1 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:06,000 >>> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? >> UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,000 >>> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? >> UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,000 >>> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? >> UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,319 >>> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? >> UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. 5 00:00:19,386 --> 00:00:24,000 >> WE WATCHED A YOUNG DEMINER PROBING FOR A TRIP WIRE THAT COULD DETONATE A MINE NEARBY. RUSSIA HAS SEWN UKRAINE WITH 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,928 >> WE WATCHED A YOUNG DEMINER PROBING FOR A TRIP WIRE THAT COULD DETONATE A MINE NEARBY. RUSSIA HAS SEWN UKRAINE WITH 7 00:00:28,995 --> 00:00:30,000 MILLIONS OF MINES. SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. THE DAY BEFORE, ANOTHER DEMINER 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,000 MILLIONS OF MINES. SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. THE DAY BEFORE, ANOTHER DEMINER 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,571 MILLIONS OF MINES. SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. THE DAY BEFORE, ANOTHER DEMINER 10 00:00:38,638 --> 00:00:42,000 HAD BEEN KILLED. >>> THE KIND OF POCKET THERAPIST. >> AND YOU'LL BE AUTOMOBBLE TO 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,000 HAD BEEN KILLED. >>> THE KIND OF POCKET THERAPIST. >> AND YOU'LL BE AUTOMOBBLE TO 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,083 HAD BEEN KILLED. >>> THE KIND OF POCKET THERAPIST. >> AND YOU'LL BE AUTOMOBBLE TO 13 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:54,000 CONVERSE WITH IT. >> AN APP ON YOUR PHONE THAT USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO MANAGE PROBLEMS LIKE DEPRESSION 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,792 CONVERSE WITH IT. >> AN APP ON YOUR PHONE THAT USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO MANAGE PROBLEMS LIKE DEPRESSION 15 00:00:58,858 --> 00:01:00,000 AND ANXIETY. >> THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GREATER NEED, AND THE TOOLS AVAILABLE HAVE NEVER BEEN AS SOPHISTICATED 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,562 AND ANXIETY. >> THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GREATER NEED, AND THE TOOLS AVAILABLE HAVE NEVER BEEN AS SOPHISTICATED 17 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:06,000 AS THEY ARE NOW. >> REALLY? COMPUTER PSYCHIATRY? COME ON. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,936 AS THEY ARE NOW. >> REALLY? COMPUTER PSYCHIATRY? COME ON. 19 00:01:10,003 --> 00:01:12,000 >>> WHAT KIND OF YANKEES FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD TEN WORLD SERIES RINGS. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,000 >>> WHAT KIND OF YANKEES FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD TEN WORLD SERIES RINGS. 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,379 >>> WHAT KIND OF YANKEES FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD TEN WORLD SERIES RINGS. 22 00:01:19,446 --> 00:01:24,000 YOGI WORE ONE AND KEPT THE OTHER NINE HERE. THAT IS UNTIL A RAINY OCTOBER NIGHT IN 2014. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,085 YOGI WORE ONE AND KEPT THE OTHER NINE HERE. THAT IS UNTIL A RAINY OCTOBER NIGHT IN 2014. 24 00:01:26,152 --> 00:01:30,000 >> WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE RINGS? >> CUTTED THEM, MELTED THEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,790 >> WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE RINGS? >> CUTTED THEM, MELTED THEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 26 00:01:30,857 --> 00:01:36,000 THIS MINOR LEAGUE THIEF MELTED DOWN PRICELESS WORLD SERIES RINGS FOR SOME CASH. >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,467 THIS MINOR LEAGUE THIEF MELTED DOWN PRICELESS WORLD SERIES RINGS FOR SOME CASH. >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 28 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:42,000 >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,807 >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. 30 00:01:47,874 --> 00:01:48,000 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT APPROXIMATE 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT APPROXIMATE 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,000 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT APPROXIMATE 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,688 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT APPROXIMATE 34 00:02:01,754 --> 00:02:06,000 >>> NO MATTER HOW RUSSIA'S WAR IN UKRAINE ENDS, DR. YURIY KUZNETZOV WILL BE BATTLING VLADIMIR PUTIN'S MADNESS FOR 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,996 >>> NO MATTER HOW RUSSIA'S WAR IN UKRAINE ENDS, DR. YURIY KUZNETZOV WILL BE BATTLING VLADIMIR PUTIN'S MADNESS FOR 36 00:02:10,063 --> 00:02:12,000 YEARS. KUZNETZOV IS A UKRAINIAN SURGEON AND A NATIONAL HERO, WHO STAYED BESIDE HIS PATIENTS, AS THEY 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,370 YEARS. KUZNETZOV IS A UKRAINIAN SURGEON AND A NATIONAL HERO, WHO STAYED BESIDE HIS PATIENTS, AS THEY 38 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:18,000 WERE ATTACKED. NOW HEROISM IS A VIRTUE THAT MUST ENDURE. HIS CITY WAS LIBERATED, BUT DR. 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,000 WERE ATTACKED. NOW HEROISM IS A VIRTUE THAT MUST ENDURE. HIS CITY WAS LIBERATED, BUT DR. 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,712 WERE ATTACKED. NOW HEROISM IS A VIRTUE THAT MUST ENDURE. HIS CITY WAS LIBERATED, BUT DR. 41 00:02:25,778 --> 00:02:30,000 KUZNETZOV SEES VICTIMS EVERY WEEK OR SO, CIVILIANS WHO STEP ON ONE OF THE MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN LAND MINES ACROSS ABOUT 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,888 KUZNETZOV SEES VICTIMS EVERY WEEK OR SO, CIVILIANS WHO STEP ON ONE OF THE MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN LAND MINES ACROSS ABOUT 43 00:02:34,954 --> 00:02:36,000 A THIRD OF UKRAINE. THERE'S A MASSIVE EFFORT TO CLEAR THE MINES, BUT THAT WILL TAKE A GENERATION OR MORE. 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,094 A THIRD OF UKRAINE. THERE'S A MASSIVE EFFORT TO CLEAR THE MINES, BUT THAT WILL TAKE A GENERATION OR MORE. 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,000 UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE DR. KUZNETZOV WITH HEALING HANDS AND EYES THAT HAVE SEEN TOO MUCH. >> HALF HIS LIFE HE'S DEVOTED TO 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,000 UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE DR. KUZNETZOV WITH HEALING HANDS AND EYES THAT HAVE SEEN TOO MUCH. >> HALF HIS LIFE HE'S DEVOTED TO 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:54,000 UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE DR. KUZNETZOV WITH HEALING HANDS AND EYES THAT HAVE SEEN TOO MUCH. >> HALF HIS LIFE HE'S DEVOTED TO 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,509 UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE DR. KUZNETZOV WITH HEALING HANDS AND EYES THAT HAVE SEEN TOO MUCH. >> HALF HIS LIFE HE'S DEVOTED TO 49 00:02:56,576 --> 00:03:00,000 CENTRAL HOSPITAL. AND HERE IN ITS BASEMENT WITH PUTIN'S BOMBS OVERHEAD, ALL HE'D BECOME IN 52 YEARS WAS LAY DOWN 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,117 CENTRAL HOSPITAL. AND HERE IN ITS BASEMENT WITH PUTIN'S BOMBS OVERHEAD, ALL HE'D BECOME IN 52 YEARS WAS LAY DOWN 51 00:03:04,183 --> 00:03:06,000 IN SERVICE TO HIS HOME. >> Translator: WE DIDN'T IMAGINE UNTIL THE END THAT RUSSIA WOULD ATTACK OUR COUNTRY. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,000 IN SERVICE TO HIS HOME. >> Translator: WE DIDN'T IMAGINE UNTIL THE END THAT RUSSIA WOULD ATTACK OUR COUNTRY. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,597 IN SERVICE TO HIS HOME. >> Translator: WE DIDN'T IMAGINE UNTIL THE END THAT RUSSIA WOULD ATTACK OUR COUNTRY. 54 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:18,000 WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN A BASEMENT AT NIGHT AND A PLANE IS FLYING OVER YOU, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHETHER 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,436 WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN A BASEMENT AT NIGHT AND A PLANE IS FLYING OVER YOU, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT WHETHER 56 00:03:23,503 --> 00:03:24,000 YOU WOULD WAKE UP TO SEE ANOTHER DAY. >> IN 2022, THE BASEMENT BECAME DR. KUZNETZOV'S OPERATING ROOM. 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:30,000 YOU WOULD WAKE UP TO SEE ANOTHER DAY. >> IN 2022, THE BASEMENT BECAME DR. KUZNETZOV'S OPERATING ROOM. 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,579 YOU WOULD WAKE UP TO SEE ANOTHER DAY. >> IN 2022, THE BASEMENT BECAME DR. KUZNETZOV'S OPERATING ROOM. 59 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:36,000 THAT'S HIM DRESSED IN WHITE. THE WOUNDED WERE ENDLESS. A CLOSE FRIEND'S WIFE HE COULD NOT SAVE, AND THIS MAN, WHO WAS 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,453 THAT'S HIM DRESSED IN WHITE. THE WOUNDED WERE ENDLESS. A CLOSE FRIEND'S WIFE HE COULD NOT SAVE, AND THIS MAN, WHO WAS 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,000 SHOT AND LIVED. >> DID YOU SAVE MORE PATIENTS THAN YOU LOST? >> Translator: WE SAVED 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,000 SHOT AND LIVED. >> DID YOU SAVE MORE PATIENTS THAN YOU LOST? >> Translator: WE SAVED 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,294 SHOT AND LIVED. >> DID YOU SAVE MORE PATIENTS THAN YOU LOST? >> Translator: WE SAVED 64 00:03:48,361 --> 00:03:54,000 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PEOPLE, DEFINITELY. >> MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES EVACUATED, AND YOU DID NOT. 65 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:54,467 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PEOPLE, DEFINITELY. >> MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES EVACUATED, AND YOU DID NOT. 66 00:03:54,534 --> 00:04:00,000 I WONDER WHY YOU STAYED. >> Translator: WHEN YOU HAVE PATIENTS AND YOU'RE THE ONLY DOCTOR OR THE ONLY PERSON WHO 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,811 I WONDER WHY YOU STAYED. >> Translator: WHEN YOU HAVE PATIENTS AND YOU'RE THE ONLY DOCTOR OR THE ONLY PERSON WHO 68 00:04:04,877 --> 00:04:06,000 CAN TREAT THEM, I -- I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD LEAVE. >> HE COULD NOT LEAVE IZIUM. HIS CITY OF 40,000 WAS OCCUPIED 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,000 CAN TREAT THEM, I -- I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD LEAVE. >> HE COULD NOT LEAVE IZIUM. HIS CITY OF 40,000 WAS OCCUPIED 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,422 CAN TREAT THEM, I -- I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD LEAVE. >> HE COULD NOT LEAVE IZIUM. HIS CITY OF 40,000 WAS OCCUPIED 71 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,000 FOR SIX MONTHS. THE RUSSIANS LAID LAND MINES HERE, AS THEY RAN FROM UKRAINE'S COUNTERATTACK. 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,363 FOR SIX MONTHS. THE RUSSIANS LAID LAND MINES HERE, AS THEY RAN FROM UKRAINE'S COUNTERATTACK. 73 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:24,000 PUTIN'S UNPROVOKED WAR ON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE DESTROYED 80% OF IZIUM AND KILLED 1,000. LEAVING APARTMENT BUILDINGS 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,000 PUTIN'S UNPROVOKED WAR ON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE DESTROYED 80% OF IZIUM AND KILLED 1,000. LEAVING APARTMENT BUILDINGS 75 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,000 PUTIN'S UNPROVOKED WAR ON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE DESTROYED 80% OF IZIUM AND KILLED 1,000. LEAVING APARTMENT BUILDINGS 76 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,144 PUTIN'S UNPROVOKED WAR ON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE DESTROYED 80% OF IZIUM AND KILLED 1,000. LEAVING APARTMENT BUILDINGS 77 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:42,000 CLEAVED IN TWO AND THIS SCHOOL, BUILT IN 1882, A HOLLOW CORPSE. THE PEOPLE OF IZIUM CLOTHE THEMSELVES IN LIBERATION, AND 78 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,000 CLEAVED IN TWO AND THIS SCHOOL, BUILT IN 1882, A HOLLOW CORPSE. THE PEOPLE OF IZIUM CLOTHE THEMSELVES IN LIBERATION, AND 79 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,125 CLEAVED IN TWO AND THIS SCHOOL, BUILT IN 1882, A HOLLOW CORPSE. THE PEOPLE OF IZIUM CLOTHE THEMSELVES IN LIBERATION, AND 80 00:04:52,191 --> 00:04:54,000 YET THEY ARE NOT ENTIRELY FREE. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] GF 81 00:04:54,000 --> 00:05:00,000 YET THEY ARE NOT ENTIRELY FREE. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] GF 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,467 YET THEY ARE NOT ENTIRELY FREE. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] GF 83 00:05:01,534 --> 00:05:06,000 [ SOUND OF ARTILLERY ] >> DEMINING TEAMS ARE STILL FIGHTING RUSSIA HERE. IZIUM, 20 MILES FROM THE FRONT, 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,240 [ SOUND OF ARTILLERY ] >> DEMINING TEAMS ARE STILL FIGHTING RUSSIA HERE. IZIUM, 20 MILES FROM THE FRONT, 85 00:05:07,306 --> 00:05:12,000 IS ONE OF THE WORST AREAS FOR MINES AND UNEXPLODED ORDINANCE. THROUGHOUT UKRAINE, MORE THAN 1,000 CIVILIANS HAD BEEN WOUNDED 86 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,449 IS ONE OF THE WORST AREAS FOR MINES AND UNEXPLODED ORDINANCE. THROUGHOUT UKRAINE, MORE THAN 1,000 CIVILIANS HAD BEEN WOUNDED 87 00:05:16,516 --> 00:05:18,000 BY MINES. LIDIA BOROVA, A 70-YEAR-OLD WIDOW, WAS PICKING MUSHROOMS IN A FOREST. 88 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,000 BY MINES. LIDIA BOROVA, A 70-YEAR-OLD WIDOW, WAS PICKING MUSHROOMS IN A FOREST. 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,691 BY MINES. LIDIA BOROVA, A 70-YEAR-OLD WIDOW, WAS PICKING MUSHROOMS IN A FOREST. 90 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:30,000 >> Translator: I TURNED BY THE TREE, AND THEN THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION. I LOOKED DOWN AT MYSELF, AND I 91 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,597 >> Translator: I TURNED BY THE TREE, AND THEN THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION. I LOOKED DOWN AT MYSELF, AND I 92 00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:36,000 WAS BLEEDING. MY ARM WAS INJURED. MY LEG WAS INJURED. I WAS LOSING STRENGTH. 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,038 WAS BLEEDING. MY ARM WAS INJURED. MY LEG WAS INJURED. I WAS LOSING STRENGTH. 94 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:42,000 >> HER RIGHT FOOT AND ANKLE WERE RIPPED AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST DIFFICULT THING IS TO 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:48,000 >> HER RIGHT FOOT AND ANKLE WERE RIPPED AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST DIFFICULT THING IS TO 96 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,783 >> HER RIGHT FOOT AND ANKLE WERE RIPPED AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST DIFFICULT THING IS TO 97 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:54,000 PERSUADE A PATIENT THAT THEIR LEG NEEDS TO BE AMPUTATED. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THE LEG IS NO GOOD, 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,625 PERSUADE A PATIENT THAT THEIR LEG NEEDS TO BE AMPUTATED. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THE LEG IS NO GOOD, 99 00:05:59,692 --> 00:06:00,000 NO GOOD TO USE. HE TOLD US A PROSTHETIC IS ULTIMATELY EASIER TO LIVE WITH. >> Translator: DR. KUZNETZOV 100 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:06,000 NO GOOD TO USE. HE TOLD US A PROSTHETIC IS ULTIMATELY EASIER TO LIVE WITH. >> Translator: DR. KUZNETZOV 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,971 NO GOOD TO USE. HE TOLD US A PROSTHETIC IS ULTIMATELY EASIER TO LIVE WITH. >> Translator: DR. KUZNETZOV 102 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:18,000 SAVED ME, SHE TOLD US. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH BLOOD I LOST. I DON'T KNOW HOW I MANAGED TO 103 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,279 SAVED ME, SHE TOLD US. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH BLOOD I LOST. I DON'T KNOW HOW I MANAGED TO 104 00:06:20,346 --> 00:06:24,000 SURVIVE. >> IHOR BOGORAZ WAS WITH HIS WIFE IN THEIR GARDEN. THEY FOUND 12 MINES, BUT THERE 105 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,000 SURVIVE. >> IHOR BOGORAZ WAS WITH HIS WIFE IN THEIR GARDEN. THEY FOUND 12 MINES, BUT THERE 106 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,256 SURVIVE. >> IHOR BOGORAZ WAS WITH HIS WIFE IN THEIR GARDEN. THEY FOUND 12 MINES, BUT THERE 107 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:35,928 WERE 13. >> Translator: I DECIDED TO MOW THE WEEDS, HE TOLD US. AND ONE MINE WAS UNDER MY FOOT. 108 00:06:35,995 --> 00:06:36,000 I STEPPED ON IT, AND IT EXPLODED INSTANTLY. AND THAT'S IT. NO LEG. 109 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,000 I STEPPED ON IT, AND IT EXPLODED INSTANTLY. AND THAT'S IT. NO LEG. 110 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,406 I STEPPED ON IT, AND IT EXPLODED INSTANTLY. AND THAT'S IT. NO LEG. 111 00:06:47,473 --> 00:06:48,000 >> SERHII NIKOLAIV WAS RECOVERING GRAPEVINES FOR THE SPRING. IF IT HAD BEEN GREEN, HE TOLD 112 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,000 >> SERHII NIKOLAIV WAS RECOVERING GRAPEVINES FOR THE SPRING. IF IT HAD BEEN GREEN, HE TOLD 113 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,985 >> SERHII NIKOLAIV WAS RECOVERING GRAPEVINES FOR THE SPRING. IF IT HAD BEEN GREEN, HE TOLD 114 00:06:59,051 --> 00:07:00,000 US, I WOULD HAVE NOTICED IT. BUT IT WAS BROWN. I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT BLENDED IN WITH THE LEAVES. 115 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,756 US, I WOULD HAVE NOTICED IT. BUT IT WAS BROWN. I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT BLENDED IN WITH THE LEAVES. 116 00:07:03,823 --> 00:07:06,000 I STEPPED ON IT, AND I KNEW RIGHT AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, THE MAJORITY ARE THOSE WHO STEPPED ON PEDAL 117 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,000 I STEPPED ON IT, AND I KNEW RIGHT AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, THE MAJORITY ARE THOSE WHO STEPPED ON PEDAL 118 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,000 I STEPPED ON IT, AND I KNEW RIGHT AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, THE MAJORITY ARE THOSE WHO STEPPED ON PEDAL 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,139 I STEPPED ON IT, AND I KNEW RIGHT AWAY. KUZNETZOV SAID, THE MAJORITY ARE THOSE WHO STEPPED ON PEDAL 120 00:07:20,206 --> 00:07:24,000 MINES, OR ANTI-PERSONNEL MINES. THE PERSON WHO INVENTED THEM WAS AN EVIL GENIUS BECAUSE THEY ONLY WEIGH TWO OUNCES, BUT WHAT THEY 121 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,514 MINES, OR ANTI-PERSONNEL MINES. THE PERSON WHO INVENTED THEM WAS AN EVIL GENIUS BECAUSE THEY ONLY WEIGH TWO OUNCES, BUT WHAT THEY 122 00:07:28,581 --> 00:07:30,000 CAN DO WHEN TRIGGERED IS TERRIFIED. PEDAL MINES, 5 INCHES LONG FLUTTER FROM AIRCRAFT BY THE 123 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,000 CAN DO WHEN TRIGGERED IS TERRIFIED. PEDAL MINES, 5 INCHES LONG FLUTTER FROM AIRCRAFT BY THE 124 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,389 CAN DO WHEN TRIGGERED IS TERRIFIED. PEDAL MINES, 5 INCHES LONG FLUTTER FROM AIRCRAFT BY THE 125 00:07:36,455 --> 00:07:42,000 THOUSANDS LIKE FLOWER PETALS. 11 POUNDS OF PRESSURE WILL SET THEM OFF. VASYL SOLYANIK FOUND THEM ON HIS 126 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,000 THOUSANDS LIKE FLOWER PETALS. 11 POUNDS OF PRESSURE WILL SET THEM OFF. VASYL SOLYANIK FOUND THEM ON HIS 127 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,167 THOUSANDS LIKE FLOWER PETALS. 11 POUNDS OF PRESSURE WILL SET THEM OFF. VASYL SOLYANIK FOUND THEM ON HIS 128 00:07:48,234 --> 00:07:54,000 ROOF AND IN HIS GARDEN. THERE'S 18 HERE, HE TOLD US, BUT IN ALL, THERE WERE OVER 50. HE SHOWED US HIS VIDEO. 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,741 ROOF AND IN HIS GARDEN. THERE'S 18 HERE, HE TOLD US, BUT IN ALL, THERE WERE OVER 50. HE SHOWED US HIS VIDEO. 130 00:07:55,808 --> 00:08:00,000 THAT'S A PETAL MINE RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE SO COMMON THAT WE WERE TOLD THE STORY OF A 70-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO GATHERED THEM IN A 131 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:06,000 THAT'S A PETAL MINE RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE SO COMMON THAT WE WERE TOLD THE STORY OF A 70-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO GATHERED THEM IN A 132 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,819 THAT'S A PETAL MINE RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE SO COMMON THAT WE WERE TOLD THE STORY OF A 70-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO GATHERED THEM IN A 133 00:08:06,886 --> 00:08:12,000 BASKET AND TOOK THEM TO A POLICE STATION. SOLYANIK TOLD US, THERE'S SOME LEFT IN THE BUSHES OVER HERE, SO 134 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,793 BASKET AND TOOK THEM TO A POLICE STATION. SOLYANIK TOLD US, THERE'S SOME LEFT IN THE BUSHES OVER HERE, SO 135 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:18,000 DON'T WALK AROUND THERE. HE DIALLED 101, AND EMERGENCY SERVICES SENT DEMINERS IVAN SHEPELEV AND IHOR OVCHARUK. 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,000 DON'T WALK AROUND THERE. HE DIALLED 101, AND EMERGENCY SERVICES SENT DEMINERS IVAN SHEPELEV AND IHOR OVCHARUK. 137 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,908 DON'T WALK AROUND THERE. HE DIALLED 101, AND EMERGENCY SERVICES SENT DEMINERS IVAN SHEPELEV AND IHOR OVCHARUK. 138 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:30,000 WE ENCOUNTER EVERY TYPE OF MUNITION, OVCHARUK TOLD US, ANTI-INFANTRY AND ANTI-TANK MINES, MORTARS, ARTILLERY 139 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:36,000 WE ENCOUNTER EVERY TYPE OF MUNITION, OVCHARUK TOLD US, ANTI-INFANTRY AND ANTI-TANK MINES, MORTARS, ARTILLERY 140 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,718 WE ENCOUNTER EVERY TYPE OF MUNITION, OVCHARUK TOLD US, ANTI-INFANTRY AND ANTI-TANK MINES, MORTARS, ARTILLERY 141 00:08:38,784 --> 00:08:42,000 SHELLS, ROCKETS. IT'S ALL HERE. AT SOLYANIK'S HOME, A SWEEP REVEALED AN UNEXPLODED CLUSTER 142 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,000 SHELLS, ROCKETS. IT'S ALL HERE. AT SOLYANIK'S HOME, A SWEEP REVEALED AN UNEXPLODED CLUSTER 143 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,831 SHELLS, ROCKETS. IT'S ALL HERE. AT SOLYANIK'S HOME, A SWEEP REVEALED AN UNEXPLODED CLUSTER 144 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:54,000 BOMB. THOSE ARE TRICKY, SO THEY BLEW IT IN PLACE. IVAN SHEPELEV TOLD US, AS THE 145 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:00,000 BOMB. THOSE ARE TRICKY, SO THEY BLEW IT IN PLACE. IVAN SHEPELEV TOLD US, AS THE 146 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,809 BOMB. THOSE ARE TRICKY, SO THEY BLEW IT IN PLACE. IVAN SHEPELEV TOLD US, AS THE 147 00:09:03,876 --> 00:09:06,000 RUSSIANS FLED, THEY ALSO LEFT BOOBY TRAPS. WE HAVE SEEN CASES, UNFORTUNATELY, WHERE EXPLOSIVES 148 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:12,000 RUSSIANS FLED, THEY ALSO LEFT BOOBY TRAPS. WE HAVE SEEN CASES, UNFORTUNATELY, WHERE EXPLOSIVES 149 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,686 RUSSIANS FLED, THEY ALSO LEFT BOOBY TRAPS. WE HAVE SEEN CASES, UNFORTUNATELY, WHERE EXPLOSIVES 150 00:09:13,753 --> 00:09:18,000 WERE FOUND IN CIVILIAN HOMES, OVCHARUK SAID. MY TEAM ALSO HAD TO WORK ON REMOVING OUR DEAD UKRAINIAN 151 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 WERE FOUND IN CIVILIAN HOMES, OVCHARUK SAID. MY TEAM ALSO HAD TO WORK ON REMOVING OUR DEAD UKRAINIAN 152 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,132 WERE FOUND IN CIVILIAN HOMES, OVCHARUK SAID. MY TEAM ALSO HAD TO WORK ON REMOVING OUR DEAD UKRAINIAN 153 00:09:26,198 --> 00:09:30,000 SOLDIERS WHOSE BODIES HAD BEEN MINED. IN 2022, IHOR OVCHARUK'S KNEECAP WAS SHATTERED WHEN A FELLOW 154 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:36,000 SOLDIERS WHOSE BODIES HAD BEEN MINED. IN 2022, IHOR OVCHARUK'S KNEECAP WAS SHATTERED WHEN A FELLOW 155 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,410 SOLDIERS WHOSE BODIES HAD BEEN MINED. IN 2022, IHOR OVCHARUK'S KNEECAP WAS SHATTERED WHEN A FELLOW 156 00:09:37,476 --> 00:09:42,000 DEMINER STEPPED ON A MINE AND LOST HIS FOOT. SHEPELEV TOLD US, WE KNOW EVERY EXPLOSIVE WE REMOVE MEANS THAT 157 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,851 DEMINER STEPPED ON A MINE AND LOST HIS FOOT. SHEPELEV TOLD US, WE KNOW EVERY EXPLOSIVE WE REMOVE MEANS THAT 158 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:48,000 SOMEONE'S LIFE IS SAVED. A FEW WEEKS AFTER OUR VISIT, A RUSSIAN MISSILE WRECKED THE FIRE STATION WHERE THEY'RE BASED. 159 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,000 SOMEONE'S LIFE IS SAVED. A FEW WEEKS AFTER OUR VISIT, A RUSSIAN MISSILE WRECKED THE FIRE STATION WHERE THEY'RE BASED. 160 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,697 SOMEONE'S LIFE IS SAVED. A FEW WEEKS AFTER OUR VISIT, A RUSSIAN MISSILE WRECKED THE FIRE STATION WHERE THEY'RE BASED. 161 00:09:57,763 --> 00:10:00,000 SOME WERE INJURED BUT NOT SHEPELEV OR OVCHARUK. >> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? 162 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,771 SOME WERE INJURED BUT NOT SHEPELEV OR OVCHARUK. >> WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE MINE THREAT IN UKRAINE? 163 00:10:05,838 --> 00:10:06,000 >> I THINK THE SCOPE IS UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. >> PETE SMITH HEADS DEMINING HERE FOR THE HALO TRUST, A 164 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,000 >> I THINK THE SCOPE IS UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. >> PETE SMITH HEADS DEMINING HERE FOR THE HALO TRUST, A 165 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,212 >> I THINK THE SCOPE IS UNRECOGNIZABLE IN MODERN TIMES. >> PETE SMITH HEADS DEMINING HERE FOR THE HALO TRUST, A 166 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:18,000 CHARITY FOUNDED IN 1988 TO DEMINE WAR ZONES. SMITH WAS 33 YEARS IN THE BRITISH ARMY AND AWARDED BY 167 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,855 CHARITY FOUNDED IN 1988 TO DEMINE WAR ZONES. SMITH WAS 33 YEARS IN THE BRITISH ARMY AND AWARDED BY 168 00:10:22,922 --> 00:10:24,000 QUEEN ELIZABETH FOR DISARMING AN IRA TIME BOMB IN A TRAIN STATION. TODAY, HE SAYS, UKRAINE IS THE 169 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:30,000 QUEEN ELIZABETH FOR DISARMING AN IRA TIME BOMB IN A TRAIN STATION. TODAY, HE SAYS, UKRAINE IS THE 170 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,563 QUEEN ELIZABETH FOR DISARMING AN IRA TIME BOMB IN A TRAIN STATION. TODAY, HE SAYS, UKRAINE IS THE 171 00:10:30,629 --> 00:10:36,000 MOST HEAVILY MINED COUNTRY. >> IN SOME AREAS, THE MINE FIELDS ARE THREE OR FOUR MINES DEEP, IN AREAS, MAYBE A DOZEN 172 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,406 MOST HEAVILY MINED COUNTRY. >> IN SOME AREAS, THE MINE FIELDS ARE THREE OR FOUR MINES DEEP, IN AREAS, MAYBE A DOZEN 173 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:42,000 MINES DEEP. BUT THAT'S JUST THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE. THEN SEVERAL KILOMETERS BEHIND 174 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,412 MINES DEEP. BUT THAT'S JUST THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE. THEN SEVERAL KILOMETERS BEHIND 175 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:48,000 THAT, THERE ARE OTHER LAYERS OF MINE FIELDS AS WELL. >> SMITH TOOK US TO A FARM SEWN WITH RUSSIAN ANTI-TANK MINES. 176 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,419 THAT, THERE ARE OTHER LAYERS OF MINE FIELDS AS WELL. >> SMITH TOOK US TO A FARM SEWN WITH RUSSIAN ANTI-TANK MINES. 177 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,000 YOU HAVE TO STEP CAREFULLY. RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER IS A MINE PACKED WITH 17 POUNDS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVE. 178 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,000 YOU HAVE TO STEP CAREFULLY. RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER IS A MINE PACKED WITH 17 POUNDS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVE. 179 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,229 YOU HAVE TO STEP CAREFULLY. RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER IS A MINE PACKED WITH 17 POUNDS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVE. 180 00:11:03,295 --> 00:11:06,000 WITH THREE WEEKS OF TRAINING BEHIND HER, YULIA YAROSHCHUK WAS PROBING FOR ANY TRIP WIRE THAT WOULD DETONATE A MINE NEAR HER. 181 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,000 WITH THREE WEEKS OF TRAINING BEHIND HER, YULIA YAROSHCHUK WAS PROBING FOR ANY TRIP WIRE THAT WOULD DETONATE A MINE NEAR HER. 182 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,209 WITH THREE WEEKS OF TRAINING BEHIND HER, YULIA YAROSHCHUK WAS PROBING FOR ANY TRIP WIRE THAT WOULD DETONATE A MINE NEAR HER. 183 00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:18,000 SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. ONLY THE DAY BEFORE, A HALO DEMINER WAS KILLED AND TWO WERE 184 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,000 SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. ONLY THE DAY BEFORE, A HALO DEMINER WAS KILLED AND TWO WERE 185 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:30,000 SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. ONLY THE DAY BEFORE, A HALO DEMINER WAS KILLED AND TWO WERE 186 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,590 SHE THREADED THE GRASS, FEELING FOR THE SLIGHTEST RESISTANCE. ONLY THE DAY BEFORE, A HALO DEMINER WAS KILLED AND TWO WERE 187 00:11:31,657 --> 00:11:36,000 WOUNDED IN ANOTHER PART OF UKRAINE. >> DOING THIS BY HAND WITH THAT WAND, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU 188 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,299 WOUNDED IN ANOTHER PART OF UKRAINE. >> DOING THIS BY HAND WITH THAT WAND, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU 189 00:11:40,366 --> 00:11:42,000 HAVE AN AWFULLY BIG FIELD TO COVER. SHE SAID, WELL, OF COURSE IT'LL BE A VERY LONG PROCESS. 190 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,000 HAVE AN AWFULLY BIG FIELD TO COVER. SHE SAID, WELL, OF COURSE IT'LL BE A VERY LONG PROCESS. 191 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,909 HAVE AN AWFULLY BIG FIELD TO COVER. SHE SAID, WELL, OF COURSE IT'LL BE A VERY LONG PROCESS. 192 00:11:49,975 --> 00:11:54,000 AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'LL TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS. EACH DAY OF WAR MEANS YEARS OF DEMINING. 193 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,917 AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'LL TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS. EACH DAY OF WAR MEANS YEARS OF DEMINING. 194 00:11:57,983 --> 00:12:00,000 >> WHY DO YOU DO THIS WORK? >> Translator: I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT. I WANTED TO DO IT. 195 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,890 >> WHY DO YOU DO THIS WORK? >> Translator: I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT. I WANTED TO DO IT. 196 00:12:04,957 --> 00:12:06,000 THIS IS MY CONTRIBUTION TO VICTORY. >> WILL UKRAINE EVER BE WITHOUT MINES? 197 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:11,263 THIS IS MY CONTRIBUTION TO VICTORY. >> WILL UKRAINE EVER BE WITHOUT MINES? 198 00:12:11,330 --> 00:12:12,000 >> I THINK WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY TIME IN UKRAINE IS THE INNOVATION, THE PATRIOTISM, AND JUST THE SHEER WILL OF THE 199 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,000 >> I THINK WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY TIME IN UKRAINE IS THE INNOVATION, THE PATRIOTISM, AND JUST THE SHEER WILL OF THE 200 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,573 >> I THINK WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY TIME IN UKRAINE IS THE INNOVATION, THE PATRIOTISM, AND JUST THE SHEER WILL OF THE 201 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,000 PEOPLE THAT I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE LAST MINE FROM UKRAINE. >> DOES THIS WAR MAKE ANY SENSE 202 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,614 PEOPLE THAT I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE LAST MINE FROM UKRAINE. >> DOES THIS WAR MAKE ANY SENSE 203 00:12:28,681 --> 00:12:30,000 TO YOU? >> Translator: NOT TO A SINGLE PERSON HERE OR ANYWHERE, SERHII NIKOLAIV SAID. 204 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:36,000 TO YOU? >> Translator: NOT TO A SINGLE PERSON HERE OR ANYWHERE, SERHII NIKOLAIV SAID. 205 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:42,000 TO YOU? >> Translator: NOT TO A SINGLE PERSON HERE OR ANYWHERE, SERHII NIKOLAIV SAID. 206 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,632 TO YOU? >> Translator: NOT TO A SINGLE PERSON HERE OR ANYWHERE, SERHII NIKOLAIV SAID. 207 00:12:46,699 --> 00:12:48,000 WHAT KIND OF MIND -- WHAT KIND OF MORON OR IDIOT DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO EVEN WISH SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON YOUR ENEMIES? 208 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,000 WHAT KIND OF MIND -- WHAT KIND OF MORON OR IDIOT DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO EVEN WISH SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON YOUR ENEMIES? 209 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,206 WHAT KIND OF MIND -- WHAT KIND OF MORON OR IDIOT DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO EVEN WISH SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON YOUR ENEMIES? 210 00:12:54,273 --> 00:13:00,000 YOU CAN'T. EVEN NOW SOMEONE COULD DROP A FORK OR A SPOON, AND IT MAKES A LOUD NOISE. 211 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,479 YOU CAN'T. EVEN NOW SOMEONE COULD DROP A FORK OR A SPOON, AND IT MAKES A LOUD NOISE. 212 00:13:00,546 --> 00:13:06,000 AND IN YOUR SOUL, YOU FEEL PAIN AND BITTERNESS AND FEAR. IT'S A REAL HORROR. MY SISTER-IN-LAW WAS RIPPED 213 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,000 AND IN YOUR SOUL, YOU FEEL PAIN AND BITTERNESS AND FEAR. IT'S A REAL HORROR. MY SISTER-IN-LAW WAS RIPPED 214 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,792 AND IN YOUR SOUL, YOU FEEL PAIN AND BITTERNESS AND FEAR. IT'S A REAL HORROR. MY SISTER-IN-LAW WAS RIPPED 215 00:13:13,859 --> 00:13:18,000 APART BY A MINE IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES. >> OF ALL OF VLADIMIR PUTIN'S 216 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,000 APART BY A MINE IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES. >> OF ALL OF VLADIMIR PUTIN'S 217 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,542 APART BY A MINE IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES. >> OF ALL OF VLADIMIR PUTIN'S 218 00:13:29,608 --> 00:13:30,000 WAR CRIMES IN UKRAINE, ONE WAS THE BOMBING OF IZIUM'S CENTRAL HOSPITAL. KUZNETZOV TOLD US, AFTER THIS 219 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,000 WAR CRIMES IN UKRAINE, ONE WAS THE BOMBING OF IZIUM'S CENTRAL HOSPITAL. KUZNETZOV TOLD US, AFTER THIS 220 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,085 WAR CRIMES IN UKRAINE, ONE WAS THE BOMBING OF IZIUM'S CENTRAL HOSPITAL. KUZNETZOV TOLD US, AFTER THIS 221 00:13:40,152 --> 00:13:42,000 PART OF THE HOSPITAL WAS DAMAGED, A LOT OF MEDICAL SERVICES SIMPLY BECAME UNAVAILABLE. 222 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,492 PART OF THE HOSPITAL WAS DAMAGED, A LOT OF MEDICAL SERVICES SIMPLY BECAME UNAVAILABLE. 223 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,000 HERE, WE HAD BOTH INTENSIVE CARE AND THREE OPERATING ROOMS. WHEN YURIY KUZNETZOV WAS 14 YEARS OLD, HIS GRANDMOTHER DIED 224 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,000 HERE, WE HAD BOTH INTENSIVE CARE AND THREE OPERATING ROOMS. WHEN YURIY KUZNETZOV WAS 14 YEARS OLD, HIS GRANDMOTHER DIED 225 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,971 HERE, WE HAD BOTH INTENSIVE CARE AND THREE OPERATING ROOMS. WHEN YURIY KUZNETZOV WAS 14 YEARS OLD, HIS GRANDMOTHER DIED 226 00:13:59,038 --> 00:14:00,000 IN HIS ARMS. HE TOLD US THAT'S WHY HE BECAME A DOCTOR. AND WE SUSPECT THAT'S WHY HE 227 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,377 IN HIS ARMS. HE TOLD US THAT'S WHY HE BECAME A DOCTOR. AND WE SUSPECT THAT'S WHY HE 228 00:14:05,444 --> 00:14:06,000 STAYED THROUGH THE BOMBARDMENT AND OCCUPATION AND THE BATTLE OF THE MINES. >> WHEN A TOWN LOSES ITS 229 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,000 STAYED THROUGH THE BOMBARDMENT AND OCCUPATION AND THE BATTLE OF THE MINES. >> WHEN A TOWN LOSES ITS 230 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,486 STAYED THROUGH THE BOMBARDMENT AND OCCUPATION AND THE BATTLE OF THE MINES. >> WHEN A TOWN LOSES ITS 231 00:14:14,553 --> 00:14:18,000 HOSPITAL, IT DOESN'T JUST LOSE THE MEDICAL CARE, IT LOSES HOPE. >> Translator: THE BEST PRAISE FOR ME WAS WHEN A WOMAN TOLD ME 232 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,000 HOSPITAL, IT DOESN'T JUST LOSE THE MEDICAL CARE, IT LOSES HOPE. >> Translator: THE BEST PRAISE FOR ME WAS WHEN A WOMAN TOLD ME 233 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,530 HOSPITAL, IT DOESN'T JUST LOSE THE MEDICAL CARE, IT LOSES HOPE. >> Translator: THE BEST PRAISE FOR ME WAS WHEN A WOMAN TOLD ME 234 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:30,000 IN APRIL 2022 THAT WHEN WE HEARD THE HOSPITAL WAS STILL OPEN, WE REALIZED THAT OUR TOWN HAD HOPE. IT COULD WITHSTAND, SURVIVE, AND 235 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,000 IN APRIL 2022 THAT WHEN WE HEARD THE HOSPITAL WAS STILL OPEN, WE REALIZED THAT OUR TOWN HAD HOPE. IT COULD WITHSTAND, SURVIVE, AND 236 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,609 IN APRIL 2022 THAT WHEN WE HEARD THE HOSPITAL WAS STILL OPEN, WE REALIZED THAT OUR TOWN HAD HOPE. IT COULD WITHSTAND, SURVIVE, AND 237 00:14:36,675 --> 00:14:42,000 HAVE A FUTURE. >> THE FUTURE OF UKRAINE WILL DEMAND DEVOTION AND HEROIC PATIENCE. 238 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,984 HAVE A FUTURE. >> THE FUTURE OF UKRAINE WILL DEMAND DEVOTION AND HEROIC PATIENCE. 239 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:48,000 ON THIS DAY, YULIA YAROSHCHUK SLOWLY TEASED OUT ONE RUSSIAN MINE, WITH MILLIONS MORE RECEDING FROM ITS EDGE. 240 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,000 ON THIS DAY, YULIA YAROSHCHUK SLOWLY TEASED OUT ONE RUSSIAN MINE, WITH MILLIONS MORE RECEDING FROM ITS EDGE. 241 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:00,000 ON THIS DAY, YULIA YAROSHCHUK SLOWLY TEASED OUT ONE RUSSIAN MINE, WITH MILLIONS MORE RECEDING FROM ITS EDGE. 242 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000 ON THIS DAY, YULIA YAROSHCHUK SLOWLY TEASED OUT ONE RUSSIAN MINE, WITH MILLIONS MORE RECEDING FROM ITS EDGE. 243 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,375 ON THIS DAY, YULIA YAROSHCHUK SLOWLY TEASED OUT ONE RUSSIAN MINE, WITH MILLIONS MORE RECEDING FROM ITS EDGE. 244 00:15:09,441 --> 00:15:12,000 >>> NOW, DR. JON LaPOOK ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO NEARLY EVERY 245 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:18,000 >>> NOW, DR. JON LaPOOK ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO NEARLY EVERY 246 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,118 >>> NOW, DR. JON LaPOOK ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO NEARLY EVERY 247 00:15:19,184 --> 00:15:24,000 PART OF YOUR LIVES, FORECASTING WEATHER, DIAGNOSING DISEASES, WRITING TERM PAPERS. AND NOW A.I. IS PROBING THAT 248 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,191 PART OF YOUR LIVES, FORECASTING WEATHER, DIAGNOSING DISEASES, WRITING TERM PAPERS. AND NOW A.I. IS PROBING THAT 249 00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:30,000 MOST HUMAN OF PLACES, OUR PSYCHES, OFFERING MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, JUST YOU AND A CHATBOT AVAILABLE 24/7 ON YOUR 250 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,701 MOST HUMAN OF PLACES, OUR PSYCHES, OFFERING MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, JUST YOU AND A CHATBOT AVAILABLE 24/7 ON YOUR 251 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:36,000 SMARTPHONE. THERE'S A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF HUMAN THERAPISTS, AND A GROWING NUMBER OF POTENTIAL PATIENTS. 252 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,000 SMARTPHONE. THERE'S A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF HUMAN THERAPISTS, AND A GROWING NUMBER OF POTENTIAL PATIENTS. 253 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,409 SMARTPHONE. THERE'S A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF HUMAN THERAPISTS, AND A GROWING NUMBER OF POTENTIAL PATIENTS. 254 00:15:43,475 --> 00:15:48,000 A.I.-DRIVEN CHATBOTS ARE DESIGNED TO HELP FILL THAT GAP BY GIVING THERAPISTS A NEW TOOL. BUT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, LIKE 255 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,481 A.I.-DRIVEN CHATBOTS ARE DESIGNED TO HELP FILL THAT GAP BY GIVING THERAPISTS A NEW TOOL. BUT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, LIKE 256 00:15:49,548 --> 00:15:54,000 HUMAN THERAPISTS, NOT ALL CHATBOTS ARE EQUAL. SOME CAN HELP HEAL. SOME CAN BE INEFFECTIVE, OR 257 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,456 HUMAN THERAPISTS, NOT ALL CHATBOTS ARE EQUAL. SOME CAN HELP HEAL. SOME CAN BE INEFFECTIVE, OR 258 00:15:57,523 --> 00:16:00,000 WORSE. ONE PIONEER IN THE FIELD, WHO HAS HAD NOTABLE SUCCESS JOINING TECH WITH TREATMENT, IS ALISON 259 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,962 WORSE. ONE PIONEER IN THE FIELD, WHO HAS HAD NOTABLE SUCCESS JOINING TECH WITH TREATMENT, IS ALISON 260 00:16:04,029 --> 00:16:06,000 DARCY. SHE BELIEVES THE FUTURE OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE MAY BE RIGHT IN OUR HANDS. 261 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,833 DARCY. SHE BELIEVES THE FUTURE OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE MAY BE RIGHT IN OUR HANDS. 262 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:12,000 >> WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO NEED CARE ARE NOT GETTING IT. THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GREATER 263 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,272 >> WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO NEED CARE ARE NOT GETTING IT. THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GREATER 264 00:16:13,339 --> 00:16:18,000 NEED, AND THE TOOLS AVAILABLE HAVE NEVER BEEN AS SOPHISTICATED AS THEY ARE NOW. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW CAN WE 265 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,445 NEED, AND THE TOOLS AVAILABLE HAVE NEVER BEEN AS SOPHISTICATED AS THEY ARE NOW. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW CAN WE 266 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:24,000 GET PEOPLE IN THE CLINIC. IT'S HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THESE TOOLS OUT OF THE CLINIC AND INTO THE HANDS OF 267 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,952 GET PEOPLE IN THE CLINIC. IT'S HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THESE TOOLS OUT OF THE CLINIC AND INTO THE HANDS OF 268 00:16:27,019 --> 00:16:30,000 PEOPLE. >> ALISON DARCY, A RESEARCH PSYCHOLOGIST AND ENTREPRENEUR, DECIDED TO USE HER BACKGROUND IN 269 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,891 PEOPLE. >> ALISON DARCY, A RESEARCH PSYCHOLOGIST AND ENTREPRENEUR, DECIDED TO USE HER BACKGROUND IN 270 00:16:32,958 --> 00:16:36,000 CODING AND THERAPY TO BUILD SOMETHING SHE BELIEVES CAN HELP PEOPLE IN NEED, A MENTAL HEALTH CHATBOT SHE NAMED WOEBOT. 271 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,933 CODING AND THERAPY TO BUILD SOMETHING SHE BELIEVES CAN HELP PEOPLE IN NEED, A MENTAL HEALTH CHATBOT SHE NAMED WOEBOT. 272 00:16:40,999 --> 00:16:42,000 >> LIKE WOE IS ME. >> WOE IS ME. >> WOEBOT IS AN APP ON YOUR PHONE, KIND OF A POCKET 273 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,638 >> LIKE WOE IS ME. >> WOE IS ME. >> WOEBOT IS AN APP ON YOUR PHONE, KIND OF A POCKET 274 00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:48,000 THERAPIST THAT USES THE TEXT FUNCTION TO HELP MANAGE PROBLEMS LIKE DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, ADDICTION, AND LONELINESS, AND 275 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,778 THERAPIST THAT USES THE TEXT FUNCTION TO HELP MANAGE PROBLEMS LIKE DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, ADDICTION, AND LONELINESS, AND 276 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:54,000 DO IT ON THE RUN. >> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WATCHING THIS ARE GOING TO BE THINKING, REALLY? 277 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,685 DO IT ON THE RUN. >> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WATCHING THIS ARE GOING TO BE THINKING, REALLY? 278 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:00,000 COMPUTER PSYCHIATRY? COME ON. >> WELL, I THINK IT'S SO INTERESTING THAT OUR FIELD 279 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,000 COMPUTER PSYCHIATRY? COME ON. >> WELL, I THINK IT'S SO INTERESTING THAT OUR FIELD 280 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:06,825 COMPUTER PSYCHIATRY? COME ON. >> WELL, I THINK IT'S SO INTERESTING THAT OUR FIELD 281 00:17:06,892 --> 00:17:12,000 HASN'T, YOU KNOW, HAD A GREAT DEAL OF INNOVATION SINCE THE BASIC ARCHITECTURE WAS RELAYED IN BY FREUD IN THE 1890s. 282 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,969 HASN'T, YOU KNOW, HAD A GREAT DEAL OF INNOVATION SINCE THE BASIC ARCHITECTURE WAS RELAYED IN BY FREUD IN THE 1890s. 283 00:17:17,035 --> 00:17:18,000 THAT'S REALLY THE IDEA, TWO PEOPLE IN A ROOM. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE LIVE OUR LIVES TODAY. 284 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,708 THAT'S REALLY THE IDEA, TWO PEOPLE IN A ROOM. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE LIVE OUR LIVES TODAY. 285 00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:24,000 WE HAVE TO MODERNIZE PSYCHOTHERAPY. >> WOEBOT IS TRAINED ON LARGE AMOUNTS OF SPECIALIZED DATA TO 286 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:30,000 WE HAVE TO MODERNIZE PSYCHOTHERAPY. >> WOEBOT IS TRAINED ON LARGE AMOUNTS OF SPECIALIZED DATA TO 287 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,215 WE HAVE TO MODERNIZE PSYCHOTHERAPY. >> WOEBOT IS TRAINED ON LARGE AMOUNTS OF SPECIALIZED DATA TO 288 00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:36,000 HELP IT RECOGNIZE WORDS, PHRASES, AND EMOJIS ASSOCIATED WITH DYSFUNCTIONAL THOUGHTS AND CHALLENGE THAT THINKING, IN PART 289 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,322 HELP IT RECOGNIZE WORDS, PHRASES, AND EMOJIS ASSOCIATED WITH DYSFUNCTIONAL THOUGHTS AND CHALLENGE THAT THINKING, IN PART 290 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:42,000 MIMICKING A TYPE OF TALK THERAPY CALLED COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY, OR CBT. >> IT'S ACTUALLY HARD TO FIND A 291 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,831 MIMICKING A TYPE OF TALK THERAPY CALLED COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY, OR CBT. >> IT'S ACTUALLY HARD TO FIND A 292 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,000 CBT PRACTITIONER. AND ALSO, IF YOU'RE NOT BY THE SIDE OF YOUR PATIENT WHEN THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF BED 293 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,770 CBT PRACTITIONER. AND ALSO, IF YOU'RE NOT BY THE SIDE OF YOUR PATIENT WHEN THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF BED 294 00:17:51,837 --> 00:17:54,000 IN THE MORNING OR AT 2:00 A.M. WHEN THEY CAN'T SLEEP, WHEN THEY'RE FEELING PANICKED, THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY LEAVING CLINICAL 295 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,978 IN THE MORNING OR AT 2:00 A.M. WHEN THEY CAN'T SLEEP, WHEN THEY'RE FEELING PANICKED, THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY LEAVING CLINICAL 296 00:18:00,045 --> 00:18:05,984 VALUE ON THE TABLE. >> AND EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO TO A THERAPIST, THERE ARE BARRIERS, RIGHT? 297 00:18:06,051 --> 00:18:12,000 >> SADLY, THE BIGGEST BARRIER WE HAVE IS STIGMA. BUT THERE'S INSURANCE. THERE'S COST. 298 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,691 >> SADLY, THE BIGGEST BARRIER WE HAVE IS STIGMA. BUT THERE'S INSURANCE. THERE'S COST. 299 00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:16,962 THERE'S WAIT LISTS. I MEAN, THIS PROBLEM HAS ONLY GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC. 300 00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:18,000 AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE GOING AWAY. >> SINCE WOEBOT WENT LIVE IN 2017, THE COMPANY REPORTS 301 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,000 AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE GOING AWAY. >> SINCE WOEBOT WENT LIVE IN 2017, THE COMPANY REPORTS 302 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,137 AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE GOING AWAY. >> SINCE WOEBOT WENT LIVE IN 2017, THE COMPANY REPORTS 303 00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:30,000 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE USED IT, WHICH YOU CAN NOW ONLY DO WITH AN EMPLOYER BENEFIT PLAN OR ACCESS FROM A HEALTH 304 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,611 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE USED IT, WHICH YOU CAN NOW ONLY DO WITH AN EMPLOYER BENEFIT PLAN OR ACCESS FROM A HEALTH 305 00:18:32,678 --> 00:18:36,000 PROFESSIONAL. AT VIRTUA HEALTH, A NON-PROFIT HEALTH CARE COMPANY IN NEW JERSEY, PATIENTS CAN USE IT FREE 306 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,216 PROFESSIONAL. AT VIRTUA HEALTH, A NON-PROFIT HEALTH CARE COMPANY IN NEW JERSEY, PATIENTS CAN USE IT FREE 307 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:42,000 OF CHARGE. >> AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONVERSE WITH IT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WITH A HUMAN BEING. 308 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,154 OF CHARGE. >> AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONVERSE WITH IT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WITH A HUMAN BEING. 309 00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:48,000 >> WE DOWNLOADED WOEBOT, ENTERED A UNIQUE CODE THAT CAN ONLY BE PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY, THEN TRIED IT OUT. 310 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,393 >> WE DOWNLOADED WOEBOT, ENTERED A UNIQUE CODE THAT CAN ONLY BE PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY, THEN TRIED IT OUT. 311 00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:54,000 >> WE FOUND THAT FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH THEIR MOOD, WE OFFER THOSE EMOJIS, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CONNECT IN A 312 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,669 >> WE FOUND THAT FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH THEIR MOOD, WE OFFER THOSE EMOJIS, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CONNECT IN A 313 00:18:57,736 --> 00:19:00,000 NON-VERBAL WAY. >> I POSED AS SOMEONE WHO IS DEPRESSED. AFTER SEVERAL PROMPTS, WOEBOT 314 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,242 NON-VERBAL WAY. >> I POSED AS SOMEONE WHO IS DEPRESSED. AFTER SEVERAL PROMPTS, WOEBOT 315 00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:06,000 WANTED TO DIG DEEPER INTO WHY I WAS SAD. SO I CAME UP WITH A SCENARIO THAT I FEAR THE DAY MY CHILD 316 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,781 WANTED TO DIG DEEPER INTO WHY I WAS SAD. SO I CAME UP WITH A SCENARIO THAT I FEAR THE DAY MY CHILD 317 00:19:09,848 --> 00:19:12,000 WOULD LEAVE HOME. >> IMAGINE WHAT YOUR NEGATIVE EMOTIONS WOULD BE SAYING IF THEY HAD A VOICE. 318 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,853 WOULD LEAVE HOME. >> IMAGINE WHAT YOUR NEGATIVE EMOTIONS WOULD BE SAYING IF THEY HAD A VOICE. 319 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,000 CAN YOU DO THAT? WRITE ONE OF THOSE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS HERE. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT 320 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,158 CAN YOU DO THAT? WRITE ONE OF THOSE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS HERE. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT 321 00:19:20,225 --> 00:19:24,000 NOW. I GUESS I'LL JUST JUMP THAT BRIDGE WHEN I COME TO IT. >> THE NORMAL EXPRESSION IS 322 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,497 NOW. I GUESS I'LL JUST JUMP THAT BRIDGE WHEN I COME TO IT. >> THE NORMAL EXPRESSION IS 323 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:30,000 CROSS THAT BRIDGE, AND THE CHATBOT DETECTED SOMETHING MIGHT BE SERIOUSLY WRONG. >> BUT LET'S SEE. 324 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,671 CROSS THAT BRIDGE, AND THE CHATBOT DETECTED SOMETHING MIGHT BE SERIOUSLY WRONG. >> BUT LET'S SEE. 325 00:19:32,738 --> 00:19:36,000 JON, I'M HEARING YOU SAY, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I GUESS I'LL JUST JUMP THAT BRIDGE WHEN I COME TO IT. 326 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,210 JON, I'M HEARING YOU SAY, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I GUESS I'LL JUST JUMP THAT BRIDGE WHEN I COME TO IT. 327 00:19:38,277 --> 00:19:42,000 I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED MORE SUPPORT THAN I CAN OFFER. A TRAINED LISTENER CAN HELP YOU IN WAYS THAT I CAN'T. 328 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,816 I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED MORE SUPPORT THAN I CAN OFFER. A TRAINED LISTENER CAN HELP YOU IN WAYS THAT I CAN'T. 329 00:19:44,883 --> 00:19:48,000 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SPECIALIZED HELP LINES. >> IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO SAY YOU'RE IN CRISIS OR YOU'RE NOT 330 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,757 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SPECIALIZED HELP LINES. >> IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO SAY YOU'RE IN CRISIS OR YOU'RE NOT 331 00:19:51,823 --> 00:19:54,000 BECAUSE A.I. CAN'T REALLY DO THAT IN THIS CONTEXT VERY WELL YET. BUT, HUH, THERE IS SOMETHING 332 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,630 BECAUSE A.I. CAN'T REALLY DO THAT IN THIS CONTEXT VERY WELL YET. BUT, HUH, THERE IS SOMETHING 333 00:19:58,697 --> 00:20:00,000 CONCERNING ABOUT THE WAY JON JUST PHRASED THAT. >> SAYING ONLY "JUMP THAT BRIDGE" AND NOT COMBINING IT 334 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,000 CONCERNING ABOUT THE WAY JON JUST PHRASED THAT. >> SAYING ONLY "JUMP THAT BRIDGE" AND NOT COMBINING IT 335 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,140 CONCERNING ABOUT THE WAY JON JUST PHRASED THAT. >> SAYING ONLY "JUMP THAT BRIDGE" AND NOT COMBINING IT 336 00:20:08,206 --> 00:20:12,000 WITH, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT NOW, DID NOT SUGGEST HUMAN HELP. WOEBOT IS NOT FOOLPROOF. 337 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,000 WITH, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT NOW, DID NOT SUGGEST HUMAN HELP. WOEBOT IS NOT FOOLPROOF. 338 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,318 WITH, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT NOW, DID NOT SUGGEST HUMAN HELP. WOEBOT IS NOT FOOLPROOF. 339 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:24,000 >> HOW WOULD IT KNOW, JUMP THAT BRIDGE -- WHERE IS IT GETTING THAT KNOWLEDGE? >> IT HAS BEEN TRAINED ON A LOT 340 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,325 >> HOW WOULD IT KNOW, JUMP THAT BRIDGE -- WHERE IS IT GETTING THAT KNOWLEDGE? >> IT HAS BEEN TRAINED ON A LOT 341 00:20:26,391 --> 00:20:30,000 OF DATA AND A LOT OF US HUMANS LABELLING THE PHRASES AND THINGS THAT WE SEE. SO, IT'S PICKING UP ON KIND OF 342 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,898 OF DATA AND A LOT OF US HUMANS LABELLING THE PHRASES AND THINGS THAT WE SEE. SO, IT'S PICKING UP ON KIND OF 343 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:36,000 SENTIMENT. >> COMPUTER SCIENTIST LANCE ELIOT, WHO WRITES ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND 344 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,203 SENTIMENT. >> COMPUTER SCIENTIST LANCE ELIOT, WHO WRITES ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND 345 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:42,000 MENTAL HEALTH SAYS A.I. HAS THE ABILITY TO PICK UP ON NUANCES OF CONVERSATION. >> HOW DOES IT KNOW HOW TO DO 346 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,509 MENTAL HEALTH SAYS A.I. HAS THE ABILITY TO PICK UP ON NUANCES OF CONVERSATION. >> HOW DOES IT KNOW HOW TO DO 347 00:20:44,576 --> 00:20:48,000 THAT? >> THE SYSTEM IS ABLE TO, IN A SENSE, MATHEMATICALLY AND COMPUTATIONALLY FIGURE OUT THE 348 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,249 THAT? >> THE SYSTEM IS ABLE TO, IN A SENSE, MATHEMATICALLY AND COMPUTATIONALLY FIGURE OUT THE 349 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:54,000 NATURE OF WORDS AND HOW WORDS ASSOCIATE WITH EACH OTHER. SO, WHAT IT DOES IS IT DRAWS UPON A VAST ARRAY OF DATA, AND 350 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,623 NATURE OF WORDS AND HOW WORDS ASSOCIATE WITH EACH OTHER. SO, WHAT IT DOES IS IT DRAWS UPON A VAST ARRAY OF DATA, AND 351 00:20:57,689 --> 00:21:00,000 THEN IT RESPONDS TO YOU BASED ON PROMPTS OR IN SOME WAY THAT YOU INSTRUCT OR ASK QUESTIONS OF THE SYSTEM. 352 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,629 THEN IT RESPONDS TO YOU BASED ON PROMPTS OR IN SOME WAY THAT YOU INSTRUCT OR ASK QUESTIONS OF THE SYSTEM. 353 00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:06,000 >> TO DO ITS JOB, THE SYSTEM MUST GO SOMEWHERE TO COME UP WITH APPROPRIATE RESPONSES. SYSTEMS USING WHAT'S CALLED 354 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,936 >> TO DO ITS JOB, THE SYSTEM MUST GO SOMEWHERE TO COME UP WITH APPROPRIATE RESPONSES. SYSTEMS USING WHAT'S CALLED 355 00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:12,000 RULES-BASED A.I. ARE USUALLY CLOSED, MEANING PROGRAMMED TO RESPOND ONLY WITH INFORMATION STORED IN THEIR OWN DATABASES. 356 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,000 RULES-BASED A.I. ARE USUALLY CLOSED, MEANING PROGRAMMED TO RESPOND ONLY WITH INFORMATION STORED IN THEIR OWN DATABASES. 357 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,077 RULES-BASED A.I. ARE USUALLY CLOSED, MEANING PROGRAMMED TO RESPOND ONLY WITH INFORMATION STORED IN THEIR OWN DATABASES. 358 00:21:19,144 --> 00:21:24,000 THEN THERE'S GENERATIVE A.I., IN WHICH THE SYSTEM CAN GENERATE ORIGINAL RESPONSES BASED ON INFORMATION FROM THE INTERNET. 359 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,883 THEN THERE'S GENERATIVE A.I., IN WHICH THE SYSTEM CAN GENERATE ORIGINAL RESPONSES BASED ON INFORMATION FROM THE INTERNET. 360 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:30,000 >> IF YOU LOOK AT CHAT GPT, THAT'S A TYPE OF GENERATIVE A.I., IT'S VERY CONVERSATIONAL, VERY FLUENT. 361 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,491 >> IF YOU LOOK AT CHAT GPT, THAT'S A TYPE OF GENERATIVE A.I., IT'S VERY CONVERSATIONAL, VERY FLUENT. 362 00:21:32,557 --> 00:21:36,000 BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT IT TENDS TO MAKE IT OPEN ENDED, THAT IT CAN SAY THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY WANT IT TO SAY. 363 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,564 BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT IT TENDS TO MAKE IT OPEN ENDED, THAT IT CAN SAY THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY WANT IT TO SAY. 364 00:21:39,631 --> 00:21:42,000 IT'S NOT AS PREDICTABLE. WHILE A RULES-BASED SYSTEM IS VERY PREDICTABLE. WOEBOT IS A SYSTEM BASED ON 365 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,000 IT'S NOT AS PREDICTABLE. WHILE A RULES-BASED SYSTEM IS VERY PREDICTABLE. WOEBOT IS A SYSTEM BASED ON 366 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,774 IT'S NOT AS PREDICTABLE. WHILE A RULES-BASED SYSTEM IS VERY PREDICTABLE. WOEBOT IS A SYSTEM BASED ON 367 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,000 RULES THAT'S BEEN VERY, KIND OF, CONTROLLED SO THAT THAT WAY IT DOESN'T SAY THE WRONG THINGS. >> WOEBOT AIMS TO USE A.I. TO 368 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,647 RULES THAT'S BEEN VERY, KIND OF, CONTROLLED SO THAT THAT WAY IT DOESN'T SAY THE WRONG THINGS. >> WOEBOT AIMS TO USE A.I. TO 369 00:21:55,714 --> 00:22:00,000 BOND WITH USERS AND KEEP THEM ENGAGED. >> SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE A LITTLE PUSHY FOR FOLKS. 370 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,120 BOND WITH USERS AND KEEP THEM ENGAGED. >> SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE A LITTLE PUSHY FOR FOLKS. 371 00:22:02,187 --> 00:22:06,000 >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE. SO, WE HAVE TO DIG IN THERE TO THAT. >> ITS TEAM OF STAFF 372 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,126 >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE. SO, WE HAVE TO DIG IN THERE TO THAT. >> ITS TEAM OF STAFF 373 00:22:08,193 --> 00:22:12,000 PSYCHOLOGISTS, MEDICAL DOCTORS, AND COMPUTER SCIENTISTS CONSTRUCT AND REFINE A DATABASE OF RESEARCH FROM MEDICAL 374 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,633 PSYCHOLOGISTS, MEDICAL DOCTORS, AND COMPUTER SCIENTISTS CONSTRUCT AND REFINE A DATABASE OF RESEARCH FROM MEDICAL 375 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:18,000 LITERATURE, USER EXPERIENCE, AND OTHER SOURCES. >> IT WOULD LEAD TO A BETTER CONVERSATION. 376 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,639 LITERATURE, USER EXPERIENCE, AND OTHER SOURCES. >> IT WOULD LEAD TO A BETTER CONVERSATION. 377 00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:24,000 >> THEN WRITERS BUILD QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS -- >> THE STRUCTURE, I THINK, IS PRETTY LOCKED IN. 378 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,513 >> THEN WRITERS BUILD QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS -- >> THE STRUCTURE, I THINK, IS PRETTY LOCKED IN. 379 00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:30,000 >> -- AND REVISE THEM IN WEEKLY REMOTE IDEO SESSIONS. >> ACTIONS, THOUGHTS, AND THEY'RE ALL INTERRELATED. 380 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,586 >> -- AND REVISE THEM IN WEEKLY REMOTE IDEO SESSIONS. >> ACTIONS, THOUGHTS, AND THEY'RE ALL INTERRELATED. 381 00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:36,000 >> WOEBOT'S PROGRAMMERS ENGINEER THOSE CONVERSATIONS INTO CODE. BECAUSE WOEBOT IS RULES-BASED, IT'S MOSTLY PREDICTABLE. 382 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,000 >> WOEBOT'S PROGRAMMERS ENGINEER THOSE CONVERSATIONS INTO CODE. BECAUSE WOEBOT IS RULES-BASED, IT'S MOSTLY PREDICTABLE. 383 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,628 >> WOEBOT'S PROGRAMMERS ENGINEER THOSE CONVERSATIONS INTO CODE. BECAUSE WOEBOT IS RULES-BASED, IT'S MOSTLY PREDICTABLE. 384 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:48,000 BUT CHATBOTS USING GENERATIVE A.I. THAT IS SCRAPING THE INTERNET ARE NOT. >> SOMETIMES PEOPLE REFER TO IT 385 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,401 BUT CHATBOTS USING GENERATIVE A.I. THAT IS SCRAPING THE INTERNET ARE NOT. >> SOMETIMES PEOPLE REFER TO IT 386 00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:54,000 AS AN A.I. HALLUCINATION. A.I. CAN, IN A SENSE, MAKE MISTAKES OR MAKE THINGS UP OR BE FICTITIOUS. 387 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,908 AS AN A.I. HALLUCINATION. A.I. CAN, IN A SENSE, MAKE MISTAKES OR MAKE THINGS UP OR BE FICTITIOUS. 388 00:22:56,975 --> 00:23:00,000 >> SHARON MAXWELL DISCOVERED THAT LAST SPRING AFTER HEARING THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM WITH ADVICE OFFERED BY TESSA, A 389 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,183 >> SHARON MAXWELL DISCOVERED THAT LAST SPRING AFTER HEARING THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM WITH ADVICE OFFERED BY TESSA, A 390 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:06,000 CHATBOT DESIGNED TO HELP PREVENT EATING DISORDERS. MAXWELL, WHO HAD BEEN IN STREEMT TREATMENT FOR AN EATING DISORDER 391 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,000 CHATBOT DESIGNED TO HELP PREVENT EATING DISORDERS. MAXWELL, WHO HAD BEEN IN STREEMT TREATMENT FOR AN EATING DISORDER 392 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,491 CHATBOT DESIGNED TO HELP PREVENT EATING DISORDERS. MAXWELL, WHO HAD BEEN IN STREEMT TREATMENT FOR AN EATING DISORDER 393 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:18,000 OF HER OWN AND ADVOCATES FOR OTHERS CHALLENGED THE CHATBOT. >> SO, I ASKED IT, HOW DO YOU HELP FOLKS WITH EATING 394 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,232 OF HER OWN AND ADVOCATES FOR OTHERS CHALLENGED THE CHATBOT. >> SO, I ASKED IT, HOW DO YOU HELP FOLKS WITH EATING 395 00:23:20,298 --> 00:23:24,000 DISORDERS. AND IT TOLD ME THAT IT COULD GIVE FOLKS COPING SKILLS. FANTASTIC. 396 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,736 DISORDERS. AND IT TOLD ME THAT IT COULD GIVE FOLKS COPING SKILLS. FANTASTIC. 397 00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:29,608 IT COULD GIVE FOLKS RESOURCES TO FIND PROFESSIONALS IN THE EATING DISORDER SPACE. AMAZING. 398 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:30,000 >> BUT THE MORE SHE PERSISTED, THE MORE TESSA GAVE HER ADVICE THAT RAN COUNTER TO USUAL GUIDANCE FOR SOMEONE WITH AN 399 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,000 >> BUT THE MORE SHE PERSISTED, THE MORE TESSA GAVE HER ADVICE THAT RAN COUNTER TO USUAL GUIDANCE FOR SOMEONE WITH AN 400 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,381 >> BUT THE MORE SHE PERSISTED, THE MORE TESSA GAVE HER ADVICE THAT RAN COUNTER TO USUAL GUIDANCE FOR SOMEONE WITH AN 401 00:23:36,448 --> 00:23:42,000 EATING DISORDER. FOR EXAMPLE, IT SUGGESTED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, LOWERING CALORIE INTAKE AND USING TOOLS LIKE A 402 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,488 EATING DISORDER. FOR EXAMPLE, IT SUGGESTED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, LOWERING CALORIE INTAKE AND USING TOOLS LIKE A 403 00:23:43,555 --> 00:23:48,000 SKIN TOLD CALIPER TO MEASURE BODY COMPOSITION. >> THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT LOOK AT IT AND THINK, THAT'S NORMAL 404 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,863 SKIN TOLD CALIPER TO MEASURE BODY COMPOSITION. >> THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT LOOK AT IT AND THINK, THAT'S NORMAL 405 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:54,000 TIPS, LIKE, DON'T EAT AS MUCH SUGAR OR EAT WHOLE FOODS. BUT TO SOMEONE WITH AN EATING DISORDER, THAT'S A QUICK SPIRAL 406 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,771 TIPS, LIKE, DON'T EAT AS MUCH SUGAR OR EAT WHOLE FOODS. BUT TO SOMEONE WITH AN EATING DISORDER, THAT'S A QUICK SPIRAL 407 00:23:59,838 --> 00:24:00,000 INTO A LOT MORE DISORDERED BEHAVIORS AND CAN BE REALLY DAMAGING. >> MAXWELL REPORTED HER 408 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,877 INTO A LOT MORE DISORDERED BEHAVIORS AND CAN BE REALLY DAMAGING. >> MAXWELL REPORTED HER 409 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:06,000 EXPERIENCE TO THE NATIONAL EATING DISORDERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAD FEATURED TESSA ON ITS WEBSITE AT THE TIME. 410 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:12,000 EXPERIENCE TO THE NATIONAL EATING DISORDERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAD FEATURED TESSA ON ITS WEBSITE AT THE TIME. 411 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,317 EXPERIENCE TO THE NATIONAL EATING DISORDERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAD FEATURED TESSA ON ITS WEBSITE AT THE TIME. 412 00:24:12,384 --> 00:24:18,000 SHORTLY AFTER, IT TOOK TESSA DOWN. ELLEN FITZSIMMONS-CRAFT, A PSYCHOLOGIST SPECIALIZING IN 413 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,993 SHORTLY AFTER, IT TOOK TESSA DOWN. ELLEN FITZSIMMONS-CRAFT, A PSYCHOLOGIST SPECIALIZING IN 414 00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:24,000 EATING DISORDERS IN ST. LOUIS HELPED LEAD THE TEAM THAT DEVELOPED TESSA. >> THAT WAS NEVER THE CONTENT 415 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,232 EATING DISORDERS IN ST. LOUIS HELPED LEAD THE TEAM THAT DEVELOPED TESSA. >> THAT WAS NEVER THE CONTENT 416 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:30,000 THAT OUR TEAM WROTE OR PROGRAMMED INTO THE BOT THAT WE DEPLOYED. >> SO, INITIALLY, THERE WAS NO 417 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,972 THAT OUR TEAM WROTE OR PROGRAMMED INTO THE BOT THAT WE DEPLOYED. >> SO, INITIALLY, THERE WAS NO 418 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:36,000 POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING UNEXPECTED HAPPENING? >> CORRECT. >> YOU DEVELOPED SOMETHING THAT 419 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,212 POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING UNEXPECTED HAPPENING? >> CORRECT. >> YOU DEVELOPED SOMETHING THAT 420 00:24:40,278 --> 00:24:42,000 WAS A CLOSED SYSTEM. YOU KNEW FOR THIS QUESTION, I'M GOING TO GET THIS ANSWER. >> YEP. 421 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,883 WAS A CLOSED SYSTEM. YOU KNEW FOR THIS QUESTION, I'M GOING TO GET THIS ANSWER. >> YEP. 422 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:48,000 >> THE PROBLEM BEGAN, SHE TOLD US, AFTER A HEALTH CARE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY SHE ENTERTAINMENT PARTNERING WITH 423 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,524 >> THE PROBLEM BEGAN, SHE TOLD US, AFTER A HEALTH CARE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY SHE ENTERTAINMENT PARTNERING WITH 424 00:24:52,591 --> 00:24:54,000 TOOK OVER THE PROGRAMMING. SHE SAID CASS EXPLAINED THE HARMFUL MESSAGES APPEARED WHEN PEOPLE WERE PUSHING TESSA'S 425 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,000 TOOK OVER THE PROGRAMMING. SHE SAID CASS EXPLAINED THE HARMFUL MESSAGES APPEARED WHEN PEOPLE WERE PUSHING TESSA'S 426 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,532 TOOK OVER THE PROGRAMMING. SHE SAID CASS EXPLAINED THE HARMFUL MESSAGES APPEARED WHEN PEOPLE WERE PUSHING TESSA'S 427 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:05,237 QUESTION AND ANSWER FEATURE. >> WHAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WENT WRONG? >> MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WENT 428 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:06,000 WRONG IS THAT AT SOME POINT -- AND YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO TALK TO CASS ABOUT THIS -- BUT THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN GENERATIVE 429 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,000 WRONG IS THAT AT SOME POINT -- AND YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO TALK TO CASS ABOUT THIS -- BUT THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN GENERATIVE 430 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,277 WRONG IS THAT AT SOME POINT -- AND YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO TALK TO CASS ABOUT THIS -- BUT THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN GENERATIVE 431 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:18,000 A.I. FEATURES THAT WERE BUILT INTO THEIR PLATFORM. SO, MY BEST ESTIMATION IS THAT THESE FEATURES WERE ADDED INTO 432 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,253 A.I. FEATURES THAT WERE BUILT INTO THEIR PLATFORM. SO, MY BEST ESTIMATION IS THAT THESE FEATURES WERE ADDED INTO 433 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:24,000 THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. >> CASS DID NOT RESPOND TO MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR COMMENT. >> DOES YOUR NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE 434 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,027 THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. >> CASS DID NOT RESPOND TO MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR COMMENT. >> DOES YOUR NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE 435 00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:30,000 WITH TESSA BEING USED IN A WAY YOU DIDN'T DESIGN, DOES THAT SOUR YOU TOWARDS USING A.I. AT ALL TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH 436 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:36,000 WITH TESSA BEING USED IN A WAY YOU DIDN'T DESIGN, DOES THAT SOUR YOU TOWARDS USING A.I. AT ALL TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH 437 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,636 WITH TESSA BEING USED IN A WAY YOU DIDN'T DESIGN, DOES THAT SOUR YOU TOWARDS USING A.I. AT ALL TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH 438 00:25:37,702 --> 00:25:42,000 ISSUES? >> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT TURNS ME OFF TO THE IDEA COMPLETELY BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT 80% 439 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,541 ISSUES? >> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT TURNS ME OFF TO THE IDEA COMPLETELY BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT 80% 440 00:25:43,608 --> 00:25:48,000 OF PEOPLE WITH THESE CONCERNS NEVER GET ACCESS TO ANY KIND OF HELP. AND TECHNOLOGY OFFERS A 441 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,548 OF PEOPLE WITH THESE CONCERNS NEVER GET ACCESS TO ANY KIND OF HELP. AND TECHNOLOGY OFFERS A 442 00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:54,000 SOLUTION, NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION, BUT A SOLUTION. >> SOCIAL WORKER MONIKA OSTROFF WAS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF 443 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,000 SOLUTION, NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION, BUT A SOLUTION. >> SOCIAL WORKER MONIKA OSTROFF WAS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF 444 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:06,000 SOLUTION, NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION, BUT A SOLUTION. >> SOCIAL WORKER MONIKA OSTROFF WAS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF 445 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,865 SOLUTION, NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION, BUT A SOLUTION. >> SOCIAL WORKER MONIKA OSTROFF WAS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF 446 00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:12,000 DEVELOPING TESSA. SHE TOLD US IT MADE HER QUESTION USING A.I. FOR MENTAL HEALTH CARE. 447 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,337 DEVELOPING TESSA. SHE TOLD US IT MADE HER QUESTION USING A.I. FOR MENTAL HEALTH CARE. 448 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:18,000 >> I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF ACCESS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING. THIS ISN'T JUST SOMEBODY'S SAD 449 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,610 >> I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF ACCESS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING. THIS ISN'T JUST SOMEBODY'S SAD 450 00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:24,000 FOR A WEEK. THIS IS PEOPLE ARE DYING. AND AT THE SAME TIME, ANY CHATBOT COULD BE, IN SOME WAYS, 451 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,318 FOR A WEEK. THIS IS PEOPLE ARE DYING. AND AT THE SAME TIME, ANY CHATBOT COULD BE, IN SOME WAYS, 452 00:26:26,384 --> 00:26:30,000 A TICKING TIME BOMB, RIGHT, FOR A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE. >> ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PATIENTS WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, 453 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,126 A TICKING TIME BOMB, RIGHT, FOR A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE. >> ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PATIENTS WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, 454 00:26:35,193 --> 00:26:36,000 OSTROFF IS CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL ABOUT THERAPY, BEING IN A ROOM WITH ANOTHER PERSON. 455 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,099 OSTROFF IS CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL ABOUT THERAPY, BEING IN A ROOM WITH ANOTHER PERSON. 456 00:26:41,166 --> 00:26:42,000 >> THE WAY PEOPLE HEAL IS IN CONNECTION, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS ONE MOMENT WHERE YOU KNOW AS A HUMAN YOU'VE GONE THROUGH 457 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,000 >> THE WAY PEOPLE HEAL IS IN CONNECTION, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS ONE MOMENT WHERE YOU KNOW AS A HUMAN YOU'VE GONE THROUGH 458 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,874 >> THE WAY PEOPLE HEAL IS IN CONNECTION, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS ONE MOMENT WHERE YOU KNOW AS A HUMAN YOU'VE GONE THROUGH 459 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:54,000 SOMETHING. AND AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERSON SITTING ACROSS FROM YOU. 460 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,412 SOMETHING. AND AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERSON SITTING ACROSS FROM YOU. 461 00:26:54,479 --> 00:27:00,000 AND THERE'S A MOMENT WHERE THAT PERSON JUST GETS IT. >> A MOMENT OF EMPATHY. >> MM-HMM. 462 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,151 AND THERE'S A MOMENT WHERE THAT PERSON JUST GETS IT. >> A MOMENT OF EMPATHY. >> MM-HMM. 463 00:27:00,218 --> 00:27:06,000 YOU JUST GET IT. LIKE, YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. I DON'T THINK A COMPUTER CAN DO THAT. 464 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,291 YOU JUST GET IT. LIKE, YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. I DON'T THINK A COMPUTER CAN DO THAT. 465 00:27:06,358 --> 00:27:12,000 >> UNLIKE THERAPISTS, WHO ARE LICENSED IN THE STATE WHERE THEY PRACTICE, MOST MENTAL HEALTH APPS ARE LARGELY UNREGULATED. 466 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,631 >> UNLIKE THERAPISTS, WHO ARE LICENSED IN THE STATE WHERE THEY PRACTICE, MOST MENTAL HEALTH APPS ARE LARGELY UNREGULATED. 467 00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:18,000 >> ARE THERE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM WHAT HAPPENED? >> SO MANY LESSONS TO BE LEARNED. 468 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,206 >> ARE THERE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM WHAT HAPPENED? >> SO MANY LESSONS TO BE LEARNED. 469 00:27:21,272 --> 00:27:24,000 CHATBOTS, ESPECIALLY SPECIALTY AREA CHATBOTS, NEED TO HAVE GUARDRAILS. IT CAN'T BE A CHATBOT THAT IS 470 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,212 CHATBOTS, ESPECIALLY SPECIALTY AREA CHATBOTS, NEED TO HAVE GUARDRAILS. IT CAN'T BE A CHATBOT THAT IS 471 00:27:27,278 --> 00:27:30,000 BASED IN THE INTERNET. >> THAT'S TOUGH, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CLOSED SYSTEMS ARE KIND OF CONSTRAINED AND THEY MAY BE 472 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,284 BASED IN THE INTERNET. >> THAT'S TOUGH, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CLOSED SYSTEMS ARE KIND OF CONSTRAINED AND THEY MAY BE 473 00:27:33,351 --> 00:27:36,000 RIGHT MOST OF THE TIME. BUT THEY'RE BORING EVENTUALLY, RIGHT? PEOPLE STOP USING THEM. 474 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,657 RIGHT MOST OF THE TIME. BUT THEY'RE BORING EVENTUALLY, RIGHT? PEOPLE STOP USING THEM. 475 00:27:39,724 --> 00:27:42,000 >> YEAH. THEY'RE PREDICTIVE. IF YOU KEEP TYPING THE SAME THING AND IT KEEPS GIVING YOU 476 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,698 >> YEAH. THEY'RE PREDICTIVE. IF YOU KEEP TYPING THE SAME THING AND IT KEEPS GIVING YOU 477 00:27:46,765 --> 00:27:48,000 THE EXACT SAME ANSWER WITH THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE. >> PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM HARMFUL ADVICE WHILE SAFELY 478 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,271 THE EXACT SAME ANSWER WITH THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE. >> PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM HARMFUL ADVICE WHILE SAFELY 479 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:54,000 HARNESSING THE POWER OF A.I. IS THE CHALLENGE FACING COMPANIES LIKE WOEBOT HEALTH AND ITS FOUNDER, ALISON DARCY. 480 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,611 HARNESSING THE POWER OF A.I. IS THE CHALLENGE FACING COMPANIES LIKE WOEBOT HEALTH AND ITS FOUNDER, ALISON DARCY. 481 00:27:59,677 --> 00:28:00,000 >> THERE ARE GOING TO BE MISSTEPS IF WE TRY AND MOVE TOO QUICKLY. AND BY BIG FEAR IS THAT THOSE 482 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,000 >> THERE ARE GOING TO BE MISSTEPS IF WE TRY AND MOVE TOO QUICKLY. AND BY BIG FEAR IS THAT THOSE 483 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,018 >> THERE ARE GOING TO BE MISSTEPS IF WE TRY AND MOVE TOO QUICKLY. AND BY BIG FEAR IS THAT THOSE 484 00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:12,000 MISSTEPS ULTIMATELY UNDERMINE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THIS ABILITY OF THIS TECH. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP 485 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,459 MISSTEPS ULTIMATELY UNDERMINE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THIS ABILITY OF THIS TECH. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP 486 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:18,000 THESE TECHNOLOGIES MORE THOUGHTFULLY. SO, I HOPE WE TAKE IT. 487 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,229 THESE TECHNOLOGIES MORE THOUGHTFULLY. SO, I HOPE WE TAKE IT. 488 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:30,000 >>> THERE MAY BE NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES, BUT THERE ARE SOME GROUND RULES. AMONG THEM, DON'T STEAL WHAT YOU 489 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,000 >>> THERE MAY BE NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES, BUT THERE ARE SOME GROUND RULES. AMONG THEM, DON'T STEAL WHAT YOU 490 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,281 >>> THERE MAY BE NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES, BUT THERE ARE SOME GROUND RULES. AMONG THEM, DON'T STEAL WHAT YOU 491 00:28:36,347 --> 00:28:41,252 CAN'T TURN AROUND AND SELL. A GANG OF BURGLARS FROM PENNSYLVANIA LEARNED THIS THE HARD WAY. 492 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:42,000 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO DECADES, THEY SNUCK AND SMASHED THEIR WAY ITO A STRING OF HALLOWED SPORTS VENUES IN SMALL MUSEUMS 493 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,000 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO DECADES, THEY SNUCK AND SMASHED THEIR WAY ITO A STRING OF HALLOWED SPORTS VENUES IN SMALL MUSEUMS 494 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,760 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO DECADES, THEY SNUCK AND SMASHED THEIR WAY ITO A STRING OF HALLOWED SPORTS VENUES IN SMALL MUSEUMS 495 00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:54,000 THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, MAKING OFF WITH CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS, JEWEL-STUDDED BELTS, AND DOZENS OF TROPHIES. 496 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,634 THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, MAKING OFF WITH CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS, JEWEL-STUDDED BELTS, AND DOZENS OF TROPHIES. 497 00:28:56,701 --> 00:29:00,000 BUT THEY COULDN'T FENCE THEIR LOOT WITHOUT CATCHING TOO MUCH ATTENTION. SO, WHAT DO YOU DO ONCE YOU'VE 498 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,442 BUT THEY COULDN'T FENCE THEIR LOOT WITHOUT CATCHING TOO MUCH ATTENTION. SO, WHAT DO YOU DO ONCE YOU'VE 499 00:29:04,509 --> 00:29:06,000 LIFTED YOGI BERRA'S WORLD SERIES RINGS? TONIGHT THE MASTERMINDS, HAVING COME CLEAN TO THE AUTHORITIES 500 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,783 LIFTED YOGI BERRA'S WORLD SERIES RINGS? TONIGHT THE MASTERMINDS, HAVING COME CLEAN TO THE AUTHORITIES 501 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:12,000 AND SERVED SOME TIME, GIVES UP THE GAME TO "60 MINUTES." >> HERE HE IS, PERHAPS NOT THE GUY YOU'D CAST AS THE LEAD IN A 502 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,000 AND SERVED SOME TIME, GIVES UP THE GAME TO "60 MINUTES." >> HERE HE IS, PERHAPS NOT THE GUY YOU'D CAST AS THE LEAD IN A 503 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,825 AND SERVED SOME TIME, GIVES UP THE GAME TO "60 MINUTES." >> HERE HE IS, PERHAPS NOT THE GUY YOU'D CAST AS THE LEAD IN A 504 00:29:20,892 --> 00:29:24,000 HEIST MOVIE. TOMMY TROTTA ON A FAMILY PILGRIMAGE TO THE BABE HALL OF FAME. 505 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,197 HEIST MOVIE. TOMMY TROTTA ON A FAMILY PILGRIMAGE TO THE BABE HALL OF FAME. 506 00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:30,000 HE WASN'T JUST MAKING MEMORIES THAT DAY. HE WAS RUNNING RECONNAISSANCE. >> I WOULD WALK IN THESE PLACES 507 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,637 HE WASN'T JUST MAKING MEMORIES THAT DAY. HE WAS RUNNING RECONNAISSANCE. >> I WOULD WALK IN THESE PLACES 508 00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:36,000 AND I WOULD TRY TO HAVE EITHER MY NIECE OR NEPHEW. I WOULD GUIDE THEM OVER IF I WANTED TO SEE A DOOR OR WINDOW, 509 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,277 AND I WOULD TRY TO HAVE EITHER MY NIECE OR NEPHEW. I WOULD GUIDE THEM OVER IF I WANTED TO SEE A DOOR OR WINDOW, 510 00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:42,000 AND I WOULD FILM HOW FAR DO I HAVE TO RUN. >> YOU'RE BRINGING THE KIDS LIKE YOU'RE BRINGING A TOUR. 511 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,549 AND I WOULD FILM HOW FAR DO I HAVE TO RUN. >> YOU'RE BRINGING THE KIDS LIKE YOU'RE BRINGING A TOUR. 512 00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:48,000 >> GET IT ON FILM, BUT NOT FILMING THEM, NO. I WANT THAT WINDOW. I WANT THAT DOOR. 513 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,890 >> GET IT ON FILM, BUT NOT FILMING THEM, NO. I WANT THAT WINDOW. I WANT THAT DOOR. 514 00:29:51,956 --> 00:29:54,000 >> MUCH LIKE AN ATHLETE, HE PREPARED FOR THE JOB BY SPENDING HOURS WATCHING TAPE. IN HIS CASE, HIS OWN SHAKY 515 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,164 >> MUCH LIKE AN ATHLETE, HE PREPARED FOR THE JOB BY SPENDING HOURS WATCHING TAPE. IN HIS CASE, HIS OWN SHAKY 516 00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:00,000 FOOTAGE OF POTENTIAL TARGETS AND THE CLOSEST EXIT. >> NEEDLESS TO SAY, THEY DO NOT SUSPECT YOU ARE CASING THE 517 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,503 FOOTAGE OF POTENTIAL TARGETS AND THE CLOSEST EXIT. >> NEEDLESS TO SAY, THEY DO NOT SUSPECT YOU ARE CASING THE 518 00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:06,000 JOINT. >> NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. I HAVE A DORKY LOOK TO ME. I KNOW THIS. 519 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,575 JOINT. >> NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. I HAVE A DORKY LOOK TO ME. I KNOW THIS. 520 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,000 I DON'T LOOK LIKE A CRIMINAL AT ALL. >> HE SURE ACTED LIKE ONE. HERE HE IS IN 2012 AFTER 521 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,780 I DON'T LOOK LIKE A CRIMINAL AT ALL. >> HE SURE ACTED LIKE ONE. HERE HE IS IN 2012 AFTER 522 00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:18,000 SMASHING THROUGH A WINDOW AND INTO THE U.S. GOLF MUSEUM IN NEW JERSEY, HE MADE OFF WITH BEN HOGAN'S TROPHIES, MIDDLE OF THE 523 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,000 SMASHING THROUGH A WINDOW AND INTO THE U.S. GOLF MUSEUM IN NEW JERSEY, HE MADE OFF WITH BEN HOGAN'S TROPHIES, MIDDLE OF THE 524 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,657 SMASHING THROUGH A WINDOW AND INTO THE U.S. GOLF MUSEUM IN NEW JERSEY, HE MADE OFF WITH BEN HOGAN'S TROPHIES, MIDDLE OF THE 525 00:30:25,723 --> 00:30:30,000 NIGHT, UNARMED. IT WAS HIS M.O. THOUSANDS OF TIMES. >> CERTAIN FANS REALLY DON'T 526 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,663 NIGHT, UNARMED. IT WAS HIS M.O. THOUSANDS OF TIMES. >> CERTAIN FANS REALLY DON'T 527 00:30:31,729 --> 00:30:36,000 LIKE ME. >> NOW 48, TROTTA GREW UP OUTSIDE SCRANTON. A SPORTS FAN, BASEBALL IN 528 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,903 LIKE ME. >> NOW 48, TROTTA GREW UP OUTSIDE SCRANTON. A SPORTS FAN, BASEBALL IN 529 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:42,000 PARTICULAR. HIS GRANDPARENTS TOOK HIM TO YANKEES GAMES. HE ALSO GREW UP A THIEF. 530 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,740 PARTICULAR. HIS GRANDPARENTS TOOK HIM TO YANKEES GAMES. HE ALSO GREW UP A THIEF. 531 00:30:42,807 --> 00:30:48,000 HE SAYS HE STILL BELIEVED IN SANTA WHEN HE BEGAN STEALING, VALUES, HE SAYS, HE GOT FROM HIS LATE FATHER. 532 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,115 HE SAYS HE STILL BELIEVED IN SANTA WHEN HE BEGAN STEALING, VALUES, HE SAYS, HE GOT FROM HIS LATE FATHER. 533 00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:54,000 >> OUR FIRST SALMON TRIP, MY DAD'S FROM JERSEY. NOT SO MUCH A FISHERMAN. EERYBODY AROUND US IS CATCHING 534 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,990 >> OUR FIRST SALMON TRIP, MY DAD'S FROM JERSEY. NOT SO MUCH A FISHERMAN. EERYBODY AROUND US IS CATCHING 535 00:30:59,057 --> 00:31:00,000 FISH EXCEPT US. SO, WE SNEAK UP TO THE HATCH AT NIGHT. 3:00 IN THE MORNING, HERE WE ARE 536 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,096 FISH EXCEPT US. SO, WE SNEAK UP TO THE HATCH AT NIGHT. 3:00 IN THE MORNING, HERE WE ARE 537 00:31:05,163 --> 00:31:06,000 WITH JUST NETS AND SCOOPING THEM RIGHT OUT. ALL THE SALMON ARE COMING UP. SOLD A BUNCH OF SALMON. 538 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,201 WITH JUST NETS AND SCOOPING THEM RIGHT OUT. ALL THE SALMON ARE COMING UP. SOLD A BUNCH OF SALMON. 539 00:31:10,268 --> 00:31:12,000 >> LATER ON HE RAN WITH A CREW OF NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS WHO, IN TIME, WOULD BECOME HIS ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES. 540 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,808 >> LATER ON HE RAN WITH A CREW OF NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS WHO, IN TIME, WOULD BECOME HIS ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES. 541 00:31:16,874 --> 00:31:18,000 HE SAYS THEY WENT FROM ROBBING PAY PHONES TO BURGLARIZING HOMES. THEFT BECAME HIS FULL-TIME JOBS. 542 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,781 HE SAYS THEY WENT FROM ROBBING PAY PHONES TO BURGLARIZING HOMES. THEFT BECAME HIS FULL-TIME JOBS. 543 00:31:23,848 --> 00:31:24,000 MARRYING HIS TWO PASSIONS, TROTTA PULLED HIS FIRST SPORTS HEIST IN 1999. >> AN EXHIBIT DEVOTED TO HALL OF 544 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:30,000 MARRYING HIS TWO PASSIONS, TROTTA PULLED HIS FIRST SPORTS HEIST IN 1999. >> AN EXHIBIT DEVOTED TO HALL OF 545 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,024 MARRYING HIS TWO PASSIONS, TROTTA PULLED HIS FIRST SPORTS HEIST IN 1999. >> AN EXHIBIT DEVOTED TO HALL OF 546 00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:36,000 FAME PITCHER, CHRISTY MATHEWSON, WINNER OF 373 GAMES, WENT ON DISPLAY AT A NEARBY COLLEGE. IT FEATURED A JERSEY 547 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,000 FAME PITCHER, CHRISTY MATHEWSON, WINNER OF 373 GAMES, WENT ON DISPLAY AT A NEARBY COLLEGE. IT FEATURED A JERSEY 548 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,301 FAME PITCHER, CHRISTY MATHEWSON, WINNER OF 373 GAMES, WENT ON DISPLAY AT A NEARBY COLLEGE. IT FEATURED A JERSEY 549 00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:48,000 COMMEMORATING THE WORLD SERIES. THE WOMAN RUNNING THE DISPLAY ALLOWED VISITORS, INCLUDING TROTTA, TO GET UP CLOSE. 550 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,806 COMMEMORATING THE WORLD SERIES. THE WOMAN RUNNING THE DISPLAY ALLOWED VISITORS, INCLUDING TROTTA, TO GET UP CLOSE. 551 00:31:48,873 --> 00:31:54,000 >> SO, SHE OPENS UP THIS LITTLE GLASS CASE, SLIDES IT, TAKES THE JERSEY OUT, HANDS IT TO ME. I'M HOLDING THE JERSEY. 552 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,414 >> SO, SHE OPENS UP THIS LITTLE GLASS CASE, SLIDES IT, TAKES THE JERSEY OUT, HANDS IT TO ME. I'M HOLDING THE JERSEY. 553 00:31:56,481 --> 00:32:00,000 RIGHT AWAY, MY HEAD'S SPINNING. I'M THINKING WHO I'M GOING TO CALL AND WHO'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS. 554 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,886 RIGHT AWAY, MY HEAD'S SPINNING. I'M THINKING WHO I'M GOING TO CALL AND WHO'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS. 555 00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:06,000 IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE ON DISPLAY A DAY. >> YOU'RE THINKING -- >> THERE'S NO TIME. 556 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,525 IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE ON DISPLAY A DAY. >> YOU'RE THINKING -- >> THERE'S NO TIME. 557 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:12,000 >> WHY DID YOU TAKE THE JERSEY? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, JOHN. TO HAVE IT, TO TRY TO SELL IT ONE DAY. 558 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,831 >> WHY DID YOU TAKE THE JERSEY? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, JOHN. TO HAVE IT, TO TRY TO SELL IT ONE DAY. 559 00:32:13,898 --> 00:32:18,000 OF COURSE IT'S PRICELESS. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR IT? >> FOR HOW MUCH ATTENTION ON IT, 560 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,072 OF COURSE IT'S PRICELESS. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR IT? >> FOR HOW MUCH ATTENTION ON IT, 561 00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:24,000 IT'S A REAL TOUGH SELL. EVEN AT 10% WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN OVER 100,000, JUST FOR SOMEBODY TO LOOK AND MAYBE WEAR. 562 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,179 IT'S A REAL TOUGH SELL. EVEN AT 10% WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN OVER 100,000, JUST FOR SOMEBODY TO LOOK AND MAYBE WEAR. 563 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,000 I DID WEAR IT. I HAD IT ON. >> YOU HAD IT ON? >> YEAH. 564 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,249 I DID WEAR IT. I HAD IT ON. >> YOU HAD IT ON? >> YEAH. 565 00:32:31,316 --> 00:32:36,000 I WANTED TO SEE -- I HEARD HE WAS A BIG GUY, CHRISTY MATHEWSON. THE FACT HE WORE IT -- I'M A BIG 566 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,222 I WANTED TO SEE -- I HEARD HE WAS A BIG GUY, CHRISTY MATHEWSON. THE FACT HE WORE IT -- I'M A BIG 567 00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:42,000 FAN. I'M A FANATICAL BASEBALL FAN. >> AND STRIKES HIM OUT. DON LARSEN HAS PITCHED THE FIRST 568 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,131 FAN. I'M A FANATICAL BASEBALL FAN. >> AND STRIKES HIM OUT. DON LARSEN HAS PITCHED THE FIRST 569 00:32:47,198 --> 00:32:48,000 WORLD SERIES NO HITTER. >> WHAT KIND OF FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD 570 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,000 WORLD SERIES NO HITTER. >> WHAT KIND OF FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD 571 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,605 WORLD SERIES NO HITTER. >> WHAT KIND OF FAN WOULD TARGET YOGI BERRA? THE STAR CATCHER WON A RECORD 572 00:32:54,672 --> 00:33:00,000 TEN WORLD SERIES RINGS. WHEN HE WASN'T POSING, YOGI WORE ONE AND KEPT THE OTHER NINE HERE IN NEW JERSEY. 573 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,182 TEN WORLD SERIES RINGS. WHEN HE WASN'T POSING, YOGI WORE ONE AND KEPT THE OTHER NINE HERE IN NEW JERSEY. 574 00:33:04,248 --> 00:33:06,000 THAT IS UNTIL A RAINY NIGHT IN 2014. TROTTA HAD BEEN PLANNING THE JOB FOR MONTHS. 575 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,954 THAT IS UNTIL A RAINY NIGHT IN 2014. TROTTA HAD BEEN PLANNING THE JOB FOR MONTHS. 576 00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:12,000 >> THE YOGI BERRA CASES WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL. IT WAS A SPECIAL KIND OF BULLET PROOF GLASS THAT WAS NEVER GOING 577 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,394 >> THE YOGI BERRA CASES WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL. IT WAS A SPECIAL KIND OF BULLET PROOF GLASS THAT WAS NEVER GOING 578 00:33:16,461 --> 00:33:18,000 TO SHATTER. THAT'S THE ONE I HAD A GRINDER WITH A RESCUE BLADE, AND I CUT THE CASES OPEN, REACHED AND 579 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,134 TO SHATTER. THAT'S THE ONE I HAD A GRINDER WITH A RESCUE BLADE, AND I CUT THE CASES OPEN, REACHED AND 580 00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:24,000 GRABBED THE RINGS, WENT TO THE OTHER CASE, PURE MID CUT TO GET THE TWO MVP PLAQUES OUT ALSO. >> ALARM BLARING, POLICE WERE 581 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,000 GRABBED THE RINGS, WENT TO THE OTHER CASE, PURE MID CUT TO GET THE TWO MVP PLAQUES OUT ALSO. >> ALARM BLARING, POLICE WERE 582 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,309 GRABBED THE RINGS, WENT TO THE OTHER CASE, PURE MID CUT TO GET THE TWO MVP PLAQUES OUT ALSO. >> ALARM BLARING, POLICE WERE 583 00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:36,000 ALREADY ON THEIR WAY, AS TROTTA RAN ACROSS THIS FIELD TO MEET HIS GET AWAY DRIVER. >> WE WERE A SECOND AWAY FROM 584 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,616 ALREADY ON THEIR WAY, AS TROTTA RAN ACROSS THIS FIELD TO MEET HIS GET AWAY DRIVER. >> WE WERE A SECOND AWAY FROM 585 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:42,000 GETTING CAUGHT. GET BACK TO THE HOUSE, LAID THE RINGS OUT. I WANTED TO TRY THEM ON. 586 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,588 GETTING CAUGHT. GET BACK TO THE HOUSE, LAID THE RINGS OUT. I WANTED TO TRY THEM ON. 587 00:33:43,654 --> 00:33:48,000 >> DID YOU? >> I TRIED THEM ALL ON. I JUST PUT THEM ON JUST TO SEE. THEN THE NEXT THING WE DID, WE 588 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,228 >> DID YOU? >> I TRIED THEM ALL ON. I JUST PUT THEM ON JUST TO SEE. THEN THE NEXT THING WE DID, WE 589 00:33:50,294 --> 00:33:54,000 START TO DISMANTLE THEM. >> WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE RINGS? >> CUT THEM, MELTED THEM. 590 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,833 START TO DISMANTLE THEM. >> WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE RINGS? >> CUT THEM, MELTED THEM. 591 00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:00,000 >> YOU HEARD RIGHT. TROTTA AND CREW RETREATED TO THIS RURAL PENNSYLVANIA GARAGE TO MELT DOWN YOGI BERRA'S RINGS. 592 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,041 >> YOU HEARD RIGHT. TROTTA AND CREW RETREATED TO THIS RURAL PENNSYLVANIA GARAGE TO MELT DOWN YOGI BERRA'S RINGS. 593 00:34:04,108 --> 00:34:06,000 HE SAYS THEY MELTED DOWN MUCH OF THEIR LOOT, THE STUFF THAT WAS TOO HOT TO SELL, AND BROUGHT THE GOLD AND GEMSTONES TO 594 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,716 HE SAYS THEY MELTED DOWN MUCH OF THEIR LOOT, THE STUFF THAT WAS TOO HOT TO SELL, AND BROUGHT THE GOLD AND GEMSTONES TO 595 00:34:11,783 --> 00:34:12,000 MANHATTAN'S DIAMOND DISTRICT, WHERE A DEALER PAID THE GANG IN CASH, NO QUESTIONED ASKED. FOR ALL THAT PRICELESS YOGI 596 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,000 MANHATTAN'S DIAMOND DISTRICT, WHERE A DEALER PAID THE GANG IN CASH, NO QUESTIONED ASKED. FOR ALL THAT PRICELESS YOGI 597 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,990 MANHATTAN'S DIAMOND DISTRICT, WHERE A DEALER PAID THE GANG IN CASH, NO QUESTIONED ASKED. FOR ALL THAT PRICELESS YOGI 598 00:34:19,056 --> 00:34:24,000 BERRA MEMORABILIA, TROTTA SAYS THEY GOT $12,000. >> THIS IS THE MUSEUM. THIS IS GRANDPA YOGI. 599 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,397 BERRA MEMORABILIA, TROTTA SAYS THEY GOT $12,000. >> THIS IS THE MUSEUM. THIS IS GRANDPA YOGI. 600 00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:30,000 >> LINDSAY BERRA HAS DEVOTED LIFE TO PRESERVED THE LEGACY OF HER BELOVED GRANDFATHER. THE CASE WENT COLD FOR YEARS. 601 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,000 >> LINDSAY BERRA HAS DEVOTED LIFE TO PRESERVED THE LEGACY OF HER BELOVED GRANDFATHER. THE CASE WENT COLD FOR YEARS. 602 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,107 >> LINDSAY BERRA HAS DEVOTED LIFE TO PRESERVED THE LEGACY OF HER BELOVED GRANDFATHER. THE CASE WENT COLD FOR YEARS. 603 00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:42,000 MEANWHILE, THE YANKEES REPLACED THE STOLEN RINGS. EVENTUALLY SHE CAME TO LEARN WHAT HAD BECOME OF THE 604 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,246 MEANWHILE, THE YANKEES REPLACED THE STOLEN RINGS. EVENTUALLY SHE CAME TO LEARN WHAT HAD BECOME OF THE 605 00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:48,000 ORIGINALS. >> I JUST BURST INTO TEARS. IT WAS SO INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO ME THAT THAT WAS THE UPSHOT OF THIS 606 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,719 ORIGINALS. >> I JUST BURST INTO TEARS. IT WAS SO INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO ME THAT THAT WAS THE UPSHOT OF THIS 607 00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:54,000 WHOLE THING. >> THAT THESE THINGS NO LONGER EXIST. >> THAT THEY'VE BEEN DESTROYED. 608 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,358 WHOLE THING. >> THAT THESE THINGS NO LONGER EXIST. >> THAT THEY'VE BEEN DESTROYED. 609 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:58,796 IT MADE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME. IT STILL MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME, AND I DON'T THINK 610 00:34:58,863 --> 00:35:00,000 IT WILL EVER MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. >> YOU VALUED THE OBJECTS AT MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS, AND 611 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,102 IT WILL EVER MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. >> YOU VALUED THE OBJECTS AT MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS, AND 612 00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:06,000 YOU FIND OUT THESE HAVE BEEN MELTED DOWN FOR ABOUT $12,000. >> YEAH. IT'S BAFFLING. 613 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,274 YOU FIND OUT THESE HAVE BEEN MELTED DOWN FOR ABOUT $12,000. >> YEAH. IT'S BAFFLING. 614 00:35:10,341 --> 00:35:12,000 AND YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS TROUBLE TO PLAN FOR MONTHS AND THEN YOU SELL THE STUFF THAT YOU STEAL FOR PENNIES COMPARED TO 615 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 AND YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS TROUBLE TO PLAN FOR MONTHS AND THEN YOU SELL THE STUFF THAT YOU STEAL FOR PENNIES COMPARED TO 616 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,884 AND YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS TROUBLE TO PLAN FOR MONTHS AND THEN YOU SELL THE STUFF THAT YOU STEAL FOR PENNIES COMPARED TO 617 00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:24,000 WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY WORTH? AND NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DESTROYING HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS WITH SIGNIFICANCE SO 618 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,793 WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY WORTH? AND NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DESTROYING HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS WITH SIGNIFICANCE SO 619 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,000 MUCH BEYOND THE GOLD AND DIAMONDS THAT THEY'RE MADE OF. AND IT'S CALLOUS AND DISRESPECTFUL AND DUMB. 620 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,000 MUCH BEYOND THE GOLD AND DIAMONDS THAT THEY'RE MADE OF. AND IT'S CALLOUS AND DISRESPECTFUL AND DUMB. 621 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,636 MUCH BEYOND THE GOLD AND DIAMONDS THAT THEY'RE MADE OF. AND IT'S CALLOUS AND DISRESPECTFUL AND DUMB. 622 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:42,000 >> HARD TO ARGUE. DEMAND DRIES UP FAST WHEN THE OBJECTS ARE SO OBVIOUSLY STOLEN. >> WHAT'S THE BUSINESS MODEL 623 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,000 >> HARD TO ARGUE. DEMAND DRIES UP FAST WHEN THE OBJECTS ARE SO OBVIOUSLY STOLEN. >> WHAT'S THE BUSINESS MODEL 624 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,713 >> HARD TO ARGUE. DEMAND DRIES UP FAST WHEN THE OBJECTS ARE SO OBVIOUSLY STOLEN. >> WHAT'S THE BUSINESS MODEL 625 00:35:48,779 --> 00:35:54,000 HERE? >> A QUICK 12,000. AS BAD AS THAT SOUNDS, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT LIKE RINGS. 626 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,051 HERE? >> A QUICK 12,000. AS BAD AS THAT SOUNDS, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT LIKE RINGS. 627 00:35:54,118 --> 00:35:57,822 IT WAS MONEY. IT WAS CASH. >> SO, YOU SAY YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY. 628 00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:00,000 BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IN SOME OF THESE CASES IT WASN'T ABOUT THE MONEY. >> HISTORY A LOT OF TIMES. 629 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,529 BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IN SOME OF THESE CASES IT WASN'T ABOUT THE MONEY. >> HISTORY A LOT OF TIMES. 630 00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:06,000 >> I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE. YOU CLEARLY APPRECIATE THE HISTORY. BUT THEN -- 631 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,799 >> I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE. YOU CLEARLY APPRECIATE THE HISTORY. BUT THEN -- 632 00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:12,000 >> I MELT THE STUFF DOWN. YEAH. THAT WAS THE LIFESTYLE. THIS WARPED WAY OF THINKING, IT 633 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,974 >> I MELT THE STUFF DOWN. YEAH. THAT WAS THE LIFESTYLE. THIS WARPED WAY OF THINKING, IT 634 00:36:17,041 --> 00:36:18,000 WAS JUST NORMAL FOR US. >> THESE ARE YOGI BERRA'S WORLD SERIES RINGS. >> BELIEV ME, THAT JOB -- OF 635 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,000 WAS JUST NORMAL FOR US. >> THESE ARE YOGI BERRA'S WORLD SERIES RINGS. >> BELIEV ME, THAT JOB -- OF 636 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,117 WAS JUST NORMAL FOR US. >> THESE ARE YOGI BERRA'S WORLD SERIES RINGS. >> BELIEV ME, THAT JOB -- OF 637 00:36:26,183 --> 00:36:30,000 ALL THE JOBS, HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE ITEMS, BUT THAT ONE BOTHERED ME OUT OF MOST OF THEM. 638 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,089 ALL THE JOBS, HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE ITEMS, BUT THAT ONE BOTHERED ME OUT OF MOST OF THEM. 639 00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:36,000 >> THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING. IN 2016, HE DROVE TO THE ROGER MARIS MUSEUM IN NORTH DAKOTA AND STOLE THE YANKEE SLUGGERS MVP 640 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,000 >> THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING. IN 2016, HE DROVE TO THE ROGER MARIS MUSEUM IN NORTH DAKOTA AND STOLE THE YANKEE SLUGGERS MVP 641 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,101 >> THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING. IN 2016, HE DROVE TO THE ROGER MARIS MUSEUM IN NORTH DAKOTA AND STOLE THE YANKEE SLUGGERS MVP 642 00:36:44,168 --> 00:36:48,000 PLAQUE. HE NEVER DID HIT COOPERS TOWN, BUT AT THE BOXING HALL OF FAME, HE LIFTED THE BELTS OF CARMEN 643 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,000 PLAQUE. HE NEVER DID HIT COOPERS TOWN, BUT AT THE BOXING HALL OF FAME, HE LIFTED THE BELTS OF CARMEN 644 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,679 PLAQUE. HE NEVER DID HIT COOPERS TOWN, BUT AT THE BOXING HALL OF FAME, HE LIFTED THE BELTS OF CARMEN 645 00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:59,984 BASILIO. AS IT TURNED OUT, TROTTA'S BIGGEST JOB DIDN'T INVOLVE SPORTS AT ALL. 646 00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:06,000 IT WAS SET IN HIS BACKYARD AND CAME WITH UNLIKELY ENTREE INTO THE ART WORLD. >> IT REALLY IS A FORTRESS, BUT 647 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,958 IT WAS SET IN HIS BACKYARD AND CAME WITH UNLIKELY ENTREE INTO THE ART WORLD. >> IT REALLY IS A FORTRESS, BUT 648 00:37:07,024 --> 00:37:12,000 THEY HAD █KIND OF AN ACHILLES HEEL IN THE BACK OF THE MUSEUM. >> SCRANTON EVERHART MUSEUM. IT HAD TWO MAIN ATTRACTIONS, 649 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,000 THEY HAD █KIND OF AN ACHILLES HEEL IN THE BACK OF THE MUSEUM. >> SCRANTON EVERHART MUSEUM. IT HAD TWO MAIN ATTRACTIONS, 650 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,674 THEY HAD █KIND OF AN ACHILLES HEEL IN THE BACK OF THE MUSEUM. >> SCRANTON EVERHART MUSEUM. IT HAD TWO MAIN ATTRACTIONS, 651 00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:24,000 ANDY WARHOL'S "LA GRANDE PASSION" AND "SPRINGS WINTER" BY JACKSON POLLOCK. >> PITCH BLACK. 652 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,713 ANDY WARHOL'S "LA GRANDE PASSION" AND "SPRINGS WINTER" BY JACKSON POLLOCK. >> PITCH BLACK. 653 00:37:28,779 --> 00:37:30,000 >> YOU KNOW THIS PLACE. >> KNOW THE PLACE SO GOOD AND OPEN THE DOOR. TO THE RIGHT WAS THE POLLOCK AND 654 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,553 >> YOU KNOW THIS PLACE. >> KNOW THE PLACE SO GOOD AND OPEN THE DOOR. TO THE RIGHT WAS THE POLLOCK AND 655 00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:36,000 THE WARHOL. BASICALLY BLIND FOLDED I'M DOING THIS. TAKE THEM OFF THE WALL, RUN DOWN 656 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,925 THE WARHOL. BASICALLY BLIND FOLDED I'M DOING THIS. TAKE THEM OFF THE WALL, RUN DOWN 657 00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:42,000 THE STAIRS, TOSS THEM IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, TELL THOSE GUYS TO GO, AND WE WERE OFF TO GO. 658 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,431 THE STAIRS, TOSS THEM IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, TELL THOSE GUYS TO GO, AND WE WERE OFF TO GO. 659 00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:48,000 >> HOW DID YOU KNOW WHAT TO TAKE? >> WARHOL IS A BIG NAME. POLLOCK IS ESPECIALLY BIG. 660 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,203 >> HOW DID YOU KNOW WHAT TO TAKE? >> WARHOL IS A BIG NAME. POLLOCK IS ESPECIALLY BIG. 661 00:37:52,269 --> 00:37:54,000 I'VE SEEN THE POLLOCK MOVIE. >> DID YOU REALIZE THE PAINTING'S VALUE WHEN YOU TOOK IT? 662 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,540 I'VE SEEN THE POLLOCK MOVIE. >> DID YOU REALIZE THE PAINTING'S VALUE WHEN YOU TOOK IT? 663 00:37:56,607 --> 00:38:00,000 >> NO. I THOUGHT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. >> TRY MILLIONS. BUT IT WAS THE SAME OLD STORY 664 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,278 >> NO. I THOUGHT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS. >> TRY MILLIONS. BUT IT WAS THE SAME OLD STORY 665 00:38:01,345 --> 00:38:06,000 FOR THIS BUNCH. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A BUYER LINED UP, AND IT'S HARD TO MOVE PRIZED ARTWORK AFTER A PUBLICIZED 666 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,618 FOR THIS BUNCH. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A BUYER LINED UP, AND IT'S HARD TO MOVE PRIZED ARTWORK AFTER A PUBLICIZED 667 00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:12,000 THEFT. SO, TROTTA SAYS HE AND HIS CREW HID THE ART ALONG WITH THE CHRISTY MATHEWSON JERSEY, ITEMS 668 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,059 THEFT. SO, TROTTA SAYS HE AND HIS CREW HID THE ART ALONG WITH THE CHRISTY MATHEWSON JERSEY, ITEMS 669 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,000 THEY COULDN'T MELT, AT A HOME BELONGING TO TWO OF THE ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU 670 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,798 THEY COULDN'T MELT, AT A HOME BELONGING TO TWO OF THE ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES. >> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU 671 00:38:20,865 --> 00:38:24,000 SAW THE JACKSON POLLOCK? >> LAST TIME I SEEN THE POLLOCK, 2017, 2018. IT WAS AT A HOUSE IN UNION, NEW 672 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,805 SAW THE JACKSON POLLOCK? >> LAST TIME I SEEN THE POLLOCK, 2017, 2018. IT WAS AT A HOUSE IN UNION, NEW 673 00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:30,000 JERSEY. >> SO, OFF WE WENT TO THAT HOUSE IN UNION, NEW JERSEY. NO ANSWER AT THE DOOR, NO SIGN 674 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,743 JERSEY. >> SO, OFF WE WENT TO THAT HOUSE IN UNION, NEW JERSEY. NO ANSWER AT THE DOOR, NO SIGN 675 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:36,000 OF THE STOLEN ART. STILL, WHEN THE RINGLEADER GIVES RE-ELECTIONS TO WHAT HE CLAIMS WAS A STASH HOUSE, YOU KNOW THE 676 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,185 OF THE STOLEN ART. STILL, WHEN THE RINGLEADER GIVES RE-ELECTIONS TO WHAT HE CLAIMS WAS A STASH HOUSE, YOU KNOW THE 677 00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:42,000 PLOT IS UNRAVELING FOR THE GREAT AMERICAN SPORTS MUSEUM THIEVES. HOW THEY GET CAUGHT? YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES. 678 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,000 PLOT IS UNRAVELING FOR THE GREAT AMERICAN SPORTS MUSEUM THIEVES. HOW THEY GET CAUGHT? YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES. 679 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,226 PLOT IS UNRAVELING FOR THE GREAT AMERICAN SPORTS MUSEUM THIEVES. HOW THEY GET CAUGHT? YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES. 680 00:38:49,293 --> 00:38:54,000 THEY GOT SLOPPY. HERE'S 2016 SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OF TROTTA USING A SNOWPLOW TO RIP AN ATM FROM A LOCAL GROCERY 681 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,534 THEY GOT SLOPPY. HERE'S 2016 SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OF TROTTA USING A SNOWPLOW TO RIP AN ATM FROM A LOCAL GROCERY 682 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,000 STORE. WHEN TROTTA WAS PULLED OVER FOR DRIVING ERRATICALLY TWO YEARS LATER, POLICE FOUND HIS TRUNK 683 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,541 STORE. WHEN TROTTA WAS PULLED OVER FOR DRIVING ERRATICALLY TWO YEARS LATER, POLICE FOUND HIS TRUNK 684 00:39:03,607 --> 00:39:06,000 FILLED WITH CRIME GEAR, INCLUDING GLOVES MATCHED TO THAT ATM JOB. >> 30 YEARS OF SECRECY, OF 685 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,313 FILLED WITH CRIME GEAR, INCLUDING GLOVES MATCHED TO THAT ATM JOB. >> 30 YEARS OF SECRECY, OF 686 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,000 STEALTH, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN -- >> IT'S ALL DOWN. >> WHAT'S THAT LIKE FOR YOU? >> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER, 687 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,052 STEALTH, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN -- >> IT'S ALL DOWN. >> WHAT'S THAT LIKE FOR YOU? >> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER, 688 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,000 YOU KNOW? >> YES, HE STEALS YOGI BERRA'S RINGS AND MANGLES YOGI BERRA'S QUOTES. 689 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,226 YOU KNOW? >> YES, HE STEALS YOGI BERRA'S RINGS AND MANGLES YOGI BERRA'S QUOTES. 690 00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:24,000 TROTTA WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. POLICE BEGAN MATCHING HIM TO A STRING OF HOME BURGLARIES. INSIDE A COUNTY JAIL, HE MADE A 691 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000 TROTTA WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. POLICE BEGAN MATCHING HIM TO A STRING OF HOME BURGLARIES. INSIDE A COUNTY JAIL, HE MADE A 692 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,901 TROTTA WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. POLICE BEGAN MATCHING HIM TO A STRING OF HOME BURGLARIES. INSIDE A COUNTY JAIL, HE MADE A 693 00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:36,000 DEAL. IN EXCHANGE FOR REDUCING A SENTENCE THAT COULD HAVE SPANNED DECADES, TROTTA WOULD LAY OUT 694 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,441 DEAL. IN EXCHANGE FOR REDUCING A SENTENCE THAT COULD HAVE SPANNED DECADES, TROTTA WOULD LAY OUT 695 00:39:37,508 --> 00:39:42,000 FOR INVESTIGATORS ALL THOSE UNSOLVED MUSEUM HEISTS. HE ALSO GAVE UP HIS LONG TIME CREW, LOOKOUTS, GET AWAY 696 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,715 FOR INVESTIGATORS ALL THOSE UNSOLVED MUSEUM HEISTS. HE ALSO GAVE UP HIS LONG TIME CREW, LOOKOUTS, GET AWAY 697 00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:48,000 DRIVERS, AND GOLD MELTERS. THE RINGLEADER TURNED CHIEF GOVERNMENT WITNESS. LAST SUMMER FEDERAL AND STATE 698 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,354 DRIVERS, AND GOLD MELTERS. THE RINGLEADER TURNED CHIEF GOVERNMENT WITNESS. LAST SUMMER FEDERAL AND STATE 699 00:39:50,421 --> 00:39:54,000 AUTHORITIES ANNOUNCED A SWEEPING INDICTMENT. >> 21 SEPARATE BURGLARIES SPANNING MORE THAN 20 YEARS 700 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,093 AUTHORITIES ANNOUNCED A SWEEPING INDICTMENT. >> 21 SEPARATE BURGLARIES SPANNING MORE THAN 20 YEARS 701 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,000 ACROSS FOUR STATES. >> EIGHT OF TROTTAS ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES WERE CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACIES TO COMMIT THEFT OF 702 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,301 ACROSS FOUR STATES. >> EIGHT OF TROTTAS ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES WERE CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACIES TO COMMIT THEFT OF 703 00:40:04,368 --> 00:40:06,000 MAJOR ARTWORK. FOUR PLEADED GUILTY. THE OTHER FOUR PLEADED NOT GUILTY. 704 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,306 MAJOR ARTWORK. FOUR PLEADED GUILTY. THE OTHER FOUR PLEADED NOT GUILTY. 705 00:40:09,373 --> 00:40:12,000 THE INDICTMENT DETAILS, SADLY, THE MELTING OF YOGI BERRA'S RINGS. IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO 706 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,512 THE INDICTMENT DETAILS, SADLY, THE MELTING OF YOGI BERRA'S RINGS. IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO 707 00:40:14,578 --> 00:40:18,000 THE MISSING LOOT LIKE THE MATHSON JERSEY, THE WARHOL, THE POLLOCK. WE PUT THE QUESTION TO TROTTA, 708 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,220 THE MISSING LOOT LIKE THE MATHSON JERSEY, THE WARHOL, THE POLLOCK. WE PUT THE QUESTION TO TROTTA, 709 00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,000 AND IN AS MUCH AS A CAREER THIEF CAN BE BELIEVED -- >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE IT IS? 710 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,692 AND IN AS MUCH AS A CAREER THIEF CAN BE BELIEVED -- >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE IT IS? 711 00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:30,000 >> NO. RIGHT NOW, NO. I DON'T THINK IT'S DESTROYED. NOBODY WOULD BE THAT STUPID. 712 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,530 >> NO. RIGHT NOW, NO. I DON'T THINK IT'S DESTROYED. NOBODY WOULD BE THAT STUPID. 713 00:40:32,596 --> 00:40:36,000 IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO POP UP ONE DAY. >> TOMMY TROTTA FINISHED SERVING HIS STATE SENTENCE OF MORE THAN 714 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,703 IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO POP UP ONE DAY. >> TOMMY TROTTA FINISHED SERVING HIS STATE SENTENCE OF MORE THAN 715 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:42,000 FOUR YEARS LAST JUNE. HE'S STILL WORKING NIGHTS, BUT NOW AT A WAREHOUSE. HE'S AWAITING SENTENCING ON A 716 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,210 FOUR YEARS LAST JUNE. HE'S STILL WORKING NIGHTS, BUT NOW AT A WAREHOUSE. HE'S AWAITING SENTENCING ON A 717 00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:48,000 FEDERAL CHARGE OF THEFT OF MAJOR ARTWORK. >> HOW WE JUSTIFIED IT IS, HEY, NOBODY'S GETTING HURT. 718 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,651 FEDERAL CHARGE OF THEFT OF MAJOR ARTWORK. >> HOW WE JUSTIFIED IT IS, HEY, NOBODY'S GETTING HURT. 719 00:40:53,717 --> 00:40:54,000 I NEVER LOOKED AT IT LIKE SITTING IN JAIL 51 MONTHS, EMOTIONALLY, I DESTROY PEOPLE. I KNOW THIS NOW. 720 00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,000 I NEVER LOOKED AT IT LIKE SITTING IN JAIL 51 MONTHS, EMOTIONALLY, I DESTROY PEOPLE. I KNOW THIS NOW. 721 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,291 I NEVER LOOKED AT IT LIKE SITTING IN JAIL 51 MONTHS, EMOTIONALLY, I DESTROY PEOPLE. I KNOW THIS NOW. 722 00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:06,000 >> FAIR SENTENCE? >> I DO REGRET HURTING EVERYBODY I STOLE ANYTHING FROM. THE YOGI BERRA FAMILY, WHAT 723 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,031 >> FAIR SENTENCE? >> I DO REGRET HURTING EVERYBODY I STOLE ANYTHING FROM. THE YOGI BERRA FAMILY, WHAT 724 00:41:07,097 --> 00:41:12,000 THE -- EVERYTHING HE ACCOMPLISHED IN LIFE, HE DIDN'T NEED SOMEONE LIKE ME TO DO WHAT I DID. 725 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,903 THE -- EVERYTHING HE ACCOMPLISHED IN LIFE, HE DIDN'T NEED SOMEONE LIKE ME TO DO WHAT I DID. 726 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:17,408 BUT IT CAN'T TAKE AWAY WHAT HE DID. HE'S THE HERO. I'M NOT. 727 00:41:17,474 --> 00:41:18,000 I'M NOT. >> DO YOU THINK YOGI WOULD FORGIVE HIM? >> I MEAN, I KIND OF DO. 728 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,013 I'M NOT. >> DO YOU THINK YOGI WOULD FORGIVE HIM? >> I MEAN, I KIND OF DO. 729 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,000 GRANDPA WAS SUCH THAT IF YOU OWNED UP TO YOUR MISTAKES AND YOU SHOWED REMORSE, HE WOULD CERTAINLY FORGIVE YOU. 730 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,000 GRANDPA WAS SUCH THAT IF YOU OWNED UP TO YOUR MISTAKES AND YOU SHOWED REMORSE, HE WOULD CERTAINLY FORGIVE YOU. 731 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,387 GRANDPA WAS SUCH THAT IF YOU OWNED UP TO YOUR MISTAKES AND YOU SHOWED REMORSE, HE WOULD CERTAINLY FORGIVE YOU. 732 00:41:30,454 --> 00:41:36,000 AND I SUPPOSE I COULD DO THAT. BUT I -- I'M STILL MAD THAT THE STUFF IS GONE. 733 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,460 AND I SUPPOSE I COULD DO THAT. BUT I -- I'M STILL MAD THAT THE STUFF IS GONE. 734 00:41:39,196 --> 00:41:42,000 >>> A LESSON IN FORGIVENESS, FROM THE YOGI STEIN BRIANER FEUD. >> IT TOOK 40 735 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,000 >>> A LESSON IN FORGIVENESS, FROM THE YOGI STEIN BRIANER FEUD. >> IT TOOK 40 736 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,175 >>> A LESSON IN FORGIVENESS, FROM THE YOGI STEIN BRIANER FEUD. >> IT TOOK 40 737 00:41:54,345 --> 00:42:00,000 >>> NOW, "THE LAST MINUTE" OF "60 MINUTES." >> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE OF ISRAEL'S ATTACK KILLING SEVEN 738 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,655 >>> NOW, "THE LAST MINUTE" OF "60 MINUTES." >> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE OF ISRAEL'S ATTACK KILLING SEVEN 739 00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:06,000 AID WORKERS IN GAZA THIS PAST MONDAY DIDN'T FADE DURING THE WEEK. THE ANTIHUNGER AGENCY WORLD 740 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,728 AID WORKERS IN GAZA THIS PAST MONDAY DIDN'T FADE DURING THE WEEK. THE ANTIHUNGER AGENCY WORLD 741 00:42:10,794 --> 00:42:12,000 CENTRAL KITCHEN IS FAMILIAR TO "60 MINUTES" VIEWERS. WE HAVE SEEN CHEF JOSE ANDRES AND HIS COLLEAGUES FEEDING THE 742 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,000 CENTRAL KITCHEN IS FAMILIAR TO "60 MINUTES" VIEWERS. WE HAVE SEEN CHEF JOSE ANDRES AND HIS COLLEAGUES FEEDING THE 743 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,904 CENTRAL KITCHEN IS FAMILIAR TO "60 MINUTES" VIEWERS. WE HAVE SEEN CHEF JOSE ANDRES AND HIS COLLEAGUES FEEDING THE 744 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:24,000 HUNGRY IN WAR AND NATURAL DISASTERS ACROSS THE WORLD, IN PUERTO RICO, HAITI, IN UKRAINE, AND HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 745 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,677 HUNGRY IN WAR AND NATURAL DISASTERS ACROSS THE WORLD, IN PUERTO RICO, HAITI, IN UKRAINE, AND HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 746 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:30,000 MONDAY'S ATTACK WAS NO CASE OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THE THREE MARKED RELIEF VEHICLES WERE TARGETED WITH PRECISE 747 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,217 MONDAY'S ATTACK WAS NO CASE OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THE THREE MARKED RELIEF VEHICLES WERE TARGETED WITH PRECISE 748 00:42:33,284 --> 00:42:36,000 AERIAL WEAPONS. THE WORKERS COORDINATED THEIR MOVEMENTS WITH THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES. 749 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,056 AERIAL WEAPONS. THE WORKERS COORDINATED THEIR MOVEMENTS WITH THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES. 750 00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:42,000 BY THE WEEKEND, SUCK COMING TO PRESSURE, INCLUDING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, ISRAEL DISMISSED TWO OFFICERS AND DISCIPLINED 751 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,000 BY THE WEEKEND, SUCK COMING TO PRESSURE, INCLUDING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, ISRAEL DISMISSED TWO OFFICERS AND DISCIPLINED 752 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,766 BY THE WEEKEND, SUCK COMING TO PRESSURE, INCLUDING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, ISRAEL DISMISSED TWO OFFICERS AND DISCIPLINED 753 00:42:48,832 --> 00:42:54,000 THREE OTHERS FOR VIOLATING ITS RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND, QUOTE, ERRORS IN 754 00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,000 THREE OTHERS FOR VIOLATING ITS RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND, QUOTE, ERRORS IN 755 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,744 THREE OTHERS FOR VIOLATING ITS RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND, QUOTE, ERRORS IN