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A look at Rudy's legacy.
And Katie Couric.
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Thank you for coming out in person!
Thank you for being here, everybody!
Wow, this is gonna be fun. This is gonna be fun.
Take a seat. Let's do this.
We have got an exciting show for you tonight.
All your money is gone,
and we're gonna tell you where it went.
We'll get to know Rudy Giuliani over a few drinks.
And our guest tonight,
one of America's most admired journalists,
Katie Couric, is here to expose all the secrets of news
nobody knew.
So, let's do this, people.
Let's jump straight into today's headlines.
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Okay.
Let's kick things off with the big news from the stock market.
You know, the app that they pre-install on your phone
to make you feel dumb.
Since the stock market recovered from the COVID tumble in 2020,
Wall Street has been having a blast,
And the more stocks you owned, the better time you were having,
which is why Warren Buffett has got those new grills.
But, over the last year,
inflation has been rising.
The Federal Reserve has been raising interest rates
to cool the economy down.
And now it looks like the good times in the stock market
might be officially over.
All eyes on Wall Street once again this morning.
It was yesterday the stocks plummeting,
pushing the S&P 500 officially into bear market territory.
NEWSMAN: The Dow Jones Industrial's now 16% lower
for the year.
The tech- and biotech-heavy Nasdaq
down 30% year-to-date.
And the broader S&P index common in Americans' portfolios
sliding into bear market territory,
down 21% this year.
Real money that Americans invest to one day retire,
pay for kids' college or a new house.
The advice from most financial experts,
despite the high stress and the anxiety:
don't panic.
There's no need to panic.
The truth of the matter is don't panic.
(yelling)
(cheering and applause)
Sorry. What did they say?
I was, uh, too busy chugging that, uh,
comically large bottle of Xanax.
I'm not panicked, by the way. I'm just addicted to pills.
But, yes, people,
these are scary times for stocks,
because we are now officially in a bear market,
which is when people are so broke
they have to blow Paddington in a parking lot.
"Oh, heavens. Oh, heavens.
Oh, heavens!"
Obviously, I'm joking. I'm joking.
Paddington doesn't have a penis.
A bear market is basically when the S&P has dropped 20%
from its previous high,
which, for many, can be very stressful.
Yeah, right now, everyone who's looking at their E-Trade account
feels like the same way you look when, you know--
when you're looking at your ex's wedding photos on Instagram.
You're just like, "Why?
"Why do I keep looking?
"Why? Why am I--
"Aah! I hit 'like' by mistake! No!
"I liked it! Now I have to comment.
'I wish you all the best.'"
(crying)
But even if you don't own stocks,
a bear market is often a signal
that a recession might be coming,
and that affects everybody.
The economy slows down.
Unemployment goes up.
Africans become president.
And your mom starts buying the generic cereals
with the knock-off mascots. Yeah.
Terry the Tiger says,
"They're adequate!"
And-and, by the way, it's not just the stock market
that's falling right now. Yeah.
Crypto is crashing even harder,
with Bitcoin plummeting 67% from its high,
which I find really interesting.
Yeah.
Because for, like, the past ten years,
every single crypto bro I've met has told me
that crypto would protect me
when the mainstream economy failed.
Yeah, you heard them. They were everywhere.
Crypto people would act like you were the crazy one
for not investing your life savings
into a coin some Swedish teenager invented last week.
"Oh, you're not in Doggy Monkey coin? What a loser!"
(laughter)
You know what's even crazier is
that the crypto crowd is blaming Biden for this.
And look, no. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
You can blame a president for a lot of things--
inflation, unemployment,
not being able to cheer for your son Brandon
at a soccer game without it becoming a whole thing--
but you can't blame him for crypto. No.
My man, if an 80-year-old man
who doesn't even know what bitcoin is
can crash your crypto, then your crypto ain't shit!
(laughter)
I said it.
(applause and cheering)
Yeah.
I know you're mad that your Jenga tower fell down,
but that's what happens when you play Jenga.
'Cause remember, like, this is what they said to everybody.
They said, "Oh, the crypto is gonna save you from the market.
That's what crypto is. It protects you!"
They made it seem like it was a parachute
that would protect us all from the economy,
and then, now, the plane is crashing, and then,
it turns out, the parachute is attached to the plane.
(laughter)
You're like, "What is this?"
"Oh, it's all going down!"
But let's move on from that bad economic news
to some other bad economic news.
For two years now,
we have seen the global supply chain crisis impact everything,
from computers to cars to baby formula.
And by the way, why is there never a supply chain shortage
of bad stuff, you know?
There's never a shortage of, like, racist Halloween costumes.
You know? "But how will I get canceled now?"
But the latest shortage is hitting even closer home,
like, as close as you can get.
Now to the latest shortage
to hit our nation's store-- tampons.
Women are scrambling to find the products
as shelves are increasingly becoming bare.
It's the latest of the supply chain issues
to have a disproportionate impact on women.
The makers of Tampax and Playtex say
there's high demand and low supply.
It's reportedly stemming from a combination
of factory staffing problems, transportation logjams
and the rising cost of raw materials like plastics.
Companies like CVS and Target confirming
they are experiencing lower inventory.
Walgreens telling ABC News
they will have stock,
but there may only be certain brands available
while they navigate the supply disruption.
And prices for this essential item, Amy,
up nearly ten percent, according to Bloomberg.
That's right. The pandemic supply chain problems
have now led to a tampon shortage.
A massive tampon shortage.
And before we panic, before we panic,
I think we need to make sure
that this whole thing wasn't just started
by one dude's bullshit excuse for not picking up tampons.
You know. Just like, "Oh, sorry, babe.
"I tried, but there's, like, a whole supply chain issue.
"Yeah, it's, like, economy stuff.
You wouldn't understand. Yeah."
Because, look, this is actually a serious problem
because without tampons, like,
what will women dip into bowls of blue liquid?
Yeah, I know how women's bodies work.
I've seen it in the ads.
-I'm that guy. -(laughter)
By the way, did you catch how they tried
to blame the problem partly on women,
where they were like, "Due to high demand"?
-What does that mean? -(laughter)
No, but what is that?
-(applause and cheering) -"Due to high demand."
Because isn't the demand always pretty much the same?
-(laughter) -What has changed?
Like, is there, like, some viral get-your-period challenge
on TikTok right now? Due to high demand?
-Get the (bleep) out of here. -(laughter)
And this absolutely sucks.
I tell you now, this sucks for women.
(applause)
Guys don't have to go through this, but women do. It sucks.
I will tell you who is probably loving it right now, though,
is that one forgotten tampon that's been sitting
at the bottom of your bag for two years.
Well, well, well, Lisa.
I knew you'd come crawling back.
You spent two years
throwing T.J. Maxx receipts,
ChapStick and gum wrappers on top of me,
but look who's desperately digging around for me now.
That's right. You thought you were cool.
No, wait! Come back! Come back! I'm sorry.
Please, don't leave me here. The pennies are so mean to me!
All right.
Um, and finally, tonight, um, I wanted
to wish someone very special a happy birthday.
Um, actually, you guys can join me, if you don't mind.
-♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ -(audience joins in)
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
♪ Happy birthday ♪
-♪ President Donald Trump. ♪ -(audience groans)
It's too late! It's too late!
You wished him a happy birthday. You wished him a happy birthday.
All of you. Yeah. You made his day,
and you wished him a long life. He's here forever.
You guys did that.
Today is Donald Trump's 76th birthday.
(audience booing)
But it turns out--
He can't hear you.
(man boos)
You went louder?
Yeah, it is his birthday today, but it turns out
the haters can't even give the poor man a day off.
Because all week-- all week long, the January 6th committee
has been riding his ass just because
he tried to overthrow the government.
And now-- and now they're even accusing him of fraud
just because he asked his supporters for money
to set up an election defense fund
and then didn't set up an election defense fund.
And, yeah, that looks bad, but people don't realize that
some of the money went to really important causes.
NEWSWOMAN: Investigators claim that President Trump raised
over $250 million from supporters
to fight election fraud claims
but then funneled the money to himself and his allies,
including his son's fiancé, Kimberly Guilfoyle,
who was paid $60,000 for a two-minute speech
introducing Donald Trump, Jr. at the January 6th rally.
God damn.
Trump took some of the money that he said he was gonna use
to fight election fraud and paid his son's fiancé
$60,000
for a two-minute introduction speech.
Which is such a scam. I don't care what anyone says.
That's an even bigger scam than tai chi.
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, who are you gonna fight--
an army of slow butterflies? What is this?
Like, what is this, who are you fighting?
I will say, though, this does prove
that Donald Trump is a proud feminist ally.
Yeah, that's right, I said it.
Everyone's always complaining that women get paid less
for more work, but Trump--
no, he's doing everything to close the wage gap.
He paid Kimberly Guilfoyle for two minutes of work.
He paid Stormy Daniels for two minutes of work.
Yeah.
Trump isn't breaking the law, he's breaking the glass ceiling.
And in case you were wondering
what a $60,000 two-minute speech sounds like,
well, take a listen to some of the highlights.
Well, good morning, D.C.,
and good morning, America!
God-loving, freedom-loving,
liberty-loving patriots
that will not let them steal this election!
Thank you, President Trump!
Who stands for law enforcement!
For the Constitution!
And let's show the president when he comes
how much we love him!
God bless America! God bless our president!
And ladies and gentlemen, the best is yet to come.
NOAH: Okay.
Okay. Okay, no, no. No.
Now I understand. I understand it now.
She wasn't paid to speak for two minutes.
She was paid to stop speaking after two minutes.
That's what happened there.
"I can keep going longer!"
"No, no, here's your money. Here's your money.
"Just take the money. Take the money.
Take it all. Take it all."
(cheering and applause)
"Take it all."
Even the wind was like... (grumbles)
(chuckles)
Let's be honest, people. This was not a $60,000 speech.
I don't care which side you're on.
No good speech ends with Don Jr. coming out.
That's not a good speech.
And, you know, once again,
as much as people want to be angry at Donald Trump,
I feel like this is one of those instances
where he is the black light on America's democracy.
Because, you see, he didn't invent this scam.
Politicians from every party
use their campaign funds to enrich their friends.
It's just that Trump does it so egregiously
that everyone notices it.
All politicians are like, "Oh, donate. It's for the fund.
It's for this." But no one looks at where the money goes.
Yeah. It's-it's just something you pay attention to
because of how he does it.
It's the same way all of us
have eaten a grape or two at the grocery store.
(laughter)
But Trump's the guy who walks into Whole Foods
with a fork and knife, you know?
He's like, "You guys have the best raw chicken.
So good. So good."
All right, that's it for the headlines.
But before we go to a break,
it's time to check in on the weather forecast
with our very own Desi Lydic, everybody!
(cheering and applause)
Desi, so good to see you again.
So, what's the... what's the weather looking like?
Oh, Trevor, we're inside.
It doesn't matter.
You know, what does matter
is the fact that there's a tampon shortage.
I mean, I still have a source, but pretty soon,
my neighbor's gonna start noticing
that hers have gone missing.
-What? -Let me tell you, it is bad times for women.
I mean, no tampons?
And, Trevor, I know what you're gonna say.
"What about pads?"
-And... -And while I am grateful for you as a man
for trying to help solve this problem-- it's very cute--
but pads are off the table.
Okay? They're huge and obsolete.
They're like the iPhone 3 of feminine hygiene.
It's not gonna happen.
And I know what you're gonna say next.
"Desi, what about the DivaCup?"
-I didn't say that. -And, look, I know
that they are supposed to be great for the environment,
and I get it, but I just can't get on board.
A tampon, you take out, you never have to see it again.
But a DivaCup?
It's there every day.
Like, it remembers.
And it sees stuff, you know?
(laughter)
Anyway, also, why do they call it a DivaCup?
I do not feel like a diva
when I'm cleaning up a murder scene
in the work bathroom.
(laughter and applause)
-Awful. -That's a really good point.
If anything, they should call it the DexterCup.
(laughter)
Look, I think you and I both know
that there is only one way to solve this problem, okay?
And that's to free bleed.
-What? -Women... Yes.
Yes!
Women everywhere need to just start free bleeding.
Everywhere. And I mean everywhere.
I'm talking the subway,
your office chair,
happy hour at Applebee's...
Trust me, if we all do that,
men will stop ignoring this problem,
and it'll get solved in a week tops.
-Tops. -(cheering and applause)
I-I guess.
Yeah, because, let me tell you,
if there is one thing that freaks men out more than blood,
it's women's blood.
(laughter)
By the way, I've been talking for two minutes,
so you owe me 60 grand.
(cheering and applause)
Don't... We didn't talk about the weather,
-but thank you so much. Desi Lydic, everybody! -Yeah.
-(cheering and applause) -All right, don't go away,
'cause when we come back, you'll find out
the gritty origin story of Rudy Giuliani.
You don't want to miss it.
(cheering and applause)
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
One of the central figures in yesterday's January 6 hearing
was Rudy Giuliani,
the one man who didn't abandon President Trump's dreams
of reelection just because he had already lost the election.
But how did Giuliani become
the fearless ass-kisser we know today?
Well, that's the subject of our latest Daily Showography.
LYDIC: What makes a great leader?
Is it courage?
Compassion?
Charisma?
Or is it an integrity and confidence
that just leaks out of their pores?
A calming strength that drips from every orifice.
And the way they give their blood, sweat
and other bodily fluids to make the world a better place.
Since the 2016 election,
Rudy Giuliani has been a national leader,
spreading his patriotic message at political rallies...
Let's have trial by combat!
-...landscaping company parking lots... -(horn honks)
...and arenas across this great nation.
-America! -(cheering)
LYDIC: But how did he become the man
and/or man-like creature he is today?
This is the Daily Showography of Rudy Giuliani:
Oozing Greatness.
-(crying, screeching) -Rudolph William Louis Giuliani
was born in 1944
in East Flatbush, New York.
His father was an alleged mob enforcer
who did time at Sing Sing for armed robbery.
He would tell me,
never take anybody else's money,
make sure you always pay for things.
I mean, he wanted to make sure that I didn't...
make the same mistakes that he believed he had made.
LYDIC: It was an inspiring message from a father--
come up with your own original crimes.
And he would.
To keep Rudy away from New York City's criminal element,
the family moved to the suburbs.
GIULIANI: I can remember as a youngster
that my father would sometimes threaten me
with putting me in public schools
if my behavior didn't improve,
and that was a very frightening thought.
But I was a product of Catholic education.
And it instilled in me from a very early age
a desire to be a priest.
LYDIC: That's right. Giuliani almost became a man of the cloth
instead of a man of... sweaty handkerchiefs.
Ultimately, he chose not to pursue the priesthood,
deciding instead to marry his childhood sweetheart,
who also happened to be his second cousin.
And while, today, that may be seen as weird,
back then, it was seen as super gross.
After graduating law school, Giuliani began
his meteoric career, quickly rising
to the third highest position
at President Reagan's Justice Department.
He was the youngest person ever to hold the job,
but he was already sporting the combover
of a man twice his age.
Soon, Rudy was U.S. Attorney
for the Southern District of New York.
Rudy wasn't afraid to take on criminals or to give lots
of press conferences about how he took on criminals.
GIULIANI: Well, I think, uh, five or six or seven years ago,
nobody would have believed it was possible
to convict the head of the Sicilian mafia and
have him sitting in the Metropolitan Correction Center.
LYDIC: He loved the camera, and the camera
just wanted to be friends.
But soon, taking credit for arrests wasn't enough.
He had to pretend to make the arrests himself.
I bought crack.
I had a female D.E.A. agent
who was, like, theoretically my date,
and we went up, and we purchased crack in Washington Heights.
LYDIC: Now that's what I call going undercover.
Tell me you don't think he smoked crack
before picking out that outfit.
With his crimefighting career burning hotter
than totally normal lust between second cousins,
Rudy set his sights on elected office.
He first ran for mayor of New York in 1989,
but he didn't quite have the name recognition
he needed to win.
GEORGE H.W. BUSH: I would like to commend
Republican candidate Rudolph
Gia-Gia... Giaulani. Rudy.
-(laughter) -Sorry about that.
LYDIC: Wow. Tough break for Rudy Geo... philly... uni.
Four years later, Rudy tried again, and this time,
he had the perfect foil to rally his voters against--
New York's first Black mayor.
Denouncing David Dinkins as soft on crime,
Giuliani led off-duty police officers
in a peaceful protest.
-ALL: He's got to go! -NEWSMAN: And then, minutes later,
thousands of cops stormed through the barricades
and ran on top of cars
as they charged the stairs of city hall.
LYDIC: Okay, it was a peaceful-ish protest.
At least hyping up a crowd to storm a government building
would be good practice for him.
So, through sheer charisma, and just a little hint
of police intimidation,
he finally became Mayor Geohani.
Sorry. Giuliani.
Over the next decade, Giuliani took New York City
from a gutter toilet of violence and sex and piss
and turned it into a clean and safe utopia
with ample magazine jobs that allowed young women
to live in giant apartments
with walk-in closets and so many shoes.
Under Giuliani, the New York Police Department
pioneered some of the most iconic anti-crime tactics
of the era, like stop and frisk.
Broken windows policing.
Sexual assault with a broom handle.
And shooting an innocent guy so many times
Bruce Springsteen wrote a song about it.
♪ 41 shots ♪
♪ Lena gets her son ready for school ♪
LYDIC: And Giuliani didn't just go after criminals,
he went after all poor people
in the most hilarious ways.
Look at you-- lying there like that.
Don't you have any dignity?
Lying on your butt all day collecting welfare?
(growling)
LYDIC: Yeah, I think he was still buying crack.
Giuliani was bringing glamour back to New York City.
And if he was making a few enemies,
he was also making some good friends.
You know, you're really beautiful.
(high-pitched): Oh, you dirty boy, you, oh, oh.
LYDIC: Finally, Rudy found a disguise
that managed to fool someone dumber than a crack dealer.
By now, Giuliani was ready to shake things up.
He dumped his second wife at press conference
without telling her first.
In many ways, we've, um, grown-grown to live
independent and separate lives.
LYDIC: Leaving her to respond with own statement
about how he was a cheating ho.
For several years, it was difficult to participate
in Rudy's public life because of his relationship
with one staff member.
LYDIC: Rudy moved out of the mayor's mansion
and crashed with some friends--
a gay couple and their pet shih tzu--
while running a losing Senate race against Hillary Clinton.
Honestly, his life was a lot simpler
when he was just banging his cousin.
And then, just as his term was coming to an end,
Rudy Giuliani found himself right where he needed to be.
Tomorrow, um, New York is gonna be here
and we're gonna rebuild
and we're gonna be stronger than we were before.
9/11 gave Rudy his big promotion to America's mayor.
-GIULIANI: America! -LYDIC: And that's
when the party started.
DAVID LETTERMAN: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome,
uh, Mayor of New York City, the Honorable Rudolph Giuliani.
(crowd chanting): Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
LYDIC: Yes, no one rose to greater prominence
after 9/11 than Rudy Giuliani, except maybe bin Laden.
By 2008, Giuliani was finally confident enough
to admit he was bald and to make a play
for the highest office in the land.
NEWSWOMAN: Rudy is in. America's mayor
now wants to be America's president.
LYDIC: Anyway, he came in sixth in Iowa
and was out of the race by February.
By the time the 2016 election year came around,
Giuliani had realized he didn't need to be president.
He could just be friends with one.
It was a win-win friendship.
Trump gave Rudy the power he was longing for,
and Rudy made Trump look attractive by comparison.
As Trump's BFF, Rudy was really going places,
even if he didn't always seem to know where he was.
From the top to the bottom,
from the middle to the side.
LYDIC: The next four years were a whirlwind of campaigning,
lawyering, cheerleading,
extorting, treasoning and insurrectioning.
By the time it was over, Giuliani lost his law license,
several gallons of hair dye,
a variety of electronic devices seized by the FBI
and most of all, his dignity.
Hi. It's Rudy Giuliani, and I'm on Cameo.
In a pay-for-play scheme!
LYDIC: But Rudy is still oozing on,
enjoying life to the fullest.
Maybe even too much.
I don't think I've ever done an interview drunk.
I-I have, uh, sometimes... I mean, I drink normally.
I like Scotch. I drink Scotch.
NEWSWOMAN: So you do not believe
that you have a drinking problem?
(chuckles): I... No, I don't only believe it. I know I'm not.
I know Prince Andrew is very, uh, questionable now.
I never went out with him.
Ever.
Never. Never had a drink with him.
Never was with a woman or a young girl with him.
Ever, ever, ever.
One time, I met him in my office,
and one time when we had the party.
Right, Bernie? You were there.
LYDIC: Yes, whether he's standing tall through 9/11
or a blood alcohol level of .911,
Rudy Giuliani is a born leader
making his mark wherever he goes,
one that no stain remover can ever take away.
(cheering and applause)
All right, when we come back, Katie Couric
will be joining on the show, so don't go away.
(cheering and applause)
My guest tonight
is one of the most prominent journalists in America.
She's here to talk about the news, business,
information, misinformation,
and her best-selling memoir, Going There.
Please welcome Katie Couric!
-♪ ♪ -(cheering and applause)
Welcome. Welcome to the show.
-Hello. -Katie Couric,
-welcome to The Daily Show. -I've learned--
I-I have two observations.
I've never been so happy to have gone through menopause.
-(laughing) -And, uh...
-Oh, wow. -And I need to get in touch...
I need to get in touch
with Kimberly Guilfoyle's speaker bureau.
-Right? -Right?
-Two minutes, $60,000? -Wow.
-That-that's quite a thing. -Yeah, it was riveting,
-as we saw. -(laughs)
Let's talk about the book. Going There.
You take us through so many aspects of being Katie Couric.
You talk us through your eating disorders.
You talk us through sexism in the news business and in media.
You talk us through the-the difficulties of news
and understanding what your role is
-and your responsibilities as a journalist. -Right.
That's what I liked. You know, we-we live in a world where,
these days, people are afraid to be human.
People are afraid to-to show their flaws,
-to show... -Or mit-- admit their mistakes,
-you know? -Exactly. And...
Y-You know, one of the-the most vulnerable moments
in this book is when you're talking about your interview
with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
And you talk about how, in the-- in the-- in an interview,
you sat down with her,
you asked her about Colin Kaepernick,
and she basically s--
You said what is her opinion,
and-and, to paraphrase, she basically said,
"I think what he's doing is dumb and-and...
-irresponsible"? Yeah. -Yeah. Disgusting or-- Yeah.
And you now had to decide whether or not
to put that in the interview after her team called
and said she misunderstood the question.
-Yeah. -Talk me-- talk me through a moment like that.
Because you're a journalist.
You are presenting to the public what has happened,
but you also have this responsibility
-to present what has happened in the most accurate way. -Right.
How-how do you find that balance?
So, I was interviewing her about a book she had written.
So, generally, when you're doing that, and
when you have the opportunity to actually talk
to a Supreme Court justice, you try to think of,
is there any news of day that you can get their reaction to.
So, you know, you have to kind of slip those in
because that's really not what you're there
to talk to her about.
So I was interested in hearing her views
about Colin Kaepernick.
So I said, "What do you think about it?"
And I think what people misunderstood
who reported about this is,
I put in about two minutes of her response.
You know, you have these ethical dilemmas,
and people, you know, make judgments on a regular basis.
-Right. Right. -They just don't talk about them
-transparently, as I was willing to do. -Right.
And so, I remember feeling, "Gosh, what is my obligation?
Should I use everything?"
Should I be careful because part of it was confusing,
-and I wasn't sure what she meant? -Yeah.
So I made a decision, and I still wonder
if I made the right decision.
In retrospect, I probably just should have put
the entire statement out and let people come
to the conclusion they wanted to.
As it was, her office had to issue an apology.
-So it's not like I didn't run any of it. -Yeah.
And I think I wrote about it because I still question
if I did the right thing.
And I think that's something
that, if journalists talked more openly
about the decision-making process
and how they approach a subject,
it would be more transparent
and it would be more helpful, I think, to the public.
What do you think changed over the years,
in America, specifically?
Because you were part of a generation
who was reporting on the news. You were making these decisions.
And yet, there wasn't an erosion of trust in the media
and in the news because of these decisions.
And yet, now, it seems like everyone doesn't believe
that there is any good intention behind any journalist
in what they're choosing to cover.
What do you think changed?
Well, I think it's the proliferation of media outlets.
I think it's more agenda-driven news organizations
that are focused in using commentary instead of reporting.
Now, if you look at cable and prime time,
-it's-it's commentary. -Right. Yes.
It's not reporting the facts, it's not like watching the BBC
or PBS NewsHour.
It's people expressing their opinions.
And so I think that has eroded trust in the media.
Plus, anybody in their basement can throw things on social media
and-and-- and then it can basically
just spread like wildfire, and they say what-- uh,
when it comes to disinformation,
uh, a lie goes around the world in a nanosecond
while the truth doesn't even have time to tie its shoes.
When-when you look at your journey,
you've gone back into journalism in a different way.
For instance, on your podcast, you know, you've been
covering really in-depth stories
about the-the-- the diminishing access to health care
-for many women around the country. -Right.
Obviously, thanks to, you know, abortion restrictions
-around the U.S. as a whole. -Yeah.
Why did you go back into it and what are you
trying to reveal to Americans they may not already know?
So, I just did a six-part podcast that's being dropped
in the next-- uh, the second one is being dropped tomorrow on--
called "Abortion: The Body Politic."
I feel like there's so much information
coming at us fast and furiously.
I've always, uh, really appreciated the opportunity
to connect the dots and let people understand
sort of the arc of history and how we got where we are,
and those are the things
I'm just really passionate about.
And with modern media, you know, you can say all you want
about social media and the ills of social media,
but it does allow you to, like brands do,
-direct to consumer access. -Yes.
So, like, when January 6th happened, I called Mary Trump.
I think I was the first if not, you know,
I was one of the first, if not the first,
interviews she did, and it's gotten, like,
well over three million views on social media.
So disintermediation, as they call it,
allows me to just go directly to news consumers
without working for "The Man."
And-- and, basically, you know,
being the boss of me, and if I want to talk to someone,
Trevor, for a half an hour, even 45 minutes,
an hour about gun violence
and why nothing has been done to reduce gun violence
in this country, I can do it.
I'm 65 years old. I'm the boss of me.
I run my own show, and I can speak out
about the need for sensible gun laws,
and I can be an activist.
And everyone should be an activist...
(cheering and applause)
...before...
before they have a fourth grader
killed in his or her class
or before they have a grandparent
-killed buying a quart of milk. -Right.
-Right? -Speak out before as opposed to afterwards.
Yeah. So, I feel incredibly liberated
doing what I'm doing,
and I have a daily newsletter
that, uh, you know, I can turn my lens
on the issues that I think are important
and really talk about them.
So, I'm having a ball, basically.
-(cheering and applause) -(chuckles)
You can feel it in the book. You can see it in your smile.
-Thank you so much for joining me on the show. -Yeah.
-Great to see you. -Congratulations on everything.
-Thank you, Trevor. -There's everything.
There's the podcast, there's the book,
the-the Instagram Lives.
Katie's memoir Going There
comes out in paperback June 28th,
and be sure to check out the podcast, as well.
We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back
-after this. -(cheering and applause)
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MAN: There's an important decision
in New York's race for governor.
Okay, Mr. Astorino, what's your favorite smell?
MAN: Can you smell what the gov is cooking?
-Smell? -KRAMER: Smell.
My wife's hair.
MAN: That's what a psychopath would say.
You know what? I think it's that fresh dew in the morning
when you walk outside.
MAN: Wake up and smell the bullshit.
This stinks to high heaven.
Victory. November 8th.
MAN: "Victory"? What a dick.
-My wife's perfume. -MAN: Also super creepy.
Smell you later, candidates.