1 00:00:01,001 --> 00:00:02,636 -♪ ♪ -ANNOUNCER: Coming to you 2 00:00:02,736 --> 00:00:05,138 from New York City, the only city in America, 3 00:00:05,239 --> 00:00:07,574 it's The Daily Show. 4 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:11,111 Tonight: Kansas saves abortion. 5 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:13,947 Your student debt can outlive you. 6 00:00:14,047 --> 00:00:16,683 And Ryuji Chua. 7 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:20,053 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 8 00:00:20,153 --> 00:00:22,189 -♪ ♪ -(cheering, applause) 9 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:39,640 What's going on, everybody. Welcome to The Daily Show. 10 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:41,742 I'm Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for tuning in. 11 00:00:41,842 --> 00:00:44,077 Thank you for coming out in person. 12 00:00:44,178 --> 00:00:45,579 Thank you for being here, everybody. 13 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:47,981 Oh, I can feel the energy. Take a seat. 14 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:49,249 Let's do this thing. Let's do it, let's do it. 15 00:00:49,349 --> 00:00:52,619 We have got a jam-packed show for you tonight. 16 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,022 Kansas is now the best state in America. 17 00:00:55,122 --> 00:00:57,324 Student debt is coming for your grandma. 18 00:00:57,424 --> 00:01:00,861 And Beyoncé is making a whole new album. 19 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:02,162 So, let's do this, people. 20 00:01:02,262 --> 00:01:04,264 Let's jump straight into today's headlines. 21 00:01:04,364 --> 00:01:06,533 -♪ ♪ -(cheering, applause) 22 00:01:10,204 --> 00:01:11,805 Okay. All right. 23 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:13,507 Before we get into the big stories, 24 00:01:13,607 --> 00:01:15,209 let's catch up on a few other things 25 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:17,344 going on in the news. First things first. 26 00:01:17,444 --> 00:01:19,880 According to astronomers, the earth 27 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:23,750 is actually spinning faster than ever before. 28 00:01:23,851 --> 00:01:26,386 And because of that, it recently set the record 29 00:01:26,486 --> 00:01:29,489 for the shortest day ever. Yeah. 30 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:32,593 June 29th was apparently 1.59 milliseconds shorter 31 00:01:32,693 --> 00:01:35,629 than a normal day. 32 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:36,964 Yeah. 33 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:38,465 And that's how you know things are going bad-- 34 00:01:38,565 --> 00:01:39,733 even the earth is like, "All right, let's wrap this up, 35 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:41,502 "let's go, let's go. Let's keep things moving, 36 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:43,303 Let's keep things going." 37 00:01:43,403 --> 00:01:46,840 1.59 milliseconds faster. 38 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,108 I mean, you do know what this means, right? 39 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:49,643 We all get to leave work 1.59 milliseconds earlier. 40 00:01:49,743 --> 00:01:53,447 Yeah, baby! I'm gone! 41 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:58,218 It also gives people a great excuse if they get pulled over. 42 00:01:58,318 --> 00:01:59,620 It's just like, "Sir, you have been drinking?" 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,355 "No, the earth is spinning super fast, man. 44 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:03,357 It's making me dizzy, man." 45 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:04,525 "Then why aren't we all dizzy?" 46 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:07,194 "I'm too drunk to answer that question." 47 00:02:07,294 --> 00:02:10,430 Meanwhile, in environmental news, a man in Utah 48 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:11,632 has been arrested 49 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:13,734 for accidentally starting 50 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:17,104 a 60-acre wildfire 51 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:20,974 while trying to burn a spider with a cigarette lighter. 52 00:02:22,609 --> 00:02:25,879 And, yes, this sounds terrible, 53 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:29,449 but I bet that spider learned his (bleep) lesson. 54 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:32,119 You've learned that, spider. 55 00:02:32,219 --> 00:02:34,821 In entertainment news, Brad Pitt wore a skirt 56 00:02:34,922 --> 00:02:37,357 to his latest movie premiere, and when he was asked 57 00:02:37,457 --> 00:02:39,259 why he did it he said, 58 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:41,628 "We're all going to die, so let's just 59 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:44,598 have some fun before we get out." 60 00:02:44,698 --> 00:02:46,700 Yeah. And I, uh, I love that. 61 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,871 What an inspirational way to say it's laundry day. 62 00:02:50,971 --> 00:02:53,240 It's also been, like, 200 degrees outside every day. 63 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,409 The question isn't why is Brad Pitt wearing a skirt, 64 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:57,878 it's why isn't every guy wearing a skirt? 65 00:02:57,978 --> 00:03:00,747 You kidding me? Have you felt how hot is out there? 66 00:03:00,848 --> 00:03:04,284 With the fabric on both sides, everything is cooped up. 67 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:05,619 You walk outside and you-- 68 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:07,354 You spend five minutes in this weather, 69 00:03:07,454 --> 00:03:08,655 before you know it, you're walking around 70 00:03:08,755 --> 00:03:11,425 with two lightly poached eggs in your pants. 71 00:03:11,525 --> 00:03:13,560 Got to let it breathe. 72 00:03:15,162 --> 00:03:17,598 Oh! Oh. This-- Okay, this is a wild story. 73 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:20,334 In travel news, Airbnb has announced that 74 00:03:20,434 --> 00:03:24,438 it will no longer allow people to list former slave cabins 75 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:26,273 as vacation rentals 76 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:29,309 after one listing caused an uproar online. 77 00:03:29,409 --> 00:03:31,411 And this must be one of those things that, 78 00:03:31,512 --> 00:03:33,914 probably, white people-- I mean-- 79 00:03:34,081 --> 00:03:35,549 No, 'cause, as a Black person, 80 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:37,918 there's no way I'm vacationing in a slave cabin. 81 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:39,419 I don't care if it's a former slave cabin, 82 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,954 I don't care if it's renovate-- There's no Black person 83 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:43,423 who's like, "Yeah, this is where I want to spend my vacation." 84 00:03:43,524 --> 00:03:46,593 So, good for Airbnb. I will say this-- if I owned Airbnb, 85 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:48,328 I wouldn't cancel these listings. 86 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:50,397 I would say, "Yeah, you can stay there if you want, 87 00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:52,099 but you gonna have to have the real experience." 88 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:53,500 Yeah. 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,469 Just surprise those people. Barge into the cabin 90 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:57,004 at 6:00 a.m. like, "Here's your basket! 91 00:03:57,104 --> 00:03:59,373 Fill it up! Gonna whip your ass--" 92 00:03:59,473 --> 00:04:01,208 "I just wanted to see what it was like!" 93 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:03,844 "Well, now you're seeing." 94 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:05,045 But, anyway, let's move on to some 95 00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:06,813 of the bigger news stories of the day. 96 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:09,850 First up, yesterday we had another round 97 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:11,885 of primary elections in America. 98 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:13,287 And I'm just going to say this. 99 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:15,455 This country has too many elections, all right? 100 00:04:15,556 --> 00:04:17,424 Yeah, every week it's like, "It's time to vote." 101 00:04:17,524 --> 00:04:18,425 "But we voted last week." 102 00:04:18,525 --> 00:04:19,693 "No, that was the vote 103 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:21,428 "to vote for who we're voting for this week. 104 00:04:21,528 --> 00:04:24,231 "Then we'll vote on when we'll vote for the next vote. 105 00:04:24,331 --> 00:04:28,101 Vote, vote, votey-vote, vote, vote, vote, vote." 106 00:04:28,202 --> 00:04:30,671 So let's check in on the results of these votes. 107 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:32,072 (laughs) 108 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:35,242 In our ongoing coverage of Votedemic 2022. 109 00:04:36,343 --> 00:04:39,913 (applause and cheering) 110 00:04:41,982 --> 00:04:45,085 So, last night was a very good night 111 00:04:45,185 --> 00:04:47,688 for Donald "Jigglypuff" Trump. 112 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:50,157 In Michigan his candidate defeated 113 00:04:50,257 --> 00:04:52,326 a Republican who voted to impeach him. 114 00:04:52,426 --> 00:04:55,562 In Arizona his candidates won the primaries 115 00:04:55,662 --> 00:04:58,232 for senate and secretary of state. 116 00:04:58,332 --> 00:05:01,468 And in Missouri the Eric he endorsed 117 00:05:01,568 --> 00:05:05,339 beat the other Eric that he endorsed. (laughs) 118 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:07,040 Yeah, it was the best night for Trump he's had 119 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,942 that didn't end with someone signing an NDA. 120 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:12,846 And these Arizona races could have national implications 121 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:15,249 because these Republicans, you have to understand, 122 00:05:15,349 --> 00:05:16,483 the ones who are winning now, 123 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:20,521 they all believe in crazy conspiracy theories 124 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:24,625 about Biden stealing the election in 2020. 125 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:26,860 So if they win the final races, 126 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,865 they could end up in charge of counting the votes in 2024. 127 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:33,534 I don't know about you, but I know for certain 128 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:35,068 I do not trust them with that job. 129 00:05:35,169 --> 00:05:37,271 Can you imagine what it'll be like? 130 00:05:37,371 --> 00:05:39,873 All right, another vote, another vote for Trump, 131 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:41,408 that's a Trump vote. 132 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:43,210 That's ano-- that's a Trump, yeah, I saw that. 133 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:45,312 That was Trump. Wh-What you doing there? 134 00:05:45,412 --> 00:05:46,480 That's another-- yeah, that's another... 135 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:48,081 I'm counting. That's Trump as well. 136 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:50,651 Yeah, put it in, put-- that's it, Trump again. 137 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:53,387 What-what was...? Look at that, that person spelled Trump wrong. 138 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:56,690 He said "B-I-D-E-N." That's not how you spell Trump! 139 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:58,225 What the...? He spelled it wrong. 140 00:05:58,325 --> 00:06:00,527 That's-- all right, what's the final tally? What's that? 141 00:06:00,627 --> 00:06:03,330 Trump-- one bazillion, Biden-- minus ten. 142 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:05,532 I think I did a good job. 143 00:06:05,632 --> 00:06:07,501 Don't say I didn't warn you. 144 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:09,937 (applause) 145 00:06:10,037 --> 00:06:12,706 Now, there is, there is some good news. 146 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:14,508 Other than the Trump virus spreading 147 00:06:14,608 --> 00:06:16,376 through the Republican Party like Vecna, 148 00:06:16,476 --> 00:06:19,613 last night was actually a really good night 149 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:22,049 for anyone who believes a woman should have a right to choose 150 00:06:22,082 --> 00:06:26,220 what happens in her own body, and it's all thanks to Kansas. 151 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,055 NEWSWOMAN: In conservative Kansas this morning, 152 00:06:28,088 --> 00:06:29,623 a political earthquake 153 00:06:29,723 --> 00:06:32,693 and a big win for abortion rights supporters. 154 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:34,695 Kansas voters rejecting an amendment 155 00:06:34,795 --> 00:06:36,864 that would have removed abortion protections 156 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:38,498 from the state constitution, 157 00:06:38,599 --> 00:06:41,201 in effect keeping access to the procedure there. 158 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:45,205 The turnout on a 100-degree day in the middle of summer 159 00:06:45,305 --> 00:06:48,742 was 53%, historically high. 160 00:06:48,842 --> 00:06:50,744 They've never seen anything like this. 161 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,980 This is Barack Obama's numbers. 162 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,583 Our state stood up and said no. 163 00:06:56,683 --> 00:07:00,854 We're the first ones to say no, so I'm just-- I'm overjoyed. 164 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:03,724 Wow. Kansas, amazing. 165 00:07:03,824 --> 00:07:05,792 -Absolutely... -(cheers and applause). 166 00:07:05,893 --> 00:07:07,761 ...amazing. 167 00:07:07,861 --> 00:07:10,030 Congratulations, Kansas. 168 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:12,266 It's moments like these I wish I knew 169 00:07:12,366 --> 00:07:15,102 which one of these states you were. 170 00:07:15,202 --> 00:07:17,838 But either way, congratulations. 171 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:19,039 No, for real though, for real. 172 00:07:19,072 --> 00:07:20,841 This is a huge pro-choice victory 173 00:07:20,941 --> 00:07:23,410 and it's especially amazing that it happened in Kansas, 174 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:26,380 a state so red that Trump won it by 14 points. 175 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,415 Yeah. No one expected this. 176 00:07:28,515 --> 00:07:30,317 This was a bigger shock than when Batgirl 177 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:33,053 found out that her real nemesis is the CEO of Warner Bros. 178 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,055 And this is where you realize... 179 00:07:35,088 --> 00:07:36,690 this is where you realize as well 180 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:41,261 the antiabortion views of right-wing lawmakers 181 00:07:41,361 --> 00:07:42,863 and some people on the Supreme Court, 182 00:07:42,963 --> 00:07:46,667 they don't mirror what actual Americans want. 183 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:49,469 -Right? -(applause) 184 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:52,072 It's not accurate. 185 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:55,342 And that's a huge problem in this country. 186 00:07:55,442 --> 00:07:57,744 It's like letting the craziest dude in your friend group 187 00:07:57,845 --> 00:08:00,013 plan your bachelor party. 188 00:08:00,113 --> 00:08:02,082 You're gonna be like, "I just wanted to play beer pong. 189 00:08:02,182 --> 00:08:03,617 "How did we end up in a Bangkok prison? 190 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:06,253 Not cool, Samuel." 191 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,357 Oh, and speaking of earth-shattering news, 192 00:08:10,457 --> 00:08:15,128 Beyoncé is changing her album again. 193 00:08:15,229 --> 00:08:19,032 Yeah. First she took out the word "spaz" from a song 194 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:22,135 because some people complained that it was ableist, all right, 195 00:08:22,236 --> 00:08:25,506 and now she's removing a sample from one of her other songs 196 00:08:25,606 --> 00:08:27,574 because Kelis complained 197 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:30,577 that she didn't get any credit from it. 198 00:08:30,677 --> 00:08:32,446 And look, I get what Beyoncé is doing. 199 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:34,448 It's very nice. 200 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:36,450 But I also should point out 201 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:39,119 this could turn into a major disaster. 202 00:08:39,219 --> 00:08:40,521 'Cause you realize now, 203 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:43,657 depending on when you listened to the album, 204 00:08:43,757 --> 00:08:45,058 you could be hearing completely different songs. 205 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:46,460 (laughter) 206 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:47,794 Yeah, it's just going to change. 207 00:08:47,895 --> 00:08:49,096 You don't even know what the thing's going to be. 208 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:50,697 Like, I heard ♪ You won't break my soul. ♪ 209 00:08:50,797 --> 00:08:52,666 Then someone else is like ♪ You won't score a goal. ♪ 210 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:54,468 Someone else is like ♪ Someone check this mole. ♪ 211 00:08:54,568 --> 00:08:56,136 You don't know. 212 00:08:56,236 --> 00:08:58,906 Can you imagine the chaos this is going to cause. 213 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:01,775 (applause) 214 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:03,677 Yeah, the next time you're at a Beyoncé concert, 215 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:05,279 Beyoncé's gonna be like, "Everyone sing along." 216 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:08,348 We're going to be like, "We can't! Which version?" 217 00:09:08,448 --> 00:09:10,384 (yelling) 218 00:09:11,552 --> 00:09:14,621 Oh, and because Beyoncé is now taking requests, 219 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:16,757 Monica Lewinsky, sent out a tweet 220 00:09:16,857 --> 00:09:20,394 basically saying what about removing her name 221 00:09:20,494 --> 00:09:23,931 in one of Beyoncé's old songs "Partition." Right. 222 00:09:24,031 --> 00:09:25,265 It's a song where Beyoncé sang 223 00:09:25,365 --> 00:09:28,702 "He Monica Lewinsky'd all on my gown." 224 00:09:28,802 --> 00:09:29,903 -(audience groaning) -Yeah. 225 00:09:30,037 --> 00:09:32,372 And I mean, I think we can all see why 226 00:09:32,472 --> 00:09:34,474 Monica wouldn't want that in a song. 227 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:36,043 (laughter) 228 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:37,277 And for me personally, 229 00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:39,613 I also think Beyoncé should change it in the song 230 00:09:39,713 --> 00:09:41,048 'cause it's not right. 231 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:44,351 Technically it should be "He Bill Clinton'd on my gown." 232 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:46,520 'Cause that's the guy who did all the jizzing. 233 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:47,821 (applause, whooping) 234 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:51,058 You got to remember who did the thing. 235 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:52,559 I'm not saying Beyoncé did anything wrong. 236 00:09:52,659 --> 00:09:54,161 I'm just saying, Beyoncé, you have under understand, 237 00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:55,562 with the way American schools teach history, 238 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:57,865 your songs might be the only way children learn. 239 00:09:57,965 --> 00:10:01,869 It needs to be accurate, Beyoncé, please. 240 00:10:01,969 --> 00:10:03,871 So whether you agree with it or not, 241 00:10:03,971 --> 00:10:05,105 Beyoncé has made her choice. 242 00:10:05,205 --> 00:10:06,373 And good for her. 243 00:10:06,473 --> 00:10:07,808 In fact, you know what I think? 244 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:09,476 They should say some artists have to be forced to do it. 245 00:10:09,576 --> 00:10:11,745 Beyoncé was nice. Some artists have to be forced. 246 00:10:11,845 --> 00:10:13,413 Yeah. Like R. Kelly. 247 00:10:13,514 --> 00:10:15,816 -(groaning, chuckling) -Yeah, part of his sentence should be 248 00:10:15,916 --> 00:10:19,553 that he has to go back and redo all of his old songs. 249 00:10:19,653 --> 00:10:22,122 'Cause age is not just a number. 250 00:10:22,222 --> 00:10:23,123 Yeah. 251 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,191 Warn back in the studio. 252 00:10:24,291 --> 00:10:25,592 ♪ My mind's telling me no ♪ 253 00:10:25,692 --> 00:10:27,194 "And now my body understands why it's a no. 254 00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:29,096 "My body completely understands. 255 00:10:29,196 --> 00:10:31,965 -My body completely understands." -(applause) 256 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:37,771 Oh, and speaking of people who wish they could go back 257 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:39,640 and change the past, Alex Jones, 258 00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:42,242 far-right-wing commentator and man who makes Donald Trump 259 00:10:42,342 --> 00:10:43,510 look like a reasonable human being, 260 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:45,245 is currently on trial 261 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:49,349 for spreading lies about the Sandy Hook shooting. 262 00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:51,418 Right? Saying that it was all a hoax. 263 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:54,021 And today in the trial, one of the funniest moments came... 264 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:56,757 (chuckles) when he found out 265 00:10:56,857 --> 00:10:59,326 that his inept lawyer had screwed up 266 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:01,962 and sent the prosecution evidence 267 00:11:02,062 --> 00:11:05,599 that proved Alex Jones committed perjury. 268 00:11:05,699 --> 00:11:07,568 MARK BANKSTON: Mr. Jones, 269 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:09,970 did you know that, 12 days ago, 270 00:11:10,070 --> 00:11:11,638 12 days ago, 271 00:11:11,738 --> 00:11:13,207 your attorneys messed up 272 00:11:13,307 --> 00:11:16,276 and sent me an entire digital copy 273 00:11:16,376 --> 00:11:18,378 of your entire cell phone 274 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:20,747 with every text message you've sent 275 00:11:20,848 --> 00:11:22,449 for the past two years 276 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:23,817 and, when informed, 277 00:11:23,917 --> 00:11:26,820 did not take any steps to identify it as privileged 278 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,655 or protect it in any way? 279 00:11:28,755 --> 00:11:30,090 And as of two days ago, 280 00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:31,992 it fell free and clear into my possession, 281 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:34,628 and that is how I know you lied to me 282 00:11:34,728 --> 00:11:37,097 when you said you didn't have text messages about Sandy Hook. 283 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,499 -Did you know that? -If I was mistaken, I was mistaken. 284 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,435 But you-you got the messages right there. 285 00:11:41,535 --> 00:11:42,903 I mean, I-I'm not a tech guy. 286 00:11:43,003 --> 00:11:45,372 I told you, I gave, in my testimony, 287 00:11:45,472 --> 00:11:47,808 the phone to the lawyers before or whatever. 288 00:11:47,908 --> 00:11:50,210 And-and so you've got my phone, but we didn't give it to you. 289 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:51,245 No, Mr. Jones. 290 00:11:51,345 --> 00:11:53,113 (coughs loudly) 291 00:11:53,213 --> 00:11:56,116 -(laughing) -(laughter, applause) 292 00:11:57,718 --> 00:12:00,053 Oh, shit, that was funny! 293 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,154 Oh, man. 294 00:12:01,255 --> 00:12:02,589 I like how he was-- he was so shocked, 295 00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:04,191 he started turning into every emoji. 296 00:12:04,291 --> 00:12:06,093 He was like... (grunting) 297 00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:10,264 At one point, he even tried to give himself COVID. 298 00:12:10,364 --> 00:12:12,366 Did you see? It was like... (coughs) "I can't speak. 299 00:12:12,466 --> 00:12:13,834 "You know the disease I said is fake? 300 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:16,236 Yeah, I got it. I've got it now. I got it." 301 00:12:16,336 --> 00:12:18,105 You know you're in trouble when the truth chokes you up 302 00:12:18,205 --> 00:12:19,640 like you're on an episode of Hot Ones. 303 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:20,774 You know? With those spicy wings. 304 00:12:20,874 --> 00:12:22,176 Just like... (groaning, coughing) 305 00:12:22,276 --> 00:12:24,311 "I'm sorry, what did I say? Ah-ha-ha." 306 00:12:24,411 --> 00:12:25,979 But you realize, you realize, this moment, 307 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,080 this moment is huge. 308 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:28,315 Right? Because it shows 309 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:30,951 that Alex Jones probably committed perjury. 310 00:12:31,084 --> 00:12:33,820 Which means Alex Jones lies about stuff. 311 00:12:33,921 --> 00:12:35,322 -(chuckling) -Yeah. 312 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,191 I know. That's shocking. 'Cause now I'm starting to wonder, 313 00:12:37,291 --> 00:12:39,359 does that mean chemtrails from planes 314 00:12:39,459 --> 00:12:41,628 aren't turning the frogs gay? (gasps) 315 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:44,198 Was that also a lie? 316 00:12:44,298 --> 00:12:46,667 And, by the way, where did he get that lawyer? 317 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,268 (laughter) 318 00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:50,404 Can we just-- can we just talk about that? 319 00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:51,538 'Cause did you see how the lawyer is just sitting there, 320 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:53,807 like... (scatting) 321 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:58,278 I would love to be there for that classic 322 00:12:58,378 --> 00:13:00,347 lawyer-client conversation during recess, 323 00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:01,415 always just standing together. 324 00:13:01,515 --> 00:13:03,050 "So, uh, how do you think it's going?" 325 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:05,285 It's like, "Well, uh, apart from the fact that I, uh, 326 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:06,520 "screwed this whole thing up worse 327 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:07,588 "than any lawyer in history, 328 00:13:07,688 --> 00:13:08,722 "I think we still have a shot! 329 00:13:08,822 --> 00:13:10,290 I think we still have a shot." 330 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:11,358 All right, that's it for the headlines. 331 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:12,459 But before we go to a quick break, 332 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,460 let's check in on the stock market 333 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,828 with our very own finance expert, 334 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:16,363 Michael Kosta, everybody! 335 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:18,498 (cheering and applause) 336 00:13:20,067 --> 00:13:22,069 Michael, the markets are crazy, man. 337 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:24,271 -Yeah. -What's happening in the market today? 338 00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:25,806 I'm crushing it, man. 339 00:13:25,906 --> 00:13:27,708 -Uh, I'm crushing it. -That's what you always say. 340 00:13:27,808 --> 00:13:30,077 I'm like Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker 341 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:32,946 'cause I'm in Crush Hour 2, ladies and gentlemen, all right? 342 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,616 -You always say this, Kosta. -And I got a hot tip for you. 343 00:13:35,716 --> 00:13:37,584 You want to make some money like Kosta makes money? 344 00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:39,152 All right? I got a hot tip for you, 345 00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:40,888 -so pay attention, all right? -Okay. Okay. 346 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:43,090 what we got here is, the last five months, 347 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:45,759 the gasoline price... Actually before... 348 00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:48,462 Do you mind? That story about the Airbnb 349 00:13:48,562 --> 00:13:49,863 -slavery story. -Yeah. 350 00:13:49,963 --> 00:13:51,532 You know what I am saying? Like, look, 351 00:13:51,632 --> 00:13:52,966 they shouldn't be renting that out, 352 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:56,103 but I appreciate them being honest, you know? 353 00:13:56,203 --> 00:13:57,571 Every time I rent an Airbnb, 354 00:13:57,671 --> 00:13:59,706 they're not honest about the pictures. 355 00:13:59,806 --> 00:14:02,476 You said... you said it was a two-bedroom quaint apartment? 356 00:14:02,576 --> 00:14:04,778 I didn't know "quaint" meant "haunted," okay? 357 00:14:04,878 --> 00:14:06,547 -(laughter) -Let's be honest. 358 00:14:06,647 --> 00:14:10,584 Airbnb is just catfish for a house, okay? 359 00:14:10,684 --> 00:14:12,653 Look, I don't want to sleep where slavery happened. 360 00:14:12,753 --> 00:14:14,321 I'd prefer a hotel. I'd rather sleep 361 00:14:14,421 --> 00:14:15,856 where lifeless, middle-aged, 362 00:14:15,956 --> 00:14:17,858 missionary-position sex happened, but... 363 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,860 (laughter) 364 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,261 This is terrible. 365 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,430 I mean, marketing off of slavery? That's not cool. 366 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:27,067 -Right. -Using slavery to make a buck, exploiting suffering? 367 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:29,136 That's why I don't use Airbnb. 368 00:14:29,236 --> 00:14:34,541 Instead, Trevor I'm a slave to BargainHotels.Net. 369 00:14:34,641 --> 00:14:37,744 -Book a bargain today. -(laughter) 370 00:14:37,845 --> 00:14:40,080 -What? -Let's get to the chart, okay? 371 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:41,715 So, Trevor, these are the gas... 372 00:14:41,815 --> 00:14:44,518 Actually, actually, that other story about the Earth spinning, 373 00:14:44,618 --> 00:14:46,119 the Earth spinning so fast. 374 00:14:46,220 --> 00:14:48,222 I'm a financial expert, I'm not a scientist, 375 00:14:48,322 --> 00:14:49,990 but I'm pretty sure this is happening 376 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:52,693 because of the large population in Asia, okay? 377 00:14:52,793 --> 00:14:54,261 Think about it. 378 00:14:54,361 --> 00:14:57,197 If one part of the Earth is a lot heavier than the other, 379 00:14:57,297 --> 00:14:59,733 -Jesus. -...when the Earth spins... 380 00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:02,569 Okay, spinning, spinning, spinning, gets to Asia. 381 00:15:02,669 --> 00:15:04,371 -Wham! Whip! Spin. -(laughter) 382 00:15:04,471 --> 00:15:06,773 -Gets to Asia, whip. -(applause) 383 00:15:06,874 --> 00:15:09,109 -Think about it. Think about it. -You know what? 384 00:15:09,209 --> 00:15:10,777 You're right. You're not a scientist. Just tell us 385 00:15:10,878 --> 00:15:12,679 -what's happening in the markets, Kosta. -Okay, okay. 386 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:15,816 This is the price of gasoline over the last five months, 387 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:17,584 and it's been a wild ride, okay? 388 00:15:17,684 --> 00:15:19,520 I mean, this reminds me of the last time 389 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:22,055 I took ayahuasca and went on the C Train, okay? 390 00:15:22,155 --> 00:15:23,624 I mean, those Showtime guys-- 391 00:15:23,724 --> 00:15:24,925 I thought they were my father, okay? 392 00:15:25,058 --> 00:15:27,594 But, look, here's the good news, all right? 393 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:30,330 The price of gas is back down. 394 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:33,433 Now the bad news is that as gasoline gets cheaper, 395 00:15:33,534 --> 00:15:35,802 arson is gonna go up, okay? 396 00:15:35,903 --> 00:15:40,541 It's just so much cheaper to commit arson now. 397 00:15:40,641 --> 00:15:43,544 Even I've been thinking about it more, okay? 398 00:15:43,644 --> 00:15:45,579 Trevor, between us guys, all right, 399 00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:48,849 it leaves no evidence, you get the insurance money, 400 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:51,752 -and it kills all the spiders. -(laughter) 401 00:15:51,852 --> 00:15:55,155 All right, hot tip? I promised you a hot tip, all right? 402 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:58,192 Booking a hotel room can feel like a lot of labor. 403 00:15:58,292 --> 00:16:01,528 Ease the burden with BargainHotels.Net. 404 00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:03,797 -Tell 'em Kosta sent you. -Do not tell them Kosta anything. 405 00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:05,332 Michael Kosta, everybody. 406 00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:07,568 (applause and cheering) 407 00:16:07,668 --> 00:16:09,570 I don't even want to know what that website is. 408 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:11,405 All right, when we come back, we're going to be talking 409 00:16:11,505 --> 00:16:14,675 about how student debt is out of control so don't go away. 410 00:16:14,775 --> 00:16:17,878 (cheering, applause) 411 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:24,465 (cheering, applause) 412 00:16:31,272 --> 00:16:34,208 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 413 00:16:34,308 --> 00:16:36,777 Let's talk about student debt. 414 00:16:36,877 --> 00:16:40,281 It's as American as milk that isn't milk. 415 00:16:40,381 --> 00:16:42,917 Millions of Americans are college graduates, 416 00:16:43,017 --> 00:16:44,585 which is great. College provides you 417 00:16:44,685 --> 00:16:47,121 job skills, it exposes you to new ideas, 418 00:16:47,221 --> 00:16:50,124 it gives you a friend named Chad who's like a brother. 419 00:16:50,224 --> 00:16:52,760 Even though he spilled bong water all inside your car. 420 00:16:52,860 --> 00:16:56,163 I love you, Chad, but you're a dick. 421 00:16:56,263 --> 00:16:58,366 But because America doesn't properly subsidize 422 00:16:58,466 --> 00:17:00,401 higher education like almost every other 423 00:17:00,501 --> 00:17:02,803 developed nation in the world, the number of Americans 424 00:17:02,903 --> 00:17:06,140 with student debt is higher now than ever before. 425 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,577 And student debt is a lot like an STD. 426 00:17:09,677 --> 00:17:12,279 Yes, you can get it by accident in college, 427 00:17:12,380 --> 00:17:14,982 but then it follows you around for the rest of your life. 428 00:17:15,082 --> 00:17:18,052 And when I say the rest of your life, I mean it. 429 00:17:18,152 --> 00:17:19,887 There is a ticking time bomb 430 00:17:19,987 --> 00:17:21,922 looming over the American economy. 431 00:17:22,023 --> 00:17:24,592 Nearly two trillion dollars in student loans 432 00:17:24,692 --> 00:17:27,595 owed by 50 million borrowers. 433 00:17:27,695 --> 00:17:30,631 And this is not just a problem for younger Americans. 434 00:17:30,731 --> 00:17:33,934 Those over 50 years old have the fastest-growing 435 00:17:34,035 --> 00:17:36,971 student loan debt burden of any age group. 436 00:17:37,071 --> 00:17:40,308 NEWSMAN: 40% of Americans 65 and older are in default. 437 00:17:40,408 --> 00:17:43,611 And Washington will collect, by garnishing 438 00:17:43,711 --> 00:17:46,614 the Social Security of seniors in default. 439 00:17:46,714 --> 00:17:48,549 We met Seraphina Galante 440 00:17:48,649 --> 00:17:51,252 on the campus of San Diego State. 441 00:17:51,352 --> 00:17:53,421 Galante had to pause making payments 442 00:17:53,554 --> 00:17:55,656 four times for various life problems. 443 00:17:55,756 --> 00:17:59,026 But the bigger issue: she got older. 444 00:17:59,126 --> 00:18:01,295 She can only work part time. 445 00:18:01,395 --> 00:18:04,065 Her monthly payment-- $176-- 446 00:18:04,165 --> 00:18:08,269 is income-based and doesn't even cover the interest. 447 00:18:08,369 --> 00:18:10,004 This is gonna follow you forever. 448 00:18:10,104 --> 00:18:11,939 This will follow me to my grave. 449 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:14,642 Yeah. When you picture someone with student debt, 450 00:18:14,742 --> 00:18:16,777 you might think of the cast of Girls, 451 00:18:16,877 --> 00:18:19,180 but you should be thinking 452 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,382 of the cast of Golden Girls. 453 00:18:21,515 --> 00:18:23,651 Because eight million borrowers over 50 454 00:18:23,751 --> 00:18:26,754 hold nearly a quarter of all federal student debt. 455 00:18:26,854 --> 00:18:27,888 (light gasping) 456 00:18:27,989 --> 00:18:29,190 And the craziest thing is, some of them 457 00:18:29,290 --> 00:18:31,959 are even having their Social Security checks 458 00:18:32,059 --> 00:18:33,928 garnished to pay it off. 459 00:18:34,028 --> 00:18:35,196 And, by the way, when they say "garnished," 460 00:18:35,296 --> 00:18:37,732 it means the money is taken out of the check. 461 00:18:37,832 --> 00:18:39,000 Right? They're not putting a little parsley 462 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,735 on the side of their checks to make it fancy. 463 00:18:41,702 --> 00:18:43,404 This is a terrifying situation to be in. 464 00:18:43,537 --> 00:18:45,239 It's embarrassing. I mean, you heard that woman. 465 00:18:45,339 --> 00:18:47,541 Her loans might follow her to her grave. 466 00:18:47,608 --> 00:18:49,410 That is disgusting. 467 00:18:49,543 --> 00:18:50,745 When you're-- when you're on your deathbed, 468 00:18:50,845 --> 00:18:53,214 you shouldn't be thinking about college loans. 469 00:18:53,314 --> 00:18:54,682 You know? You should be thinking of, like, 470 00:18:54,782 --> 00:18:55,950 a cool deathbed confession 471 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:58,452 that'll mess with your family when you're gone. 472 00:18:58,552 --> 00:19:00,621 You know? Just be like, "Your real father is..." 473 00:19:00,721 --> 00:19:02,957 (mimics flatlining) 474 00:19:03,057 --> 00:19:04,325 Keep everybody guessing. 475 00:19:04,425 --> 00:19:06,460 (applause) 476 00:19:07,561 --> 00:19:08,796 The point is, 477 00:19:08,896 --> 00:19:11,899 America needs solutions to the student debt crisis. 478 00:19:11,999 --> 00:19:13,834 And it could be canceling student loans. 479 00:19:13,934 --> 00:19:15,903 It could be guaranteeing free education. 480 00:19:16,003 --> 00:19:18,072 You know? It could even be punishing colleges 481 00:19:18,172 --> 00:19:21,042 if their graduates can't get the jobs that pay their loans. 482 00:19:21,142 --> 00:19:22,410 -Yeah. -(cheering) 483 00:19:22,510 --> 00:19:24,145 I think that's actually an interesting idea. 484 00:19:24,245 --> 00:19:25,212 (cheering and applause) 485 00:19:25,313 --> 00:19:26,380 Colleges will be like, "Oh, come on in. 486 00:19:26,514 --> 00:19:27,581 You'll get a job. You'll get a job." 487 00:19:27,682 --> 00:19:28,949 And then what happens if you don't? 488 00:19:29,050 --> 00:19:30,518 If I was a college dean, I would be a lot more concerned 489 00:19:30,551 --> 00:19:32,253 about my students getting jobs and graduating 490 00:19:32,353 --> 00:19:34,121 if, otherwise, I'd have to let them move in with me. 491 00:19:34,221 --> 00:19:35,389 Then people will be committed. 492 00:19:35,523 --> 00:19:36,590 Be like, "Damn it, Chad! 493 00:19:36,691 --> 00:19:39,160 "You spilled bong water all over my foyer! 494 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:41,529 I love you, but you're a dick." 495 00:19:41,595 --> 00:19:42,830 Whatever the solution is, 496 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:45,399 America cannot allow people to be so burdened by debt 497 00:19:45,533 --> 00:19:47,401 it follows them to the grave. 498 00:19:47,535 --> 00:19:49,136 Especially because 499 00:19:49,236 --> 00:19:52,139 it would make for a very awkward reading of the will. 500 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,943 Today we'll be reading from the will 501 00:19:56,043 --> 00:19:58,546 of Stanley McCormick, 502 00:19:58,579 --> 00:20:01,682 who died at the age of 89 last month 503 00:20:01,782 --> 00:20:04,685 while having sex on a hot air balloon. 504 00:20:05,653 --> 00:20:07,321 That's how he wanted to go. 505 00:20:08,556 --> 00:20:10,791 Mr. McCormick has left instructions 506 00:20:10,891 --> 00:20:13,127 for the distribution of his estate. 507 00:20:13,227 --> 00:20:15,663 First, his life savings. 508 00:20:15,763 --> 00:20:18,265 All of which go to... 509 00:20:18,366 --> 00:20:19,567 Brent. 510 00:20:20,635 --> 00:20:22,403 -I'm sorry, who? -Brent. 511 00:20:22,503 --> 00:20:24,372 ♪ ♪ 512 00:20:24,505 --> 00:20:27,308 He's the collection agent 513 00:20:27,408 --> 00:20:28,676 for your dad's student loans. 514 00:20:31,178 --> 00:20:32,747 Sorry for your loss. 515 00:20:32,847 --> 00:20:35,783 So Dad was paying student loans for 60 years? 516 00:20:35,883 --> 00:20:37,785 He just had 15 more years to go. 517 00:20:37,885 --> 00:20:39,720 (clears throat) Poor bastard. 518 00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:42,023 Let's move on to the material assets. 519 00:20:42,123 --> 00:20:45,092 The car has been left to... Brent. 520 00:20:45,192 --> 00:20:47,361 I thought I was getting the Tercel. 521 00:20:47,528 --> 00:20:49,830 The residence located at 110 Pine Lane-- 522 00:20:49,930 --> 00:20:51,399 -Brent. -Score! 523 00:20:51,532 --> 00:20:53,834 The family China set 524 00:20:53,934 --> 00:20:58,039 smuggled out of Poland at the dawn of World War II. 525 00:20:58,139 --> 00:21:00,308 -Don't say "Brent." -Brent. 526 00:21:00,408 --> 00:21:02,677 -Come on! -I don't even like China. -Brent, 527 00:21:02,777 --> 00:21:04,979 can we please have that one? 528 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:06,747 -It's really special to our family. -Don't worry. 529 00:21:06,847 --> 00:21:08,816 This is gonna bring the interest rate on his loan up 530 00:21:08,916 --> 00:21:11,352 -to seven percent. -I'm sorry. It's going up to seven percent? 531 00:21:11,452 --> 00:21:12,920 Student loans are funny. (laughs) 532 00:21:13,921 --> 00:21:15,723 (dish breaking) 533 00:21:15,823 --> 00:21:17,958 -What the...? -The antique watch-- 534 00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:20,895 -Brent. -(ticking) 535 00:21:20,995 --> 00:21:22,730 The pipe collection-- Brent. 536 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:23,764 (coughing) 537 00:21:23,864 --> 00:21:25,900 The beloved banjo-- Brent. 538 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,036 ♪ ♪ 539 00:21:29,136 --> 00:21:32,340 Skee-Ball tickets-- Brent. 540 00:21:32,506 --> 00:21:35,042 And finally, his grandchildren's drawings. 541 00:21:35,142 --> 00:21:38,713 -Brent. -How are those going to pay down his loans? 542 00:21:38,813 --> 00:21:40,214 I turn this shit into an NFT. 543 00:21:40,314 --> 00:21:43,351 And that covers everything. 544 00:21:43,517 --> 00:21:45,519 -(sighs) -He did not do well in life. 545 00:21:45,553 --> 00:21:47,321 -That's for sure. -I didn't even know he went 546 00:21:47,421 --> 00:21:48,689 -to college. -I didn't... 547 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:50,524 -He didn't brag about it a lot. -I'm sorry. The car. 548 00:21:50,591 --> 00:21:52,693 -Is this guy...? -So we get nothing? 549 00:21:52,793 --> 00:21:56,163 Didn't you need grandad's stuff to pay off your student's loans? 550 00:21:56,263 --> 00:21:59,066 -Shut up. -BRENT: Can I get a little help here? 551 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:01,202 I got a heavy load. 552 00:22:01,302 --> 00:22:02,803 All right, stay tuned, because after a break, 553 00:22:02,903 --> 00:22:06,107 we're going to find out why fish might have feelings. 554 00:22:06,207 --> 00:22:07,775 Don't go away. 555 00:22:07,875 --> 00:22:10,211 (applause and cheering) 556 00:22:17,719 --> 00:22:20,922 (applause) 557 00:22:21,022 --> 00:22:22,357 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 558 00:22:22,457 --> 00:22:24,225 My guest tonight is a really interesting young man 559 00:22:24,325 --> 00:22:27,662 by the name of Ryuji Chua. He's an activist and a filmmaker 560 00:22:27,762 --> 00:22:30,698 who makes educational content about animal rights. 561 00:22:30,798 --> 00:22:33,635 He's here to talk about his independent documentary 562 00:22:33,735 --> 00:22:36,504 How Conscious Can a Fish Be? 563 00:22:36,604 --> 00:22:38,773 CHUA: The theory of evolution uncovers that traits 564 00:22:38,873 --> 00:22:40,808 that are better suited to help an animal 565 00:22:40,908 --> 00:22:42,810 survive and reproduce in their environment 566 00:22:42,910 --> 00:22:45,680 will get passed down through generations. 567 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:48,883 But that's not just limited to physical traits. 568 00:22:48,983 --> 00:22:51,753 Behavioral traits, personality and intelligence 569 00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:54,756 all also play a role in helping an animal 570 00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:56,824 successfully survive and reproduce. 571 00:22:56,925 --> 00:23:00,228 And so, also evolve and develop over time. 572 00:23:00,328 --> 00:23:02,730 The ocean is a harsh environment, 573 00:23:02,830 --> 00:23:04,766 and fish have to solve problems 574 00:23:04,866 --> 00:23:08,069 and deal with strangers every single day. 575 00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:11,105 In other words, it pays off 576 00:23:11,205 --> 00:23:12,407 to be smart down there. 577 00:23:12,507 --> 00:23:14,742 Please welcome Ryuji Chua. 578 00:23:14,842 --> 00:23:16,878 -♪ ♪ -(cheering, applause) 579 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,814 Thank you. Thank you so much. 580 00:23:19,914 --> 00:23:21,950 Welcome. 581 00:23:27,221 --> 00:23:28,156 Welcome to the show. 582 00:23:28,256 --> 00:23:29,157 Thank you so much for having me. 583 00:23:29,257 --> 00:23:30,525 It's, like, such an honor. 584 00:23:30,625 --> 00:23:33,361 It is-- it's-it's a really interesting conversation 585 00:23:33,461 --> 00:23:35,997 that you are having, not just in this documentary but online. 586 00:23:36,097 --> 00:23:38,299 You know, what-what I love about the world we live in today 587 00:23:38,399 --> 00:23:40,835 is you can see so many interesting people, 588 00:23:40,868 --> 00:23:42,203 so many different points of view, 589 00:23:42,303 --> 00:23:44,038 and it's all because we're connected on social media. 590 00:23:44,138 --> 00:23:46,407 You've built up quite a following as someone 591 00:23:46,507 --> 00:23:48,643 who's a passionate animal rights activist, 592 00:23:48,743 --> 00:23:50,845 and this documentary in particular is one where 593 00:23:50,945 --> 00:23:52,213 some people are shocked, because they go, 594 00:23:52,313 --> 00:23:54,849 "Wait, wait, Ryuji-- Ryuji, you've gone too far." 595 00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:58,319 You're saying that fish can be conscious. 596 00:23:58,419 --> 00:24:00,088 Yeah, yeah. 597 00:24:01,923 --> 00:24:03,291 Yeah, so, you know, the thing is that growing up, 598 00:24:03,391 --> 00:24:05,293 I didn't think this. Right? 599 00:24:05,393 --> 00:24:07,028 I think, like many people, I grew up to think that 600 00:24:07,128 --> 00:24:09,130 fish were these stupid, unconscious animals 601 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:11,866 -who have a three-second memory and can't feel pain. -Uh-huh. 602 00:24:11,966 --> 00:24:13,368 And that would be been fine, forgivable, 603 00:24:13,468 --> 00:24:16,004 if I was, like, in 1703. 604 00:24:16,104 --> 00:24:18,339 But the thing is that today there is a mountain of evidence 605 00:24:18,439 --> 00:24:20,608 produced through years of research that suggests 606 00:24:20,708 --> 00:24:22,877 that fish feel, think, and suffer 607 00:24:22,977 --> 00:24:24,545 like dogs, cats, and other animals. 608 00:24:24,646 --> 00:24:26,547 It's interesting that you, that you say that, because, like, 609 00:24:26,648 --> 00:24:27,815 you know, when we, when we think 610 00:24:27,882 --> 00:24:29,017 about the world we're living in today, 611 00:24:29,117 --> 00:24:30,952 there's no denying that, you know, 612 00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:33,988 -we have to change the ways we think about our food. -Mm-hmm. 613 00:24:34,088 --> 00:24:36,090 There's no denying that it's, it's becoming unsustainable. 614 00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:38,126 Uh, it's also terrible in the way that we treat animals, 615 00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:39,427 and, you know, we-we're just trying 616 00:24:39,527 --> 00:24:41,529 -to make the world a better place. -Yeah. 617 00:24:41,629 --> 00:24:43,998 Now, many people will say, "Oh, I-I can't be vegan, 618 00:24:44,098 --> 00:24:45,566 -but I am a vegetarian." -Yeah, sure. 619 00:24:45,667 --> 00:24:47,101 Some people say, "Well, I'm not that, but I'm pescatarian." 620 00:24:47,201 --> 00:24:48,836 -Sure. -"And I can eat fish because I don't like 621 00:24:48,937 --> 00:24:50,004 -how everything else happens." -Sure. 622 00:24:50,104 --> 00:24:51,472 But now you've basically come in 623 00:24:51,572 --> 00:24:53,174 -and you've, you've upended that whole thing. -(laughter) 624 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:54,575 Because there are many people like, 625 00:24:54,676 --> 00:24:56,010 "Well, I'm good, I eat fish," 626 00:24:56,110 --> 00:24:57,712 and you're like, "Well, you're not as good as you think." 627 00:24:57,845 --> 00:24:59,614 Well, it-it's not about judging people and saying, 628 00:24:59,714 --> 00:25:00,915 "You're not as good as you think." 629 00:25:01,015 --> 00:25:02,183 -Uh-huh. -It's more about thinking about it 630 00:25:02,283 --> 00:25:03,851 from the animal's perspective. 631 00:25:03,918 --> 00:25:04,919 So, the reason that I'm vegan, for example, 632 00:25:05,019 --> 00:25:06,287 is because I just look at things 633 00:25:06,387 --> 00:25:08,256 from the animal's perspective and I think to myself, 634 00:25:08,356 --> 00:25:10,224 "Would I want to be in their shoes, right?" 635 00:25:10,325 --> 00:25:12,160 -Or in their fins, as it may be. -Okay. (laughs) 636 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:15,063 And the thing is that, when you look at it that way, 637 00:25:15,163 --> 00:25:16,798 well, the things that we do to... 638 00:25:16,864 --> 00:25:18,199 -Well, I think that we're missing two things. -Yes. 639 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:20,068 First is the fact that, for a lot of these animals, 640 00:25:20,168 --> 00:25:22,136 we stereotype them in ways where we think that... 641 00:25:22,236 --> 00:25:25,373 -You know, w-we call animals in farms livestock. -Okay. 642 00:25:25,473 --> 00:25:28,009 Right, we almost look at them like a something, not a someone, 643 00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:30,812 when, in fact, all of them-- they can play and have families 644 00:25:30,878 --> 00:25:32,113 and build connections, just like dogs, 645 00:25:32,213 --> 00:25:33,615 cats, and other animals. 646 00:25:33,715 --> 00:25:35,950 And the second thing is, I think people vastly underestimate 647 00:25:36,050 --> 00:25:38,886 the degree to which they suffer in these systems, 648 00:25:38,987 --> 00:25:41,656 um, because obviously the industry is not going to, 649 00:25:41,823 --> 00:25:44,058 you know, kind of broadcast it themselves, 650 00:25:44,158 --> 00:25:46,127 um, and the-the information is accessible, 651 00:25:46,227 --> 00:25:47,595 but it's also uncomfortable to face. 652 00:25:47,695 --> 00:25:48,830 I think a lot of people-- 653 00:25:48,896 --> 00:25:50,431 uh, me, myself included for a long time-- 654 00:25:50,531 --> 00:25:52,834 just don't know how much these animals suffer 655 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:54,836 -and how many animals suffer. -Yeah. 656 00:25:54,902 --> 00:25:57,705 It is, it is, it is a difficult thing to, um, I think, 657 00:25:57,839 --> 00:25:59,140 consume or even process because, 658 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,441 y-you know, you grow up eating meat, 659 00:26:00,541 --> 00:26:01,743 you grow up eating whatever diet you grow up. 660 00:26:01,843 --> 00:26:03,745 -Some people don't. -Absolutely. yeah. 661 00:26:03,845 --> 00:26:05,246 But-but then, for instance, you're right, you see 662 00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:06,614 a documentary, you go like, "Wow, that's how 663 00:26:06,714 --> 00:26:07,982 "they treat cows? I-I don't want cows. 664 00:26:08,082 --> 00:26:09,917 "I want, you know, free-range cows, 665 00:26:10,018 --> 00:26:11,853 I want free-range chickens, I-I don't think that's good." 666 00:26:11,953 --> 00:26:13,221 And then you-you see something else and you're like, 667 00:26:13,321 --> 00:26:15,723 "Okay, I-I-I won't do that either." 668 00:26:15,857 --> 00:26:16,991 But then many people would argue, they'd be like, 669 00:26:17,091 --> 00:26:18,826 okay, but fish are in the ocean... 670 00:26:18,927 --> 00:26:20,428 -Yeah, yeah. -...just swimming around. 671 00:26:20,528 --> 00:26:22,597 And so if I eat wild-caught fish, 672 00:26:22,697 --> 00:26:24,599 then why is that a bad thing? 673 00:26:24,699 --> 00:26:26,234 Or-or you're saying it's not good or bad, though. 674 00:26:26,334 --> 00:26:28,469 -Is that what you're arguing? -Yeah, I'm not say... 675 00:26:28,569 --> 00:26:30,071 You're not even trying to moralize it essentially. 676 00:26:30,171 --> 00:26:31,472 You could... No, I wouldn't moralize it. 677 00:26:31,572 --> 00:26:33,474 -But it's not about good or bad. -Uh-huh. 678 00:26:33,574 --> 00:26:35,109 It's just that whether or not me or you 679 00:26:35,209 --> 00:26:37,111 or anyone else thinks this is good or bad, 680 00:26:37,211 --> 00:26:39,113 fishing causes tremendous suffering 681 00:26:39,213 --> 00:26:41,482 to an immeasurable number of fish 682 00:26:41,582 --> 00:26:42,650 and that's the issue to me. 683 00:26:42,817 --> 00:26:44,419 And for me, an issue is an issue 684 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:45,987 -when there's someone who suffers. -Right. 685 00:26:46,087 --> 00:26:48,356 So I don't care that like... Look, I'm not going sit here 686 00:26:48,456 --> 00:26:50,358 and be like I emotionally feel compelled 687 00:26:50,458 --> 00:26:52,427 to care about fish the same way I care about dogs. 688 00:26:52,527 --> 00:26:53,728 -I didn't grow up around fish. -Uh-huh. Right. 689 00:26:53,828 --> 00:26:54,862 Right? But I grew up around dogs. 690 00:26:54,963 --> 00:26:56,230 And they don't do cool tricks. 691 00:26:56,331 --> 00:26:58,333 Yeah, they don't... Well, some of them do cool tricks. 692 00:26:58,433 --> 00:27:00,201 Ah, I mean, not as cool as a dog but okay. 693 00:27:00,301 --> 00:27:01,502 -Yes. -Yeah, yeah. 694 00:27:01,603 --> 00:27:03,504 But, um... Yeah, so the thing is, 695 00:27:03,605 --> 00:27:06,140 because they suffer and their suffering matters to them, 696 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,009 -that's why I flag it as an issue. -Uh-huh. 697 00:27:08,109 --> 00:27:09,110 But it's interesting that you say suffer. 698 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,945 So let's talk a little bit about that 699 00:27:11,045 --> 00:27:12,480 because I know in the documentary and... 700 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:14,549 you-you know, you cite the research, 701 00:27:14,649 --> 00:27:15,950 there-there is mounting evidence 702 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,620 that talks about suffering or pain, et cetera. 703 00:27:18,786 --> 00:27:19,887 We know that pain extends far further 704 00:27:19,988 --> 00:27:21,889 -than we thought it ever did. -Sure. Sure. 705 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:23,224 You know, we learn new things every day. 706 00:27:23,324 --> 00:27:24,926 People, for instance, watched the documentary 707 00:27:25,026 --> 00:27:26,227 about the octopus on Netflix. 708 00:27:26,327 --> 00:27:27,562 People are like, "Ah, the octopus has feelings." 709 00:27:27,662 --> 00:27:28,896 And I'll be like, I don't want to eat octopus anymore, 710 00:27:28,997 --> 00:27:30,465 which is-which is fine. 711 00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:33,901 But-but when we think of it through the lens of suffering, 712 00:27:34,002 --> 00:27:36,504 do you not think sometimes we're imbuing animals 713 00:27:36,604 --> 00:27:39,007 with a level of almost complicated consciousness 714 00:27:39,107 --> 00:27:42,143 that they don't necessarily need because of the circle of life. 715 00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:45,847 So, like, let's say when a lion is-is hunting 716 00:27:45,947 --> 00:27:47,382 and then, you know, it goes and it grabs 717 00:27:47,482 --> 00:27:48,816 like an antelope or whatever, 718 00:27:48,916 --> 00:27:51,352 right, the other antelope are like, "Ah, that sucked," 719 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:52,654 and then they just carry on with their lives. 720 00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:54,822 -(laughter) -No, no, I mean this honestly. 721 00:27:54,856 --> 00:27:56,391 I watch them sometimes 722 00:27:56,491 --> 00:27:58,426 and, you know, the antelope thing happens 723 00:27:58,526 --> 00:27:59,827 and the antelope just carry on. 724 00:27:59,894 --> 00:28:01,663 I'm like, wow, I'm a lot more devastated on my couch 725 00:28:01,829 --> 00:28:04,065 than they are, so are they suffering 726 00:28:04,165 --> 00:28:05,433 or do you think we're imbuing them 727 00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:07,101 with the idea of what we think suffering is? 728 00:28:07,201 --> 00:28:09,504 Yeah, I mean, I think the... 729 00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:13,041 It's a complicated conversation definitely, but the fact... 730 00:28:13,141 --> 00:28:14,609 Like the way that we define suffering, 731 00:28:14,709 --> 00:28:16,344 or the way that I would think about suffering, 732 00:28:16,444 --> 00:28:18,579 is an experience that's unpleasant to you. 733 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,014 -Okay. -Right? That's kind of, like, the definition 734 00:28:20,114 --> 00:28:21,516 -of-of suffering. -Right. 735 00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:23,618 And, in that sense, I think it's undeniable that animals suffer. 736 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:25,653 Say, like when an antelope gets eaten. 737 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:27,689 That's probably a painful experience. 738 00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:29,023 -Yeah. Probably. I'm going to agree. -And there's-there's... 739 00:28:29,123 --> 00:28:30,325 -Yeah. -Yeah. Like, do you know what I mean? 740 00:28:30,425 --> 00:28:31,926 And at the end of the day, like, whether or not, 741 00:28:32,026 --> 00:28:33,962 like, how complicated that suffering is, 742 00:28:34,062 --> 00:28:35,396 I don't think it's that relevant 743 00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,432 to whether or not we should care about that suffering. 744 00:28:37,532 --> 00:28:40,034 -Mm-hmm. -I mean, whether or not they're as devastated 745 00:28:40,134 --> 00:28:42,103 as you or I would be in a similar situation 746 00:28:42,203 --> 00:28:43,938 doesn't change the fact that they're being eaten alive. 747 00:28:44,038 --> 00:28:45,173 -I hear what you're saying. -It's horrible. Right? 748 00:28:45,273 --> 00:28:46,708 And similar, for example, with fish, 749 00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:49,410 when they're being grabbed out of the ocean in a huge nets, 750 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:50,812 well, they die in horrific ways. 751 00:28:50,912 --> 00:28:52,814 They're being crushed under the weight of other fish, 752 00:28:52,847 --> 00:28:54,315 and then they're-- just spill onto this boat. 753 00:28:54,415 --> 00:28:56,384 Oftentimes they're put in this mixture of ice and water. 754 00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:58,052 -They're suffocating the whole time. -Mm-hmm. 755 00:28:58,152 --> 00:28:59,921 And that experience to them might not be so different 756 00:29:00,021 --> 00:29:01,689 to the experience of you or me drowning. 757 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,291 You know? In-in a way, it's a very primal form 758 00:29:03,391 --> 00:29:05,126 of-of suffering that they experience in that moment. 759 00:29:05,226 --> 00:29:06,527 So then let's talk about it through the lens 760 00:29:06,628 --> 00:29:08,529 -of just animals. And help me understand this. -Yeah. 761 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:10,331 If I said to you then, "Okay, 762 00:29:10,431 --> 00:29:12,100 "Ryuji, what's gonna happen is 763 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,836 "we're gonna get rid of all industrialized farming. 764 00:29:14,936 --> 00:29:16,304 "You know? There will be no boats 765 00:29:16,404 --> 00:29:17,972 "that are catching thousands of fish. 766 00:29:18,072 --> 00:29:19,407 "We're gonna go back to the olden days-- 767 00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:20,875 "like, one person, you catch your fish, I catch my fish. 768 00:29:20,975 --> 00:29:22,143 We-we do the whole thing." 769 00:29:22,243 --> 00:29:23,778 Would you be happy with that for yourself? 770 00:29:23,811 --> 00:29:25,913 Or are you saying, no, you wouldn't even engage 771 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,982 with the eating of a living thing? 772 00:29:28,082 --> 00:29:30,118 Sure, ag-again, for me, it's not about me being happy. 773 00:29:30,218 --> 00:29:31,519 -Okay. -Right? So, for me, 774 00:29:31,619 --> 00:29:33,821 it's about doing the best thing possible for the animals, 775 00:29:33,922 --> 00:29:35,223 looking at it from their perspective. 776 00:29:35,323 --> 00:29:37,158 -But what about us? -(chuckling) 777 00:29:37,258 --> 00:29:38,693 No, and I don't-- I don't even mean this, like, selfishly. 778 00:29:38,793 --> 00:29:39,861 -No, no, no, no, no. I... -No, no, I mean... (stammers) 779 00:29:39,961 --> 00:29:41,195 And the reason I say this-- what about us?-- 780 00:29:41,296 --> 00:29:42,864 is because I go, "Sometimes, as humans, 781 00:29:42,964 --> 00:29:44,666 you know, I feel like we forget that we're also animals." 782 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:46,367 -Yeah, sure. Yeah. -Okay? So we are also animals. 783 00:29:46,467 --> 00:29:47,869 -Mm-hmm. -And then those animals, like-- 784 00:29:47,969 --> 00:29:48,937 There's a lot of time where you'll go, like, 785 00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:50,171 "Aw, the animal." 786 00:29:50,271 --> 00:29:51,606 But then the animal will do a thing to you. 787 00:29:51,706 --> 00:29:52,807 Like, let's say you see, like, a bear, 788 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,075 You're like, "Aw, the bear's cute." 789 00:29:54,175 --> 00:29:55,376 Then some people go, "Let me go touch the bear," 790 00:29:55,476 --> 00:29:56,878 -Then the bear's like... (growls) Right? -(laughs): Yeah. 791 00:29:56,978 --> 00:29:58,479 Then the people are like, "That bear's an asshole." 792 00:29:58,579 --> 00:29:59,714 -Yeah. -Then I'm like, "No, the bear's just a bear. 793 00:29:59,814 --> 00:30:01,082 -It's doing bear things." -Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 794 00:30:01,182 --> 00:30:03,117 Are we-- are we not just doing human things in that way? 795 00:30:03,217 --> 00:30:05,453 Like, is-is it-- is it-- Does it need to be moralized 796 00:30:05,553 --> 00:30:07,188 in any way, shape, or-- Should we-- Are we not just meant 797 00:30:07,288 --> 00:30:09,424 to eat the thing because it's-it's food for us? 798 00:30:09,524 --> 00:30:11,225 Yeah, sure. I mean, you could say that it's a human thing, 799 00:30:11,326 --> 00:30:13,494 but, again, whether or not you or me or anyone else 800 00:30:13,595 --> 00:30:15,496 considers this a human thing doesn't change the fact 801 00:30:15,597 --> 00:30:16,965 that an action would cause suffering. 802 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:19,367 And in my view, if we can prevent suffering 803 00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:20,768 from happening, then why not do it? 804 00:30:20,802 --> 00:30:22,170 -That's fascinating. -You know? Because if I was 805 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:25,073 -in that position, then I would not want to suffer. -Yeah. 806 00:30:25,173 --> 00:30:26,307 Huh. 807 00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:27,775 "If I was in that position, I would not..." 808 00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:30,144 I-I agree. If I was a fish, I would not want to be caught. 809 00:30:30,244 --> 00:30:32,146 -Yeah. No, yeah. Exactly. -I-I completely agree with you. 810 00:30:32,246 --> 00:30:34,048 They don't try to be caught. They don't want to, like, 811 00:30:34,148 --> 00:30:35,316 -have-have that existence. -Yeah. 812 00:30:35,416 --> 00:30:36,985 So what would you say to somebody 813 00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:39,420 who wants to get into this life? 814 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,989 Because one thing I do appreciate 815 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,824 about you honestly is this. Is, like, oftentimes, 816 00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:44,292 you'll talk to vegans. 817 00:30:44,392 --> 00:30:45,793 And one-- they'll always let you know 818 00:30:45,893 --> 00:30:47,195 that they're vegans without you asking them. 819 00:30:47,295 --> 00:30:49,664 And two-- they will judge people, but you don't judge. 820 00:30:49,797 --> 00:30:51,799 That's something I've really appreciated. 821 00:30:51,833 --> 00:30:53,368 You inform people, you do the research, you talk about it. 822 00:30:53,468 --> 00:30:55,370 But you're not judging. You're not like, 823 00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:56,971 "You're an asshole for doing this." -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 824 00:30:57,071 --> 00:30:58,539 "You're wrong for doing this." You go, "This is why I'm making 825 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,974 the decision, and this is what we should be cognizant of." 826 00:31:00,074 --> 00:31:01,542 So if somebody says to you, "Okay, 827 00:31:01,643 --> 00:31:03,978 "I want to explore getting into this world..." -Yeah. 828 00:31:04,078 --> 00:31:06,047 "...but may not have the nutrition, I may not..." 829 00:31:06,147 --> 00:31:08,216 I mean, look at America. There's people who live in food deserts. 830 00:31:08,316 --> 00:31:09,584 -Absolutely. -There's people who don't have access 831 00:31:09,684 --> 00:31:11,085 -to the right foods. -Sure. For sure. 832 00:31:11,185 --> 00:31:12,654 How can they even begin the journey 833 00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:14,956 of a more ethical existence when it comes to what they eat? 834 00:31:15,056 --> 00:31:17,792 So I think there are, well, three things really. 835 00:31:17,892 --> 00:31:20,428 The first thing would be to change our view 836 00:31:20,528 --> 00:31:22,563 -on how we see animals. Right? -Okay. 837 00:31:22,664 --> 00:31:25,133 So for me, the big thing that changed becoming a vegan 838 00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:26,668 is that I started seeing all animals 839 00:31:26,768 --> 00:31:28,836 -as a someone, not a something. -Okay. 840 00:31:28,937 --> 00:31:30,571 Previously, I never spent time with cows 841 00:31:30,672 --> 00:31:32,273 or chickens or pigs, but it turns out 842 00:31:32,373 --> 00:31:34,042 that they're just like dogs and cats. 843 00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,044 And I think the more we can have that mindset is really good. 844 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,979 The second thing is to get informed 845 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:39,781 about what we actually do to them. 846 00:31:39,847 --> 00:31:42,784 Because, again, I think that many people vastly underestimate 847 00:31:42,884 --> 00:31:44,953 the amount of suffering that we cause them, 848 00:31:45,053 --> 00:31:47,121 -even in just the legal things that we do to them. -Uh-huh. 849 00:31:47,221 --> 00:31:49,223 A lot of those things are things that would be outrageous 850 00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:50,858 if done to dogs and cats. It would be illegal. 851 00:31:50,959 --> 00:31:52,794 Like, they would get canceled and arrested 852 00:31:52,894 --> 00:31:55,029 if we did this to dogs and cats is what would happen. 853 00:31:55,129 --> 00:31:56,364 -Right? -Right, right. 854 00:31:56,464 --> 00:31:57,799 So I think getting informed on that. 855 00:31:57,899 --> 00:31:59,801 And thirdly, there are so many resources 856 00:31:59,901 --> 00:32:01,235 on how to live a vegan lifestyle, 857 00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:02,804 -in many different shapes and forms. -Mm-hmm. 858 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:04,672 Like, I think one of the misconceptions is 859 00:32:04,806 --> 00:32:06,808 that being vegan is all about eating, you know, 860 00:32:06,874 --> 00:32:09,177 Beyond Meat and these fancy meat substitutes. 861 00:32:09,277 --> 00:32:11,879 But in fact, you can have a very simple, whole-food, 862 00:32:11,980 --> 00:32:14,582 plant-based lifestyle that is... could be a lot cheaper 863 00:32:14,682 --> 00:32:15,883 -and a lot healthier, as well. -Mm-hmm. 864 00:32:15,984 --> 00:32:17,318 There are many, many ways to go about it, 865 00:32:17,418 --> 00:32:18,720 and so, you can just do research on that 866 00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:20,488 -and find what works for you. -I'll tell you this. 867 00:32:20,588 --> 00:32:21,923 You're fascinating. I've really enjoyed talking to you. 868 00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:23,258 Thank you so much for joining me on the show. 869 00:32:23,358 --> 00:32:24,659 Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. 870 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:26,127 Really, really fun. 871 00:32:26,227 --> 00:32:28,963 How Conscience Can a Fish Be? 872 00:32:29,063 --> 00:32:30,632 Find out by streaming his documentary on YouTube. 873 00:32:30,732 --> 00:32:31,966 We're gonna take a quick break, 874 00:32:32,066 --> 00:32:33,434 but we'll be right back after this. 875 00:32:33,534 --> 00:32:34,836 -Thank you again. -Thank you. 876 00:32:34,936 --> 00:32:36,971 -For real, man. -(applause and cheering) 877 00:32:40,781 --> 00:32:42,349 (applause and cheering) 878 00:32:42,449 --> 00:32:44,951 Well, that's our show for tonight, but before we go, 879 00:32:45,052 --> 00:32:47,321 remember recovery efforts are underway 880 00:32:47,421 --> 00:32:48,689 after record-breaking flood waters 881 00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:50,223 have hit Eastern Kentucky. 882 00:32:50,324 --> 00:32:51,892 We can all help them, and we should. 883 00:32:51,992 --> 00:32:54,761 The Foundation for Appalachian Kentucky is doing all they... 884 00:32:54,861 --> 00:32:56,396 all that they can to help in these efforts. 885 00:32:56,496 --> 00:32:58,298 So, please, if you can, consider supporting them 886 00:32:58,398 --> 00:33:00,734 and the important work that they do at the link below. 887 00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:02,936 Until next time, stay safe out there and remember. 888 00:33:03,036 --> 00:33:04,504 You're not singing the lyrics wrong. 889 00:33:04,604 --> 00:33:06,206 Beyoncé just changed the album. 890 00:33:06,306 --> 00:33:08,342 Now here it is-- Your Moment of Zen. 891 00:33:08,442 --> 00:33:10,944 ♪ ♪ 892 00:33:11,044 --> 00:33:14,114 -Live television, gang. That's live TV for you. -(laughter) 893 00:33:14,214 --> 00:33:16,917 Excuse me. My son... My kids are here. Live television. 894 00:33:17,017 --> 00:33:18,585 We'll do it live! (bleep) it! 895 00:33:18,685 --> 00:33:21,388 Out of curiosity, what brewery is that? 896 00:33:23,423 --> 00:33:25,058 What-what brew...? Where are you? 897 00:33:25,158 --> 00:33:26,994 What brewery is that? 898 00:33:27,094 --> 00:33:28,996 -Oh, I think we lost Kerry. Yeah. -All right. -Oh, no. 899 00:33:29,096 --> 00:33:31,131 -Yeah. -We were so close to finding that out, too. -Okay. 900 00:33:31,231 --> 00:33:34,034 All right, well, can hear me, Kerry? Can you hear me now? 901 00:33:34,134 --> 00:33:36,203 -Okay, we've lost Kerry. -We've lost Kerry. 902 00:33:36,303 --> 00:33:37,971 -Or Kerry's just drunk. -Or Kerry's drunk. 903 00:33:38,071 --> 00:33:40,040 He's just drunk right now. 904 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:42,542 He's been doing these hits. Anyway... All right. 905 00:33:42,642 --> 00:33:43,944 -He's back! -He's back! -He's back. Kerry's back. 906 00:33:44,044 --> 00:33:46,013 -He's back. Okay. -Kerry's Back. Kerry's back. 907 00:33:46,113 --> 00:33:47,347 Hey, hey, Kerry, any time... 908 00:33:47,447 --> 00:33:49,883 Are we going see this resolved anytime soon? 909 00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:54,321 ♪ ♪