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(Sounds of the rainforest)

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(Heavy panting)

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(Desperate breaths)

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(Headlong screaming)

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(Loud Chinese gong)

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(Daytime forest sounds)

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(Haunting Chinese gongs)

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(Loud flapping wings)

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(Radio) A two-day police
search has ended with the

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discovery of a man's body
at the bottom of a cliff

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on one of the islands remote beaches.

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Authorities have not
released the man's name

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but it is believed, he was a
detainee in the offshore facility

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on Christmas Island, for
more than five years.

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The department of border control
says service providers staff

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have reported what they called,
an illegal maritime arrival

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escaping the centre early
on Saturday morning.

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The department confirmed the
man's death on Sunday evening

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and said the matter is now being
investigated by the Coroner.

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Reporting for Nation Australian radio.

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(Poh Lin) - The sand that
we use in the boxes…

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it's what we consider to be the
smallest particles of earth.

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You imagine that every
grain of sand that we see

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you know, used to be part of
rocks, mountains, formations

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and now they're down
into their finest form.

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- How does the sand feel,
is it cool or warm?

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Yeah?

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I think it's, it's, it's, like cold.

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- Cold. Yeah.

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- Does it feel soft or hard or sharp or

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gentle?

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It feels…

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(Rough sand rubbing)

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I like the sound, you know.

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- The sound

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Yeah, because I guess the sound

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you know it reminds me

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of the waves.

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- Hmmm
Yeah.

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I think.

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(Rustling of the sand)

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- Go with your feeling.

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- Go with your feeling.

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- and that doesn't mean
you have to keep moving.

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- If you feel like that's
enough, then that's enough.

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- But if there's a another feeling like
that you're drawn to, try to follow it.

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(Models being picked up and replaced)

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- Hmm.

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- What do you notice as
you look at your picture?

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Hmm.

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- What do you notice?

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I think this is the life
that we left behind.

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- Hmm.

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- When you look at this
picture, all of it.

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- Does it feel complete for you?

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- Or is there something missing
or is something in the wrong place.

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- Have a good look.

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(Heavy sigh)

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(Heavy rattle)

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(Sounds of the rainforest)

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(Discordant tones join the
forest sounds)

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(Discordant music becomes as
loud as the rainforest)

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(Crab rustles vegetation)

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(Ranger) - Park Space, this is Parks Two.
Do you receive?

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(CB Radio) Hey Parks Two, do you copy?

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(Ranger) - Can you give us an
update at Ethel beach, mate?

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(CB Radio) Inaudible

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(Ranger) - Alright thank you.

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On your way back can you do the red sign

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and just put on Ethel is closed.
Thank you.

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(CB Radio) Copy that.

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(Ranger) Wow.

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(Ranger Trainee) - Mama crabs.

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Yeah mama alright.

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You can tell like.

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This one here carries a lot
more than the other ones.

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Come here.

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- They're so much smaller.

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Smaller, but see how big they are?

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Yeah, I say another day or two…
tomorrow.

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Look at this mom as well.

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You see they can't cross the road.

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Umm.

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We need to find something
so that they can cross.

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Maybe if we look around for
some Timber or whatever.

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Ahh, so they can cross across it.

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So, make a bridge.
Make a bridge for them.

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Otherwise they're not
going to get across.

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Watch out crabby.

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Just put it anywhere.

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We're making a bridge for them.

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(Ranger Trainee) Oh no. They're so
fast when they're little.

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- Yeah.

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(Ranger) - We just,
as much as we want to do

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we're just helping them out that's all.

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(Child, Albertine, waking up)

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Poppy must be tired
she's still asleep.

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(Arthur) Yeah.

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Good morning.

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(Albertine) - Look at the mommy.

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- Mama, look at the mummy.

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Hmmm.

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- Look.

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- Mummy.

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(Poh Lin) - What's the mummy doing?

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Working.

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- Working.

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Yep.

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- Just like your mommy.

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I think Papa's coming.

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Quick.

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(Poppy) Why?

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He won't see us.

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(Poppy laughing)

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(Poh Lin) Oh no, my foots out the bottom,
ahhh.

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(Poppy) Just like me.

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(Poh Lin) I can't get my foot in.

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(Inside car)

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(Poppy) 'We can turn there.'

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(Poh Lin) 'We can't camp next
to the Detention Center.'

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(Poppy) 'Why?'

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(Poh Lin) 'We're not allowed to.'

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(Poppy) 'Oh.'
(Poh Lin) 'Yeah.'

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(Poppy) 'Why?'

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'The Detention Centre has
people that guard the gates

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because people that are staying in there
are not allowed to come out.'

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(Poppy) 'They can't come out.'

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(Poh Lin) 'No.
Not unless the guards say they can.'

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(Poppy) 'Oh.'

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(Poppy) 'How minutes you can stay?'

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(Poh Lin) 'What do you mean?'

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(Poppy) 'How many minutes?'

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(Poh Lin) 'Can the people stay?

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Sometimes they stay for
a couple of months.

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Other times, for years.'

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(Poppy) 'Years?'
(Poh Lin) 'Yeah.'

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(Poh Lin) Good thing we wore jeans.

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(Poppy) Yep.

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(Poh Lin) Let's hop on the mountain.
See if we can find any pumpkins, Alby.

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(Poh Lin) - What's happened to
the world-famous pumpkin hunter?

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(Arthur) - Just too early for them.

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(Poh Lin) - No there's one hiding here.
I'm sure of it.

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(Arthur)

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(Poppy)

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(Arthur)

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(Poh Lin) - Very gently and slowly Alby.

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(Poppy)

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(Poh Lin) - Do you know this could be almost
70 years old this crab.

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- It's like your granddad or your grandma.

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(Poh Lin) - Come on girls, let's go.

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(Poh Lin) Yeah, but we haven't
had dinner yet darling.

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(Poh Lin) Can you imagine what these robber
crabs have seen in their lifetime.

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(Poppy) Nope. Humans?

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(Poh Lin) Yeah, they saw the first people
that arrived on the island.

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Well, if they're up to 100 years old,
they'd have seen the first people.

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(Crab loudly rustles vegetation)

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(Poh Lin) 'When you put your hands in the sand'
it's to follow what feels right

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and to keep going with what feels good.

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If something doesn't feel okay
that you stop for yourself.

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You don't wait for me to stop you.
Yeah.

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- Okay.
Does that make sense?

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- Yep.
Yep.

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So, any questions so far.

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(Refugee) - What sort of sand it is?
(Poh Lin) - This is sand from the beach.

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(Refugee) - Awesome.
(Poh Lin) - Yeah, sand that I collected.

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- I don't know if you've ever been,
out on Christmas Island.

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- But this is from Muriel Beach.
Have you been to Muriel beach before?

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No.
- No, it's a very very small Beach

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and you can only get to it when
the tide is out, when the water is out.

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Ahh okay, is this in Christmas
Island, Muriel beach?

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- Yeah, yeah.
Yeah…

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- So I collect it there,
I wash it and, prepare it for the tray.

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(Refugee) - Hmmm.

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- Ok it's

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like, in a, peaceful country.

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- So there's no fight.

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- Everything is okay and

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the community live there.

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They're secure and the country is secure.
Hmmm.

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They can have this nature,
grain and all the time

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because, in this country no one had a

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like no other problems, security problems.

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That's why it's nice and beautiful
grew up every day improving.

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But in a country is all the time fight
like my country.

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I don't remember one day
of peace in my country

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every day everything happening.

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- You don't remember one day
No.

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- Of Peace

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Like, you know, every night news is

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not good.

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Like every day innocent people get killed.

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And also the country goes like this

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no nature like

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it's all sand and the buildings destroyed
and you know.

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So.

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The difference between this and this is

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too much.

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Yeah.

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It's really hard for me, like

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I never been away,
one lunch or…

201
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breakfast or dinner.

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I always, always at home, around family

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eat together, and you know.

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But now it's like
it's like almost, nearly four years.

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Like

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like I didn't celebrate anything with them.

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It's a bit hard.

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(Plays with sand)

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Yeah, but it's good.
I've got friends now.

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Keep me

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in touch and, spend time.

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00:23:58,921 --> 00:24:00,361
Yeah.

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00:24:02,601 --> 00:24:07,641
- I can just hear how precious,
your family are to you.

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Hello.
(Immigration Officer) - Detention ops.

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00:24:35,321 --> 00:24:37,041
Oh hello, it's umm, Poh Lin here.

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00:24:37,321 --> 00:24:40,801
I'm one of the torture and trauma counsellors
from the community hospital.

217
00:24:41,081 --> 00:24:43,961
How are you today?
- Good thanks, how are you?

218
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Not too bad.

219
00:24:45,921 --> 00:24:50,681
I'm just calling we had
some appointments for 10:30

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but, it's now 10 to 11, and
there's no sign of them.

221
00:24:54,361 --> 00:24:58,761
I just wondered if you could
check on that for us.

222
00:24:59,041 --> 00:25:01,041
- Err yep, just a moment.

223
00:25:01,321 --> 00:25:03,441
Okay, thanks.

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00:25:04,201 --> 00:25:07,441
(Officer uses computer)

225
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:11,481
- Okay
Errrr…

226
00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:15,121
No, there's no one listed
here for that time sorry.

227
00:25:15,401 --> 00:25:16,881
No appointments?

228
00:25:17,161 --> 00:25:18,561
- No appointments.

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00:25:18,841 --> 00:25:20,361
Right, ummm.

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(Mouse clicks)

231
00:25:23,081 --> 00:25:26,761
Well we've definitely sent
through the, the booking request

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and we had people, yesterday afternoon.

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So I'm not quite sure why, that's happening

234
00:25:32,641 --> 00:25:34,401
are they, are they on island still

235
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are you able to check that please.

236
00:25:37,041 --> 00:25:40,001
- Ah sorry no, I'm not able to check that.

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But if you could just let us
know if they're on island or not

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so we can follow up.

239
00:25:45,281 --> 00:25:48,281
- I'm, I'm not actually allowed to
give you that information sorry.

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00:25:48,561 --> 00:25:50,121
Right okay?

241
00:25:50,401 --> 00:25:52,281
Have you heard from transport this morning?

242
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Has there been an issue?

243
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- I, I can't disclose
any further information sorry.

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00:25:58,441 --> 00:25:59,761
Okay, no worries.

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00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:03,281
I'll umm, I'll give transport a call
and a…

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check in with the HLO.

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00:26:05,841 --> 00:26:08,401
And umm, yep try and find where they are.

248
00:26:08,681 --> 00:26:10,001
Thanks anyway.
- OK.

249
00:26:10,281 --> 00:26:11,241
All right
- No worries.

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00:26:11,521 --> 00:26:12,601
Bye.
- Thanks, bye.

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00:26:16,641 --> 00:26:18,881
(Mouse clicks)

252
00:26:21,001 --> 00:26:24,201
(Typing)

253
00:26:32,161 --> 00:26:35,041
(Chinese gongs)

254
00:26:36,401 --> 00:26:39,041
(People gathering)

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What is it in the rubbish?

256
00:27:39,441 --> 00:27:41,561
It's flags.

257
00:27:42,761 --> 00:27:45,001
It's what,
Uncle?

258
00:27:56,401 --> 00:27:58,561
They're burning some offerings

259
00:27:58,841 --> 00:28:03,361
and what Uncle was saying before
this is like, for the new year.

260
00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:06,481
So they make these offerings,
so that the ghosts are happy

261
00:28:06,761 --> 00:28:10,321
and the ghosts don't go
and bother other people.

262
00:28:10,841 --> 00:28:13,361
What is a ghost?

263
00:28:13,641 --> 00:28:18,561
Is a ghost the animal or
the ghost is the…

264
00:28:18,841 --> 00:28:22,681
When a person dies
the Chinese belief is that

265
00:28:22,961 --> 00:28:25,761
the ghost leaves the body, yeah.

266
00:28:26,761 --> 00:28:30,561
So it's like something you can't see
but it's around us.

267
00:28:31,561 --> 00:28:33,081
Does that make sense?

268
00:28:33,361 --> 00:28:35,121
But I can't see any ghosts.

269
00:28:35,401 --> 00:28:37,521
No, we can't see them with our eyes.

270
00:28:37,801 --> 00:28:39,201
- Why?

271
00:28:39,481 --> 00:28:41,241
- Because they're no longer body.

272
00:28:41,521 --> 00:28:44,441
- They're no longer like you,
like your body.

273
00:28:44,721 --> 00:28:47,961
- It's like, kind of like air
or clouds or something.

274
00:28:54,801 --> 00:28:58,241
(Traditional Chinese gongs)

275
00:28:59,721 --> 00:29:01,961
(Chinese speaker)

276
00:29:32,761 --> 00:29:35,681
(Gongs reach crescendo)

277
00:29:36,961 --> 00:29:39,881
(Crashing surf)

278
00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,801
(Wind whistles in lava holes)

279
00:31:21,201 --> 00:31:24,121
(Arthur recites…)

280
00:32:35,481 --> 00:32:37,401
You okay babe?

281
00:32:40,521 --> 00:32:42,601
- What's wrong?

282
00:32:46,361 --> 00:32:50,441
Do you remember that boat,
that went down last week.

283
00:32:51,961 --> 00:32:54,521
- At night, yeah.

284
00:32:55,601 --> 00:32:57,921
- Yeah, of course.

285
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:05,241
There was a young man

286
00:33:06,721 --> 00:33:10,681
ahh, that I met today
who, was on that boat

287
00:33:14,321 --> 00:33:16,281
and umm…

288
00:33:18,961 --> 00:33:21,161
- He was talking about

289
00:33:22,161 --> 00:33:25,961
Like all those hours in darkness
on the water.

290
00:33:27,001 --> 00:33:31,161
He managed to hold on to
something that time

291
00:33:31,441 --> 00:33:33,281
and umm…

292
00:33:34,361 --> 00:33:36,961
It was just the way that he
described when the

293
00:33:37,241 --> 00:33:39,201
the first light was

294
00:33:40,001 --> 00:33:44,161
coming, like when they could first see
what was happening.

295
00:33:46,601 --> 00:33:48,961
And like I think

296
00:33:50,761 --> 00:33:52,801
maybe what

297
00:33:53,081 --> 00:33:55,481
32, or so, people

298
00:33:56,881 --> 00:33:59,481
drowned off that boat.

299
00:34:06,761 --> 00:34:08,801
He explained to me that

300
00:34:10,041 --> 00:34:14,321
As the light first came up,
the water was still like

301
00:34:14,601 --> 00:34:18,841
like oil, it was, slick and dark.

302
00:34:23,401 --> 00:34:28,001
In fact, he didn't see the, the sharks, he

303
00:34:28,401 --> 00:34:32,921
he heard the people,
their screams, as they were,

304
00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:35,801
taken.

305
00:34:41,081 --> 00:34:44,601
And I just sat there thinking like

306
00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,481
if I was in that situation, I
don't know whether I would

307
00:34:50,761 --> 00:34:53,321
let go of the

308
00:34:55,201 --> 00:34:57,481
like let go and just

309
00:34:57,761 --> 00:34:59,921
sink, drown or whether

310
00:35:01,841 --> 00:35:05,601
like, you would wait for
your turn, to see if

311
00:35:07,601 --> 00:35:10,481
the shark takes you or not.

312
00:35:15,161 --> 00:35:19,001
It was really hard to sit with that.

313
00:35:26,881 --> 00:35:30,041
I don't know, maybe he'll come back
next week or

314
00:35:30,961 --> 00:35:33,521
maybe they'll move him.

315
00:35:36,321 --> 00:35:38,961
It's the usual, never knowing.

316
00:35:39,241 --> 00:35:41,761
You don't know if you've got one moment

317
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:43,721
one conversation or

318
00:35:44,001 --> 00:35:46,761
two years of conversations.

319
00:36:17,481 --> 00:36:19,881
I'm exhausted.

320
00:36:22,001 --> 00:36:24,281
Not much you could do babe.

321
00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:39,281
(CD Radio) - Roger, and clear,
that's it for now.

322
00:36:39,561 --> 00:36:41,761
- I'll let you know when
there's more, coming through.

323
00:36:42,041 --> 00:36:44,041
You got any more coming?

324
00:36:45,281 --> 00:36:47,121
Stop there by that one.

325
00:36:47,401 --> 00:36:50,401
(CD Radio) - That's good,
I'll let you know when I need ya.

326
00:36:52,681 --> 00:36:55,601
(Trainee Ranger on CB Radio)

327
00:36:59,001 --> 00:37:00,801
(Trainee Ranger) - Yeah alright.

328
00:37:01,081 --> 00:37:03,321
- Should be here in a couple of minutes.
Tell him to stop.

329
00:37:03,601 --> 00:37:05,081
- Yep.

330
00:37:06,001 --> 00:37:08,441
I've got a car coming up mate
in a minute

331
00:37:08,721 --> 00:37:11,081
so then I'll escort you through, ok.

332
00:37:11,361 --> 00:37:14,721
Is that alright?
So if you wanna just

333
00:37:15,001 --> 00:37:18,481
put it there, just go to the other side

334
00:37:18,761 --> 00:37:21,401
and I'll come with you.

335
00:37:27,321 --> 00:37:30,321
Hey boss boss, you copy.

336
00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:44,201
(Ranger on CB Radio) - Hold
them there until the next ones

337
00:37:44,481 --> 00:37:47,281
come through from the opposite direction.

338
00:37:47,561 --> 00:37:50,801
- There's some coming through now
Esme will bring them through.

339
00:38:22,841 --> 00:38:29,121
(Sound of marching crabs fills the air)

340
00:38:46,521 --> 00:38:51,161
(Tapping of many crab claws)

341
00:39:09,841 --> 00:39:13,041
(Poh Lin) - How is it, to talk to me today?

342
00:39:16,561 --> 00:39:18,481
(Refugee speaking)

343
00:39:27,201 --> 00:39:30,921
(Translator) - Yeah, I feel like even if I talk
for a couple of days and constant.

344
00:39:31,201 --> 00:39:34,241
I wouldn't get empty.
I feel like my inner…

345
00:39:34,521 --> 00:39:40,361
is full of all those experiences,
stories and bitter experiences.

346
00:39:42,921 --> 00:39:45,281
(Poh Lin) - Is it okay to ask a question?

347
00:39:45,561 --> 00:39:49,161
- I guess I'm curious about,
as a mother and son.

348
00:39:49,441 --> 00:39:52,721
- Is there a way that you particularly
look at each other?

349
00:39:53,001 --> 00:39:55,761
- Is there a way that you hold each other?

350
00:39:56,041 --> 00:39:59,801
- Do you sing, do you pray,
what do you do together

351
00:40:00,081 --> 00:40:02,441
to experience connection

352
00:40:02,721 --> 00:40:06,481
even when the conditions
around are so chaotic?

353
00:40:21,841 --> 00:40:24,721
(Translator) - Yeah, yeah.

354
00:40:25,001 --> 00:40:28,881
- His character, he's a
very kind and sensitive boy

355
00:40:29,161 --> 00:40:32,201
and he's very intelligent and smart as well

356
00:40:32,481 --> 00:40:36,841
and as a mom, by just
holding and hugging him

357
00:40:37,121 --> 00:40:39,881
it was giving both sides comfort.

358
00:40:40,161 --> 00:40:44,201
(Poh Lin) - So that was something that you
could give each other both ways.

359
00:40:44,481 --> 00:40:47,281
(Translator interprets Poh Lin)

360
00:40:57,161 --> 00:41:00,721
How old was Zane, when you first arrived?

361
00:41:01,001 --> 00:41:03,801
(Translator interprets)

362
00:41:08,081 --> 00:41:10,001
(Refugee speaking)

363
00:42:06,441 --> 00:42:08,361
(Poh Lin) - It's ok ok.

364
00:42:26,601 --> 00:42:31,721
(Poh Lin) - As we've talked before
it's not illegal to seek asylum.

365
00:42:32,001 --> 00:42:34,801
(Translator interprets)

366
00:42:37,761 --> 00:42:40,561
(Poh Lin) - And it's not acceptable
to experience punishment

367
00:42:40,841 --> 00:42:43,601
for requesting safety and protection.

368
00:42:43,881 --> 00:42:46,681
(Translator interprets)

369
00:43:57,001 --> 00:43:58,921
It's ok.

370
00:44:07,361 --> 00:44:09,521
(Manager) - Have you had any
contact from anyone about them

371
00:44:09,801 --> 00:44:11,641
or they just have been no-shows.

372
00:44:11,921 --> 00:44:15,001
(Poh Lin) - Well I did the normal,
like I rang detention ops

373
00:44:15,281 --> 00:44:18,041
and they were like,
it's an issue with transport

374
00:44:18,321 --> 00:44:21,441
so I rang transport and they
said it's an issue with

375
00:44:21,721 --> 00:44:24,561
with detention operations and

376
00:44:24,841 --> 00:44:27,721
I sent through the list of
names and boat ID numbers.

377
00:44:28,001 --> 00:44:29,441
(Manager) - Yep.

378
00:44:29,721 --> 00:44:32,361
(Poh Lin) - And just got a
really short email back saying

379
00:44:32,641 --> 00:44:37,041
cannot advise if they are
or where they are currently placed.

380
00:44:37,321 --> 00:44:38,961
Or on or off Island.

381
00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:40,801
- Yeah
Yeah ok.

382
00:44:41,081 --> 00:44:44,481
- So.
So, it's gradually being reduced, isn't it.

383
00:44:44,761 --> 00:44:47,801
All of our information.
- Have you had any?

384
00:44:48,081 --> 00:44:51,281
Nothing, I just keep being referred to

385
00:44:51,561 --> 00:44:55,481
the policy, and the secrecy.

386
00:44:55,761 --> 00:44:58,321
- Privacy policy of Immigration.

387
00:44:58,601 --> 00:45:02,721
- At least two years ago,
three years ago

388
00:45:03,001 --> 00:45:05,281
we felt we could make a difference.

389
00:45:05,561 --> 00:45:09,201
- I know it's now got to the point where
we feel like we're just being

390
00:45:09,481 --> 00:45:15,081
here as a little prop for the
immigration, tick their box.

391
00:45:15,361 --> 00:45:19,401
- I know it's incredibly hard
to do worthy work.

392
00:45:20,721 --> 00:45:22,521
Yeah.

393
00:45:23,041 --> 00:45:27,241
And to ignore our recommendations
week, after week, after week

394
00:45:27,521 --> 00:45:32,401
as we just have to watch someone
just deteriorate and

395
00:45:32,681 --> 00:45:36,361
have no ability to prevent it.

396
00:45:36,641 --> 00:45:40,481
- I didn't think that I would
ever work in a context where

397
00:45:40,761 --> 00:45:42,561
you, like…

398
00:45:42,841 --> 00:45:45,801
you know, at least in other places
as difficult as it was

399
00:45:46,081 --> 00:45:48,241
you could hope to see some improvement

400
00:45:48,521 --> 00:45:50,721
over time. I…

401
00:45:52,201 --> 00:45:55,761
It sounds awful, but sometimes
it's hard to come in

402
00:45:56,041 --> 00:45:58,121
because I don't know that I want to see

403
00:45:58,401 --> 00:46:01,041
the people that I care about

404
00:46:02,321 --> 00:46:05,681
worse than the previous week.
- Yeah.

405
00:46:40,121 --> 00:46:43,041
(Raining)

406
00:47:42,521 --> 00:47:45,441
(Man speaking)

407
00:48:13,721 --> 00:48:16,201
(Woman chants)

408
00:48:20,001 --> 00:48:23,081
(Woman continues to chant)

409
00:48:50,001 --> 00:48:52,921
(Man speaking)

410
00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:33,321
(Woman chants)

411
00:50:07,961 --> 00:50:10,041
(Man speaking)

412
00:50:26,801 --> 00:50:31,561
(Sounds of the rainforest)

413
00:51:24,761 --> 00:51:30,281
(Haunting tones merge with the forest noise)

414
00:52:07,961 --> 00:52:10,121
(Male refugee speaking)

415
00:52:27,481 --> 00:52:30,401
(Rainforest noise fades away,
to leave haunting tones)

416
00:55:08,321 --> 00:55:14,081
(Haunting tone fades away)

417
00:55:21,641 --> 00:55:27,401
(Flapping insect wings)

418
00:56:01,121 --> 00:56:04,641
(Radio presenter) Lawyers and asylum
seeker advocates are concerned

419
00:56:04,921 --> 00:56:07,321
about new laws that will apply from tomorrow

420
00:56:07,601 --> 00:56:10,561
affecting staff of immigration
detention centres.

421
00:56:10,841 --> 00:56:14,201
Government contracted workers
risk up to two years in jail

422
00:56:14,481 --> 00:56:16,361
if they disclose what they see.

423
00:56:16,641 --> 00:56:18,641
(Radio guest) This new law effectively turns

424
00:56:18,921 --> 00:56:20,841
the Australian department of immigration

425
00:56:21,121 --> 00:56:24,481
into a secret security organisation
with police powers.

426
00:56:24,761 --> 00:56:27,961
It will prevent anyone working in
immigration detention centres

427
00:56:28,241 --> 00:56:31,721
that is international human rights bodies,
doctors, teachers, councillors

428
00:56:32,001 --> 00:56:35,001
from raising concerns about asylum seekers

429
00:56:35,281 --> 00:56:37,281
about the conditions inside the facilities

430
00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:39,841
they could go to jail for up to 2 years.

431
00:56:40,121 --> 00:56:43,201
So, it will definitely have a chilling effect.

432
00:56:58,441 --> 00:57:01,801
(Arthur) You okay babe?
(Poh Lin) Yep.

433
00:57:02,081 --> 00:57:05,121
(Arthur) I just thought of something.
(Poh Lin) Alright.

434
00:57:05,401 --> 00:57:09,881
(Poh Lin) Where are we camping?
(Arthur) Just there in the sun, at the bottom?

435
00:57:10,161 --> 00:57:11,881
(Poh Lin) Yeah, alright.

436
00:57:18,561 --> 00:57:21,241
How about, just here?

437
00:57:23,281 --> 00:57:24,601
(Poh Lin) - Sure.

438
00:57:27,121 --> 00:57:28,961
Well I kind of

439
00:57:29,601 --> 00:57:33,761
imagined a place where the
girls could just scream too.

440
00:57:34,041 --> 00:57:36,081
With no, no limit.

441
00:57:36,681 --> 00:57:38,721
Well, I think you found that.

442
00:58:24,601 --> 00:58:26,601
(Poppy speaking)

443
00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:46,121
(Poppy speaking)

444
00:59:18,561 --> 00:59:24,001
(Chinese cymbals gently blend
with the night forest sounds)

445
01:00:06,841 --> 01:00:09,081
(Poh Lin recites…)

446
01:00:09,361 --> 01:00:12,641
'The locals make their offerings
to those who have died.'

447
01:00:15,201 --> 01:00:20,281
'Those who have lost their lives in the island
and the oceans surrounding.'

448
01:00:20,561 --> 01:00:22,441
(Roaring bonfire)

449
01:00:23,281 --> 01:00:25,521
'The wandering spirits.'

450
01:00:25,801 --> 01:00:28,161
'The hungry ghosts.'

451
01:00:30,801 --> 01:00:33,561
'Those stuck between worlds.'

452
01:00:34,121 --> 01:00:37,321
'Trapped between homes.'

453
01:00:40,801 --> 01:00:43,081
'What offering will it take

454
01:00:43,361 --> 01:00:46,841
to free those Spirits, from uncertainty?'

455
01:01:47,641 --> 01:01:50,441
(Out of breath)

456
01:03:08,441 --> 01:03:11,241
(Panting)

457
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:16,361
(Hilltop wind)

458
01:04:34,361 --> 01:04:36,361
(Refugee speaking)

459
01:09:06,281 --> 01:09:07,921
- It's alright.

460
01:09:51,721 --> 01:09:53,361
And as you say that to me

461
01:09:55,241 --> 01:09:59,761
You talk about having the two face
that you show power to your family

462
01:10:00,641 --> 01:10:01,881
and

463
01:10:02,161 --> 01:10:05,441
when you said your mother met you
even though she couldn't hop up

464
01:10:05,721 --> 01:10:07,841
she, smiled at you.

465
01:10:09,401 --> 01:10:11,761
Sounds like she was also

466
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:14,441
- She was doing that.
trying to protect you.

467
01:10:14,721 --> 01:10:15,521
Yeah.

468
01:10:36,081 --> 01:10:39,441
Is that what gets you through?

469
01:12:56,521 --> 01:12:58,521
(Whispered prayer)

470
01:14:21,641 --> 01:14:27,921
(Sound of marching crabs)

471
01:14:58,921 --> 01:15:03,561
(Tapping of countless crab claws)

472
01:15:38,361 --> 01:15:40,281
School drives open.

473
01:15:41,841 --> 01:15:43,561
Yeah.

474
01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,841
Switch them round, yep.

475
01:15:51,441 --> 01:15:53,401
North West Point.

476
01:15:53,681 --> 01:15:55,681
Road is closed.

477
01:15:56,801 --> 01:15:58,681
Maddock Knoll, is that open?

478
01:15:58,961 --> 01:16:00,601
Aye, that's open.

479
01:16:12,321 --> 01:16:14,161
- Here?

480
01:16:14,441 --> 01:16:16,241
Yep.

481
01:16:19,761 --> 01:16:22,681
I'm going to put this by the side.

482
01:16:27,241 --> 01:16:29,161
Perfect.
Does that make sense?

483
01:16:29,441 --> 01:16:30,641
Yep.

484
01:17:24,401 --> 01:17:27,641
(Poh Lin's manager on speaker phone)

485
01:17:42,561 --> 01:17:45,561
(Poh Lin) We've put so many recommendations
that he's not okay.

486
01:17:45,841 --> 01:17:48,681
He's not okay to be transferred.
He needs to go the mainland.

487
01:17:59,401 --> 01:18:02,801
It happened the same today as well, it's…

488
01:18:03,081 --> 01:18:05,921
(Manager) Yeah.
Only had one person come today.

489
01:18:06,201 --> 01:18:08,481
(Manager speaking)

490
01:18:50,881 --> 01:18:53,201
(Poh Lin can't speak)

491
01:18:55,001 --> 01:18:58,561
(Menacing tones)

492
01:19:03,081 --> 01:19:07,321
(Poh Lin) I love these people
dearly, but I'm not prepared to

493
01:19:07,601 --> 01:19:10,841
be complicit in some way, with the system.

494
01:19:12,801 --> 01:19:15,001
Can't just keep propping someone up mentally

495
01:19:15,281 --> 01:19:18,881
forever, when there's
complete uncertainty.

496
01:19:19,161 --> 01:19:21,281
You know like someone in
prison has a sentence

497
01:19:21,561 --> 01:19:23,041
they have a time frame.

498
01:19:23,321 --> 01:19:26,281
They know when they're going
to get out. But indefinite, like…

499
01:19:26,561 --> 01:19:29,281
Can you imagine trying to get
your head around

500
01:19:29,561 --> 01:19:32,401
no certainty?

501
01:19:33,921 --> 01:19:39,121
The day becomes the month,
becomes the year, becomes the decade.

502
01:19:39,761 --> 01:19:42,281
When time is like that

503
01:19:42,561 --> 01:19:44,801
your whole mental faculties

504
01:19:45,081 --> 01:19:47,561
start to break down.

505
01:19:48,241 --> 01:19:51,161
It's the first place I've worked where

506
01:19:51,441 --> 01:19:53,801
even though you're doing really good therapy

507
01:19:54,081 --> 01:19:56,321
you're seeing them decline.

508
01:19:58,201 --> 01:20:01,601
You seeing them going from
being fit and capable

509
01:20:01,881 --> 01:20:05,561
to talking about suicide ideation.

510
01:20:06,681 --> 01:20:11,321
And they get this real deep
desire to end their life.

511
01:20:14,321 --> 01:20:17,081
But I tell you what,
when your life is the only thing

512
01:20:17,361 --> 01:20:20,041
that you have choice over in the end?

513
01:20:20,321 --> 01:20:23,281
You'd probably contemplate it too.

514
01:20:26,001 --> 01:20:29,521
(Haunting tones)

515
01:20:36,441 --> 01:20:38,961
(Gentle surf)

516
01:20:47,681 --> 01:20:50,041
(Heavy breathing)

517
01:21:15,561 --> 01:21:19,401
(Calling haunting tones)

518
01:21:39,921 --> 01:21:42,921
(Sound of the surf)

519
01:21:43,321 --> 01:21:47,161
(Calling haunting tones)

520
01:21:59,441 --> 01:22:03,401
(Haunting tones)

521
01:22:31,681 --> 01:22:33,201
(Poppy) Wow.

522
01:22:33,481 --> 01:22:35,961
(Crashing surf)

523
01:22:39,561 --> 01:22:41,481
(Both) Wow.

524
01:22:44,401 --> 01:22:47,481
Mama, are there crabs in the water?

525
01:22:48,801 --> 01:22:52,161
Not red crabs, no.
Other crabs maybe.

526
01:22:52,441 --> 01:22:54,721
What like crabs?

527
01:22:55,001 --> 01:22:57,361
You know the ones you see on the rocks.

528
01:22:57,641 --> 01:22:59,441
No.
Brown ones.

529
01:23:00,161 --> 01:23:02,681
Oh yeah brown.

530
01:23:02,961 --> 01:23:05,521
And they live in the water?

531
01:23:08,201 --> 01:23:11,721
Just on the rocks I think,
but they can go under the water.

532
01:23:15,521 --> 01:23:17,641
- Do you want to go back?

533
01:23:17,921 --> 01:23:20,241
They're not in the waves?

534
01:23:22,201 --> 01:23:24,521
- It's rough today.

535
01:23:33,041 --> 01:23:35,641
- Come on, let's go.

536
01:23:37,481 --> 01:23:40,481
(Crashing surf)

537
01:24:05,641 --> 01:24:08,281
No, it's a…

538
01:24:09,001 --> 01:24:11,881
Mommy can't do, this work anymore.

539
01:24:12,161 --> 01:24:13,921
It's not possible.

540
01:24:14,201 --> 01:24:16,201
Why?

541
01:24:16,481 --> 01:24:18,961
Because umm

542
01:24:19,241 --> 01:24:22,961
I've reached a point where
the people I want to help

543
01:24:23,241 --> 01:24:25,241
I can't anymore.

544
01:24:25,521 --> 01:24:27,121
Why?

545
01:24:27,401 --> 01:24:30,321
Ahh, there's lots of

546
01:24:30,601 --> 01:24:33,801
lots of things going on, but umm.

547
01:24:34,841 --> 01:24:38,401
But you know my job is about
trying to help some people and

548
01:24:38,681 --> 01:24:40,921
if I can't do that then

549
01:24:41,201 --> 01:24:43,681
it's time for us to go somewhere else.

550
01:24:52,721 --> 01:24:54,641
(Poh Lin) - That's, Poppy and Albertine.

551
01:24:55,361 --> 01:24:56,521
Ok.

552
01:24:58,641 --> 01:25:01,401
(Poh Lin) Can we give
that one, to the op shop?

553
01:25:01,681 --> 01:25:03,401
No.

554
01:25:03,681 --> 01:25:06,521
(Poh Lin) We can't take everything.

555
01:25:06,801 --> 01:25:09,481
(Poppy) I like that one and I keep it.

556
01:25:09,761 --> 01:25:12,961
And keep that bag and Albertine bag.

557
01:25:13,561 --> 01:25:15,641
(Poh Lin) Ok.

558
01:25:15,921 --> 01:25:18,441
So maybe we put the things up
here that we're going to take.

559
01:25:18,721 --> 01:25:21,481
Are we taking this book or not?
Yep.

560
01:25:21,761 --> 01:25:22,641
Yep.

561
01:25:23,521 --> 01:25:24,521
Yep.

562
01:25:24,961 --> 01:25:25,481
Yep.

563
01:25:50,041 --> 01:25:53,041
(Gently crashing surf)

564
01:26:00,761 --> 01:26:06,441
(Haunting theme music
swells with the surf)

565
01:27:26,121 --> 01:27:30,641
(Theme music swells
and drowns out the surf)