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on how to make your marriage work. You're gonna love it.
It's trending online. It's a really insightful book.
And we're gonna figure out why Marjorie Taylor Greene
and half of the GOP can't seem to remember
what happened on January 6th.
So, let's do this, people.
Let's jump straight into today's headlines.
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All right, let's begin with the latest twist
in the "will they-won't they" story
that everyone is talking about-- Elon Musk and Twitter.
It's the hottest and messiest relationship drama
this side of Riverdale, and it looks like
after weeks of flirtation and fighting,
the new couple has officially done the deed.
NEWSWOMAN: Now it is official.
Elon Musk has bought Twitter for approximately $44 billion.
He's going to be paying each share of Twitter $54.20.
In a statement released by the company, Mr. Musk said,
"Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy,
"and Twitter is the digital town square
where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated."
NEWSWOMAN 2: This is a dramatic turn of events
from earlier this month when Twitter was set
to decline Musk's offer,
adopting a so-called "poison pill" to block him.
That's right, people.
Twitter said it would never sell to Elon Musk,
and then he produced the cash, and they're like,
-"All right, we'll sell." -(laughter)
Yes, I guess they found that edit button after all.
It's actually kind of an historic moment.
This is the first time
anyone at Twitter has changed their mind about anything.
Well done.
I feel like Twitter was always going to sell to Elon, though.
Right? They just couldn't be too eager about it.
You know, it's like a husband and wife, where it's like,
"Uh-uh. I am not going to that wedding!
Forget it! It's not going to happen!"
And then three months later, it's like,
"How does my bowtie look? How does it...?
Does think it looks good? Do you think it does?"
I honestly don't know why Elon would want to own Twitter.
All right? It just doesn't seem like a fun place
to supervise right now.
You know, it's like buying Jurassic Park
after the power went down and the cages are opened.
Yeah, you're gonna spend a lot of time
replacing Jeep windshields. That's all I'm saying.
But the truth is, look, in many ways,
this is a really smart move by Elon Musk
because wealthy men know the value
in owning publishing platforms.
Yeah, it's why Jeff Bezos bought The Washington Post.
It's why Rupert Murdoch bought The Wall Street Journal.
It's why Confucius owns those fortune cookies. Yeah. Yeah.
Because, you see, then he knows
that none of us will play his lucky numbers in the Lotto.
That is genius.
So, you see, by buying Twitter,
Elon Musk gets to own one of the most culturally-influential
publishing platforms in the world.
I mean, remember this. Think about it.
Twitter is how the Arab Spring took off, right?
Black Lives matter blew up on Twitter.
The #MeToo movement started on Twitter.
Trump used Twitter to turn himself
from a reality show joke
into the 45th president of the United States and a joke.
(laughter)
So owning Twitter gives you more power
than the drugstore employee
with the key to the deodorant shelf, yeah.
Yeah, you want to smell fresh, you best not piss off Curtis.
Don't play around. He will shut you down.
You'll walk around smelling musky.
So here's the thing.
Look, whether you are for Elon Musk or against him,
you've got to admit it is pretty crazy
that one man is now in control of all of that.
Because before this, Jack Dorsey didn't own Twitter.
Right? A lot of people think he did.
No, he had two percent of the shares, and even as CEO,
he still had to answer to the board,
and the board still had to answer to the shareholders,
and Twitter itself still had to answer to the SEC.
But now, as a private company, it's just Elon Musk.
Yeah. Everything that happens on Twitter from now on
is up to him.
And also whatever strain his weed guy gives him that day.
I'm just saying. He gets the wrong sativa,
there could be a race war, people. Prepare yourselves.
Like, this is the thing:
W-Whether it's a billionaire you like or a billionaire you hate,
as a society, I think we should spend more time interrogating
how easy it is for billionaires to shape our world
in their favor. Just think about it.
You like it now, you don't like it now,
but should they be able to do it? I don't know.
But let's move on from Twitter to a real battlefield:
The invasion of Ukraine.
Since before the invasion began, the United States has
tried to put pressure on Russia using economic sanctions, which
is basically taking away your allowance, but for countries.
And the U.S. government has cast a wide net.
It's gone after Russian officials, oligarchs, companies,
banks and, of course, Vladimir Putin himself.
But it turns out there's one high-profile Russian who has
somehow avoided becoming a target.
A new report explains why the U.S. has so far refused
to sanction Vladimir Putin's girlfriend--
and the mother, allegedly, of three of his children.
NEWSMAN: The U.S. Government has considered but then pulled back
on sanctioning a woman long rumored to Putin's girlfriend,
the Russian gymnast Alina Kabaeva.
This is something that, uh, was deemed so sensitive
that they decided to hold off, because they believe that
Putin's, uh, response could be
so irrational, so angry, um,
that there would be some sort of backlash.
Whoa, this is interesting.
No, the U.S. government has sanctioned everyone
except Putin's girlfriend?
I guess they watched the Oscars and were like,
"Ooh, maybe we should stay away from spouses.
We'll just, uh, we'll play it safe."
And-and before we get into the sanctions or not sanctions,
am I the only person who's shocked that Vladimir Putin
has a girlfriend? Am I the only one?
Like, if there's any man out there who has some red flags,
girl, let me tell about Vlad.
Yeah, I know some people like a bad boy, but this is next-level.
Like, there's "bad" and then there's genocide, okay?
Also, Putin must be relieved that the U.S. is not sanctioning
his girlfriend, because let's be honest,
sanctions take a relationship to a whole new level.
You know? It puts a lot of pressure on the relationship.
Yeah, I always tell my friends, sanctions in a relationship--
whoa. Oh, yeah. It's a lot of pressure. Mm-mmm. Yeah.
Yeah, I-I'm sure Putin was relieved, you know?
He can't have America being more serious about his relationship
than he is. Can you imagine how pissed
his girlfriend would be? It's just like,
(Russian accent): "Vladi, how come America
"treat me like your wife, but you still will not let me keep
"toothbrush at Kremlin, huh?
(speaks Russian)"
(regular accent): And finally, let's move on
to some entertainment news.
You probably know Netflix as the service with great shows
that get cancelled just when you become a fan, and also the home
of the saddest episodes of Arrested Development ever.
But right now, some of Netflix's biggest hits are actually
imports from other countries. And one of the hottest series
on Netflix right now is a reality show that is
beloved in Japan, but has Americans a lot more divided.
NEWSMAN: Japanese game shows have never been known
for their subtlety, but one new offering on Netflix
has jaws dropping.
Old Enough is an unscripted series, parents sending
their two to five-year-old children to run errands,
from grocery shopping to dropping off dry cleaning
or squeezing fresh juice.
Netflix calling Old Enough
"The most wholesome show you've ever seen."
But the Internet isn't convinced.
And while the concept might seem bizarre to Western
audiences, the show has been running for 30 seasons in Japan.
NEWSMAN 2: Japan is very different than the U.S.
Neighborhoods are more pedestrian-friendly,
and the culture is more trusting of kids.
In Japan, parents chaperone their ten and 11-year-olds
on just 15% of trips
compared with 65% here.
Some parenting experts think American audiences
can learn from the show.
It's a little nerve-racking to let your kids go,
but when you do, they will just impress you.
Or they'll disappoint you.
(laughter)
There should always be an "or."
But yeah, one of Netflix's most popular shows
and easily one of my favorites is Old Enough!,
which is all about kids doing things for themselves.
And let's be honest. I mean, that's the best kind of kid.
You know? It's like having a self-cleaning oven,
but it's a child.
And I agree. I absolutely agree
that kids should have more freedom than they do.
This American obsession with protecting kids
can actually mess with their heads.
Like, think about it. Parents in America
will leash their kids
but then let their dogs run around free.
Your kid should never look at your pets
and be like, "That lucky bastard."
(laughter)
I don't care what anyone says, man.
American parents are overbearing.
You won't let your kids walk down the street by themselves,
but then inside the house, they just hand them an iPad
and ignore them the whole day, huh?
Just be like, "Mommy, will you read to me?"
"No, no, no, no. Shh! Not now.
"I'm tweeting about how bad these Japanese parents are.
"Go on, here, take the iPad. Go on YouTube
and learn about who really did 9/11. Go on. Go on."
I don't get the anxiety people feel watching the show.
Yes, these kids are running errands.
Yes. But, guys, there's a whole camera crew nearby.
They're like, "They're by themselves."
No, there's a camera crew.
If something was about to happen that was bad,
they'd step in.
You know? It's not like a nature documentary
where they have to stand by and let the tiger
kill the gazelle.
"And now the windowless van approaches
"and absconds with little Mikey
"as the sun sets on Main Street.
The circle of life is complete." (chuckles)
All right, that's it for the headlines.
(cheering and applause)
But before we go to a break,
let's check in on the stock market
with our very own finance expert,
Michael Kosta, everybody!
(cheering and applause)
Things are looking crazy, Michael,
-Yeah. -What is happening with the market today?
Well, I am absolutely crushing the market, okay?
And I... And-and I got a hot tip for you,
and I got a hot tip for you, so let's get into it.
-Okay. -But actually, actually, before do I that,
-the Japanese game show. -Yeah.
-I mean, that's unreal. -Right?
You know? I mean, I know American adult children
who can't execute those tasks, you know what I mean?
I mean, but-but, parents, you got to be careful
sending your kids out to do errands.
I mean, I remember when I was a kid,
my dad asked my 25-year-old sister
to go get the family orange juice.
She drove to Mexico and joined a cult.
You know what I mean?
Which reminds me, Christie, if you're watching this,
uh...
we still need orange juice back at the house, so...
Look, I'm...
(applause)
Okay.
Trevor, I'm-I'm so thankful this show takes place in Japan.
-Yeah. -You know? Imagine a place like South Africa
where the kids would have to watch out
for all the giraffe in the street or, uh...
No. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Kosta, Kosta, no.
We have giraffes, but we don't have them in the street.
Because you don't have streets.
Dude, don't be ashamed. You're doing good.
-I'm not ashamed. That's not... -Dude. Dude. You're doing good,
-dude. You're doing good. -You know... (scoffs) This guy.
Look, maybe the reason I'm not impressed
with these Japanese kids is that as a kid myself,
I spent a lot of alone time, so...
Look, look, my dad, he used to take me camping,
and-and as I was setting up the campsite,
he would... he would drive off,
and he'd say, "I'll be back in a few minutes."
And, you know, it would be a couple days, usually.
And sometimes, I'd up there on the mountain,
and it would start to get cold,
and I wouldn't have a lot of drinking water,
so I would... I would warm the snow with my hands.
And then eventually, I would... I would pack up the stuff,
and I would start the long trek home,
you know, through the winding, unforgiving mountains.
And eventually I would bust through the door of home,
and my mom, she'd be so happy to see me.
She'd be crying, and she'd be embracing me.
And my dad, he'd be so surprised,
he'd be screaming, you know?
Anyways, I loved camping.
And then... And then the next time he would take me,
we would drive even further away from the house.
But-but I remember, as I would...
as I would trek through the mountains
and-and hunt antelope with my bare hands,
the-the one thought
that would get me through all this, Trevor,
was-was my mom's warm embrace
and her sweet smile.
-I-I think... -AUDIENCE: Aw.
So, you want to get to the markets real quick, or, um...?
-The markets are bad, Trevor. -Yeah. Yeah.
The markets are bad, okay?
Red is bad, red is bad, red is bad.
-All right? Now... -O-Okay.
-Okay. -...these lines, you got to ignore these, unfortunately.
Uh, my apologies.
I uploaded all my computer data into my financial app.
These are really just personal stuff
that measures on my computer.
This, this is my salary once I passed it through inflation.
Uh... the green line are all my Twitter followers
once I talk about race relations in the United States.
Uh, the green are my effectiveness of erections
as I grow older. It's...
it's an odd thing to measure, but I did agree
to Apple's terms and conditions.
So, look, look,
here's my hot tip. Here's my hot tip.
Bonds. Okay?
As this is showing red, invest in bonds.
Michael Kosta, financial expert, believes in bonds.
-Wow. -Especially the bond
between a mother and her son.
Because as I'm gnawing on a coyote carcass,
it's the only vision
that gets me home safe.
And, also, when I lose my money in the stock market,
it's that bond I can rely on for a couple extra bucks, so...
-(cheering and applause) -Thanks, Trevor.
I, uh...
I think you were abandoned.
Michael, um, thank you so much for that.
All right, when we come back, we'll figure out
why nobody can remember what happened on January 6.
-You don't want to miss it. -I love you, Mom!
-Love you, Mom! -(speaking indistinctly)
(cheering and applause)
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
A little over a year ago,
thousands of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building
in an attempt to stop the election from being certified.
And they wanted to declare Donald Trump
super president forever, no backsies.
Now what was surprising is that, by and large,
the Republican Party has decided not
to hold any of that against Donald Trump.
And I mean, let's be honest.
How can you stay mad at this face?
How could you stay mad at this face?
(muttering gibberish)
But the Capitol riot wasn't even the scariest thing
that happened on January 6th because you see, my friends,
we're now finding out
that something else happened that day.
Countless Republicans seem
to have had their memories erased.
I know it sounds crazy, but... but okay.
Look at what happened to Kevin McCarthy,
the leader of the House Republicans and guy
who has definitely called rap music "the hippity hop."
(laughter)
He's he one of Trump's firmest supporters.
Never wavered in public, even after January 6th.
So when The New York Times reported
that McCarthy had privately told colleagues
that he thought Trump should resign, he denied it fiercely,
he had no memory of saying anything like that.
And then, the tapes dropped.
"It is my recommendation that he should resign."
But, yet, McCarthy's memory
of that call was completely wiped.
Yeah, on January 10, he was all,
"I've had it with this guy." And then two weeks later,
he was chilling at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah.
Dude quit Trump the way most of us quit Twitter.
He's like, "I'm deleting this app!
"Mah. Actually, I'm not going to delete it,
"but I won't check it again... until right now,
"Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.
"Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.
Did you miss me?"
And by the way, a lot of people were wondering
if getting caught on tape slamming Donald Trump
would be the end of Kevin McCarthy's political career.
I mean, this is Trump's party.
You know, if Trump comes out against him,
that's it, it's over.
All it takes is one "Crying Kevin betrayed me,"
and it's done.
But instead, Trump came out and said,
he and McCarthy are fine. In fact, he said...
Yeah, you see, Trump loves this stuff.
In fact, if you used to be against him, and now you're not,
he likes those people more
than someone who loved him the whole time because it shows
that he made you bend the knee, yeah.
The dude loves converting people
-more than Scientologists and vegans combined. -(laughter)
Let me tell you something now.
If Hillary Clinton herself came out right now as pro-Trump,
I don't care what anyone says.
Let me tell you right now.
She would be his new favorite person. He'd be like,
"Do we love Crooked Hillary, folks?
"Do we love her? Let her out.
Let her out. Let her out."
-(applause and cheering) -"So good. So good.
"I love her. I love her.
"She was so cheeky.
Used to be cheeky."
So, yeah, Kevin McCarthy completely forgot
what he said on and around January 6th,
but it's not just him.
Take Rick Perry, Trump's Energy Secretary.
A few months ago, CNN reported
that Perry was the author of a text message
laying out a plan for overturning the election.
And perry said, "Absolutely not, It never happened."
But then today, CNN got hold of the complete message,
-and it's actually signed "Rick Perry." -(laughter)
Yeah. I don't know what's worse.
The fact that he was part of an insurrection,
or the fact that he signed his text message.
That's such an old person thing to do.
It's worse than when my grandfather brought a bigger TV
because he thought it would fit more channels in it.
So, look, obviously something happened to Rick's memory, too.
But as worried as I am for those guys, people,
I am really concerned about Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Congresswoman from Georgia and soccer mom
whose definitely slashed the other team's bus tires.
You see, a few of MTG's constituents
have filed a lawsuit to disqualify her from Congress
based on her role in January 6th.
Yeah, apparently, there's something in the Constitution
that says you cannot run for office
if you do an insurrection against the government. Yeah.
You know how people had crazy ideas back then. Yeah.
And now, look, we all know it's probably not gonna work,
but Marjorie Taylor Greene was still forced to testify
at a hearing on Friday, and it looks like
nobody has been hit harder by January 6th amnesia than her.
MAN: You didn't talk to anybody in government
about the fact that there were going to be large protests
-in Washington on January 6th? -I don't remember.
You spoke to Representative Biggs or his staff
-about that fact, didn't you? -I do not remember.
How about Representative Gosar?
I'm sorry. I don't remember.
CELLI: Did anyone ever mention to you the possibility
that there might be violence in Washington?
I don't remember.
CELLI: Ms. Greene, this is a tweet
that you sent out, uh,
on January 2, 2021, correct?
I'm not sure.
CELLI: Okay. You don't recall this?
I-I don't recall tweeting that, no.
CELLI: Did you advocate to President Trump
to impose martial law as a way to remain in power?
I don't recall.
You don't recall if you wanted to impose martial law?!
You don't... Wow.
I wish I had Marjorie Taylor Greene's memory.
Yeah, I once said, "Enjoy your dinner"
to a waiter in 2003,
and I still think about it every day.
Every day.
(applause)
"Enjoy your dinner." "You enjoy your dinner."
Kill me!
Meanwhile, she can't even remember
if she told the president to impose martial law.
Yo. Yo, yo, let me tell you something.
That should be an easy one for most people.
If you ever ask the president to impose martial law,
you would never forget something that specific.
Like, if anyone can't say no
to doing something that specific and weird,
you definitely did that shit.
(laughter)
"Um, I, uh...
"Uh, have I ever tried to steal a horse
"and, uh, ride it inside a bouncy castle?
"Um...
"Your Honor, I do not recall.
"Um...
"But you got to admit,
"that sounds like something
"a pretty cool guy would do, right?
"Right, members of the jury?
Right? Yeah." (chuckles)
"But if it's not cool, then I do not recall. Yeah.
I don't remember."
So...
Marjorie Taylor Greene spent the entire hearing
denying that she had any memory
of anything to do with January 6th.
But it turns out, my friends,
that there may be a cure to this amnesia,
because one thing that can bring it back,
even if just for a little bit,
is evidence.
And in another moment, Taylor Greene first denied
that she had called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
a traitor to her country
before kind of hedging a little bit
when faced with actual evidence of saying it.
CELLI: In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi
is a traitor to the country, right?
Uh, you're... I'm not answering that question. It's speculation.
-It's hypothetical. -CELLI: You've said that,
haven't you, Miss Greene?
That she's a traitor to the country.
-No, I haven't said that. -CELLI: Okay.
Put up plaintiff's exhibit five, please.
Oh, no, wait.
Hold on now.
"Oh, no. No, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
"Wait. No. No, no, no.
"No. Now that you busted me, I remember the whole thing.
"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no.
No, no, no. Yeah, I remember it now."
I love that move. Yes.
That's when you tell your mom, "Yeah, I did my homework."
And she's like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, let me... Show it to me."
And you're like, "Oh, homework!
"Yeah, I thought you meant my work at home.
"Um, I'll do that now.
"Thank you, Mom, for reminding me. I, uh..
Yeah, no, thank you so much for that."
Look, man, I mean, clearly,
this person is unqualified for Congress, right?
Because politicians
are supposed to be good at lying, okay?
This was just embarrassing.
"Okay, in my defense, I didn't know you had evidence.
"I mean, I never have evidence for the stuff I say.
I didn't even know that was a thing you could do."
(laughter)
Keep in mind, people, this stuff only happened
a little over a year ago.
It's not like they're being asked
to remember their prom date's eye color.
These aren't trick questions.
But nobody in the Republican Party
can seem to remember planning the insurrection
or talking about it
or even how they felt about it at the time.
Kevin McCarthy, Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Jim Jordan. The list goes on and on.
When it comes to the events surrounding that day,
it's almost like it's been erased from their memories.
Which is obviously ridiculous,
unless...
NARRATOR: On the next season of Severance...
MAN: Did you talk to the White House
about trying to overturn the election?
I do not remember.
NARRATOR: It's one thing to forget work.
...McCarthy simply doesn't remember
what he said about Mr. Trump's culpability.
I'm not sure what call you're talking about.
MAN 2: Jim Jordan can't seem to remember
when he talked to Trump on January 6th.
I don't know if I spoke with him in the morning or not.
I just don't know when those conversations happened.
NARRATOR: But what if an entire political party
couldn't remember January 6th?
MAN: Did you talk with other congressmen
about overturning the election?
I have no idea.
(panting)
That's a perfect score.
NARRATOR: Sometimes it's just easier to forget.
Hello.
NARRATOR: Coming to Apple TV+ this fall.
Ben Stiller, you've done it again.
All right, when we come back, DJ Envy and his wife, Gia,
are gonna tell you how to save your marriage,
so don't go away.
(cheering and applause)
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guests tonight are DJ and radio host
RaaShaun Envy and his wife Gia Casey.
They're here to talk about their new book
about their 27-year relationship called Real Life, Real love.
Please welcome Gia and DJ Envy.
(applause and cheering)
Welcome. Welcome. Welcome.
Welcome to The Daily Show.
-Thanks for having us. -Thank you for having us.
Your book has caused quite a storm,
I'm sure you have noticed.
You know? There are not many books about marriages
and relationships that get everyone online talking,
-which I actually think is a good thing. -Mm-hmm.
But I want to start with the "why."
You know, some people write books
about how they did what they did in the relationship.
It's always one person in the couple.
You wrote a book together. It's really intimate.
It is also really vulnerable. Tell me why.
Well, for us, like you said,
we've been together for 27 years, married almost 21 years.
-Wow. -And people constantly come up to us--
friends, family, sometimes even people on the street--
asking us how is it that we kept it together.
And I don't really like that question
because "kept it together" kind of gives the impression
-that you did it somewhat under duress. -Mm-hmm.
I think the better question is, "27 years later,
-why do we still want to be together?" -Mm.
-Ooh, I like that. -Because marriage is a choice.
But a lot of people don't look at it as a choice.
It's like, after the honeymoon stage is over,
-after the big beautiful wedding... -Uh-huh.
typically around seven years down the line,
it's as though a lot of people feel as though
-they're trapped there... -Yeah, yeah.
or being held in a vice, and eyes start wandering.
But why is it that now we still want to be there?
-So we wanted to let people know. -Mm-hmm.
It really gets into the nitty-gritty of relationships
in a way that, like, you know, I...
-Like, you're DJ Envy. -Mm-hmm.
You know what I'm saying? And I-I... I was surprised
by the vulnerability you put in this book
because you even talk about it in the book.
There's no denying that hip-hop for a long time
-has operated in a shroud of bravado. -Correct.
You know, so hip-hop has always been about, uh,
"I don't even talk about my wife. You don't know
-if I have my wife. I'm all about the streets." -Right.
"You know, I got these ladies in the street."
-It's a feeling, it's an idea. -Absolutely. Mm-hmm. -Yes.
And you've come out as DJ Envy, and you're going, "No.
"Here are the mistakes I made.
-Here's how I was insecure as a man." -Yup.
"Here's how I could have been a better husband."
Was there not a part of you that was worried
that the DJ Envy would now basically be, you know,
-losing himself to tell the truth? -Nah.
I think these are the conversations we need to have.
If you think about it, we can go to the barbershop,
-and we talk about our favorite NBA player. -Uh-huh.
We can talk about our favorite sneakers, our favorite music.
But sometimes things that are important
we need to discuss, as well, and that is relationships.
I wish I had somebody at the barbershop and say,
"Hey, look, my wife, is...
-Me and her are arguing about this." -Right.
"Am I right? Is she right? What do I do?"
You know, how do we solve this conversation?
How do we get into a situation
where we're not right-fighting--
meaning we're just fighting to win--
but we're actually want to, you know,
get to the same place and have a better, you know,
description of whatever we're arguing about?
-Because at the end of the day, we're on the same team. -Right.
If we're arguing, we shouldn't be trying to...
I shouldn't be trying to annihilate her.
She shouldn't be trying to destroy me in an argument.
We should be trying to get to an understanding
-where we can both understand. -It seems impossible, though.
Like, I mean, the book starts off in
honestly one of the most vulnerable places,
which I commend you for, because I think
a lot of people live in a silo where they think
their relationship is terrible,
and everyone's living great relationships
-'cause they are on Instagram, right? -Mm-hmm. -Yes.
And then you read the book, and then you go like,
"Oh, boy, relationships are tough, people are struggling."
-Yes. -Yes. -You talk about infidelity.
-Yes. -Mm-hmm. -You know, you talk about...
In the beginning of the book, you were a shitty man to her.
-You talk about this in the book. -(laughter)
No, no, it's in... I'm not...
-(applause) -I'm not saying you...
-Gosh, Trevor. Geez. -No, no, no!
-You talk about being controlling. -Yes, yes.
You talk about being, like... You know, you had this...
You were like, "Gia, you can't go there.
"You're gonna go with me here,
and you're gonna be in the booth when I'm DJing."
-You talk about this. -Yeah.
That's a vulnerable place to put yourself in,
-and it's an honest place. -Mm-hmm.
Like, that is an interesting thing to do as a person.
I want to know why you thought you need to include that.
-You didn't keep it vague. -Right.
You were like, "Here's specifically how I was shitty."
Well, I wanted to talk about
-what I did to be so shitty, Trevor. -(laughter) -No, no.
In a good way. We've all been shitty.
Don't judge. We've all been shitty in relationships.
-You know what I mean. -Goodness gracious.
I was a good husband, too, at one point.
-Now, but... -Yeah.
-But, you know, also, I have a 20-year-old, you know? -Yes.
She goes to NYC, and I wanted to teach her and show her
what she should be looking at, right?
'Cause I tell her if she finds a guy like how I was, run.
-And we wanted... -Wow. -(laughter)
It's not that funny, but I wanted to... but I wanted to
also discuss, you know, the change and the evolution
and what made me think about it and why I was insecure.
I was insecure because I thought she would find somebody smarter,
somebody more, uh, handsome than me, which would be difficult,
-but more handsome than me. -(laughter)
And I was really, really at a place where I was like,
-"I can't let her go." -Yeah.
"If she leaves, she's gonna find somebody else."
And it was my own insecurities
that almost ruined this relationship,
-ruined the best thing I've ever had. -Hmm.
Ruined a relationship with my best friend.
We have six kids, and I almost lost all of that
-because I was insecure. -Wow. It's beautiful, man.
Thank you for sharing. For real, that's beautiful.
-Thank you. -(applause) -That's really nice because...
You see, when we talk about that bravado,
take it away from hip-hop. Because
people have been sold the idea of perfect relationships,
everyone who thinks they're not in a perfect relationship
-thinks that they're failing. -Mm-hmm.
When, in fact, people who are honest go like,
"Oh this is hard. It is hard to do."
You talk about infidelity, you talk about the things
that you were going through.
Gia, one of the biggest things women will talk about is
the embarrassment and shame that comes with being cheated on.
They go like, "My self-worth has almost been publicly decimated."
-In the book, you share... -Yes.
how you found out from a gossip blog
-that he was having an affair. -Mm-hmm.
-Now people lie and everything, but that one was true. -Yes.
When you're sharing that, when women are reading that,
many women would say the same... They'd go like,
"Gia, if a man cheats on me, I'm gone, I'm out."
And yet, you talk about all of your "whys" and your "hows."
-Mm-hmm. -What did you learn in that moment?
And what do you think people can learn
about infidelity in a marriage?
Okay. First of all, RaaShaun didn't cheat on me.
-He cheated on himself. -Ooh.
And a lot of women don't look at the situation
that way when they're cheated on.
And some men. And some men.
But it takes a tremendous amount of integrity and self-worth
to be able to hold yourself to a certain standard
when you're in a relationship in and of itself,
furthermore when you're in the public eye.
Extend that a little bit more when you're an artist,
a DJ, an athlete or someone in that profession.
Because, like you stated earlier,
it's almost expected
that you're living this single life
where you're popping bottles and in the clubs
-and have women around you constantly. -NOAH: Right.
But for me,
it was very important to write the book
because I want women to understand that men cheat,
and it doesn't necessarily have to be because of you.
-NOAH: Hmm. -It is because of them.
So, I don't... I didn't feel embarrassment.
People ask me, "How is it so easy for you to talk about?"
-NOAH: Mm-hmm. -He's his own individual.
He made a choice.
I didn't cheat.
There's no embarrassment for me.
-NOAH: Hmm. -There's no humiliation for me.
I own me, and I have to decide how I'm going to move forward
with my head held high.
It's very important for women to understand that.
-NOAH: Wh-When you... -(applause)
When you talk about it in the book...
What I love about this book is it's not a how-to book.
I will say that.
It's a... It's a book that seems like a conversation
you are having with anyone who's reading the book.
It seems like we've met you as a couple.
We get to know you as a reader.
We see you talk to each other. You talk to us as individuals.
Some of your friends are in the book, as well,
giving their perspectives from the outside and from the inside.
And-and one thing that was really intriguing to me, Gia,
is when you talked about honesty through a different lens.
Many people think the only betrayal
that can happen in a relationship
is one where somebody cheats. That's betrayal.
-That's the only betrayal. -Yes. -Yes. Right.
You drop one of the biggest bombshells in the book
and in your relationship when you told your husband
you had been faking orgasms
-for basically a decade. -Yes.
Yeah. (laughs)
Y'all didn't find that funny, huh?
-(laughter) -Geesh.
That's... Yeah, that's... But you-you admitted.
You're like, "This is also a betrayal.
-This is a dishonesty." -Absolutely.
Like, so, walk me through it as a couple, 'cause-'cause...
We'll talk about the online aspect later.
I-I want to get... I want to get through that,
'cause I really enjoyed you talking about it
-with each other. -Yes.
Here are you as a... as a wife going,
"I lied about this."
Here you are as a husband going, "My whole world is a lie."
-Correct. -Yes. So, we have been together
-since I was 15 and he was 16. -NOAH: Wow.
And I lost my virgin... virginity to him on my...
when I was 16. On our one-year anniversary.
So, I was 16, he was 17.
I was a virgin, and he was virgin-ish.
-Relatively a virgin. -(laughter)
He...
He had tried with somebody else.
It didn't really, you know, cross the finish line.
So... (laughs)
-Oh, boy. Oh, boy. -So he was virgin-ish.
So, needless to say, we were both very inexperienced.
-NOAH: Mm-hmm. -But even during those times,
I enjoyed our intimacy.
-NOAH: Yeah. -I enjoyed sex.
But I didn't know myself
what an orgasm was.
I came to figure it out,
but when you don't understand yourself,
how do you communicate your needs to someone else?
-NOAH: Mm. -And the way that most young women
are raised in this country,
more than likely around the world,
it's as though we're subconsciously taught
that women are playthings for men.
-NOAH: Right. -When you look at billboards,
magazines, ads, television, music videos, anything,
you see beautiful women,
sexy women, sometimes scantily clad,
and you believe that we're here for the pleasure of men.
-NOAH: Mm-hmm. -So I prioritized my husband--
or my boyfriend before he became my husband--
when it came to the bedroom.
And my needs came second.
And I never communicated that with him.
I thought through love.
I thought I was catering to his ego
and catering to the outcome
that obviously any person wants in that type of situation.
And then when I finally told him,
it was years of frustration.
We were in an argument, and I weaponized it
-to hurt him. -Did she. Did she. -NOAH: Ooh!
I thought I was Mandingo,
big daddy longleg.
-Wow. -And if she says...
Now, I'm not gonna lie.
I would watch porn when I was a teen,
-and in porn, you just... -Yes. Yes.
-And that's what I thought it was. -They didn't need all that.
-No, I'm just... -They get it.
-And... -Yeah.
Dur-During that argument, she was like,
"You know, I haven't had an orgasm."
I'm like, "Oh, really?
All right, well, how long? Last week?"
She was like, "No, ten years."
-I looked just like that. -NOAH: That's painful.
-Very. -Yes, yes.
-Very. -And... (sighs)
It wasn't that far-stretched for me at the time
to weaponize something like that
because our relationship at the time,
we didn't behave as though we were on the same team.
-NOAH: Mm-hmm. -If we argued, it was to win.
In the book, we refer to it as right fighting.
-NOAH: Right. -We didn't care about understanding each other,
gaining common ground, fixing the problem.
We just wanted to win
so that we can kind of shrug our shoulder
at the other person at the end
and maybe tell our friends or whatever.
It was with that, um, that feeling
where you just wanted to...
demean, essentially, the person that you're with.
-And... -NOAH: Mm-hmm. You want to hurt them
-as much as they've hurt you. -You want to hurt them
as much... Like they say, hurt people hurt people.
-Mm-hmm. -So, that's where I was coming from at the time.
In-in the sharing of this...
And I want people to read the book,
so I won't give all of it away, because you break it down.
-You talk about the ramifications. -Yeah.
You talk about how it made you feel.
And I love that you also say... You don't blame her.
You don't go like, "I cheated because she did..."
You go like, "No. I now felt insecure. I went..."
It-it really is honest.
One of the things I noticed online, as happens,
is this has become, like, a... It's almost a meme now.
You know, people are like, "Oh, DJ Envy.
I'll never let my wife go out and talk like that."
-Everyone has this bravado. -Yeah.
-Right. -Everyone has this bravado.
-Right. -"My wife would never talk about me.
I-I do my thing. I do..."
-You know what I mean? -It's fake.
R-- Yeah, but-but you had to have known,
especially coming from hip-hop.
You had to have known
that people would respond in that way.
I would love to know why you decided
that the public ridicule
was not enough of a factor to consider,
you know, versus you sharing a truth
-that many couples would love to deny publicly. -Right.
For myself, it was like this--
I mean, and I'm sure you've been through it.
-I mean, we've been canceled before. -Mm-hmm.
We've been laughed at in jokes. And nothing bothers me.
The only thing that bothers me is my family and my kids.
Outside of that, I feel like we have a bigger mission.
And the conversations that we started with that
are through the roof.
If I showed you my DMs and my wife's DMS
of how many wives hit me or hit my wife and says,
"I'm going through that same problem. Thank you.
"Now I can have the conversation with my husband,
"now I can have the conversation with my boyfriend,
"because I wasn't getting to that level.
He didn't know how to please me."
And now it's a conversation. And that's all we want.
Now, that was when we were 16 and 15 and we figured it out.
-Yeah. -We figured out how to be intimate,
what makes her this. what makes me that.
And our relationship is on a whole nother level.
-Yeah. -So nobody can really bother me
or make me feel any way.
I have my wife and my kids.
-Nobody else really matters, honestly. -Those are your fans.
-Those are your biggest fans. -Absolutely. -And if you're
-not... -(applause)
But I make her orgasm now! I just want to put that out there!
-I make her orgasm now! -(laughing) -(cheering)
Multiple times!
I'm not-- We gonna put that out there!
Let me-- let me ask you this before-before I let you go,
'cause I-I could chat to you forever about this, honestly.
Um, l-- Be-Before you go, I-I would love to know two things.
Um, one, you had to start a new relationship.
-Mm-hmm. -You know? Which-which is something you get into
in the book, is there was the old relationship
-and there's definitely a new relationship. -Yeah.
People are in relationships all over the world.
We always find ourselves in relationships that may be bad,
and then now the Internet says everything's toxic,
but you may not know when it's toxic or when it's bad,
when it can be repaired or when it cannot be repaired.
Gia, from your side as a woman,
what advice would you give to women to try and decipher
between working on a thing that can be worked on
-versus staying in something that they shouldn't be? -Mm-hmm.
Well, first, you have to figure out
how you actually feel about the other person.
For me, when I found out, I didn't--
it didn't matter how I felt.
I told him from day one
that if he ever cheated on me, that I was out.
And I meant it. So I was out.
And a lot of work had to be done to get me back in.
God was a huge part of it.
-You'd have to read that in the book. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
But...
...reparations had to be made.
-Wow. -There is a part of the book called "The New Deal."
So when people ask me how,
with the exception of God,
the New Deal explains exactly what steps
Raashaun needed to take to deserve my forgiveness,
to deserve my understanding, and to d--
and to deserve my grace.
And he worked relentlessly
to achieve all of those things.
And the key for me was "until."
He was willing to do that work until I was whole again,
-until we were whole again... -Damn.
...until he was able to fill in the holes that...
-he had put throughout our entire relationship. -Mm.
There was no expiration date.
Because a lot of men will say, "Listen,
"I've been apologizing for two months.
"I've been trying to make it up to you.
"What do you want from me, blood?
-Like, what-what else can I do?" -Mm.
That...
that approach is damaging.
Because you're the offender.
I'm the offendee.
Now I have to expedite my healing
-and make you feel good again? -Mm.
No. That-That's not my job.
You broke it. Now you have to fix it.
And I wasn't willing to teach him how to do that.
He had to figure that out on his own.
-So all of his efforts, the time invested... -Mm-hmm.
...the lengths to which he went to
proved to me that he was worthy
of the things that he needed to become whole
so that we could become whole again.
And it worked.
And once I decided to forgive,
I didn't look back.
Y-- Be-Before you move on from that though, I...
there's something you said in the book which is,
I-I feel, like, a slight semantic but-but a powerful one,
'cause, you know, now you said, "He had to fix it."
But what you said in the book is really interesting
-in that he wasn't supposed to fix you. -Mm-hmm.
-He had to fix him. -Yes. -Correct.
And then you began your journey of fixing you as well.
-Exactly. -And I feel like there's a--
there's a difference there in healing, is it--
you know, especially in the book when you talk about it--
there's a difference between you saying "you have to fix me..."
-Yes. -...versus "you have to fix you
and then I am going to fix me as well."
So, in that fixing, before I let you go,
you become new people. You become more honest,
which is scary, because the path to honesty
is almost the end of the relationship
because you have to start a new one.
So, in that fixing,
what did you have to fix?
And then what are the new things you discovered about each other,
where you went, "Oh, in this new relationship,
I actually love this person more"?
Um, I think honesty. Whole honesty.
And I had to-to learn the definition of love, right?
We all say "I love you." You say, "I love my spouse."
"I love this person." But do we truly know
the definition of love or do we just say it?
And if I love somebody, I don't want to lie to them.
I don't want to hurt them.
I still get butterflies when I see them.
I'll never cheat on 'em.
And I had to understand what love meant.
Sometimes we can say, "Oh, we love 'em,
-but we'll still do this." -Right.
And that's not what I wanted. I wanted s--
I wanted my best friend.
And if that's my best friend, she's gonna be honest with me
-and I have to be honest with her. -Uh-huh.
If there's something that-that bothers me about her
-or something that bothers her, we have to be honest. -Mm.
And now we're at a point in our relationship
we're completely honest.
And even though I put a lot of...
through a whole bunch of bull-bull-ish...
-You can say "bullshit." -...it's...
-bullshit... -(laughter)
...it's...
On the other side, it's a thousand times better.
We are better friends, we are better parents,
we are better lovers, we have a better relationship.
We're just better as people.
And that's due to all the bullshit I put her through.
-Mm-hmm. -Man, it's an amazing book because it's so honest,
it's messy, it's imperfect,
and I think that's what every relationship is.
-Thank you so much for joining me on the show. -Thank you
-for having us. -Thank you. -Thank you very much.
Really appreciate it.
All right, people.
Gia and Envy's book,
Real Life, Real Love, is available now.
And be sure to check out their podcast The Casey Crew.
We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back
-after this. -(cheering and applause)
Thank you. For real.
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