♪ ♪ Announcer: FROM NEW YORK CITY, THE ONLY CITY IN AMERICA, IT'S THE SHOW THAT
INVENTED NEWS. THIS IS "THE DAILY SHOW" WITH YOUR HOST, KAL PENN! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
♪ ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] Kal: WELCOME TO "THE DAILY SHOW!"
I'M KAL PENN. THIS IS MY THIRD NIGHT, AND THIS JOB IS WAY BETTER THAN WHEN I WORKED AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
I CAN EAT CANDY FOR LUNCH WITHOUT MICHELLE OBAMA JUDGING ME FOR IT. ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW
FOR YOU TONIGHT. MY GUEST IS "VANITY FAIR" EDITOR RADHIKA JONES. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
YEAH, SHE'S WONDERFUL. BUT THERE'S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, SO LET'S GET INTO HEADLINES! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
♪ ♪ LET'S KICK THINGS OFF WITH A BIG UPDATE ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO IS WORRIED THAT AI IS GETTING TOO SMART TO FAST, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TELL ALEXIS TO
TURN YOUR TV OFF. ARTIFICIAL ARTIFICIAL INTELT GOT MORE REAL. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
TAKING A DIZZYING LEAP FORWARD. OPENAI THE COMPANY BEHIND CHATGPT, WHICH CAME ON THE SCENE JUST FOUR MONTHS AGO, OUT WITH
ITS LATEST INNOVATION, GPT4. IT CAN SUMMARIZE ARTICLES, CRAFT JOKES, AND EVEN DECIPHER IMAGES.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN TELL US THAT IF THE STRINGS IN THIS IMAGE WERE CUT, THE BALLOONS WOULD FLY AWAY.
AFTER SCANNING A PICTURE OF WHAT'S IN YOUR CUPBOARD OR FRIDGE, IT CAN SERVE UP OPTIONS FOR A RECIPE.
THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF CHATGTP HAD ABOUT A 10% CHANCE OF PASSING THE BAR EXAM FOR LAWYERS.
THIS NEW VERSION THAT IS BEING INTRODUCED TODAY HAS ABOUT 90% CHANCE OF PASSING THE BAR. Kal: DID YOU HEAR THAT?
IN FOUR MONTHS, THIS THING WENT FROM BEING BORN TO ACING THE BAR EXAM! WHAT CAN YOUR DUMB-ASS
4-MONTH-OLD TO DO? OH, DID YOU SEE THAT? HE LOOKED TO BE EYES AND ROLLED OVER.
[APPLAUSE] I WORKED IN THE WHITE HOUSE! AND KEEP IN MIND, THE BAR EXAM ISN'T JUST A MULTIPLE-CHOICE
TEST. YOU HAVE TO WRITE ESSAYS, YOU HAVE TO KNOW CASE LAW, YOU HAVE TO SPOT ISSUES,
AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BE SMUG WHEN YOU SAY, "OH, I WENT TO SCHOOL IN NEW HAVEN."
THE POINT IS, THIS THING IS LEARNING FAST. ONCE THIS THING FIGURES OUT HOW TO GET DRUNK AND GROPE SOMEONE,
IT WILL BE QUALIFIED FOR THE SUPREME COURT. AND THE OTHER BIG UPDATE IS WITH THIS NEW VERSION IS THAT THIS
CAN ANALYZE PHOTOS. LIKE A PHOTO OF WHAT IS IN YOUR FRIDGE. I DON'T WANT THAT!
"YOU HAVE TOO MANY CANDY BARS, ALERTING MICHELLE OBAMA." THE BIG PICTURE HERE IS THAT AI IS GOING TO DO SO MANY THINGS SO
WELL THAT AT SOME POINT, IT'S GOING TO PUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK. SO WHAT DO WE DO?
I HAVE TWO IDEAS. ONE: IMPLEMENT UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THERE YOU GO. OR TWO -- AND HEAR ME OUT HERE, WE LET THE MACHINES EAT ALL THE SURPLUS PEOPLE.
NO? OKAY, YEAH, LESS POPULAR, I CAN TELL. ENOUGH ABOUT MACHINES KILLING
PEOPLE. LET'S MOVE ON TO PEOPLE KILLING PEOPLE. GOT REALLY DARK, I KNOW.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE RUSSIA ILLEGALLY INVADED UKRAINE. AND NOW THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL
EFFORT TO HOLD RUSSIA ACCOUNTABLE IN COURT FOR WAR CRIMES. BUT YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHO'S
STANDING IN THE WAY. THE PENTAGON IS BLOCKING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FROM SHARING EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN WAR
CRIMES COMMITTED IN UKRAINE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT. MILITARY LEADERS SAY HELPING THE
COURT WITH THE INVESTIGATION WOULD SET A PRECEDENT THAT COULD LEAD TO PROSECUTING AMERICANS. Kal: THAT'S RIGHT.
EXHAUSTING. THE PENTAGON IS SAYING WE DON'T WANT RUSSIANS TO GET PROSECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES BECAUSE THEN
AMERICANS COULD GET PROSECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES. AND I MEAN, LOOK, I AM JUST SPITBALLING HERE, BUT ONE
SOLUTION COULD BE THAT AMERICANS JUST NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES? NO? NEVER MIND.
THAT IS A STUPID IDEA, STUPID IDEA. [APPLAUSE] BUT THIS SITUATION REALLY
ILLUSTRATES HOW TRICKY IT IS FOR AMERICA TO CONDEMN OTHER COUNTRIES. LIKE, JOE BIDEN IS JUST TRYING
TO BE LIKE, "IT IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE TO INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY." AND THE PENTAGON IS IN THE
CORNER JUST LIKE, "UHH, LET'S ADD "IN EUROPE." JUST TO KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN." IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK, ED IS
ACTUALLY KIND OF CRAZY THAT THEY ARE EVEN IS A CONCEPT OF WAR CRIMES. I AM GLAD THERE IS, BUT YOU HAVE
TO ADMIT IT IS WEIRD WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. IT IS LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL SETTLE OUR DIFFERENCES BY
KILLING EACH OTHER BUT LET'S DO IT LIKE GENTLEMEN. PEW PW. BUT LET'S MOVE ON TO SOME GOOD
NEWS. FOR FOUR YEARS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAD A TOUGH TIME UNDER
DONALD TRUMP. HE JUST HONESTLY WASN'T A BIG ENVIRONMENTALIST. THE ONLY THING HE HAS EVER
PLANTED AS HIS EX-WIFE ON HIS GOLF COURSE. GOLF JOKES CROSS THE LINE APPARENTLY.
WILL LOOK, IT'S A NEW DAY, AND NOW, LIKE KE HUY QUAN, THE EPA IS BACK AND BIGGER THAN EVER! THE EPA TODAY PROPOSED THE
FIRST EVER LIMITS ON SO CALLED FOREVER CHEMICALS IN DRINKING WATER. THE TOXIC CHEMICALS, ALSO KNOWN
AS PFAs, HAVE BEEN USED IN MANUFACTURING FOR DECADES. THESE CHEMICALS ARE USED IN THE MANUFACTURING OF PRODUCTS
THAT WE USE LIKE NONSTICK PANS, WATERPROOF CLOTHING, AND FURNITURE. THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN IN THE
ENVIRONMENT, AND EXPERTS SAY THEY CAN CAUSE A HOST OF HEALTH ISSUES. THE EPA SAYS THE PROPOSED LIMITS
WOULD SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES. THIS PROPOSED RULE WILL NOW GO THROUGH AN APPROVAL PROCESS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS INCLUDING
SOLICITING EXPERT AND PUBLIC INPUT. Kal: LOOK, I'M VERY GLAD THEY ARE DOING THIS, ELECTIONS
MATTER AND ALL OF THAT, BUT DO WE REALLY NEED MONTHS OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS? LIKE, WHO ARE THE LOCAL WEIRDOS
WHO WANT TO KEEP TOXIC WATER CHEMICALS IN THE WATER? "THIS IS BIG GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.
ALL RIGHT? IF THEY GIVE EVERYBODY CLEAN WATER, THAT MEANS THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE TRANS PEOPLE CLEAN
WATER." IS THIS ON? I HAVE TO SAY, IF I MAY, I LIKE THE WAY THE CHEMICALS TASTE.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SEPARATE DRINKING FOUNTAINS. NO, NOT FOR THE TOXINS. JUST BECAUSE, WELL, YOU KNOW."
ANYWAY. LET'S JUST BE GLAD THAT FOUND A WAY TO KEEP THESE CHEMICALS OUT OF OUR DRINKING WATER.
I MEAN, WE COULD JUST STOP USING THE CHEMICALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT THEN I'D HAVE TO SCRAPE EGG
GUNK OFF MY PAN AND HONESTLY, I'D RATHER DIE OF CANCER. FOR MORE ON THIS, WE TURN TO
DULCE SLOAN, EVERYBODY! DULCE! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR ALL
AMERICANS, RIGHT? SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE FREAKS WHO DRINKS WATER.
Kal: EVERYBODY DRINKS WATER. NO, SIR, NOT ME. I KNEW THERE WAS CHEMICALS IN
IT. LOOK, THIS IS AMERICA, RIGHT? IF SOMETHING IS FREE, THAT MEANS THEIR CATCH, ALL RIGHT?
IF AN APP IS FREE, THEY'RE STEALING YOUR DATA. IF THERE'S A FREE TRIAL, THEY'RE HOPING YOU FORGET SO THEY CAN
START CHARGING YOU. AND IF A COUCH IS FREE ON CRAIGSLIST, YOUR CHEAP ASS JUST GOT BEDBUGS!
Kal: DON'T YOU HAVE TO DRINK WATER TO COME I DON'T KNOW, SURVIVE? NOPE!
I GET MY HYDRATION OTHERWISE. CAPRI SUNS. STRAIGHT TEQUILA. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
AND YOU KNOW, THE GUSHY PARTS OF GRAPES. Kal: DULCE, COME ON, NOT EVERY FREE THING IS BAD.
WHAT ABOUT FREE SAMPLES AT COSTCO? DOOR WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET IN THE
DOOR WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP. JUST STANDING AROUND IN THAT BITCH COSTS MONEY. Kal: GOING TO CHURCH TAKES,
BECAUSE NOTHING. UNTIL THE PASTOR TAKES THE FOURTH OFFERING. Kal: WELL, WHAT ABOUT A WALK
IN THE PARK WITH SOMEONE YOU LOVE? WALK IN THE PARK? YOU SOUND BRO.
BEST-CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE TO SPLIT A UBER. YOU GET MARRIED, HAVE KIDS, NOW
YOUR KIDS GOT BROKE GENES. THAT COST CARRIES ON FOR GENERATIONS. Kal: FINE, FINE, BUT I KNOW
WHAT I AM SAYING, THAT IS DEFINITELY FREE COME OUR FRIENDSHIP. OH...
KAL, LISTEN, HAVE I TAUGHT YOU NOTHING? THIS IS THE DULCE FREE TRIAL! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
I MEAN, YOU WANTED KEEP TALKING AFTER THIS, THIS WILL BE $7.99 A MONTH. THIS IS AMERICA, OKAY?
Kal: DULCE SLOAN, EVERYBODY! WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL CURE AMERICA'S MOST DEADLY DISEASE.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] Kal: WELCOME BACK TO "THE DAILY SHOW."
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AND THERE ARE SO MANY IMPORTANT
ISSUES. HOW TO DEAL WITH CHINA. WHAT TO DO ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.
WHETHER MILEY CYRUS CAN REALLY HOLD HER OWN HAND. HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK? BUT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING
FROM REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES AND RIGHT WING MEDIA, THERE'S ONE ISSUE THAT LOOMS LARGER THAN ALL OF THAT.
IT'S THE THREAT POSED BY A DEADLY VIRUS. AND PROBABLY NOT THE ONE YOU'RE THINKING OF.
WOKENESS IS A VIRUS MORE DANGEROUS THAN ANY PANDEMIC HANDS DOWN. I THINK IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF
THE WOKE MIND VIRUS. WHAT IF WOKE RACE OBSESSION IS NOT A FAD, BUT INSTEAD, AN INCURABLE BRAIN VIRUS THAT HAS
INFECTED OUR COUNTRY'S ENTIRE LEADERSHIP CLASS? THIS WOKE VIRUS. THE WOKE MIND VIRUS.
IT IS A VIRUS. Kal: YEP! REPUBLICANS ARE TERRIFIED OF THE
WOKE MIND VIRUS! I MEAN, TO BE CLEAR, NOT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT PUBLIC HEALTHCARE TO TREAT IT.
BUT TERRIFIED! [APPLAUSE] [LAUGHS] NOW, I AM NOT A DOCTOR, AS MY
PARENTS REMIND ME DAILY. BUT I DID PLAY DR. LAWRENCE KUTNER ON THE HIT TV SHOW "HOUSE."
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I REALIZED THAT IF ANYONE
COULD FIND A CURE FOR THE WOKE MIND VIRUS, IT WOULD BE THOSE GUYS. ♪ ♪
SO I ACTUALLY FEEL FINE. AM I OKAY TO LEAVE NOW? NOT QUITE. YOUR BRAIN HAS BEEN SWOLLEN.
GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IF HAD HAS DEVOLVED INTO YOUR PERSONALITY. I AM SO SORRY. WE BELIEVE IT IS THE WOKE MIND
VIRUS. WE HAVE TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS TO CONFIRM. ARE YOU PI POST OFFICE STUFF?
NO, WHO GIVES A SHIT? THERE IS A TRANSFORMER AT THE LOCAL EIGHTH GRADE MEAT. IS THAT UNFAIR TO YOU?
I DON'T CARE. NEXT QUESTION. DOES RACISM STILL EXISTS? YES.
GOING TO START TO SAY WHAT NEXT IN A MINUTE? I AM SORRY, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
THIS IS THE GREATEST THREAT FACING CIVILIZATION. THE GREAT DOCTOR ELON MUSK SAID SO.
I'M NOT SICK, ALTHOUGH THIS NONSENSE IS GOING TO GIVE ME A HEADACHE. MR. MORGENTHAU, I KNOW THAT
YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THIS. MORGENTHALER. IT IS ONE OF THE OLD YOU NAMES.
WHAT THE [BLEEP]. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU AGREE THAT DRUG SHOWS ARE A GREATER THREAT THAN SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS? NO, OF COURSE NOT! AND I DON'T HAVE WOKE MIND VIRUS EITHER, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE IN
A PATHETIC PERSON. WE ARE LOSING HIM! WE NEED TO GET YOU TO A CRT SCAN.
DON'T YOU MEAN A CT SCAN? NO. I WILL CHECK MYSELF OUT. [BEEPING]
[APPLAUSE] WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED? AM I OKAY?
LET'S FIND OUT. WHAT ARE YOUR PRONOUNS? PRONOUNS? MY PRONOUNS?
MY PRONOUNS ARE ALYSS...ICE KISS MY ASS. [LAUGHS] YEAH.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE OKAY. OH, NO. ♪ ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
Kal: ALL RIGHT, STAY TUNED BECAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK, RADHIKA JONES WILL BE JOINING ME ON THE SHOW.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] Kal: WELCOME BACK TO "THE DAILY SHOW."
MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE EDITOR IN CHIEF OF "VANITY FAIR." THEIR HOLLYWOOD ISSUE IS ON NEWSSTANDS NOW AND AVAILABLE AT
VanityFair.com. PLEASE WELCOME RADHIKA JONES! [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] ♪ ♪
GREAT TO SEE YOU! ♪ ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] WOW.
OKAY. EDITOR IN CHIEF OF "VANITY FAIR" FOR FIVE YEARS. I KNOW YOU THROW THE BIGGEST
PARTY OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS A "VANITY FAIR" OSCAR PARTY THAT JUST HAPPEN. THAT IS RIGHT.
Kal: SUNDAY NIGHT. SUNDAY NIGHT. Kal: HAD TO GO? CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT, ANY
GREAT STORIES? IT WAS A LOT OF FUN, IT WAS A GREAT TIME IN HOLLYWOOD. Kal: IS THAT WHERE
JUSTIN BIEBER WORE A BLANKET? HE DID. Kal: I'M NOT HATING ON HIM, I WOULD ROCK A BLANKET IF I
COULD PULL IT OFF. HE WAS VERY COZY, WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET BACK AND RELAX AND JUST AND REALLY EMBODIED THAT.
Kal: THE STORIES THAT COME OUT OF THAT ARE A GREAT COMBINATION OF POP CULTURE, FASHION, THINGS WITH GRAVITY,
I'VE BEEN MYSELF AND I AM ALWAYS SURPRISED WHEN THERE IS ELECTED OFFICIALS, AUTHORS WHO HAVE WON PULITZERS NEXT TO PEOPLE WHOSE
MOVIES YOU JUST WALKED OUT OF. HOW DO YOU CURATE A LIST LIKE THAT? [LAUGHTER]
FOR THE RECORD, I WATCH ALL THE MOVIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH. [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, KAL.
WELCOME A "VANITY FAIR" IS ALL ABOUT THE MIX BECAUSE WE COVER THINGS, WE COVER POLITICS, WE COVER CULTURE, WE COVER
ENTERTAINMENT, SO IT WAS SUCH A COOL -- I MEAN, THIS YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD TWO NOBEL LAUREATES IN ATTENDANCE.
MALALA WAS THERE, SHE PRODUCED A FILM THAT WAS NOMINATED FOR AN OSCAR. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
NANCY AND PAUL PELOSI WERE THERE. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THEY JOINED ME FOR MY VIEWING
DINNER THAT I HOST BEFORE THE PARTY AND THAT WAS SUPER FUN. WE SAT WITH DONALD GLOVER AND MICHAEL KEATON.
SO IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MIX AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A LIVELY AND UNIQUE EVENT. Kal: IT IS AN EVENT THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO GET INTO. AND I AM CURIOUS, LIKE, WHAT IS THE CRAZIEST BRIBE YOU EVER BEEN OFFERED FOR ENTRY TO THE
"VANITY FAIR" OSCAR PARTY? SO I OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS. [LAUGHTER]
SO I WILL NOT BE ANSWERING THAT QUESTION THAT QUESTION. Kal: I DIDN'T ASK YOU IF THEY WORKED.
THEY NEVER WORK, NO. I AM LIKE, NO, NO. I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY ONCE BROUGHT A FAKE OSCAR TO THE
PARTY. Kal: NO! THAT HIS GANGSTER. YEAH, IF ANYONE IS IN THE
HABIT OF MELTING GOLD, JUST BRING THAT LEGO OSCAR STATUE, THAT IS SUPER COOL. TRY IT, TRY YOUR LUCK.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY. Kal: DID THEY GET IN? I DON'T KNOW, ACTUALLY. IT IS WAR.
[LAUGHTER] Kal: SOMETHING THAT I FIND SO INTERESTING AND DYNAMIC ABOUT YOU IS THAT IN THE FIVE YEARS
SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN EDITOR IN CHIEF, "VANITY FAIR" HAS INCREASED ITS FOOTPRINT, ITS AUDIENCE, ITS READERSHIP, AT A
TIME WHEN MOST MEDIA OUTLETS ARE SHRINKING IN DRAMATIC FASHION. HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO GROW THE BRAND LIKE THAT?
YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IT. AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. Kal: OF COURSE.
I FEEL LIKE WHEN I CAME TO "VANITY FAIR," I FELT LIKE IT WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL PROPERTY.
AND I GOT TO TAKE MY ROLE AS EDITOR IN CHIEF AT A TIME WHEN ARBORICULTURE WAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGING.
THE ME TOO MOVEMENT WAS JUST GETTING GOING, AND THERE WERE JUST A A LOT OF IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD AMONG
EVERYBODY REALLY ABOUT WHO HOLDS POWER, WHO GETS TO HAVE A VOICE IN OUR COUNTRY, OUR CULTURE, AND WHO DO WE PUT ON PEDESTALS?
WHO DO WE LOOK UP TO? AND I FELT LIKE "VANITY FAIR" HAS IS REALLY POWERFUL LEGACY OF BEING ABLE TO SHINE A SPOTLIGHT
ON PEOPLE WHO REALLY MATTER AND PEOPLE WE THOUGHT ARE IMPORTANT. AND SO TO BE ABLE TO MONETIZE THE BRAND AND MAKE IT REALLY
FRESH AND FORWARD LOOKING TO MAKE IT MORE DIVERSE, TO ME, THAT JUST FELT LIKE, NOT ONLY WAS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO,
BUT IT WAS THE EXCITING THING TO DO. I MEAN, THE CULTURE IS DYNAMIC. IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.
YOU ARE A PART OF THAT. AND I THINK IT IS REALLY REWARDING, NOT ONLY FOR US WHO ARE MAKING THE MAGAZINE, YOU
KNOW, WORKING ON THE SITE EVERY DAY, CURATING A SOCIAL FEEDS, MAKING THE VIDEO, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S REWARDING FOR US
BUT IT'S ALSO REWARDING FOR OUR READERS, THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCOVER WHAT IS NEW, WHAT IS FRESH.
THAT WAS THE POINT OF OUR HOLLYWOOD COVER THIS YEAR. Kal: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
EVERYONE ON THE COVER IS UNDER 35. IT'S THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL GENERATION OF HOLLYWOOD TALENT.
YOU KNOW, AUSTIN BUTLER, ANA DE ARMAS, THEY ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR CAREERS, PEOPLE HE JULIA GARNER, JONATHAN MAJORS, T
IS EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE THAT, AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ELEVATE THEM.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR MISSION AND TO HAVE IT RESONATE AND TO SEE THEIR SUCCESS AND SEE IT REACH AUDIENCES IS JUST REALLY
GRATIFYING. Kal: IT IS AN INCREDIBLE THING TO WITNESS AS A FAN OF THE BRAND AND THE FRANCHISE,
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO WHO WORKS IN ENTERTAINMENT, I OFTEN FEEL LIKE I AM IN FIGHTING WHEN I'M IN A LEADERSHIP
POSITION, I'M FIGHTING TO PROVE TO FOLKS WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER UP THAN ME WHY I WANT TO CAST SOMEBODY OR HIGHER THIS
PARTICULAR WRITER ESPECIALLY IF THEY COME FROM A DIVERSE BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THAT IT'S AS USUAL, SOME OF THAT IS
NEPOTISM YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST. YOU HAVE REALLY SHAKEN UP THIS MAGAZINE.
YOU HAVE NEW CONTRIBUTORS. THE STORIES YOU ARE TELLING ARE NEVER AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT QUALIFIED.
YOU ARE BRINGING THESE DIVERSE VOICES FROM INCREDIBLE AMERICAN AND GLOBAL VIEWPOINTS. WAS THAT HARD TO DO WHEN YOU GOT
TO THE EDITOR SEAT OR WAS THAT AN EASY CHANGE? I MEAN, I JUST KIND OF PLOWED AHEAD AND DID IT.
[LAUGHS] I FIGURED SOMEONE WOULD TELL ME TO STOP. BUT NOBODY DID.
IN FACT, I HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU SEE IT RESONATING WITH READERS, WITH VIEWERS, THAT IS THE PROOF.
I THINK, THE REASON I DO THIS JOB IS I LIKE TAKING RISKS. AND I LIKE BEING ABLE TO ELEVATE NEW VOICES.
I HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT. I WANT TO PASS THAT ALONG. NO, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WHEN I CAME TO THE MAGAZINE, I SAID,
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND THEY SAID, GO FOR IT, AND HERE WE ARE. Kal: I WANT TO WRAP UP, YOU
SORT OF ALLUDED TO SHOUT OUTS, AND I LOVE, WHETHER IT IS YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA OR THINGS THAT THE MAGAZINE DOES, HIGHLIGHTING
UP-AND-COMING BRANDS. AND THESE ARE INCREDIBLY TALENTED, OFTEN TIMES, COMMUNITY -- FOLKS FROM
COMMUNITY OF COLOR, YOUNG START-UPS, PEOPLE WITH REALLY INTERESTING STORIES THAT FEED INTO THEIR ART OR FASHION.
HOW DO YOU FIND THIS PEOPLE? I THINK THAT I AM LUCKY TO WORK WITH A TEAM THAT IS DEEPLY CURIOUS AND JUST KIND OF VERY
OMNIVOROUS. THAT IS HOW I FEEL TOO. I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE DIVISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN OUR
CULTURE OR A LITTLE ARTIFICIAL. I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT OF A GUILTY PLEASURE. IT IS JUST A PLEASURE.
[LAUGHTER] SO I TRY TO APPLY THAT TO THE KEY RATION OF THE MAGAZINE. AND WHAT WE DO IS REALLY SERIOUS
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM BOAT WE ARE ALSO HERE TO HAVE FUN AND WE WANT OUR READERS TO HAVE FUN AND THAT IS COMING BACK TO THE OSCAR
PARTY, THAT IS KIND OF WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. Kal: THIS IS A VERY FUN ISSUE.
IT IS THE 29TH ANNUAL HOLLYWOOD ISSUE ON "VANITY FAIR." PLEASE, THANKS SO MUCH TO MY GUESTS, RADHIKA JONES!
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK BUT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
♪ ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] Kal: THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR TONIGHT!
WERE BEFORE WE GO, PLEASE CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE SUNRISE MOVEMENT EDUCATION FUND. THEIR YOUTH LED MOVEMENT CREATES
POLITICAL ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE ACROSS AMERICA. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE DONATE AT THE LINK BELOW.
NOW HERE IT IS, YOUR "MOMENT OF ZEN." PEOPLE CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE WOKE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? WOULD YOU MIND DEFINING WOKE? IT IS, BY A COUPLE TIMES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE
SAME PAGE. SO, I MEAN, WOKE IS SORT OF THE IDEA THAT -- SO IT -- I --