1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:03,003 (cheering) 2 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:07,341 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 3 00:00:07,441 --> 00:00:09,676 My guest tonight is a former Nickelodeon star 4 00:00:09,776 --> 00:00:11,678 who is here to talk about her best-selling memoir 5 00:00:11,778 --> 00:00:13,981 I'm Glad My Mom Died. 6 00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:16,016 Please welcome Jennette McCurdy. 7 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:18,051 -♪ ♪ -(cheering, applause) 8 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:20,454 Hi. 9 00:00:22,256 --> 00:00:23,357 Thank you. 10 00:00:30,597 --> 00:00:31,899 -Jennette McCurdy, -Hi. 11 00:00:31,999 --> 00:00:34,201 -welcome to The Daily Show. -I feel so short. 12 00:00:34,301 --> 00:00:36,103 -My feet aren't touching the floor. -Oh, that's-that's fine. 13 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:37,571 As long as, like, you can-you can swing them-- 14 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:39,006 -I can swing 'em around. -You can-- Yeah. It's, uh, 15 00:00:39,106 --> 00:00:40,307 -as long as you enjoy it. -Oh, yeah, it's good. 16 00:00:40,407 --> 00:00:41,642 I can lower the desk as well, if you'd like. 17 00:00:41,742 --> 00:00:43,577 -This is-this is good. -Okay, good. Okay. 18 00:00:43,677 --> 00:00:45,479 I can't actually do it. I'm glad you didn't ask me to do it. 19 00:00:45,579 --> 00:00:48,282 Um, welcome to the show and congratulations 20 00:00:48,382 --> 00:00:50,517 on writing a book that, 21 00:00:50,617 --> 00:00:53,187 I think, for many people, is seen as 22 00:00:53,287 --> 00:00:54,922 not just something funny, 23 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,657 not just a story that's interesting, 24 00:00:56,757 --> 00:00:58,759 but in many ways a cathartic exploration 25 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:01,061 of how we see the relationships that we have 26 00:01:01,128 --> 00:01:02,763 with many of our parents, our caregivers, 27 00:01:02,863 --> 00:01:04,131 whoever it was in our world, because 28 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:06,934 you wrote a book entitled I'm Glad My Mom Died. 29 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:07,935 Yeah. 30 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:11,805 And it is a massive hit. 31 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:13,774 So, two questions. One, 32 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:16,109 did you hate your mom? 33 00:01:16,210 --> 00:01:18,745 And two, does everybody? 34 00:01:21,181 --> 00:01:24,418 Um, no, I definitely don't hate my mom. Uh, 35 00:01:24,518 --> 00:01:27,387 I think she was a really complicated and nuanced person. 36 00:01:27,487 --> 00:01:29,489 And I try to kind of articulate her 37 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:30,691 to the best of my ability 38 00:01:30,791 --> 00:01:32,392 and all of her many shades and colors. 39 00:01:32,492 --> 00:01:35,796 To me, her humor is really, uh... 40 00:01:35,896 --> 00:01:38,498 She could say things that were so wild 41 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,368 and at times abusive, but she just had a certain cadence 42 00:01:41,468 --> 00:01:43,337 and a rhythm that was so humorous, 43 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:45,973 so I tried to capture that, um, but I certainly didn't hate her. 44 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,108 And I think... I think that's why 45 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:49,476 it was so important for me to write this book. 46 00:01:49,576 --> 00:01:51,645 Because getting to the place where I was finally glad 47 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:53,380 and relieved that she was dead, you know, 48 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,017 it took me so long to be able to accept that, um, reality. 49 00:01:57,117 --> 00:02:00,654 And I also think that's something that people... 50 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,589 You-you-- I didn't hear anybody talking about. 51 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:04,491 I didn't hear anybody saying, you know, 52 00:02:04,591 --> 00:02:07,561 that the sort of honest reality of what their experience 53 00:02:07,661 --> 00:02:09,930 with their-with their parent was, if they had a similar one, 54 00:02:10,063 --> 00:02:12,132 it feels like a thing that you can't say because 55 00:02:12,232 --> 00:02:13,500 society doesn't accept it. It just-- 56 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,801 You have to keep moms on a pedestal and we all 57 00:02:14,902 --> 00:02:16,103 have to have the same experience. 58 00:02:16,203 --> 00:02:17,604 And that just wasn't mine, 59 00:02:17,704 --> 00:02:19,907 so it felt even more important to express it in the book. 60 00:02:20,073 --> 00:02:21,742 You-you go through your entire journey. 61 00:02:21,842 --> 00:02:23,343 Many people, you know, in America 62 00:02:23,443 --> 00:02:25,712 and some parts of the world will remember you from iCarly. 63 00:02:25,812 --> 00:02:28,182 You were-you were this massive child star. 64 00:02:28,282 --> 00:02:30,083 And on the camera, you were all smiles. 65 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:33,320 You made people laugh, everybody enjoyed what you were doing. 66 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:34,821 As soon as you read through the book, you realize 67 00:02:34,922 --> 00:02:37,524 you-you were suffering. You were experiencing trauma. 68 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:39,092 It was really abusive, 69 00:02:39,193 --> 00:02:40,827 in-in how you were doing what you were doing. 70 00:02:40,928 --> 00:02:42,296 It feels like, in many ways, 71 00:02:42,396 --> 00:02:44,231 you were living your mom's dream 72 00:02:44,331 --> 00:02:46,867 and she was making you do this. 73 00:02:46,967 --> 00:02:49,670 -Yeah. -I-I would love to know how you did it. 74 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:52,105 Like, did you have a switch, did you have a-- 75 00:02:52,206 --> 00:02:53,340 did you compartmentalize? 76 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,108 'Cause you-you talk about it in the book, 77 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:56,944 but you could-you could never tell, you could never tell 78 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:58,512 on screen what were you going through. 79 00:02:58,612 --> 00:03:00,380 No, no. So, my mom always wanted to be an actress. 80 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,850 Her dream was to be... famous. 81 00:03:02,950 --> 00:03:04,585 Uh, and she would recount, sort of, these tales 82 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:05,886 of how her parents wouldn't let her. 83 00:03:06,053 --> 00:03:07,921 She would camp out in front of Donny Osmond's house, 84 00:03:08,055 --> 00:03:09,456 bring him, like, posters. 85 00:03:09,556 --> 00:03:11,325 Um, Chris Knight, who played Peter Brady in The Brady Bunch, 86 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:12,726 she swore, like, oh, they had a relationship. 87 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:15,128 I think that was... not true. 88 00:03:15,229 --> 00:03:17,798 Um, Chris Knight, if you're watching, please let me know 89 00:03:17,898 --> 00:03:19,833 -if my mom actually had a relationship with you. -(laughs) 90 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,436 Um, but so she-she was always fascinated with, 91 00:03:22,536 --> 00:03:25,339 kind of, Hollywood and the aura and the romance, 92 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,541 as she saw it, and so she put me in acting when I six 93 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:29,243 to kind of give, I think-- 94 00:03:29,343 --> 00:03:30,911 in my eyes, it was to live vicariously through me 95 00:03:31,078 --> 00:03:32,946 and to fulfill her dream of what she had always wanted. 96 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,982 But it seems like she subjected you to a nightmare. 97 00:03:35,082 --> 00:03:36,517 -Yeah. -Because-because you were in a world 98 00:03:36,617 --> 00:03:38,185 where it's supposed to be fun, you know, 99 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:40,254 -you're making kid's television, and-and yet... -Yeah. 100 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:41,822 ...it-it seems pretty horrible. 101 00:03:41,922 --> 00:03:43,690 I also wonder if this is the relationship 102 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:45,292 of many child stars. Or do you know, 103 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:47,094 was-was this isolated or do you think this is 104 00:03:47,127 --> 00:03:48,595 a lot more normal that we'd like to admit? 105 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:51,331 I think it's way more common than anyone would care to admit. 106 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:54,101 I know just from my experience of going into auditions, 107 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:56,103 countless times, I'd have, like, 103 fever. 108 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:57,671 My mom would be having me chug Gatorade. 109 00:03:57,771 --> 00:03:59,840 I'd be walking in to, like, pretend to be a homeless child, 110 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:02,142 which is just already so, kind of, messed up as it is. 111 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,244 And there's these-- this-- you know, dozens of other girls 112 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:06,580 lined up to also try and be this homeless child. 113 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,348 And the moms are, like, eyeing each other and like, 114 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:10,551 "Oh, I hope my daughter's better at being homeless than yours." 115 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:13,453 -And it's like, this is so-- What is this world? -(chuckles) 116 00:04:13,554 --> 00:04:14,821 It's so weird. 117 00:04:14,922 --> 00:04:17,257 Uh, but I-I am able to now, kind of, look back 118 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:18,792 and see the-the humor in it, 119 00:04:18,892 --> 00:04:21,094 and I think it is a very absurd reality, 120 00:04:21,195 --> 00:04:23,897 but I do think there's a lot of inherent, um, 121 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:25,399 ironic humor there. 122 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:27,501 I think what-what you've done in the book is precisely that. 123 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:29,536 You've looked back and you've seen the humor. 124 00:04:29,636 --> 00:04:32,539 You-you use the humor. Because this book without the humor 125 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:35,075 is a devastating tale of a young child 126 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:36,343 -who is put into a world... -A pity grab. 127 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:38,178 -It-it really seemed... -It would be so awful. 128 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:39,513 -Oh, my God. -I don't think it would be awful. 129 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:41,248 I think it just would be-- It would be a lot harder 130 00:04:41,348 --> 00:04:43,317 for people to read. I-I think it would be-- It would be painful. 131 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:45,118 -'Cause it is still the real thing. You know? -Mm. 132 00:04:45,219 --> 00:04:46,787 I-I wouldn't even think of it as a pity grab. 133 00:04:46,887 --> 00:04:50,657 But-but the humor is-is a coping mechanism. 134 00:04:50,757 --> 00:04:53,727 It's a tool you're processing your life through. 135 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:57,297 There's a point in the book where I-I find myself 136 00:04:57,397 --> 00:04:58,932 -reading the stories of your mom... -Yeah. 137 00:04:59,099 --> 00:05:01,168 ...understanding the complicated world 138 00:05:01,268 --> 00:05:02,603 -that she existed in... -Yes. 139 00:05:02,703 --> 00:05:04,304 ...but then wondering, 140 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:06,173 you know, like, how you see her. 141 00:05:06,273 --> 00:05:07,841 Like-like, did you forgive her? 142 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:09,209 Were you able to let it all go? 143 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:11,178 Do you still-- do you still hold some of those feelings? 144 00:05:11,278 --> 00:05:13,046 Like, wh-what has your journey been? 145 00:05:13,113 --> 00:05:15,649 Oh, my God, what a big, good question. 146 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:17,417 That's such a deep-- Like, this is what I spent 147 00:05:17,518 --> 00:05:20,521 ten years in therapy, to be able to now say on The Daily Show. 148 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:22,856 (laughter) 149 00:05:22,956 --> 00:05:24,391 (cheering and applause) 150 00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:25,526 That's so cool. 151 00:05:25,626 --> 00:05:27,361 That's really awesome. 152 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:28,762 Um, well, I'm glad you initially, 153 00:05:28,862 --> 00:05:30,063 you know, you were speaking of kind of the humor, 154 00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:31,965 and I do think it's a great coping mechanism. 155 00:05:32,065 --> 00:05:33,634 And-and I don't-- I try not to use it 156 00:05:33,734 --> 00:05:34,868 as a, as a defense mechanism. 157 00:05:34,968 --> 00:05:36,470 I used it that way for a long time initially 158 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:38,438 when I was first kind of trying to grapple with everything. 159 00:05:38,539 --> 00:05:40,741 And I think that led to really unfunny choices, 160 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:43,210 and my, my sense of humor's just sort of overcompensatory 161 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:45,946 and kind of flailing and obnoxious, to be honest. 162 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,815 Um, but I think finding humor in those really intense moments 163 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:51,084 and those tragedies can bring levity where it's necessary. 164 00:05:51,151 --> 00:05:52,286 I hope I've done that. 165 00:05:52,386 --> 00:05:54,922 Um, with my mom, uh, 166 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:57,157 I-I-I haven't gotten to a place of forgiveness, 167 00:05:57,257 --> 00:05:58,825 and I was trying to get to a place of forgiveness 168 00:05:58,926 --> 00:06:00,694 for so long in therapy. 169 00:06:00,794 --> 00:06:05,432 I would, uh, sort of plead almost with my therapist, like, 170 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,401 "Why am I not able to get to this place? 171 00:06:07,501 --> 00:06:08,836 "What is-- what's wrong with me 172 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:10,637 that I'm not able to forgive my mom for this abuse?" 173 00:06:10,737 --> 00:06:12,039 -Hmm. -"Why am I so terrible 174 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:14,675 that I can't get to, get to that place?" 175 00:06:14,775 --> 00:06:16,610 And she eventually said, "You know, Jennette, 176 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:20,047 "what if you just kind of dropped, uh, forgiveness 177 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:21,515 "and didn't make that your goal? 178 00:06:21,615 --> 00:06:24,351 Because that's you still trying to do your mom's work." 179 00:06:24,451 --> 00:06:26,186 -WOMAN: Mm. -I couldn't... Yeah, right? 180 00:06:26,286 --> 00:06:28,055 I mean, that's exactly my reaction. 181 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:29,923 I mm'ed to Erin, yeah. 182 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:31,959 -Wow. -Yeah. 183 00:06:32,059 --> 00:06:34,695 It's, um, yeah, it's-it's a journey that I think 184 00:06:34,795 --> 00:06:36,196 far too many people have been on. 185 00:06:36,296 --> 00:06:37,965 I think a lot of the success of the book has been that. 186 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:39,199 Obviously it's well written, 187 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:41,068 obviously it's-it's fantastically told, 188 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:43,303 but it is a very complicated topic. 189 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:46,073 How do you address the lack of love 190 00:06:46,106 --> 00:06:47,674 or the lack, lack of parenting 191 00:06:47,774 --> 00:06:49,209 that you were supposed to get from that figure? 192 00:06:49,309 --> 00:06:51,144 Because, as you say, Mom is supposed to be 193 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:53,747 -this, this, you know, this god, this icon of everything. -Yep. 194 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:56,250 Dad in some ways as well but not the same, 195 00:06:56,350 --> 00:06:57,851 -and yet you're in a world where you're going... -(laughter) 196 00:06:57,951 --> 00:06:59,353 Oh, no, it's true, you know, people will be like, 197 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:00,854 "Oh, Dad, oh, my dad was okay." 198 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:02,189 -Yeah. -But Mom is-is untouchable. 199 00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:03,457 Or even with dads, 200 00:07:03,557 --> 00:07:04,825 you can be like, "Oh, my dad never showed up," 201 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:06,126 and people are like, "Oh, mine neither, uh-huh." 202 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:07,694 -Right, right. -And then it's totally normal, 203 00:07:07,794 --> 00:07:10,597 but I feel like, with moms, it is very, very much, um, this-- 204 00:07:10,697 --> 00:07:12,099 -there's this pedestal that they're on. -Mm-hmm. 205 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,034 When you, when you broached this topic, 206 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:15,335 when you started thinking about it, 207 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:18,872 were-were you worried that people would turn on you? 208 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:21,708 Um, I felt, even if they did, it was a message worth sharing. 209 00:07:21,808 --> 00:07:22,743 I really, I really mean that. 210 00:07:22,843 --> 00:07:23,744 -Wow, I love that. -Thanks. 211 00:07:23,844 --> 00:07:25,312 -I really do. -Thank you. 212 00:07:25,412 --> 00:07:26,880 'Cause that's a brave stance to take, 'cause a lot of people 213 00:07:27,047 --> 00:07:28,348 would be like, "How dare you talk about your mom like that?" 214 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:29,683 -Yes, yes. -It's actually... 215 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:31,185 (applause) 216 00:07:31,285 --> 00:07:33,820 (laughs) It's-it's-it's-it's so crazy how, 217 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:35,722 I mean, everything gets memefied and, you know... 218 00:07:35,822 --> 00:07:37,658 -(laughs): Yeah. -There-there was a, there was a post I saw 219 00:07:37,758 --> 00:07:40,327 online where someone was trying to chastise everybody 220 00:07:40,427 --> 00:07:43,063 for talking about the queen, you know, and, like, just going, 221 00:07:43,163 --> 00:07:45,532 -like, "We're glad this monarchy is ending in some way." -Yeah. 222 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:48,635 And someone was like, "Replace-- you think it's funny, 223 00:07:48,735 --> 00:07:50,904 "try and replace the queen with your mom 224 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:52,072 and see how funny it is." 225 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:53,407 And someone put a picture of your book up, 226 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:55,075 and then it was like I'm Glad the Queen Died. 227 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:57,211 (laughs): Yeah. 228 00:07:57,311 --> 00:08:00,013 And it feels like... no, but it feels like, that is... 229 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,115 It feels like that's what the book is dealing with, 230 00:08:02,216 --> 00:08:05,819 is you dealing with the idea of a mom, 231 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:07,721 and how that... how that competes 232 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:09,923 or conflicts with your actual mom. 233 00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:12,893 Yes. Oh, my God. Yeah. 234 00:08:13,026 --> 00:08:15,229 -That should be on the backflap. -(laughter) 235 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:17,898 -I-I can write it. Um... -I wish you would. 236 00:08:18,031 --> 00:08:20,634 You shared your story with us, you've gone through a world. 237 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,069 Now you are back in the world 238 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:23,504 of entertainment in a very different way. 239 00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:25,038 You're behind the camera. You're directing, 240 00:08:25,072 --> 00:08:26,707 you're writing, you've got a podcast. 241 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:28,709 It's interesting because it's a world 242 00:08:28,809 --> 00:08:30,177 that was so toxic to you, 243 00:08:30,277 --> 00:08:31,712 and now, you've come back in a different way. 244 00:08:31,812 --> 00:08:34,615 Do you ever worry that it may suck you back in? 245 00:08:34,715 --> 00:08:37,317 And how do you prevent yourself from going back into that space 246 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:38,785 of feeling like you're defined 247 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:40,754 by everything that you hated once? 248 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:42,756 Oh, my God. I'm-I'm so... 249 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,291 Can I just say, I respect you so much? 250 00:08:44,391 --> 00:08:45,759 I... This is so cool. 251 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,761 -(applause and cheering) -I'm so happy to be here, truly. 252 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:50,063 -Like, this is amazing. -Thank you very much. 253 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:53,200 Um, I... I have been scared of that. 254 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:55,502 There have been a few times when I have done some, uh... 255 00:08:55,602 --> 00:08:59,706 some press that shall not be named where it's so bizarre. 256 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:02,142 Because I'm, like, hearing the pre-roll of, you know, the... 257 00:09:02,242 --> 00:09:04,912 They show, like, the clip of me from the past, or whatever. 258 00:09:05,012 --> 00:09:06,813 And-and it's so dramatic. 259 00:09:06,914 --> 00:09:09,483 It's like, "McCurdy vanished from the spotlight 260 00:09:09,583 --> 00:09:11,385 "after her traumatic childhood 261 00:09:11,485 --> 00:09:13,287 with the trauma and the devastation." 262 00:09:13,387 --> 00:09:15,189 It's like, "Geez, can we calm down?" 263 00:09:15,289 --> 00:09:17,157 And then I, like, walked out to this, you know, 264 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:19,159 to this, like, cold, domineering kind of set. 265 00:09:19,259 --> 00:09:20,661 And then, there's the journalist, 266 00:09:20,761 --> 00:09:22,829 and there's three inches of makeup on the guy's face. 267 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:27,267 And it's just, like, you know, it does feel kind of, um... 268 00:09:27,367 --> 00:09:31,038 It feels easy to lose sight of reality in these environments. 269 00:09:31,104 --> 00:09:34,441 -Huh. -And so I really try to keep myself grounded 270 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,109 and stay on top of, you know, therapy 271 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:38,712 and being in touch with things that really are good touchstones 272 00:09:38,812 --> 00:09:40,347 and grounding tools for me. 273 00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:42,749 'Cause I do not want to, um, get lost in it. 274 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:44,751 But also, I will say, I trust that I won't. 275 00:09:44,852 --> 00:09:47,254 I-I don't think I had the tools before to not get lost in it. 276 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:49,556 -Mm-hmm. -To not feel sort of caught up 277 00:09:49,656 --> 00:09:51,692 -in the whirlwind of-of showbiz. -Right. 278 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:54,094 Um, but now I feel like, you know what? 279 00:09:54,194 --> 00:09:56,063 There are some elements that are really cool about it, 280 00:09:56,163 --> 00:09:58,065 uh, like this, and then, there are some that aren't. 281 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:00,901 And-and that's fine. I can use my own discernment 282 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:03,737 and, uh... and just be grateful for the good experiences. 283 00:10:03,837 --> 00:10:05,672 Well, we're grateful for you. Thank you for writing the book. 284 00:10:05,772 --> 00:10:07,074 -Thank you. -Really wonderful having you. 285 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:09,343 -Thank you so much. -For real. Thank you so much. 286 00:10:09,443 --> 00:10:12,179 I'm Glad My Mom Died is available now 287 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:13,814 wherever you buy your books. Jennette McCurdy, everybody. 288 00:10:13,914 --> 00:10:15,148 We're going to take a quick break, 289 00:10:15,249 --> 00:10:16,917 but we'll be right back after this. 290 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:18,318 -Thank you for real. -Oh, my God. 291 00:10:18,418 --> 00:10:20,487 (applause and cheering) 292 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:17,583 Well, that's our show for tonight, but 293 00:15:17,683 --> 00:15:20,386 before we go, before we go, please consider supporting 294 00:15:20,486 --> 00:15:22,021 Vibrant Emotional Health. 295 00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:23,556 They're a nonprofit dedicated 296 00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:25,792 to helping people achieve emotional well-being 297 00:15:25,892 --> 00:15:27,493 with innovative community programs 298 00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:31,030 as well as The 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. 299 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:32,932 So if you want to support them in their valuable work, 300 00:15:33,032 --> 00:15:34,734 then please donate at the link below. 301 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,670 Until next time, stay safe out there and remember. 302 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:39,372 When life throws you a curveball, 303 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:41,240 you just ka-ka-ka-ka that thing away. 304 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:44,043 Now here it is-- Your Moment of Zen. 305 00:15:44,143 --> 00:15:46,179 ♪ ♪ 306 00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:50,216 NEWSMAN: You may have heard this catchy tune 307 00:15:50,316 --> 00:15:51,951 about corn on social media. 308 00:15:52,051 --> 00:15:54,120 The viral song was created from an interview done 309 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:56,222 by a seven-year-old boy named Tariq 310 00:15:56,322 --> 00:15:59,459 who enthusiastically declared his love for corn. 311 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:01,360 "For me, I really like corn." 312 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,329 -What do you like about corn? -"It's corn." 313 00:16:03,429 --> 00:16:05,031 "It's a big lump of knots. It has the juice." 314 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:06,265 "It has the juice." 315 00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:07,934 "I can't imagine a more beautiful thing." 316 00:16:08,034 --> 00:16:09,202 "It's corn." 317 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:10,436 NEWSMAN 3: "I can I tell you all about it. 318 00:16:10,536 --> 00:16:11,838 I mean, look at this thing." 319 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:14,340 "When I tried it with butter, everything changed." 320 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,108 "It's corn."