1 00:00:05,772 --> 00:00:20,553 >>> GLOBAL TRADE HAS BEEN SEVERELY DISRUPTED IN THE RED SEA BY A DANGEROUS MILITIA IN YEMEN. 2 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:26,960 WHAT THE U.S. NAVY IS TRYING TO STOP. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THE U.S. NAVY OPERATED AT THIS 3 00:00:27,026 --> 00:00:34,534 PACE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS? >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORLD WAR II, WHERE YOU HAVE SHIPS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN COMBAT. 4 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:45,378 WHEN I SAY "ENGAGED IN COMBAT," WHERE THEY'RE GETTING SHOT AT, WE'RE GETTING SHOT AT, AND WE'RE SHOOTING BACK. 5 00:00:45,445 --> 00:00:49,949 >>> BEAUTIFUL KIDS. GOOD, GOOD. I'M GOING TO BLAME YOU, ANDREW, IF THEY DON'T DO IT. 6 00:00:50,016 --> 00:00:59,926 >> CAN YOU IMAGINE THE REPERCUSSIONS ON MYSELF, MY FAMILY, IF IT WAS ME, ANDREW HITT, WHO PREVENTED DONALD TRUMP 7 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:05,799 FROM WINNING WISCONSIN. >> YOU'RE SAYING YOU WERE SCARED? >> IT WAS NOT A SAFE TIME. 8 00:01:05,865 --> 00:01:16,709 IF MY LAWYER IS RIGHT AND THE WHOLE REASON TRUMP LOSES WISCONSIN WAS BECAUSE OF ME, I WOULD BE SCARED TO DEATH. 9 00:01:16,776 --> 00:01:32,258 >>> 5,000 MILES FROM HOLLYWOOD, "OPPENHEIMER" STAR CRIKILLIAN MURPHY -- HIS OSCAR NOMINATION BRINGS A BLINDING LIGHT TO AN 10 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:41,067 ARTIST WHO WOULD RATHER DISAPPEAR. EMILY BLUNT TOLD ME, HALF JOKING, YOUR INTERVIEW WITH 11 00:01:41,134 --> 00:01:48,408 CILLIAN WILL BE A DISASTER. IS THIS GOING TO BE A DISASTER? >> I DON'T, I HOPE NOT. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 12 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:52,645 >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. 13 00:01:52,712 --> 00:02:02,188 >> I'M SEE CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M NORAH O'DONNELL. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT 14 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:16,803 ON "60 MINUTES." >>> AFTER HAMAS LAUNCHED ITS DEADLY TERRORIST ATTACK IN ISRAEL THIS PAST OCTOBER AND 15 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:24,911 ISRAEL BEGAN ITS UNRELENTING WAR IN GAZA IN RESPONSE, PRESIDENT BIDEN WARNED IRAN AND ITS PROXIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST TO 16 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:31,217 STAY OUT OF IT. ONE OF THOSE GROUPS DECIDED INSTEAD THAT IT WAS ALL-IN. THAT GROUP IS A SHIA MILITIA IN 17 00:02:31,284 --> 00:02:38,992 YEMEN KNOWN AS THE HOUTHIS. YEMEN IS THE POOREST COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, BUT ITS 1,200 MILES OF COASTLINE LEADS IN AND 18 00:02:39,058 --> 00:02:46,533 OUT OF THE SUEZ CANAL, THE PRIMARY ROUTE BY SEA BETWEEN EUROPE AND ASIA, RESPONSIBLE FOR A TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN 19 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:53,339 GLOBAL TRADE. SO, WHEN THE HOUTHIS BEGAN TO ATTACK COMMERCIAL SHIPS IN SOLIDARITY WITH HAMAS, PRESIDENT 20 00:02:53,406 --> 00:03:05,251 BIDEN FACED A CRISIS IN THE RED SEA AND SENT THE U.S. NAVY INTO ITS FIRST MAJOR FIGHT OF THE 21st CENTURY. 21 00:03:05,318 --> 00:03:15,128 >> Reporter: OUR REPORT BEGINS NOT ON THE WATER BUT IN THE AIR. WHERE FROM A U.S. NAVY RECONNAISSANCE PLANE 500 FEET 22 00:03:15,194 --> 00:03:24,304 ABOVE THE RED SEA, WE WERE THE FIRST JOURNALISTS TO SEE THE TYPES OF COMMERCIAL SHIPS THE HOUTHIS HAVE TARGETED, AND THE 23 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:32,478 U.S. WARSHIPS SENT TO PROTECT THEM. >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THE HOUTHIS HOLD THIS STRAIT 24 00:03:32,545 --> 00:03:37,383 HOSTAGE. >> Reporter: VICE ADMIRAL BRAD COOPER IS THE U.S. MILITARY'S DEPUTY COMMANDER IN THE MIDDLE 25 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:43,489 EAST. AFTER OCTOBER 7th, AS THE NAVY'S TOP OFFICER IN THE REGION, HE ORDERED THE FIFTH FLEET INTO AN 26 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:48,628 AREA IT TYPICALLY SAILED RIGHT THROUGH. >> HOW MANY SAILORS ARE NOW IN THE RED SEA? 27 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:55,835 >> WE'VE GOT ABOUT 7,000 RIGHT NOW. IT'S A LARGE COMMITMENT. >> WHAT MAKES THE RED SEA ONE OF 28 00:03:55,902 --> 00:04:03,443 THE MOST IMPORTANT WATERWAYS IN THE WORLD? >> 15% OF GLOBAL TRADE FLOWS EXACTLY THROUGH THE RED SEA. 29 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:10,950 SO, KEEPING THESE WATERWAYS OPEN IS CRITICAL. IT'S A CORE COMMITMENT THE UNITED STATES HAS FROM STRATEGIC 30 00:04:11,017 --> 00:04:16,456 PERSPECTIVES, MAINTAINING A LEVEL OF COMMERCE. >> Reporter: THE RED SEA IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF CALIFORNIA. 31 00:04:16,522 --> 00:04:29,836 IN THE NORTH, THE SUEZ CANAL. IN THE SOUTH, THE 20-MILE-WIDE STRAIT KNOWN AS THE "GATE OF GRIEF." 32 00:04:29,902 --> 00:04:36,776 IT WAS NEAR THERE THREE MONTHS AGO THAT A JAPANESE CHARTERED SHIP BUILT TO CARRY CARS WAS HI JACKED BY THE HOUTHIS, WHO 33 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:44,150 POSTED THIS VIDEO. SINCE THEN, ACCORDING TO THE PENTAGON, THE HOUTHIS HAVE ATTACKED AT LEAST 45 SHIPS. 34 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:52,625 AND THE U.S. NAVY HAS SHOT DOWN MORE THAN 95 DRONES AND MISSILES FIRED BY THE MILITIA THAT CONTROLS ONE-THIRD OF YEMEN, 35 00:04:52,692 --> 00:05:00,099 INCLUDING THE CAPITAL, SANAA. AS HOUTHI ATTACKS INTENSIFIED IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, THE WORLD'S LARGEST CONTAINER SHIP 36 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:10,109 COMPANIES ALL MADE THE DECISION TO AVOID THE SUEZ AND GO AROUND AFRICA'S CAPE OF GOOD HOPE, ADDING AS MUCH AS A MONTH OF 37 00:05:10,176 --> 00:05:18,484 TRAVEL TIME AND A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUEL. U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIR JEROME POWELL TOLD "60 MINUTES" 38 00:05:18,551 --> 00:05:22,955 TWO WEEKS AGO, THE DIVERSIONS POSE A RISK TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. AND IN THE NEAR TERM -- 39 00:05:23,022 --> 00:05:29,228 >> THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT EUROPE MUCH MORE THAN IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US. >> Reporter: TESLA AND VOLVO 40 00:05:29,295 --> 00:05:36,569 WERE BOTH FORCED TO SUSPEND SOME EUROPEAN PRODUCTION LAST MONTH DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTIONS. THERE ARE STILL SHIPS GOING 41 00:05:36,636 --> 00:05:43,543 THROUGH THE SUEZ, MOSTLY SMALLER, REGIONAL CARRIERS THAT ARE WILLING TO RUN THE CURRENT RISKS OF THE RED SEA. 42 00:05:43,609 --> 00:05:49,348 >> HOW MUCH IS THAT IN TERMS OF THAT TRAFFIC? HAS IT BEEN REDUCED BY HALF? >> IT'S BEEN REDUCED. 43 00:05:49,415 --> 00:05:57,824 ON ANY GIVEN DAY, SOMETIMES 40%. BUT IT'S CLEARLY FLOWING. I THINK IN MANY RESPECTS, IT'S FLOWING BECAUSE OF THE DEFENSIVE 44 00:05:57,890 --> 00:06:05,898 UMBRELLA WE PUT OVER THE SOUTHERN RED SEA FOR SURE. >> Reporter: THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THAT DEFENSIVE UMBRELLA IS 45 00:06:05,965 --> 00:06:12,538 "OPERATION PROSPERITY GUARDIAN." IT'S A COALITION OF MORE THAN 20 NATIONS THAT INCLUDES THE UNITED KINGDOM. 46 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:23,783 BUT MOST OF THE SHIPS, AIRCRAFT, AND FIRE POWER ARE COMING FROM AMERICA. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT 47 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:32,391 THE U.S. NAVY OPERATED IN THIS PACE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS? >> I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORLD WAR II, WHERE YOU HAVE 48 00:06:32,458 --> 00:06:40,233 SHIPS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN COMBAT. WHEN I SAY, ENGAGED IN COMBAT, WHERE THEY'RE GETTING SHOT AT, WE'RE GETTING SHOT AT, AND WE'RE 49 00:06:40,299 --> 00:06:46,205 SHOOTING BACK. >> Reporter: INITIALLY, THE HOUTHIS, BACKED BY IRAN, STATED THEY WOULD ONLY SHOOT AT SHIPS 50 00:06:46,272 --> 00:06:55,348 LINKED TO ISRAEL. IN SUPPORT OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND TO FORCE A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA. 51 00:06:55,414 --> 00:07:02,288 THEIR ULTIMATE POLITICAL AIMS, AS WELL AS THEIR ACTUAL AIM, APPEARS TO BE LESS PRECISE. THEY HAVE FIRED AT SHIPS TIED TO 52 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:13,900 DOZENS OF NATIONS. THE HOUTHIS' OFFICIAL MOTTO IS, GOD IS GREAT, DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL, A CURSE UPON 53 00:07:13,966 --> 00:07:24,177 THE JEWS, VICTORY TO ISLAM. WHILE THEIR SLOGAN MAY NOT BE NEW, THEIR WEAPONS AND TACTICS ARE, ACCORDING TO ADMIRAL 54 00:07:24,243 --> 00:07:30,616 COOPER. >> THE HOUTHIS ARE THE FIRST ENTITY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD TO USE ANTISHIP BALLISTIC 55 00:07:30,683 --> 00:07:36,222 MISSILES EVER, FIRING AT SHIPPING. >> NO ONE HAS EVER USED -- >> NO ONE HAS EVER USED AN 56 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:41,594 ANTI-SHIP BALLISTIC MISSILE, CERTAINLY AGAINST COMMERCIAL SHIPPING, MUCH LESS AGAINST U.S. NAVY SHIPS. 57 00:07:41,661 --> 00:07:48,067 >> Reporter: ADMIRAL COOPER TOOK US INSIDE THE FIFTH FLEET'S HEADQUARTERS IN BAHRAIN. >> I THINK THERE'S A SENSE THE 58 00:07:48,134 --> 00:07:52,738 HOUTHIS ARE A RAG TAG, KIND OF, TERRORIST GROUP. >> YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 59 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:59,212 THAT CAN BE A SENSE, AND IT WOULD BE A FALSE SENSE. WE WILL UNWISE TO CONSIDER THAT. YOU HAVE TEN YEARS OF BEING 60 00:07:59,278 --> 00:08:08,421 SUPPLIED BY THE IRANIANS, VERY SOHISTICATED ADVANCED WEAPONS. THEY HAVE HIT A FEW SHIPS. >> OF THOSE TARGETS, HOW MANY OF 61 00:08:08,487 --> 00:08:15,461 THEM ARE DIRECTED AT U.S. NAVAL ASSETS? >> THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE BEEN 62 00:08:15,528 --> 00:08:21,934 DIRECTED AT INTERNATIONALLY FLAGGED MERCHANT SHIPS. A SMALL PERCENTAGE ARE AT U.S. NAVY SHIPS. 63 00:08:22,001 --> 00:08:27,273 >> WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE WOULD THAT DO ON A COMMERCIAL SHIP? >> LET'S GO RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS 64 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:32,044 LIKE. THE HOUTHIS ATTACKED IT, AND YOU CAN SEE IN PRACTICAL TERMS WHAT THE DAMAGE WAS. 65 00:08:32,111 --> 00:08:40,786 >> Reporter: THE HOUTHIS ALSO HAVE INEXPENSIVE IRANIAN-DESIGNED ATTACK DRONES IN THEIR ARSENAL, LIKE THE 66 00:08:40,853 --> 00:08:47,894 15-FOOT-WIDE SAMAD, WITH A RANGE OF UP TO 1,100 MILES. SOME OF THEIR ANTI-SHIP BALLISTIC MISSILES RESEMBLE THE 67 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:54,767 IRANIAN WEAPONS SEEN HERE AND CAN HIT TARGETS UP TO ABOUT 300 MILES AWAY. >> IF THERE WAS AN ANTI-SHIP 68 00:08:54,834 --> 00:09:04,610 BALLISTIC MISSILE LAUNCHED, THIS BALLISTIC MISSILES TRAVELS ABOUT MACH 5. >> HOW MUCH TIME IS BETWEEN 69 00:09:04,677 --> 00:09:12,852 HOUTHI LAUNCH AND IT COULD REACH A U.S. SHIP? >> IF IT'S COMING TO THEM -- PUT YOURSELF IN THE SEAT OF THE 70 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:17,490 DESTROYER CAPTAIN. HE HAS 9 TO 15 SECONDS TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHETHER TO SHOOT THAT DOWN. 71 00:09:17,556 --> 00:09:24,563 IT'S INTENSE. >> Reporter: TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THOSE CAPTAINS DEPLOYED IN THE RED SEA, WE TOOK A FIVE-MILE 72 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:34,941 HELICOPTER RIDE FROM THE "USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER" OVER TO THE "USS MASON," WHERE WE MET COMMANDER JUSTIN SMITH. 73 00:09:35,007 --> 00:09:43,482 THE COMMANDER IS ONE OF FOUR WARSHIPS IN THE AREA THAT HAVE SHOT DOWN MORE THAN A DOZEN OF THE HOUTHIS ANTI-SHIP BALLISTIC 74 00:09:43,549 --> 00:09:47,853 MISSILES. >> HOW QUICKLY CAN YOU SEE THOSE? >> ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO TWO 75 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:54,193 MINUTES OUT. TO GIVE ME THE 9 TO 15 SECONDS AS THE CAPTAIN OF THIS SHIP OF WHAT MY ACTIONS ARE GOING TO BE. 76 00:09:54,260 --> 00:10:02,969 >> YOU MADE IT SOUND LIKE THAT'S ALLOT OF TIME, 9 TO 15 SECONDS. >> SEEMS SMALL AND SHORT IN DURATION, BUT MY CREW HAS THAT 77 00:10:03,035 --> 00:10:10,710 READY PROFICIENCY TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE. >> Reporter: WE LEARNED THAT SO FAR IN THIS CRISIS, THE NAVY HAS 78 00:10:10,776 --> 00:10:18,751 FIRED ABOUT 100 OF THEIR STANDARD SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILES THAT CAN COST AS MUCH AS $4 MILLION EACH. 79 00:10:18,818 --> 00:10:25,591 >> ROGER, OVER. >> Reporter: THE DECISION TO FIRE ONE AT AN INCOMING HOUTHI MISSILE OR KAMIKAZE ATTACK DRONE 80 00:10:25,658 --> 00:10:32,999 IS MADE IN THE SHIP'S COMBAT CENTER, OR CIC. >> WE CAN BE ATTACKED AT ANY TIME IN ANY PLACE. 81 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:38,471 >> Reporter: THAT'S WHERE COMMANDER SMITH SHOWED US A VIDEO OF THE "USS MASON" DOING JUST THAT. 82 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:45,177 >> SEE AN INTERCEPT HERE FOLLOWED BY A QUICK EXPLOSION, SHOWING A SUCCESSFUL ENGAGEMENT. >> THE WEAPONS SYSTEMS THAT YOU 83 00:10:45,244 --> 00:10:50,750 HAVE ON BOARD HERE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE STANDARD MISSILES, THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE WEAPONS. 84 00:10:50,816 --> 00:11:00,026 AND YOU'RE USING THEM TO SHOOT DOWN $10,000 DRONES. S THAT WORTH IT? >> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT A 85 00:11:00,092 --> 00:11:07,266 PRICE TAG ON SAFETY AND THE DEFENSE OF OUR SAILORS ON BOARD. >> YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME. 86 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:15,374 >> YTHEY JUST HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT ONCE. >> Reporter: A DAY BEFORE OUR VISIT TO THE "USS MASON," ABOUT 87 00:11:15,441 --> 00:11:25,351 100 MILES AWAY, ANOTHER U.S. DESTROYER NEEDED ITS WEAPON OF LAST RESORT. A DEFENSIVE CANNON CALLED A CIWS 88 00:11:25,418 --> 00:11:31,824 TO SHOOT DOWN A HOUTHI MISSILE THAT WAS A MILE OUT AND CLOSING FAST. MOST U.S. WARSHIPS HAVE ONE OF 89 00:11:31,891 --> 00:11:40,232 THESE GUN SYSTEMS, SEEN HERE IN EXERCISES. THE "USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER" HAS TWO. 90 00:11:40,299 --> 00:11:53,712 ON THAT SHIP, WITH ITS 5,000 SAILORS AND MORE THAN 75 AIRCRAFT, STRIKE GROUP COMMANDER REAR ADMIRAL MARC MIGUEZ TOLD 91 00:11:53,779 --> 00:12:01,520 US, THE HOUTHIS HAVE PROVEN TO BE RESOURCEFUL ADVERSARIES. >> THERE ARE THE INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE AND RECONNAISSANCE 92 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:08,427 DRONES THAT ARE THE HOUTHIS ARE LAUNCHING. HOW HAVE YOU SEEN THEM USED? >> WHEN WE FIRST GOT TO THIS 93 00:12:08,494 --> 00:12:16,969 AREA, WE WOULD DETECT THE DRONE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, TEN MINUTES LATER OR FIVE MINUTES LATER, THERE WAS AN 94 00:12:17,036 --> 00:12:21,107 ATTACK. IN OTHER WORDS, A BALLISTIC MISSILE BEING LAUNCHED OR A CRUISE MISSILE BEING LAUNCHED. 95 00:12:21,173 --> 00:12:29,115 AND WE'VE DEDUCED OVER TIME THAT THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY USING THESE DRONES TO PERFECT THEIR TARGETING SOLUTION. 96 00:12:29,181 --> 00:12:37,490 >> Reporter: SINCE THE WAR IN ISRAEL AND GAZA BEGAN, OTHER IRANIAN-BACKED MILITIAS HAVE TARGETED U.S. FORCES IN JORDAN, 97 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:49,201 IRAQ, AND SYRIA, WITH AT LEAST 170 ATTACKS THAT INJURED 183 SERVICE MEMBERS AND KILLED THREE. 98 00:12:49,268 --> 00:12:59,111 ADMIRAL MIGUEZ TOLD US SO FAR THE "USS EISENHOWER" HAS ONLY BEEN FOCUSED ON THE HOUTHIS IN THE SOUTHERN RED SEA. 99 00:12:59,178 --> 00:13:06,886 SINCE JANUARY 11th, ITS PLANES HAVE REGULARLY BEEN STRIKING THEIR LAUNCH STRIKES IN YEMEN, AS HAVE U.S. DESTROYERS. 100 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:14,193 THE U.S. ALSO CONDUCTED A CYBER ATTACK ON AN IRANIAN SPY SHIP THAT WAS GATHERING INTELLIGENCE IN AND AROUND THE RED SEA. 101 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:19,598 BUT THE HOUTHI ATTACKS KEEP COMING. >> COULD THE HOUTHIS DO THIS WITHOUT IRANIAN SUPPORT? 102 00:13:19,665 --> 00:13:25,037 >> NO. FOR A DECADE, THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING THE HOUTHIS, THEY'VE BEEN RESUPPLYING THEM. 103 00:13:25,104 --> 00:13:32,044 THEY'RE RESUPPLYING THEM, AS WE SIT HERE RIGHT NOW AT SEA. WE KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING. THEY'RE ADVISING THEM, AND 104 00:13:32,111 --> 00:13:38,050 THEY'RE PROVIDING TARGETING INFORMATION. THIS IS CRYSTAL CLEAR. >> ARE THERE MEMBERS OF IRAN'S 105 00:13:38,117 --> 00:13:44,123 ELITE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD CORP. THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND IN YEMEN PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE AND TARGETING? 106 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:52,097 >> THE IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARD CORP. IS INSIDE YEMEN, AND THEY ARE SERVING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE HOUTHIS, ADVISING THEM 107 00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:57,102 AND PROVIDING TARGET INFORMATION. >> SO, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DEGRADE THAT CAPABIITY? 108 00:13:57,169 --> 00:14:05,544 >> THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY END UP BEING A POLICY DECISION. OUR ROLE AT THIS POINT IS TO SIMPLY BE READY AND CONTINUE TO 109 00:14:05,611 --> 00:14:12,952 BE AGGRESSIVE IN EXERCISING OUR RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE. >> DO THESE OFFENSIVE U.S. AIR STRIKES AGAINST THESE HOUTHI 110 00:14:13,018 --> 00:14:20,426 TARGETS IN YEMEN RISK ESCALATING THIS CONFLICT? >> I DON'T THINK SO. WE'RE TARGETING THOSE PLATFORMS 111 00:14:20,492 --> 00:14:31,503 THAT ARE TARGETING US. >> IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, RIGHT, SINCE OCTOBER 7th, SURGING OF U.S. FORCES TO 112 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:40,279 THE RED SEA. AND YET THEY KEEP FIRING BACK. THEY KEEP SEEMING TO BE OPPORTUNE 113 00:14:40,346 --> 00:14:45,651 OPPORTUNISTIC IN THEIR RESPONSE. IS THE U.S. NAVY, THE FIFTH FLEET, ARE THE ACTIONS HAVING AN EFFECT? 114 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:54,927 >> IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE DEGRADING THEIR CAPABILITY. AND EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY ATTEMPT TO ATTACK US, WE'RE 115 00:14:54,994 --> 00:15:01,433 ELIMINATING AND DISRUPTING THEM IN WAYS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL AND I DO BELIEVE HAVE AN IMPACT. >> HOW LONG DOES THIS GO ON? 116 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:16,282 >> I HAVE A PRETTY CLEAR END GAME IN MIND, AND THAT IS THE RESTORATION OF THE FREE FLOW OF COMMERCE AND SAFE NAVIGATION OF 117 00:15:16,348 --> 00:15:21,453 >>> THE MONTH AFTER THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2020, DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN ELECTORS REPRESENTING THE 118 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:28,160 CANDIDATE WHO WON THE POPULAR VOTE IN THEIR STATES GATHERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO FORMALLY CAST ELECTORAL VOTES FOR 119 00:15:28,227 --> 00:15:33,866 PRESIDENT. BUT IN SEVEN STATES THAT JOE BIDEN WON, REPUBLICAN ELECTORS GOT TOGETHER ANYWAY AND CAST 120 00:15:33,932 --> 00:15:40,306 PHONY VOTES FOR DONALD TRUMP. THEY'VE BECOME KNOWN AS FAKE ELECTORS, AND ACCORDING TO FEDERAL PROSECUTORS, THEY WERE 121 00:15:40,372 --> 00:15:49,114 PART OF A PLAN TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION, ORCHESTRATED BY PRO-TRUMP ATTORNEYS WITH TRUMP SUPPORT. 122 00:15:49,181 --> 00:15:56,255 STATE CRIMINAL CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST FAKE ELECTORS IN GEORGIA, MICHIGAN, AND NEVADA. WISCONSIN'S FAKE ELECTORS 123 00:15:56,322 --> 00:16:02,828 HAVEN'T BEEN CHARGED. AND SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THEM, ANDREW HITT, AN ATTORNEY AND FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE 124 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:11,236 REPUBLICAN PARTY, AGREED TO SIT DOWN WITH US TO EXPLAIN HOW HE AND WISCONSIN'S OTHER GOP ELECTORS WERE TRICKED BY THE 125 00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:15,674 TRUMP CAMPAIGN. YOU WERE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN WISCONSIN. WERE YOU A BIG TRUMP SUPPORTER? 126 00:16:15,741 --> 00:16:22,414 >> I WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR HIM. I -- YOU KNOW, DAY AND NIGHT. >> LET'S PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 127 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:30,889 ONE MORE TIME! >> OFTEN TIMES PHONE CALLS COULD START BY 6:00 IN THE MORNING AND WOULDN'T END UNTIL 10:30 AT 128 00:16:30,956 --> 00:16:34,860 NIGHT. I DID EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY COULD. >> THE WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN 129 00:16:34,927 --> 00:16:43,168 PARTY CHAIRMAN, ANDREW HITT -- >> ANDREW HITT WAS OFTEN SINGLED OUT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AT RALLIES IN WISCONSIN. 130 00:16:43,235 --> 00:16:50,309 >> ANDREW HITT, ANDREW HITT. HOW WE DOING, ANDREW? WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS STATE, GOING TO WIN IT. 131 00:16:50,376 --> 00:16:55,781 >> Reporter: BUT TRUMP DIDN'T WIN WISCONSIN. HE LOST TO JOE BIDEN. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN APPEALED, 132 00:16:55,848 --> 00:17:02,521 CHALLENGING MORE THAN 200,000 ABSENTEE BALLOTS ON TECHNICAL GROUNDS IN TWO DEMOCRATIC COUNTIES. 133 00:17:02,588 --> 00:17:07,793 >> IF YOU COUNT THE LAWFUL VOTES, TRUMP WON WISCONSIN BY A GOOD MARGIN. >> THAT WAS FALSE. 134 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:15,401 WHAT HE SAID WAS FALSE. >> THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WANTED THE VOTES AND DANE COUNTY, MILWAUKEE COUNTY TOSSED. 135 00:17:15,467 --> 00:17:21,173 DO YOU SUPPORT THAT IDEA? >> IT WASN'T SOMETHING I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH. >> DANE COUNTY AND MILWAUKEE 136 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:28,947 COUNTY IN WISCONSIN ARE THE MOST LIBERAL COUNTIES, THE MAJORITY OF THE BLACK POPULATION LIVES IN THOSE COUNTIES. 137 00:17:29,014 --> 00:17:33,552 >> CORRECT. >> PERSONALLY YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE ABSENTEE BALLOTS SHOULD BE THROWN OUT? 138 00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:38,590 >> I VOTED THAT WAY. I VOTED THAT WAY. >> YOU DIDN'T THINK YOUR OWN VOTE SHOULD BE THROWN OUT? 139 00:17:38,657 --> 00:17:46,131 >> NO. >> ON NOVEMBER 3rd, TONY EVERS CERTIFIED JOE BIDEN'S VICTORY, AUTHORIZING THE STATE'S 140 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:53,705 DEMOCRATIC ELECTORS TO GATHER AT THE STATE CAPITOL ON DECEMBER 14th TO CAST THEIR VOTES FOR BIDEN. 141 00:17:53,772 --> 00:18:00,078 DAYS LATER, ANDREW HITT SAYS HE RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE. >> WHAT WAS THE REACHOUT TO YOU? 142 00:18:00,145 --> 00:18:07,553 >> CAN WE GET A LIST OF WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN ELECTORS? >> THAT MADE YOU SUSPICIOUS? I WAS ALREADY CONCERNED THAT 143 00:18:07,619 --> 00:18:14,426 THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO SAY THAT THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORS WERE NOT PROPER IN WISCONSIN BECAUSE OF FRAUD. 144 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:22,401 >> YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE. >> NO, I WAS VERY INVOLVED, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE ELECTION. >> HITT WAS ONE OF TEN 145 00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:27,940 REPUBLICANS NOMINATED TO BE AN ELECTOR IF TRUMP WON IN WISCONSIN. ON DECEMBER 4th, HE SAYS HE WAS 146 00:18:28,006 --> 00:18:38,884 ADVISED BY THE STATE GOP'S OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNCSEL TO GATHE THE OTHER REPUBLICAN ELECTORS ON DECEMBER 14th AT THE CAPITAL, 147 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:46,525 AND AS A CONTINGENCY -- IN CASE THE COURT OVERTURNED THE ELECTION IN WISCONSIN. >> IN CASE THE LEGAL ARGUMENT 148 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:52,564 THAT THE TRUMP TEAM IS MAKING ACTUALLY WIN IN COURT. >> RIGHT. AND I REMEMBER ASKING, HOW CAN 149 00:18:52,631 --> 00:19:01,473 THIS BE THAT A COURT OVERTURNS THE ELECTION AND JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET AND FILL OUT THIS PAPERWORK ON THE 14th THAT TRUMP 150 00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:12,084 WOULD FORFEIT WISCONSIN? AND THE LEGAL ANALYSIS BACK WAS THE STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR. THE ELECTORS HAVE TO MEET AT 151 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:19,157 NOON AT THE CAPITOL IN WISCONSIN ON DECEMBER 14th. >> THAT MORNING, THE STATE SUPREME COURT IN A 4-3 RULING 152 00:19:19,224 --> 00:19:24,863 REJECTED THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN'S ATTEMPT TO THROW OUT MORE THAN 200,000 VOTES. BUT ANDREW HITT SAYS HE AND THE 153 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:31,470 OTHER REPUBLICAN ELECTORS MET ANYWAY TO CAST FAKE VOTES BECAUSE HE'D BEEN TOLD THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WOULD APPEAL TO THE 154 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:39,678 U.S. SUPREME COURT. KENNETH CHESEBRO, A PRO TRUMP ATTORNEY, WHO WAS AN ALLEGED ARCHITECT OF THE FAKE ELECTORS 155 00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:46,652 PLAN, SHOWED UP TO WATCH. >> WE GOT SPECIFIC ADVICE FROM OUR LAWYERS THAT THESE DOCUMENTS WERE MEANINGLESS UNLESS A COURT 156 00:19:46,718 --> 00:19:52,291 SAID THEY HAD MEANING. >> YOU WERE DECIDING TO SIGN THIS DOCUMENT AS AN ELECTOR AND GETTING THE OTHER ELECTORS TO 157 00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:57,729 SIGN THIS DOCUMENT BASED ON A COURT CHALLENGE THAT YOU YOURSELF DON'T BELIEVE HAS LEGITIMACY. 158 00:19:57,796 --> 00:20:02,568 >> I WOULDN'T SAY, IT DOESN'T HAVE LEGITIMACY. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN NOT PERSONALLY AGREEING WITH IT. 159 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:09,141 >> YOU PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT LEGITIMATE VOTES BY WISCONSIN RESIDENTS SHOULD BE TOSSED OUT, AND YET YOU ARE 160 00:20:09,207 --> 00:20:19,351 SIGNING A DOCUMENT IN SUPPORT OF A LAWSUIT, WHICH IS ALLEGING JUST THAT. >> AND IF I DIDN'T DO THAT AND 161 00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:28,026 THE COURT DID THROW OUT THOSE VOTES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLELY MY FAULT THAT TRUMP WOULDN'T HAVE WON WISCONSIN. 162 00:20:28,093 --> 00:20:33,799 >> BEAUTIFUL KIDS, ANDREW. GOOD, GOOD. I'M GOING TO BLAME YOU, ANDREW, IF THEY DON'T DO IT. 163 00:20:33,865 --> 00:20:42,674 >> CAN YOU IMAGINE THE REPERCUSSIONS ON MYSELF, MY FAMILY, IF IT WAS ME, ANDREW HITT, WHO PREVENTED DONALD TRUMP 164 00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:46,745 FROM WINNING WISCONSIN? >> YOU'RE SAYING YOU WERE SCARED? >> ABSOLUTELY. 165 00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:58,190 >> SCARED OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN YOUR STATE? >> IT WAS NOT A SAFE TIME. IF MY LAWYER IS RIGHT AND THE 166 00:20:58,256 --> 00:21:06,264 WHOLE REASON TRUMP LOSES WISCONSIN WAS BECAUSE OF ME, I WOULD BE SCARED TO DEATH. >> SIGNING LEGAL DOCUMENTS OF 167 00:21:06,331 --> 00:21:13,805 SUCH CONSEQUENCE THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE UNDERLYING REASON FOR THE DOCUMENTS, IT'S -- I MEAN, IT'S 168 00:21:13,872 --> 00:21:18,243 NOT EXACTLY A PROFILE IN COURAGE. >> NO. >> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT 169 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:25,250 NOW? >> I MEAN, TERRIBLE. IF I KNEW WHAT I KNEW NOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT. 170 00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:35,060 IT WAS KEPT FROM US THAT THERE WAS THIS ALTERNATE SCHEME, ALTERNATE MOTIVE. >> Reporter: THAT ALLEGED 171 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:39,231 ALTERNATE SCHEME IS A PROMINENT PART OF SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH'S INDICTMENT OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 172 00:21:39,297 --> 00:21:45,370 >> CHARGES DONALD J. TRUMP WITH CONSPIRING TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES. >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO SMITH, 173 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:52,944 WHAT BEGAN AS A LEGAL STRATEGY IN WISCONSIN EVOLVED INTO A CORRUPT PLAN, INVOLVING SIX OTHER STATES AS WELL. 174 00:21:53,011 --> 00:22:01,453 >> DONALD J. TRUMP OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, NUMBER OF VOTES, 11. >> Reporter: ARIZONA, GEORGIA, NEVADA, NEW MEXICO, 175 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:08,226 PENNSYLVANIA, AND MICHIGAN. >> HE SAYS WE CAN'T ENTER. >> Reporter: WHERE SOME OF THE FAKE ELECTORS COULDN'T CONVINCE 176 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:12,030 POLICE TO LET THEM INTO THE CAPITOL. >> WE'RE ELECTORS. >> WE'RE ELECTORS. 177 00:22:12,097 --> 00:22:18,704 >> THE ELECTORS ARE ALREADY HERE. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CHECKED IN. >> Reporter: JACK SMITH CITES 178 00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:30,716 THIS MEMO WRITTEN BY KEN CHESEBRO, DETAILING WAYS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN CAN PREVENT BIDEN FROM AMASSING 270 ELECTORAL 179 00:22:30,782 --> 00:22:40,292 VOTES ON JANUARY 6th. SUPPLANT LEGITIMATE ELECTORS WITH TRUMP'S FAKE ELECTORS AND CERTIFY HIM AS PRESIDENT. 180 00:22:40,358 --> 00:22:48,166 BY JANUARY 4th, ACCORDING TO INTERNAL EMAILS, SOME IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WERE PANICKING. THEY BELIEVED THE FAKE ELECTORS' 181 00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:55,841 DOCUMENTS FROM MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN HASN'T ARRIVED IN VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE'S SENATE OFFICE. 182 00:22:55,907 --> 00:23:02,013 YOUR COLLEAGUE TEXTED YOU, FREAKING TRUMP IDIOTS. YOU WROTE, THIS IS JUST NUTS. WHAT WAS NUTS ABOUT IT? 183 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,888 >> I MEAN, WE HAD THE CERTIFICATION COMING ON THE 6th. HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE THE PAPERWORK? 184 00:23:09,955 --> 00:23:17,329 >> I MEAN, YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU ONLY WENT ALONG WITH THIS PLAN TO PRESERVE TRUMP'S CANDIDACY IN THE EVENT OF A COURT RULING. 185 00:23:17,395 --> 00:23:24,402 JANUARY 4th, JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE JANUARY 6th, DID YOU REALLY THINK THAT WAS STILL POSSIBLE? 186 00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:31,109 >> WELL, REMEMBER, THE WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT HAD BEEN APPEALED. SO, JANUARY 4th, IT SEEMED LIKE, YEAH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT A MUCH 187 00:23:31,176 --> 00:23:39,651 MORE CONSERVATIVE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT COULD OVERTURN A 4-3 DECISION. >> Reporter: TO GET THE 188 00:23:39,718 --> 00:23:47,859 PAPERWORK TO WASHINGTON, THEY PICKED ALICIA GUENTHER, THEN A 23-YEAR-OLD LAW SCHOOL STUDENT WORKING PART TIME FOR WISCONSIN 189 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:53,598 REPUBLICAN PARTY? >> I WAS ON BREAK FROM LAW SCHOOL AND WANTED TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY TO PAY FOR BOOKS AND 190 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:59,271 WORKED FOR THE PARTY FOR MY MONTH OFF OF SCHOOL. SO, ON JANUARY 4th, I GOT A CALL FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF 191 00:23:59,337 --> 00:24:04,976 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF WISCONSIN, SINCE I WAS HELPING OUT AT THE TIME. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU 192 00:24:05,043 --> 00:24:08,013 GOT THE TEXT? >> AT FIRST I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. AND THEN HE FOLLOWED UP AND 193 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:16,588 ASKED THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WANTED THESE PAPERS FLOWN OUT TO D.C. BECAUSE THEY HAD GOTTEN LOST IN THE MAIL. 194 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:22,093 >> Reporter: GUENTHER SAYS SHE PICKED UP THE PAPERS HERE AT THE HEADQUARTERS AND FLEW TO WASHINGTON. 195 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:31,069 SHE SHOWED US HER EMAIL CHAIN WITH KEN CHESEBRO AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISER. >> EXPLAINING I SHOUD ONLY GIVE 196 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:37,742 THE DOCUMENTS TO KEN CHESEBRO. THEY ASKED ME TO MEET UP WITH HIM OUTSIDE THE TRUMP HOTEL. >> I MEAN, IT SOUNDS VERY 197 00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:42,647 SECRETIVE. >> I THOUGHT THAT EMAIL WAS PRETTY ODD AND DRAMATIC. >> AND YOU KNEW WHAT WAS 198 00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:47,419 HAPPENING ON JANUARY 6th, IN TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATION OF THE VOTE? >> I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS VERY 199 00:24:47,485 --> 00:24:53,725 TUNED INTO THAT TRULY BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT A COURT OF LAW WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS TO 200 00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:58,930 BE USED. >> DID YOU KNOW WHAT CHESEBRO LOOKED LIKE? >> HE ACTUALLY SENT ME A SELFIE 201 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:02,901 SO I WOULD KNOW -- >> HE SENT YOU A SELFIE SO YOU WOULD KNOW IT WAS HIM? >> YEAH. 202 00:25:02,968 --> 00:25:08,106 >> CAN I SEE IT? >> YEAH. >> SHE STILL HAS THE PHOTO SAVED ON HER PHONE. 203 00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:13,979 THAT'S KEN CHESEBRO. >> MM-HMM. >> WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU? >> HE TOOK A DRAMATIC STEP BACK 204 00:25:14,045 --> 00:25:20,986 AND LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST MADE HISTORY. >> Reporter: KEN CHESEBRO TOLD INVESTIGATORS HE DELIVERED THE 205 00:25:21,052 --> 00:25:28,960 DOCUMENTS TO CAPITOL HILL. THE NEXT DAY, ON JANUARY 6th, HE COULD BE SEEN IN VIDEOS OUTSIDE THE CAPITOL, NEAR CONSPIRACY 206 00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:35,333 THEORIST, ALEX JONES. >> I WANT TO LOOK EVEN MORE DEEPLY AT THE FAKE ELECTORS SCHEME. 207 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:41,506 >> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE JANUARY 6th SELECT COMMITTEE, AN AID TO RON JOHNSON TRIED TO ARRANGE TO GET THE FAKE ELECTOR 208 00:25:41,573 --> 00:25:47,345 SLATES TO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> AND I HOPE MIKE IS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I HOPE SO. 209 00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:51,583 I HOPE SO. BECAUSE IF MIKE PENCE DOES THE RIGHT THING, WE WIN THE ELECTION. 210 00:25:51,650 --> 00:26:00,859 >> BUT PENCE'S AIDE REFUSED, TEXTING, DO NOT GIVE THAT TO HIM, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE. WHEN THE SENATE CHAMBER HAD TO 211 00:26:00,926 --> 00:26:09,301 BE EVACUATED, THE REAL ELECTORAL VOTES IN THESE BOXES WERE TAKEN TO SAFETY. AND WHEN CONGRESS RESUMED, THEY 212 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:14,806 WERE RETURNED INTO THE HOUSE CHAMBER. >> PURSUANT TO SENATE CONCURRENT -- 213 00:26:14,873 --> 00:26:24,716 >> Reporter: VICE PRESIDENT PENCE ANNOUNCED THE ELECTION RESULTS AND CLOSED THE SESSION AT 3:44 A.M., JANUARY 7th. 214 00:26:24,783 --> 00:26:31,122 THE SUPREME COURT ULTIMATELY DECLINED TO HEAR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN'S LAWSUIT IN WISCONSIN. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 215 00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:35,860 DONALD TRUMP CONTINUING TO CLAIM THAT THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN? >> I MEAN, IT WASN'T STOLEN. 216 00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:43,902 IT WASN'T STOLEN IN WISCONSI. >> Reporter: THIS PAST DECEMBER, ANDREW HITT AND WISCONSIN'S OTHER REPUBLICAN ELECTORS 217 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:50,241 SETTLED A CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM BY SOME OF THE STATE'S DEMOCRATIC ELECTORS. THEY ADMITTED THEY SIGNED A 218 00:26:50,308 --> 00:26:58,149 DOCUMENT THAT WAS USED AS PART OF AN ATTEMPT TO IMPROPERLY OVERTURN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULTS. 219 00:26:58,216 --> 00:27:04,689 HITT RESIGNED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN PARTY IN AUGUST 2021. HE'S COOPERATED WITH THE JANUARY 220 00:27:04,756 --> 00:27:12,097 6th COMMITTEE -- >> USING OUR ELECTORS IN WAYS THAT WE WEREN'T TOLD ABOUT. AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED. 221 00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:17,435 >> Reporter: -- AND HE SAYS HE'S ALSO COOPERATED WITH FEDERAL PROSECUTORS. HE MAINTAINS HE AND THE OTHER 222 00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:27,012 FAKE ELECTORS IN WISCONSIN WERE TRICKED. >> WHENEVER ANYBODY SEES OUR TEXT MESSAGES, OUR EMAILS, OUR 223 00:27:27,078 --> 00:27:35,854 DOCUMENTS, THEY UNDERSTAND, THEY KNOW, THEIR CONCLUSION IS WE WERE TRICKED. THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE SAW 224 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,625 IT, JACK SMITH SPECIFICALLY IN HIS INDICTMENT REFERS TO SOME OF THE ELECTORS WERE TRICKED. THAT WAS US. 225 00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:46,464 >> THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS KNOWN TO WATCH "60 MINUTES." IF HE'S WATCHING, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY TO HIM? 226 00:27:46,531 --> 00:27:58,510 >> I WOULD SAY THAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE NEED A LEADER WHO IS -- TACKLES SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND SERIOUS 227 00:27:58,576 --> 00:28:08,553 ISSUES THAT THIS COUNTRY FACES. AND WE NEED FAITH IN OUR INSTITUTIONS AGAIN. AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE 228 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:21,800 UNITED STATES NEEDS TO DO THAT. >> IN YOUR OPINION, THAT'S NOT HIM? >> IT IS NOT HIM, CORRECT. 229 00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:26,237 >>>. >> REAL ELECTORS IN MICHIGAN ON THEIR FAKE COUNTERPARTS. >> THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO 230 00:28:26,304 --> 00:28:48,393 SNEAK IN THE NIGHT BEFORE AND >>> 2023 WAS THE YEAR THE WORLD LEARNED TO PRONOUNCE CILLIAN, THE ANCIENT IRISH NAME SEEMED TO 231 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:57,035 BE ON EVERYONE'S LIST, AS THE FILM "OPPENHEIMER" BECAME A BLOCKBUSTER, WITH 13 OSCAR NOMINATIONS, INCLUDING BEST 232 00:28:57,102 --> 00:29:06,644 ACTOR FOR CILLIAN MURPHY. MURPHY HAS WORKED NONSTOP FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS, BUT IT WAS THE EPIC DRAW 233 00:29:06,711 --> 00:29:14,185 EPIC DRAMA OF THE ATOMIC BOMB THAT IGNITED A STAR. IN THIS MOMENT, WITH THE OSCARS THREE WEEKS AWAY, MURPHY IS MORE 234 00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:21,960 FAMOUS THAN WELL KNOWN. SO, WE SET OUT TO LEARN MORE. WE WERE WARNED THE 47-YEAR-OLD IRISHMAN IS RESERVED AND 235 00:29:22,026 --> 00:29:38,143 WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT HIMSELF. BUT WE DISCOVERED FINDING CILLIAN MURPHY DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LOOK. 236 00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:48,786 [ SINGING IN GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> IRELAND'S PENINSULA WAS NAMED FOR A GODDESS BEFORE SUCH THINGS WERE WRITTEN. 237 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:56,895 AND FOR 6,000 YEARS, STORIES HAVE PASSED BY EAR. 238 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:11,276 [ SINGING IN GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> Reporter: SO, IF VERSE INHABITS EVERY IRISH SOUL, THEN IN A COUNTRY PUB, CILLIAN MURPHY 239 00:30:11,342 --> 00:30:17,482 IS AMONG PEERS, AS HE WOULD HAVE IT. JUST A MAN WITH A PINT TO LIFT AND NO FAME TO BEAR. 240 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:24,422 >> WHAT IS THE MEANING OF IRELAND TO YOU? >> I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION SATISFACTORILY. 241 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:34,832 IT'S DEFINED WHO I AM AS A PERSON AND MY VALUES. IT'S JUST HOME. >> HOME INCLUDES HIS WIFE OF 20 242 00:30:34,899 --> 00:30:43,508 YEARS, TWO TEENAGE SONS, AND SCOUT, A LAB NAMED FOR THE CHARACTER IN "TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD." 243 00:30:43,575 --> 00:30:51,416 THAT FIGURES. MURPHY HAS ALWAYS LET STORIES LEAD HIS PATH. >> YOU FIND SO MUCH EMPATHY IN 244 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:58,690 NOVELS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S POINT OF VIEW. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG 245 00:30:58,756 --> 00:31:04,629 READER. PWHEN A MOVIE CAN CONNECT WITH SOMEONE AND THEY FEEL SEEN OR FEEL HEARD OR A NOVEL CAN CHANGE 246 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:11,603 SOMEBODY'S LIFE OR A PIECE OF MUSIC, AN ALBUM CAN CHANGE SOMEONE'S LIFE -- AND I'VE HAD ALL THAT HAPPEN TO ME. 247 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:18,343 AND THAT'S THE POWER OF GOOD ART, I THINK. >> THERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE MUSIC IN THE PUB TO 248 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:21,913 "OPPENHEIMER." >> I THINK THEY'RE FROM THE SAME SOURCE. I MEAN, I REALLY DO. 249 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:27,218 I DON'T SEE -- I SEE IT'S ALL ON A CONTINUUM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST A FORM OF EXPRESSION. 250 00:31:27,285 --> 00:31:37,061 >> Reporter: EXPRESSION IN THE EYES OF J. ROBERT OPPENHEIMER, THE PHYSICIST WHO CREATED THE ATOM BOMB BUT NEVER CONTROLLED 251 00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:42,333 IT. >> IF YOU DO IT TOO HIGH IN THE AIR, THE BLAST WON'T BE AS POWERFUL. 252 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,872 >> WITH RESPECT, DR. OPPENHEIMER, WE'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE. >> I REMEMBER READING AT THE 253 00:31:47,939 --> 00:31:55,613 BEGINNING ABOUT HIM, THAT HE WAS MORE RIDDLED AND ANSWER. I THOUGHT, OKAY, WOW. THAT'S INTERESTING. 254 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:05,123 >> I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR NOTES. >> THE RIDDLE WAS IN THIS SCRIPT BY WRITER/DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER NOLAN, PRINTED IN RED SO IT 255 00:32:05,189 --> 00:32:10,762 COULDN'T BE PHOTOCOPIED. >> I DID GENUINELY THINK IT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST SCREENPLAYS I'VE EVER READ. 256 00:32:10,828 --> 00:32:16,768 >> AND YOU TOLD HIM, I'LL DO IT. >> I MEAN, I SAID, I'LL DO IT, BEFORE I READ IT. >> THAT'S QUITE A RISK. 257 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:22,607 WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? >> IT'S ALWAYS PAID OFF FOR ME, EVERY FILM THAT I'VE WORKED WITH HIM ON. 258 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:32,083 >> I'M NOT GOING BACK. I'M NOT GOING BACK. >> Reporter: THERE HAVE BEEN SIX CHRIS NOLAN FILMS FOR MURPHY. 259 00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:37,689 "DUNKIRK," "INCEPTION," AND THREE "BATMAN" TITLES. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MY MASK? 260 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:45,029 >> YOU TOLD ME THAT GETTING A FILM MADE AND GETTING IT SEEN IS A MIRACLE. >> IT IS. 261 00:32:45,096 --> 00:32:52,103 AND IF IT'S ANY WAY GOOD, THAT'S A MIRACLE. AND THEN IF IT CONNECTS WITH AUDIENCES, THAT'S A MIRACLE. 262 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:59,877 SO, IT'S A MIRACLE UPON MIRACLE UPON MIRACLE TO HAVE A FILM LIKE "OPPENHEIMER." IT REALLY IS. 263 00:32:59,944 --> 00:33:06,851 >> HIS "OPPENHEIMER" WAS NOT SO MUCH A MIRACLE AS HARD WORK. HE LOST 28 POUNDS TO GET THE SILHOUETTE. 264 00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:15,360 THEN HE ROSE TO THE CHARACTER STEP BY STEP OVER SIX MONTHS, READING, LISTENING TO OPPENHEIMER'S LECTURES, AND 265 00:33:15,426 --> 00:33:24,569 COVERING MILES ON THE BEACH, PERFORMING FOR SCOUT. >> I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT, I SAID TO CHRIS, CHRIS, THERE 266 00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:31,142 APPEARS TO BE -- HE APPEARS TO SPEECH DUTCH HERE, AND I THINK HE'S GIVING A LECTURE IN DUTCH. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT 267 00:33:31,209 --> 00:33:36,180 THAT? AND CHRIS SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? >> [ SPEAKING IN GLOBAL 268 00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:44,389 LANGUAGE ] >> WAIT, WHAT'S HE SAYING? >> MURPHY SAYS HE PUT ALL HE LEARNED IN THE BACK OF HIS MIND 269 00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:51,562 AND ACTED ON INSTINCT. >> I THINK INSTINCT IS YOUR MOST POWERFUL TOOL THAT YOU HAVE AS AN ACTOR. 270 00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:58,436 NOTHING MUST BE PREDETERMINED, SO THEREFORE YOU MUST'NT HAVE A PLAN OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY STUFF. 271 00:33:58,503 --> 00:34:05,410 I LOVE THAT. IT'S LIKE BEING BUFFETED BY THE WIND AND BEING BUFFETED BY EMOTION. 272 00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:14,819 >> YOU DON'T GET TO CORRECT -- >> EMILY BLUNT PLAYS OPPENHEIMER'S TORMENTED WIFE. >> YOU PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER. 273 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:19,524 >> HE'S VERY VISCERAL TO BE IN A SCENE WITH. IT'S LIKE YOU -- HE TRANSPORTS YOU. 274 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:28,166 HE'LL KIDNAP YOU IN A SCENE. >> MY FAVORITE ACTING MOMENT OF HIS IN "OPPENHEIMER" IS THE SCENE AFTER THE BOMB HAS BEEN 275 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:40,945 DROPPED AND HE'S ADDRESSING ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF LOS ALAMOS. >> THE WORLD WILL REMEMBER THIS DAY. 276 00:34:41,012 --> 00:34:47,051 >> HE SOMEHOW WELDS TOGETHER THE CONCEPT OF BEING PROUD OF WHAT THEY DID -- >> YES. 277 00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:50,888 >> -- AND REGRETTING IT VERY DEEPLY. >> YES, YES. >> ALL AT THE SAME TIME. 278 00:34:50,955 --> 00:35:00,798 >> I KNOW. >> IT'S TOO SOON TO -- IT'S TOO SOON TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE BOMBING ARE. 279 00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:08,506 BUT I'LL BET THE JAPANESE DIDN'T LIKE IT. >> NO ONE MOMENT IS ABOUT ONE THING. 280 00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:16,380 AND IF YOU'RE AS AGILE AS SOMEONE LIKE CILLIAN AND AS VULNERABLE AND AS CLEVER, YOU CAN PLAY IT ALL. 281 00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:26,824 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE CAN DO WHAT HE DOES. >> CILLIAN MURPHY DISCOVERED AGILITY IN HIS HOMETOWN, CORK. 282 00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:36,868 HIS MOTHER WAS A TEACHER. HIS FATHER, A SCHOOL INSPECTOR. IN HIGH SCHOOL, MURPHY AND HIS BROTHER HAD A BAND. 283 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:41,405 ♪ PERFORMING LED TO ACTING CLASS AND HIS FIRST PLAY. >> THIS IS MORE LIKE THE SIZE OF 284 00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:49,814 A STORAGE ROOM THAN A THEATER. >> YEAH. BUT THAT'S ALL WE WERE USED TO. >> Reporter: HIS FIRST THEATER, 285 00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:55,253 19 1996, AGE 20. THE PLAY WAS "DISCO PIGS," WHICH GREW TO BIGGER THEATERS AND 286 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:59,690 BECAME A MOVIE. >> WHY DID YOU THINK YOU COULD BE AN ACTOR? >> I DIDN'T. 287 00:35:59,757 --> 00:36:07,098 I WAS VERY COMFORTABLE ON STAGE IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE FROM WHEN I WAS LITTLE. I NEVER HAD ANY NERVES DOING 288 00:36:07,164 --> 00:36:13,671 THAT. IT FELT NATURAL, YOU KNOW? AND THRILLING. >> IN THIS THEATER, WHAT DID YOU 289 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:21,512 LEARN ABOUT ACTING? >> THERE'S A FIRE ESCAPE DOOR RIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S KIND OF AN ALLEYWAY THERE. 290 00:36:21,579 --> 00:36:29,987 YOU GET A LOT OF DRUNK GUYS OUT OF THEIR MIND BASHING UP AGAINST THE FIRE ESCAPE DOOR. AND IT USED TO, KIND OF, 291 00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:36,894 ENERGIZE US. I REMEMBER LEARNING ABOUT, LIKE, TAKING WHATEVER YOU HAVE, SORT OF, RESPONDING TO WHATEVER THE 292 00:36:36,961 --> 00:36:40,965 ENERGY IS IN THE ROOM AND USING IT. >> THAT'S REALLY GOOD TRAINING. >> YEAH. 293 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:47,605 >> MAINTAINING YOUR CHARACTER WITH A DRUNK GUY YELLING THROUGH THE FIRE ESCAPE DOOR. >> YEAH. 294 00:36:47,672 --> 00:36:54,211 YEAH. AND I THINK THEATER IS SUCH A -- AN ABSURD UNDERTAKING WHEN YOU THINK OF IT. 295 00:36:54,278 --> 00:36:57,615 AT ANY POINT, IT COULD COLLAPSE AND GO WRONG. >> IT'S DANGEROUS. >> YEAH. 296 00:36:57,682 --> 00:37:04,422 I LOVE THAT ASPECT OF IT, YEAH. >> THAT LOVE LED HIM TO DROP LAW SCHOOL. AND SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN 297 00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:17,068 A DOZEN PLAYS AND 40 MOVIES. >> I LOVE IT WHEN IT BECOMES AN IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE. I LOVE GETTING LOST IN IT. 298 00:37:17,134 --> 00:37:24,909 IN THE EARLY DAYS, WITH THEATER, IT FELT KIND OF EXTRAORDINARY. JUST THE POWER OF WILL AND A COUPLE OF LIGHTS AND A GOOD 299 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:29,981 SCRIPT, WE WERE CREATING THIS WORLD. SO, THAT'S, KIND OF, ADDICTIVE WHEN IT WORKS WELL. 300 00:37:30,047 --> 00:37:43,127 >> Reporter: IT WORKED WELL IN 2013, IN A BREAKOUT ROLE AS A LEADING MAN. IN THE SERIES PIQ"PEAK KI 301 00:37:43,194 --> 00:37:56,874 BLINDERS," MURPHY PLAYS THOMAS SHELBY WHO SURVIVES WORLD WAR I TO LEAD A GROUP OF GANGSTERS. >> THEY'RE ALL DAMAGED, BROKEN 302 00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:02,313 MEN. BUT SOMETHING GOT KNOCKED IN HIM AND HE CAME BACK WITH THIS INCREDIBLE DRIVE AND AMBITION. 303 00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:14,692 I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH. SO, NOW I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT. >> IN TOMMY SHELBY, YOU CREATED 304 00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:25,903 A SYMPATHETIC, RELATABLE MONSTER. >> KILL, KILL. >> THE ONLY WORDS MY PEOPLE 305 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:31,042 LISTEN. >> I LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED. AND WHEN I READ SOMETHING, I WANT TO GO, I DON'T REALLY KNOW 306 00:38:31,108 --> 00:38:38,049 HOW I CAN DO THAT. >> IN TEN YEARS OF "PEAKY BLINDERS," MURPHY CAME INTO HIS OWN. 307 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:47,925 >> I HEARD VERY EARLY ON IN MY CAREER A DIRECTOR -- IT WAS ONE OF THE SIDNEYS. IT COULD HAVE BEEN SIDNEY LUMET, 308 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:54,799 COULD HAVE BEEN SYDNEY POLLACK. BUT ONE OF THEM SAID, IT TAKES 30 YEARS TO MAKE AN ACTOR. IT'S NOT TECHNIQUE. 309 00:38:54,865 --> 00:39:01,972 IT'S MATURING AS A HUMAN BEING AND TRYING TO GRAPPLE WITH LIFE AND FIGURE IT OUT AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 310 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:09,714 SO, BY THE TIME YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT BANKED HOPEFULLY. AND EVENTUALLY THEN I THINK 311 00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:22,693 YOU'LL GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU MIGHT BE AN OKAY ACTOR. >> MATURING IS THE THEME OF MURPHY'S NEXT FILM BASED ON THE 312 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,933 NOVEL, "SMALL THINGS LIKE THESE." HE PLAYS BILL FURLONG, TORMENTED BY INJUSTICE. 313 00:39:28,999 --> 00:39:51,155 HIS WIFE FEARS HIS EMPATHY WILL UPEND THEIR LIVES. >> DO YOU EVER QUESTION US? >> IF YOU WANT TO GET ON WITH 314 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:58,329 THIS LIFE, THERE ARE THINGS YOU HAVE TO IGNORE. >> Reporter: THAT'S EILEEN WALSH. 315 00:39:58,395 --> 00:40:06,670 NO ACTOR HAS KNOWN MURPHY LONGER. SHE WAS HIS FIRST PARTNER IN "DISCO PIGS" 28 YEARS AGO. 316 00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:18,249 >> IS HIS WORK ETHIC ROOTED IN FEAR OR JOY? >> OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK IT CAN ONLY BE JOY. 317 00:40:18,315 --> 00:40:27,758 BUT IT SOMETIMES TAKES A LOT OF PAIN TO GET TO THAT JOY. THE DEEPER WE GO WITH ACTING, THE COST IS GREATER FOR US. 318 00:40:27,825 --> 00:40:35,699 AND PHYSICALLY I KNOW "OPPENHEIMER," YOU KNOW, HAS COST HIM FOR THE WEIGHT LOSS HE INSISTED. 319 00:40:35,766 --> 00:40:41,405 YOU KNOW, IT WAS HIS CHOICE TO DO. BUT THEN IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO CREATE THAT AMAZING 320 00:40:41,472 --> 00:40:54,718 SILHOUETTE. BUT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, OUR WARMUPS FOR "DISCO PIGS" INVOLVED US PUNCHING EACH OTHER 321 00:40:54,785 --> 00:41:02,126 QUITE HARD. AND, LIKE, GOING FOR IT AND THEN BURSTING OUT INTO IT, THIS HUGE BALL OF VELOCITY COMING INTO IT 322 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:12,069 WAS THE BEGINNING OF AN "OPPENHEIMER," WAS THE WHOLE KIND OF ATOM OF US. ♪ 323 00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:23,214 >> Reporter: NOW, AFTER THREE DECADES OF WORK, CILLIAN MURPHY IS CAST IN THE MOST FAMILIAR IRISH LEGEND OF ALL. 324 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:32,256 MAYBE THERE IS GOLD, A 24 KARAT GOLD-PLATED STATUE AT THE END OF HIS SPECTRUM OF TALENT. >> YOU HAVE SCREWED THIS UP 325 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:37,561 THOUGH, YOU KNOW? >> IN WHAT WAY? >> YOU USED TO BE AN ACTOR AND NOW YOU'RE A MOVIE STAR. 326 00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:47,271 >> OH, OKAY. AM I? >> I THINK YOU COULD BE BOTH. YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD 327 00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:57,748 THAT TERM REALLY, MOVIE STAR. I JUST FELT LIKE I'M AN ACTOR. THAT'S, I THINK, A TERM FOR OTHER PEOPLE RATHER THAN FOR ME. 328 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:12,429 >>> THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, THERE FOR WHAT MATTERS. 329 00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:20,537 >>> ON FRIDAY, RUSSIA ANNOUNCED THE DEATH OF ALEXEI NAVALNY, VLADIMIR PUTIN'S MOST PROMINENT POLITICAL OPPONENT. 330 00:42:20,604 --> 00:42:28,579 THE REPORT SAYS HE COLLAPSED AFTER TAKING A WALK AT HIS ARCTIC PRISON COLONY. WE SPOKE WITH HIM A LITTLE OVER 331 00:42:28,646 --> 00:42:37,655 THREE YEARS AGO IN BERLIN, WHERE HE WAS RECOVERING FROM POISONING FROM A CHEMICAL WEAPON ORDERED, HE TOLD US, BY PRESIDENT PUTIN. 332 00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:49,633 >> I THINK, FOR PUTIN, WHY HE'S USING THIS CHEMICAL WEAPON TO DO BOTH, KILL ME AND, YOU KNOW, TERRIFY OTHERS. 333 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:58,242 IT'S REALLY SCARY AND PUTIN IS ENJOYING IT. >> YOU HAVE SAID YOU THINK THAT MR. PUTIN'S RESPONSIBLE. 334 00:42:58,309 --> 00:43:05,349 >> I DON'T THINK, I'M SURE THAT HE'S RESPONSIBLE. >> NAVALNY RETURNED TO RUSSIA TO FACE TRIAL, IMPRISONMENT, AND 335 00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:08,953 NEAR CERTAIN DEATH. I'M LESLEY STAHL.