1 00:00:01,435 --> 00:00:04,872 ANNOUNCER: From New York City, the only city in America, 2 00:00:04,972 --> 00:00:07,508 it's the show that invented news. 3 00:00:07,608 --> 00:00:12,045 This is The Daily Show with your host, Al Franken. 4 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:19,152 [music playing] 5 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:28,095 [cheers and applause] 6 00:00:28,195 --> 00:00:30,531 Welcome. 7 00:00:30,631 --> 00:00:31,532 Welcome. 8 00:00:31,632 --> 00:00:32,533 Thank you. 9 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:34,001 Welcome. 10 00:00:34,101 --> 00:00:36,436 No, no, no. 11 00:00:36,537 --> 00:00:40,507 Welcome to the-- welcome to The Daily Show. 12 00:00:40,607 --> 00:00:42,442 I'm your host for the week, Al Franken. 13 00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:49,349 I'm the-- I'm the ninth guest host so far 14 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:53,287 and the first white male guest host. 15 00:00:53,387 --> 00:00:54,855 Feel free to applaud. 16 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:58,759 [applause] 17 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:01,461 We got a great show for you tonight. 18 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:08,502 My friend, Senator Lindsey Graham, is joining me. 19 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:11,905 Yeah. 20 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:13,807 So let's get into the headlines. 21 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:19,980 [music playing] 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,316 You know, last week, I was thinking, 23 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:26,687 there's not going to be much news when I host. 24 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:31,325 But oh, boy, it's going to be an exciting week. 25 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:33,627 If former President Trump is correct, 26 00:01:33,727 --> 00:01:35,128 we are on the verge of something 27 00:01:35,229 --> 00:01:37,598 unprecedented in American history, 28 00:01:37,698 --> 00:01:41,435 a former US President arraigned before a judge 29 00:01:41,535 --> 00:01:43,103 facing criminal charges. 30 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:44,238 REPORTER: Over the weekend, Trump 31 00:01:44,338 --> 00:01:46,807 claimed he will be arrested tomorrow, indicted 32 00:01:46,907 --> 00:01:50,511 by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg for charges 33 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:52,679 related to hush money payments he made 34 00:01:52,779 --> 00:01:54,548 to porn star Stormy Daniels. 35 00:01:54,648 --> 00:01:57,851 The only person saying that Donald Trump will be arrested 36 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,920 tomorrow is Donald Trump. 37 00:02:00,053 --> 00:02:02,055 And Trump's own spokesperson says 38 00:02:02,122 --> 00:02:03,624 that they have not been notified 39 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:05,092 of any pending arrests. 40 00:02:05,192 --> 00:02:07,561 REPORTER: Over the weekend, the former president spent 41 00:02:07,661 --> 00:02:09,530 his time on his social media platform, 42 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:11,932 Truth Social, urging his supporters 43 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:15,736 to protest and, quote, "take our nation back." 44 00:02:15,836 --> 00:02:16,737 That's right. 45 00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:19,239 According to Donald Trump himself, 46 00:02:19,339 --> 00:02:24,077 Donald Trump may actually be indicted this week! 47 00:02:24,111 --> 00:02:31,118 [cheers] 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,325 And-- and I've got just one thing to say about that-- 49 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:44,865 finally! 50 00:02:44,965 --> 00:02:47,935 And you know what the best thing about it is? 51 00:02:48,101 --> 00:02:51,238 It's happening right here in the greatest city 52 00:02:51,338 --> 00:02:52,973 on the planet, New York City! 53 00:02:53,106 --> 00:02:59,446 [cheers and applause] 54 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:01,348 Wow. 55 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:06,820 Wow. 56 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:08,956 This is easy. 57 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:10,057 You guys are great. 58 00:03:10,123 --> 00:03:11,058 Aren't you great? 59 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:12,459 Aren't you a great audience? 60 00:03:12,559 --> 00:03:13,460 Aren't you the best? 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,461 [cheers and applause] 62 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:16,964 Oh, god. 63 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:19,600 God, they love me. 64 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:22,703 And I got to say, who would have 65 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:25,806 ever thought that Donald Trump would be 66 00:03:25,906 --> 00:03:31,144 brought down by a porn star? 67 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:32,446 All of us, right? 68 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:35,148 It was pretty-- pretty predictable. 69 00:03:35,249 --> 00:03:39,086 But yeah, Donald Trump paid Stormy Daniels 70 00:03:39,152 --> 00:03:40,821 to keep this story quiet. 71 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:44,391 And here we are, still talking about it seven years later. 72 00:03:44,491 --> 00:03:51,465 So that would be another failed Trump business venture. 73 00:03:54,434 --> 00:03:57,671 Now, if Donald Trump does get arrested, 74 00:03:57,771 --> 00:04:00,340 he'll have to go through the normal procedure, 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,677 the perp walk, the fingerprinting, and of course, 76 00:04:03,777 --> 00:04:05,345 "the mug shot." 77 00:04:05,445 --> 00:04:10,184 I certainly hope that the booking officer is respectful 78 00:04:10,284 --> 00:04:13,420 and doesn't take advantage of the opportunity to play 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:20,327 some, you know, stupid joke. 80 00:04:21,528 --> 00:04:24,498 Mr. President, does-- this will be your mug shot. 81 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:28,435 So I'm going to snap the photo on the count of three, 82 00:04:28,535 --> 00:04:31,205 OK, Mr. President? 83 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:33,974 One, here we go. 84 00:04:34,074 --> 00:04:39,446 One, two, hit the wind machine! 85 00:04:39,546 --> 00:04:46,520 Three! 86 00:04:51,525 --> 00:04:54,695 Now, as you saw, Trump asked his supporters 87 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:57,197 to come out and protest. 88 00:04:57,297 --> 00:05:00,534 And they're already coming up with some fun ideas. 89 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:04,571 Apparently, some Trump fans are talking about preventing 90 00:05:04,671 --> 00:05:10,811 Trump's arrest by forming a so-called "Patriot moat" 91 00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:12,279 around Mar-a-Lago. 92 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:17,684 And I have to ask, who are these people who can just 93 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:20,787 leave whatever they're doing to go physically 94 00:05:20,888 --> 00:05:24,658 protect Donald Trump? 95 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:27,427 Nurse, you have to find someone else 96 00:05:27,528 --> 00:05:30,364 to finish the brain surgery. 97 00:05:30,464 --> 00:05:32,499 The president has summoned me to Mar-a-Lago 98 00:05:32,599 --> 00:05:36,904 to be a human moat for him. 99 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:40,340 Of course, many Republican officials are also 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,075 coming to Trump's defense. 101 00:05:42,176 --> 00:05:45,913 House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, 102 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:49,116 who will be on the show in a little while, 103 00:05:49,216 --> 00:05:53,787 and even Mike Pence appeared on the noose-- 104 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:56,757 sorry, sorry, the news. 105 00:05:56,857 --> 00:06:03,697 [applause] 106 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:06,900 They appeared on the news to speak up for Trump. 107 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:10,103 But one person who was conspicuously quiet 108 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:15,042 all weekend is Trump's chief rival for the 2024 election, 109 00:06:15,142 --> 00:06:17,044 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. 110 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:19,780 And Trump will put a lot of pressure 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,816 on him to rally to Trump's defense. 112 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:26,053 So today, he finally did in just 113 00:06:26,153 --> 00:06:28,589 a bit of a backhanded way. 114 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:31,458 I don't know what goes into paying hush money 115 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:35,062 to a porn star to secure silence over some type 116 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:36,063 of alleged affair. 117 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:38,899 I just-- I can't speak to that. 118 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:44,805 But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who 119 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:48,675 is ignoring crimes happening every single day 120 00:06:48,775 --> 00:06:51,645 in his jurisdiction and he chooses to go back 121 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:57,684 many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star 122 00:06:57,784 --> 00:06:59,553 hush money payments, you know, that's 123 00:06:59,653 --> 00:07:04,925 an example of pursuing a political agenda. 124 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,828 Did I mentioned that this whole thing was 125 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:11,164 about porn star hush money? 126 00:07:11,265 --> 00:07:16,370 Because it's about porn star hush money, just to be clear-- 127 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:19,540 porn star hush money. 128 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:26,647 [applause] 129 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,551 DeSantis has it all. 130 00:07:30,651 --> 00:07:32,719 Let's move on to some international news 131 00:07:32,819 --> 00:07:35,355 because Donald Trump isn't the only leader 132 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:37,057 facing indictment this week. 133 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:40,360 His best friend was also indicted. 134 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:41,962 The extraordinary announcement 135 00:07:42,062 --> 00:07:44,698 today about Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin. 136 00:07:44,798 --> 00:07:47,134 The International Criminal Court at The Hague 137 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:50,137 issued an arrest warrant for the Russian president for war 138 00:07:50,237 --> 00:07:53,106 crimes, implicating him in the abduction 139 00:07:53,207 --> 00:07:56,710 of thousands of Ukrainian children during the war. 140 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,013 Ukraine's president hailed the move as a historic decision. 141 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,748 But the charges are largely symbolic. 142 00:08:01,849 --> 00:08:03,016 VLADIMIR DUTHIERS: Over the weekend, 143 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:04,785 Putin made an unannounced visit to a city 144 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:06,920 that Russia seized from Ukraine last year 145 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:08,322 after a brutal battle. 146 00:08:08,422 --> 00:08:11,058 REPORTER: In a surprise visit, President Putin drove himself 147 00:08:11,158 --> 00:08:13,827 through Russian-occupied Mariupol Saturday, 148 00:08:13,927 --> 00:08:16,396 inspecting newly built facilities in what's believed 149 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,532 to be his closest tour to the front lines 150 00:08:18,632 --> 00:08:21,235 of this war he started. 151 00:08:21,335 --> 00:08:22,236 That's right. 152 00:08:22,336 --> 00:08:24,505 Charged with war crimes, Putin thought 153 00:08:24,605 --> 00:08:27,774 it best to get out of town until things cooled down. 154 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:31,912 So he packed the bag and took off to Mariupol, 155 00:08:32,045 --> 00:08:35,249 one of the cities in Ukraine that his army destroyed. 156 00:08:35,349 --> 00:08:37,584 He walked around, saw the sights, 157 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:38,886 and shook a lot of hands. 158 00:08:39,052 --> 00:08:43,857 The hands were in a big pile on the edge of town. 159 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:47,661 Putin then laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown 160 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:54,401 Russian Soldier Who Had No Idea Why the [bleep] He Was There. 161 00:08:55,502 --> 00:08:58,772 For more on the war, let's go live to Ukraine 162 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:02,809 with Roy Wood, Jr., everybody. 163 00:09:02,910 --> 00:09:08,148 Yeah, what's going on? 164 00:09:08,248 --> 00:09:10,684 Roy-- Roy, where are you at this moment? 165 00:09:10,784 --> 00:09:12,786 Al, I'm near the front lines, and it 166 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:14,588 has been nonstop shelling. 167 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:15,856 The conditions are brutal. 168 00:09:16,023 --> 00:09:17,858 Last week, the Russians destroyed 169 00:09:18,025 --> 00:09:18,926 the water treatment plant. 170 00:09:19,026 --> 00:09:20,694 So I had to shit in my helmet. 171 00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:22,829 And I still had to wear it the next day. 172 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:25,499 They only give you one helmet. 173 00:09:25,599 --> 00:09:26,500 Uh-huh. 174 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,036 You know, I've been thinking a lot-- 175 00:09:29,136 --> 00:09:30,204 I've been thinking a lot about this. 176 00:09:30,304 --> 00:09:33,106 I'm actually thinking of coming over. 177 00:09:33,207 --> 00:09:34,641 Coming over where? 178 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:36,043 Coming over here? 179 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:39,313 Al, with all due respect, brother, battlefield reporting 180 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:42,316 is not for 71-year-old comedians. 181 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:44,184 Leave that to me and Richard Engel 182 00:09:44,284 --> 00:09:46,687 from NBC, who, by the way, was the one who 183 00:09:46,787 --> 00:09:48,055 told me to poop in my helmet. 184 00:09:48,121 --> 00:09:50,424 I found out later I could have just shit on the ground. 185 00:09:50,524 --> 00:09:53,060 Engel's a liar. 186 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:54,061 You just shit on the ground. It's war. 187 00:09:54,094 --> 00:09:55,062 You can shit where you want. 188 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:56,063 That's well known about Engle. 189 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:58,498 Roy, maybe I'm not being clear. 190 00:09:58,599 --> 00:10:01,969 I don't want to report on the war. 191 00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:04,171 I want to fight. 192 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:05,405 What? 193 00:10:05,506 --> 00:10:08,575 The fighting is the worst part of war. 194 00:10:08,675 --> 00:10:11,612 It goes fighting then small talk with Sean Penn. 195 00:10:11,712 --> 00:10:15,315 Why do you want to fight? 196 00:10:15,415 --> 00:10:19,186 Roy, I was born too late to fight in World War II. 197 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:22,856 And there was no way I was going to go to Vietnam, 198 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:25,592 and Iraq, and Afghanistan. 199 00:10:25,692 --> 00:10:27,895 No, thank you. 200 00:10:27,995 --> 00:10:30,397 I've been looking for a good war my whole life. 201 00:10:30,497 --> 00:10:33,734 So Ukraine may just be the cause 202 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:36,270 that I'm willing to risk it all for, 203 00:10:36,370 --> 00:10:40,774 even if it means a hero's death. 204 00:10:40,874 --> 00:10:42,676 [claps] 205 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:47,414 [applause] 206 00:10:47,514 --> 00:10:50,083 Why they clapping for you in the studio, man? 207 00:10:50,184 --> 00:10:51,318 Them people trying to get you killed. 208 00:10:51,418 --> 00:10:53,053 Look, let me give it to you straight, Al. 209 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:54,888 You need it straight. 210 00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:57,324 I know what you're going to say. 211 00:10:57,424 --> 00:11:00,060 You're proud of me. 212 00:11:00,127 --> 00:11:04,264 But I should first make out a will. 213 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:07,234 You don't already have a will? 214 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:08,368 You 71. 215 00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:09,870 Jesus. 216 00:11:09,970 --> 00:11:11,605 What I was going to say is that we don't 217 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:13,707 need thrill-seekers over here. 218 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:14,708 Oh, you know what? 219 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:16,376 I take offense with that. 220 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:20,981 I'm not a thrill-seeking-- 221 00:11:21,081 --> 00:11:26,420 I merely want the thrill of standing shoulder-to-shoulder 222 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,357 with the brave fighting men and women of the Ukraine 223 00:11:30,457 --> 00:11:32,526 to repel the invaders. 224 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:38,165 God, that would be thrilling. 225 00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:39,166 You? 226 00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:40,534 You gonna stand shoulder-to-shoulder 227 00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:41,535 to the men and women-- 228 00:11:41,635 --> 00:11:42,803 Al, don't take this the wrong way, 229 00:11:42,903 --> 00:11:44,905 but-- but physically, you look like the kind of dude 230 00:11:45,005 --> 00:11:46,740 that if you was on the subway, a pregnant woman 231 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,111 would give you her seat. 232 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,614 Respectfully. 233 00:11:53,714 --> 00:11:54,915 Respectfully. 234 00:11:55,015 --> 00:11:58,986 What's-- what's the right way to take that? 235 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:02,789 Roy, you don't know anything about me. 236 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:04,057 I could withstand any-- 237 00:12:04,091 --> 00:12:05,058 [explosion] 238 00:12:05,092 --> 00:12:06,059 Jesus! 239 00:12:06,093 --> 00:12:07,728 Whoa! 240 00:12:07,828 --> 00:12:10,731 That-- that was close. 241 00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:13,433 Yeah, close to me. 242 00:12:13,534 --> 00:12:14,902 Al, this is a regular occurrence over here. 243 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:16,236 This is war. - OK. 244 00:12:16,336 --> 00:12:17,337 OK. 245 00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:19,206 Maybe I could just do something like help 246 00:12:19,306 --> 00:12:21,542 evacuate the wounded. 247 00:12:21,642 --> 00:12:24,845 Oh, yeah, well, do you have any medical training? 248 00:12:24,945 --> 00:12:26,580 Well, I just had my fourth colonoscopy. 249 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:30,784 You know, it's-- it's important to do that regularly. 250 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:31,818 [explosion] 251 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:36,523 Jesus! 252 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:37,958 Same old thing. 253 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,092 We good. 254 00:12:39,126 --> 00:12:40,093 Everybody good? 255 00:12:40,194 --> 00:12:44,665 OK, maybe-- maybe you have a point, Roy. 256 00:12:44,765 --> 00:12:49,837 Perhaps I can help Ukraine by, you know, I don't know, 257 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:55,809 doing a hard-hitting episode about the war on my podcast? 258 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:56,810 You-- 259 00:12:56,910 --> 00:13:00,180 [applause] 260 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,748 What's wrong with them people in the studio? 261 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:03,917 Why are they clapping all the time for you, Al? 262 00:13:04,051 --> 00:13:06,453 You think you can help the war effort by talking about it 263 00:13:06,553 --> 00:13:07,821 for two hours on a podcast? 264 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:09,456 Two hours? 265 00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:10,824 Well, not two hours straight. 266 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:15,696 You have to do a lot of ads to monetize a popular podcast 267 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:16,830 like The Al Franken Podcast. 268 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:18,332 You know what? You know what? 269 00:13:18,432 --> 00:13:19,333 I changed my mind. 270 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:20,434 Come on over here. 271 00:13:20,534 --> 00:13:21,535 Bring your ass on over here. 272 00:13:21,635 --> 00:13:23,904 I can get you on the front lines tomorrow. 273 00:13:24,071 --> 00:13:24,905 I got to run. 274 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:27,074 I got to go do something. 275 00:13:27,107 --> 00:13:28,075 Fantastic. 276 00:13:28,108 --> 00:13:30,210 Roy Wood, Jr., everyone. 277 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:31,945 I'm on my way. 278 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:34,414 We'll be right back with South Carolina 279 00:13:34,515 --> 00:13:37,184 Senator Lindsey Graham. 280 00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:39,720 [explosion] 281 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:58,639 [music playing] 282 00:13:58,739 --> 00:14:00,808 Welcome back. 283 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,410 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 284 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,879 My guest tonight is the senior senator 285 00:14:05,979 --> 00:14:08,182 from South Carolina, with whom I served 286 00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:10,050 in the United States Senate. 287 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:12,753 Please welcome Senator Lindsey Graham. 288 00:14:12,853 --> 00:14:17,324 [music playing] 289 00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:19,426 That was fun. 290 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:20,894 Good to see you. 291 00:14:20,994 --> 00:14:27,367 Thanks, man. 292 00:14:27,468 --> 00:14:28,368 Well. 293 00:14:28,469 --> 00:14:29,336 Well? 294 00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:30,504 Thanks for coming, man. 295 00:14:30,604 --> 00:14:32,072 So this is what happens, right? 296 00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:34,975 AL: I'm hopeful we'll find some common ground. 297 00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:35,976 There's always hope. 298 00:14:36,076 --> 00:14:36,977 And-- 299 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:38,479 [laughs] 300 00:14:38,579 --> 00:14:41,915 You know, I think that-- 301 00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:44,251 We've got a joke planned, which I think is terrible. 302 00:14:44,351 --> 00:14:46,220 But go ahead. 303 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,554 OK, my joke was-- 304 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:50,090 [laughs] He's proving my point. 305 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:53,260 --that I'm thinking that-- 306 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,162 what everyone else is thinking, which is, 307 00:14:55,262 --> 00:14:57,531 how could the two of us possibly 308 00:14:57,631 --> 00:14:59,233 come off good after this? 309 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:00,300 Or either of us? 310 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,301 Or either of us. 311 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:02,736 Now, is that funny? No. 312 00:15:02,836 --> 00:15:04,171 No. Well, thanks for-- 313 00:15:04,271 --> 00:15:05,773 Well, anyway, I'm glad to be here. 314 00:15:05,873 --> 00:15:07,141 That's how you kill a joke. 315 00:15:07,241 --> 00:15:09,276 Well-- [laughs] 316 00:15:09,376 --> 00:15:11,779 By saying we have a joke that I don't think is funny, 317 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:12,780 but let's try. 318 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,281 But, you know-- anyway, whatever. 319 00:15:14,381 --> 00:15:15,582 Good to see you. 320 00:15:15,682 --> 00:15:16,416 OK, I'm going to go on the Senate floor, and I'm going 321 00:15:16,517 --> 00:15:17,518 to [bleep] you up. 322 00:15:17,618 --> 00:15:18,652 I don't want to ruin his life. 323 00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:19,753 I thought he was a good senator, 324 00:15:19,853 --> 00:15:20,854 and that's why I'm here. 325 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:22,022 You thought I covered up. 326 00:15:22,089 --> 00:15:23,090 What'd you just say? 327 00:15:23,190 --> 00:15:24,224 I thought you were. 328 00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:25,325 Well, we were friends. 329 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,494 Yes, were. 330 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:29,062 Well, there's been a strain on it. 331 00:15:29,163 --> 00:15:30,164 SENATOR GRAHAM: We are. 332 00:15:30,264 --> 00:15:32,199 We are friends, but there's been some strain 333 00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:33,700 in terms of your politics. 334 00:15:33,801 --> 00:15:34,701 Only on your part, not mine. 335 00:15:34,802 --> 00:15:35,869 Yeah. 336 00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:38,772 Well, you know. 337 00:15:38,872 --> 00:15:42,743 But let's find some common ground. 338 00:15:42,843 --> 00:15:45,779 For example, Ukraine-- we both believe 339 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:48,715 that this is in the vital interest of the United States. 340 00:15:48,816 --> 00:15:49,716 Yeah, Putin sucks. 341 00:15:49,817 --> 00:15:50,918 That's common ground, right? 342 00:15:51,051 --> 00:15:54,755 [cheers and applause] 343 00:15:54,855 --> 00:15:56,056 And he should be in jail. 344 00:15:56,156 --> 00:15:57,324 How about that? 345 00:15:57,424 --> 00:15:58,525 Yeah. 346 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:00,093 Maybe not so much on Trump but definitely on Putin. 347 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:01,094 Yeah. 348 00:16:01,195 --> 00:16:02,129 Yeah. 349 00:16:02,229 --> 00:16:04,198 Well, Putin's slightly more serious, 350 00:16:04,298 --> 00:16:06,700 but there are some serious charges against Trump. 351 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,004 But nevertheless, there are some Republicans, 352 00:16:11,105 --> 00:16:15,209 and we mentioned Ron DeSantis, the governor who 353 00:16:15,309 --> 00:16:17,478 doesn't agree with you and me. 354 00:16:17,578 --> 00:16:19,413 Well, you know, it's a free country. 355 00:16:19,513 --> 00:16:21,915 But let me just say this, if this 356 00:16:22,015 --> 00:16:25,018 is not in our vital interest, what would be? 357 00:16:25,052 --> 00:16:28,088 To have a guy invade another country, 358 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:30,357 rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms-- 359 00:16:30,457 --> 00:16:33,026 does this bring back any memories? 360 00:16:33,127 --> 00:16:35,262 Signs an agreement, tears it up. 361 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:38,499 And he's gotten an arrest warrant from the ICC, 362 00:16:38,599 --> 00:16:40,134 which has done a great job. 363 00:16:40,234 --> 00:16:41,835 And they want to arrest him because he's 364 00:16:41,935 --> 00:16:44,938 taken Ukrainian children, kidnapped them 365 00:16:45,038 --> 00:16:47,908 from their families, and sent them to Russia. 366 00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:50,844 Other than that, this doesn't matter to us. 367 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:52,679 I don't want to live in a world where that crap 368 00:16:52,780 --> 00:16:54,681 goes on without punishment. 369 00:16:54,782 --> 00:16:56,383 I want him to be punished. 370 00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:57,785 I want him to be defeated. 371 00:16:57,885 --> 00:16:59,686 I want the Ukrainians to kick his ass. 372 00:16:59,787 --> 00:17:02,422 And I want China to look and see what's coming their way 373 00:17:02,523 --> 00:17:04,224 if they're going to Taiwan. 374 00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:06,226 I absolutely agree, and I-- 375 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:10,030 [applause] 376 00:17:10,130 --> 00:17:14,134 And I think President Biden has done an excellent job leading 377 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:18,906 this coalition, and by sharing our intelligence with them 378 00:17:19,006 --> 00:17:21,608 at the beginning, getting the coalition together 379 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,410 before the war even started. 380 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,546 I think you would admit that was a great accomplishment. 381 00:17:25,646 --> 00:17:26,647 Yeah, I'm trying to be-- 382 00:17:26,747 --> 00:17:28,015 Yeah, I'm trying to be helpful. 383 00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:31,018 I think the Ukrainians needed F-16s yesterday. 384 00:17:31,118 --> 00:17:33,287 I think I would do more on the military front. 385 00:17:33,387 --> 00:17:34,588 But we're in it together, right? 386 00:17:34,688 --> 00:17:36,123 I want to help the administration where I can. 387 00:17:36,223 --> 00:17:39,793 You know, you've got Xi and Putin meeting in Moscow. 388 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:42,129 AL: And that's scary because we don't want them-- 389 00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:45,165 Well, you don't want them aligning together. 390 00:17:45,265 --> 00:17:48,035 So I'd like to see Russia become a state sponsor 391 00:17:48,068 --> 00:17:51,538 of terrorism under US law because anybody that provides 392 00:17:51,638 --> 00:17:54,975 material aid to state sponsor of terrorism, any nation 393 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,243 runs into sanctions. 394 00:17:56,343 --> 00:17:57,778 AL: And that would make it harder for China to ship-- 395 00:17:57,878 --> 00:17:58,979 It would make it a lot harder. 396 00:17:59,046 --> 00:18:00,647 --to ship arms to them. 397 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:02,282 So let's make it harder for China 398 00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:05,819 to help Russia in a cruel, barbaric endeavor 399 00:18:05,986 --> 00:18:07,588 to change the world for the worst. 400 00:18:07,688 --> 00:18:08,589 OK. 401 00:18:08,689 --> 00:18:09,590 Now-- 402 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:13,894 [applause] 403 00:18:13,994 --> 00:18:17,197 You seem a little critical of Biden for the planes 404 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:18,499 not being there yet-- 405 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:19,500 SENATOR GRAHAM: Yeah-- 406 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,834 --and the tanks getting there earlier, 407 00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:22,569 or our tanks not there. 408 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,538 The German tanks are getting there. 409 00:18:24,638 --> 00:18:25,539 Anybody's tank. 410 00:18:25,639 --> 00:18:27,007 Just send a tank. 411 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,244 But, you know, I want to quote 412 00:18:30,344 --> 00:18:32,679 some stuff that Trump said. 413 00:18:32,780 --> 00:18:38,318 This is what he told a guy named Sean "Han-NIT-y"-- 414 00:18:38,418 --> 00:18:39,319 "Han-NIT-y." 415 00:18:39,419 --> 00:18:46,026 [laughter] 416 00:18:47,027 --> 00:18:49,029 I have no idea who he is. 417 00:18:49,096 --> 00:18:50,597 This is what Donald Trump said. 418 00:18:50,697 --> 00:18:52,466 This is two weeks after the war started. 419 00:18:52,566 --> 00:18:54,368 "I could have negotiated. 420 00:18:54,468 --> 00:18:57,304 At worst, I could have made a deal to take over something. 421 00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:59,873 You know, there are certain areas 422 00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:02,276 that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly. 423 00:19:02,376 --> 00:19:04,511 But you could have worked a deal." 424 00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:07,781 So in other words, Trump, at the beginning of the war, 425 00:19:07,881 --> 00:19:09,049 was saying, like, hey, I could have-- 426 00:19:09,149 --> 00:19:10,350 I could have stopped this thing. 427 00:19:10,451 --> 00:19:11,351 I could have just given them-- 428 00:19:11,452 --> 00:19:12,486 SENATOR GRAHAM: Anybody who speaks 429 00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:13,987 Russian, stand up, right? - Yeah. 430 00:19:14,021 --> 00:19:14,988 Yeah. 431 00:19:15,088 --> 00:19:17,257 And that reminds me of the Sudetenland. 432 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:19,526 Yeah, that reminds me of a lot of things 433 00:19:19,626 --> 00:19:20,894 that didn't turn out well. 434 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:23,030 So how about this idea? 435 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:27,034 In 1994, when we were much younger, 436 00:19:27,134 --> 00:19:29,837 the Ukrainians had 1,700 nuclear weapons 437 00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:32,639 left over from the Soviet era. 438 00:19:32,739 --> 00:19:37,010 Soviet Union collapses, they give back the nukes to Russia 439 00:19:37,077 --> 00:19:40,013 with the understanding that their territorial sovereignty 440 00:19:40,047 --> 00:19:41,882 will be respected. 441 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:44,284 And it included Crimea on the '94 map. 442 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:45,285 AL: OK. 443 00:19:45,385 --> 00:19:47,121 So now here's Putin years later, 444 00:19:47,221 --> 00:19:50,524 tearing that up, claiming things not his, 445 00:19:50,624 --> 00:19:53,827 warning things because people speak some of the language-- 446 00:19:53,961 --> 00:19:57,598 So why did Trump say such a stupid thing? 447 00:19:57,698 --> 00:20:01,869 Well, I'm not here to say I agree with that. 448 00:20:01,969 --> 00:20:03,637 But when he was president, I thought 449 00:20:03,737 --> 00:20:05,672 he did a pretty good job at taking 450 00:20:05,773 --> 00:20:06,673 the fight to the terrorists. 451 00:20:06,774 --> 00:20:07,674 I really do. 452 00:20:07,775 --> 00:20:08,842 He kill-- killed Soleimani. 453 00:20:08,976 --> 00:20:10,878 He killed Baghdadi. 454 00:20:10,978 --> 00:20:13,046 The Abraham Accords was a big deal. 455 00:20:13,147 --> 00:20:14,882 And there you go. 456 00:20:14,982 --> 00:20:18,886 He also kind of was impeached for shaking down Zelenskyy. 457 00:20:18,986 --> 00:20:19,987 Yeah, but-- 458 00:20:20,087 --> 00:20:21,622 I know on that one, you didn't vote guilty. 459 00:20:21,722 --> 00:20:23,056 No, I didn't vote for either one of them. 460 00:20:23,157 --> 00:20:24,892 But I'm sure there would be another one coming. 461 00:20:24,992 --> 00:20:25,893 Yeah. 462 00:20:25,993 --> 00:20:27,728 AL: I think if-- 463 00:20:27,828 --> 00:20:28,762 he's not-- 464 00:20:28,862 --> 00:20:30,063 Y'all can boo me if you want. 465 00:20:30,164 --> 00:20:33,300 This will actually help at home. 466 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,537 I went to New York and nobody liked me is actually the-- 467 00:20:36,637 --> 00:20:37,538 I can withstand that. 468 00:20:37,638 --> 00:20:38,505 Don't you like him? 469 00:20:38,605 --> 00:20:39,640 Don't you like him? 470 00:20:39,740 --> 00:20:44,378 You're killing me. 471 00:20:44,478 --> 00:20:45,345 Yeah, I mean-- 472 00:20:45,446 --> 00:20:46,880 I've survived a lot. 473 00:20:47,014 --> 00:20:49,316 My point is, this is what he's saying. 474 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:52,719 This is what your guy, that you want to be president, 475 00:20:52,820 --> 00:20:55,022 said after the war has started. 476 00:20:55,122 --> 00:20:56,590 SENATOR GRAHAM: Yeah, I think that's a mistake. 477 00:20:56,690 --> 00:21:00,661 Where my guy, who I want to get reelected, 478 00:21:00,761 --> 00:21:05,432 had organized the coalition, and started, and had stood up, 479 00:21:05,532 --> 00:21:08,602 and said, no, we're not going to allow this to happen. 480 00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:10,571 So I think-- yeah, you know. 481 00:21:10,671 --> 00:21:12,673 We've got '24 election is coming. 482 00:21:12,773 --> 00:21:15,075 But I think we've got a chance here in the near-term, 483 00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:18,879 really, with the proper military support, continued 484 00:21:18,979 --> 00:21:21,548 economic assistance to the Ukraine for the Ukrainians 485 00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:24,284 to decimate the Russian army in Ukraine. 486 00:21:24,384 --> 00:21:25,786 They just need the weapons to do it. 487 00:21:25,886 --> 00:21:30,491 And wouldn't that be a great outcome to a very tragic 488 00:21:30,591 --> 00:21:31,525 event, to have Putin lose? 489 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,460 SENATOR GRAHAM: It would be. 490 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,864 And you talk to some of your other Republican friends 491 00:21:36,997 --> 00:21:38,065 on the other side-- 492 00:21:38,165 --> 00:21:40,067 Marjorie Taylor Greene, I know, you're very close. 493 00:21:40,167 --> 00:21:41,401 Yeah, we spend tons of time. 494 00:21:41,502 --> 00:21:42,402 Yeah. 495 00:21:42,503 --> 00:21:45,472 [laughs] But there is a kind of a-- 496 00:21:45,572 --> 00:21:47,474 I'm trying to get the space later-- laser taken down, 497 00:21:47,574 --> 00:21:51,111 but we'll see how that works. 498 00:21:51,211 --> 00:21:53,280 Yeah, that was a Jewish space laser. 499 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,348 But she said it was-- 500 00:21:54,448 --> 00:21:55,482 I always thought it'd have been 501 00:21:55,582 --> 00:21:57,017 funny to have a laser with a yarmulke on it, 502 00:21:57,117 --> 00:21:58,085 just flying around. 503 00:21:58,185 --> 00:21:59,086 AL: [laughs] 504 00:21:59,186 --> 00:22:01,688 Apparently nobody else did, so-- 505 00:22:01,789 --> 00:22:03,056 - She has seen it. - Yeah. 506 00:22:03,157 --> 00:22:04,057 [laughs] 507 00:22:04,158 --> 00:22:05,259 Well, you know what? 508 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,595 I think what we should do is take a quick break. 509 00:22:08,695 --> 00:22:09,863 OK, and pay the bills. 510 00:22:09,963 --> 00:22:13,734 And we'll be right back with Senator Lindsey Graham 511 00:22:13,834 --> 00:22:18,138 right after an important message from MyPillow guy. 512 00:22:18,238 --> 00:22:20,674 [laughs] 513 00:22:30,018 --> 00:22:36,258 [cheers and applause] 514 00:22:40,128 --> 00:22:41,029 Welcome. 515 00:22:41,129 --> 00:22:42,764 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 516 00:22:42,865 --> 00:22:44,833 We're here with Senator Lindsey Graham. 517 00:22:44,933 --> 00:22:46,501 You know, Lindsey, you asked me during the break 518 00:22:46,602 --> 00:22:47,569 what I'm doing. 519 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:48,837 And part of what I've been doing 520 00:22:48,937 --> 00:22:53,442 is the "only former US Senator currently on tour" tour. 521 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:56,411 And when the audiences ask me, they 522 00:22:56,511 --> 00:23:00,048 say, who is the funniest US Senator while you were there? 523 00:23:00,148 --> 00:23:01,817 And I always say Lindsey Graham. 524 00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:04,786 And they always hate it because they're my crowd. 525 00:23:04,887 --> 00:23:06,555 And then I tell them this-- 526 00:23:06,655 --> 00:23:09,424 when you were running for president in '16-- 527 00:23:09,525 --> 00:23:10,459 Y'all remember that? 528 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:11,627 Yeah, remember? 529 00:23:11,727 --> 00:23:12,828 You're the only ones. 530 00:23:12,928 --> 00:23:14,496 You were like 2% at one point. 531 00:23:14,596 --> 00:23:15,497 Yeah, that was-- 532 00:23:15,597 --> 00:23:16,565 I peaked. 533 00:23:16,665 --> 00:23:19,868 [laughs] So one day I go-- 534 00:23:19,968 --> 00:23:22,304 I go in the Senate bathroom, and I turn to you. 535 00:23:22,404 --> 00:23:27,309 And I say, Lindsey, if I were a Republican, 536 00:23:27,409 --> 00:23:28,911 I'd vote for you for president. 537 00:23:29,011 --> 00:23:29,912 And you said-- 538 00:23:30,012 --> 00:23:31,179 That's my problem. 539 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:37,152 [laughter] 540 00:23:37,252 --> 00:23:38,420 That's the third story. 541 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,423 So when you get our age, you have a lot of time 542 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:42,925 to talk to people in the bathroom. 543 00:23:43,025 --> 00:23:48,030 So and yeah, that was my problem in a nutshell. 544 00:23:48,130 --> 00:23:50,032 The Al Franken wing of the Republican Party 545 00:23:50,132 --> 00:23:52,801 is not as big as you think it would be. 546 00:23:52,901 --> 00:23:54,036 AL: Yeah. Yeah. 547 00:23:54,136 --> 00:23:55,304 Well, let's-- 548 00:23:55,437 --> 00:23:57,206 I hope you make it the rest of the week, by the way. 549 00:23:57,306 --> 00:23:58,574 Don't you think he'd be a good host? 550 00:23:58,674 --> 00:24:00,275 [cheers] 551 00:24:00,442 --> 00:24:04,580 Well, thank you. 552 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,014 Maybe if you have a recess week, 553 00:24:06,114 --> 00:24:08,584 and you're not going overseas, you could do it for a week. 554 00:24:08,684 --> 00:24:10,118 Well, maybe not. AL: Maybe not. 555 00:24:10,219 --> 00:24:11,119 Maybe not. 556 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:14,189 OK, let's talk about-- 557 00:24:14,289 --> 00:24:17,926 yo said this week that these charges 558 00:24:18,026 --> 00:24:21,263 or this charges in New York might actually help Trump. 559 00:24:21,363 --> 00:24:22,264 What did you mean by that? 560 00:24:22,364 --> 00:24:23,799 I think-- well, the Republicans will 561 00:24:23,899 --> 00:24:26,969 help Trump because the Cyrus Vance 562 00:24:27,069 --> 00:24:28,904 was the previous prosecutor. 563 00:24:29,004 --> 00:24:30,939 He looked at this and said, no, thank you. 564 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:33,442 And the US attorney looked at it and said, no, thank you. 565 00:24:33,542 --> 00:24:35,611 And this guy comes along, Alvin Bragg, 566 00:24:35,711 --> 00:24:37,579 and he's now going to prosecute Trump, 567 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:39,147 taking a misdemeanor to a felony 568 00:24:39,248 --> 00:24:42,417 by merging two statutes that have never been used before. 569 00:24:42,484 --> 00:24:43,418 It's in New York. 570 00:24:43,485 --> 00:24:44,987 And most people in our side think 571 00:24:45,087 --> 00:24:48,790 it's a never-ending effort to take a wrecking ball to Trump. 572 00:24:48,891 --> 00:24:50,425 So yeah, I think it'll help him. 573 00:24:50,492 --> 00:24:52,427 OK, well, let's take another state 574 00:24:52,528 --> 00:24:55,497 where there might be a wrecking ball coming for him. 575 00:24:55,597 --> 00:24:56,999 And that's in Georgia. 576 00:24:57,099 --> 00:24:58,166 Yeah, there's Georgia. 577 00:24:58,267 --> 00:24:59,234 Yeah. 578 00:24:59,334 --> 00:25:00,903 Don't know what's going to happen there. 579 00:25:01,003 --> 00:25:01,904 No. 580 00:25:02,004 --> 00:25:03,438 And you testified there. 581 00:25:03,472 --> 00:25:04,439 I testified, and I was treated well. 582 00:25:04,473 --> 00:25:05,440 So I went there. 583 00:25:05,474 --> 00:25:06,441 You know, I wanted to tell you-- 584 00:25:06,475 --> 00:25:07,476 I didn't do this. 585 00:25:07,576 --> 00:25:08,644 I wanted to say, like, Lindsey-- 586 00:25:08,744 --> 00:25:10,479 because at first you fought testifying-- 587 00:25:10,579 --> 00:25:11,980 I said, just go there, tell the truth, 588 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,448 you have nothing to worry about. 589 00:25:13,515 --> 00:25:14,883 Yeah. AL: Didn't I? 590 00:25:14,983 --> 00:25:16,251 That's what they told Nixon. 591 00:25:16,351 --> 00:25:18,453 [laughter] 592 00:25:18,554 --> 00:25:20,722 Because you had talked to Raffensperger. 593 00:25:20,822 --> 00:25:25,093 And part of-- you know, part of this 594 00:25:25,194 --> 00:25:28,797 is he talked to Raffensperger on tape. 595 00:25:28,897 --> 00:25:29,998 We've all heard the tape. 596 00:25:30,098 --> 00:25:31,266 Yeah, he's talking to Raffensperger. 597 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,838 And he said, all I need is 11,780 votes, one more 598 00:25:36,939 --> 00:25:38,874 than we have is what he said. 599 00:25:38,974 --> 00:25:42,511 And then later in the thing said, you better do this, 600 00:25:42,611 --> 00:25:43,612 you could get in trouble. 601 00:25:43,712 --> 00:25:45,013 You and your lawyer could get in trouble. 602 00:25:45,113 --> 00:25:47,316 Now, that-- that's pretty bad. 603 00:25:47,416 --> 00:25:49,418 Well, why don't we wait till it comes out, 604 00:25:49,484 --> 00:25:53,488 see what Ms. Willis does with the grand jury testimony, 605 00:25:53,589 --> 00:25:55,724 if she chooses to indict him. 606 00:25:55,824 --> 00:25:57,926 And based on what she says, I'll respond. 607 00:25:58,026 --> 00:25:59,895 But New York is the one in front of us. 608 00:25:59,995 --> 00:26:01,129 And we'll deal with that one-- 609 00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:03,765 Well, we don't even know that because Trump said it, 610 00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:06,034 and it may not be true. 611 00:26:06,134 --> 00:26:08,704 Anything's possible. 612 00:26:08,804 --> 00:26:12,975 Anything's possible. 613 00:26:13,075 --> 00:26:14,276 But-- but you're right. 614 00:26:14,443 --> 00:26:17,713 I mean, OK, let's talk about this because Trump, in that 615 00:26:17,813 --> 00:26:20,749 tape, I remember said to Raffensperger, 616 00:26:20,849 --> 00:26:23,719 I won Georgia by over 400,000 votes. 617 00:26:23,819 --> 00:26:26,855 No, you know he won the election-- 618 00:26:26,955 --> 00:26:27,856 he lost the election. 619 00:26:27,956 --> 00:26:29,124 You know he lost the election. 620 00:26:29,224 --> 00:26:31,693 I voted to certify the Georgia election for Biden. 621 00:26:31,793 --> 00:26:32,694 Yes, I did. 622 00:26:32,794 --> 00:26:34,396 AL: Yeah, you voted to certify. 623 00:26:34,463 --> 00:26:38,066 Yes, I did. 624 00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:39,835 Because you would have been crazy not to. 625 00:26:39,935 --> 00:26:41,036 I mean-- 626 00:26:41,136 --> 00:26:43,071 Well, that doesn't mean I can't be in the Senate. 627 00:26:43,171 --> 00:26:44,606 Yeah, well, there were a number 628 00:26:44,706 --> 00:26:48,644 of your Republican colleagues who did not vote to certify. 629 00:26:48,744 --> 00:26:51,880 You know this election wasn't stolen. 630 00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:54,650 You know that Trump lost the election. 631 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,553 No, when I see Biden, I call him Mr. President. 632 00:26:57,653 --> 00:26:59,488 AL: But that's different. 633 00:26:59,588 --> 00:27:01,423 That's different than acknowledging that-- 634 00:27:01,456 --> 00:27:02,758 Well, I voted on the floor of the Senate 635 00:27:02,858 --> 00:27:05,727 to certify the results of the 2020 election. 636 00:27:05,827 --> 00:27:09,898 And here's the question for you and maybe others. 637 00:27:09,998 --> 00:27:11,633 Trump is trying to come back. 638 00:27:11,733 --> 00:27:13,569 I think he's got a better-than-good chance 639 00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:15,671 of winning the primary and a 50/50 chance 640 00:27:15,771 --> 00:27:19,308 of being president again. 641 00:27:19,441 --> 00:27:20,742 And you got to ask yourself-- 642 00:27:20,842 --> 00:27:26,215 [laughs] now, this is what we all came here for. 643 00:27:26,315 --> 00:27:27,449 Right. 644 00:27:27,482 --> 00:27:31,186 So you've got to ask yourself, how can that be? 645 00:27:31,286 --> 00:27:33,622 Well, yes. 646 00:27:33,722 --> 00:27:34,623 But-- 647 00:27:34,723 --> 00:27:36,091 [laughs] 648 00:27:36,191 --> 00:27:37,125 Here's what I-- 649 00:27:37,226 --> 00:27:38,527 Or I can ask you to ask yourself. 650 00:27:38,627 --> 00:27:41,063 Here's what I know about this country, about this democracy, 651 00:27:41,163 --> 00:27:43,198 about our Constitution. 652 00:27:43,298 --> 00:27:48,437 The number one tradition that's meaningful in this country 653 00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:52,274 is the peaceful transition of power, right? 654 00:27:52,407 --> 00:27:58,180 [applause] 655 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,681 You voted to certify. 656 00:27:59,781 --> 00:28:00,816 Mhm. 657 00:28:00,916 --> 00:28:03,752 From everything that's come out, we know 658 00:28:03,852 --> 00:28:05,821 that Lindsay Powell was lying-- 659 00:28:05,921 --> 00:28:06,822 Sidney Powell. 660 00:28:06,922 --> 00:28:07,856 Sidney, sorry. 661 00:28:07,956 --> 00:28:10,192 Sidney Powell. 662 00:28:10,292 --> 00:28:12,895 Giuliani was lying that he was told 663 00:28:12,995 --> 00:28:15,197 over and over again by his-- 664 00:28:15,297 --> 00:28:20,335 anyone who had any credibility, he lost, that there was no-- 665 00:28:20,435 --> 00:28:22,638 Bill Barr, everybody, everybody. 666 00:28:22,738 --> 00:28:28,043 How then can you want a guy who allowed 667 00:28:28,143 --> 00:28:33,382 us to go through this violent insurrection-- 668 00:28:33,415 --> 00:28:34,850 SENATOR GRAHAM: Right. 669 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:35,851 Really? 670 00:28:35,951 --> 00:28:36,852 To be president again? 671 00:28:36,952 --> 00:28:37,853 Yeah. 672 00:28:37,953 --> 00:28:39,254 Yeah, well let me just say this. 673 00:28:39,388 --> 00:28:41,690 The other side of the story is that when President Trump was 674 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:43,725 president, on the things that I care 675 00:28:43,825 --> 00:28:45,394 the most about, national security, 676 00:28:45,494 --> 00:28:46,929 I thought he did a damn good job. 677 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:50,699 He got the Abraham Accords, which is probably the biggest 678 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,168 change in my lifetime in the Mideast, where 679 00:28:53,268 --> 00:28:55,070 Arab nations recognize Israel. 680 00:28:55,170 --> 00:28:58,807 And we're trying to work on Saudi Arabia on Biden's watch. 681 00:28:58,907 --> 00:29:00,742 He killed Soleimani, who's a guy that should have 682 00:29:00,842 --> 00:29:02,044 been killed a long time ago. 683 00:29:02,144 --> 00:29:03,478 He secured our border. 684 00:29:03,579 --> 00:29:04,846 He made us energy independent. 685 00:29:04,947 --> 00:29:06,882 So I look at the policies of Trump, 686 00:29:06,982 --> 00:29:09,051 and I like the policies of Trump. 687 00:29:09,151 --> 00:29:11,854 And at the end of the day, he's got to prove to people, 688 00:29:11,954 --> 00:29:15,157 not me, that he's able to lead us again. 689 00:29:15,257 --> 00:29:16,859 And that will be a challenge for him. 690 00:29:16,959 --> 00:29:18,794 And that will be a challenge for Biden to say, 691 00:29:18,894 --> 00:29:20,829 give me four more years after the last four. 692 00:29:20,929 --> 00:29:22,264 We'll see what happens. 693 00:29:22,431 --> 00:29:24,733 Well, I think Biden wins that. 694 00:29:24,833 --> 00:29:26,001 But we don't have to say-- 695 00:29:26,101 --> 00:29:27,002 Can we bet? 696 00:29:27,102 --> 00:29:28,003 Yeah, how much? 697 00:29:28,103 --> 00:29:34,376 20 bucks. 698 00:29:34,476 --> 00:29:36,945 To be paid here. 699 00:29:37,045 --> 00:29:40,749 See, the other eight hosts asked me to come on your show. 700 00:29:40,849 --> 00:29:43,452 They're trying to knock you out, so-- 701 00:29:43,552 --> 00:29:45,254 AL: Well, there will-- there will be a permanent host, 702 00:29:45,387 --> 00:29:46,255 and it won't be me. 703 00:29:46,388 --> 00:29:47,289 But it will be somebody. 704 00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:52,427 But I mean, here's the thing. 705 00:29:52,528 --> 00:29:59,535 This guy just-- well, he pardoned all these criminals. 706 00:30:00,936 --> 00:30:04,606 I mean, that's who you pardon, I guess. 707 00:30:04,706 --> 00:30:09,811 But Manafort, Stone, Flynn. 708 00:30:09,912 --> 00:30:12,414 And he's going to populate his new administration 709 00:30:12,447 --> 00:30:13,448 with crooks if he wins. 710 00:30:13,549 --> 00:30:15,317 I'm going to give you my two cents' worth. 711 00:30:15,417 --> 00:30:17,519 It won't be about who he pardoned. 712 00:30:17,619 --> 00:30:19,855 It will be about can he make things 713 00:30:19,955 --> 00:30:21,590 better for the people who feel like things 714 00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:22,791 are not going well? 715 00:30:22,891 --> 00:30:24,293 Can he secure a broken border? 716 00:30:24,426 --> 00:30:25,294 Can he lower inflation? 717 00:30:25,427 --> 00:30:26,295 AL: OK, let's talk about the border. 718 00:30:26,428 --> 00:30:27,296 Can he make it safe? 719 00:30:27,429 --> 00:30:28,997 Let's talk about the border. 720 00:30:29,097 --> 00:30:32,501 You and I worked on-- you were one of the Gang of Eight 721 00:30:32,601 --> 00:30:33,702 in 2013. 722 00:30:33,802 --> 00:30:35,437 I've been in every gang you can be in, just about. 723 00:30:35,537 --> 00:30:36,438 Yeah. 724 00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:37,439 This was in 2013. 725 00:30:37,539 --> 00:30:38,440 Right. 726 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:39,875 We passed 68-- 727 00:30:39,975 --> 00:30:43,946 with 68 votes in the Senate, comprehensive immigration-- 728 00:30:44,046 --> 00:30:45,647 Exactly right. 729 00:30:45,747 --> 00:30:48,016 --campaign reform-- comprehensive 730 00:30:48,116 --> 00:30:49,885 immigration campaign-- reform. 731 00:30:49,985 --> 00:30:52,120 And I thought that was a great bill. 732 00:30:52,221 --> 00:30:53,121 SENATOR GRAHAM: I did too. 733 00:30:53,222 --> 00:30:54,756 And I think we need that. 734 00:30:54,857 --> 00:30:58,560 I've heard you say recently, we don't have enough workers 735 00:30:58,660 --> 00:30:59,628 in this country. 736 00:30:59,728 --> 00:31:01,597 We need immigration reform because we're 737 00:31:01,697 --> 00:31:03,532 a declining population, right? 738 00:31:03,632 --> 00:31:04,900 People like me-- I'm not married. 739 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,934 I don't have any kids. 740 00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:07,603 I'm screwing it up for the rest of you. 741 00:31:07,703 --> 00:31:10,772 So the bottom line is that we need to get a workforce 742 00:31:10,873 --> 00:31:12,074 that's more reliable. 743 00:31:12,174 --> 00:31:14,443 Let people come here, and work, and make it a win-win. 744 00:31:14,543 --> 00:31:15,911 We need to secure our border. 745 00:31:16,011 --> 00:31:19,581 We need to open up America to merit-based immigration 746 00:31:19,681 --> 00:31:20,816 from all over the world. 747 00:31:20,916 --> 00:31:22,651 And I've always believed that. 748 00:31:22,751 --> 00:31:24,486 We need to get our debt under control. 749 00:31:24,586 --> 00:31:26,121 That's going to take bipartisanship. 750 00:31:26,221 --> 00:31:27,556 But get back to the point. 751 00:31:27,656 --> 00:31:29,358 You've got to come to grips to the idea. 752 00:31:29,391 --> 00:31:32,194 A lot of Americans believe that Trump was a good president, 753 00:31:32,361 --> 00:31:34,196 but they don't like what he did or what he said. 754 00:31:34,363 --> 00:31:36,632 And this is going to be a real contest in 2024. 755 00:31:36,732 --> 00:31:39,034 [laughter] 756 00:31:39,134 --> 00:31:41,203 It will be a real contest, my friend. 757 00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:43,672 Well, I think the Florida governor is going 758 00:31:43,772 --> 00:31:45,774 to make it a real contest. 759 00:31:45,874 --> 00:31:48,944 Yeah, no, we got a deep bench on our side. 760 00:31:49,044 --> 00:31:51,513 We have a deep bench. 761 00:31:51,613 --> 00:31:52,514 AL: And so do we. 762 00:31:52,614 --> 00:31:55,517 If you're a Republican. 763 00:31:55,617 --> 00:31:57,286 I-- [stutters] 764 00:31:57,386 --> 00:31:59,087 [laughs] I made him speechless. 765 00:31:59,188 --> 00:32:00,189 This is the highlight of my life. 766 00:32:00,289 --> 00:32:01,423 He's done it. He's done it. 767 00:32:01,523 --> 00:32:02,424 [laughs] 768 00:32:02,524 --> 00:32:04,259 I just think this guy is-- 769 00:32:04,393 --> 00:32:06,161 I mean, OK, I'll say it. 770 00:32:06,261 --> 00:32:08,397 I just think he's a pathological liar. 771 00:32:08,497 --> 00:32:10,132 [laughs] And-- 772 00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:11,600 Yeah. 773 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:17,406 [cheers and applause] 774 00:32:17,506 --> 00:32:19,575 And I don't mean to be harsh, because I 775 00:32:19,675 --> 00:32:20,576 know he's your friend. 776 00:32:20,676 --> 00:32:21,610 Well, [inaudible]. 777 00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:26,815 And a malignant narcissist, and-- 778 00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:31,453 and he chose some good people to be in his administration 779 00:32:31,553 --> 00:32:32,487 at first. 780 00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:35,424 But it seemed like as those guys went, 781 00:32:35,524 --> 00:32:37,659 those men and women went, he brought 782 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,795 in worse and worse people. 783 00:32:39,895 --> 00:32:41,997 And I just-- 784 00:32:42,097 --> 00:32:44,066 I don't know how the American people 785 00:32:44,166 --> 00:32:45,467 are going to reelect this guy. 786 00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:48,770 And I understand the MAGA voters are still loyal. 787 00:32:48,871 --> 00:32:50,138 Well, it's not just about MAGA voters. 788 00:32:50,239 --> 00:32:54,810 But don't take this wrongly, he can survive your criticism. 789 00:32:54,910 --> 00:32:56,545 [laughs] He's going to be-- 790 00:32:56,645 --> 00:33:00,182 Al Franken is down on Trump is not the end of Trump. 791 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,784 So here's what's going to happen. 792 00:33:02,885 --> 00:33:05,020 If Biden doesn't secure our border quickly, 793 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,122 the people who took over Afghanistan 794 00:33:07,222 --> 00:33:08,557 are going to come back our way. 795 00:33:08,657 --> 00:33:10,792 We're living on borrowed time between the rise 796 00:33:10,893 --> 00:33:12,027 of radical Islam and Afghanistan 797 00:33:12,127 --> 00:33:13,061 and a completely open border. 798 00:33:13,161 --> 00:33:15,097 AL: You're saying the Taliban is going 799 00:33:15,197 --> 00:33:16,164 to provide cover for al-Qaeda? 800 00:33:16,265 --> 00:33:17,232 I'm saying ISISK. 801 00:33:17,332 --> 00:33:19,101 Yeah, that's what General Kurilla said. 802 00:33:19,201 --> 00:33:20,369 For ISIS? 803 00:33:20,469 --> 00:33:23,305 Yes, that's what he said two days ago, three days ago. 804 00:33:23,405 --> 00:33:24,406 OK, well-- 805 00:33:24,506 --> 00:33:26,508 Small detail. 806 00:33:26,608 --> 00:33:30,646 You know, Obama started against ISIS. 807 00:33:30,746 --> 00:33:33,949 Trump-- it was finished during the Trump administration, 808 00:33:34,049 --> 00:33:37,052 although I don't like the way Trump sold out the Kurds. 809 00:33:37,152 --> 00:33:38,987 Well, we still have troops there. 810 00:33:39,087 --> 00:33:40,255 No, he wanted to get out. 811 00:33:40,422 --> 00:33:42,324 But I went and said, you know, they'll come back, 812 00:33:42,424 --> 00:33:44,560 Mr. President-- the Kurds, the Syrian Democratic forces. 813 00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:45,561 AL: And also didn't-- 814 00:33:45,661 --> 00:33:46,728 But he left them in. 815 00:33:46,828 --> 00:33:48,497 AL: Trump wanted to leave Afghanistan sooner. 816 00:33:48,597 --> 00:33:50,065 Yeah, but he didn't. 817 00:33:50,165 --> 00:33:51,433 And Biden did. 818 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,102 And I went to Biden, and I went to Blinken and Sullivan, 819 00:33:54,203 --> 00:33:56,338 and said, if you'll keep a force there, 820 00:33:56,438 --> 00:33:57,673 I'll stick with you, give you whatever 821 00:33:57,773 --> 00:33:59,007 support I can from the right. 822 00:33:59,107 --> 00:34:00,442 But they chose poorly. 823 00:34:00,509 --> 00:34:02,811 So this election is going to be a big-deal election 824 00:34:02,911 --> 00:34:04,947 about security, how are we doing 825 00:34:05,047 --> 00:34:08,150 here domestically, how safe are we, how prosperous are we. 826 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:10,586 This whole defund the police stuff blew up 827 00:34:10,686 --> 00:34:12,521 in democratic friends' face. 828 00:34:12,621 --> 00:34:14,189 And we'll see what happens in 2024. 829 00:34:14,289 --> 00:34:15,524 That was not-- 830 00:34:15,624 --> 00:34:20,462 that was not something that any percentage of Democrats 831 00:34:20,529 --> 00:34:21,563 really believed in. 832 00:34:21,663 --> 00:34:23,465 That was actually the Minneapolis City Council 833 00:34:23,532 --> 00:34:27,769 who did that after George Floyd and put out a thing that said 834 00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:28,937 "defund the police." That was-- 835 00:34:29,037 --> 00:34:30,205 SENATOR GRAHAM: I know there's nothing 836 00:34:30,305 --> 00:34:31,406 funny going on right now. 837 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,976 But it is important between me-- listen, 838 00:34:34,076 --> 00:34:36,612 I know you think Trump's horrible for the country, 839 00:34:36,712 --> 00:34:37,913 and a lot of people believe that he 840 00:34:38,013 --> 00:34:40,115 can fix the problems that we're suffering under now. 841 00:34:40,215 --> 00:34:42,050 But here's the good news. 842 00:34:42,150 --> 00:34:44,953 We'll have an election, and they will decide. 843 00:34:45,053 --> 00:34:45,954 AL: Yep. 844 00:34:46,054 --> 00:34:51,226 [applause] 845 00:34:51,326 --> 00:34:53,428 That's the way it's supposed to work. 846 00:34:53,529 --> 00:34:54,429 Yes. 847 00:34:54,530 --> 00:34:55,430 Yes. 848 00:34:55,531 --> 00:34:59,535 [cheers and applause] 849 00:34:59,635 --> 00:35:02,437 Lindsey Graham, everybody. 850 00:35:17,357 --> 00:35:18,825 [cheers and applause] 851 00:35:18,926 --> 00:35:22,362 Well, that's our-- 852 00:35:22,462 --> 00:35:24,431 that's our show for tonight. 853 00:35:24,531 --> 00:35:28,068 But before we go, please consider supporting HIAS. 854 00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:32,706 HIAS, they are a nonprofit that provides humanitarian aid 855 00:35:32,806 --> 00:35:35,876 to Ukraine refugees, mostly women, 856 00:35:35,976 --> 00:35:37,511 children, and the elderly. 857 00:35:37,611 --> 00:35:39,580 And this helps the soldiers fighting 858 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,583 the war know that their families are 859 00:35:42,683 --> 00:35:44,384 safe and well taken care of. 860 00:35:44,484 --> 00:35:49,323 So please, if you can, donate at the link below. 861 00:35:49,423 --> 00:35:52,926 Thank you. 862 00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:57,331 Now, here it is, your moment of zen. 863 00:35:57,431 --> 00:35:59,733 Mayor Rudy Giuliani, always amazing to see you. 864 00:35:59,833 --> 00:36:00,734 Love you. 865 00:36:00,834 --> 00:36:01,735 Sorry. 866 00:36:01,835 --> 00:36:03,937 I'm just so honored always-- 867 00:36:04,037 --> 00:36:05,873 as always, to interview you, sir. 868 00:36:05,973 --> 00:36:07,975 You were a prosecutor. 869 00:36:08,075 --> 00:36:09,376 What would you have done if somebody said, 870 00:36:09,476 --> 00:36:12,446 here's the case, prosecute this? 871 00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,514 Well, here's what I would have done. 872 00:36:14,615 --> 00:36:16,750 I would have told them to go to hell. 873 00:36:16,817 --> 00:36:19,353 [audio out] I had it happen. 874 00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:20,754 REPORTER: Oh, it looks like we're having 875 00:36:20,787 --> 00:36:23,757 some audio issues there. 876 00:36:23,857 --> 00:36:26,472 [singsongy "mtv"]