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ANNOUNCER: Coming
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America, it's The Daily Show.
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Tonight, Herschel Walker
does show and tell,
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the history of reggaeton,
and Chelsea Manning.
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This is The Daily
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What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to The Daily Show.
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I'm Trevor Noah.
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We've got a great
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Take a seat, everybody.
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Elon Musk is putting
Ukraine on his family plan.
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Dulcé Sloan is going
full on reggaeton.
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And Herschel Walker
joins the Paw Patrol.
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Plus, Iraqi war
whistleblower Chelsea
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Manning is our guest tonight.
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So let's do this, people.
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Let's jump straight
into today's headlines.
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All right, everybody.
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Before we get into
the big stories,
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let's catch up on a few other
things going on in the world,
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starting with some health news.
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The FDA has announced that
there is a nationwide shortage
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of Adderall.
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[laughter]
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So if you don't have a
genuine need for it, please,
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save it for anyone who has
a legitimate prescription.
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And if you do have
a prescription, now
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is the time to sell
it at school, kids.
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Cash in, and make that money.
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In international news, the
superstar K-pop band BTS
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has announced that
its members will soon
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begin reporting for
mandatory service
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in the South Korean military.
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Yeah, which is great
news for South Korea.
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Because their army is
basically unstoppable now.
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There's no army in the
world that is going
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to take a shot at these guys.
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Are you kidding me?
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Who's going to be stupid
enough to take a shot?
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Everyone's a fan.
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Enemy soldiers are
going to be like,
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oh, I just got stabbed by Jin.
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This is the last
best day of my life.
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Oh, in tech news, Kanye
West announced today
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that he is going to buy
the right-wing social media
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platform Parler
because, quote, he
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wants to make sure
we have the right
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to freely express ourselves.
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And thank God because I've
been waiting to hear Kanye's
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unfiltered thoughts on things.
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You just never
get to hear that.
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You guys ever hear of
anything he has to say?
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So shy.
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So shy.
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All right, let's move on to
some of the bigger stories
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of the day, starting, as we so
often do, with Donald Trump.
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And I know.
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I know.
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I know when Trump
is in the news,
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it's usually because he was
caught doing more crimes.
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But this time, it's
also because of that.
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The man loves to crime.
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What can I say?
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So let's find out
about his latest
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one in our ongoing
segment, America's
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Most Tremendously Wanted.
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[music playing]
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You may remember that after
he left the White House,
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Trump created his own social
media app called Truth
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Social, which is
basically just Twitter,
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but for white supremacists.
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And before you say, wait,
aren't the white supremacists
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already on Twitter?
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Yes, but on Truth
Social, they're verified.
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Now, believe it or not--
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believe it or not,
there might also be
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a dark side to Truth Social.
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A whistleblower is now
accusing former President
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Trump's social media
company of violating
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federal securities laws.
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Will Wilkerson is a former
executive at Trump Media
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and Technology
Group, which launched
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the Truth Social platform.
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He tells The Washington Post
that Trump's company tried
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to raise capital by making
fraudulent misrepresentations
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about its finances.
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The SEC is now investigating.
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REPORTER: The cofounder
told The Washington Post,
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the former President asked
one executive to relinquish
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his shares in the company
to former First Lady Melania
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Trump, and had him
removed from the board
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of directors when he refused.
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What?
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Donald Trump's
social media platform
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was reportedly engaged in
shady financial gimmicks?
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[gasps] How?
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It's called Truth Social.
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I don't know what
to believe anymore.
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You know, one of the most
interesting allegations
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is that he tried to bully
one of his board members
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into giving his
shares to Melania,
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which is just so romantic.
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Yeah, ladies, find you
a man who will commit
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securities fraud for you.
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Are you kidding?
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You have to admit, though,
shares in Truth Social
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are a weird gift, you know?
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It almost sounds like
Trump didn't remember
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until the last minute.
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He was just like,
(IMITATING TRUMP) of course,
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I remembered your
birthday, Melania.
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I got you-- I--
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I got Truth Social shares.
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Surprise.
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Surprise.
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Totally love it.
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Totally love it.
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And also the tie I'm wearing.
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The funny thing is Truth Social
is such a failure of a company
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that she probably doesn't
even want the shares.
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It's almost like when your
kids give you that gift,
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but it's just, like, a
piece of macaroni art
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for your birthday.
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You know, she was probably just
like, (IMITATING MELANIA) oh,
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so cute.
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You think this is
worth something.
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Thank you, Donald.
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[laughter]
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Now, just to be clear--
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just to be clear,
though, I am totally
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on Trump's side in the story.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's the year 2022.
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If you go into business
with Donald Trump,
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and you are surprised that you
got scammed, that's on you.
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What were you thinking?
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Well, I know the last guy
that Trump worked with almost
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got hanged by an angry mob.
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But I think I'm going
to turn out fine.
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I don't know what
could go wrong.
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I don't know what
could go wrong.
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[applause]
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But let's move on
from Donald Trump
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to this year's hot new mini
Trump, Herschel Walker,
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Georgia Senate candidate and
closed captioning's
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worst nightmare.
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There are a lot of
controversies swirling
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around Walker-- his
attack on absentee parents
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despite being one, his
opposition to abortion
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despite allegedly paying
for one, his attempt
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to become a Senator
despite not knowing
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how many states America has.
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And in his first debate
over the weekend,
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Walker tried to clear
up one controversy
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with a little prop comedy.
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REPORTER: At a
debate Friday night,
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Herschel Walker
responded to accusations
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that he has pretended
to be a police
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officer by flashing what
appeared to be a fake badge.
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MODERATOR: Gentlemen--
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I have to respond to that.
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And you know what's so funny?
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I am-- work with
many police officers.
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REPORTER: In a new interview,
the former football
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star says the badge is real.
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He says he got it
from the Sheriff
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of Johnson County, Georgia.
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Walker clarified, It's
an honorary badge.
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The National
Sheriffs Association
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said, an honorary badge, quote,
"is for the trophy case."
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Why make the decision to
flash it at the debate?
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That is totally not true.
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You know, I don't know
what's crazier in this story,
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the fact that this man
lied about being in law
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enforcement or the
fact that he pulled out
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a fake badge during a debate--
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during a debate.
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Or the fact that
after, the Sheriffs
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Association said that his
badge is just an honorary one.
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He said, no, they're wrong.
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They're totally wrong.
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It's like-- it almost makes
me wonder, how many people
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has Herschel Walker arrested?
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Huh?
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Is there someone locked
up in his basement
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right now who's just like,
is this a real prison?
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There's a foosball
table in here!
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He's like, it's an
honorary prison.
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[laughter]
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Does he treat every
symbolic object like this?
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Like, people say I'm
an absentee father,
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but if that were true, why
would I have this world's best
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dad mug, huh?
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Not OK dad, not a good
dad, world's best dad.
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That's official.
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In fact, I have seven of
these mugs to prove it,
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and some I haven't
even received yet.
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You know the saddest
part of the story
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is that there are people
who are going to believe
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that Herschel Walker
was in law enforcement
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because he pulled
out this badge.
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This is something I've
learned in America.
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People see it--
they believe it.
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It's the same way there were
people who believed that Trump
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actually did step
away from his company
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just because he posed next
to a stack of empty folders.
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Yeah, and you're
like, he's lying.
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People are like, why
would he be lying?
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He's standing next
to empty folders.
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Would he stand next to
them if it wasn't true?
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Are you next to empty folders?
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No, you're not.
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But it's honorary.
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Like, Taylor Swift,
for instance,
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got an honorary doctorate
from NYU this year.
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But you don't see her in the
operating room like, well,
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killed another one, huh?
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All right, let's get
lunch and try again later.
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Guess maybe I'll try brains
next time instead of hearts.
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[laughs]
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[applause]
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I will say, the one upside
of this whole story,
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though, is there
is some good news.
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Because this means that
Georgia voters don't even
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need to elect Herschel
Walker Senator.
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They can just give him
a certificate that says,
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honorary Senator.
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He won't know the difference.
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[cheering]
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He won't know.
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Let's move on to some
criminal justice news.
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Right now a right-wing
militia member
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named Paul Bellar is on
trial for hatching a plot
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back in 2020 to kidnap the
governor of Michigan, which
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means, every day, the jurors
have to look at a man accused
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of an evil, heinous crime.
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Just imagine that, every
day, staring into those eyes.
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Are you turned on?
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[laughter]
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No, because apparently
someone was.
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REPORTER: Well, a juror has
been dismissed from the trial
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of three men in connection
with the 2020 plot
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to kidnap Michigan
Governor Gretchen Whitmer.
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She was dismissed
by the judge on Friday
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after attorneys
accused her of flirting
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with one of the defendants.
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Now, the flirtatious
behavior was described
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as nonverbal communication
in the form of eye contact
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and smiles between the juror
and defendant, Paul Bellar.
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While the prosecutor originally
pointed out the conduct,
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several others, including
Bellar's attorney,
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stated that they had seen
interactions between the two.
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The judge dismissed
the juror out
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of an abundance of caution.
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God damn!
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First of all, congrats to this
woman for finding a new way
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to get out of jury duty.
Huh?
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[laughter]
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Truly an inspiration
for us all.
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[applause]
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But I have to say--
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I have to say, I'm
kind of sad that they
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kicked her off the case.
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Think of how great
it would have been
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when they read the verdict.
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We the jury sentence the
defendant to life with me.
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[laughter]
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I guess the real lesson here
is that bad boys stay winning.
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This guy is literally
on trial for trying
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to kidnap the governor, huh,
and he's still getting love.
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It's always like this.
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Every famous criminal
has all these groupies
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who are like, (FLIRTY) is
there a Mrs. Serial Killer?
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Oh-- oh, there was,
but you chopped
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her into little pieces?
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So you're single now.
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[laughter]
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But I would like to
know how this happened.
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How did this happen?
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Because when you report
for jury duty in America,
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they make you watch a video
that expressly tells you what
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you should and shouldn't do.
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[music playing]
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Please, remember,
while performing
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this sacred civic duty,
it is important to avoid
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doing the following things--
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reading about the
case in the news,
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going like this
to the defendant,
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going like this to the
defendant, going like this
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to the defendant.
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Thank you for your
service, and, please,
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don't try to smash.
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Everyone watches that video.
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How did that happen?
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All right, finally--
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[applause]
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Let's talk about the
latest news in Russia's war
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with Ukraine.
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If you've been
following the war,
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you know that
almost everybody has
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been helping Ukraine
fight off the world's
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worst Botox customer.
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America is sending weapons.
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The EU is sending
financial assistance.
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England is sending Prince
Andrew-- not to help,
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they just want to
get rid of him.
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But it may surprise you to know
who has been giving Ukraine
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their internet service
and how close it
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recently came to going away.
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Elon Musk reversing
course, the billionaire now
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says his SpaceX company will
continue to fund Ukraine's
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critical satellite service.
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SpaceX's Starlink
internet service
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has been a vital
source of communication
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for the Ukrainian military
during its war with Russia.
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The reversal coming
after exclusive CNN
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reporting that SpaceX sent
a letter to the Pentagon,
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warning that it may
stop funding the service
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unless the US military kicks
in tens of millions of dollars
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each month.
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Musk tweeting this weekend,
"The hell with it."
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Even though Starlink
is still losing money,
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and other companies are getting
billions of taxpayer money,
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we'll just keep funding the
Ukraine government for free."
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You know, Elon Musk
is the only person
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who can do a good thing, but
in the bitchiest way possible.
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You know, he's just
like, guess I'll just
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keep helping Ukraine for free.
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Like, look, I'm not going
to even try to tell Elon
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Musk how to use his money.
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But I will tell you this, Elon.
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This is not how you get
remembered as an inspiring
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figure in history.
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All right?
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You're doing a good
thing, but then
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you're saying it like that.
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Can you imagine
if Martin Luther
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King, Jr. had
this attitude when
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he was trying to do his good?
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(IMITATING MLK) I
have a dream, I guess.
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Because I don't see nobody
else having a dream,
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so I guess it's all me.
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I got to sleep 20 hours
a day because these bitch
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asses don't want to come up
with dreams on their own.
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People be like, Martin,
you want to go to the club?
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But I can't.
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I got to go home to sleep
because I got to have a dream.
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That's some bullshit, but I
guess I got to do it anyway.
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It wouldn't be the same.
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[cheering]
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Can I tell you what I
think happened here?
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What I think happened
here is Elon Musk
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saw an opportunity
to be the good guy
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and make a lot of money--
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give the Ukrainians internet,
but then, over time,
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have the American government
step in and pick up the tab.
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Yeah.
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But because they said
no, now he's stuck.
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He is.
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Keep losing money or
be the asshole who
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cut off Ukraine's internet.
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And I know some people
think Elon is evil,
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but he's not cable
company evil.
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Come on.
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And I actually get
Elon's frustration
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because think about it.
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Think about it.
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Weapons manufacturers are
donating missiles to Ukraine.
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The US government
is paying them.
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So Elon is going, well,
why shouldn't I get paid?
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And, also, like
everyone else, I'm
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sure Elon didn't expect the
war to go on for this long.
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You know, it's sort of
like when you hold the door
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open for someone, right?
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But then other people keep
walking through the door.
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So you're holding the
door for 20 minutes.
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And, finally, you let
go, and then it slams
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some old lady in the face.
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She's like, ah,
you broke my nose!
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And then your boss runs up.
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He's like, you're fired!
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And you're like, I
don't even work here.
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He's like, not with that
attitude, you don't!
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And now you're an
asshole, and you're
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unemployed just because
you were trying to be nice.
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All right, that's it
for the headlines.
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00:15:04,371 --> 00:15:05,472
But before we go
to a quick break,
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let's check in on
the stock market
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with our finance expert,
Michael Kosta, everybody!
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[cheering]
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Good to see you, Michael.
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00:15:16,049 --> 00:15:18,652
Monday markets, what is
happening in the market today?
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00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:19,786
I'm crushing it.
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00:15:19,887 --> 00:15:23,257
I mean, I am crushing
it like a 19-year-old
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00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:25,425
me used to crush
Adderall pills,
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00:15:25,526 --> 00:15:27,594
getting ready for the big
party I wasn't invited to.
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00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:28,595
About right?
413
00:15:28,695 --> 00:15:30,130
So I also got a
hot tip for you.
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00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:31,131
TREVOR NOAH: OK.
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00:15:31,231 --> 00:15:32,332
Got a hot tip.
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00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:34,468
Now the big financial news
today is that Albertsons
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has been acquired by Kroger.
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And if this deal
goes through, it
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will become the second biggest
grocery chain in America right
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after Walmart, OK?
421
00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:43,076
But before we get
to that, I want
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00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:46,313
to talk to you about that
flirting juror in Michigan.
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00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:47,314
Yeah, yeah.
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00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:48,348
Everyone says she's flirt--
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00:15:48,448 --> 00:15:49,950
I mean, that's not flirting.
426
00:15:50,083 --> 00:15:51,752
You know, she's
just being nice.
427
00:15:51,852 --> 00:15:53,353
People-- people
in New York think
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someone's flirting just
because they haven't pushed
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00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:57,224
you down the stairs, OK?
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00:15:57,324 --> 00:15:59,092
She's just being Midwest nice.
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00:15:59,126 --> 00:16:01,161
I'm from Michigan, OK?
432
00:16:01,261 --> 00:16:04,698
I know about eye
[bleep],, all right?
433
00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:09,469
Was she doing this, you know?
434
00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:11,772
TREVOR NOAH: What are
you-- what are you--
435
00:16:11,872 --> 00:16:12,906
what are you--
what are you doing?
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00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,043
You see how good I
am at eye [bleep],, OK?
437
00:16:16,109 --> 00:16:21,114
Kosta gets the girls' eyes
wet, all right, which--
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00:16:21,215 --> 00:16:25,085
which, technically,
is crying, but it's
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00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:29,156
a very-- it's a moist eye.
440
00:16:29,256 --> 00:16:31,058
Look, Kroger--
let's get to Kroger.
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00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:32,259
TREVOR NOAH: Yes,
let's go to Kroger.
442
00:16:32,359 --> 00:16:35,963
Kroger bought Albertsons
for 24.6 billion, all right?
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00:16:36,063 --> 00:16:38,365
Now that's before you factor
any coupons they may have had.
444
00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:42,536
But, look, this big jump right
here, this is not when Kroger
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00:16:42,636 --> 00:16:44,238
actually acquired Albertsons.
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00:16:44,338 --> 00:16:46,807
In my expert opinion,
this is when Albertsons
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00:16:46,907 --> 00:16:49,176
implemented self checkout, OK?
448
00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:51,311
Now this saved them
a lot of labor costs,
449
00:16:51,411 --> 00:16:52,679
and that's why
the value shot up.
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00:16:52,779 --> 00:16:55,349
But what all grocery
stores don't realize
451
00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,684
is that self checkout,
it's really just inviting
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00:16:57,784 --> 00:16:59,653
us to steal, isn't it?
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00:16:59,753 --> 00:17:02,022
You know, and it takes people
some time to figure that out.
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But when they do,
woosh, it hurts profits.
455
00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:06,627
And that's what you
start to see right here.
456
00:17:06,727 --> 00:17:09,596
I mean, self checkout, I got
to know what type of mushroom
457
00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:10,731
this is now?
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00:17:10,831 --> 00:17:11,732
I don't know.
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00:17:11,832 --> 00:17:12,733
How about I just steal it?
460
00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:13,901
OK?
461
00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,203
Trevor, I had a
bushel of carrots, OK?
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00:17:16,303 --> 00:17:18,038
And it's not coming up,
and it's not coming up.
463
00:17:18,138 --> 00:17:19,573
And then it's like,
what's the produce number?
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00:17:19,673 --> 00:17:20,774
I don't know the
produce number.
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00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:22,409
So now I'm spelling
it out on the keypad.
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00:17:22,509 --> 00:17:26,580
Carrots-- K-A-R-R-O-T-S, and
it's still not coming up.
467
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,516
It's just easier
if I steal it, OK?
468
00:17:29,616 --> 00:17:31,151
I used to work at
a grocery store.
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00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:32,553
I-- I did.
470
00:17:32,653 --> 00:17:34,955
I was in charge of stocking the
orange juice, but I got fired.
471
00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:36,657
I-- I couldn't concentrate.
472
00:17:36,757 --> 00:17:37,658
Well--
473
00:17:37,758 --> 00:17:39,126
[laughter]
- Oh, really?
474
00:17:39,226 --> 00:17:40,327
Thank you.
475
00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:43,897
But, actually, I threw a
cantaloupe at an old lady.
476
00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:45,065
I thought she was stealing.
477
00:17:45,132 --> 00:17:47,067
So-- but, look, look,
look-- everybody, look.
478
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,870
This supermarket
merger, it's great news.
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00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:51,772
Everyone's worried about
the price of groceries,
480
00:17:51,872 --> 00:17:53,941
but now there's going
to be less competition,
481
00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:56,777
and a giant corporation will
have more power than ever
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00:17:56,877 --> 00:17:58,378
to decide the price of food.
483
00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:02,015
And I'm sure they're going
to do the right thing.
484
00:18:02,082 --> 00:18:03,684
Speaking of doing
the right thing, Musk
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00:18:03,784 --> 00:18:05,819
with the internet
in Ukraine, I love
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00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:07,654
that he's helping Ukraine.
This is so cool.
487
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:08,655
Everyone's helping out.
488
00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:10,257
The US is sending weapons.
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00:18:10,357 --> 00:18:12,025
Europe is sending money.
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00:18:12,059 --> 00:18:14,161
Trevor, I assume
Africa is sending some
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00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:15,696
of your child soldiers or--
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00:18:15,796 --> 00:18:16,697
[laughs]
493
00:18:16,797 --> 00:18:17,698
[crowd groaning]
494
00:18:17,798 --> 00:18:19,566
Oh, stop.
Stop.
495
00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:20,601
I can make that joke.
496
00:18:20,701 --> 00:18:22,603
I have an honorary
African badge.
497
00:18:22,703 --> 00:18:26,340
[laughter]
498
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,774
All right?
499
00:18:27,875 --> 00:18:29,710
Yeah.
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00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:30,711
TREVOR NOAH: Seriously, Kosta?
501
00:18:30,811 --> 00:18:31,745
Yeah.
502
00:18:31,845 --> 00:18:33,046
TREVOR NOAH: That's
not even what
503
00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:34,414
the African badge looks like.
Just do the markets now.
504
00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:36,049
OK, look, I got a hot tip.
I got a hot tip.
505
00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:37,384
Here's my hot tip.
506
00:18:37,484 --> 00:18:40,053
If you work at a grocery store,
and you throw a cantaloupe
507
00:18:40,153 --> 00:18:43,156
at an old lady, you
have to be 100% certain
508
00:18:43,257 --> 00:18:44,625
that she was
stealing, all right?
509
00:18:44,725 --> 00:18:47,561
Now back to you, Trevor,
my fellow African.
510
00:18:47,661 --> 00:18:48,662
Michael Kosta, everybody.
511
00:18:48,762 --> 00:18:50,264
[cheering]
512
00:18:50,364 --> 00:18:51,398
That is not an official badge.
513
00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:52,499
Do not use that in the street.
514
00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,434
All right, when we come
back, Dulcé Sloan is
515
00:18:54,535 --> 00:18:55,435
going to take us to the club.
516
00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:56,436
So don't go away.
517
00:18:56,537 --> 00:19:00,140
[cheering]
518
00:19:06,451 --> 00:19:12,891
[cheering]
519
00:19:14,192 --> 00:19:15,660
Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
520
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,131
You know, every now and
then, we ask Dulcé Sloan
521
00:19:20,232 --> 00:19:21,800
to report on the latest news.
522
00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:23,768
But Dulcé just
talks about what she
523
00:19:23,869 --> 00:19:27,038
wants to talk about in
another episode of Dul-sayin'.
524
00:19:27,138 --> 00:19:33,378
[music playing]
525
00:19:33,478 --> 00:19:34,713
Hello, friends.
526
00:19:34,813 --> 00:19:37,015
Hispanic Heritage
Month just wrapped up.
527
00:19:37,115 --> 00:19:39,918
But before we go, I want
to talk about reggaeton.
528
00:19:40,018 --> 00:19:41,386
And if you don't
know what it is,
529
00:19:41,486 --> 00:19:44,356
you've probably heard the
unmistakable beat of reggaeton
530
00:19:44,456 --> 00:19:46,258
before, especially if you
have upstairs neighbors.
531
00:19:46,358 --> 00:19:47,259
[banging]
532
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,793
MAN: Can you keep
it down up there?
533
00:19:48,894 --> 00:19:50,362
I will not!
534
00:19:50,462 --> 00:19:51,663
Like this song.
535
00:19:51,763 --> 00:19:54,232
The roots of this music
go back as far as the '70s
536
00:19:54,332 --> 00:19:55,800
and as far south as Panama.
537
00:19:55,901 --> 00:19:57,269
It could have started
further south,
538
00:19:57,369 --> 00:20:00,038
but the beats are so big-- they
don't fit through the canal.
539
00:20:00,138 --> 00:20:02,908
It was here in the 1980s when
music artists started putting
540
00:20:03,008 --> 00:20:05,844
Spanish lyrics over
Jamaican dancehall songs,
541
00:20:05,944 --> 00:20:08,346
creating a new sound
of reggae in español.
542
00:20:08,446 --> 00:20:10,348
And, honestly, I'm
glad I wasn't there.
543
00:20:10,448 --> 00:20:13,318
Because watching Spanish
words and dancehall music
544
00:20:13,418 --> 00:20:14,953
coming together
for the first time,
545
00:20:15,053 --> 00:20:16,588
that'd been too sexy to handle.
546
00:20:16,688 --> 00:20:19,624
There's no way you didn't leave
that dance floor too pregnant.
547
00:20:19,724 --> 00:20:21,426
It's like being the
jelly in a Diego
548
00:20:21,526 --> 00:20:23,328
Luna and Bad Bunny sandwich.
549
00:20:23,428 --> 00:20:25,130
Ooh, delicious.
550
00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:27,265
Two of reggaeton's
earliest pioneers
551
00:20:27,365 --> 00:20:30,168
were Leonardo Renato
Aulder and Edgardo Franco.
552
00:20:30,268 --> 00:20:32,437
Franco would later be
known as El General
553
00:20:32,537 --> 00:20:33,939
and even looked
like if the Fresh
554
00:20:34,072 --> 00:20:36,441
Prince got sent to military
school instead of Bel Air.
555
00:20:36,541 --> 00:20:39,077
These two and other artists
grew their new sounds
556
00:20:39,144 --> 00:20:42,113
by giving tapes to bus drivers,
who would bump their music.
557
00:20:42,214 --> 00:20:43,915
It's basically the
way rappers in Atlanta
558
00:20:44,082 --> 00:20:45,851
give their singles
to strip club DJs.
559
00:20:45,951 --> 00:20:48,119
Except in this case, you hope
people jam out to your music
560
00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:49,354
while running late for work.
561
00:20:49,454 --> 00:20:51,690
In 1985, El General
moved to New
562
00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:53,425
York City, where
he began spreading
563
00:20:53,525 --> 00:20:55,193
early reggaeton in the clubs.
564
00:20:55,293 --> 00:20:56,495
It almost didn't
happen, though,
565
00:20:56,595 --> 00:20:58,096
because while he
was in New York,
566
00:20:58,129 --> 00:20:59,798
El General also
pursued a degree
567
00:20:59,898 --> 00:21:03,468
in business administration in
an effort to get a real job.
568
00:21:03,568 --> 00:21:06,671
You have to wonder, what if
that path had worked out?
569
00:21:06,771 --> 00:21:08,740
He'd been in an office
going, Ernst and Young,
570
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,208
this is El General speaking.
571
00:21:10,308 --> 00:21:11,710
How may I direct your call?
572
00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:14,679
Thankfully, he was sucked
back into music, hosting
573
00:21:14,779 --> 00:21:15,947
parties and performing.
574
00:21:16,047 --> 00:21:19,351
In 1990, he put out the
song, "Tu Pum Pum," a tribute
575
00:21:19,451 --> 00:21:20,619
to the power of the puss-ay.
576
00:21:20,719 --> 00:21:21,686
[meow]
577
00:21:21,786 --> 00:21:25,056
EDGARDO FRANCO:
[singing in spanish]
578
00:21:25,090 --> 00:21:27,058
And El General's
cover blew up.
579
00:21:27,159 --> 00:21:29,861
It was a hit in mainland
America and Puerto Rico
580
00:21:29,961 --> 00:21:32,130
and spread to Central
and South America.
581
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:33,832
The music was
spreading so fast-- it
582
00:21:33,932 --> 00:21:35,233
would have made COVID jealous.
583
00:21:35,333 --> 00:21:38,069
Not too far from Brooklyn, on
Long Island, the defining beat
584
00:21:38,136 --> 00:21:39,838
of reggaeton, the
dembow rhythm,
585
00:21:39,938 --> 00:21:43,608
was popularized by
Panamanian rapper Nando Boom.
586
00:21:43,708 --> 00:21:45,076
The sound was
originally created
587
00:21:45,177 --> 00:21:47,345
by Jamaican dancehall
musician Shabba Ranks,
588
00:21:47,445 --> 00:21:49,347
who looks like if
Blade became a DJ
589
00:21:49,447 --> 00:21:51,216
instead of fighting vampires.
590
00:21:51,316 --> 00:21:53,552
From there, the sound moved
to a different long island,
591
00:21:53,652 --> 00:21:55,120
Puerto Rico.
592
00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:57,556
And here is where all the
Panamanian and New York
593
00:21:57,656 --> 00:21:59,491
ingredients finally
mixed together
594
00:21:59,591 --> 00:22:02,627
to make something special,
like sofrito for your ears.
595
00:22:02,727 --> 00:22:04,496
It took off at a club
called The Noise,
596
00:22:04,596 --> 00:22:08,200
founded by the Quincy Jones
of reggaeton, DJ Negro.
597
00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:10,769
He had been selling hot dogs
on the street to get by,
598
00:22:10,869 --> 00:22:12,838
and then had an idea
to start a club.
599
00:22:12,938 --> 00:22:15,240
It was there that the
genre became known as El
600
00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:17,609
Underground, and created
a whole new generation
601
00:22:17,709 --> 00:22:19,244
of artists like Ivy Queen.
602
00:22:19,344 --> 00:22:21,246
They also popularized
reggaeton's
603
00:22:21,346 --> 00:22:24,082
most famous dance, perreo.
604
00:22:24,182 --> 00:22:25,083
Oh!
605
00:22:25,183 --> 00:22:26,284
I know this dance.
606
00:22:26,384 --> 00:22:28,153
This is just me in 2005.
607
00:22:28,253 --> 00:22:29,254
This is the dance
you do when you
608
00:22:29,354 --> 00:22:30,589
don't want to pay for drinks.
609
00:22:30,689 --> 00:22:32,457
At one point, Puerto
Rico's government
610
00:22:32,557 --> 00:22:34,559
cracked down on El
Underground and tried
611
00:22:34,659 --> 00:22:37,062
to regulate the lyrics
and perreo dance moves.
612
00:22:37,128 --> 00:22:41,199
But all that did was make
El Underground more popular.
613
00:22:41,299 --> 00:22:43,935
This was like when your parents
told you not to date somebody,
614
00:22:44,069 --> 00:22:46,071
but then that person gets abs.
615
00:22:46,137 --> 00:22:47,172
I'm sorry, mama.
616
00:22:47,272 --> 00:22:48,707
You makes some good points.
617
00:22:48,807 --> 00:22:50,709
But I can wash clothes
off his stomach.
618
00:22:50,809 --> 00:22:52,911
Later, the genre exploded
all over mainstream
619
00:22:53,078 --> 00:22:55,380
with the release of the
hit song, "Gasolina"
620
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,282
by Daddy Yankee in 2004.
621
00:22:57,382 --> 00:22:59,818
And Daddy Yankee
was everywhere--
622
00:22:59,918 --> 00:23:03,989
MTV, Time magazine,
even the campaign trail.
623
00:23:04,089 --> 00:23:06,858
I just want to say
thank you, Daddy Yankee.
624
00:23:07,025 --> 00:23:08,026
That's right.
625
00:23:08,059 --> 00:23:09,594
You know a genre is
big when the old, white
626
00:23:09,694 --> 00:23:10,829
Republicans start calling.
627
00:23:10,929 --> 00:23:13,198
For a little while,
reggaeton was huge.
628
00:23:13,298 --> 00:23:15,133
But then record
companies moved on,
629
00:23:15,233 --> 00:23:18,036
and it disappeared in much of
America, which basically means
630
00:23:18,136 --> 00:23:20,572
most Americans thought
it didn't exist anymore,
631
00:23:20,672 --> 00:23:22,174
like a baby who
falls for peekaboo,
632
00:23:22,274 --> 00:23:23,375
but with Latin music.
633
00:23:23,475 --> 00:23:25,110
But even as America
forgot about it,
634
00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:27,145
reggaeton went through
a rebirth in Medellín,
635
00:23:27,245 --> 00:23:29,915
Colombia, the city you
recognize from Narcos.
636
00:23:30,048 --> 00:23:33,318
Colombian artists like J
Balvin, Reykon, and Karol G
637
00:23:33,418 --> 00:23:36,922
gave reggaeton a new, more
mainstream sound, with lyrics
638
00:23:37,055 --> 00:23:39,858
that focus less on violence
and more on sex and romance,
639
00:23:39,958 --> 00:23:43,261
like if Neo became Neo.
640
00:23:43,361 --> 00:23:45,463
It grew and grew in
popularity until America
641
00:23:45,564 --> 00:23:46,665
caught on again with--
642
00:23:46,765 --> 00:23:48,934
(SINGING) Despacito.
643
00:23:49,067 --> 00:23:50,101
DULCE SLOAN: That's right.
644
00:23:50,202 --> 00:23:52,571
Luis Fonsi and Daddy
Yankee took over the globe
645
00:23:52,671 --> 00:23:53,705
with "Despacito."
646
00:23:53,805 --> 00:23:56,308
It was number one for 16 weeks.
647
00:23:56,408 --> 00:23:57,609
This song was so popular--
648
00:23:57,709 --> 00:23:59,611
even racists were
learning Spanish.
649
00:23:59,711 --> 00:24:05,183
Como se dice, go back
to your own country?
650
00:24:05,283 --> 00:24:08,286
And since "Despacito,"
reggaeton has kept its hold
651
00:24:08,386 --> 00:24:09,754
in America, which is great.
652
00:24:09,855 --> 00:24:12,190
Because this is a genre
that is still evolving
653
00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:13,725
and becoming more inclusive.
654
00:24:13,825 --> 00:24:16,094
You know, it grew out of a
rich Hispanic heritage of--
655
00:24:16,194 --> 00:24:17,529
[banging]
656
00:24:17,629 --> 00:24:19,865
Oh, seriously, that
neighbor again?
657
00:24:20,031 --> 00:24:23,869
Hey, sorry about before, but
can you actually turn it up?
658
00:24:24,035 --> 00:24:25,570
Everyone downstairs
started dancing,
659
00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:27,572
and I just want to
keep the party going.
660
00:24:27,672 --> 00:24:31,109
OK, I don't know how
you got in here, but sure.
661
00:24:31,209 --> 00:24:33,311
Can we turn it up, please?
662
00:24:33,411 --> 00:24:35,113
Thank you.
663
00:24:35,213 --> 00:24:36,515
No thank you.
- All right.
664
00:24:36,615 --> 00:24:37,516
OK.
665
00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:39,184
You can get out now.
666
00:24:39,284 --> 00:24:43,555
Hoo.
667
00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:45,490
[cheering]
668
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:46,858
Thank you so much for that.
Dulcé Sloan, everybody.
669
00:24:46,958 --> 00:24:48,527
All right, stay tuned
because when we come back,
670
00:24:48,627 --> 00:24:50,629
Chelsea Manning will be joining
me right here on the show.
671
00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:51,630
You don't want to miss it.
672
00:24:51,730 --> 00:24:55,367
[cheering]
673
00:25:01,374 --> 00:25:06,079
[cheering]
674
00:25:06,179 --> 00:25:07,547
Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
675
00:25:07,647 --> 00:25:10,984
My guest tonight is an
American transparency activist
676
00:25:11,084 --> 00:25:14,020
and former US Army
intelligence analyst,
677
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,189
who disclosed
unauthorized government
678
00:25:16,289 --> 00:25:17,957
documents during her service.
679
00:25:18,057 --> 00:25:20,860
She was convicted of 20
charges and sentenced
680
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,863
to 35 years in prison,
which President
681
00:25:23,963 --> 00:25:26,232
Obama commuted in 2017.
682
00:25:26,332 --> 00:25:28,101
She's here to tell
her side of the story
683
00:25:28,201 --> 00:25:31,271
and talk about her new
memoir, README.txt,
684
00:25:31,371 --> 00:25:32,272
which comes out tomorrow.
685
00:25:32,372 --> 00:25:34,307
Please, welcome
Chelsea Manning.
686
00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:37,243
[cheering]
687
00:25:37,343 --> 00:25:44,350
[music playing]
688
00:25:47,554 --> 00:25:48,922
Chelsea Manning, welcome
to The Daily Show.
689
00:25:49,022 --> 00:25:49,989
Hi, how's it going?
690
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:53,493
It is going well,
and, you know, your book
691
00:25:53,593 --> 00:25:56,162
is one of those books
that, strangely enough,
692
00:25:56,262 --> 00:25:58,665
I felt like I had read
because of how much you had
693
00:25:58,765 --> 00:25:59,799
been in the news, because of--
694
00:25:59,899 --> 00:26:01,101
Right.
695
00:26:01,201 --> 00:26:03,136
TREVOR NOAH: --how big your
story has been in not just
696
00:26:03,236 --> 00:26:06,339
American media, but in
the telling of America's
697
00:26:06,439 --> 00:26:08,575
military operation.
698
00:26:08,675 --> 00:26:11,978
Let's start with, I guess,
the inception of the idea
699
00:26:12,045 --> 00:26:14,380
to write a book.
700
00:26:14,481 --> 00:26:17,183
After pulling off one of the
largest intelligence leaks
701
00:26:17,283 --> 00:26:18,384
in American history--
702
00:26:18,485 --> 00:26:19,486
Right.
703
00:26:19,586 --> 00:26:21,221
--you were vilified.
704
00:26:21,321 --> 00:26:22,489
You served time.
705
00:26:22,589 --> 00:26:23,490
Uh-huh.
706
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:24,824
You were labeled
as a traitor.
707
00:26:24,991 --> 00:26:26,025
CHELSEA MANNING: Right.
708
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:28,428
And it felt like the
story tapered off over time.
709
00:26:28,528 --> 00:26:29,696
And now you've come
back, and you've
710
00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:31,631
reignited many of the
conversations with this book.
711
00:26:31,731 --> 00:26:33,166
My question to you is, why?
712
00:26:33,266 --> 00:26:34,534
Why?
713
00:26:34,634 --> 00:26:38,004
I think that it's the fact that
my own version of the story,
714
00:26:38,037 --> 00:26:40,807
my first draft of
history, if you will,
715
00:26:40,907 --> 00:26:44,644
hasn't been talked
about as much.
716
00:26:44,744 --> 00:26:47,647
I feel like there's been all
the discussion of things that
717
00:26:47,747 --> 00:26:50,517
have happened around me
and involving the military,
718
00:26:50,617 --> 00:26:54,287
involving other personalities,
like President Obama, who
719
00:26:54,387 --> 00:26:55,455
commuted my sentence.
720
00:26:55,555 --> 00:27:00,160
But I feel like my story,
my coming of age story,
721
00:27:00,260 --> 00:27:04,464
really, for just trying
to tell the story of how
722
00:27:04,564 --> 00:27:07,434
I became who I am
today, has been kind
723
00:27:07,534 --> 00:27:08,835
of left out of the picture.
724
00:27:08,968 --> 00:27:10,370
And so I wanted to
tell that story.
725
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:11,671
Yeah, in many
ways, you became
726
00:27:11,771 --> 00:27:14,174
a lightning rod and
an idea because what
727
00:27:14,274 --> 00:27:16,743
you did shook the world.
728
00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:18,411
You came out as
a whistleblower.
729
00:27:18,511 --> 00:27:22,215
And you just-- I mean, to
name a few of the leaks--
730
00:27:22,315 --> 00:27:23,249
and you'll add to them.
731
00:27:23,349 --> 00:27:25,852
I mean, it leaks
about murders that
732
00:27:25,985 --> 00:27:27,220
the American military
had committed
733
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,688
and not told anybody about.
734
00:27:28,788 --> 00:27:29,823
Right.
735
00:27:29,989 --> 00:27:32,559
You had told the world
about collateral damage
736
00:27:32,659 --> 00:27:34,594
and how this wasn't
what we thought it was.
737
00:27:34,694 --> 00:27:35,628
Right.
738
00:27:35,728 --> 00:27:37,363
And there were way
more deaths than had
739
00:27:37,464 --> 00:27:39,032
been previously reported.
740
00:27:39,132 --> 00:27:43,002
As I put it, the true face,
the true reality of asymmetric
741
00:27:43,069 --> 00:27:45,004
21st century warfare,
which is basically, like,
742
00:27:45,071 --> 00:27:48,108
how an occupation-- how
holding territory with
743
00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:51,077
a large occupying army
during an insurgency
744
00:27:51,177 --> 00:27:52,078
actually plays out.
745
00:27:52,178 --> 00:27:53,513
It's not surgical.
746
00:27:53,613 --> 00:27:54,514
TREVOR NOAH: Right.
747
00:27:54,614 --> 00:27:55,815
It's very, very messy.
748
00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:59,285
What did you hope to achieve
by leaking the information?
749
00:27:59,385 --> 00:28:02,689
I wanted another
person like me
750
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:06,626
to feel as informed
as I did finally
751
00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:08,428
about the true reality.
752
00:28:08,528 --> 00:28:10,063
I mean, that's why
I call it README.txt
753
00:28:10,163 --> 00:28:11,664
because that is the document.
754
00:28:11,765 --> 00:28:13,566
I mean, that's what I
said in the document.
755
00:28:13,666 --> 00:28:16,336
Did you hope it would
change what the US military
756
00:28:16,436 --> 00:28:17,971
was doing in the Middle East?
757
00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:21,074
Or did you think it would
shift public perception?
758
00:28:21,174 --> 00:28:23,343
The public
discourse, I feel like,
759
00:28:23,443 --> 00:28:25,145
is what I really
want it to impact.
760
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,782
I feel like at
least if the public
761
00:28:28,882 --> 00:28:30,550
is informed, then at least--
762
00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:34,154
like, being a-- like, having
conversation with your doctor,
763
00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:35,255
you have informed consent.
764
00:28:35,355 --> 00:28:36,623
TREVOR NOAH: Right.
765
00:28:36,723 --> 00:28:39,526
I just always assumed that you
went straight to Wikileaks.
766
00:28:39,626 --> 00:28:42,162
I didn't know how hard you
tried to get American media
767
00:28:42,262 --> 00:28:43,830
outlets to look
at the information
768
00:28:43,997 --> 00:28:45,131
and to have first dibs at it.
- Right.
769
00:28:45,231 --> 00:28:46,399
Why do you think
they said no?
770
00:28:46,499 --> 00:28:47,867
And why do you think
nobody got back to you?
771
00:28:48,001 --> 00:28:49,202
Well, it was very
difficult. So it's,
772
00:28:49,302 --> 00:28:51,171
like, technical difficulties.
773
00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:52,305
We didn't have the tools.
774
00:28:52,405 --> 00:28:55,075
Like, signal encryption
wasn't widely adopted
775
00:28:55,175 --> 00:28:57,577
by traditional media outlets.
776
00:28:57,677 --> 00:29:01,514
And trying to-- and didn't
trust the telephone system.
777
00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:02,816
TREVOR NOAH: I don't blame.
778
00:29:02,949 --> 00:29:06,386
And I didn't trust email,
and I had my reasons for that.
779
00:29:06,486 --> 00:29:08,555
So trying to avoid
that, but also
780
00:29:08,655 --> 00:29:10,090
trying to do a
physical thing while I
781
00:29:10,190 --> 00:29:11,424
only have a limited
amount of time,
782
00:29:11,524 --> 00:29:12,992
and there was a blizzard.
783
00:29:13,093 --> 00:29:15,695
It was just very
logistically difficult.
784
00:29:15,795 --> 00:29:18,731
And if any one thing, as
somebody asked me earlier
785
00:29:18,832 --> 00:29:21,234
today, like, if any one
thing had changed, yeah,
786
00:29:21,334 --> 00:29:22,802
this would have never happened.
787
00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:23,803
Interesting.
788
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:25,972
So you were trying
to maintain--
789
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,141
I mean, there was
a point in the book
790
00:29:28,241 --> 00:29:32,011
where I talk about how I--
791
00:29:32,112 --> 00:29:35,582
or I was sitting at Starbucks
and uploading this stuff,
792
00:29:35,682 --> 00:29:36,683
and it wasn't working.
793
00:29:36,783 --> 00:29:39,152
And because of
Starbucks internet,
794
00:29:39,252 --> 00:29:40,520
it almost didn't happen.
795
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:41,988
[laughter]
796
00:29:42,088 --> 00:29:44,991
I will say, there are parts
of the book that are almost
797
00:29:45,058 --> 00:29:46,426
comical unintentionally.
798
00:29:46,526 --> 00:29:49,596
Because you talk
about copying--
799
00:29:49,696 --> 00:29:53,133
what is it, 750,00
government files onto CDs,
800
00:29:53,233 --> 00:29:54,300
and then you just
labeled them--
801
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,535
you just wrote band names?
802
00:29:55,635 --> 00:29:56,536
Right.
803
00:29:56,636 --> 00:29:59,172
Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga.
804
00:29:59,272 --> 00:30:00,540
So I wanted to know.
805
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,509
When I was reading this, like,
did you write those authors
806
00:30:02,609 --> 00:30:03,977
because you assumed
that military
807
00:30:04,077 --> 00:30:06,112
personnel would be like, oh,
that's-- there's no harm?
808
00:30:06,212 --> 00:30:07,113
Pretty much.
809
00:30:07,213 --> 00:30:08,214
OK.
810
00:30:08,314 --> 00:30:09,816
So do you think there
were some artists where
811
00:30:09,949 --> 00:30:10,850
they would have been
like, I want to listen
812
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:12,152
to what's on that CD?
Is that what--
813
00:30:12,252 --> 00:30:13,420
- Yes.
- OK.
814
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,421
Because it's
really interesting.
815
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:15,422
You have these CDs.
816
00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:16,423
You go to the Starbucks.
817
00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:18,158
You start uploading
all of this.
818
00:30:18,258 --> 00:30:20,059
Was there ever a part
of you that was afraid
819
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,494
that you would
compromise the US
820
00:30:21,594 --> 00:30:22,729
more than you would help it?
821
00:30:22,829 --> 00:30:26,032
I don't think so, and
I say that because I
822
00:30:26,132 --> 00:30:27,033
knew this information.
823
00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:28,001
TREVOR NOAH: Got it.
824
00:30:28,101 --> 00:30:29,335
I worked with it every day.
825
00:30:29,436 --> 00:30:34,240
I mean, and I think about,
like, senior public officials.
826
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:35,975
Whenever they have access
to this information,
827
00:30:36,009 --> 00:30:37,310
they don't understand it.
828
00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:38,311
And that's scary.
829
00:30:38,411 --> 00:30:39,579
I mean, it's our
job to tell them,
830
00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:41,681
but it's a question
as to whether are
831
00:30:41,781 --> 00:30:43,416
they listen or not.
So--
832
00:30:43,516 --> 00:30:45,051
So you're basically
explaining it to them,
833
00:30:45,151 --> 00:30:47,520
and then they're working
off what you've told them.
834
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:48,621
Maybe.
835
00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:49,622
Wow.
836
00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:51,191
Depends on how
they interpret it.
837
00:30:51,291 --> 00:30:53,226
I couldn't help
reading through the book
838
00:30:53,326 --> 00:30:54,794
and wondering, how
much of your life
839
00:30:54,894 --> 00:30:57,730
has informed the latter
part of your journey?
840
00:30:57,831 --> 00:31:01,201
You know, you weren't
just famous for being
841
00:31:01,301 --> 00:31:02,402
one of the biggest
whistleblowers
842
00:31:02,502 --> 00:31:03,736
in American history.
843
00:31:03,837 --> 00:31:06,940
You also then became famous
as somebody who transitioned
844
00:31:06,973 --> 00:31:10,610
at a time when the conversation
was really-- you even
845
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:12,579
speak about it in the book.
846
00:31:12,679 --> 00:31:13,947
Right.
847
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,849
TREVOR NOAH: Was there not
a part of you that thought,
848
00:31:15,949 --> 00:31:17,684
I'm dealing with my gender?
849
00:31:17,784 --> 00:31:20,086
I'm dealing with a
world that doesn't
850
00:31:20,186 --> 00:31:21,287
accept me the way I am.
851
00:31:21,387 --> 00:31:22,455
Right.
852
00:31:22,555 --> 00:31:24,057
Why get involved in
leaking military secrets?
853
00:31:24,157 --> 00:31:25,525
Maybe deal with one
thing at a time.
854
00:31:25,625 --> 00:31:26,626
I didn't think
of it like that.
855
00:31:26,726 --> 00:31:31,498
I thought this--
despite my background,
856
00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:33,299
despite everything
else, it was just--
857
00:31:33,399 --> 00:31:34,801
it was just so clear to me.
858
00:31:34,968 --> 00:31:36,136
It was just-- it
was crystal clear
859
00:31:36,236 --> 00:31:38,037
that something had to be done.
860
00:31:38,138 --> 00:31:42,275
And-- and I just--
861
00:31:42,375 --> 00:31:45,979
I mean, I was very young, so--
862
00:31:46,012 --> 00:31:47,480
and I think it's also
important to remember
863
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:51,885
that the consequences for
this weren't clear, right?
864
00:31:51,985 --> 00:31:53,987
I thought I was going to lose
my job, which was a big deal.
865
00:31:54,053 --> 00:31:55,121
TREVOR NOAH: You
didn't think you'd
866
00:31:55,221 --> 00:31:56,256
be sentenced to three decades.
867
00:31:56,356 --> 00:31:58,992
Right.
868
00:31:59,058 --> 00:32:01,728
Nobody had ever gone
to prison before me.
869
00:32:01,828 --> 00:32:03,530
Do you think the
American military is more
870
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:04,931
honest now in its operations?
871
00:32:04,964 --> 00:32:08,368
Do you think you've shifted
the paradigm even slightly?
872
00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:11,638
I think that, obviously,
the context has changed.
873
00:32:11,738 --> 00:32:12,972
I mean, I look at
the war in Ukraine.
874
00:32:13,072 --> 00:32:14,707
And I always find
it fascinating
875
00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:17,143
that as the Russians
invaded Ukraine,
876
00:32:17,243 --> 00:32:20,413
I knew more about what
was happening in the--
877
00:32:20,513 --> 00:32:22,715
from my laptop at
home than I would
878
00:32:22,816 --> 00:32:25,385
have known about what was
going on in Iraq while I
879
00:32:25,485 --> 00:32:26,386
was actually deployed there.
880
00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:27,387
TREVOR NOAH: OK,
that's interesting.
881
00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:28,621
--in an intelligence center.
882
00:32:28,721 --> 00:32:32,125
Like, this is just the sheer
firehose of information
883
00:32:32,225 --> 00:32:34,360
that we receive from every
single different angle.
884
00:32:34,461 --> 00:32:37,263
And I actually think that it's
shifted from not having access
885
00:32:37,363 --> 00:32:39,866
to information to having
access to so much information
886
00:32:39,966 --> 00:32:42,535
that you can't filter out
accurate from inaccurate,
887
00:32:42,635 --> 00:32:45,472
misinformation from
disinformation,
888
00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,674
and that this is going
to be the main struggle
889
00:32:47,774 --> 00:32:49,342
that we have moving forward.
890
00:32:49,442 --> 00:32:51,244
And now I was really--
891
00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:53,980
just, like, joy poured out of
me for you when I found out
892
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,381
that you're now DJing as well.
893
00:32:55,482 --> 00:32:56,983
Yes.
894
00:32:57,083 --> 00:32:58,685
That's, like, a
cool journey to be on.
895
00:32:58,785 --> 00:32:59,686
[applause]
896
00:32:59,786 --> 00:33:00,687
Yeah.
897
00:33:00,787 --> 00:33:03,056
I'm DJing my own--
898
00:33:03,156 --> 00:33:05,058
I'm DJing my own release party.
899
00:33:05,158 --> 00:33:06,392
TREVOR NOAH: What
are you playing?
900
00:33:06,493 --> 00:33:07,660
What I play?
TREVOR NOAH: Yeah.
901
00:33:07,761 --> 00:33:09,562
Electronic dance
music, hyperpop.
902
00:33:09,662 --> 00:33:10,697
TREVOR NOAH: Oh, I love that.
- Yeah.
903
00:33:10,797 --> 00:33:12,065
OK, so it's not
Taylor Swift, Gaga.
904
00:33:12,165 --> 00:33:13,066
Like, do you--
905
00:33:13,166 --> 00:33:14,334
That's my old--
that's--
906
00:33:14,434 --> 00:33:15,335
OK.
Do you listen--
907
00:33:15,435 --> 00:33:16,836
I had a Blink 182 era.
908
00:33:16,936 --> 00:33:18,304
OK, I like that.
909
00:33:18,404 --> 00:33:19,572
Well, congratulations
on your journey.
910
00:33:19,672 --> 00:33:20,940
Thank you so much for
joining me on the show.
911
00:33:20,974 --> 00:33:21,941
And it's a really
fascinating book.
912
00:33:21,975 --> 00:33:22,942
Thank you.
913
00:33:22,976 --> 00:33:23,943
Thank you for being here.
914
00:33:23,977 --> 00:33:25,011
[cheering]
915
00:33:25,111 --> 00:33:27,313
README.txt comes out tomorrow.
916
00:33:27,414 --> 00:33:28,281
Chelsea Manning, everybody.
917
00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:29,416
We're going to
take a quick break,
918
00:33:29,516 --> 00:33:31,117
but we'll be right
back after this.
919
00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:32,118
Thank you very much.
920
00:33:32,218 --> 00:33:35,555
[applause]
921
00:33:40,158 --> 00:33:40,559
[applause]
922
00:33:40,659 --> 00:33:44,129
[cheering]
923
00:33:44,229 --> 00:33:45,330
Well, that's our
show for tonight.
924
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:46,398
Thank you so much
for tuning in.
925
00:33:46,498 --> 00:33:48,667
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926
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927
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933
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934
00:34:03,949 --> 00:34:05,784
Until next time,
stay safe out there.
935
00:34:05,884 --> 00:34:09,120
And remember, you
can't just draw a badge
936
00:34:09,221 --> 00:34:11,489
and become a police officer.
937
00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:13,792
You have to write police on it.
938
00:34:13,892 --> 00:34:14,793
And then you're in.
939
00:34:14,893 --> 00:34:20,198
Now here it is,
your moment of zen.
940
00:34:20,298 --> 00:34:21,266
Oh, she was so great.
941
00:34:21,366 --> 00:34:22,534
We dare you to say she wasn't.
942
00:34:22,634 --> 00:34:23,969
[high-pitched laugh]
943
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:25,403
She was ridiculous!
944
00:34:25,503 --> 00:34:28,607
But you did not, oh,
that's so profound.