1 00:00:01,168 --> 00:00:02,503 Hey! What's going on, everybody? 2 00:00:02,536 --> 00:00:04,004 Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 3 00:00:04,037 --> 00:00:05,839 I'm Trevor Noah. Today is Thursday, 4 00:00:05,873 --> 00:00:08,775 the 10th of December, which means Christmas 5 00:00:08,809 --> 00:00:11,144 is now only 15 days away! 6 00:00:11,178 --> 00:00:13,780 Yeah! And if you haven't done your Christmas shopping yet, 7 00:00:13,814 --> 00:00:16,350 just do what I do: wait until your loved one 8 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:18,852 is opening someone else's gift and then say, 9 00:00:18,886 --> 00:00:21,221 "Oh, that's from me, too! We both went in on that. 10 00:00:21,255 --> 00:00:23,524 We went halfsies. Merry Christmas!" 11 00:00:23,557 --> 00:00:25,192 Anyway, coming up on tonight's show-- 12 00:00:25,225 --> 00:00:27,761 Facebook and Instagram might be getting a divorce, 13 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:30,964 we look back on why you were in the streets this year, 14 00:00:30,998 --> 00:00:33,333 and we've got Bryan Cranston and Rachel Maddow 15 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:34,668 joining us on the show. 16 00:00:34,701 --> 00:00:36,303 So, let's do this people. 17 00:00:36,336 --> 00:00:39,339 Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 18 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:40,807 ? ? 19 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:42,943 ANNOUNCER: From Trevor's couch in New York City 20 00:00:42,976 --> 00:00:45,512 to your couch somewhere in the world, 21 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:47,814 this is The Daily Social Distancing Show 22 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:49,449 with Trevor Noah. 23 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:51,185 ? ? 24 00:00:51,218 --> 00:00:54,121 Let's kick it off with a holiday story. 25 00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:56,356 If you've been listening to the music in the background 26 00:00:56,390 --> 00:00:59,359 of any store over the past week, you know that this is 27 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:02,129 the most wonderful time of the year. 28 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:03,664 But it's still 2020. 29 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,933 Which means even the holidays 30 00:01:05,966 --> 00:01:08,302 are a little less jolly than usual. 31 00:01:08,335 --> 00:01:10,671 Online shopping instead of going to the mall. 32 00:01:10,704 --> 00:01:12,673 Zoom parties instead of real ones. 33 00:01:12,706 --> 00:01:14,975 And now this. 34 00:01:15,008 --> 00:01:16,643 NEWSMAN: Say it ain't so. 35 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:19,346 The makers of Pepperidge Farm cookies say 36 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:21,949 there may be a shortage of cookies this holiday season. 37 00:01:21,982 --> 00:01:24,351 -NEWSMAN 2: No. -And they blame it on increased demand 38 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:25,786 and a labor shortage, 39 00:01:25,819 --> 00:01:28,055 both results of the pandemic, of course. 40 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:30,824 A recent survey shows cookie consumption has increased 41 00:01:30,858 --> 00:01:33,227 by 25% since the start of the pandemic, 42 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:34,728 with one in five Americans 43 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:37,331 eating three or more cookies a day. 44 00:01:37,364 --> 00:01:39,433 Okay, you know what? That's not cool. 45 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:41,401 Like, I don't know why the news is now reporting 46 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:42,870 on the number of cookies I eat. 47 00:01:42,903 --> 00:01:44,905 Yeah, I eat more than three. Why is that news? 48 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:46,406 What am I supposed to do? It's a pandemic. 49 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,908 Do you just want me to cry every day? 50 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:50,110 Now, apparently, this crisis is not just being caused 51 00:01:50,143 --> 00:01:51,678 by increased demand. 52 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:53,881 It's also a labor shortage. 53 00:01:53,914 --> 00:01:56,683 Which I assume means that the Keebler Elves are on strike 54 00:01:56,717 --> 00:01:58,986 to protest their dangerous working conditions. 55 00:01:59,019 --> 00:02:02,289 If you've ever had a crunchy cookie, that's elf bones. 56 00:02:02,322 --> 00:02:04,525 So look, I understand why there's a shortage, 57 00:02:04,558 --> 00:02:06,693 but still, man, this is so messed up. 58 00:02:06,727 --> 00:02:09,296 Christmas is the cookie season. 59 00:02:09,329 --> 00:02:11,899 This is like Trojan announcing that they have a condom shortage 60 00:02:11,932 --> 00:02:14,134 on Valentine's Day-- if I can't buy condoms, 61 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:16,503 how am I supposed to impress the guy at 7/Eleven 62 00:02:16,537 --> 00:02:18,739 before I go home and play video games by myself? 63 00:02:18,772 --> 00:02:21,141 And I know, I know some of you people are saying, 64 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:23,210 "But, Trevor, you don't need to buy cookies. 65 00:02:23,243 --> 00:02:25,812 You can just bake your own cookies at home." 66 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:27,614 No! No, no, no. 67 00:02:27,648 --> 00:02:29,650 That was the first three months of quarantine. 68 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:31,652 I'm done with that baking shit now. 69 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:35,722 And... this is gonna be real bad news for Santa Claus. 70 00:02:35,756 --> 00:02:39,193 You think he's gonna travel around the world for a pear? 71 00:02:39,226 --> 00:02:41,562 I wouldn't even walk across the room for a pear. 72 00:02:41,595 --> 00:02:43,797 This man needs cookies to keep up his energy 73 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:46,300 so that he can give presents to all the kids 74 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:50,170 and then have Christmas sex with all our moms. (laughs) 75 00:02:50,204 --> 00:02:52,272 Let's move on to some news out of Great Britain. 76 00:02:52,306 --> 00:02:55,175 It's the country with the non-Beyoncé queen. 77 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:56,910 During the coronavirus lockdowns, 78 00:02:56,944 --> 00:02:59,580 many Brits have gotten so desperate for entertainment 79 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:02,449 that they have taken up gardening. 80 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:04,718 And some of them are being rewarded for their efforts 81 00:03:04,751 --> 00:03:06,887 with more than a new flower bed. 82 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,356 Now proof that gardening can be beneficial 83 00:03:09,389 --> 00:03:11,491 in more ways than you might think. 84 00:03:11,525 --> 00:03:13,827 A family from the New Forest discovered this hoard 85 00:03:13,861 --> 00:03:17,397 of gold coins while doing a spot of weeding. 86 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:19,900 The British Museum says it's one of a string of finds 87 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,269 reported during the first lockdown in the spring. 88 00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:24,972 It's thought the coins would have been worth-- wait for it-- 89 00:03:25,005 --> 00:03:28,775 the equivalent of 14,000 pounds in today's money. 90 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:31,945 How good would that be to discover that in your garden? 91 00:03:31,979 --> 00:03:33,547 Whoo! 92 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:36,683 Imagine finding a hoard of gold coins while you're gardening. 93 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,152 I'll tell you what, that's the end of gardening. 94 00:03:39,186 --> 00:03:41,455 Man, forget these rhubarbs. I'm rich! 95 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:43,457 But, you know, this is just one of the benefits 96 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:45,425 of living in the UK. 97 00:03:45,459 --> 00:03:47,828 Because anytime I dig for treasure in New York, 98 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:50,764 I just end up in my downstairs neighbor's apartment. 99 00:03:52,799 --> 00:03:56,970 Sorry, Jerry. Looks like I did it again. 100 00:03:57,004 --> 00:04:00,174 Also, there's just so much more buried treasure in Britain, 101 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:02,309 because it's an old country 102 00:04:02,342 --> 00:04:04,978 with thousands of years of civilization. 103 00:04:05,012 --> 00:04:07,247 Gardeners in America would be like, "Wow! 104 00:04:07,281 --> 00:04:09,550 "A can of New Coke from 1985! 105 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:12,719 The history books speak of such things.' 106 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,889 So, congratulations to that British gardening family 107 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:18,525 for their find-- although they should be careful. 108 00:04:18,559 --> 00:04:20,694 The original owner might be coming back 109 00:04:20,727 --> 00:04:22,029 for that money, you never know. 110 00:04:22,062 --> 00:04:23,931 Next week, the dad'll open the door 111 00:04:23,964 --> 00:04:26,033 and see an ancient knight standing there. 112 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:28,869 Whither is my treasure? 113 00:04:28,902 --> 00:04:32,372 You're looking at it. I got myself a butt lift. 114 00:04:32,406 --> 00:04:33,907 Damn! 115 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:36,043 I hate to lose my coins, 116 00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:38,745 but I love to watch them leave. 117 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:41,148 Meanwhile. Back in the United States. 118 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:44,718 Do you guys remember the, um, 2020 presidential election? 119 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:47,487 You know, it was the day when you voted for a president, 120 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:48,956 and a bunch of local races 121 00:04:48,989 --> 00:04:51,158 that you had to google from inside the voting booth. 122 00:04:51,191 --> 00:04:52,626 Well, one of the stories 123 00:04:52,659 --> 00:04:54,862 we thought we'd never have to hear about again 124 00:04:54,895 --> 00:04:56,763 once the election was over 125 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:59,299 just came roaring back to life. 126 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:01,235 Hunter Biden, the President-elect's son, 127 00:05:01,268 --> 00:05:03,170 says the U.S. Attorney in Delaware 128 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:05,739 is investigating his tax records. 129 00:05:05,772 --> 00:05:08,775 Sources tell CBS News the FBI Has been looking into 130 00:05:08,809 --> 00:05:11,979 Hunter Biden's taxes since 2018. 131 00:05:12,012 --> 00:05:13,814 Under Justice Department policy, 132 00:05:13,847 --> 00:05:16,283 law enforcement didn't actively pursue the case 133 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,119 during the weeks before the presidential election 134 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,788 to avoid politicizing the investigation. 135 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:24,725 That's right, people, apparently, Hunter Biden 136 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:27,060 is under investigation for his taxes. 137 00:05:27,094 --> 00:05:30,464 And Donald Trump must be furious right now. 138 00:05:30,497 --> 00:05:34,001 Did you guys see that Hunter Biden is being investigated 139 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:35,769 for tax fraud? 140 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:37,371 I'm so angry! 141 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:39,439 Sir, are you angry because you wanted to use it 142 00:05:39,473 --> 00:05:41,375 against his dad for the election? 143 00:05:41,408 --> 00:05:44,011 No! I'm angry 'cause tax fraud is my thing. 144 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:47,047 How's he stealing my thing? Criminals. 145 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,750 And I'm not gonna lie, Hunger Biden announcing 146 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:52,886 his own investigation-- whew!-- that is a pretty gangsta move. 147 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,522 I mean, usually you see pictures of people covering their faces 148 00:05:55,556 --> 00:05:57,057 when they run into court. 149 00:05:57,090 --> 00:05:58,926 You know, they're trying to hide that there's an investigation. 150 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,428 But Hunter's like a guy coming home late at night like, 151 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:03,830 "Uh, babe, you're gonna want to go through my phone." 152 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:06,233 Honestly, I think that in the end, 153 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:08,335 this kind of scandal will be good for America. 154 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:11,638 Because we just spent four years with scandals 24/7. 155 00:06:11,672 --> 00:06:15,142 We can't just go down to zero scandals cold turkey. 156 00:06:15,175 --> 00:06:19,213 And Biden's family is gonna help us taper it down. 157 00:06:19,246 --> 00:06:21,448 Like, right now, Hunter has a tax thing, you know? 158 00:06:21,481 --> 00:06:23,884 But this is just a tax scandal. Maybe next year, 159 00:06:23,917 --> 00:06:25,552 Joe Biden asks the Ukrainian president 160 00:06:25,586 --> 00:06:26,954 for something inappropriate, 161 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:29,056 but it's just the answers to a crossword puzzle. 162 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:30,858 Just ease us off, ease us off. 163 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:32,893 Right now we're addicted to scandals. 164 00:06:32,926 --> 00:06:34,862 Now, look, we don't really know what, if anything, 165 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,797 this Hunter Biden story will lead to, 166 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:39,499 but if he has done anything wrong, 167 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:42,402 my advice would be to ask President Trump 168 00:06:42,436 --> 00:06:44,404 for a pardon before he leaves. 169 00:06:44,438 --> 00:06:46,406 And I know that may seem unlikely, 170 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,675 but based on how Trump has been making it rain, 171 00:06:48,709 --> 00:06:50,177 anything is possible. 172 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:52,479 The clock is winding down now on this Trump presidency 173 00:06:52,513 --> 00:06:54,248 with growing signs he's planning 174 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:57,050 what many see as a potential pardon avalanche. 175 00:06:57,084 --> 00:06:59,620 Axios, which often reports directly 176 00:06:59,653 --> 00:07:02,055 leaks out of the White House, says Trump telling an advisor 177 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:05,592 he's gonna pardon: "Every person who ever talked to me." 178 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:08,328 They're saying Trump isn't just accepting pardon requests, 179 00:07:08,362 --> 00:07:11,665 but blindly discussing them like Christmas gifts 180 00:07:11,698 --> 00:07:13,867 to people who haven't even asked. 181 00:07:13,901 --> 00:07:15,969 One source felt awkward because the president 182 00:07:16,003 --> 00:07:17,871 was clearly trying to be helpful, 183 00:07:17,905 --> 00:07:22,776 but the advisor didn't believe they had committed any crimes. 184 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:24,912 (laughs) I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. 185 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:26,847 I just love this story. 186 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,950 Because the way the story's reported, it makes it sound 187 00:07:29,983 --> 00:07:32,686 like Trump is just whistling down the hallway like... 188 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:34,688 (whistling) I pardon you. I pardon you. 189 00:07:34,721 --> 00:07:36,590 Morning, Steven. You're pardoned. 190 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:38,158 Hello, break room doughnut. 191 00:07:38,192 --> 00:07:40,561 You're pardoned, but I'm still gonna eat you. 192 00:07:40,594 --> 00:07:41,962 Num, num, num, num. 193 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:43,830 ? Pardoned doughnut in my belly. ? 194 00:07:43,864 --> 00:07:46,066 But yeah, that's right, apparently, Trump is saying 195 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:50,037 he's gonna pardon every person he's ever spoken to. 196 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:52,206 Which, first of all, is too bad for Eric. 197 00:07:52,239 --> 00:07:54,608 And second, of course Trump is gonna give out pardons 198 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:55,843 as Christmas gifts-- 199 00:07:55,876 --> 00:07:58,011 he doesn't have to spend any money on them. 200 00:07:58,045 --> 00:08:00,013 But what I do love is that some of his advisors 201 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:01,982 are trying to avoid getting pardoned. 202 00:08:02,015 --> 00:08:04,852 Because, get this, they know that a pardon 203 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:07,020 would make them look bad. 204 00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:10,023 And so now they're trying to explain that to Trump. 205 00:08:10,057 --> 00:08:11,992 Uh, Mr. President, I don't really need a pardon, 206 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:13,827 because, like, I didn't do anything. 207 00:08:13,861 --> 00:08:15,529 I'm not guilty of anything. 208 00:08:15,562 --> 00:08:18,098 Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down! 209 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:20,467 What does "not guilty" mean? 210 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:23,003 And finally, today's big tech news 211 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:24,538 is about Facebook. 212 00:08:24,571 --> 00:08:27,407 You know, the site that helps you and your high school friends 213 00:08:27,441 --> 00:08:29,443 connect with violent extremists. 214 00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:31,845 It's one of the most powerful companies in the world, 215 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,249 but it might just have met its match. 216 00:08:35,282 --> 00:08:37,017 46 states have joined the government's 217 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:39,386 groundbreaking legal challenge to Facebook. 218 00:08:39,419 --> 00:08:41,355 Two antitrust lawsuits accuse 219 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:42,756 the world's biggest social network 220 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:45,659 of illegally shutting down the competition. 221 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:47,594 NEWSMAN: The Federal Trade Commission is asking 222 00:08:47,628 --> 00:08:50,364 for a federal court to force Facebook 223 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:53,467 to sell off assets like Instagram and WhatsApp, 224 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:56,470 arguing that in acquiring those competitors, 225 00:08:56,503 --> 00:08:59,740 Facebook illegally created a monopoly. 226 00:08:59,773 --> 00:09:02,509 On Wednesday, a bipartisan group of attorneys general 227 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:04,778 from nearly every U.S. state 228 00:09:04,811 --> 00:09:07,581 filed its own lawsuit against Facebook, 229 00:09:07,614 --> 00:09:10,918 accusing the company of predatory behavior. 230 00:09:10,951 --> 00:09:12,953 NEWSWOMAN: New York's attorney general, Letitia James, 231 00:09:12,986 --> 00:09:14,521 is leading the lawsuit by the states, 232 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:16,423 alleging if companies... 233 00:09:16,456 --> 00:09:17,824 (reading): 234 00:09:24,565 --> 00:09:27,034 Some people believe that, uh, Facebook is free. 235 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:28,969 It really isn't free. 236 00:09:29,002 --> 00:09:31,271 The fact is is that they use your personal data, 237 00:09:31,305 --> 00:09:34,208 and they monetize it, and they sell it to advertisers. 238 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:36,076 And as a result of that, 239 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:38,278 your data, your privacy-- 240 00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:40,781 those protections are compromised. 241 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:43,984 Okay, guys, this is, like, huge. 242 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:47,054 46 states and the federal government 243 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:50,891 are suing to break up Facebook. 244 00:09:50,924 --> 00:09:52,960 That just shows you how widespread the feeling is 245 00:09:52,993 --> 00:09:54,328 that Big Tech has gotten out of hand, 246 00:09:54,361 --> 00:09:56,463 because it didn't used to be that way. 247 00:09:56,496 --> 00:09:59,166 Remember how back in the day, we all had that cousin? 248 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:01,268 You know, that cousin home from college who was like, 249 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:03,971 "I'm not giving the corporations my private photos." 250 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:06,240 And most of us were like, "Man, we get what you're saying, 251 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:07,541 but you're also a vegan." 252 00:10:07,574 --> 00:10:10,844 But now, more and more, the rest of us are like, 253 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:13,146 "Huh, maybe I shouldn't have given Big Tech 254 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:15,582 "a perfect scan of my face so that they can recognize me 255 00:10:15,616 --> 00:10:16,884 wherever I go on the planet." 256 00:10:16,917 --> 00:10:19,219 Although, personally, I'm not too worried 257 00:10:19,253 --> 00:10:21,622 that Facebook knows everything about me 258 00:10:21,655 --> 00:10:25,125 and can manipulate me into buying stuff I don't need. 259 00:10:25,158 --> 00:10:28,996 I mean, some people might fall for that, but... 260 00:10:29,029 --> 00:10:30,697 Oh, snap. Wow. 261 00:10:30,731 --> 00:10:32,099 I don't have a hoodie in that color. 262 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,634 Yeah, I'll buy one. 263 00:10:33,667 --> 00:10:35,669 Wow, that's amazing. 264 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:37,704 Oh, sorry. 265 00:10:37,738 --> 00:10:39,606 Uh, yeah, that doesn't work on me, 266 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,841 those ads and things. 267 00:10:40,874 --> 00:10:42,910 And can I just say, I am very impressed 268 00:10:42,943 --> 00:10:44,845 that so many government officials 269 00:10:44,878 --> 00:10:47,581 are willing to come out against Facebook, 270 00:10:47,614 --> 00:10:49,349 especially when you consider 271 00:10:49,383 --> 00:10:51,218 how much Facebook knows about them. 272 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:54,321 I mean, at the next hearing, some judge could be like, 273 00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:55,689 "Give me one good reason 274 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,559 why we shouldn't break up Facebook and Instagram." 275 00:10:58,592 --> 00:11:01,328 "Well, we've given everybody so much joy, Your Honor. 276 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:04,031 "In fact, let's just look at all of the messages 277 00:11:04,064 --> 00:11:06,366 that you've sent all of these Instagram thots." 278 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,302 "Ok-Okay, okay, case dismissed. 279 00:11:08,335 --> 00:11:10,337 Let's move on." 280 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:12,539 What's amazing to me is that even though America 281 00:11:12,573 --> 00:11:16,143 is so divided right now, almost every state agrees 282 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,445 that something needs to be done about Big Tech. 283 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:21,248 And look, whatever the merits of this particular lawsuit, 284 00:11:21,281 --> 00:11:23,750 the fact that it was brought at all 285 00:11:23,784 --> 00:11:25,619 should be a warning for Facebook, 286 00:11:25,652 --> 00:11:27,921 because if what you're doing is so egregious 287 00:11:27,955 --> 00:11:31,658 that you're bringing California and Mississippi together, 288 00:11:31,692 --> 00:11:34,261 you done (bleep) up. 289 00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:35,495 All right, we're gonna take a quick break, 290 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:36,897 but when we come back, 291 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:39,666 Dulcé Sloan looks back at all the protests of 2020, 292 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:42,703 and Rachel Maddow is joining me on the show. 293 00:11:42,736 --> 00:11:42,803 Stick around. 294 00:11:44,069 --> 00:11:49,574 DAILY SOCIAL DISTANCING SHOW." 295 00:11:49,608 --> 00:11:50,285 DAILY SOCIAL DISTANCING SHOW." 296 00:11:50,286 --> 00:11:52,657 2020 IS ALMOST OVER, AND I THINK 297 00:11:52,658 --> 00:11:55,680 WE CAN ALL AGREE IT HAS BEEN THE 298 00:11:55,682 --> 00:11:56,526 DOPEST YEAR EVER. 299 00:11:56,527 --> 00:11:57,213 EVERYTHING WAS GREAT! 300 00:11:57,215 --> 00:11:58,406 AND FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH, 301 00:11:58,407 --> 00:11:59,635 WE’LL BE REMEMBERING ALL OF THE 302 00:11:59,670 --> 00:12:00,244 YEAR’S TOP MOMENTS. 303 00:12:00,245 --> 00:12:02,228 TODAY, DULCE SLOAN LOOKS BACK AT 304 00:12:02,229 --> 00:12:07,559 ALL THE PROTESTS OF 2020. ♪ ♪ ♪ 305 00:12:09,762 --> 00:12:12,764 DURING 2020, WE WERE EITHER 306 00:12:12,765 --> 00:12:13,670 DURING 2020, WE WERE EITHER 307 00:12:13,671 --> 00:12:15,181 STUCK INDOORS QUARANTINED OR WE 308 00:12:15,215 --> 00:12:16,171 WERE OUTSIDE PROTESTING. 309 00:12:16,172 --> 00:12:17,837 THERE WAS NO IN BETWEEN. 310 00:12:17,838 --> 00:12:19,394 IN FACT, SOMETIMES, I COULDN’T 311 00:12:19,429 --> 00:12:20,862 SEPARATE THE TWO. 312 00:12:20,863 --> 00:12:23,706 I’D BE HOME GOING, "WHAT DO I 313 00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:24,019 WANT? 314 00:12:24,053 --> 00:12:24,559 BREAKFAST! 315 00:12:24,594 --> 00:12:26,003 WHEN DO I WANT IT? 316 00:12:26,004 --> 00:12:26,397 NOW!" 317 00:12:26,432 --> 00:12:28,103 IT SEEMED LIKE THE YEAR OF 318 00:12:28,138 --> 00:12:29,352 EVERYONE SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 319 00:12:29,353 --> 00:12:31,058 AND TAKING IT TO THE STREETS. 320 00:12:31,093 --> 00:12:32,320 LET’S START WITH THE BIGGEST 321 00:12:32,355 --> 00:12:33,269 MOVEMENT OF THEM ALL, BLACK 322 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:34,183 LIVES MATTER. 323 00:12:34,184 --> 00:12:35,598 IN THE WAKE OF GEORGE FLOYD’S 324 00:12:35,599 --> 00:12:37,697 MURDER, AMERICANS TOOK TO THE 325 00:12:37,699 --> 00:12:39,494 STREETS TO TELL COPS, "HEY, WHAT 326 00:12:39,495 --> 00:12:42,295 IF YOU STOP KILLING THE PEOPLE 327 00:12:42,296 --> 00:12:44,074 YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT?" 328 00:12:44,075 --> 00:12:45,839 BUT IN RESPONSE THE PEOPLE 329 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,659 ASKING COPS NOTO THE BEAT THEIR 330 00:12:48,660 --> 00:12:50,234 ASSES, A LOT OF COPS STARTED 331 00:12:50,268 --> 00:12:51,169 BEATING ASSES. 332 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:53,855 HE KEPT HITTING ME AND HE 333 00:12:53,857 --> 00:12:55,626 EVENTUALLY HIT MY HAND AND BROKE 334 00:12:55,661 --> 00:12:56,175 IT. 335 00:12:56,176 --> 00:12:58,072 I NEEDED TO STAY AS CALM AS 336 00:12:58,107 --> 00:12:58,349 POSSIBLE. 337 00:12:58,383 --> 00:12:59,606 I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THESE GUYS 338 00:12:59,607 --> 00:13:00,702 WERE CAPABLE OF. 339 00:13:00,703 --> 00:13:02,922 THESE COPS ARE SO STUPID, NOT 340 00:13:02,923 --> 00:13:04,323 BECAUSE THEY’RE TRYING TO BEAT 341 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:08,138 UP AN UNARMED MAN BUT IF A HIT A 342 00:13:08,139 --> 00:13:10,227 MAN THAT HARD WITH A BATON AND 343 00:13:10,229 --> 00:13:11,825 HE JUST STOOD THERE, I WOULDN’T 344 00:13:11,826 --> 00:13:12,792 KEEP HITTING HIM. 345 00:13:12,826 --> 00:13:14,393 I WOULD BE LIKE, THIS MAN IS A 346 00:13:14,427 --> 00:13:16,280 TERMINATOR, RUN! 347 00:13:16,281 --> 00:13:20,296 SOME PROTESTERS SHOWED US THEIR 348 00:13:20,298 --> 00:13:21,851 WHOLE ASS. 349 00:13:21,885 --> 00:13:26,032 SHE CAPTURED THE IMAGINATION 350 00:13:26,033 --> 00:13:28,697 OF AMERICANS WHEN SHE STAGED A 351 00:13:28,698 --> 00:13:29,779 FULL-FRONTAL PROTEST. 352 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:33,246 I SAID, "I WANT TO BE NAKED." 353 00:13:33,248 --> 00:13:37,400 SOCIAL MEDIA IS CALLING THIS 354 00:13:37,434 --> 00:13:39,394 GOOFY BITCH NAKED ATHENA. 355 00:13:39,395 --> 00:13:41,432 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 356 00:13:41,433 --> 00:13:42,992 THESE 2020 PROTESTS RAN THE FULL 357 00:13:43,026 --> 00:13:44,547 SPECTRUM FROM BLACK LIVES MATTER 358 00:13:44,581 --> 00:13:46,234 WHERE PEOPLE WERE FIGHTING FOR 359 00:13:46,235 --> 00:13:48,346 THEIR RIGHT TO LIVE, TO THE 360 00:13:48,381 --> 00:13:49,484 PROTEST AGAINST LOCKDOWN AND 361 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:51,035 FACE MASK WHERE PEOPLE WERE 362 00:13:51,068 --> 00:13:53,287 FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHT TO DIE. 363 00:13:53,321 --> 00:13:56,083 AND WE’VE ALL SEEN THE CLIPS OF 364 00:13:56,084 --> 00:13:57,597 COVID KARENS LOSING THEIR SHIT 365 00:13:57,631 --> 00:13:58,758 IN TARGETTOR WHOLE FOODS FOR 366 00:13:58,792 --> 00:13:59,968 HAVING TO WEAR A MASK. 367 00:14:00,002 --> 00:14:01,222 ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOMENTS 368 00:14:01,223 --> 00:14:02,101 PROVED NOT EVERY KAREN WAS A 369 00:14:02,102 --> 00:14:02,637 WOMAN. 370 00:14:02,671 --> 00:14:04,755 THE MASK WARS RAGE ON. 371 00:14:04,756 --> 00:14:06,602 A DAD LOSES IT IN A STORE AFTER 372 00:14:06,603 --> 00:14:08,044 BEING TOLD TO COVER UP. 373 00:14:08,078 --> 00:14:09,518 THE MAN’S SON LITERALLY PICKS 374 00:14:09,552 --> 00:14:11,775 HIM UP AND CARRIES HIM RIGHT OUT 375 00:14:11,776 --> 00:14:13,366 OF THE STORE. 376 00:14:13,367 --> 00:14:17,001 I’LL BEAT THAT ( BLEEP ) MASK 377 00:14:17,002 --> 00:14:18,530 OFF YOUR FACE AND ( BLEEP ). 378 00:14:18,531 --> 00:14:19,662 ( BLEEP )! 379 00:14:19,663 --> 00:14:21,318 YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF PUSSIES 380 00:14:21,319 --> 00:14:22,380 WEARING MASKS! 381 00:14:22,414 --> 00:14:25,146 YOUR OWN SON CARRIED YOU OUT. 382 00:14:25,181 --> 00:14:27,312 YOU CAN’T CALL SOMEONE ELSE A 383 00:14:27,313 --> 00:14:29,248 PUSSY WHEN YOU’RE BEING CARRIED 384 00:14:29,249 --> 00:14:31,353 OUT BY THE PERSON WHO CAME OUT 385 00:14:31,354 --> 00:14:32,580 OF YOUR BALLS. 386 00:14:32,581 --> 00:14:33,897 EVEN NAKED BITCH KEPT THER MASK 387 00:14:33,898 --> 00:14:34,362 ON. 388 00:14:34,396 --> 00:14:36,260 LOOK, I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT 389 00:14:36,262 --> 00:14:38,192 WANTING TO COVER A BUL, 390 00:14:38,226 --> 00:14:39,527 SYMMETRIC FACE. 391 00:14:39,529 --> 00:14:42,413 I MEAN, LOOK AT YOUR GIRL. 392 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:44,336 BUT THERE’S A DEADLY GLOBAL 393 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:45,583 PANDEMIC RAVAGING THE COUNTRY. 394 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:47,712 PLUS IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO A 395 00:14:47,713 --> 00:14:48,787 BEAUTY ROUTINE UNDER A 396 00:14:48,789 --> 00:14:49,447 VENTILATOR. 397 00:14:49,482 --> 00:14:51,863 SO EVEN IF I SURVIVE, I’D LIKE 398 00:14:51,898 --> 00:14:53,528 ASHY AS ( BLEEP ). 399 00:14:53,529 --> 00:14:54,928 IN WHICH CASE, WHAT WAS POINT? 400 00:14:54,929 --> 00:14:56,374 PROTESTS HAVE BEEN SUCH A HUGE 401 00:14:56,408 --> 00:14:57,860 PART OF 2020, THAT AFTER THE 402 00:14:57,894 --> 00:14:58,743 ELECTION, AMERICANS STARTED 403 00:14:58,744 --> 00:15:00,950 PROTESTING STUFF THAT DIDN’T 404 00:15:00,984 --> 00:15:02,348 EVEN HAPPEN. 405 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:05,953 SO THE TRUMP STANDS TOOK TO THE 406 00:15:05,954 --> 00:15:07,305 STREET DEMANDING THEY STOP THE 407 00:15:07,306 --> 00:15:07,517 COUNT. 408 00:15:07,518 --> 00:15:08,827 STOP THE COUNT! 409 00:15:08,828 --> 00:15:10,264 OR COUNT ALL THE VOTES. 410 00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:11,694 COUNT THE VOTES! 411 00:15:11,696 --> 00:15:14,392 OR COUNT SOME OF ALL THE 412 00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:15,886 VOTES THEN STOP THE COUNT-- YOU 413 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,970 KNOW IT REALLY DEPENDED ON WHO 414 00:15:16,971 --> 00:15:17,709 YOU ASKED. 415 00:15:17,744 --> 00:15:20,777 IT WOULD BE LIKE BLACK LIVES 416 00:15:20,812 --> 00:15:22,952 MATTER GOING, "STOP KILLING US, 417 00:15:22,953 --> 00:15:24,373 EXCEPT FOR DESEAN, HE AIN’T SHIT 418 00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:25,169 ANYWAY." 419 00:15:25,203 --> 00:15:28,236 BY FAR MY FAVORITE ELECTION 420 00:15:28,237 --> 00:15:30,920 PROTESTER WAS THIS DUDE. 421 00:15:30,954 --> 00:15:34,776 THE MEDIA IS COVERING UP. 422 00:15:34,778 --> 00:15:36,467 THE BIDEN FAMILY STEALS THIS 423 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:36,944 ELECTION! 424 00:15:36,946 --> 00:15:39,219 THE MEDIA IS COVERING IT! 425 00:15:39,254 --> 00:15:41,339 THE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY IS 426 00:15:41,341 --> 00:15:42,356 STEALING THE ELECTION! 427 00:15:42,391 --> 00:15:44,445 ALL RIGHT, THAT GUY NEEDS A 428 00:15:44,446 --> 00:15:45,913 CHILL PILL AND SOME SLEEVES 429 00:15:45,914 --> 00:15:47,381 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ONLY 430 00:15:47,415 --> 00:15:50,890 RESULTS HE LOOKS FIT TO DISPUTE 431 00:15:50,924 --> 00:15:53,079 ARE A WET T-SHIRT CONTEST. 432 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,265 IF YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE YOU 433 00:15:55,266 --> 00:15:56,388 WHILE YOU’RE INTERRUPTING A 434 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:57,780 PRESS CONFERENCE I HAVE TO 435 00:15:57,814 --> 00:15:58,663 BELIEVE YOU CAME TO INTERRUPT 436 00:15:58,664 --> 00:16:00,662 THE PRESS CONFERENCE NOT THAT IT 437 00:16:00,663 --> 00:16:02,610 WAS A SIDE ERRAND ON YOUR WAY TO 438 00:16:02,611 --> 00:16:03,884 PICK UP CHEWING TOBACCO. 439 00:16:03,885 --> 00:16:05,414 IT WASN’T ALL BAD AS A PROTEST 440 00:16:05,448 --> 00:16:06,415 IN 2020. 441 00:16:06,417 --> 00:16:08,171 THERE WAS THAT ONE SATURDAY WHEN 442 00:16:08,172 --> 00:16:10,255 TRUMP OFFICIALLY LOST, AND FOR 443 00:16:10,256 --> 00:16:11,649 ONCE THIS YEAR, WE SAW PROTESTS 444 00:16:11,683 --> 00:16:12,812 INSPIRED BY HAPPINESS. 445 00:16:12,846 --> 00:16:14,443 PEOPLE TOOK TO THE STREETS FOR 446 00:16:14,444 --> 00:16:15,745 SOMETHING GOOD, AND I WASN’T 447 00:16:15,747 --> 00:16:16,121 READY. 448 00:16:16,123 --> 00:16:18,462 I HAD A BRICK IN ONE HAND AND A 449 00:16:18,464 --> 00:16:20,081 MOLOTOV COCKTAIL IN THE OTHER. 450 00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:22,603 SO I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 451 00:16:22,604 --> 00:16:24,887 SO I JUST MADE A KISS. 452 00:16:24,889 --> 00:16:27,870 AND ONE GUY GOT SO EXCITED, HE 453 00:16:27,872 --> 00:16:30,318 EVEN CELEBRATED IN TWO 454 00:16:30,319 --> 00:16:31,387 LANGUAGES. 455 00:16:31,389 --> 00:16:36,317 AND I THINK FRANCE IS 456 00:16:36,351 --> 00:16:37,141 BEAUTIFUL! 457 00:16:37,175 --> 00:16:38,687 ESCAR GO? 458 00:16:38,722 --> 00:16:41,487 I LOVE A CROISSANT. 459 00:16:41,488 --> 00:16:43,261 WE’VE COME FULL CIRCLE 460 00:16:43,296 --> 00:16:45,209 BECAUSE THIS FEELS RACIST 461 00:16:45,244 --> 00:16:46,036 AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE. 462 00:16:46,070 --> 00:16:46,562 ALMOST. 463 00:16:46,563 --> 00:16:49,444 FRENCH PEOPLE ARE WAY MORE THAN 464 00:16:49,445 --> 00:16:52,017 JUST ESCAR GO AND CROISSANTS. 465 00:16:52,019 --> 00:16:53,693 THEY ALSO LOVE BAGUETTES. 466 00:16:53,694 --> 00:16:55,442 SO YEAH THIS DUDE WAS BEING 467 00:16:55,443 --> 00:16:57,705 MILDLY RACIST, BUT HE’S GOT A 468 00:16:57,739 --> 00:16:59,232 NICE TORSO AND HE’S HAPPY ABOUT 469 00:16:59,267 --> 00:17:00,042 BIDEN WINNING. 470 00:17:00,076 --> 00:17:02,979 SO IF YOU’LL EXCUSE ME, I’M 471 00:17:03,013 --> 00:17:07,107 GOING TO SHOW HIM MY ANGER WITH 472 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:10,725 A NAKED PROTEST OF MY OWN. 473 00:17:10,726 --> 00:17:12,702 Trevor: thank you so much, 474 00:17:12,703 --> 00:17:13,698 Dulce. 475 00:17:13,732 --> 00:17:16,577 GO GED YOU SOME, GIRL. 476 00:17:16,612 --> 00:17:18,461 WHEN WE COME BACK, RACHEL MADDOW 477 00:17:18,462 --> 00:17:20,747 IS JOINING ME ON THE SHOW AND 478 00:17:20,782 --> 00:17:22,349 WE’RE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS AND 479 00:17:22,384 --> 00:17:23,444 BRYAN CRANSTON IS JOINING ME ON 480 00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:27,595 DAILY SOCIAL DISTANCING SHOW." 481 00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:29,384 EARLIER TODAY, I SPOKE WITH EMMY 482 00:17:29,419 --> 00:17:30,715 AWARD-WINNING MSNBC HOST, RACHEL 483 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:31,190 MADDOW. 484 00:17:31,224 --> 00:17:34,513 WE TALKED ABOUT HER NEW BOOK ON 485 00:17:34,514 --> 00:17:36,613 A NIXON ADMINISTRATION SCANDAL 486 00:17:36,615 --> 00:17:38,345 THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HEARD 487 00:17:38,346 --> 00:17:38,563 ABOUT. 488 00:17:38,564 --> 00:17:39,870 CHECK IT OUT. 489 00:17:39,871 --> 00:17:41,076 RACHEL MADDOW, WELCOME TOED "THE 490 00:17:41,078 --> 00:17:42,444 DAILY SOCIAL DISTANCING SHOW." 491 00:17:42,478 --> 00:17:44,215 TREVOR, IT’S GREAT TO SEE 492 00:17:44,249 --> 00:17:44,409 YOU. 493 00:17:44,443 --> 00:17:45,539 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 494 00:17:45,574 --> 00:17:47,070 IT’S NICE TO JOIN YOU IN YOUR 495 00:17:47,072 --> 00:17:48,612 HIVE AND FRY HIVE. 496 00:17:48,613 --> 00:17:50,980 Trevor: this has been an 497 00:17:50,981 --> 00:17:52,164 an interesting experience for 498 00:17:52,165 --> 00:17:53,227 everybody in this world because 499 00:17:53,262 --> 00:17:55,345 we’re doing a thing we do in a 500 00:17:55,346 --> 00:17:56,531 way away don’t do it. 501 00:17:56,565 --> 00:17:58,394 TODAY WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 502 00:17:58,396 --> 00:18:01,291 YOUR BOOK, IF I TOLD PEOPLE 503 00:18:01,292 --> 00:18:04,773 RACHEL MADDOW IS ON WITH A BOOK 504 00:18:04,775 --> 00:18:06,181 ABOUT A CORRUPT PRESIDENT, IS 505 00:18:06,182 --> 00:18:08,372 EXTREMELY DIVISIVE AND USED HIS 506 00:18:08,374 --> 00:18:11,081 WHITE HOUSE FOR HIS OWN ENDS. 507 00:18:11,115 --> 00:18:12,301 PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE DONALD 508 00:18:12,303 --> 00:18:12,699 TRUMP. 509 00:18:12,734 --> 00:18:14,527 AND YOU WOULD BE LIKE, IT’S 510 00:18:14,528 --> 00:18:15,461 RICHARD NIXON. 511 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:16,673 NO, YOU’RE STILL WRONG. 512 00:18:16,675 --> 00:18:17,841 IT’S SPIRO AGNEW. 513 00:18:17,875 --> 00:18:20,016 LET ME ASK YOU THIS: IS IT GOOD 514 00:18:20,051 --> 00:18:21,329 OR BAD THAT AMERICA HAS SEEN 515 00:18:21,363 --> 00:18:22,196 SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS 516 00:18:22,197 --> 00:18:22,397 BEFORE? 517 00:18:22,431 --> 00:18:25,277 I THINK THERE IS A BIG PIECE 518 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:28,935 OF IT THAT CAN HELP, WHICH NOT 519 00:18:28,936 --> 00:18:30,393 THAT AGNEW WAS A CORRUPT, 520 00:18:30,427 --> 00:18:31,339 UNBELIEVABLY CORRUPT SORT OF 521 00:18:31,340 --> 00:18:32,319 MONSTER IN THE WHITE HOUSE, 522 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,977 LIKE, WE’VE SEEN THAT. 523 00:18:33,978 --> 00:18:35,947 WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 524 00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:37,816 THAT’S KIND OF DOG BITES MAN AT 525 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:38,468 THIS POINT. 526 00:18:38,469 --> 00:18:40,647 THE PART THAT NEEDS TO BE TOLD 527 00:18:40,682 --> 00:18:43,196 IS THE GOOD GUYS IN THE STORY. 528 00:18:43,231 --> 00:18:45,125 WE NEED TO TELL EACH OTHER 529 00:18:45,126 --> 00:18:46,748 HEROIC STORIES ABOUT PUBLIC 530 00:18:46,749 --> 00:18:48,067 SERVICE AND CITIZENSHIP AND 531 00:18:48,068 --> 00:18:49,235 CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY THAT MODEL 532 00:18:49,237 --> 00:18:49,825 GOOD BEHAVIOR. 533 00:18:49,826 --> 00:18:52,630 AND IN THIS CASE, THE 534 00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:54,256 PROSECUTORS AND THE REPUBLICAN 535 00:18:54,257 --> 00:18:55,775 NIXON-APPOINTED U.S. ATTORNEY 536 00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:56,704 AND THE REPUBLICAN 537 00:18:56,739 --> 00:18:58,959 NIXON-APPOINTED ATTORNEY GENERAL 538 00:18:58,994 --> 00:19:01,060 WERE ALL, LIKE, PARAGONS OF 539 00:19:01,061 --> 00:19:01,848 NONPARTISAN RESPONSIBILITY. 540 00:19:01,882 --> 00:19:03,630 AND THEY’RE THE REASON THAT 541 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:04,718 AGNEW NEVER BECAME PRESIDENT, 542 00:19:04,719 --> 00:19:06,476 WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A 543 00:19:06,477 --> 00:19:07,832 CATASTROPHE FOR THIS COUNTRY. 544 00:19:07,834 --> 00:19:09,280 IN THE ABSTRACT, AND ESPECIALLY 545 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,726 RIGHT IN THE WAKE OF WATERGATE, 546 00:19:10,728 --> 00:19:11,607 WHICH IS WHEN IT WOULD HAVE 547 00:19:11,642 --> 00:19:12,069 HAPPENED. 548 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:14,027 IT’S THE GOOD GUYS I FEEL LIKE, 549 00:19:14,028 --> 00:19:15,535 AH, THAT’S THE PART. 550 00:19:15,570 --> 00:19:17,395 THOSE ARE THE GUYS WHO NEED TO 551 00:19:17,396 --> 00:19:18,220 BE FAMOUS. 552 00:19:18,221 --> 00:19:19,653 THAT’S THE PART THAT COULD HELP 553 00:19:19,654 --> 00:19:20,296 US NOW. 554 00:19:20,297 --> 00:19:22,095 Trevor: one of the lessons 555 00:19:22,096 --> 00:19:23,571 I’m learning right now that is 556 00:19:23,572 --> 00:19:24,843 different, even reading your 557 00:19:24,844 --> 00:19:26,888 book, it feels in previous time 558 00:19:26,922 --> 00:19:28,591 the politics was more in the the 559 00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:29,315 political world. 560 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:30,829 EVEN WITH NIXON, IT DIDN’T FEEL 561 00:19:30,863 --> 00:19:32,973 IT WAS IN THE STREETS LIKE IT IS 562 00:19:32,974 --> 00:19:33,323 NOW. 563 00:19:33,324 --> 00:19:35,274 GRANTED, I WAS JUAN AROUND FOR 564 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:36,983 IT SO I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S HOW 565 00:19:37,017 --> 00:19:38,042 I’M READING IT. 566 00:19:38,076 --> 00:19:39,582 BUT THIS FEELS LIKE IT GOES DOWN 567 00:19:39,616 --> 00:19:40,247 TO THE GROUND. 568 00:19:40,248 --> 00:19:42,092 THE MAN ON THE STREET IS 569 00:19:42,093 --> 00:19:43,198 INVOLVED IN THIS LEVEL, IF THAT 570 00:19:43,232 --> 00:19:43,735 MAKES SENSE. 571 00:19:43,736 --> 00:19:45,097 IT IS NOT A POLITICAL THING, IT 572 00:19:45,099 --> 00:19:47,279 IS JUST A THING NOW. 573 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,508 AND I SOMETIMES WONDER, I GO, 574 00:19:49,509 --> 00:19:51,185 COYOU THINK WE’VE GOTTEN TO THE 575 00:19:51,187 --> 00:19:53,261 POINT NOW WHERE YOUR REALITY IS 576 00:19:53,262 --> 00:19:54,320 ONLY BASED ON YOUR POLITICAL 577 00:19:54,322 --> 00:19:54,522 AFFILIATION? 578 00:19:54,523 --> 00:19:55,465 AND THAT’S WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH 579 00:19:55,499 --> 00:19:56,251 IN AMERICA. 580 00:19:56,252 --> 00:19:57,555 YOU GUYS JUST HAVE TWO POLITICAL 581 00:19:57,589 --> 00:19:57,905 PARTIES. 582 00:19:57,906 --> 00:19:59,666 I’M NOT USED TO THAT. 583 00:19:59,668 --> 00:20:01,913 HERE YOU JUST HAVE IT’S BLUE OR 584 00:20:01,915 --> 00:20:03,016 IT’S RED. 585 00:20:03,051 --> 00:20:04,416 I’M LIKE WHAT ABOUT PURPLE? 586 00:20:04,418 --> 00:20:05,511 WHAT ABOUT GREEN. 587 00:20:05,546 --> 00:20:07,014 AND THEY’RE LIKE IT’S BLUE OR 588 00:20:07,049 --> 00:20:07,312 RED. 589 00:20:07,346 --> 00:20:08,801 YOU’RE ONE WHO THINKS ABOUT THIS 590 00:20:08,803 --> 00:20:10,654 AND YOU CONVEY STORIES AND 591 00:20:10,655 --> 00:20:11,683 PEOPLE RESPECT YOU. 592 00:20:11,717 --> 00:20:12,903 I WONDER IF YOU GRAPPLE WITH 593 00:20:12,938 --> 00:20:14,118 THAT PARADOX THAT AMERICA IS 594 00:20:14,153 --> 00:20:15,761 RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT’S THE UNITED 595 00:20:15,795 --> 00:20:17,336 STATES THAT IS NO LONGER UNITED 596 00:20:17,337 --> 00:20:18,121 BECAUSE IT’S LITERALLY SPLIT 597 00:20:18,122 --> 00:20:19,093 DOWNTOWN MIDDLE. 598 00:20:19,128 --> 00:20:21,820 YEAH, AND WHERE WE DON’T HAVE 599 00:20:21,855 --> 00:20:23,764 AN AGREED-UPON SET OF FACTS OR 600 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:23,958 WHERE-- 601 00:20:24,193 --> 00:20:25,820 Trevor: yes, definitely. 602 00:20:25,855 --> 00:20:27,491 ONE SIDE BELIEVES WHATEVER 603 00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,495 THE FACTS ARE, WE DON’T CARE. 604 00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:30,906 WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE FACTS. 605 00:20:30,907 --> 00:20:32,351 WE WOULD RATHER LOOK AT THINGS 606 00:20:32,385 --> 00:20:33,841 THROUGH OUR OWN LENS. 607 00:20:33,842 --> 00:20:35,578 THOSE ARE THE ONLY LESSONS WE 608 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:36,035 LISTEN TO. 609 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:37,974 THE THING ABOUT HISTORY IN THAT 610 00:20:38,008 --> 00:20:40,045 POINT, IN THE CASE OF AGNEW IN 611 00:20:40,046 --> 00:20:42,982 "BAG MAN," THERE’S THIS MOMENT 612 00:20:42,983 --> 00:20:45,071 WHERE AGNEW GOES TO A REPUBLICAN 613 00:20:45,105 --> 00:20:45,978 WOMEN’S CONFERENCE IN SOUTHERN 614 00:20:46,013 --> 00:20:47,577 CALIFORNIA, AND NIXON HAS TOLD 615 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:48,616 HIM TO RESIGN. 616 00:20:48,617 --> 00:20:50,137 AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS 617 00:20:50,139 --> 00:20:51,193 TOLD HIM YOU’RE GOING TO BE 618 00:20:51,228 --> 00:20:51,505 INDICTED. 619 00:20:51,539 --> 00:20:52,898 AND HE KNOWS HE IS ON HIS WAY 620 00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:53,471 OUT. 621 00:20:53,472 --> 00:20:55,719 AND HE GOES UP BEFORE THIS 622 00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:57,100 AUDIENCE OF KIND OF RABID 623 00:20:57,134 --> 00:20:59,575 REPUBLICAN WOMEN, AND HE SAYS, 624 00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:02,712 "I WILL NOT RESIGN IF INDICTED! 625 00:21:02,713 --> 00:21:04,584 I WILL NOT RESIGN IF INDICTED." 626 00:21:04,585 --> 00:21:06,219 AND HE STARTS SCREAMING ABOUT 627 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:07,749 THE TERRIBLE-- THE MEDIA AND HOW 628 00:21:07,784 --> 00:21:08,949 THE MEDIA CAN’T BE TRUSTED. 629 00:21:08,984 --> 00:21:10,330 AND THE WOMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, 630 00:21:10,331 --> 00:21:11,422 SOME OF THEM START SCREAMING AT 631 00:21:11,424 --> 00:21:12,082 THE REPORTERS. 632 00:21:12,083 --> 00:21:13,656 I DON’T THINK THEY CALLED THEM 633 00:21:13,657 --> 00:21:15,402 "THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE" BUT IT 634 00:21:15,404 --> 00:21:17,405 WAS THE EXACT SAME THING YOU GET 635 00:21:17,406 --> 00:21:18,566 WITH TRUMP TELLING HIS 636 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,426 SUPPORTERS TO SCREAM AT THE 637 00:21:19,427 --> 00:21:19,755 MEDIA. 638 00:21:19,756 --> 00:21:21,141 AND THIS IS 1973. 639 00:21:21,176 --> 00:21:23,016 SOME OF THOSE WOMEN AT THAT 640 00:21:23,017 --> 00:21:25,247 EVENT BROUGHT THEIR OWN TAPE 641 00:21:25,249 --> 00:21:27,464 RECORDERS TO THE EVENT SO THEY 642 00:21:27,465 --> 00:21:29,281 COULD RECORD AGNEW, BECAUSE THEY 643 00:21:29,282 --> 00:21:30,796 KNOW THE LAME-STREAM MEDIA WOULD 644 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:31,832 TAKE IT ALL OUT OF CONTEXT. 645 00:21:31,867 --> 00:21:33,325 Trevor: wow. 646 00:21:33,326 --> 00:21:36,103 SO THERE’S BEEN A THREAD OF 647 00:21:36,104 --> 00:21:37,335 THIS THROUGH AMERICAN POLITICS 648 00:21:37,336 --> 00:21:38,349 THAT ISN’T NEW. 649 00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:41,270 AND THAT PEOPLE I THINK WHO ARE 650 00:21:41,304 --> 00:21:42,728 THE MOST SORT OF DEMAGOGIC HAVE 651 00:21:42,730 --> 00:21:43,943 EXPLOITED FOR A LONG TIME. 652 00:21:43,977 --> 00:21:45,776 Trevor: your show is not 653 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:47,064 just the most successful it’s 654 00:21:47,098 --> 00:21:48,260 been, but it’s the most 655 00:21:48,261 --> 00:21:49,953 successful show eye don’t even 656 00:21:49,987 --> 00:21:50,804 know how it’s measured 657 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:51,189 sometimes. 658 00:21:51,224 --> 00:21:52,932 THEY GO, LIKE, WEEKLY FOR THESE 659 00:21:52,967 --> 00:21:53,878 PEOPLE-- LONG STORY SHORT, 660 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:55,476 RACHEL MADDOW IS NUMBER ONE. 661 00:21:55,477 --> 00:21:56,338 THAT’S ALL I KNOW. 662 00:21:56,372 --> 00:21:56,516 CONGRATULATIONS. 663 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:57,423 THANK YOU. 664 00:21:57,424 --> 00:21:58,935 Trevor: what I would 665 00:21:58,969 --> 00:22:00,137 thereof know from your 666 00:22:00,171 --> 00:22:02,787 perspective, as somebody who is 667 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,968 truly a giant in broadcasting is 668 00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:06,696 as Rachel Maddow, what do you 669 00:22:06,698 --> 00:22:08,837 think some of the tips and 670 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:10,389 tricks are that liberals don’t 671 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:12,040 have that conservatives do have 672 00:22:12,042 --> 00:22:13,658 that they use really well? 673 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:15,603 BECAUSE THERE’S NO DENYING THAT 674 00:22:15,604 --> 00:22:17,336 FOX NEWS ARE REALLY ENGAGING AND 675 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:18,727 REALLY GOOD AT CONVINCING PEOPLE 676 00:22:18,762 --> 00:22:20,507 OF THINGS. 677 00:22:20,541 --> 00:22:23,051 AND NOW, NEWSMACK AND O.A.N. ARE 678 00:22:23,085 --> 00:22:24,769 OUTFLANKING THEM ON THAT SIDE 679 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:26,611 AND GOING, "YOU GUYS ARE LIBERAL 680 00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:27,994 IN THAT WAY." 681 00:22:28,028 --> 00:22:29,847 NO, THEY’RE NOT LIBERAL. 682 00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:31,862 IS THIS SOMETHING THAT LIBERALS 683 00:22:31,896 --> 00:22:33,168 AND DEMOCRATS ARE MISSING IN 684 00:22:33,202 --> 00:22:34,263 AMERICA IN LEARNING HOW TO 685 00:22:34,264 --> 00:22:34,936 COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE AND 686 00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:36,072 CONVINCING THEM OF IDEAS? 687 00:22:36,106 --> 00:22:37,808 IT’S A REALLY, REALLY GOOD 688 00:22:37,809 --> 00:22:38,763 QUESTION, AND ONE THAT I HAVE 689 00:22:38,797 --> 00:22:40,038 THOUGHT ABOUT A LOT. 690 00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:42,307 I WAS ALSO PART OF THIS 691 00:22:42,341 --> 00:22:44,274 EXPERIMENT WHERE LIBERALS TRIED 692 00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:47,013 TO DO A.M. TALK RADIO WITH AIR 693 00:22:47,048 --> 00:22:48,918 AMERICA RADIO FOR A LONG TIME. 694 00:22:48,952 --> 00:22:50,377 AT THAT POINT, A.M. TALK RADIO 695 00:22:50,378 --> 00:22:52,834 WAS BASICALLY IN A FOREIGN 696 00:22:52,835 --> 00:22:54,612 LANGUAGE OR SPORTS OR CHURCH OR 697 00:22:54,613 --> 00:22:55,110 RUSH LIMBAUGH. 698 00:22:55,145 --> 00:22:56,327 THAT WAS IT. 699 00:22:56,362 --> 00:22:58,907 THE IDEA THAT YOU’D, LIKE, YOU 700 00:22:58,909 --> 00:23:00,950 KNOW, TUNE IN TO HEAR SOMEBODY 701 00:23:00,984 --> 00:23:02,492 WAX POETIC ABOUT THE VOTING 702 00:23:02,493 --> 00:23:04,110 RIGHTS ACT, AND IT DIDN’T WORK. 703 00:23:04,111 --> 00:23:05,590 WE TRIED, AND IT DIDN’T WORK. 704 00:23:05,624 --> 00:23:06,925 SO I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A 705 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,199 LOT. 706 00:23:07,201 --> 00:23:08,904 I DO THINK THAT THERE IS 707 00:23:08,939 --> 00:23:11,454 SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT 708 00:23:11,455 --> 00:23:13,038 MAGIC ABOUT THE RIGHT-WING 709 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:14,887 MEDIA, THAT THE LEFT-WING MEDIA 710 00:23:14,888 --> 00:23:16,111 WILL NEVER DO, AND I THINK 711 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:17,514 LIBERALS AND CENTRISTS WILL 712 00:23:17,548 --> 00:23:19,562 NEVER DO, WHICH IS THAT THEY 713 00:23:19,563 --> 00:23:21,408 TELL THEIR AUDIENCE, "YOU CAN 714 00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:22,561 TRUST NO ONE OTHER THAN ME. 715 00:23:22,562 --> 00:23:24,436 THERE ARE NO FACTS OTHER THAN 716 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:26,099 THOSE I AM GIVING TO YOU." 717 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,371 Trevor: ahh! 718 00:23:27,372 --> 00:23:29,665 YOU ACTUALLY SEE THAT RIGHT 719 00:23:29,666 --> 00:23:31,110 NOW WITH THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO 720 00:23:31,111 --> 00:23:32,642 DISCIPLINE FOX NEWS, SAYING FOX 721 00:23:32,643 --> 00:23:33,765 NEWS IS NOW GIVING YOU FAX NEWS, 722 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,325 TOO. 723 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,760 YOU HAVE TO GO TO THESE MORE 724 00:23:36,761 --> 00:23:38,333 PURE-- LIKE THAT WILLINGNESS TO 725 00:23:38,335 --> 00:23:40,526 HIVE OFF WHAT YOU’RE OFFERING 726 00:23:40,527 --> 00:23:41,946 FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, THAT’S-- I 727 00:23:41,948 --> 00:23:43,646 WILL NEVER DEVELOP THAT MUSCLE. 728 00:23:43,681 --> 00:23:45,253 YOU KNOW, MY SHOW WILL ALWAYS BE 729 00:23:45,287 --> 00:23:46,316 OF "THE WASHINGTON POST" JUST 730 00:23:46,317 --> 00:23:47,213 REPORTED THIS, AND THE 731 00:23:47,214 --> 00:23:48,428 ASSOCIATED PRESS JUST REPORTED 732 00:23:48,462 --> 00:23:49,476 THIS AND FOX NEWS JUST REPORTED 733 00:23:49,477 --> 00:23:49,711 THIS. 734 00:23:49,745 --> 00:23:50,825 Trevor: right, I trust 735 00:23:50,826 --> 00:23:51,581 other source other than myself. 736 00:23:51,582 --> 00:23:52,257 YES. 737 00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:53,721 I BELIEVE IN JOURNALISM. 738 00:23:53,722 --> 00:23:54,947 I BELIEVE IN THE FACT-BASED 739 00:23:54,948 --> 00:23:55,301 WORLD. 740 00:23:55,336 --> 00:23:56,754 SO, THEREFORE, I’LL NEVER TELL 741 00:23:56,756 --> 00:23:58,087 YOU TO SHUT IT OFF AND ONLY 742 00:23:58,088 --> 00:23:59,064 LISTEN TO ME. 743 00:23:59,098 --> 00:24:00,531 THE RIGHT HAS THE OPPOSITE VIEW 744 00:24:00,565 --> 00:24:01,440 OF THAT. 745 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:03,326 AND THAT EXPLAINS WHY THEY’VE 746 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,964 LOCKED UP SO MUCH OF THEIR OWN 747 00:24:04,966 --> 00:24:05,275 MARKET. 748 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:07,217 BUT I THINK IT ALSO EXPLAINS WHY 749 00:24:07,251 --> 00:24:08,201 THEY DON’T SPEAK TO THE WHOLE 750 00:24:08,235 --> 00:24:08,663 COUNTRY. 751 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,463 THEY ONLY SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHO 752 00:24:10,465 --> 00:24:12,201 THEY’VE ALREADY CONVINCED TO 753 00:24:12,236 --> 00:24:13,012 TURN OFF EVERYTHING ELSE. 754 00:24:13,046 --> 00:24:15,587 Trevor: if there was a way 755 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,641 to go, like, what are those 756 00:24:17,676 --> 00:24:19,225 shows called in America? 757 00:24:19,226 --> 00:24:20,422 "WIFE SWAP," "SPOUSE SWAP" TYPE 758 00:24:20,423 --> 00:24:21,347 OF THING. 759 00:24:21,349 --> 00:24:23,799 WOULD YOU EVER DO A WEEK ON FOX 760 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,112 AND TALK TO THEIR VIEWERS. 761 00:24:25,114 --> 00:24:26,694 DO YOU THINK YOU COULD EVER 762 00:24:26,729 --> 00:24:27,794 CONVINCE ANY OF THEIR VIEWERS OF 763 00:24:27,829 --> 00:24:29,746 A DIFFERENT REALITY? 764 00:24:29,747 --> 00:24:32,617 I-- TREVOR. 765 00:24:32,618 --> 00:24:35,477 ( LAUGHTER ) 766 00:24:35,478 --> 00:24:38,306 UHM, COULD I, LIKE, WEAR A LATEX 767 00:24:38,307 --> 00:24:39,321 FACE OF ANOTHER PERSON? 768 00:24:39,355 --> 00:24:40,135 Trevor: no! 769 00:24:40,169 --> 00:24:41,578 THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. 770 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:43,056 AS RACHEL MADDOW, DO YOU THINK 771 00:24:43,057 --> 00:24:44,888 YOU COULD TALK TO THEM AND SAY 772 00:24:44,922 --> 00:24:47,116 TO THEM, "HEY, I KNOW YOU DON’T 773 00:24:47,151 --> 00:24:48,536 LIKE ME, BUT LET ME LAY OUT MY 774 00:24:48,538 --> 00:24:48,848 CASE." 775 00:24:48,849 --> 00:24:50,207 DO YOU THINK YOU’D BE ABLE TO DO 776 00:24:50,208 --> 00:24:50,519 THAT. 777 00:24:50,553 --> 00:24:52,264 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE 778 00:24:52,298 --> 00:24:54,059 ME WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT I SORT 779 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:55,639 OF FEEL LIKE I DO THAT EVERY 780 00:24:55,674 --> 00:24:58,236 NIGHT IN WHAT I’M DOING ANYWAY. 781 00:24:58,237 --> 00:25:00,000 LIKE I DON’T ASSUME THAT MY 782 00:25:00,001 --> 00:25:01,614 AUDIENCE ALREADY THINKS ALL THE 783 00:25:01,648 --> 00:25:03,403 SAME THINGS THAT I DO OR THAT -- 784 00:25:03,437 --> 00:25:04,138 RIGHT, RIGHT. 785 00:25:04,173 --> 00:25:05,250 HAS THE SAME PERSPECTIVE ON 786 00:25:05,251 --> 00:25:05,670 IT. 787 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:08,216 I FEEL LIKE I’M ALWAYS TRYING TO 788 00:25:08,218 --> 00:25:09,383 CONVINCE PEOPLE WHO DON’T 789 00:25:09,384 --> 00:25:10,614 OTHERWISE COME FROM THE SAME 790 00:25:10,648 --> 00:25:11,636 PERSPECTIVE THAT I COME FROM, 791 00:25:11,637 --> 00:25:12,722 THAT WHAT I’M SAYING IS 792 00:25:12,723 --> 00:25:13,628 SOMETHING TO OFFER. 793 00:25:13,662 --> 00:25:15,454 LIKE, HERE ARE THE FACTS. 794 00:25:15,456 --> 00:25:16,953 HERE’S MY TAKE ON IT. 795 00:25:16,955 --> 00:25:18,596 HERE’S WHY I MIGHT BE WRONG. 796 00:25:18,597 --> 00:25:19,874 HERE’S AN EXPERT WHO CAN TELL ME 797 00:25:19,908 --> 00:25:20,851 IF I’M WRONG. 798 00:25:20,885 --> 00:25:22,816 YOU MAKE OF THIS WHAT YOU WILL. 799 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:24,087 I FEEL LIKE I’M APPROACHING THAT 800 00:25:24,121 --> 00:25:24,347 ANYWAY. 801 00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:25,604 THE REASON THIS IS HARD TO 802 00:25:25,605 --> 00:25:27,057 IMAGINE IS BECAUSE I’M JUST 803 00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:28,323 TRYING TO-- I’M JUST TRYING TO 804 00:25:28,357 --> 00:25:29,484 IMAGINE, LIKE THE MOMENT OF 805 00:25:29,485 --> 00:25:33,141 WALKING INTO THE FOX STUDIOS, 806 00:25:33,143 --> 00:25:36,556 AND THE FOX EXECUTIVES BEING 807 00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:38,284 LIKE DO-DO-DO-DO. 808 00:25:38,318 --> 00:25:41,029 IS THIS PERSON GOING TO SELL 809 00:25:41,063 --> 00:25:42,213 ERECTILE DISFUNCTION PILLS TO 810 00:25:42,214 --> 00:25:43,897 OUR AUDIENCE TONIGHT? 811 00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:45,679 THIS MIGHT NOT WORK, BUT MAYBE. 812 00:25:45,713 --> 00:25:46,080 ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE. 813 00:25:46,081 --> 00:25:47,553 Trevor: you never know. 814 00:25:47,554 --> 00:25:49,345 AND IF THERE’S ANYONE WHO CAN BE 815 00:25:49,346 --> 00:25:50,350 AS CONVINCING IN THE OPPOSITE 816 00:25:50,384 --> 00:25:53,164 WAY TO THE PEOPLE ON FOX, I 817 00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:54,787 THINK IT COULD BE RACHEL MADDOW. 818 00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:56,154 I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GET READY FOR 819 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:56,910 YOUR SHOW. 820 00:25:56,911 --> 00:25:59,356 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. 821 00:25:59,390 --> 00:26:00,717 THANK YOU FOR WRITING AN AMAZING 822 00:26:00,750 --> 00:26:01,086 BOOK. 823 00:26:01,121 --> 00:26:02,671 MOST OF HISTORY IS BORING TO 824 00:26:02,706 --> 00:26:04,192 READ UNLESS IT’S WRITTEN WELL. 825 00:26:04,226 --> 00:26:04,910 CONGRATULATIONS ON AN AMAZING 826 00:26:04,912 --> 00:26:05,317 STORY. 827 00:26:05,351 --> 00:26:06,676 I HOPE EVERYBODY GOES OUT AND 828 00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:07,296 GETS IT. 829 00:26:07,331 --> 00:26:08,729 AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN IN 830 00:26:08,731 --> 00:26:09,667 PERSON SOON. 831 00:26:09,668 --> 00:26:11,722 TREVOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 832 00:26:11,724 --> 00:26:12,678 YOU’RE GREAT, MY FRIEND. 833 00:26:12,679 --> 00:26:15,261 Trevor: Rachel Maddow, I 834 00:26:15,263 --> 00:26:15,721 appreciate you. 835 00:26:15,722 --> 00:26:18,114 THE BOOK "BAG MAN" IS AVAILABLE 836 00:26:18,115 --> 00:26:18,656 NOW. 837 00:26:18,657 --> 00:26:22,230 AND DON’T FORGET TO WATCH RACHEL 838 00:26:22,231 --> 00:26:23,766 MADDOW’S SHOW WEEK NIGHTS ON 839 00:26:23,767 --> 00:26:24,030 MSNBC. 840 00:26:24,064 --> 00:26:25,624 ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE COME BACK 841 00:26:25,659 --> 00:26:27,261 I’LL BE CHATTING WITH BRYAN 842 00:26:27,263 --> 00:26:29,058 CRANSTON, NOT JUST ABOUT HIS NEW 843 00:26:29,092 --> 00:26:31,137 SHOW BUT WHAT IT’S BEEN LIKE TO 844 00:26:31,138 --> 00:26:32,517 HAVE COVID-19 AND WHY HE CAN’T 845 00:26:32,551 --> 00:26:34,196 TASTE ANYTHING ANYMORE. YOU DON’T WANT TO MISS. 846 00:26:35,425 --> 00:26:37,193 Welcome back to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 847 00:26:37,227 --> 00:26:38,695 Earlier today, I spoke 848 00:26:38,728 --> 00:26:41,297 with award-winning actor Bryan Cranston. 849 00:26:41,331 --> 00:26:43,833 We talked about his new Showtime series, 850 00:26:43,867 --> 00:26:46,970 his bout with coronavirus and so much more. 851 00:26:47,003 --> 00:26:49,339 -Dad. -Alibis fall apart, Adam. 852 00:26:49,372 --> 00:26:51,374 I see it all the time. 853 00:26:51,407 --> 00:26:53,610 They almost never hold up. 854 00:26:53,643 --> 00:26:55,345 If you want to give yourself a fighting chance, 855 00:26:55,378 --> 00:26:57,046 it has to be very close to true. 856 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,549 Okay, but... 857 00:26:59,582 --> 00:27:01,584 being here, doing this... 858 00:27:01,618 --> 00:27:04,454 Look, from now, if you're ever asked where you were, 859 00:27:04,487 --> 00:27:07,490 what you were doing on October 9, 860 00:27:07,524 --> 00:27:10,326 you'll have the muscle memory of what you did. 861 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,130 You won't have to construct the lie, because you lived it. 862 00:27:14,164 --> 00:27:17,667 Bryan Cranston, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 863 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,171 (laughs) Thank you, Trevor. It's great to be on with you. 864 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:22,672 It is wonderful to have you on. 865 00:27:22,705 --> 00:27:24,741 I have always been a big fan of your dimples. 866 00:27:24,774 --> 00:27:26,676 As a fellow dimple-haver myself, 867 00:27:26,709 --> 00:27:29,212 I have followed your career avidly. 868 00:27:29,245 --> 00:27:31,047 I subscribe to Dimple Weekly, 869 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,916 and we are all proud of your achievements. 870 00:27:32,949 --> 00:27:35,485 Um, so, welcome. Welcome to the show. 871 00:27:35,518 --> 00:27:38,988 How have you been holding up, by the way? How are you? 872 00:27:39,022 --> 00:27:41,658 Well, isn't that an interesting question-- how are you? 873 00:27:41,691 --> 00:27:43,626 It used to be where you say, "How are you?" 874 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:46,463 "Fine, thank you. How are you?" "Very good." And you move on. 875 00:27:46,496 --> 00:27:50,700 -Yes. -Now, 2020, it's like, "Ooh, how am I?" 876 00:27:50,733 --> 00:27:52,302 How am I? 877 00:27:52,335 --> 00:27:55,038 It's kind of this existential question now. 878 00:27:55,071 --> 00:27:56,506 The answer is, good. 879 00:27:56,539 --> 00:27:59,309 I-I mean, you know, we're-we're adaptable beings. 880 00:27:59,342 --> 00:28:01,211 I'm-I'm saddened 881 00:28:01,244 --> 00:28:05,849 that we... we don't have any, uh, current leadership 882 00:28:05,882 --> 00:28:09,419 that is taking what we're dealing with seriously, 883 00:28:09,452 --> 00:28:13,456 and-and, you know, 3,000 people are passing away 884 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:15,859 at a... on a... on a... on a day now. 885 00:28:15,892 --> 00:28:18,228 And I think back in March, 886 00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:22,899 when I contracted COVID-19, and how lucky I was. 887 00:28:22,932 --> 00:28:27,804 My symptoms were very mild, and I had some aches and achiness, 888 00:28:27,837 --> 00:28:30,607 and a little dry cough and-and... 889 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,109 uh, and just absolute lethargy. 890 00:28:33,143 --> 00:28:35,779 -I couldn't sleep enough. -Right. 891 00:28:35,812 --> 00:28:38,314 It knocked me out that way. Yeah. 892 00:28:38,348 --> 00:28:42,218 And then, I lost my, uh, sense of taste and smell 893 00:28:42,252 --> 00:28:44,087 for months and months. 894 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,822 Well, are you being serious? 895 00:28:45,855 --> 00:28:47,390 Yeah. 896 00:28:47,423 --> 00:28:48,958 What is that experience like? 897 00:28:48,992 --> 00:28:52,629 Well, to this day, I don't have it back 100%. 898 00:28:52,662 --> 00:28:56,166 It's about 75%, maybe, something like that. 899 00:28:56,199 --> 00:28:59,302 If I walked into a kitchen and someone was brewing coffee, 900 00:28:59,335 --> 00:29:01,137 -I can't smell it. -Wow. 901 00:29:01,171 --> 00:29:04,007 So I have to open up the bag of beans, and I go, 902 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,442 "Oh, yeah, that's-that's coffee," 903 00:29:05,475 --> 00:29:07,410 -or stick my nose in it. -Oh, wow, man. 904 00:29:07,444 --> 00:29:08,912 Yeah. 905 00:29:08,945 --> 00:29:10,647 And do they... do they have an idea of when it comes...? 906 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,617 Or is it just, you just play it by ear, you see? 907 00:29:14,651 --> 00:29:16,920 Well, what's interesting, my wife was reading up on this, 908 00:29:16,953 --> 00:29:19,989 and she said, um, neurologists will tell you 909 00:29:20,023 --> 00:29:24,594 the way to retrain the senses is to do exactly what I do-- 910 00:29:24,627 --> 00:29:26,696 open up that bag of coffee beans. 911 00:29:26,729 --> 00:29:31,000 It reconnects the-the senses in-in your brain. 912 00:29:31,034 --> 00:29:34,037 Um, so anything-- pungent cheese. 913 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:36,005 Right, right, right. 914 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,542 You have to teach your brain to smell again and taste again. 915 00:29:39,576 --> 00:29:41,544 -Yeah. -Wow. Okay. 916 00:29:41,578 --> 00:29:43,179 Well, I'm glad it's you and not me. 917 00:29:43,213 --> 00:29:45,115 And I'm glad that you are healthier now. 918 00:29:45,148 --> 00:29:46,749 I-I do not wish that experience. 919 00:29:46,783 --> 00:29:48,585 I love the taste of things too much. 920 00:29:48,618 --> 00:29:51,621 And I like knowing who smelled it 'cause I know who dealt it. 921 00:29:51,654 --> 00:29:53,556 I mean, these are important things in life. 922 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:56,993 Um, I would love to talk about your brand-new show. 923 00:29:57,026 --> 00:29:58,928 You're playing a judge in a very sticky situation. 924 00:29:58,962 --> 00:30:01,898 A judge who has a son who's involved in a hit-and-run, 925 00:30:01,931 --> 00:30:04,000 and then he has to make the very tough decision 926 00:30:04,033 --> 00:30:08,938 between following the law and following his family. 927 00:30:08,972 --> 00:30:13,009 As tough as that decision is for any parent, 928 00:30:13,042 --> 00:30:16,546 um, my character, Michael, does the right thing 929 00:30:16,579 --> 00:30:20,283 and says to his son, "You need to turn yourself in, 930 00:30:20,316 --> 00:30:23,086 "uh, and-and be responsible 931 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,588 and accountable for-for your actions." 932 00:30:25,622 --> 00:30:27,557 And I convince him to do the right thing. 933 00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:29,125 We go to the police station. 934 00:30:29,159 --> 00:30:33,596 I'm about to turn him in, When I notice a grieving couple 935 00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:35,999 who are the parents of the boy 936 00:30:36,032 --> 00:30:38,234 that was killed in this car accident 937 00:30:38,268 --> 00:30:40,170 -earlier in the day. -Right. 938 00:30:40,203 --> 00:30:42,505 I don't know who she is, but I know him, 939 00:30:42,539 --> 00:30:46,776 and he is a vicious, violent criminal. 940 00:30:46,810 --> 00:30:49,546 And I know beyond a shadow of a doubt 941 00:30:49,579 --> 00:30:51,247 that if I continued on 942 00:30:51,281 --> 00:30:53,616 and turned my son in to the police department, 943 00:30:53,650 --> 00:30:56,152 and, thereby, into the judicial system, 944 00:30:56,186 --> 00:30:59,622 he would get to him somehow, and he would kill my son. 945 00:30:59,656 --> 00:31:03,226 So, all of a sudden, animal instincts take over. 946 00:31:03,259 --> 00:31:05,562 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -And it's like, that's it. 947 00:31:05,595 --> 00:31:09,599 We're leaving. I-I'm making this impulsive decision. 948 00:31:09,632 --> 00:31:12,035 Uh, and away it goes. 949 00:31:12,068 --> 00:31:14,170 I feel like you have this amazing ability 950 00:31:14,204 --> 00:31:17,974 to play characters where you-you're a good person 951 00:31:18,007 --> 00:31:19,776 who is not doing the right thing, 952 00:31:19,809 --> 00:31:21,744 but we want you to not do the right thing 953 00:31:21,778 --> 00:31:24,848 because we-we... we're in touch with the humanity 954 00:31:24,881 --> 00:31:27,484 of the person that we... we are... we are watching. 955 00:31:27,517 --> 00:31:29,519 When you're playing these characters, like, how...? 956 00:31:29,552 --> 00:31:31,387 I really want to know how you get into doing that. 957 00:31:31,421 --> 00:31:33,456 How do you... how do you learn to love them 958 00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:35,391 so that we can love them and their flaws 959 00:31:35,425 --> 00:31:36,960 and then start supporting them committing crimes? 960 00:31:36,993 --> 00:31:38,928 'Cause you-you let... you make us support people 961 00:31:38,962 --> 00:31:40,330 who commit crimes. That's what you do. 962 00:31:40,363 --> 00:31:43,700 I... That's what I do. That's my stock-in-trade. 963 00:31:43,733 --> 00:31:45,201 Um, yeah, it's true. 964 00:31:45,235 --> 00:31:48,204 You know, I learned early on, uh, 965 00:31:48,238 --> 00:31:50,907 that when... when a... you're going through maturation, 966 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:52,942 -and you're in middle school or high school... -Mm-hmm. 967 00:31:52,976 --> 00:31:56,279 and someone does something embarrassing or humiliating, 968 00:31:56,312 --> 00:31:57,881 you laugh at them. That was... 969 00:31:57,914 --> 00:32:00,283 Because you-you're glad it wasn't you. 970 00:32:00,316 --> 00:32:02,819 But beyond that, when you mature, 971 00:32:02,852 --> 00:32:07,223 human beings are really lovely at heart. 972 00:32:07,257 --> 00:32:09,559 The foundational sense of a human being. 973 00:32:09,592 --> 00:32:13,696 If they see someone humiliated or embarrassed or vulnerable, 974 00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:15,532 they don't want to laugh at them. 975 00:32:15,565 --> 00:32:17,100 They want to wrap their arms around them. 976 00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:18,768 They want to protect them. 977 00:32:18,802 --> 00:32:23,173 And so that's the beauty of-of portraying someone like this, 978 00:32:23,206 --> 00:32:25,775 or Walter White, or someone who is trying 979 00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:28,578 to do the right thing, but is flawed. 980 00:32:28,611 --> 00:32:32,282 So an audience, knowing that they are imperfect themselves... 981 00:32:32,315 --> 00:32:35,485 -Mm-hmm. ...casts that upon the character, saying, 982 00:32:35,518 --> 00:32:37,720 "My God, I don't think I would have done anything differently. 983 00:32:37,754 --> 00:32:40,423 -I would have done something like that." -Right. 984 00:32:40,457 --> 00:32:42,792 So they instantly relate to you. 985 00:32:42,826 --> 00:32:45,095 And then... I hope that they do. 986 00:32:45,128 --> 00:32:47,130 I take them by the hand, and I say, 987 00:32:47,163 --> 00:32:48,231 "Let me take you for a ride. 988 00:32:48,264 --> 00:32:50,433 Come on. I'll tell you a story." 989 00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:52,602 And you go and you take them on a journey 990 00:32:52,635 --> 00:32:55,572 that sometimes they want to shake loose of, 991 00:32:55,605 --> 00:32:58,274 but they cannot... 992 00:32:58,308 --> 00:33:01,244 They're compelled to continue on that journey. 993 00:33:01,277 --> 00:33:04,581 My-my only criticism of the show, if I may, 994 00:33:04,614 --> 00:33:06,883 is that it's a miniseries. 995 00:33:06,916 --> 00:33:09,185 We're in a pandemic, Bryan Cranston. 996 00:33:09,219 --> 00:33:12,055 Why would you not make a full, long show? 997 00:33:12,088 --> 00:33:13,890 Why do you do this to us, Bryan Cranston? 998 00:33:13,923 --> 00:33:15,325 We're your fans. Why would you do that? 999 00:33:15,358 --> 00:33:17,327 I do it to help you, Trevor. 1000 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,730 I don't want you to-to have that instant gratification 1001 00:33:20,764 --> 00:33:22,398 seeped into your soul. 1002 00:33:22,432 --> 00:33:25,635 I want you to develop a sense of restraint 1003 00:33:25,668 --> 00:33:29,105 and an appreciation for things that take time. 1004 00:33:29,139 --> 00:33:31,908 Look, would you drink a cheap bottle of wine 1005 00:33:31,941 --> 00:33:34,177 that was made last week? No. 1006 00:33:34,210 --> 00:33:35,678 You would wait. Let it wait. 1007 00:33:35,712 --> 00:33:37,347 Turn it. Let it mature. 1008 00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:39,082 And then open that bottle. 1009 00:33:39,115 --> 00:33:41,251 In the pandemic, I will finish that... 1010 00:33:41,284 --> 00:33:42,752 I have finished that bottle, Bryan Cranston. 1011 00:33:42,786 --> 00:33:45,488 I will not wait for anything during the pandemic. 1012 00:33:45,522 --> 00:33:48,124 It's 2020. Needless to say, I think it's a fantastic show. 1013 00:33:48,158 --> 00:33:49,559 You've done an amazing job again. 1014 00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:51,094 Thank you so much for joining me on the show. 1015 00:33:51,127 --> 00:33:52,429 Trevor, appreciate it. 1016 00:33:52,462 --> 00:33:54,664 Hopefully next time, we can do it in person. 1017 00:33:54,697 --> 00:33:56,332 Always, my friend, always. I'll see you around. 1018 00:33:56,366 --> 00:33:58,635 -Be well. -Thank you. Bye. 1019 00:33:58,668 --> 00:34:00,870 Don't forget, Your Honor airs Sundays 1020 00:34:00,904 --> 00:34:03,173 at 10:00 p.m. on Showtime. 1021 00:34:03,206 --> 00:34:04,841 All right, we're gonna take a quick break. 1022 00:34:04,874 --> 00:34:04,941 But we'll be right back after this. 1023 00:34:07,843 --> 00:34:09,444 Well, that's our show for tonight, but before we go, 1024 00:34:09,478 --> 00:34:12,281 I wanted to remind you again to please 1025 00:34:12,314 --> 00:34:15,050 support your local restaurants if you can. 1026 00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:17,419 I know not everybody can afford to, but if you can, 1027 00:34:17,452 --> 00:34:20,622 order some food in because these restaurants are struggling 1028 00:34:20,656 --> 00:34:23,192 to stay open during the pandemic and all their employees 1029 00:34:23,225 --> 00:34:25,527 are gonna be suffering and the restaurant won't be open 1030 00:34:25,561 --> 00:34:27,462 for you when the pandemic is over. 1031 00:34:27,496 --> 00:34:29,731 If you want to help beyond just getting the food, 1032 00:34:29,765 --> 00:34:32,734 then please consider a donation to the James Beard foundation's 1033 00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:35,904 Open for Good campaign, which helps independent restaurants 1034 00:34:35,938 --> 00:34:38,106 survive this pandemic. 1035 00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:40,676 Until next time, stay safe out there, 1036 00:34:40,709 --> 00:34:42,578 wear a mask and remember, 1037 00:34:42,611 --> 00:34:45,581 if you find gold coins in your garden, 1038 00:34:45,614 --> 00:34:48,317 do the right thing-- bury them again, 1039 00:34:48,350 --> 00:34:51,787 water them, then you wait for that money tree to grow, baby! 1040 00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:54,590 (laughs) Wait, that's not how it...? 1041 00:34:54,623 --> 00:34:56,592 Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 1042 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,260 What do you mean that's not how it works? 1043 00:34:58,293 --> 00:35:00,362 ? ? 1044 00:35:07,169 --> 00:35:09,972 Is it true as I was told by our producers that you, in fact, 1045 00:35:10,005 --> 00:35:12,207 have a Red Sox mask that you wore 1046 00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:14,676 -to this live shot this morning? -Y-Y-Yes, I do. 1047 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:16,612 -And here it is, see if you can get it. -Um, that is 1048 00:35:16,645 --> 00:35:18,447 a fantastic mask, Senator Hassan. 1049 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,149 -It is. -I appreciate your fashion choices. 1050 00:35:21,183 --> 00:35:23,318 And I appreciate you being with us this morning. 1051 00:35:23,352 --> 00:35:25,087 Thank you very much. Go Sox. 1052 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,723 Yeah, absolutely. Got to get a pitcher. 1053 00:35:27,756 --> 00:35:27,823 All right.