1 00:00:11,344 --> 00:00:16,349 >>> ELIZABETH, SORRY, NEED MY PASSPORT NUMBER BECAUSE THE UKRAINE TRIP IS ON. CAN YOU READ THAT OUT TO ME? 2 00:00:16,416 --> 00:00:27,160 >> THAT'S MY VOICE, BUT THAT'S NOT ME. IT'S THE DIGITAL RESULT OF A CLEVER HACK ER AND A CHEAP 3 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:31,131 VOICE-ALTERS APP. DID YOU THINK IT WAS ME? >> YES. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE SCAMS 4 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:35,735 COSTING AMERICAN CITIZENS $10 BILLION A YEAR. AND AS YOU HEAR, PEOPLE OVER 60 ARE THE MAIN TARGET. 5 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:40,607 >> IT'S LIKE A DEATH IN THE FAMILY ALMOST. >> WELL, SHE WORKED SO HARD, YOU KNOW. 6 00:00:40,673 --> 00:00:50,917 >> FOR MY MONEY, I SURE HAVE. >>> JUST OVER FOUR YEARS AGO, THE CATHEDRAL OF NOTRE DAME IN PARIS CAUGHT FIRE, AND THE WORLD 7 00:00:50,984 --> 00:01:01,928 WATCHED IN HORROR. THIS SPRING, "60 MINUTES" WAS GIVEN RARE ACCESS TO THE PAINSTAKING RESTORATION OF NOTRE 8 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:13,039 DAME, AS WORKERS AND ARTISANS REVIVE EVERY PART OF THIS MEDIEVAL MASTERPIECE. >>> WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE IN THE 9 00:01:13,106 --> 00:01:19,612 WATER WITH THEM? >> MAGICAL. >> TONIGHT, "60 MINUTES" IS EYE TO EYE WITH THE WHALE OF MOBY 10 00:01:19,679 --> 00:01:26,319 DICK LEGEND, BUT MELVILLE'S NOVEL WAS FICTION. SPERM WHALES ARE ESPECIALLY MATERNAL. 11 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:31,891 GENERATIONS LIVE TOGETHER WHILE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CALVES, AND THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST BRAIN IN THE ANIMAL KINGDOM. 12 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:42,969 AND THEY SLEEP LIKE THIS. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITTER THE. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 13 00:01:43,036 --> 00:01:48,241 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60 14 00:01:48,308 --> 00:02:04,557 MINUTES." >>> MORE AMERICANS THAN EVER RELY ON ALARM SYSTEMS, GATES, OR DOORBELL CAMERAS TO HELP PROTECT 15 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:10,230 THEIR FAMILIES. BUT STATISTICALLY YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE THE VICTIM OF THEFT ONLINE THAN A PHYSICAL BREAK-IN 16 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:18,304 AT HOME. A NEW REPORT FROM THE FBI REVEALS THAT AMERICANS LOST MORE THAN $10 BILLION LAST YEAR TO 17 00:02:18,371 --> 00:02:27,614 ONLINE SCAMS AND DIGITAL FRAUD. AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN MAY, PEOPLE IN THEIR 30s, WHO ARE MOST CONNECTED ONLINE, FILED THE 18 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,685 MOST COMPLAINTS. BUT WE WERE SURPRISED TO LEARN THE GROUP THAT LOSES THE MOST MONEY TO SCAMMERS IS SENIORS. 19 00:02:32,752 --> 00:02:38,124 TONIGHT, WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW CYBER CON ARTISTS ARE USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, WIDELY AVAILABLE APPS AND SOCIAL 20 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:47,166 ENGINEERING TO TARGET OUR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS. >> IT'S LIKE A DEATH IN THE FAMILY ALMOST. 21 00:02:47,233 --> 00:02:51,771 >> WELL, SHE'S WORKED SO HARD, YOU KNOW? >> FOR MY MONEY, I SURE HAVE. >> SUSAN MONAHAN AND HER 22 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:56,776 DAUGHTER TAMARA ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE 81-YEAR-OLD WAS CONNED OUT OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT 23 00:02:56,843 --> 00:03:06,719 CALLS A GRANDPARENT SCAM. >> TELL ME ABOUT THE CALL YOU THAT GOT. >> THERE WAS A YOUNG ADULT ON 24 00:03:06,786 --> 00:03:17,564 THE LINE SAYING, "GRANDMA, I NEED YOUR HELP." IN A FRANTIC VOICE, SCARED, SAYING "I WAS DRIVING AND 25 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:21,801 SUDDENLY THERE WAS A WOMAN STOPPED IN FRONT OF ME. SHE'S PREGNANT AND I HIT HER, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ME TO 26 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:27,373 JAIL." AND, GRANDMA, PLEASE DON'T CALL MY MOM AND DAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO KNOW. 27 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,244 AND I SAID, BRANDON, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU. HE SAID OH, I HAVE A COLD, GRANDMA. 28 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:37,550 >> YOU THINK IT'S YOUR GRANDSON? >> I DO. AND HE SAID GRANDMA, A FRIEND OF MINE HAS AN ATTORNEY, THAT WE 29 00:03:37,617 --> 00:03:43,356 CAN USE AND THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT ME GOING TO JAIL. AND I SAID, YES, OF COURSE. 30 00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:50,229 >> MONAHAN SAID THE SCAMMER PRETENDING TO BE A HELPFUL ATTORNEY GOT ON THE LINE. IT WAS JUNE OF 2020 DURING THE 31 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:59,105 PANDEMIC AND HE PROMISED TO KEEP HER GRANDSON OUT OF JAIL. IF SHE COULD GET $9,000 FOR BAIL TO HIM QUICKLY. 32 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:04,010 >> WHAT OTHER INSTRUCTIONS WERE YOU GIVEN? >> I NEEDED TO MAKE AN ENVELOPE THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO THIS 33 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:12,986 CERTAIN JUDGE, THAT HE WAS GOING TO COORDINATE THIS THROUGH AND WRITE ON THERE AND THEY GAVE ME THE NAME, THE ADDRESS, AND 34 00:04:13,052 --> 00:04:16,456 EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THIS ENVELOPE. >> DID IT SOUND PRETTY LEGITIMATE? 35 00:04:16,522 --> 00:04:22,996 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. HE HAS THE LEGALESE. >> MONAHAN IS A TAX PREPARER, WITH AN MBA. 36 00:04:23,062 --> 00:04:28,267 THE SCAMMER KEPT HER ON THE PHONE AS SHE RUSHED TO THE BANK. >> WHAT DID HE SAY? >> HE SAID WHEN YOU GO THERE, 37 00:04:28,334 --> 00:04:33,206 MAKE SURE YOU TELL THEM THAT IT'S FOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT QUESTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WITHDRAWING 38 00:04:33,272 --> 00:04:44,083 $9,000. >> MINUTES AFTER MONAHAN GOT HOME WITH THE CASH, A COURIER SHOWED UP TO TAKE IT. 39 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:47,787 THIS IS VIDEO FROM THE DOORBELL CAMERA. YOU CAN HEAR MONAHAN ON THE PHONE WITH THE SCAMMER AS SHE 40 00:04:47,854 --> 00:04:54,093 HANDS OFF THE MONEY. >> HE SAID TO MOVE YOUR BUTT BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A DEADLINE. >> OKAY. 41 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,930 HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> SHE SAYS AS SOON AS THE COURIER LEFT AND THE ADRENALINE LEFT HER BODY, SHE WAS FILLED 42 00:04:57,997 --> 00:05:05,238 WITH A SICK FEELING SHE'D BEEN SCAMMED. >> IT'S JUST DEVASTATING. >> WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOUR MOM? 43 00:05:05,304 --> 00:05:12,045 BEYOND THE MONEY, BEYOND TAKING $9,000 FROM HER? >> WELL, IT'S YOUR LIVELIHOOD. I'M SORRY, IT JUST GETS YOU, 44 00:05:12,111 --> 00:05:19,452 LIKE, IN YOUR GUT. >> THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION REPORTS SCAMS LIKE THESE SKYROCKETED 70% DURING THE 45 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:25,391 PANDEMIC WHEN SENIORS HOME ALONE WENT ONLINE TO SHOP OR KEEP IN TOUCH WITH FAMILY. >> HOW MUCH MONEY WERE YOU 46 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:34,734 SCAMMED OUT OF? >> $11,300. >> $14,000. >> $7,600. 47 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:44,544 >> JUDY ATTIG AND HER HUSBAND RON, A RETIRED IRONWORKER WERE VICTIMS OF THE SAME GRANDPARENT SCAM AS SUSAN MONAHAN. 48 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:50,316 THAT'S THE VIEW FROM THEIR DOORBELL CAMERA, AS THE SAME COURIER TOOK OFF WITH $7,600 OF THEIR SAVINGS. 49 00:05:50,383 --> 00:05:54,287 >> $7,600 HITS HARD. >> OH, YEAH. >> WELL, THAT WAS FOR -- IF WE WANTED TO GO ON A TRIP OR 50 00:05:54,353 --> 00:06:01,427 SOMETHING. IT WAS TERRIBLE. I WAS A MESS. >> STEVE SAVAGE, A RETIRED 51 00:06:01,494 --> 00:06:07,233 SCIENTIST, WAS SCAMMED WHEN HE OPENED A FAKE EMAIL FROM THE GEEK SQUAD. >> THE EMAIL SAYS THAT YOUR BANK 52 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:16,209 ACCOUNT IS BEING CHARGED $399 FOR ANOTHER YEAR. AND I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING ANYWHERE 53 00:06:16,275 --> 00:06:24,650 CLOSE TO THAT. >> THE CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER WENT TO A SCAMMER POSING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY. 54 00:06:24,717 --> 00:06:32,525 SAVAGE WAS DUPED OUT OF $14,000. >> ESTER MAESTRE WAS SCAMMED TOO. THE RETIRED NURSE SAYS AN ALARM 55 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:39,398 SOUNDED ON HER iPAD WITH A MESSAGE TO CALL TECH SUPPORT. SHE DID. HE SAID THAT LAST NIGHT BETWEEN 56 00:06:39,465 --> 00:06:44,137 4:00 AND 9:00 P.M., YOUR BANK ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED. >> AND YOUR HEART PROBABLY STOPPED. 57 00:06:44,203 --> 00:06:51,544 >> OH, YOU KNOW, I FELT SO NERVOUS. BUT HE SAID, I AM GOING TO TRANSFER YOU TO ANOTHER GUY 58 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:58,885 WHO'S A SECURITY AT CHASE BANK. >> THAT FAKE BANK EMPLOYEE TOLD HER HACKERS MIGHT ABLE TO ACCESS HER BANK ACCOUNT AND INSTRUCTED 59 00:06:58,951 --> 00:07:08,995 HER TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW MONEY AND DEPOSIT IT INTO A NEW ACCOUNT FOR SAFEKEEPING. MAESTRE DID AND LOST $11,000. 60 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:13,232 >> AND HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO RECOVER ANY OF YOUR MONEY? >> NOTHING. >> NOTHING. 61 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:19,205 >> I'M THE ONE THAT PULLED THE MONEY OUT OF THE BANK SO I WON'T BE REIMBURSED. >> IF YOUR HOUSE GETS BROKEN 62 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:25,878 INTO, YOU CALL THE POLICE. IF THIS HAPPENS -- >> THERE'S NO ONE TO CALL. >> SCOTT PIRRELLO IS A DEPUTY 63 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:33,252 DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO RUNS SAN DIEGO'S ELDER JUSTICE TASK FORCE AND CONNECTED US TO THE VICTIMS YOU JUST HEARD FROM. 64 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:40,660 HE SAYS STUDIES SHOW ONLY 1 IN EVERY 20 SENIORS WHO HAVE BEEN SCAMMED REPORT IT. OFTEN, THEY'RE EMBARRASSED. 65 00:07:40,726 --> 00:07:45,464 >> MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THIS THINK, WELL, THESE PEOPLE MUST HAVE DEMENTIA OR ALZHEIMER'S. 66 00:07:45,531 --> 00:07:49,769 IT'S NOT THE CASE. OUR VICTIMS ARE AS SHARP AS A TACK. WE HAD A WOMAN, 66 YEARS OLD, 67 00:07:49,836 --> 00:07:55,541 SHE CAME HOME. SHE GOT A MESSAGE ON HER COMPUTER FROM MICROSOFT AND THE MESSAGE SAID THAT SHE HAD A 68 00:07:55,608 --> 00:08:06,519 VIRUS ON HER COMPUTER. AND THEN THAT VIRUS HAD SOMEHOW INFECTED HER FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS. WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS THIS 69 00:08:06,586 --> 00:08:14,961 VICTIM HAD LOST $800,000. >> OH, MY GOSH. >> THE SCARIEST PART OF THESE SCAMS IS THAT THESE VICTIMS HAVE 70 00:08:15,027 --> 00:08:22,335 NO RECOURSE. THEY'RE LEFT BEWILDERED. >> WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS? >> THE SENIORS THAT HAVE THE 71 00:08:22,401 --> 00:08:28,140 COURAGE TO REPORT THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED ARE BEING TOLD THAT I'M SORRY THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO. 72 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:37,083 AND THAT IS THE REALITY. THAT A LOCAL POLICE DETECTIVE IN KANSAS CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE REACH TO GO INVESTIGATE A CASE 73 00:08:37,149 --> 00:08:42,889 THAT'S BEING OPERATED FROM THE CARIBBEAN OR FROM NIGERIA OR GHANA. >> INVESTIGATORS ALSO HAVE 74 00:08:42,955 --> 00:08:50,263 TRACED SCAMMED TO EUROPE, SOUTHEAST ASIA AND CANADA. >> TO COMBAT THEM, SAN DIEGO'S ELDER JUSTICE TASK FORCE HAS 75 00:08:50,329 --> 00:08:57,103 TAKEN A NEW APPROACH. INVESTIGATORS COLLECT EVERY LOCAL FRAUD CASE, THEN COLLABORATE WITH FEDERAL 76 00:08:57,169 --> 00:09:06,145 AUTHORITIES TO CONNECT THEM. >> IF WE HAVE A VICTIM THAT LOST $12,000 HERE IN SAN DIEGO, THERE IS WITHOUT QUESTION, DOZENS OF 77 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:11,450 OTHER VICTIMS TO THE SAME SCAM AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOSSES. AND THEN ONCE WE IDENTIFY THAT 78 00:09:11,517 --> 00:09:18,491 THE SCAM IS PART OF SOMETHING MUCH LARGER, THEN WE CAN DELIVER THAT TO OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS WITH THE REACH TO GO AROUND THE 79 00:09:18,557 --> 00:09:27,667 COUNTRY. BECAUSE THESE ARE NETWORKS. THESE ARE TRANSNATIONAL, ORGANIZED CRIMINAL NETWORKS. 80 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:34,907 >> IN 2021, PIRRELLO HELPED THE CRIMINALS WHO STOLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM ELDERLY VICTIMS. >> REMEMBER, THOSE DOORBELL 81 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:41,747 VIDEOS FROM THE GRANDPARENTS SCAM? THE COURIER, A 22-YEAR-OLD CALIFORNIAN WAS THE STARTING 82 00:09:41,814 --> 00:09:50,222 POINT FOR THE FBI'S CASE. SHE'S SERVING TIME FOR HER ROLE, BUT THE FBI SAYS THE SCAM'S RING LEADERS, TWO BAHAMIAN NATIONALS, 83 00:09:50,289 --> 00:09:56,529 BASED IN FLORIDA, FLED THE COUNTRY BEFORE THEY COULD BE ARRESTED. >> IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW A 84 00:09:56,595 --> 00:10:01,801 CRIMINAL THINKS, THEN YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN PROTECT YOURSELF ONLINE. >> RACHEL TOBAC IS WHAT'S CALLED 85 00:10:01,867 --> 00:10:11,544 AN ETHICAL HACKER. SHE STUDIES HOW THESE CRIMINALS OPERATE. >> SO ETHICAL HACKERS, WE STEP 86 00:10:11,610 --> 00:10:15,214 IN AND SHOW YOU HOW IT WORKS. >> TOBAC IS THE CEO OF SOCIAL PROOF SECURITY, A DATA PROTECTION FIRM THAT ADVISES 87 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:21,020 FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, THE MILITARY AND PRIVATE CITIZENS ON THEIR VULNERABILITIES. WE HIRED HER TO SHOW US HOW EASY 88 00:10:21,087 --> 00:10:27,893 IT IS TO USE INFORMATION FOUND ONLINE TO SCAM SOMEONE. WE ASKED HER TO TARGET OUR UNSUSPECTING COLLEAGUE 89 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:37,603 ELIZABETH. TOBAC FOUND ELIZABETH'S CELL PHONE NUMBER ON A BUSINESS NETWORKING WEBSITE. 90 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:41,974 AS WE SET UP FOR AN INTERVIEW, TOBAC CALLED ELIZABETH BUT USED AN AI-POWERED APP TO MIMIC MY VOICE AND ASK FOR MY PASSPORT 91 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:51,283 NUMBER. >> YES, YES, I DO HAVE IT, OKAY, READY? >> TOBAC PLAYS THE AI-GENERATED 92 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:56,555 VOICE RECORDING FOR US, TO REVEAL THE SCAM. >> ELIZABETH, SORRY, I NEED MY PASSPORT NUMBER BECAUSE THE 93 00:10:56,622 --> 00:11:05,564 UKRAINE TRIP IS ON. CAN YOU READ THAT OUT TO ME? >> DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? >> YES, I GAVE HER -- 94 00:11:05,631 --> 00:11:10,836 >> WOW. >> I HAVE -- >> I WAS DUPED. >> WHAT DID IT SAY ON THE PHONE? 95 00:11:10,903 --> 00:11:16,108 >> SHARYN. >> HOW DID YOU DO THAT? >> SO I USED SOMETHING CALLED A SPOOFING TOOL TO ACTUALLY BE 96 00:11:16,175 --> 00:11:20,846 ABLE TO CALL YOU AS SHARYN. >> OH, SO I WAS HACKED AND I FAILED THE HACKING -- >> NO. 97 00:11:20,913 --> 00:11:25,618 >> BUT EVERYBODY WOULD GET TRICKED WITH THAT, EVERYBODY WOULD. IT SAYS SHARYN. 98 00:11:25,684 --> 00:11:28,754 WHY WOULD I NOT ANSWER THIS CALL? WHY WOULD I NOT GIVE THAT INFORMATION? 99 00:11:28,821 --> 00:11:35,194 >> TOBAC SHOWED US HOW SHE TOOK CLIPS OF ME FROM TELEVISION AND PUT IT INTO AN APP. THAT CLONED MY VOICE. 100 00:11:35,261 --> 00:11:40,366 IT TOOK ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. >> I AM A PUBLIC PERSON. MY VOICE IS OUT THERE. COULD A PERSON WHO'S NOT A 101 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:46,138 PUBLIC PERSON LIKE ME BE SPOOFED AS EASILY? >> ANYBODY CAN BE SPOOFED. AND OFTENTIMES ATTACKERS WILL GO 102 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:50,376 AFTER PEOPLE. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. BUT THEY KNOW THIS PERSON HAS A 103 00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:56,682 RELATIONSHIP TO THE OTHER PERSON. THEY CAN IMPERSONATE THAT PERSON ENOUGH JUST BY CHANGING THE 104 00:11:56,749 --> 00:12:00,786 PITCH AND THE MODULATION OF THEIR VOICE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S MY NEPHEW AND I NEED TO REALLY WIRE THAT 105 00:12:00,853 --> 00:12:08,894 MONEY. >> TOBAC SAYS HACKERS NO LONGER NEED TO INFILTRATE COMPUTERS THROUGH A BACK DOOR. 106 00:12:08,961 --> 00:12:17,870 SHE SAID 95% OF THE HACKS TODAY HAPPEN AFTER A USER CLICKS ON A TEXT, A LINK. OR GIVES PERSONAL INFORMATION 107 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:22,741 OVER THE PHONE. >> YOU WERE ABLE TO HACK MY COLLEAGUE ELIZABETH WHO IS A TECH-SAVVY MILLENNIAL. 108 00:12:22,808 --> 00:12:28,514 WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? >> ANYBODY CAN BE HACKED. ANYBODY CAN FALL FOR WHAT ELIZABETH FELL FOR. 109 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:34,854 IN FACT, WHEN I DO THAT TYPE OF ATTACK, EVERY SINGLE TIME THE PERSON FALLS FOR IT. >> SHE SAID HACKERS ARMED WITH 110 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:42,862 BASIC INFORMATION LIKE A RELATIVE'S NAME FOUND ONLINE OR AN APP THAT CAN MIMIC A VOICE OR CHANGE THE CALL I.D. CAN CREATE 111 00:12:42,928 --> 00:12:50,169 A CONVINCING STORY. >> IF YOU WERE TO RECEIVE A PHONE CALL, A TEXT MESSAGE, AN EMAIL, AND IT'S ASKING FOR 112 00:12:50,236 --> 00:12:58,344 SOMETHING SENSITIVE, URGENT, AND WITH FEAR, THAT'S WHEN THE ALARM BELLS HAVE TO GO OFF IN YOUR HEAD. 113 00:12:58,410 --> 00:13:01,447 THEY WANT ME TO GIVE SOMETHING TO THEM. I'M GOING TO TAKE A BEAT AND I'M GOING TO CHECK THAT PERSON AND 114 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:08,287 THEY WHO THEY ARE. I CALL IT BEING POLITELY PARANOID. >> POLITELY PARANOID. 115 00:13:08,354 --> 00:13:11,790 >> BE POLITELY PARANOID. >> TOBAC HAS WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT FOR AURA, A BOSTON-BASED TECHNOLOGY COMPANY 116 00:13:11,857 --> 00:13:21,133 THAT CREATED SOFTWARE TO PROTECT THE IDENTITY, PASSPORTS OF PASSWORDS AND FINANCES AND PERSONAL DATA FOR ENTIRE 117 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:28,073 FAMILIES IN ONE APP. >> HERE YOU CAN SEE A FULL FOOTPRINT OF EVEYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE THE FAMILY. 118 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:33,379 >> HARI RAVICHANDRAN IS THE CEO OF AURA. HE SAYS THEIR SOFTWARE CAN REROUTE SCAM CALLS AWAY FROM 119 00:13:33,445 --> 00:13:39,451 GRANDPARENTS. >> IF THE PARENT IS GETTING A CALL AND WE'RE IDENTIFYING USING AI THAT THE CALL IS A POTENTIAL 120 00:13:39,518 --> 00:13:47,693 SCAM CALL, THEN WE CAN ROUTE THAT CALL TO ME. >> DOES THIS STOP THE CALL FROM GETTING IN? 121 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:54,400 >> IT DOES. >> IT JUST BLOCKS THE CALL? >> WHEN THE CALL COMES IN IT AS A RECORDING THAT SAYS LET ME 122 00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:59,471 KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHAT'S YOUR INTENT? IF IT'S A KNOWN PERSON ALREADY IN YOUR CONTACTS, IT WILL GO 123 00:13:59,538 --> 00:14:05,678 RIGHT THROUGH. >> Reporter: RAVICHANDRAN SAYS AI IS ALSO USED TO MONITOR FINANCES AND ALERT USERS OF 124 00:14:05,744 --> 00:14:09,415 PROBLEMS FROM REALTIME. >> IF I SEE A CHARGE FOR MY MOM FOR $10 AT STARBUCKS THAT FEELS OKAY. 125 00:14:09,481 --> 00:14:15,221 BUT IF THERE'S A $500 FROM STARBUCKS, SOMETHING IS OFF KILTER. SO WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT WITH AI 126 00:14:15,287 --> 00:14:23,929 CONTEXTUALLY WHAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT IF SOMETHING'S OFF PATTERN, YOU CAN LOOK AT AND THAT AND SAY OKAY, SOMETHING IS OFF, I NEED 127 00:14:23,996 --> 00:14:26,799 TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. >> SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY SCOTT PERILLO SAYS MORE HELP IS NEEDED FROM LAW 128 00:14:26,865 --> 00:14:32,571 ENFORCEMENT AND THE BANKING AND RETAIL INDUSTRIES TO PROTECT SENIORS. THE FBI REPORTS OVER THE PAST 129 00:14:32,638 --> 00:14:43,482 TWO YEARS THE LOSSES FROM DIGITAL THEFT HAVE DOUBLED. >> THE TRENDS AND THE DATA ARE HORRIFYING. 130 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:46,218 WE HAVE THE SENIOR POPULATION IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE THIS DYNAMIC OF 131 00:14:46,285 --> 00:14:52,992 UNDERREPORTING AND THEN WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY COMING. PEOPLE ARE CONVINCED THAT AI IS PLAYING A PART IN MAYBE 132 00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:59,832 PRETENDING ITS THE GRANDCHILD'S VOICE. WE'RE ALL JUST NEXT ON THE CONVEYER BELT AND WE ALL NEED TO 133 00:14:59,898 --> 00:15:13,846 DO A BETTER JOB. >>> HEAR WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO BE TARGETED BY A GRANDPARENT SCAM. 134 00:15:13,912 --> 00:15:31,930 >> HAVE TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE >>> WHEN THE CATHEDRAL OF NOTRE DAME IN PARIS CAUGHT FIRE IN APRIL 2019, IT WAS WOUND OF 135 00:15:31,997 --> 00:15:38,170 THOSE MOMENT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD EXPERIENCED TOGETHER, STARING IN HORROR AT LIVE VIDEO ON THEIR SMARTPHONES AND 136 00:15:38,237 --> 00:15:45,377 TELEVISIONS. FOR THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE, IT WAS ESPECIALLY TRAUMATIC BECAUSE NOTRE DAME HAS BEEN A POWERFUL 137 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:51,750 SYMBOL SINCE MEDIEVAL TIMES. FRENCH PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON IMMEDIATELY PLEDGED THAT NOTRE DAME WOULD BE REOPENED BY THE 138 00:15:51,817 --> 00:16:05,197 END OF 2024. IT SEEMED AT THE TIME IT WOULD BE AN UNREALISTIC PROMISE. BUT AS WE REPORTED IN APRIL, THE 139 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:12,771 RESURRECTION OF NOTRE DAME NOW SEEMS WITHIN REACH. FLAMES TORE THROUGH THE ROOF OF NOTRE DAME ON THE EVENING OF 140 00:16:12,838 --> 00:16:20,145 APRIL 15th, 2019, AND SPREAD WITH INCREDIBLE SPEED AND FEROCITY, ENGULFING HER 200-FOOT SPIRE. 141 00:16:20,212 --> 00:16:27,553 >> EVERYBODY STOPS. >> Reporter: JEAN-LOUIS GEORGELIN IS THE MAN NOW IN CHARGE OF RESTORING NOTRE DAME. 142 00:16:27,619 --> 00:16:39,765 >> AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FRANCE CRIED BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT SOMETHING VERY DEEP IN THE SOUL OF FRANCE, IN THE SPIRIT OF 143 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:48,640 FRANCE WAS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE. >> Reporter: ONLY A HEROIC EFFORT BY THE PARIS FIRE BRIGADE SAVED NOTRE DAME FROM COLLAPSE, 144 00:16:48,707 --> 00:16:58,083 AS A FEW STAFFERS RACED THROUGH FALLING EMBERS TO RESCUE PRECIOUS RELICS. PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE, THE 145 00:16:58,150 --> 00:17:01,520 CATHEDRAL'S CHIEF ARCHITECT, WAS OUT OF TOWN THAT NIGHT AND RACED BACK TO PARIS. HE WAS DEVASTATED BY WHAT HE 146 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:09,795 SAW. "I'VE SAID THAT THE LITTLE BOY WHO WAS IN LOVE WITH THE CATHEDRAL AND THE ARCHITECT WHO 147 00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:16,635 WAS IN CHARGE OF IT DIED THAT DAY AND ANOTHER MAN TOOK OVER AND SAID, I HAVE TO SAVE THE CATHEDRAL. 148 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:25,611 IT'S MY MISSION. IT'S MY DUTY." VILLENEUVE NOW SHARES THAT DUTY. IF HE'S THE ARTIST WHO KNOWS 149 00:17:25,677 --> 00:17:31,917 EVERY INCH OF STONE IN NOTRE DAME, RETIRED ARMY GENERAL GEORGELIN IS THE COMMANDER, CALLED BACK TO MEET THAT 150 00:17:31,984 --> 00:17:39,858 FIVE-YEAR DEADLINE. >> I WILL RELAX ONLY WHEN THIS WILL BE DONE. >> WHAT DOES THIS CATHEDRAL MEAN 151 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:48,267 TO THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE? >> THE CATHEDRAL OF NOTRE DAME DE PARIS IS IN SOME WAY THE HEART OF FRANCE. 152 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:54,072 FOR THE CATHOLIC, OF COURSE, FOR THE CHRISTIAN, BUT FOR EVERYBODY. ALL THE GREAT EVENTS OF FRANCE 153 00:17:54,139 --> 00:18:01,013 IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER TOOK PLACE HERE IN THE CATHEDRAL. >> Reporter: NAPOLEON CROWNED HIMSELF EMPEROR IN NOTRE DAME IN 154 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:11,790 1804. IN 1944 AS PARIS WAS LIBERATED FROM NAZI OCCUPATION, GENERAL CHARLES DE GAULLE BRAVED SNIPER 155 00:18:11,857 --> 00:18:20,666 FIRE TO ENTER THE CATHEDRAL. [ GUNSHOTS ] >> IN MANY WAYS YOU COULD SAY THAT SHE'S THE PEOPLE'S PALACE. 156 00:18:20,732 --> 00:18:25,571 >> AGNES POIRIER IS A JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR WHO LIVES AND WORKS JUST ACROSS THE RIVER SEINE FROM NOTRE DAME. 157 00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:36,148 SHE AND HER NEIGHBORS WATCHED THE MOST HORRIFYING MOMENT THE NIGHT OF THE FIRE, THE COLLAPSE OF THAT IMPOSING SPIRE. 158 00:18:36,215 --> 00:18:47,559 >> I REMEMBER THE SCREAM OF THE CROWD, SAYING "NO." AS IF THEY COULDN'T -- THEY COULDN'T CONCEIVE SUCH A THING. 159 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:56,168 >> THAT SPIRE MEANT SO MUCH TO PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE THAT HE HAD IT TATTOOED ON HIS ARM. "THEY SAY THAT I HAVE NOTRE DAME 160 00:18:56,235 --> 00:19:03,609 IN MY SKIN," HE TOLD US. "IT'S VERY PRACTICAL BECAUSE WHEN I HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW THE SPIRE FELL IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO 161 00:19:03,675 --> 00:19:13,619 SHOW THAT FROM HERE TO THERE IT TIPPED OVER." THE HUGE SPIRE MADE OF OAK AND COVERED IN LEAD TILES CRASHED 162 00:19:13,685 --> 00:19:21,527 THROUGH TWO OF THE STONE VAULTS WHICH FORM THE CEILING OF NOTRE DAME, LEAVING GAPING HOLES AT THE TOP AND HEAPS OF BROKEN 163 00:19:21,593 --> 00:19:28,901 STONE AND CHARRED WOOD ON THE FLOOR BELOW. THE TOP PRIORITY WAS TO SHORE UP THE GRAND CATHEDRAL'S WEAKENED 164 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:38,377 STRUCTURE. HUGE TEMPORARY WOODEN SUPPORTS WERE PLACED UNDER THE SURVIVING STONE VAULTS OF HER CEILING AND 165 00:19:38,443 --> 00:19:46,818 UNDER THE FLYING BUTTRESSES TO SAVE THIS PRIME EXAMPLE OF MEDIEVAL ENGINEERING. >> WE HAVE TO CHECK EVERY STONE 166 00:19:46,885 --> 00:19:54,826 IN THE CATHEDRAL, EVERY PILLAR. >> AT THE SAME TIME, A HUGE DECONTAMINATION PROJECT WAS MOUNTED TO REMOVE LEAD TILES 167 00:19:54,893 --> 00:20:03,569 THAT HAD MELTED FROM THE BURNING ROOF AND SPIRE AND ALL THE TOXIC LEAD DUST SPREAD BY THE FIRE. FOUR YEARS ON WORKERS STILL TAKE 168 00:20:03,635 --> 00:20:10,943 EXTRAORDINARY PRECAUTIONS AGAINST LEAD POISONING. WE HAD TO WEAR DISPOSABLE HAZMAT SUITS TO ENTER THE CATHEDRAL. 169 00:20:11,009 --> 00:20:16,982 TONS OF RUBBLE HAD TO BE REMOVED. PAINTINGS AND STAINED GLASS WINDOWS WERE TAKEN AWAY FOR 170 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:25,190 RESTORATION. AND TWISTED STEEL SCAFFOLDING ERECTED FOR ONGOING RESTORATION WORK HAD TO BE DISMANTLED. 171 00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:34,633 >> SO YOU WERE IN THE PROCESS OF RESTORING THE SPIRE WHEN THE FIRE BROKE OUT IN 2019. DID YOUR RESTORATION PROJECT 172 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:47,913 HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRE BREAKING OUT? "AN INVESTIGATION IS STILL UNDER WAY," PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE TOLD 173 00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:51,950 US, "AND NO CAUSE OF THE FIRE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. BUT PERSONALLY, IT'S UNBEARABLE. THIS FIRE NEVER SHOULD HAVE 174 00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:58,824 HAPPENED, AND IT DID. INEVITABLY, I FEEL RESPONSIBLE." >> SO YOU KNOW -- >> Reporter: AT THAT POINT IN 175 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:04,296 OUR INTERVIEW VILLENEUVE SWITCHED TO ENGLISH, WITH A RUEFUL SMILE. >> IN REALITY, I'M TOTALLY 176 00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:15,207 DESTROYED. >> REALLY? >> YES. I SO WANT TO REBUILD NOTRE DAME. 177 00:21:15,273 --> 00:21:22,948 IT'S BECAUSE I WANT TO REBUILD MYSELF. >> THE FIRE'S DEEPLY EMOTIONAL IMPACT ON PHILIPPE 178 00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:30,088 VILLENEUVE WAS MIRRORED AROUND THE WORLD. ♪ NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS IN 179 00:21:30,155 --> 00:21:37,996 PRIVATE DONATIONS HAVE BEEN PLEDGED TO REBUILD NOTRE DAME, MOST OF IT FROM FRANCE. $50 MILLION FROM AMERICANS. 180 00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:42,801 >> I KNOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES CONTRIBUTED. >> THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE AGAIN. >> THEY CAN CONTINUE TO 181 00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:47,439 CONTRIBUTE, HUH? >> YEAH. THE CASH IS ALWAYS RUNNING. IF THEY WANT TO GIVE ME MONEY, I 182 00:21:47,506 --> 00:21:53,745 NEED. >> IN THE WEEKS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE FIRE, ALL SORTS OF IDEAS WERE FLOATED 183 00:21:53,812 --> 00:22:02,721 FOR HOW CENTURIES-OLD NOTRE DAME MIGHT BE GIVEN A TOUCH OF AVANT-GARDE. >> AND ALL THOSE ARCHITECTS 184 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:09,061 THROUGHOUT THE WORLD SAID YES, LET'S HAVE A ROOF GARDEN, LET'S HAVE A GOLDEN TORCH, LET'S HAVE A TITANIUM SPIRE. 185 00:22:09,127 --> 00:22:18,470 YOU KNOW, EVEN I, FOR 20 SECONDS I THOUGHT, HMM, TO ADD SOME 21st CENTURY GENIUS TO NOTRE DAME, WHY NOT? 186 00:22:18,537 --> 00:22:28,080 >> CHIEF ARCHITECT PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE HAD A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER WHY NOT. "AN HISTORIC MONUMENT, A 187 00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:34,953 CATHEDRAL, IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PLAYED WITH," HE TOLD US. "NOTRE DAME HAD BEEN STANDING FOR 850 YEARS WITH A WOODEN 188 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:44,429 FRAME AND A LEAD ROOF. SO WOOD IS THE WAY TO GO." IN THE END PRESIDENT MACRON AND A SPECIAL COMMITTEE AGREED TO 189 00:22:44,496 --> 00:22:52,337 REBUILD NOTRE DAME EXACTLY AS SHE HAD BEEN, AND WITH THE SAME MATERIALS, STONE, WOOD, AND LEAD. 190 00:22:52,404 --> 00:23:04,182 >> HOW IS IT THAT THE TRADITIONALISTS WON OUT? >> WELL, I THINK WISDOM WON. >> NOTRE DAME'S 191 00:23:04,249 --> 00:23:08,887 SIGNATURE SPIRE WAS A FAIRLY RECENT ADDITION. IMAGES OF THE CATHEDRAL FROM THE MID 1800s SHOW HER WITHOUT A 192 00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:15,227 SPIRE AND IN AN ADVANCED STATE OF DECAY. >> THE CATHEDRAL WAS IN GREAT DISREPAIR, WAS IT NOT? 193 00:23:15,293 --> 00:23:24,402 >> IT WAS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE. BUT OF NEGLECT, NOT OF FIRE. >> THERE WERE EVEN PROPOSALS TO DEMOLISH NOTRE DAME 194 00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:29,975 BEFORE THE CATHEDRAL CRUMBLED ON ITS OWN. INSTEAD, THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT HIRED A YOUNG ARCHITECT NAMED 195 00:23:30,041 --> 00:23:37,916 VIOLLET-LE-DUC. HE CREATED THAT FAMOUS SPIRE. >> SO YOU ARE REBUILDING THE SPIRE EXACTLY AS VIOLLET-LE-DUC? 196 00:23:37,983 --> 00:23:49,928 >> YES. >> ARE YOU USING HIS ORIGINAL DRAWINGS? "WE WERE LUCKY," HE SAID, 197 00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:53,498 "BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREMELY WELL DOCUMENTED. WE HAVE THE DRAWINGS OF VIOLLET-LE-DUC, THE SKETCHES, 198 00:23:53,565 --> 00:24:01,940 THE SURVEYS. WE HAVE EVERYTHING NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO REMAKE IT." A THOUSAND FRENCH OAK TREES WERE 199 00:24:02,007 --> 00:24:07,746 FELLED FOR THE NEW SPIRE, THEN FINE-CUT BY CARPENTERS IN EASTERN FRANCE. IN OTHER WORKSHOPS AROUND THE 200 00:24:07,813 --> 00:24:15,120 COUNTRY THE CATHEDRAL'S ORGAN, THE LARGEST IN FRANCE, AND MANY OF ITS STAINED GLASS WINDOWS WERE RESTORED. 201 00:24:15,187 --> 00:24:20,358 >> HOW MANY WORKERS AND CRAFTSMEN DO YOU HAVE ON THIS PROJECT? >> IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL 202 00:24:20,425 --> 00:24:30,368 OF THE PEOPLE IN FRANCE, IT'S ABOUT 1,000 PEOPLE. >> ON THE PLAZA IN FRONT OF NOTRE DAME A HUGE TENT 203 00:24:30,435 --> 00:24:39,311 HAS BEEN ERECTED WHERE STONE CUTTERS AND SCULPTORS ARE RECREATING GOTHIC GARGOYLES AND ADORNMENTS DAMAGED IN THE FIRE. 204 00:24:39,377 --> 00:24:52,224 PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE SUPERVISES EVERY DETAIL. "I'LL MAKE THEM PUT THEIR FINGERS ON THE LAYERS OF THE 205 00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:55,794 ORIGINAL SCULPTURE," HE SAID, "AND THEN ON THE LAYER THEY'RE SCULPTING." >> SO HE WANTS YOU TO FEEL IT. 206 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:59,998 >> MM-HMM. >> NOT JUST LOOK AT IT. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> AND THAT WORKS? 207 00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:10,242 >> YEAH. I THINK TOO. >> DANAE LEBLOND IS JUST 23 YEARS OLD, SCULPTING AND 208 00:25:10,308 --> 00:25:15,847 CHISELING TO RECREATE A FLORAL DETAIL CARVED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO. "WE TRY TO REMAKE THINGS 209 00:25:15,914 --> 00:25:21,620 IDENTICALLY," SHE SAID, "BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENTION OF THE ORIGINAL SCULPTORS. 210 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:32,330 SO WE LOOK AT THE TRACES LEFT BY THEIR TOOLS." WE WERE GIVEN RARE ACCESS TO THE PAINSTAKING RESTORATION OF NOTRE 211 00:25:32,397 --> 00:25:37,903 DAME AS WORKERS AND ARTISANS REVIVED THE CATHEDRAL'S EXTERIOR -- >> THE TOWERS OF THE CATHEDRAL. 212 00:25:37,969 --> 00:25:44,242 >> Reporter: AND HER INTERIOR. >> OH, MY GOD. >> Reporter: THE CATHEDRAL'S GREAT ROSE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN 213 00:25:44,309 --> 00:25:52,651 METICULOUSLY CLEANED. >> LOOK AT THIS. >> Reporter: AND EVERY INCH OF STONE COATED WITH LATEX, WHICH 214 00:25:52,717 --> 00:26:02,694 WHEN PEELED AWAY LEAVES THE SURFACE GLEAMING. WE FOUND RESTORERS, MATHILDE MAIRE AND AUDE MASSIMI WORKING 215 00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:14,272 ON PAINTED STONE SCULPTURES DEPICTING SCENES FROM THE LIFE OF CHRIST. >> HOW OLD IS THIS? 216 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:22,180 "THIS PART OF THE CATHEDRAL," SHE SAID, "WAS BUILT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 14th CENTURY. THESE SCULPTURES ARE MEDIEVAL." 217 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:29,554 THE RESTORERS ARE CAREFULLY WIPING EVERY SURFACE WITH SMALL COTTON SWABS DIPPED IN A WATER-BASED CLEANING SOLUTION. 218 00:26:29,621 --> 00:26:36,895 >> SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF PATIENCE. >> YES. OUI. 219 00:26:36,962 --> 00:26:42,167 >> Reporter: "YES," SHE SAYS. "YOU HAVE TO BE CALM AND KNOW THAT IT WILL TAKE TIME. BUT IT'S A PLEASURE." 220 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:50,475 >> WE CAN SEE SHE'S WIPING AWAY THE CENTURIES. >> A 600-TON MAZE OF SCAFFOLDING HAS BEEN BUILT 221 00:26:50,542 --> 00:27:01,720 INSIDE NOTRE DAME TO SUPPORT ALL THE WORK, ESPECIALLY THE REBUILDING OF THE SPIRE. GENERAL GEORGELIN TOOK US UP 222 00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:08,426 THROUGH IT, TWO-THIRDS OF THE WAY ON A CONSTRUCTION ELEVATOR. WE REACHED THE TOP CLIMBING STEPS AND LADDERS. 223 00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:19,637 >> THIS IS INCREDIBLE. WE WERE STANDING 100 FEET ABOVE THE CATHEDRAL FLOOR, IN EXACTLY THE SPOT WHERE THE FLAMING SPIRE 224 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:24,376 COLLAPSED. FOUR YEARS AGO THERE WAS NOTHING HERE BUT A VAST HOLE. >> THE DRAMA TOOK PLACE HERE. 225 00:27:24,442 --> 00:27:35,987 AND WE HAVE TO REBUILD THE VAULT OF THE TRANSEPT. THE SPIRE WILL BE THERE. 66 METERS HIGH. 226 00:27:36,054 --> 00:27:42,727 >> AT TOP OF THE OLD 200-FOOT SPIRE SAT THE COPPER SCULPTURE OF A ROOSTER, THE SYMBOL OF THE FRENCH PEOPLE. 227 00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:46,398 THE DAY AFTER THE FIRE PHILIPPE VILLENEUVE FOUND IT ON A LOWER ROOF, A BIT MANGLED BUT MIRACULOUSLY UNTOUCHED BY THE 228 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:56,374 FLAMES. IT HAS BEEN LEFT AS IT WAS FOUND AND WILL BE PUT ON DISPLAY IN THE RESTORED CATHEDRAL. 229 00:27:56,441 --> 00:28:01,212 "CAN I TELL YOU," VILLENEUVE SAYS, "THAT I PLAN TO PUT A NEW ROOSTER ON TOP OF A NEW SPIRE ONE YEAR TO THE DAY BEFORE THE 230 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:11,723 REOPENING OF THE CATHEDRAL. THERE WILL STILL BE SCAFFOLDING, BUT THE FRAME OF THE SPIRE WILL AGAIN BE IN THE SKY OF PARIS." 231 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:18,029 >> AND THE SPIRE WILL REST, REPOSE -- >> REST. >> REST. 232 00:28:18,096 --> 00:28:21,733 ON THESE FOUR PILLARS YOU SEE HERE. YOU SEE? >> BE MAGNIFICENT. 233 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:34,546 >> MAGNIFICENT, YES. FOR THE GLORY OF GOD AND FRANCE. >> GENERAL JEAN-LOUIS GEORGELIN WHO LED THE EFFORT TO 234 00:28:34,612 --> 00:28:39,717 RECONSTRUCT NOTRE DAME FOR MORE THAN FOUR YEARS DIED TEN DAYS AGO WHILE HIKING IN THE FRENCH PYRENEES. 235 00:28:39,784 --> 00:28:47,759 HE WAS 74. FRENCH PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON TWEETED THAT FRANCE HAD LOST ONE OF ITS GREAT SERVANTS AND NOTRE 236 00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:54,299 DAME THE MASTER MANAGER OF ITS RENAISSANCE, AND PLEDGED TO CARRY ON THE GENERAL'S MISSION TO HAVE THE GREAT CATHEDRAL 237 00:28:54,365 --> 00:29:10,615 REOPENED BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR. >>> IN DECEMBER, NEARLY EVERY MEMBER COUNTRY OF THE UNITED 238 00:29:10,682 --> 00:29:16,955 NATIONS PLEDGED TO PROTECT AT LEAST 30% OF THE WORLD'S LAND AND SEA BY 2030 TO REVERSE THE DAMAGE DONE BY HUMANS AND 239 00:29:17,021 --> 00:29:23,361 PROTECT VULNERABLE SPECIES. ONE OF THE ANIMALS AT RISK IS ALSO ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE OCEAN AND AMONG THE LEAST 240 00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:33,638 UNDERSTOOD. SPERM WHALES ARE NOT THE PREDATORS OF MOBY DICK LEGEND. AS WE FIRST TOLD YOU EARLIER 241 00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:41,746 THIS YEAR, THEY HAVE BRAINS SIX TIMES LARGER THAN OURS, AND SPEND MOST OF HER LIVES IN THE DARKEST DEPTHS OF THE OCEAN. 242 00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:48,286 IT IS DIFFICULT TO DESCRIBE THEIR SIZE WITHOUT COMPARING THEM TO A SCHOOL BUS. WE TRAVELED WITH 243 00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:51,990 "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" EXPLORER ENRIC SALA TO THE CARIBBEAN ISLAND OF DOMINICA, WHERE HE'S PROPOSING PROTECTION FOR THE 244 00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:56,828 HUNDREDS OF SPERM WHALES LIVING THERE. BUT FIRST, WE HAD TO FIND THEM. >> YOU GUYS READY?% 245 00:29:56,895 --> 00:30:01,499 GO! GO! GO! GO, GUYS, GO! 246 00:30:01,566 --> 00:30:06,704 >> LOOK IN THE WATER. COMING STRAIGHT TO YOU. >> MOST OF ENRIC SALA'S DIVES DON'T START LIKE A FIRE DRILL, 247 00:30:06,771 --> 00:30:11,442 EVEN THOUGH HE HAS SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS UNDERWATER AS AN EXPLORER. >> LOOK DOWN. 248 00:30:11,509 --> 00:30:15,647 AT THE BACK OF YOU! LOOK! THIS WAY! >> WE CAME FACE-TO-FACE WITH A 249 00:30:15,713 --> 00:30:22,921 POD OF WHALES, BUT THESE ARE NOT THE WHALES WE CAME ALL THIS WAY TO SEE. THESE ARE PYGMY KILLER WHALES, 250 00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:30,895 KNOWN TO THREATEN SPERM WHALES. AND BECAUSE THEY ARE HERE, THE SPERM WHALES ARE NOT. THESE KILLER WHALES CAN GROW UP 251 00:30:30,962 --> 00:30:37,435 TO 8 1/2 FEET IN SIZE. SALA TOLD US SEEING THEM UP CLOSE ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS. YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET 252 00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:45,710 INTO THE WATER WITH THEM? THEY ARE THAT ELUSIVE? >> NEVER SEE THEM. >> WHY IS THAT? 253 00:30:45,777 --> 00:30:51,649 >> THEY ARE VERY SMART. THEY HUNT LIKE WOLVES. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT INTERACTING WITH HUMANS. 254 00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:57,722 THEY'RE AFTER PREY. >> WE WERE OFF THE COAST OF DOMINICA. A COUNTRY IN THE EASTERN 255 00:30:57,789 --> 00:31:03,294 CARIBBEAN. RESIDENTS CALL IT NATURE ISLAND. THOSE RAIN-FOREST COVERED VOLCANIC PEAKS DROP THOUSANDS OF 256 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:08,066 FEET DOWN TO THE SEA FLOOR BELOW, WHICH IS WHY HUNDREDS OF SPERM WHALES LIVE IN THESE WATERS. 257 00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:15,340 TEY ARE ONE OF THE DEEPEST DIVING MAMMALS ON THE PLANET. THEY ARE MOSTLY FEMALES HERE, FAMILIES MADE UP OF 258 00:31:15,406 --> 00:31:21,145 GRANDMOTHERS, MOTHERS, AND DAUGHTERS WHO STAY TOGETHER FOR LIFE, NURSING AND RAISING THEIR YOUNG. 259 00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:29,554 WHEN ENRIC SALA WAS HERE IN DECEMBER, HIS "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" TEAM FILMED THIS. IT IS A POD OF SLEEPING FEMALE 260 00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:38,630 SPERM WHALES, VERTICAL GIANTS UP TO 40 FEET LONG, SUSPENDED NEAR THE SURFACE. THEIR NAP LASTS ONLY ABOUT 15 261 00:31:38,696 --> 00:31:45,837 MINUTES UNTIL THE WHALES ARE READY TO DIVE AGAIN IN WHAT CAN BE AN HOUR-LONG JOURNEY FOR SQUID THOUSANDS OF FEET DOWN. 262 00:31:45,903 --> 00:31:51,709 EVEN TO RESEARCHERS, WHY THEY SLEEP LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT MYSTERIES. WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE IN THE 263 00:31:51,776 --> 00:31:56,914 WATER WITH THEM? >> MAGICAL. WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS THE LEGEND OF MOBY DICK, THESE NASTY, 264 00:31:56,981 --> 00:32:04,856 AGGRESSIVE ANIMALS. BUT YOU JUMP IN THE WATER, AND THEY ARE SO DOCILE AND GENTLE. THEY HAVE NEVER ATTACKED HUMANS. 265 00:32:04,922 --> 00:32:15,867 AND THEY ARE SO CURIOUS, SO IT'S ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING WILDLIFE ENCOUNTERS THAT ONE CAN HAVE ON THE PLANET. 266 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:23,574 >> YOUR OFFICIAL TITLE IS EXPLORER IN RESIDENCE. NOT BAD. >> IT'S AN OXYMORON. 267 00:32:23,641 --> 00:32:26,644 EXPLORERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SITTING IN ONE PLACE. >> THAT'S TRUE. WHAT'S THAT MEAN TO BE AN 268 00:32:26,711 --> 00:32:30,315 EXPLORER IN 2023? >> VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT AN EXPLORER OF THE 19th CENTURY WAS. 269 00:32:30,381 --> 00:32:38,189 I CAN DEDICATE MY LIFE AND WORK WITH AN AMAZING TEAM OF SCIENTISTS, POLICY EXPERTS, FILMMAKERS, STORYTELLERS TO WORK 270 00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:46,764 WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES, GOVERNMENT, AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES TO ASSESS THE HEALTH OF OCEAN PLACES AND HELP TO PROTECT 271 00:32:46,831 --> 00:32:51,302 THEM. >> HE GREW UP NORTH OF BARCELONA, SPAIN, NEAR THE COAST. 272 00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:57,108 HIS FIRST DIVE WAS IN A MARINE RESERVE. >> IT DROVE EVERYTHING THAT I HAD DONE AFTERWARDS. 273 00:32:57,175 --> 00:33:04,515 IF WE GIVE THE OCEAN SPACE, IT CAN HEAL ITSELF. >> SALA MOVED TO CALIFORNIA WHERE HE WAS A PROFESSOR OF 274 00:33:04,582 --> 00:33:14,492 MARINE ECOLOGY FOR SEVEN YEARS AT THE SCRIPPS INSTITUTION OF OCEANOGRAPHY. YOU HAVE HAD A LONG CAREER IN 275 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,696 ACADEMIA AT A TOP UNIVERSITY AND YOU TRIED THAT AND DECIDED, NOT FOR ME. YOU WALKED AWAY. 276 00:33:18,763 --> 00:33:27,505 >> I WALKED AWAY, BECAUSE MY JOB WAS TO STUDY THE IMPACTS OF HUMANS IN THE OCEAN, THE IMPACTS OF FISHING AND GLOBAL WARMING. 277 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:31,008 AND ONE DAY I REALIZED, ALL I WAS DOING WAS WRITING THE OBITUARY OF THE OCEAN. >> WRITING TH OBITUARY OF THE 278 00:33:31,075 --> 00:33:34,178 OCEAN? >> YEAH, I FELT LIKE THE DOCTOR WHO WAS TELLING YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIE WITH EXCRUCIATING 279 00:33:34,245 --> 00:33:41,152 DETAIL, BUT NOT OFFERING A CURE. >> HAVE YOU FOUND THAT CURE? >> THERE IS ONE SOLUTION. THAT IS PROVEN. 280 00:33:41,219 --> 00:33:46,591 IT'S A SUCCESS STORY EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, WHICH IS MARINE RESERVES OR MARINE-PROTECTED AREAS. 281 00:33:46,657 --> 00:33:54,198 AREAS WHERE DAMAGING ACTIVITIES ARE BANNED AND MARINE LIFE CAN COME BACK. >> HE FOUNDED THE PRISTINE SEAS 282 00:33:54,265 --> 00:34:03,207 PROJECT IN 2008. IT COMBINES SEA EXPLORATION, SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, AND PUBLIC POLICY AND HAS WORKED WITH 17 283 00:34:03,274 --> 00:34:12,683 COUNTRIES TO TURN THESE LARGE SWATHS OF THE OCEAN INTO MARINE-PROTECTED AREAS. IN DOMINICA, SCIENTISTS ESTIMATE 284 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:21,092 THE SPERM WHALE POPULATION DECLINES BY 3% EACH YEAR. SALA SAYS A PRESERVE WOULD PROTECT THEM FROM THEIR GREATEST 285 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:30,034 THREAT -- NOT THOSE PYGMY KILLER WHALES WE SAW OR WHALING, WHICH HAS BEEN BANNED FOR DECADES, BUT PLASTIC TRASH, OCEAN NOISE 286 00:34:30,101 --> 00:34:36,874 POLLUTION, AND SHIP STRIKES. IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THE STATUS QUO HERE, WHAT HAPPENS? >> IF NOTHING IS DONE, THE 287 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:45,283 POPULATION WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE DECLINING. SO REDUCING THOSE THREATS, HOPEFULLY, WILL ALLOW THE SPERM 288 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:55,660 WHALE POPULATION TO REBOUND. AND THE MORE WHALES THERE ARE, THE MORE BENEFITS DOMINICA AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES WILL 289 00:34:55,726 --> 00:35:00,164 OBTAIN. >> HURRICANE MARIA DEVASTATED THOSE COMMUNITIES IN 2017. TODAY, THE ISLAND IS CONTINUING 290 00:35:00,231 --> 00:35:06,804 TO REBUILD AND PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE. FRANCINE BARON HEADS THE AGENCY IN CHARGE OF THAT EFFORT. 291 00:35:06,871 --> 00:35:11,042 WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HURRICANE MARIA THAT MADE THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY SAY, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING? 292 00:35:11,108 --> 00:35:20,485 WE REALLY HAVE TO ACT? >> WE SUFFERED THE EQUIVALENT OF 226% LOSS OF GDP. SO WE COULD SEE THE TREND. 293 00:35:20,551 --> 00:35:29,427 AND WE REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO BECOME MUCH MORE RESILIENT. >> WHEN ENRIC SALA CAME TO YOU WITH THIS IDEA OF CREATING THIS 294 00:35:29,494 --> 00:35:37,802 SANCTUARY FOR THESE WHALES, WHAT WAS HIS PITCH TO YOU? >> WE SEE WHALE WATCHING AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR TOURISM 295 00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:44,675 PRODUCT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. AND THE IDEA OF CREATING GREATER PROTECTION FOR THE WHALES IS 296 00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:53,284 SOMETHING THAT DOMINICA IS VERY OPEN TO AND WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT ENRIC MADE TO CREATE A RECOGNIZED 297 00:35:53,351 --> 00:36:01,526 SANCTUARY FOR THE WHALES. >> ENRIC SALA COMPARES IT TO A MODEL THAT WORKS IN RWANDA, WHERE PROTECTING MOUNTAIN 298 00:36:01,592 --> 00:36:06,297 GORILLAS HELPED BRING TOURISM DOLLARS TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. YOU GOING TO FIND US SOME WHALES? 299 00:36:06,364 --> 00:36:17,475 >> SURE. >> ALL RIGHT. CAPTAIN CURT BENOIT WAS BORN AND RAISED IN DOMINICA AND HAS BEEN 300 00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:21,546 IN THE WHALE AND TOURISM BUSINESS FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES. WE SET OUT ON HIS 38-FOOT "LADY 301 00:36:21,612 --> 00:36:25,550 ROSE" FROM A SMALL FISHING VILLAGE ON THE WEST COAST. OUR GOVERNMENT PERMIT TO SWIM WITH THE WHALES WAS GOOD FOR SIX 302 00:36:25,616 --> 00:36:33,991 DAYS. CAPTAIN BENOIT USES A HOMEMADE DEVICE THAT PICKS UP THE DISTINCT CLICKING OF SPERM 303 00:36:34,058 --> 00:36:39,230 WHALES AS FAR AS 11 MILES AWAY. >> WE'VE GOT WHALES IN THE SOUTH. >> EVERY THREE MILES, WE CHECK 304 00:36:39,297 --> 00:36:46,604 TO SEE IF WE WERE GETTING CLOSER. >> COME TO PAPA. THAT IS HER. 305 00:36:46,671 --> 00:36:50,308 >> TELL ME ABOUT THIS REALLY HIGH TECH DEVICE YOU'VE GOT HERE. >> YOU HAVE ON THE WATER A 306 00:36:50,374 --> 00:37:00,918 MICROPHONE WHICH PICKS UP SOUND FROM 360. SO WHAT I DID, I TOOK A SALAD BOWL WITH NEOPRENE, SO AS IT 307 00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:07,058 THE HYDROPHONE IS KIND OF HIDDEN SO AS IT GOES OUT, IT BRINGS YOU STRAIGHT TO WHEREVER YOU HEAR THE SOUND. 308 00:37:07,124 --> 00:37:09,694 >> THIS IS A SALAD BOWL FROM YOUR HOUSE? >> YES. >> WHAT DO THE WHALES SOUND 309 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,030 LIKE? >> IT'S LIKE A HORSE IS GALLOPING ON A HOT SURFACE. IF YOU HEAR SEVERAL OF THEM, 310 00:37:13,097 --> 00:37:17,401 THAT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF WHALES THERE. LET'S KEEP IT GOING. I'M GOING TO FIND THESE GUYS. 311 00:37:17,468 --> 00:37:22,340 >> ALL RIGHT! >> ON A SECOND DAY, A WATERSPOUT. SEE IT? 312 00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:30,181 RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN SEE ITS TOP. LOOK AT THEM. OH, MY GOSH. 313 00:37:30,247 --> 00:37:34,085 >> GO! >> SWIMMERS IN THE WATER. >> MALES HERE LIVE WITH THEIR FAMILIES UNTIL THEIR TEEN YEARS. 314 00:37:34,151 --> 00:37:41,392 THEN THEY ROAM MOSTLY ALONE, SWIMMING THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. CARIBBEAN MALE SPERM WHALES HAVE 315 00:37:41,459 --> 00:37:52,303 BEEN FOUND AS FAR AWAY AS NORWAY, RETURNING HERE ONLY TO MATE. OUR CAMERAMAN GOT LUCKY ENOUGH 316 00:37:52,370 --> 00:38:00,111 OR UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE WHALE POOP ON HIM. >> THE WHALES GO DOWN, HUNT SQUID, COME BACK TO THE SURFACE, 317 00:38:00,177 --> 00:38:10,521 THEY BREATHE, THEY REST, AND THEY POOP. AND THAT POOP IS FULL OF NUTRIENTS WHICH FERTILIZES THE 318 00:38:10,588 --> 00:38:14,158 SHALLOW WATERS. >> SO A GOOD THING, I GUESS. >> IT'S A GOOD THING. COME ON, PEOPLE, WE'RE LOOKING 319 00:38:14,225 --> 00:38:23,701 FOR SPOUTS. >> BUT OUR LUCK DIDN'T LAST. >> OKAY, GUYS, NOTHING AS YET. >> WE SPENT THE NEXT DAY 320 00:38:23,768 --> 00:38:27,138 SEARCHING FOR SPERM WHALES, AND THE NEXT. NOTHING AT ALL? >> NOTHING AT ALL. 321 00:38:27,204 --> 00:38:35,479 >> AND THE NEXT. NOT A SINGLE CLICK. >> YOU GUYS, IT'S PRETTY QUIET. >> AND THEN, IN THE LAST HOUR OF 322 00:38:35,546 --> 00:38:43,354 THE LAST DAY OF OUR TRIP -- >> WE HAVE LOTS OF ANIMALS IN THE AREA, GUYS. THEY'RE COMING BACK. 323 00:38:43,421 --> 00:38:52,730 BUT I'M GETTING SOME 360. SO THAT MEANS THE WHALES, WE ARE ABOVE THEM. WE ARE RIGHT THERE. 324 00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:59,470 >> THERE SHE BLOWS, THERE SHE BLOWS! GO! GO! 325 00:38:59,537 --> 00:39:03,774 AND STAY THERE. IT'S COMING TO YOU! IT'S COMING TO YOU! >> WE JUMPED IN THE WATER AND A 326 00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:12,750 YOUNG FEMALE SWAM RIGHT TO US. SHE CAME WITHIN FEET. AT FIRST, HER SIZE WAS TERRIFYING. 327 00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:20,624 SHE MADE A SOUND LIKE A CREAKING DOOR HINGE. IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WHALES COMMUNICATE AND SOCIALIZE. 328 00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:30,801 WITH EYES ON THE SIDE OF HER HEAD, SHE STARED RIGHT AT US. SHE HAD SQUID IN HER MOUTH, LEFTOVER FROM LUNCH THOUSANDS OF 329 00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:40,077 FEET BELOW. SHE STAYED AND ROLLED AROUND AND HER JAW WAS WIDE OPEN. SHE WAS USING ECHOLOCATION, 330 00:39:40,144 --> 00:39:49,553 BOUNCING THOSE CLICKS OFF OF US, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WERE. YOU COULD HEAR THE CLICKING. 331 00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:55,860 YOU COULD HEAR HER -- ONCE YOU WERE REALLY CLOSE TO HER, YOU COULD HEAR THAT. VERY LOUDLY. 332 00:39:55,926 --> 00:39:59,063 >> I COULD FEEL IT IN MY BONES. >> YOU GRABBED MY HAND. YOU COULD TELL I WAS NERVOUS. >> I WAS EXCITED TOO. 333 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:04,301 >> YOU WERE? >> THEY ARE HUGE. YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THEM. >> YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THEM. 334 00:40:04,368 --> 00:40:10,608 THERE IS A SENSE OF AWE THAT COMES WITH BEING IN THERE. SHE WAS LOOKING RIGHT AT US. AND SHE LEFT US A SOUVENIR. 335 00:40:10,674 --> 00:40:17,982 >> A PIECE OF SQUID. >> SPERM WHALES LIVE -- >> SHANE GERO IS ANOTHER "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" EXPLORER. 336 00:40:18,048 --> 00:40:32,696 HE STARTED THE DOMINICA SPERM WHALE PROJECT, AND OVER THE PAST 18 YEARS, HE'S IDENTIFIED 35 FAMILIES. 337 00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:45,576 DID YOU RECOGNIZE THE WHALE WE SAW? >> THE ONE YOU SAW IS THE EC2 CLAN. 338 00:40:45,643 --> 00:40:48,579 THE ONE YOU SAW, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THAT MUCH. AND THOSE GROUPS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY MAKING SPECIFIC 339 00:40:48,646 --> 00:40:52,116 PATTERNS OF CLICKS CALLED CODAS. IT'S A PART OF WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEIR GRANDMOTHER GREW UP, AND SO IT REALLY TIES THE 340 00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:56,854 ANIMALS AND THE PLACE TOGETHER. >> WHAT DOES THE CODA OF THE EC2 SOUND LIKE? >> THEY MAKE THE 5R3 CODA. 341 00:40:56,921 --> 00:41:08,465 AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS. FIVE SLOW CLICKS. AND SHE CAME UP TO YOU AND MADE THIS 5R3 CODA, SAYING I AM FROM 342 00:41:08,532 --> 00:41:17,408 THE EC2 CLAN, ARE YOU? >> SHE WAS ROLLING AROUND AND KEPT COMING BACK. BUT IS THAT ME ASSIGNING HUMAN 343 00:41:17,474 --> 00:41:24,315 CHARACTERISTICS TO A WHALE, OR IS SHE ACTUALLY A PLAYFUL ANIMAL? >> THESE ARE THE ANIMALS THAT 344 00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:30,054 ARE HOLDING THE LARGEST BRAIN TO EVER EXIST, MAYBE IN THE UNIVERSE AND THEY USE THAT FOR COMPLICATED THINKING AND 345 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:37,928 BEHAVIOR. ABSOLUTELY, THIS WAS AN ANIMAL THAT WAS PLAYFUL. AND THAT CURIOSITY OF THE ANIMAL 346 00:41:37,995 --> 00:41:44,668 ACTIVELY COMING TOWARDS YOU JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS AN ANIMAL THAT'S INVESTIGATING SOMETHING IN ITS WORLD. 347 00:41:44,735 --> 00:41:53,510 >> BACK ON THE DOCK -- >> THERE IS A TREASURE HERE. >> ENRIC SALA SAYS IT'S THAT WORLD HE'S TRYING TO PROTECT. 348 00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:59,617 >> BEING IN THE WATER WITH SPERM WHALES IS A MAGICAL EXPERIENCE. THERE'S SOMETHING SPIRITUAL THERE. 349 00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:05,122 IT'S MORE THAN SCIENCE AND DATA. A SENSE OF AWE AND WONDER THAT IS UNAVOIDABLE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE WATER WITH THESE GENTLE 350 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:10,995 GIANTS. 351 00:42:20,971 --> 00:42:31,315 >>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MINUTES.. >> NEW "BIG BROTHER" NEXT.