizing issue. 470 00:20:11,011 --> 00:20:13,514 How do we change minds? 471 00:20:13,614 --> 00:20:16,016 How do we sway them? 472 00:20:16,116 --> 00:20:17,751 Or is it education? 473 00:20:17,851 --> 00:20:20,721 Or is it like a personal experience? 474 00:20:20,821 --> 00:20:21,722 What is it? 475 00:20:21,822 --> 00:20:23,424 Well, I think it's all those things. 476 00:20:23,457 --> 00:20:26,493 I think personal experience, if people know 477 00:20:26,594 --> 00:20:28,262 someone who's had an abortion, they 478 00:20:28,429 --> 00:20:29,430 start to think differently. 479 00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:31,498 And there's actually a sociological study 480 00:20:31,599 --> 00:20:35,469 that shows this by a sociologist named Sarah Cowan, 481 00:20:35,569 --> 00:20:40,140 who found out that even very, very anti-abortion people, 482 00:20:40,241 --> 00:20:43,811 if it's someone in their family, if it's a friend, 483 00:20:43,911 --> 00:20:46,680 they'll be kind a lot of the time. 484 00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:49,250 They might even drive that person to the clinic, 485 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:50,985 even if they think it's the wrong thing to do, 486 00:20:51,085 --> 00:20:52,987 because they can relate on a human level 487 00:20:53,087 --> 00:20:56,724 to the difficult situations that women who have abortions 488 00:20:56,824 --> 00:21:00,995 are often in involving poverty and abuse and health problems, 489 00:21:01,095 --> 00:21:03,364 all kinds of stuff, having other things that they really 490 00:21:03,464 --> 00:21:06,300 want to do in their life, like hold a job, 491 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,202 go to college, all that. 492 00:21:08,302 --> 00:21:12,406 So people are not as evil as they seem. 493 00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:13,874 People are not as evil as they seem. 494 00:21:13,974 --> 00:21:15,910 That's my mantra. 495 00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:17,645 WANDA SYKES: That's a good mantra. 496 00:21:17,745 --> 00:21:19,113 I hope you're right. 497 00:21:19,213 --> 00:21:20,114 I hope you're right. 498 00:21:20,214 --> 00:21:22,516 [applause] 499 00:21:22,616 --> 00:21:24,718 But you mentioned poverty. 500 00:21:24,818 --> 00:21:28,455 Isn't that who it's going to affect and hurt the most? 501 00:21:28,556 --> 00:21:29,657 Yes. 502 00:21:29,757 --> 00:21:32,860 This is so terrible, that people don't know this. 503 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,864 When I was on tour for my book, I found the two most 504 00:21:36,964 --> 00:21:39,533 important things to tell people that really, I think, 505 00:21:39,633 --> 00:21:42,436 do have power to affect how people think is this. 506 00:21:42,536 --> 00:21:47,775 One is that about half the women who have abortions 507 00:21:47,875 --> 00:21:49,476 are poor. 508 00:21:49,577 --> 00:21:51,979 They live at or below the poverty level. 509 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:54,448 And that shows you how difficult their lives are. 510 00:21:54,548 --> 00:21:56,317 The other, which is fascinating, 511 00:21:56,450 --> 00:22:01,689 is that 60% of women who have abortions are already mothers. 512 00:22:01,789 --> 00:22:04,625 So there goes the stereotype of, oh, she's 513 00:22:04,725 --> 00:22:06,527 just a young slut out to have fun, 514 00:22:06,627 --> 00:22:09,029 or she's a child-hating career woman. 515 00:22:09,129 --> 00:22:11,165 Those are the two big stereotypes. 516 00:22:11,265 --> 00:22:13,500 But neither of them are true, and you 517 00:22:13,601 --> 00:22:14,768 can explain that to people. 518 00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:18,405 Yeah, it's like, she has kids and knows, I got enough. 519 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:19,406 This is enough. 520 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:20,474 Yeah, exactly. 521 00:22:20,574 --> 00:22:21,475 Yeah. 522 00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:23,944 Well, I think maybe if they, like, 523 00:22:24,044 --> 00:22:31,051 create an abortion pill that also maybe heals 524 00:22:32,486 --> 00:22:36,557 erectile dysfunction or something, you know, 525 00:22:36,657 --> 00:22:37,992 make it a two-for-one-- KATHA POLLITT: Yeah, yeah. 526 00:22:38,092 --> 00:22:40,527 --a little something for you, a little something for them, 527 00:22:40,628 --> 00:22:43,330 then the guys will be happy about it. 528 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:45,633 You won't have any problem getting access to it then. 529 00:22:45,733 --> 00:22:47,067 I think we need a chemist who gets 530 00:22:47,167 --> 00:22:48,269 to work on that right away. 531 00:22:48,435 --> 00:22:49,436 WANDA SYKES: Exactly, exactly. 532 00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:51,805 Well, thank you so much for being here. 533 00:22:51,906 --> 00:22:53,007 Thank you for having me. 534 00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:57,344 Pro-- Reclaiming Abortion Rights is available now. 535 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:59,613 OK, we're going to take a quick break. 536 00:22:59,713 --> 00:23:01,282 We'll be right back after this. 537 00:23:01,448 --> 00:23:05,386 [cheering, applause] 538 00:23:07,459 --> 00:23:13,899 [cheering] 539 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:16,168 That's our show for tonight. 540 00:23:16,268 --> 00:23:18,604 But before we go, please, consider supporting 541 00:23:18,704 --> 00:23:20,439 Ruth Ellis Center in Detroit. 542 00:23:20,539 --> 00:23:23,542 They have been serving LGBTQ+ young 543 00:23:23,642 --> 00:23:25,377 people experiencing homelessness 544 00:23:25,477 --> 00:23:27,212 for more than two decades. 545 00:23:27,312 --> 00:23:31,216 They currently provide housing, health care, a food pantry, 546 00:23:31,316 --> 00:23:32,985 a drop-in center, and more. 547 00:23:33,085 --> 00:23:35,787 If you can, please, support them in their work 548 00:23:35,888 --> 00:23:36,989 at the link below. 549 00:23:37,089 --> 00:23:40,459 Now here it is, your Moment of Zen. 550 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,729 It is a story Taylor Swift fans know all too well. 551 00:23:43,829 --> 00:23:46,231 Fans of Taylor Swift and Ticketmaster 552 00:23:46,331 --> 00:23:49,234 are never ever, ever getting back together. 553 00:23:49,334 --> 00:23:51,503 Sounds like there could be (SINGING) trouble, trouble. 554 00:23:51,603 --> 00:23:53,872 Ticketmaster-- you know, they are trying to shake it off, 555 00:23:53,972 --> 00:23:54,873 but that is-- 556 00:23:54,973 --> 00:23:56,408 REPORTER: Oh, oh. 557 00:23:56,508 --> 00:23:57,876 ANNOUNCER: MTV.