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<b>(applause and cheering)</b>

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<b>Welcome back
to </b><b><i>The Daily Show.</i></b>

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<b>Of all the little life skills</b>

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<b>that we need
to get through the day,</b>

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<b>the most annoying one
is making small talk.</b>

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<b>But is small talk more important
than we think?</b>

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<b>Well, Michael Kosta went
to find out.</b>

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<b>KOSTA: As we reenter society
for the (bleep)teenth time,</b>

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<b>the workforce is returning
to the office,</b>

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<b>and people have
to do the grossest activity--</b>

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<b>make small talk.</b>

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<b>So I spoke to the public
to see if it was time to end</b>

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<b>this terrible type
of conversation.</b>

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<b>Is there anything worse
than small talk?</b>

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<b>-It is the worst.
-Yeah.</b>

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<b>-It's the worst?
-Worst.</b>

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<b>It's like the awkward phase.</b>

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<b>I don't really care
about your day most of the time.</b>

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<b>-'Cause it makes me nervous.
-'Cause it (bleep) sucks.</b>

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<b>How do you feel your individual,
small-talk skills</b>

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<b>have gotten since the pandemic?</b>

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<b>Everyone's just awkward
as (bleep) now.</b>

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<b>I forgot how to talk to people.</b>

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<b>-So what do you do?
-Try not to talk to people.</b>

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<b>I will find a friend at a party
and just sit myself with them.</b>

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<b>What if we're at the park?
Are we going to small-talk?</b>

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<b>If I don't know you, no.
I keep it moving.</b>

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<b>KOSTA: Clearly,
we all hated small talk, so,</b>

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<b>I wasn't going make anyone
suffer any longer.</b>

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<b>So (bleep) all this small talk.</b>

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<b>You know what? Let's not do
small talk for a second,</b>

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<b>-okay?
-Okay.</b>

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<b>Um, God.</b>

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<b>-Wow.
-Real.</b>

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<b>-Is God real?
-Um...</b>

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<b>-I want to get
to the good stuff. -Yeah.</b>

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<b>Will you tell me about
your worst childhood trauma?</b>

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<b>Oh. Oh, uh... no.</b>

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<b>KOSTA:
It's clear</b>

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<b>everyone preferred
my conversational approach.</b>

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<b>However, some see the benefits
to small talk,</b>

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<b>like psychology professor
Tara Well from Barnard College.</b>

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<b>So I met with her to go deep</b>

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<b>about why she likes
to keep things on the surface.</b>

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<b>It's really important
that we engage in small talk</b>

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<b>'cause it's how
we connect as humans,</b>

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<b>and I appreciate
how important it is for us.</b>

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<b>Uh, you appreciate
the most awkward moment</b>

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<b>of all social interaction?</b>

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<b>It has kind of
a negative connotation.</b>

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<b>We think it's superficial,</b>

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<b>and it's just kind of, you know,
mindless and a waste of time.</b>

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<b>What has happened to small talk
since the pandemic started?</b>

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<b>The past two years have
pretty much decimated small talk</b>

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<b>-in a number of ways.
-Yeah.</b>

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<b>I mean, when we talk
to people face to face,</b>

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<b>we use the whole body.</b>

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<b>There's also
a slight time lag in Zoom.</b>

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<b>-Mm-hmm.
-And in those few seconds,</b>

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<b>we tend to think
of something negative,</b>

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<b>so if someone pauses...</b>

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<b>-They hate me.
-Well... Yes.</b>

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<b>-Exactly. Exactly.
-Right.</b>

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<b>Should I put my shirt back
on, that type of thing.</b>

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<b>Yeah.</b>

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<b>So, many people are feeling
kind of very socially awkward,</b>

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<b>-not knowing what to say.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.</b>

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<b>-Also wearing masks because...
-Mm-hmm.</b>

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<b>we connect
with our facial expressions</b>

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<b>-to regulate our emotions.
-Like, especially like this?</b>

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<b>-Like...
-Yeah.</b>

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<b>-Or like this?
or like this? -(laughing)</b>

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<b>-Did you feel connected
to me then? -No, no.</b>

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<b>-That's interesting.
-What happens is we...</b>

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<b>We oftentimes mirror
our-our facial features.</b>

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<b>So, what's wrong
with just jumping</b>

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<b>-into the important stuff?
-Well,</b>

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<b>you know,
small talk isn't therapy.</b>

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<b>-Okay? It's not therapy.
-Hmm.</b>

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<b>It's kind of easy
to blame the pandemic...</b>

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<b>-Right.
-but in a lot of ways,</b>

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<b>-we were headed here already.
-Yeah.</b>

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<b>The generation younger than me
is the most medicated,</b>

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<b>the most socially anxious,
having the least amount of sex.</b>

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<b>Is that connected
to the importance of small talk?</b>

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<b>I think it can be</b>

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<b>because
even before the pandemic,</b>

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<b>we were kind of losing
that face-to-face contact.</b>

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<b>We don't get
the same psychological</b>

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<b>and emotional benefits
when we just, you know, respond</b>

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<b>-to text or like a post
on-on social media. -Right.</b>

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<b>Are we in a small talk crisis?</b>

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<b>Yes.</b>

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<b>KOSTA:
Wow, she really made small talk</b>

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<b>seem important.
It made me realize that</b>

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<b>maybe even I could
get a little better at it.</b>

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<b>If I need to get
better at small talk,</b>

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<b>who do I practice to?</b>

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<b>So, you can practice
in the mirror</b>

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<b>or you could also</b>

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<b>get a small talk practice buddy.</b>

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<b>STPB.</b>

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<b>Just go there and be curious
to get to know other people.</b>

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<b>But also know that you're gonna
be awkward and it's okay.</b>

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<b>And what if I feel
the responsibility</b>

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<b>-to initiate conversation?
-Simply starting out,</b>

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<b>"Hi, I'm Michael.
I don't think I've met you yet.</b>

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<b>-What's your name?" -Hi,
I'm Michael, what's your name?</b>

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<b>-I haven't met you yet.
I got to-- -Have a little bit of</b>

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<b>-lightness and intonation.
-Okay.</b>

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<b>Hi, I'm M-- I'm Michael.
What's your name?</b>

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<b>-Hi, I'm Michael.
What's your name? -Hi--</b>

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<b>You don't want to sound
too sexy, though.</b>

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<b>Hey, I'm-- hey, I'm Michael.
What's your name?</b>

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<b>-Nah.
-That was too sexy.</b>

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<b>-Too much, too much.
-Okay. I got to practice.</b>

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<b>With Professor Well's
instructions,</b>

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<b>I practiced my small talk
to do my part</b>

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<b>to end this
conversational crisis.</b>

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<b>Hello. I'm you,
who are-- who's Michael?</b>

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<b>Hi, I'm-I'm hot outside.</b>

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<b>(loudly): Hello, how are you?
Too loud.</b>

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<b>♪ ♪</b>

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<b>Um, yeah, Lake Superior is
the biggest of the Great Lakes.</b>

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<b>-Lake Superior-- -Oh, my God.
Sorry, what'd you say?</b>

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<b>Did-- I didn't say anything.
Why would I say something?</b>

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<b>♪ ♪</b>

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<b>Hi, it's pretty hot
outside, huh?</b>

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<b>That's a good one.</b>

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<b>Hello.
How are you?</b>

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<b>Hello. What is your hometown?</b>

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<b>After weeks of talking
to my reflection, my dog,</b>

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<b>and hiding
from that coworker</b>

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<b>I tried to talk to
in the elevator,</b>

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<b>I was finally ready
to take my small talk</b>

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<b>on a test run.</b>

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<b>Uh, so, the weather
is cloudy today, huh?</b>

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<b>Have you seen the
latest Spider-Man movie?</b>

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<b>Hey, you wear that yellow
really well. Oh, my God,</b>

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<b>Bryant Park-- it's like,
turn down the music already.</b>

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<b>-No. -I feel like that was
too many things at once.</b>

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<b>-It was.
-How did that make you feel?</b>

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<b>Um... overwhelmed,
but I'm vibing.</b>

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<b>Wow, that's
a beautiful building.</b>

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<b>-Yeah. -Yes. Gorgeous.
-You know what</b>

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<b>-isn't beautiful?
-What?</b>

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<b>-The HPV in my body.
-Wow.</b>

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<b>-You like sports, Evan?
-I do like sports.</b>

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<b>Yeah, cool. Which one of
your parents do you love more?</b>

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<b>-Oh, my God.
-KOSTA: So my small talk</b>

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<b>wasn't perfect but, to my
surprise, I actually had some</b>

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<b>good conversations
that didn't get super weird.</b>

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<b>How are you enjoying New York?</b>

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<b>Uh, it's a lot to take in.
It's definitely different</b>

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<b>from where I am--
from Memphis, Tennessee.</b>

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<b>Hey, I feel like we
just had a nice conversation</b>

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<b>and maybe the small talk was
the bridge that got us there.</b>

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<b>Agreed, I think so.</b>

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<b>And I didn't have to even
bring up my HPV.</b>

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<b>You didn't have
to bring that up at all.</b>

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<b>Small talk on three--
one, two, three,</b>

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<b>-small talk!
-Small talk. -Small talk!</b>

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<b>Do I love small talk? No.</b>

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<b>Do I understand
why we need it? Fine.</b>

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<b>Do I have any big plans
this weekend?</b>

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<b>Why, yes, I do.
Thanks for asking.</b>

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<b>Got it, baby.
Small talk expert.</b>

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<b>(cheering, applause)</b>

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<b>Thank you so much for that,
Michael, All right, stay tuned</b>

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<b>because when we come back,
Sherri Shepherd</b>

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<b>will be joining me on the show.
So don't go away.</b>

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<b>(cheering, applause)</b>

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<b>My guest tonight is comedian,
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<b>and Emmy-winning
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<b>She's here to talk
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which premiers September 12.</b>

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<b>Please welcome Sherri Shepherd.</b>

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<b>Hi, everyone.</b>

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<b>-Welcome.
-Hi.</b>

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<b>Hey, y'all.</b>

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<b>-Sherri Shepherd.
-What's going on?</b>

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<b>-Welcome to </b><b><i>The Daily Show.</i></b><b>
-Welcome to </b><b><i>The Daily Show.</i></b>

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<b>-Look, you are fine. I have not
seen you in person. -(laughter)</b>

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<b>Oh, my... You know,
because you see people on TV.</b>

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<b>You're like,
"They look all right." You fine.</b>

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<b>-(laughter, applause)
-All right.</b>

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<b>-I see what you're doing
already. This... -Oh, whatever.</b>

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<b>-This is... This is... -When are
we going to Africa together?</b>

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<b>-(laughs)
-(laughter)</b>

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<b>I've never been to Africa.
I'd like to go.</b>

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<b>-You've never been?
-I've never been.</b>

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<b>Wait. Never? Anywhere.</b>

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<b>-I've never been to Africa.
-Oh, okay.</b>

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<b>Let me tell you something.
Mothers love me in Africa.</b>

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<b>I've never been, but I know
they're gonna like me.</b>

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<b>-(laughter)
-How do you know? -I just...</b>

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<b>I'm that kind of person.</b>

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<b>I'm that kind of person
that, like... You know, peop...</b>

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<b>-I'm family reunions.
-Uh-huh.</b>

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<b>I like going. I cook sometime...</b>

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<b>Well, I order from DoorDash,
and I put it on the china.</b>

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<b>I just know...
I fit in with families.</b>

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<b>Okay. That's probably why
you're gonna make</b>

207
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<b>such a great host
for a new show.</b>

208
00:25:44,019 --> 00:25:45,353
<b>I should say,
welcome to </b><b><i>The Daily Show,</i></b>

209
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,721
<b>and more importantly, I should
say, welcome to New York</b>

210
00:25:46,821 --> 00:25:48,156
<b>because you moved to New York
to make your show.</b>

211
00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:49,524
<b>-Congratulations.
-Oh, that's right.</b>

212
00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:50,859
<b>I'm here in New York.
I love it.</b>

213
00:25:50,959 --> 00:25:52,927
<b>-Welcome to it.
-I am here in New York.</b>

214
00:25:53,028 --> 00:25:55,030
<b>(applause and cheering)</b>

215
00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:57,632
<b>-This is a big deal.
-Yes, it is.</b>

216
00:25:57,732 --> 00:25:59,334
<b>'Cause I've been on </b><b><i>The View.</i></b><b>
You know, I did </b><b><i>The View</i></b>

217
00:25:59,434 --> 00:26:00,936
<b>-for seven seasons.
-Of course. Of course.</b>

218
00:26:01,036 --> 00:26:03,872
<b>-With Barbara and Whoopi and Joy
and Elisabeth. -Right. Right.</b>

219
00:26:03,972 --> 00:26:07,409
<b>And so, to do my own-- it's
literally a dream come true.</b>

220
00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,544
<b>I've been... I used
to talk to my teddy bears</b>

221
00:26:09,577 --> 00:26:11,846
<b>with, like, the toilet paper
roll, and I would put...</b>

222
00:26:11,947 --> 00:26:14,182
<b>I'd put it in front of their
faces, and I would do that.</b>

223
00:26:14,282 --> 00:26:15,550
<b>And when I was
a legal secretary,</b>

224
00:26:15,650 --> 00:26:17,552
<b>I would sign my name "Sherri."</b>

225
00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:19,888
<b>So it's, like, I always thought
about doing a talk show.</b>

226
00:26:19,988 --> 00:26:21,389
<b>So, you... Wait. Let's go back.</b>

227
00:26:21,489 --> 00:26:23,725
<b>-So you interviewed
the teddy bears? -I did.</b>

228
00:26:23,825 --> 00:26:25,293
<b>As an adult or child?
How old were you?</b>

229
00:26:25,393 --> 00:26:26,628
<b>-When I was a child. I...
-Okay. No.</b>

230
00:26:26,728 --> 00:26:28,229
<b>You didn't explain,
like, where exactly.</b>

231
00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:30,231
<b>-I was just trying to situate
this whole experience. -No.</b>

232
00:26:30,332 --> 00:26:32,100
<b>When I was a child...
No, no, I do grown men now</b>

233
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,337
<b>when I have to interview.
Yeah, that's who I do.</b>

234
00:26:35,503 --> 00:26:37,038
<b>-I don't do teddy bears anymore.
-(applause and cheering)</b>

235
00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:40,075
<b>Trevor, what? No, sir!</b>

236
00:26:40,175 --> 00:26:42,644
<b>Oh. It feels like you were made
for this role.</b>

237
00:26:42,744 --> 00:26:44,045
<b>Like, people love you on TV.</b>

238
00:26:44,145 --> 00:26:45,513
<b>You act, you're in comedy</b>

239
00:26:45,614 --> 00:26:48,016
<b>but this is a different type
of job</b>

240
00:26:48,116 --> 00:26:49,250
<b>-because it is your show.
-I know.</b>

241
00:26:49,351 --> 00:26:50,518
<b>It's going to be daily,</b>

242
00:26:50,552 --> 00:26:51,720
<b>you're going to be talking
about everything.</b>

243
00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:53,121
<b>-Let's talk about that part
of the show -Yes.</b>

244
00:26:53,221 --> 00:26:56,324
<b>because, you know, y-you're
going to be in daytime TV</b>

245
00:26:56,424 --> 00:26:58,660
<b>where a lot of people go,
"Oh, don't do politics,"</b>

246
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,362
<b>and you know, "Don't do
certain parts of comedy."</b>

247
00:27:00,528 --> 00:27:02,530
<b>It feels like
you're bringing everything</b>

248
00:27:02,631 --> 00:27:04,065
<b>that makes you who you are
to the show.</b>

249
00:27:04,165 --> 00:27:05,567
<b>Tell me a little bit about that.</b>

250
00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:08,036
<b>I am, you know what, because
I have, I love politics,</b>

251
00:27:08,136 --> 00:27:10,171
<b>I could sit and talk about
it 24/7,</b>

252
00:27:10,272 --> 00:27:13,375
<b>but I'm very clear, my show
is joy, fun and laughter</b>

253
00:27:13,541 --> 00:27:16,111
<b>because we go through
so much in our day,</b>

254
00:27:16,211 --> 00:27:18,079
<b>-I think we get desensitized.
-I love that.</b>

255
00:27:18,179 --> 00:27:19,981
<b>And I want you to be able
to come</b>

256
00:27:20,081 --> 00:27:21,950
<b>because they can get it
from you,</b>

257
00:27:22,050 --> 00:27:24,919
<b>they can get the news from
</b><b><i>The View,</i></b><b> from Wolf Blitzer</b>

258
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:27,489
<b>but I want you to come
to my show and laugh.</b>

259
00:27:27,555 --> 00:27:29,090
<b>I want you to have a good time.</b>

260
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:30,492
<b>That's all I want.</b>

261
00:27:30,558 --> 00:27:32,494
<b>And I just have
this incessant need.</b>

262
00:27:32,594 --> 00:27:35,563
<b>We're both stand-up comics,
I have to make you laugh.</b>

263
00:27:35,664 --> 00:27:37,832
<b>And so if that's what you want,</b>

264
00:27:37,932 --> 00:27:39,501
<b>I want you to turn in to </b><b><i>Sherri.</i></b>

265
00:27:39,567 --> 00:27:40,869
<b>We're just going to be
tuning in to the show,</b>

266
00:27:40,969 --> 00:27:42,203
<b>we're going to be laughing.</b>

267
00:27:42,304 --> 00:27:43,638
<b>You're also going to be
showcasing comedians,</b>

268
00:27:43,738 --> 00:27:44,806
<b>-which-which I love.
-(gasps)</b>

269
00:27:44,906 --> 00:27:46,174
<b>Like, you have a special
segment on the show</b>

270
00:27:46,274 --> 00:27:47,509
<b>for stand-up comedians
specifically.</b>

271
00:27:47,609 --> 00:27:49,010
<b>It's "Sherri's Laugh Lounge"</b>

272
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:52,213
<b>because I have been a struggling
comedian, like, my entire life.</b>

273
00:27:52,314 --> 00:27:55,517
<b>I used to go and I would
get bumped by Tommy Davidson,</b>

274
00:27:55,583 --> 00:27:57,886
<b>Marlon Wayans, all of them.</b>

275
00:27:57,986 --> 00:27:59,854
<b>And I would just sit there
till 1:00 in the morning</b>

276
00:27:59,955 --> 00:28:01,823
<b>and I would play
in front of one person.</b>

277
00:28:01,923 --> 00:28:03,925
<b>And I go, "If somebody would
just give me a chance,"</b>

278
00:28:04,025 --> 00:28:05,827
<b>and that is what I want to do
with comics.</b>

279
00:28:05,927 --> 00:28:07,329
<b>-I love that.
-I know so many comics.</b>

280
00:28:07,429 --> 00:28:09,431
<b>-I love that.
-Yes.</b>

281
00:28:09,531 --> 00:28:11,399
<b>-That is my mission.
-I love that.</b>

282
00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:13,535
<b>You know, because you know,</b>

283
00:28:13,568 --> 00:28:15,737
<b>you know there are comics
around, Trevor,</b>

284
00:28:15,837 --> 00:28:18,540
<b>-who just, they just need
the exposure -Yeah, yeah.</b>

285
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,910
<b>but they can't sit on the couch,
you know how that world is.</b>

286
00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:24,946
<b>But you can come and sit with me
and you make people laugh</b>

287
00:28:25,046 --> 00:28:26,615
<b>and hopefully that
will open up...</b>

288
00:28:26,715 --> 00:28:28,183
<b>Like what Johnny Carson
used to do.</b>

289
00:28:28,283 --> 00:28:30,151
<b>I did it with, you know,
Jay Leno.</b>

290
00:28:30,251 --> 00:28:33,021
<b>He had me do stand-up
and it changed my world.</b>

291
00:28:33,121 --> 00:28:35,857
<b>It feels like you have,
you know, an energy about you</b>

292
00:28:35,957 --> 00:28:37,025
<b>that is all about positivity</b>

293
00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:38,360
<b>'cause it's not just
about laughing.</b>

294
00:28:38,493 --> 00:28:39,995
<b>You know, even on </b><b><i>The View,</i></b>

295
00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:42,163
<b>you had your moments
where you would go really deep</b>

296
00:28:42,263 --> 00:28:44,299
<b>but for the most part
you found a reason to laugh.</b>

297
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:46,334
<b>You found a reason to smile,
you found a reason</b>

298
00:28:46,501 --> 00:28:47,736
<b>to make people feel good
about themselves.</b>

299
00:28:47,836 --> 00:28:49,304
<b>And the-the show that you're in,
you know,</b>

300
00:28:49,404 --> 00:28:51,706
<b>for-for a lot of daytime shows
some people will say,</b>

301
00:28:51,806 --> 00:28:53,942
<b>"Oh, it-it's gonna be
gossipy only,</b>

302
00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:55,543
<b>it's gonna be negative only,"</b>

303
00:28:55,644 --> 00:28:56,978
<b>but you've never been
that kind of person.</b>

304
00:28:57,078 --> 00:28:58,346
<b>-No. -It's almost
like you have a joyous way</b>

305
00:28:58,513 --> 00:28:59,648
<b>of seeing whatever's happening
in the world.</b>

306
00:28:59,748 --> 00:29:02,284
<b>I do. I just--
I've-I've just grown up going,</b>

307
00:29:02,384 --> 00:29:05,520
<b>-"You got to-- there's a silver
lining in everything." -Yeah.</b>

308
00:29:05,587 --> 00:29:06,855
<b>You just have to know
how to find it.</b>

309
00:29:06,955 --> 00:29:09,024
<b>And I am a woman
of a certain age</b>

310
00:29:09,124 --> 00:29:10,525
<b>and I want women
to look at me and go,</b>

311
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:13,628
<b>"If Sherri can do it,
if it can happen for Sherri,</b>

312
00:29:13,728 --> 00:29:15,964
<b>it can happen for you, too."</b>

313
00:29:16,064 --> 00:29:17,265
<b>-I used to struggle.
-Right.</b>

314
00:29:17,365 --> 00:29:18,867
<b>So I know this.</b>

315
00:29:18,967 --> 00:29:21,002
<b>You know, I want people
to know that joy,</b>

316
00:29:21,102 --> 00:29:22,537
<b>I want people
to get past the fear</b>

317
00:29:22,637 --> 00:29:24,539
<b>'cause I'm a big...
I'm a big believer</b>

318
00:29:24,639 --> 00:29:26,541
<b>in "run towards the thing
that scares you."</b>

319
00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:27,943
<b>-Wait, really?
-Yes.</b>

320
00:29:28,043 --> 00:29:28,944
<b>-Oh.
-Yes, and, see...</b>

321
00:29:29,044 --> 00:29:30,545
<b>Yeah, I know, and, I know,</b>

322
00:29:30,645 --> 00:29:32,047
<b>-I sat and watched you.
-I'm the opposite.</b>

323
00:29:32,147 --> 00:29:33,782
<b>-You said that, like, when you
were... -I'm the opposite.</b>

324
00:29:33,882 --> 00:29:35,350
<b>-You-you run away...
-I think you should run away</b>

325
00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:37,319
<b>-from the thing that scares you.
-No, uh-uh, and I'm like,</b>

326
00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:38,820
<b>-the thing that scares you...
-That's why it scares you.</b>

327
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,988
<b>No, but-but you know what?</b>

328
00:29:40,088 --> 00:29:41,556
<b>It scares you,
but if you go towards it,</b>

329
00:29:41,656 --> 00:29:42,624
<b>-there's a lot...
-It can kill you.</b>

330
00:29:42,724 --> 00:29:45,293
<b>No, no, it will not kill you.</b>

331
00:29:45,393 --> 00:29:47,595
<b>There's a lot of blessings
on the other side,</b>

332
00:29:47,696 --> 00:29:49,130
<b>-so if you go towards it...
-That's heaven.</b>

333
00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:50,799
<b>You realize the blessings on the
other side are heaven, Sherri.</b>

334
00:29:50,899 --> 00:29:52,334
<b>Honey, let me tell you.</b>

335
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,502
<b>Well, you got to be man enough
to know how to pick her up--</b>

336
00:29:54,536 --> 00:29:56,771
<b>-I mean, pick it up.
-(laughs)</b>

337
00:29:56,871 --> 00:29:58,974
<b>It's heavy,
but, you know, run towards it.</b>

338
00:29:59,074 --> 00:30:00,308
<b>That's-that's what I enjoy
about your journey,</b>

339
00:30:00,408 --> 00:30:02,777
<b>because it's like
you-you're going into a show,</b>

340
00:30:02,877 --> 00:30:03,845
<b>you know, you-you've been
doing the stand-up,</b>

341
00:30:03,945 --> 00:30:05,347
<b>you've been doing the acting.</b>

342
00:30:05,513 --> 00:30:07,515
<b>What you're doing is extremely
hard-- coming to New York.</b>

343
00:30:07,616 --> 00:30:10,752
<b>I mean, you know, L.A. has,
like, a different pace to it.</b>

344
00:30:10,852 --> 00:30:11,920
<b>-Yeah. -It's chill,
people are friendly.</b>

345
00:30:12,020 --> 00:30:13,321
<b>-You know...
-There's like a vibe.</b>

346
00:30:13,421 --> 00:30:15,323
<b>You've seen, I mean,
you've seen that video of, like,</b>

347
00:30:15,423 --> 00:30:17,325
<b>that Mercedes crashing
into that other car.</b>

348
00:30:17,425 --> 00:30:18,927
<b>-That's New York.
-That's New York.</b>

349
00:30:19,027 --> 00:30:20,362
<b>You know how you know
that New York is crazy?</b>

350
00:30:20,462 --> 00:30:21,563
<b>-How?
-Is that the people walking by</b>

351
00:30:21,663 --> 00:30:23,531
<b>in that video don't even stop.</b>

352
00:30:23,632 --> 00:30:24,766
<b>They don't-- then, you know,
I'm telling you...</b>

353
00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:26,568
<b>I hope you're not gonna
let that change you.</b>

354
00:30:26,668 --> 00:30:29,271
<b>It does not. In-in L.A.
it's-- we're so chill.</b>

355
00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:32,073
<b>Like, in New York, if I say
to you, "Let's have lunch,"</b>

356
00:30:32,173 --> 00:30:34,242
<b>New Yorkers go, "Well, what
time? Where we gonna meet?"</b>

357
00:30:34,342 --> 00:30:35,810
<b>I'm just trying to say goodbye.</b>

358
00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:38,146
<b>-(Trevor laughs)
-That's how we are in L.A.</b>

359
00:30:38,246 --> 00:30:39,614
<b>Like, that-- it's-it's too much.</b>

360
00:30:39,714 --> 00:30:42,317
<b>We-we-- when we say,
"We gonna go to lunch" in L.A.,</b>

361
00:30:42,484 --> 00:30:44,185
<b>it's just like, I'm trying
to get out the conversation.</b>

362
00:30:44,286 --> 00:30:45,487
<b>We don't mean it.</b>

363
00:30:45,587 --> 00:30:47,555
<b>But New Yorkers are ver--
Even riding the subway--</b>

364
00:30:47,656 --> 00:30:49,024
<b>like, everybody
looks at their cell phone,</b>

365
00:30:49,124 --> 00:30:50,558
<b>they don't see anything,
you know?</b>

366
00:30:50,659 --> 00:30:54,729
<b>One lady got on the subway,
she's like, "Hello! I am blind</b>

367
00:30:54,829 --> 00:30:57,899
<b>and I need money
and I had a fire in my place!"</b>

368
00:30:57,999 --> 00:31:01,503
<b>And she was like,
"Girl, you so funny. I am blind!</b>

369
00:31:02,504 --> 00:31:03,872
<b>And I need your help."</b>

370
00:31:03,972 --> 00:31:05,640
<b>New Yorkers hustle.</b>

371
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:08,343
<b>-It's another world. -It's
another world and I love it.</b>

372
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:10,545
<b>So, you are at
the beginning of a new show.</b>

373
00:31:10,645 --> 00:31:12,080
<b>-Yes.
-Everything is an opportunity,</b>

374
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:15,350
<b>Everything is a possibility.
It kicks off on September 12.</b>

375
00:31:15,517 --> 00:31:17,619
<b>I want to know,
if you could fast forward</b>

376
00:31:17,719 --> 00:31:19,187
<b>five years, ten years--
however many years</b>

377
00:31:19,287 --> 00:31:21,122
<b>you want to be doing the show--
what is the thing</b>

378
00:31:21,222 --> 00:31:23,758
<b>you want to leave people saying
afterwards when they go, like,</b>

379
00:31:23,858 --> 00:31:28,063
<b>"Man, that Sherri Shepherd show,
it did, it was, it--" You know?</b>

380
00:31:28,163 --> 00:31:30,365
<b>Uh, I think I would
want people to say</b>

381
00:31:30,465 --> 00:31:31,833
<b>-"Sherri Shepherd gave me joy.
-Mm.</b>

382
00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:34,469
<b>Sherri Shepherd
made me feel good."</b>

383
00:31:34,502 --> 00:31:35,604
<b>That's what--
I think you have to know</b>

384
00:31:35,704 --> 00:31:37,372
<b>who you are
when you walk in.</b>

385
00:31:37,472 --> 00:31:39,007
<b>I think women-- we also
have a problem with that,</b>

386
00:31:39,107 --> 00:31:41,076
<b>knowing what is unique about us.</b>

387
00:31:41,176 --> 00:31:43,878
<b>And so, you know, that
is what is unique about me.</b>

388
00:31:43,979 --> 00:31:46,047
<b>I want to make you smile
and feel good.</b>

389
00:31:46,147 --> 00:31:48,483
<b>So I hope that people
leave saying that.</b>

390
00:31:48,516 --> 00:31:50,585
<b>And women, and I hope
you leave going,</b>

391
00:31:50,685 --> 00:31:53,154
<b>"Sherri taught me
how to negotiate my money.</b>

392
00:31:53,254 --> 00:31:56,691
<b>-Never take the first offer.
Never. -(cheering, applause)</b>

393
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:00,595
<b>Let me tell you something.</b>

394
00:32:00,695 --> 00:32:02,263
<b>No, say no.</b>

395
00:32:02,364 --> 00:32:04,766
<b>I want them to say, "Sherri
taught me how to say no."</b>

396
00:32:04,866 --> 00:32:05,934
<b>-I love this.
-That's right.</b>

397
00:32:06,034 --> 00:32:07,369
<b>Well, if you ask me out,
I won't say no.</b>

398
00:32:07,502 --> 00:32:09,104
<b>That don't apply
to this right here.</b>

399
00:32:09,204 --> 00:32:12,707
<b>But "Sherri taught me
how to say no."</b>

400
00:32:12,807 --> 00:32:14,209
<b>You see, you got to
go for what you want.</b>

401
00:32:14,309 --> 00:32:16,411
<b>I don't know when I'm gonna
be sitting behind this desk,</b>

402
00:32:16,511 --> 00:32:19,447
<b>so I got to tell Trevor
how I feel, okay?</b>

403
00:32:19,514 --> 00:32:21,616
<b>You got to let him know.</b>

404
00:32:21,716 --> 00:32:23,551
<b>I did it for Prince.</b>

405
00:32:23,652 --> 00:32:26,087
<b>I told Prince the same thing.</b>

406
00:32:29,658 --> 00:32:31,993
<b>-So we're going Africa?
-I will go to Africa with you.</b>

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<b>-Let's go to Africa.
-I do. Yes, I do.</b>

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<b>I sw-- Yes, did you hear that?
Did you hear that?</b>

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<b>Sherri Shepherd, everybody.</b>

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<b>Thank you so much
for joining me on the show.</b>

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<b>Make sure to tune in
September 12.</b>

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<b>We're gonna take a quick break.
we'll be right back after this.</b>

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<b>(cheering, applause)</b>