1 00:00:12,579 --> 00:00:21,054 >>> LITHUANIA'S CAPITAL IS CLOTHED IN THE COLORS OF UKRAINE, AND PUTIN IS REMINDED AN INTERNATIONAL COURT IS 2 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:30,797 WAITING WITH HIS ARREST WARRANT. SINCE THE 2022 INVASION, LITHUANIA HAS BECOME A REFUGE FOR PUTIN'S FIERCEST CRITICS. 3 00:00:30,864 --> 00:00:35,869 >> YOU WOULD BE IN A RUSSIAN PRISON JUST FOR DOING THIS INTERVIEW. >> OH, FOR SURE. 4 00:00:35,935 --> 00:00:48,982 FOR SURE. >>> IT'S RARE FOR "60 MINUTES" TO FOLLOW A STORY FOR 15 YEARS. BUT TONIGHT YOU'LL BE 5 00:00:49,048 --> 00:00:58,558 REINTRODUCED TO JENNIFER THOMPSON, A RAPE VICTIM, WHO MISTAKENLY IDENTIFIED AN INNOCENT MAN WHO WAS SENT TO 6 00:00:58,625 --> 00:01:05,498 PRISON. >> I'M GOING TO TIE MY STRING. >> Reporter: JENNIFER HAS CREATED SOMETHING CALLED 7 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:13,506 "HEALING JUSTICE," A PROGRAM THAT BRINGS TOGETHER VICTIMS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND INNOCENT MEN. 8 00:01:13,573 --> 00:01:20,079 >> I COULD NEVER CONFESS. >> WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE QUIET. >> YOU ARE A ANGRY BLACK MAN. YOU WILL NEVER KNOW LOVE. 9 00:01:20,146 --> 00:01:27,253 YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A PRISONER. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 10 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:33,426 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. 11 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:36,529 THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." 12 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:55,615 >>> TODAY IS ELECTION DAY IN RUSSIA, BUT THERE'S NO SUSPENSE. 71-YEAR-OLD VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL BE NAMED THE WINNER, AS HE HAS 13 00:01:55,682 --> 00:02:10,763 BEEN OVER THE LAST 24 YEARS. THIS TIME, AS OFTEN, HIS CHALLENGERS DIED. ONE AFTER AN EXPLOSION ON A 14 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:16,903 PLANE, AND ALEXEI NAVALNY, PUTIN'S LEADING RIVAL, WHO DIED LAST MONTH IN AN ARCTIC PRISON CAMP. 15 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:23,643 PUTIN HAS KILLED NEARLY ALL INTERNAL OPPOSITION TO HIS UNPROVOKED WAR IN UKRAINE. AND YET MANY COURAGEOUS RUSSIANS 16 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:30,116 CONTINUE THE STRUGGLE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. WE MET SOME OF THEM IN A CITY YOU MIGHT THINK OF AS THE 17 00:02:30,183 --> 00:02:43,796 CAPITAL OF FREE RUSSIA. >> IT'S 500 MILES WEST OF MOSCOW, THE CITY OF VILNIUS, IN LITHUANIA, WHERE THERE'S NO LOVE 18 00:02:43,863 --> 00:02:49,636 LOST FOR RUSSIA. LITHUANIA IS A DEMOCRACY OF ABOUT 3 MILLION PEOPLE AND A NATO ALLY. 19 00:02:49,702 --> 00:02:59,979 VILNIUS, THE CAPITAL, IS CLOTHED IN THE COLORS OF UKRAINE. THE CITY CHANGED THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY'S ADDRESS TO HEROES OF 20 00:03:00,046 --> 00:03:07,754 UKRAINE STREET, AND PUTIN IS REMINDED THE INTERNATIONAL PORT IN THE HAGUE IS WAITING WITH HIS ARREST WARRANT. 21 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:16,796 SINCE PUTIN'S 2022 INVASION, LITH LITHUANIA HAS WELCOMED MORE THAN 2,500 RUSSIAN EXILES. 22 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:28,041 >> IT IS OUR POLICY TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO ALL FREEDOM FIGHTERS. >> MONTAS ADOMENAS SERVED AS LITHUANIA'S DEPUTY FOREIGN 23 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:35,982 MINISTER FROM 2020 UNTIL LAST AUGUST. >> I HAVEN'T SEEN SO MANY UKRAINIAN FLAGS SINCE I WAS IN 24 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:42,789 KYIV. WHY DO YOUR PEOPLE FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS? >> OUR FREEDOM, OUR 25 00:03:42,855 --> 00:03:52,131 INDEPENDENCE, OUR, SORT OF, SECURITY IS BEING DEFENDED IN THE BATTLEFIELDS IN UKRAINE. UKRAINE DIES SO WE CAN BE SAVED. 26 00:03:52,198 --> 00:04:01,708 >> THERE ARE MANY MORE RUSSIAN DISSONANTS, WHO WOULD LOVE TO COME TO LITHUANIA. CAN YOU ACCEPT ANY MORE? 27 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:10,216 >> OF COURSE WE CAN ACCEPT. WE WILL PROVIDE THEM ACOMEDIES AS NEED, AND WORK FOR THE FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IN RUSSIA. 28 00:04:10,283 --> 00:04:17,557 >> ONE OF THE RUSSIAN EXILES IN LITHUANIA WORKING FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IS A CRUSADING MOM. 29 00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:26,666 TWO YEARS AGO, ANASTASIA SHEVCHENKO FLED PUTIN'S REGIME. >> THIS IS A TERRORIST REGIME. THEY ARE THREATENING OTHER 30 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:34,774 COUNTRIES WITH OIL, GAS, NUCLEAR WEAPON AND GRAIN. THEY'RE THREATENING US WITH OUR CHILDREN, WITH OUR PARENTS, WITH 31 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:46,085 OUR LIVES AND SO ON. >> MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT WAS HER DAUGHTER, ALINA, SEVERELY DISABLED AT WORK, THAT MADE 32 00:04:46,152 --> 00:04:51,724 SHEVCHENKO AN ACTIVIST AGAINST PUTIN. BACK THEN, THE FAMILY WAS IN SOUTHERN RUSSIA, AND ALINA WAS 33 00:04:51,791 --> 00:04:57,563 IN A RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT NURSING HOME. >> ALINA COULD NOT SPEAK, COULD NOT COMMUNICATE. 34 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:06,139 >> NO. SHE WAS, LIKE, ONE WEAK CHILD, LIKE A BABY. SHE WAS 17, BUT EVEN, YOU KNOW, 35 00:05:06,205 --> 00:05:16,115 TO FEEL HER, IT WAS A WHOLE SCIENCE BECAUSE SHE NEEDED BLENDED FOOD. YOU NEED TO HOLD HER IN SPECIAL 36 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:21,587 POSITION. >> SHEVCHENKO CARED FOR ALINA MUCH OF THE TIME BECAUSE THE RUSSIAN NURSING FACILITY WAS 37 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:31,130 SHORT ON STAFF AND SUPPLIES. >> I WAS STRUGGLING TO GET MEDICATION FOR MY DAUGHTER, BEGGING IN THE PHARMACY THAT SHE 38 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:37,336 NEEDED IT. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR HER HEALTH. THEY SAID, NO, WE JUST DON'T 39 00:05:37,403 --> 00:05:48,281 HAVE IT BECAUSE THE MINISTRY FORGOT TO ORDER IT THIS MONTH. AND YOU NEED TO WAIT. I DECIDED, I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP 40 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:52,585 SILENT, YOU KNOW? I'M GOING TO STAND OUT AND TO SPEAK OUT. >> SHE SPOKE OUT THROUGH A 41 00:05:52,652 --> 00:06:00,326 RUSSIAN DEMOCRACY GROUP CALLED "OPEN RUSSIA." IT WAS TOLERATED TEN YEARS AGO, AND SHEVCHENKO ORGANIZED 42 00:06:00,393 --> 00:06:08,334 PROTESTS IN HER HOMETOWN. BUT IN 2019, THE KREMLIN CRACKED DOWN. SHEVCHENKO WAS ARRESTED, AND HER 43 00:06:08,401 --> 00:06:19,579 LAWYER WARNED HER SHE WOULD BE SHOCKED BY WHAT THE POLICE HAD ALREADY DONE. >> HE SHOWED ME THE SCREEN SHOTS 44 00:06:19,645 --> 00:06:27,220 OF ME IN MY BED. AND I REALIZED THAT THEY HAD INSTALLED THE VIDEO CAMERA INTO THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT ABOVE 45 00:06:27,286 --> 00:06:34,460 MY BED. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WATCHING ME FOR SIX MONTHS IN MY BEDROOM. >> A RUSSIAN COURT ORDERED 46 00:06:34,527 --> 00:06:40,967 SHEVCHENKO INTO HOUSE ARREST. SHE COULDN'T VISIT OR CARE FOR ALINA. IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE HER 47 00:06:41,033 --> 00:06:50,009 DAUGHTER DEVELOPED PNEUMONIA. BY THE TIME A JUDGE GRANTED SHEVCHENKO A PASS TO THE HOSPITAL, ALINA WAS UNCONSCIOUS. 48 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:56,749 >> I SPENT MAYBE TEN MINUTES HOLDING HER HAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO WHEN MY CHILDREN ARE ILL. 49 00:06:56,816 --> 00:07:04,857 WHEN YOU HOLD THEIR HAND, THEY FEEL BETTER. BUT THIS TIME, SHE WAS COLD. SHE DIDN'T FEEL ME. 50 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:15,668 AND SHE DIED IN AN HOUR. >> IN 2021, SHEVCHENKO WAS GIVEN A FOUR-YEAR SUSPENDED SENTENCE. BUT WHEN PUTIN INVADED UKRAINE 51 00:07:15,735 --> 00:07:26,612 THE NEXT YEAR, SHE DECIDED TO FLEE RUSSIA. FROM HER SOUTHERN CITY, SHE TOOK HER TWO SURVIVING CHILDREN ON AN 52 00:07:26,679 --> 00:07:35,054 1,100-MILE DRIVE. A U.S.-BASED DEMOCRACY GROUP ARRANGED LITHUANIAN VISAS. >> WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT 53 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:42,829 RUSSIA TODAY? >> IT'S ENOUGH TO WRITE SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. JUST ONE SENTENCE AND YOU CAN BE 54 00:07:42,895 --> 00:07:48,034 IMPRISONED FOR YEARS. THEY ARE LISTENING TO YOUR PHONE CALLS. THEY'RE WATCHING YOU IN YOUR 55 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:57,410 BEDROOM. THEY'RE CONTROLLING YOU. >> BREAKING THAT CONTROL IS WHY SERGEI DAVIDAS ALSO LEFT RUSSIA 56 00:07:57,476 --> 00:08:02,782 FOR LITHUANIA IN 2022. >> YOU WOULD BE IN A RUSSIAN PRISON JUST FOR DOING THIS INTERVIEW. 57 00:08:02,849 --> 00:08:12,024 >> OH, FOR SURE. FOR SURE. >> IN MOSCOW, DAVIDAS HELPED LEAD ONE OF RUSSIA'S LARGEST 58 00:08:12,091 --> 00:08:17,730 HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS, CALLED MEMORIAL. IT WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE TWO YEARS AGO. 59 00:08:17,797 --> 00:08:23,269 BUT NOW IT'S BANNED. HE TOLD US -- [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] 60 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:27,540 ALMOST EVERY DAY, THERE ARE MORE AND MORE ARRESTS. WE HEAR NEWS ABOUT NEW POLITICAL ARRESTS. 61 00:08:27,607 --> 00:08:38,217 AND APART FROM THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT, MORE OFTEN THAN BEFORE, THERE'S VIOLENCE AND TORTURE. DAVIDAS HEADS MEMORIAL'S PROJECT 62 00:08:38,284 --> 00:08:48,895 TO SUPPORT POLITICAL PRISONERS. HE TOLD US HE HAS CONFIRMED 680 IMPRISONED TODAY, BUT HE BELIEVES THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS 63 00:08:48,961 --> 00:09:01,007 MULTIPLES OF THAT. SINCE 2022, RUSSIANS CAN BE SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS JUST FOR CRITICIZING THE WAR ON THE 64 00:09:01,073 --> 00:09:07,713 STREET OR IN THE MEDIA. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] "ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE 65 00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:16,022 WAR," HE SAYS, "WAS A COMPLETE WIPEOUT OF INDEPENDENT MASS MEDIA, A PROHIBITION OF ANY OPINION THAT'S NOT UNDER CONTROL 66 00:09:16,088 --> 00:09:24,230 OF THE GOVERNMENT." INDEPENDENT NEWSROOMS IN RUSSIA HAVE BEEN FORCED TO CLOSE. GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED NEWSCASTS 67 00:09:24,297 --> 00:09:34,907 REPORT ONLY THE ABSURD LIE THAT THE WAR IS SELF-DEFENSE AGAINST NAZIS. THIS HOST SAYS -- 68 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:39,745 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] "WE ARE ON THE SIDE OF GOOD, AGAINST THE FORCES OF ABSOLUTE 69 00:09:39,812 --> 00:09:50,656 EVIL EMBODIED BY THE UKRAINIAN NAZI BATTALIONS." >> PEOPLE ARE SCARED, SO THEY FEEL LONELY. 70 00:09:50,723 --> 00:10:03,703 THEY FEEL TERRIBLY LONELY. >> TATYANA FELGENHAUER AND ALEXANDER PLYUSCHEV WERE TALK SHOW HOSTS ON A PROMINENT 71 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:08,207 STATION. THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS UNTIL THE DAY PUTIN LAUNCHED HIS WAR. 72 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:15,448 >> IT WAS MY MORNING SHOW. I SAID, IT'S HALF PAST 6:00 IN THE MORNING. WAR BEGAN. 73 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:28,327 >> WAR BEGAN, AND WITHIN TWO WEEKS, THEIR STATION WAS FORCED TO CLOSE. NOW, PLYUSCHEV AND FELGENHAUER 74 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:36,969 ARE IN VILNIUS STREAMING DAILY ON YOUTUBE. PUTIN SILENCED FACEBOOK, X, AND INSTAGRAM, BUT YOUTUBE MAY BE 75 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:44,343 TOO POPULAR FOR THE KREMLIN TO BLOCK SO FAR. >> THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE WAR HONESTLY 76 00:10:44,410 --> 00:10:55,388 BECAUSE THE PROPAGANDA TRIES TO CREATE THIS FEELING THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY ALONE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE WAR. 77 00:10:55,454 --> 00:11:05,264 >> WHY DOES THIS MEAN SO MUCH TO YOU? >> REALLY I WOULD HATE MYSELF IF I'M SILENT OR PRETENDING THAT 78 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:16,075 EVERYTHING IS OKAY. >> IF RUSSIAN RADIO AND TV STATIONS ARE ALLOWED ONLY KREMLIN TALKING POINTS, WE SAW A 79 00:11:16,142 --> 00:11:25,985 LITHUANIAN STATION TELLING THE TRUTH, NOT ON A CHANNEL, BUT ON PLATFORM NUMBER 5 TO A CAPTIVE RUSSIAN AUDIENCE. 80 00:11:26,052 --> 00:11:37,229 BECAUSE PART OF RUSSIA, KALININGRAD, ON THE LEFT, IS SEPARATE, LIKE ALASKA FROM THE LOWER 48, THE MOSCOW-KALININGRAD 81 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:43,002 TRAIN MUST TRAVEL THROUGH LITHUANIA. THE CARS ARE SEALED FOR THE TRANSIT. 82 00:11:43,069 --> 00:11:51,877 BUT AT A STOP IN VILNIUS, RUSSIAN PASSENGERS WERE CONFRONTED BY POSTERS OF ATROCITIES. 83 00:11:51,944 --> 00:12:11,297 EACH READ, "PUTIN IS KILLING CIVILIANS IN UKRAINE. DO YOU AGREE WITH THISTHIS"? THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW HOW MUCH 84 00:12:11,363 --> 00:12:19,505 TRUTH CLIMBED ABOARD. AND NO ONE IS ALLOWED OFF THE TRAIN BECAUSE LITHUANIA WORRIES ABOUT RUSSIAN AGENTS. 85 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:27,813 >> PUTIN IS INFAMOUS FOR ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK HIS ENEMIES IN FOREIG COUNTRIES. AND I WONDER IF THE RUSSIAN 86 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,185 DISSIDENTS ARE SAFE HERE IN LITHUANIA. >> OF COURSE IT IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US. 87 00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:41,660 WE SPEND CONSIDERABLE EFFORT IN MAKING SURE DISSIDENTS ARE SAFE HERE AND SAFER THAN THEY WOULD BE, IN FACT, IN MANY OTHER 88 00:12:41,727 --> 00:12:46,999 COUNTRIES. >> HAVE THERE BEEN ATTEMPTS? >> I'M AFRAID I CAN'T RELEASE THAT INFORMATION IN MORE DETAIL. 89 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:54,940 BUT LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, THAT RUSSIA IS CONSTANTLY PROBING AND CONSTANTLY TRYING. >> AND THIS PAST WEEK, RUSSIA 90 00:12:55,007 --> 00:13:05,484 MAY HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH. LEONID VOLKOV WAS ATTACKED WITH A HAMMER OUTSIDE VILNIUS. VOLKOV, ON THE RIGHT, WAS A TOP 91 00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:14,059 AIDE TO PUTIN'S LATE RIVAL, ALEXEI NAVALNY. VOLKOV'S ARM WAS BROKEN. THE ATTACKER FLED. 92 00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:23,636 VLADIMIR PUTIN'S RE-ELECTION THIS WEEK WILL BRING HIM TO HIS FIFTH TERM, WHICH WILL COVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS. 93 00:13:23,702 --> 00:13:33,846 HE ENJOYS SUPPORT FROM NATIONALISTS WHO WANT TO BELIEVE EXCEPTIONAL NATION. BUT PUTIN ALSO HAS WEAKNESSES. 94 00:13:33,913 --> 00:13:44,590 IT'S ESTIMATED HE'S LOST 300,000 TROOPS KILLED AND WOUNDED. AND RUSSIA HAS A POPULATION LESS THAN HALF THAT OF THE UNITED 95 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:55,734 STATES AND AN ECONOMY ABOUT THE SIZE OF ITALY'S. >> MY HOPE IS A COUNTRY WHERE GOVERNMENT TAKES CARE OF OUR 96 00:13:55,801 --> 00:14:03,709 CITIZENS. >> ANASTASIA SHEVCHENKO IS FREE IN VILNIUS, BUT SHE'S WANTED IN RUSSIA FOR BREAKING HER 97 00:14:03,776 --> 00:14:09,315 PROBATION. THESE DAYS SHE'S STREAMING HER OWN YOUTUBE SHOW AND SENDS MEDICINE, FOOD, AND LETTERS TO 98 00:14:09,381 --> 00:14:16,722 POLITICAL PRISONERS. SHE'S BECOME ANOTHER VOICE TO THE ISOLATED AND THE LONELY AND THOSE LIKE HER DAUGHTER, WHO 99 00:14:16,789 --> 00:14:22,695 WILL NEVER ESCAPE THE NEW IRON CURTAIN. >> SHE WAS ALONE, NO ONE NEXT TO HER. 100 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:29,868 I REALLY FEEL VERY GUILTY ABOUT IT. BUT I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN MY LIFE, I THINK. 101 00:14:29,935 --> 00:14:39,712 >> WHY NOT? >> YOU KNOW, THE SOCIETY IN RUSSIA IS BASED ON FAKES. WE HAVE FAKE DEMOCRACY. 102 00:14:39,778 --> 00:14:47,686 BY CONSTITUTION, IT IS A DEMOCRACY. FAKE NEWS, FAKE ELECTIONS. AND I WANT TO BE THE OPPOSIT. 103 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:59,198 I WANT TO BE OPEN. I WANT RUSSIA TO BE OPEN. >> HOW SAFE ARE RUSSIAN DISSIDENTS IN LITHUANIA? 104 00:14:59,265 --> 00:15:06,105 >> PEOPLE ASK ME, ARE YOU ACTUALLY SAFE THERE. 105 00:15:12,144 --> 00:15:20,519 >>> 15 YEARS AGO, WE REPORTED ON A WOMAN NAMED JENNIFER THOMPSON, A RAPE WOMAN, WHO WAS DEVASTATED TO LEARN YEARS AFTER HER ASSAULT 106 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:28,460 THAT WILL SHE AND THE POLICE HAD IDENTIFIED AN INNOCENT MAN, WHO WAS CONVICTED AND SENT TO PRISON. 107 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:37,936 WHILE THE ACTUAL RAPIST HAD GONE ON TO ATTACK SEVERAL MORE WOMEN. NOT AN UNCOMMON STORY IN THIS ERA OF DNA EXONERATIONS. 108 00:15:38,003 --> 00:15:46,345 AND JENNIFER THOMPSON HAS TRIED FOR YEARS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THOMPSON KNOWS FIRSTHAND THAT 109 00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:55,054 WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS SCAR NOT JUST THE UNJUSTLY CONVICTED, BUT ALSO THE ORIGINAL CRIME VICTIMS WHO ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED. 110 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:05,731 SO, SHE'S DOING SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE HAS TRIED AND PERHAPS ONLY SHE COULD PULL OFF, BRINGING TOGETHER CRIME VICTIMS AND 111 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:15,641 INNOCENT MEN FROM DIFFERENT CASES FOR WHAT SHE CALLS "HEALING JUSTICE." >> WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO 112 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:21,814 DO IS TURN YOUR BOWL UPSIDE-DOWN. >> WHAT WE SAW ON DAY ONE OF A MULTIDAY GROUP RETREAT JENNIFER 113 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:28,620 THOMPSON IS LEADING SURE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE HEALING. TEN MEN AND WOMEN PLUS AN OBSERVER -- 114 00:16:28,687 --> 00:16:35,494 >> NICE JOB, LESLEY. >> -- SMASHING BOWLS WITH A HAMMER. >> NICE. 115 00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:42,534 >> WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO NOW IS I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPAIR IT. >> IT WAS QUITE SOMETHING TO 116 00:16:42,601 --> 00:16:52,077 REALIZE THAT GLUING PIECES BACK TOGETHER AT ONE TABLE FOR TWO WOMEN WHO HAD BEEN RAPED AT THE AGES OF 15 AND 12 SITTING ACROSS 117 00:16:52,144 --> 00:17:02,287 FROM TWO MEN WHO, IN UNRELATED CASES, HAD BEEN WRONGFULLY CONVICTED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHILDREN AND HAD SPENT MORE THAN 118 00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:09,228 TWO DECADES IN PRISON. AT THE NEXT TABLE, ANOTHER WOMAN WHO SURVIVED A SEXUAL ASSAULT SITTING BESIDE A MAN EXONERATED 119 00:17:09,294 --> 00:17:17,469 FOR RAPE AND MURDER. AND OUR TABLE, THE PARTNER AND DAUGHTER OF A MURDER VICTIM. EVERYONE HERE PART OF A CASE 120 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:28,947 WHERE THE WRONG MAN WAS SENT TO PRISON FOR YEARS AND YEARS. >> YOU HAVE SAID THAT WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS AREN'T A SINGLE 121 00:17:29,014 --> 00:17:33,285 BULLET. YOU SAID THEY'RE BOMBS. >> A WRONGFUL CONVICTION DOESN'T HURT A PERSON. 122 00:17:33,352 --> 00:17:42,561 IT'S NOT JUST RAYMOND TOWLER GOT HURT. HIS WHOLE FAMILY GOT SHRAPNEL. AND THE VICTIMS GOT SHRAPNEL. 123 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:48,600 AND THE COMMUNITY RECEIVED SHRAPNEL BECAUSE A CHILD MOLESTER WAS STILL IN THE COMMUNITY. 124 00:17:48,667 --> 00:17:55,974 THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE IN A WRONGFUL CONVICTION. I THINK IT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FOR EVERY SINGLE WRONGFUL 125 00:17:56,041 --> 00:18:03,415 CONVICTION CASE THAT ARE HURT. >> JENNIFER THOMPSON WAS ONE OF THEM. SHE WAS A COLLEGE STUDENT IN 126 00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:11,023 1984, WHEN A MAN BROKE INTO HER OFF-CAMPUS APARTMENT AND RAPED HER AT KNIFE POINT. JENNIFER WORKED WITH POLICE TO 127 00:18:11,089 --> 00:18:19,598 CREATE A COMPOSITE STRETCH, THEN IDENTIFIED A MAN NAMED RONALD COTTON IN THE PHOTO AND PHYSICAL LINEUPS POLICE SHOWED HER. 128 00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:32,744 JENNIFER TESTIFIED IN COURT AGAINST RONALD COTTON AND WAS RELIEVED WHEN HE RECEIVED A LIFE SENTENCE. 129 00:18:32,811 --> 00:18:42,221 BUT AFTER 11 YEARS IN PRISON, DNA PROVED COTTON'S INNOCENCE AND IDENTIFIED THE ACTUAL RAPIST, WHOSE PHOTO HAD NOT BEEN 130 00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:50,462 IN THE LINEUP. RONALD COTTON WAS EXONERATED, AND JENNIFER WAS WRACKED WITH GUILT, THAT SHE TOLD US IN 2009. 131 00:18:50,529 --> 00:18:56,535 >> SHAME? >> SHAME. TERRIBLE SHAME. SUFFOCATING, DEBILITATING SHAME. 132 00:18:56,602 --> 00:19:04,676 >> JENNIFER TURNED THAT SHAME INTO ACTION. SHE APOLOGIZED TO RONALD COTTON IN PERSON AND THEN STARTED 133 00:19:04,743 --> 00:19:13,051 SPEAKING AROUND THE COUNTRY TO POLICE AND PROSECUTORS, SOMETIMES TOGETHER WITH COTTON, ABOUT HOW TO MAKE WRONGFUL 134 00:19:13,118 --> 00:19:22,427 CONVICTIONS LESS LIKELY. BUT OVER THE YEARS, AS EXONERATIONS OF THE INNOCENT HAVE MULTIPLIED -- 135 00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:29,201 >> FINALLY WE'RE FREE. >> -- WITH MORE THAN 3,500 FREED SO FAR -- >> I'M FREE. 136 00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:36,475 >> -- BASED ON NEW EVIDENCE, INCLUDING DNA, JENNIFER BEGAN TO FOCUS IN ON WHAT WAS BEING OVERLOOKED. 137 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:44,149 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK MOST PEOPLE FEEL AND SEE WHEN THEY SEE AN INNOCENT MAN COME OUT OF PRISON? >> IT'S THE DAY THAT THAT MAN OR 138 00:19:44,216 --> 00:19:50,956 WOMAN, WHO'S WRONGFULLY INCARCERATED, AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE REJOICING. >> I KNEW YOU DIDN'T DO IT. 139 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:56,862 >> IT'S THE DAY THEY'VE BEEN DREAMING ABOUT, THEY'VE PRAYED FOR. THEY'RE ON THE COURT STEPS AND 140 00:19:56,929 --> 00:20:03,669 THEIR ARMS ARE RAISED HIGH, AND IT'S A DAY OF CELEBRATION. BUT FOR THE CRIME VICTIMS, FOR THE MURDER VICTIM FAMILY 141 00:20:03,735 --> 00:20:11,076 MEMBERS, THEY'RE SITTING BACK HERE SAYING, HEY, HOLD UP A SECOND. THIS IS ANOTHER NIGHTMARE ON TOP 142 00:20:11,143 --> 00:20:23,989 OF A NIGHTMARE. THE VICTIMS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. >> VICTIMS, SHE SAYS, LIKE TOMESHIA CARRINGTON ARTIS, WHO 143 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:31,263 WAS 12 YEARS OLD WHEN A MAN BROKE INTO HER BEDROOM AND RAPED HER. >> HE PUT A KNIFE TO MY THROAT 144 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:42,407 AND SAID IF I SCREAMED HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME AND MY MOM. >> PENNY BEERNTSEN, SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AT AGE 36, AS SHE WENT 145 00:20:42,474 --> 00:20:48,146 FOR AN AFTERNOON RUN ON THE SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN. >> HE SAID, NOW I'M GOING TO KILL YOU. 146 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:57,189 >> AND LORETTA ZILINGER WHITE, WHO WAS RAPED AT THE AGE OF 15 ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL ONE MORNING, AFTER SHE MISSED HER 147 00:20:57,255 --> 00:21:01,660 BUS. >> IT'S HARD. PEOPLE EXPECT YOU TO JUST PUT IT BEHIND YOU AND NOT THINK ABOUT 148 00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:06,865 IT AGAIN. AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. 149 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:13,405 >> ALL THESE WOMEN, LIKE JENNIFER, HAD IDENTIFIED A SUSPECT THE POLICE SHOWED THEM, ONLY TO LEARN YEARS LATER THAT 150 00:21:13,472 --> 00:21:22,014 THOSE MEN WERE INNOCENT. AND THEY WERE GRIPPED BY A WHOLE NEW NIGHTMARE. >> I FELT SO BAD FOR HIM BECAUSE 151 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,853 I FELT LIKE I SENT THIS MAN TO PRISON. THAT'S ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT. I GOT SCARED. 152 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:38,096 I FELT LIKE HE WAS GOING TO TRY AND COME OUT AND KILL ME. I JUST -- I SHUT DOWN. >> DID PEOPLE BLAME YOU? 153 00:21:38,163 --> 00:21:44,603 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. THE FIRST TIME I WENT OUT IN PUBLIC, A FRIEND CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE 154 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:50,142 SHOWING YOUR FACE. >> THEY WERE SAYING THAT I NEEDED TO GO TO PRISON. >> THAT YOU NEEDED -- 155 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:56,415 >> YES. THAT I INTENTIONALLY SENT THE WRONG MAN TO PRISON. >> OH, MY GOSH. 156 00:21:56,481 --> 00:22:02,087 >> YEAH, IT WAS BAD. >> YEAH. >> MEMORY EXPERTS HAVE LONG UNDERSTOOD HOW CRIME VICTIMS CAN 157 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:09,628 GET IT WRONG. IN OUR EARLIER STORY ABOUT JENNIFER'S CASE, PROFESSOR GARY WELLS SHOWED US A SIMULATED 158 00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:16,001 CRIME SCENE AND THEN A LINEUP. >> NOW YOU KNOW NOW, AFTER WE'VE TALKED, PROBABLY NOT TO PICK ANYONE. 159 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:20,205 >> NO. NO. ACTUALLY -- I ACTUALLY KNOW WHO IT IS. 160 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:26,144 IF I HAD -- >> WHO IS IT? >> IF I HAD COME UPON THAT -- I THINK IT'S THIS GUY. 161 00:22:26,211 --> 00:22:30,549 AM I WRONG? AM I WRONG? >> YEAH. >> I'M WRONG? 162 00:22:30,615 --> 00:22:34,519 >> YEAH. IT'S NONE OF THEM. >> STUDIES HAVE SHOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN WHEN THE ACTUAL 163 00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:41,426 PERPETRATOR IS NOT IN THE LINEUP, WITNESSES OFTEN PICK THE WRONG MAN, WHO THEN COMES TO REPLACE THE ORIGINAL OFFENDER IN 164 00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:54,740 THEIR MEMORY OF THE CRIME. IN JENNIFER'S CASE AND TOMESHIA AND PENNY'S, THE REAL PERPETRATORS REVEALED BY DNA 165 00:22:54,806 --> 00:23:01,880 YEARS LATER HAD NOT BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL LINEUPS. >> 20 YEARS LATER WHEN THEY COME TO ME AND SAY, BY THE WAY -- 166 00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:08,153 >> I CAN'T IMAGINE. >> -- THE PERSON WHO RAPED YOU NEVER WENT TO PRISON AND THE PERSON WE THOUGHT WAS INNOCENT. 167 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:13,859 SEE YA. AND OH, BY THE WAY, IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT. IT'S NOT THE SYSTEM'S FAULT. 168 00:23:13,925 --> 00:23:23,368 HERE WAS MY NARRATIVE. RAPE VICTIM FALSELY ACCUSES AN INNOCENT MAN AND SENDS HIM TO PRISON. 169 00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:29,007 EVERYTHING'S WRONG WITH THAT BECAUSE A FALSE ACCUSATION DENOTES A LIE. WHAT WOULD A CRIME SURVIVOR, WHY 170 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:34,446 WOULD A VICTIM, WANT THE WRONG PERSON TO GO TO PRISON? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. 171 00:23:34,513 --> 00:23:41,419 >> YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THEN WE GET IT. BUT WE DON'T HEAR IT. AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A BLAZING 172 00:23:41,486 --> 00:23:50,495 HEADLINE, MAN IS FREED, PERSON WHO FINGERED HIM GOT IT WRONG. THAT'S IT. >> AND THE SYSTEM NOW DOESN'T 173 00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:56,835 GET HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW IT FAILED ME AND IT FAILED MY FAMILY AND IT FAILED THE INNOCENT PERSON. 174 00:23:56,902 --> 00:24:02,974 IT FAILED THE INNOCENT PERSON'S FAMILY. AND IT FAILED EVERYBODY. >> THAT FAILURE, JENNIFER TOLD 175 00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:11,183 US, IS ALSO DEVASTATING FOR FAMILIES OF MURDER VICTIMS, EVEN WHEN THEY PLAYED NO ROLE THEMSELVES IN IDENTIFYING THE 176 00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:18,924 WRONGFULLY CONVICTED PERSON. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ANDREA HARRISON AND HER FATHER, DWAYNE JONES. 177 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:28,400 ANDREA'S MOTHER, JACQUELINE, WAS RAPED AND MURDERED IN 1987, WHEN ANDREA WAS JUST THREE YEARS OLD. >> IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST 178 00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:34,973 HORRENDOUS CRIMES. SHE WAS BRUTALLY RAPED, TORTURED. SOMEONE FOUND HER BODY WALKING 179 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:43,515 THE DOG. >> A LOCAL MAN NAMED LARRY PETERSON, SPENT MORE THAN 17 YEARS IN PRISON FOR THE CRIME 180 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:49,554 BEFORE DNA TESTING PROVED HIS INNOCENCE AND HE WAS RELEASED. >> DID YOU KNOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE RELEASED? 181 00:24:49,621 --> 00:24:52,357 DID THEY TELL YOU? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. 182 00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:57,829 >> FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, SOMEONE WAS TRIED, CONVICTED, AND PUT AWAY. >> YES, MA'AM. 183 00:24:57,896 --> 00:25:05,670 >> AND THEN YOU FIND OUT THAT THE DNA DOESN'T MATCH. >> I MEAN, YOU GO BACK INTO FIGHT OR FLIGHT. 184 00:25:05,737 --> 00:25:09,975 >> YEAH. >> YOU GOT SCARED. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ABSOLUTELY WE DID. 185 00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:14,546 >> CAN YOU TELL US OF WHAT? >> WHO'S THE PERSON -- WHO HURT MY MOTHER? WHAT HAPPENED TO JACKIE? 186 00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:18,984 WHO DID IT? WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, THEY'RE STILL OUT THERE. >> THEY'RE STILL THERE. 187 00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:29,427 >> BUT SINCE LARRY PETERSON'S EXONERATION, WITH THE CASE NOW COLD, THEY FEEL THE ORIGINAL CRIME AND VICTIM HAVE BECOME AN 188 00:25:29,494 --> 00:25:34,466 AFTERTHOUGHT. >> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MR. PETERSON? THAT IS NOT MY CHARGE. 189 00:25:34,532 --> 00:25:42,407 I CARE ABOUT JACKIE. I'M WORRIED ABOUT JACKIE. WHAT ABOUT JACKIE? >> EVEN WHILE VICTIMS AND 190 00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:55,420 FAMILIES ARE LEFT REELING, JENNIFER KNOWS FROM HER FRIENDSHIP WITH RONALD COTTON AND HER WORK WITH OTHER EXXON 191 00:25:55,487 --> 00:26:05,830 EXXONEREES IS JUST THE START TO REBUILD. RAYMOND TOWLER, EXONERATED AFTER 29 YEARS IN PRISON -- 29 192 00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:16,541 YEARS -- PLAYS IN A BAND WITH OTHER EXXON REES AND SAYS SHE STRUGGLES WITH THE LINGERING STIGMA AND HURT OF BEING CHARGED 193 00:26:16,608 --> 00:26:25,684 WITH SUCH A HEINOUS CRIME. >> TELL US, IF IT'S NOT TOO PAINFUL, WHAT THE CRIME -- >> IT'S PAINFUL. 194 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:37,495 IT WAS RAPE OF 11 AND 12-YEAR-OLD KIDS. >> AND DNA TESTING FINALLY PROVED TOWLER'S INNOCENCE AND 195 00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:42,834 EARNED HIS FREEDOM, HE SAID IT WAS THRILLING BUT ALSO DAUNTING. >> THE ADJUSTMENT WAS DIFFICULT. >> YEAH. 196 00:26:42,901 --> 00:26:51,710 I COULDN'T EVEN REALLY GO OUT THE DOOR BY MYSELF. >> YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU FIT IN ANYWHERE. 197 00:26:51,776 --> 00:27:04,322 >> EXONEREES -- CHRIS OCHOA'S CASE, ABUSIVE INTERROGATIONS THAT LED TO A FALSE CONFESSION TO RAIN AND MURDER. 198 00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:13,398 FOR HOWARD DUDLEY, EVIDENCE WITHHELD BY PROSECUTORS THAT LIKELY WOULD HAVE CLEARED HIM OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE, FOR WHICH HE 199 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:25,844 SERVED MORE THAN 23 YEARS. >> I MISSED MY KIDS, SEE THEM AT THE FOOTBALL GAME, SEE THEM ON THE BASKETBALL COURT, DIDN'T GET 200 00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:32,917 A CHANCE TO SEE NONE OF THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. >> SO JENNIFER CAME UP WITH A 201 00:27:32,984 --> 00:27:40,125 NOVEL IDEA. >> I AM JENNIFER THOMPSON. I AM A VICTIM SURVIVOR. >> MY NAME IS RAYMOND, RAYMOND 202 00:27:40,191 --> 00:27:53,271 TOWLER. I'M AN EXXONEREE. >> SHE STARTED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED HEALING JUSTICE THAT 203 00:27:53,338 --> 00:28:03,915 BRINGS TOGETHER EXONOREES AND KRAM CRIME VICTIMS AS WELL AS FAMILY MEMBERS. 204 00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:09,154 >> MY NAME IS ANDREA. >> HEALING JUSTICE PAID TO BRING THEM FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO THIS RENTED RETREAT CENTER IN 205 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:21,933 VIRGINIA, WHERE THEY WILL SPEND THREE DAYS SHARING STORIES, PLAYING GAMES, AND EATING ALL THEIR MEALS TOGETHER. 206 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,440 THIS IS THE 17th RETREAT HEALING JUSTICE HAS DONE. >> HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT WHEN IT'S NOT THE SAME CROWD? 207 00:28:28,506 --> 00:28:38,016 >> VERY EFFECTIVE. THERE'S SOMETHING POWERFUL AND HEALING WHEN AN EXONEREE CAN HEAR WHAT THE VICTIM IN THEIR 208 00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:44,689 CASE MUST HAVE FELT LIKE. FOR CRIME VICTIMS, IT'S ALSO HEALING TO HEAR ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE. 209 00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:53,665 >> THE BIGGEST THING I LOST WAS TRUST. >> THREE DAYS OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE, REBUILDING TRUST AND 210 00:28:53,731 --> 00:28:54,399 HEALING, WHEN WE COME BACK. 211 00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:12,917 . >>> JENNIFER THOMPSON'S GOAL WHEN SHE CREATED THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, HEALING JUSTICE, 212 00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:23,862 IN 2015, WAS TO HELP ALL GROUPS HARMED BY WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS. HEALING JUSTICE NOW ADVISES PROSECUTORS' OFFICES AROUND THE 213 00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:29,934 COUNTRY ON DEALING MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EMPATHETICALLY WITH CRIME VICTIMS IN EXONERATION CASES. 214 00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:34,706 AND THEY'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN A GRANT FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO EXPAND THOSE EFFORTS. 215 00:29:34,772 --> 00:29:44,315 BUT IT'S WHAT THEY CALL THE HEALING SIDE OF THEIR WORK THAT IS MOST MEANINGFUL TO JENNIFER. SHE DID COURSE WORK IN TRAUMA 216 00:29:44,382 --> 00:29:53,691 RECOVERY AND WORKED WITH PSYCHOLOGISTS TO DESIGN A PROGRAM TO SAFELY BRING TOGETHER VICTIMS OF CRIME AND EXONEREES. 217 00:29:53,758 --> 00:30:05,703 THEY WORK IN SMALL GROUPS ON THE WOUNDS LEFT BEHIND WHEN THE ZWRIS JUSTICE SYSTEM GETS IT WRONG. 218 00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:12,410 REMEMBER THE BREAKING AND GLUING BACK TOGETHER OF THOSE BOWLS? >> DID ANYBODY NOTICE HOW FAST AND EASY IT WAS TO BREAK IT AND 219 00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:20,585 HOW HARD IT IS TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN? >> THAT WAS JUST THE START OF THIS RETREAT'S OPENING EXERCISE. 220 00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:29,494 AND PERHAPS A METAPHOR FOR THE WHOLE ENDEAVOR. >> WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO NOW IS TO PAINT YOUR BROKEN 221 00:30:29,561 --> 00:30:39,704 PLACES WITH GOLD. THIS IS ACTUALLY 24 KARAT GOLD PAINT. >> SHE TOLD US IT'S CALLED 222 00:30:39,771 --> 00:30:43,675 KINTSUGI. >> KINTSUGI? WHAT IS THAT? >> IT'S A JAPANESE CONCEPT THAT 223 00:30:43,741 --> 00:30:50,481 EVEN IN OUR BROKEN PLACES, WE'RE STILL BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE WE'RE STRONG AT OUR BROKEN PLACES AND WE'RE NOT DISPOSABLE. 224 00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:58,723 >> BUT BEFORE THEY CAN PAINT THEIR REAL WOUNDS WITH GOLD, THEY HAVE TO LOOK HARD AT THE BREAKS THAT NEED REPAIR. 225 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:08,299 >> I LOST PART OF MY HEART. >> SO, SITTING IN A CIRCLE, USING A ROCK TO GIVE WHOEVER HOLDS IT THE FLOOR, AND WITH A 226 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:14,872 HEALING JUSTIC SOCIAL WORKER ALWAYS PRESENT, THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR LOSSES. >> I LOST BELIEVING IN MYSELF. 227 00:31:14,939 --> 00:31:24,482 I HAD SO MUCH CONFIDENCE THAT I HAD SO MUCH. >> THAT FIRST, YOU KNOW, SLAM OF THE DOORS, EVERYTHING GOT REAL 228 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:34,359 RIGHT THEN, YOU KNOW? I'VE SEEN PEOPLE, SUICIDE, DEATH BY COP, JUST GETTING BEAT UP, KILLED. 229 00:31:34,425 --> 00:31:48,473 IT ALL COMES BACK, AND I HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE RIGHT NOW. >> THE HARDEST PART FOR ME IS 230 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:53,278 HEARING WHAT THE EXONEREES WENT THROUGH IN PRISON. IT'S SO HARD TO HEAR, BUT IT'S SO NECESSARY. 231 00:31:53,344 --> 00:32:02,153 >> SO WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY -- >> ON DAY TWO OF THE RETREAT, JENNIFER LED AN EXERCISE ON HOW THE HARSH WORDS USED AGAINST 232 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:06,924 EACH OF THEM END UP BECOMING INTERNALIZED. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALLED A LIAR. 233 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:12,196 YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALLED A RAPIST. AND THOSE WORDS REALLY DO TAKE ON A LIFE OF THEIR OWN. 234 00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:19,671 I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO WRITE A LETTER TO YOURSELF FROM THE SPACE OF THE CRITICAL MIND, THAT LOOP THAT PLAYS IN YOUR HEAD 235 00:32:19,737 --> 00:32:26,444 OVER AND OVER AGAIN. >> YOU HAVE THEM WRITE LETTERS? WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE? >> I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. 236 00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:33,217 WHEN THEY'RE WRITING IT, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY. AND THEN I HAVE THEM READ IT OUT LOUD AT CIRCLE. 237 00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:38,790 THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT. >> DEAR CHRIS, YOU FAILED IN LIFE. WHY DID YOU CONFESS? 238 00:32:38,856 --> 00:32:48,166 I WOULD NEVER HAVE CONFESSED. >> WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE QUIET? >> DEAR RAYMOND. YOU ARE A ANGRY BLACK MAN. 239 00:32:48,232 --> 00:33:00,712 YOU WILL NEVER KNOW LOVE. YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A PRISONER. >> AND THEN THERE WAS LORETTA'S. >> DEAR LORETTA. 240 00:33:00,778 --> 00:33:07,118 YOU DESERVED TO BE RAPED AND BEATEN. YOU REALLY DON'T DESERVE TO BE ALIVE. 241 00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:13,458 YOU AREN'T BRAVE NOR STRONG. YOU ARE A FAILURE AS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER. >> LORETTA, JENNIFER TOLD US, 242 00:33:13,524 --> 00:33:22,734 FACES ONE OF THE MOST EXCRUCIATING SITUATIONS FOR A VICTIM IN AN EXONERATION CASE. WHEN THE DNA CLEARS ONE MAN BUT 243 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:30,208 DOESN'T IDENTIFY WHO THE ACTUAL ASSAILANT WAS. >> I'M STUCK. >> SHE TOLD US SHE RELIVES THE 244 00:33:30,274 --> 00:33:38,149 ASSAULT DAILY AND CAN'T GET THE EXONERATED MAN'S FACE OUT OF HER MEMORY. >> SO, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS 245 00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:50,194 CLEARED THROUGH DNA, HIS FACE IS STILL THERE. >> YES. THE DNA SAID IT WASN'T HIM. 246 00:33:50,261 --> 00:34:02,507 >> YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE IT. >> NO. I FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DID SOMETHING WRONG. 247 00:34:02,573 --> 00:34:08,613 >> SO YOU'RE HAVING BOTH THE FEELING THAT HE WAS THE ONE AND THAT YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. >> YES. 248 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:15,453 >> OH, MY GOD. YOU REALLY ARE STUCK. >> I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THIS. >> FOR ANDREA HARRISON, WHOSE 249 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:22,293 MOTHER'S KILLER ALSO REMAINS UNKNOWN, IT'S A FAMILIAR STRUGGLE. >> WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME WAS THAT 250 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,866 HE WAS THE PERSON WHO MURDERED MY MOTHER. SO, THAT WAS A BELIEF OF MINE FOR A LOT OF YEARS. 251 00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:36,874 I CAN'T GET THAT OUT OF MY HEAD. >> ON HIS SIDE OF IT? I MEAN, THAT'S SAD. >> IT IS SAD. 252 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:45,116 >> THE JUSTICE SYSTEM FAILED THEM JUST LIKE IT DID US. >> UNTIL NOW, ANDREA AND HER FATHER HAD NOT BEEN WILLING TO 253 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:51,789 ATTEND A RETREAT WITH EXONEREES PRESENT. >> DO YOU THINK THAT THE EXONERATED PERSON AND THE VICTIM 254 00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:59,464 ARE ALMOST PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE? THEY'RE BOTH VICTIMS OF THE SAME PERPETRATOR. 255 00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:07,038 >> WHO KNOWS SOMEONE SITTING IN JAIL FOR WHAT HE OR SHE DID. >> THAT'S RIGHT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN AN 256 00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:11,709 INNOCENT PERSON IS IN PRISON, A GUILTY PERSON IS NOT. WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 257 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:19,484 >> MAYBE THEY GO OFF AND DO IT MANY MORE TIMES. >> IN MY CASE, THE PERSON WHO WASN'T CAUGHT COMMITTED SIX MORE 258 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:23,688 FIRST DEGREE RAPES BEFORE HE WAS EVER APPREHENDED. >> I JUST LOVE THAT WE'RE HERE WORKING ON THIS. 259 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:31,162 >> IN THE CIRCLE, AFTER READING THE CRITICAL LETTERS, JENNIFER TURNED THE TABLES. >> I WANT YOU TO WRITE A SECOND 260 00:35:31,229 --> 00:35:39,637 LETTER NOW TO YOURSELF FROM THE SELF-COMPASSION VOICE, THE VOICE THAT YOU WOULD USE FOR THE PERSON YOU LOVE THE MOST. 261 00:35:39,704 --> 00:35:46,777 >> SO, THEY REWROTE IT. >> THEY DID. >> OH, YEAH. AND THEN THEY READ THAT OUT 262 00:35:46,844 --> 00:35:50,448 LOUD. THEY SMILED WHEN THEY READ IT. >> DEAR RAYMOND, YOU HAVE A KIND HEART. 263 00:35:50,515 --> 00:35:57,855 YOU ARE LOVED. RAYMOND, YOUR DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE, AND YOU ARE FREE TO DREAM MORE AND CREATE. 264 00:35:57,922 --> 00:36:04,262 >> YOU ARE A GREAT MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, WIFE, DAUGHTER, SISTER, FRIEND, AND SO ON AND ON. 265 00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:09,834 KEEP GOING. YOU GOT THIS. >> I'VE SEEN YOU STUMBLE, AND I'VE SEEN YOU BOUNCE RIGHT BACK. 266 00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:16,707 >> DEAR LORETTA, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS. YOU SHOULD NEVER STOP BELIEVING 267 00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:21,846 IN YOURSELF. YOU DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE HURT BY ANYONE OR ANYTHING. I WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR BIGGEST 268 00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:30,354 FAN AND SUPPORTER. I LOVE YOU. >> THAT WAS DIFFERENT. SO, WHY IS IT THAT WE SPEAK TO 269 00:36:30,421 --> 00:36:36,561 OURSELVES IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE LOVE? >> SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO 270 00:36:36,627 --> 00:36:44,902 CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY HARDER TO WRITE THE HAPPY LETTER FOR ME. I DO BELIEVE THE GOOD THINGS 271 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:51,842 ABOUT MYSELF, BUT I DON'T THINK I REALLY SAY THEM TO MYSELF ENOUGH. >> AND THE REALITY IS, IF WE 272 00:36:51,909 --> 00:37:01,586 REALLY WANT TO DO GOOD IN THE WORLD, HATING OURSELVES SERVES NOBODY AT ALL. >> WHO'S READY? 273 00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:05,957 >> AFTER TWO EMOTION-FILLED DAYS CAME A SCENE WE WEREN'T EXPECTING. >> CATCH IT. 274 00:37:06,023 --> 00:37:16,601 >> THE GROUP GATHERED TOGETHER FOR IMPROV GAMES. >> RIBBIT, RIBBIT. >> ACTING LIKE ANIMALS. 275 00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:29,113 SMILING AND LAUGHING. >> YOU PLAY A LOT OF GAMES. >> THE GAMES ARE JUST REALLY A WAY OF INVITING THAT CHILD TO 276 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:39,390 COME BACK AND PLAY AGAIN. IF YOU FEEL SAFE, YOU CAN PRETEND LIKE YOU'RE A MONKEY. YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OFRY DIG 277 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:45,997 OF RIDICULOUS THINGS. AND IT'S OKAY BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TOO. >> WE NOTICED A LOOSENING AND 278 00:37:46,063 --> 00:37:55,272 CONNECTING. LATER THAT NIGHT, OVER AN ART PROJECT, THE KIND OF IMPROMPTU CONVERSATION JENNIFER SAYS THIS 279 00:37:55,339 --> 00:38:01,445 RETREAT IS ALL ABOUT. >> HOW CAN SOMEBODY LOOK AT ME AND THINK THAT I WOULD DO SOMETHING SO HEINOUS LIKE THAT? 280 00:38:01,512 --> 00:38:11,355 THAT'S PART OF THE TRAUMA FOR ME. >> WHEN YOU HEAR SOME OF OUR STORIES, DO YOU EVER, LIKE, 281 00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:19,163 BLAME US? >> LIKE, ME, BEING AN EXONEREE? >> YEAH? >> 282 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:26,037 DO YOU EVER SEE YOURSELF BLAMING THE VICTIMS FOR -- >> YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. 283 00:38:26,103 --> 00:38:32,576 >> THE NEXT MORNING, AS THEY GATHERED IN THE CIRCLE FOR THE THIRD AND FINAL DAY -- >> I FEEL BLESSED. 284 00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:44,021 >> I FEEL LIGHT AS A FEATHER. >> -- HER MOOD HAD SHIFTED DRAMATICALLY. >> I FEEL OPEN. 285 00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:51,195 >> I FEEL COURAGEOUS. >> I FEEL NURTURED. EVEN THOUGH IT'S PAINFUL TO LET IT OUT, I THINK YOU GUYS DO IT 286 00:38:51,262 --> 00:38:57,201 BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO HELP THE NEXT PERSON. AND IT HAS. >> SO, HOW DID THE RETREAT GO? 287 00:38:57,268 --> 00:39:03,074 >> VERY ENLIGHTENING. VERY POWERFUL. >> WE TOOK OFF THE MASK THAT EVERYBODY SEES. 288 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:14,251 >> WHAT QUESTIONS DID YOU ASK EACH OTHER, EXONEREES TO CRIME VICTIMS AND BACK AROUND? >> I ASKED, WHAT HAPPENED TO 289 00:39:14,318 --> 00:39:18,456 YOU? AND EVERYONE WAS HONEST. >> AND EVERYBODY WAS HONEST. I ASKED, RIGHT AWAY, I SHOOK 290 00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:24,495 MR. HOWARD'S HAND. AND I FEEL FOR THIS MAN. AND MY OTHER TWO FRIENDS BACK THERE THAT ARE EXONEREES. 291 00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:30,434 I SEE IT NOW BECAUSE WE ONLY LOOKED FROM OUR SIDE OF THE TABLE. WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT FROM THEIR 292 00:39:30,501 --> 00:39:35,773 SIDE. >> I HAD THAT FEAR, EVEN WHEN I CAME HERE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I'LL BE COMING 293 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:42,179 INTO HATE BECAUSE I WAS AN EXONEREE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY BELIEVED ME FOR, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS. 294 00:39:42,246 --> 00:39:50,221 >> I THINK WE BELIEVE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> WE DO. >> I HAD QUESTIONS MYSELF FOR AN 295 00:39:50,287 --> 00:39:56,660 EXONEREE. AND I WAS ABLE TO BUILD UP THE COURAGE TO EVEN ASK RAYMOND BECAUSE I STILL HOLD THIS GUILT. 296 00:39:56,727 --> 00:40:02,733 AND I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO LET IT GO AFTER TALKING TO HIM. I KNEW HE WAS SPEAKING FROM HIS HEART. 297 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:15,679 AND IT TOOK 30 YEARS FOR HIM TO LET ME GET THAT GUILT OFF OF ME. >> WOW. >> I THANK YOU. 298 00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:27,758 >> DO YOU HAVE ANY GUILT FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO RONALD? >> NO, NOT ANYMORE. I FEEL SO SAD THAT FOR 11 YEARS 299 00:40:27,825 --> 00:40:33,364 HE WAS IN PRISON FOR SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO. BUT I'M ALSO REALLY SAD THAT I GOT RAPED AT KNIFE POINT AND 300 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:39,403 CHASED AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE DARK WHILE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CLOTHES ON. I FEEL A DEEP AMOUNT OF SADNESS 301 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:45,009 FOR THESE CASES AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S IMPACTED BY THEM. >> MAY YOU KEEP SPREADING YOUR 302 00:40:45,075 --> 00:40:54,218 LOVE TO EVERYONE THAT NEEDS IT. >> SO, AS THE RETREAT DREW TO A CLOSE, THEY CLASPED HANDS AND SHARED WISHES FOR ONE ANOTHER. 303 00:40:54,285 --> 00:41:02,927 >> MAY YOU CONTINUE ON YOUR JOURNEY OF HEALING. >> WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR CASE THAT ALLOWED YOU TO HEAL? 304 00:41:02,993 --> 00:41:10,067 >> I THINK I'LL ALWAYS BE HEALING. BUT I THINK WHAT HAS HELPED ME MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THE 305 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:21,245 RELATIONSHIPS I BUILT ALONG THE WAY WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HARMED AND HURT JUST LIKE ME. >> BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPING OTHER 306 00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:27,151 PEOPLE. >> JENNIFER, MAY YOU ALWAYS BE IN OUR LIVES. MAY YOU ALWAYS BE COURAGEOUS. 307 00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:38,529 THANK YOU. >> I'M HELPING OTHER PEOPLE, BUT WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS THEY'RE ALSO HELPING ME. 308 00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:42,867 >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MOVE. >> THEY'RE HEALING. THEY ARE HEALING. AND I WANT TO WALK WITH THEM ON 309 00:41:42,933 --> 00:42:03,420 THAT JOURNEY. >>> "THE LAST MINUTE" OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, THERE FOR WHAT 310 00:42:03,487 --> 00:42:09,560 MATTERS. >>> NOW, AN UPDATE OF OUR STORY, AGENCY IN CRISIS, ABOUT THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS, 311 00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:17,034 PARTICULARLY ITS WOMEN'S PRISONS. THIS PAST MONDAY, FBI AGENTS RAIDED ONE OF THEM, FCI DUBLIN 312 00:42:17,101 --> 00:42:24,375 IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. SO NOTORIOUS FOR SEXUAL ABUSE AND RETALIATION AGAINST THOSE WHO SPEAK UP, IT IS KNOWN AS THE 313 00:42:24,441 --> 00:42:31,515 RAPE CLUB. WE ASKED BUREAU PRISONS DIRECTOR, COLETTE PETERS, IF THE GOVERNMENT OWES THE INMATES MORE 314 00:42:31,582 --> 00:42:37,755 THAN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. >> IS YOUR JOB TO APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN DUBLIN? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT MY JOB IS 315 00:42:37,821 --> 00:42:43,994 TO APOLOGIZE. IS IT HEARTBREAKING AND HORRENDOUS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU ARE 316 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:49,667 PROUD OF YOUR PROFESSION AS A CORRECTIONS PROFESSIONAL? ABSOLUTELY. >> THE BUREAU OF PRISONS STILL 317 00:42:49,733 --> 00:43:02,913 HASN'T PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED FOR THE ABUSE AT DUBLIN, BUT IT HAS REMOVED THE WARDEN AND THREE TOP