>>> MORE THAN 350 LAWSUITS AGAINST SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE FORWARD THIS YEAR.
TONIGHT, YOU'LL HEAR FROM SOME OF THE FAMILIES WHO ARE TAKING THEM ON. >> WE'RE BEING GASLIGHTED BY THE
BIG TECH COMPANIES THAT IT IS OUR FAULT, WHEN REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS PARENTS IS BANNING TOGETHER AND SAYING, NO,
YOU NEED TO DO BETTER. I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN, YOU NEED TO DO BETTER. >>> I WILL SIT HERE AND SPEAK
TRUTH TO YOU. >> THINK YOU KNOW PRINCE HARRY'S STORY? THINK AGAIN.
FROM RECENT ROYAL INFIGHTING LITERALLY WITH PRINCE WILLIAM. >> HE WAS SHOUTING AT ME AND I WAS SHOUTING BACK AT HIM AND HE
SNAPPED AND PUSHED ME TO THE FLOOR. >> TO WHY HIS MARRIAGE TO MEGHAN MARKLE HAS BEEN RELENTLESS
TABLOID FODDER. >> THE FACT THAT SHE WAS AMERICAN, AN ACTRESS, DIVORCED, BLACK, BIRACIAL WITH A BLACK
MOTHER. >> THOSE WERE SOURCES OF MISTRUST, IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THE BRITISH PRESS IS LIKE,
HE'S CHANGED, SHE MUST BE A WITCH. >> TONIGHT, PRINCE HARRY ON "60 MINUTES."
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JOHN WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECELIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60
MINUTES." >>> WHEN WHISTLE-BLOWER FRANCES HAUGEN PULLED BACK THE CURTAIN ON FACEBOOK IN THE FALL OF 2021,
THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF INTERNAL DOCUMENTS SHOWED TROUBLING SIGNS THAT THE SOCIAL MEDIA GIANT KNEW ITS PLATFORMS COULD BE
NEGATIVELY IMPACTING YOUTH AND WERE DOING LITTLE TO EFFECTIVELY CHANGE IT. WITH AROUND 21 MILLION AMERICAN
ADOLESCENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, PARENTS TOOK NOTE. NOW, FAMILIES ARE SUING SOCIAL MEDIA.
SINCE WE FIRST REPORTED THIS STORY LAST DECEMBER, THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES PURSUING LAWSUITS HAS GROWN TO OVER 2,000.
MORE THAN 350 LAWSUITS ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE FORWARD THIS YEAR AGAINST TIKTOK, SNAPCHAT, YOUTUBE, ROBLOX, AND META, THE
PARENT COMPANY TO INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FROM SOME OF THE FAMILIES SUING SOCIAL
MEDIA. WE WANT TO WARN YOU THAT SOME OF THE CONTENT IN THIS STORY IS ALARMING.
BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE BECAUSE PARENTS SAY THE POSTS IMPACTED THEIR KIDS' MENTAL HEALTH, AND IN SOME
CASES, HELPED LEAD TO THE DEATH OF THEIR CHILDREN. >> THEY'RE HOLDING OUR CHILDREN HOSTAGE AND THEY'RE SEEKING AND
PREYING ON THEM. >> PREYING ON THEM? >> YES. >> THE SPENCE FAMILY IS SUING
SOCIAL MEDIA GIANT META. KATHLEEN AND JEFF SPENCE SAY INSTAGRAM LED THEIR DAUGHTER ALEXIS INTO DEPRESSION AND THE
AN EATING DISORDER AT THE AGE OF 12. >> WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE SLOWLY LOSING HER.
WE REALLY HAD NO COMPREHENSION TO HOW SEVERE SOCIAL MEDIA HAD AFFECTED OUR DAUGHTER. SHE WAS BEING DRAWN INTO THIS
HIDDEN SPACE AND IT IS A DARK WORLD. >> IT BEGAN AFTER THE SPENCES, BOTH MIDDLE SCHOOLTEACHERS FROM
LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK, GAVE 11-YEAR-OLD ALEXIS A CELL PHONE TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THEM AFTER SCHOOL.
>> WE HAD VERY STRICT RULES FROM THE MOMENT SHE HAD THE PHONE. THE PHONE WAS NEVER ALLOWED IN THE ROOM AT NIGHT.
WE WOULD KEEP THE PHONE IN THE HALL. >> WE CHECKED THE PHONES. WE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE
PHONES. >> I WOULD WAIT FOR MY PARENTS TO FALL ASLEEP AND SIT IN THE HALLWAY OR SNEAK MY PHONE IN MY
ROOM. I WASN'T ALLOWED TO USE A LOT OF APPS AND THEY HAD A LOT OF PARENTAL CONTROLS ON.
>> SO HOW QUICKLY DID YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND THE RESTRICTIONS? >> PRETTY QUICKLY.
>> HOPING TO CONNECT AND KEEP UP WITH FRIENDS, ALEXIS JOINED INSTAGRAM. INSTAGRAM POLICY MANDATES USERS
ARE 13 YEARS OLD. ALEXIS WAS 11. >> I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO BE 13. >> IT ASKS ARE YOU 13 YEARS OR
OLDER? I CHECKED THE BOX YES AND KEPT GOING. >> AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY
CHECKS? >> NO. NO VERIFICATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> IF I PICKED UP YOUR PHONE, WOULD I HAVE SEEN THE INSTAGRAM APP ON THERE? >> NO.
THERE WERE APPS YOU COULD USE TO DISGUISE IT AS ANOTHER APP SO YOU COULD DOWNLOAD A CALCULATOR, CALCULATOR, BUT IT IS INSTAGRAM.
>> THERE WAS ALWAYS SOME WORK AROUND. >> SHE WAS OUTWITTING YOU? >> OUTWITTING US.
>> SHE WAS ADDICTED TO SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE COULDN'T STOP IT. IT WAS MUCH BIGGER THAN US.
>> NOW, 20, ALEXIS SAYS AN INNOCENT SEARCH ON INSTAGRAM FOR FITNESS ROUTINES LED HER INTO A DARK WORLD.
>> STARTED AS LIKE FITNESS STUFF AND THEN I GUESS THAT WOULD SPARK THE ALGORITHM TO SHOW ME DIETS, THEN STARTED TO SHIFT
INTO EATING DISORDERS. >> WHAT WERE YOU SEEING? >> PEOPLE WOULD POST PHOTOS OF THEMSELVES WHO WERE VERY SICKLY
OR JUST VERY THIN, AND USING THEM TO PROMOTE EATING DISORDERS. >> THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES
THAT WERE SENT TO ALEXIS THROUGH INSTAGRAM'S ALGORITHMS, WHICH PROCESS THE USERS' BROWSING HISTORY AND PERSONAL DATA, THEN
PUSH CONTENT TO THEM THEY NEVER DIRECTLY ASKED FOR. >> WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM LOOKING AT THESE PRO ANOREXIC
WEBSITES? >> A LOT. LEARNING ABOUT DIET PILLS AND HOW TO LOSE WEIGHT WHEN YOU'RE
11 AND GOING THROUGH PUBERTY AND YOUR BODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHANGING, IT'S HARD. >> WHEN DID THAT STOP BEING
SOMETHING THAT YOU LOOKED AT AND START BEING SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE DOING TO YOURSELF? >> WITHIN MONTHS.
>> DID IT NORMALIZE IT FOR YOU? DID YOU THINK, WELL, OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS? >> DEFINITELY.
THEY NEEDED HELP. I NEEDED HELP. AND INSTEAD OF GETTING HELP, I WAS GETTING ADVICE ON HOW TO
CONTINUE. >> BY THE TIME SHE WAS 12, ALEXIS HAD DEVELOPED AN EATING DISORDER.
SHE HAD MULTIPLE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNTS AND SAYS SHE WOULD SPEND FIVE HOURS A DAY SCROLLING THROUGH THE APP, EVEN THOUGH IT
OFTEN MADE HER FEEL DEPRESSED. SHE DREW THIS PICTURE OF HERSELF IN HER DIARY, CRYING, SURROUNDED BY HER PHONE AND LAPTOP, WITH
THOUGHTS READING, STUPID, FAT, KILL YOURSELF. >> I WAS STRUGGLING WITH MY MENTAL HEALTH.
I WAS STRUGGLING WITH MY DEPRESSION AND MY BODY IMAGE AND SOCIAL MEDIA DID NOT HELP WITH MY CONFIDENCE.
IF ANYTHING, IT MADE ME LIKE HATE MYSELF. >> IT ALL CAME A HEAD HER SOPHOMORE YEAR WHEN ALEXIS
POSTED ON INSTAGRAM SHE DIDN'T DESERVE TO EXIST. A FRIEND ALERTED A SCHOOL COUNSELOR.
>> THAT WAS THE SCARIEST DAY OF OUR LIVES. I GOT A CALL TO COME TO THE SCHOOL.
AND I WENT THERE. AND THEY WERE JUST SHOWING ME ALL OF THESE INSTAGRAM POSTS OF HOW ALEXIS WANTED TO KILL
HERSELF AND HURT HERSELF AND IF INSTAGRAM IS REALLY -- HAS ALL THIS SOFTWARE TO PROTECT THEM, WHY WAS THAT NOT FLAGGED, WHY
WAS THAT NOT IDENTIFIED? >> THIS PREVIOUSLY UNPUBLISHED INTERNAL DOCUMENT REVEALS FACEBOOK KNEW INSTAGRAM WAS
PUSHING GIRLS TO DANGEROUS CONTENT. IT SAYS IN 2021, AN INSTAGRAM EMPLOYEE RAN AN INTERNAL
INVESTIGATION ON EATING DISORDERS BY OPENING UP A FALSE ACCOUNT AS A 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL LOOKING FOR DIET TIPS.
SHE WAS LED TO THIS CONTENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO FOLLOW SKINNY BINGE, AND APPLE CORE ANOREXIC. OTHER MEMOS SHOW FACEBOOK
EMPLOYEES RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT COMPANY RESEARCH THAT SHOWS INSTAGRAM MADE 1 IN 3 TEEN GIRLS FEEL WORSE ABOUT THEIR BODIES
AND FELT HIGHER RATES OF ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN YOU SAW THOSE FACEBOOK PAPERS FOR THE
FIRST TIME? >> SICKENING. THE FACT THAT I WAS SITTING THERE, STRUGGLING, AND HOPING TO
SAVE MY DAUGHTER'S LIFE, AND THEY HAD ALL THESE DOCUMENTS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THAT THEY COULD HAVE PROTECTED HER, AND
THEY CHOSE TO IGNORE THAT RESEARCH. >> ATTORNEY MATT BERGMAN REPRESENTS THE SPENCE FAMILY.
HE STARTED THE SOCIAL MEDIA VICTIMS LAW CENTER AFTER READING THE FACEBOOK PAPERS. AND IS NOW WORKING WITH MORE
THAN 1800 FAMILIES WHO ARE PURSUING LAWSUITS AGAINST SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES LIKE META. >> TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WHEN
THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SAFETY OF OUR KIDS AND PROFITS, THEY ALWAYS CHOOSE PROFITS.
>> THIS SUMMER, BERGMAN AND HIS TEAM ARE STARTING THE DISCOVERY PROCESS FOR THE CASE AGAINST META AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES, A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SUIT THAT HE SAYS IS MORE ABOUT CHANGE IN POLICY THAN FINANCIAL COMPENSATION.
BERGMAN SPENT 25 YEARS AS A PRODUCT LIABILITY ATTORNEY, SPECIALIZING IN ASBESTOS AND MESOTHELIOMA CASES.
HE ARGUES THE DESIGN OF SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS IS ULTIMATELY HURTING KIDS. >> THEY HAVE INTENTIONALLY
DESIGNED A PRODUCT THAT IS ADDICTIVE. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF CHILDREN STAY ONLINE, THEY MAKE MORE
MONEY. DOESN'T MATTER HOW HARMFUL THE MATERIAL IS. >> THE FACT THAT THESE KIDS
ENDED UP SEEING THE THINGS THAT THEY SAW THAT WERE SO DISTURBING WASN'T BY ACCIDENT. IT WAS BY DESIGN.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE. >> ISN'T IT THE PARENTS' JOB TO MONITOR THIS STUFF?
>> WELL, OF COURSE IT IS. I'M ALL FOR PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. BUT THESE PRODUCTS ARE
EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO EVADE PARENTAL AUTHORITY. >> WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? >> NUMBER ONE IS AGENT IDENTITY
VERIFICATION. THAT TECHNOLOGY EXISTS. IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HOOK UP ON TINDER, THERE IS TECHNOLOGY
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE. NUMBER TWO, TURN OFF THE ALGORITHMS.
THERE IS NO REASON WHY ALEXIS SPENCE, WHO WAS INTERESTED IN EXERCISE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TOWARD ANOREXIC
CONTENT. NUMBER THREE, WARNINGS SO THAT PARENTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. LET'S BE REALISTIC, YOU'RE NEVER
GOING TO HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS BE 100% SAFE, BUT THESE CHANGES WOULD MAKE THEM SAFER.
>> HER FAVORITE POSE. >> RIGHT NOW THE ROBERTS FAMILY SAYS SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS.
ENGLAND ROBERTS WAS THE BABY IN A LARGE FAMILY. THE CENTER OF HER PARENTS TONY AND BRANDY'S WORLD.
♪ ♪ >> SHE MADE EVERY DAY -- >> SPECIAL. >> EVERY DAY.
EVERY DAY FELT LIKE CHRISTMAS HERE. >> BUT ENGLAND'S LIFE ONLINE TOLD A DIFFERENT STORY AS THE
PANDEMIC PLAYED OUT, ENGLAND WROTE ABOUT STRUGGLES WITH SELF-WORTH, RELATIONSHIPS AND MENTAL HEALTH.
ONE AUGUST NIGHT IN 2020, JUST A FEW HOURS AFTER TONY AND BRANDY KISSED THEIR 14-YEAR-OLD SMILING DAUGHTER GOOD NIGHT, BRANDY
RECEIVED A TEXT FROM A PARENT OF ONE OF ENGLAND'S FRIENDS, WHO WAS WORRIED ABOUT ENGLAND AND SUGGESTED THEY CHECK ON HER.
>> WE WENT UPSTAIRS AND CHECKED AND HER DOOR WAS LOCKED AND THAT WAS KIND OF ODD. BUT I TOOK THE KEY FROM THE TOP
AND WE OPENED THE DOOR AND NO ENGLAND. AND WHEN I TURNED AROUND, THAT'S WHEN I FOUND HER.
WHEN YOU FIND YOUR CHILD HANGING AND YOU ARE IN THAT MOMENT IN DISBELIEF IS JUST NO WAY, NOT OUR BABY, NOT OUR CHILD, AND
THEN ULTIMATELY I FAULT MYSELF. >> WHY DO YOU FAULT YOURSELF? >> I'M HER DAD. I'M SUPPOSED TO KNOW.
>> PRIOR TO THAT NIGHT, YOU HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS DEPRESSED? >> NOT EVEN CLOSE. >> LIKE THE SPENCE FAMILY, TONY
ROBERTS STARTED CONNECTING THE DOTS AFTER THE FACEBOOK PAPERS CAME OUT. >> I KNEW HER PASSWORD.
>> AND BEGAN DIGGING THROUGH HIS DAUGHTER'S PHONE FOR ANSWERS HE FOUND AN INSTAGRAM POST SENT TO ENGLAND FROM A FRIEND.
>> THERE WAS A VIDEO AND THAT VIDEO WAS A LADY ON INSTAGRAM PRETENDING TO HANG HERSELF AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT OUR CHILD
DID BECAUSE YOU ASK YOURSELF, HOW DOES SHE COME UP WITH THIS IDEA? AND THEN WHEN I DID THE
RESEARCH, THERE IT WAS. SHE SAW IT ON INSTAGRAM, IT WAS ON HER PHONE. >> IF THAT VIDEO WASN'T SENT TO
HER, BECAUSE SHE COPIED IT, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE -- >> SHE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD -- >> A WAY OF KNOWING HOW TO DO
THAT CERTAIN WAY OF HANGING YOURSELF. >> NEARLY A YEAR AND A HALF AFTER ENGLAND'S DEATH, THAT
HANGING VIDEO WAS STILL CIRCULATING ON INSTAGRAM WITH AT LEAST 1500 VIEWS. TONY ROBERTS SAYS IT WAS TAKEN
DOWN IN DECEMBER 2021, THE ROBERTS ARE SUING META, THE PARENT COMPANY TO INSTAGRAM. >> IF THEY SO CALL MONITOR AND
DO THINGS, HOW COULD IT STAY ON THAT SITE? PART OF THEIR POLICY IS THEY DON'T ALLOW FOR SELF-HARM,
VIDEOS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO WHO IS HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE? >> META DECLINED OUR REQUEST FOR
AN INTERVIEW, BUT ITS GLOBAL HEAD OF SAFETY GAVE US THIS STATEMENT, TELLING US, WE WANT TEENS TO BE SAFE ONLINE AND
INSTAGRAM DOESN'T ALLOW VIDEOS PROMOTING SELF-HARM AND EATING DISORDERS, AND META HAS IMPROVED THE AGE VERIFICATION TECHNOLOGY.
BUT OUR COLLEAGUE WAS ABLE TO LIE HER AGE AND SIGN UP FOR INSTAGRAM AS A 13-YEAR-OLD WITH NO VERIFICATION.
WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO SEARCH FOR SKINNY AND HARMFUL CONTENT, AND WHILE THIS PROMPT CAME UP ASKING IF WE WANTED HELP, WE INSTEAD
CLICKED SEE POSTS AND EASILY FOUND CONTENT PROMOTING ANOREXIA AND SELF-HARM. SHOWING MORE RIGOROUS CHANGE IS
NEEDED. A CHALLENGE THE SPENCE AND ROBERTS FAMILIES ARE READY FOR. >> WE'RE BEING GASLIGHTED BY THE
BIG TECH COMPANIES THAT IT IS OUR FAULT. WHEN REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS PARENTS IS BANNING
TOGETHER AND SAYING, NO, YOU NEED TO DO BETTER. I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN. YOU NEED TO DO BETTER.
>> WE LOST, WE LEARNED, BUT WHAT'S GOING TO STOP THESE COMPANIES FROM CONTINUING TO LET THINGS HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T
CHANGE OR BE FORCED TO MAKE A CHANGE? >> SOCIAL MEDIA IS A SILENT KILLER FOR OUR CHILDREN'S
GENERATION. THAT'S THE CONCLUSION I'VE COME TO. WHY IS EVERYONE IN POWER WHO CAN
HELP CHANGE THIS, WHY IS IT NOT CHANGING QUICK ENOUGH? IF OUR CHILDREN ARE TRULY OUR FUTURE WHAT IS THE WAIT?
>> THAT CHANGE MAY FINALLY BE COMING. LATE LAST MONTH, THE SURGEON GENERAL ISSUED A STARK WARNING
THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS POSING A PROFOUND RISK OF HARM TO THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF AMERICA'S YOUTH AND IS CALLING
ON THE GOVERNMENT AND TECH COMPANIES TO IMPLEMENT TOUGHER STANDARDS FOR YOUTH. >>> PRINCE HARRY AND HIS WIFE,
THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUSSEX, STEPPED BACK FROM THEIR ROYAL DUTIES IN 2020. LAST MONTH HARRY ATTENDED HIS
FATHER'S CORONATION CEREMONY. IT WAS AN AWKWARD APPEARANCE FOR THE 38-YEAR-OLD PRINCE AFTER THE RELEASE EARLIER THIS YEAR OF HIS
MEMOIR "SPARE," THE TITLE A NOD TO HIS BACKUP ROLE IN THE LINE OF SUCCESSION. AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN JANUARY,
THE BOOK IS A STUNNING BREAK WITH ROYAL PROTOCOL. IT IS A DEEPLY PERSONAL ACCOUNT OF PRINCE HARRY'S DECADES LONG
STRUGGLE WITH GRIEF AFTER THE DEATH OF HIS MOTHER PRINCESS DIANA AND A REVEALING LOOK AT HIS FRACTURED RELATIONSHIPS WITH
HIS FATHER, KING CHARLES, HIS STEPMOTHER, QUEEN CAMILLA, AND HIS BROTHER, PRINCE WILLIAM, THE HEIR TO HIS SPARE.
YOU WRITE ABOUT A CONTENTIOUS MEETING YOU HAD WITH HIM IN 2021, YOU SAID I LOOKED AT WILL, REALLY LOOKED AT HIM FOR THE
FIRST TIME SINCE WE WERE BOYS, I TOOK IT ALL IN, HIS FAMILIAR SCOWL, WHICH HAD ALWAYS BEEN HIS DEFAULT IN DEALINGS WITH ME, HIS
ALARMING BALDNESS MORE ADVANCED THAN MY OWN, HIS FAMOUS RESEMBLANCE TO MUMMY, WHICH WAS FADING WITH TIME, WITH AGE,
THAT'S PRETTY CUTTING. >> I DON'T SEE IT AS CUTTING AT ALL. MY BROTHER AND I LOVE EACH
OTHER. I LOVE HIM DEEPLY. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PAIN BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.
ESPECIALLY THE LAST SIX YEARS. NONE OF ANYTHING THAT I'VE WRITTEN, ANYTHING I'VE INCLUDED, IS EVER INTENDED TO HURT MY
FAMILY. BUT IT DOES GIVE A FULL PICTURE OF THE SITUATION AS WE WERE GROWING UP.
AND ALSO SQUASHES THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW MY WIFE WAS THE ONE THAT DESTROYED THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE TWO BROTHERS.
>> I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD WATCHED YOU AND YOUR BROTHER GROW UP AND FEEL LIKE YOU TWO WERE INSEPARABLE AND YET
IN READING THE BOOK, YOU HAVE LIVED SEPARATE LIVES FROM THE TIME YOUR MOM DIED. >> MM-HMM.
>> EVEN WHEN YOU WERE IN THE SAME SCHOOL, IN HIGH SCHOOL -- >> SIBLING RIVALRY. >> YOUR BROTHER TOLD YOU PRETEND
WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. >> YEAH, AT THE TIME IT HURT. I COULDN'T MAKE SENSE OF IT. WE'RE AT THE SAME SCHOOL.
I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU FOR AGES. NOW WE GET TO HANG OUT TOGETHER AND, LIKE, NO, NO, WHEN WE'RE AT SCHOOL, WE DON'T KNOW EACH
OTHER. I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY. YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE DEALT WITH IT TWO VERY DIFFERENT WAYS. >> WILLIAM TRIED TO TALK TO YOU
OCCASIONALLY ABOUT YOUR MOM. BUT AS A CHILD, YOU COULD NOT -- YOU COULDN'T RESPOND. >> FOR ME, IT WAS NEVER A CASE
OF I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I NEVER, EVER THOUGHT THAT MAYBE TALKING ABOUT IT WITH MY BROTHER OR WITH ANYBODY ELSE AT THAT POINT WOULD BE THERAPEUTIC.
>> IN AUGUST, 1997, HARRY AND WILLIAM WERE VACATIONING IN SCOTLAND WITH THEIR FATHER. HARRY WAS 12, WILLIAM 15.
THEY WERE ASLEEP AT BALMORAL CASTLE WHEN HARRY WAS AWAKENED BY HIS FATHER WHO TOLD HIM HIS MOTHER HAD BEEN IN A CAR CRASH
IN PARIS. IN THE BOOK, YOU WRITE, HE SAYS, THEY TRIED, DARLING BOY, I'M AFRAID SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT.
THESE PHRASES REMAIN IN MY MIND LIKE DARTS ON A BOARD, YOU SAY. DID YOU CRY? >> NO.
NO. NEVER SHED A SINGLE TEAR AT THAT POINT. I WAS IN SHOCK.
12 YEARS OLD. SORT OF 7:30 IN THE MORNING, EARLY, FATHER COMES IN, SITS ON YOUR BED, PUTS HIS HAND ON YOUR
KNEE AND TELLS YOU THERE HAS BEEN AN ACCIDENT. I COULDN'T BELIEVE. >> AND YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK
THAT PA DIDN'T HUG ME, HE WASN'T GOOD AT SHOWING EMOTIONS UNDER NORMAL SITUATIONS, BUT HIS HAND FELL ON MY KNEE AND HE SAID IT'S
GOING TO BE OKAY, BUT NOTHING WAS OKAY AFTER THAT FOR A LONG TIME. >> NO, NOTHING WAS OKAY.
>> HARRY SAYS HIS MEMORIES OF THE NEXT FEW DAYS ARE FRAGMENTED, BUT HE REMEMBERS THIS, GREETING MOURNERS OUTSIDE
KENSINGTON PALACE IN LONDON THE DAY BEFORE HIS MOTHER'S FUNERAL. WHEN YOU SEE THOSE VIDEOS NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK IT IS BIZARRE. BECAUSE I SEE WILLIAM AND ME SMILING, I REMEMBER THE GUILT THAT I FELT.
>> GUILT ABOUT -- >> THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE -- THAT WE WERE MEETING WERE SHOWING MORE EMOTION THAN WE
WERE SHOWING. MAYBE MORE EMOTION THAN WE EVEN FELT. >> THEY WERE CRYING, BUT YOU
WEREN'T. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF TEARS. I TALK ABOUT HOW WET PEOPLE'S HANDS WERE.
I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AT FIRST. >> THEIR HANDS WERE WET -- >> FROM WIPING THEIR OWN TEARS
AWAY. I DO REMEMBER ONE OF THE STRANGEST PARTS TO IT WAS TAKING FLOWERS FROM PEOPLE AND THEN
PLACING THOSE FLOWERS WITH THE REST OF THEM. AS IF I WAS SOME SORT OF MIDDLE PERSON FOR THEIR GRIEF.
AND THAT REALLY STOOD OUT FOR ME. >> THE FUNERAL, ON A COOL SEPTEMBER MORNING, WAS WATCHED
BY AS MANY AS 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. PERHAPS THE MOST INDELIBLE IMAGE, PRINCE HARRY AND HIS
BROTHER, WALKING BEHIND THEIR MOTHER'S CASKET, ON ITS WAY TO WESTMINSTER ABBEY. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT
WALK? >> HOW QUIET IT WAS. I REMEMBER THE OCCASIONAL WAIL AND SCREAMING OF SOMEONE.
I REMEMBER THE ROAD, THE BRIDLES OF THE HORSES, THE GUN CARRIAGE, THE WHEELS, THE OCCASIONAL GRAVEL STONE UNDERNEATH YOUR
SHOE. BUT MAINLY THE SILENCE. >> AFTER THE SERVICE, PRINCESS DIANA'S BODY WAS BROUGHT FOR
BURIAL TO HER FAMILY'S ANCESTRAL ESTATE. >> ONCE MY MOTHER'S COFFIN WENT INTO THE GROUND, THAT'S THE
FIRST TIME I CRIED. THERE WAS NEVER ANOTHER TIME. >> ALL THROUGH YOUR TEEN YEARS, YOU DIDN'T CRY ABOUT IT?
>> NO. >> YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE SHE WAS DEAD. >> FOR A LONG TIME.
I JUST REFUSED TO ACCEPT SHE WAS GONE. PART OF, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO US, BUT PART OF
MAYBE THIS IS ALL PART OF A PLAN. >> YOU REALLY BELIEVED THAT MAYBE SHE HAD JUST DECIDED TO
DISAPPEAR FOR A TIME? >> FOR A TIME AND SHE WOULD CALL US AND WE WOULD JOIN HER. >> HOW LONG DID YOU BELIEVE
THAT? >> YEARS. MANY, MANY YEARS. WILLIAM AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AS
WELL. HE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS. >> YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK, YOU SAY, I WOULD OFTEN SAY IT TO
MYSELF FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, MAYBE THIS IS THE DAY. MAYBE THIS IS THE DAY SHE'S GOING TO REAPPEAR.
>> YEAH. HOPE. I HAD HUGE AMOUNTS OF HOPE. >> HE HELD ON TO THAT HOPE INTO
ADULTHOOD, WHEN HARRY WAS 20 HE ASKED TO SEE THE POLICE REPORT ABOUT THE CRASH THAT KILLED HIS MOTHER, HER BOYFRIEND DODI AL
FAYED AND THEIR DRIVER HENRI PAUL WHILE THEY WERE BEING PURSUED BY PAPARAZZI IN THE PARIS TUNNEL.
>> THE FILE CONTAINED PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CRASH SCENE. WHY DID YOU WANT TO SEE IT? >> PROOF THAT SHE WAS IN THE
CAR, PROOF THAT SHE WAS INJURED, AND PROOF THAT THE PAPARAZZI THAT CHASED HER INTO THE TUNNEL WERE THE ONES TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS
OF HER LYING HALF DEAD ON THE BACK SEAT OF THE CAR. >> YOU WRITE, I HADN'T BEEN AWARE BEFORE THIS MOMENT,
LOOKING AT THE PICTURES OF THE CRASH SCENE THAT THE LAST THING MUMMY SAW ON THIS EARTH WAS A FLASHBULB.
>> YEAH. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES? >> THE PICTURES SHOWED THE
REFLECTION OF A GROUP OF PHOTOGRAPHERS TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS THROUGH THE WINDOW AND THE REFLECTION OF THE WINDOW WAS
THEM. >> HE ONLY SAW SOME OF THE CRASH PHOTOS. HIS PRIVATE SECRETARY, AN
ADVISER, DISSUADED HIM FROM LOOKING AT THE REST. >> ALL I SAW WAS THE BACK OF MY MUM'S HEAD SLUMPED ON THE BACK
SEAT. THERE WERE OTHER MORE GRUESOME PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT I WILL BE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO HIM FOR
DENYING ME THE ABILITY TO INFLICT PAIN ON MYSELF BY SEEING THAT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF
THAT STICKS IN YOUR MIND FOREVER. >> HARRY SAYS HE BELIEVED HIS MOTHER MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE
UNTIL HE WAS 23. AND VISITED PARIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. YOU TOLD YOUR DRIVER, I WANT TO
GO TO THE TUNNEL WHERE MY MOM DIED. >> I WANTED TO SEE WHETHER IT WAS POSSIBLE, DRIVING AT THE
SPEED THAT HENRI PAUL WAS DRIVING THAT YOU COULD LOSE CONTROL OF A CAR AND PLOW INTO A PILLAR KILLING ALMOST EVERYBODY
IN THAT CAR. I NEEDED TO TAKE THIS JOURNEY AND I NEED TO RIDE THE SAME ROUTE, THE SAME TUNNEL.
>> THE SAME TUNNEL, THE SAME SPEED. >> ALL OF IT. >> YOUR MOTHER WAS GOING.
>> YES. BECAUSE WILLIAM AND I WERE TOLD THE EVENT WAS LIKE A BICYCLE CHAIN.
IF YOU REMOVE ONE OF THOSE CHAINS, THE END RESULT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. AND THE PAPARAZZI CHASING WAS
PART OF THAT. BUT YET EVERYBODY GOT AWAY WITH IT. >> HARRY WRITES HE AND HIS
BROTHER WEREN'T SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION BY LONDON'S METROPOLITAN POLICE, CONCLUDING DIANA'S DRIVER HENRI
PAUL WAS DRINKING AND THE CRASH WAS A "TRAGIC ACCIDENT." >> WILLIAM AND I CONSIDERED REOPENING THE INQUEST.
THERE WERE SO MANY GAPS AND SO MANY HOLES IN IT, WHICH JUST DIDN'T ADD UP AND DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
>> WOULD YOU STILL LIKE TO DO THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN OPTION NOW, BUT I THINK, WOULD I
LIKE TO DO THAT NOW? THAT'S A HELL OF A QUESTION, ANDERSON. >> DO YOU FEEL YOU HAD THE
ANSWERS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR MOM? >> TRUTH BE KNOWN, NO. I DON'T THINK I DO.
I DON'T THINK MY BROTHER DOES EITHER. I DON'T THINK THE WORLD DOES. DO I NEED ANY MORE THAN I
ALREADY KNOW? NO. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE MUCH.
>> HARRY NOW SAYS IT WASN'T UNTIL HE SERVED IN COMBAT WITH THE BRITISH ARMY IN AFGHANISTAN THAT HE FINALLY FOUND PURPOSE
AND A SENSE OF NORMALCY. >> MY MILITARY CAREER SAVED ME IN MANY REGARDS. >> HOW SO?
>> GOT ME OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT FROM THE UK PRESS. I WAS ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE PURPOSE LARGER THAN MYSELF TO
WEAR THE SAME UNIFORM AS EVERYBODY ELSE, TO FEEL NORMAL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE AND ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGES I EVER HAD. I WAS TRYING TO BECOME AN ATTACHE HELICOPTER PILOT. YOU DON'T GET A PASS FOR BEING A
PRINCE. >> THE APACHE DOESN'T CARE WHO YOU ARE. >> NO.
IT CAN JUST TAKE YOU AWAY. I WAS A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE MILITARY. A YOUNG MAN IN MY 20s, SUFFERING
FROM SHOCK, BUT I WAS NOW IN THE FRONT SEAT OF AN APACHE SHOOTING AT FLYING, MONITORING FOUR RADIOS SIMULTANEOUSLY AND BEING
THERE TO SAVE AND HELP ANYBODY THAT WAS ON THE GROUND WITH A RADIO SCREAMING, WE NEED SUPPORT, WE NEED AIR SUPPORT.
THAT WAS MY CALLING. I FELT HEALING FROM THAT, WEIRDLY. >> AND THAT MULTITASKING, THE
BRAIN WORK OF THAT, THAT FELT GOOD TO YOU? >> IT FELT LIKE I WAS TURNING PAIN INTO A PURPOSE.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE AWARENESS AT THE TIME THAT I WAS LIVING MY LIFE IN ADRENALINE. AND THAT WAS THE CASE FROM AGE
12, FROM THE MOMENT I WAS TOLD MY MOM HAD DIED. >> YOU SAY WAR DIDN'T BEGIN IN AFGHANISTAN, IT BEGAN IN AUGUST
1997. >> THE WAR FOR ME, UNKNOWINGLY, IS WHEN MY MOM DIED. >> WHO WERE YOU FIGHTING?
>> MYSELF. I HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF FRUSTRATION AND BLAME TOWARDS THE BRITISH PRESS FOR THEIR PART
IN IT. >> EVEN AT -- AT 12, AT THAT YOUNG, YOU WERE FEELING THAT TOWARD THE BRITISH PRESS?
>> YEAH, IT WAS OBVIOUS TO US AS KIDS THAT THE BRITISH PRESS IS PART IN OUR MOTHER'S MISERY. I HAD A LOT OF ANGER INSIDE OF
ME THAT LUCKILY I NEVER EXPRESSED TO ANYBODY, BUT I RESORTED TO DRINKING HEAVILY BECAUSE I WANTED TO NUMB THE
FEELING, I WANTED TO DISTRACT MYSELF FROM WHATEVER I WAS THINKING. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESORT TO
DRUGS AS WELL. >> HARRY ADMITS HE SMOKED POT AND USED COCAINE. AND WRITES THAT IN HIS LATE 20s,
HE FELT HOPELESS AND LOST. >> THERE WAS THIS WEIGHT ON MY CHEST I FELT FOR SO MANY YEARS I WAS NEVER ABLE TO CRY.
SO, I WAS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CRY, BUT EVEN SITTING ON MY SOFA, AND GOING OVER MANY MEMORIES AS I COULD
MUSTER UP ABOUT MY MUM, AND SOMETIMES I WATCHED VIDEOS ONLINE. >> OF YOUR MOM?
>> OF MY MUM. >> HOPING TO CRY? >> YES. >> AND YOU COULDN'T?
>> I COULDN'T. >> HE SOUGHT OUT HELP FROM A THERAPIST FOR THE FIRST TIME CERTAIN YEARS AGO AND REVEALED
HE TRIED MORE EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENTS. >> YOU WRITE ABOUT PSYCHEDELICS. MUSHROOMS.
>> I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND PEOPLE TO DO THIS. BUT DOING IT WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE, IF YOU ARE SUFFERING
FROM A HUGE AMOUNT OF LOSS, GRIEF OR TRAUMA, THEN THESE THINGS HAVE A WAY OF WORKING AS A MEDICINE.
>> THEY SHOWED YOU SOMETHING. WHAT DID THEY SHOW YOU? >> FOR ME, THEY CLEARED THE WIND SCREEN, THE WINDSHIELD, THE
MISERY OF LOSS. CLEARED AWAY THIS IDEA THAT I HAD IN MY HEAD THAT MY MOTHER, THAT I NEEDED TO CRY TO PROVE TO
MY MOTHER THAT I MISSED HER. WHEN, IN FACT, WHAT SHE WANTED WAS FOR ME TO BE HAPPY. >> PRINCE HARRY SAYS HE'S FOUND
THAT HAPPINESS WITH HIS WIFE IN CALIFORNIA. BUT AS YOU'LL HEAR IN A MOMENT, HE'S FAR FROM AT PEACE WITH THE
ROYAL FAMILY.
>>> AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN JANUARY, PRINCE HARRY'S MEMOIR "SPARE" IS ANYTHING BUT SPARE IN ITS UNFLATTERING PORTRAYAL OF
THE ROYAL FAMILY, ESPECIALLY HIS STEPMOTHER CAMILLA. SHE MARRIED PRINCE CHARLES IN 2005, BUT THEY WERE ROMANTICALLY
INVOLVED ON AND OFF FOR DECADES. WHEN PRINCESS DIANA REFERRED TO HER AS THE THIRD PERSON IN THEIR MARRIAGE, THE BRITISH TABLOIDS
RAN WITH IT AND PRINCE HARRY HAS NEVER FORGOTTEN. >> SHE WAS THE VILLAIN. SHE WAS THE THIRD PERSON IN
THEIR MARRIAGE. SHE NEEDED TO REHABILITATE HER IMAGE. >> YOU AND YOUR BROTHER BOTH
DIRECTLY ASKED YOUR DAD NOT TO MARRY CAMILLA. >> YES. >> WHY?
>> WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY. WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
AND THAT IF HE WAS NOW WITH HIS PERSON, THAT SURELY THAT'S ENOUGH. WHY GO THAT FAR WHEN YOU DON'T
NECESSARILY NEED TO? WE WANTED HIM TO BE HAPPY. AND WE SAW HOW HAPPY HE WAS WITH HER.
SO AT THE TIME IT WAS, OKAY. >> YOU WROTE SHE STARTED CAMPAIGNING IN THE BRITISH PRESS TO PAVE THE WAY FOR A MARRIAGE
AND YOU WROTE, I EVEN WANTED CAMILLA TO BE HAPPY, MAYBE SHE WOULD BE LESS DANGEROUS IF SHE WAS HAPPY.
HOW WAS SHE DANGEROUS? >> BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR HER TO REHABILITATE HER IMAGE. >> THAT MADE HER DANGEROUS?
>> THAT MADE HER DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIONS SHE WAS FORGING WITHIN THE BRITISH PRESS AND THERE WAS OPEN
WILLINGNESS ON BOTH SIDES TO TRADE INFORMATION AND WITH A FAMILY BUILT ON HIERARCHY AND WITH HER ON THE WAY TO BEING
QUEEN CONSORT, THERE WAS GOING TO BE PEOPLE OR BODIES LEFT IN THE STREET BECAUSE OF THAT. >> HARRY SAYS OVER THE YEARS HE
WAS ONE OF THOSE BODIES. HE ACCUSES CAMILLA AND EVEN HIS FATHER AT TIMES OF USING HIM OR WILLIAM TO GET BETTER TABLOID
COVERAGE FOR THEMSELVES. PRINCE HARRY WRITES CAMILLA, QUOTE, SACRIFICED ME ON HER PERSONAL PR ALTAR.
>> IF YOU ARE LED TO BELIEVE AS A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY THAT BEING ON THE FRONT PAGE, HAVING POSITIVE HEADLINES, POSITIVE
STORIES WRITTEN ABOUT YOU IS GOING TO IMPROVE YOUR REPUTATION OR INCREASE THE CHANCES OF YOU BEING ACCEPTED AS MONARCH BY THE
BRITISH PUBLIC, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. >> IN HIS BOOK, HARRY WRITES WHEN HE INTRODUCED MEGHAN MARKLE
TO HIS FAMILY IN 2016, HIS FATHER INITIALLY TOOK A LIKING TO HER. BUT WILLIAM WAS SKEPTICAL.
DISDAINFULLY REFERRING TO HER AS AN AMERICAN ACTRESS. THOUGH HARRY DOESN'T SPECIFY WHO, HE SAYS OTHER MEMBERS OF
THE ROYAL FAMILY WERE UNEASY AS WELL. >> FROM THE BEGINNING, BEFORE I HAD A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW HER
AND THE UK PRESS JUMPED ON THAT. >> WHAT WAS THAT BASED ON, THAT MISTRUST? >> THE FACT SHE WAS AMERICAN, AN
ACTRESS, DIVORCED, BLACK, BIRACIAL, WITH A BLACK MOTHER, THOSE WERE JUST FOUR OF THE TYPICAL STEREOTYPES THAT HAD
BECOME A FEEDING FRENZY FOR THE BRITISH PRESS. >> ALL THOSE THINGS WITHIN THE FAMILY ALSO WERE SOURCES OF
MISTRUST? >> YES. MY FAMILY READ THE TABLOIDS. IT IS LAID OUT AT BREAKFAST WHEN
EVERYONE COMES TOGETHER. SO, WHETHER YOU WALK AROUND SAYING YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS STILL LEAVING AN IMPRINT IN
YOUR MIND. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT JUDGMENT BASED ON A STEREOTYPE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, IT IS VERY, VERY
HARD TO GET OVER THAT. AND A LARGE PART OF IT FOR THE FAMILY, BUT ALSO THE BRITISH PRESS AND NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE
IS LIKE, HE'S CHANGED, SHE MUST BE A WITCH. HE'S CHANGED. AS OPPOSED TO, YEAH, I DID
CHANGE, I'M REALLY GLAD I CHANGED BECAUSE RATHER THAN GETTING DRUNK, FALLING OUT OF CLUBS, TAKING DRUGS, I HAD NOW
FOUND THE LOVE OF MY LIFE, AND I NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START A FAMILY WITH HER. >> SOON AFTER, THEIR
RELATIONSHIP BECAME PUBLIC, HARRY INSISTED ON PUTTING OUT A STATEMENT CONDEMNING SOME OF THE TABLOID COVERAGE OF MEGHAN AND
WHAT HE CALLED, QUOTE, THE RACIAL UNDERTONES OF COMMENT PIECES. YOU WRITE YOUR DAD AND YOUR
BROTHER WILLIAM WERE FURIOUS WITH YOU FOR DOING THAT. WHY? >> THEY FELT AS THOUGH IT MADE
THEM LOOK BAD. THEY FELT AS THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE OR WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THEIR PARTNERS.
WHAT MEGHAN HAD TO GO THROUGH WAS SIMILAR IN SOME PART TO WHAT KATE AND CAMILLA WENT THROUGH, VERY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES,
BUT THEN YOU ADD IN THE RACE ELEMENT, WHICH WAS WHAT THE PRESS -- BRITISH PRESS JUMPED ON STRAIGHTAWAY, I WENT INTO THIS
INCREDIBLY NAIVE. I HAD NO IDEA THE BRITISH PRESS WAS SO BIGOTED. HELL, I WAS BIGOTED BEFORE
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEGHAN. >> YOU THINK YOU WERE BIGOTED BEFORE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEGHAN?
>> I DON'T KNOW. PUT IT THIS WAY -- I DIDN'T SEE WHAT I NOW SEE. >> THEY WERE MARRIED IN MAY 2018
IN A CEREMONY THAT SEEMED TO PROMISE A MORE MODERN AND INCLUSIVE ROYAL FAMILY AND GIVEN THE TITLES DUKE AND DUCHESS OF
SUSSEX. BEHIND THE SCENES, ACCORDING TO HARRY, WILLIAM'S MISTRUST OF MEGHAN ONLY WORSENED.
DID YOU EVER TRY TO MEET WITH WILLIAM AND KATE TO TRY TO DIFFUSE THE TENSION? >> YES.
>> HOW DID THAT MEETING GO? >> NOT PARTICULARLY WELL. >> IN EARLY 2019, HARRY WRITES THE RANCOR BETWEEN WILLIAM AND
HIM EXPLODED AT HARRY'S COTTAGE ON THE GROUNDS OF KENSINGTON PALACE. YOUR ARGUMENTS WITH YOUR BROTHER
BECAME PHYSICAL. >> IT WAS A BUILDUP OF FRUSTRATION, I THINK, ON HIS PART.
IT WAS A TIME WHERE HE WAS BEING TOLD CERTAIN THINGS BY PEOPLE WITHIN HIS OFFICE. AND THE SAME TIME HE WAS
CONSUMING A LOT OF THE TABLOID PRESS, A LOT OF THE STORIES, AND HE HAD A FEW ISSUES WHICH WERE BASED NOT ON REALITY.
AND I WAS DEFENDING MY WIFE AND HE WAS COMING FOR MY WIFE, SHE WASN'T THERE AT THE TIME, BUT THROUGH THE THINGS HE WAS
SAYING, I WAS DEFENDING MYSELF AND WE MOVED FROM ONE ROOM INTO THE KITCHEN AND HIS FRUSTRATIONS WERE GROWING AND GROWING AND
GROWING. HE WAS SHOUTING AT ME. I WAS SHOUTING BACK AT HIM. IT WASN'T NICE.
IT WASN'T PLEASANT AT ALL. AND HE SNAPPED. AND HE PUSHED ME TO THE FLOOR. >> HE KNOCKED YOU OVER.
>> HE KNOCKED ME OVER. I LANDED ON THE -- >> YOU CUT YOUR BACK. >> I CUT MY BACK.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT AT THE TIME. BUT HE APOLOGIZED AFTERWARDS. IT WAS A PRETTY NASTY EXPERIENCE, BUT --
>> HE ASKED YOU NOT TO TELL ANYBODY. NOT TO TELL MEGHAN. >> YEAH, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE
DONE. I DIDN'T. UNTIL SHE SAW ON MY BACK, WHAT'S THAT?
I WAS, LIKE, WHAT? I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I LOOKED IN THE MIRROR.
I WAS, LIKE, [ BLEEP ] BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN IT. >> MEGHAN HAS SAID CONSTANT CRITICISM AND PRESSURE LED HER
IN THE WINTER OF 2019 TO CONTEMPLATE SUICIDE. >> THE THING THAT TERRIFIED ME THE MOST IS HISTORY REPEATING
ITSELF. >> YOU REALLY FEARED THAT YOUR WIFE, MEGHAN -- >> I FEARED A LOT THE END
RESULT, THE FACT THAT I LOST MY MUM WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD COULD EASILY HAPPEN AGAIN TO MY WIFE.
>> IN JANUARY 2020, PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN ANNOUNCED THEY INTENDED TO, IN THEIR WORDS, STEP BACK AS SENIOR MEMBERS OF
THE ROYAL FAMILY. THEY MOVED TO CALIFORNIA THREE MONTHS LATER. THEN THERE WAS THE HEADLINE
GRABBING INTERVIEW WITH OPRAH WINFREY AND A DEAL WITH NETFLIX WORTH A REPORTED $100 MILLION. CRITICS SAY THE DUKE AND DUCHESS
ARE CASHING IN ON THEIR ROYAL TITLES WHILE THEY STILL CAN. WHY NOT RENOUNCE YOUR TITLES AS DUKE AND DUCHESS?
>> AND WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD THAT MAKE? >> ONE OF THE CRITICISMS THAT YOU RECEIVED IS THAT, OKAY,
FINE, YOU WANT TO MOVE TO CALIFORNIA, YOU WANT TO STEP BACK FROM THE INSTITUTIONAL ROLE, WHY BE SO PUBLIC, WHY
REVEAL CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH YOUR FATHER OR WITH YOUR BROTHER? YOU SAY YOU TRIED TO DO THIS
PRIVATELY. >> AND EVERY SINGLE TIME I TRIED TO DO IT PRIVATELY, THERE WOULD BE BRIEFINGS AND LEAKINGS AND
PLANTINGS OF STORIES AGAINST ME AND MY WIFE. THE MOTTO IS NEVER COMPLAIN, NEVER EXPLAIN, IT IS A MOTTO, IT
DOESN'T REALLY -- >> THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLAINING AND A LOT OF EXPLAINING IN PRIVATE, BEING DONE THROUGH
LEAKS? >> THROUGH LEAKS. >> PRINCE HARRY CONTINUES TO CLAIM HE WOULD NEVER LEAK
AGAINST HIS FAMILY. >> SO, NOW TRYING TO SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT PERHAPS THEY UNDERSTAND I WILL SIT HERE AND
SPEAK TRUTH TO YOU WITH THE WORDS THAT COME OUT OF MY MOUTH RATHER THAN USING SOMEONE ELSE, AN UNNAMED SOURCE, TO FEED IN
LIES OR A NARRATIVE TO A TABLOID MEDIA THAT LITERALLY RADICALIZES ITS READERS TO THEN POTENTIALLY CAUSE HARM TO MY FAMILY.
MY WIFE, MY KIDS. >> IN DECEMBER, THE BRITISH TABLOID "THE SUN" PUBLISHED A VICIOUS COLUMN ABOUT MEGHAN
WRITTEN BY A TV HOST. >> HE SAID I HATE HER. AT NIGHT I'M UNABLE TO SLEEP BECAUSE I LIE THERE GRINDING MY
TEETH AND DREAMING OF THE DAY SHE'S MADE TO WALK NAKED THROUGH THE STREETS IN EVERY TOWN OF BRITAIN WHILE THE CROWDS CHANT
SHAME AND THROW EXCREMENT AT HER. DID THAT SURPRISE YOU? >> DID IT SURPRISE ME?
NO. IS IT SHOCKING? YES. I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR PROVING
OUR POINT. >> HAD THERE BEEN ANY RESPONSE FROM THE PALACE? >> NO.
THERE COMES A POINT WHEN SILENCE IS BETRAYAL. >> HARRY HAS BEEN BACK IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.
IN LONDON LAST SEPTEMBER FOR A CHARITY EVENT WHEN THE PALACE ANNOUNCED HIS GRANDMOTHER, THE QUEEN, WAS UNDER MEDICAL
SUPERVISION. >> I ASKED MY BROERT, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS, HOW ARE YOU AND KATE GETTING THERE?
THEN A COUPLE OF HOURS LATER, ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVED WITHIN THE AREA ARE JUMPING ON A PLANE TOGETHER, A
PLANE WITH 12, 14, MAYBE 16 SEATS. >> YOU WERE NOT INVITED? >> I WAS NOT INVITED.
>> BY THE TIME HARRY GOT TO BALMORAL ON HIS OWN, THE QUEEN WAS DEAD. >> I WALKED INTO THE HALL AND MY
AUNT WAS THERE TO GREET ME. AND SHE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO SEE HER? I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR FIVE
SECONDS, THINKING IS THIS A GOOD IDEA, I WAS, LIKE, YOU CAN DO THIS, YOU NEED TO SAY GOOD-BYE. I WENT UPSTAIRS.
TOOK MY JACKET OFF, AND WALKED IN AND JUST SPENT SOME TIME WITH HER, ALONE. >> WHERE WAS SHE?
>> SHE WAS IN HER BEDROOM. I WAS REALLY HAPPY FOR HER. SHE FINISHED LIFE. SHE COMPLETED LIFE.
HER HUSBAND WAS WAITING FOR HER. AND THE TWO OF THEM ARE BURIED TOGETHER. >> AS THEY HAD 25 YEARS EARLIER,
HARRY AND WILLIAM FOUND THEMSELVES WALKING TOGETHER BUT APART THIS TIME BEHIND THEIR GRANDMOTHER'S CASKET.
DO YOU SPEAK TO WILLIAM NOW? DO YOU TEXT? >> CURRENTLY NO. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO -- I LOOK
FORWARD TO US BEING ABLE TO FIND PEACE. >> HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE YOU SPOKE?
>> A WHILE. >> DO YOU SPEAK TO YOUR DAD? >> WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN FOR QUITE A WHILE.
NO. NOT RECENTLY. >> CAN YOU SEE A DAY WHEN YOU WOULD RETURN AS A FULL TIME
MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY? >> NO. I CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. >> IN THE BOOK YOU CALLED THIS A
FULL SCALE RUPTURE. CAN IT BE HEALED? >> YES. THE BALL IS VERY MUCH IN THEIR
COURT. BUT MEGHAN AND I HAVE CONTINUED TO SAY WE WILL OPENLY APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DID WRONG,
BUT EVERY TIME WE ASK THAT QUESTION, NO ONE IS TELLING US THE SPECIFICS OR ANYTHING. THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONSTRUCTIVE
CONVERSATION, ONE THAT CAN HAPPEN IN PRIVATE, THAT DOESN'T GET LEAKED. >> I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD
SAY, HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU, HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REVEAL IN WHATEVER CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE IN AN INTERVIEW
SOMEWHERE? >> THIS ALL STARTED WITH THEM BRIEFING DAILY AGAINST MY WIFE WITH LIES TO THE POINT OF WHERE
MY WIFE AND I HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM OUR -- FROM MY COUNTRY. >> IT IS HARD FOR ANYBODY TO IMAGINE A FAMILY DYNAMIC THAT IS
SO "GAME OF THRONES" WITHOUT DRAGONS. >> I DON'T WATCH "GAME OF THRONES" BUT THERE IS DRAGONS.
AND THAT'S THE THIRD PARTY, WHICH IS THE BRITISH PRESS. WITHOUT THE BRITISH PRESS AS PART OF THIS, WE WOULD PROBABLY
STILL BE A FAIRLY DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY. LIKE A LOT ARE. BUT AT THE HEART OF IT, THERE IS
A FAMILY, WITHOUT QUESTION. AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT FAMILY ELEMENT BACK. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY BROTHER, A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER AND OTHER MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY. >> YOU WANT THAT?
>> THAT'S ALL I'VE EVER ASKED FOR. >> WE REACHED OUT TO BUCKINGHAM PALACE FOR COMMENT BACK IN
JANUARY. THE PALACE HAS STILL NOT MADE ANY OFFICIAL COMMENT ABOUT PRINCE HARRY'S BOOK.
>>> PRINCE HARRY ON HOW BEING A FATHER HELPS HIM UNDERSTAND HIS OWN MOTHER. >> I'M STARTING TO COMPREHEND
THE POSITION THAT SHE WAS IN. >> 60MINUTESOVERTIME.COM >>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. STICK AROUND, A SPECIAL EDITION
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