1 00:01:42,208 --> 00:01:44,119 My name is Damon. 2 00:01:45,833 --> 00:01:48,370 And this is my daughter, velvet. 3 00:01:51,375 --> 00:01:53,366 Are you trying to plant dad? 4 00:01:53,375 --> 00:01:54,865 She's just turned four. 5 00:01:58,083 --> 00:02:00,495 Her days are spent in a happy bubble, 6 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:02,957 created by my excellent wife, Zoe. 7 00:02:02,958 --> 00:02:04,619 Yeah? 8 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:11,663 She's lucky enough that her major concerns right now 9 00:02:11,667 --> 00:02:13,282 are numbers... 10 00:02:13,292 --> 00:02:16,489 Daddy. Mummy. Velly. 11 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,411 Zoe: So how many pieces is that? 12 00:02:21,125 --> 00:02:23,161 Damon: How to tell a knock knock joke... 13 00:02:23,167 --> 00:02:24,782 - Knock, knock. - Who's there? 14 00:02:24,792 --> 00:02:26,657 - Unicorn. - Unicorn who? 15 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:28,999 Unicorn jump over the rainbow. 16 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,913 Oh, that's who it is! 17 00:02:32,917 --> 00:02:35,659 And the elusive art of sleep direction. 18 00:02:39,917 --> 00:02:42,659 But soon she'll have to leave that happy bubble 19 00:02:42,667 --> 00:02:45,659 and face a rapidly deteriorating environment. 20 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:47,783 Reporter: Yes, John, the ice sheet is now melting 21 00:02:47,792 --> 00:02:49,498 faster than the scientists predicted. 22 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:50,990 We're seeing large waterfalls 23 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,536 pouring off the side of the ice. 24 00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:54,624 It's an alarming acceleration. 25 00:02:54,625 --> 00:02:56,786 Damon: The need to address this is so urgent... 26 00:02:58,417 --> 00:03:00,032 That it often overwhelms me. 27 00:03:05,917 --> 00:03:09,614 The simplest way I can explain our current predicament 28 00:03:09,625 --> 00:03:12,788 is to briefly channel my year nine science teacher 29 00:03:12,792 --> 00:03:15,659 and pretend our house is the planet. 30 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:22,739 Carbon is a miraculous building block 31 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:24,286 and for millions of years, 32 00:03:24,292 --> 00:03:27,284 our planet has been part of a natural carbon cycle. 33 00:03:27,292 --> 00:03:30,284 Some gets released, some gets stored, 34 00:03:30,292 --> 00:03:31,907 and if these things are balanced, 35 00:03:31,917 --> 00:03:33,782 then equilibrium is maintained. 36 00:03:35,292 --> 00:03:37,157 But since the industrial revolution, 37 00:03:37,167 --> 00:03:39,533 we've broken the balance 38 00:03:39,542 --> 00:03:41,282 and have been dramatically increasing 39 00:03:41,292 --> 00:03:43,658 the release of the earth's stored carbon 40 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:45,282 into our atmosphere. 41 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,865 For hundreds of thousands of years, 42 00:03:54,875 --> 00:03:59,039 we've hovered between about 180 and 280 parts per million 43 00:03:59,042 --> 00:04:01,784 of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. 44 00:04:01,792 --> 00:04:03,657 But since the industrial revolution, 45 00:04:03,667 --> 00:04:06,659 that number has shot up over 40% 46 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:09,158 to more than 400 parts per million, 47 00:04:09,167 --> 00:04:11,624 trapping heat in our atmosphere. 48 00:04:13,625 --> 00:04:17,117 More than 90% of the excess heat being trapped 49 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:19,116 is absorbed by our oceans. 50 00:04:20,375 --> 00:04:23,867 The oceans also absorb much of the extra carbon dioxide, 51 00:04:23,875 --> 00:04:30,075 and so are now 30% more acidic than they were 150 years ago. 52 00:04:30,083 --> 00:04:32,699 And this is impacting on biodiversity, 53 00:04:32,708 --> 00:04:37,372 as many sea creatures, such as oysters or clams, 54 00:04:37,375 --> 00:04:40,242 are struggling to make their shells. 55 00:04:40,250 --> 00:04:43,617 But the increased heat and overall energy in the system 56 00:04:43,625 --> 00:04:46,617 also leads to more intense weather events. 57 00:04:49,083 --> 00:04:51,244 Hotter air can hold more moisture, 58 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:54,367 so rainfalls, storms, hurricanes, floods, 59 00:04:54,375 --> 00:04:57,082 even snowfalls can become heavier. 60 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,822 It is true that the climate has always been changing. 61 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:06,869 It just hasn't changed this rapidly 62 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:08,831 in at least 50 million years. 63 00:05:13,458 --> 00:05:16,120 Unfortunately, the increase in heat 64 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:18,867 also means that our polar caps and glaciers 65 00:05:18,875 --> 00:05:20,490 are rapidly melting, 66 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:22,331 which causes sea level rise 67 00:05:22,333 --> 00:05:24,119 that threatens hundreds of millions of people 68 00:05:33,625 --> 00:05:36,116 The earth is our collective home, 69 00:05:36,125 --> 00:05:39,617 but we're actually renting it from future generations. 70 00:05:39,625 --> 00:05:42,458 So we need to not only rapidly reduce our emissions... 71 00:05:43,958 --> 00:05:45,619 Man: Oi! Righto! 72 00:05:47,833 --> 00:05:49,824 But also find ways to sequester 73 00:05:49,833 --> 00:05:53,121 or draw down the excess carbon dioxide 74 00:05:53,125 --> 00:05:55,116 that has already been put into the system. 75 00:05:56,500 --> 00:06:00,322 Many scientists believe that getting down to 350 ppm 76 00:06:00,333 --> 00:06:02,244 would be a terrific goal. 77 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:15,741 So I think we're all pretty aware 78 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,957 that when it comes to predictions of the future, 79 00:06:17,958 --> 00:06:20,995 they're almost entirely negative at the moment. 80 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,832 Any time you open your newsfeed or social media, 81 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:25,619 there's some kind of doom and gloom story 82 00:06:25,625 --> 00:06:28,241 about the future of our environment. 83 00:06:29,625 --> 00:06:32,241 And as a father, I... 84 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:35,242 I think there's room for a different story. 85 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:37,582 A story that focuses on the solutions 86 00:06:37,583 --> 00:06:39,699 to some of these problems. 87 00:06:39,708 --> 00:06:44,577 So my plan is to go out and find some of these solutions 88 00:06:44,583 --> 00:06:47,575 and then create a vision of a different future 89 00:06:47,583 --> 00:06:49,448 for our daughter. 90 00:06:49,458 --> 00:06:50,698 What about... 91 00:06:50,708 --> 00:06:52,744 Damon: I want to show her what the world would look like 92 00:06:52,750 --> 00:06:56,572 if the solutions I find were implemented today. 93 00:06:56,583 --> 00:06:59,746 So, what would the world look like in 2040 94 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:03,117 if we just embraced the best that already exists? 95 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:06,741 And that's my only rule. 96 00:07:06,750 --> 00:07:09,492 Everything I show her in this 2040, 97 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:12,822 has to exist today, in some form. 98 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:14,323 I can't make it up. 99 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,116 - Velvet: See you, dadda. - See you, darling. 100 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:23,456 Have fun. 101 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:26,832 Damon: I'm calling it an exercise in 102 00:07:26,833 --> 00:07:29,199 fact-based dreaming. 103 00:07:54,583 --> 00:07:59,703 The first step in this exercise was to consult the generation 104 00:07:59,708 --> 00:08:03,371 who'll be sharing the future with our daughter. 105 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:06,365 - Hi, everybody. - Kids: Morning. 106 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:08,240 Morning. My name is Damon. 107 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:10,491 Now, do you guys know where we've come from today? 108 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,456 Do you know what country that I'm from? 109 00:08:12,458 --> 00:08:13,368 Kids: No. 110 00:08:13,375 --> 00:08:15,616 We have animals called platypus. 111 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:20,457 - Kangaroo. - Kids: Australia! 112 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:21,948 Australia? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 113 00:08:21,958 --> 00:08:23,869 We've been going all around the world 114 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:25,615 and talking to lots of different children your age, 115 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:27,331 and so we're going to ask you what kind of things 116 00:08:27,333 --> 00:08:28,823 you want to see in the future. 117 00:08:32,042 --> 00:08:36,035 Well, what would make me happy in the world is... 118 00:08:36,042 --> 00:08:37,532 Hmm. 119 00:08:38,792 --> 00:08:40,407 I think we should get this invention 120 00:08:40,417 --> 00:08:45,787 which sucks up all of the rubbish in the world 121 00:08:45,792 --> 00:08:49,364 and puts it in a intergalactic dimension, 122 00:08:49,375 --> 00:08:51,912 which is a rubbish dimension. 123 00:08:51,917 --> 00:08:55,114 I'd like to see deforestation being stopped 124 00:08:55,125 --> 00:08:57,992 because it's ruining the planet. 125 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,742 Animals are losing their homes. 126 00:09:10,417 --> 00:09:13,909 Cleaner water. That would really make me happy. 127 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,161 Well, I would like for the government 128 00:09:24,167 --> 00:09:28,240 to have done something on global warming and pollution, 129 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:32,664 as now, I think they're not really doing anything about it. 130 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:34,783 You know, just be respectful to earth. 131 00:09:40,292 --> 00:09:43,989 It was sobering to learn how preoccupied the kids are 132 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,286 with the state of the planet, 133 00:09:46,292 --> 00:09:48,283 and what a big job I had ahead of me. 134 00:09:49,417 --> 00:09:53,239 So I began my search for solutions with energy. 135 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,414 I found myself in Bangladesh, where the roads are chaotic... 136 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:29,034 And people are openly peddling ice on the streets. 137 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:34,124 Man: Currently, Bangladesh has one of the largest 138 00:10:34,125 --> 00:10:36,036 solar home system markets in the world. 139 00:10:36,042 --> 00:10:37,782 Over 5 million solar home systems. 140 00:10:37,792 --> 00:10:40,624 So most households in every rural area in Bangladesh 141 00:10:40,625 --> 00:10:42,115 actually has a solar home system, 142 00:10:42,125 --> 00:10:43,911 and that's their primary source of energy. 143 00:10:43,917 --> 00:10:45,248 Damon: Wow. 144 00:10:46,750 --> 00:10:51,164 This charming 23-year-old is neel tamhane, 145 00:10:51,167 --> 00:10:53,874 who has studied alternative energy technologies 146 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:56,662 and come home to help power his country. 147 00:10:58,417 --> 00:11:02,285 Turns out I wasn't the only one who wanted to hear him talk. 148 00:11:04,625 --> 00:11:07,788 Neel: So what we do is we interconnect solar home systems 149 00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:10,408 and we enable energy sharing between them, 150 00:11:10,417 --> 00:11:11,907 which is basically trading, 151 00:11:11,917 --> 00:11:14,249 and the customer chooses when they want to trade 152 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:15,740 and when they don't. 153 00:11:17,292 --> 00:11:19,658 Instead of building large grids, 154 00:11:19,667 --> 00:11:21,908 we're proposing a decentralised structure 155 00:11:21,917 --> 00:11:24,750 where we start building grids bottom up. 156 00:11:26,917 --> 00:11:30,034 Damon: The setup is quite simple. 157 00:11:30,042 --> 00:11:32,784 Any home that has solar panels and a battery... 158 00:11:34,667 --> 00:11:36,532 Can buy this special box... 159 00:11:38,042 --> 00:11:39,782 Which connects them to another house 160 00:11:39,792 --> 00:11:41,282 with the same setup. 161 00:11:43,250 --> 00:11:46,788 The box allows the buying or selling of energy 162 00:11:46,792 --> 00:11:48,282 between the homes. 163 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:50,998 But it gets better. 164 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:54,741 Neel: There is still a segment of the population 165 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:56,741 that still can't afford to buy a solar home system. 166 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,286 So, instead of doing that, 167 00:11:58,292 --> 00:12:00,874 if they can just buy a small solbox, 168 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:02,786 they can just buy energy when they need it. 169 00:12:02,792 --> 00:12:05,374 You fill up your solbox with money. 170 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:08,287 As you keep using energy, it deducts money. 171 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:15,036 Damon: What this means 172 00:12:15,042 --> 00:12:17,408 is that all the boxes can connect to each other 173 00:12:17,417 --> 00:12:18,907 to form a microgrid. 174 00:12:20,292 --> 00:12:22,658 It's like a water tank of community energy 175 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:25,625 that people can give to or take from. 176 00:12:27,250 --> 00:12:29,366 The beauty is that this microgrid 177 00:12:29,375 --> 00:12:31,991 can then connect to the adjacent village's microgrid 178 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,992 and the network becomes stronger and stronger. 179 00:12:36,542 --> 00:12:38,783 There's a mimicking of nature here, isn't there? 180 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:41,909 Like, in the way that cells multiply 181 00:12:41,917 --> 00:12:44,374 and form something and strengthen it. 182 00:12:44,375 --> 00:12:46,366 Yeah, that's a great analogy. 183 00:12:46,375 --> 00:12:48,661 You have one solar home system, 184 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:50,749 you interconnect with your neighbours, you make it 50. 185 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:52,536 Slowly, you interconnect villages. 186 00:12:52,542 --> 00:12:54,123 Once you have collected hundreds, 187 00:12:54,125 --> 00:12:56,116 you can hook it up to the grid, you can sell to the grid. 188 00:12:56,125 --> 00:12:57,615 Forget buying from it - 189 00:12:57,625 --> 00:12:59,411 you become the primary energy generation source 190 00:12:59,417 --> 00:13:00,907 for the country. 191 00:13:01,917 --> 00:13:04,158 So the idea is we are like a swarm of bees 192 00:13:04,167 --> 00:13:07,284 or a swarm of fish that move together, 193 00:13:07,292 --> 00:13:10,250 pool in all our energies together to run bigger loads. 194 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,412 Damon: This technology could revolutionise 195 00:13:15,417 --> 00:13:18,534 the way we distribute energy worldwide. 196 00:13:20,875 --> 00:13:23,742 Damon: From little things, big things grow. 197 00:13:25,417 --> 00:13:29,615 Man: When we have a decentralised mode of energy, 198 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:31,411 the same thing that happened with the web, 199 00:13:31,417 --> 00:13:32,907 happens with information 200 00:13:32,917 --> 00:13:34,908 where basically, it's Democratic. 201 00:13:34,917 --> 00:13:36,657 Energy becomes Democratic. 202 00:13:36,667 --> 00:13:39,033 But also it becomes very efficient. 203 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:40,498 It's far more efficient 204 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,913 because you produce it at the point where you consume it. 205 00:13:48,125 --> 00:13:51,288 Damon: Having efficient local energy 206 00:13:51,292 --> 00:13:53,908 also provides greater resilience 207 00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:56,374 in an increasingly hostile climate. 208 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:00,912 Neel: And when we talk about climate change, it's floods, 209 00:14:00,917 --> 00:14:04,159 it's natural disasters that happen very often here. 210 00:14:04,167 --> 00:14:07,910 In the last 1.5 years, we have seen about 5, 6 disasters. 211 00:14:11,125 --> 00:14:14,367 When you have a centralised grid, everything breaks down 212 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:17,242 and then it takes a long time to build it back up. 213 00:14:20,375 --> 00:14:22,866 If we have decentralised generation sources, 214 00:14:22,875 --> 00:14:25,412 every household has their own generation source. 215 00:14:25,417 --> 00:14:26,532 They're independent 216 00:14:26,542 --> 00:14:28,032 and they have their power in their own hands, 217 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:29,532 instead of depending on the government 218 00:14:29,542 --> 00:14:31,157 to provide it to them. 219 00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:54,114 Damon: The impact of the locally-generated electricity 220 00:14:54,125 --> 00:14:55,911 is best seen at night. 221 00:14:58,542 --> 00:15:03,366 The influx of cash has made the village bazaar the place to be. 222 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,786 You guys have just skipped the landline telephone. 223 00:15:42,792 --> 00:15:44,282 You've gone straight to the mobile. 224 00:15:44,292 --> 00:15:46,783 Exactly. And it's throughout. It's not even about energy. 225 00:15:46,792 --> 00:15:49,374 We skipped the grid and we build our own. 226 00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:51,912 There are developing countries like India, 227 00:15:51,917 --> 00:15:54,124 Bangladesh, a lot of countries in east Africa 228 00:15:54,125 --> 00:15:56,491 that are trying to do a top-down electrification. 229 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,616 They are spending billions of dollars here. 230 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:00,115 But instead of doing that, 231 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:02,537 if they can actually help subsidise these systems 232 00:16:02,542 --> 00:16:04,749 and let people own their own system, 233 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:07,787 they would be so proud by owning these. 234 00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:10,408 So when I'm trading energy with you, suppose, 235 00:16:10,417 --> 00:16:13,739 you're actually paying me for it, and I'm getting the money, 236 00:16:13,750 --> 00:16:15,866 so the money also stays within the economy. 237 00:16:18,042 --> 00:16:19,748 This is bringing back people together. 238 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,036 Damon: Yes! 239 00:16:24,792 --> 00:16:29,365 As I left the village, I had a renewed sense of hope. 240 00:16:29,375 --> 00:16:31,912 Particularly when neel told me 241 00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:34,249 this technology is springing up in other countries. 242 00:16:38,167 --> 00:16:41,124 This solution is great for our environment, 243 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:44,538 with so many cascading benefits 244 00:16:44,542 --> 00:16:47,409 for any community that chooses to adopt it. 245 00:16:53,792 --> 00:16:58,286 So, sticking to my rule of only showing what exists today, 246 00:16:58,292 --> 00:17:01,409 here's what the future of energy could look like 247 00:17:01,417 --> 00:17:02,907 for my daughter. 248 00:17:11,625 --> 00:17:13,832 This, velvet, could be you. 249 00:17:14,875 --> 00:17:16,240 Or this. 250 00:17:17,333 --> 00:17:18,994 Or even this. 251 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,956 We love you. 252 00:17:20,958 --> 00:17:23,620 And this could be where you live. 253 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:26,115 Or here. 254 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,491 Or even here. 255 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:32,365 But probably not here. 256 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:36,823 Darling! It's seven o'clock! It's time for family yoga! 257 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:43,456 Crystal, bring up energy. 258 00:17:44,625 --> 00:17:46,865 Automated voice: Certainly. What would you like me to do? 259 00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:51,117 Damon: Imagine if your house in 2040 260 00:17:51,125 --> 00:17:52,865 is part of a microgrid 261 00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:56,072 that helps power the economy throughout your city. 262 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,491 Imagine if your windows are solar glass 263 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,616 and come standard in new homes. 264 00:18:08,250 --> 00:18:12,448 And your solar battery is cheap and recyclable. 265 00:18:14,458 --> 00:18:17,996 This could allow you to donate your excess energy. 266 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,956 I'm going away for four days. 267 00:18:19,958 --> 00:18:22,074 Crystal: Would you like to share or sell? 268 00:18:22,083 --> 00:18:25,325 Share. Hurricane relief. 269 00:18:25,333 --> 00:18:27,369 Crystal: Done. You're a legend. 270 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:29,115 Thanks. 271 00:18:29,125 --> 00:18:30,740 - Crystal: Humans are awesome. - Ok. 272 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:33,492 Crystal: That choice was good for your soul. 273 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:34,831 Alright. 274 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:37,615 Tony: Every home is going to have a battery 275 00:18:37,625 --> 00:18:40,207 that's going to store as much electricity 276 00:18:40,208 --> 00:18:41,698 as it possibly can store. 277 00:18:41,708 --> 00:18:43,869 And all the governments in the world 278 00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:45,740 cannot push back against that 279 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:48,241 because folks are going to go buy it at the store, 280 00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:51,367 at Ikea, at Walmart, at the supermarket. 281 00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:52,865 And it's going to be very cheap. 282 00:18:52,875 --> 00:18:54,866 So cheap that you're not even going to notice. 283 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,832 Damon: If cheaper home energy systems 284 00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:04,825 are combined with more people demanding clean energy 285 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:06,323 from their politicians, darling... 286 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:09,365 Then there's a chance many countries 287 00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:13,368 could be close to 100% renewable by 2040. 288 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:19,240 What I can guarantee 289 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:21,741 is that not only will I be an embarrassing dad... 290 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:23,240 Find news. 291 00:19:24,333 --> 00:19:27,120 But that natural disasters will increase their intensity 292 00:19:27,125 --> 00:19:28,831 over the next two decades. 293 00:19:30,458 --> 00:19:32,870 Man: Absolute chaos. 294 00:19:32,875 --> 00:19:35,582 Woman: Run, run! Get out! Run, run! 295 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,241 Man: God. Oh, my god! 296 00:19:41,708 --> 00:19:43,244 Woman: Whoa! 297 00:19:49,875 --> 00:19:51,456 But what I now know 298 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:54,370 is that we actually have everything we need 299 00:19:54,375 --> 00:19:57,117 on both a large and small-scale 300 00:19:57,125 --> 00:20:00,117 to power us through these disasters. 301 00:20:01,375 --> 00:20:03,115 And by building new grids, 302 00:20:03,125 --> 00:20:06,447 loads of people will get loads of jobs. 303 00:20:07,625 --> 00:20:09,365 - Oh, that's good. - Mmm. 304 00:20:11,083 --> 00:20:14,871 But what would be really great during this transition, velvet, 305 00:20:14,875 --> 00:20:18,072 is if the people who work in the fossil fuel industry 306 00:20:18,083 --> 00:20:22,452 are given support and funding for retraining in new careers. 307 00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:27,575 Paid for by redirecting some of the $10 million a minute 308 00:20:27,583 --> 00:20:31,747 governments currently spend subsidising fossil fuels. 309 00:20:56,833 --> 00:20:59,620 What struck me about the microgrids 310 00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:02,457 is that the profits from the shared energy 311 00:21:02,458 --> 00:21:05,825 stay within the community and empower individuals, 312 00:21:05,833 --> 00:21:08,996 rather than going to a big energy company elsewhere. 313 00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:14,075 But it turns out microgrids are currently illegal 314 00:21:14,083 --> 00:21:15,573 in some countries. 315 00:21:18,083 --> 00:21:20,745 If we recognised that our well-being 316 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:23,332 fundamentally depends upon the stability 317 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,244 and the thriving of this planet, 318 00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:26,740 we would put that at the heart 319 00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:28,240 of the economic system we create. 320 00:21:30,125 --> 00:21:32,616 Damon: I met with the economist Kate raworth 321 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,331 in an appropriate location. 322 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:38,741 Kate is proposing a new economic framework 323 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:41,082 designed for our current predicament. 324 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,617 Today's economy, the returns of production 325 00:21:45,625 --> 00:21:47,616 are accruing to a 1%, 326 00:21:47,625 --> 00:21:49,206 which leaves us with 327 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:50,948 these extraordinary levels of inequality. 328 00:21:50,958 --> 00:21:52,619 So we need to create an economy 329 00:21:52,625 --> 00:21:55,457 in which value created is shared far more equitably 330 00:21:55,458 --> 00:21:57,244 with all those who help create it. 331 00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,367 And daft though it sounds, I think it looks like a doughnut. 332 00:22:00,375 --> 00:22:02,240 The kind with the hole in the middle. 333 00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:05,083 So, in the hole in the middle of that doughnut 334 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,115 on life's essentials - 335 00:22:08,125 --> 00:22:10,241 be it food, 336 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:12,115 housing, 337 00:22:12,125 --> 00:22:13,865 education, 338 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:15,115 water, 339 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,241 energy, 340 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:20,083 and so we want to get everybody in the world out of that hole. 341 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:26,323 But we also can't go beyond the doughnut's outer crust, 342 00:22:26,333 --> 00:22:28,324 because there we start to put so much pressure 343 00:22:28,333 --> 00:22:29,823 on this extraordinary planet, 344 00:22:29,833 --> 00:22:31,573 causing climate breakdown... 345 00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:34,581 Biodiversity loss... 346 00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:37,615 Air-pollution... 347 00:22:39,083 --> 00:22:40,698 Too much land conversion. 348 00:22:41,625 --> 00:22:44,582 We kick out of kilter this extraordinary living planet 349 00:22:44,583 --> 00:22:46,448 on which all of our well-being depends. 350 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:52,116 Last century's economists didn't see this. 351 00:22:52,125 --> 00:22:54,867 No phase of humanity has encountered this before. 352 00:22:54,875 --> 00:22:57,241 It's our generational challenge. 353 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:58,865 We need new ideas to do this. 354 00:23:01,875 --> 00:23:05,572 The wonderful thing about the microgrids 355 00:23:05,583 --> 00:23:08,871 is that they fit beautifully within the doughnut framework. 356 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,242 The solar energy helps restore the outer boundaries 357 00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:14,740 like climate change... 358 00:23:15,833 --> 00:23:17,243 And air-pollution... 359 00:23:18,750 --> 00:23:20,456 But on the inner boundaries, 360 00:23:20,458 --> 00:23:23,370 more people are pulled into the doughnut 361 00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:26,242 by improving health, with less kerosene use... 362 00:23:27,583 --> 00:23:30,450 Education, by providing light to study... 363 00:23:31,958 --> 00:23:33,243 Income equality, 364 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:35,457 by keeping profits within the local economy... 365 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:38,115 And networks, 366 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:41,197 because the microgrid now interconnects households. 367 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,618 I am going to invent a plane and... 368 00:24:00,625 --> 00:24:02,616 You type in the coordinates where... 369 00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:06,743 What you want it... where you want it to go and... 370 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:09,617 In a split second, you're there. 371 00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:12,332 I think electric cars would help the environment 372 00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:14,619 because that causes less pollution. 373 00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:19,369 And maybe, um, get electric cars if they can, um, 374 00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:21,866 'cause that reduces, like, fossil fuels 375 00:24:21,875 --> 00:24:23,866 and then that also stops global warming. 376 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:25,615 And instead of using cars, 377 00:24:25,625 --> 00:24:27,866 I would like to use rocket boots to go around 378 00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:30,082 and they would be powered by plants. 379 00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:32,870 Oh, that would be so cool. That would be awesome. 380 00:24:32,875 --> 00:24:34,331 And rocket boots, I think, 381 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:37,746 would really cool to see people flying around the city in. 382 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,832 And also I want it to go worldwide 383 00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:41,869 and I want to try and invent them. 384 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:51,456 Damon: So, it's interesting 385 00:24:51,458 --> 00:24:53,494 being in some of these big American cities, 386 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,115 the traffic is just diabolical. 387 00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:56,956 And I can see that it... 388 00:24:56,958 --> 00:24:59,825 You know, I consider myself quite a happy person, you know. 389 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:01,744 I've got not a lot to complain about. 390 00:25:02,875 --> 00:25:04,365 But I'm really... 391 00:25:05,833 --> 00:25:09,451 Feeling a bit antsy in this traffic and, um... 392 00:25:09,458 --> 00:25:10,868 It kind of does that to you. 393 00:25:10,875 --> 00:25:13,867 And I think probably a lot of people 394 00:25:13,875 --> 00:25:15,991 might not put that as a factor 395 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,865 because they've got other things going on in their life, 396 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:19,365 but if you do have things in your life 397 00:25:19,375 --> 00:25:20,865 that are bothering you, 398 00:25:20,875 --> 00:25:22,957 then you throw yourself into this environment... 399 00:25:22,958 --> 00:25:24,619 Things can get a little tense. 400 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,616 And I've been tempted to jump on the horn 401 00:25:26,625 --> 00:25:28,365 and abuse couple of people. 402 00:25:36,375 --> 00:25:38,081 In the us right now, 403 00:25:38,083 --> 00:25:41,871 road vehicles contribute to 20% of emissions. 404 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:48,993 But our environment and sanity will be severely tested 405 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,117 with predictions of an extra one billion cars worldwide 406 00:25:52,125 --> 00:25:53,615 by 2040. 407 00:25:53,625 --> 00:25:54,865 J here in my car 408 00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:56,740 j I feel safest of all 409 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:58,706 j I can lock all my doors... j& 410 00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:02,747 a possible solution could be replacing car ownership 411 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:05,332 with on-demand driverless vehicles. 412 00:26:08,875 --> 00:26:12,367 The same way that we went from owning DVDs or cds 413 00:26:12,375 --> 00:26:13,956 or records or whatever, 414 00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,119 to having all of those on demand - 415 00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:18,332 essentially Netflix and so on - 416 00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,996 the same thing is going to happen with transportation. 417 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,366 Damon: I wasn't sure I'd trust a driverless car 418 00:26:26,375 --> 00:26:28,206 with my daughter, 419 00:26:28,208 --> 00:26:29,869 so I subjected this prototype 420 00:26:29,875 --> 00:26:32,366 to the surprise pedestrian test. 421 00:26:35,083 --> 00:26:36,948 Ah! Yes! 422 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:40,957 Robots - 1, human - 0. 423 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,116 The next test was a little more challenging. 424 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:48,615 Traffic. 425 00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:51,365 When I push this button, 426 00:26:51,375 --> 00:26:53,491 this car will be driving itself. 427 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,365 And, um, wish me luck. 428 00:27:03,833 --> 00:27:05,118 Right. 429 00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:11,447 So, this is my first experience in a driverless vehicle, 430 00:27:11,458 --> 00:27:12,823 and, uh... 431 00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:15,994 I'm a little bit nervous 432 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,991 because that wheel is turning by itself. 433 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,456 Siri, please look after me. 434 00:27:22,833 --> 00:27:25,620 So, yeah, you can see that's our car tracking there, 435 00:27:25,625 --> 00:27:28,492 and the little lidar, the radar on top 436 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,456 is reading out all the information 437 00:27:30,458 --> 00:27:32,870 I think, about 50m ahead of us 438 00:27:32,875 --> 00:27:36,743 and scanning the area and determining what's around us, 439 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:39,241 what other obstacles, what it should look out for - 440 00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:42,617 pedestrians, bike riders, other cars. 441 00:27:42,625 --> 00:27:44,991 So it's constantly ahead of us, predicting. 442 00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:48,491 Tony: Two things are going to happen. 443 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,367 We're all going to have a massive fleet of cars 444 00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:54,367 that are going to pick you up at home, take you to work, 445 00:27:54,375 --> 00:27:56,331 take you to the supermarket and so on, 446 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:57,869 and the other one - 447 00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:01,948 even if you already own a car that you already paid off, 448 00:28:01,958 --> 00:28:05,621 it's going to be four times more expensive 449 00:28:05,625 --> 00:28:07,866 just to own that car 450 00:28:07,875 --> 00:28:10,617 than it is to access transportation as a service, 451 00:28:10,625 --> 00:28:12,490 so, autonomous electric vehicles. 452 00:28:16,583 --> 00:28:19,746 Damon: I do like the freedom of my own car, 453 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:21,615 so the big question is 454 00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,866 are enough of us willing to give that up 455 00:28:23,875 --> 00:28:26,332 and embrace shared transportation? 456 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,490 One of the interesting challenges 457 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,367 about a future of vehicles that involves ridesharing, 458 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:34,582 is that we have all these ideas tied up with owning vehicles 459 00:28:34,583 --> 00:28:36,073 that have very little to do with 460 00:28:36,083 --> 00:28:37,493 getting us from point a to point b, 461 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,207 and all to do with what those things said about us. 462 00:28:40,208 --> 00:28:42,995 So, you know, they became symbols of independence 463 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,365 and freedom. 464 00:28:44,375 --> 00:28:47,822 They became symbols of class and wealth and capital. 465 00:28:47,833 --> 00:28:50,870 Now, the reality is, of course, we haven't had cars forever. 466 00:28:50,875 --> 00:28:52,866 And the notion of cars as status symbols 467 00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:54,365 and signals of independence - 468 00:28:54,375 --> 00:28:56,331 that's 60, 70 years old, at most, 469 00:28:56,333 --> 00:28:58,119 and less than that in most places. 470 00:28:58,125 --> 00:29:02,118 And so the idea that we can uncouple those things 471 00:29:02,125 --> 00:29:03,365 isn't impossible. 472 00:29:03,375 --> 00:29:05,331 And frankly, they only ever got coupled in the first place 473 00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:06,869 because of advertising. 474 00:29:09,625 --> 00:29:13,368 Damon: If we did embrace on-demand transport, 475 00:29:13,375 --> 00:29:17,118 much like we now require fewer cds or DVDs... 476 00:29:19,125 --> 00:29:21,241 We'd also require fewer vehicles... 477 00:29:24,083 --> 00:29:26,369 And almost no parking space. 478 00:29:30,125 --> 00:29:34,494 Tony: Two thirds of la is parking and roads. 479 00:29:35,583 --> 00:29:39,622 You could fit three cities the size of San Francisco 480 00:29:39,625 --> 00:29:42,367 in the empty parking space 481 00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:46,243 left by the autonomous vehicle disruption. 482 00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:50,450 And so, as a society, we need to make decisions. 483 00:29:50,458 --> 00:29:52,744 What do we do with all that parking space 484 00:29:52,750 --> 00:29:54,615 that's going to be vacant? 485 00:29:59,875 --> 00:30:03,242 So, here's what 2040 could look like for my daughter 486 00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:06,083 without an extra billion cars. 487 00:30:14,583 --> 00:30:16,869 As you head off to your first school dance, velvet... 488 00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:18,957 Family hug. Family hug. 489 00:30:18,958 --> 00:30:20,698 It will be nice not having to worry 490 00:30:20,708 --> 00:30:22,448 about your date's driving skills. 491 00:30:24,125 --> 00:30:28,994 Look, dad! A ghost must be driving! Spooky! 492 00:30:33,125 --> 00:30:35,116 I imagine your date to be very kind. 493 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,081 And very impotent. 494 00:30:41,583 --> 00:30:43,574 All the cars that your mum and I ever owned 495 00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:45,244 were stranded assets, 496 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:49,368 meaning that 96% of the time they were parked or unused. 497 00:30:49,375 --> 00:30:50,956 But now, in 2040, 498 00:30:50,958 --> 00:30:54,246 with driver costs gone and the rideshare explosion, 499 00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:56,957 fewer people actually own cars. 500 00:30:56,958 --> 00:31:00,121 They get around in luxurious pods like this 501 00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,990 for next to nothing. 502 00:31:03,458 --> 00:31:06,825 It's just inner cities that are likely to be driverless only. 503 00:31:07,875 --> 00:31:09,866 And we could really fatten the doughnut 504 00:31:09,875 --> 00:31:11,957 if vehicles were community-owned. 505 00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:18,865 But I secretly hope, darling, 506 00:31:18,875 --> 00:31:21,742 that rocket boots girl has achieved her ambition 507 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:24,457 of worldwide domination. 508 00:31:24,458 --> 00:31:26,369 Reporter: So, this is a huge disruption 509 00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:29,082 of a massive part of the labour force. 510 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:32,246 Damon: Inevitably, there'll be debates around this technology. 511 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,332 But if enough of us embrace ridesharing, 512 00:31:36,333 --> 00:31:40,872 we could reclaim our cities for humans instead of vehicles, 513 00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:43,491 and generate millions of new jobs. 514 00:32:00,958 --> 00:32:02,949 Kate: This is big vision. 515 00:32:02,958 --> 00:32:05,370 We just need to have that vision now. 516 00:32:05,375 --> 00:32:07,616 A lot of people want to be working on something 517 00:32:07,625 --> 00:32:09,616 that they can see is actually helping to regenerate 518 00:32:09,625 --> 00:32:12,367 and innovatively recreate the world. 519 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:19,492 Damon: The extra space in our cities could allow the building 520 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,242 of more low-cost sustainable homes. 521 00:32:25,625 --> 00:32:30,449 And we could see the growth of remanufacturing industries, 522 00:32:30,458 --> 00:32:33,450 which might convert existing vehicles to electric. 523 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,117 But most exciting could be the urban food farms 524 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:43,241 that spring up in empty parking lots. 525 00:32:46,125 --> 00:32:48,366 Or inside disused car parks. 526 00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:54,246 And imagine having fresh local food growing on our rooftops. 527 00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:01,493 This would also contribute to a much healthier environment. 528 00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:05,741 Man: It's unbeatable to grow food in your own backyard. 529 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:07,240 It's unbeatable to grow food 530 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:09,081 all through and around your city. 531 00:33:09,083 --> 00:33:12,371 It's unbeatable to grow food on your roof. 532 00:33:12,375 --> 00:33:17,449 Those are the absolute gold standard of emissions. 533 00:33:21,125 --> 00:33:23,957 Damon: One day you will be amazed by the distances 534 00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:25,869 some of our food travelled. 535 00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:30,198 Velvet: Bring up data for 2016. 536 00:33:31,625 --> 00:33:36,073 In 2016, the us was importing the same amount of beef 537 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:37,698 as it was exporting. 538 00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:46,492 Fish caught in Norway was flown to China for filleting. 539 00:33:48,583 --> 00:33:50,824 Then flown back to Norway to be sold. 540 00:33:53,125 --> 00:33:54,740 What were you guys thinking? 541 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:57,240 Well, sometimes we weren't. 542 00:33:58,333 --> 00:33:59,994 But how's this? 543 00:34:01,083 --> 00:34:03,620 If we electrify our transport systems 544 00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:06,241 and frankly, make them far more attractive... 545 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:10,867 A lot more fossil fuels will stay in the ground. 546 00:34:12,125 --> 00:34:13,615 If nobody's going to buy 547 00:34:13,625 --> 00:34:15,741 internal combustion engine petrol cars, 548 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:17,866 nobody's going to buy oil. 549 00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:22,744 What we see is that oil demand is going to peak 550 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:26,413 and it's going to go down dramatically. 551 00:34:26,417 --> 00:34:28,157 And it's never coming back. 552 00:34:30,417 --> 00:34:33,864 Damon: This means areas like the tar sands oil fields 553 00:34:33,875 --> 00:34:36,787 could be magnificently transformed. 554 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:49,659 If you do choose to live in a city, velvet, 555 00:34:49,667 --> 00:34:51,282 I hope it's a bit like this. 556 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:57,912 A city where so many of the public parks, 557 00:34:57,917 --> 00:35:03,116 urban food projects and cleaner transport networks, 558 00:35:03,125 --> 00:35:05,992 all contribute to a healthier environment, 559 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,412 while fostering a greater sense of community.. 560 00:35:10,042 --> 00:35:12,408 And a hell of a lot less road rage. 561 00:35:21,625 --> 00:35:23,115 But the bonus 562 00:35:23,125 --> 00:35:26,288 is that you can now actually hear birds singing 563 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:27,998 in the middle of the city. 564 00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:43,534 As wonderful as this future could be, 565 00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:46,909 I was pretty gobsmacked to learn that vested interests 566 00:35:46,917 --> 00:35:49,909 now spend almost $1 billion a year 567 00:35:49,917 --> 00:35:52,750 preventing us from actually lowering our emissions. 568 00:35:56,417 --> 00:35:58,624 So, the fossil fuel industry 569 00:35:58,625 --> 00:36:00,411 have being doing a magnificent job 570 00:36:00,417 --> 00:36:02,874 at copying the tobacco playbook 571 00:36:02,875 --> 00:36:06,288 in creating doubt and confusion amongst the public. 572 00:36:06,292 --> 00:36:08,658 And I've been following some of their key players, 573 00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:10,749 their sneaky players, online, 574 00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,286 just to try and learn and understand 575 00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:13,782 some of the tactics. 576 00:36:13,792 --> 00:36:15,282 So, one of the things they do 577 00:36:15,292 --> 00:36:16,782 is that they create websites 578 00:36:16,792 --> 00:36:18,999 that sound and look very Sincere, 579 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,911 but are full of misinformation. 580 00:36:20,917 --> 00:36:24,489 You see here the innocent hummingbird, the leaf. 581 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,161 They'll also fund think tanks 582 00:36:26,167 --> 00:36:28,249 that come up with really clever cultural memes 583 00:36:31,417 --> 00:36:33,533 and these are things like, you know, 584 00:36:33,542 --> 00:36:35,248 "climate science isn't settled", 585 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:37,411 which is ripped straight from tobacco. 586 00:36:37,417 --> 00:36:38,907 Or "climate change is a religion". 587 00:36:38,917 --> 00:36:40,657 That's another one. It's very evocative. 588 00:36:40,667 --> 00:36:43,499 They'll also used fake bots or algorithms 589 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,037 that appear to be humans on social media, 590 00:36:46,042 --> 00:36:47,998 and what this does is creates a sense 591 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,912 that they have more support than they actually do. 592 00:36:50,917 --> 00:36:54,364 And this one's pretty key because companies like exxon 593 00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:56,912 will often fund lots of different organisations 594 00:36:56,917 --> 00:36:58,407 to make it look like 595 00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:00,282 there's this wide consensus of climate denial, 596 00:37:00,292 --> 00:37:01,782 whereas in actual fact, 597 00:37:01,792 --> 00:37:03,748 all those different organisations 598 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:06,287 were funded by the same source. 599 00:37:09,917 --> 00:37:13,159 These tactics have focused the conversation 600 00:37:13,167 --> 00:37:15,783 primarily on our emissions, 601 00:37:15,792 --> 00:37:19,410 while obscuring a crucial component of our dilemma. 602 00:37:21,625 --> 00:37:24,287 If we ceased all emissions today, 603 00:37:24,292 --> 00:37:26,157 if we cut emissions to zero, 604 00:37:26,167 --> 00:37:27,782 human emissions to zero, 605 00:37:27,792 --> 00:37:29,373 we would still be toast. 606 00:37:29,375 --> 00:37:31,741 We're still already over a tipping point 607 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:34,412 and on our way to a point of no return. 608 00:37:34,417 --> 00:37:36,408 So we have to reduce the emissions 609 00:37:36,417 --> 00:37:38,499 that we're producing today, 610 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:41,162 and we also have to sequester carbon 611 00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:43,999 and we have to remove excess carbon from the atmosphere 612 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,490 and store it. 613 00:37:50,917 --> 00:37:52,999 With an increased sense of urgency, 614 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,742 I met with Paul hawken, 615 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:58,036 who thankfully isn't afraid of heights. 616 00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:02,739 He's the founder of project drawdown - 617 00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:06,789 the first comprehensive plan to reverse global warming. 618 00:38:08,417 --> 00:38:12,365 If you look at the solutions that we model in drawdown, 619 00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:14,866 they're virtually all regenerative development. 620 00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:17,537 That is to say the earth is better off, 621 00:38:17,542 --> 00:38:20,158 the people are better off, the communities are better off, 622 00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:22,032 the creatures are better off, the birds are better off. 623 00:38:22,042 --> 00:38:24,749 No matter what it is, they're better off for it 624 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:26,411 than had we not done it. 625 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,868 Paul suggested I first explore food and agriculture 626 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,537 for drawdown opportunities. 627 00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:38,784 When you change agriculture practices related to food, 628 00:38:38,792 --> 00:38:40,282 you can do two things. 629 00:38:40,292 --> 00:38:43,739 One is you stop emitting carbon, co2, 630 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:46,913 but you're also sequestering carbon. 631 00:38:46,917 --> 00:38:49,283 So it's one of those sectors... Yeah! 632 00:38:49,292 --> 00:38:51,499 That actually does both - it's a twofer. 633 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,491 Which is... not only does it stop putting it up, 634 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,990 but it actually brings it down. 635 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,616 So you're flipping a whole sector. 636 00:38:59,167 --> 00:39:02,534 Yeah, I think that people should be eating 637 00:39:02,542 --> 00:39:05,659 more fruit and vegetable and less sweet stuff 638 00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:09,910 and so that the sweet stuff should be, um... 639 00:39:09,917 --> 00:39:12,408 Like, you should be rationed on sweet stuff. 640 00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:13,907 When I grow up, 641 00:39:13,917 --> 00:39:17,785 I want it to be national hot dog day every day. 642 00:39:17,792 --> 00:39:21,284 I want to see more trees 643 00:39:21,292 --> 00:39:26,616 and also want to see chocolate raining from the clouds. 644 00:39:28,292 --> 00:39:30,408 Be more healthy. 645 00:39:30,417 --> 00:39:33,409 That's all I really have to say about the food. 646 00:39:33,417 --> 00:39:36,784 Like, I wanted not so much people eating meat 647 00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:38,407 because that's animals. 648 00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:39,907 But I do like bacon. 649 00:39:39,917 --> 00:39:41,373 Bacon's nice. 650 00:39:42,542 --> 00:39:44,032 But... 651 00:39:44,042 --> 00:39:47,739 It still, like, pigs and I have a pig toy. 652 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:50,913 And when I eat bacon, I feel kind of sad. 653 00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:05,412 Man: Soil's almost an unknown universe 654 00:40:05,417 --> 00:40:09,285 in that there's over 6 billion microorganisms 655 00:40:09,292 --> 00:40:11,123 of huge diversity 656 00:40:11,125 --> 00:40:14,413 in a small spoonful of soil, of healthy soil. 657 00:40:14,417 --> 00:40:16,533 Which is really quite amazing. 658 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,908 Don't know who counted them, but someone did. 659 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:21,408 It's a tough job. Yeah. 660 00:40:25,667 --> 00:40:30,991 I was in regional Victoria in Australia to meet col seis, 661 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,412 a champion of regenerative agriculture. 662 00:40:35,042 --> 00:40:37,909 In 1979, we had a major bushfire at home. 663 00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:40,033 Like... a wildfire. 664 00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:42,658 And lost virtually all of our sheep, 665 00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:44,783 which were 3,000 merino sheep. 666 00:40:44,792 --> 00:40:49,411 I went from going ok to being broke overnight. 667 00:40:49,417 --> 00:40:50,907 So I had to work out a way of doing it 668 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:52,407 without spending any money. 669 00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:55,284 And I developed a different way of farming, 670 00:40:55,292 --> 00:40:56,532 totally different, 671 00:40:56,542 --> 00:40:59,409 through 1980s and 1990s, 672 00:40:59,417 --> 00:41:02,159 which turned out to regenerate the land. 673 00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:04,499 Damon: Using a lot less chemicals and inputs 674 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:06,161 than is traditionally used. 675 00:41:06,167 --> 00:41:07,998 That's right. And since I changed - 676 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,410 I actually did the figures on it - 677 00:41:09,417 --> 00:41:13,865 I've saved over $2 million, since I changed. 678 00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:15,615 I don't go where the $2 million went. 679 00:41:20,417 --> 00:41:23,374 Col helps farmers around the world use plants 680 00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:25,661 to pull carbon from the atmosphere 681 00:41:25,667 --> 00:41:27,157 and put it into their soil... 682 00:41:28,792 --> 00:41:31,124 Because our constant ploughing of the soil 683 00:41:31,125 --> 00:41:33,366 has released billions of tonnes of the stuff. 684 00:41:35,417 --> 00:41:38,784 Eric: Over the last 10,000 years of agriculture, 685 00:41:38,792 --> 00:41:40,373 the degradation of soils 686 00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:44,368 has been one of the leading causes of climate change. 687 00:41:44,375 --> 00:41:46,411 It's actually, as of right now, 688 00:41:46,417 --> 00:41:48,373 a larger cause of climate change 689 00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:50,286 than burning fossil fuels. 690 00:41:54,792 --> 00:41:58,159 Damon: I asked col to strike a farming calendar pose 691 00:41:58,167 --> 00:42:00,374 to explain how he brings the carbon back home. 692 00:42:03,417 --> 00:42:06,784 Plants use carbon dioxide and energy from the sun 693 00:42:06,792 --> 00:42:08,623 to create simple sugars. 694 00:42:10,417 --> 00:42:12,999 The plant uses some of these sugars to grow. 695 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,912 The rest is pumped into the soil, through the roots. 696 00:42:17,042 --> 00:42:19,624 These sugars feed soil microbes, 697 00:42:19,625 --> 00:42:21,741 which interact with the plant 698 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:24,742 and the carbon dioxide taken from the atmosphere 699 00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:27,617 is sequestered into the soil as carbon. 700 00:42:34,792 --> 00:42:36,282 - Man: G'day! - Fraser. 701 00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:37,782 - Hey, Damon. - Nice to meet you, mate. 702 00:42:37,792 --> 00:42:39,282 - You too. - How you going? 703 00:42:39,292 --> 00:42:41,499 - Very well. G'day. Col. - G'day. 704 00:42:44,042 --> 00:42:46,374 Woman: We went to take the kids fishing 705 00:42:46,375 --> 00:42:49,492 and we had to go and find worms on the farm 706 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,992 and Fraser was just going from paddock to paddock 707 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,536 trying to find worms. 708 00:42:54,542 --> 00:42:56,282 - There wasn't any. - There was none. 709 00:42:56,292 --> 00:42:57,782 And it ended up... 710 00:42:57,792 --> 00:42:59,657 This fun experience ended up being not so fun 711 00:42:59,667 --> 00:43:01,157 because there was so much frustration 712 00:43:01,167 --> 00:43:03,874 about how come there weren't any worms and... 713 00:43:03,875 --> 00:43:05,615 'Cause healthy soil has worms. 714 00:43:07,375 --> 00:43:09,616 Fraser: We had everything going for our farm 715 00:43:09,625 --> 00:43:12,037 and I didn't feel that it was getting the yields 716 00:43:12,042 --> 00:43:13,748 and getting the results that, you know, 717 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:15,411 I thought were going to be there. 718 00:43:15,417 --> 00:43:18,784 And I tried just throwing more fertiliser at it 719 00:43:18,792 --> 00:43:20,373 and that didn't seem to work. 720 00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:22,036 And so I just had all these questions 721 00:43:22,042 --> 00:43:25,910 around what we were doing and why we were doing it. 722 00:43:28,625 --> 00:43:30,365 So, what's going on here, fellas? 723 00:43:30,375 --> 00:43:33,867 So, this is what we call a chemical summer fallow. 724 00:43:33,875 --> 00:43:34,910 Damon: Yep. 725 00:43:34,917 --> 00:43:36,407 Fraser: Where we control the weeds 726 00:43:36,417 --> 00:43:37,873 with a chemical over summer. 727 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:39,365 So, how does that affect the soil, 728 00:43:39,375 --> 00:43:41,286 like, in terms of the... 729 00:43:41,292 --> 00:43:43,032 Colin: This form of agriculture 730 00:43:43,042 --> 00:43:45,499 really kills the whole soil ecosystem. 731 00:43:47,667 --> 00:43:49,908 Fraser: So, what are we looking at there, col? 732 00:43:49,917 --> 00:43:53,114 Colin: That hard compaction, poor-structured soil 733 00:43:53,125 --> 00:43:55,912 is really not good in agriculture. 734 00:43:55,917 --> 00:43:58,249 Like, if you think about a plant 735 00:43:58,250 --> 00:44:01,788 trying to get through that, it's almost impossible. Um... 736 00:44:01,792 --> 00:44:04,624 The other thing too, water can't get in there. 737 00:44:04,625 --> 00:44:06,911 Damon: To counteract these problems, 738 00:44:06,917 --> 00:44:10,910 col's simple advice to Fraser was to start planting. 739 00:44:13,417 --> 00:44:14,907 Ok, so what we've done here 740 00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:17,533 is planted a mix of different species. 741 00:44:17,542 --> 00:44:19,032 About 80 in total. 742 00:44:20,125 --> 00:44:23,288 They all play a role in the soil health, 743 00:44:23,292 --> 00:44:25,032 with their different roots 744 00:44:25,042 --> 00:44:27,499 and their different root exudates. 745 00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:32,415 So we've got the sunflower here and the sorghum. 746 00:44:32,417 --> 00:44:35,033 - Um, millet. - Damon: Yeah, right. 747 00:44:35,042 --> 00:44:36,407 Down here. 748 00:44:36,417 --> 00:44:38,749 Damon: And all these together means with that variety, 749 00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:40,240 it's making the soil... 750 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:41,740 It's pulling the carbon into the soil 751 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:42,990 and making it healthier. 752 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,661 That's right. Yeah. Exactly. 753 00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:46,532 - Damon: Go, nature! - Fraser: Yeah. 754 00:44:57,750 --> 00:45:01,288 Colin: If we go back even a few thousand years, 755 00:45:01,292 --> 00:45:02,998 all of the grasslands in the world 756 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,538 were dominated by large mobs of grazing animals. 757 00:45:09,042 --> 00:45:14,241 And also, they were kept moving all the time by predators. 758 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:16,036 So the animals - in this case, cattle - 759 00:45:16,042 --> 00:45:18,499 are never kept on the same area at one time. 760 00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:23,283 Damon: By letting the cattle run amok in the crops, 761 00:45:23,292 --> 00:45:25,248 good things happen. 762 00:45:26,292 --> 00:45:29,159 They flatten the field, 763 00:45:29,167 --> 00:45:32,239 they create a utopia for the local insects 764 00:45:32,250 --> 00:45:34,411 which becomes a natural fertiliser, 765 00:45:34,417 --> 00:45:39,286 and crucially, they are fed as nature intended. 766 00:45:42,417 --> 00:45:44,032 Colin: Over the last 50 or 60 years, 767 00:45:44,042 --> 00:45:47,409 we've removed animals like cattle and sheep 768 00:45:47,417 --> 00:45:49,408 from eating their natural food 769 00:45:49,417 --> 00:45:52,124 and put them in feedlots, eating grain. 770 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:53,535 And we should never have done that 771 00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:55,624 because they have never evolved to eat grain. 772 00:45:57,042 --> 00:45:59,909 So what happens is that the cattle are basically sick. 773 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,367 And we are finding out now that the meat from feedlots 774 00:46:04,375 --> 00:46:05,911 is not healthy for us. 775 00:46:05,917 --> 00:46:08,283 It's certainly not healthy for the animals. 776 00:46:08,292 --> 00:46:11,284 And it's something that we should never have done. 777 00:46:14,667 --> 00:46:16,749 Damon: Any discussion around livestock 778 00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:19,162 has to include methane, 779 00:46:19,167 --> 00:46:22,409 which is another damaging greenhouse gas, 780 00:46:22,417 --> 00:46:25,614 quite rudely burped out by the cows. 781 00:46:31,917 --> 00:46:35,284 While some livestock practices offset that damage, 782 00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:38,124 the bad news for the hot dog kid 783 00:46:38,125 --> 00:46:41,162 is that we need to embrace a more plant-rich diet. 784 00:46:42,625 --> 00:46:44,035 And the meat we do eat 785 00:46:44,042 --> 00:46:46,909 should ideally come from regenerative practices 786 00:46:46,917 --> 00:46:48,407 like Fraser's. 787 00:46:49,792 --> 00:46:52,249 Plant-rich diet means that we actually reduce 788 00:46:52,250 --> 00:46:56,744 the amount of protein that we eat in wealthier nations, 789 00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:58,286 because it's too high. 790 00:46:58,292 --> 00:47:00,658 It's 100-110g per day. 791 00:47:00,667 --> 00:47:04,740 What we model is decreasing that to 50-60 g. 792 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,241 The fact is, some people want to eat meat. 793 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:11,037 What meat they eat is critically important. 794 00:47:11,042 --> 00:47:13,749 How it's produced, how it relates to the land 795 00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:15,911 are very, very important. 796 00:47:23,417 --> 00:47:27,160 But as our climate becomes increasingly volatile, 797 00:47:27,167 --> 00:47:30,614 this type of farming has one more crucial advantage. 798 00:47:32,375 --> 00:47:36,994 For every 1% increase in carbon to 30cm, 799 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,413 we increase the water holding capacity of soil 800 00:47:40,417 --> 00:47:43,614 by 166,000 litres per hectare. 801 00:47:43,625 --> 00:47:45,035 On every rainfall event. 802 00:47:48,417 --> 00:47:50,908 When it rains, the soil on the left, 803 00:47:50,917 --> 00:47:53,784 with more carbon and organic matter, 804 00:47:53,792 --> 00:47:57,034 absorbs the water and less runs off the top. 805 00:47:58,792 --> 00:48:01,283 Whereas the chemical-ridden soil on the right 806 00:48:01,292 --> 00:48:06,286 absorbs almost no water, and allows it to run off, 807 00:48:06,292 --> 00:48:08,283 taking the chemicals with it 808 00:48:08,292 --> 00:48:10,658 into nearby rivers and waterways. 809 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,286 Colin: That's the way we can buffer against droughts 810 00:48:15,292 --> 00:48:16,782 and dry seasons. 811 00:48:16,792 --> 00:48:18,282 Grasslands, all around the world, 812 00:48:18,292 --> 00:48:20,999 they virtually had a built-in irrigation system. 813 00:48:22,417 --> 00:48:25,033 Fraser: Really can see the aggregation that's going on 814 00:48:25,042 --> 00:48:26,532 from all these roots 815 00:48:26,542 --> 00:48:28,783 of all the different plants we've been growing in here. 816 00:48:28,792 --> 00:48:30,874 So what we've got going here with this clod 817 00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:33,036 is basically a dry paddock 818 00:48:33,042 --> 00:48:36,785 with, um, not much growing in it, apart from a few weeds. 819 00:48:36,792 --> 00:48:38,498 And here, three months ago, 820 00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:43,244 we planted the multi-species grazing crop, yeah. 821 00:48:44,417 --> 00:48:46,499 Damon: So that's in three months that's happened? 822 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:48,661 Fraser: That's in three-months. It's incredible, isn't it? 823 00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:51,659 That kind of represents big ag, 824 00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:54,158 and this represents mother nature. 825 00:48:54,167 --> 00:48:56,533 And it's pretty obvious who I'd rather 826 00:48:56,542 --> 00:48:58,658 get my source of vegetables from. 827 00:48:58,667 --> 00:49:01,909 Fraser: Well, when we talk about trying to work out 828 00:49:01,917 --> 00:49:04,784 some of the global problems and trying to do it quickly, 829 00:49:04,792 --> 00:49:07,499 well, you can really see the speed that it can happen here. 830 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:08,910 I mean, look at all these roots. 831 00:49:08,917 --> 00:49:11,374 Like, that's all carbon pumped, isn't it? 832 00:49:11,375 --> 00:49:15,163 It is. It really shows that plants, plants and more plants. 833 00:49:15,167 --> 00:49:18,034 In other words, plant diversity, um, 834 00:49:18,042 --> 00:49:19,907 plus grazing animals 835 00:49:19,917 --> 00:49:22,408 will create that and fix our problems. 836 00:49:24,292 --> 00:49:28,160 Eric: People ask me, "well, what can we say to farmers?" 837 00:49:28,167 --> 00:49:30,783 And the answer is, "we can't do without you." 838 00:49:30,792 --> 00:49:33,624 We can't mitigate climate change without agriculture, 839 00:49:33,625 --> 00:49:35,536 so we have to find ways, 840 00:49:39,042 --> 00:49:40,998 instead of part of the problem. 841 00:49:44,042 --> 00:49:45,998 Damon: Fraser will now let his multi-species crop 842 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,661 break down. 843 00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:52,158 He can then plant his commercial crops here 844 00:49:52,167 --> 00:49:55,159 without having to break the soil and release carbon. 845 00:49:56,917 --> 00:49:59,158 But perhaps most importantly, 846 00:49:59,167 --> 00:50:01,533 he can now take the kids fishing. 847 00:50:12,917 --> 00:50:15,784 So, I just bake it for 20 to 30 minutes? 848 00:50:15,792 --> 00:50:17,748 Yes, that's it. You've got it. 849 00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:19,240 And then, once it's done, 850 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:21,366 you just sprinkle the Greens on the top and that's it. 851 00:50:21,375 --> 00:50:22,615 Beautiful. 852 00:50:22,625 --> 00:50:24,911 - Thanks, nan. Love you. - Ok. Bye, darl. 853 00:50:24,917 --> 00:50:26,282 Bye! 854 00:50:26,292 --> 00:50:29,124 Damon: By 2040, my hope, velvet, 855 00:50:29,125 --> 00:50:31,411 is that more people will have an understanding 856 00:50:31,417 --> 00:50:34,784 of how the foods they eat impact our environment. 857 00:50:37,125 --> 00:50:39,116 If this transpires, 858 00:50:39,125 --> 00:50:41,787 your generation are likely to eat a lot less meat 859 00:50:41,792 --> 00:50:43,282 than mine did. 860 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:48,036 There's no doubt we'll continue our obsession 861 00:50:48,042 --> 00:50:49,407 with fad diets. 862 00:50:49,417 --> 00:50:52,159 We find it's the flavour-free diet that's the way to go 863 00:50:52,167 --> 00:50:53,623 because let's face it - 864 00:50:53,625 --> 00:50:55,115 it's the flavour that gets us into trouble. 865 00:50:55,125 --> 00:50:56,911 Isn't that right? 866 00:50:56,917 --> 00:50:58,908 Damon: I'll just love tending our garden. 867 00:50:59,917 --> 00:51:01,407 From an app. 868 00:51:02,917 --> 00:51:05,499 And your mum and I will completely understand 869 00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:07,786 when you start avoiding dinner at our house. 870 00:51:13,042 --> 00:51:15,283 With less global consumption of meat, 871 00:51:15,292 --> 00:51:18,284 aided by some pretty convincing substitutes... 872 00:51:21,250 --> 00:51:23,992 We could see many feedlots close down. 873 00:51:26,542 --> 00:51:29,158 And animals returned to the land 874 00:51:29,167 --> 00:51:31,158 for use in regenerative farming. 875 00:51:36,042 --> 00:51:38,283 But just imagine what we could do 876 00:51:40,917 --> 00:51:44,159 that is currently being used to grow food for animals. 877 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:50,286 This land could transition 878 00:51:50,292 --> 00:51:53,249 to a range of regenerative practices 879 00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:57,664 that drawdown vast amounts of carbon into the soil, 880 00:51:57,667 --> 00:52:00,158 while retaining precious water 881 00:52:00,167 --> 00:52:02,658 and producing nutrient-dense food. 882 00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:13,119 Instead of soy or grains, we could feed the animals grass, 883 00:52:13,125 --> 00:52:16,913 crop residue, or food waste. 884 00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:20,408 This would improve the health of the animals, 885 00:52:20,417 --> 00:52:23,784 the people who choose to eat them 886 00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:25,657 and our environment. 887 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,742 The steep croplands around the world, darling, 888 00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,615 could be used to grow foods 889 00:52:36,625 --> 00:52:39,367 that also draw down huge amounts of carbon. 890 00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:44,913 A practice called agroforestry does this 891 00:52:44,917 --> 00:52:47,784 by simultaneously growing foods like pawpaw, 892 00:52:47,792 --> 00:52:52,286 bananas, coffee, avocados or vegetables, 893 00:52:52,292 --> 00:52:55,784 but crucially, on small parcels of land. 894 00:52:58,417 --> 00:53:01,784 Woman: With highly diversified local food systems, 895 00:53:01,792 --> 00:53:06,991 you have a way of really dramatically decreasing 896 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,790 the scale of land, water, energy needed, 897 00:53:11,792 --> 00:53:13,748 and massively increasing 898 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:15,661 how much you can get from that land. 899 00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:25,158 Industrial ag says, "without us, you're not... 900 00:53:25,167 --> 00:53:26,907 "You're going to starve. You're not going to eat.” 901 00:53:26,917 --> 00:53:29,784 Well, actually between 70% and 80% of the food in the world 902 00:53:29,792 --> 00:53:31,657 is created by small holders. 903 00:53:35,792 --> 00:53:40,365 Industrial ag provides 20% of the food in the world. 904 00:53:40,375 --> 00:53:44,539 Most of that is corn and soy fed to animals. 905 00:53:44,542 --> 00:53:47,409 A lot of that is sugar, which we don't need. 906 00:53:48,667 --> 00:53:52,034 So the idea that big ag is going to save us, 907 00:53:52,042 --> 00:53:54,784 or without which we cannot exist 908 00:53:54,792 --> 00:53:56,532 is absolutely upside down and backwards, 909 00:53:56,542 --> 00:53:58,282 because they produce sickness, 910 00:53:58,292 --> 00:54:00,658 they produce obesity, they produce diabetes. 911 00:54:00,667 --> 00:54:02,282 That's what big ag is producing. 912 00:54:05,417 --> 00:54:06,998 Damon: I hope one day, velvet, 913 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,413 you get to read the story of how we reached this future. 914 00:54:13,625 --> 00:54:15,616 It's about how those who polluted our air 915 00:54:15,625 --> 00:54:17,490 with excess carbon 916 00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:19,161 had to pay a penalty. 917 00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:22,240 And the money raised 918 00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:25,037 paid farmers to clean our air 919 00:54:25,042 --> 00:54:26,657 by putting it back into the soil. 920 00:54:30,375 --> 00:54:32,161 This helped restore the climate... 921 00:54:33,917 --> 00:54:35,623 Biodiversity loss... 922 00:54:36,917 --> 00:54:38,407 And land conversion... 923 00:54:39,417 --> 00:54:41,874 While pulling more people into the doughnut 924 00:54:41,875 --> 00:54:44,787 by saving precious water, 925 00:54:44,792 --> 00:54:47,909 improving the quality of our food, 926 00:54:47,917 --> 00:54:51,114 and in turn improving our health. 927 00:55:04,417 --> 00:55:05,998 It's interesting, making this film, 928 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,911 the more that I'm learning about... 929 00:55:09,417 --> 00:55:12,659 You realise how hard it is to actually do the right thing. 930 00:55:12,667 --> 00:55:16,615 And in a sense, it's tempting to kind of just shut down 931 00:55:16,625 --> 00:55:18,115 and switch off 932 00:55:18,125 --> 00:55:20,411 because, I mean, here I am sitting on an aeroplane 933 00:55:20,417 --> 00:55:23,659 that is spewing out half a tonne of carbon, 934 00:55:23,667 --> 00:55:25,282 making this film, 935 00:55:25,292 --> 00:55:27,157 or getting water in this cup 936 00:55:27,167 --> 00:55:28,907 that's probably going to go straight into the ocean 937 00:55:28,917 --> 00:55:30,623 and hurt a baby turtle, 938 00:55:30,625 --> 00:55:32,616 and I don't want to know that. 939 00:55:32,625 --> 00:55:34,115 And most people don't want to know about that, 940 00:55:34,125 --> 00:55:35,615 so they switch off. 941 00:55:35,625 --> 00:55:39,288 And you can't help but be a hypocrite at the moment 942 00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:43,285 because our entire system is built on and by fossil fuels. 943 00:55:44,375 --> 00:55:45,865 Fossil fuels have done us really well 944 00:55:45,875 --> 00:55:47,240 to get to this point. 945 00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:48,740 There's some great things in the world. 946 00:55:48,750 --> 00:55:50,240 But we can't keep doing what we're doing. 947 00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:51,615 It's actually impossible 948 00:55:51,625 --> 00:55:53,741 to maintain the resources we're using. 949 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:55,741 So we're going to have to transition, 950 00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:57,240 and it's going to be a little bit awkward, 951 00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,241 if we're going to give our kids a better future. 952 00:56:11,875 --> 00:56:14,287 J we are setting sail 953 00:56:15,417 --> 00:56:17,282 j to the place on the map 954 00:56:17,292 --> 00:56:20,659 j from which no-one has ever returned... j 955 00:56:21,917 --> 00:56:24,249 Damon: While storing carbon in our soil 956 00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:27,663 will go a long way to solving our problem, 957 00:56:27,667 --> 00:56:31,239 there is a limit to how much carbon soil can hold. 958 00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:35,242 So we're going to need another leg-up from mother nature. 959 00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,912 Make sure coral looks ok 960 00:56:39,917 --> 00:56:42,909 'cause it normally looks like a rainbow in the sea 961 00:56:42,917 --> 00:56:45,374 with all the fishes, 962 00:56:45,375 --> 00:56:47,616 but sometimes if you litter, 963 00:56:47,625 --> 00:56:50,367 it looks a bit not good. 964 00:56:50,375 --> 00:56:55,415 It looks like... a big, big mess. 965 00:56:56,625 --> 00:56:58,911 At the beach, it would just not be the same 966 00:56:58,917 --> 00:57:00,908 if you can't swim in the water. 967 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,909 And also all the really amazing marine animals 968 00:57:03,917 --> 00:57:06,784 like vaquita, whales, sea fish - 969 00:57:06,792 --> 00:57:09,909 if they were all gone, then it just wouldn't be the same, 970 00:57:09,917 --> 00:57:11,157 the world. 971 00:57:11,167 --> 00:57:14,739 I want the oceans to be cleaner. 972 00:57:18,167 --> 00:57:19,657 Paul: One of the coming attractions 973 00:57:19,667 --> 00:57:21,908 that I think is gonna to have the biggest impact 974 00:57:21,917 --> 00:57:25,660 is what is called marine permaculture. 975 00:57:25,667 --> 00:57:28,124 It's just another way of farming in the ocean, 976 00:57:28,125 --> 00:57:30,616 but this is a more wild farming 977 00:57:30,625 --> 00:57:32,786 because it actually sets up the context 978 00:57:32,792 --> 00:57:35,750 for the oceans to regenerate themselves. 979 00:57:45,292 --> 00:57:47,999 Paul: Dr Brian Von herzen, a physicist, 980 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,490 used to fly to Europe every year 981 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:53,243 and he saw how quickly the Greenland ice sheet was melting 982 00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:55,912 and decided to change his whole life in 2006 983 00:57:55,917 --> 00:57:57,407 to restoring living systems, 984 00:57:57,417 --> 00:57:58,907 and focused on the ocean. 985 00:58:03,167 --> 00:58:05,533 Damon: Brian told me to pack a lunch... 986 00:58:05,542 --> 00:58:07,498 And a sick bag, 987 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,037 as we were spending the day out at sea. 988 00:58:16,625 --> 00:58:18,536 Man: With 93% of global warming 989 00:58:18,542 --> 00:58:20,533 going into the ocean today each year, 990 00:58:20,542 --> 00:58:23,499 the problem is that the waters are getting too warm 991 00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:25,912 and without enough overturning circulation, 992 00:58:25,917 --> 00:58:27,498 and there aren't enough nutrients, 993 00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:30,412 and the result is we lose the life in the ocean. 994 00:58:32,125 --> 00:58:34,912 Damon: Understandably, there has been reluctance 995 00:58:34,917 --> 00:58:36,657 to meddle with our oceans. 996 00:58:37,917 --> 00:58:39,657 But the fact that they are getting warmer, 997 00:58:39,667 --> 00:58:41,749 becoming acidic, 998 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:45,288 and many fish species are now in danger of collapse... 999 00:58:47,125 --> 00:58:49,286 Means that they actually need our help. 1000 00:58:52,417 --> 00:58:55,033 Brian's solution is seaweed. 1001 00:58:56,917 --> 00:58:59,408 So what we do with marine permaculture 1002 00:58:59,417 --> 00:59:02,614 is we restore overturning circulation. 1003 00:59:02,625 --> 00:59:05,742 It's as if your leg was asleep and you lost circulation. 1004 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:07,411 We have to do that with the ocean. 1005 00:59:07,417 --> 00:59:09,908 We've gotta get that overturning circulation 1006 00:59:09,917 --> 00:59:10,906 going again 1007 00:59:10,917 --> 00:59:13,874 to bring the cool waters up with the higher nutrient levels 1008 00:59:13,875 --> 00:59:17,163 that can actually restore conditions for the seaweeds. 1009 00:59:18,917 --> 00:59:20,908 Between Australia and the United States, 1010 00:59:20,917 --> 00:59:24,535 there's 100,000,000 km? Of ocean desert 1011 00:59:24,542 --> 00:59:27,409 that is amenable to marine permaculture. 1012 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:31,788 We can actually restore life in subtropical oceans, 1013 00:59:31,792 --> 00:59:35,785 restore the fish habitat that's needed to restore fisheries. 1014 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,618 Damon: Marine permaculture is a regenerative technology 1015 00:59:41,625 --> 00:59:43,115 that works like this. 1016 00:59:44,375 --> 00:59:46,991 A frame made of recycled material 1017 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,992 becomes a platform for the seaweed to grow on. 1018 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,241 It sits just below the surface 1019 00:59:52,250 --> 00:59:55,742 and sinks lower as the seaweed grows and gets heavier. 1020 00:59:58,125 --> 01:00:01,663 A pump powered simply by the rise and fall of the ocean, 1021 01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:04,784 brings the cold, nutrient-laden waters from below 1022 01:00:04,792 --> 01:00:07,374 and disperses them over the seaweed 1023 01:00:07,375 --> 01:00:09,536 in the upper warmer layer. 1024 01:00:09,542 --> 01:00:11,908 The seaweed can be regularly harvested 1025 01:00:11,917 --> 01:00:13,999 and used for a range of purposes. 1026 01:00:15,375 --> 01:00:19,288 Seaweed is good for food, animal feed, fertiliser, 1027 01:00:19,292 --> 01:00:20,873 fibre and biofuel. 1028 01:00:20,875 --> 01:00:22,911 There's so much we can do with seaweeds. 1029 01:00:30,542 --> 01:00:36,162 So, we're cruising along in this very low-carbon vessel, 1030 01:00:36,167 --> 01:00:37,907 following Brian, 1031 01:00:37,917 --> 01:00:40,408 who's swum down to get the seaweed 1032 01:00:40,417 --> 01:00:42,783 in one of his testing sites here. 1033 01:00:47,667 --> 01:00:49,248 Except he's gone, 1034 01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:52,492 and he's been underwater for about two minutes and, um... 1035 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:53,785 Brian! 1036 01:00:55,792 --> 01:00:57,657 Brian?! 1037 01:00:57,667 --> 01:00:59,498 - Brian: I found it. - You found it. 1038 01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:01,365 - Yeah. - Alright, we'll come to you. 1039 01:01:03,042 --> 01:01:04,532 The permaculture tests 1040 01:01:04,542 --> 01:01:08,034 that Brian and his team have conducted in the south pacific 1041 01:01:08,042 --> 01:01:10,624 have seen marine life return, 1042 01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:14,368 and the seaweed transform the quality of the water itself. 1043 01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,786 Brian: Seaweeds actually draw down 1044 01:01:19,792 --> 01:01:22,499 carbon dioxide from the ocean waters. 1045 01:01:23,875 --> 01:01:26,491 And they restore the alkalinity of the ocean. 1046 01:01:27,792 --> 01:01:31,535 That enables shellfish and other creatures to thrive. 1047 01:01:35,542 --> 01:01:38,284 Damon, I thought we'd try some seaweed salad today. 1048 01:01:38,292 --> 01:01:39,782 Oh. 1049 01:01:42,792 --> 01:01:44,623 Well, the little bursts of gas are good. 1050 01:01:44,625 --> 01:01:46,115 Yeah. Like little poppers. 1051 01:01:49,167 --> 01:01:51,158 Ok. That's actually pretty good. 1052 01:01:51,167 --> 01:01:52,748 Seaweed salad. 1053 01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:55,287 So, what kind of... we're getting omega 3s in here. 1054 01:01:55,292 --> 01:01:56,532 - What kind of... - Oh, yeah. 1055 01:01:56,542 --> 01:01:57,873 What's our source? 1056 01:01:57,875 --> 01:02:00,662 Epa, dha, antioxidants, phytonutrients, 1057 01:02:00,667 --> 01:02:02,282 omega nutrients. 1058 01:02:03,625 --> 01:02:08,369 Damon: But this humble weed has one more heroic trait to offer. 1059 01:02:09,542 --> 01:02:13,034 It could play a profound role in drawing down carbon. 1060 01:02:14,250 --> 01:02:16,161 Well, this is an example of brown seaweed. 1061 01:02:16,167 --> 01:02:20,285 The fastest brown seaweeds will grow half a metre per day. 1062 01:02:20,292 --> 01:02:22,533 Hang on. Half a metre a day? 1063 01:02:22,542 --> 01:02:24,032 Half a metre a day. 1064 01:02:24,042 --> 01:02:25,907 And they'll grow over 50m long. 1065 01:02:25,917 --> 01:02:28,408 Is that one of the fastest growing plants in the world? 1066 01:02:28,417 --> 01:02:31,284 It is the fastest-growing tree on the planet. 1067 01:02:31,292 --> 01:02:33,533 Wow. Ok. So that's why the understanding of... 1068 01:02:33,542 --> 01:02:35,624 That it's going to be pulling carbon out of the atmosphere 1069 01:02:35,625 --> 01:02:37,616 very quickly, because it grows so fast. 1070 01:02:37,625 --> 01:02:41,994 Thousands of tonnes of carbon per square kilometre per year. 1071 01:02:43,417 --> 01:02:44,782 Wow. Ok. 1072 01:02:46,042 --> 01:02:47,873 Win! It's not a weed at all. 1073 01:02:47,875 --> 01:02:50,912 It's food, it's habitat for fish, 1074 01:02:50,917 --> 01:02:52,999 it gives back to the fish ecosystems, 1075 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,490 and we balance carbon. 1076 01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:56,036 We measure the carbon export. 1077 01:02:58,792 --> 01:03:01,624 The testing of large-scale marine permaculture 1078 01:03:01,625 --> 01:03:03,035 is yet to be done. 1079 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:06,491 But the stakes couldn't be any higher 1080 01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:07,990 for getting them underway. 1081 01:03:09,792 --> 01:03:15,287 This is all about restoring the foundation of our civilisation, 1082 01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:17,624 because with climate disruption, 1083 01:03:17,625 --> 01:03:20,287 we'll deplete the soils, we'll deplete the oceans. 1084 01:03:20,292 --> 01:03:22,408 There will be no civilisation left 1085 01:03:22,417 --> 01:03:26,035 because any time you lose that foundation 1086 01:03:26,042 --> 01:03:28,249 of food and the soils and the seas, 1087 01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:29,990 you lose civilisation as well. 1088 01:03:55,625 --> 01:03:59,789 Damon: So, velvet, because the warming will increase 1089 01:03:59,792 --> 01:04:02,408 over the next two decades, 1090 01:04:02,417 --> 01:04:05,159 and sea levels will continue to rise... 1091 01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:12,621 Some countries will need to adapt in new and creative ways. 1092 01:04:19,917 --> 01:04:22,659 But if predictions of severe droughts are realised 1093 01:04:22,667 --> 01:04:25,784 that see shortages of food, 1094 01:04:25,792 --> 01:04:29,410 the potential for unprecedented numbers of refugees 1095 01:04:29,417 --> 01:04:31,783 and civil unrest around the world... 1096 01:04:33,375 --> 01:04:34,865 Is enormous. 1097 01:04:42,375 --> 01:04:46,288 Just imagine large-scale marine permaculture, 1098 01:04:46,292 --> 01:04:48,908 helping to mitigate the severity of such a crisis. 1099 01:04:52,042 --> 01:04:53,907 It could provide an alternative food source 1100 01:04:53,917 --> 01:04:55,407 to the damaged land crops... 1101 01:04:57,250 --> 01:04:59,787 That is rich in protein and other nutrients. 1102 01:05:03,042 --> 01:05:04,532 Kate: Instead of having governments 1103 01:05:04,542 --> 01:05:06,407 that are reacting to disaster, 1104 01:05:06,417 --> 01:05:08,282 we need governments and communities 1105 01:05:08,292 --> 01:05:11,489 and businesses that proactively set a new vision 1106 01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,365 that prevents these disasters, 1107 01:05:13,375 --> 01:05:15,415 that actually takes us off in a different direction. 1108 01:05:18,167 --> 01:05:21,534 Investment in marine permaculture around the world 1109 01:05:21,542 --> 01:05:24,284 could generate countless jobs 1110 01:05:24,292 --> 01:05:26,908 and help us reduce our meat consumption, 1111 01:05:26,917 --> 01:05:29,624 while sequestering staggering amounts of carbon. 1112 01:05:33,542 --> 01:05:38,411 Imagine decommissioned oil rigs converted to house the workers 1113 01:05:38,417 --> 01:05:41,409 and becoming exciting tourist destinations 1114 01:05:41,417 --> 01:05:44,250 for those keen to explore marine life. 1115 01:05:52,792 --> 01:05:55,158 The seaweed could be particularly valuable 1116 01:05:55,167 --> 01:05:59,911 in climate vulnerable areas like the bay of bengal, 1117 01:05:59,917 --> 01:06:03,614 where it could provide food, fertiliser and biofuel. 1118 01:06:05,042 --> 01:06:08,660 Along the coast of Africa, it could provide similar benefits, 1119 01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:11,374 contributing to a thriving local economy. 1120 01:06:17,167 --> 01:06:19,909 Paul: With mechanisms, simple ones, 1121 01:06:19,917 --> 01:06:23,284 you are in fact regenerating the oceans. 1122 01:06:26,250 --> 01:06:27,911 You could feed 10 billion people 1123 01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:30,659 with the protein from marine permaculture alone. 1124 01:06:50,917 --> 01:06:52,623 At this point of the trip, 1125 01:06:52,625 --> 01:06:56,538 I felt for the first time like we genuinely have a chance 1126 01:06:56,542 --> 01:06:58,032 at a better future... 1127 01:06:59,125 --> 01:07:00,786 If we choose to take it. 1128 01:07:06,292 --> 01:07:10,410 But before heading home, there was another subject to address. 1129 01:07:14,542 --> 01:07:17,158 Well, I wish they'd stop killing off animals 1130 01:07:17,167 --> 01:07:19,658 and, well, forests and whatnot. 1131 01:07:21,250 --> 01:07:22,740 That'd be cool. 1132 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:27,789 Probably for people to acknowledge that, like, 1133 01:07:27,792 --> 01:07:29,498 the factories we build 1134 01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:32,913 and, like, they hurt nature sometimes. 1135 01:07:32,917 --> 01:07:35,033 Like, the things that we produce, 1136 01:07:35,042 --> 01:07:39,661 it can, like, hurt the wildlife and it's not good. 1137 01:07:39,667 --> 01:07:41,783 But people just ignore it right now. 1138 01:07:41,792 --> 01:07:45,660 I would like to see everyone using the three rs - 1139 01:07:45,667 --> 01:07:48,158 reduce, reuse and recycle. 1140 01:07:48,167 --> 01:07:51,534 Many people know about it, but don't practice it today. 1141 01:08:03,542 --> 01:08:05,999 Kate: Today's economy, right? 1142 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,786 It gets bigger faster and faster. 1143 01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:11,410 So the economy is doubling in size nearly every 20 years. 1144 01:08:13,292 --> 01:08:16,614 We take earth's materials, turn them into stuff we want, 1145 01:08:16,625 --> 01:08:18,832 we use it for a while and then throw it away. 1146 01:08:18,833 --> 01:08:19,822 Yep. 1147 01:08:19,833 --> 01:08:21,369 And that take, make, use, lose - 1148 01:08:21,375 --> 01:08:23,741 it cuts against the living cycles of the planet, 1149 01:08:23,750 --> 01:08:26,822 causing climate change, causing pollution. 1150 01:08:29,875 --> 01:08:32,366 So we're kicking ourselves out of planetary balance. 1151 01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:38,494 It is difficult to see the impacts 1152 01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:41,617 of our individual resource use on the broader environment. 1153 01:08:44,375 --> 01:08:48,072 But our survival could depend on us making that connection. 1154 01:08:50,625 --> 01:08:54,493 For greater than 99.9% of our evolution, 1155 01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:57,492 human beings lived in this very intimate association 1156 01:08:57,500 --> 01:08:59,331 with the natural world. 1157 01:08:59,333 --> 01:09:03,076 The decisions we made on a daily basis as individuals 1158 01:09:03,083 --> 01:09:05,244 within the context of communities, 1159 01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:07,582 they were informed by this immediate feedback 1160 01:09:07,583 --> 01:09:09,869 we got from the world around us. 1161 01:09:09,875 --> 01:09:13,367 From the sun, from the water that was falling on us. 1162 01:09:13,375 --> 01:09:15,741 And you fast forward to this little blip of time 1163 01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:18,366 that we're in right now, and, you know, 1164 01:09:18,375 --> 01:09:20,616 we're completely and totally alienated from nature. 1165 01:09:20,625 --> 01:09:22,115 We've lost that connection. 1166 01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:28,617 I've come to the town of oberlin in Ohio, 1167 01:09:28,625 --> 01:09:30,240 where John and his team 1168 01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:32,616 have come up with a quite brilliant way 1169 01:09:32,625 --> 01:09:36,072 to raise awareness of their community's resource use. 1170 01:09:39,083 --> 01:09:40,823 The environmental dashboard 1171 01:09:40,833 --> 01:09:42,744 was really kind of built around the science 1172 01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:44,866 and putting people and humans in connection with 1173 01:09:44,875 --> 01:09:46,991 how they're using their natural resources. 1174 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,740 And so what this does 1175 01:09:48,750 --> 01:09:52,993 is it gives a visual representation of the usage. 1176 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,491 And they put it into the schools 1177 01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,367 and so it's really gotten a lot more into the community. 1178 01:09:58,375 --> 01:10:02,368 And the teachers are utilising it in their lessons. 1179 01:10:02,375 --> 01:10:04,081 I want you to pay close attention 1180 01:10:04,083 --> 01:10:06,495 to the squirrel on the right side. 1181 01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:08,240 And watch what happens. 1182 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:13,825 As it goes down, he gets sadder and sadder and starts to cry. 1183 01:10:13,833 --> 01:10:16,245 Teacher: Why do you think the squirrel got happier or sadder? 1184 01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:17,740 I noticed that too. 1185 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:19,240 Well, probably because we're using 1186 01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:21,115 a lot of electricity at that point. 1187 01:10:21,125 --> 01:10:23,081 More than we regularly used. 1188 01:10:23,083 --> 01:10:24,573 John: We did a controlled study 1189 01:10:24,583 --> 01:10:26,574 where we have another school system 1190 01:10:26,583 --> 01:10:28,699 very similar to oberlin's school systems 1191 01:10:28,708 --> 01:10:30,244 in a different area of Ohio. 1192 01:10:30,250 --> 01:10:32,366 They've got the same curriculum as we do, 1193 01:10:32,375 --> 01:10:33,865 but they don't have dashboard. 1194 01:10:33,875 --> 01:10:36,742 We found as a result of exposure, 1195 01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:39,617 if you ask them about electricity use, 1196 01:10:39,625 --> 01:10:42,367 they start talking about emotions. 1197 01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:44,991 And when you compare students in our school 1198 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,581 with this other school, 1199 01:10:46,583 --> 01:10:48,824 they also have more of a community response 1200 01:10:48,833 --> 01:10:52,121 when they talk about what needs to be done about energy use. 1201 01:10:52,125 --> 01:10:53,990 They use the word 'we'. 1202 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,242 And in the other school system, they use the word 't'. 1203 01:10:57,250 --> 01:10:59,366 So we've seen real change 1204 01:10:59,375 --> 01:11:03,323 as a result of this technology in the school. 1205 01:11:06,750 --> 01:11:09,822 Damon: What is most exciting about this idea 1206 01:11:09,833 --> 01:11:11,869 is that the dashboards could reconnect us 1207 01:11:11,875 --> 01:11:13,456 to a range of resources... 1208 01:11:15,250 --> 01:11:17,115 And influence our behaviour. 1209 01:11:20,625 --> 01:11:22,581 Sharon: It's a way to really engage the community 1210 01:11:22,583 --> 01:11:24,119 in this discussion, 1211 01:11:24,125 --> 01:11:27,868 regardless of what race, what education, economic level, 1212 01:11:27,875 --> 01:11:29,740 in this discussion on sustainability 1213 01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:31,240 and the environment. 1214 01:11:36,958 --> 01:11:39,370 But awareness of our resource use 1215 01:11:39,375 --> 01:11:41,741 is just one piece of a complicated puzzle. 1216 01:11:43,333 --> 01:11:44,823 Another solution 1217 01:11:44,833 --> 01:11:47,370 that could have a huge impact on our dilemma 1218 01:11:47,375 --> 01:11:49,991 caught me completely off-guard. 1219 01:11:53,333 --> 01:11:57,622 Paul: Probably our biggest surprise was educating girls 1220 01:11:57,625 --> 01:12:00,241 and family planning. 1221 01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:01,865 You combine these two together, 1222 01:12:01,875 --> 01:12:04,366 the number one solution to reversing global warming 1223 01:12:04,375 --> 01:12:06,206 is the empowerment of girls and women. 1224 01:12:06,208 --> 01:12:07,698 Damon: Wow. 1225 01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:18,947 Damon: So, our daughter starts school next year 1226 01:12:18,958 --> 01:12:21,370 and as an Australian, 1227 01:12:21,375 --> 01:12:24,117 I completely take for granted 1228 01:12:24,125 --> 01:12:27,572 that she will get to complete her education. 1229 01:12:27,583 --> 01:12:29,574 And what I'm just learning here 1230 01:12:29,583 --> 01:12:33,075 is that there are 65 million girls around the world 1231 01:12:33,083 --> 01:12:34,619 that don't get that opportunity. 1232 01:12:35,833 --> 01:12:37,323 And there's a host of reasons for that. 1233 01:12:37,333 --> 01:12:39,870 Some are put to work to support families 1234 01:12:39,875 --> 01:12:41,365 or they're married off. 1235 01:12:41,375 --> 01:12:42,865 But on average, 1236 01:12:42,875 --> 01:12:45,833 those girls will have five or more children. 1237 01:12:48,583 --> 01:12:50,244 Woman: So we found that across the board, 1238 01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:51,740 and this isn't just countries 1239 01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:53,240 where there might be high rates of poverty. 1240 01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:54,615 Even wealthier countries, 1241 01:12:54,625 --> 01:12:57,617 we know that when girls stay in school for longer 1242 01:12:57,625 --> 01:13:00,742 and they have access to good reproductive health services, 1243 01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:03,332 as well as decent work opportunities, 1244 01:13:03,333 --> 01:13:05,995 that women will tend to delay having children 1245 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,490 until they're ready, 1246 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:09,957 and then they choose to have fewer children from then on. 1247 01:13:09,958 --> 01:13:11,619 So, what this does as a collective, 1248 01:13:11,625 --> 01:13:14,332 is it slows down the population growth rate, 1249 01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:15,869 which means that there's less pressure 1250 01:13:15,875 --> 01:13:19,072 and competition for access to a whole range of resources, 1251 01:13:19,083 --> 01:13:21,244 whether it's food or water or land. 1252 01:13:22,875 --> 01:13:24,957 Their children tend to stay in school longer as well 1253 01:13:24,958 --> 01:13:28,746 and, over time, they break that cycle of poverty. 1254 01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:34,957 So it's a form of family planning, 1255 01:13:34,958 --> 01:13:36,494 but it's not coercive. 1256 01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:37,956 It's not control. 1257 01:13:37,958 --> 01:13:41,871 It's just empowering girls to be who they want to be 1258 01:13:41,875 --> 01:13:44,947 and you have these incredible benefits. 1259 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:55,448 One child, one teacher, 1260 01:13:55,458 --> 01:13:59,121 one book and one pen 1261 01:13:59,125 --> 01:14:00,865 can change the world. 1262 01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:24,994 Damon: So this could be a pleasant afternoon 1263 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,616 in a standard city of 2040. 1264 01:14:34,583 --> 01:14:36,448 Freed-up space has encouraged 1265 01:14:36,458 --> 01:14:39,245 a range of new outdoor activities. 1266 01:14:43,375 --> 01:14:47,323 Imagine, velvet, you and your cool group of friends 1267 01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:48,948 have met for a picnic. 1268 01:14:50,625 --> 01:14:52,115 Although it is unlikely 1269 01:14:52,125 --> 01:14:54,366 that Princess Elsa will still be part of your crew. 1270 01:14:58,750 --> 01:15:03,323 My hope is that we are all using resources more wisely 1271 01:15:03,333 --> 01:15:06,120 and some of the clever innovations that exist today... 1272 01:15:06,125 --> 01:15:07,615 Man: Selfiel 1273 01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:09,490 except for this drone phone that I did make up 1274 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:10,990 to obliterate selfie sticks... 1275 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,615 Man: Home! 1276 01:15:12,625 --> 01:15:14,616 Have been widely adopted. 1277 01:15:17,250 --> 01:15:22,324 Some materials are grown or made from organic matter. 1278 01:15:27,875 --> 01:15:32,244 While other materials have been recycled or break down rapidly. 1279 01:15:35,333 --> 01:15:36,869 And wouldn't it be terrific 1280 01:15:36,875 --> 01:15:38,831 if we have not only implemented the smart ways 1281 01:15:38,833 --> 01:15:41,370 to deal with the billions of coffee cups 1282 01:15:41,375 --> 01:15:43,081 we send to landfill each year... 1283 01:15:45,125 --> 01:15:46,740 But each city of the world 1284 01:15:46,750 --> 01:15:48,991 has followed the lead of Stockholm, 1285 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,366 who collect their residents' food waste... 1286 01:15:53,625 --> 01:15:56,617 Extract the methane to power their local vehicles... 1287 01:15:58,250 --> 01:16:00,582 And give the leftovers to farmers 1288 01:16:00,583 --> 01:16:03,370 to use as a natural fertiliser for their soils. 1289 01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:08,492 Well played, Sweden. Well played. 1290 01:16:12,125 --> 01:16:14,741 These behaviour changes in our resource use 1291 01:16:14,750 --> 01:16:16,706 could be reflected on dashboards 1292 01:16:16,708 --> 01:16:18,869 throughout our cities, 1293 01:16:18,875 --> 01:16:20,615 where there used to be ads. 1294 01:16:22,833 --> 01:16:25,370 Even encouraging some healthy competition. 1295 01:16:32,375 --> 01:16:34,331 But in this 2040, 1296 01:16:34,333 --> 01:16:36,995 my greatest hope 1297 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,366 is that girls across the globe 1298 01:16:39,375 --> 01:16:42,742 now have access to the same educational opportunities 1299 01:16:42,750 --> 01:16:44,866 as you and your friends. 1300 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,366 The cascading benefits of this 1301 01:17:02,375 --> 01:17:06,618 could be greater than anything else I have discovered. 1302 01:18:04,958 --> 01:18:08,997 So, velvet, this was my story 1303 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,072 of a future I hope you get to experience. 1304 01:18:13,333 --> 01:18:17,246 Your story and the one that transpires 1305 01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:18,865 may be completely different. 1306 01:18:20,125 --> 01:18:22,081 But what I now understand 1307 01:18:22,083 --> 01:18:24,495 is that not only are there so many people 1308 01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,367 who want to take part in telling a new story... 1309 01:18:29,083 --> 01:18:32,826 But we have everything we need right now 1310 01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:34,619 to make it happen. 1311 01:18:37,875 --> 01:18:41,743 Helena: When you go beyond the dominant media discourse 1312 01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:43,991 and get closer to the ground, 1313 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,743 you will see, everywhere you look, 1314 01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:50,116 incredible reasons for hope. 1315 01:19:00,250 --> 01:19:02,115 Over the next few years, 1316 01:19:02,125 --> 01:19:04,616 you may notice less red meat for dinner... 1317 01:19:06,833 --> 01:19:08,619 More trips to the compost bin... 1318 01:19:11,458 --> 01:19:13,119 Better search engines... 1319 01:19:16,333 --> 01:19:19,496 And potentially a new dashboard in your classroom. 1320 01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:27,324 If enough of us make these sorts of small changes, 1321 01:19:27,333 --> 01:19:30,120 when combined, they will make a difference. 1322 01:19:31,875 --> 01:19:33,991 Big banks continue to take a hit 1323 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,197 as the public shifts its money away from organisations 1324 01:19:37,208 --> 01:19:39,119 that support fossil fuels. 1325 01:19:41,083 --> 01:19:44,120 But of equal importance is strong leadership. 1326 01:19:46,750 --> 01:19:49,867 Wouldn't it be terrific if new leaders emerge 1327 01:19:49,875 --> 01:19:52,082 who can navigate us to a better 20407? 1328 01:19:55,875 --> 01:19:58,867 And just imagine if they used the doughnut framework 1329 01:19:58,875 --> 01:20:00,581 to create the new story... 1330 01:20:01,875 --> 01:20:03,991 Coupled with more and more people 1331 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,241 finding a defining role within it. 1332 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:11,742 What we can do is see where you get lit up 1333 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:13,456 and maybe it's girls' education - 1334 01:20:13,458 --> 01:20:14,994 "wow. I had no idea!" 1335 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,332 Or it can be food or it can be farming or it could be energy, 1336 01:20:18,333 --> 01:20:20,449 it could be housing, transport. 1337 01:20:20,458 --> 01:20:22,369 I mean, there's so many areas 1338 01:20:22,375 --> 01:20:25,993 where you actually probably do have influence 1339 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,991 where you are working, 1340 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,241 where you can affect change 1341 01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:32,741 in a way that actually is demonstrable 1342 01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:34,991 and meaningful to you and others. 1343 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,322 And it just unleashes the power of innovation 1344 01:20:43,333 --> 01:20:47,372 and imagination and creativity that's within all people. 1345 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,116 Damon: My hope for you, darling, 1346 01:20:57,125 --> 01:20:59,616 is that sometime in 2040 1347 01:20:59,625 --> 01:21:01,240 there's a day 1348 01:21:01,250 --> 01:21:03,992 when the greenhouse gases in our atmosphere 1349 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,743 stop increasing and begin to come down. 1350 01:21:09,458 --> 01:21:11,949 And the solutions that achieve this 1351 01:21:11,958 --> 01:21:14,370 benefit a wide range of people. 1352 01:21:19,625 --> 01:21:23,322 To celebrate, there are parties across the globe 1353 01:21:23,333 --> 01:21:25,494 for you and your generation. 1354 01:21:26,875 --> 01:21:28,456 The regeneration. 1355 01:22:10,083 --> 01:22:13,996 When I grow up, I want homeless people to have their own homes 1356 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,366 with their own money to buy their own food 1357 01:22:16,375 --> 01:22:17,865 and have their own jobs. 1358 01:22:18,958 --> 01:22:22,450 Well, I'd like it to be human instinct 1359 01:22:22,458 --> 01:22:25,996 to just look after the world and to care for the world. 1360 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,332 I would like to see everybody have equal rights 1361 01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:30,244 and the same living opportunities. 1362 01:22:31,250 --> 01:22:33,741 I just want the future to be good. 1363 01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:44,956 Dadda! 1364 01:22:55,625 --> 01:22:57,115 Damon: So... 1365 01:22:58,875 --> 01:23:00,615 What's your 20407? 1366 01:25:11,833 --> 01:25:15,826 Child: I want to see clean air for more people to breathe 1367 01:25:15,833 --> 01:25:17,619 and clean air, so that the trees 1368 01:25:17,625 --> 01:25:21,823 don't have to take the smoke into their leaves and die. 1369 01:25:24,375 --> 01:25:28,243 Child: I also hope that we'll be able to solve world hunger, 1370 01:25:28,250 --> 01:25:30,366 'cause a lot of people are going hungry. 1371 01:25:31,375 --> 01:25:33,366 Child: At the moment, the ice caps are melting 1372 01:25:33,375 --> 01:25:35,491 because of all the greenhouse gases. 1373 01:25:37,125 --> 01:25:39,867 Woman: [I the earth speaks loud and clear 1374 01:25:39,875 --> 01:25:42,832 j the time to act is here 1375 01:25:42,833 --> 01:25:44,243 child: I have want to make sure 1376 01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:45,990 there's no pollution in the ocean. 1377 01:25:49,125 --> 01:25:51,616 Woman: & tomorrow's become today 1378 01:25:51,625 --> 01:25:55,072 j it's too late to turn away 1379 01:25:56,125 --> 01:26:00,323 child: I want to see fresh air, fresh water, no pollution. 1380 01:26:00,333 --> 01:26:03,450 Because that will kill animals and I want no animals to die. 1381 01:26:05,125 --> 01:26:07,957 Child: I'd like it to be human instinct 1382 01:26:07,958 --> 01:26:12,122 to just look after the world and to care for the world. 1383 01:26:12,125 --> 01:26:13,865 Child: I would like to see a world 1384 01:26:13,875 --> 01:26:17,117 where people live in peace, Harmony and happiness 1385 01:26:17,125 --> 01:26:20,367 and not a world where people live in fear. 1386 01:26:20,375 --> 01:26:21,990 Child: I don't think we should use guns 1387 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,615 and force each other around. 1388 01:26:24,875 --> 01:26:27,867 Woman: J take time to count the cost 1389 01:26:27,875 --> 01:26:30,457 j the creatures we have lost 1390 01:26:36,875 --> 01:26:39,617 Woman: J you've got something to say 1391 01:26:39,625 --> 01:26:43,243 j so please don't turn away 1392 01:26:43,250 --> 01:26:46,868 child: In the future, I'd like to see more beautiful things 1393 01:26:46,875 --> 01:26:49,457 like flowers, more trees. 1394 01:26:49,458 --> 01:26:50,948 Child: Cleaner water. 1395 01:26:50,958 --> 01:26:52,368 Child: Be respectful to earth. 1396 01:26:52,375 --> 01:26:53,990 Child: Less global warming. 1397 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,948 Child: We could stop littering and make sure coral looks ok 1398 01:26:57,958 --> 01:27:00,950 'cause it normally looks like a rainbow in the sea. 1399 01:27:00,958 --> 01:27:03,745 Woman: J you've got something to say 1400 01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:06,457 j so please don't turn away 1401 01:27:06,458 --> 01:27:08,244 child: And also, I'd like my kids 1402 01:27:08,250 --> 01:27:12,072 to be able to swim in fresh water. 1403 01:27:13,083 --> 01:27:15,825 Woman: J you've got something to say 1404 01:27:15,833 --> 01:27:19,371 j so please don't turn away 1405 01:27:19,375 --> 01:27:21,115 child: A lot more inventions. 1406 01:27:21,125 --> 01:27:22,740 Child: Electric cars. 1407 01:27:22,750 --> 01:27:24,832 Child: Take transportation. 1408 01:27:24,833 --> 01:27:27,700 Woman: J you've got something to say 1409 01:27:27,708 --> 01:27:31,576 j so please don't turn away 1410 01:27:52,625 --> 01:27:55,457 Child: If people keep doing what they're doing now, 1411 01:27:55,458 --> 01:27:58,245 the world won't be a very good place. 1412 01:27:58,250 --> 01:28:00,957 Woman: J you've got something to say 1413 01:28:00,958 --> 01:28:04,496 j so please don't turn away 1414 01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:06,866 j the future 1415 01:28:06,875 --> 01:28:08,331 child: I would also like 1416 01:28:08,333 --> 01:28:10,870 if money was more evenly distributed. 1417 01:28:10,875 --> 01:28:13,241 Child: I would like to see everybody have equal rights 1418 01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:15,332 and the same living opportunities. 1419 01:28:15,333 --> 01:28:18,075 Child: For the government to have done something 1420 01:28:18,083 --> 01:28:20,745 on global warming and pollution. 1421 01:28:25,375 --> 01:28:28,572 I want people to treat each other better. 1422 01:28:29,875 --> 01:28:33,743 Child: J please don't pollute the earth. 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