1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:01,602 [theme music] 2 00:00:01,702 --> 00:00:04,571 From New York City, the only city in America, 3 00:00:04,671 --> 00:00:07,508 it's the show that invented news. 4 00:00:07,608 --> 00:00:12,145 This is The Daily Show with your host, DL Hughley. 5 00:00:12,246 --> 00:00:14,114 [applause] 6 00:00:14,214 --> 00:00:21,221 [cheering] 7 00:00:29,863 --> 00:00:32,566 Hey, everybody, how you guys doing? 8 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:34,501 [cheering] 9 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:36,203 Good to see you, good to see you. 10 00:00:36,303 --> 00:00:43,277 Well, I, I'm DL Hughley, and welcome to The Daily Show. 11 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,980 Of course, between me and Leslie and Wanda, 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,552 this is starting to look a lot like BET, I tell you that. 13 00:00:51,652 --> 00:00:53,820 Do not be shocked if you see those diabetes commercials, 14 00:00:53,921 --> 00:00:54,888 you know. 15 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:59,560 (SINGING) Oh, oh, oh, oh, Ozempic. 16 00:00:59,660 --> 00:01:01,495 Black people love that song. 17 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,463 You could have one foot and you still dance to that song, 18 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:06,834 we don't even care. 19 00:01:06,934 --> 00:01:09,770 All right, of course, we have a lot 20 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:11,071 that we need to talk about. 21 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:14,241 So we're going to get right to it. 22 00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:16,143 So I'm sure many of you heard by now 23 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:18,579 that a young Black man in Memphis 24 00:01:18,679 --> 00:01:19,913 was pulled over by the police. 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,150 And we all saw how it went down. 26 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:26,119 For the first time, we are seeing the violent arrest 27 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:27,454 of Tyre Nichols. 28 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:30,157 What began as a traffic stop-- 29 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:32,426 [overlapping speech] 30 00:01:32,526 --> 00:01:35,162 --quickly turned violent, as captured 31 00:01:35,262 --> 00:01:37,231 on multiple videos released tonight 32 00:01:37,331 --> 00:01:39,099 by the city of Memphis. 33 00:01:39,166 --> 00:01:41,502 Officers are seen pulling Nichols out of the car. 34 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:43,303 [overlapping speech] 35 00:01:43,403 --> 00:01:45,606 They use pepper spray and deploy a taser 36 00:01:45,706 --> 00:01:46,707 during a struggle. 37 00:01:46,807 --> 00:01:49,376 Then for roughly three minutes, officers 38 00:01:49,476 --> 00:01:52,379 are seen repeatedly kicking and punching Nichols 39 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:53,914 while he was handcuffed. 40 00:01:54,014 --> 00:01:56,984 As Nichols lay on the ground, bloodied and bruised, 41 00:01:57,117 --> 00:02:00,120 several minutes go by without any of the officers 42 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:02,089 administering first aid. 43 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:05,058 Nichols died in the hospital three days later. 44 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:06,593 Is it a shocking video? 45 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:08,562 Yes. 46 00:02:08,662 --> 00:02:10,063 Shocking. 47 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,432 You know who wasn't shocked by that? 48 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,668 Black people. 49 00:02:14,768 --> 00:02:17,070 I know, we were like, we were not, like, 50 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:19,072 it just, like I think that is a word we should throw out 51 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,141 of our lexicon, because the one thing we were not, 52 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:22,809 you didn't see Black people sitting around, 53 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:24,178 can you believe they beat the shit 54 00:02:24,278 --> 00:02:25,846 out of another nigger on TV? 55 00:02:25,946 --> 00:02:27,181 Can you believe that? 56 00:02:27,281 --> 00:02:29,583 Because it's pretty commonplace for us. 57 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:31,185 The only people who are probably shocked by this 58 00:02:31,285 --> 00:02:32,686 are people who haven't been paying attention. 59 00:02:32,786 --> 00:02:35,489 But for us, that's just like a flashback. 60 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:40,093 So those videos are like so commonplace, 61 00:02:40,194 --> 00:02:41,528 it's hard to be shocked. 62 00:02:41,628 --> 00:02:43,330 That's like watching a porno and saying, 63 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:48,001 he's going to stick that where? 64 00:02:48,101 --> 00:02:53,373 Ain't no way in hell that's going to fit. 65 00:02:53,473 --> 00:02:54,975 I mean, I don't know, I'm just making a point. 66 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:57,978 I don't watch porno. 67 00:02:58,111 --> 00:03:01,915 Let's stick with the story, all right? 68 00:03:02,049 --> 00:03:03,483 It is not shocking to Black people, 69 00:03:03,584 --> 00:03:06,687 because that is probably every Black parent's nightmare. 70 00:03:06,787 --> 00:03:09,323 It's like, that's why we train our children 71 00:03:09,423 --> 00:03:10,624 to deal with police. 72 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:13,126 We act like they going on safari or something. 73 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:16,063 They like, don't make a sudden noise, 74 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:18,832 don't make any sudden moves, don't smile, don't run. 75 00:03:18,932 --> 00:03:21,068 So you can't be shocked when the media, 76 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:23,637 also the media spend a whole week 77 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:24,738 prepping us for the video. 78 00:03:24,838 --> 00:03:26,907 They told us how violent it was going to be. 79 00:03:27,074 --> 00:03:33,747 To be real, that video got more pro than I did for this show. 80 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:40,087 Like, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't 81 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:41,855 seen a TV show that anticipated since the remake 82 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:42,856 of Night Court. 83 00:03:42,956 --> 00:03:44,992 They wasn't playing around. 84 00:03:45,092 --> 00:03:47,327 It was like they were rolling out a new movie release. 85 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:49,796 Brought to you from the people that brought you 86 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:53,800 George Floyd and Rodney King. 87 00:03:53,901 --> 00:03:56,803 Um, I can tell you what I did find shocking, 88 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:59,139 was how fast those cops got arrested. 89 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,140 Yeah! 90 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:06,947 Nam damn. 91 00:04:07,948 --> 00:04:08,949 They got arrested so fast, they didn't 92 00:04:09,049 --> 00:04:14,788 even give us time to riot. 93 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:17,057 Like, I'm like nam, damn, what am I going 94 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:18,225 to do with all this gasoline? 95 00:04:18,325 --> 00:04:22,529 I got to pour it back in the lawnmower. 96 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:25,832 Because usually, it takes a considerable amount of time. 97 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:28,735 More like usually when they tell us a cop got indicted, 98 00:04:28,836 --> 00:04:32,739 a reporter's wiping tear gas out of her eyes, so it's. 99 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,075 And it's just interesting, because they 100 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:36,677 did get arrested fast. 101 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:40,614 And I just, these cops got arrested so fast, 102 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:47,721 I got to wonder, why did, oh, there's something about them. 103 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:53,594 That looks fast, arrest-worthy. 104 00:04:53,694 --> 00:05:00,501 Like I can't put my finger on it, 105 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:03,303 but I want to arrest them myself. 106 00:05:03,403 --> 00:05:04,438 I don't. 107 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:10,644 [applause] 108 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:12,746 I don't know. 109 00:05:12,846 --> 00:05:14,147 Maybe they get their hair cut at the same place, 110 00:05:14,248 --> 00:05:16,149 I don't know. 111 00:05:16,250 --> 00:05:17,451 I can tell you what did scare me, 112 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:19,720 is that no one could tell us what Tyre could have done 113 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:21,221 to stop this from happening. 114 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:25,058 I mean, usually, you hear people saying, 115 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,426 he should have followed orders. 116 00:05:26,527 --> 00:05:29,429 But they gave him 71 different orders in 13 minutes, 117 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:32,199 so not even Wendy's can turn the order around that God 118 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:35,169 damn fast. 119 00:05:35,269 --> 00:05:37,771 And then they gave orders that didn't make any sense, 120 00:05:37,871 --> 00:05:39,673 like telling him get on the ground 121 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,275 when he was already on the ground. 122 00:05:41,375 --> 00:05:42,776 Like, I don't know how they do it in Memphis, 123 00:05:42,876 --> 00:05:44,845 but where I'm from, the ground is as low as you can go, 124 00:05:44,945 --> 00:05:47,114 that's it. 125 00:05:47,214 --> 00:05:49,082 But you know, it is a complex issue. 126 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:51,585 And I know it helps me whenever I'm 127 00:05:51,685 --> 00:05:55,155 delving into a complex issue that affects Black people 128 00:05:55,255 --> 00:05:57,824 and I want an expert opinion, what I do 129 00:05:57,925 --> 00:06:03,430 is, I turn to Fox News. 130 00:06:03,530 --> 00:06:04,765 I do. 131 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:09,136 That's, I learned how to make gumbo watching that show, 132 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:13,407 too, so it's. 133 00:06:13,507 --> 00:06:16,410 It's the reason that I found out 134 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,812 why cops do bad things in the first place, 135 00:06:18,912 --> 00:06:22,816 and it's apparently because people are so mean to them. 136 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:24,852 This is a direct result of all this defund 137 00:06:24,952 --> 00:06:26,053 the police stuff, right? 138 00:06:26,086 --> 00:06:28,522 And if you vilify the cops, you'll get less 139 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:29,790 people wanting to be cops. 140 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:32,226 These endless wars on police departments now. 141 00:06:32,326 --> 00:06:34,194 They have dissuaded a lot of good people 142 00:06:34,294 --> 00:06:35,896 from becoming police officers. 143 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:37,598 That's a fact. 144 00:06:37,698 --> 00:06:39,199 They've had recruitment problems 145 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:40,434 and they've had retention problems. 146 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:43,871 You can look at the data like I can. 147 00:06:43,971 --> 00:06:45,272 And what happens is, you wind up 148 00:06:45,372 --> 00:06:50,611 getting stuck, plain and simple, with just bad guys. 149 00:06:50,711 --> 00:06:51,745 Hmm. 150 00:06:51,845 --> 00:06:53,180 You would think he got his ass whooped, right? 151 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,783 Like, he-- But the great thing about it 152 00:06:56,884 --> 00:06:59,786 is, I got a guy from Fox to say they are bad cops. 153 00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:04,358 I got him to agree with Antifa, see? 154 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:06,493 I been here one day and I'm changing shit already, 155 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:09,096 it's going great. 156 00:07:09,196 --> 00:07:11,698 But there is one guy on Fox News, 157 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:13,667 and this dude came up with something 158 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:17,171 that I got to tell you, I really did not see it coming. 159 00:07:17,271 --> 00:07:19,039 Looked like gang violence to me. 160 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:23,043 It looked like what young Black men do when they're supervised 161 00:07:23,076 --> 00:07:24,711 by a single Black woman. 162 00:07:24,811 --> 00:07:27,214 And that's what they got going on in the Memphis 163 00:07:27,314 --> 00:07:28,348 Police Department. 164 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:31,185 They've elected some, or put some Black woman 165 00:07:31,285 --> 00:07:33,053 in charge of the police force, and we're 166 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:36,757 getting the same kind of chaos and disunity and violence 167 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:38,659 that we see in a lot of these cities that 168 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:45,766 are run by single mothers. 169 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:53,674 What the [bleep] is he talking about? 170 00:07:53,774 --> 00:07:54,675 What? 171 00:07:54,775 --> 00:07:59,546 What is he? 172 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:03,150 So, it is single Black mothers that are the problem. 173 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:04,852 So, wait a minute. 174 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:08,622 All of these cops, all of them, they 175 00:08:08,722 --> 00:08:13,493 had single Black mothers, too? 176 00:08:13,594 --> 00:08:15,596 And by the way, those are the images that came 177 00:08:15,696 --> 00:08:22,669 up when I Googled good cops. 178 00:08:23,737 --> 00:08:25,873 If Jason Whitlock proves anything, 179 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:28,442 it's that you do not have to be white to hate Black people. 180 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:29,610 Right. 181 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:31,478 Um, and I can understand. 182 00:08:31,578 --> 00:08:35,148 How can we expect Jason to see the plight of Black people 183 00:08:35,249 --> 00:08:39,887 when this dude can't even see his own dick, so? 184 00:08:40,053 --> 00:08:46,927 [applause] 185 00:08:48,061 --> 00:08:49,162 I'm DL Hughley, you knew I was going to do 186 00:08:49,263 --> 00:08:50,531 a dick joke on Comedy Central. 187 00:08:50,631 --> 00:08:53,066 Stop it, stop it. 188 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:54,401 All right, for more on this story, 189 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:58,172 I'm going to be joined by Roy Wood Jr. What can you-- 190 00:08:58,272 --> 00:08:59,673 [cheering] 191 00:08:59,773 --> 00:09:00,674 Hello. 192 00:09:00,774 --> 00:09:03,043 [laughs] 193 00:09:03,143 --> 00:09:07,214 You just, you just take, just disagree with the man. 194 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:12,186 You didn't have to break his dick and then come to me. 195 00:09:12,286 --> 00:09:13,153 I'm sorry. 196 00:09:13,253 --> 00:09:14,688 Let's not let a dick come between us. 197 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:18,825 It's crazy. 198 00:09:18,926 --> 00:09:20,928 What can you tell me about the police officers 199 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:22,829 that committed this attack? 200 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:25,165 Here's the thing, DL, first and foremost, they're 201 00:09:25,265 --> 00:09:26,900 not just any police officers. 202 00:09:27,034 --> 00:09:29,336 They were actually part of an elite unit 203 00:09:29,436 --> 00:09:32,139 within the department with a special focus 204 00:09:32,239 --> 00:09:34,508 on violent crime. 205 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:35,509 Elite unit. 206 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:36,543 That was elite? 207 00:09:36,643 --> 00:09:37,945 Yeah, yeah, it was elite. 208 00:09:38,045 --> 00:09:39,046 It was elite. 209 00:09:39,146 --> 00:09:40,948 And the whole idea of an elite unit, it's 210 00:09:41,048 --> 00:09:42,216 already kind of weird, right? 211 00:09:42,316 --> 00:09:45,552 Like shouldn't the whole police force already be elite? 212 00:09:45,652 --> 00:09:48,922 I mean, you already got guns. 213 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:50,624 But you know what it's like? 214 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,659 This is like when you get on the plane 215 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:53,927 and the flight attendant tell you, 216 00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:55,062 oh, well you're lucky today. 217 00:09:55,128 --> 00:09:56,763 This is one of our elite pilots. 218 00:09:56,864 --> 00:09:58,866 Well, who the hell? 219 00:09:58,966 --> 00:10:01,668 Who was flying this shit before, ma'am? 220 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:03,837 But there's something even weirder about this elite unit, 221 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:06,206 and that's in the name of this elite unit. 222 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:08,242 They were actually called The Scorpions. 223 00:10:08,342 --> 00:10:09,243 Oh, wow. 224 00:10:09,343 --> 00:10:10,377 The Scorpions. 225 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:12,412 The acronym, the police, they love the acronyms. 226 00:10:12,513 --> 00:10:16,016 And Scorpion stands for Street Crimes Operations 227 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,285 to Restore Peace in our Neighborhoods. 228 00:10:18,385 --> 00:10:19,987 - Oh. - Scorpion. 229 00:10:20,087 --> 00:10:21,388 And look, I don't know about you, 230 00:10:21,488 --> 00:10:24,658 DL, but look, as a rule of thumb, no police unit 231 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:27,694 should be named after a Mortal Kombat character. 232 00:10:27,794 --> 00:10:28,996 I agree, agree. 233 00:10:29,096 --> 00:10:30,264 You can't name a unit Scorpion, 234 00:10:30,364 --> 00:10:31,965 because once you give them a name like Scorpion, 235 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:33,800 it don't matter what they're even there for. 236 00:10:33,901 --> 00:10:35,936 They're going to be violent with the shit. 237 00:10:36,036 --> 00:10:38,672 You can have a police unit that only does paperwork, 238 00:10:38,772 --> 00:10:41,141 but if you call them Scorpions, they're 239 00:10:41,241 --> 00:10:43,844 going to be swooping in and whipping ass with W-2 forms. 240 00:10:43,944 --> 00:10:44,845 Agree. 241 00:10:44,945 --> 00:10:45,846 Anyway. 242 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:48,482 Agree, agree. 243 00:10:48,582 --> 00:10:49,683 And that's the other thing, man. 244 00:10:49,783 --> 00:10:51,351 It's not that hard for the police 245 00:10:51,451 --> 00:10:54,821 to name a unit after something other than a deadly animal. 246 00:10:54,922 --> 00:10:56,723 You ain't got to name every unit out a deadly animal. 247 00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:58,692 It's easy, watch this, watch this. 248 00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:05,799 Securing Neighborhoods Alongside Kind Enforcement. 249 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:08,268 That's peaceful. 250 00:11:08,368 --> 00:11:09,403 Ain't that Snake? 251 00:11:09,503 --> 00:11:11,071 Don't, don't, interrupt me, I'm still thinking. 252 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:12,639 Give me a second. 253 00:11:12,739 --> 00:11:15,409 What about this one, what about this one, this is peaceful. 254 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:20,380 Securing Homes and Rescuing Kids with Orderly 255 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,686 Lawful Functionality. 256 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:27,087 That's good. - Shark Wolf. 257 00:11:27,154 --> 00:11:28,088 Damn! 258 00:11:28,155 --> 00:11:29,089 OK, OK, OK. 259 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:30,190 It's tougher than I thought. 260 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:31,325 Forget acronyms, forget acronyms. 261 00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:32,459 We can do one. 262 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,795 We can do a police unit, it's peaceful and kind. 263 00:11:34,895 --> 00:11:36,864 Gentle Enforcement Needs Officers Carefully 264 00:11:36,964 --> 00:11:43,437 Inspecting Downtown Elements. 265 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:46,106 Don't you want me to finish the week, man? 266 00:11:46,139 --> 00:11:47,241 That's genocide. 267 00:11:47,341 --> 00:11:49,443 OK, all right, well then, just forget the names. 268 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:50,444 Here's an idea. 269 00:11:50,544 --> 00:11:51,478 Here's an idea. 270 00:11:51,578 --> 00:11:52,746 Police got all these elite units. 271 00:11:52,846 --> 00:11:53,780 Mm-hmm 272 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:56,116 How about the police form an elite unit 273 00:11:56,216 --> 00:12:00,187 that's specifically trained to not kill Black People? 274 00:12:00,287 --> 00:12:01,622 [cheering] 275 00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:04,391 That's the unit. 276 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:06,226 It's an all out unit, bro. 277 00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:07,561 Talking six months of boot camp, 278 00:12:07,661 --> 00:12:09,863 learning how to identify Black people. 279 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:12,299 Identify when our hands are up. 280 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,835 Identifying what compliant looks like, all of it. 281 00:12:14,935 --> 00:12:15,836 I bet you could do that. 282 00:12:15,936 --> 00:12:17,137 If you did all of that, you could 283 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:19,773 drop the killings of Black people by as much as 20%. 284 00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:23,443 [applause] 285 00:12:23,544 --> 00:12:24,511 20%. 286 00:12:24,611 --> 00:12:25,512 Just 20%. 287 00:12:25,612 --> 00:12:26,547 Hey, that's elite to me. 288 00:12:26,647 --> 00:12:29,082 We got to start somewhere. 289 00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:30,083 Thank you so much, Roy. 290 00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:34,254 Roy Wood Jr., everybody! 291 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:35,789 All right, when we come back, I'm 292 00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:38,759 going to talk to the attorney representing Tyre Nichols' 293 00:12:38,859 --> 00:12:41,228 family, so do not go away. 294 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:42,729 [applause] 295 00:12:42,829 --> 00:12:45,599 [cheering] 296 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:59,780 [cheering and applause] 297 00:13:00,781 --> 00:13:01,682 All right. 298 00:13:01,782 --> 00:13:05,052 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 299 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:07,254 My first guest is an attorney who is representing 300 00:13:07,354 --> 00:13:08,655 the family of Tyre Nichols. 301 00:13:08,755 --> 00:13:12,459 Please put your hands together for Ben Crump. 302 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,596 How are you? 303 00:13:15,696 --> 00:13:16,964 I'm good, DL. Good to see you, brother. 304 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:17,965 How you doing, friend. 305 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:20,267 You good? 306 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:23,303 I'm good, friend, other than this situation. 307 00:13:23,403 --> 00:13:25,505 Out of all the time-- like, usually, you called me, 308 00:13:25,606 --> 00:13:26,740 I think it's Tuesday. 309 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,709 And whenever I hear from you, I know it's bad news. 310 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:31,511 Like you never call when you won the Lotto or had a baby 311 00:13:31,612 --> 00:13:32,512 shower or nothing like that. 312 00:13:32,613 --> 00:13:33,814 It's always-- 313 00:13:33,914 --> 00:13:36,950 But you told me about it because my driver happened 314 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:39,119 to be Tyre's stepfather. 315 00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,421 And he had told me about it previously. 316 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:43,991 And so it struck me differently. 317 00:13:44,091 --> 00:13:45,359 Because I know Rodney and I-- 318 00:13:45,459 --> 00:13:48,262 I remember when he moved to Memphis. 319 00:13:48,362 --> 00:13:50,030 And I knew that you were on the case, 320 00:13:50,130 --> 00:13:52,833 so I was certain that something positive would happen. 321 00:13:52,933 --> 00:13:57,070 Do you think that the fact that the officers were arrested so 322 00:13:57,170 --> 00:14:01,441 swiftly is an indicator of things that are getting better 323 00:14:01,542 --> 00:14:03,877 or that just we got five Black people, 324 00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:07,247 so we're going to arrest them real fast? 325 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,650 You know, that's an interesting question, 326 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:13,820 DL Hughley, but I think when you look at the fact 327 00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:19,326 that they are Black officers, it seemed to be that this 328 00:14:19,426 --> 00:14:21,628 moved awfully swiftly. 329 00:14:21,795 --> 00:14:22,829 What I mean, the police chief said-- 330 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:25,265 Curiously swiftly-- very fast, very fast. 331 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,800 [laughter] 332 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:28,068 Very fast. 333 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:31,371 The police Chief Davis said it was important 334 00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:35,008 that they take swift action, that they 335 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:37,211 move swiftly to justice, DL. 336 00:14:37,311 --> 00:14:41,648 She said that because this video 337 00:14:41,815 --> 00:14:46,587 was so clear that the community needed to see that. 338 00:14:46,687 --> 00:14:53,160 And so I said to myself, they got fired, arrested, and 339 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:55,862 charged in less than 20 days. 340 00:14:55,963 --> 00:14:58,932 So this is the blueprint going forward, DL Hughley. 341 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:02,836 They cannot say anymore to us, whether the cop is Black 342 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:06,440 or white, when you see them on video committing a crime, 343 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:10,110 using excessive force against us, that it takes six months, 344 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:11,345 that it take a year. 345 00:15:11,445 --> 00:15:13,080 No, you can't tell us that anymore. 346 00:15:13,180 --> 00:15:15,148 Because we're going to say you remember those five Black 347 00:15:15,249 --> 00:15:17,050 police officers in Memphis? 348 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:18,518 Y'all arrested them immediately. 349 00:15:18,619 --> 00:15:23,991 [applause] 350 00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:25,826 What I do find interesting is that I know 351 00:15:25,926 --> 00:15:28,028 that you have tried to do what you 352 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:29,363 can in terms of police reform. 353 00:15:29,463 --> 00:15:32,599 But let me tell you, Congressman Jim Jordan, 354 00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:34,401 he said on, I think, Meet the Press, 355 00:15:34,501 --> 00:15:36,603 that he's not sure that any law, any training, 356 00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:38,338 or any reform could have stopped 357 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:39,640 what happened to Tyre Nichols. 358 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:45,012 So that sounds like a setup to not do anything. 359 00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:46,647 I'm tired of hearing about rotten apples. 360 00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:48,815 We gotta start looking at the trees and the soil 361 00:15:48,849 --> 00:15:50,484 that the trees grow on. 362 00:15:50,584 --> 00:15:54,755 If the premise-- if the premise is already nothing 363 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,256 could have stopped that, that sounds 364 00:15:56,356 --> 00:15:57,758 a lot like their approach on guns 365 00:15:57,824 --> 00:15:59,359 is we might just keep everything the same 366 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:02,462 because nothing will stop it. 367 00:16:02,563 --> 00:16:03,764 Yeah. 368 00:16:03,864 --> 00:16:08,502 You know, DL, it really is troubling when they continue 369 00:16:08,602 --> 00:16:11,471 to see all this evidence that we 370 00:16:11,572 --> 00:16:15,275 have a problem with the culture of policing in America. 371 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:17,778 One of the questions I was often asked 372 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:20,814 was, well, they're Black officers, 373 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:23,083 are you surprised what they did? 374 00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:24,985 And I said no. 375 00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:27,788 Because the race of the police officer 376 00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:31,391 isn't the determining factor of whether they're 377 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:34,494 going to commit excessive use of force. 378 00:16:34,595 --> 00:16:36,897 But it is the race of the victim. 379 00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:40,267 And it's often Black and brown people who bear 380 00:16:40,367 --> 00:16:43,036 the brunt of police brutality. 381 00:16:43,136 --> 00:16:48,041 I mean, DL, we don't see videos about white brothers 382 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:51,011 and sisters who are unarmed facing this kind 383 00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:52,946 of excessive use of force. 384 00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:54,548 I'm waiting to see those videos. 385 00:16:54,648 --> 00:16:59,620 Because how often, DL, have we seen Eric Garner in New York 386 00:16:59,753 --> 00:17:01,788 get choked-- the first I can't breathe case-- 387 00:17:01,889 --> 00:17:04,992 then Alton Sterling down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 388 00:17:05,092 --> 00:17:08,929 then Pamela Turner, the sister outside of Houston, 389 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:10,764 who was having a mental health crisis, 390 00:17:10,797 --> 00:17:11,765 and the police killed her-- 391 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:12,766 DL HUGHLEY: But what is-- 392 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:13,901 --and Laquon McDonald-- 393 00:17:14,001 --> 00:17:15,035 What is their incentive to stop? 394 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:17,838 --walking away in Chicago got shot 16 times. 395 00:17:17,938 --> 00:17:19,206 But what is their incentive to stop? 396 00:17:19,306 --> 00:17:21,642 Because what happens is police officers who kill Black 397 00:17:21,775 --> 00:17:23,243 people get a paid vacation. 398 00:17:23,343 --> 00:17:24,978 Then they come back. 399 00:17:25,078 --> 00:17:26,513 They have GoFundMe accounts. 400 00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:29,783 Then they say police departments need to be-- 401 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:32,119 they need to be retrained, so they get more money. 402 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:36,089 So there's no real incentive to make substantive change when 403 00:17:36,189 --> 00:17:38,859 nothing really severe-- and what police, they'll tend 404 00:17:38,959 --> 00:17:41,795 to do, is they'll get rid of the police officers 405 00:17:41,828 --> 00:17:43,530 and say now we can start at ground zero. 406 00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:44,531 Everything's changed. 407 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:47,067 And I don't see anything that has changed 408 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:50,537 that is so remarkable that it would lead me 409 00:17:50,637 --> 00:17:51,772 to believe that these are going to be 410 00:17:51,872 --> 00:17:54,474 changes that are resonant. 411 00:17:54,575 --> 00:17:58,078 Well, DL, we're making some progress. 412 00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,581 We need to make a lot more, but we're making some progress. 413 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:01,815 Because you know what a deterrent to them 414 00:18:02,349 --> 00:18:06,853 [crowd cheering] 415 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:08,889 Thank you. 416 00:18:08,989 --> 00:18:14,261 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 417 00:18:14,361 --> 00:18:15,262 It's such a great audience. 418 00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:16,263 Y'all must be union. 419 00:18:16,363 --> 00:18:20,634 Jeez. 420 00:18:20,734 --> 00:18:22,903 This is my next two guests. 421 00:18:23,003 --> 00:18:26,139 They have collaborated on a new book for young readers called 422 00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:28,375 How To Be a Young Antiracist. 423 00:18:28,475 --> 00:18:30,977 Won't you please welcome Dr. Ibrahim 424 00:18:31,078 --> 00:18:33,347 X. Kendi and Nic Stone. 425 00:18:33,447 --> 00:18:36,817 [music playing] 426 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:43,924 [applause] 427 00:18:46,827 --> 00:18:53,700 NIC STONE: Thank you. 428 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,770 So, How To Be A Young Antiracist. 429 00:18:56,870 --> 00:19:00,974 That means you're already banned in Florida, so. 430 00:19:01,074 --> 00:19:02,876 It's funny when we talk about race because we live 431 00:19:02,943 --> 00:19:07,614 in a country that the Congress and Senate voted 432 00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:12,219 for Juneteenth bill, but we're the same nation that don't 433 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:13,920 want to talk about slavery. 434 00:19:14,021 --> 00:19:15,922 They'll have Martin Luther King and Robert 435 00:19:16,023 --> 00:19:18,392 E. Lee Day on the same days. 436 00:19:18,492 --> 00:19:20,160 So I think when it comes to racism, 437 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:22,629 I think that a lot of people believe that if they're not 438 00:19:22,729 --> 00:19:24,998 actively saying the n-word, or doing 439 00:19:25,098 --> 00:19:27,334 or saying bigoted things, that means they're not racist. 440 00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:29,069 So how can we start a conversation 441 00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:31,104 about being anti-race when you're not quite 442 00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:32,506 sure how to quantify racism? 443 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,741 We are, but I don't think a lot of people are. 444 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:36,610 And I think that's the very point. 445 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:38,812 Because if you're not doing anything 446 00:19:38,912 --> 00:19:41,281 to challenge all of the injustice 447 00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:44,584 and all of the inequity in our society, then what happens? 448 00:19:44,685 --> 00:19:45,585 It persists. 449 00:19:45,686 --> 00:19:46,586 Sure. 450 00:19:46,687 --> 00:19:47,821 So therefore you're reinforcing it. 451 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:50,057 So therefore you're being racist. 452 00:19:50,157 --> 00:19:52,426 And so we're encouraging people to actively 453 00:19:52,526 --> 00:19:54,494 try to dismantle this structure, 454 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:55,495 including young people. 455 00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:56,963 But what is their incentive? 456 00:19:57,064 --> 00:19:58,231 Like, what would they be incent-- 457 00:19:58,332 --> 00:19:59,933 Nic, what is their-- if this system 458 00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:02,369 is working for you or not, it doesn't cause you any-- 459 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:03,704 because you can sleep at night. 460 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:06,673 Why would you want to change the system that seems to be 461 00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:08,909 going just as you intended? 462 00:20:09,009 --> 00:20:11,011 But is it actually working for you? 463 00:20:11,111 --> 00:20:12,012 - Well, yeah. - It seems to be. 464 00:20:12,112 --> 00:20:13,246 - Not me. - Right. 465 00:20:13,347 --> 00:20:14,514 It's clearly is not working for you, but one of us. 466 00:20:14,614 --> 00:20:16,049 I'm a temporary holds, but I'm talking about, like-- 467 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:17,250 Yes. 468 00:20:17,351 --> 00:20:19,987 I think, for me, it's all about children, right? 469 00:20:20,087 --> 00:20:22,489 Like, even though this is a system that 470 00:20:22,589 --> 00:20:24,224 might seem like it's working for you, 471 00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:25,759 the world is actively changing. 472 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:28,428 If your children are not prepared to live in a world 473 00:20:28,528 --> 00:20:30,330 and move to a world that have people that 474 00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:32,432 are different from them in positions of power, 475 00:20:32,532 --> 00:20:33,800 they're going to be in trouble. - Yeah. 476 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,068 But then they try to remake the world. 477 00:20:35,168 --> 00:20:36,403 You'll see that. 478 00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:40,107 Literally, we're a nation that is run by the Flintstones 479 00:20:40,207 --> 00:20:43,510 and in the Jetsons. 480 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:46,413 And the [bleep] Flintstones are winning. 481 00:20:46,513 --> 00:20:49,016 You have to understand that I don't believe a lot of people, 482 00:20:49,116 --> 00:20:50,484 for instance, I don't believe white people-- 483 00:20:50,584 --> 00:20:52,386 a lot of white people-- are actively racist. 484 00:20:52,486 --> 00:20:56,490 But I do believe that the notions of white supremacists, 485 00:20:56,590 --> 00:20:57,791 they don't agree with their methods 486 00:20:57,924 --> 00:20:59,793 but they agree with the goal, which is to keep 487 00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:01,328 white people in charge. 488 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:05,232 And so if that is the premise, then what incentive-- 489 00:21:05,332 --> 00:21:06,933 seriously-- would there be to make 490 00:21:07,034 --> 00:21:08,869 these changes that only destabilize 491 00:21:08,969 --> 00:21:10,337 what you know works for you? 492 00:21:10,437 --> 00:21:12,606 I think one of the things we've been showing 493 00:21:12,706 --> 00:21:15,942 in studying racism is that it's actually harming white 494 00:21:16,043 --> 00:21:17,377 people, too. 495 00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:20,881 It's not harming them at the level it's harming people 496 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:23,050 of color, but there are actually white people who 497 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:24,418 are dying of police violence. 498 00:21:24,518 --> 00:21:27,888 They're not dying at the level of Black and Brown people, 499 00:21:27,921 --> 00:21:29,623 but more white people are dying of police 500 00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:31,625 violence in this country than other countries. 501 00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:34,461 More white people are incarcerated in this country 502 00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:35,429 than other countries. 503 00:21:35,529 --> 00:21:36,997 More white people are struggling 504 00:21:37,097 --> 00:21:40,167 to vote in this country compared to other countries. 505 00:21:40,267 --> 00:21:44,338 There were 5 million about poor whites in 1860 506 00:21:44,438 --> 00:21:47,774 whose poverty was directly connected to the enslavement 507 00:21:47,908 --> 00:21:49,042 of Black people. 508 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:50,577 But I think-- a lot of white people don't get this-- 509 00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:52,512 when you're poor, you are nigger, too. 510 00:21:52,612 --> 00:21:54,481 You are You are. 511 00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:55,449 You are. 512 00:21:55,549 --> 00:21:57,584 You are You are. 513 00:21:57,684 --> 00:21:59,353 You are. 514 00:21:59,453 --> 00:22:00,420 You are. 515 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,855 Like, I don't think people understand-- 516 00:22:01,922 --> 00:22:02,923 IBRAM KENDI: No, they don't. 517 00:22:03,023 --> 00:22:05,158 --that generally what hurts me, hurts you. 518 00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,427 What is good for me is good for you. 519 00:22:07,527 --> 00:22:12,232 And I think that but there is that thing where people will 520 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:13,767 give their last dime to keep things 521 00:22:13,867 --> 00:22:15,302 a certain way as long as it hurts you. 522 00:22:15,402 --> 00:22:17,471 Like, look at what happened with the Obamacare Act. 523 00:22:17,571 --> 00:22:18,972 A lot of those people in those poor states 524 00:22:19,072 --> 00:22:20,040 are being hurt by that, but they 525 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:21,241 don't care as long as you are. 526 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:22,342 Yeah. 527 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:24,544 And, but, the sense of optimism is in what 528 00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:25,879 you said earlier children. 529 00:22:25,979 --> 00:22:27,447 Because in children you have-- 530 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:32,119 not mines, theirs-- a whole different thing but-- 531 00:22:32,219 --> 00:22:35,956 but in our children, we can see the potential of things 532 00:22:36,056 --> 00:22:37,691 that we hope to never-- 533 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:39,926 that we hope we can realize but probably never will. 534 00:22:40,027 --> 00:22:41,528 So that is an angle, I think, that it's 535 00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:42,529 probably substantive. 536 00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:43,530 Yeah. 537 00:22:43,630 --> 00:22:44,898 I think when it comes to children-- 538 00:22:44,998 --> 00:22:46,099 I have two of my own-- 539 00:22:46,199 --> 00:22:48,635 and it's important for me that they enter a world 540 00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:51,371 that they feel empowered to change, which 541 00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:52,906 is why we wrote this book. 542 00:22:52,973 --> 00:22:55,942 So Doctor Kendi wrote his memoir years ago, 543 00:22:56,043 --> 00:22:59,246 and I latched on to it, slid into his DMs, 544 00:22:59,346 --> 00:23:01,415 and asked if I could do a young readers version. 545 00:23:01,515 --> 00:23:04,117 Because it's important that young people have the tools. 546 00:23:04,217 --> 00:23:06,086 I get so many kids who are asking, well, what do I do? 547 00:23:06,186 --> 00:23:07,087 How do I help? 548 00:23:07,187 --> 00:23:08,422 What do I change? 549 00:23:08,522 --> 00:23:11,425 How can I get into this fight and do something about it? 550 00:23:11,525 --> 00:23:14,294 And so creating a text like how to be a young anti-racist, 551 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:16,063 we're giving them information where they're 552 00:23:16,163 --> 00:23:17,631 learning these definitions, they're learning 553 00:23:17,731 --> 00:23:18,865 what racism actually is. 554 00:23:18,932 --> 00:23:21,401 Give me an example of what racism actually is. 555 00:23:21,501 --> 00:23:24,204 So racism is a system of ideas. 556 00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:26,907 So you have racist ideas, and they are, basically, they're 557 00:23:27,007 --> 00:23:28,141 made to keep inequities going. 558 00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:29,109 Right. 559 00:23:29,209 --> 00:23:30,410 Right? 560 00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:33,080 So the whole purpose of a book like How To Be a Young 561 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,415 Antiracist is to give young people terms 562 00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,451 that we can all agree on that way 563 00:23:37,551 --> 00:23:38,785 we know what we're standing against. 564 00:23:38,885 --> 00:23:39,786 Like what? 565 00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:41,088 Like racism. 566 00:23:41,188 --> 00:23:44,091 Having a term, a definition, for racism helps them see, 567 00:23:44,191 --> 00:23:46,893 OK, this is what we're trying to fight. 568 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,061 Because one of the things that 569 00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:51,798 happens is people who have historically been racist 570 00:23:51,898 --> 00:23:52,933 refused to define that term. 571 00:23:53,033 --> 00:23:54,534 Of course. Why would you? 572 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:56,470 Because it allows them to exonerate themselves 573 00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:58,472 consistently and constantly. 574 00:23:58,572 --> 00:24:00,640 And even young people, therefore, 575 00:24:00,741 --> 00:24:02,642 don't know what it is, so they can't even assess themselves 576 00:24:02,743 --> 00:24:03,643 and guide themselves. 577 00:24:03,744 --> 00:24:04,644 How would they know? 578 00:24:04,745 --> 00:24:06,046 We have a lot of people who are raised 579 00:24:06,146 --> 00:24:07,681 by people who moved out of places that Black 580 00:24:07,848 --> 00:24:09,082 people are moving into. - Yeah. 581 00:24:09,182 --> 00:24:10,651 Right? That was a predicate. 582 00:24:10,751 --> 00:24:12,119 We're going to move out of places that Black 583 00:24:12,219 --> 00:24:13,320 people are moving into. 584 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:15,022 But those are the people who have the conversation 585 00:24:15,122 --> 00:24:16,723 with the people who are now having the conversation 586 00:24:16,857 --> 00:24:18,058 with the people. 587 00:24:18,158 --> 00:24:19,893 So they don't think the thing that they did was racist. 588 00:24:19,993 --> 00:24:20,227 That's a level of obliviousness that you can't quite quantify. 589 00:24:20,694 --> 00:24:22,596 [cheering] 590 00:24:22,696 --> 00:24:24,465 Well, that is our show for tonight, 591 00:24:24,565 --> 00:24:27,401 but before you go, please consider supporting the Boris 592 00:24:27,501 --> 00:24:29,303 Lawrence Henson Foundation. 593 00:24:29,403 --> 00:24:30,871 They're a non-profit that improves 594 00:24:30,971 --> 00:24:32,740 mental health services for Black communities. 595 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,341 If you want to support them and their work, 596 00:24:34,441 --> 00:24:36,376 please donate to the link below. 597 00:24:36,477 --> 00:24:39,146 Now, here is your moment of zen. 598 00:24:39,246 --> 00:24:41,882 What do you love most about your son? 599 00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:43,517 Is that even a fair question? 600 00:24:43,617 --> 00:24:45,886 It's not a fair question, because everything 601 00:24:45,986 --> 00:24:47,955 about my son, I loved. 602 00:24:48,055 --> 00:24:53,227 But what I loved the most, was the way he affected people 603 00:24:53,327 --> 00:24:55,429 and the way he touched people. 604 00:24:55,529 --> 00:24:57,131 (SINGING) MTV.