1 00:00:09,409 --> 00:00:17,117 >>> EVERY YEAR, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS COLLECTS $7 BILLION IN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ITS 17 2 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:27,827 MILLION MEMBERS. THE CHURCH HAS ITS OWN INVESTMENT FIRM, BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT HOW MILLIONS 3 00:00:27,894 --> 00:00:31,264 OF THOSE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN USED BY THE FAMOUSLY PRIVATE CHURCH. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA THAT SECRECY BUILDS MISTRUST? 4 00:00:31,331 --> 00:00:35,435 >> MM-HMM. WELL, WE DON'T FEEL IT'S BEING SECRET. WE FEEL IT'S BEING CONFIDENTIAL. 5 00:00:35,502 --> 00:00:44,811 >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? >> UM -- >>> WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE IN THE WATER WITH THEM? 6 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:56,289 >> MAGICAL. >> TONIGHT, "60 MINUTES" IS EYE TO EYE WITH THE WHALE OF MOBY DICK LEGEND. 7 00:00:56,356 --> 00:01:05,832 BUT SPERM WHALES ARE MATERNAL. GENERATIONS LIVE TOGETHER WHILE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CALFS AND THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST BRAIN IN 8 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:10,970 THE ANIMAL KINGDOM. AND THEY SLEEP LIKE THIS. >>> YOU WOULD BE FORGIVEN FOR DOUBLE CHECKING YOUR TICKET TO 9 00:01:11,037 --> 00:01:21,381 MAKE SURE YOU WEREN'T AT MADISON QUARE GARDEN. THIS IS NEW YORK'S METROPOLITAN OPERA. 10 00:01:21,448 --> 00:01:30,256 AND IN THIS CORNER, THE MAESTRO ONLY A THIRD MUSIC DIRECTOR IN THE MET'S 130-YEAR HISTORY. HIS EYES REACH MUSICIANS IN THE 11 00:01:30,323 --> 00:01:41,201 PIT AND VOCALISTS ON STAGE, SEEMINGLY ALL AT ONCE. THE BOUNCE IN HIS BATON CONSECRATES EVERY NOTE. 12 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:45,905 >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. 13 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:51,611 >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECELIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT 14 00:01:51,678 --> 00:02:05,592 ON "60 MINUTES." >>> EVERY RELIGION HAS ITS MYSTERIES. ONE OF THE CLOSEST GUARDED 15 00:02:05,658 --> 00:02:12,365 SECRETS OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS HAS BEEN ITS WEALTH. TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FOR THE 16 00:02:12,432 --> 00:02:20,740 FIRST TIME ABOUT ITS REMARKABLE SIZE FROM A FORMER MANAGER AT THE CHURCH'S INVESTMENT FIRM. DAVID NIELSEN SAYS THAT DURING 17 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:29,115 HIS NINE YEARS MANAGING MONEY AT THE CHURCH FIRM, THE VALUE OF ITS INVESTMENTS BALLOONED PAST $100 BILLION. 18 00:02:29,182 --> 00:02:35,388 THAT WOULD MAKE IT THE LARGEST TREASURE HELD BY ANY RELIGIOUS FUND IN AMERICA. BUT INSTEAD OF SPENDING THAT 19 00:02:35,455 --> 00:02:42,128 MONEY TO DO GOOD, DAVID NIELSEN ALLEGES IT WAS USED IN WAYS THAT BENT THE LAW AND BROKE HIS FAITH. 20 00:02:42,195 --> 00:02:48,401 >> I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO WORK FOR A CHARITY. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT MY SKILLS WERE GOING TO DO. 21 00:02:48,468 --> 00:02:57,243 WAS HELP BUILD THE CHARITY AND DO GOOD WITH THINGS. AND THE FUNDS WERE NEVER USED FOR THAT. 22 00:02:57,310 --> 00:03:07,453 IT WAS REALLY A CLANDESTINE HEDGE FUND. >> A CLANDESTINE HEDGE FUND. >> HOW SO? 23 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,356 >> THOSE FUNDS WEREN'T USED THE WAY THEY WERE APPROPRIATED TO BE USED. >> SO HOW WERE THEY BEING USED? 24 00:03:10,423 --> 00:03:15,562 >> ONCE THE MONEY WENT IN, IT DIDN'T GO OUT. >> DAVID NIELSEN WAS A SENIOR PORTFOLIO MANAGER FOR THE 25 00:03:15,628 --> 00:03:24,437 INVESTMENT ARM OF THE CHURCH CALLED ENSIGN PEAK ADVISERS. IN 2009, NIELSEN, WHO SAYS HE WAS A DEVOUT MORMON, WAS 26 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:31,744 RECRUITED AWAY FROM A LUCRATIVE JOB ON WALL STREET TO WORK FOR THE FIRM, A BLOCK FROM CHURCH HEADQUARTERS IN SALT LAKE CITY. 27 00:03:31,811 --> 00:03:38,551 >> YOU KNOW THIS, WALL STREET, YOU SPEND YOUR SKILLS WORKING TO MAKE REALLY RICH PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE RICH. 28 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:42,722 BUT THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF PUTTING YOUR SKILLS TO WORK FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS 29 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:50,530 REALLY GOING TO BUILD THE KINGDOM, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. >> BUT NIELSEN SAYS THAT HE GREW 30 00:03:50,597 --> 00:04:04,143 TROUBLED BY WHAT HE SAW AT ENSIGN PEAK. HE SAYS THE FIRM USED FALSE RECORDS AND STATEMENTS TO MASK 31 00:04:04,210 --> 00:04:09,382 AS A CHARITY, STOCKPILING MONEY, AND MISLEADING CHURCH MEMBERS. EVERY YEAR, THE CHURCH COLLECTS AN ESTIMATED $7 BILLION IN 32 00:04:09,449 --> 00:04:16,689 CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ITS 17 MILLION PEOPLE. THE CHURCH EXPECTS MEMBERS TO CONTRIBUTE ABOUT 10% OF THEIR 33 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:23,463 INCOME, A PRACTICE KNOWN AS TITHING. EXPLAIN HOW THE TITHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED? 34 00:04:23,529 --> 00:04:29,702 >> TITHING IS WHAT'S USED TO BUILD BUILDINGS, IT'S WHAT USED TO PAY THE LIGHT BILLS. TITHING IS WHAT'S USED TO 35 00:04:29,769 --> 00:04:39,245 OPERATE SOME OF THE CHURCH'S PROGRAMS. >> WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER, ABOUT $1 BILLION A YEAR, IS PUT INTO A 36 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:42,348 RESERVE FUND AT ENSIGN PEAK AND INVESTED. BECAUSE ENSIGN PEAK IS REGISTERED AS A NONPROFIT, IT 37 00:04:42,415 --> 00:04:53,226 ALL GROWS TAX FREE. DAVID NIELSEN SAYS THAT SINCE IT WAS CREATED IN 1997, THE RESERVE FUND HAS SWELLED BEYOND $100 38 00:04:53,292 --> 00:05:00,199 BILLION, TWICE THE SIZE OF HARVARD'S ENDOWMENT OR THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION. >> YOU COULD SOLVE BIG PROBLEMS 39 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:07,907 WITH $100 BILLION. >> IS THAT THE THING THAT BOTHERS YOU ABOUT ALL OF THIS? >> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO 40 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:13,246 CHANGE THE WORLD, AND WE JUST GREW THE BANK ACCOUNT. >> DID ANY OF YOUR FORMER BOSSES EXPLAIN HOW THE MONEY WAS GOING 41 00:05:13,312 --> 00:05:28,327 TO BE USED ONE DAY? >> THE ANSWER WAS ALWAYS, THE SECOND COMING. AND IT'S A BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK, 42 00:05:28,394 --> 00:05:30,863 BUT DEEP DOWN, I THINK A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES REALLY DID BELIEVE THAT. >> PUBLICLY, CHURCH LEADERS 43 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:39,739 CALLED IT A RAINY DAY FUND. BUT IN 2013, NIELSEN SAYS ONE OF HIS BOSSES SHARED THIS DOCUMENT AT A MEETING THAT SHOWED $1.4 44 00:05:39,806 --> 00:05:47,547 BILLION FROM THE FUND WENT TO A MALL BEING BUILT ON LAND OWNED BY THE CHURCH. AND $600 MILLION WAS USED TO 45 00:05:47,613 --> 00:05:56,422 PROP UP A FOR-PROFIT CHURCH-OWNED INSURANCE COMPANY CALLED BENEFICIAL LIFE. >> I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON 46 00:05:56,489 --> 00:06:01,728 CHARITIES, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS CAN'T BAIL OUT FOR-PROFIT 47 00:06:01,794 --> 00:06:10,036 BUSINESSES AND MAINTAIN THEIR CHARITABLE STATUS. >> AND SO WHEN THEY GAVE THIS MONEY TO BAIL OUT A FOR-PROFIT 48 00:06:10,103 --> 00:06:20,046 VENTURE, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? >> WHAT ARE WE DOING? LIKE, HOW IS THIS OKAY? >> DAVID NIELSEN SAYS THAT HE 49 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:30,356 HIT HIS BREAKING POINT IN 2018 AFTER A WEBSITE CALLED MORMONLEAKS LINKED CHURCH MEMBERS TO COMPANIES THAT 50 00:06:30,423 --> 00:06:41,868 EXISTED ONLY ON PAPER. THOSE SHELL COMPANIES HELD BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN STOCKS AND BONDS. 51 00:06:41,934 --> 00:06:44,470 WHAT NOBODY KNEW OUTSIDE OF CHURCH LEADERSHIP WAS THOSE ASSETS WERE ACTUALLY CONTROLLED BY ENSIGN PEAK. 52 00:06:44,537 --> 00:06:48,775 NIELSEN SAYS THE FIRM CALLED AN EMERGENCY MEETING. WHAT WAS THE EXPLANATION? >> THESE ENTITIES WORK TO HIDE 53 00:06:48,841 --> 00:07:02,255 THE ASSETS FROM THE MEMBERS. THE CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER SAID THAT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE AND START REPORTING THESE 54 00:07:02,321 --> 00:07:07,593 SECURITIES IN OUR OWN NAME, IT WOULD BRING UNDO ATTENTION TO THE FIRM. AND THAT THAT ATTENTION WOULD BE 55 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:13,332 POTENTIALLY DAMAGING. AND AFTER THE MEETING, I WENT AND CONFRONTED HIM. WHAT DO YOU MEAN, "POTENTIALLY 56 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:24,310 DAMAGING"? AND HE SAID, DAVE, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR TAX EXEMPT STATUS. AND I KNEW IN THAT MOMENT I WAS 57 00:07:24,377 --> 00:07:34,253 IN THE WRONG PLACE. >> HE RESIGNED IN 2019 AND FILED A 74-PAGE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT WITH THE INTERNAL 58 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:41,928 REVENUE SERVICE, ALLEGING THAT ENSIGN PEAK VIOLATED ITS TAX-EXEMPT STATUS BY MOVING MONEY TO FOR-PROFIT BUSINESSES. 59 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:48,801 >> IT'S NOT JUST INCORRECT, IT'S FLAT-OUT WRONG. >> CHRISTOPHER WADDELL SAYS THAT NIELSEN DIDN'T HAVE A FULL 60 00:07:48,868 --> 00:08:04,984 PICTURE OF ENSIGN PEAK. WADDELL IS ONE OF THREE BISHOPS THAT OVERSEES CHURCH FINANCES. >> AS A CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WE 61 00:08:05,051 --> 00:08:07,587 BELIEVE THAT SOME DAY THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL RETURN, BUT THAT'S NOT WHY WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. IT'S FOR THE CONTINUING 62 00:08:07,653 --> 00:08:16,562 OPERATION AND FOR THE FUTURE. >> DAVID NIELSEN ALLEGED THAT ENSIGN PEAK VIOLATED ITS TAX-EXEMPT STATUS BY DIRECTING 63 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:20,166 MONEY TO CHURCH BUSINESSES. HOW DO YOU CHARACTERIZE HOW THAT MONEY WAS USED? >> THE CHURCH ACTUALLY OWNED 64 00:08:20,233 --> 00:08:23,402 BENEFICIAL LIFE. AND FORTUNATELY, THE CHURCH HAD THE RESOURCES TO BAIL OUT BENEFICIAL LIFE DURING THE 65 00:08:23,469 --> 00:08:28,474 FINANCIAL CRISIS, 2008-2009. >> AND THE MALL? >> THE MALL WAS NOT A BAILOUT, THE MALL WAS AN INVESTMENT. 66 00:08:28,541 --> 00:08:32,645 >> AND YOU ARE RECEIVING RETURNS ON THAT INVESTMENT? >> ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS AN INVESTMENT. 67 00:08:32,712 --> 00:08:37,917 >> WADDELL SAYS THE INSURANCE COMPANY HAS PAID BACK MOST OF THE BAILOUT MONEY, BUT THE CHURCH WOULD NOT DISCLOSE THE 68 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:44,090 DETAILS OF THAT DEAL OR THE MALL INVESTMENT. UNLIKE OTHER NONPROFITS, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS DON'T 69 00:08:44,156 --> 00:08:51,397 HAVE TO FULLY DISCLOSE ALL FINANCIAL INFORMATION TO THE IRS. WHAT IS THE VALUE RIGHT NOW OF 70 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:56,736 ENSIGN PEAK'S ASSETS? >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T SHARE WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS 71 00:08:56,802 --> 00:09:01,374 ON APPROXIMATES AND THAT KIND OF THING, AND THAT'S AS FAR AS WE CAN GO RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S BEEN ESTIMATED AT 150 72 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,113 BILLION. DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? >> THAT'S AN ESTIMATE SOME HAVE MADE. 73 00:09:07,179 --> 00:09:14,954 >> ARE WE IN THE BALLPARK OR NO? >> WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES. >> GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT 74 00:09:15,021 --> 00:09:24,864 PERCENTAGE IS GOING OUT THE DOOR OF THE MONEY UNDER MANAGEMENT? >> TO BE HONEST, WE'VE NEVER LOOKED AT IT AS A PERCENTAGE. 75 00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:29,035 WE'VE LOOKED AT IT BASED ON NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW MANY YEARS' WORTH WE HAVE IN CASE OF 76 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:34,240 FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES, IN CASE OF A FINANCIAL CRISIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE CHURCH OPERATIONS. 77 00:09:34,307 --> 00:09:42,081 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS SUFFICIENT. >> DAVID NIELSEN SAYS THAT HE DID NOT INTEND FOR HIS COMPLAINT 78 00:09:42,148 --> 00:09:48,321 TO THE IRS TO BECOME PUBLIC, BUT IN 2019, HIS BROTHER SHARED IT WITH "THE WASHINGTON POST." NIELSEN, WHO IN HIS FREE TIME 79 00:09:48,387 --> 00:09:57,697 RACES MOTORCYCLES, SAYS HE WAS SHUNNED BY SOME OF HIS FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN SALT LAKE CITY. IT WASN'T UNTIL 2021, TWO YEARS 80 00:09:57,763 --> 00:10:05,538 LATER, THAT DAVID NIELSEN HEARD FROM INVESTIGATORS. NOT FROM THE IRS, BUT THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE 81 00:10:05,604 --> 00:10:14,413 COMMISSION, WHICH LAUNCHED ITS OWN PROBE INTO ENSIGN PEAK AFTER THAT WEBSITE STORY LINKED THE CHURCH TO SHELL COMPANIES. 82 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,550 WHAT INFORMATION DID YOU GIVE TO THE S.E.C.? >> EVERYTHING. I HELPED THEM SEE THE BIG 83 00:10:17,616 --> 00:10:25,358 PICTURE. >> TO PROTECT MARKET FAIRNESS AND TRANSPARENCY, ANY FIRM WITH MORE THAN $100 MILLION IN 84 00:10:25,424 --> 00:10:31,597 SECURITIES MUST FILE ACCURATE REPORTS ON ITS HOLDINGS WITH THE S.E.C. BUT IN FEBRUARY, THE S.E.C. 85 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:38,404 ANNOUNCED THE CHURCH OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS AND ENSIGN PEAK FAILED TO DO THAT. S.E.C. INVESTIGATORS FOUND THE 86 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:46,746 CHURCH WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO HIDE $32 BILLION IN SECURITIES OVER NEARLY 20 YEARS. IT CREATED 13 SHELL COMPANIES 87 00:10:46,812 --> 00:10:56,122 THAT WERE ASSIGNED A LOCAL PHONE NUMBER THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO VOICEMAIL, IN CASE REGULATORS CHECKED IN. 88 00:10:56,188 --> 00:11:04,030 >> HERE THEY HAD THESE BACK OFFICE ACCOUNTANTS, WHO HAD NEVER BOUGHT A BOND OR SOLD A STOCK A DAY IN THEIR LIFE, 89 00:11:04,096 --> 00:11:11,937 SIGNING SIGNATORY PAGES FOR A PORTFOLIO THAT DIDN'T EXIST. >> THE S.E.C. FINED THE CHURCH AND ENSIGN PEAK A TOTAL OF $5 90 00:11:12,004 --> 00:11:18,210 MILLION. BISHOP CHRISTOPHER WADDELL TOLD US IT WAS THE CHURCH'S LAWYERS WHO ADVISED THEM TO CREATE THE 91 00:11:18,277 --> 00:11:24,383 SHELL COMPANIES. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA THAT SECRECY BUILDS MISTRUST? >> MM-HMM. 92 00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:29,588 WELL, WE DON'T FEEL IT'S BEING SECRET. WE FEEL IT'S BEING CONFIDENTIAL. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? 93 00:11:29,655 --> 00:11:39,532 >> THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM -- I GUESS IT'S A POINT OF VIEW. CONFIDENTIAL, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE FOCUS ON WHAT OUR 94 00:11:39,598 --> 00:11:45,237 PURPOSE IS AND WHAT THE MISSION OF THE CHURCH IS RATHER THAN THE CHURCH HAS "X" AMOUNT OF MONEY. >> BUT DON'T YOU AGREE THIS 95 00:11:45,304 --> 00:11:50,543 WOULD BE A NON-ISSUE IF THERE WAS MORE TRANSPARENCY? >> NO. BECAUSE THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE 96 00:11:50,609 --> 00:11:58,784 TELLING US WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO WITH THE MONEY. >> LAST YEAR, THE CHURCH SAYS THAT IT SPENT OVER $1 BILLION ON 97 00:11:58,851 --> 00:12:04,623 HUMANITARIAN AID, INCLUDING FOOD PRODUCTION. >> IN ANY GIVEN MONTH, YOU MAY HAVE AN AVERAGE OF NINE 98 00:12:04,690 --> 00:12:11,397 TRANSFERS GOING FROM ENSIGN PEAK BACK TO THE CHURCH, TO FUND OUTREACH OPERATIONS. ALL HUMANITARIAN WORK, EDUCATION 99 00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:18,737 WORK, ALL THE WORK OF THE CHURCH, THEY FUND. >> MONEY IS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE CASH ACCOUNTS ALL THE TIME. 100 00:12:18,804 --> 00:12:25,511 BUT ENSIGN PEAK'S FUNDS WERE NEVER USED FOR ANY CHARITABLE PURPOSE. IT'S TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE WHOLE 101 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:32,284 TIME I WAS THERE, SO THERE'S A BIT OF A DISTINCTION HERE THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. 102 00:12:32,351 --> 00:12:39,625 >> IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT AND MAYBE YOUR RETIREMENT ACCOUNT. THEY'RE USED FOR DIFFERENT 103 00:12:39,692 --> 00:12:45,831 PURPOSES AND YOU DON'T GET TO PRETEND THAT ONE IS AFFECTING THE OTHER. >> THE FUNDAMENTAL CLAIM TO ME 104 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:51,604 IS THAT ENSIGN PEAK BRINGS MONEY IN, AND IT'S THE HOTEL CALIFORNIA. IT NEVER COMES OUT. 105 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:59,945 >> PHIL HACKNEY WORKED IN THE OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNSEL OF THE IRS AND TEACHES TAX LAW. HE CONCEDES IT'S COMPLEX AND THE 106 00:13:00,012 --> 00:13:08,320 CASE FALLS INTO A GRAY AREA. THE CHURCH WOULD SAY, WE GIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OUT EVERY YEAR IN HUMANITARIAN WORK. 107 00:13:08,387 --> 00:13:16,162 HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH BY THE STANDARDS OF THE IRS? >> WE KNOW WITHIN PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS, IT'S 5% OF ASSETS. 108 00:13:16,228 --> 00:13:25,004 THERE'S NO CLARITY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC CHARITIES, AND CERTAINLY NOT WITH CHURCHES. BUT, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE 109 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:31,277 SOMETHING LIKE 2, 3% OF ASSETS BEING SPENT OUT TO JUSTIFY THAT STATUS. >> BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF 110 00:13:31,343 --> 00:13:36,015 THEY'RE SPENDING 2 OR 3% OF ASSETS, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ASSETS ARE? >> WE HAVE TO RELY ON THEM 111 00:13:36,081 --> 00:13:41,754 BEHAVING WELL. >> THEY SAID THAT THEY BAILED OUT THIS INSURANCE COMPANY. THAT'S THE WORDS THEY USED. 112 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:52,264 IS THAT A PROBLEM? >> IT IS A PROBLEM, IN MY OPINION, IF THEY HAVE MOVED MONEY FROM THE NON-PROFIT TO A 113 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:58,404 FOR-PROFIT. >> SO HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE THAT THE IRS SHOULD INVESTIGATE THIS? 114 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:08,914 >> SLIM. THE POLITICAL RISK IS SO GREAT THAT IT COMES WITH REAL DANGER. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S A REAL 115 00:14:08,981 --> 00:14:16,789 RISK TO THE RULE OF LAW IF THE IRS DOESN'T COME IN AND ENFORCE THOSE RULES. >> DAVID NIELSEN SAYS THAT 116 00:14:16,855 --> 00:14:24,663 HONESTY IS A TENET OF THE FAITH. HE WANTS ENSIGN PEAK ADVISERS TO PAY THE TAXES HE SAYS IT OWES ON THE $100 BILLION FORTUNE BUILT 117 00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:47,019 FROM TITHING. IF THE IRS DECIDES NIELSEN IS RIGHT, HE COULD BE REWARDED WITH UP TO 30% OF WHAT'S COLLECTED. 118 00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:52,758 THE IRS DOES NOT COMMENT ON WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINTS. WHY ARE YOU SPEAKING NOW? >> IT'S TIME, SHARYN. 119 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,928 WE GAVE THE IRS AND THE S.E.C. ALL THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. THIS IS JUST TOO IMPORTANT TO FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. 120 00:14:55,995 --> 00:15:00,733 >> IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU WERE DEAD WRONG? >> NO. I KNOW WHAT I SAW. 121 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:16,348 I KNOW WHAT I KNOW. >>> IN DECEMBER, NEARLY EVERY MEMBER COUNTRY OF THE UNITED NATIONS PLEDGED TO PROTECT AT 122 00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:28,360 LEAST 30% OF THE WORLD'S LAND AND SEA BY 2030 TO REVERSE THE DAMAGE DONE BY HUMANS AND PROTECT VULNERABLE SPECIES. 123 00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:31,764 ONE OF THE ANIMALS AT RISK IS ALSO ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE OCEAN AND AMONG THE LEAST UNDERSTOOD. 124 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:36,702 SPERM WHALES ARE NOT THE PREDATORS OF MOBY DICK LEGEND. THEY HAVE BRAINS SIX TIMES LARGER THAN OURS AND SPEND MOST 125 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:41,073 OF THEIR LIVES IN THE DARKEST DEPTHS OF THE OCEAN. IT IS DIFFICULT TO DESCRIBE THEIR SIZE WITHOUT COMPARING 126 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:58,624 THEM TO A SCHOOL BUS. LAST MONTH, WE TRAVELLED WITH "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" EXPLORER ENRIC SALA TO THE CARIBBEAN 127 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,794 ISLAND OF DOMINICA, WHERE HE'S PROPOSING PROTECTION FOR THE HUNDREDS OF SPERM WHALES LIVING THERE. 128 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:03,896 BUT FIRST, WE HAD TO FIND THEM. >> YOU GUYS READY? GO! GO! 129 00:16:03,962 --> 00:16:13,272 GO! GO, GUYS, GO! >> LOOK IN THE WATER. COMING STRAIGHT TO YOU. 130 00:16:13,339 --> 00:16:15,674 >> MOST OF ENRIC SALA'S DIVES DON'T START LIKE A FIRE DRILL, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS UNDERWATER AS 131 00:16:15,741 --> 00:16:17,476 AN EXPLORER. >> LOOK DOWN. AT THE BACK OF YOU! LOOK! 132 00:16:17,543 --> 00:16:22,715 THIS WAY! >> WE CAME FACE-TO-FACE WITH A POD OF WHALES, BUT THESE ARE NOT THE WHALES WE CAME ALL THIS WAY 133 00:16:22,781 --> 00:16:27,953 TO SEE. THESE ARE PYGMY KILLER WHALES, KNOWN TO THREATEN SPERM WHALES. AND BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE, THE 134 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:35,794 SPERM WHALES ARE NOT. THESE KILLER WHALES CAN GROW UP TO 8 1/2 FEET IN SIZE. SALA TOLD US SEEING THEM UP 135 00:16:35,861 --> 00:16:42,000 CLOSE ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS. YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO THE WATER WITH THEM? THEY ARE THAT ELUSIVE? 136 00:16:42,067 --> 00:16:48,807 >> NEVER SEE THEM. >> WHY IS THAT? >> THEY ARE VERY SMART. THEY HUNT LIKE WOLVES. 137 00:16:48,874 --> 00:17:06,058 THEY'RE AFTER PREY. >> WE WERE OFF THE COAST OF DOMINICA. AN ISLAND IN THE CARIBBEAN. 138 00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:15,968 THOSE RAIN-FOREST COVERED VOLCANIC PEAKS DROP THOUSANDS OF FEET DOWN TO THE SEA FLOOR BELOW, WHICH IS WHY HUNDREDS OF 139 00:17:16,034 --> 00:17:26,412 SPERM WHALES LIVE IN THESE WATERS. THEY ARE ONE OF THE DEEPEST DIVING MAMMALS ON THE PLANET. 140 00:17:26,478 --> 00:17:31,083 THEY ARE MOSTLY FEMALES HERE, FAMILIES MADE UP OF GRANDMOTHERS, MOTHERS, AND DAUGHTERS WHO STAY TOGETHER FOR 141 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:35,788 LIFE, NURSING AND RAISING THEIR YOUNG. WHEN ENRIC SALA WAS HERE IN DECEMBER, HIS "NATIONAL 142 00:17:35,854 --> 00:17:38,724 GEOGRAPHIC" TEAM FILMED THIS. IT IS A POD OF SLEEPING FEMALE SPERM WHALES, VERTICAL GIANTS UP TO 40 FEET LONG, SUSPENDED NEAR 143 00:17:38,791 --> 00:17:44,663 THE SURFACE. THEIR NAP LASTS ONLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES UNTIL THE WHALES ARE READY TO DIVE AGAIN IN WHAT CAN 144 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:49,968 BE AN HOUR-LONG JOURNEY FOR SQUID THOUSANDS OF FEET DOWN. EVEN TO RESEARCHERS, WHY THEY SLEEP LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE 145 00:17:50,035 --> 00:17:59,278 GREAT MYSTERIES. WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE IN THE WATER WITH THEM? >> MAGICAL. 146 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:03,081 WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS THE LEGEND OF MOBY DICK, THESE NASTY, AGGRESSIVE ANIMALS. BUT YOU JUMP IN THE WATER, AND 147 00:18:03,148 --> 00:18:11,323 THEY ARE SO DOCILE AND GENTLE. THEY HAVE NEVER ATTACKED HUMANS. AND THEY ARE SO CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY THE BABIES. 148 00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:16,562 SO IT'S ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING WILDLIFE ENCOUNTERS THAT ONE CAN HAVE. >> YOUR OFFICIAL TITLE IS 149 00:18:16,628 --> 00:18:22,768 EXPLORER IN RESIDENCE. >> IT'S AN OXYMORON. EXPLORERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SITTING IN ONE PLACE. 150 00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:29,708 >> THAT'S TRUE. WHAT'S THAT MEAN TO BE AN EXPLORER IN 2023? >> VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT AN 151 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:37,416 EXPLORER OF THE 19th CENTURY WAS. I CAN DEDICATE MY LIFE AND WORK WITH AN AMAZING TEAM OF 152 00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:54,199 SCIENTISTS, POLICY EXPERTS, FILMMAKERS, STORYTELLERS TO WORK WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES, GOVERNMENT, AND INDIGENOUS 153 00:18:54,266 --> 00:18:56,935 PEOPLE TO ASSESS THE HEALTH OF OCEAN PLACES AND HELP TO PROTECT THEM. >> HE GREW UP NORTH OF 154 00:18:57,002 --> 00:18:59,371 BARCELONA, SPAIN, NEAR THE COAST. HIS FIRST DIVE WAS IN A MARINE RESERVE. 155 00:18:59,438 --> 00:19:03,075 >> IT DROVE EVERYTHING THAT I HAD DONE AFTERWARDS. IF WE GIVE THE OCEAN SPACE, IT CAN HEAL ITSELF. 156 00:19:03,141 --> 00:19:09,414 >> SALA MOVED TO CALIFORNIA WHERE HE WAS A PROFESSOR OF MARINE ECOLOGY FOR SEVEN YEARS AT THE SCRIPPS INSTITUTION OF 157 00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:21,960 OCEANOGRAPHY. YOU HAVE HAD A LONG CAREER IN ACADEMIA AT A TOP UNIVERSITY AND YOU TRIED THAT AND DECIDED, NOT 158 00:19:22,027 --> 00:19:27,065 FOR ME. YOU WALKED AWAY. >> I WALKED AWAY, BECAUSE MY JOB WAS TO STUDY THE IMPACTS OF 159 00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:30,702 HUMAN IN THE OCEAN, THE IMPACTS OF FISHING AND GLOBAL WARMING. AND ONE DAY I REALIZED, ALL I WAS DOING WAS WRITING THE 160 00:19:30,769 --> 00:19:33,972 OBITUARY OF THE OCEAN. >> WRITING THE OBITUARY OF THE OCEAN? >> YEAH, I FELT LIKE THE DOCTOR 161 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:40,112 WHO WAS TELLING YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIE WITH EXCRUCIATING DETAIL, BUT NOT OFFERING A CURE. >> HAVE YOU FOUND THAT CURE? 162 00:19:40,178 --> 00:19:46,985 >> THERE IS ONE SOLUTION. THAT IS PROVEN. IT'S A SUCCESS STORY EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, WHICH IS MARINE 163 00:19:47,052 --> 00:19:51,189 RESERVES OR MARINE-PROTECTED AREAS. AREAS WHERE DAMAGING ACTIVITIES ARE BANNED AND MARINE LIFE CAN 164 00:19:51,256 --> 00:20:02,000 COME BACK. >> HE FOUNDED THE PRISTINE SEAS PROJECT IN 2008. IT COMBINES SEA EXPLORATION, 165 00:20:02,067 --> 00:20:07,773 SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, AND PUBLIC POLICY AND HAS WORKED WITH 17 COUNTRIES TO TURN THESE LARGE SWATHS OF THE OCEAN INTO 166 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:21,853 MARINE-PROTECTED AREAS. IN DOMINICA, SCIENTISTS ESTIMATE THE SPERM WHALE POPULATION DECLINES BY 3% EACH YEAR. 167 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:28,627 SALA SAYS A PRESERVE WOULD PROTECT THEM FROM THEIR GREATEST THREAT -- NOT THOSE PYGMY KILLER WHALES WE SAW OR WHALING, WHICH 168 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:37,069 HAS BEEN BANNED FOR DECADES, BUT PLASTIC TRASH, OCEAN NOISE POLLUTION, AND SHIP STRIKES. IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THE STATUS 169 00:20:37,135 --> 00:20:42,708 QUO HERE, WHAT HAPPENS? >> IF NOTHING IS DONE, THE POPULATION WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE DECLINING. 170 00:20:42,774 --> 00:20:54,186 SO REDUCING THOSE THREATS, HOPEFULLY, WILL ALLOW THE SPERM WHALE POPULATION TO REBOUND. AND THE MORE WHALES THERE ARE, 171 00:20:54,252 --> 00:21:01,526 THE MORE BENEFITS DOMINICA AND THE LOCAL BENEFITS WILL OBTAIN. >> HURRICANE MARIA DEVASTATED THOSE COMMUNITIES IN 2017. 172 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:11,069 TODAY, THE ISLAND IS CONTINUING TO REBUILD AND PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE. FRANCINE BARON HEADS THE AGENCY 173 00:21:11,136 --> 00:21:17,442 IN CHARGE OF THAT EFFORT. WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HURRICANE MARIA THAT MADE THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY SAY, WE HAVE TO DO 174 00:21:17,509 --> 00:21:21,780 SOMETHING? WE REALLY HAVE TO ACT? >> WE SUFFERED THE EQUIVALENT OF 226% LOSS OF GDP. 175 00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:28,286 SO WE COULD SEE THE TREND. AND WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO BECOME MUCH MORE RESILIENT. >> WHEN ENRIC SALA CAME TO YOU 176 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:38,196 WITH THIS IDEA OF CREATING THIS SANCTUARY FOR THESE WHALES, WHAT WAS HIS PITCH TO YOU? >> WE SEE WHALE WATCHING AS AN 177 00:21:38,263 --> 00:21:45,537 IMPORTANT PART OF OUR TOURISM PRODUCT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. AND THE IDEA OF CREATING GREATER 178 00:21:45,604 --> 00:21:55,414 PROTECTION FOR THE WHALES IS SOMETHING THAT DOMINICA IS VERY OPEN TO AND WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT ENRIC 179 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,585 MADE TO CREATE A RECOGNIZED SANCTUARY FOR THE WHALES. >> ENRIC SALA COMPARES IT TO A MODEL THAT WORKS IN RWANDA, 180 00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:11,029 WHERE PROTECTING MOUNTAIN GORILLAS HELPED BRING TOURISM DOLLARS TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. YOU GOING TO FIND US SOME 181 00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:17,402 WHALES? >> SURE. >> ALL RIGHT. CAPTAIN CURT BENOIT WAS BORN AND 182 00:22:17,469 --> 00:22:21,973 RAISED AND HAS BEEN IN THE WHALE AND TOURISM BUSINESS FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES AGO. WE SET OUT ON HIS 38-FOOT "LADY 183 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,279 ROSE" FROM A SMALL FISHING VILLAGE ON THE WEST COAST. OUR GOVERNMENT PERMIT TO SWIM WITH THE WHALES WAS GOOD FOR SIX 184 00:22:27,345 --> 00:22:36,054 DAYS. CAPTAIN BENOIT USES A HOMEMADE DEVICE THAT PICKS UP THE DISTINCT CLICKING OF SPERM 185 00:22:36,121 --> 00:22:41,893 WHALES AS FAR AS 11 MILES AWAY. >> WE'VE GOT WHALES IN THE SOUTH. >> EVERY THREE MILES, WE CHECK 186 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,567 TO SEE IF WE WERE GETTING CLOSER. >> COME TO PAPA. THAT IS HER. 187 00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:52,270 >> TELL ME ABOUT THIS REALLY HIGH TECH DEVICE YOU'VE GOT HERE. >> YOU HAVE ON THE WATER A 188 00:22:52,337 --> 00:23:01,747 MICROPHONE WHICH PICKS UP SOUND FROM 360. SO WHAT I DID, I TOOK A SALAD BOWL WITH NEOPRENE, SO AS IT 189 00:23:01,813 --> 00:23:05,851 GOES OUT, IT BRINGS YOU STRAIGHT TO WHEREVER YOU HEAR THE SOUND. >> THIS IS A SALAD BOWL FROM YOUR HOUSE? 190 00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:11,590 >> YES. >> WHAT DO THE WHALES SOUND LIKE? >> IT'S LIKE A HORSE IS 191 00:23:11,656 --> 00:23:17,829 GALLOPING ON A HOT SURFACE. IF YOU HEAR SEVERAL OF THEM, THAT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF WHALES THERE. 192 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:28,306 LET'S KEEP IT GOING. I'M GOING TO FIND THESE GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT! >> ON A SECOND DAY, A 193 00:23:28,373 --> 00:23:30,375 WATERSPOUT. SEE IT? RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN SEE ITS TOP. 194 00:23:30,442 --> 00:23:38,283 LOOK AT THEM. >> GO! >> SWIMMERS IN THE WATER. >> MALES HERE LIVE WITH THEIR 195 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,887 FAMILIES UNTIL THEIR TEEN YEARS. THEN THEY ROAM MOSTLY ALONE, SWIMMING THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. 196 00:23:41,953 --> 00:23:52,297 CARIBBEAN MALE SPERM WHALES HAVE BEEN FOUND AS FAR AWAY AS NORWAY, RETURNING HERE ONLY TO MATE. 197 00:23:52,364 --> 00:23:59,604 OUR CAMERAMAN GOT LUCKY ENOUGH OR UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE WHALE POOP ON HIM. >> THE WHALES GO DOWN, HUNT 198 00:23:59,671 --> 00:24:08,680 SQUID, COME BACK TO THE SURFACE, THEY BREATHE, THEY REST, AND THEY POOP. AND THAT POOP IS FULL OF NEWT 199 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:16,888 NUTRIENTS THAT FERTILIZES THE SHALLOW WATERS. >> SO A GOOD THING, I GUESS. >> IT'S A GOOD THING. 200 00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:23,161 COME ON, PEOPLE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPOUTS. >> BUT OUR LUCK DIDN'T LAST. WE SPENT THE NEXT DAY SEARCHING 201 00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:28,867 FOR SPERM WHALES AND THE NEXT -- NOTHING AT ALL? >> NOTHING AT ALL. >> AND THE NEXT. 202 00:24:28,934 --> 00:24:38,276 NOT A SINGLE CLICK. >> YOU GUYS, IT'S PRETTY QUIET. >> AND THEN, IN THE LAST HOUR OF THE LAST DAY OF OUR TRIP -- 203 00:24:38,343 --> 00:24:48,186 >> WE HAVE LOTS OF ANIMALS IN THE AREA, GUYS. THEY'RE COMING BACK. BUT I'M GETTING SOME 360. 204 00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:53,925 SO THAT MEANS THE WHALES, WE ARE ABOVE THEM. WE ARE RIGHT THERE. >> GO! 205 00:24:53,992 --> 00:25:04,936 GO! GO! IT'S COMING TO YOU. IT'S COMING TO YOU! 206 00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:11,209 >> WE JUMPED IN THE WATER AND A YOUNG FEMALE SWAM RIGHT TO US. SHE CAME WITHIN FEET. AT FIRST, HER SIZE WAS 207 00:25:11,276 --> 00:25:20,118 TERRIFYING. SHE MADE A SOUND LIKE A CREAKING DOOR HINGE. IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WHALES 208 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:36,234 COMMUNICATE AND SOCIALIZE. WITH EYES ON THE SIDE OF HER HEAD, SHE STARED RIGHT AT US. SHE HAD SQUID IN HER MOUTH, 209 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:42,474 LEFTOVER FROM LUNCH THOUSANDS OF FEET BELOW. SHE STAYED AND ROLLED AROUND AND HER JAW WAS WIDE OPEN. 210 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:51,883 SHE WAS USING ECHOLOCATION, BOUNCING THOSE CLICKS OFF OF US, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE. 211 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:55,053 YOU COULD HEAR THE CLICKING. YOU COULD HEAR HER -- ONCE YOU WERE REALLY CLOSE TO HER, YOU COULD HEAR THAT. 212 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:00,258 VERY LOUDLY. >> I COULD FEEL IT IN MY BONES. >> YOU GRABBED MY HAND. YOU COULD TELL I WAS NERVOUS. 213 00:26:00,325 --> 00:26:04,529 >> I WAS EXCITED TOO. >> YOU WERE? >> THEY ARE HUGE. YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THEM. 214 00:26:04,596 --> 00:26:12,871 >> YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THEM. THERE IS A SENSE OF AWE THAT COMES WITH BEING IN THERE. SHE WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT US. 215 00:26:12,938 --> 00:26:22,247 AND SHE LEFT US A SOUVENIR. >> A PIECE OF SQUID. >> SPERM WHALES LIVE -- >> SHANE GERO IS ANOTHER 216 00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:27,986 "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" EXPLORER. HE STARTED THE DOMINICA SPERM WHALE PROGRESS AND OVER THE PAST 35 YEARS, HE'S IDENTIFIED 35 217 00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:41,232 FAMILIES. DID YOU RAISE THE WHALE WE SAW? >> THE ONE YOU SAW, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THAT MUCH. 218 00:26:41,299 --> 00:26:48,540 AND THOSE GROUPS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY MAKING SPECIFIC PATTERNS OF CLICKS CALLED CODAS. IT'S A PART OF WHO THEY ARE, 219 00:26:48,606 --> 00:27:00,585 WHERE THEIR GRANDMOTHER GREW UP, AND SO IT REALLY TIES THE ANIMALS AND THE PLACE TOGETHER. >> WHAT DOES THE CODA OF THE EC2 220 00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:08,893 SOUND LIKE? >> THEY MAKE THE 5R3 CODA. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS. FIVE SLOW CLICKS. 221 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:16,267 AND SHE CAME UP TO YOU AND MADE THIS 5R3 CODA, SAYING I AM FROM THE EC2 CLAN, ARE YOU? >> SHE WAS ROLLING AROUND AND 222 00:27:16,334 --> 00:27:25,210 KEPT COMING BACK. BUT IS THAT ME ASSIGNING HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS TO A WHALE, OR IS SHE ACTUALLY A PLAYFUL 223 00:27:25,276 --> 00:27:30,815 ANIMAL? >> THESE ARE THE ANIMALS THAT ARE HOLDING THE LARGEST BRAIN TO EVER EXIST, MAYBE IN THE 224 00:27:30,882 --> 00:27:35,620 UNIVERSE AND THEY USE THAT FOR COMPLICATED THINKING AND BEHAVIOR. ABSOLUTELY, THIS WAS AN ANIMAL 225 00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:42,794 THAT WAS PLAYFUL. AND THAT CURIOSITY OF THE ANIMAL ACTIVELY COMING TOWARDS YOU JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS AN ANIMAL 226 00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:50,635 THAT'S INVESTIGATING SOMETHING IN ITS WORLD. >> BACK ON THE DOCK -- >> THERE IS A TREASURE HERE. 227 00:27:50,702 --> 00:27:56,374 >> ENRIC SALA SAID, IT'S THAT WORLD HE'S TRYING TO PROTECT. >> BEING IN THE WATER WITH SPERM WHALES IS A MAGICAL EXPERIENCE. 228 00:27:56,441 --> 00:28:06,851 THERE'S SOMETHING SPIRITUAL THERE. IT'S MORE THAN SCIENCE AND DATA. A SENSE OF AWE AND WONDER THAT 229 00:28:06,918 --> 00:28:12,590 IS UNAVOIDABLE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE WATER WITH THESE GENTLE GIANTS. 230 00:28:19,964 --> 00:28:23,535 >>> TO HAVE SOMEONE TRUST YOU ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THEIR SECRETS, TO INVITE YOU INTO THEIR HOME IS NOT SOMETHING THAT 231 00:28:23,601 --> 00:28:43,855 WILL EVER BE LOST ON ME. >> CECILIA VEGA ON BECOMING A 232 00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:58,002 >>> YANNICK NEZET-SEGUIN IS A CONDUCTOR AT THREE OPERAS, THE MET IN NEW YORK WHICH PINNED ON HIM THE BOLD REVAMPING OF ITS 233 00:28:58,069 --> 00:29:04,843 ARTISTIC MISSION. NOT THAT YOU'LL CATCH NEZET-SEGUIN SWEATING IT. AT 48, HE'S OBLITERATING THE 234 00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:17,822 STEREOTYPE OF THE STRICT, UNAPPROACHABLE MAESTRO, HIS HAIR BLEACHED PLATINUM BLOND, AND A SMILE PLASTERED TO HIS FACE. 235 00:29:17,889 --> 00:29:31,636 NOTED FOR HIS VIRTUOSITY, HE'S RE-IMAGINING THE MODERN ORCHESTRA AND ITS SOUNDTRACK IN THE MODERN CITY. 236 00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:35,306 YOU'D BE FORGIVEN FOR DOUBLE CHECKING YOUR TICKET TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WEREN'T AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN. 237 00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:47,318 THIS IS NEW YORK'S METROPOLITAN OPERA. AND IN THIS CORNER, THE MAESTRO, YANNICK NEZET-SEGUIN, ONLY THE 238 00:29:47,385 --> 00:30:02,433 THIRD MUSICAL DIRECTOR IN THE MET'S HISTORY. HE'S CONDUCTING A JAZZ-INFUSED OPERA ABOUT A REAL-LIFE BOXING 239 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:12,343 CHAMPION OF THE 1960s AND '70s. ALL OF THIS AS A RADICAL KEY CHANGE FROM THE STANDARD MET LINEUP OF PUCCINI AND WAGNER. 240 00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:22,754 NEZET-SEGUIN'S EYES REACH EVERYONE ALL AT ONCE. THE BOUNCE IN HIS BATON CONSECRATES EVERY NOTE. 241 00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:29,527 >> IT'S A CATHARTIC MOMENT WHERE, OH, MY GOD, THIS IS SO AMAZING. THIS IS SO IMPRESSIVE. 242 00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:35,833 THIS IS SO INTENSE, THIS IS SO EMOTIONAL. AND THIS CATHARTIC EXPERIENCE, WE FEEL TRANSFORMED AS A 243 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:44,676 DIFFERENT PERSON BEFORE AND AFTER LISTENING TO THESE PIECES. >> THERE SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING SACRED ABOUT YOUR MAKING MUSIC. 244 00:30:44,742 --> 00:30:49,414 AM I OVERSTATING THAT? >> NO. NO, YOU'RE NOT. I TRY NEVER TO TAKE MYSELF TOO 245 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:59,857 SERIOUSLY, BUT MUSIC HAS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. >> A PIANIST BY TRAINING, NEZET-SEGUIN BRINGS HIS 246 00:30:59,924 --> 00:31:07,232 SENSIBILITY TO BEAR UP AND DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD. IN PHILADELPHIA, HE IS THE CURRENT CUSTODIAN OF WHAT'S BEEN 247 00:31:07,298 --> 00:31:15,039 A WORLD-RENOWNED ORCHESTRA FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY. WE VISITED IN FEBRUARY AS THE CITY CELEBRATED THE CONTRACT 248 00:31:15,106 --> 00:31:23,915 EXTENSION THROUGH 2030 OF A MAESTRO KNOWN TO ALL BY HIS FIRST NAME. >> YANNICK! 249 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:33,291 >> THAT MORNING, YANNICK AND HIS MUSICIANS MADE THE PILGRIMAGE UP THE FAMED ROCKY STEPS, CLAD IN EAGLES GEAR. 250 00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:36,094 HE SEES THE ORCHESTRA NOT UNLIKE A SPORTS TEAM AS AN INSTRUMENT OF COHESION IN THE COMMUNITY. >> HEY! 251 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,598 HI, EVERYONE! HI! >> IN THE AFTERNOON, NEZET-SEGUIN STOPPED BY THE 252 00:31:40,665 --> 00:31:48,940 PHILLY'S HIGH SCHOOL TO GUEST CONDUCT THE STUDENTS. >> I THINK IF WE WERE TO AGREE TO BITE EVEN MORE ON EVERY NOTE, 253 00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:59,384 LIKE -- ♪ >> THAT'S IT! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! 254 00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:21,272 >> 450 MILES DUE NORTH BACK HOME IN MONTREAL, THEY SPEAK HIS LANGUAGE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. 255 00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:27,612 THE ORCHESTRE METROPOLITAIN, HE HAS LED THEM FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS. THAT'S HIS HUSBAND ON VIOLA. 256 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:30,782 THE DEPTH OF HIS PRODUCTION PRODUCES HYPNOTIC SOUND. LISTEN TO THIS, A REHEARSAL OF SIBELIUS FIFTH SYMPHONY. 257 00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:44,829 ♪ >> FOR WEEKS, YANNICK LEADS PERFORMANCES IN ALL THREE CITIES. 258 00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:51,102 JUST LAST SATURDAY, HE CONDUCTED A MATINEE IN NEW YORK AND THE EVENING PROGRAM IN PHILLY. THEN AGAIN, WHAT IS A CONDUCTOR 259 00:32:51,169 --> 00:33:00,478 IF NOT SOMEONE ABLE TO SYNCHRONIZE. >> I CAN'T DENY THAT IT'S A VERY DEMANDING SCHEDULE AND EVEN THE 260 00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:05,350 WORD SCHEDULE, SHOULD I EVER RETIRE, I WANT TO BAN THAT WORD FROM MY LIFE. >> DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE CHILD 261 00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:15,693 AMONG THE THREE ORCHESTRAS YOU CONDUCT? >> YOU CANNOT ASK ME THIS. ♪ 262 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:36,047 >> YET ONE CHILD IN PARTICULAR, AND ISN'T THIS ALWAYS THE CASE, DEMANDS EXTRA ATTENTION AND TLC. >> CAN WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT -- 263 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:41,285 >> AT THE MET, THE COUNTRY'S LARGEST PERFORMING ARTS INSTITUTION, WE WATCHED HIM WRANGLE 250 MUSICIANS AND 264 00:33:41,352 --> 00:33:53,765 SINGERS FOR A PRODUCTION OF WAGNER, A STALWART OPERA THAT GAVE US "THE BRIDAL CHORUS." AND NEZET-SEGUIN'S 265 00:33:53,831 --> 00:33:57,402 INTERPRETATIONS DO RIGHT BY THE MASTERS. >> WHAT I WANT IS TO RESPECT WHAT WAGNER WROTE IN THE SCORE. 266 00:33:57,468 --> 00:34:06,878 SO IT'S VERY POETIC AND MAGICAL, WHAT'S REALLY INDIVIDUAL IS ME BEING COMPLETELY AT THE SERVICE OF THE COMPOSER. 267 00:34:06,944 --> 00:34:10,481 >> YANNICK TOOK OVER THE PODIUM HERE IN 2018, AFTER HIS PREDECESSOR WAS FIRED FOR ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL 268 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:15,186 MISCONDUCT. FACING WEAK TICKET SALES AND PERPETUALLY STRAPPED FOR CASH, THE MET HAS HAD A HARD TIME 269 00:34:15,253 --> 00:34:20,425 REBOUNDING FROM COVID AND HAS DIPPED INTO ITS ENDOWMENT TO COVER AROUND 10% OF ITS $300 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET. 270 00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:30,334 >> MAESTRO TO THE PIT, PLEASE. >> THEY'VE TRIED COURTING A YOUNGER, MORE DIVERSE CROWD HERE BEFORE, BUT NEZET-SEGUIN IS 271 00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:41,546 DOING IT, HE'S BETTING THAT NEW COMPOSERS, SOME ADAPTED FROM BEST-SELLING BOOKS AND HOLLYWOOD HITS WILL BRING IN A WIDER 272 00:34:41,612 --> 00:34:52,757 AUDIENCE AND SHORE UP THE BOTTOM LINE. AND EARLY RESULTS SUGGEST HE IS RIGHT. 273 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:56,494 A RECENT PREMIERE OF THE OPERA "FIRE SHUT UP IN MY BONES" BASED ON A MEMOIR BY JOURNALIST CHARLES BLOW AND COMPOSED BY 274 00:34:56,561 --> 00:35:06,537 JAZZ LEGEND TERENCE BLANCHARD SOLD OUT AND OUTSOLD THE CLASSIC RIGOLETTO "HEAR THAT SEASON." AND HALF THE SEATS WERE FILLED 275 00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:15,379 BY FIRST-TIME OPERA GOERS. >> IT'S GREAT. I'M THINKING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE NEVER FELT COMPELLED OR DARE I 276 00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:22,053 SAY WELCOMED TO COME HERE. AND THAT IS MY MISSION. >> THE FIRST-TIMERS WERE 50%. YOU SAW THAT AS BOTH A TRIUMPH, 277 00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:30,695 BUT ALSO AN INDICTMENT. >> MOSTLY, IT'S A TREMENDOUS ENCOURAGEMENT TO CONTINUE IN THAT VEIN. 278 00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:35,099 >> THE MET WILL PUT ON 17 NEW AND RECENT WORKS OVER THE NEXT FIVE SEASONS. THIS AT A PLACE THAT ONCE WENT 279 00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:40,338 NEAR DECADES WITHOUT STAGING A NEW OPERA. THIS SPRING BROUGHT "CHAMPION," ANOTHER TERENCE BLANCHARD 280 00:35:40,404 --> 00:35:47,178 COMPOSITION BASED ON THE COMPLICATED LIFE OF A BISEXUAL PRIZEFIGHTER. WHAT CAN'T YOU WRITE AN OPERA 281 00:35:47,245 --> 00:35:52,850 ABOUT? >> HMM. NOTHING. >> HOW DO YOU THREAD THAT NEEDLE 282 00:35:52,917 --> 00:36:00,157 BETWEEN EXPERIMENTING AND BRINGING IN NEW AUDIENCES BUT ALSO NOT UPSETTING THE TRADITIONALISTS? 283 00:36:00,224 --> 00:36:14,305 >> THE TRUTH IS, I AM NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT UPSETTING TRADITIONALISTS. I THINK PEOPLE WHO LOVE OUR ART 284 00:36:14,372 --> 00:36:16,674 FORM ARE STILL GOING TO LOVE IT, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING TO PLAY SOME PUCCINI AND VERDI. TO ME, IT'S NEVER ABOUT NOT 285 00:36:16,741 --> 00:36:19,544 UPSETTING. AND IF SOME PEOPLE ARE UPSET, TOO BAD. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE TO COME TO 286 00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:27,885 EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. >> AND THAT'S ABOUT AS PRICKLY AS YOU'LL HEAR HIM GET. BEYOND YANNICK'S MUSICIANSHIP, 287 00:36:27,952 --> 00:36:36,727 HIS REAL HALLMARK MIGHT BE HIS LIGHT TOUCH. >> LET'S DO IT ONE MORE TIME. >> TAKE THIS REHEARSAL FOR 288 00:36:36,794 --> 00:36:38,863 "CHAMPION," THE FIRST TIME THE ORCHESTRA RHYTHM SECTION AND SINGERS PLAYED THE PIECE TOGETHER. 289 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:41,966 BUT ALSO THAT RARE COLLABORATION BETWEEN A CONDUCTOR AND A LIVING COMPOSER. >> HE GETS IT. 290 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:49,106 >> TERENCE BLANCHARD, A SEVEN-TIME GRAMMY WINNER IS THE FIRST BLACK COMPOSER IN THE MET'S HISTORY. 291 00:36:49,173 --> 00:36:53,444 >> HE GETS THE STORY, THE WHOLE NOTION OF BRINGING THESE DIFFERENT STYLES OF MUSIC TOGETHER. 292 00:36:53,511 --> 00:36:59,717 ONE OF THE REHEARSALS WITH THE ORCHESTRA, HE SAID, LISTEN, DON'T FOLLOW ME. LISTEN TO THE DRUMS. 293 00:36:59,784 --> 00:37:22,106 MOST CONDUCTORS DON'T DO THAT. >> I'M THERE FOR YOU. OKAY, COOL. >> WE SAW FIRSTHAND YANNICK'S 294 00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:27,411 LATONIA MOORE ASKED HIM TO SLOW THINGS DOWN. ♪ >> CAN YOU GO A HAIR SLOWER? 295 00:37:27,478 --> 00:37:31,082 I REALLY WANT TO GET EVERYTHING OUT. >> YEAH. SO RIGHT FROM THE BASE. 296 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,951 >> IS THERE A WORRY, THOUGH, THAT YOUR AUTHORITY MIGHT BE UNDERCUT BY ALL OF THESE GOOD VIBES? 297 00:37:34,018 --> 00:37:38,489 >> I THINK IT'S THE OLD CONCEPT OF AUTHORITY, WHICH IS, BECAUSE I SAY SO AND BECAUSE I CAN FIRE YOU, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT 298 00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:48,799 TO DO. THAT'S NOT WORKING ANYMORE. AND I WILL GO EVEN FURTHER. EVEN THE MASTERS OF THE PAST, 299 00:37:48,866 --> 00:38:05,249 FANTASTIC MUSICIAN, I RESPECT A LOT OF THIS, BUT YOU CAN HEAR SOME RECORDINGS WITH TOSCANINI, ESPECIALLY WITH FEARS, YOU COULD 300 00:38:05,316 --> 00:38:07,318 HEAR THE FEAR IN HIS VOICE. THAT'S NOT EXPRESSIVE. >> YOU CAN DISCERN THAT? >> OH, YEAH. 301 00:38:07,385 --> 00:38:13,958 I'M SURE YOU CAN. TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH ON THE STAGE IS ALREADY NERVE-RACKING. IF YOU HAVE A CONDUCTOR WHO'S 302 00:38:14,025 --> 00:38:20,698 WAITING FOR YOU TO FAIL, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE NERVE-RACKING. THE MUSIC DOESN'T WIN. 303 00:38:20,765 --> 00:38:29,573 THE MUSIC WINS WHEN EVERYBODY FEELS FREE TO EXPRESS WHO THEY ARE. >> YANNICK FOUND THAT FREEDOM 304 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,779 FOR HIMSELF AS EARLY AS GRADE SCHOOL. HERE HE IS LEADING AN IMAGINARY ORCHESTRA IN FRONT OF 305 00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:43,154 CLASSMATES. HE STUDIED AT THE CONSERVATORY IN MONTREAL, A MUSIC TOWN WITH A CHURCH ON EVERY CORNER. 306 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:49,527 HE LED THE CHURCH CHOIR IN HIS TEENS AND TRAINED HIS EAR IN LESS FORMAL WAYS, TOO. >> I WOULD GO TO A RECORD STORE 307 00:38:49,593 --> 00:39:00,905 AND BUY CDs. AND DISCOVER REPERTOIRE AFTER REPERTOIRE. I WANTED THEN TO HEAR EVERY 308 00:39:00,971 --> 00:39:16,120 VERSION, AND BUY EVERY VERSION OF EVERY SYMPHONY. AND I'M NOT SHY TO SAY THAT IT SHAPED A LOT OF WHO I AM AS A 309 00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:18,255 MUSICIAN. BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, I BECAME A COLLECTION OF LIKE 12,000 CDs. >> LAST WINTER, WE VISITED HIS 310 00:39:18,322 --> 00:39:22,860 PARENTS AT YANNICK'S CHILDHOOD HOME, THE KIND OF FOLKS WHO KEEP EVERY CLIPPING. YANNICK TOLD US WHEN HE WAS A 311 00:39:22,927 --> 00:39:26,564 BOY, HE COLLECTED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS, MAYBE 10,000 CDs. >> MORE THAN THAT. >> HE WASN'T EXAGGERATING? 312 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:34,872 >> NO, NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. >> WHERE DID YOU PUT THEM? >> HE MADE A SHELF. >> AND IT WAS HIS MOM THAT 313 00:39:34,939 --> 00:39:47,885 MANAGED YANNICK'S SCHEDULE THROUGHOUT HIS 30s AS HE WORKED THE INTERNATIONAL CIRCUIT, GUEST CONDUCTING OVER 100 ORCHESTRAS. 314 00:39:47,952 --> 00:39:53,090 HE MADE HIS MET DEBUT IN 2009, PERSISTENCE PAYING OFF. AND IF TODAY HE'S LIVING THE DREAM, HE'S ALSO CONSCIOUS TO 315 00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:58,929 LIVE HIS LIFE. HE AND PIERRE GO ON THE ROAD TOGETHER. WE MET THEM AT A SPOT IN OLD 316 00:39:58,996 --> 00:40:08,773 MONTREAL, WHERE THEY HAD CELEBRATED THEIR WEDDING. THEY MAKE A POINT OF GOING OUT AFTER EVERY PERFORMANCE. 317 00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:16,080 >> FRIENDS, FAMILY, MEMBERS OF THE ORCHESTRA, COLLEAGUES. SOME PEOPLE TOGETHER TO EAT WELL AND DRINK A LITTLE. 318 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:24,421 >> OF ALL THE MUSICAL MOMENTS IN THE COUPLE'S HISTORY, WE WERE SURPRISED WHEN YANNICK HIGHLIGHTED THIS ONE. 319 00:40:24,488 --> 00:40:31,729 THE TIME PIERRE AND CELINE DION CELEBRATED HIM ON A POPULAR QUEBEC TALK SHOW, A KIND OF MUSICAL "THIS IS YOUR LIFE." 320 00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:40,104 >> IT'S ONE OF THE MOST MOVING MOMENTS OF MY LIFE. NOT EVERYONE CAN SAY THEY SUNG A DUET WITH CELINE DION. 321 00:40:40,171 --> 00:40:48,979 >> BOCELLI, BARBRA STREISAND AND -- AND HERE. AND PIERRE. >> MAYBE IT'S A HARD TURN FROM 322 00:40:49,046 --> 00:40:59,456 CELINE TO THE MET FOR MOST CONDUCTORS, BUT NOT SO FOR YANNICK NEZET-SEGUIN. YES, HE TAKES MUSIC SERIOUSLY 323 00:40:59,523 --> 00:41:03,761 BUT RESISTS BEING TOO PRECIOUS ABOUT IT. HE IS TOO BUSY SMUDGING BOUNDARIES THAT HAVE LONG KEPT 324 00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:20,444 SOME AUDIENCES AWAY FROM CLASSICAL MUSIC AND OPERA. >> I WOULD LOVE THAT WHEN I FINISH MY TIME ON EARTH, THAT NO 325 00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:24,515 ONE EVER SAYS AGAIN, OH, CLASSICAL MUSIC, IT'S NOT FOR ME. IT'S FOR THE EDUCATED. 326 00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:30,287 IT'S FOR THE RICH. IT'S FOR THE WHITE. WHATEVER IT IS. YOU KNOW, I WANT EVERYONE TO 327 00:41:30,354 --> 00:41:36,994 FEEL OH, YEAH, I COULD LIKE IT, SOME OF IT. I DON'T LIKE MOZART, BUT I LIKE BLANCHARD. 328 00:41:37,061 --> 00:41:39,630 FINE, BUT AT LEAST YOU FEEL THAT YOU COULD GO THERE, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR YOU. 329 00:41:39,697 --> 00:41:47,438 >> WHAT WOULD PUCCINI AND >> WHAT WOULD PUCCINI AND VERDI AND WAGNER MAKE OF ALL OF THIS? ONE WOULD SUSPECT THAT THEY 330 00:41:47,504 --> 00:41:52,276 WOULD JOIN IN THE APPLAUSE. THEY AFTER ALL WERE ONCE MUSICAL BOUNDARY PUSHERS, TOO. 331 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:06,624 >>> NOW, THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES." >> TONIGHT'S STORY ABOUT THE SPERM WHALES OF DOMINICA RECALLS 332 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:14,965 ANOTHER MARITIME ADVENTURE. IN THE FALL OF 2019, WE REPORTED ON THE SOMETIMES UNCOMFORTABLE COMEBACK OF GREAT WHITE SHARKS 333 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:28,946 ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST. BILL WHITAKER WENT TO CAPE COD WITH THE MASSACHUSETTS DEPARTMENT OF MARINE FISHERIES 334 00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:32,082 AND TO NOVA SCOTIA WITH A RESEARCH ORGANIZATION TO SEE THE GIANT PREDATORS UP CLOSE, AS THEY ARE TAGGED AND EQUIPPED 335 00:42:32,149 --> 00:42:38,856 WITH SATELLITE TRACKING TRANSMITTERS. TRANSMITTERS ATTACHED, THIS 12-FOOT SHARK, NOW NAMED SYDNEY, 336 00:42:38,923 --> 00:42:47,364 WAS BACK IN THE WATER AND ITS TRACKER SHOWED HEADING SOUTH FOR THE CAROLINAS AND FLORIDA. ALTHOUGH SYDNEY'S SIGNAL HAS 337 00:42:47,431 --> 00:42:51,936 BEEN LOST, THEY REPORT 87 OTHER SHARKS IT TAGGED ARE BEGINNING TO SWIM NORTH AGAIN FOR THE SUMMER. 338 00:42:52,002 --> 00:42:56,140 I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH