1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:02,035 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:02,135 --> 00:00:03,537 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from New York City, 3 00:00:03,637 --> 00:00:05,472 the only city in America, 4 00:00:05,572 --> 00:00:07,207 it's The Daily Show! 5 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:08,876 Tonight, 6 00:00:08,976 --> 00:00:11,879 TikTok is working for China. 7 00:00:11,979 --> 00:00:14,281 Pride Month sells out. 8 00:00:14,381 --> 00:00:16,783 And Katy Tur! 9 00:00:16,884 --> 00:00:21,154 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 10 00:00:21,255 --> 00:00:23,290 -♪ ♪ -(cheering and applause) 11 00:00:35,702 --> 00:00:36,870 What's going on, everybody?! 12 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:38,405 Welcome to The Daily Show! I'm Trevor Noah! 13 00:00:38,505 --> 00:00:39,540 Thank you so much for tuning in! 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,708 Thank you for coming out in person! 15 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:44,044 Thank you so much! Wow! 16 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:45,579 This feels amazing! 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Take a seat, take a seat. 18 00:00:48,115 --> 00:00:50,551 We have got a jam-packed show for you tonight. 19 00:00:50,651 --> 00:00:52,119 So much news. 20 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:55,189 President Biden has declared a war on gravity, 21 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:57,191 corporations are gay for Pride, 22 00:00:57,291 --> 00:01:00,961 and someone special is following all of you on TikTok. 23 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,262 So, let's do this, people. 24 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:04,531 Let's jump straight into today's headlines. 25 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:06,667 ♪ ♪ 26 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:12,239 All right. 27 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:15,142 Let's kick things off with TikTok, 28 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:17,177 the world's biggest social media site 29 00:01:17,277 --> 00:01:19,079 and the app that proves Americans 30 00:01:19,112 --> 00:01:21,615 can read subtitles just fine when they want to. 31 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:22,883 Yeah. 32 00:01:22,983 --> 00:01:24,451 Hundreds of millions of people around the world 33 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:26,286 use TikTok every day. 34 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:27,821 Because, I mean, what else are you gonna do 35 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:29,289 while you're pooping, right? 36 00:01:29,389 --> 00:01:32,426 But what many TikTok users might not realize 37 00:01:32,526 --> 00:01:35,495 is TikTok is owned by a Chinese company. 38 00:01:35,596 --> 00:01:36,997 And now we're finding out 39 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:39,466 that while you're watching videos of people dancing, 40 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:41,635 China might be watching you. 41 00:01:41,735 --> 00:01:44,505 Leaked audio from social media company TikTok's 42 00:01:44,605 --> 00:01:46,740 internal meeting suggests that Beijing 43 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,110 has repeatedly accessed data from users here in the U.S. 44 00:01:50,143 --> 00:01:51,245 NEWSWOMAN: The recording suggests 45 00:01:51,345 --> 00:01:53,714 that TikTok is falling down on its promise 46 00:01:53,814 --> 00:01:57,184 to wall off Americans' data from its Chinese parent company, 47 00:01:57,284 --> 00:01:58,685 with one of the app's researchers 48 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:00,320 telling colleagues... 49 00:02:04,057 --> 00:02:05,492 Oh, no. 50 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:07,961 China's secretly watching all of us on TikTok? 51 00:02:08,061 --> 00:02:10,297 Now they're gonna know our money doesn't jiggle, jiggle-- 52 00:02:10,397 --> 00:02:11,899 it folds! 53 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:15,202 But, yeah, based on these audio leaks, 54 00:02:15,302 --> 00:02:17,871 it looks like TikTok's parent company in China 55 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:21,475 actually does have access to our private data, 56 00:02:21,575 --> 00:02:23,076 which means the Chinese government 57 00:02:23,177 --> 00:02:26,079 probably has access to our private data. 58 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:27,514 Which is scary, 59 00:02:27,614 --> 00:02:29,783 'cause TikTok knows everything about you. 60 00:02:29,883 --> 00:02:32,452 Yeah. It tracks what you watch, what you like, 61 00:02:32,553 --> 00:02:34,721 and then it only shows you that stuff. 62 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:36,957 Like, if you asked me to see my "For You" page, 63 00:02:37,090 --> 00:02:38,625 I'd be like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too personal." 64 00:02:38,725 --> 00:02:39,626 Yeah. 65 00:02:39,726 --> 00:02:41,628 Just look at my nudes instead. 66 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:44,831 Actually, that's a mini Coke. 67 00:02:44,932 --> 00:02:46,366 And that's why, if you remember, 68 00:02:46,466 --> 00:02:49,102 Donald Trump was trying to ban TikTok a couple of years ago. 69 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:50,604 Right? Because the U.S. government realized 70 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:54,241 that China could use this as a tool to influence Americans 71 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:55,509 and also because Eric kept trying 72 00:02:55,609 --> 00:02:56,577 to send him friend requests. 73 00:02:56,677 --> 00:02:58,445 And, you know, it's a little crazy 74 00:02:58,545 --> 00:03:00,180 how we're so hooked on social media 75 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,182 that governments don't even need to steal our data anymore. 76 00:03:02,282 --> 00:03:03,917 Right? We'll just give it to them. 77 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:06,253 Like, back in the day, they'd have to hack into a database 78 00:03:06,353 --> 00:03:08,255 or break into the Social Security Building. 79 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:10,591 Now we're just giving it to them for free. 80 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:12,059 And I blame myself. Yeah. 81 00:03:12,092 --> 00:03:13,493 I'm part of this problem. 82 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:17,364 I also took part in that Personal Information Challenge. 83 00:03:17,464 --> 00:03:19,499 ♪ ♪ 84 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:44,091 That was a big mistake. 85 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:45,626 I hope I go viral. 86 00:03:46,927 --> 00:03:48,161 All right, let's move on 87 00:03:48,262 --> 00:03:49,963 from all the data that you're putting into TikTok 88 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:53,333 to all the data that's coming out of the January 6 hearings, 89 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:55,469 the investigation that will somehow result 90 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:57,738 in less punishment than the Oscars slap. 91 00:03:57,838 --> 00:04:01,275 Last week, we learned mostly about how Trump knew 92 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:02,643 that he had lost. 93 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:06,480 Then we learned about how Mike Pence almost got hanged. 94 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:09,249 And today's session was all about how President Trump 95 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:12,352 and his allies tried to pressure state officials 96 00:04:12,452 --> 00:04:14,154 to sign on to his various schemes 97 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:15,522 for overturning the election, 98 00:04:15,622 --> 00:04:18,058 everything from throwing out Biden votes 99 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:20,794 to creating slates of fake electors 100 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:22,596 to even eating the Constitution really fast 101 00:04:22,696 --> 00:04:25,432 before anyone could look up the election laws. 102 00:04:25,532 --> 00:04:28,068 And one of the people Trump depended on most 103 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:30,404 in this pressure campaign was Rudy Giuliani, 104 00:04:30,504 --> 00:04:32,406 his personal lawyer 105 00:04:32,506 --> 00:04:35,075 and final boss in a Resident Evil game. 106 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:40,814 Unfortunately, it seemed like no one wanted to take Rudy's calls. 107 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:42,883 Pennsylvania House Speaker Bryan Cutler 108 00:04:42,983 --> 00:04:45,152 received daily voice mails from Trump's lawyers 109 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:47,321 in the last week of November. 110 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:05,038 Cutler felt that the outreach was inappropriate 111 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:08,108 and asked his lawyers to tell Rudy Giuliani to stop calling, 112 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:10,811 but Giuliani continued to reach out. 113 00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:13,881 I understand that you don't want to talk to me now. 114 00:05:19,386 --> 00:05:21,955 Oh, wow. That's desperate. 115 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:24,057 Yeah, Rudy made so many unanswered calls, 116 00:05:24,157 --> 00:05:26,894 the iPhone just started labeling him as spam. Yeah. 117 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:30,531 And not just his calls. His body. It's 90% spam. 118 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:34,067 And can we acknowledge what a fall this has been? Huh? 119 00:05:34,168 --> 00:05:36,970 This man went from being an American hero 120 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:40,474 to now sounding like a telemarketer selling a coup. 121 00:05:40,574 --> 00:05:42,376 "If you order now, I'll throw in that chair 122 00:05:42,476 --> 00:05:44,545 "Abraham Lincoln is sitting on. Yeah. 123 00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:46,747 Hello? Hello? Hello?" 124 00:05:46,847 --> 00:05:49,316 And you know, this is just another example 125 00:05:49,416 --> 00:05:51,618 of how historic President Trump really was. 126 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:53,954 Any other time in U.S. history 127 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:57,090 if the president's lawyer called someone, 128 00:05:57,191 --> 00:05:58,559 they would take that call. 129 00:05:58,659 --> 00:06:01,728 But when Trump's vampire lawyer called people, 130 00:06:01,828 --> 00:06:04,031 everyone was, like, "Tell him I'm not here! 131 00:06:04,097 --> 00:06:06,166 "Yeah, tell him I went camping, and I died! 132 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:07,568 "A bear. A bear ate my face. 133 00:06:07,668 --> 00:06:09,770 Tell him I'm not here!" 134 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:12,840 Also, not that I'm encouraging it, 'cause I'm not, 135 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:17,044 but if you are going to try and overturn an election, 136 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:19,046 maybe don't leave voice mails? 137 00:06:19,146 --> 00:06:21,348 (laughter) 138 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:23,050 It's a paper trail. 139 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:25,319 Also, it's 2022. Text. 140 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:26,887 Who leaves voice mails? 141 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:28,689 You realize how thirsty you're coming off? 142 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:30,357 (voice breaking): "Hey, it's me again." 143 00:06:30,457 --> 00:06:32,059 (laughter) 144 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:33,360 Come on, Rudy. 145 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:35,062 Just hit 'em with a quick late-night, 146 00:06:35,162 --> 00:06:36,864 "You up? For subverting democracy?" 147 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:40,133 Eggplant emoji, red hat emoji, vampire emoji. 148 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:42,135 -(laughter) -Come on, Rudy. 149 00:06:42,236 --> 00:06:44,171 (applause and cheering) 150 00:06:44,271 --> 00:06:47,441 Keep up with the times! 151 00:06:47,541 --> 00:06:49,309 All right, but let's move on. 152 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,645 It has now been almost a month 153 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,248 since the tragic school shooting in Uvalde. 154 00:06:54,348 --> 00:06:56,683 And while shootings like this are always traumatic, 155 00:06:56,783 --> 00:06:58,952 this particular one has been made worse 156 00:06:59,086 --> 00:07:02,189 by how the police in Uvalde have responded, right? 157 00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:05,859 They didn't go in, they waited for an hour, and then, 158 00:07:06,026 --> 00:07:08,862 they even stopped parents from trying to save their own kids. 159 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:11,031 And if that wasn't bad enough, they've been trying 160 00:07:11,064 --> 00:07:15,669 to block information about that day from coming out. 161 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:18,639 And each time, more information comes out, 162 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:20,440 we learn why. 163 00:07:20,541 --> 00:07:22,709 NEWSWOMAN: This morning, the first surveillance image 164 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:25,145 from inside Robb Elementary emerges. 165 00:07:25,245 --> 00:07:27,481 The photo showing multiple police officers 166 00:07:27,581 --> 00:07:29,750 standing inside the building with rifles, 167 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:32,052 and at least one ballistic shield, 168 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:34,421 19 minutes after the gunman entered. 169 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:38,525 This despite school police chief Pete Arredondo's original claim 170 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:40,827 that the officers weren't properly armed 171 00:07:40,928 --> 00:07:43,330 to take down the gunman at that point. 172 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:46,600 Officers didn't enter the classroom and kill the shooter 173 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,869 until 58 minutes later. 174 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:52,072 The state's director of public safety, Steven McCraw, 175 00:07:52,105 --> 00:07:53,974 testifying before lawmakers, 176 00:07:54,074 --> 00:07:56,343 blasting law enforcement's response 177 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:58,111 as his department's investigation 178 00:07:58,212 --> 00:08:01,248 uncovers new evidence about the massacre. 179 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:02,883 He says officers were waiting for keys to enter, 180 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:06,320 but investigators finding the door couldn't be locked 181 00:08:06,420 --> 00:08:07,721 from the inside and saying 182 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:10,390 that officers never even tried opening it. 183 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:13,794 Yeah, you know, this story just keeps getting worse and worse. 184 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:15,495 Every single time we learn something, 185 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:16,830 it gets worse and worse. 186 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:18,932 We already knew that they waited far too long 187 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:20,400 to confront the shooter. 188 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:22,269 But now, we found out that they lied 189 00:08:22,369 --> 00:08:24,805 about not having enough weapons to go in. 190 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:26,540 Because it turns out, they had assault rifles, 191 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,042 they had body armor and ballistic shields. 192 00:08:29,142 --> 00:08:30,777 So I'm sorry. What were they waiting for-- 193 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:33,113 the invisible star from Mario? What was that? Huh? 194 00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:35,048 Get the (bleep) in the room! 195 00:08:35,148 --> 00:08:37,317 Like, how did they not go in? You know? 196 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:39,119 Which is, by the way, another thing that we've learned. 197 00:08:39,219 --> 00:08:41,388 They didn't even try to get in the classroom. 198 00:08:41,488 --> 00:08:42,789 They didn't even try. 199 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:44,892 They told everyone that they had to wait 200 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:46,960 for a key because the door was locked, 201 00:08:47,060 --> 00:08:48,662 but the door wasn't locked. 202 00:08:48,762 --> 00:08:51,365 They just never tried to open it? 203 00:08:51,465 --> 00:08:54,468 Which-which is ridiculous. Even people waiting outside, 204 00:08:54,568 --> 00:08:56,970 like, a locked bathroom at Starbucks will jiggle the handle 205 00:08:57,070 --> 00:09:01,008 after two minutes, just to be sure-sure. They'll try. 206 00:09:01,108 --> 00:09:02,309 But it turns out these cops couldn't do, what-- 207 00:09:02,409 --> 00:09:04,845 like, what-what the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park 208 00:09:05,012 --> 00:09:06,647 took five minutes to learn-- they couldn't do that? 209 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:08,815 Just that? 210 00:09:08,916 --> 00:09:10,651 And you know what's insane about this whole story 211 00:09:10,751 --> 00:09:12,319 is how the one time-- the one time it would have been 212 00:09:12,419 --> 00:09:14,521 appropriate to go in guns blazing, 213 00:09:14,621 --> 00:09:16,924 the cops decide to have a picnic outside. Yeah. 214 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:19,226 But if you're Black or you have a broken taillight-- 215 00:09:19,326 --> 00:09:21,195 oh, then, all of a sudden, they go all Rambo on your ass. 216 00:09:21,295 --> 00:09:24,031 "Aah! We're coming in! We're coming in!" 217 00:09:24,131 --> 00:09:26,099 It's another reminder that you-you can't just 218 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,035 trust what the police say. 219 00:09:28,135 --> 00:09:30,037 Like, this is one of the clearest reminders. 220 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:32,072 Yes, they're police. Yes, you respect them. 221 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:33,407 But it doesn't mean you just trust 222 00:09:33,507 --> 00:09:37,077 every single thing that they say after an incident. 223 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:40,614 Journalists shouldn't be reporting what the police said, 224 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:42,749 they should be investigating what actually happened. 225 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:45,719 Because time and time again, time and time again, 226 00:09:45,819 --> 00:09:49,356 -(cheering, applause) -we learn that cops in America-- 227 00:09:49,456 --> 00:09:52,192 they basically use the same principle as toddlers. 228 00:09:52,292 --> 00:09:54,127 They'll tell the truth, 229 00:09:54,228 --> 00:09:55,796 but only if it doesn't get them in trouble. 230 00:09:55,896 --> 00:09:59,066 "No, Mommy, the cookies tried to eat me. I was just responding. 231 00:09:59,132 --> 00:10:01,268 "And, no, my body camera wasn't working. 232 00:10:01,368 --> 00:10:02,903 Yeah, I turned it off." 233 00:10:04,071 --> 00:10:07,174 All right, finally, let's move on to some lighter news. 234 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:09,276 A lot of exciting stuff happened this weekend. 235 00:10:09,376 --> 00:10:11,311 Drake dropped a surprise new album. 236 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:14,615 Beyoncé dropped a new single. 237 00:10:14,715 --> 00:10:17,217 And, not to be outdone, 238 00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:19,686 President Biden had a drop of his own. 239 00:10:19,786 --> 00:10:21,421 A scare for President Biden today 240 00:10:21,522 --> 00:10:24,391 when he fell off his bicycle in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. 241 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:27,261 The 79-year-old was stopping to talk to reporters 242 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:30,197 when you see there his foot got caught in the pedal guard 243 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:32,266 as he was dismounting his bike. 244 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:34,268 He quickly got to his feet. 245 00:10:34,368 --> 00:10:36,069 Later, on his way out of church, 246 00:10:36,170 --> 00:10:38,872 the president repeated that he was doing just fine 247 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,042 and hopped in place several times to prove it. 248 00:10:45,712 --> 00:10:48,615 Oh, President Biden. 249 00:10:48,715 --> 00:10:51,285 That-that's just embarrassing. 250 00:10:51,385 --> 00:10:53,954 He was just standing, 251 00:10:54,054 --> 00:10:56,223 and the bike fell over. 252 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:57,791 And, you know, it's actually too bad, 253 00:10:57,891 --> 00:10:59,393 because before he fell over, 254 00:10:59,493 --> 00:11:00,761 he was looking kind of good. Yeah. 255 00:11:00,861 --> 00:11:02,496 All of us were like, "Wow, look at him 256 00:11:02,596 --> 00:11:04,932 riding that bike. And he's 80 years old?" 257 00:11:05,065 --> 00:11:06,567 And then he stops and falls, and we're like, 258 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:09,102 "Oh, yeah. 259 00:11:09,203 --> 00:11:12,706 He's 80 years old. He's 80 years old." 260 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:16,376 And, you know, it's not just the falling off of the bike 261 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:19,213 that isn't moving, but it's the fact that he thought that 262 00:11:19,313 --> 00:11:21,682 hopping was gonna reassure Americans 263 00:11:21,782 --> 00:11:23,283 that he's still got it. You know? 264 00:11:23,383 --> 00:11:25,586 That little-- No, 'cause you can see-- you can see, 265 00:11:25,686 --> 00:11:28,088 when he was hopping, in his mind, he looked like Creed. 266 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:30,858 He was like, "Yeah, look at me go. Look at me go." 267 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:32,326 When, in fact, his hopping looked like-- 268 00:11:32,426 --> 00:11:34,127 You know when someone is trying to escape a kidnapper 269 00:11:34,228 --> 00:11:36,496 who tied their legs together? It was like that. 270 00:11:39,466 --> 00:11:41,935 Now, apparently, the reason he fell is because 271 00:11:42,102 --> 00:11:44,771 his foot got caught in the pedal cage. 272 00:11:44,872 --> 00:11:47,107 And, knowing America, that means that right now 273 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:51,111 that bicycle is already at Guantanamo Bay. 274 00:11:52,946 --> 00:11:54,848 Who do you work for?! 275 00:11:54,948 --> 00:11:56,917 The Taliban? China? Russia? 276 00:11:57,017 --> 00:11:59,820 Kamala? 277 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,222 Ah, the silent treatment, huh? 278 00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,057 Okay, that's how you want to play it? 279 00:12:04,157 --> 00:12:05,859 Well, you better start talking soon, 280 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:07,494 or by the time I'm done with you, 281 00:12:07,594 --> 00:12:10,430 you'll be a one-speed. 282 00:12:10,531 --> 00:12:11,532 (bell rings) 283 00:12:11,632 --> 00:12:14,067 Don't get smart with me, you asshole! 284 00:12:18,438 --> 00:12:19,606 Still, though, 285 00:12:19,706 --> 00:12:22,543 falling down is always 286 00:12:22,643 --> 00:12:25,913 an embarrassing thing to happen to anyone, 287 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,681 never mind a president. 288 00:12:27,781 --> 00:12:31,485 Which is why former president, Donald Jolly Trump-- 289 00:12:31,585 --> 00:12:33,587 he made sure to weigh in. 290 00:12:33,687 --> 00:12:36,790 One of the greatest travesties of all 291 00:12:36,890 --> 00:12:39,092 is to see a person in the White House who, 292 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:42,262 even after years of political experience, 293 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:44,264 has absolutely no clue 294 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:47,100 how to be the president of the United States. 295 00:12:47,134 --> 00:12:49,603 And I hope he has recovered because, 296 00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:52,573 as you know, he fell of his bicycle today. 297 00:12:54,007 --> 00:12:56,210 No, I'm serious. I hope he's okay. 298 00:12:58,979 --> 00:13:00,948 Fell off a bicycle. 299 00:13:02,683 --> 00:13:04,518 I make this pledge to you today: 300 00:13:04,618 --> 00:13:06,720 I will never, ever ride a bicycle. 301 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:08,856 (laughter and applause) 302 00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:15,195 Every bicycle in the world 303 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:18,365 breathed a collective sigh of relief. 304 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:19,867 "He's not gonna ride us, guys. 305 00:13:19,967 --> 00:13:22,069 He's not gonna ride us. Thank God." 306 00:13:22,169 --> 00:13:23,370 All right, that's it for the headlines, 307 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:24,605 but, before we go to a quick break, 308 00:13:24,705 --> 00:13:25,939 let's check in on the stock market 309 00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:28,075 with our finance expert Michael Kosta, everybody! 310 00:13:28,108 --> 00:13:30,143 (cheering and applause) 311 00:13:32,446 --> 00:13:35,682 -Michael, good to see you again. -Nice to see you. 312 00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,818 What's, uh, what's happening in the market today, Mike? 313 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:40,487 -Well, I am crushing the markets. -Yeah, so you say, 314 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,289 -Mike. -I mean, today I am crushing. 315 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:43,524 And I got a hot tip. 316 00:13:43,624 --> 00:13:45,626 I got a hot tip for you, I got a hot tip for you, 317 00:13:45,726 --> 00:13:47,294 and I got a hot tip for you, so pay attention. 318 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:48,662 So, uh, this chart... 319 00:13:48,762 --> 00:13:50,864 Actually before that, President Biden, you know, 320 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:52,866 falling off a stopped bicycle. 321 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:55,602 -Yeah. -I mean, he did the hard stuff. 322 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:56,904 You know, he did the hard stuff. 323 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:58,305 That'd be like if you were getting ready 324 00:13:58,405 --> 00:14:00,941 to go skydiving, and-and you do the training, 325 00:14:01,041 --> 00:14:02,910 you pack your bag, you pack your parachute, 326 00:14:03,043 --> 00:14:05,045 you get in the airplane, you take off, 327 00:14:05,078 --> 00:14:07,481 you jump out at 30,000 feet, you pull the rip cord, 328 00:14:07,581 --> 00:14:10,317 the parachute opens, you land safely, 329 00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:13,053 you disconnect the parachute from your bag, 330 00:14:13,086 --> 00:14:14,421 you-you take a deep breath, 331 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:16,390 and you pull out a knife and stab yourself in the head. 332 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:18,192 -I mean, what? -(laughter) 333 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:22,062 All right, what's going on in the market, Mike? 334 00:14:22,129 --> 00:14:24,164 -Let's get to the chart. Okay. So... -Thank you. 335 00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:25,432 To the untrained eye 336 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,067 such as yourself and such as yourself, 337 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:28,335 this looks like a stock chart, 338 00:14:28,435 --> 00:14:30,337 but actually, what this is 339 00:14:30,437 --> 00:14:33,674 is our confidence in President Biden. 340 00:14:33,774 --> 00:14:37,644 Okay, now, this is when he fell off a stopped bicycle, okay? 341 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:39,246 And it went low. 342 00:14:39,346 --> 00:14:41,348 This scared the hell out of all of us, okay? 343 00:14:41,448 --> 00:14:43,116 Now, these three little dips right here, 344 00:14:43,217 --> 00:14:45,552 that's when he did those, you know, three little jumps. 345 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,487 (laughter and applause) 346 00:14:47,588 --> 00:14:49,289 Is he gonna break his leg? 347 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:50,858 Is he gonna pull a hamstring? 348 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:53,093 Is he gonna tear his ACL? 349 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:56,263 Now, once he got home, sat in a chair, 350 00:14:56,363 --> 00:14:57,731 was surrounded by Secret Service, 351 00:14:57,831 --> 00:15:00,634 the confidence began to rise. 352 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:03,370 Speaking of rising, tech. (whistles) 353 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:05,739 Okay? Up big-time. 354 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:08,275 S&P 500, okay? This is tech if you don't know. 355 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:12,112 "S&P" stands for "surge and protectors," okay? 356 00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:14,748 And if you want to be successful in tech, 357 00:15:14,848 --> 00:15:17,951 you need at least 500 surge protectors 358 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:19,586 to be a successful company. 359 00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:21,054 That's why those small businesses 360 00:15:21,121 --> 00:15:22,256 that don't use a lot of electricity 361 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:23,524 never really seem to make it. 362 00:15:23,624 --> 00:15:25,826 Don't forget, I'm an expert here, Trevor, 363 00:15:25,926 --> 00:15:27,294 -okay? -Oh, yeah. Yeah, so you say. 364 00:15:27,394 --> 00:15:28,896 Yeah, speaking of tech, uh... 365 00:15:29,062 --> 00:15:30,564 And I got a hot tip coming for you. Don't forget. 366 00:15:30,664 --> 00:15:31,932 -Michael, is the tip coming? -No, it's gonna come. 367 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:33,133 -Just pay... It's gonna come. -All right. 368 00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:36,136 Uh, so, that TikTok story, right? 369 00:15:36,236 --> 00:15:38,172 -The China one. Yeah. -That's wild. Yeah, China. 370 00:15:38,272 --> 00:15:40,107 I mean, what does China think we are as Americans, 371 00:15:40,207 --> 00:15:42,276 just so lazy that all we care about 372 00:15:42,376 --> 00:15:45,245 are followers, you know, and not our own privacy? 373 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:48,081 A-And it's subjects like that that I talk about 374 00:15:48,115 --> 00:15:51,752 at my TikTok, @MichaelKosta_. 375 00:15:51,852 --> 00:15:52,986 Make sure you give it a follow. 376 00:15:53,086 --> 00:15:56,456 Now, don't forget, that was leaked audio. 377 00:15:56,557 --> 00:15:57,791 -Right. -We know about this 378 00:15:57,891 --> 00:16:00,093 because of TikTok's leaked audio, right? 379 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:03,297 Audio that I did a lip sync video to 380 00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:05,098 on my TikTok, 381 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:07,134 which is @MichaelKosta_. 382 00:16:07,234 --> 00:16:08,936 Make sure you follow and like. 383 00:16:09,036 --> 00:16:11,405 Now, look, if you're as outraged about this as I am, 384 00:16:11,505 --> 00:16:13,307 I think we all need to send a message 385 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,209 to the Beijing authorities, okay? 386 00:16:15,309 --> 00:16:16,643 So, here's how we're gonna do that. 387 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:18,645 Grab your phone and your computer. 388 00:16:18,745 --> 00:16:24,785 Go to http://tiktok.com. 389 00:16:24,885 --> 00:16:26,153 -Oh, no. -Okay? 390 00:16:26,253 --> 00:16:29,857 And you find MichaelKosta_. 391 00:16:29,957 --> 00:16:31,625 Follow me. Go to one of my videos, 392 00:16:31,725 --> 00:16:33,927 leave a message, and we will not be silenced, 393 00:16:34,061 --> 00:16:35,429 and I will let Beijing know that. 394 00:16:35,529 --> 00:16:36,930 Okay, got it. Ready for the hot tip? 395 00:16:37,064 --> 00:16:38,799 -Can we... Yeah, can we... -Ready for the hot tip? Okay. 396 00:16:38,899 --> 00:16:40,467 Instead of trying to get you followers on TikTok, 397 00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:41,869 -let's just get to the... Yes. -I've been giving 398 00:16:41,969 --> 00:16:43,570 a lot of hot tips, and frankly, I'm sick and tired 399 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:45,072 of giving these hot tips away for free. 400 00:16:45,105 --> 00:16:47,541 So I left mine today on my TikTok page, 401 00:16:47,641 --> 00:16:49,776 -@MichaelKosta_. -Mike... 402 00:16:49,877 --> 00:16:51,712 You won't regret it. Thanks for the follow, Trevor. 403 00:16:51,812 --> 00:16:53,146 Okay, sounds good. 404 00:16:53,247 --> 00:16:55,449 (cheering and applause) 405 00:16:55,549 --> 00:16:56,950 I feel like that was a waste of our time. 406 00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:59,086 All right, don't go away, 'cause when we come back, 407 00:16:59,119 --> 00:17:01,021 Dulcé Sloan will tell us how corporate America 408 00:17:01,088 --> 00:17:03,423 learned to love gay people. You don't want to miss it. 409 00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:05,559 (cheering and applause) 410 00:17:12,478 --> 00:17:14,513 (cheering and applause) 411 00:17:21,220 --> 00:17:23,122 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 412 00:17:23,222 --> 00:17:27,259 June is Pride Month, 413 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,462 or, as it's called in the state of Florida, Shh. 414 00:17:30,562 --> 00:17:33,399 But while you're out there celebrating Pride, 415 00:17:33,499 --> 00:17:35,501 don't forget that some of its biggest supporters 416 00:17:35,601 --> 00:17:37,069 weren't always on its side. 417 00:17:37,169 --> 00:17:38,904 For more, we turn to Dulcé Sloan 418 00:17:39,004 --> 00:17:41,473 for another installment of Dul-sayin'. 419 00:17:41,573 --> 00:17:43,609 ♪ ♪ 420 00:17:47,613 --> 00:17:49,014 Hello, friends. 421 00:17:49,114 --> 00:17:51,750 It's June, which means it's the first month of the year 422 00:17:51,850 --> 00:17:55,020 where it's just hot enough outside to not be sexy. 423 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,322 But, in America, we know June also means 424 00:17:57,423 --> 00:17:59,825 Gay Pride Month! 425 00:17:59,925 --> 00:18:02,494 So I want to wish everyone a happy Pride. 426 00:18:02,594 --> 00:18:04,196 And I'm not the only one. 427 00:18:04,296 --> 00:18:07,332 This year, it feels like every damn company with a logo 428 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:09,668 is going full rainbow. 429 00:18:09,768 --> 00:18:11,103 You've probably seen these ads, 430 00:18:11,203 --> 00:18:13,839 like Burger King offering Whoppers with two top buns 431 00:18:13,939 --> 00:18:15,340 and two bottom buns. 432 00:18:15,441 --> 00:18:17,710 Listen, it's still bread, 433 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:20,579 and every gay man I know is not eating bread in the summer. 434 00:18:20,646 --> 00:18:23,148 They're doing keto and crunches until October. 435 00:18:23,248 --> 00:18:25,317 But don't forget-- companies weren't always jumping 436 00:18:25,417 --> 00:18:28,253 on the Pride float, looking like a Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper. 437 00:18:28,354 --> 00:18:31,924 When the gay rights movement first began in 1969, 438 00:18:32,024 --> 00:18:35,394 most companies were too afraid to advertise to gay people. 439 00:18:35,494 --> 00:18:38,597 They didn't want to "offend" the rest of America, 440 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:40,432 especially religious conservatives. 441 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:43,102 They were so uptight, they thought pretzels were too sexy. 442 00:18:43,202 --> 00:18:46,605 All those twists. Oh, it's so sinful! 443 00:18:46,705 --> 00:18:50,342 So companies kept their distance, except for... 444 00:18:50,442 --> 00:18:52,478 Absolut Vodka. 445 00:18:52,611 --> 00:18:54,313 Absolut was one of the first big companies 446 00:18:54,413 --> 00:18:56,281 to market to the queer community 447 00:18:56,382 --> 00:18:58,083 because those Swedes don't give a shit 448 00:18:58,183 --> 00:19:00,319 about the religious right. They were, like, 449 00:19:00,419 --> 00:19:01,954 "Who cares if the right doesn't like us? 450 00:19:02,054 --> 00:19:03,622 All they drink is milk." 451 00:19:03,655 --> 00:19:07,493 So thanks to Absolut for being a true ally. 452 00:19:10,462 --> 00:19:12,431 ♪ ♪ 453 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:16,969 Ooh! That's a good year. 454 00:19:17,069 --> 00:19:18,704 I didn't drink the whole thing because 455 00:19:18,804 --> 00:19:20,406 I got a work meeting after this, 456 00:19:20,572 --> 00:19:22,808 and they say I got to be sober this time. 457 00:19:22,908 --> 00:19:25,044 (exhales) Anyway, 458 00:19:25,144 --> 00:19:27,680 as gay people became more visible in society, 459 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:30,983 some advertisers slowly started reaching out into the community 460 00:19:31,083 --> 00:19:32,985 until the AIDS epidemic blew up. 461 00:19:33,085 --> 00:19:35,754 That sent companies fleeing for the hills again. 462 00:19:35,854 --> 00:19:38,590 "Oh, no. What if the gays look at our ads?" 463 00:19:38,691 --> 00:19:41,193 Wait. Is that how you get AIDS? 464 00:19:41,293 --> 00:19:43,128 But you know what company doubled down 465 00:19:43,228 --> 00:19:47,199 on their advertising during the AIDS crisis? That's right. 466 00:19:47,299 --> 00:19:49,768 Absolut Vodka! 467 00:19:51,336 --> 00:19:53,372 ♪ ♪ 468 00:19:53,472 --> 00:19:55,407 Mmm! 469 00:19:55,507 --> 00:19:57,509 (burping) 470 00:19:57,609 --> 00:19:59,178 The second half got a kick. 471 00:19:59,278 --> 00:20:01,046 Damn. All right. 472 00:20:01,146 --> 00:20:02,414 Where was I? Right. 473 00:20:02,514 --> 00:20:05,184 By the 1990s, the queer community had once again 474 00:20:05,284 --> 00:20:07,286 fought its way into greater acceptance. 475 00:20:07,386 --> 00:20:10,422 So brands once again tried to dip their toes 476 00:20:10,522 --> 00:20:13,325 into the pool party, but they were still too nervous 477 00:20:13,425 --> 00:20:15,227 to jump all the way in. 478 00:20:15,327 --> 00:20:17,463 So American advertising entered a phase 479 00:20:17,563 --> 00:20:20,432 now known as "gay vague." 480 00:20:20,566 --> 00:20:22,835 Which sounds a lot like being in a fraternity. 481 00:20:22,935 --> 00:20:24,403 Basically, it was companies hinting 482 00:20:24,570 --> 00:20:27,139 at possible homosexuality. 483 00:20:27,239 --> 00:20:29,742 Like this Volkswagen ad, where two dudes are driving in a car, 484 00:20:29,842 --> 00:20:32,478 and they pick up this dirty-ass chair off the sidewalk. 485 00:20:32,578 --> 00:20:35,414 So the ad leaves it open to interpretation. 486 00:20:35,581 --> 00:20:38,050 Are they roommates? Are they lovers? 487 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:40,019 Are they roommate-lovers? 488 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,087 Because that's the worst kind of hookup. 489 00:20:42,187 --> 00:20:43,455 You got to wait for them to text you back 490 00:20:43,589 --> 00:20:45,324 and finish up in the bathroom? 491 00:20:45,424 --> 00:20:47,626 Now, a few times during this era, a brand 492 00:20:47,726 --> 00:20:49,028 tried to make an outright gay ad, 493 00:20:49,128 --> 00:20:52,631 like Benetton and Ikea, and the ad completely 494 00:20:52,731 --> 00:20:54,033 won over the religious right 495 00:20:54,133 --> 00:20:56,835 and they apologized for everything. 496 00:20:56,935 --> 00:20:59,471 (laughs) Psych! 497 00:20:59,605 --> 00:21:02,441 One Ikea in Long Island even got a bomb threat. 498 00:21:02,608 --> 00:21:04,610 What is wrong with these religious fanatics? 499 00:21:04,676 --> 00:21:07,613 They know the furniture isn't gay, right? 500 00:21:07,713 --> 00:21:11,016 Plus, if there's one place that can reassemble after a bombing, 501 00:21:11,116 --> 00:21:12,551 it's an Ikea. 502 00:21:12,618 --> 00:21:14,453 Unfortunately for the religious right 503 00:21:14,553 --> 00:21:17,623 but luckily for everyone else, their time was ending. 504 00:21:17,723 --> 00:21:21,026 Over the next two decades, Americans started to realize 505 00:21:21,126 --> 00:21:24,563 that gay people were just the same as everyone else, 506 00:21:24,596 --> 00:21:26,165 except with better ads. 507 00:21:26,265 --> 00:21:29,201 And as popular opinion improved, companies finally 508 00:21:29,301 --> 00:21:32,471 felt it was "safe enough" to take gay money. 509 00:21:32,571 --> 00:21:35,007 And this time, it was major brands. 510 00:21:35,107 --> 00:21:37,676 Amazon started advertising to gay people. 511 00:21:37,776 --> 00:21:40,412 Coca-Cola aired a commercial with two dads 512 00:21:40,579 --> 00:21:41,647 during the Super Bowl, 513 00:21:41,747 --> 00:21:45,017 and Just Salad even had a Big Gay Salad, 514 00:21:45,117 --> 00:21:48,253 which, come on-- that was just a regular salad. 515 00:21:48,354 --> 00:21:50,189 At least toss some glitter in it. 516 00:21:50,289 --> 00:21:53,459 And that brings us to today, when practically every company 517 00:21:53,592 --> 00:21:54,960 does Pride Month marketing. 518 00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:58,197 But just because every June a business acts like they're 519 00:21:58,297 --> 00:22:01,066 auditioning for Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, 520 00:22:01,166 --> 00:22:04,470 it doesn't mean their values line up with their tweets. 521 00:22:04,603 --> 00:22:06,338 Take AT&T, for example. 522 00:22:06,438 --> 00:22:10,175 They love to show everyone how much they support pride, 523 00:22:10,275 --> 00:22:12,344 while also giving one million dollars 524 00:22:12,444 --> 00:22:15,547 to anti-LGBTQ politicians and PACs. 525 00:22:15,647 --> 00:22:18,650 Or how retailers like H&M are launching Pride collections 526 00:22:18,751 --> 00:22:20,686 with items made in countries 527 00:22:20,786 --> 00:22:22,821 that criminalize homosexuality, 528 00:22:22,921 --> 00:22:24,390 which is another reason 529 00:22:24,556 --> 00:22:27,659 wearing this ugly-ass top should be a crime. 530 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,927 And they aren't the only hypocrites 531 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:31,130 donating to anti-queer causes, 532 00:22:31,230 --> 00:22:33,632 but hey, why go through all the trouble 533 00:22:33,732 --> 00:22:35,267 of listing them here? 534 00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:37,136 I'm no hater. 535 00:22:37,236 --> 00:22:39,271 ♪ ♪ 536 00:22:42,875 --> 00:22:44,576 Oh, and that one, too. Okay. 537 00:22:44,676 --> 00:22:47,680 Are we done? This... 538 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:50,215 This is making me sad. 539 00:22:50,315 --> 00:22:53,052 The point is enjoy all those gay Whoppers 540 00:22:53,152 --> 00:22:54,286 and pink Toyotas, 541 00:22:54,386 --> 00:22:57,189 but don't forget what this month is about. 542 00:22:57,289 --> 00:23:00,392 Pride is a time to celebrate the right to love who you want 543 00:23:00,492 --> 00:23:03,829 and to honor the people who fought to give us that right 544 00:23:03,929 --> 00:23:07,466 back when no brand was on their side. 545 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,036 Except for Absolut. 546 00:23:11,136 --> 00:23:13,238 Mmm! 547 00:23:13,338 --> 00:23:15,040 You know, one of those gay Whoppers 548 00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:17,776 sounds real good about now. 549 00:23:17,876 --> 00:23:19,945 I'm dizzy. 550 00:23:20,045 --> 00:23:21,914 -♪ ♪ -(cheering and applause) 551 00:23:22,014 --> 00:23:23,449 Thank you so much for that, Dulcé Sloan. 552 00:23:23,549 --> 00:23:25,718 All right, when we come back, Katy Tur will be joining us 553 00:23:25,818 --> 00:23:27,286 on the show. You don't want to miss it. 554 00:23:27,386 --> 00:23:29,421 (cheering and applause) 555 00:23:38,764 --> 00:23:40,799 (cheering and applause) 556 00:23:44,903 --> 00:23:46,171 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 557 00:23:46,271 --> 00:23:49,074 My guest tonight is an award-winning journalist 558 00:23:49,174 --> 00:23:50,809 and MSNBC anchor 559 00:23:50,909 --> 00:23:53,545 who writes about chasing news at an early age 560 00:23:53,645 --> 00:23:56,114 and her pioneering helicopter journalist parents 561 00:23:56,214 --> 00:23:58,817 in her new memoir called Rough Draft. 562 00:23:58,917 --> 00:24:00,886 Please welcome Katy Tur. 563 00:24:00,986 --> 00:24:03,021 -♪ ♪ -(cheering and applause) 564 00:24:07,659 --> 00:24:10,662 -Welcome back. -Hello! Thank you for having me. 565 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,902 Katy Tur, welcome back to the show. 566 00:24:17,002 --> 00:24:19,338 Thank you so much for having me. It's exciting to be here. 567 00:24:19,438 --> 00:24:21,974 It is-- It's exciting to have you because, you know, 568 00:24:22,074 --> 00:24:24,810 your last book went on to become a New York Times bestseller. 569 00:24:24,910 --> 00:24:26,812 -Congratulations on that. -Thank you. Thank you. -(hooting) 570 00:24:26,912 --> 00:24:28,547 -(laughs) -(cheering and applause) 571 00:24:28,647 --> 00:24:31,550 I feel like this book has-has the same in store 572 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:33,352 and I think for a slightly different reason. 573 00:24:33,452 --> 00:24:35,153 You know, many people have seen you on MSNBC. 574 00:24:35,253 --> 00:24:36,755 People have seen you on the campaign trail 575 00:24:36,855 --> 00:24:38,190 covering Donald Trump and, you know, 576 00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:40,092 changing what you do on your show these days. 577 00:24:40,192 --> 00:24:43,628 But this book takes us through 578 00:24:43,729 --> 00:24:45,964 -one of the most harrowing childhoods... -(laughs) 579 00:24:46,064 --> 00:24:48,100 ...that's filled with, you know, moments of joy, 580 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,368 moments of pain, 581 00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:51,336 -moments of terror, really. -Yeah. 582 00:24:51,436 --> 00:24:54,106 And I think let's-let's start at the beginning to situate people. 583 00:24:55,207 --> 00:24:56,875 Everyone talks about helicopter parents, 584 00:24:56,908 --> 00:25:00,879 but y-you mean actual helicopter parents when you... 585 00:25:00,912 --> 00:25:02,080 -(stammers) -No, no, and I mean-- Everyone goes, 586 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:03,915 "Oh, h-he..." No, you had helicopter parents. 587 00:25:04,016 --> 00:25:05,083 Just explain that for the people 588 00:25:05,183 --> 00:25:06,251 -to understand, please. -My parents-- 589 00:25:06,351 --> 00:25:08,487 -My dad was a helicopter pilot. -Right. 590 00:25:08,587 --> 00:25:12,290 -And my parents had a helicopter news-gathering company. -Mm-hmm. 591 00:25:12,391 --> 00:25:14,693 And I grew up in the helicopter. 592 00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:16,428 I spent more time in the helicopter 593 00:25:16,528 --> 00:25:18,563 than I did in my own bed. 594 00:25:18,664 --> 00:25:22,067 I would fly the helicopter alongside my dad. 595 00:25:22,167 --> 00:25:24,403 I developed an unhealthy obsession 596 00:25:24,503 --> 00:25:26,238 with backyard pools, 597 00:25:26,338 --> 00:25:27,806 because, in Los Angeles, 598 00:25:27,906 --> 00:25:31,076 everybody had a backyard pool, it seemed, except me. 599 00:25:31,176 --> 00:25:33,045 And you were just the person in the helicopter. 600 00:25:33,145 --> 00:25:35,714 (stammers) You know, what's interesting about your story is, 601 00:25:35,814 --> 00:25:39,084 in many ways, I feel like it tracks news in America. 602 00:25:39,184 --> 00:25:40,852 You know, where you were as a child, 603 00:25:40,886 --> 00:25:42,454 you were at what many would argue 604 00:25:42,554 --> 00:25:44,956 was the beginning of the 20-h-- 24-hour news cycle. 605 00:25:45,057 --> 00:25:47,492 -Yeah. Yeah. -The O.J. chase-- that was your dad. 606 00:25:47,592 --> 00:25:50,128 -And my mom, yeah. -Right. Following that-that, you know? 607 00:25:50,228 --> 00:25:52,097 And then your mom is there. Everyone's working. 608 00:25:52,197 --> 00:25:54,433 -The cameras... -My mom is hanging out 609 00:25:54,533 --> 00:25:57,002 of the helicopter with a camera on her shoulder, 610 00:25:57,102 --> 00:25:59,738 quite literally, just strapped in with a belt, 611 00:25:59,871 --> 00:26:01,340 looking down at the ground, 612 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,076 which is 1,500 feet below her. 613 00:26:04,176 --> 00:26:06,712 The O.J. chase, they-they were the first ones to get that. 614 00:26:06,878 --> 00:26:08,613 The Reginald Denny beating during the riots, 615 00:26:08,714 --> 00:26:10,749 the L.A. Riots, the guy that got pulled out of the red truck 616 00:26:10,882 --> 00:26:13,185 and beaten to within an inch of his life. 617 00:26:13,285 --> 00:26:16,254 Any police pursuit you saw in Los Angeles in the '90s 618 00:26:16,355 --> 00:26:18,023 and the late '80s... 619 00:26:18,123 --> 00:26:20,125 Madonna giving the camera the bird 620 00:26:20,225 --> 00:26:22,127 -on her wedding day to Sean Penn? -It's wild. 621 00:26:22,227 --> 00:26:24,529 -My parents shot that. -(laughter) 622 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:26,698 -(applause) -It feels like, in many ways, 623 00:26:26,798 --> 00:26:28,900 that was the, um... 624 00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:31,570 I don't want to say, like, your parents invented that, 625 00:26:31,670 --> 00:26:33,171 but that was sort of their style. 626 00:26:33,271 --> 00:26:35,173 You know, that was a thing that became synonymous with... 627 00:26:35,273 --> 00:26:37,175 So they did... Well, they did sort of invent it, actually. 628 00:26:37,275 --> 00:26:39,111 So, they were... If they didn't cover 629 00:26:39,211 --> 00:26:41,680 -the very first police pursuit, it was the second. -Yes. 630 00:26:41,847 --> 00:26:44,116 And they were the ones that popularized it. 631 00:26:44,216 --> 00:26:47,486 They were the ones that changed the way news was covered 632 00:26:47,586 --> 00:26:49,254 in Los Angeles, and then, the country, 633 00:26:49,354 --> 00:26:50,722 and then, you could argue, the world. 634 00:26:50,856 --> 00:26:52,858 It was breaking, in the moment, and it was now, now, now. 635 00:26:52,891 --> 00:26:56,261 -Yes. -No context needed, blow out everything, 636 00:26:56,361 --> 00:26:58,864 and cover this for as long as we can. 637 00:26:58,897 --> 00:27:00,866 -You know, it was an easy decision going forward. -Mm-hmm. 638 00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:03,135 Whatever was happening, it didn't matter. 639 00:27:03,235 --> 00:27:05,237 If there was a chase going on, go to that chase. 640 00:27:05,337 --> 00:27:07,205 -People will watch. -It feels like 641 00:27:07,306 --> 00:27:10,242 there's one part of us that's, like, eternally grateful 642 00:27:10,342 --> 00:27:12,978 to your parents for, you know, starting this trend, 643 00:27:13,078 --> 00:27:14,613 and "Oh, we get to see what's happening." 644 00:27:14,713 --> 00:27:16,181 On the other hand, it feels like 645 00:27:16,281 --> 00:27:19,117 this became the drug that news became addicted to. 646 00:27:19,217 --> 00:27:21,086 It is a double-edged sword 'cause they captured things 647 00:27:21,186 --> 00:27:22,621 that you were not supposed to see. 648 00:27:22,721 --> 00:27:26,091 They captured the police brutally beating immigrants 649 00:27:26,191 --> 00:27:27,626 on the side of the highway. 650 00:27:27,726 --> 00:27:29,661 I mean, stuff that the police would have gotten away with 651 00:27:29,761 --> 00:27:31,396 -had my parents not been there. -Exactly. Right. 652 00:27:31,496 --> 00:27:33,165 So, they did some incredible things, 653 00:27:33,265 --> 00:27:37,836 and they won all the awards that there are to win, but they... 654 00:27:37,903 --> 00:27:40,639 You could say, arguably, that they were responsible 655 00:27:40,739 --> 00:27:42,574 for the downfall of local news, 656 00:27:42,674 --> 00:27:44,109 maybe the downfall of national news, 657 00:27:44,209 --> 00:27:48,046 -the addiction to reality TV as news. -Yes. 658 00:27:48,146 --> 00:27:51,483 And I do think you could draw a straight line 659 00:27:51,583 --> 00:27:53,719 from the way we covered pursuits back then 660 00:27:53,852 --> 00:27:56,555 to the way we covered Donald Trump in 2016, 661 00:27:56,655 --> 00:27:58,290 and the way we cover politics now. 662 00:27:58,390 --> 00:28:00,292 Yeah, it seems like it's all about the now, 663 00:28:00,392 --> 00:28:02,327 it's all about what's unfolding. 664 00:28:02,427 --> 00:28:04,396 -Nobody takes time anymore... -Don't digest it. 665 00:28:04,496 --> 00:28:06,064 -Yes. -Just put it on the air. 666 00:28:06,164 --> 00:28:08,066 Do you ever feel pressure as a journalist to be in that space? 667 00:28:08,166 --> 00:28:10,035 Because you're on MSNBC, it is 24 hours, 668 00:28:10,135 --> 00:28:11,603 everything is happening live. How do you...? 669 00:28:11,703 --> 00:28:12,938 How do you find that balance 670 00:28:13,038 --> 00:28:14,873 between waiting for more information 671 00:28:14,906 --> 00:28:16,475 whilst also telling the people what's happening? 672 00:28:16,575 --> 00:28:18,477 I think we're learning in real time right now, 673 00:28:18,577 --> 00:28:20,879 and I do think we are learning from our mistakes. 674 00:28:20,912 --> 00:28:23,782 Um, I write about in this book the Barr summary, 675 00:28:23,882 --> 00:28:25,117 uh, you know, when A.G. Barr came out, 676 00:28:25,217 --> 00:28:27,319 and he gave the summary 677 00:28:27,419 --> 00:28:28,887 -of the Mueller Report, which was... -Yes. 678 00:28:28,987 --> 00:28:30,889 Ended up being weeks before the Mueller Report came out. 679 00:28:30,922 --> 00:28:33,558 And so, he gives us the summary on a Sunday, 680 00:28:33,659 --> 00:28:36,628 -and it is misleading, as we know right now. -Right. 681 00:28:36,728 --> 00:28:39,031 It didn't have any of the underlying evidence. 682 00:28:39,131 --> 00:28:41,867 But because we were covering it live, live, live, 683 00:28:41,967 --> 00:28:45,304 we went to air with it, and essentially became a pawn 684 00:28:45,404 --> 00:28:47,172 in a political document 685 00:28:47,272 --> 00:28:49,608 that then had a head start for the truth, 686 00:28:49,708 --> 00:28:51,376 in front of the truth for weeks. 687 00:28:51,476 --> 00:28:53,612 The problem that we face right now is that 688 00:28:53,712 --> 00:28:56,982 there's a part of the country that has demonized journalists 689 00:28:57,082 --> 00:29:00,752 -Yes. -and has said that we only report one thing, 690 00:29:00,852 --> 00:29:02,688 we only want the outcome to be a certain way. 691 00:29:02,854 --> 00:29:04,656 So, say we didn't go up with the Barr report 692 00:29:04,756 --> 00:29:07,559 and other people did-- Fox News did, 693 00:29:07,659 --> 00:29:10,862 or other outlets on the right, Breitbart, etcetera-- 694 00:29:10,929 --> 00:29:12,631 and we didn't and we said "We're gonna wait until 695 00:29:12,731 --> 00:29:15,200 we get the full context of it," they would have used that 696 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,736 as fodder to say, "Hey, listen, we're not gonna 697 00:29:17,869 --> 00:29:19,438 report on something that was good for Donald Trump." 698 00:29:19,538 --> 00:29:22,140 Right, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. 699 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,710 There's another part of the book that I-I feel is 700 00:29:24,876 --> 00:29:27,412 particularly pertinent, not just because of the month we're in, 701 00:29:27,512 --> 00:29:29,781 not just because of the time we're in, but because of, 702 00:29:29,881 --> 00:29:31,883 I think, life and relationships as a whole, 703 00:29:31,984 --> 00:29:34,086 and it's about you talking about your relationship 704 00:29:34,186 --> 00:29:36,588 with your father, who transitioned 705 00:29:36,688 --> 00:29:39,224 and came out as transgender. 706 00:29:39,324 --> 00:29:42,828 I don't think I've-I've read an account from a person 707 00:29:42,894 --> 00:29:46,498 that is as personal as-as yours is. 708 00:29:46,598 --> 00:29:49,968 Because you talk about being raised by a father who was, 709 00:29:50,068 --> 00:29:52,838 you know, suff-- struggled with rage, just like, 710 00:29:52,938 --> 00:29:55,874 real anger towards you, it was an abusive household to be in, 711 00:29:55,974 --> 00:29:57,709 you were terrified as a child, 712 00:29:57,843 --> 00:30:01,113 and then you have this moment where your dad says, 713 00:30:01,213 --> 00:30:04,683 "Hey, no, I'm now 'she' and call me Hannah," 714 00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:06,652 and it becomes this whole journey 715 00:30:06,752 --> 00:30:09,321 and then asks you to throw away the old memories 716 00:30:09,421 --> 00:30:13,025 of another person and just live with somebody new. 717 00:30:13,125 --> 00:30:15,127 It's a-it's a very, like, layered question, 718 00:30:15,227 --> 00:30:18,130 but what do you think we can all learn 719 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:20,632 or what-- how did you navigate what has to be 720 00:30:20,732 --> 00:30:22,134 one to have the most confusing issues 721 00:30:22,234 --> 00:30:23,702 -happening in society today? -It was 722 00:30:23,869 --> 00:30:25,671 very confusing in the moment. And the-- 723 00:30:25,771 --> 00:30:29,141 What made it confusing is that, um, life is complicated. 724 00:30:29,241 --> 00:30:31,610 And-and childhoods are complicated. 725 00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:34,313 And mine was especially complicated 726 00:30:34,413 --> 00:30:36,381 for distinct reasons. 727 00:30:36,481 --> 00:30:38,817 I loved my childhood. 728 00:30:38,884 --> 00:30:41,620 It was so much fun, and there was so much love 729 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,021 within my family, 730 00:30:43,121 --> 00:30:45,824 but it was also incredibly scary at times. 731 00:30:45,891 --> 00:30:48,327 My dad, as you said, would fly into rages. 732 00:30:48,427 --> 00:30:50,462 Uh, there would be holes in the walls of our house 733 00:30:50,562 --> 00:30:52,464 that we, as little kids, 734 00:30:52,564 --> 00:30:54,933 would plaster over to cover up. 735 00:30:55,033 --> 00:30:57,836 Um, you know, I hid in the bathroom one time for hours 736 00:30:57,936 --> 00:31:00,305 because I was afraid of what my dad might do. 737 00:31:00,405 --> 00:31:02,341 Um, he threw things at my mother. 738 00:31:02,441 --> 00:31:06,044 And then, when he called me-- and I use "he" 739 00:31:06,144 --> 00:31:07,346 very specifically, because in that moment 740 00:31:07,446 --> 00:31:09,748 -Right, right. -my dad was still "he" to me-- 741 00:31:09,848 --> 00:31:13,218 when he called to say, "I'm not a he, I'm a she. 742 00:31:13,318 --> 00:31:15,620 My name is not Bob Tur. Bob Tur is dead." 743 00:31:15,721 --> 00:31:17,923 Literally, "Bob Tur is dead" is what he said. 744 00:31:18,023 --> 00:31:20,359 Um, "I'm Hannah, and we can throw away 745 00:31:20,459 --> 00:31:23,228 "everything that happened in the past. All of that is gone. 746 00:31:23,328 --> 00:31:26,531 That's where the rage came from. The rage will now be gone." 747 00:31:26,632 --> 00:31:28,300 I had a hard time with that. 748 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,436 And it-it-- Because of the-- of the content 749 00:31:31,536 --> 00:31:34,072 -of what my dad was telling me, -Mm-hmm. 750 00:31:34,172 --> 00:31:36,742 and the fact that my dad had been living this lie 751 00:31:36,875 --> 00:31:40,712 for so long, it made it even harder to-to navigate 752 00:31:40,812 --> 00:31:42,481 because, on the one hand, 753 00:31:42,581 --> 00:31:45,250 -how awful for my dad. -Right. 754 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:48,353 How horrible to have to live a lie for that long 755 00:31:48,453 --> 00:31:49,921 and to not be your true self. 756 00:31:50,022 --> 00:31:53,558 And-and of course that's gonna make you a wound up person, 757 00:31:53,659 --> 00:31:56,528 and it's gonna... it's gonna break you in some ways. 758 00:31:56,628 --> 00:31:59,064 But you were also my father, 759 00:31:59,164 --> 00:32:01,833 and you were also somebody who has done 760 00:32:01,867 --> 00:32:04,303 a lot of bad things to us 761 00:32:04,403 --> 00:32:07,439 and me, my mother, 762 00:32:07,539 --> 00:32:11,343 and I can't just throw that away. 763 00:32:11,443 --> 00:32:14,146 -Right. -I-I don't have the ability 764 00:32:14,246 --> 00:32:16,014 to just forget those memories. 765 00:32:16,114 --> 00:32:19,518 And I tried to bring that up, 766 00:32:19,618 --> 00:32:22,154 and it just didn't go well. It didn't go well. 767 00:32:22,254 --> 00:32:23,488 My dad didn't want to confront it, 768 00:32:23,588 --> 00:32:26,958 and I didn't want to let it go, and so now... 769 00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:31,630 Now we're estranged, and it sucks. 770 00:32:31,730 --> 00:32:33,131 I think what I appreciated most about it 771 00:32:33,231 --> 00:32:35,667 was it took an issue 772 00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:37,536 that many people are trying 773 00:32:37,636 --> 00:32:41,206 to, uh, turn into this homogenous blob, 774 00:32:41,306 --> 00:32:43,241 and it showed us how many individuals 775 00:32:43,342 --> 00:32:44,409 are involved in all the stories. 776 00:32:44,509 --> 00:32:46,078 You know, people talk about trans people 777 00:32:46,178 --> 00:32:48,814 as if it is one human being that is doing certain things 778 00:32:48,914 --> 00:32:50,282 or they talk about gay people as if... 779 00:32:50,382 --> 00:32:52,484 And this showed you there are many stories, 780 00:32:52,584 --> 00:32:54,052 there are many people, there are many complications... 781 00:32:54,152 --> 00:32:55,654 -People are people. -People are people. 782 00:32:55,821 --> 00:32:57,856 -Yeah. -Yeah. It's a really fascinating book. 783 00:32:57,956 --> 00:32:59,725 Um, you-you shared so much. 784 00:32:59,825 --> 00:33:01,560 I think everybody's really gonna love reading it 785 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:04,129 for journalism, for life, for families, for everything. 786 00:33:04,229 --> 00:33:05,731 Thank you so much for joining me on the show. 787 00:33:05,831 --> 00:33:07,633 -Thank you so much. -I appreciate you. 788 00:33:07,733 --> 00:33:11,236 Katy Tur's memoir Rough Draft is available now, 789 00:33:11,336 --> 00:33:13,438 and be sure to watch Katy Tur Reports on MSNBC. 790 00:33:13,538 --> 00:33:14,706 We're gonna take a quick break, 791 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,475 but we'll be right back after this. 792 00:33:16,575 --> 00:33:18,610 (cheering and applause) 793 00:33:25,025 --> 00:33:27,260 (cheering and applause) 794 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,096 Well, that's our show for tonight, but before we go, 795 00:33:30,196 --> 00:33:32,132 before we go, please consider donating 796 00:33:32,232 --> 00:33:34,901 to the National Black Justice Coalition. 797 00:33:35,001 --> 00:33:36,803 Since 2003, they have been 798 00:33:36,903 --> 00:33:39,139 America's leading national civil rights organization 799 00:33:39,239 --> 00:33:40,607 advocating for federal policies 800 00:33:40,707 --> 00:33:42,976 that fight against racism and homophobia. 801 00:33:43,076 --> 00:33:45,378 So, if you can, please donate at the link below 802 00:33:45,478 --> 00:33:46,947 to help them reach their vision of a world 803 00:33:47,047 --> 00:33:48,715 where all people are fully empowered 804 00:33:48,815 --> 00:33:50,784 to participate safely, openly and honestly 805 00:33:50,884 --> 00:33:54,054 in family, faith and community regardless of race, class, 806 00:33:54,154 --> 00:33:56,289 gender identity or sexual orientation. 807 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:58,291 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. 808 00:33:58,391 --> 00:34:00,227 And remember, if you're on TikTok, 809 00:34:00,327 --> 00:34:02,362 dance like China's watching. 810 00:34:02,462 --> 00:34:05,198 Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 811 00:34:05,298 --> 00:34:08,268 Have you ever seen a president 812 00:34:08,368 --> 00:34:12,505 who refuses to accept blame 813 00:34:12,606 --> 00:34:14,708 and, I want to add to that, 814 00:34:14,808 --> 00:34:17,777 commits so many falsehoods? 815 00:34:17,877 --> 00:34:21,014 I'm being very polite here calling it falsehoods. 816 00:34:21,114 --> 00:34:22,449 Falsehoods. 817 00:34:22,549 --> 00:34:24,117 You know, on any given day, 818 00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:27,120 he's out there saying stuff that just ain't true. 819 00:34:27,187 --> 00:34:28,888 You ever seen anything like that? 820 00:34:30,523 --> 00:34:31,791 Never in my lifetime. 821 00:34:31,892 --> 00:34:33,927 ♪ ♪