1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:02,035 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:02,135 --> 00:00:03,604 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from New York City, 3 00:00:03,704 --> 00:00:05,272 the only city in America, 4 00:00:05,372 --> 00:00:07,307 it's The Daily Show! 5 00:00:07,407 --> 00:00:09,276 Tonight, 6 00:00:09,376 --> 00:00:11,979 reloading the gun debate. 7 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:14,147 Crazy athletic Asians. 8 00:00:14,248 --> 00:00:17,117 And Kellyanne Conway. 9 00:00:17,217 --> 00:00:21,121 That is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 10 00:00:21,221 --> 00:00:23,257 (cheering and applause) 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,235 What's going on, everybody? Welcome to The Daily Show! 12 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:37,704 I'm Trevor Noah! Thank you so much for tuning in! 13 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:39,506 Thank you for coming out in person! 14 00:00:39,606 --> 00:00:41,508 Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. 15 00:00:41,608 --> 00:00:43,911 Take a seat, everybody. Take a seat. Let's do this thing. 16 00:00:44,011 --> 00:00:47,548 We have got a jam-packed show for you today. 17 00:00:47,648 --> 00:00:50,417 We're gonna be talking about what America's plan is 18 00:00:50,517 --> 00:00:51,818 to stop these mass shootings. 19 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:53,420 Ronny Chieng is celebrating 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,556 Asian American and Pacific Islander Month. 21 00:00:55,656 --> 00:00:57,758 And our guest tonight is former advisor 22 00:00:57,858 --> 00:01:00,327 to President Donald Trump, Kellyanne Conway. 23 00:01:00,427 --> 00:01:01,728 Yeah. So that's gonna be interesting. 24 00:01:01,828 --> 00:01:03,063 So, let's do this, people. 25 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:05,666 Let's jump straight into today's big headlines. 26 00:01:05,766 --> 00:01:07,801 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:13,106 --> 00:01:14,608 All right. There's no denying 28 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:16,476 that there is a lot going on in the world right now. 29 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:19,913 For instance, Russia is still invading Ukraine. 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,416 And, in response, the European Union has just announced 31 00:01:22,516 --> 00:01:26,820 that they will be banning almost all Russian oil imports, 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,655 which is-- if successful, 33 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:30,157 is basically gonna turn Russia's currency 34 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:33,560 into the TikTok crying filter all the time. 35 00:01:33,660 --> 00:01:35,629 And if this wasn't enough for Europe to be dealing with, 36 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:38,498 there's also a growing outbreak of monkeypox. 37 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,735 Yes. A disease that's killing off everyone's NFTs. 38 00:01:41,835 --> 00:01:44,638 So, please, everyone, 39 00:01:44,738 --> 00:01:45,939 vaccinate your monkey. 40 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,275 Remember. 41 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:49,843 And, by the way, they're actually saying 42 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,279 that it's being spread mostly through sex. 43 00:01:52,379 --> 00:01:53,847 Yeah. 44 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,450 So at least now, when you show up to the doctor with monkeypox, 45 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:59,286 your doctor can be like, "My man." 46 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:03,323 Oh, and, on top of all of that, 47 00:02:03,423 --> 00:02:06,360 someone threw a cake at the Mona Lisa. 48 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:10,831 Yes. Which apparently was to protest climate change. 49 00:02:12,432 --> 00:02:13,867 Yeah, it sounded weird, but, uh, 50 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:15,802 apparently most people don't know this about the Mona Lisa, 51 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:17,871 but if you widen out on that picture of her, 52 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,474 she's actually driving a Hummer. Not cool. 53 00:02:20,574 --> 00:02:21,808 That's where the picture's from. 54 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:23,277 So, yeah, there-there's so much happening. 55 00:02:23,377 --> 00:02:25,145 So much happening in the world. 56 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:27,915 But America can't focus on any of that stuff. 57 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:29,082 Because, once again, 58 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:31,285 America is reeling from mass shootings. 59 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:34,688 All the way from Buffalo, New York, to Uvalde, Texas, 60 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:38,425 people are asking, how long can this keep going on? 61 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:39,993 And here's the good news-- 62 00:02:40,093 --> 00:02:43,163 in response, a major bill has been announced 63 00:02:43,263 --> 00:02:46,166 which would ban the new sales of handguns 64 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:48,502 and allow the government to forcefully buy back 65 00:02:48,602 --> 00:02:50,170 assault rifles. 66 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:52,306 In Canada. 67 00:02:52,406 --> 00:02:53,941 Yeah, this is completely real. 68 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:56,677 Canada saw what happened here, 69 00:02:56,777 --> 00:02:58,912 and they're shutting down guns there. 70 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:00,347 Yeah. At this point, 71 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:02,216 America is basically a Scared Straight program 72 00:03:02,316 --> 00:03:04,418 that gets other countries on the right path. Yeah. 73 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:07,154 It's, like, you ever smelled someone so bad, 74 00:03:07,254 --> 00:03:09,189 you know, that you decide that you need to take a shower? 75 00:03:09,289 --> 00:03:11,625 That's what America is with gun laws now to other countries. 76 00:03:11,725 --> 00:03:12,960 They're like... (sniffing) 77 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:15,529 "We need to do something about guns." 78 00:03:15,629 --> 00:03:18,198 And while most Americans-- liberals and conservatives-- 79 00:03:18,298 --> 00:03:20,067 are open to common-sense restrictions 80 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:21,835 on guns to keep Americans safe, 81 00:03:21,935 --> 00:03:24,738 there is still a small yet powerful group 82 00:03:24,838 --> 00:03:28,308 of gun (bleep) who believe the problem 83 00:03:28,408 --> 00:03:30,277 with gun violence is not because of guns. 84 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:33,580 No, it's because of everything else. 85 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,282 Part of the problem is how this generation 86 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:37,417 of kids exists mostly online. 87 00:03:37,518 --> 00:03:40,087 They see actual violence, as is portrayed 88 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:41,955 in the movies they watch, the music they listen to 89 00:03:42,089 --> 00:03:43,891 and the games... the video games they play. 90 00:03:43,991 --> 00:03:46,260 When I played war growing up with my friends, 91 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,362 the boys were allowed to be boys. 92 00:03:48,462 --> 00:03:51,565 I said to my friend Andy, "Bang. You're dead." 93 00:03:51,665 --> 00:03:54,301 But the difference is, we knew it was fake. 94 00:03:54,401 --> 00:03:56,870 And Andy got up afterwards. 95 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,006 And we went and jumped in the fire hydrant 96 00:03:59,106 --> 00:04:00,641 or whoever had a pool. 97 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:02,776 -What? -(laughter) 98 00:04:02,876 --> 00:04:04,912 First of all, why do I feel like Andy's fake? 99 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:08,448 And second of all, what is this loser talking about? 100 00:04:08,549 --> 00:04:10,817 Kids know that games are fake, my man. 101 00:04:10,918 --> 00:04:12,686 No one is turning off Grand Theft Auto like, 102 00:04:12,786 --> 00:04:14,421 "Shit! I just ran over 80 pedestrians. 103 00:04:14,521 --> 00:04:16,056 "Should I get a lawyer? 104 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:17,491 "Oh, my God, I'm too young for jail! 105 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:19,893 What am I gonna do?" 106 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:21,762 The argument that American music 107 00:04:21,862 --> 00:04:23,964 and video games causes gun violence totally falls apart 108 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:26,667 when you realize the entire world listens 109 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,803 to American music and plays American video games. 110 00:04:29,903 --> 00:04:31,438 Yeah, but they have nowhere the same level 111 00:04:31,538 --> 00:04:33,073 of America's mass shootings. 112 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:34,675 And don't get it twisted. It's the same music. 113 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:37,244 It's not like in Sweden, there, Snoop Dogg is like... 114 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:39,279 ♪ Rat, ta-ta-tat, and I never hesitate ♪ 115 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:41,348 ♪ To put a hat on a cat. ♪ 116 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:42,616 (laughter) 117 00:04:42,716 --> 00:04:44,084 It's the same music. 118 00:04:44,151 --> 00:04:45,619 Why are they not getting the same results? 119 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,087 And please, please, please. 120 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:49,756 Gun fanatics--- they-they don't just want 121 00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:51,358 to ban video games and music. 122 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:52,759 No, no, no. It's going further. 123 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:54,528 They also want to replace those things 124 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:57,331 with what they say are some lost values. 125 00:04:57,431 --> 00:04:59,233 The only solution is Christ Jesus 126 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:02,035 and being able to get some type of spirituality 127 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,505 and prayer back into our schools. 128 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:06,306 Right now, today, we live in a country 129 00:05:06,406 --> 00:05:08,775 where our millennials' participation rate 130 00:05:08,876 --> 00:05:13,146 for church is under 30% in a lot of locations. 131 00:05:13,247 --> 00:05:14,948 This is the lowest church participation 132 00:05:15,048 --> 00:05:16,550 we've ever had as a nation. 133 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,119 Uh, and, so, it just shows you 134 00:05:19,219 --> 00:05:22,055 why you see so much chaos in our streets. 135 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:24,057 Yeah, I mean, that could be one solution. 136 00:05:24,091 --> 00:05:27,060 We need to bring Jesus into our schools. 137 00:05:27,127 --> 00:05:29,563 I mean, I don't know how Jesus would feel about that. 138 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:31,865 Yeah, because if I was Jesus, I'd be like, 139 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:34,334 "Yo, forget that. Look at what you guys did to me with nails. 140 00:05:34,434 --> 00:05:37,304 "I'm not coming back when there's guns, like AR-15s. 141 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:39,072 Shit. I learned my lesson." 142 00:05:39,106 --> 00:05:40,741 (applause) 143 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:44,077 But again, if you think gun violence in America is high 144 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:46,246 because people aren't going to church, 145 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:48,782 then why don't they have the same gun violence in Europe? 146 00:05:48,882 --> 00:05:50,651 Because there, nobody goes to church. 147 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:52,786 It's like a thing that's done now. 148 00:05:52,886 --> 00:05:55,088 If you go to church in Germany, you'll be the only one there. 149 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:57,191 Even the preacher will be like, "Aah! 150 00:05:57,291 --> 00:05:59,626 "Oh, geez, you scared me the shit out of me. 151 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:01,161 "Nobody comes in here anymore. 152 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:02,563 "I even forget there was a door. 153 00:06:02,663 --> 00:06:06,266 Oh. Oh. Oh, my God, that was crazy. Oh." 154 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:10,337 The point is gun lovers have been blaming the same causes 155 00:06:10,437 --> 00:06:14,374 over and over again for decades, although, this time, 156 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:18,679 to their credit, they've come up with a new thing to blame. 157 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:21,048 It's not the guns, it's the books. 158 00:06:21,114 --> 00:06:23,750 We stopped teaching values in so many of our schools. 159 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:26,086 Now-now we're teaching wokeness, we're t-- 160 00:06:26,186 --> 00:06:29,056 we're indoctrinating our children with things like CRT. 161 00:06:29,122 --> 00:06:32,226 Yeah, that's right. That's how evil critical race theory is-- 162 00:06:32,326 --> 00:06:33,927 it's only been around for, like, a year, 163 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:37,531 and it's already caused three decades of school shootings. 164 00:06:37,631 --> 00:06:42,069 It's really tough. It goes back in time. It's so powerful. 165 00:06:42,102 --> 00:06:44,671 Look, man, I know you guys want to blame anything but guns, 166 00:06:44,771 --> 00:06:47,274 but it still has to make sense. Can we agree on that? Right? 167 00:06:47,374 --> 00:06:50,377 You can't just blame stuff that you are already mad at. 168 00:06:50,477 --> 00:06:51,912 These guys are like, "Maybe there wouldn't be 169 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,580 "so many, uh, you know, violent shootings in schools 170 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,150 "if my wife would stop flirting with the landscaper. I mean... 171 00:06:57,251 --> 00:06:59,686 is it just me?" 172 00:06:59,786 --> 00:07:01,889 They're making it sound like there used to be a lesson 173 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:04,291 that was about the importance of not shooting people, 174 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:06,026 but they never got to it because they spent too long 175 00:07:06,059 --> 00:07:09,296 on teaching slavery. This doesn't make any sense. 176 00:07:09,396 --> 00:07:11,798 And if it's not religion and if it's not video games 177 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:13,567 and it's not the music, what else could it be? 178 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,302 Well, according to some gun lovers, 179 00:07:15,402 --> 00:07:17,938 maybe it was the school's fault. 180 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:20,407 One of the things that-that everyone agree 181 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:23,043 is don't have all of these unlocked back doors. 182 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,246 Have one door into and out of the school. 183 00:07:26,346 --> 00:07:29,116 I would like to see this-- a national push toward 184 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:31,952 instead of parent buying their kids all these tools 185 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:34,321 and toys and games, 186 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:36,823 invest in the classroom to make it safer. 187 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,759 They have blankets that you can put up on the wall 188 00:07:38,859 --> 00:07:40,093 that are colorful and beautiful, 189 00:07:40,194 --> 00:07:41,595 but they're ballistic blankets. 190 00:07:41,695 --> 00:07:44,064 We need to install man traps. 191 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:46,366 A series of interlocking doors at the school entrance 192 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:48,635 that are triggered by a trip wire. 193 00:07:48,735 --> 00:07:51,338 The trip wire can be a gunshot, broken glass, 194 00:07:51,438 --> 00:07:54,141 a manual switch tossed by a school employee, 195 00:07:54,241 --> 00:07:57,911 and it traps the shooter like a rat. 196 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:07,721 Are these people hearing themselves? 197 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:11,024 You think kids can't tell fantasy from reality, 198 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:14,328 but your suggestion is like, "How about we make a school 199 00:08:14,428 --> 00:08:18,165 "with steel doors that slam and windows that turn into concrete 200 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:21,468 "or, even better, the whole school becomes a Transformer. 201 00:08:21,568 --> 00:08:24,238 "Yeah, so that way, when the school shooter comes, 202 00:08:24,338 --> 00:08:28,342 the whole school can run away from it." 203 00:08:28,442 --> 00:08:31,845 Not to mention, have you guys ever been in a school? Huh? 204 00:08:31,945 --> 00:08:33,614 You realize the fire alarm gets pulled as a prank, 205 00:08:33,714 --> 00:08:35,582 like, once a week. You think the jocks 206 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:38,619 aren't gonna be constantly tossing nerds into the man trap? 207 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:44,791 Do you listen to yourselves? 208 00:08:44,892 --> 00:08:47,528 And even if those ideas don't work, even if they don't, 209 00:08:47,628 --> 00:08:50,197 there's one solution that conservatives 210 00:08:50,297 --> 00:08:53,767 love to come back to time and time again, 211 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,570 and over the weekend it was proposed yet again 212 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:00,040 by none other than Donald Jarhead Trump. 213 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:03,810 What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul 214 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:06,213 at schools all across our country. 215 00:09:06,313 --> 00:09:08,849 And above all, from this day forward, 216 00:09:09,016 --> 00:09:12,219 every school in America should have a police officer 217 00:09:12,319 --> 00:09:14,821 or an armed resource officer 218 00:09:14,922 --> 00:09:17,291 -on duty at all times. -(cheering and applause) 219 00:09:19,393 --> 00:09:22,229 Yeah. Yeah. You know, you always hear 220 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:23,764 people saying this after a school shooting. 221 00:09:23,864 --> 00:09:27,367 What we need is armed police officers in the school. 222 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:29,303 What's amazing about the debate this time 223 00:09:29,403 --> 00:09:31,438 is that they're still saying it 224 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:34,408 even though in the shooting that just happened, 225 00:09:34,508 --> 00:09:37,678 there was an armed police officer, 226 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:39,046 and it didn't help. 227 00:09:39,112 --> 00:09:40,247 Yeah, classic Trump. 228 00:09:40,347 --> 00:09:43,183 Proposing a solution after it already failed. 229 00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:44,518 (laughter) 230 00:09:44,618 --> 00:09:46,053 I mean, he would have been a lot of fun 231 00:09:46,119 --> 00:09:47,621 in the lifeboats after the Titanic. 232 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:51,425 "Next time, we should just ram that iceberg really hard. 233 00:09:51,525 --> 00:09:53,260 "What's the worst that could happen? 234 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,762 What do you think, Jack? What do you think?" 235 00:09:55,863 --> 00:09:57,898 (laughter) 236 00:09:58,866 --> 00:10:00,334 And as we've all heard by now, 237 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:02,603 there wasn't just an armed resource officer on the scene. 238 00:10:02,703 --> 00:10:05,038 There was a whole platoon of police officers 239 00:10:05,138 --> 00:10:06,740 who responded to the shooting 240 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,976 but didn't do shit to stop it 241 00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:11,178 while it was still going on. 242 00:10:11,278 --> 00:10:12,446 Yeah, and I'm willing to guess 243 00:10:12,546 --> 00:10:13,914 it's because they were all so shit-scared 244 00:10:14,014 --> 00:10:16,550 of a gunman armed with an AR-15. 245 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:18,752 I feel like that's what we have to ask ourselves. 246 00:10:18,852 --> 00:10:20,354 As a society, 247 00:10:20,454 --> 00:10:22,055 do we want to live in a world 248 00:10:22,155 --> 00:10:24,791 where anyone can legally buy weapons 249 00:10:24,892 --> 00:10:28,695 that the police are scared of? Huh? 250 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,230 And just by the way, just by the way, 251 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:31,465 for me, it's been amazing 252 00:10:31,565 --> 00:10:34,268 to see how some people love guns so much 253 00:10:34,368 --> 00:10:36,737 that they've gone from "Blue Lives Matter" 254 00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:38,805 to "Screw these bitch-ass cops. 255 00:10:38,906 --> 00:10:40,107 "If they're not here to get shot, 256 00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:41,742 "then what's the point of having them around? 257 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:44,077 (bleep) the police." 258 00:10:44,178 --> 00:10:46,246 Oh, now you don't care about the cops' lives? 259 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:47,648 Like, I don't know. Maybe it's just me. 260 00:10:47,748 --> 00:10:49,516 I would rather, say, get rid of the AR-15s 261 00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:51,785 and make these officers' jobs a lot more safe. 262 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:53,487 Maybe it's just me. 263 00:10:53,587 --> 00:10:55,389 (cheering and applause) 264 00:10:55,489 --> 00:10:56,957 It's why a lot of people flip. 265 00:10:57,057 --> 00:11:00,060 You just flip whenever you feel like it. 266 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,864 It's also crazy how the cops, they can do anything. 267 00:11:03,964 --> 00:11:07,601 Right? They shoot people because they think they have a gun. 268 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:09,736 And then now they're like... They know it's a gun. 269 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:11,238 They're like, "Well, can't shoot them." 270 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:12,573 (laughter) 271 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:15,075 "If it's a wallet, maybe. But, I mean..." 272 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:18,278 So, look, I know that America's never going to do 273 00:11:18,378 --> 00:11:19,947 what Canada is doing. I don't even expect that. 274 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,748 Right? There's a gun culture in this country 275 00:11:21,849 --> 00:11:24,618 that is far too engrained to ever truly get rid of it. 276 00:11:24,718 --> 00:11:26,086 And I also know 277 00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:28,222 that we're not gonna stop gun violence altogether. 278 00:11:28,322 --> 00:11:29,423 I'm not naive. 279 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:31,859 But I would hope, I would just hope 280 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:33,627 that after a tragedy like this, 281 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:36,096 Americans could agree 282 00:11:36,163 --> 00:11:39,833 that losing some of these is worth it 283 00:11:39,933 --> 00:11:43,770 to prevent losing more of these. 284 00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:45,339 Don't go away, 'cause after the break, 285 00:11:45,439 --> 00:11:47,107 Ronny Chieng is celebrating AAPI Month, 286 00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:49,376 and Kellyanne Conway will be joining us on the show. 287 00:11:49,476 --> 00:11:50,644 We'll be right back. 288 00:11:50,744 --> 00:11:52,779 (cheering and applause) 289 00:11:58,418 --> 00:12:00,453 (cheering and applause) 290 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:07,193 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 291 00:12:07,293 --> 00:12:08,528 Throughout the month of May, 292 00:12:08,628 --> 00:12:09,862 people have been celebrating 293 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:12,465 Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. 294 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:14,434 And tonight, for the last day of May, 295 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:18,137 Ronny Chieng decided to school us the way only he can. 296 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:20,273 ♪ ♪ 297 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,208 That's right, people. 298 00:12:22,308 --> 00:12:24,210 We've got our own month. 299 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:26,612 And in honor of AAPI Month, I'm gonna teach you 300 00:12:26,713 --> 00:12:29,916 about the most underrepresented demographic of all time, 301 00:12:30,016 --> 00:12:32,819 Asian Americans in sports. 302 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:34,587 And I don't just mean the heavy hitters, 303 00:12:34,687 --> 00:12:36,756 like Jeremy Lin, Michelle Kwan, 304 00:12:36,856 --> 00:12:38,091 Tiger Woods. 305 00:12:38,191 --> 00:12:39,525 Yeah, we're claiming him. 306 00:12:39,626 --> 00:12:40,627 You got a problem with that? 307 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:42,629 Take it up with the U.N. 308 00:12:42,729 --> 00:12:45,565 Instead, I want to focus on the underdogs who blazed a trail 309 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:48,301 for all the other Asian American athletes to come, 310 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:50,036 people like Wally Yonamine, 311 00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:51,971 a Japanese American who played not one 312 00:12:52,071 --> 00:12:54,173 but two professional sports. 313 00:12:54,273 --> 00:12:55,942 And unlike Michael Jordan, 314 00:12:56,042 --> 00:12:58,011 he didn't suck at one of them. 315 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:00,013 Also, he never became a crying meme. 316 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,849 Why are you sad? You're Michael Jordan. 317 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,384 First, in 1947, 318 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:07,920 Yonamine became a running back for the San Francisco 49ers. 319 00:13:08,021 --> 00:13:09,789 But in the wake of World War II, 320 00:13:09,889 --> 00:13:11,591 he faced a ton of discrimination, 321 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:13,526 even while he was playing. 322 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,661 When he would get tackled, 323 00:13:14,761 --> 00:13:17,063 the opposing team would punch and kick him. 324 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:18,831 Do you realize how insane that is? 325 00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:20,199 I mean, it's football. 326 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:22,535 Everyone's going home with brain damage already. 327 00:13:22,568 --> 00:13:23,970 You don't need to force it. 328 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:26,205 After a wrist injury in 1951, 329 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:28,675 Yonamine decided to switch to baseball. 330 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:31,344 He moved to Japan to play for the Yomiuri Giants, 331 00:13:31,444 --> 00:13:33,713 where he was an 11-time All-Star 332 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:36,649 and became the first American player ever 333 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:40,620 to be inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame. 334 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,157 Crazy thing is, Yonamine faced racism in Japan, too, 335 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:46,426 but this time, because he was American. 336 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,762 At games, the fans would chant, "Yankee, go home!," 337 00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:51,764 which is normally something you expect 338 00:13:51,864 --> 00:13:53,399 to hear only at Red Sox games, 339 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:56,736 or, honestly, any place in Boston that serves alcohol. 340 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:58,371 But enough about baseball. 341 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:00,506 Let's talk about something people actually watch-- 342 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:01,841 the Olympics. 343 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:04,677 In 1948, Victoria Manalo Draves became the first 344 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:06,646 AAPI Olympic champion, 345 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:09,983 but being Filipino, she also faced a lot of discrimination. 346 00:14:10,083 --> 00:14:12,318 In fact, when she was younger and used a public pool, 347 00:14:12,418 --> 00:14:15,955 the town assholes would drain the water after she swam in it, 348 00:14:16,055 --> 00:14:18,958 which isn't just racist. It's idiotic. 349 00:14:19,058 --> 00:14:20,426 You're gonna double your water bill 350 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:23,096 just because you're afraid of catching being Asian? 351 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:24,897 You can't even get that from a pool. 352 00:14:24,998 --> 00:14:27,533 You have to share the same straw, dumbasses. 353 00:14:27,634 --> 00:14:29,869 But against the odds, Manalo won her gold metal 354 00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:31,838 in the women's three meter springboard, 355 00:14:31,938 --> 00:14:34,440 and she was cheered on by diver Sammy Lee, 356 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:37,543 the first Asian-American man to win an Olympic gold medal. 357 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:40,947 That's right. The first AAPI gold medals at the same games. 358 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:42,882 It was like Asian Christmas, 359 00:14:42,982 --> 00:14:44,550 which is just Christmas. 360 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:46,552 But not every Asian who broke the color barrier 361 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:47,987 had a happy ending. 362 00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:51,691 In 1948, Larry Kwong became the first non-white player 363 00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:54,794 in the NHL when he joined the New York Rangers. 364 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,696 But they only put him on ice for a minute, 365 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:59,265 and he never played in another game again, 366 00:14:59,365 --> 00:15:01,668 which sucks. But breaking the color barrier 367 00:15:01,768 --> 00:15:03,369 is like losing your virginity: 368 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:07,006 even if you only did it for a second, it still counts. 369 00:15:07,106 --> 00:15:10,743 Another great first happened in 1927, when Walter Achiu became 370 00:15:10,843 --> 00:15:14,280 the first person of East Asian descent to play in the NFL. 371 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:18,251 Because his last name was Achiu, he earned the nickname "Sneeze." 372 00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:21,688 Sadly, this was before athlete sponsorships were a thing, 373 00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:25,658 so he couldn't even get that sweet, sweet Kleenex money. 374 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:29,429 Eventually, he retired from the NFL to compete in a safer sport, 375 00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:32,031 wrestling, proving that Asians 376 00:15:32,131 --> 00:15:34,200 can roll around with our balls in someone's face 377 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,069 just like everyone else. 378 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,839 But let's move on to my personal favorite sport: basketball. 379 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:43,843 The first non-white player of any race in NBA history 380 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:46,546 was Japanese American Wataru Misaka. 381 00:15:46,579 --> 00:15:49,882 In 1947, he was the first draft pick of the New York Knicks, 382 00:15:49,983 --> 00:15:52,585 and they even promoted his skills to sell tickets, 383 00:15:52,685 --> 00:15:55,722 but, shocker, he faced a lot of anti-Japanese sentiment 384 00:15:55,822 --> 00:15:57,857 and only ended up playing three games. 385 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:00,493 It was so bad, he decided to go back to school 386 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,829 to get his engineering degree, which I respect. 387 00:16:02,929 --> 00:16:04,597 He was basically like, 388 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:06,499 "Oh, you don't like me being Asian? 389 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:09,669 Well, I'm gonna be extra Asian now, bitches." 390 00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:11,404 But sports isn't just about the athletes. 391 00:16:11,504 --> 00:16:13,573 There are so many other people who have made history 392 00:16:13,673 --> 00:16:15,541 without destroying their joints. 393 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:16,976 People like Kim Ng, 394 00:16:17,076 --> 00:16:19,078 who became the general manager of the Miami Marlins, 395 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,813 making her the first female GM 396 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:23,016 in any major American men's league. 397 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:26,986 She worked her way up the ladder facing racism and sexism. 398 00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:29,088 It's the surf and turf of discrimination. 399 00:16:29,188 --> 00:16:30,757 So, now you know. There's been 400 00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:34,093 so many unsung Asian sports heroes in history. 401 00:16:34,193 --> 00:16:35,395 Don't bother thanking me. 402 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:38,531 My meager teacher salary is thanks enough. 403 00:16:38,564 --> 00:16:40,667 And yes, this is all gonna be on a final. 404 00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:43,169 Happy AAPI Month, idiots. 405 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:45,271 (cheering and applause) 406 00:16:45,371 --> 00:16:47,407 Ronny Chieng, everybody. All right, when we come back, 407 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:48,908 former advisor to President Trump 408 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,943 Kellyanne Conway is joining me on the show, 409 00:16:51,044 --> 00:16:52,178 so don't go away. 410 00:16:52,278 --> 00:16:54,314 (cheering and applause) 411 00:17:02,255 --> 00:17:04,290 (cheering and applause) 412 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:08,494 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 413 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:09,929 My guest tonight served 414 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:12,131 as Donald Trump's campaign manager in 2016 415 00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:14,000 and would become one of President Trump's 416 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,668 longest-serving aides. 417 00:17:15,768 --> 00:17:18,204 She's here to talk about that and her new memoir, 418 00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:19,472 Here's the Deal. 419 00:17:19,572 --> 00:17:21,040 Please welcome Kellyanne Conway. 420 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:23,176 -♪ ♪ -(cheering and applause) 421 00:17:25,912 --> 00:17:27,146 -Thank you for having me. -Welcome to the show. 422 00:17:27,246 --> 00:17:28,881 -Thank you. -Thank you so much. 423 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,051 Kellyanne Conway, welcome to The Daily Show. 424 00:17:32,151 --> 00:17:33,352 Thank you for having me. 425 00:17:33,452 --> 00:17:35,588 You know, there are few guests I have on my show 426 00:17:35,688 --> 00:17:39,525 that get me more people asking the question why. 427 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:41,194 You know? That's what people-- I said, um, 428 00:17:41,294 --> 00:17:42,695 "Kellyanne Conway's gonna be on the show." And people were like, 429 00:17:42,795 --> 00:17:44,297 "Why? Why have Kellyanne Conway on?" 430 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:45,798 And then, you know, some of my friends were like, 431 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:47,700 "Oh, she's gonna lie to you. She's gonna flip things around. 432 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,202 "She's gonna spin this-- She's gonna be-- 433 00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:50,870 She's gonna-- Why?" That's what people asked me the whole... 434 00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:53,539 -But you know why they're really asking that. -Why? 435 00:17:53,639 --> 00:17:55,775 -(laughter) -You tell me. 436 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:56,976 Because they think they know me. 437 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:58,711 They think the caricature is real, 438 00:17:58,811 --> 00:18:01,647 and they don't want to hear from people who disagree with them. 439 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,115 I don't think that that's completely true. 440 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,417 -I think it's very true of many people. -I think it's because 441 00:18:04,517 --> 00:18:06,352 people-- I think it's-- I think what happens is 442 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:08,020 people get frustrated, 443 00:18:08,121 --> 00:18:09,388 um, especially in America, 444 00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:11,591 because they feel like they're being toyed with. 445 00:18:11,691 --> 00:18:13,359 You know? And I'm not putting this all on you, by the way. 446 00:18:13,392 --> 00:18:14,927 I-I actually found the book interesting, 447 00:18:15,027 --> 00:18:17,497 because there were parts of the book 448 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:21,634 that I feel like illuminated stories that you-you never told 449 00:18:21,734 --> 00:18:23,536 or parts of being in the Trump presidency 450 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:24,704 that nobody knew about. 451 00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:26,139 And-and I guess 452 00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:28,474 maybe that-that's, like, the first question I had 453 00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:31,377 about your job and what you were doing with President Trump 454 00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:34,147 and that is, when you were working in the White House 455 00:18:34,247 --> 00:18:36,415 and you had the position that you had, 456 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,950 when you're working for an administration, 457 00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:40,219 do you feel like there are times where you have to lie 458 00:18:40,386 --> 00:18:41,420 to protect the president? 459 00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:43,289 Or do you feel like you have to do that 460 00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:45,291 because you're furthering a greater good? 461 00:18:45,391 --> 00:18:47,226 No. Not-- None of the above. 462 00:18:47,393 --> 00:18:49,295 First of all, the president offered me 463 00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:51,264 the press secretary job within an hour 464 00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:55,067 -or an hour and a half of being elected i-in 2016. -Mm-hmm. 465 00:18:55,168 --> 00:18:56,769 I said no. 'Cause he said, "You'll be great at that." 466 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:58,304 I'm thinking to myself-- I wrote in the book-- 467 00:18:58,404 --> 00:18:59,405 "I'd be a terrible press secretary. 468 00:18:59,472 --> 00:19:01,107 I'm not even sure what they do." 469 00:19:01,207 --> 00:19:02,742 And so I didn't want a press or comms job. 470 00:19:02,842 --> 00:19:04,343 I took a policy job, 471 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:06,245 but I kept getting pulled out, 472 00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:08,714 um, to speak on behalf of the White House, 473 00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:10,349 on behalf of the country. 474 00:19:10,449 --> 00:19:12,218 And I have to tell you, people will say, 475 00:19:12,351 --> 00:19:13,820 "How can you go up against this anchor?" 476 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,855 They ask me the same question. "Why would you go on this show? 477 00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:17,023 "Why do you deal with that anchor? 478 00:19:17,123 --> 00:19:18,624 -"They're not fair to you. -Right. 479 00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:20,226 They only prefer Democrats," et cetera. 480 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,162 And I say, "Look, the anchors are never really my audience. 481 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:24,397 The people are the audience." 482 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,365 There are folks out there, the forgotten man, 483 00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:27,800 forgotten woman, forgotten child, 484 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,136 who would not otherwise have access to information, 485 00:19:30,236 --> 00:19:31,471 news they can use, 486 00:19:31,571 --> 00:19:33,639 facts and figures that affect their ev-everyday lives. 487 00:19:33,739 --> 00:19:36,242 -Mm-hmm. -But there were many times I didn't speak. 488 00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:37,677 There were many things I didn't address. 489 00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:39,946 I either felt that I was not the expert on them 490 00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,614 or I didn't have all the answers. 491 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,182 But I would note that, you know, 492 00:19:43,282 --> 00:19:46,385 all the smart men around me did not go on TV, 493 00:19:46,452 --> 00:19:47,753 did not come and face the music, 494 00:19:47,854 --> 00:19:49,388 did not come and explain. 495 00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:51,991 Um, I was almost like their mop-mop-up girl 496 00:19:52,091 --> 00:19:54,427 and spokesmodel sometimes. That's what they wanted. 497 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,429 So that they can be behind the scenes, 498 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:57,763 working on important policy. 499 00:19:57,864 --> 00:19:59,532 And, I have to tell you, even this White House, 500 00:19:59,632 --> 00:20:01,400 when it started, the Biden-Harris White House, 501 00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:02,602 they said, "Look at us. 502 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,004 We have a 100% female press and comm shop." 503 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:06,672 And I thought, "Well, of course you do. 504 00:20:06,772 --> 00:20:09,108 Because the women don't get as many policy jobs." 505 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,176 And that's what I wanted to do. 506 00:20:10,343 --> 00:20:11,444 So I worked on veterans, 507 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,646 military, military spouses. 508 00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:15,715 I worked on the-the Tax Cut and Jobs Act. 509 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,350 -I worked on the opioid crisis. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 510 00:20:17,416 --> 00:20:19,352 I worked on education, health care reform. 511 00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:20,720 The list goes on and on. 512 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:24,757 And you find out in these public service jobs, Trevor, 513 00:20:24,857 --> 00:20:28,094 that you can help make a difference in people's lives, 514 00:20:28,194 --> 00:20:30,363 and I think that many of the Trump-Pence accomplishments 515 00:20:30,429 --> 00:20:31,731 have done exactly that. 516 00:20:31,831 --> 00:20:34,233 We were better off economically, 517 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,235 energy-wise. Putin was not in Ukraine. 518 00:20:36,369 --> 00:20:37,970 -Iran was not salivating at Israel. -Well, well, no, no. No. 519 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,939 -The list goes on and on. It's true. -No, no, forgive me. 520 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:41,541 -How much did you pay for gas today? -No, no, no. 521 00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:43,910 Forgive me, forgive me. 'Cause y-you're doing the thing 522 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:45,578 that you're very good at right now, and that is... 523 00:20:45,678 --> 00:20:47,380 -Yeah, speaking the truth. -No, and that is 524 00:20:47,446 --> 00:20:49,816 not-not answering the question that I've asked you. 525 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,384 -Um... -I did answer it. 526 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:53,119 -No, no, no. No, what I-- what I'm s... -I said no. 527 00:20:53,219 --> 00:20:54,620 ...what I'm saying is this-- is... 528 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,088 And I-I really-- I don't want to have 529 00:20:56,189 --> 00:20:57,957 a confrontational conversation with you, 'cause I-- 530 00:20:58,057 --> 00:20:59,759 when I was reading the book, it felt like more 531 00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:01,794 -of a conversation with you as a person. -Yes. 532 00:21:01,894 --> 00:21:03,796 So, okay, let me-- let me ask it this way. 533 00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:06,165 So, here you have a situation where, 534 00:21:06,332 --> 00:21:09,435 in the book, you talk about how you were oftentimes 535 00:21:09,535 --> 00:21:11,070 a voice of reason in the room. 536 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:13,372 You know, I have no reason to not believe that. 537 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:16,175 You talk about in the book how you said to Donald Trump, 538 00:21:16,342 --> 00:21:21,581 "Hey, you lost the election, you have lost this election." 539 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:22,949 Well, what I actually said was... 540 00:21:23,049 --> 00:21:25,885 We were talking about the December 14 deadline. 541 00:21:25,985 --> 00:21:27,220 That was the date by which 542 00:21:27,353 --> 00:21:28,488 the electors would certify the election. 543 00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:29,989 -Right. -And they were about to certify it 544 00:21:30,089 --> 00:21:31,991 -for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. -Mm-hmm. 545 00:21:32,091 --> 00:21:33,392 And in the six weeks prior to that-- 546 00:21:33,493 --> 00:21:34,727 I had long left the White House-- 547 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,162 but in the six weeks prior to that, 548 00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:39,732 the president and his legal team were trying to find proof 549 00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:43,369 of theft and fraud and malfeasance and shenanigans. 550 00:21:43,402 --> 00:21:44,937 And I think there are many unanswered questions 551 00:21:45,037 --> 00:21:46,672 from 2020 we'll never know. 552 00:21:46,772 --> 00:21:48,241 But the main thing you said to him was? 553 00:21:48,374 --> 00:21:49,809 But I said, "And you're coming up short. 554 00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:51,144 "It looks like you're coming up short 555 00:21:51,244 --> 00:21:52,512 for that certification date." 556 00:21:52,612 --> 00:21:53,846 Other people, Trevor, then had the idea... 557 00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:55,081 No, no. Wait, wait. Don't go to other people. 558 00:21:55,181 --> 00:21:56,716 Wait, wait. Honestly, no, no, I mean... 559 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,417 No, no, to go to January 6 and do a different certification. 560 00:21:58,518 --> 00:21:59,752 No, no. I'm not talking about January 6, though. 561 00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:01,087 I'm saying, in this case. 562 00:22:01,187 --> 00:22:02,355 This is what I'm saying is interesting, 563 00:22:02,455 --> 00:22:03,890 is you said this in the book, right? 564 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,324 I'm talking about a now issue. You said this in the book. 565 00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:08,461 Since the book came out, Donald Trump has come out on, 566 00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,329 I think it was Truth Social, and he said, 567 00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:11,798 "No, Kellyanne Conway is lying. 568 00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:13,866 "She never said that to me, she never told me that I lost. 569 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:15,401 "And if she told me that, 570 00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:17,136 I would have fired her on the spot." 571 00:22:17,236 --> 00:22:18,704 So let's say, like, in that instance, 572 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:20,740 it's you, it's Donald Trump. So who's telling the truth? 573 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,009 He didn't use the words "liar" or "fire," but what he said was, 574 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:24,410 "I wouldn't have dealt with her anymore. 575 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:25,812 That's not a good criterion to deal with anyone." 576 00:22:25,912 --> 00:22:27,847 "I wouldn't have dealt with her anymore," is... 577 00:22:27,947 --> 00:22:30,049 -But, um, I told him... -(laughter) 578 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:33,119 Yeah. I told him that he came up short, 579 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,354 and it broke my heart. I wish he were still the president, 580 00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:36,823 -because things were much better. -So you're saying... 581 00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:38,491 So you're saying you did tell him? And so, he's... 582 00:22:38,591 --> 00:22:39,859 -When he's saying you didn't... -I did tell him 583 00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:41,661 -that he was coming up short for December 14. -Right. 584 00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:43,029 But I'm saying... but this is what I mean, and this... 585 00:22:43,129 --> 00:22:44,363 Then, other people had... well, no, 586 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:45,698 -I'm very candid and very honest. -No, no, no. 587 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:47,033 -Yeah, but... -And by the way, this is not one 588 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:48,668 of these tell-all and bore most. 589 00:22:48,768 --> 00:22:50,937 I'm not speaking up now because I didn't speak up then. 590 00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:52,472 -God knows I spoke up then. -You did indeed. 591 00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:54,874 -But this is my memoir. It's 500 pages in there. -Yes. 592 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:57,910 -My life story, certainly time as campaign manager. -Yes. 593 00:22:58,010 --> 00:23:00,213 Making history as the first female campaign manager. 594 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,848 Completely, and we're gonna get to that. 595 00:23:01,948 --> 00:23:03,683 And senior counselor to the president and what that meant. 596 00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:04,984 -Allow me to move through it step by step. -Please. 597 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:06,085 I promise you I'm gonna get to those parts. 598 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,353 What I'm asking you... 599 00:23:07,453 --> 00:23:08,921 So, I think you've answered in this case. 600 00:23:09,021 --> 00:23:10,356 So you're saying that is... the truth is that you told him? 601 00:23:10,456 --> 00:23:11,891 And you said, broke your heart to tell him. 602 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,193 Look, Joe Biden's the president. I don't think everything was 603 00:23:14,327 --> 00:23:15,528 completely fair and transparent. 604 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:16,863 No, no, no, no, I'm not asking about that. 605 00:23:16,963 --> 00:23:18,197 But Joe Biden's the president, and I told him... 606 00:23:18,331 --> 00:23:19,499 You see, you're doing the Kellyanne Conway. 607 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,867 You see, the people are right now with me. 608 00:23:20,967 --> 00:23:22,201 The people who said to me, "She's gonna do the thing 609 00:23:22,335 --> 00:23:23,469 to you." You're doing the thing to me right now. 610 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:24,770 That Joe Biden is the president? 611 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:26,339 No, I didn't ask you that question, though. 612 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,608 -Okay. -The question I asked you was, who's telling the truth. 613 00:23:28,708 --> 00:23:30,176 That's honestly what I asked you. 614 00:23:30,343 --> 00:23:31,711 I didn't ask you about who's president, who's not president. 615 00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:33,045 I said, "Who's telling the truth?" 616 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:34,614 As in, you told one side of the story, 617 00:23:34,714 --> 00:23:36,115 Donald Trump told another side of the story. 618 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:37,650 And what you're telling me is, you're saying 619 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,685 -his side of the story is not true. -I'm telling you 620 00:23:39,785 --> 00:23:41,854 that I told him, before the December 14 deadline, 621 00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:43,656 -that they were coming up short. -Right, which he disagrees with. 622 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:45,958 So maybe this is what I'm trying to say. 623 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:49,762 In this book, what I found particularly interesting is, 624 00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:53,399 you've given us an insight into the Trump White House 625 00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:56,569 and how it worked or how sometimes it didn't work. 626 00:23:56,669 --> 00:24:00,106 You know, you've had some of the more scathing opinions 627 00:24:00,206 --> 00:24:01,974 on people like Jared Kushner, for instance. 628 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:05,044 You don't mince your words in the book about Jared, 629 00:24:05,144 --> 00:24:08,447 you know, or Steve Bannon, and, you know, it feels like 630 00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:11,384 you felt like, at times they, you know, 631 00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:13,152 got away with not being as good at the job 632 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:14,654 as you felt they should have been. 633 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,623 Well, I think if the president, your boss in a workplace, 634 00:24:17,723 --> 00:24:19,125 -asks you to work together as a team... -Yeah. 635 00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:20,560 -...you should try to do that. -Mm-hmm. 636 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:22,128 And this just happened to be the West Wing, 637 00:24:22,228 --> 00:24:23,696 so it was very important that people be collaborative 638 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:26,432 and not confrontational. I felt that there... Not I felt... 639 00:24:26,532 --> 00:24:29,235 There was a lot of undercutting, if not usurping 640 00:24:29,335 --> 00:24:32,138 of other people's duties and responsibilities. 641 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,407 And there was a lot of gratuitously nasty stuff 642 00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:37,343 going on, also, and it happened at the very beginning. 643 00:24:37,376 --> 00:24:39,345 And here's someone, who, you know, 644 00:24:39,445 --> 00:24:41,347 along with George, my husband, made a decision 645 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:43,583 to move to Washington, D.C., move our children there. 646 00:24:43,683 --> 00:24:46,118 -He, too, took a big job in the Trump administration. -Mm-hmm. 647 00:24:46,219 --> 00:24:48,921 We have that in common. And we're doing all this, 648 00:24:49,021 --> 00:24:50,490 and I have people constantly knifing me, 649 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:52,158 constantly throwing logs in my path. 650 00:24:52,258 --> 00:24:53,993 Now, I had two choices, and I think a lot of women 651 00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:55,561 in the workplace will relate to this, Trevor. 652 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:58,131 I had two choices. I can sort of slink away 653 00:24:58,231 --> 00:24:59,532 or cry under the desk and hope 654 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:01,300 the emotional shrapnel doesn't hit me, 655 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,769 or I can hold my head high and forge ahead 656 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:05,972 and try to be one small molecule 657 00:25:06,072 --> 00:25:08,141 that's working for positive change. 658 00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:10,376 Um, in the end, I mean, a lot of those guys got fired, 659 00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:12,311 slinked away in shame, 660 00:25:12,411 --> 00:25:14,347 -didn't last long. -That's true. That's true. 661 00:25:14,447 --> 00:25:17,350 Um, and I think in many cases, my balls were bigger, and it... 662 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:19,852 -(laughter and applause) -In fact, actually... 663 00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:21,587 Actually, to that question, to that point, 664 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:24,323 let's talk about the guns. So, this is a moment. 665 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:25,825 You were an advisor to the president. 666 00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,593 This is what I find interesting. 667 00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:30,630 One of my... strangest moments, 668 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:31,964 even during the show, 669 00:25:32,064 --> 00:25:34,066 was when Donald Trump, President Donald Trump, 670 00:25:34,167 --> 00:25:35,434 came out and he said-- 671 00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:37,103 there was a-- there was a mass shooting and he said, 672 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:38,204 "You know what we need to do? 673 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:40,039 We need to rage-- raise the age limit." 674 00:25:40,139 --> 00:25:42,074 He said, "We need to ban assault rifles." 675 00:25:42,175 --> 00:25:44,343 He need-- He said, "You Republicans who don't want 676 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:45,912 to do it, you're scared of the NRA." 677 00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:47,947 He came out. He had all of these measures, 678 00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:49,749 which I said-- Even on the show, I was like, 679 00:25:49,849 --> 00:25:51,717 "This is amazing. This is fantastic." 680 00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:53,152 Many were shocked. 681 00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:54,921 But then we've learned recently 682 00:25:55,021 --> 00:25:56,923 that there were-- there were some of his insiders 683 00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:58,057 who convinced him-- I think, like, 684 00:25:58,157 --> 00:25:59,358 Mick Mulvaney was one of them-- who said, 685 00:25:59,459 --> 00:26:01,093 "Don't do it. You're gonna lose if you do it." 686 00:26:01,194 --> 00:26:02,962 And Trump said, "I don't care. We need to do this." 687 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,297 And he got convinced out of it. 688 00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:07,834 Now, I-I would love to know, from your perspective, 689 00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,436 how did his team convince him out of something when-- 690 00:26:10,536 --> 00:26:12,205 I mean, this was the man who-- Everyone said, "Don't-- 691 00:26:12,305 --> 00:26:13,573 You can't build a wall." He said, "I'm gonna go 692 00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:14,874 -and build this wall." You know? -Right. 693 00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:16,375 "You can't ban Muslims." He's like, "I'm gonna find a way 694 00:26:16,476 --> 00:26:18,344 to do it." How did they convince him-- 695 00:26:18,444 --> 00:26:21,380 What do we not know about the gun lobby and the gun world, 696 00:26:21,481 --> 00:26:23,649 that they managed to push Donald Trump away 697 00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:25,184 -from his initial position? -Well, respectfully, 698 00:26:25,318 --> 00:26:28,121 the premise is flawed. Because I was in those conversations, 699 00:26:28,221 --> 00:26:30,790 and he did talk about different measures. 700 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:33,426 But they didn't come to the... they didn't come to the Senate. 701 00:26:33,526 --> 00:26:35,328 They didn't come... They didn't reach his desk. 702 00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,130 A president has to sign into law things 703 00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:39,132 that the United States Congress has the guts to put there. 704 00:26:39,232 --> 00:26:41,134 And they did not... Now, I want... I also want to say this. 705 00:26:41,234 --> 00:26:43,136 -That's not always true, though. -I was there, 706 00:26:43,236 --> 00:26:45,171 um, for Parkland. I was there after the Parkland, 707 00:26:45,338 --> 00:26:47,673 -Valentine's Day 2018 murder. -Mm-hmm. And by the way, 708 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:49,142 I'm not blaming Trump, by the way. I'm just asking. 709 00:26:49,242 --> 00:26:50,510 No, no. And I want to answer you. 710 00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:51,911 I'm asking how he got shifted from his position. 711 00:26:52,011 --> 00:26:53,613 And then I flew with him to Santa Fe, Texas 712 00:26:53,713 --> 00:26:55,348 -when there was a shooting there. -Yeah. 713 00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:57,216 Eight children were killed, eight high schoolers 714 00:26:57,350 --> 00:27:00,620 and two teachers there, and what I learned the entire time 715 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,088 is that people are very quick 716 00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:03,790 to say it's this problem, it's that problem. 717 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:05,458 It's actually a spectrum. 718 00:27:05,558 --> 00:27:06,859 -You know, it's never one thing that causes it. -Completely. 719 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:08,461 And it's never one thing that can solve it. 720 00:27:08,561 --> 00:27:09,896 Right, but then, nothing gets done. 721 00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:13,065 So, nothing has gotten done, and again, if you've got 722 00:27:13,166 --> 00:27:15,034 a president that's been there 50 years, I hope he will 'cause 723 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,903 -he can say... -Wait. Joe Biden hasn't been there for 50 years. 724 00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:18,237 No, no, I hope he can. I know. 725 00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:19,806 -I know you're probably booing him. -But, no. 726 00:27:19,906 --> 00:27:21,340 -But no, no, no. Donald Trump was there. -I don't blame you. 727 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,142 Yeah. He does stink. All the polls say it. 728 00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:24,710 No, this is what I'm... I'm saying... 729 00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:28,181 I'm saying to you as an advisor, like, and I mean this honestly, 730 00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:29,782 -as a person... -'Cause you're playing Kellyanne Conway. 731 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,050 Like, you're not even a fan of the semicolon tonight. 732 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:32,652 -No, no, no, no. -I'm just listening. 733 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:35,388 What-what I'm saying to you is in the position that 734 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:37,590 you are in-- and the position that you may find yourself 735 00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:39,826 in again, because you-you do have the ear of many 736 00:27:39,926 --> 00:27:42,962 powerful Republicans, you do have, you know, you're in 737 00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:45,698 the rare position of speaking to Donald Trump and Mike Pence 738 00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:47,934 right now. You're one of the few people 739 00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:50,036 who is the connective tissue of many parts 740 00:27:50,136 --> 00:27:52,972 of the Republican party, both the old and the new, and so, 741 00:27:53,072 --> 00:27:55,741 Maybe I would ask you then-- as an advisor now-- what are 742 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:58,411 some of the common sense ideas that you think could be passed? 743 00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,012 'Cause I think these are moments that shouldn't be 744 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:01,614 Republican and Democrat, these are just children. 745 00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:02,882 Do you get what I'm saying? 746 00:28:02,982 --> 00:28:04,851 You just said the most important word here. 747 00:28:04,951 --> 00:28:06,819 I know people talk about guns and mental health 748 00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:09,088 and hardening the targets. I'm thinking through 749 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,023 the vantage point of the children, 750 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,860 and we should just start there on all of these matters, 751 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,162 and I learned that in listening to the Parkland families. 752 00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:18,397 I learned that after the Dayton shooter 753 00:28:18,498 --> 00:28:21,734 had his juvenile records were kept private, 754 00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:23,803 in other words his privacy versus the security 755 00:28:23,903 --> 00:28:26,806 of other people. I learned that when we looked at Parkland 756 00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:29,008 and you saw the FBI had visited many times 757 00:28:29,108 --> 00:28:30,376 and nobody ever did anything. 758 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:33,980 These, um, people, these madmen, these moral depravities, 759 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,749 evil people-- they usually broadcast their intention. 760 00:28:36,849 --> 00:28:38,417 They're bragging about "I want to be a school shooter, 761 00:28:38,518 --> 00:28:41,387 look at me." And so we should take that seriously. 762 00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:42,755 I mean, here, they say, 763 00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:43,923 "If you see something, say something." 764 00:28:44,023 --> 00:28:45,391 They mean a backpack in the subway. 765 00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,693 I think the people who are around these folks 766 00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:48,861 and are afraid of them 767 00:28:48,961 --> 00:28:50,096 and believe that they could do... 768 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:52,198 should feel free to go to the authority 769 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:53,432 under cover of privacy. 770 00:28:53,533 --> 00:28:55,735 Go to the authorities and report that. 771 00:28:55,835 --> 00:28:57,570 Here's what I think should happen with the children. 772 00:28:57,670 --> 00:29:00,907 You know, Trevor, if we just acted with the same gusto 773 00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:03,976 to protect our children from violence in the schools 774 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,578 that we did to protect them from the virus, 775 00:29:05,678 --> 00:29:06,813 which we should have done... 776 00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:09,081 Uh, we now have $112 billion 777 00:29:09,182 --> 00:29:11,184 in last year's American Rescue Plan 778 00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:15,087 in-in post-pandemic money for, um, for the schools. 779 00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:17,757 92% of it, according to the Wall Street Journal last week, 780 00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:19,091 is unspent. Why? 781 00:29:19,192 --> 00:29:20,660 Well, because they already did the ventilation. 782 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,361 They already did the stickers. We already did the masks. 783 00:29:22,462 --> 00:29:23,463 Now we're moving on to... 784 00:29:23,563 --> 00:29:24,764 It's earmarked for mental health. 785 00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:26,933 It's earmarked for more teachers and counselors. 786 00:29:27,033 --> 00:29:28,701 It's earmarked for lost learning. 787 00:29:28,801 --> 00:29:30,837 And we should be spending that money. 788 00:29:30,937 --> 00:29:32,705 It's $7 billion just here in New York City, 789 00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:34,540 the largest school district in the country, 790 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,177 and it's not spent yet because it expires in September 2024. 791 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:39,745 They're trying to figure out how to do it. 792 00:29:39,846 --> 00:29:41,714 Let's take that money. It's already been passed 793 00:29:41,814 --> 00:29:43,182 and approved by the president. 794 00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:45,084 Let's take that money and shift it over 795 00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:48,020 to keeping our kids safe in these schools. My goodness, 796 00:29:48,121 --> 00:29:50,056 -we keep athletes safe. -So, nothing on the side of guns? 797 00:29:50,156 --> 00:29:51,491 -Politicians safe. -No, I'm saying nothing on the side 798 00:29:51,591 --> 00:29:52,758 -of guns themselves? -No. No, of course not. 799 00:29:52,859 --> 00:29:54,193 19 states have red flag laws. 800 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:56,529 These states have taken action where Washington has not. 801 00:29:56,629 --> 00:29:57,997 In fact, the state of Florida, 802 00:29:58,097 --> 00:29:59,265 with a Republican state legislator, 803 00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:00,566 Republican Governor Rick Scott, 804 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:03,336 um, passed red flag laws after Parkland, Florida. 805 00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,538 So it is possible, as people are saying, 806 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:07,840 "Do something, say something," to do something. 807 00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:10,343 And I don't know what's going to happen in Congress. 808 00:30:10,409 --> 00:30:11,811 I'd like to feel more hopeful 809 00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,746 that people will come to their senses 810 00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:16,015 and think about how to keep these kids safe, 811 00:30:16,115 --> 00:30:17,817 because it should not be an occupational hazard 812 00:30:17,917 --> 00:30:20,186 for any child, um, to go to school 813 00:30:20,353 --> 00:30:22,789 and to fear for their lives, obviously, or their safety. 814 00:30:22,889 --> 00:30:25,258 But there are so many signs along the way, 815 00:30:25,358 --> 00:30:26,959 and people should feel free... 816 00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:29,362 Instead of judging everybody's social media posts 817 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,064 and-and calling everybody names and canceling people, 818 00:30:32,165 --> 00:30:33,232 why don't we say, 819 00:30:33,366 --> 00:30:37,370 "That person's slinging an AR-15 online, 820 00:30:37,403 --> 00:30:39,505 "saying he aspires to be a school shooter. 821 00:30:39,605 --> 00:30:41,440 "Half the class is afraid of him. 822 00:30:41,541 --> 00:30:43,376 why don't we do something about that." 823 00:30:43,476 --> 00:30:45,711 So, I think it's all that. And I-I was disappointed 824 00:30:45,812 --> 00:30:48,214 to hear Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, 825 00:30:48,381 --> 00:30:50,116 um, say last week, 826 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:52,385 "Don't give me that bullshit about mental health. 827 00:30:52,485 --> 00:30:54,387 "Uh, we don't have any more mental health problems 828 00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:55,755 than other countries." Excuse me. 829 00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:58,157 It is a big problem here. Maybe in other countries, too. 830 00:30:58,257 --> 00:30:59,892 But we have to look at that. 831 00:30:59,992 --> 00:31:01,327 We have to start investing in that. 832 00:31:01,394 --> 00:31:04,063 Um, so, yes, I believe in the case of Buffalo, 833 00:31:04,163 --> 00:31:05,731 there was a red flag should have been triggered, 834 00:31:05,832 --> 00:31:07,366 and the authorities did not do anything about it. 835 00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:08,634 The Buffalo shooter. 836 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:10,236 Um, here in Uvalde, 837 00:31:10,336 --> 00:31:12,205 this-this, um, murderer, 838 00:31:12,338 --> 00:31:14,607 who just recently turned 18, I believe, 839 00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:17,777 there were warning signs, and people were afraid of him, 840 00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:20,046 and they said he would, you know, torture cats 841 00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:21,848 and brag about, "I'm going to rape you. 842 00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:23,182 I'm going to be a school shooter." 843 00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,451 I think you have to take people like that seriously 844 00:31:25,551 --> 00:31:26,819 and not just look the other way. 845 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:28,988 So, there is a whole spectrum of solutions 846 00:31:29,088 --> 00:31:30,356 -that we should look at. -So, if I hear 847 00:31:30,456 --> 00:31:31,591 what you're saying correctly, in that situation, 848 00:31:31,691 --> 00:31:33,025 which I would agree with, 849 00:31:33,126 --> 00:31:35,027 is what you're saying is if you look at these red flags, 850 00:31:35,128 --> 00:31:36,529 if you look at these moments ahead of time, 851 00:31:36,629 --> 00:31:38,498 you can find reasons to restrict people 852 00:31:38,598 --> 00:31:40,900 from gaining access to guns because you're saying 853 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,002 we see that this is not conducive to society being safe. 854 00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:44,237 Right. Not everybody should have it, 855 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:45,705 because if you're operating a machine... 856 00:31:45,805 --> 00:31:47,273 -It's just like having a... -No, that we can agree on. 857 00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:48,708 I didn't think we'd have an agreement on the show. 858 00:31:48,808 --> 00:31:50,209 -Any other... -I didn't. 859 00:31:50,376 --> 00:31:51,811 -This is fantastic. -We agree on many things, believe... 860 00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,479 -I listen to you, and... -This is, uh... 861 00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:56,382 And, look, I... This country... I write in my book at the end... 862 00:31:56,449 --> 00:31:59,152 The-the, uh, the publisher, Simon & Schuster, 863 00:31:59,252 --> 00:32:01,521 the head there asked me, "Can you dig a little bit deeper 864 00:32:01,621 --> 00:32:03,723 and try to unify the country?" Like, sure, that sounds easy. 865 00:32:03,823 --> 00:32:05,892 And I did try. And one thing I said, 866 00:32:05,992 --> 00:32:07,760 I think, is incredibly important for us all to realize 867 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:10,530 is that, sure, we can talk about bipartisanship. 868 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:12,532 We can talk about finding common ground. 869 00:32:12,632 --> 00:32:14,133 I always think that's valuable. 870 00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:15,668 But we also need to realize 871 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:17,436 that not everybody in this country 872 00:32:17,537 --> 00:32:20,706 wants to wear the red or blue uniform 24-7, 365. 873 00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:22,642 We don't want politics in every conversation, 874 00:32:22,742 --> 00:32:24,877 collaboration, consideration. Every meal. 875 00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:27,847 Every conversation, um, at your place of worship 876 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:30,082 or your place of work and the kids' playground. 877 00:32:30,183 --> 00:32:32,118 You have... We have much more in common 878 00:32:32,218 --> 00:32:33,953 in this beautiful country filled with amazing people 879 00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:35,922 than people realize, but these cultural cleavages 880 00:32:36,022 --> 00:32:39,759 are very real, and we have to... we have to confront that, 881 00:32:39,859 --> 00:32:41,828 and we have to, I think, deal with it. 882 00:32:41,928 --> 00:32:44,430 And, look, if Donald Trump wants to be president again, it's... 883 00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:46,466 The simplest path is not to look backward. 884 00:32:46,566 --> 00:32:47,733 It's to run against Joe Biden. 885 00:32:47,834 --> 00:32:49,368 He can have a cage match rematch, 886 00:32:49,435 --> 00:32:51,370 and I think people will pay attention to that. 887 00:32:51,471 --> 00:32:52,672 -(laughter) -That's what he wants to do. 888 00:32:52,772 --> 00:32:55,608 That's-that's the smoothest, easiest path... 889 00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,910 That's the smoothest, easiest path 890 00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:59,545 if he really want to do that. 891 00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,881 But, um, but we have to also respect 892 00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:04,450 that the growing number of people in this country, 893 00:33:04,550 --> 00:33:07,553 they are upset with what's going on in Washington. 894 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:09,889 They feel excluded from the process, 895 00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:11,858 -excluded from the system. -Can I tell you what I think 896 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:13,559 happens in America that's particularly interesting 897 00:33:13,659 --> 00:33:16,329 is America is one of the few countries I've lived in 898 00:33:16,362 --> 00:33:19,065 where politicians complain 899 00:33:19,165 --> 00:33:21,701 about politics being a tool 900 00:33:21,801 --> 00:33:23,503 that should be used to change a country 901 00:33:23,603 --> 00:33:25,705 when they are in the position of changing the country. 902 00:33:25,805 --> 00:33:27,140 -They're in there. They love it. -Using their politics. 903 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,375 -That's right. Yes. Yes. -It's... It's been great 904 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:30,977 having you on the show. I could chat to you for hours. 905 00:33:31,077 --> 00:33:32,145 Unfortunately, we have the time that we have. 906 00:33:32,245 --> 00:33:33,646 Thank you very much for having me, sir. 907 00:33:33,746 --> 00:33:35,148 Thank you so much for joining me. Not many people would. 908 00:33:35,248 --> 00:33:36,649 Kellyanne's memoir Here's the Deal 909 00:33:36,749 --> 00:33:38,050 is available right now. We're gonna take a quick break. 910 00:33:38,151 --> 00:33:39,385 We'll be right back after this. 911 00:33:39,485 --> 00:33:40,553 (cheering and applause) 912 00:33:40,653 --> 00:33:42,355 Thank you very much for being here. 913 00:33:46,291 --> 00:33:48,193 (cheering and applause) 914 00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:49,561 Well, that's our show for tonight. 915 00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,696 But before we go, please consider donating 916 00:33:51,796 --> 00:33:53,464 to Everytown for Gun Safety. 917 00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:56,267 They're a movement of parents, students, survivors, 918 00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:58,570 educators, gun owners and concerned citizens 919 00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:01,940 fighting to end gun violence and build safer communities. 920 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,577 Research shows that commonsense public safety policies 921 00:34:05,677 --> 00:34:08,012 can reduce gun violence and save lives. 922 00:34:08,112 --> 00:34:10,481 Everytown works with local, federal and state governments 923 00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,483 to enact and implement those policies. 924 00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:14,619 So, if you can, please donate at the link below. 925 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,421 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. 926 00:34:16,521 --> 00:34:19,090 And remember, you don't need to stop a bad guy with a gun 927 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:20,892 if you don't let him get one in the first place. 928 00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:23,661 -Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. -(cheering and applause) 929 00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:25,663 ♪ ♪ 930 00:34:25,763 --> 00:34:29,234 My family and I were with President Trump, 931 00:34:29,334 --> 00:34:31,436 and even not liking germs, 932 00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:32,904 President Trump 933 00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:36,107 shared a bowl of popcorn 934 00:34:36,207 --> 00:34:38,443 with my 14-year-old son. 935 00:34:38,543 --> 00:34:40,578 (cheering and applause)