1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:02,135 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:02,236 --> 00:00:03,770 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from New York City, 3 00:00:03,871 --> 00:00:07,674 the only city in America, it's The Daily Show. 4 00:00:07,774 --> 00:00:12,112 Tonight-- Putin's sham election, 5 00:00:12,212 --> 00:00:14,448 where K-pop came from 6 00:00:14,548 --> 00:00:16,783 and William MacAskill. 7 00:00:16,884 --> 00:00:21,455 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah! 8 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:24,725 (applause and cheering) 9 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:37,938 What's going on, everybody? 10 00:00:38,038 --> 00:00:39,373 Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 11 00:00:39,473 --> 00:00:40,741 Thank you so much for tuning in. 12 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:42,109 Thank you for coming out in person. 13 00:00:42,209 --> 00:00:44,111 Thank you so much for being here. 14 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:46,180 Thank you so much for being here. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,648 Thank you so much for being here, everybody. 16 00:00:47,748 --> 00:00:49,349 We've got a great show for you tonight. 17 00:00:49,449 --> 00:00:51,351 Take a seat, everybody. 18 00:00:51,451 --> 00:00:54,054 COVID is being replaced by something even worse, 19 00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:56,557 NASA has launched its war with space, 20 00:00:56,657 --> 00:00:59,326 and Ronny Chieng goes deep into the world of K-pop. 21 00:00:59,426 --> 00:01:00,794 So let's do this, people. 22 00:01:00,894 --> 00:01:02,696 Let's jump straight into today's headlines. 23 00:01:02,796 --> 00:01:05,465 -♪ ♪ -(applause and cheering) 24 00:01:08,635 --> 00:01:10,404 All right, everybody. 25 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:12,372 Before we get into the big stories, let's catch up 26 00:01:12,472 --> 00:01:14,074 on a few other things going on in the world, 27 00:01:14,107 --> 00:01:18,745 starting with the big moment watched live around the globe. 28 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:23,817 Last night, NASA tested a new planetary defense system 29 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:28,255 by smashing a spacecraft into an asteroid. 30 00:01:28,355 --> 00:01:30,390 Boom! Yeah. 31 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:33,594 How you like that, asteroid? 32 00:01:33,694 --> 00:01:35,696 That was for the dinosaurs. 33 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:37,130 (laughter) 34 00:01:37,231 --> 00:01:40,667 (applause and cheering) 35 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:42,469 And in case you're wondering, in case you're wondering. 36 00:01:42,569 --> 00:01:45,973 No, the asteroid was not heading for Earth, all right? 37 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,508 We're just testing the system. 38 00:01:47,608 --> 00:01:49,276 It wasn't heading towards us. 39 00:01:49,376 --> 00:01:52,546 But now the other asteroids-- they know not to test us. 40 00:01:52,646 --> 00:01:56,650 "You don't mess with Earth, man. We're loco, man." 41 00:01:56,750 --> 00:01:58,652 In health news, researchers have discovered 42 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:01,755 that you can dissolve pills faster 43 00:02:01,855 --> 00:02:04,324 if you lie on your right side. 44 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:07,127 Which raises a big question for me. 45 00:02:07,227 --> 00:02:09,563 -How do I become a researcher? -(laughter) 46 00:02:09,663 --> 00:02:12,666 No, 'cause it just sounds like fun, right? 47 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:14,902 -(applause) -Sounds like a lot of fun. 48 00:02:15,068 --> 00:02:18,238 You just sit around all day thinking random thoughts. 49 00:02:18,338 --> 00:02:20,440 Like, "Huh. I wonder what would happen 50 00:02:20,541 --> 00:02:22,809 "if I took Advil doggy style. 51 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:25,078 Huh. Huh." 52 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:27,481 (applause) 53 00:02:27,581 --> 00:02:28,982 Oh, and in financial news, 54 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:31,151 Donald Trump is back on the Forbes 400 list 55 00:02:31,251 --> 00:02:34,821 of America's richest people at number 343, 56 00:02:34,922 --> 00:02:36,657 which I love so much. Yeah. 57 00:02:36,757 --> 00:02:37,991 I mean, how ironic is it 58 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:40,694 that Donald Trump is the only guy doing well 59 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:43,497 -in Joe Biden's economy, huh? -(laughter) 60 00:02:43,597 --> 00:02:45,199 Yeah, he's going to end up running for president 61 00:02:45,299 --> 00:02:46,767 and then voting for Biden. 62 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:49,336 "I made so much money under Joe Brandon. 63 00:02:49,436 --> 00:02:51,305 "And this Trump guy was crazy. 64 00:02:51,405 --> 00:02:53,307 "I hear he wanted bleach in his lung. 65 00:02:53,407 --> 00:02:55,676 He's crazy. I'm voting for Joe." 66 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:57,845 But let's move on to some of the bigger stories of the day, 67 00:02:57,945 --> 00:03:01,849 starting with our ongoing coverage of the war in Ukraine. 68 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:04,084 ♪ ♪ 69 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:09,723 It has been seven months 70 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:12,960 since Vladimir Putin went all Kool-Aid man on Ukraine. 71 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:17,564 But from day one, the war has been a disaster for him. 72 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:20,267 First, Putin tried to take over all of Ukraine, 73 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:22,336 but the Ukrainian army stopped him. 74 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:24,771 Then he tried to take over the eastern half, 75 00:03:24,872 --> 00:03:26,607 but the Ukrainian army stopped him. 76 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:30,244 Then he tried to slide into an Instagram model's DMs, 77 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,513 and Instagram, like, it was just Instagram 78 00:03:32,613 --> 00:03:33,814 so the Ukrainian army didn't do anything 79 00:03:33,914 --> 00:03:35,282 because it was Instagram. 80 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:36,650 Yeah, he was-he was stopped by the fact 81 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:39,319 that he looks like a heavily- botoxed Gollum in a suit. 82 00:03:39,419 --> 00:03:41,288 No offense to Gollum-- I just need an example. 83 00:03:41,388 --> 00:03:44,091 The point is, Vladimir Putin is not #winning. 84 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:46,527 So, after seven months of war, 85 00:03:46,627 --> 00:03:50,097 the Russian army only controls a slice of Ukraine. 86 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:51,698 And now the Ukrainians 87 00:03:51,798 --> 00:03:54,101 are threatening to take that back, too. 88 00:03:54,168 --> 00:03:57,004 But before that happens, Vladimir Putin is saying, 89 00:03:57,104 --> 00:04:00,474 "Hey, hey, hey, what about democracy?" 90 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:02,876 WOMAN: In Ukraine, Russian controlled areas 91 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:03,944 in the east of the country 92 00:04:04,044 --> 00:04:06,780 are wrapping up a series of referendums 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,850 asking voters if they want to be a part of Russia. 94 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:12,886 The votes are illegal under international law 95 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:16,123 and some Ukrainians have been forced to vote at gunpoint. 96 00:04:16,223 --> 00:04:19,326 WOMAN 2: Election officials, accompanied by armed soldiers, 97 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:22,062 go traipsing up flights of stairs, knocking on doors, 98 00:04:22,162 --> 00:04:23,564 searching for voters. 99 00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:25,899 In the past few minutes, the Russian state media 100 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:27,801 has announced the primary results, 101 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:30,571 claiming that people have voted overwhelmingly in favor 102 00:04:30,671 --> 00:04:32,739 of becoming part of the Russian federation. 103 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:36,844 The results supposedly showing 97% or 98% of the vote 104 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:40,113 being in favor of joining the federation. 105 00:04:40,214 --> 00:04:41,448 Yeah, you hear that? 106 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:43,450 Russian soldiers are going door-to-door 107 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,385 forcing people to vote to join Russia. 108 00:04:45,485 --> 00:04:46,720 And so because of that, 109 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:49,723 97% of the vote has been pro-Putin. 110 00:04:49,823 --> 00:04:51,158 Yeah. But, I mean, let's be honest. 111 00:04:51,258 --> 00:04:53,493 I mean, these-these voters have a "choice" 112 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:55,462 in the same way we have a "choice" 113 00:04:55,562 --> 00:04:57,631 to not accept cookies on that website, you know? 114 00:04:57,731 --> 00:04:58,932 (laughter) 115 00:04:59,099 --> 00:05:00,767 Yeah, it's like, "What? So, what, if I pick no, 116 00:05:00,868 --> 00:05:02,536 "can I not see how child stars have age? 117 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:05,572 What kind of a choice is that?!" 118 00:05:05,672 --> 00:05:08,742 97 percent. 119 00:05:08,842 --> 00:05:11,445 You know what my question is: 120 00:05:11,545 --> 00:05:13,580 Who the hell is the three percent? 121 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,082 No, I'm really impressed by this. 122 00:05:15,182 --> 00:05:18,418 Who had the balls to still vote against Putin 123 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,521 while his soldiers watched them mark their ballots? 124 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:23,457 Who was there and just like, "Yes, I have voted... 125 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:25,459 "for your mama. Ah. 126 00:05:25,559 --> 00:05:26,894 "Ah, look at. 127 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:28,562 "Oh, I voted twice. 128 00:05:28,662 --> 00:05:30,230 Oh, oh." 129 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,165 (applause) 130 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:33,867 So, yeah, because it's a sham, 131 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:36,837 it looks like "98%" of "the voters" 132 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:39,406 in this "election" "voted" to become a part of Russia. 133 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:42,309 And honestly, like, why do they even go through all of this? 134 00:05:42,409 --> 00:05:45,112 Huh? Like going door-to-door, making everyone sign shit 135 00:05:45,212 --> 00:05:47,281 just so you can do what you're already doing anyway. 136 00:05:47,381 --> 00:05:48,849 I mean, it's one thing to conquer a town 137 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:52,386 and blow up their buildings but then to make them do paperwork? 138 00:05:52,486 --> 00:05:56,089 There is evil and then there's evil! 139 00:05:56,123 --> 00:05:57,958 And this is that classic middle school bully move, 140 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,827 forcing you to say something and then acting like it's legit. 141 00:06:00,928 --> 00:06:02,529 "Say you want to eat dog poop, say you want to eat dog poop." 142 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:04,031 "Oh, I like to eat dog poop." 143 00:06:04,097 --> 00:06:06,033 (laughing): "He said it, he likes eating dog poop." 144 00:06:06,099 --> 00:06:07,634 "No, I didn't, Steve. 145 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,037 "I just said it because you made me say it. 146 00:06:10,137 --> 00:06:12,172 I'm glad your parents broke up." 147 00:06:15,108 --> 00:06:18,045 But let's move on... 148 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:19,947 to some news that's closer to home. 149 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:21,815 Even though the coronavirus pandemic seems 150 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:24,751 to finally be on its way out, I think we can all admit 151 00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:28,822 the world is not exactly the same as it used to be. 152 00:06:28,922 --> 00:06:32,059 We're less eager to shake strangers' hands, you know, 153 00:06:32,159 --> 00:06:34,328 people generally don't sit next to each other 154 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:36,330 in public places anymore, 155 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:39,333 and now every time you rob a bank, it takes so much longer 156 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:41,068 for people to know you're the robber 157 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:42,836 because everyone else is wearing a mask. 158 00:06:42,936 --> 00:06:44,872 Yeah, so then you have to pull out a gun, 159 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:47,474 but because it's America, everyone else pulls out a gun, 160 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:48,909 and then it's like at that point you just end up 161 00:06:49,076 --> 00:06:50,444 opening up a checking account and leaving. 162 00:06:50,544 --> 00:06:51,979 You know, I was just trying to rob the bank. 163 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,146 Pandemic spoiled everything. 164 00:06:53,247 --> 00:06:55,516 But good news, good news, people. 165 00:06:55,616 --> 00:06:57,484 There is one part of American life 166 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:59,753 that is coming roaring back. 167 00:06:59,853 --> 00:07:03,023 Traffic is coming back to pre-pandemic levels. 168 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,491 I've seen it with my own eyes. 169 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:07,427 This, all thanks to a push for workers to return to the office. 170 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:10,230 Major U.S. cities, including Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, 171 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:14,768 seeing more commuter traffic congestion, and it is growing. 172 00:07:14,868 --> 00:07:18,138 Traffic is above pre-pandemic levels in Miami and Dallas, 173 00:07:18,238 --> 00:07:21,241 in Houston and in Phoenix. 174 00:07:21,341 --> 00:07:23,210 There is an interesting disparity, though, 175 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:24,845 taking place in the numbers. 176 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:28,715 Monday and Friday, that is when traffic is typically lower, 177 00:07:28,815 --> 00:07:31,451 even lower than it was before the pandemic. 178 00:07:31,552 --> 00:07:35,756 Wednesday and Thursday are the really big days for traffic now 179 00:07:35,856 --> 00:07:37,090 in major cities across the country. 180 00:07:37,191 --> 00:07:39,927 It really starts to begin to rise today, Tuesday. 181 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:44,831 Yeah, you see, because everyone now works remote part-time 182 00:07:44,932 --> 00:07:47,868 and then everyone gets to choose which days they work remote 183 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,536 and which days they come in, 184 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:52,139 all of the traffic that used to be during the week 185 00:07:52,239 --> 00:07:55,676 is now only on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, 186 00:07:55,776 --> 00:07:56,944 which sucks. 187 00:07:57,077 --> 00:08:00,380 All of it crammed together. 188 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,050 I will say, as bad as it is for us humans, 189 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:05,385 it is good for the cars, you know. 190 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:07,020 Yeah, because now that traffic is slow, 191 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,656 it gives them a chance to catch up again. 192 00:08:10,624 --> 00:08:13,460 Hey there, Craig, hey! 193 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,564 -Hey, Craig, long time no see, buddy, hey! -(horns honking) 194 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:20,234 Yeah, nice paint job! Ha! 195 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:22,302 Nothing wrong with turning back the clock a little bit, huh? 196 00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:24,738 Me? Yeah, things have been good. (chuckles) 197 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:26,907 Some teenagers had sex in me-- that was cool. 198 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,175 (chuckles) 199 00:08:28,275 --> 00:08:30,777 Oh, boy, did you hear about Jerry, by the way? 200 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,412 His owner dumped him for an electric. 201 00:08:32,513 --> 00:08:34,848 Yeah, he's taking it real hard, he's hooked on diesel now. 202 00:08:34,948 --> 00:08:36,517 It's a real shame, man. 203 00:08:36,617 --> 00:08:38,185 Oh, by the way, looks like my lane is moving. 204 00:08:38,285 --> 00:08:40,053 See you in two seconds, buddy! 205 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,289 (laughs) 206 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:44,424 (applause) 207 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:49,630 You know... 208 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:51,131 You know, when-when you think about it, 209 00:08:51,231 --> 00:08:53,467 the new traffic problem makes sense, right, 210 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:55,936 'cause everyone would rather spend an extra day at home 211 00:08:56,069 --> 00:09:00,240 on a Monday and a Friday, and that means that those days 212 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,709 are gonna be the days when everyone is chilling, right? 213 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:04,344 'Cause those are the days when you're making the hangover 214 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:06,547 or recovering from the hangover, you know what I mean? 215 00:09:06,647 --> 00:09:08,282 Yeah, but now, but now, think about this, 216 00:09:08,382 --> 00:09:10,450 if everyone is choosing the same days to be on the road, 217 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:12,386 then those days are gonna suck even more, 218 00:09:12,486 --> 00:09:14,188 which means Tuesday is gonna be the new Friday 219 00:09:14,288 --> 00:09:17,024 and then Thursday is gonna be the new Monday? 220 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:19,359 And then-- Wait, what? Oh, I guess Wednesday's 221 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:21,161 still gonna to be in the middle, it'll be that weird day 222 00:09:21,261 --> 00:09:24,031 in the middle, like the D that nobody even uses. Like... 223 00:09:24,131 --> 00:09:28,035 No, who says "Wed-nesday," anyway, huh? 224 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:31,338 It's probably the same people who say "Feb-ruary." 225 00:09:31,438 --> 00:09:34,308 Should be arrested. The point is-- the point is-- 226 00:09:34,408 --> 00:09:35,609 this problem is happening 227 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:38,045 because the week was designed incorrectly. 228 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,279 Yeah, think about it. 229 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:41,915 Who said the week has to be seven days, huh? 230 00:09:42,049 --> 00:09:43,483 That's not a rule. 231 00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:44,952 That's what people don't realize. 232 00:09:45,052 --> 00:09:47,287 If we all do the same week, it's not gonna get better. 233 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:49,623 My solution is instead of seven days we should have 234 00:09:49,723 --> 00:09:51,358 a five-day week, yeah? Think about it, think about it. 235 00:09:51,458 --> 00:09:53,327 Because you've seen every study that comes out that says 236 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:55,062 the fewer days we work, doesn't mean that 237 00:09:55,162 --> 00:09:57,598 production goes down, right? No productivity decreases. 238 00:09:57,698 --> 00:09:58,966 All we do is spend extra time in the office, 239 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:01,034 spending like we're working when, really, we're just 240 00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:03,203 googling "how long until Friday gets here," 241 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:05,372 so we don't actually need more days in the office. 242 00:10:05,472 --> 00:10:07,274 Think about it. Three days of work. That's what I propose. 243 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:09,309 We do three days of work, two days of weekend. 244 00:10:09,409 --> 00:10:10,711 -(cheering, applause) -Yeah, yeah. 245 00:10:10,811 --> 00:10:14,214 Three days of work. Two days of weekend. 246 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:16,517 Sounds like a perfect week, yeah? Less traffic. 247 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:17,885 You're just like, "Aw, it's Monday. 248 00:10:17,985 --> 00:10:21,255 "Oh, it's Wednesday already! Friday, what a week! 249 00:10:21,355 --> 00:10:23,290 By the way, I'm gonna need Monday off, I've got a thing." 250 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:25,058 It's the perfect week. All right, that's it 251 00:10:25,158 --> 00:10:26,827 for today's headlines. Let's move on to something 252 00:10:26,927 --> 00:10:28,629 that everyone loves now. It is time to check in on today's 253 00:10:28,729 --> 00:10:31,798 lotto numbers with our very own Dulcé Sloan, everybody. 254 00:10:31,899 --> 00:10:33,433 (cheering, applause) 255 00:10:33,534 --> 00:10:37,171 Hello. Hello. 256 00:10:37,271 --> 00:10:39,406 So nice to see you again, Dulcé. 257 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,076 How, uh, how are you doing today? 258 00:10:43,177 --> 00:10:45,112 Well, you know, I woke up on the right side of the dirt, 259 00:10:45,212 --> 00:10:47,681 -so it is what it is, baby. -All right. Well, Dulcé, 260 00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:49,082 hit with us the numbers. 261 00:10:49,183 --> 00:10:51,985 You know, I heard Trump's back on the Forbes 400 list. 262 00:10:52,085 --> 00:10:53,187 Oh, yeah, yeah, he is, he is. 263 00:10:53,287 --> 00:10:56,089 Like I give a damn. Listen... 264 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:58,358 they just keep putting out this list. 265 00:10:58,458 --> 00:11:01,862 Like, why are we supposed to care? 266 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:03,497 It's just a bunch of Trump-- it's, like, 267 00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:04,731 a bunch of rich (bleep) we don't know. 268 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,967 Like, why am I supposed to care 269 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:08,969 that you rich? 270 00:11:09,069 --> 00:11:11,738 I still eat at Checkers. Like, what are we talking about? 271 00:11:13,507 --> 00:11:15,242 Right? Like, why do we need to know this information? 272 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:16,677 Like, they're basically giving us a list 273 00:11:16,777 --> 00:11:19,213 of 400 people we should rob. 274 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:28,355 It's like a crime starter pack. 275 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:30,958 Like, don't rob your neighbor, rob number 26. 276 00:11:31,091 --> 00:11:31,959 Like, it makes sense. 277 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:34,261 Okay, well, speaking of cash. 278 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:35,762 Thank you for sharing all of that, Dulcé. 279 00:11:35,863 --> 00:11:37,364 Can-can we get the lotto numbers, please? 280 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:40,100 -Listen, I'm trying to tell you something. -Okay. Okay. 281 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,536 -You saw the asteroid story? -I-I did, yeah. 282 00:11:42,636 --> 00:11:46,139 Ooh, I (bleep) with NASA, okay? 283 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,709 Oh, man, I (bleep) with NASA. I love the space museum. 284 00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:51,345 I mean, I wouldn't go to space. 285 00:11:51,445 --> 00:11:52,913 'Cause I don't believe in going anywhere 286 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:54,715 where you have to bring your own air. 287 00:12:04,291 --> 00:12:06,360 It's a fact. I'll never scuba dive. 288 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:07,694 Like, if I was supposed to be down there, 289 00:12:07,794 --> 00:12:10,197 I'd have gills. This is dumb. 290 00:12:10,297 --> 00:12:11,665 Like, I'm not that little Halle girl. 291 00:12:11,765 --> 00:12:13,300 I ain't fit to be down there. What I'm saying is, 292 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,668 did you see the live stream? 293 00:12:14,768 --> 00:12:16,603 Yeah. The video that they had, yeah? 294 00:12:16,703 --> 00:12:19,606 They put the camera on the front of the thing. 295 00:12:19,706 --> 00:12:20,707 If you put it on the fr-- 296 00:12:20,807 --> 00:12:22,476 Like, it was running into the asteroid, 297 00:12:22,576 --> 00:12:23,810 so I didn't, like-- 298 00:12:23,911 --> 00:12:25,245 It was like watching a video 299 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,581 of someone falling down wearing a GoPro. 300 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:30,350 Like, are you okay? 301 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:32,286 Am I okay? Are we dead? 302 00:12:32,386 --> 00:12:34,588 Like, I don't know what's happening here. 303 00:12:34,688 --> 00:12:35,822 It was science. 304 00:12:35,923 --> 00:12:39,793 Listen, we ganged up on a innocent asteroid. 305 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:42,462 Just minding his business, 306 00:12:42,563 --> 00:12:44,264 being in space, 307 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:45,966 believing what he believes, 308 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:48,769 being a horoscope. You know. 309 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:50,470 -What? -I mean, that's space. 310 00:12:50,571 --> 00:12:53,841 That's where the horoscopes come from, right? 311 00:12:53,941 --> 00:12:55,342 It was bullying! 312 00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:57,110 -Bullying? What are you talking about? -Yeah! 313 00:12:57,211 --> 00:12:58,545 We done thrown a little machine 314 00:12:58,645 --> 00:13:00,781 into that little asteroid living his life. 315 00:13:00,881 --> 00:13:02,115 It's bullying. 316 00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:04,685 We were messing with that little asteroid. 317 00:13:04,785 --> 00:13:07,287 What if we pissed off his mama? 318 00:13:07,387 --> 00:13:08,889 You seen the cartoons. You know when you mess 319 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:09,890 with the little baby, something-- 320 00:13:10,057 --> 00:13:12,359 the mama always show up pissed. 321 00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:14,361 Little asteroid's mama just gonna be floating out there 322 00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:17,297 like, "Mm, who crashed into you?" 323 00:13:19,399 --> 00:13:21,168 "Don't tell me it was NASA. 324 00:13:21,268 --> 00:13:23,770 Every damn time it's that NASA boy!" 325 00:13:23,871 --> 00:13:25,072 Okay. 326 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:26,840 Dulcé, I don't think the asteroid has a mom. 327 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:28,775 And I feel like we've run out of time completely. 328 00:13:28,876 --> 00:13:31,211 Can you, uh... can you just give us the lotto numbers 329 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:32,813 right now, please, Dulcé? We need the numbers. 330 00:13:32,913 --> 00:13:36,350 (clicks tongue) Ugh, fine. 1, 13, 21, 8, 34. Bye! 331 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:37,985 No, Dulcé, no! 332 00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:40,153 -What? -No, no, no! No, no, no! 333 00:13:40,254 --> 00:13:43,090 -No, no, no, you-- N-No! -I gave you the num-- What?! 334 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:44,725 You used all of my time for your stories 335 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:46,927 -and none of them for the lot... -I was talking about the news. 336 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:48,662 Yeah. Wh-What I'm saying, you-you can't do them 337 00:13:48,762 --> 00:13:50,364 all at once, right? You got to-- you got to, like-- 338 00:13:50,464 --> 00:13:52,165 you got to take your time. 339 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:53,567 Build the suspense. 340 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:56,103 -Oh. Suspense. -Yeah. 341 00:13:56,136 --> 00:13:58,138 I got your suspense. 342 00:14:00,607 --> 00:14:02,843 (laughter) 343 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:05,045 (cheering and applause) 344 00:14:12,119 --> 00:14:14,288 Bye! 345 00:14:14,388 --> 00:14:17,291 Dulcé Sloan, everybody. All right, when we come back, 346 00:14:17,391 --> 00:14:19,960 Ronny Chieng's gonna teach you about K-cop-- K-pop, 347 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:22,496 so don't go away. No, you can't-- you can't just disappear 348 00:14:22,596 --> 00:14:24,598 in the middle of the middle-- Dulcé Sloan, everybody! 349 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:26,767 -I gave him the numbers! -(cheering and applause) 350 00:14:28,402 --> 00:14:31,471 Four, three, two... 351 00:14:31,572 --> 00:14:32,639 one. 352 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:33,674 Oh, my gosh. 353 00:14:33,774 --> 00:14:34,875 -(gasps) -(whooping) 354 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:36,143 Oh, wow. 355 00:14:36,243 --> 00:14:37,811 We have impact! 356 00:14:37,911 --> 00:14:39,713 -And we have impact. -And we have it! 357 00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:42,249 -(laughs) -A giant leap for humanity. 358 00:14:44,051 --> 00:14:46,086 (cheering, applause) 359 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:52,626 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 360 00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:55,195 One of the biggest trends in music 361 00:14:55,295 --> 00:14:58,765 over the last few years has been K-pop. 362 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:01,435 But while it might be new to you, 363 00:15:01,535 --> 00:15:03,904 K-Pop has a long and fascinating history. 364 00:15:04,004 --> 00:15:06,707 So let's find out about it in another edition 365 00:15:06,807 --> 00:15:09,776 of Ronny Chieng Teaches You About Asians. 366 00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:12,613 ♪ ♪ 367 00:15:12,713 --> 00:15:14,047 (school bell ringing) 368 00:15:14,147 --> 00:15:15,983 All right, all right, settle down, everyone 369 00:15:16,083 --> 00:15:17,684 because today we're learning about something 370 00:15:17,784 --> 00:15:19,453 that's blowing up all over the world. 371 00:15:19,553 --> 00:15:21,121 No, not climate change. 372 00:15:21,221 --> 00:15:23,257 Okay, I don't teach boring stuff in this classroom. 373 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:25,259 I'm talking about K-Pop. 374 00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:27,027 It is why your cousin suddenly speaks Korean 375 00:15:27,127 --> 00:15:28,862 more fluently than English. 376 00:15:28,962 --> 00:15:31,164 And believe it or not, K-pop used to be something 377 00:15:31,265 --> 00:15:33,300 that only Koreans knew about. 378 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,702 The rest of the world wasn't always into it. 379 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:37,137 Like how there was a time 380 00:15:37,237 --> 00:15:38,739 when white people didn't know about yoga. 381 00:15:38,839 --> 00:15:41,108 The first group to really break through internationally 382 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:43,143 was The Kim Sisters. 383 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:46,146 Sook-ja, Ai-ja and Min-ja started singing as children 384 00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:48,682 during the Korean War for American GIs. 385 00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:51,952 They sang, they danced, and they played 20 instruments. 386 00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:55,422 I can't even name 20 instruments. 387 00:15:55,522 --> 00:15:59,159 Saxophone, uh... 388 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:02,329 In 1959, they got a contract to perform in Vegas. 389 00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:04,398 Ed Sullivan was taping a show there, 390 00:16:04,498 --> 00:16:06,600 and they managed to book a performance on the show. 391 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:10,003 They were such a hit, they got asked back 20 more times. 392 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:11,905 Do you know how great you have to be 393 00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:14,708 to get asked back to anything 20 times? 394 00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:17,744 I don't even get invited to join LinkedIn that much. 395 00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:20,213 Unfortunately, the growth of K-pop hit a bump 396 00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:22,950 in the road soon after when South Korea fell under 397 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:24,885 the dictatorship of President Park Chung Hee, 398 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,920 who started banning music. 399 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:28,722 They even created a black list of songs 400 00:16:28,822 --> 00:16:31,058 that radio stations couldn't play. 401 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:33,894 Everyone's end-of-year Spotify summary just said, 402 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:36,730 "Your most played song was 'The National anthem.'" 403 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:38,832 But Korean artists kept making music 404 00:16:38,932 --> 00:16:42,636 that challenged the status quo, like folk singer Hahn Dae-soo, 405 00:16:42,736 --> 00:16:45,339 whose albums were banned for anti-government messaging, 406 00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:47,641 or rock guitarist Shin Jung-hyeon, who, 407 00:16:47,741 --> 00:16:49,476 the story goes, defied the dictator's request 408 00:16:49,576 --> 00:16:51,244 to write a song in his honor. 409 00:16:51,345 --> 00:16:53,347 And let's face it: wanting a song to be written about you 410 00:16:53,447 --> 00:16:55,482 is classic dictator behavior, 411 00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:57,451 right after military parades and having 412 00:16:57,551 --> 00:17:00,153 a weird haircut everyone tells you looks great. 413 00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:03,924 By the '80s the dictatorship had loosened. 414 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:06,793 And by "loosened," I mean the dictator was assassinated. 415 00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:10,163 But whatever. It made listening to radio fun again. 416 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:12,566 Outside music was allowed back in the country. 417 00:17:12,666 --> 00:17:16,370 And two of the most influential genres became hip-hop and R & B. 418 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:18,839 Black artists from Michael Jackson to Run-DMC 419 00:17:18,939 --> 00:17:21,541 reshaped the musical landscape of South Korea. 420 00:17:21,642 --> 00:17:24,678 It inspired performers like Deux, DJ DOC 421 00:17:24,778 --> 00:17:26,480 and Seo Taiji and Boys, 422 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:29,549 who were the earliest examples of K-pop as we know it today. 423 00:17:29,650 --> 00:17:31,451 They even made it into the movie soundtrack 424 00:17:31,551 --> 00:17:33,353 for 3 Ninjas Kick Back. 425 00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:35,188 You didn't think we'd be watching a movie 426 00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:36,590 in class today, did you? 427 00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:38,558 Yeah, well, I didn't think I'd still have a hangover, 428 00:17:38,659 --> 00:17:40,627 but sometimes life surprises you. 429 00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:43,363 -♪ ♪ -(clears throat) 430 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:45,532 This was a big moment for Korean pop music, 431 00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:46,767 even if the song was being played 432 00:17:46,867 --> 00:17:49,770 over a scene set in Japan. 433 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:52,039 But give them a break, okay? They're the 3 Ninjas, 434 00:17:52,139 --> 00:17:54,875 not the 3 Cultural Sensitivity Experts. 435 00:17:54,975 --> 00:17:58,045 The next big step towards today's K-pop was in the 1990s, 436 00:17:58,145 --> 00:18:00,614 when major music studios started putting performers together 437 00:18:00,714 --> 00:18:02,683 in boy and girl bands. 438 00:18:02,783 --> 00:18:04,751 That's right, Korea was doing that long before 439 00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:07,955 Simon Cowell's nips ever started poking through his T-shirts. 440 00:18:08,055 --> 00:18:09,923 That's a no from me, dawg. 441 00:18:10,023 --> 00:18:12,025 It's no surprise this new wave of K-pop 442 00:18:12,159 --> 00:18:14,995 blew up around the world. It featured complex melodies 443 00:18:15,162 --> 00:18:16,663 unlike any other pop music 444 00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:19,666 and always had next-level dance choreography. 445 00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:23,170 To this day, those remain the signature elements of K-pop. 446 00:18:23,236 --> 00:18:27,040 That, and being Asian. Very important requirement. 447 00:18:27,174 --> 00:18:29,910 Tt this new generation of K-pop stars became so successful 448 00:18:30,010 --> 00:18:32,613 the government started to take notice and soon 449 00:18:32,713 --> 00:18:35,349 launched a program to promote Korean music around the globe. 450 00:18:35,449 --> 00:18:38,185 They saw K-pop as a way to boost Korea's cultural strength 451 00:18:38,285 --> 00:18:41,288 and economy without having to do a Squid Game. 452 00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:43,523 But one of the biggest K-pop sensations 453 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:46,727 was a surprise no government could predict. 454 00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:49,896 I'm sorry. I know it took you ten years 455 00:18:49,997 --> 00:18:52,799 to get this out of your head, but we got to talk about it. 456 00:18:52,899 --> 00:18:54,501 "Gangnam Style" was the first video 457 00:18:54,601 --> 00:18:56,837 to break a billion views on YouTube. 458 00:18:56,937 --> 00:19:00,040 It was so popular, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon 459 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:02,142 praised the song, saying the arts was the path 460 00:19:02,209 --> 00:19:03,644 to cultural understanding. 461 00:19:03,744 --> 00:19:05,912 He said that about "Gangnam Style." 462 00:19:06,013 --> 00:19:07,881 That's like if they played "Baby Shark" during a war 463 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:09,750 and all the soldiers started laying down their weapons 464 00:19:09,850 --> 00:19:12,019 and hugging each other. 465 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:13,520 Since then, the rest of the world 466 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,455 is more into K-pop than ever before, 467 00:19:15,555 --> 00:19:18,558 from girl groups like Girls' Generation and Blackpink 468 00:19:18,659 --> 00:19:20,394 to artists like CL. 469 00:19:20,494 --> 00:19:22,729 But let's get to the group you've been waiting for, 470 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:25,499 the reason you all enrolled in this class in the first place, 471 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:27,768 BT-mother(bleep)ing-S. 472 00:19:27,868 --> 00:19:29,202 Three letters so important 473 00:19:29,303 --> 00:19:32,205 the rest of the alphabet doesn't even exist anymore. 474 00:19:32,306 --> 00:19:33,941 They've dominated the charts. 475 00:19:34,041 --> 00:19:36,209 They've generated billions in revenue. 476 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:38,011 They made it okay to eat butter again. 477 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:40,681 They even increased tourism to South Korea. 478 00:19:40,781 --> 00:19:42,749 I mean, I'm glad my fans aren't that devoted, 479 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:44,818 because then they'd have to travel to Australia, 480 00:19:44,918 --> 00:19:46,820 which, trust me, you don't want to do that. 481 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,890 BTS is without a doubt the biggest group in the world. 482 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:51,358 You can tell by their fans. 483 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:54,895 The BTS Army is the second largest military after the U.S. 484 00:19:54,995 --> 00:19:58,131 And they've droned zero weddings. 485 00:19:58,198 --> 00:19:59,633 BTS might be on hiatus, 486 00:19:59,733 --> 00:20:02,769 but there's so much new K-pop we can enjoy while they're gone. 487 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,439 And now you know how it got to where it is today. 488 00:20:05,539 --> 00:20:07,207 Oppa, Gangnam style! 489 00:20:07,307 --> 00:20:08,976 -("Gangnam Style" playing) -(clicks tongue) Aw, (bleep). 490 00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:10,344 Now it's in my head again. 491 00:20:10,444 --> 00:20:12,245 Get it out. 492 00:20:12,346 --> 00:20:14,581 Get it... out. 493 00:20:14,681 --> 00:20:16,249 ♪ ♪ 494 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:17,718 Thank you so much for that, Ronnie. 495 00:20:17,818 --> 00:20:19,486 All right, stay tuned, because when we come back, 496 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:22,589 we're gonna be chatting with one of the most popular philosophers 497 00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:24,691 of our time, William MacAskill, 498 00:20:24,791 --> 00:20:26,360 so don't go away. 499 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:28,495 (cheering and applause) 500 00:20:36,103 --> 00:20:38,138 (cheering) 501 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:42,643 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 502 00:20:42,743 --> 00:20:46,113 My guest tonight is a philosophy professor at Oxford 503 00:20:46,213 --> 00:20:49,216 and he's an entrepreneur who helped start 504 00:20:49,316 --> 00:20:50,717 the Effective Altruism Movement. 505 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:53,120 He's here to talk about that and his new book 506 00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:55,589 about improving the future of humanity called 507 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:57,991 What We owe The Future. 508 00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:00,460 Please welcome William MacAskill. 509 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,630 -♪ ♪ -(applause and cheering) 510 00:21:12,072 --> 00:21:13,974 William MacAskill, welcome to The Daily Show. 511 00:21:14,074 --> 00:21:16,209 Thanks so much for having me. I'm a huge fan. 512 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:19,279 It's interesting speaking to a philosopher, 513 00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:20,714 because when they say "philosopher," 514 00:21:20,814 --> 00:21:22,316 I remember thinking, "Oh, it's probably gonna be, like, 515 00:21:22,416 --> 00:21:25,719 "a 90-year-old man with, like, a stick, and he's, 516 00:21:25,819 --> 00:21:28,555 What is the meaning of life, and...?'" 517 00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:30,290 I can't even grow a beard. 518 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:32,192 I'm, like... I suck as a philosopher. 519 00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:34,895 Um, you-- you're not just young. 520 00:21:34,995 --> 00:21:36,496 You're very successful. 521 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:38,999 You know, you're a professor who deals with, I guess... 522 00:21:39,099 --> 00:21:40,934 Is... Are you dealing with some 523 00:21:41,034 --> 00:21:42,602 of the biggest moral issues in society? 524 00:21:42,703 --> 00:21:46,206 Help me understand what your field of expertise actually is. 525 00:21:46,273 --> 00:21:49,209 So I'm a little different from a normal moral philosopher 526 00:21:49,309 --> 00:21:51,878 'cause I'm a little less head-in-the-sky, clouds. 527 00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:53,547 I want to... Fundamentally, 528 00:21:53,647 --> 00:21:55,115 -I want to make the world a better place. -Okay. 529 00:21:55,215 --> 00:21:57,384 And so, I'm asking the question, 530 00:21:57,484 --> 00:21:59,286 "How can we do as much as possible 531 00:21:59,386 --> 00:22:00,654 to the make the world better?" 532 00:22:00,754 --> 00:22:02,456 That's what Effective Altruism is about. 533 00:22:02,556 --> 00:22:05,092 And so, the moral questions that I'm addressing are those 534 00:22:05,225 --> 00:22:06,626 that we need to figure out 535 00:22:06,727 --> 00:22:08,829 if we want to answer that question, where. 536 00:22:08,929 --> 00:22:10,731 There are just so many problems in the world. 537 00:22:10,831 --> 00:22:12,432 -Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm. -Extreme poverty, factory farming, 538 00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:14,001 chance of the next pandemic. 539 00:22:14,101 --> 00:22:15,836 How do we prioritize among them 540 00:22:15,936 --> 00:22:18,305 if we want to do as much good as we can? 541 00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:20,073 Is it even possible to do that? 542 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,541 You know, one of the first questions 543 00:22:21,642 --> 00:22:23,477 somebody may ask in response to you is, 544 00:22:23,577 --> 00:22:25,245 -"Are humans inherently good?" -Mm-hmm. 545 00:22:25,278 --> 00:22:27,581 What would you say to them if they asked that question? 546 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:31,151 I think in response to that, just, humans are very malleable. 547 00:22:31,251 --> 00:22:34,688 So people can be inspired to do amazing things, 548 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:36,223 -terrific things. -Mm-hmm. 549 00:22:36,323 --> 00:22:37,624 Again, I have seen this. 550 00:22:37,724 --> 00:22:39,559 Now thousands of people committing 551 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:41,862 to give at least ten percent of their income, 552 00:22:41,962 --> 00:22:45,065 often much more, to those causes that will do the most good. 553 00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:48,035 So, by promoting the idea of Effective Altruism, 554 00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:50,537 I've seen many people get inspired to do good. 555 00:22:50,637 --> 00:22:52,706 But you can also inspire people to do bad. 556 00:22:52,806 --> 00:22:54,808 -The history of the 20th century showed. -Right, right. 557 00:22:54,908 --> 00:22:57,644 The banality of evil, just how people could-- 558 00:22:57,744 --> 00:23:00,514 even good people-- could get swayed 559 00:23:00,614 --> 00:23:03,417 -by bad ideologies and produce horrific outcomes. -Right. 560 00:23:03,517 --> 00:23:05,719 So, let's talk a little bit about convincing people 561 00:23:05,819 --> 00:23:08,121 to give money to causes 562 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:11,558 that will benefit the planet or humans around them. 563 00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:14,227 In this book, you talk about the future 564 00:23:14,261 --> 00:23:16,997 in a really interesting way-- what we owe the future. 565 00:23:17,097 --> 00:23:18,765 Your argument-- and correct me if I'm wrong-- 566 00:23:18,865 --> 00:23:22,302 is basically that we have a moral obligation 567 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,271 to sort of "our future self." 568 00:23:24,371 --> 00:23:25,672 -Like, the future humans... -Right. 569 00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:27,641 the humans that will inhabit the planet because 570 00:23:27,741 --> 00:23:30,844 what we come into was created or shaped by someone, 571 00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:32,045 and somebody's going to come into that. 572 00:23:32,145 --> 00:23:33,714 And so, we have a moral obligation. 573 00:23:33,814 --> 00:23:36,316 Some people might say to you, "Oh, yeah, well, I'm here now, 574 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:38,685 "and, you know, nobody did anything for me, 575 00:23:38,785 --> 00:23:40,921 "so why should I care about what happens to somebody 576 00:23:41,021 --> 00:23:42,589 who's around when I'm not?" 577 00:23:42,689 --> 00:23:45,359 Yeah. Or you might ask, "What should we do for future people? 578 00:23:45,459 --> 00:23:47,194 What have they ever done for us?" -Right. Right. 579 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,029 And they haven't ever 'cause they're going to. 580 00:23:49,196 --> 00:23:50,864 "What are they going to ever have done for us?" 581 00:23:50,964 --> 00:23:53,000 Exactly, for sure. 582 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:54,267 Um, but I think the idea 583 00:23:54,368 --> 00:23:55,502 that we should care about future people 584 00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:57,304 is just utterly common sense. 585 00:23:57,404 --> 00:24:00,474 So, imagine you're walking, um, you're hiking on a trial 586 00:24:00,574 --> 00:24:02,943 and you drop some glass and it shatters, 587 00:24:03,043 --> 00:24:04,578 and you wonder, "Should I pick up the glass? 588 00:24:04,678 --> 00:24:06,079 -Should I clean up after myself?" -Mm-hmm. 589 00:24:06,213 --> 00:24:08,715 Maybe someone will walk along the trail and cut themselves, 590 00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:10,817 and you think, "Well, you know, obviously I should 591 00:24:10,917 --> 00:24:12,653 -because I don't want to harm someone." -Right. 592 00:24:12,753 --> 00:24:15,389 But now just imagine, do they cut themselves tomorrow 593 00:24:15,489 --> 00:24:18,625 or in a year's time or in a hundred years' time? 594 00:24:18,725 --> 00:24:21,128 Would that change the morality of the situation? 595 00:24:21,228 --> 00:24:22,596 I don't think so. 596 00:24:22,696 --> 00:24:25,032 Harm is harm, no matter when it occurs. 597 00:24:25,132 --> 00:24:28,101 And just as we should care about people 598 00:24:28,235 --> 00:24:29,469 whether they're in this country 599 00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:31,138 or on the other side of the planet, 600 00:24:31,238 --> 00:24:33,507 no matter where they are in space, 601 00:24:33,607 --> 00:24:34,775 we should care about people 602 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:36,843 no matter where they are in time as well. 603 00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:40,914 So how do-how do we begin to get people to agree with that? 604 00:24:41,014 --> 00:24:44,184 -Because, um, you're based in the U.K., right? -Yeah. 605 00:24:44,284 --> 00:24:47,254 And-and so if I-if I've read, you know, my research correctly, 606 00:24:47,354 --> 00:24:52,225 you donate, is it-is it... how many, 50% of your income? 607 00:24:52,326 --> 00:24:54,828 Uh, yes, um, a little more than that actually now, so yeah. 608 00:24:54,928 --> 00:24:58,265 So you-you donate more than 50% of your income 609 00:24:58,365 --> 00:24:59,566 to causes that you believe in. 610 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:01,201 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 611 00:25:01,301 --> 00:25:02,502 -Right. That's... -(cheering) 612 00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:04,104 That's amazing. 613 00:25:05,973 --> 00:25:07,908 And... 614 00:25:08,008 --> 00:25:11,778 And some people would say insane, right? 615 00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:13,981 And when I-when I heard that you did this, 616 00:25:14,081 --> 00:25:16,883 I remember thinking, oh, but is it easier to do it 617 00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:19,686 because you come from a place where your health care 618 00:25:19,786 --> 00:25:20,954 will be taken care of? 619 00:25:21,054 --> 00:25:22,289 Is it easier to do this because you feel like 620 00:25:22,389 --> 00:25:24,992 there's a social net or is it hard 621 00:25:25,092 --> 00:25:26,259 no matter where you're from? 622 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,461 Like, many Americans would say, 623 00:25:27,561 --> 00:25:28,795 "Well, I can't give away my money 624 00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:30,330 "because I don't know how much a hospital bill will be. 625 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:31,999 "I can't give away my money because I don't know 626 00:25:32,099 --> 00:25:33,834 what I'm going to need to pay for or not." 627 00:25:33,934 --> 00:25:36,403 How do you convince people that giving away 628 00:25:36,503 --> 00:25:38,872 what they would say is "hard-earned" 629 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:41,541 is actually better for them when it's for others? 630 00:25:41,642 --> 00:25:43,777 Yeah, I think there's a couple of things here. 631 00:25:43,877 --> 00:25:45,979 So, one is just, I acknowledge 632 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,315 I'm in this position of unbelievable privilege. 633 00:25:48,415 --> 00:25:51,618 -Mm-hmm. -I'm born into a rich country, I was well-educated, 634 00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:55,522 um, and that means, you know, 635 00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:57,891 I think I have, like, a responsibility to use, 636 00:25:57,991 --> 00:26:00,727 -you know, that privilege to do good in the world. -Okay. 637 00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:03,630 But the striking thing is that, even after my giving-- 638 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:05,866 so I try and give, you know, everything above, 639 00:26:05,966 --> 00:26:07,300 about $35,000... 640 00:26:07,401 --> 00:26:08,802 -Uh-huh. -...that still puts me 641 00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:11,772 in the richest three percent of the world's population. 642 00:26:11,872 --> 00:26:14,474 If you're earning $60,000 per year, 643 00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:15,809 you're in the richest one percent. 644 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:18,545 You are the one percent, globally speaking. 645 00:26:18,645 --> 00:26:22,616 And so, okay, I'm giving 50%, but I can hardly complain. 646 00:26:22,716 --> 00:26:24,951 -I'm still in the richest three percent. -Hmm. 647 00:26:25,052 --> 00:26:27,287 But the crucial thing, really, is, I thought 648 00:26:27,387 --> 00:26:28,455 this was gonna be a sacrifice, 649 00:26:28,555 --> 00:26:30,324 I thought it was gonna be hard but worth it 650 00:26:30,424 --> 00:26:33,026 because it was gonna benefit so many people, 651 00:26:33,126 --> 00:26:34,795 but it's actually not. 652 00:26:34,895 --> 00:26:38,732 I've actually found it an incredibly rewarding thing to do 653 00:26:38,832 --> 00:26:41,201 and I think my life is actually happier as a result, 654 00:26:41,301 --> 00:26:44,204 so it means, you know, I don't have a big house, 655 00:26:44,304 --> 00:26:45,639 -I don't have a fancy car. -Right. 656 00:26:45,739 --> 00:26:47,174 But I do have wonderful relationships, 657 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,675 I've got wonderful friends. 658 00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,577 I'm also part of this broader community, 659 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:52,346 effective altruism community, 660 00:26:52,446 --> 00:26:56,416 that is inspiring, hardworking people who are really focused 661 00:26:56,516 --> 00:26:57,851 on trying to make the world better, 662 00:26:57,951 --> 00:26:59,519 and-- I hope at least-- 663 00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:01,188 we're really making a positive difference, 664 00:27:01,288 --> 00:27:04,191 and that's just-- that's worth more than all the luxury goods 665 00:27:04,257 --> 00:27:06,293 -that money could buy. -Wow. 666 00:27:06,393 --> 00:27:08,428 -(applause) -It's a... 667 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,667 It's-it's-it's a, it's a mind-shift. 668 00:27:13,767 --> 00:27:15,869 I think it's a mind-shift that's extremely difficult to achieve, 669 00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:18,972 which is, you know, I guess why you do the work that you do. 670 00:27:19,072 --> 00:27:22,542 It's also interesting to see how many billionaires have signed on 671 00:27:22,643 --> 00:27:25,545 to your ideas, you know, everybody from, you know, 672 00:27:25,646 --> 00:27:27,447 Bill Gates to Elon Musk, 673 00:27:27,547 --> 00:27:29,616 who don't even agree with each other, by the way, 674 00:27:29,716 --> 00:27:30,851 and have both said, "Oh, yeah, 675 00:27:30,951 --> 00:27:32,819 "I-I really like what William is saying, 676 00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:35,756 "I really agree with this, I think we should be giving away 677 00:27:35,856 --> 00:27:38,058 vast amounts of our wealth," et cetera. 678 00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:40,861 But-but when I see this, I-I often think to myself, 679 00:27:40,961 --> 00:27:42,896 it's easy for us to say people should 680 00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:45,632 give away ten percent, 20% or whatever of their wealth. 681 00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:47,501 Say everyone should do this of their income. 682 00:27:47,601 --> 00:27:49,503 But when you get to a certain point, 683 00:27:49,603 --> 00:27:51,171 ten percent or 20% of your income 684 00:27:51,204 --> 00:27:52,906 doesn't affect your life, and if you're a billionaire 685 00:27:53,006 --> 00:27:55,509 and you give away ten percent, 20%, yes, it's a huge number, 686 00:27:55,609 --> 00:27:57,377 but it doesn't change this person's life. 687 00:27:57,477 --> 00:28:00,180 Whereas somebody who's working paycheck-to-paycheck 688 00:28:00,247 --> 00:28:02,716 notices when ten percent or 20% of their money is gone. 689 00:28:02,816 --> 00:28:04,651 So, shouldn't this be an obligation that is placed 690 00:28:04,751 --> 00:28:06,320 predominantly at the feet 691 00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,322 of those who are the most privileged? 692 00:28:08,422 --> 00:28:09,990 So, I think it's absolutely an obligation 693 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:13,293 on the most privileged. So, yeah, if you're a billionaire-- 694 00:28:13,393 --> 00:28:15,629 So, Bill Gates, you know, ushered in a new era 695 00:28:15,729 --> 00:28:18,031 -of billionaire philanthropy, saying 50%. -Right. 696 00:28:18,198 --> 00:28:20,701 Think the standard should be higher-- 99% or more. 697 00:28:20,801 --> 00:28:23,503 -And... -(laughing) 698 00:28:23,603 --> 00:28:25,639 (cheering, applause) 699 00:28:27,741 --> 00:28:29,776 And... 700 00:28:29,876 --> 00:28:31,878 Uh, so, yeah, I mean, people are laughing, 701 00:28:31,979 --> 00:28:34,681 but a-a decent chunk of my life is talking to billionaires 702 00:28:34,781 --> 00:28:36,383 and trying to get them-- convince them to 703 00:28:36,483 --> 00:28:37,551 -give almost all their money away. -What do you say? 704 00:28:37,651 --> 00:28:38,552 I want to know what you say, William. 705 00:28:38,652 --> 00:28:40,354 Help me understand this. 706 00:28:40,454 --> 00:28:43,156 -Help me understand. -So, I mean, uh, so, yeah. 707 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,524 'Cause billionaires are notorious for not 708 00:28:44,624 --> 00:28:47,060 -giving their money away. -I think that's gonna change. 709 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,628 -Um, at least-- -So what do you say? 710 00:28:48,729 --> 00:28:50,263 -What do you say to them? -Well, at least for some-- 711 00:28:50,364 --> 00:28:51,932 So, say two things. One, 712 00:28:52,032 --> 00:28:54,801 like you say, just, money just, above a certain threshold, 713 00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:57,404 -money just doesn't affect your well-being, come on. -Right. 714 00:28:57,504 --> 00:28:59,973 And then, secondly, money can be used 715 00:29:00,073 --> 00:29:01,408 to make a transformative difference. 716 00:29:01,508 --> 00:29:04,578 It costs $3,000 to save a life 717 00:29:04,678 --> 00:29:07,914 by protecting children in sub-Saharan Africa, uh, 718 00:29:08,015 --> 00:29:11,852 from malaria by distributing insecticides and bed nets. 719 00:29:11,952 --> 00:29:14,187 This is a very reliable, well-evidenced fact. 720 00:29:14,254 --> 00:29:15,622 -So, say that again. Three-- -$3,000-- 721 00:29:15,722 --> 00:29:17,824 -$3,000. And that's with insecticides, -Yeah. 722 00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:19,660 -the-the bed nettings. -Bed nets. 723 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,927 -To protect them from malaria. -To protect-- Exactly. 724 00:29:21,028 --> 00:29:22,396 Which is still one of the biggest, if not 725 00:29:22,496 --> 00:29:24,331 -the biggest killer-- Right. -So, thousands of children 726 00:29:24,431 --> 00:29:27,200 every day die, um, unnecessarily. 727 00:29:27,267 --> 00:29:28,502 -There are other risks, too. -Right. 728 00:29:28,602 --> 00:29:30,037 You know, pandemics are something we worry about, 729 00:29:30,203 --> 00:29:31,438 -nuclear war. -Mm-hmm. 730 00:29:31,538 --> 00:29:34,541 And, so, uh, yeah, the case is just like, 731 00:29:34,641 --> 00:29:36,677 "Look, it's gonna make almost no difference in your life. 732 00:29:36,777 --> 00:29:40,414 "It's gonna be enormously impactful for the world. 733 00:29:40,514 --> 00:29:42,549 -Right. -And, actually, we've seen success." 734 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:44,418 So, there are a number of people, um, 735 00:29:44,518 --> 00:29:46,486 in the kind of broader effective altruism movement-- 736 00:29:46,586 --> 00:29:48,655 Dustin Moskovitz, now San Bankman-Fried, 737 00:29:48,755 --> 00:29:51,058 who are planning to give 99% or more. 738 00:29:51,158 --> 00:29:53,360 And I think that can be the new standard. 739 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:56,063 Wow. When you-when you talk in the book, you know, 740 00:29:56,163 --> 00:29:57,864 there-there are parts that I-that I read 741 00:29:57,964 --> 00:30:01,335 where you interrogate the reader to ask questions about 742 00:30:01,435 --> 00:30:03,070 how they view the world and... 743 00:30:03,170 --> 00:30:05,539 and, I think, most importantly, 744 00:30:05,639 --> 00:30:07,074 how much they want to make a difference. 745 00:30:07,174 --> 00:30:08,675 So, for instance, you'll argue here, you say, 746 00:30:08,775 --> 00:30:10,677 "If you want to make an impact on climate change, you know, 747 00:30:10,777 --> 00:30:12,179 "there are things you can do. For instance, 748 00:30:12,212 --> 00:30:14,047 "you can become a vegetarian. You can say, 749 00:30:14,181 --> 00:30:16,416 "'Okay, I'm going to try and limit my carbon output,' 750 00:30:16,516 --> 00:30:18,652 "if you really care, you can say, 'I'm going to travel less, 751 00:30:18,752 --> 00:30:20,887 "'I'm gonna fly less or I'm gonna ride a bicycle more' 752 00:30:20,988 --> 00:30:23,457 or-or whatever-whatever it may be." 753 00:30:23,557 --> 00:30:25,826 You're talking to people and you're talking to individuals. 754 00:30:25,926 --> 00:30:28,495 Do you feel that the message is as well-received 755 00:30:28,595 --> 00:30:32,032 by corporations that have, like, an outsized output? 756 00:30:32,199 --> 00:30:35,669 Because every one person can try to do one thing, 757 00:30:35,769 --> 00:30:37,904 but, like, most of the smoke that's coming out 758 00:30:38,005 --> 00:30:40,507 and, you know, most of the out-- you know, the carbon output is-- 759 00:30:40,607 --> 00:30:42,175 it's coming from concentrated places. 760 00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:45,045 Yes, I'm not saying individuals don't make a big contribution, 761 00:30:45,145 --> 00:30:48,215 -but do you find any of those big sources... -Yeah. 762 00:30:48,315 --> 00:30:49,750 ...are-are receptive to this? 763 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:52,853 Or is-- or is the money too big and the-the face too obscure? 764 00:30:52,953 --> 00:30:55,589 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've been kind of disappointed 765 00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:57,624 at attempts to move companies 766 00:30:57,724 --> 00:30:59,660 -in a more philanthropic direction. -Mm-hmm. 767 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,429 Because cor-corporate philanthropy 768 00:31:02,529 --> 00:31:05,932 99% of the time is a PR mechanism. 769 00:31:06,033 --> 00:31:08,468 -Okay. -And so some of the, 770 00:31:08,568 --> 00:31:10,904 um, misconceptions that people have 771 00:31:11,004 --> 00:31:13,006 about how best to fight climate change 772 00:31:13,106 --> 00:31:14,908 you can actually see being promoted 773 00:31:15,008 --> 00:31:16,777 by fossil fuel companies. 774 00:31:16,877 --> 00:31:20,213 So Shell is very keen on the idea that, um, 775 00:31:20,314 --> 00:31:21,882 what we should be doing 776 00:31:21,982 --> 00:31:25,419 -is reducing our carbon footprint personally. -Yes. 777 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,187 Whereas what we should be trying to do is 778 00:31:27,287 --> 00:31:29,756 put the fossil fuel companies out of business. 779 00:31:29,856 --> 00:31:31,358 -(cheering and applause) -(chuckles) 780 00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:34,461 -Well, I see why you haven't broken through. -(laughing) 781 00:31:38,999 --> 00:31:41,702 And we as individuals can help do that. 782 00:31:41,802 --> 00:31:43,236 -Mm-hmm. -So, look, 783 00:31:43,337 --> 00:31:45,772 -if you try and reduce your own carbon footprint... -Okay. 784 00:31:45,872 --> 00:31:48,308 In the U.S., uh, American, um, 785 00:31:48,408 --> 00:31:51,244 will emit about 15 tons of carbon dioxide. 786 00:31:51,345 --> 00:31:53,480 Um, go be a hero, 787 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:56,550 do everything you can, maybe you can get that to zero. 788 00:31:56,650 --> 00:31:59,019 You can do as much good as if, you know, you'd never been born. 789 00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,588 -Okay. -That's the kind of standard. 790 00:32:01,688 --> 00:32:03,790 Um... 791 00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:05,559 But we can do so much more than that. 792 00:32:05,659 --> 00:32:06,960 Donate 10% of your income-- 793 00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:08,762 -let's say that's $3,000... -Uh-huh. 794 00:32:08,862 --> 00:32:10,964 ...for the very most targeted organizations 795 00:32:11,064 --> 00:32:12,566 funding clean technology, 796 00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:14,735 the sort of thing that means we no longer need to rely 797 00:32:14,835 --> 00:32:16,036 -on fossil fuels. -Okay. 798 00:32:16,136 --> 00:32:19,106 Then you would red-- then you would reduce 799 00:32:19,239 --> 00:32:21,875 the amount of carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere 800 00:32:21,975 --> 00:32:25,612 by something that's more like 3,000 tons per year. 801 00:32:25,712 --> 00:32:28,015 -Oh, wow. -So you'd be doing 200 times as much good 802 00:32:28,115 --> 00:32:29,616 with very targeted donations 803 00:32:29,716 --> 00:32:31,385 to the most effective nonprofits, 804 00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:34,354 even compared to your-- this, you know, heroic effort 805 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:35,622 -to get your carbon footprint down to zero. -Right, right. 806 00:32:35,722 --> 00:32:37,824 So just $3,000-- It's like you have a choice-- 807 00:32:37,924 --> 00:32:40,827 $3,000 or just never be born. 808 00:32:40,927 --> 00:32:42,029 -Yeah. -(laughter) 809 00:32:42,195 --> 00:32:43,530 $3,000 sounds cheap. 810 00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:44,798 I think that sounds like a cheap plan. 811 00:32:44,898 --> 00:32:46,199 -I think it's pretty good. -Thank you so much 812 00:32:46,299 --> 00:32:47,601 -for joining me on the show. -Thank you so much. 813 00:32:47,701 --> 00:32:49,336 I wish I could encompass everything in the book, 814 00:32:49,436 --> 00:32:50,704 -but that's why you wrote the book. -Thank you. 815 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:51,972 I hope to see you again. 816 00:32:52,072 --> 00:32:54,207 Uh, William MacAskill, everybody. 817 00:32:54,274 --> 00:32:56,043 What We Owe the Future is available now. 818 00:32:56,209 --> 00:32:57,711 We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back 819 00:32:57,811 --> 00:32:59,880 -after this. Thank you very much. -Thank you so much. 820 00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:02,015 -Yeah, it's really... -(cheering and applause) 821 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:08,421 (cheering and applause) 822 00:33:08,521 --> 00:33:09,689 Well, that's our show for tonight. 823 00:33:09,789 --> 00:33:11,591 But before we go, before we go, 824 00:33:11,691 --> 00:33:15,461 please consider supporting World Central Kitchen. 825 00:33:15,562 --> 00:33:18,398 They're on the front lines and they're traveling the world 826 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:21,134 to provide meals to people who are hit by humanitarian, 827 00:33:21,234 --> 00:33:22,735 climate, and community crises. 828 00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:24,404 So if you want to support their work, 829 00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:25,905 then please donate at the link below. 830 00:33:26,005 --> 00:33:27,941 Until next time, stay safe out there. 831 00:33:28,041 --> 00:33:29,208 And remember-- 832 00:33:29,309 --> 00:33:31,711 we've just started a war with asteroids, so... 833 00:33:31,811 --> 00:33:33,713 live every day like it's your last. 834 00:33:33,813 --> 00:33:35,848 Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 835 00:33:35,949 --> 00:33:37,150 (cheering and applause) 836 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,285 ♪ ♪ 837 00:33:40,987 --> 00:33:44,224 Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and California 838 00:33:44,324 --> 00:33:46,726 may be the literal border states, 839 00:33:46,826 --> 00:33:49,729 but Joe Biden has brought the crisis of the border 840 00:33:49,829 --> 00:33:51,197 to all 50 states. 841 00:33:51,297 --> 00:33:52,532 Virginia's a border state. 842 00:33:52,632 --> 00:33:54,467 Now D.C. is a border state. 843 00:33:54,567 --> 00:33:57,136 New York and Chicago or-or Nebraska. 844 00:33:57,237 --> 00:33:58,938 Florida is a border state. 845 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:02,141 Colorado is very much a border state. 846 00:34:02,242 --> 00:34:04,410 Kansas is now a border state. 847 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,879 Pennsylvania has suddenly become a border state. 848 00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:08,815 The middle of the country, it's a border state. 849 00:34:08,915 --> 00:34:10,283 That includes Idaho. 850 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:11,784 -Montana's not a border state. -No. 851 00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:13,186 West Virginia's not a border state. 852 00:34:13,286 --> 00:34:14,787 New Hampshire's not a border state. 853 00:34:14,888 --> 00:34:16,189 They're all border states now. 854 00:34:16,289 --> 00:34:18,725 Every state is a border state.