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From New York City,
the only city in America,
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it's the show that
invented news!
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This is The Daily Show,
with your host, Kal Penn!
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[cheering]
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Welcome to The Daily Show.
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My name is Kal Penn, and I
will be your host this week.
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Now, you might know me
from my work as an actor,
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or my work with
President Barack Obama.
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[cheering]
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I plan on dropping
his name all week.
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Anyway, we've got a
great show for you
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tonight, including a
very special interview
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with President Joe Biden.
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[cheering]
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He is a man who I
know well from my time
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working for Barack Obama.
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But first, let's get
into the headlines.
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Of course, last night
was the Academy Awards,
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and hashtag #OscarsSoAsian?
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[cheering]
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Hell, yeah, that's right!
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That's right.
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It was an incredible night for
the Asian-American community.
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So many Asian artists won
and thanked their parents,
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which was like, so nice.
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Although honestly,
if their parents
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are anything like mine, they
were probably just like, OK.
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Let's move on from
movies to music,
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and some big news
for a hot new artist.
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A new song credited
to Donald Trump
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and the J6 Choir is now
topping the iTunes music chart,
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"Justice for All" features
the former President, along
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with a group of men in
prison for the January
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6 attack on the Capitol.
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(SINGING) What's so proudly
we hailed at the twilight's
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last gleaming.
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I pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States
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of America.
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(SINGING) Whose broad
stripes and bright stars.
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Wow.
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I can't believe
I'm saying this,
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but those guys should
stick to insurrecting.
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This song is such a turd,
I'm surprised it's on iTunes
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and not Nancy Pelosi's desk.
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This is so bad,
Mike Pence heard it
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and he hanged himself.
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And why are they calling
themselves Donald
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Trump and the January 6 Choir?
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Coup and the Gang
is right there!
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[applause]
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Anyway, let's get to today's
big news, the collapse
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of Silicon Valley Bank.
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I know, it's impossible to
believe that a town that could
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spend half a million
dollars on this ape
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would have financial problems.
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But somehow, it happened.
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SVB was the 16th largest
bank in the country,
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and the favorite
bank of tech bros,
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disruptors, and
anyone who's ever
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invented Uber, but for weed.
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So here's what happened, OK.
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SVB invested a lot of their
clients' money on a bet
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that interest rates
wouldn't go up.
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And when interest
rates did go up,
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they started losing
their clients' money.
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Then they told their clients,
hey, don't freak out,
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but we're losing your money.
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So, of course, everyone
immediately freaked out
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and ran to the bank
to take out all
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their money before
it collapsed,
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which then caused
the bank to collapse.
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It was like that bank run scene
from It's a Wonderful Life,
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but if everyone was
wearing Patagonia vests.
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And look, people
are legitimately
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scared this could spread to
banks across the country.
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So to stop the panic,
the federal government
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took the bank over and
promised everyone that they'd
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get their money back.
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And it's kind of funny, because
some of the companies who
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had money at the bank were
screaming on social media
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that the government needed
to come and save them.
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That's right, all
those tech bros
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who complain about being
under the government's yoke
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were suddenly like, oh,
no, my money's gone?
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(WHINING) Yoke me, Daddy!
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So, that's basically
what happened.
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But if you're looking for an
explanation of why SVB failed
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that doesn't require you to
learn about interest rates,
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well, Fox News got you covered.
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Part of the problem
was, is that this
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was one of those woke banks.
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They were one of the most
woke banks in their quest
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for the ESG top, top policy.
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This bank,
they're so concerned
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with DEI and politics
and all kinds of stuff.
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This bank,
Silicon Valley Bank,
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they had been focused on a
lot of these social issues
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in the last weeks and months
leading up to this collapse.
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They had a month-long LGBTQ
month of activities just
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before the bank collapsed!
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I think the senior
vice president of risk
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management at the
bank was heavily
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focused on LGBTQ+ programs.
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The female head of risk
management spent a lot of time
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spearheading what
critics would call,
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woke programs, such as a safe
space for coming out stories.
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Oh, right.
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The female head of
risk management.
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That explains it.
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She probably spent the bank's
money on shoes and abortions.
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For more on Silicon Valley
Bank, we go to Michael Kosta.
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Whoa!
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[applause]
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Michael, where are you?
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Well, where does
it look like I am?
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I'm at Silicon Valley
Bank's headquarters.
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Looks like you're at
a gay nightclub, man.
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This is just what a
woke bank looks like, Kal.
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The first floor is
a gay nightclub,
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second floor is
a gay bathhouse,
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and the third floor
is gay accounting.
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OK, well, what's your
impression of SVB's collapse?
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Seems clear to me
that it's a result
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of rising interest
rates forcing the bank
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to sell its bonds at a loss.
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That's so naive, Kal.
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No, the reason the bank
collapsed is because of woke.
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What do you mean, woke?
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How did that collapse a bank?
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It just did, Kal, woke.
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DEI, ESG, POC, AOC, BET.
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The list is endless,
and the list is woke.
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I don't see what any of this
has to do with a bank failing.
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Well, that's because you're
not a trained economist
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like I am.
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But once you learn
the history, you
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discover that every bank
crisis that has ever happened
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has happened because of woke.
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There's no way that's true.
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Oh, come on.
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Women get the right to vote
in 1920, nine years later,
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the Great Depression?
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OK.
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How about this?
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Segregation ends in '64.
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17 years later, the
recession of '81 hits.
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Coincidence?
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Come on, man, you
can't connect these.
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Women and Black people are
not behind all bank collapses.
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Of course not, Kal.
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Sometimes it's gay
people's fault, OK.
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Just look at the names behind
the 2008 financial crisis.
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Lehman Brothers?
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Goldman Sachs?
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Bear Stearn?
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Rusty Trombone Investments?
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It's all major gay financial
institutions that lost money.
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I've never heard of
Rusty Trombone Investments.
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Well, they lost
a lot of my money.
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Look, forget your
theories for a minute.
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What can consumers do to
keep their money safe?
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It's easy.
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Skip the banks and keep all
your money in your wallet,
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like I do.
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That way, when I
need some money,
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that way when I need
some, oh, my God, someone
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stole my wallet.
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I know who it was.
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Oh, that's terrible.
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Who was it?
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It was woke.
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All right, man, OK.
Good luck with that.
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Michael Kosta, everybody!
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Where's my--?
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All right, when we
come back, my interview
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with President Joe Biden.
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Don't go away.
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Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
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Last week, I had
the opportunity
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to interview the president
of the United States
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at the White House.
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We talked about
our divided country
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and how young people's advocacy
can affect policy on climate,
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drilling, and human rights.
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Mr. President, welcome
to The Daily Show.
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Well, welcome back
to the White House.
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Thank you.
It's very nice to be back.
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I was trying to figure
out when the last time you
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and I had a conversation was.
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And I realized it was November
2016 at a very diverse Diwali
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party that you hosted, just
a few weeks after Trump
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became the president-elect.
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And I remember that you
described that night
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as an Irish Catholic
vice president
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and a Muslim gold star family
celebrating a reception
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observing a Hindu holiday.
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That's America.
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KAL PENN: Well, exactly,
that's how I felt.
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I mean, I remember just
feeling so positive and so much
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hope there.
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And then.
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JOE BIDEN: That was Mr. Khan.
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That was Mr.
Khan, yes, exactly.
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Then I remember just four
years of policy and vitriol
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under Trump.
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And now things
feel more divided.
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So I was curious how you
feel that we can stay hopeful
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and how can we get
the country to unify.
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The truth of the
matter is I've never
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more optimistic in my
entire life about--
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KAL PENN: Than now?
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No, I mean it, now.
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I tell you what, look, if you
think about it, the reason
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I had not--
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I'll give my word, I hadn't
planned on running again.
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I had lost my son, Beau.
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It was a tough, tough time.
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And I wasn't going to
run at all for real.
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And then remember what
happened in Charlottesville?
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When those folks came
out of the fields
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at night with torches
and swastikas?
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Of course
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And the white supremacists
and a young woman was killed.
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I spoke to her mom.
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Then President Trump
said there were very
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fine people on both sides.
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And I give my
word, that's when I
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decided I'm going to do this.
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But I was worried about
doing it because I
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knew how bitter it would be.
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And so I got a
phone call from my--
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true story-- from my eldest
granddaughter saying,
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can we have a family meeting?
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You probably are aware
of what's around here.
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We have a tradition
in the Biden family,
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any child can ask
for a family meeting.
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It doesn't often happen,
but you take it seriously.
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So my grandchildren, my four
granddaughters and grandson,
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Beau's children and
Hunter's children,
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came down on a Saturday.
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And we sat and talked.
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And they said, trying
to convince-- they said,
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we know you're thinking
of running, Pop.
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But you ought to do it.
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Daddy wants you to do it,
talking about Beau and the--
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and I said, well, it's
going to be pretty tough.
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And they said,
you got to do it.
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And we decided to do it.
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And I did it for three reasons.
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One, to restore the
soul of this country.
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That's not who we are.
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We're a decent, honorable
country that cares.
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We really are.
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We still are.
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Second one is to,
you know, begin
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to take care of
the middle class
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because the middle
class does well,
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the poor have a real shot,
and the wealthy do very well.
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And thirdly to
unite the country.
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And at the time,
thought-- people thought,
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well, maybe the
first two, but you'll
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never unite the country.
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But look what we did.
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We got a lot done.
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No one thought I could ever
pass the infrastructure bill.
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No one thought I could ever
do anything about making sure
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that we took care of
people with disabilities,
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and drug prices, and a
whole range of-- no one
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thought we could do
anything on the environment.
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No one thought we
could do anything
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about same-sex marriage.
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I mean, we did-- we
did not all of it,
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but a significant portion of it
was done in a bipartisan way.
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When I was a
White House aide,
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I remember having meetings
in this room on climate.
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They didn't always go so well.
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And I never would have imagined
12 years ago that something
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as sweeping on climate as
the Inflation Reduction Act
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would have happened.
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So my question, really,
and I was watching
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all of this unfold
is who or what
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created the political
space for you
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to take that kind of action?
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Young people.
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Young people, the
generation-- that generation
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between 18 and 35 now.
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They're the ones who
created the space.
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They had enough of it.
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They had enough of it.
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And so what I did
was, when I tried
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to figure out whether I
could put something together,
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I met with them.
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We had rallies.
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We had-- I mean, they showed
up in the 2020 election.
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They showed up in
the 2022 election.
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And we passed the largest
environmental plan in all
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of history, over $368 billion.
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We got it done.
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And what-- and
what happened was
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mother nature let her wrath be
seen over the last two years.
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For example, I have
traveled in helicopter
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over more forest area
burned to the ground
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than the entire
state of Maryland.
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That's how much is
burned to the ground.
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Floods, droughts,
all the things.
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And so people can't
deny it anymore.
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They can't deny the fact.
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And I've traveled the world.
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I've gone to all the COP
meetings around the world,
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meaning the
meetings on climate.
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If we don't keep
the temperature
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from going above 1.5
degrees Celsius raised,
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then we're in real trouble.
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That whole
generation is damned.
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I mean, that's not hyperbole,
really, truly in trouble.
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And that's why the
first meeting I had with
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the so-called, you know,
G7, the largest economies
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in the world,
democracies in the world,
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the first thing we
talked about was--
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they wanted to talk about what
was my initiative on energy,
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on dealing with moving toward--
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For example, I called all the
automakers and truck makers.
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And I asked them to come to
the South Lawn the first year
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and to try to talk them
into doing something more,
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going electric.
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And within five
weeks, all of them
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agreed they're going to
go electric, 50% by 2030.
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And by 2050, all electric.
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And I think we can do it.
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You're also
responsible for reviewing
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drilling and oil production.
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Yes.
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What would you say to those
young people who want you
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to continue to
be their champion
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but might not think that
you're going far enough
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or fast enough on climate?
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Well, first of all,
we're going faster
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than anyone's ever gone.
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We're going to need fossil
fuels for at least the next
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10 years.
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It's not like tomorrow we can
turn it all off, number one.
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And so in addition to that,
we've-- things got really
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complicated when Putin put
185,000 forces into Ukraine,
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having a profound impact on
their energy ability to be
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able to keep the heat on in the
winter and keep things moving.
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And so we're going
to need fossil fuel.
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What we have to
do is we have to--
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I have-- I've said no more
drilling off our ocean.
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I mean, a whole range.
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But there still has to be--
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there has to be the ability
to generate some energy.
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But we can get rid of
coal much more rapidly.
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And-- and by the
way, for example,
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I was up in Massachusetts,
one of the largest
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coal-producing electric
facilities in the nation.
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Well, guess what, we hooked
it up to wind technology.
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And so now-- and it's cheaper.
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We can do solar.
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We can do wind cheaper than
we can do fossil fuels.
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So it's a matter
of transitioning.
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But it's not like you can cut
everything off immediately.
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You-- you
obviously understand
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the existential threat
that young people
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feel when it comes to climate.
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JOE BIDEN: Sure.
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KAL PENN: How do
you balance that
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with the immediate
concerns of babysitting
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Congress or getting 51 or
60 votes on some of this?
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Well, look, I've
been relatively--
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I'm being careful here.
KAL PENN: Sure.
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[laughs]
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I've been relatively
successful in working
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across the aisle.
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There is a MAGA Republican
portion of the party.
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It makes up about a third
of the Republican Party.
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I've had more than a half a
dozen Republican senators I've
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known for years over
the last two years
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come to me individually,
and I promise I'd never
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mention the names,
and I' go to my grave
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never mentioning them.
- You can tell me later.
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JOE BIDEN: No, I'm not telling.
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I mean, seriously, I've
never broken my word.
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And saying, Joe,
I agree with you,
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but if I do anything publicly,
they're going to primary,
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and I mean, I'll lose.
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The Republican Party
has gone through
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a significant transition.
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And we're going to see
in the next two years
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how they end up,
whether the MAGA
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Republicans control
the party or we
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get back to conservative.
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Like, for example, a guy
who's tough as can be
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is the Majority Leader
of the United States--
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the Minority in the United
States Senate, McConnell.
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But he's straight.
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He's a traditional
conservative.
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He's straight.
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What he says he does.
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He probably doesn't even
want me saying this.
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It would probably
hurt his reputation.
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But there's a lot of people
in the Republican Party
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who are traditional
Republican--
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conservative Republicans
that you can deal with.
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But, you know,
these-- you know,
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the gentlewoman from
the state of Georgia
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in the mountains up there and
others, Gaetz, and anyway--
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That's very diplomatic.
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I would have used
different language.
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But you're-- yeah,
you have different--
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JOE BIDEN: But no, it's a--
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there's an existential question
that the Republican Party
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is going to have to face.
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And it's going to
determine what happens
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in the next couple of years.
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But my focus is just
stay focused, focused
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on the things that matter.
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We've got to deal
with the climate.
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We've got to deal with civil
liberties and voting rights.
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We've got to deal with issues
relating to economic growth.
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Look, in this
period, I inherited,
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I think it's fair to
say, a gigantic mess
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economically and politically.
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KAL PENN: Of course.
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We've created 12
million new jobs
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since I've been president,
more than any president
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has created in four years.
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We've generated so much growth.
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We've created 800,000
manufacturing jobs
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with the bill that
became a bipartisan bill,
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which no one thought
could happen,
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the CHIPS and Science bill.
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We used to invest 2% of our GDP
in research and development.
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That's why we're
the nation we were.
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Well, guess what?
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We decided to start--
we ended up being number
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8 or 10 instead of number one.
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Well, now we're doing it again
through the CHIPS and Science
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bill.
Guess what?
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Commitments for $300 billion
in investments over the next 10
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years to build these chips.
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We invented the chips.
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We made them.
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We made them much
more sophisticated.
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We used to be-- anyway.
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So there's so much going
on that the country
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is hungry to move, I think.
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And I'm confident we can do it.
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It's reassuring to hear
you talk about the ways young
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people can continue
to get involved
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and that you feel like there's
still bipartisan hope there,
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if it's--
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JOE BIDEN: Oh, there is.
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By the way, I
mean, look, again,
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if we had had this conversation
immediately after Trump lost,
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although he's not
sure he did, but--
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[laughs]
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--and I told you we were
going to get more done in two
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years than almost any
president has done, period,
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and much of it in
a bipartisan way,
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I think everybody would
have looked at me, like,
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what's this guy been drinking?
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What's going on here?
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But we have.
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We have.
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And I've been able--
we've been able to.
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The leadership of
the Democratic Party
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has been able to hold a
Democratic Congress together.
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And we picked up a few
Republicans along the way.
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And I think it's beginning
to bear fruit that it's
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hard to deny that it works.
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Speaking of young
people, the Supreme Court
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is considering striking
down your student
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debt relief decision.
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What's the plan
if that happens?
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Well, first of all, the
constitutional scholars I've
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spoken to say the people
that challenged it have
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no standing,
meaning the court is
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ultimately, as much
as they want to rule,
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they're going to--
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I think they're
going to have to rule
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that it was appropriate
for what I did, number one.
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Number two, if you
think about it,
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we had this PPP program,
that is the program
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during the pandemic.
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People lost their businesses
because they had to shut down.
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Restaurants closed.
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And so we provided billions
of dollars, significantly more
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than helping students
with their debt.
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And a number of
the very people who
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are criticizing me
in Congress actually
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got benefits in the program.
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[chuckles]
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You don't hear them
talking about it, right?
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The average student
who will benefit
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from my student loan
forgiveness program
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is somebody making
less than 70--
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90% make $70,000 or less.
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They're just trying to
get out of the hole.
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They're just trying
to get started.
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They're just trying
to get up and running.
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And so it-- there
is overwhelmingly
507
00:21:37,097 --> 00:21:38,899
interest in the economy.
508
00:21:38,999 --> 00:21:40,667
It's a fair thing to do.
509
00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:42,803
And it's going to
generate economic growth
510
00:21:42,903 --> 00:21:44,137
that's significant.
511
00:21:44,238 --> 00:21:46,607
I understand them worrying.
512
00:21:46,707 --> 00:21:48,442
I understand.
513
00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:50,310
I don't know whether
people realize--
514
00:21:50,444 --> 00:21:52,446
well, a lot of
parents realize--
515
00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:54,748
how much of a burden this is.
516
00:21:54,848 --> 00:21:56,250
You get out of school.
517
00:21:56,350 --> 00:21:58,619
There were no jobs when
you graduated because--
518
00:21:58,719 --> 00:22:01,455
initially, because
of the pandemic.
519
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:04,858
You got a debt that
is, in most cases,
520
00:22:04,958 --> 00:22:09,930
exceeding the $10,000 loan
you got or grant you got.
521
00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:13,934
And-- and it's really
a gigantic burden.
522
00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:15,168
You want to grow the economy.
523
00:22:15,269 --> 00:22:18,238
You want these people being
able to go out and make
524
00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,607
a down payment on a home,
make-- be able to go out
525
00:22:20,707 --> 00:22:22,309
and start a business,
be able to go out
526
00:22:22,476 --> 00:22:26,580
and be free to the debt so
they can invest in things
527
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,981
that they care about.
528
00:22:28,081 --> 00:22:31,251
And it's just so
shortsighted if they don't.
529
00:22:31,418 --> 00:22:32,753
I wanted-- I
wanted to ask you
530
00:22:32,853 --> 00:22:34,154
a slightly different question.
531
00:22:34,254 --> 00:22:37,925
So my partner, Josh, and I have
been engaged for the last five
532
00:22:38,025 --> 00:22:40,627
years, which really only means
that every auntie and uncle
533
00:22:40,727 --> 00:22:42,796
that I have is beyond
disappointed that there
534
00:22:42,896 --> 00:22:43,830
hasn't been a wedding yet.
535
00:22:43,931 --> 00:22:46,433
But-- but Cardi B is
going to marry us,
536
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:49,069
apparently, officiate our
wedding, which would be nice.
537
00:22:49,169 --> 00:22:50,671
But my-- my question
for you, Mr.
538
00:22:50,771 --> 00:22:54,208
President is you
codified support
539
00:22:54,308 --> 00:22:57,444
for same-sex marriage and
interracial marriages like--
540
00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:58,779
like ours.
541
00:22:58,879 --> 00:23:03,684
I'm curious what your evolution
was like on marriage equality
542
00:23:03,784 --> 00:23:07,554
and what the federal government
might be able to do to protect
543
00:23:07,654 --> 00:23:12,659
LGBTQ Americans, especially
trans kids who are dealing
544
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:14,461
with all these
regressive state laws
545
00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:16,496
that are popping up right now.
546
00:23:16,597 --> 00:23:19,900
I can remember exactly
where my epiphany was.
547
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,201
KAL PENN: OK.
548
00:23:21,301 --> 00:23:22,603
I hadn't thought much about
it, to tell you the truth.
549
00:23:22,703 --> 00:23:23,637
And I was a--
550
00:23:23,737 --> 00:23:25,505
I was a senior in high school.
551
00:23:25,606 --> 00:23:27,875
And I wanted to
get a job being--
552
00:23:27,975 --> 00:23:30,210
turned out the
only-- it turned out
553
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:32,913
I was the only
Caucasian lifeguard
554
00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:35,415
in the projects in the
city of Wilmington,
555
00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:37,084
the big swimming pools.
556
00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:40,053
And my dad was dropping
me off to go in and get
557
00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:42,623
an application at the City Hall
in Wilmington, Rodney Square,
558
00:23:42,723 --> 00:23:43,824
it's called.
559
00:23:43,924 --> 00:23:45,492
And I remember, I'm about
to get out of the car,
560
00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:46,827
and I look to my right.
561
00:23:46,927 --> 00:23:50,731
And two well-dressed men
in suits kissed each other.
562
00:23:50,831 --> 00:23:52,566
I mean, they gave
each other a kiss.
563
00:23:52,666 --> 00:23:55,002
And then one went, looked like
he was heading to the DuPont
564
00:23:55,102 --> 00:23:57,304
building, and one looked like
he headed to the Hercules
565
00:23:57,437 --> 00:23:58,739
Corporation building.
566
00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:00,107
And I'll never forget it.
567
00:24:00,207 --> 00:24:03,176
I turned and looked at my dad,
he said, Joey, it's simple.
568
00:24:03,277 --> 00:24:04,945
They love each other.
569
00:24:05,045 --> 00:24:05,946
It's simple.
570
00:24:06,046 --> 00:24:07,548
No, I'm not joking.
571
00:24:07,648 --> 00:24:10,350
It's simple, they
love each other.
572
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:13,120
And it's never been--
573
00:24:13,220 --> 00:24:16,523
it's never been.
574
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,458
It's just that simple.
575
00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:20,994
And I remember-- you
may remember because you
576
00:24:21,094 --> 00:24:22,829
may have been here when I--
577
00:24:22,930 --> 00:24:26,633
in the-- our last
administration,
578
00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:28,535
with Barack, I went
on Meet the Press.
579
00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:29,536
Oh, I know.
580
00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:32,806
And they asked
me about the show--
581
00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,242
I was telling
them I had visited
582
00:24:35,409 --> 00:24:36,610
a family in another state.
583
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:39,112
And-- and I watched these two--
584
00:24:39,213 --> 00:24:41,315
this gay couple
raising two kids
585
00:24:41,415 --> 00:24:44,051
and watching them run in
and throw their arms around
586
00:24:44,151 --> 00:24:46,053
daddy and so on.
587
00:24:46,153 --> 00:24:49,790
And I told them, I said-- they
said, well, what do you think?
588
00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:51,058
Russert asked me.
589
00:24:51,158 --> 00:24:53,727
I said, I think people should
be able to get married.
590
00:24:53,827 --> 00:24:55,028
Married.
591
00:24:55,128 --> 00:24:57,130
It doesn't matter
whether it's--
592
00:24:57,231 --> 00:25:00,667
whether it's same sex or
a heterosexual couple.
593
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:02,603
You should be able
to be married.
594
00:25:02,703 --> 00:25:04,938
What is the problem?
595
00:25:05,038 --> 00:25:07,107
So listen to your
auntie and your uncle.
596
00:25:07,207 --> 00:25:08,775
Get married.
597
00:25:08,876 --> 00:25:10,544
Do it now.
598
00:25:10,644 --> 00:25:11,678
Don't wait.
599
00:25:11,778 --> 00:25:14,648
Now, transgender kids is
a really harder ding--
600
00:25:14,748 --> 00:25:15,949
thing.
601
00:25:16,049 --> 00:25:20,153
What's going on in Florida
is, as my mother would say,
602
00:25:20,254 --> 00:25:21,321
close to sinful.
603
00:25:21,455 --> 00:25:23,690
I mean, it's just terrible
what they're doing.
604
00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,627
It's not like a kid wakes
up one morning and says,
605
00:25:26,727 --> 00:25:29,796
you know, I decided I
want to become a man,
606
00:25:29,897 --> 00:25:32,266
or I want to become a
woman, or I want to change.
607
00:25:32,399 --> 00:25:37,237
I mean, what-- what are
they thinking about here?
608
00:25:37,404 --> 00:25:39,039
They're human beings.
They love.
609
00:25:39,139 --> 00:25:40,040
They have feelings.
610
00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:41,775
They have inclinations
that are--
611
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:45,412
I mean, it just, to me, is--
612
00:25:45,512 --> 00:25:47,881
I don't know, it's cruel.
613
00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:49,750
And the way we do
it is we make sure
614
00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:52,786
we pass legislation like we
passed on same-sex marriage.
615
00:25:52,886 --> 00:25:55,422
You mess with that,
you're breaking the law,
616
00:25:55,489 --> 00:25:57,257
and you're going to
be held accountable.
617
00:25:57,424 --> 00:25:58,492
Thank you, sir.
618
00:25:58,592 --> 00:26:00,961
I also can tell that,
like, some auntie or my mom
619
00:26:01,061 --> 00:26:02,930
probably texted
you beforehand if--
620
00:26:03,030 --> 00:26:03,931
JOE BIDEN: No, no, no.
621
00:26:04,031 --> 00:26:05,198
If they're trying
to pressure me to.
622
00:26:05,299 --> 00:26:06,199
No, no.
623
00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:07,434
But get moving, man.
624
00:26:07,467 --> 00:26:08,435
[laughs]
625
00:26:08,468 --> 00:26:10,304
I don't want to
hear you can't do it.
626
00:26:10,437 --> 00:26:12,172
I know we're on limited time.
627
00:26:12,272 --> 00:26:14,441
So I just want to ask
you, looking ahead,
628
00:26:14,541 --> 00:26:16,810
there are a lot
of names floated--
629
00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:21,081
it's a crowded-- crowded field.
630
00:26:21,181 --> 00:26:22,950
Who should be the
next permanent host
631
00:26:23,050 --> 00:26:25,052
of The Daily Show?
632
00:26:25,152 --> 00:26:27,654
Depending on how you
edit this program, you.
633
00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:28,655
Yes!
634
00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:30,090
OK, that's a good answer.
635
00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:31,491
Solid answer.
636
00:26:31,592 --> 00:26:32,626
Solid answer.
637
00:26:32,726 --> 00:26:35,028
I don't think we need
to edit anything then.
638
00:26:35,128 --> 00:26:36,763
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you for your time.
639
00:26:36,863 --> 00:26:38,265
And I appreciate it.
- Well, thank you.
640
00:26:38,398 --> 00:26:39,666
Thank you.
641
00:26:39,766 --> 00:26:42,135
All right, stay tuned
because when we come back,
642
00:26:42,236 --> 00:26:45,405
President Biden takes us
inside the Oval Office.
643
00:26:45,439 --> 00:26:46,506
Don't go away.
644
00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:49,676
[cheers and applause]
645
00:26:54,347 --> 00:27:00,653
[applause]
646
00:27:00,754 --> 00:27:02,455
Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
647
00:27:02,555 --> 00:27:04,324
Let's take it back
to the White House,
648
00:27:04,424 --> 00:27:06,292
or as my college
buddies called it when I
649
00:27:06,393 --> 00:27:08,628
worked there, the tight house.
650
00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:11,331
Now I've been fortunate enough
to be in the Oval Office
651
00:27:11,431 --> 00:27:12,365
a few times.
652
00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,834
But, today, I get to
bring you with me.
653
00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:20,507
[music playing]
654
00:27:20,607 --> 00:27:22,575
Well, welcome to a place
you've spent some time.
655
00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:23,576
Thank you, sir.
656
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:25,145
I have-- the fireplace
has never been
657
00:27:25,245 --> 00:27:26,146
on when I've been in here.
658
00:27:26,246 --> 00:27:27,113
I tell you what.
659
00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:30,050
I have it on all the time.
660
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:31,584
It's kind of humbling
walking in here.
661
00:27:31,684 --> 00:27:32,585
Absolutely.
662
00:27:32,685 --> 00:27:33,820
I mean, for real.
663
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,856
I had my brother, Jimmy,
come in and, you know,
664
00:27:36,956 --> 00:27:39,626
pick the rug, and the
desk, and all that stuff.
665
00:27:39,726 --> 00:27:43,396
And, make a long story short,
I come walking in, like,
666
00:27:43,496 --> 00:27:45,198
5:00 on inauguration day.
667
00:27:45,298 --> 00:27:47,233
And I walked in
and I said, jeez.
668
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:51,404
I said, I've never seen
Franklin Roosevelt. I'm
669
00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:53,640
an admirer, but it was
always George Washington's
670
00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:54,774
small portrait there.
671
00:27:54,941 --> 00:27:55,775
Right.
672
00:27:55,942 --> 00:27:58,945
And Abraham Lincoln
and Jon Meacham,
673
00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:00,246
the presidential historian.
674
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,482
Jimmy had called
him for some help.
675
00:28:02,582 --> 00:28:04,484
And he looked and he
said, because no one's
676
00:28:04,584 --> 00:28:07,754
ever inherited a world economy
in as much disarray as he had.
677
00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:08,955
And I thought, oh,
that's wonderful.
678
00:28:09,022 --> 00:28:09,956
There you go.
That tracks.
679
00:28:10,023 --> 00:28:11,791
And I said,
well, why Lincoln?
680
00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:13,526
And he said, the country
has never been as divided
681
00:28:13,626 --> 00:28:15,161
since Lincoln was president.
682
00:28:15,261 --> 00:28:20,366
But what I did was I wanted to
be able to sit here at my desk
683
00:28:20,467 --> 00:28:21,801
and look out.
684
00:28:21,968 --> 00:28:23,770
And I only had two
political heroes
685
00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:27,173
when I was getting involved.
686
00:28:27,273 --> 00:28:31,778
That fellow over there, Martin
Luther King and Bobby Kennedy.
687
00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:33,980
I very admire John Kennedy.
688
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,616
I could never picture John
Kennedy at my kitchen table.
689
00:28:36,716 --> 00:28:38,585
I could kind of picture maybe.
690
00:28:38,685 --> 00:28:42,589
And then the two people who
I got involved, engaged with
691
00:28:42,689 --> 00:28:46,493
was Cesar Chavez because
I got not involved,
692
00:28:46,593 --> 00:28:50,130
but I supported verbally
the Farm Workers Union
693
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:52,465
they were trying to organize
in Delaware when I was
694
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,234
running as a 29-year-old kid.
695
00:28:54,334 --> 00:28:55,935
And his granddaughter
works for me.
696
00:28:56,035 --> 00:28:59,105
And then Rosa Parks,
who's over here.
697
00:28:59,205 --> 00:29:01,775
And so I tried to--
698
00:29:01,941 --> 00:29:08,415
I tried to make it kind of
warm, like I thought about.
699
00:29:09,616 --> 00:29:12,252
The other guy never showed
up on inauguration day,
700
00:29:12,352 --> 00:29:14,020
so I didn't have
to worry about it.
701
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,021
But it's kind of neat.
702
00:29:15,121 --> 00:29:16,256
And the things
I've done in here.
703
00:29:16,356 --> 00:29:19,225
Like, for example, I
the moon rock over here.
704
00:29:19,325 --> 00:29:21,261
All right, I'm a huge NASA
fan, a big astronomy fan.
705
00:29:21,361 --> 00:29:23,229
- Are you really?
- So this is very cool.
706
00:29:23,329 --> 00:29:24,230
Well, this is cool.
707
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:25,965
That's an actual moon rock.
708
00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:29,035
And one of the-- you know,
that rover they have up there.
709
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:30,170
Yeah.
710
00:29:30,270 --> 00:29:31,771
My name is in the back
with other presidents.
711
00:29:31,871 --> 00:29:32,772
Oh, that's cool.
712
00:29:32,872 --> 00:29:34,040
It's really cool,
but I want to show
713
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:35,475
you something really cool.
714
00:29:35,575 --> 00:29:37,977
Come on back here.
715
00:29:38,011 --> 00:29:40,013
Not many people come back
this way, but come on in.
716
00:29:40,113 --> 00:29:41,014
Thank you, sir.
717
00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:42,015
Oh, yeah.
718
00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:44,584
Not only are we seeing
the Oval Office,
719
00:29:44,684 --> 00:29:47,153
we're also getting a rare
tour of the president's
720
00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:48,254
private study.
721
00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:50,356
This is like the world's
most dignified episode
722
00:29:50,457 --> 00:29:51,991
of MTV Cribs.
723
00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:56,730
By the way, that is
a Wyeth painting of--
724
00:29:56,830 --> 00:29:58,832
by Jamie Wyeth, the son.
725
00:29:58,932 --> 00:30:00,934
And he told me
the Kennedy family
726
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:03,269
didn't like him because he made
him look too contemplative.
727
00:30:03,369 --> 00:30:04,270
- Oh.
- But--
728
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:05,271
- He's got a smile.
- I know.
729
00:30:05,371 --> 00:30:06,272
I think it's great.
730
00:30:06,372 --> 00:30:07,273
But anyway, and
that's the house
731
00:30:07,373 --> 00:30:08,742
I was raised in in Scranton.
732
00:30:08,842 --> 00:30:09,809
Oh, that's awesome.
733
00:30:09,943 --> 00:30:10,810
Wow.
734
00:30:10,944 --> 00:30:12,112
Or as they say, Scra-on.
735
00:30:12,212 --> 00:30:13,213
Scra-on.
736
00:30:13,313 --> 00:30:15,348
So I went and spoke
at the Kennedy Library
737
00:30:15,448 --> 00:30:16,349
a couple of times.
738
00:30:16,449 --> 00:30:19,052
The last time I
spoke there, I get
739
00:30:19,152 --> 00:30:22,055
handed this by
Caroline Kennedy.
740
00:30:22,155 --> 00:30:24,324
And it's that famous
letter he wrote.
741
00:30:24,424 --> 00:30:25,392
KAL PENN: Wow.
742
00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:28,094
JOE BIDEN: And this
is the actual copy.
743
00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:31,865
And it's, you know,
why am I going?
744
00:30:31,965 --> 00:30:34,968
We chose to go to the
moon in this decade
745
00:30:35,068 --> 00:30:38,271
because that goal will
serve the origins of measure
746
00:30:38,371 --> 00:30:39,339
by the best of us.
747
00:30:39,439 --> 00:30:40,673
And it goes on and on.
748
00:30:40,774 --> 00:30:41,975
KAL PENN: Well, that's--
749
00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,979
I mean, the-- just even
that top line, no prejudice,
750
00:30:46,012 --> 00:30:47,046
no hate in outer space.
751
00:30:47,147 --> 00:30:48,048
Bingo.
752
00:30:48,148 --> 00:30:49,349
I don't know if
you have any tattoos.
753
00:30:49,449 --> 00:30:50,984
I've got some from
the NASA Voyager,
754
00:30:51,084 --> 00:30:53,086
which was launched in '77.
755
00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:56,623
And the Golden Record, which
had science, music, art.
756
00:30:56,723 --> 00:30:57,624
Yeah.
757
00:30:57,724 --> 00:31:00,326
But no politics,
no war, no religion.
758
00:31:00,427 --> 00:31:01,795
None of the things
that divide us.
759
00:31:01,928 --> 00:31:05,565
And so it's just the idea
of hope through exploration.
760
00:31:05,665 --> 00:31:07,667
Unfortunately,
before the president
761
00:31:07,767 --> 00:31:10,770
showed me all of his
tattoos, it was time to go.
762
00:31:10,937 --> 00:31:12,238
- Thanks.
- Thank you, sir.
763
00:31:12,338 --> 00:31:13,573
I really appreciate your time.
764
00:31:13,673 --> 00:31:15,975
And thank you so much for the
stories and the Oval tour.
765
00:31:16,076 --> 00:31:17,610
[applause]
766
00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:19,512
OK, we're going to
take a quick break,
767
00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:20,780
but we'll be right
back after this.
768
00:31:20,947 --> 00:31:23,950
[applause]
769
00:31:30,827 --> 00:31:32,295
[applause]
770
00:31:32,395 --> 00:31:33,930
That's our show for tonight.
771
00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:37,200
But before we go, please
consider supporting the Magic
772
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:38,768
City Acceptance Center.
773
00:31:38,869 --> 00:31:40,937
They're a nonprofit
dedicated to providing
774
00:31:41,037 --> 00:31:44,875
an inclusive space for the
LGBTQ+ community in Alabama.
775
00:31:44,975 --> 00:31:46,343
If you can support
them in their work,
776
00:31:46,443 --> 00:31:47,811
please donate at
the link below.
777
00:31:47,911 --> 00:31:49,946
Now here it is,
your moment of zen.
778
00:31:50,046 --> 00:31:52,582
If not this time
to run for president,
779
00:31:52,682 --> 00:31:54,684
would you think
at some time it's
780
00:31:54,784 --> 00:31:56,519
safe to say that would
be one of your goals?
781
00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,555
I would only--
782
00:31:58,655 --> 00:32:01,291
I would only do
stuff if I thought
783
00:32:01,391 --> 00:32:04,060
there was a rationale for
me to accomplish things
784
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,295
on behalf of the people.
785
00:32:05,395 --> 00:32:07,197
So it's all
substance-driven about
786
00:32:07,297 --> 00:32:08,765
whether I could
serve or not serve
787
00:32:08,865 --> 00:32:10,534
in a variety of capacities.
788
00:32:10,634 --> 00:32:12,235
(SINGING) MTV.