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♪ ♪
Announcer: FROM
NEW YORK CITY, THE ONLY CITY IN
AMERICA, IT'S THE SHOW THAT

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INVENTED NEWS.
THIS IS "THE DAILY SHOW" WITH
YOUR HOST, KAL PENN!
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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♪ ♪
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
Kal: WELCOME TO
"THE DAILY SHOW!"

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I'M KAL PENN.
THIS IS MY THIRD NIGHT, AND THIS
JOB IS WAY BETTER THAN WHEN I
WORKED AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

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I CAN EAT CANDY FOR LUNCH
WITHOUT MICHELLE OBAMA JUDGING
ME FOR IT.
ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW

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FOR YOU TONIGHT.
MY GUEST IS "VANITY FAIR" EDITOR
RADHIKA JONES.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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YEAH, SHE'S WONDERFUL.
BUT THERE'S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT,
SO LET'S GET INTO HEADLINES!
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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♪ ♪
LET'S KICK THINGS OFF WITH A BIG
UPDATE ON ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE.

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IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
WHO IS WORRIED THAT AI IS
GETTING TOO SMART TO FAST, YOU
MIGHT WANT TO TELL ALEXIS TO

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TURN YOUR TV OFF.
ARTIFICIAL ARTIFICIAL INTELT
GOT MORE REAL.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

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TAKING A DIZZYING LEAP FORWARD.
OPENAI THE COMPANY BEHIND
CHATGPT, WHICH CAME ON THE SCENE
JUST FOUR MONTHS AGO, OUT WITH

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ITS LATEST INNOVATION, GPT4.
IT CAN SUMMARIZE ARTICLES,
CRAFT JOKES, AND EVEN DECIPHER
IMAGES.

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FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN TELL US
THAT IF THE STRINGS IN THIS
IMAGE WERE CUT, THE BALLOONS
WOULD FLY AWAY.

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AFTER SCANNING A PICTURE OF
WHAT'S IN YOUR CUPBOARD OR
FRIDGE, IT CAN SERVE UP OPTIONS
FOR A RECIPE.

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THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF
CHATGTP HAD ABOUT A 10% CHANCE
OF PASSING THE BAR EXAM FOR
LAWYERS.

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THIS NEW VERSION THAT IS BEING
INTRODUCED TODAY HAS ABOUT 90%
CHANCE OF PASSING THE BAR.
Kal: DID YOU HEAR THAT?

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IN FOUR MONTHS, THIS THING WENT
FROM BEING BORN TO ACING THE BAR
EXAM!
WHAT CAN YOUR DUMB-ASS

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4-MONTH-OLD TO DO?
OH, DID YOU SEE THAT?
HE LOOKED TO BE EYES AND ROLLED
OVER.

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[APPLAUSE]
I WORKED IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
AND KEEP IN MIND, THE BAR EXAM
ISN'T JUST A MULTIPLE-CHOICE

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TEST.
YOU HAVE TO WRITE ESSAYS, YOU
HAVE TO KNOW CASE LAW, YOU HAVE
TO SPOT ISSUES,

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AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BE
SMUG WHEN YOU SAY,
"OH, I WENT TO SCHOOL IN
NEW HAVEN."

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THE POINT IS, THIS THING IS
LEARNING FAST.
ONCE THIS THING FIGURES OUT HOW
TO GET DRUNK AND GROPE SOMEONE,

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IT WILL BE QUALIFIED FOR THE
SUPREME COURT.
AND THE OTHER BIG UPDATE IS WITH
THIS NEW VERSION IS THAT THIS

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CAN ANALYZE PHOTOS.
LIKE A PHOTO OF WHAT IS IN YOUR
FRIDGE.
I DON'T WANT THAT!

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"YOU HAVE TOO MANY CANDY BARS,
ALERTING MICHELLE OBAMA."
THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS THAT AI
IS GOING TO DO SO MANY THINGS SO

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WELL THAT AT SOME POINT, IT'S
GOING TO PUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.
SO WHAT DO WE DO?

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I HAVE TWO IDEAS.
ONE: IMPLEMENT UNIVERSAL BASIC
INCOME.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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THERE YOU GO.
OR TWO -- AND HEAR ME OUT HERE,
WE LET THE MACHINES EAT ALL THE
SURPLUS PEOPLE.

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NO?
OKAY, YEAH, LESS POPULAR, I CAN
TELL.
ENOUGH ABOUT MACHINES KILLING

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PEOPLE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO PEOPLE KILLING
PEOPLE.
GOT REALLY DARK, I KNOW.

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IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE RUSSIA
ILLEGALLY INVADED
UKRAINE.
AND NOW THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL

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EFFORT TO HOLD RUSSIA
ACCOUNTABLE IN COURT FOR
WAR CRIMES.
BUT YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHO'S

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STANDING IN THE WAY.
THE PENTAGON IS BLOCKING THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FROM
SHARING EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN WAR

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CRIMES COMMITTED IN UKRAINE WITH
THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL
COURT.
MILITARY LEADERS SAY HELPING THE

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COURT WITH THE INVESTIGATION
WOULD SET A PRECEDENT THAT COULD
LEAD TO PROSECUTING AMERICANS.
Kal: THAT'S RIGHT.

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EXHAUSTING.
THE PENTAGON IS SAYING WE DON'T
WANT RUSSIANS TO GET PROSECUTED
FOR WAR CRIMES BECAUSE THEN

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AMERICANS COULD GET PROSECUTED
FOR WAR CRIMES.
AND I MEAN, LOOK, I AM JUST
SPITBALLING HERE, BUT ONE

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SOLUTION COULD BE THAT AMERICANS
JUST NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES?
NO?
NEVER MIND.

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THAT IS A STUPID IDEA, STUPID
IDEA.
[APPLAUSE]
BUT THIS SITUATION REALLY

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ILLUSTRATES HOW TRICKY IT IS FOR
AMERICA TO CONDEMN OTHER
COUNTRIES.
LIKE, JOE BIDEN IS JUST TRYING

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TO BE LIKE,
"IT IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE TO
INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY."
AND THE PENTAGON IS IN THE

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CORNER JUST LIKE, "UHH, LET'S
ADD "IN EUROPE."
JUST TO KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN."
IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK, ED IS

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ACTUALLY KIND OF CRAZY THAT THEY
ARE EVEN IS A CONCEPT OF WAR
CRIMES.
I AM GLAD THERE IS, BUT YOU HAVE

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TO ADMIT IT IS WEIRD WHEN YOU
THINK ABOUT IT.
IT IS LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL
SETTLE OUR DIFFERENCES BY

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KILLING EACH OTHER BUT LET'S DO
IT LIKE GENTLEMEN.
PEW PW.
BUT LET'S MOVE ON TO SOME GOOD

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NEWS.
FOR FOUR YEARS, THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
HAD A TOUGH TIME UNDER

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DONALD TRUMP.
HE JUST HONESTLY WASN'T A BIG
ENVIRONMENTALIST.
THE ONLY THING HE HAS EVER

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PLANTED AS HIS EX-WIFE ON HIS
GOLF COURSE.
GOLF JOKES CROSS THE LINE
APPARENTLY.

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WILL LOOK, IT'S A NEW DAY, AND
NOW, LIKE KE HUY QUAN, THE EPA
IS BACK AND BIGGER THAN EVER!
THE EPA TODAY PROPOSED THE

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FIRST EVER LIMITS ON SO CALLED
FOREVER CHEMICALS IN DRINKING
WATER.
THE TOXIC CHEMICALS, ALSO KNOWN

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AS PFAs, HAVE BEEN USED IN
MANUFACTURING FOR DECADES.
THESE CHEMICALS ARE USED IN
THE MANUFACTURING OF PRODUCTS

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THAT WE USE LIKE NONSTICK PANS,
WATERPROOF CLOTHING, AND
FURNITURE.
THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN IN THE

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ENVIRONMENT, AND EXPERTS SAY
THEY CAN CAUSE A HOST OF HEALTH
ISSUES.
THE EPA SAYS THE PROPOSED LIMITS

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WOULD SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES.
THIS PROPOSED RULE WILL NOW
GO THROUGH AN APPROVAL PROCESS
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS INCLUDING

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SOLICITING EXPERT AND PUBLIC
INPUT.
Kal: LOOK, I'M VERY GLAD
THEY ARE DOING THIS, ELECTIONS

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MATTER AND ALL OF THAT, BUT DO
WE REALLY NEED MONTHS OF PUBLIC
INPUT ON THIS?
LIKE, WHO ARE THE LOCAL WEIRDOS

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WHO WANT TO KEEP TOXIC WATER
CHEMICALS IN THE WATER?
"THIS IS BIG GOVERNMENT
OVERREACH.

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ALL RIGHT?
IF THEY GIVE EVERYBODY CLEAN
WATER, THAT MEANS THEY ARE GOING
TO GIVE TRANS PEOPLE CLEAN

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WATER."
IS THIS ON?
I HAVE TO SAY, IF I MAY, I LIKE
THE WAY THE CHEMICALS TASTE.

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I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
SEPARATE DRINKING FOUNTAINS.
NO, NOT FOR THE TOXINS.
JUST BECAUSE, WELL, YOU KNOW."

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ANYWAY.
LET'S JUST BE GLAD THAT FOUND A
WAY TO KEEP THESE CHEMICALS OUT
OF OUR DRINKING WATER.

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I MEAN, WE COULD JUST STOP USING
THE CHEMICALS IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
BUT THEN I'D HAVE TO SCRAPE EGG

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GUNK OFF MY PAN AND
HONESTLY, I'D RATHER DIE OF
CANCER.
FOR MORE ON THIS, WE TURN TO

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DULCE SLOAN, EVERYBODY!
DULCE!
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR ALL

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AMERICANS, RIGHT?
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE FREAKS WHO
DRINKS WATER.

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Kal: EVERYBODY DRINKS
WATER.
NO, SIR, NOT ME.
I KNEW THERE WAS CHEMICALS IN

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IT.
LOOK, THIS IS AMERICA, RIGHT?
IF SOMETHING IS FREE, THAT MEANS
THEIR CATCH, ALL RIGHT?

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IF AN APP IS FREE, THEY'RE
STEALING YOUR DATA.
IF THERE'S A FREE TRIAL, THEY'RE
HOPING YOU FORGET SO THEY CAN

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START CHARGING YOU.
AND IF A COUCH IS FREE ON
CRAIGSLIST, YOUR CHEAP ASS JUST
GOT BEDBUGS!

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Kal: DON'T YOU HAVE TO
DRINK WATER TO COME I DON'T
KNOW, SURVIVE?
NOPE!

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I GET MY HYDRATION OTHERWISE.
CAPRI SUNS.
STRAIGHT TEQUILA.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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AND YOU KNOW,
THE GUSHY PARTS OF GRAPES.
Kal: DULCE, COME ON, NOT
EVERY FREE THING IS BAD.

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WHAT ABOUT FREE SAMPLES AT
COSTCO?
DOOR WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP.
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET IN THE

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DOOR WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP.
JUST STANDING AROUND IN THAT
BITCH COSTS MONEY.
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BECAUSE NOTHING.
UNTIL THE PASTOR TAKES THE
FOURTH OFFERING.
Kal: WELL, WHAT ABOUT A WALK

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IN THE PARK WITH SOMEONE YOU
LOVE?
WALK IN THE PARK?
YOU SOUND BRO.

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BEST-CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE TO
SPLIT A
UBER.
YOU GET MARRIED, HAVE KIDS, NOW

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YOUR KIDS GOT BROKE GENES.
THAT COST CARRIES ON FOR
GENERATIONS.
Kal: FINE, FINE, BUT I KNOW

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WHAT I AM SAYING, THAT IS
DEFINITELY FREE COME OUR
FRIENDSHIP.
OH...

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KAL, LISTEN, HAVE I TAUGHT YOU
NOTHING?
THIS IS THE DULCE FREE TRIAL!
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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I MEAN, YOU WANTED KEEP TALKING
AFTER THIS, THIS WILL BE $7.99 A
MONTH.
THIS IS AMERICA, OKAY?

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Kal: DULCE SLOAN,
EVERYBODY!
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL CURE
AMERICA'S MOST DEADLY DISEASE.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
Kal: WELCOME BACK TO
"THE DAILY SHOW."

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BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE JUST
AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE
2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
AND THERE ARE SO MANY IMPORTANT

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ISSUES.
HOW TO DEAL WITH CHINA.
WHAT TO DO ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE.

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WHETHER MILEY CYRUS CAN REALLY
HOLD HER OWN HAND.
HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK?
BUT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING

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FROM REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES AND
RIGHT WING MEDIA, THERE'S ONE
ISSUE THAT LOOMS LARGER THAN ALL
OF THAT.

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IT'S THE THREAT POSED BY A
DEADLY VIRUS.
AND PROBABLY NOT THE ONE YOU'RE
THINKING OF.

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WOKENESS IS A VIRUS MORE
DANGEROUS THAN ANY PANDEMIC
HANDS DOWN.
I THINK IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF

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THE WOKE MIND VIRUS.
WHAT IF WOKE RACE OBSESSION
IS NOT A FAD, BUT INSTEAD, AN
INCURABLE BRAIN VIRUS THAT HAS

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INFECTED OUR COUNTRY'S ENTIRE
LEADERSHIP CLASS?
THIS WOKE VIRUS.
THE WOKE MIND VIRUS.

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THE WOKE MIND VIRUS.
IT IS A VIRUS.
Kal: YEP!
REPUBLICANS ARE TERRIFIED OF THE

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WOKE MIND VIRUS!
I MEAN, TO BE CLEAR, NOT ENOUGH
TO SUPPORT PUBLIC HEALTHCARE TO
TREAT IT.

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BUT TERRIFIED!
[APPLAUSE]
[LAUGHS]
NOW, I AM NOT A DOCTOR, AS MY

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PARENTS REMIND ME DAILY.
BUT I DID PLAY
DR. LAWRENCE KUTNER ON THE HIT
TV SHOW "HOUSE."

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
AND I REALIZED THAT IF ANYONE

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COULD FIND A CURE FOR THE WOKE
MIND VIRUS, IT WOULD BE THOSE
GUYS.
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SO I ACTUALLY FEEL FINE.
AM I OKAY TO LEAVE NOW?
NOT QUITE.
YOUR BRAIN HAS BEEN SWOLLEN.

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GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IF HAD HAS
DEVOLVED INTO YOUR PERSONALITY.
I AM SO SORRY.
WE BELIEVE IT IS THE WOKE MIND

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VIRUS.
WE HAVE TO ASK YOU A FEW
QUESTIONS TO CONFIRM.
ARE YOU PI POST OFFICE STUFF?

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NO, WHO GIVES A SHIT?
THERE IS A TRANSFORMER AT
THE LOCAL EIGHTH GRADE MEAT.
IS THAT UNFAIR TO YOU?

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I DON'T CARE.
NEXT QUESTION.
DOES RACISM STILL EXISTS?
YES.

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GOING TO START TO SAY WHAT
NEXT IN A MINUTE?
I AM SORRY, WHAT IS GOING ON
HERE?

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THIS IS THE GREATEST THREAT
FACING CIVILIZATION.
THE GREAT DOCTOR ELON MUSK SAID
SO.

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I'M NOT SICK, ALTHOUGH THIS
NONSENSE IS GOING TO GIVE ME A
HEADACHE.
MR. MORGENTHAU, I KNOW THAT

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YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE
THIS.
MORGENTHALER.
IT IS ONE OF THE OLD YOU NAMES.

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WHAT THE [BLEEP].
LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
DO YOU AGREE THAT DRUG SHOWS ARE
A GREATER THREAT THAN SCHOOL

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SHOOTINGS?
NO, OF COURSE NOT!
AND I DON'T HAVE WOKE MIND VIRUS
EITHER, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE IN

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A PATHETIC PERSON.
WE ARE LOSING HIM!
WE NEED TO GET YOU TO A CRT
SCAN.

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DON'T YOU MEAN A CT SCAN?
NO.
I WILL CHECK MYSELF OUT.
[BEEPING]

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[APPLAUSE]
WHAT?
WHAT HAPPENED?
AM I OKAY?

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LET'S FIND OUT.
WHAT ARE YOUR PRONOUNS?
PRONOUNS?
MY PRONOUNS?

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MY PRONOUNS ARE ALYSS...ICE
KISS MY ASS.
[LAUGHS]
YEAH.

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YOU ARE GOING TO BE OKAY.
OH, NO.
♪ ♪
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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Kal: ALL RIGHT, STAY TUNED
BECAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK,
RADHIKA JONES WILL BE JOINING ME
ON THE SHOW.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
Kal: WELCOME BACK TO
"THE DAILY SHOW."

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MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE EDITOR
IN CHIEF OF "VANITY FAIR."
THEIR HOLLYWOOD ISSUE IS ON
NEWSSTANDS NOW AND AVAILABLE AT

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VanityFair.com.
PLEASE WELCOME RADHIKA JONES!
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
♪ ♪

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GREAT TO SEE YOU!
♪ ♪
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
WOW.

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OKAY.
EDITOR IN CHIEF OF "VANITY FAIR"
FOR FIVE YEARS.
I KNOW YOU THROW THE BIGGEST

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PARTY OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS A
"VANITY FAIR" OSCAR PARTY THAT
JUST HAPPEN.
THAT IS RIGHT.

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Kal: SUNDAY NIGHT.
SUNDAY NIGHT.
Kal: HAD TO GO?
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT, ANY

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GREAT STORIES?
IT WAS A LOT OF FUN, IT WAS A
GREAT TIME IN HOLLYWOOD.
Kal: IS THAT WHERE

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JUSTIN BIEBER WORE A BLANKET?
HE DID.
Kal: I'M NOT HATING ON HIM,
I WOULD ROCK A BLANKET IF I

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COULD PULL IT OFF.
HE WAS VERY COZY, WE WANT
PEOPLE TO GET BACK AND RELAX AND
JUST AND REALLY EMBODIED THAT.

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Kal: THE STORIES THAT COME
OUT OF THAT ARE A GREAT
COMBINATION OF POP CULTURE,
FASHION, THINGS WITH GRAVITY,

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I'VE BEEN MYSELF AND I AM ALWAYS
SURPRISED WHEN THERE IS ELECTED
OFFICIALS, AUTHORS WHO HAVE WON
PULITZERS NEXT TO PEOPLE WHOSE

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MOVIES YOU JUST WALKED OUT OF.
HOW DO YOU CURATE A LIST LIKE
THAT?
[LAUGHTER]

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FOR THE RECORD, I WATCH ALL THE
MOVIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
[LAUGHTER]
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, KAL.

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WELCOME A "VANITY FAIR" IS ALL
ABOUT THE MIX BECAUSE WE COVER
THINGS, WE COVER POLITICS,
WE COVER CULTURE, WE COVER

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ENTERTAINMENT, SO IT WAS SUCH A
COOL -- I MEAN, THIS YEAR, FOR
EXAMPLE, WE HAD TWO NOBEL
LAUREATES IN ATTENDANCE.

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MALALA WAS THERE, SHE PRODUCED A
FILM THAT WAS NOMINATED FOR AN
OSCAR.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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NANCY AND PAUL PELOSI WERE
THERE.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THEY JOINED ME FOR MY VIEWING

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DINNER THAT I HOST BEFORE THE
PARTY AND THAT WAS SUPER FUN.
WE SAT WITH DONALD GLOVER AND
MICHAEL KEATON.

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SO IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MIX AND
THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A LIVELY
AND UNIQUE EVENT.
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LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO GET INTO.
AND I AM CURIOUS, LIKE, WHAT IS
THE CRAZIEST BRIBE YOU EVER BEEN
OFFERED FOR ENTRY TO THE

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"VANITY FAIR" OSCAR PARTY?
SO I OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO
GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS.
[LAUGHTER]

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SO I WILL NOT BE ANSWERING THAT
QUESTION THAT QUESTION.
Kal: I DIDN'T ASK YOU IF
THEY WORKED.

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THEY NEVER WORK, NO.
I AM LIKE, NO, NO.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY
ONCE BROUGHT A FAKE OSCAR TO THE

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PARTY.
Kal: NO!
THAT HIS GANGSTER.
YEAH, IF ANYONE IS IN THE

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HABIT OF MELTING GOLD, JUST
BRING THAT LEGO OSCAR STATUE,
THAT IS SUPER COOL.
TRY IT, TRY YOUR LUCK.

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ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
Kal: DID THEY GET IN?
I DON'T KNOW, ACTUALLY.
IT IS WAR.

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[LAUGHTER]
Kal: SOMETHING THAT I FIND
SO INTERESTING AND DYNAMIC ABOUT
YOU IS THAT IN THE FIVE YEARS

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SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN EDITOR IN
CHIEF, "VANITY FAIR" HAS
INCREASED ITS FOOTPRINT, ITS
AUDIENCE, ITS READERSHIP, AT A

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TIME WHEN MOST MEDIA OUTLETS ARE
SHRINKING IN DRAMATIC FASHION.
HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO GROW THE
BRAND LIKE THAT?

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YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY PROUD
OF IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
Kal: OF COURSE.

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I FEEL LIKE WHEN I CAME TO
"VANITY FAIR," I FELT LIKE IT
WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL
PROPERTY.

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AND I GOT TO TAKE MY ROLE AS
EDITOR IN CHIEF AT A TIME WHEN
ARBORICULTURE WAS DRAMATICALLY
CHANGING.

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THE ME TOO MOVEMENT WAS JUST
GETTING GOING, AND THERE WERE
JUST A A LOT OF IMPORTANT
CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD AMONG

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EVERYBODY REALLY ABOUT WHO HOLDS
POWER, WHO GETS TO HAVE A VOICE
IN OUR COUNTRY, OUR CULTURE, AND
WHO DO WE PUT ON PEDESTALS?

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WHO DO WE LOOK UP TO?
AND I FELT LIKE "VANITY FAIR"
HAS IS REALLY POWERFUL LEGACY OF
BEING ABLE TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT

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ON PEOPLE WHO REALLY MATTER AND
PEOPLE WE THOUGHT ARE IMPORTANT.
AND SO TO BE ABLE TO MONETIZE
THE BRAND AND MAKE IT REALLY

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FRESH AND FORWARD LOOKING TO
MAKE IT MORE DIVERSE, TO ME,
THAT JUST FELT LIKE, NOT ONLY
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BUT IT WAS THE EXCITING THING TO
DO.
I MEAN, THE CULTURE IS DYNAMIC.
IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.

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YOU ARE A PART OF THAT.
AND I THINK IT IS REALLY
REWARDING, NOT ONLY FOR US WHO
ARE MAKING THE MAGAZINE, YOU

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KNOW, WORKING ON THE SITE EVERY
DAY, CURATING A SOCIAL FEEDS,
MAKING THE VIDEO, ALL OF THOSE
THINGS, IT'S REWARDING FOR US

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BUT IT'S ALSO REWARDING FOR OUR
READERS, THEY REALLY WANT TO BE
ABLE TO DISCOVER WHAT IS NEW,
WHAT IS FRESH.

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THAT WAS THE POINT OF OUR
HOLLYWOOD COVER THIS YEAR.
Kal: I WANT TO ASK YOU
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EVERYONE ON THE COVER IS
UNDER 35.
IT'S THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL
GENERATION OF HOLLYWOOD TALENT.

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YOU KNOW, AUSTIN BUTLER, ANA DE
ARMAS, THEY ARE AT THE BEGINNING
OF THEIR CAREERS, PEOPLE HE
JULIA GARNER, JONATHAN MAJORS, T

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IS EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO
LOOK AT THE FUTURE THROUGH
PEOPLE LIKE THAT, AND FOR US TO
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THAT HAS BEEN OUR MISSION AND TO
HAVE IT RESONATE AND TO SEE
THEIR SUCCESS AND SEE IT REACH
AUDIENCES IS JUST REALLY

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GRATIFYING.
Kal: IT IS AN INCREDIBLE
THING TO WITNESS AS A FAN OF THE
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ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO
WHO WORKS IN ENTERTAINMENT, I
OFTEN FEEL LIKE I AM IN FIGHTING
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POSITION, I'M FIGHTING TO PROVE
TO FOLKS WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT
HIGHER UP THAN ME WHY I WANT TO
CAST SOMEBODY OR HIGHER THIS

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PARTICULAR WRITER ESPECIALLY IF
THEY COME FROM A DIVERSE
BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THAT IT'S
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NEPOTISM YOU'RE FIGHTING
AGAINST.
YOU HAVE REALLY SHAKEN UP THIS
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YOU HAVE NEW CONTRIBUTORS.
THE STORIES YOU ARE TELLING ARE
NEVER AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEBODY
WHO IS NOT QUALIFIED.

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YOU ARE BRINGING THESE DIVERSE
VOICES FROM INCREDIBLE AMERICAN
AND GLOBAL VIEWPOINTS.
WAS THAT HARD TO DO WHEN YOU GOT

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TO THE EDITOR SEAT OR WAS THAT
AN EASY CHANGE?
I MEAN, I JUST KIND OF PLOWED
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[LAUGHS]
I FIGURED SOMEONE WOULD TELL ME
TO STOP.
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IN FACT, I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT,
AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU SEE IT
RESONATING WITH READERS, WITH
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I THINK, THE REASON I DO THIS
JOB IS I LIKE TAKING RISKS.
AND I LIKE BEING ABLE TO ELEVATE
NEW VOICES.

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I HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT.
I WANT TO PASS THAT ALONG.
NO, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WHEN
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THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND
THEY SAID, GO FOR IT, AND HERE
WE ARE.
Kal: I WANT TO WRAP UP, YOU

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SORT OF ALLUDED TO SHOUT OUTS,
AND I LOVE, WHETHER IT IS YOUR
SOCIAL MEDIA OR THINGS THAT THE
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UP-AND-COMING BRANDS.
AND THESE ARE INCREDIBLY
TALENTED, OFTEN TIMES,
COMMUNITY -- FOLKS FROM

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COMMUNITY OF COLOR, YOUNG
START-UPS, PEOPLE WITH REALLY
INTERESTING STORIES THAT FEED
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HOW DO YOU FIND THIS PEOPLE?
I THINK THAT I AM LUCKY TO
WORK WITH A TEAM THAT IS DEEPLY
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OMNIVOROUS.
THAT IS HOW I FEEL TOO.
I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE
DIVISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN OUR

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CULTURE OR A LITTLE ARTIFICIAL.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT
OF A GUILTY PLEASURE.
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[LAUGHTER]
SO I TRY TO APPLY THAT TO THE
KEY RATION OF THE MAGAZINE.
AND WHAT WE DO IS REALLY SERIOUS

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INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM BOAT WE
ARE ALSO HERE TO HAVE FUN AND WE
WANT OUR READERS TO HAVE FUN AND
THAT IS COMING BACK TO THE OSCAR

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PARTY, THAT IS KIND OF WHAT IT'S
ALL ABOUT.
Kal: THIS IS A VERY FUN
ISSUE.

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IT IS THE 29TH ANNUAL HOLLYWOOD
ISSUE ON "VANITY FAIR."
PLEASE, THANKS SO MUCH TO MY
GUESTS, RADHIKA JONES!

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WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK
BREAK BUT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK
AFTER THIS!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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♪ ♪
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
Kal: THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR
TONIGHT!

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WERE BEFORE WE GO, PLEASE
CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE
SUNRISE MOVEMENT EDUCATION FUND.
THEIR YOUTH LED MOVEMENT CREATES

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POLITICAL ACTION ON CLIMATE
CHANGE ACROSS AMERICA.
IF YOU CAN, PLEASE DONATE AT THE
LINK BELOW.

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NOW HERE IT IS, YOUR
"MOMENT OF ZEN."
PEOPLE CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO
BE WOKE.

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?
WOULD YOU MIND DEFINING WOKE?
IT IS, BY A COUPLE TIMES AND I
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE

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SAME PAGE.
SO, I MEAN, WOKE IS SORT OF
THE IDEA THAT --
SO IT -- I --